Misty Croslin Cummings sudden vacation caused a great deal of rumblings online. There were two wonderful although completely bogus rumors.
My favorite was that Misty Cummings was under protective custody. I will not name names, but here is the quote from someone close to the investigation:
Are you kidding! She would be the last person we would make that offer to!
The other silly rumor was that Misty had turned herself into some sort of religious facility and was spilling the beans. This story has subsequently and mysteriously disappeared from the site involved. Ahh the joys of the internet! There is no need to verify your information, just publish. This particular site is a no name blog, so I guess there was no harm done.
So what is the real story? My sources, and they are very reliable, tell me that Misty did indeed spend a day at Universal Studios, but that was not the prime motivation. Ronald and Misty did not have a huge fight, again nonsense created online, rather it was a planned trip.
You may not like Ronald Cummings or Misty Croslin Cummings, and I certainly do not, but, think about if for a moment. These two people have been in the media spotlight for months. Their stress level must be pretty high.
Misty left somewhat quietly just to get away for a few days, time away from the constant pressure, she did by the way return last night. What you may not be aware of is that last Friday Ronald Cummings also went to Orlando. Misty, Ron, and Junior had a great day at a local park. Junior could be a little boy again, rather than a lab experiment under the press microscope.
I think one of the things that many people miss is the fact that there are innocent victims in this case. Sure, we would all like to throw the whole family behind bars, they seem to have very few redeeming features. But what about Junior? Doesn’t he deserve some respect? Of course it would be valid to argue that Junior is going to grow up to be just as dysfunctional as the rest of the clan but only time will tell.
I do not have a great deal of time for the Cummings, Croslin’s or Shefield’s, they all have their unique challenges. What I do care about is the safe return of Haleigh Cummings. Someone, somewhere holds the missing jigsaw piece, and I do wish they would come forward. If Haleigh Cummings is still alive she needs to be found, if she is no longer with us, the culprits need to be brought to justice.
Simon Barrett
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Follow-up comment rss or Leave a TrackbackRonald and Misty did not have a huge fight, again nonsense created online, rather it was a planned trip
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That would be your buddy Art Harris, he spread the fighting rumor far and wide, to include on Nancy Grace and YOUR SHOW. Over and over and over and over again.
Art doesn’t like to be wrong, even when he is, he refuses to admit it. Let’s just say his popularity on the net has plummeted to unreachable depths.
Steph Watts worked at ABC and Fox News. His blog does have a name but he never gets it right.
There is a lot that could be addressed about you Simon, but one thing you are NOT, is consistent. You flip flop more than pancakes at the IHOP.
“again nonsense created online”
This bugs me because this is just not true. Everyone with the exception of ART HARRIS saw the GoodBye Video with Ron and Misty swapping tonsils. Give credit where credit is DUE SIMON! That WOULD BE ART HARRIS for spreading the lies. Or you can just keep trashing on line bloggers, who are your audience.
http://www.wesh.com/video/21043768/index.html
I guess everyone can unbunch their panties now.
It’s kind of hilarious watching everyone play “where’s Misty?” She’s at Disney, no Universal, no Tampa, no Cocoa Beach,no rehab, no in church confessing her sins, no she’s in mental hospital.
Then we have Art and his entirely clueless reporting on HLN during this time.
Then there’s Steph. Hey Steph, ask TJ about double checking his sources,he learned his lesson about a certain blogger on the net. Do ya’ll have the same “source”.
Good thing I’m not in a really ranting mood right now because this would be a novella.
Thank you, Simon.
Junior does deserve to be a child. His world has been turned upside down over the past nearly 8 months. His sister has disappeared. His entire family is focused on HaLeigh (of course), and Junior needs love and attention, too!
Ron is not only HaLeigh’s father, but Junior’s too. He needs to not only face the fact that HaLeigh is not there, but he has to be an active parent in Junior’s life. I hope that Junior enjoyed a fun day at the park. I hope for at least ONE DAY that ALL THE ATTENTION in the world was focused solely on that little boy and he had fun.
It was clear as day to most people that didn’t listen to certain people that Ron and Misty weren’t fighting. There was a video of them saying good bye. They were certainly not angry at each other. I hope whatever they did out of town was productive.
And I hope people can get back to focusing on HALEIGH ANN-MARIE CUMMINGS now. It’s almost 8 months she’s been gone. And that is 8 months too long.
Thats it! I am done! I have wasted too many hours on the net reading lies lies and more lies about this case. Does anyone have the FACTS? Haleigh is missing! I only hope and pray that this little girl is found soon. She deserves justice.
Ron and Misty are VICTIMS? Are you smoking crack?
Funny that you of all people berate and put down other sites when all along your ‘sources’ have been TJ and Art Harris! LOL! Now, that is the biggest joke of all.
Those 2 wouldn’t know a story or real facts if they were hit in the face with them.
Haleigh Cummings is the only victim here.
I wonder who in PCSO was losing sleep this last week worring if Misty was going to slink of to parts unknown.. Were they aware of her comings and goings.. As usual, we are back to show boating.. The mystic travels of Misty.. But, of course it certainly does take all attention off of Where is Haleigh? Is PCSO back to digging up Putnam on their square inch at a time.. Maybe they will have another tip on where she is buried, because for goodness sakes, She just can’t be alive somewhere.. In a few years, Haleigh will be able to read and write, she will end up watching a news cast, and wonder, why didn’t they look for me? I am Dead? Somebody should have told me? I thought I was alive?
While I agree that Ron jr deserves to be a kid again, it needs to be with his mother. Right now he is living in a pressure cooker waiting to blow and a 4yr old child doesn’t deserve that. If Ron were any kind of man (I know, I’m laughing myself at that idea), he would relinquish custody at least until theis mystery is over and really IMO he should forever.
I am glad Jr had a day to be with his dad, and live like a child. Like he should be able to do. Hope he enjoyed himself.
Best news this week.
Steph has had better access than Art Harris. He actually was with Tim Miller during the 12-day tour of duty with Ronald and Misty Cummings. He can admit a mistake. Art just keeps adding to his.
Simon you also chastised those who said the pond was being drained. Don’t think you have the best sources either. MOO
The fight was indeed reported by Art Harris, but also several other news orgs. I smelled a rat on the story, so opted not to run with it.
The news biz is a strange one, sometimes you have to run on hunches.In this case both HLN and their source were wrong.
Quite frankly I was amazed that NG ran with it. She rarely makes mistakes, which is why her news is often days old!
mlee, oh my. Just what are you smoking in Pinehurst to come up with that? LMAO
I Know the break was needed.Ron jr,yes he has been forgotten in all of this.I will say.I still think it was an abduction.Sorry guys. To many SO,in that area,to suit me,in the whole state of Fla. seems Fla.,an Cal. are states that are overflowing with them!!!
I really think you, Art Harris and TJ Hart are all out for your litle 5 minutes of fame. You are all FOS. Ron should do something productive…. like get off his sorry azz and get a job. He sure doesn’t care about his missing daughter. What you and the rest report on has already been out in the papers or on the news. Just shut up already.
While I had seen it being reported that Ron and Misty were fighting and Misty was on the run, on other news orgs. those news orgs were those that got their info from AH.
AH started that sensationalizing nonsense just as he has done many times in the past, and of course the posters that believe his every word believed it, embellished it and ran with it.
It was very clear from the video shot the day Misty left town that Ron and Misty were not fighting. It was very obvious from the video of local media interviewing Annette Sykes, who stated Ron and Misty were out of town together, that what was being reported by AH was inaccurate and misleading, in my opinion of course.
well i think there is an awful lot of game playing going on. they are manipulating the hell out of people and using the press to their advantage when they can. but, at least this time it was for the good, maybe for themselves, but definitely for junior’s sake. i too hope that little boy had a normal and a fun time being a little boy.
Of course Jr. deserves respect! IMO, to properly respect him, would have been to remove him as far away from his family as possible. Give him the opportunity to grow up in a decent, respectable environment, with a family who will cherish and adore him, educate him, and etc. THAT, in my opinion, is to show him the respect he “deserves”.
And while we are on the subject of ‘deserving’ respect. Seems all LE has gotten from Misty is, ‘ummm.. (blinkity blink).. I dunno’. Evasive and mistruthful.
IMO, Misty has not EARNED the right to have a lil break from the pressure and stress she is under. Until she actually comes forth to LE with what actually happened that night, then IMO the only thing she ‘deserves’ is a swift kick in the @zz.
Thank You UpRoar 🙂 for each of your post.
The rumor of the big fight came from Art Harris first.
Ron and Misty could be victims. We do not know what happened to the poor little girl yet. I do think Misty knows more then what she is saying, but I could be wrong. Ron I believe is totally innocent. The only reason he married Misty is to keep her close so she can not leave as easily in case she knows more. I feel so bad for Ron and his whole family, I hope his daughter comes home safely and soon.
This is I believe the website that published it and here is an exerpt from what they published today.
http://stephww.wordpress.com/
There is some information I published last night that I was told was 100% accurate. Now this morning, I was informed I may have been mislead. So until I can figure out the truth, and print only the facts, I retracted what was written. I said from the beginning, I would never do anything to interfere with an ongoing investigation, and I remain true to that. Also, Misty Cummings deserves to have her side of the story told as well. People are innocent until proven guilty. I am attempting to talk to her, because remember, she is not a suspect, not charged with a crime and she is only 17, and, she is alone. We cannot turn this into a witch hunt; that includes me… guilty as charged. Stay tuned for accurate updates.
I don’t think either Misty or Ron could withstand the pressure if they were guilty. I truly believe that a pedophile broke in and stole Haleigh while Misty and Jr. slept.
All these things that bad reporters saying that Misty has told many different stories etc appears to be a bunch of bs. For example, they say that she did things with the laundry and that the bed was made when Ron got home when she previously said it wasn’t. I just don’t believe all these reports. If we could see actual police reports that say exactly what Misty said at the time, then maybe we’d know the truth.
Why can’t reporters tell the truth? If they speculate, then that’s fine but only if they say it’s speculation.
I would like to talk to the neighbors to ask it there was a fight, or not. Why would Ron wait so long to join her? This story isn’t adding up about Misty’s trip. This doen’t sound in character for all of the players involved.
Dick Schauland coming back on shows me that things are heating up or about to heat up. He came out of retirement to help but retired, again, when things were too slow. Now, he’s back, and it must be because he knows things are getting active, again. There’s a reason.
Good point Chrissy. We will all feel terrible if it turns out that a pedaphile did break in and steal that little girl and Misty is guilty only of being fairly scatterbrained.
I wish that bonding company would have let Cobra go a head and bring that sex offender in that he cuffed instead of calling the whole thing off at the last minute.
It bothers me that that every inch of that sex offender’s property has not been thoroughly searched especially in light of the Jaycee Duggard story. Her stepfather had been suspect for many years and the FBI kept giving him polygraph test after polygraph test 18 years ago.
Well I take a day off to handle real chit and look what happens! Now quote me if you must, but did I not challange Art on the show Sunday about this? Well not that I knew, I was just checking my CI’s. They were all about to get fired not in the D. Trump way, no no no my CI’s tell a lie and somehow they get locked up, I just don’t know how that happens, but they seldom lie to me. Maybe others should share the same! Any questions, the truth fears none…..
Another example of how they twist things and makes me not believe half the stuff they say…. Remember when they said Misty said look for a rose while she was under hypnosis? Well, I think they probably asked her what she would do if she saw Haleigh’s grave and she probably said I’d put a rose on it. AND they twist it to say that she said look for a rose to mark Haleigh’s grave.
