We have rendered DVD 2 and are in the process of uploading the files. This will take up a few minutes, but we wanted to bring the files to you as quickly as possible.
Once again these are conversations between Misty Croslin and her father Hank Croslin. This DVD is sight unseen, I have not had an opportunity to even watch the videos. We are running at full speed to get this information out there. To give you an idea of what we are doing, Jan and I have three computers dedicated to the process, and another person is helping us, and they have at least one computer tied up on the project.
There will be a steady stream of tapes appearing today, so keep checking back with us. Also, please remember to tune in this afternoon at 3pm central. Point your browser to www.blogtalkradio.com a few minutes before we go on air, the link will be on the front page, or you can find the live program here.
Misty & Hank Part2
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I found this transcript on cnn look what it said..
WILLIAM “COBRA” STOUBS, BOUNTY HUNTER: Ron was convinced now, beyond any question of doubt, that she was not there. She wasn`t home, bro. She was out (EXPLETIVE DELETED) very possibly with (EXPLETIVE DELETED) again.
If ron said without a doubt misty was not home and jr said he saw man with squeky shoes and the couch was bouncin? ron told tommy to check on misty around 10. wonder if tommy did somethin to haleigh?
it really makes alot of sence that misty left and left the back door unlocked (she would never want ron to know she wasnt there and left kids alone) then tommy went to trailer- joe may have known misty wasnt there tried to steal rons gun?
does anyone know what joe with tommy that night?
timmy and chelsea know cuz joe stayed with them.
tommys dirty dont want anyone specially wife to know what he did. maybe he convinced joe to help him hide the body?
Where is everyone ? Church maybe ?
These Tapes are pretty good.
Is #2 missing or I’m not seeing it?
Thanks Simon and Jan for getting these online for us! 🙂
Kristie,
I think Tommy is so afraid of loosing his wife and kids, I think he’d do anything even lie to get out. Sad why people can’t see how their loosing all site to what is happening.
Kristie,
I heard on a tape Cobra saying Misty was home he said Misty was asleep 3 or 4 ft.
2 is right there with 1,3,and 4.
Cricket, on my screen #2 is not a link.
Is this girl that had letters from Misty using F bomb. her best friend whoever she is seems like she has a voice of reason.
Lflorida,
I don’t understand why your not seeing 2.
Try going out and coming back in.
Lflorida,
I just went up to 2 and clicked on it but it’s not playing for some for reason.
It played yesterday.
Cricket:
#2 is not a link for me either. I don’t know how can say it played yesterday when they were just put up today.
???
LFlorida said,
in May 23rd, 2010 at 12:04 pm
Cricket, on my screen #2 is not a link.
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#2 is not a link for me either.
I’m sad, can’t listen to any of these tapes, my internet is through my phone these are just to big. what are the # after sierra who puts the stuff up on youtube?
Shay Shay, here is the link
http://www.youtube.com/user/Sierra1947
Part 4 – Misty visit w/Hank and Cher – 1st 13 minutes
My notes
Visit was the day after court appearance, before Easter.
Hank: Shouldn’t have stayed in this town. But then we wouldn’t have g’kids, [nieces, nephews.]
Hank: In about 10 minutes talk to Cher, I gotta pee. My eyeballs are floating. (lol)
Hank: She drove all the way UP here.
Misty’s sending Tommy $20 – $30.
Misty: Ask him why he was smiling at me? Did I look like a duck?
HanK: I heard you were in good spirits @ the courthouse.
Misty: Yeah, I cried when I saw him. He looks real good though.
Hank: Got himself clean, he’ll never mess w/that stuff again. Hope both of you learned your lessons.
Misty: I’m prepared. I am prepared.
Hank: I’m not. I don’t want you to go nowhere.
Misty: I know I’m gonna do some time.
Hank: Didn’t get no drug dealers off the street; when they find out your innocent of the other stuff, I hope they have nightmares at night.
Misty: Tell him to keep writing
Misty: Tell him to write to Dep. Hancock. (IHNI who that is)
Hank: If they send you to prison, I hope it will be close.
Misty: Lowell, on the other side of Ocala, one about 4 hours away [has better youth program Lowell is like a boot camp.] I want to get an education.
Misty: Tommy only had a year left in school. People said none of your kids would get a diploma.
Hank: Lemme see if I can find Sher/Cher.
Cher: hey girl, what’s up?
Your mama said make sure you tell her I love her.
[Talks about sending Easter card to Misty. Might be a little bit late.]
Cher: You have been in worse $hit storms before, you can make it through this.
Cher: talked to Tom, too, and told him there is at least some worthwhile stuff to do.
Misty: My court date is June 3 @ 9 a.m.
[This was the day after they were in court. Cher’s married to Dustin, I think.]
Misty: Me & Lindz are on bad terms.
Cher: The day we left, Tom got his phone disconnected. Tried to get in touch via myspace. Finally Dustin got in touch w/ (somebody, sorry missed it.)
Cher: I remember I heard you were out of state.
[She must live near a military base. GA or SC?] 2 hrs, 40 minutes away from FL.
Misty: I wish I left Ronald alone.
[This chick is a yankee or hispanic, not sure. Her mom picks not-so-great b/f. Her brother named Jimmy.]
Misty: We made front page. “Cousin pleads in Misty’s case.” St. Augustine paper. It’s only 75 cents.
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Video hangs up @ 13:39.
There’s a tape on the page that comes up before this one that has one tape that sounds like 2.
Tracy
one and two were both out yesterday.!
shayshay said,
in May 23rd, 2010 at 12:22 pm
I’m sad, can’t listen to any of these tapes, my internet is through my phone these are just to big. what are the # after sierra who puts the stuff up on youtube?
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Sierra 1947
shayshay said,
in May 23rd, 2010 at 12:22 pm
I’m sad, can’t listen to any of these tapes, my internet is through my phone these are just to big. what are the # after sierra who puts the stuff up on youtube?
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Sierra1947
Tape 3, Hank: “Gotta pee real bad”, “They oughta castrate him (Bruce, who has 8 kids) while they got him in jail!”
ShayShay — I can’t play it either. Is it because the internet is thru Verizon phone line? Why does that matter?…
Anyhow, it is sierra1947 — I remember it from reading it on here the other day. Good luck.
Cricket we are talking about 2 different things.
Never mind.
Misty #4 – Visit w/Cher (Sher?) cont’d
My notes –
[I must have missed part of the middle of this tape because the last 13 minutes seemed much shorter than the first 13 minutes. My QP doesn’t have the bar thing that allows you to skip forward or back.]
Misty: Yesterday when I was in court, I cried when I seen Ronald.
Misty: I was happy when I seen Mama.
Cher: Don’t let him see you cry.
Misty: [talking about how close she was to Ron in court, cried in a separate room.]
Cher: Tommy said they made him face the wall so he couldn’t see you when you walked in.
Cher: When you finally see each other, you’re probably gonna
Cher: I hadn’t seen Tommy before. I heard he looked sickly. Cher gonna put her foot down,
Cher: We all need to move to California. Tom & Lindz want to move to Mass.
Cher: I’m gonna come up and see Lindz & the kids. Tommy told me he loved me. I miseed you guys.
Misty: Tell my dad I love him.
Cher: I’ll tell everybody you love them. You look good. You’ve always been a pretty girl.
(End, at least on my screwed up computer.)
Simon has 2 articles up one titled DVD 1 DVD 2.
I played the file that messes up in video lan player. it will play through it. Theres just a annoying beep for about 2-3 mins, but can still make out what they say though. Just a tip for you guys if you want to use a different player than quicktime. just google video lan player to download it
Prt 3, 12:24
DEBBIE off of the internet called Hank.
Really?!
Tape 3 [released on BNN 5/23]
My notes, not an exact transcription
Misty: State Atty in Putnam County is the same as over here.