Exhibit A
If you go back to last Sunday’s Simon Radio show you can hear Art skating over a direct question to his rumor of the fighting and estrangement. He totally ignores the question and moves back to a comment Nay Nay’s Mother made about Misty and Ronald fighting back in February.
The only time he had good info was when he worked with Cobra and that was eon’s ago.
He’s a clueless hack! I don’t even click on his site anymore. His character and intregrity are in question. He didn’t just get a bad lead, he got bad information and refused to correct it when he was confronted with the evidence they were not fighting. This does not make a solid journalist.
Lastly, he always takes over on Simon’s show, and doesn’t let anyone else get a word in edgewise. He needs to go back to Hollywood and work on M. Jackson. The information was good while he was gone.
Rant over
TY Simon for the story and update. I am not a AH fan by no means. TJ fan all the way here. Where is Haleigh is what I want to know? Haleigh is all I care about.
I agree Texasgoldengirl. I don’t know much about Cobra and the sex offender story.
I strongly feel that this 17 year old would have cracked if she were involved. Now, I do believe that she may very well have a hunch that someone she knows or is related to could possibly have committed this crime. It could be someone she met during partying and happened to mention that she babysits while Ron works nights. You just never know. It could have been the week prior or the month prior. They seem to know a lot of shady people. Her own cousin was a big question mark in my mind. Didn’t the guy take off to TN the day after Haleigh went missing?
She may know something but not know that she knows something – it that makes any sense….
Now quote me if you must, but did I not challange Art on the show Sunday about this
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YES YOU DID COBRA..and I was THANKFUL but he BLEW right over your question.
Please, if someone is spouting untrue information, just because they are “Art Harris”, don’t let them get away with it.
Isn’t that the same thing is watching a liar, lie through his teeth and saying nothing.
AGain, there is a DIFFERENCE from bad information and “BALD faced LYING”.
Anyway, Thank you COBRA for speaking up~
There is nothing sneaky or sinister about why Ron and Misty did not leave on the same day, as they had planned.
For whatever reason, Crystal did not take Jr to his scheduled therapy appointment. Ron wanted to make sure Jr went BUT the therapist could not see Jr on Monday, but could on Tuesday. Ron and Jr stayed at home so that Jr could go to his therapy appointment before they went out of town. After Jr’s appointment they joined Misty out of town.
If people want to look for a pedophile look no further than Misty’s cousin Joe. She said in her interview with TJ Ward that he molested her, and her 5 yr. old cousin. Can Someone tell me why he is not being investigated for those two allegations of molestation?
Misty is telling everything she knows, and if she did know something more nobody would stop her from talking about it. She doesn’t know with certainty who abducted Haleigh, but she does believes cousin Joe is involved.
ROFL, Art Harris’ claims from his so called sources are as ridiculous and outrageous as Lenny Padilla’s statements were in Caylee’s case 🙂
Art, Cobra and Lenny, all BS’rs
Absolutely ShanwHS! Why aren’t they pressuring cousin Joe like they do all the others? Does anyone know what his alibi is?
I agree Chrissy. All anyone has are possible theories right now. I was even wondering with Tommy saying he knocked on the door and no one was home that night, if Tommy (her brother) might not have taken Haleigh?
I don’t put much faith in lie detector tests ever since I found out Ted Bundy passed one. I figure if a sociopath like him can pass as truthful, it’s just as easy for me to believe that some frightened little girl (17 – she really is only a child herself) could be so upset and nervous, she could register deception every which way too.
What’s more, why did the FBI give Carl Probyn at least four polygraphs 18 years ago? We now know that the guy was telling the truth on the first polygraph.
Without Prejudice
With all due respect
You talk about a no name blog spreading rumours, and not verifying his or her sources.. yet, you dont address all of the incorrect statements and misleading information you spread about Misty and Ron Cummings.
An example is what you have written today… which I will quote,
“Are you kidding! She would be the last person we would make that offer to!”
You tell us it is someone close to the investigation he quoted that too you. Well lets see…. Cobra is close to the the investigation, TJ Hart is close to the investigation, you are close to the investigation ..many many ppl that are close to the investigation, are clearly not necessarily ppl who remain unbias and fair in their opinions or their reporting, so is this statement meant to imply that it may be someone from LE who gave you this quote????
Many articles written about this case have sadly, changed the direction from finding Haleigh, too bashing , implicating, insinuating that Misty had something to do with the crime.
No one seems to print that she has been the only one so far who has been consisitant in her story.
LE has actually said that about her too…
Truth be told, if theyall the reports you deem are true, there wud be probable cause and an arrest wud have happened months ago..
Why has she not been arrested?
Why can she leave town and Tommy cant?????
Why are you avoiding printing the huge breaks in thic case? What kind of reporting is this?
What about something like this….
TOMMY CROSLIN PLACED HIMSELF AT THE CRIMESCENE
Why wasnt that a big story for you? Why were you more interested to publish that he had the nerve to say Misty wasnt home.
If you follow any crime stories, it is obvious that something like being placed at the scene of the crime is HUGE.. Especially when he had clearly lied about it for 7 months, Oh and along with his Mother, who is now being held. They both have criminal records and have alledged checkered pasts. Moreso than Misty ever has. Not to nmention what she alleges happened to her at Tommy’s hands.
Have you considered that publishing this is irresponsible and in no way helpful to the case?
How is it helpful to report over and over how Misty must have been involved, even though she has done everything under the sun that LE have asked for and then sum…… yet facilitating BS and manipulating events seem to be bigger than finding Haleigh??????
Is this about members? money? ratings??? WTH???
Misty and Ron both know what happened to Haleigh and need to fess up. Maybe if Ron’s family stopped covering his ass all the time, he would learn to be a real man. you know, grow up and take some responsibility for his own actions.
Cobra knowing what you know about the night HaLeigh was taken, and now learning that Tommy has placed himself at the MH, and that he and his MOTHER were out committing crimes in the middle of the night, should have raised the hair on the back of your neck. It certainly raised mine.
I think it was probably very easy for people to believe that Carl Probyn did something to Jaycee. He was the last one to see her. Police didn’t have near the technology then (cell phone records, video from nearby businesses, etc). It’s a good possibility that he could have been sitting in jail for the crime when Jaycee was found. Thank God he wasn’t!
Doll, where you one that thought Jean Benet Ramsey’s parents murdered her too? What about Madylene McCann’s parents? I really don’t think Ron or Misty are involved. But I didn’t believe the Ramsey’s or McCann’s were involved either.
I wouldn’t be surprised to hear that police forced Tommy to say he went to the home just to stir the pot with Misty and Ron. I don’t know what to believe since there’s so many theories out there and I don’t know which are fact.
whatever of course they were all lovey dovey in front of a camera duh and his family is covering for her come on
give junior to crystal asap
fed up with misty fest-
GO SUCK AN EGG WHILE BLOGGING ELSE WHERE. IF YOU DN’T LIKE WHAT GOES ON AT BNN DN’T READ IT.BETTER YET GET YOUR OWN SITE,THEN YOU CAN HAVE YOUR OWN SOURCES AND WRITE AND EDIT AS YOU SEE FIT.
SIMON SAID HE’S NOT PERFECT WHAT ELSE DO YOU WANT?
Chrissy, I am not sure what happened in the Ramsey case.
I do think in this case that something bad happened to Haleigh while she was with Misty that night. Some kind of accident caused by carelessness. I also think that Ron knows what happened and is covering for Misty.
It seems he was brought up believing that there are no consequences for bad behavior.
It also seems as if he now transfers that onto Misty.
I don’t think it is Misty he is trying to protect though. I think he is trying to protect himself, because he left those young children with her. Knowing she is not a responsible adult. Also knowing she had been on a 3 day drug binge, ending only the day before this poor little girl went missing.
All of this,is my opinion only .
Just from following this case, and the facts surrounding it.
Texasgoldengirl: I believe the SO that Cobra temporarily arrested was/is wearing an ankle bracelet so I’d think his movements could be tracked for the night Haleigh went missing. I don’t know why Cobra was arresting him other than that the SO had tried to donate furniture to the Haleighbug Center which presumably took him “near children” which would be illegal. Therefore it had nothing to do with Haleigh – not anywhere but in Cobra’s mind (although I could be mistaken). If that wasn’t why, then I don’t know.
And what you said about the CA guy having been given dozens of polygraphs years ago – that’s exactly why I was saying why demand that Ron take another one? Stupid and useless. The reason LE did not catch that CA guy after he kidnapped Jaycee Dugand was because they did not monitor his parole in any kind of effective way. Totally dropped the ball. And he had been sentenced to 50 years PLUS five more from the Feds. Then let go after what, 8 years?
THAT’s what the public – people like us – have to stand up and scream about. First, longer sentences. Second, NO early outs. And third constant close watch when on parole. (That is if we can’t just shoot ’em to begin with).
Chrissy,
I think the police zero in routinely on “the last person to acknowledge seeing the victim” and then just act like a dog with a bone. I wish they would re-think that practice.
I saw a little boy get hiy by a car once and called 911. I have a friend who used to be a policewoman and she told me, “Oh my god, they are going to think you hit the child with your car because you called” when I told her what happened.
I told my friend the couple that hit the child stopped and pulled over and waited for the police to arrive and she sighed with relief. Hey, can’t someone even call 911 when they see a child get hit with a car without becoming the number one suspect?
My friend just said it was a good thing the people who hit the boy stopped. Go figure?
I’m grateful for all the people who are working to find Haleigh, Art, Jan, Simon, Cobra, Denny & TJ. Journalist sometimes have to depend on sources, and there is always a chance for error. It happens to the best. Can the critics just appreciate and support the great team we have working their butts off on this case?
BTW FED UP HE OR THEY[BNN] WRITE ABOUT MISTY BECAUSE #1 IT’S CALLED FREEDOM IN THE PRESS #2 IT’S HIS SITE #3 IT’S HIS OPINION AND #4 SOME OF US HAPPEN TO APPRICIATE THE CLAN AT BNN KEEPING US INFORMED.IF THEY MAKE A MISTAKE THEY TRY TO FIX IT A.S.A.P.LAST BUT NOT LEAST MISTY IS A LIAR. NOT SO MUCH BCUZ THE POLYGRAPH BUT THE STORIES DIDN’T ADD UP THEY WERE INCONSISTANT,WHICH MISTY HERSELF ADMITTED. BUT CLAIMED SHE DIDN’T KNOW WHY, AFTER A LONG PAUSE…AND REALIZING HER NEW HUBBY WASN’T COMING TO HER LYING AID.IN NEW YORK THE DAY AFTER THE WEDDING ON THE MORNING SHOW I BELIEVE
To Fed Up with the Misty Fest!
Actually what LE said about Misty is that she has consistently been INconsistent in her statements about what happened that night!
LOL!
Lindaoz, I agree with you!!!! Thank you!!!!!
m2c
cobra was told by the bonding company to bring him in and cobra had the guys file which he could have only gotten if they gave it to him, but in the midst of cuffing him right after he put him in the car the bonding company then called him and told him to let the guy go.
My concern is the guy lived across the lake and had a boat in his front yard. They showed that haleigh’s footprints went down to the water’s edge. If he drove over to Misty’s and Ron’s it would have taken him out of the range for his monitor. If he took his boat right across the lake it would not have registered on his monitor.
Junior thought he heard squeaky footprints? could that be because someone had wet shoes.
what’s more, what is to keep that molester from paying someone to bring him haleigh? He could sit right there in his house and open the front door and hand someone the cash and take the little girl without his monitor registering.