Misty: Donna had court today. Came back talking all kinds of $hit. I said don’t even talk to me.
Hank: Got lucky & got some gas $.
Misty: I have court 1:30, 6/8. I don’t know what’s gonna happen. Robbie wants to talk to y’all.
Misty: He wants to talk to y’all about that thing.
Hank: Sit up.
Hank: Peggy Cone came & saw us yesterday. About WBG. That stuff that supposedly happened was true and they put her body in that pond.
Misty: They are EFFIN’ RETARDED. THAT’S A EFFIN’ LIE. THERE WAS NO PARTY.
Hank: I don’t know Misty. Things are gonna get tougher. Your mom’s gonna be in jail for 90 days.
Misty: Tell Tommy his $ is in his acct.
Hank: Your mom said she’s sorry she hung up on you. She was at the beach, and…
(Man, Hank, rub a little salt in her wounds!)
Misty: Who is that back there? Is there a lady back there?
Hank: There’s a couple of ladies back there.
Misty: Make sure you tell him to make sure his battery is charged. [re: Timmy’s phone]
Misty: Yeah I was gonna call after 6.
Hank: It’s tough on us out here. $ for gas, $ for phones. You’re gonna have to learn to deal with it on your own.
Hank: If you know anything that’s gonna help, you gotta tell. If anybody knows something they got to tell.
Misty: I know, but it’s not me.
Misty: You were here in town… I just got back. They didn’t tell you you had to wait?
Hank: I got here at 2, I waited until 2:45.
Misty: I didn’t know I had court. I was at lunch and they came and got me. I was in the van. Boys in back, I was in front. One boy was from Putnam County.
Misty: He knows JOHN BARTON – the boy in the trailer that has Timmy’s dog.
Hank: Oh yeah. Snitch. I’m not going over to Tony’s house for nothing.
Hank: I knew he would do it for me.
Misty: How’d you get $.
[Are they talking about Tony Padilla?!]
Hank: Friday I get $ for my phone. I got to pay your Mom’s probation. I don’t know what I’m gonna do w/o her for 3 months. Your mom has to straighten out her life, too.
Misty: She doesn’t need to be in jail. Not in Putnam County.
Hank: She’s gettin’ on my nerves. New probation officer, Mr. King.
Misty: Tell her to ask her PO if she can come to my court date?
Hank: I’ll leave a msg.
Misty: April twenty-something.
Hank: I have a hearing on April 29. That guy who run me over, restitution. But he don’t got no $. I’ll get $25, maybe $100 per month. He cost me my [ability to work.]
Hank: I’m sure I’m gonna get 12 months probation.
Misty: I was so nervous in court today. I heard he was mean. [the judge[
Hank: There not mean. Everybody knows if it wasn’t for this Haleigh case you wouldn’t have gotten busted.
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Hank: Something’s got to give about Haleigh. Haleigh got to come home. She’s been gone too long. Her family needs closure and hell we all need closure, too.
Hank: People can think what they want but I loved that little girl just like they did. I thought the world of that little girl.
Misty: Did mom get my letter?
Hank: [no]
Misty: I didn’t get her card either.
Hank: Watch what you say to your nanny & them guys. They’re talking to Art Harris.
Hank: He’s trying to befriend her. He’s already got some bullshit out there about you and Donna. Some lesbian stuff.
Hank: That DEBBIE CALLED AND TOLD ME THAT. Off the internet.
Hank: They don’t need to talk to him no more. They’re just trying to get on Nancy Grace.
Hank: Peggy Cone is investigating that part now. [OOOH!!! TOLD YOU SO!!!]
Misty: I said that $hit at the beginning and they didn’t believe me.
I’m going crazy in this place. I’m in this PC place. [Protective custody.]
Misty: They can put me in work release…. but… I can’t wait til this is over. I don’t want to be here anymore.
Misty: I had a dream last night. All I can think of is Ronald. They took me off my medicine because I broke out w/something. Nobody knows what I feel.
Misty: Donna’s on [general population?]
Hank: People THINK she didn’t have nothing to do with it. You know why you’re in PC.
CathyJo63
i just read about tommy fallin asleep after he dropped his son off at the bustop. when was that? he was arrested for illegal pills- said they were his dads. he took em thats why he passed out.
curious to know when that was?
LFlorida
thank u sooo much for typing all that. i really hate to listen wuld rather read it 🙂
Anyone getting #2 on this page yet?
FYI – I downloaded #3 to iTunes. It works and has the time marker bar thing so you can go forward & backwards easier.
TracyM – not me. Not yet.
Thanks LFlorida. I’ll try back later. I appreciate your answer. 🙂
so sorry, I did it again and copies whole page..sigh
Cricket said,
in May 23rd, 2010 at 11:48 am
Where is everyone ? Church maybe ?
These Tapes are pretty good.
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Have you watched the ones TJ has on their site?
http://www.thesky973.com/pages/7160982.php
Kristle, you’re welcome.
I recommend you read a different person’s notes re: these tapes because we all pick up on different things when we listen.
My post is far from a word-for-word transcription, and I do have a point of view that may color the notes I take.
CathyJo63 said,in May 23rd, 2010 at 1:46 pm Proof of ILLEGAL NARCOTIC drugs in Chloes system,I CARRIED IT HERE SO WE ALL AHVE PROOF~
This was posted on BNN!
In Ms Picasio’s response she says this:
The Department of Children and Families became aware of the allegations of drug use by Crystal. DCF requested a random toxicology test of Crystal Sheffield, during the course of their investigation, as they found it relevant to investigate Crystal’s fitness as a parent. At that time, in June 2009, I learned from DCF that Crystal’s infant daughter, Chloe, not even one (1) year of age, had been born with illegal narcotics in her system due to Crystal’s drug use during her pregnancy. The DCF caseworker had not informed me of this DCF case against my client, and I had no prior knowledge of the case until that time. DCF dismissed the investigation against Ronald Cummings, without explanation.
I felt as if I was only being told relevant information by the family, after a fiasco had occurred. I could not represent a client who was not being honest with me, and was taking illegal drugs. To make matters worse, In April 2009, Crystal admitted to me that she had taken unprescribed pain medication. Further, her mother, Marie Griffis, reported to me that Crystal had stolen her step-father’s pain medication after he had surgery in April 2009. I was extremely concerned over my client’s drug use. Crystal assured me that it was not an addiction, and that it had only taken a few pills due to back pain from an old car accident. In April, 2009, Crystal suffered another seizure, and was taken to the hospital by ambulance. All of these incidents played out loudly in the media. Despite my requests to family and friends to withhold all comments to the media about Crystal’s seizures, they defied my recommendations. As such, I then was forced to issue numerous press statements regarding Crystal’s status.
A vindication? I do not think so. A most telling statement comes from William Cobra Staubs:
Kim Picazio and I had conflicts during the case because she adamantly defended her client. During the course of the case, I personally witnessed Crystal Sheffield take illegal narcotics on several occasions. I attempted to tell Kim that her client was doing drugs. Kim Picazio did not want me releasing this information to the public. I confronted Crystal’s family about her drug use, and they believed she should be put in rehab. I was present at a meeting between Crystal Sheffield and her Father, Marty Sheffield, when her father demanded Crystal go to rehabilitation for drug abuse and addiction. Crystal refused. At that time, Kim Picazio and I were naturally on different “sides” of the case, as she was representing Crystal Sheffield.
You make what you will of these documents, TJ Hart of The Sky 77.3 has them all available here.
Simon Barrett
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No one contaminates me Holly’s I use my own mind,lol
let me find it Kristie,Dakotas gone home now,i have the time,lol brb
Hank Thomas Croslin Senior (Hank) and his son Hank Thomas Croslin Junior (Tommy) had just finished fighting. Hank was on the porch when we arrived. Tommy was inside the house talking to Sergeant Manning. Neither Hank nor Tommy wanted to admit who started the fight.