I’m disgusted that the police just said. “Eh, his monitor didn’t go off and automatically eliminated him as a suspect.
make that squeaky footsteps or shoes or .. however junior said it. I don’t feel comfortable about the monitor alone being what LE used to eliminate that guy as a suspect.
Simon Barrett said,in September 30th, 2009 at 3:58 pm The fight was indeed reported by Art Harris, but also several other news orgs. I smelled a rat on the story, so opted not to run with it.
The news biz is a strange one, sometimes you have to run on hunches.In this case both HLN and their source were wrong.
Quite frankly I was amazed that NG ran with it. She rarely makes mistakes, which is why her news is often days old!
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Simon,
From your post:
“The news biz is a strange one, sometimes you have to run on hunches.”
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I have never heard a more ridiculous statement. Legitimate news reporters go by “Facts”!
IMO and Facts
texasgoldengirl – I never heard any of that stuff in relation to Cobra’s temporary arrest of that SO but maybe I missed it.
And I agree. I have been disgusted from the start that LE supposedly “ruled out” ALL the known SO’s so very very quickly. LE decided very early on – for what reasons I do not know – that it was not a “stranger” abduction. I still want to know what they mean by “stranger.” Pedophile “cousin Joe” isn’t a stranger but he could have done it. And the “opposite” of stranger does not necessarily mean it’s a family member. It could be a family friend, acquaintance.
LE has messed up a lot IMO from the beginning.
And yes you are right! Another SO could have done it. Some of these guys are in networks and could easily do each other “favors.”
M2c,
It really bugs me after seeing how they didn’t check Garrido out all those years. They will feel pretty stupid if haleigh pops up 18 years from now and says, “Hi daddy. I was right across the lake all this time. Oh, and btw. I had a couple babies.”
m2c, I think texasgg is right on concerning Cobra. From all the facts I have been able to gather Cobra was acting totally on the right side of the law. I personally think he was set up. I do not believe he did anything wrong. There has been alot of blogging about his situation and a bunch of accusations about his motives. My question is, why has he NEVER had these issues in the past? As long as he has done this type of work, as many LE that has worked with him in the past, as many criminals as he has brought in for LE in the past, he has NEVER had these accusations. But look at all that has happened to him for trying so hard to find a little girl. Any man that is willing to walk the ditches and search the swamps is WELCOME to look for anyone that I love that is missing. NONE of Haleigh’s family was working so hard in such horrible conditions to look for her. It is beyond me why that type of personal sacrifice would not be appreciated. You can take it to the bank that if someone I love is gone I WELCOME Cobra and every other human who is willing to search for my loved one. My personal opinion is he must have been toooooooo close to Haleigh or some other crime that someone wanted him out of town no matter what the cost. Sad for Haleigh!!!! Thanks for letting me vent. Treece
Who knows whats truth and fiction in this case really ? the only thing we know for sure is haleigh is gone and misty fan are jailed for stealin and they are drug addicts thats all we know 4 sure we are blogin bout our personal opinior god feelings and what we beleive might have happened we are not lyin since the beginning we have been mis informed we are just tryin to figure out what happened as far as it goes i respect every ones opinion you have to it gives you wisdom try and see if you think bout everyones points you may b able to c the light
mlee Sept 30th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
i think mlee has a some good points.
to me it sure felt from afar that the case quickly became more about “the protecting the future prosecution” than still about pursuing all possibilities of what happened to haleigh. of course there is only so much money. and there is very strong statistics about what most likely happened. but, if there was more of a emergency approach or aggressive approach to those directly involved initially, maybe they would be guessing less and knowing more.
maybe it just comes down to a call the police have to make. but, i was hoping that the police (within the law of course) would have been more aggressive with those close to the case. such as arresting someone maybe on a drug charge. give people time apart if possible to think for themselves. or instead of being so supportive of the family maybe being more aggressive with all of them.
they said they were pursing a live child, but it sure didn’t seem like it after the initial massive search for her. i was afraid they knew or believed haleigh was dead. so time will tell if l.e. using the more patient approach was the way to go. but, it will probably take a verrry long time if ever if she is deceased.
what are we hoping for now. lisa to tell the police something??? if so, maybe they should also charge her with hving possession of the stolen gun. could that motivate anyone in the croslin clan to tell what they know if they know anything?
PLEASE READ THE COMMENTS ON THE STORY PRIOR TO THIS ONE AS IT MAY ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS.
I am delighted they all got away for a break and I truly hope Jr. had a wonderful time.
I don’t think Misty did anything to HaLeigh, I really think LE need to look at Amber and Lisa Brooks, as well as TOMMY and cousin JOE.
I don’t think Tommy went to the MH and just ‘banged’ on the door and hung around for a while. I think Tommy and Joe went to rob Ron, to steal the gun, who better to sneak around and know the sleeping habits of his sister? The door propped open is a cousin Joe trademark.
Please LE, place Tommy, cousin Joe, Amber and Lisa Brooks in a room together and find the truth!
Prayers for the safe return of HaLeigh.
Cobra can you tell up if law enforcement is really doin their job? are they just takin dogs to the possible burial sites or are the digging? has any of haleigh family come forward and help you with the search? also i wanted to say thanks for givin a dam bout kids it means alot also i was wonderin if they checked into the murt and slueth might bein involved
I agree ms peridot but you know another thought i had is maybe ron and misty planned that trip to say good bye to jr because they are goin to tell urug about hay if indeed they are involved and they wanted jr to have one more memory he would cherish it might have been a simple accident that happened to hay but with them bein under influence blew out of proportion and now they cant tell the truth im prob way wrong but it was a thought i do however think ron and misty play a big part in this together alibi or no alibi
So how about this scenerio? Misty left the two children that night and went to a party,not locking the door. Her brother came and knocked on the door then discovered the door was open, went in to discover Misty gone. Propped the door open and carried Haleigh out. Misty came home to find Junior sleeping.
Now they are covering each other’s butts so each will not get found out.
How is Ronald going to like it when he finds out the truth about his little teen bride?
Sounds very possible, however, why hasn’t the person or persons partying with Misty coming forward to say she was with them and the kids weren’t there? I read somewhere that Misty said she was exhausted that night. She very well could have slept through someone (Joe, Tommy, or stranger) coming into the home to steal the child.
treece, what I was discussing with Texasgg was the reason why Cobra was trying to arrest that SO. I’m still unclear about it. If he was arresting him for anything to do with Haleigh’s disappearance why would he need permission from the bail agent that was in charge of a previous situation with the guy (the reason the SO was out on bail and with an ankle monitor)?
In other words, I believe that someone can be out on bail for one crime and still be arrested for another crime -without having to ask anyone’s permission (especially the bail agent for the original crime).
If Cobra had wanted to have the SO’s bond for the original crime revoked, I don’t know why. What does that have to do with Haleigh’s disappearance or with that SO going to Haleighbug headquarters? Those are different things. So that’s what I’m confused about. People keep talking about Cobra trying to arrest this guy for something to do with Haleigh – and getting messed over by the bail agent for the SO’s original crime. Doesn’t make sense to me.
But then I’ve never read a clear explanation of it.
Pinkey32/HUMBLED said,in September 30th, 2009 at 5:39 pm fed up with misty fest-
GO SUCK AN EGG WHILE BLOGGING ELSE WHERE. IF YOU DN’T LIKE WHAT GOES ON AT BNN DN’T READ IT.BETTER YET GET YOUR OWN SITE,THEN YOU CAN HAVE YOUR OWN SOURCES AND WRITE AND EDIT AS YOU SEE FIT.
SIMON SAID HE’S NOT PERFECT WHAT ELSE DO YOU WANT?
Dear Pinkey,
I will address your “post”???
Its unfortunate, that you feel angered about the comments and questions, I have asked.
The purpose of my post, was to point out a few things in Misty’s favor which is clearly seldom seen, and you havent addressed them. Isnt it unproductive to run away from some good questions? Im sure the author can speak for himself and is not dependant on members to fight his battles with silly cliches from the 80’s.
There was an invitation on this blog for comments. Are the only comments you want to read, blaming Misty? Have you ever looked at the possibility that Misty has been telling the truth? If she is, cud you understand, how there is nothing left to tell LE? She has had hundreds of hours of interrogation with them. They arent stupid, and after so many hours, if there were all these inconsistencies you refer to, wud you not thionk that she wud go in front of the Grand Jury? Does she appear to you, that she wud be intelligent enough, to fool LE and the FBI and every other agency that has been involved for this long?? Has there been any allegations of her being a liar, and a coniver, prior to this event? Why wud she keep going bak for more polygraphs and voice analysis, and hypnosis, if she had something to hide? Are you the type of narrow minded person who wont look at anything with an open mind? Have you come to your opinion because of shoddy reporting that many many reporters have been on this case.
Again, I ask for you and anyone else to address the concerns I have about Misty’s guilt and the new lead LE has with Tommy’s confession.
Also, someone made a great post about Jaycee’s stepfather. He lost his marriage over the suspicion cast over his head and had their been the internet back then, he wud have endured what Misty has. These 2 ppl arent alone. There are many ppl like them.
If polygraphs were reliable, they wud be admissable in court.
BTW M2C,
The Ramsays’s were both exonerated. There was touch DNA, extracted and they were all cleared in 2008.
As far as Maddie’s killer, who really knows There is sure not enough evidence to date, to arrest on probable cause, or they wud have been charged.
Also, it was Tim Miller, who said that Misty was consistently inconsistent… not LE
and M2C, I do appreciate your diplomacy in your respsonse.
One more thing, a thug died today, who had snatched a 9 yr old girl out of her bed when she slept, and not a soul heard him!!
Had Mark Lunsford been living with a 17 yr old girl, she wud have been accused too. Had they not found Jessica, it wud have only been a matter of time before everyone turned on him and his family.
These are a couple of good examples of how it can happen and does. You have to consider the source of all information, in your convictions. Clearly Misty, in no Casey Anthony.
I am so sick of all the bull,yes everyone needs a break,and yes Jr should be aloud to be a child and have fun,as for Misty oh big deal,I can’t feel sorry for that girl or Ronald.She needed to get away,have another smoke,maybe even a candy bar,or another night out to party.These people live on hard earned money the rest of us make.The sleep till noon,watch soaps,and eat off food stamps.And they can go to Orlando,while Haleigh is missing,Haleigh would love to go have some fun too.They have used this child to pad their selfish pockets,go on trips,lay up in nice hotels,eat out and enjoy their poor little selves,it makes me sick and we are to feel sorry for those two worthless people.If Haleigh was my child I would not think of having fun,I would not be away from my home,I would not have moved from that trailer,I would want to stay right there till I found my child.As for Jr having a day to be away from all the problems we CPS should have taken care of that.They should of taken that child from that bunch of loser a long time ago.Well people can feel sorry for that nasty little piss poor excuse for a stepmother all you want too,but that was in poor taste anyway you look at it.Hell I am having it rough,I am raising 4 grand children,my husband is working from 5am everyday to take care of us,he is 60 years old and has had a stroke,I had a heart attack,am 57,and we don’t get help from the state,anyone out there want to pay our way for a few days of fun in Orlando,hell I would be happy for a dinner out one night with the family.Misty and Ronald do need to be locked up for being neglectful,worthless,and being a total waste of skin.Sorry I just had to vent as this mess really has me upset.Please will someone find out what happen to Haleigh,and stop playing games with her life.God if your listening please grant us all this one prayer,let us all know what happen,and where she is now.It has been too long.For the love of Haleigh
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The best I understand what happened is the SO was breaking his original charge by being at the Haleigh foundation. He also raised alot of suspicion by being there when part of his bail is to stay away from kids. There were people there who recognized him & ask him to leave. They told Cobra the SO was there & acting weird and got rude when ask to leave even though little kids were around. I think Cobra questioned the original bonds company who told him they wanted the guy picked up and gave Cobra the SO file which gave him the authority to do it. The guy wasn’t detained more than a few minutes and 2 police officers were there for the entire thing. Basically he had the guy in his truck about 2 minutes when someone called Cobra & said let him go they changed their mind & didn’t want to revolk the bond after all. The entire deal is on film. Because this charge is against Cobra he can’t be a bondsman or bounty until it is resolved which caused him to not be able to work. This is probably not exactly right but I think it is basically the deal. Does this answer your question? I always enjoy your post. Treece
TO: Fed Up with the Misty “Fest”~
IT WAS PUTNAM COUNTY SHERIFF’S OFFICE WHO SAID MISTY WAS INCONSISTANT…over and over and over and over again.