Hank stated that he and Tommy were wrestling. Hank refused to write a written statement. Hank was uncooperative and would not provide any additional information.
Tommy looked flushed and his eyes were watery. Tommy stated he had thrown a bag of DVD’s to Hank. Tommy stated Hank got mad and hit Tommy in the head. Tommy stated his left eye was swollen where Hank hit him.
Tommy refused to write a written statement. Tommy kept a hostile posture throughout the investigation and was extremely uncooperative. Tommy continued to try instigating verbal altercations with his father, Hank, and his mother, Lisa Carmen Croslin.
Lisa, Kristina Renee Prevatt were present at the house during the disturbance and so was a 17-year-old white female whose name was redacted from the report.
Lisa stated that Tommy had started the fight. Lisa stated that Tommy had thrown a bag of DVD’s at Hank and Hank got upset. Lisa stated Tommy then hit Hank in the head and they started to fight. Lisa refused to write a written statement.
Three of Tommy’s children were also present during the disturbance.
Just days ago, a judge granted Misty Croslin’s request to remove a restraining order against her brother Tommy following a fight between her then-husband Ronald Cummings and him.
Misty Croslin’s brother Tommy was first arrested this past summer on a gun theft charge at which time during his incarceration he told police he checked on the mobile home of Ronald Cummings where his sister was to be watching his children, Haleigh and Ron Jr. the night of Haleigh’s disappearance. It was that time he stated he banged on the door and got no answer stating to police he believed no one was home. This fed into tips received early in the investigation that Misty had left the home sometime during the night while Ronald Cummings was working at PDM in Palatka, FL.
Tommy was released on a reduced bond under the condition he remained in Putnam County.
A few weeks ago, Tommy Croslin was arrested on drug charges after being found passed out in his car with drugs in the front seat near the place where he had dropped of one of his children to get on the school bus.
The fact that Kristina Rene “Nay Nay” Prevatt and the unidentified white 17-year-old female witness to the fight Thursday morning–widely believed to be Misty Croslin–who were both at the scene has raised the eyebrows of many including Private Investigator William “Cobra” Staubs.
Prevatt has a history of jail time in Putnam County on drug charges and assorted misdemeanors and has admitted to Private Investigator Staubs that she introduced Misty Croslin to a man named Greg Page. Prevatt also admitted to Staubs that she served as Misty’s driver during that weekend of sex and drugs with Page days before little Haleigh Cummings was taken from her home while in Misty’s care the night of February 9, 2009.
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Lisa, Kristina Renee Prevatt were present at the house during the disturbance and so was a 17-year-old white female whose name was redacted from the report.
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who was redacted i wonder?
Mine is showing in a tiny window with quicktime… how can I make it bigger?
hey adams,what is?
CathyJo63 said,in May 23rd, 2010 at 2:04 pm Lisa, Kristina Renee Prevatt were present at the house during the disturbance and so was a 17-year-old white female whose name was redacted from the report.
who was redacted i wonder?
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Maybe Nay Nay’s sister, Kelly? Not fer sure, though.
if you mean the dvd files here? they get blurry when theyre bigger,lol mine do!
TY Susan,was just curious,i thought we knew everybody by now,lol shewwwww
how’d you get money dad? sheeeesh
hey cathy… yes dvd is a tiny little box… i can’t enlarge it.
ya know it tix me off tho how everytime Hank says something all he hers is ,but we didn’t do nothing,even lisa hank said is getting on his nerves,well i imagine so……heck they are all on my last nerve and its raw as hello??
I am so glad my windows are low to da ground cuz oh it frustrares me so bad….but tg if i jump i won’t scrape nuttin but a knee maybe!lol
if ya do its too blurry Adams,mines tinyyyyyyyyyy too!lol
CathyJo63 said,in May 23rd, 2010 at 2:04 pm Lisa, Kristina Renee Prevatt were present at the house during the disturbance and so was a 17-year-old white female whose name was redacted from the report.
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who was redacted i wonder?
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misty
this might help you though,take your cursor and put it on the left side of your lil box there where they are,and when it changes to an arrow on both ends click and hold as you pull it to the left,
assuming u don’t already know,but once u learn that you can enlkarge both side,top and bottom and its not blurry!
cathy, call into the show and ask a question.
30 minutes til show
oh hey Oj!!!!!
me call??????? wth are you crazy?
i’d have to use my voice for dat OJ!
cathy jo
what day was the fight with tommy and hank?
so naynay was there – hmm
ron told cobra he knows without a doubt that misty was not home.
i think that is why the door was unlocked that nite- ron calls tommy to go check on misty cuz shes not answerin the phone.
jr said he saw a man with squeky shoes and the couch was bouncin.
i wonder if joe was with tommy. what did one of em do or both?
@CathyJo63 I appreciate you words on the Menphis shooting. Also O,J. and Maryd. I love all you guys and the way you support all when things happen.I haven’t got to listen to any of the tapes yet.Do you think we’re going to find out the truth or not? The Ohio Valley and sinus headaches seem to go hand in hand right now. lol I pray they find out what happened.This has about drove me nuts.I can’t imagine if it was one of my grandchildren!!!
I want to hear it
OJ’s glove said,in May 23rd, 2010 at 2:25 pm who was redacted i wonder?
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misty
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Hey, CathyJo, I think OJ’s glove correct on this one and seems to be the more logical choice instead of Kelly, Nay Nay’s sister. Thanks bunches, OJ’s glove. 😀
HM,LOL I always say gotta pee cuz my front teeth are floating,lol hm maybe that don’t work for everybody,lol
So i didn’t miss it OJ,I thought i had,went there earlier,no radio…..lol
i keep losing my dang dsl conxn?
I’ve no doubt you guys are right,who is the girl on dvd 4 with misty??
You’re very welcome Grandmaof5,I honestly can’t imagine and i guess I am glad i can’t though i don’t wanna not feel for anyone else in the situation,i don’t know how ppl get through losing a child or a grandchild,my heart really does go out to them!!!!!!!!!
theres a countdown to when the show starts,
when it says on air hit refresh to get sound.
Jason said,
in May 23rd, 2010 at 12:36 pm
Tape 3, Hank: “Gotta pee real bad”, “They oughta castrate him (Bruce, who has 8 kids) while they got him in jail!”
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Huh? I must have missed that part. I heard him say he needed to use the bathroom urgently but nothing about a Bruce or 8 kids or castration.
I must need to re-listen.
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The investigation by Peggy Cone into the internet stuff has piqued my curiosity and my imagination.
IIRC, the doc dump in the Casey Anthony case had a letter from Domick Casey to Peggy Cone warning her about “MURT”.
Anybody know more about Mr. Murt? Or Debbie? Or Tony?
though i have learned one thing in life for sure,that is you’ve never really been to a funeral until it’s you whose on the front pew!
been there a few times myself but raised in church i went to thousands of funerals but never once really thought of how that person went on afterwards,
and when my husband passed away i knew because out of not understanding it..people don’t know what to say.and i thought many times,man they act like i lost my car keys,not my mate!
but i was just like them,didn’t understand it so of’course i didn’t know!
CathyJo,
Why did you post those articles? [Sorry, I’m slow sometimes and kinda lazy at times.]
Only Murt,anthonys treated them like dogs and all they were were nice to them! They went down to the search site that one day and almost attacked murt and ripped a Caylee poster right off their truck??
Casey was writing to their grand daughter when she wasn’t supposed too?
the little girl ended up in the hospital sick and i think really emotional problems??
when the signs were being sold on ebay for big bux,g and c ripped it right off his truck!
i watched Murts livestream alot!!!!!
don’t know if its true but since i have now REheard peggy cones name,theres alottttt of stuff out there about her in Haleighs case!