GOOGLE Results 1 – 10 of about 166,000 for Misty Croslin inconsistent. (0.32 seconds)
Although not named a suspect, Putnam County Sheriff’s Major Gary Bowling states the following about Croslin-Cummings: “we factually know that she is consistently inconsistent and we need some factual exactness about her activities the night before Haleigh disappeared until the morning when she was reported missing.”
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2136989/haleigh_cummings_is_missing_stepmother.html
U Clueless twit and rumor monger.
Fed up, I agree with you it is possible Misty is a victim herself. I have blogged that many times. I have defended her so many times. I think she has had a terrible life and should be treated innocent until proven guilty. I personally think her crime is protecting someone else. But I don’t think she should be treated bad until someone knows truth. I don’t think your opinion of Misty is what was offensive on this blog. I think the way you came across smart Alec about Cobra, TJ & Simon is what was not appreciated. JMO Thanks, Treece
m2c, my post at 8:58 was for you. Sorry, I left off your “name”.
we are sitting hear and reading and judging..i am the last to be able to judge..that being said i have seen comments read them and one or more things come to mind.
Tell me if any thing sounds familar from a very familar case:
a mother lied and even took police on a wild goose chase telling them she even had a job, later we find all lies..
her stories changed like an unending novel
she pulled pi in to help. family stood by her stories and they were whoppers
the press was attack for lying i believe one of them was at jay blanchard park….
hundreds on of thousands of dollars being spent in this babies search.we heard over and over we are looking at a live caylee not a dead caylee…i am not saying haleigh is dead. what i am trying to say is millions of ppl are looking thinking and trying to find this BABY and we are throwing stones.No one could have had more inconsistancys than her. we hang to every press agent and news outlet for updates,just like now but if it goes bad one way holy shmoly we lose it. remember the time when there were no simons cobras and such to keep us posted.I thank them from the bottom of my heart for doing this for us and yes they are human and make mistakes …but dont we???
Simon you are a master in what you do…and it’s for that reason I can call you my friend. So let the haters hate it’s the Napoleon Concept” little dogs that bark never bite.
Fed up,
besides your rude way of aproaching a situation, you have valid points. And I agree with you…in some way.
Me personally Ron is the link to this whole case. Its him and only him that will bring this to a closure. With the truth he hides. Only time will tell.
We need Jack Bauer & Chuck Norris to get the answers…oh no wait we have The Cobra!!!!!
I wish Ron’s mother would not be on Nancy Grace. She never gives us any info, and Nancy jumps on her about like she did on Crystal.
Nancy just upsets her. Why does she appear on there?
OH Treece, I am sure you would say the same if Haleigh were your daughter and Misty was the last one to see her. You are such a fair and wonderful human being, you should be lauded.
BTW
Cobra I fully support your every action taken in this case. Like I’ve said before you are Haleigh’s hero. Not daddy or mommy. But you, along with Simon, and TJ Hart. I thank you.
To Wyks (4:11 p.m.): Agree with your comments!
Glad Jr. (Butter-bean) got to go on a little vacation and have fun like a child his age should be having.
I was beginning to believe that maybe Misty was in the process of being placed in Protective Custody (provided she told all). Glad to hear she is back in Satsuma and under surveillance (per media).
Has anyone heard how Lisa Croslin’s (Misty’s mom) court appearance turned out today in Davidson County, TN? According to the media last week, she was scheduled for a court appearance today. I have not been able to find anything on the Internet. If anyone knows, please reply. Thanks!
Does anyone know anything further about details surrounding Cousin Joe other than whats printed below?
Firstcoastnews.com 3/4/09
The Croslins say about two weeks before Haleigh disappeared, Joe and Haleigh’s dad, Ronald Cummings, had an issue over a gun. “He stole Ronald’s gun. One morning, on the porch, said, Ronald will get what’s coming to him. It was dropped, he left and Haleigh was gone,” says Lisa Croslin.
Police confirm they are investigating the information about the stolen gun.
A week and a half ago, when police were asked if Joe was a suspect police said, “The one in Tennessee? No, he is not at all.”
But then later, police changed their comment to no one has been ruled in or out as a suspect.
“The way I understand it, they’re not ruling them out. I don’t want to get in trouble for things I say, I don’t know. The police is doing their jobs,” says Hank Croslin.
Could Joe have gotten even with Ron?
Cobra stays up all night. Now Vampires don’t come out at all!!!!!
Treece and Armando,
Regarding my approach, I re read my original post, and I agree that my appraosch was harsh, and at the same time, wasnt the writers approach harsh? I did try and be respectful in pointing out some very serious concerns that are definitley to Misty’s advantage. I am frustrated that so many ppl cud be so biased and follow ppl’s opinions as though they are gospel.
Still only one person has address some serious concerns.
UPROAR, I will address you last. First, I usually would refrain from replying to anyone who resorts to “Name Calling” when involved in any type of debate, but with respect, I will tell you that a big part of the problem and why many ppl are convinced this 17 yr old may have been involved, is because of what is being put on the internet bty unreliable sources. Thsi quote you have provided is a great example. This quote is a blogger citing something. There is no link and the Associated blog is not what should be a considerable source. Nothing wrong with Blog sites, but you got so many hit Uproar, from blog sites taking the informations and spreading it. This is my point, and what I see has happened. Its not right.
Still only a few here, have addressed my points and have shown an open mind to at least consider them.
Also, just remember this situatio has happened to other ppl in real life, and hopefully it wud never happen to a loved one of our own.
The smart case is a good example of family members failing polygraphs, and Im sure if Elizabeth had have never been found, that doubt over Ed wud have only got worse.
Cobra can get a taped confession from a mute!
Every body needs to lighten up some, HS!
Let’s rejoice in the findinngs that we’ve had lately. It seem like good progress is begining to occur.
At the end of this is… how many “I told you so’s” will there be. Everyone will be celebrating how right they were…and Haleigh?
I upset all 15 residents of Satsuma with my article abt they’re lack of support. To be truly honest…I don’t give a —-! Someone who I rather not say, said “I’m lucky I didn’t get shot”. Lucky?? I went there for Haleigh, and I was lucky not to get shot. Huh? Wow! I say you’re lucky you haven’t been caught!!
One goal in mind…finding Haleigh. That’s it. Like Malcom X said “By any means neccesary”!!!!!!!!!!!
TO: Fed Up with the Misty “Fest”,
You are as bad as Art Harris, not admitting you made a MISTAKE. You are FOS, it has been all over legitimate media outlets and YOU KNOW IT.
From Gainesville:
On Friday afternoon, Putnam Sheriff’s Maj. Gary Bowling weighed his words carefully in describing his agency’s view of Croslin-Cummings’ situation.
“No, I don’t think we consider her a suspect,” Bowling said. “We factually know that she is consistently inconsistent and we need some factual exactness about her activities the night before Haleigh disappeared until the morning when she was reported missing.”
http://www.gainesville.com/article/20090828/ARTICLES/908289905?Title=New-search-for-Haleigh-may-come-Saturday
OR WOULD A PRESS RELEASE FROM PUTNAM Sheriff’s Office convince you. This is just one of MANY.
Investigators believe that Misty Croslin-Cummings continues to hold important answers in the case. She has failed to provide any sort of detailed accounting of the hours during the late evening and early morning of Haleigh’s disappearance. Furthermore, physical evidence at the scene contradicts Misty’s sketchy account of her evening activities. Any citizen with direct knowledge of Misty’s activities during that evening or into the early morning is encouraged to report that information to the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office.
http://www.pcso.us/2009-8-17-a
YOU OWN IT, YOU ARE FOS! Now you got the attention you were screaming for.
OF COURSE THEY WERE FIGHTING—the degree of the seriousness of the fight, should be our only question. Who wouldn’t be fighting with a pond being drained looking for your little girls’ body, and letters coming from jail about your wife being at a party with some man she had spent a week-end with, and the possibility your child overdosed at the party? Please, we have to be real! Would you be fighting with your mate under those circumstances?
I don’t claim to know exactly what happened to Haleigh. None of us know that, if we are honest. LE knows alot more than they are saying. From what I understand, this is a town with one red-light, or not much bigger than that. Not much is missed in a place like that. I think LE is opening up a little more to us now, because they realize they are causing alot of the second-guessing and frenzy surrounding this case.
I don’t know who is to blame, but Ron, Misty, The Cummings’ and The Croslins’ have done alot of covering up when they should be open and honest trying to find Haleigh. Stories have changed from hour to hour in this case, and there is a reason for that. We will know, soon, I feel.
Why are we being so hard on LE in this case? Some cases take years to solve, especially, in Florida. LE doesn’t have a body, blood, or any evidence that they can base a case on, yet. I believe this case is near to being solved, but it will be thru leaks from people involved.
Why are we being so hard on each other and the people trying to report on this case? I choose to let everyone have their own opinions, and it is not a threat to me if someone has a different opinion than I have.
My goodness gracious ~~
truths/lies
facts/speculations
snarky remarks/smirky allegations
simple accusations/ugly innuendos
Thank God little Jr. cannot read!
All in all – I am glad they got away from the constant scrutiny of the media – bloggers (me) – just to be a family.
Ron must truly believe Misty is innocent of any criminal or neglectful actions in the disappearance of his daughter – little Haleighbug. Even Haleigh’s mom wants to toss her under the bus.
I think Tommy – Hank JR – must be lying about beating on the trailer door the night Haleigh went missing, and no one was home, or else LE would be all over Misty with it – where were you, ect..? – we have phone evidence that Ron called Tommy (so many times) and Tommy…, blah blah blah.
Thank God little Jr. cannot read…
Well, with Misty as his Mother and teacher it is possible he never will be able to read.
Uproar~Genius! Lol
God forgive us for being so mean to each other. IF it weren’t for the grace of God there go I. Thank you Lord that I was able to get an education, and over came being raised by a “poor” single mom in a one horse town. Please give Misty an opportunity to better herself and most of all lead her to a way to find you. If Haleigh is alive please bring her into the light and let her be found. If she is dead please bring out truth and justice for her.
It’s 12:20 where I’m from and it’s bad enough I have to scroll for ten minutes, but now we’re praying on blogs… I’ve heard it all now. No disrespect but, damn!
Too late for all this mayhem I gotta life in the morning, god bless us all…Tiny Tim.
Simon awesome article as always, but after scrolling 87 comments, well…you know. Lol
words of wisdom: “Its always good to loan a helping hand, the challenge is getting them to let go.”.
Amen!
In my hearts of hearts ,I feel Daniel Snobgrass had something to do with some one taking haliegh.Like his friend Marty run across the river and oicked her up for him JMO
Im surprised that many wudnt expect Ron and Misty to be fighting …all the time.
Number one, they had no foundation in their relationship, before the tragedy struck, and certainly none to base a marraige on.
With all the rumours and speculation about Misty being involved, there would be no way that wouldnt be wearing on both of them.
We know that Jaycee’s mom lost her marriage to Jaycee’s step dad who was the number one supect and now 18 yrs later, he is totally off the hook.
It appears that some feel that Misty was indirectly involved by either not being home, of accidently hurting haleigh in some way.
Has anyone wondered why no one has talked? There has been 70k for the case craker in this and judging from the company that is kept by both Ron and Misty, it is not logical to think that a “poor” addict wouldnt have jumped hoops to get their hands on that money. Surely, if Misty was at a party, someone would have been at LE in a matter of days.
On the other hand, if Misty accidently did something to end her life, what did she do with Haleigh? How has she managed to contain herself this long withoput breaking. She lacks articulation, and confidence. How could she have kept her story together all this time?
Why is she allowed to leave town, and Tommy cant.
Did LE find out that Tommy was out the crime scene by something left there?? Fingerprint, footprint, someone placed him there????
It sounds loke by Tommy telling LE, that he was at the crimescene, makes me wonder if LE confronted him with this and he had to think up an excuse. Of course LE would have already known from phone records that Ron contacted the Croslin household to see if Misty was there. They would have known this easly on where it must have all been a consistent story way back, where this story had been corroborated with all parties involved. Now all of a sudden Tommy changes the story. Why??? He would have never felt the need to protect Misty back at the start as she had already publically slammed him for what he allegedly did to her. Why would he wait 7 months, for this confession? The whole family has always thrown each other under the bus so why did he wait this long????
Also, if there was any merrit, in this letter of Nay Nay’s, alleging this “accusation” against Misty, why didnt LE find any evidence? Surely, if Haleigh was in that pond, no one would have been able to go back and move her. They would never had found the black bag.
If you are a believer that Misty has involvement, have you considered any of these things?
Treese:
I second your prayer.
I can see why Misty and Ron needed a vacation from each other. We need a vacation from them, too.
FUWTMF – I’m with you. I’m all but convinced that it’s an SO. I consider myself a regular-normal person and I nowhere near had the composure that Misty has shown when I was 17. Are you kidding, I would have demonstrated anger to hysterics and everything in between. She’s not the brightest person and she’s even made some poor judgments in life, but I don’t think she hurt that child. That’s why no one is coming forward because the police are squeezing the wrong group of people. Maybe if the reward were higher (I thought it was only at $30k) then maybe the Marty guy would come forward. Didn’t someone even say that they saw a man in a boat that night? Maybe I’ve mixed that up with another case. Good night – bed time for me.
Does anyone know the outcome of Lisa Croslin’s court appearance in Davidson County, TN?
If you do, please reply. Thanks!
Just reading on scared monkeys. It says that Lisa Croslin can no longer bail out. It went from $100k to $0. I’ll keep reading.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=6184.1260
This will take you to page 60 something. Start reading here.
Haleigh Cummings Update: Lisa Croslin Extradition
TJ Hart
97.3 The SKY has learned from the Davidson County, TN Clerk regarding Lisa Croslin’s hearing:
* Lisa Croslin’s hearing Wednesday resulted in Croslin signing waivers so that FL authorities can come and pick her up
* A status court date of 10/14/09 was entered – FL has 10 days to pick up Croslin so this date will not likely result in another hearing in Davidson assuming FL comes to take her back to Putnam County
* The waiver is an extradition waiver required in order for her to be transferred
* The $100K bond was changed – because Croslin signed the waivers they changed the bond to an “open court” bond – it’s for security reasons, so a bondsman can’t bond her out before FL officials come to get her
http://ow.ly/s1XZ
I read early in the case that a neighbor saw Tommy Croslin come by there that night. So when Tommy admitted that he had come by to LE, that was all they needed. I, also, heard something about someone hearing a boat out there that night.
I am wondering why they are being so hard on Lisa, except Misty might be more likely to talk to help her Mother out than she would her brother.
I heard on the NG program that there would be no bond on Lisa Croslin until she was brought back to Florida. LE is really serious about questioning her.
I heard Misty say on an Art Harris interview that she called her mother that night because she was so scared. LE has the telephone records, and I wonder what time Misty made that call.
To Chrissy and Karon Cox: Thanks for the info!
Found the following update from T.J. Hart:
http://www.thesky973.com/pages/5336345.php
The Sky 97.3 Gainesville, Fl. 9–30-09 3:09 p.m. EDT
“Haleigh Cummings Update: Lisa Croslin Extradition” by T.J. Hart
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Thank you for keeping us informed T.J.!
Armando @ 11:23pm – I don’t know where you’ve been but I’ve seen plenty of prayers expressed on BNN blogs since Caylee Anthony went missing. Nothing new there. And nothing wrong with it either. I hope you agree. But it’s fine if you don’t.
Has anyone seen Lisa’s MUG SHOT??
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I need to agree. How do we know that Misty wasn’t sleeping and someone creeped in and took Haleigh? We don’t know that. We are getting half truths & speculation from the media. Meanwhile, if they had anything on Misty, they would have arrested her by now.
Her & Ron are too stupid to pull this over professionals like LE. So are all the key players in this story. Too stupid to pull off anything.
Back to Ground Zero. We don’t know what happened that night.
That’s great that they aren’t angry/fighting/living apart BUT if Misty would have been honest from the get go, none of us would be discussing this right now. I agree that the media is wrong if they report things that are false on purpose. I agree that Jr. needs to keep being a kid and getting away on a trip is great for that. But again, this dragging on seems to be Misty’s fault. The false reports do bother me but Misty bothers me more because she is the key to this whole case but she won’t end the circus.
BTW-JR NEVER went to the Disney Park. It was confirmed on NG last night. It was planned, but didn’t happen.
M2c. You’re right! Prayers are awsome! But to write them out com on’. I haven’t read your prayers. Probably because you say them to yourself.
I will give you this; every comment you’ve written has made absolute sense, I back u up 100%.
I just thought that was a bit extreeme. And you’re right again I have stayed away for a bit. I have a huge move across country. So blogging has left the fore front for the time being.
Plus the Satsuma comunnity is mad at me because I stated the they did not care…at all! Oh well!!!! I have no apologies…none! Satsuma is worst then Iraq. At least We can spot an Iraqi terrorist. Satsumas CHILD predators are hard to spot. They cover and hide real well. Just ask Ron!
One last thought till the next cones to mind,
“The Devil does not scare the hell out of Cobra, Cobra scared the devil out off hell”. ~ me.
on a vacation at universal studios??? are u f’ing kidding me …these freakin ppl have taken every handout offered and done just how much work to searching around for their kid. wtf man seriously!
if it was my kid missing i’d be at every search i’d take no handouts other then for help to find my kid ..these ppl should be ashamed of themselves its total BS.
i got 3 kids and if any of them went missing my sole purpose in life would be finding my child and making sure they’re safe and after that getting whatever vengence and/or justice upon the ppl that harmed them or sought to harm them. stress level or no stress level i’d rather drop dead of a heart attack then take the focus off finding my child. and these morons wonder why the media spotlights on them and they’re being fingered by the world as the suspects.
this whole case and casey anthony’s crap makes me sick at how low class and uncaring ppl can be towards the children we brought into this world
Misty ONLY was in Universal. Why?? Don’t know.
Ron was NOT there with Jr.
Cobra dosent have to do anything for a Klondike bar.
Kj
well said!! my point exactly…..
I’m not sure what I would do if it were my child. I’m afraid that I would be in jail because with or without the proper legalities, I think I would have gone over to that SO’s house and torn it apart looking for my little girl one day when I knew he wasn’t home.
Then when I got out on bond for that, I would get thrown right back in the slammer for tearing apart another SO’s home and property looking for my little girl. Third strike and I’d be in prison forever I guess.
I’m having a hard time understanding what inconsistencies Misty had that seem so all fired important? She was wrong about what Misty was wearing – turned out that outfit was still at the house…but honestly I had to look down just now to see which blouse I put on this morning..that’s a fact! I couldn’t remember.
My point being that misty seems to be a little scatterbrained about details. The kids were sleeping with her she said and I think she said in the same bed. Then she changed it to the mattress on the floor next to her bed which I’m wondering if she didn’t change that story because there was such an uproar about how could a kid be taken right out of the same bed someone was sleeping in.
Honestly, though if someone was tired enough from three days with no sleep and fighting with boyfriend, it could happen, but Misty is young and may have needed a story that people approved of so she changed her story to try for approval.
She is not old enough to be strong enough to be who she is and say what she says and realize you just can’t please other people so you have to have your own appproval.
Also, she could easily have been sleeping so soundly she didn’t hear her cell phone when Ron called 20 times and I have no trouble believing someone could pick a child up right out of the same bed I was sleeping in if I was tired enough when I went to sleep.
I remember one time when I went without sleep for so long that when I did fall asleep, I doubt anything could have awakened me. The alarm clock right next to my head went off with an alarm loud enough to wake the dead for five minutes solid (that’s how long that alarm went off before it finally quit if the button wasn’t pressed….and I slept right through it.
After a while, after so much abuse, the body will just shut down and say, you closed your eyes….now you will sleep until I tell you you can open your dad-gummed eyes. It’s a matter of survival for the body. Sleep is essential and sooner or later the body will DEMAND it and give you no more choice.
Sorry-let’s not turn this into a Art Harris blog site. Let’s not condemn anyone until ALL the facts are in.
We only know what bits & pieces the media feeds to us. And who knows how much they really know??
I do not believe it was a stranger who took Haleigh. A stranger who may have been stalking to see when it would be best to kidnap a child would not have taken time to take Haleighs NEBULIZER. Crystals nebulizer was accounted for by LE, but not Rons. You must remember LE found no force of entry into the home. Ron and Misty both gave statements that everything was locked up.If you listen to the 911 call the operator asked Misty if the door looked as if someone tried to break in ;Misty said no. You can clearly hear Ron say yes the lock is turned sideways ( Misty does not lie here, Ron does ). I believe LE would not have reported no force of entry if the lock had been turned side ways. In the 911 call Misty says Haleigh was wearing a pink shirt and underwear, but 20 minutes later in the police report Misty says Haleigh was wearing a pink shirt and tan shorts. Mistys first story is she got up to get a drink and then later she changed it to go to the bathroom.
I believe they were fighting that Saturday, during the draining of the pond. I believe they wanted to get Misty out of reach of LE. I commend all investigative reporters trying to get the truth has to what happened to Haleigh. Who is to say their source was not telling the truth. Time will tell all. Right now I do not believe LE believes it was Misty that is responsible for Haleighs disappearance, but she holds the info. They are looking for the big fish and she as possibly an accomplis. Ron has been just as inconsistent as Misty we just do not hear about his as much. He is no longer considered a suspect because he has a strong alibi. Strong alibis have been broken before.
I still believe Ron knows what happened to his daughter and Misty is covering for him and that is why his family is covering for her. If the knowledge is only held among a couple of people and they never told a soul, then questioning all of these others would not make them feel threatened. They will just continue to keep their mouths shut.
Thank you Art Harris, Cobra, TJ Hart and Simon. May God Bless you all.
Is there any family related to these people in Jacksonville, FL?
The case has spawned so many experts that it just boggles one’s mind that there is crime anywhere will all of us experts floating around. I even know of one expert that has her finger on the pulse of this case so much that she demands to be heard. She lives in Montana, yet knows it all. Let’s face it, what drives all this is speculation. So here’s my speculation. I know Cobra will understand it. Hopefully some of you will also.
The reason I say Cobra will understand it is because like myself he has seen it so many times. I’ve seen lives and futures ruined because of “the call”. For lack of a better term let’s call it “The call of the wild”.
By now most of us have seen the myspaces and facebooks of Misty and her friends. Those are something that just shouldn’t be ignored. These facebooks portray wannabe “gangstas”. Take any of them and drop them off on Crenshaw in South Central LA and they’d be crying in less than an hour. They post on their facebooks guns, drugs, cards, and all the things wannabe playas like. So don’t be lured into think that these are innocent 17 year olds that are slightly misguided. They may be stupid on one hand, but on the other they have street smarts. They also have thoughts that are cold and calculating. Thoughts that are disturbing to the general population. Then they make the mistake, they answer that “Call of the wild”.
The “call of the wild” went like this the night HaLeigh went missing:
caller: Misty..there’s a party tonight at so and so’s. So and so is going to be there and he’s going to be holding.
Misty: Ohh wow. I can’t go, I have to watch the kids tonight.
caller: bring them with you, they can fall asleep in the bedroom.
Misty: I can’t, but I’m tired of not being able to go party because I have to watch someone else’s kids.
caller: Yea you can, I’ll help you. We’ll pick you up at the corner so no knows you went out.
Misty: Ok but I have to be home before Ron is. I’ll turn my phone off and he’ll think I’m sleeping. Meet you in ten minutes at the corner.
And so it goes, “the call of the wild” had been answered. They got to the party, started to party, and things went bad. HaLeigh wasn’t just asleep as the thought she was. Panic set in. They did what they thought they had to do.
Misty then had them drop her off in the neighborhood next door. That way none of her neighbor’s could hear the loud vehicle dropping her off at approximately 1:30AM. She went over the fence, someone went with her and helped carry JR.. Twenty minutes or so went by and the loud vehicle left and raced off east down Buffalo Bluff RD. Misty then waited for Ron to come home…..
Like I said, it’s all speculation, but that loud vehicle was heard and it didn’t go in the neighborhood next to HaLeigh’s that night due to coincidence…..
Not everyone grew up in a peapod, some of us have been around the block, twice.
“Chrissy said,
In October 1st, 2009 at 12:58 am FUWTMF – I’m with you. I’m all but convinced that it’s an SO. I consider myself a regular-normal person and I nowhere near had the composure that Misty has shown when I was 17. Are you kidding, I would have demonstrated anger to hysterics and everything in between. She’s not the brightest person and she’s even made some poor judgments in life, but I don’t think she hurt that child. That’s why no one is coming forward because the police are squeezing the wrong group of people. Maybe if the reward were higher (I thought it was only at $30k) then maybe the Marty guy would come forward. Didn’t someone even say that they saw a man in a boat that night? Maybe I’ve mixed that up with another case. Good night – bed time for me.”
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Hi Chrissy, thanks for your response. The first thing I will addressis that NG sd the reward was 70k. SHe sd it last wk. I should have known better than to assume she was accurate as I had been under the impression it was 35k and I know for sure that it is at least 35k so lets go with that. We can chalk it up to another case of poor reporting…
Clearly, they are squeezing the wrong ppl, as if there was a party that Misty had attended, her friends wud have turned her in, in a new york minute. They wud have used it as leveridge to get out of jail (for the handful that have all been arrested sice Feb). As well, it is alleged that Joe Ptyko tried to use a phoney story to LE for a get out of jail free card bak in Jul 09 and looks like his story didnt pan out either nothing was found!!!
Thanks for agreeing that children have been snatched in the middle of the night by perps from right under their guardians noses many times. It is not unheard of.
Looking for justice,
The nebulizer makes me even more convinced it could be either an SO or someone who wanted to make some money by selling her to an SO. It also give me hope that she is still alive.
If she accidentally overdosed at a party or at home, why throw the nebulizer in the pond with the body or busy it with the body? A dead child would not need a nebulizer. It would just be extra, cumbersome baggage.
It also gives me hope that this is all a big scam for ron to make some money (like he saw the Ants do) and maybe haleigh is currently living with a distant relative or friend in another state.
should have said why bury a nebulizer with the body.
pak31 said
In October 1st, 2009 at 7:49 am That’s great that they aren’t angry/fighting/living apart BUT if Misty would have been honest from the get go, none of us would be discussing this right now. I agree that the media is wrong if they report things that are false on purpose. I agree that Jr. needs to keep being a kid and getting away on a trip is great for that. But again, this dragging on seems to be Misty’s fault. The false reports do bother me but Misty bothers me more because she is the key to this whole case but she won’t end the circus.
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Hi Pak,
Just wondering, if you can concur that the media has given false reports, then what makes you think that Misy is lying? The only interviews she has ever done right from the start, tell us the same thing.
It is plausible that this young uneducated girl, cud have easily referred to their ” sleeping arrangements” by saying they were all in the same bed together….. a tot mattress that was 30 inches away on the floor, that was the very same height as the mattress she was on, cud be articulated by some as ” sleeping in the same bed” to emphasize a point….This was the first thing that the media tore her apart for and then went to town onit… It was the media who started accusing her of lying and it is understandable that a 17 yr old who sees the world is starting to point at her for such a terible crime, cub be nothing less than shaking in her boots and sick that anyone cud think she cud hurt a little girl that she loved. We have to incorporate logic, and understanding the quals of a young 17 yr old who is not educated as to how she may articulate events.
Does she appear to be strong enough to outsmart LE and the FBI?? Thats really giving her too much credit. You have to consider her as a person historically before this event. There is not one bad thing sd against her nature as a person. That has to count!!!!
Also, I think LE is interested into talking to Lisa Croslin for many reasons and Misty doesnt seem to be one of them.
It was 2 days after Tommys revelation that he was at the crime scene where Lisa backed him up, which means THEY BOTH lIED to LE 7 months later…. This is huge in any type of investigation. Now we have a liar and someone who has placed himself at the crime scene…
I think getting Lisa off the drugs and talking to her is more to find out what Tommy did that night…Done forget, Lisa only became inconsisteant with her feelings about Misty a wk before Tommy wnet to jail..Why??? Is she protecting him from something????? Another inconsistency from someone other than Misty…
If she knew anything she wud have tried for that money months ago!!!
If there had been accident that night, there is no way this young girl cud have disposed of Haleigh by herslf. There wud be no point. She isnt a sociopath and wud not have been able to live with herself, for this long.
Anyone in LE and her lawyer surely has told her that if it was accident she cud come clean and she wudnt even get much jail time, if any…
Rons alibi is locked tight. There is no way, he was acting when Misty called LE… No way he cud have put on that act. His alibi is secured with fingerprints of entering his worl, and leaving it… It is sealed. He had nothing to do with it.
Cobra went to South Central LA. Now there’s no more gangs!!
Hi, Armando (10:26 a.m.)!
Please send Cobra to TX to clean up the gangs in our state! Thanking you in advance~~~~~~
“Armando said,
in October 1st, 2009 at 10:26 am
Cobra went to South Central LA. Now there’s no more gangs!!”
I find that quite humorous Armando. To be honest though, I would find it even more entertaining if I could be there if you said it to him in person. Considering all the good days Cobra has been having lately I’m sure he’d appreciate your humor.
To Armando (8:18 a.m.):
Satsuma must be really bad if it is worst than Iraq! Glad I don’t live there!
Why will the clans fight among themselves but not say what happened to Haleigh? The clans as in Croslin, Cummings, jailbirds that go thru the revolving door at the Putnam County Jail, the Sex Offenders (SO), drug dealers, prostitutes, etc.
I would think someone would snitch for the reward money (is it $35,000 or $70,000 or none of the aforementioned?)!
I dont care what the media or rumors say. Who cares if they had a fight or whatever. The fact is if your child is missing, do you go on vacation a few weeks after the fact?
If there had been accident that night, there is no way this young girl cud have disposed of Haleigh by herslf. There wud be no point. She isnt a sociopath and wud not have been able to live with herself, for this long.
Anyone in LE and her lawyer surely has told her that if it was accident she cud come clean and she wudnt even get much jail time, if any…
Furthermore,
I am wondering why I had to use a different computer, to enter these somments. I am getting a message that says I have written a duplicate post, and couldnt enter my comments?
Is it possible that the only comments this blog accepts are for Misty haters?
I would hope that a professional blog who is honestly seeking the truth, and not using Haleigh’s tragedy as a way to get members, would want to look at this from every angle. I know I have been professional and respectful and I sincerely hope this site is all about helping, not hindering.
Rons alibi is locked tight. There is no way, he was acting when Misty called LE… No way he cud have put on that act. His alibi is secured with fingerprints of entering his worl, and leaving it… It is sealed. He had nothing to do with it.
What is all this talk about the devil and then telling folks how to pray Armando?
What you said seemed rather harsh imvho.
Either you subscribe or you don’t, either you believe or you don’t. Many folks believe that prayer is a personal issue. I am one of them but I am not God and I have no right to tell folks how to practice their own religion and neither do you.
Praying in public is not new age hype for some and neither is putting a prayer in print. Some folks dance and sing when they pray and others come right out and ask for prayers. Some offer prayers because they do believe and they are praying for divine help.
As diverse as the practice of religion itself might be, imvho there is only one Creator.
IMO We are all God’s Children. Thing is and maybe this is just my thoughts but some people live each day as humans who are trying to be spiritual when in fact we are spiritual beings trying to be human. We are all an extention of our Creator and not just on Sunday.
This case has affected many people. There is a missing little girl out there somewhere and sadly, she is not the only one.
There were others such as Jaycee Dugard who have been found and I for one believe that the heartfelt prayers of many is what has brought her home.
Obviously this is not a website about religion but there are many people who read and post here that are Religious/Spiritual and not just on Sunday.
Today I ask that people pray that our Creator has a divine hand upon the families and upon the individuals of LE who have been looking for this Child and all missing persons/Children and that strength and guidance be given to them so that they can and will find them all.
Aho and AMEN.
Texasgoldengirl, A sex offender would have no reason to take the nebulizer. Their intentions are immoral right from the start. Their objective is to get in and out as fast as they can without getting caught. There is still a good chance that Haleigh is alive and could still be using it or there is also the possibility whatever she ingested came from the nebulizer. That is why you dispose of the nebulizer. The chance Ron has Haleigh hidden for finanacial gain is also a motive and he would no longer be in trouble for the contempt of truancy. Who knows perhaps it is buried with her body. I am hoping for a better out come.
I need to make a correction, and apology..There must be a delay in the posting as I was getting a duplicate post message because the comment did in fact post but must not have updated on my screen…that message because my comments did post….
I aske that the writer please accept my apology and I m very glad you allow 2 sides of this tragedy to be looked into too.
I find it ironic that you talk about respect yet in the same breath say Junior will grow up being dysfunctional. You may not like the people in this case, but you sure don’t post like the respected journalist you are trying to be, another wannabe blogger trying to get attention.
I believe where they are coming up with the reward being 70,000 is the 35,000 a friend of Tim Miller put up when Hank sr. left a voice mail stating he and two witnesses said Ron said if he had 35,000 he could Haleigh back. I believe it was put in a special account for the return of Haleigh. The two rewards combined would be 70,000. This will go back to 35,000 if he should take back his money.
Dom Pfefferkorn, You are absolutely right. Whether Ron and Misty had a fight is a moot point. Every waking moment Ron and Misty has should be spent and dedicated to finding HaLeigh, not going on vacations to relieve stress. I’d like to have a dollar for every family that is out there that has endured stress for years but due to obligations has not been able to take a vacation.
Are you serious? said,
in September 30th, 2009 at 3:52 pm
Ron and Misty are VICTIMS? Are you smoking crack?
Funny that you of all people berate and put down other sites when all along your ’sources’ have been TJ and Art Harris! LOL! Now, that is the biggest joke of all.
Those 2 wouldn’t know a story or real facts if they were hit in the face with them.
Haleigh Cummings is the only victim here.
I agree that Haleigh is most definitely the biggest victi, hoowever how can you not see that Haleighs family arent victim’s? Do you think that they will ever get passed this? This is the beginning of the end for them…
As far as Misty taking a “vacation” im not sure that she wud ever have the mindset to enjoy herself or find real meaning in life.
Look at the hate towards her, and the fact that she hasnt been able to grieve for Haleigh, as she is too busy having to defend herself and take polys (showing she has been cooperative from day one)
How can anyone think that getting away from this tragedy, cud be fun?
She is 17 yrs old and hated for no apparent reason. She isnt the first victim where the media and LE have pressured the wrong person. As far as her going into LE to talk, how many more times can she say that she has told everything? LE hasnt released her taped interrogations, but they must be consistent or she wud have been arrested by now. Has anyone considered that?
The reasons that ppl are blaming her is because we need to make someone accountable and clearly she is an easy target. Has anyone considered that the person who is responsible is prolly laughing????
I want to think that none of the family members had anything to do with Haleigh’s disappearance but the fact of the matter is Misty has told many different stories about what happened that night. There is no way around it. She with all her senses was there. She should be able to tell exactly what had happened and with great unchanging detail. That is not what has happened and it is to be expected that she will be looked at. Denying the facts does not do anything but bring even more suspicion.
jmo
Everyone must understand,in the beginning police & the public were giving the players in this situation,the benefit of the doubt,i mean after all a child missing,who’s heart wouldn’t go out to them,here lie in the problem.Everyone says there’s no way a 17yr.old could hide the truth for 6 months or so,bull-hockey,lone criminals carry their crimes around for years and sometimes to the grave,thus no witnesses and especially when going to prison may be an untimely inconvienance for a quicky trip to disney land.To entertain the mere thought that a perv would case house,leave lights on,leave door opened with cinder block,risk being possibly shot,killed or identified when he or she could just case out the nearest elementary school and pick and choose as many as wanted is very far fetched.All under the nose of misty whilst washing pee blankets.The only reason they aren’t on deathrow right now is because no body has been found,thus no prosecutorial evidence is available(sav for heresay and jailhouse stoolies).
Everyone must understand,in the beginning police & the public were giving the players in this situation,the benefit of the doubt,i mean after all a child missing,who’s heart wouldn’t go out to them,here lie in the problem.Everyone says there’s no way a 17yr.old could hide the truth for 6 months or so,bull-hockey,lone criminals carry their crimes around for years and sometimes to the grave,thus no witnesses and especially when going to prison may be an untimely inconvienance for a quicky trip to disney land.To entertain the mere thought that a perv would case house,leave lights on,leave door opened with cinder block,risk being possibly shot,killed or identified when he or she could just case out the nearest elementary school and pick and choose as many as wanted is very far fetched.All under the nose of misty whilst washing pee blankets.The only reason they aren’t on deathrow right now is because no body has been found,thus no prosecutorial evidence is available(sav for heresay and jailhouse stoolies).
First I’ve heard about the nebulizer – very interesting. I can see Tommy taking the nebulizer (or even an SO that was told that Haleigh needed). I can see Lisa not caving in for the money at her sons expense but she’d do it in a ny minute on someone else. I’ve noticed that some moms favor the son over the daughter and would bend even more to protect a son. Maybe she favors him because he’s the blacksheep or the misunderstood one, or it could be that she’s simply afraid of him.
I really don’t think Misty is smart enough to outsmart LE or FBI. I think she lacks the ability to articulate and explain away innocent mixups spoken about earlier, but it’s not purposeful lying. Yes, I’m sure she’s extremely street smart but she’s no monster like Casey Anthony. My guess is that this Cobra man knows these people VERY VERY well and knows whose capable of what. It’s probably like a 6th sense has developed after working with people for so long. What exactly is his theory?
If she knew in her gut that Cuz Joe or Tommy was CAPABLE of this crime, would that be enough to fail a poly? Example, if they ask her “do you know what happened to Haleigh” and if she strongly feels that family did something and she answers “no” to the question, then that would show as a lie, right? I mean, she can’t answer Yes, because she doesn’t really know.
Maybe one of these fellows was in the loud truck, and entered house while she was sleeping. Wasn’t one of them there earlier in the day? Maybe the importance of the nebulizer was mentioned casually to him. Maybe they somehow got a copy of the key.
Garrido might have taken the nebulizer if he intended on keeping the child for a long period of time, or if he planned on trading.
Excellent point about the nebulizer being evidence (ingested too much meds?) and they may have had to throw away.
nostradamus jr.
Just curious, can you list 3 of Misty’s statements that trouble you the most? What is it specifically that you are saying that she gave conflicting stories about?
As soon as it was reported that Misty had gone somewhere without Ron, everyone was up in arms. How could she go anywhere without Ron? How can she leave before this is all settled and Haleigh is found?
Well, I was surprised that she spent every single second with Ron since this happened. I think that if you look at this from the perspective that this person has endured 7 months of interviews, ldt’s, hypnosis and whatever else. Not to mention her and Ron’s every move scrutinized by media and bloggers, they can’t even say a normal goodbye outside their house without it being plastered all over the place. I think ‘Miss Nancy’ should have to retract her story she has been running with this week that Misty was ‘AWOL’. If that were really the case, le would have surely issued a warrant or public announcement for help in finding her. Nancy’s reaction is very telling of how she feels entitled, as media, to be privy to all that these people do and she was mad that she wasn’t told where Misty was. And despite everyone telling her, she kept at the story anyway.
I personally feel that le interviewed Misty and took the position that she is hiding something, and that that something must be the key to the whole case. I think this tunnel vision may have let alot of other obvious investigative directions go cold. Of course, this is speculation as we do not know what le knows. I feel like the initial dog scent trail through the woods and the seemingly outrageous amount of SO’s in her area should be where this investigation is focused.
Or on Tommy. Hello!!! He placed himself at the crime scene 7 months after the fact. His own sister has stated that he has been different since this happened. How come media is not parked outside Tommy’s house and watching his every move.
Also, does anyone have the link to the video where Misty talks about the 4 people in her dream that night? The one I saw doesn’t have that. And in those videos, to me she seemed like a girl who is scared shitless that after 6 or 7 months, they are still trying to pin this on her.
Another note about the ldt, is it normal for the person to conducting the test to tell you that it is showing you as being dishonest while the test is in progress? I thought they were supposed to NOT taint the person’s reactions. I would think that the entire test would be violated from that point on.
So, so we really think this silly 17 year old is the criminal mastermind that some of you seem convinced she is? Really….
Simon, another great story keep up the good work. I want to see Haliegh returned, but the longer this case drags on I have my doubts.
Stop the abuse and murder of the children in the U.S.
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Nancy Grace: Misty Cummings Back in Satsuma; Tips Flop!
http://www.artharris.com/2009/10/01/nancy-grace-mi
Tuff
sorry you did not get my Devil joke. It went
“the devil did not scare the hell out off Cobra. Cobra scared the devil out off hell”. Lol …it’s a joke. Laugh a little it might help.
The jokes I’ve made has been for Cobra, my friend to laugh a bit… Concidering all the BS he’s been through. Some got it, you didn’t …I guess!
…and there is nothing wrong with praying you’re right. But it was midnight and the prayer comment went on and on and on. To a computer. She prayed on BNN…Simon must feel like God. Lol
sorry but that’s my humor!
One last thought. “Cobra can survive hunting with Dick Cheney” LOL
Thank you for the clarification and follow up comment Armando. I do realize that everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
“Cobra can survive hunting with Dick Cheney”
LOL.
Looking for justice. I’ve never heard of anyone using a nebulizer to do drugs with. I think people snort drugs, shoot them up, smoke drugs in a pipe, but I’ve never heard of anyone overdosing using a nebulizer so I assume you mean accidentally put too much of the medicine nebulizer is supposed to be used for in it and accidentally over dose Haleigh. I think that is unlikely though.
I have no problem believing a SO would take ood care of his investment. It’s a risk every time they have to kidnap another child or purchase one or expose themselves to one or rape one. Better to keep the one they have alive as long as possible hidden away for the times when they need to get their jollies.
The Jaycee duggard thing makes me wonder how many poor children who have dissappeared are alive and being cared for so that they can be continually used by sex offenders.
Elizabeth Smart just testified in her perps competency trial. He needed to keep her alive so he could rape her three times a day. There is no way he could have gotten his jollies by going out and risking raping that many young girls…without getting caught.
That Shawn kid that was kept alive for years by the assistant manager of that pizza place.
Hey, all three of those were assumed to be dead, but they weren’t dead. They were all three living in a hellish environment that they should not have had to endure.
I don’t understand why the police don’t just go into the houses of every single registered sex offender (as Cobra said…people who mess with children) and really search their houses and properties.
SOMEBODY TELL ME WHAT’S SO ILLOGICAL ABOUT THAT APPROACH?
Look at who took Jessica lundsford right out of her little bed at night..some creep that lived within spitting distance of her house.
It should be standard procedure to search registered sex offenders in the area’s house and property THOROUGHLY.
Ok – The real story is that Misty Knew what happened AND SO DOES RON AND HIS MOM!
Why In the world would Rons Mom let Misty stay with her if she thought she had something to do with it UNLESS she is protecting her son? DOESNT THAT MAKE SENSE? I mean come on- we know Misty was lieng. Why in the world would Ron be with her? He is involved AND I might add WHY ISN’T RON LOOKING FOR HIS DAUGHTER UNLESS HE ALREADY KNOWS WHAT HAPPENED TO HER- If he does thats sick! but look at all of them the way they lived- they all Lie. Does anyone know Rons polygraph report results? I dont think so.
People said the same thing about Carl Probyn and his wife. There is still to this day a comment out on the internet (left over) that they had connections with law enforcement and would never be taken to task for selling their child into prostition in another country.
I admit that Ron and Misty should be suspects. I even think Theresa and Ron’s grandma should be suspects. But they shouldn’t be the ONLY suspects and even if they are responsible…did they give or sell the kid for a drug debt…and is the child somewhere where she needs to be rescued?
Kristie, I think someone said Ron was pretty much cleared.
There’s no way in hell T. Neves is lying. She is so sick with grief and not knowing what happened to her granddaughter that she’s a basket case. She loves her son and she’s probably assuming that he knows what he’s doing and that if he believes Misty then she does too.
Ron is only human and has probably had his bouts with doubt but I don’t think he’d be married to someone that hurt his child.
Am I missing something? What specifically has Neves lied about?
We don’t even know if Ron said the “keep your enemies closer” thing or not. We don’t know for a fact that he called Tommy to go by the house that night.
All I have to say is you’re crazy if you think Neves is faking that heartbreak from the unknown (no, it’s not heartbreak because she did it).
Just my opinion of course, so no haters please.
Chrissy,
Shovel? That’ sound suspicious. Good question. What date DID he steal a shovel? This guy is sounding more and more like a good suspect to me.
http://www.wesh.com/news/21174079/detail.html
Lord, that Misty’s mother. The check forger. Misty never had a chance.
Texasgg – any new info? Watching NG now but I’m sure it was taped earlier today and may not have anything new to add.
Before we make too much of the shovel report we need to verify it. A shovel was only named on that one article. I think it is a mistake & should have said the gun.
My take on why the “party goers” or people who may have info have not come forward?
They know they will be cut off from thier drug supliers if they Narc/Rat/tell ANYTHING!
Imagine a crackhead/methhead/pillhead needing a fix desperately and can’t “hook-up” because they had told LE something about someone. That IS the way it works within the druggie lifestyle. Any info forwarded to LE will get your @ss kicked (literally) AND you will be cut off from EVERY source your dealer may know. That could be every dealer in or near Satsuma.
So what do you think now? You still think that they would turn in info considering:
1: They MIGHT get charged themselves; before or after the fact
2: They MIGHT get brutally beaten
3: They WILL get cut off from the ONLY thing they live for and love, thier drug of choice
There is a code among these people and they are against ANYONE who willingly or unwillingly works with police.
It’s just a lot to swallow to believe that no one at the party mentioned anything to a friend or relative over all these months. That friend or relative wouldn’t give a damn about whether the partier got future drugs, beaten or locked up just as long as they received the reward money. We’re not talking about Scarface type people here. They’re regular people. They run there mouths, and they make mistakes – that’s why they all seem to have arrest records. They’ve all made mistakes and sometimes more than once.
Hi Chrissy ~ I think MS Neves is sincere- I get aggrevated because she never answers the questions exactly. I heard- dont know if it is true but she stated Misty was about to crack. (Maybe thats why i thought about her knowing somethin we dont know. Now that I understand Misty was on a 3 day drug bendge- that would make sense if she did not remember everything (like her brother comin over) and I think Ron did not know what happened and is innocent BUT after the fact knows something now. ONE BIG question I have is Why in the World would Ron ask Tommy to come by if Misty accused him of doing things to her when she was youner? All of this does not make sense of course – it is strange that Mistys cousin Joe was there- I hear alot of drug use was invloved in the last 3 days before she dissapeared And that Misty was sexually involved with someone else that was verified by police.
Ok not stickin up for misty but when i was 17 i did alot of drugs and slept with people although i was raised better than that and had education but even stoned i knew i couldn take care of a child much less two of them she has to have low low self esteem to want to settle down and get married and raise some one else kids 2nd about the shovel y the hell is this just now comin about prob some more bs to throw up off track and get up blogin bout more theory i give up on tryin to figure out what the hell happened there is to many chiefs not enough indians in this case its bs all the mis leading info
Hi Hollysmom…
“HollysGmom said in October 1st, 2009 at 7:58 pm
My take on why the “party goers” or people who may have info have not come forward?
They know they will be cut off from thier drug supliers if they Narc/Rat/tell ANYTHING!
Imagine a crackhead/methhead/pillhead needing a fix desperately and can’t “hook-up” because they had told LE something about something….”
Respectfully, I think you are giving “addicts” and broke teenagers too much credit. How many teenagers (especially in this group and enveirnoment)think about next week, or even tomorrow..its all about the next fix and 35k (or 70k) wud be probably as far as their thoughts wud take them in facilitating the next fix. Im sure they wud look at that amount of money as a fortune and wud not need to worry about dealers… Dealers have profits too make, and cant see them not doing “business” with a ” tipster” .
It is not plausible to think that so many ppl wud have known that Misty was out, and wud not have come forward yet…its just dumb too try and find excuses as to why someone wudnt have come forward. We have seen that this groupp of ppl, is not afraid to throw a friend or family member under the bus.
A good example is someone like Joe Pytko, who clearly has drug problems and wasnt afraid to “snitch”! His, is an example where if it is really true that he made these statements to the police, not only is he not afraid, to be a snitch, it is indicative that ppl will even grasp at strws to “create” what they think may have happened and hope their lie will lead police to where Haleigh is, so that they can reap the benefit of the reward, and also gain leveridge for their separate charges at why they were in jail to begin with…..in essence the example of Joe and Tommy and even Lisa Croslin blow your theory!
You are forgetting that the people you have mentioned: Tommy, Lisa, Joe, ect have not gone willingly to the LE! They have been caught on some other charge and are only “talking” to make themselves a better deal. I’m refering to citizens who may have eyewitness accounts of where Misty was that night, but they aren’t going to talk unless it buys them some slack, at some point. They will not willingly go with info because the first thing LE is going to do is check them out on all fronts. Right? Isn’t that what happened to Tommy when he admitted to being at the trailer checking on Misty? Now he is PRIME SUSPECT. That’s not a huge encouragement towards offering up info. Every body following the case suddenly knows everything about you, your relationships/problems, your family history and relatives too, your house being broadcast on the news, your children being hounded by the media, Personally, $35,000 is not enough to relocate and they would NEED to once it came out who they were.
Also those ALREADY in jail no longer need to worry about thier “fixes” everybody knows it’s easier to get drugs in jail, LOL!
Hi HooyG..
Thanks for your reply. I am under the impression that you are open to discussing this subject.
So, respectfully, I can tell you that any addict doesnt apply common sense to any situation. An addict, whether it be ppl who are in Mistys circel, or not, if they are addicts, they are only worried about their next fix. Not the dealers and not relocating. You and I wud logically now that 35k wont get anyone very far, but to an addict, that wud be a jackpot. Also, I do agree that Tommy shoud be considered the prome suspect and you seem to agree. We are of the minority on that one even though it should appear that he is deserving of this title. I was very saddened to see that his revelation of placing himself at the crime scene was used by the media, witrh a spin onit. His staement was used in the media to actually deflect the contents of his statement, and slam Misty. We know that the headlines about his statement in HUGE writing was how someone confirmed Misty has been lying all along. The biggest outcome should have been that we have a known criminal, liar and potential S.O, placing himself at the scene. It was totally missed.
Furthermore, as far as ppl getting arrested and using anything againts Misty is clearly, more lies from the arrested person who is resorting to try and offer up lies to LE to get themselves out of hot water, and maybe hope that their suggestion of what happened will lead them to Haleigh. We know many many ppl have huches and they are being acted on. We see it weekly where ppl are driopping off tips and letters are being changed to reflect guilt aggainst Misty, all for sefl serving reasons.
I think a huge problem in this investigation is wannabee detectives trying to lead the investigation but all they are doing is making the waters more muddy then they already are,….. They have been on a hate crusade against Misty and continue to muddy the waters with lies ansd stories that are irelevant to theinvestigation. How can LE do a thorough job, when they are continuously, cheking up on lies ??? The real perp is laughing and getting further away.
It seems p-lausible to think that if anyone did see Misty that night, they wud have already told LE lomg ago… If no one saw her, then, logically, the story she has been telling from the get go, has to start holding some water. PPl are so hellbent on her guilt, that the issue at hand is getting lost. I resent the media for making a Miaty fest, which is only deflecting the truth. Many of agree that this young naive girl who is uneducated, cud not fool LE and the FBI for this long. She does not have the wherewithall to do that. Her story has stayed the same, and even if you want to think that she is smart enough to fool LE, where is the evidence that something happened to haleigh at Mistysd hands.. we must all agree that she has likley never murdered someone or hid a DEAD body,… If she was cunning enough to fool LE and the fbi with the events that happened..wud one agree that she wud actually have th4e capacity and skill to have an evidence free murder along with disposing of human remains??? Even KC wasnt that smart and you have to admit that KC has lots motre intelligece and malice than Misty…
I think if asomething happened where ZMisty was concerende it wud have been out of the bag by now. We have to remwember that she has had hours and housrs and hours of interrogation by the best… Lets look at this thing a little bit more reationaly and logically.. It is very unlikely that Misty had anything to do with this crime.
I wonder why LE is so set on her being a liar – unless that just what they want us to think. Maybe???
Suppose Tommy went to check on them, saw Misty & Jr sleeping and Haleigh watching TV. Haleigh would have opened the door for him. He could have taken her then.
Misty would be telling the truth about being home, and Tommy telling the truth about going there.
Hi Butch
I agree- Misty was at the end of a 3 day drug bendge- Tommy was there- wouldnt put it past him to take her. what was Tommys alibi the whole night? who had the oxycontin they were dissucing, and did they check it for prints?
INTERESTING
http://mistycroslin.com/2009/04/07/misty-croslin-photo-with-brandon/
JOE USED A BRICK TO HOLD DOOR IN HIS PREVIOS BREAKINS?
Tommy Croslin.
Yes, I heard that about Joe, and another unfortunate ploy that LE have to use, is that it is not unheard of to let the general public believe that LE think so and so comitted the crime so that all eyes are on the wrong person to let the perp become complacent and slip up…. It has happened in a million different crimes… Its sad as they end up using someone to try and get to the truth.. I suspect Misty is this person…
Also, I just want to say that it is alleged that Misty came home Sunday Morning from this alleged drug weekend which wud mean that although she may still have been tired on Monday… it wud have been like approx 36 -40 hrs later after the binge that she wud have been home.. i also get the impression that this lifestyle is a way of life and these ppl can somehowtolerate the effects.
I do think LE wud have known if she was strung out when they got there at 3:24am ..they are trained for that and if they didnt know, Ron wud have and judging from his reaction to the news he wud have not help bak anything!!
I have a hard time understanding why no one is questioning TN regarding the fact that she was at the MH just a few minutes after the 911 call. To travel 10-15 miles in 5 minutes is pretty quick. Supposedly the MH where she said she lived off Rita Lane was empty and she had been staying with her b/f 70 miles away. Which is it?
Hi Nunzio,
TN came to the crime scene to bring Haleigh’s pic not long after LE got there. She was interviewed by LE.
Im sure her alibi was cheked out and locked in… there wud be absolutley no motive, and clearly this woman loves Haleigh beyond words. She has been very consistent in all she says… She stands by Ron and Misty, and is heart broken.
Fed Up,
I too have serious doubts of Misty being the ACTUAL person to commit the crime against HaLeigh…although her stories don’t “wash” with me. Just wondering why Grandama TN would need to bring HaLeigh’s photo to the home when that’s the crime scence.. besides weren’t there photos in the home ? That just doesn’t make sense to me!!! Thanks
Hi Cent,
Im not sure why her story doesnt wash with you, and many ppl. Misty has not changed her story from day one. LE have even sd that. The media have written many sloppy articles where they have mistakenly changed the story because of re writing something they read…. Children have een snatched from underneath parenst nose before. It isnt the first time this kind of crime has been committed. If you watch, and listen to Misty, she is consistent and is no liar. I believe she wud have come forward by now and told LE anything that she cud, in order to bring home Haleigh. She is very young and had had a terrible upbringing. She lacks in articulation, as well as general knowledge. We have all kinds of wanna be detectives, tamppering and hindering this investigation. LE have a hard enough crime to solve as it is, and all the extra help, is causing fake letters to be released to the media, ppl bringing in tips of where they think Haleighs remains are, on hunches, and the left hand doesnt know what the right hand is doing. Now we have TM involved in wannabe status, paying ppl to go play the undercover cop… all of this hurts Misty and doesnt help in the investigation. This is pure interference, and hopefully LE will start laying charges for ppl messing with this case and making a mokery out of it. The smowball effect started reraly on in this case al becasue Misty had said they were all in the same bed. It is so plausible that she wud articulate it that way… She used poor detailing skills because she doesnt have any. I believe that poor Haleigh was snatched by a ped and we know Tommy has placed himself at the scene.. I doubt Misty wud protect him if she knew anything for sure.. She told LE right from the start that it may have been him… He had no reason to feell like he had to protect her right from the start when she made those allegations..So why now, does he have the priviledge of being believed??? Its worrisome to say the least that he was there that night.
As far a TN having photos, it was very possible that when she came as soon as she found out, that she may have had a recent photo in her purse and Ron may have been to distraught to find one..
Also they may have had her name stamped on them as she may have been the one that signed the picture form, and paid for them..Just a thought….
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