CathyJo63 said,
in May 23rd, 2010 at 2:49 pm
Only Murt,anthonys treated them like dogs and all they were were nice to them! They went down to the search site that one day and almost attacked murt and ripped a Caylee poster right off their truck??
Casey was writing to their grand daughter when she wasn’t supposed too?
the little girl ended up in the hospital sick and i think really emotional problems??
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Can’t believe I watched all that dramarama with Murt and Lois and the rest of those characters.
Kristie had asked for one LFlorida,and Hollys said Me had contamintaed me because she thought Chloe being born with narcotuics in her system was a rumor..its not a rumor,its fact,why.is there a problem?
you or me VAQ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
but i know the story,or think i do,you couldn’t pay to me to listen to any of em now though!
a circus Vaq! all it was from day one!
brb phone call
cricket
ok i went to look and cobra said that feb 2009. interview with ron was march 2009 then cobra said she wasnt home later on.
LFlorida said,in May 23rd, 2010 at 1:07 pm Prt 3, 12:24
DEBBIE off of the internet called Hank.
Really?!
LFlorida who is DEBBIE oof the internet?
hello?
Hi CathyJO 🙂
CathyJo,I haven’t been thru losing a husband,but have come too close.I know when my dad died I really didn’t think my mom would live very long.They had been married just a little less than 50yrs. They never spent a night apart, other than when one of them was in the hospital.
Has anyone considered that Misty may have a Dissociative Disorder? She is at the right age. Dissociated Fugue due to all her past trauma of rape and abuse or Dissociative Amnesia? These things could very simply explain her inability to remember things. Plus the fact that she was so drugged up. I don’t think she knows what happened or she has shut it out of her conscious memory (this would explain the failed LDT’s). She may recall, but to her, it seems like a dream and she can’t differentiate the difference. Like she says, they need to focus on someone else. The person or persons who took Haleigh. They need to figure out who would either want to take Haliegh or who would want to harm her and it’s not Ron or Misty. They were just crappy parents or protectors. Someone took advantage of that, whether she was taken and is safe or taken and dead.
Casey Anthony is a different story as she is the murderer. She has numerous problems that have been shown since childhood, that her mother ignored and/or was so emeshed and controlled by her mother that there are no clear boundaries of right and wrong, or what is reality. Casey’s sense of reality is very distorted. She has invented a ficticious person (with a name, history, life, etc. that doesn’t exist) somewhere in her delusional mind to take the blame. She was most likely Manic with a psychotic episode when she killed Caylee and did what she did. Very bizarre behavior! Of course, I am not a Psychiatrist, but I don’t think it takes rocket science to figure out if a jagged bloody bone is sticking out of the skin, it most likely is broken.
Just my thoughts.
Jen M–I think you ae right on changing the focus in the Haleigh investigation.
I snipped something in an article that really showed how well LE provided the slant to the media and Misty (and I thought this was an unbiased investigation?):
**She is very street savvy,” Putnam County Sheriff’s Lt. Johnny Greenwood said last week. “People have seen her on the news and how quickly she can change her story.”
Observers say the travails of the Croslin family are one reason the case holds such fascination for the public – a fascination that has been fed by media attention unprecedented for Putnam County and has both helped and hindered the case.
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Hank wants Misty to give Tommy money? They should be worried about his three little ones having what they need!!
Not sure where everyone is.
CathyJo: I was hoping you would call the show today. You always have good questions. I should know though after reading your posts this long you wouldn’t. Not your style. I think you’re shy? Lol, I know it wouldn’t appear that way here
Hi stormgardner
cathys here bloggin on another blog
I also found this as interesting.
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Asked how officers reached the decision that this was now a homicide case, Bowling said, “It’s a lot of information over the last few weeks. None of us believe we are looking for an alive child anymore.”
But he said officials also have not told family members to “prepare for a funeral.”
Various news reports have said Haleigh’s family was told to make funeral arrangements.
“We would never tell them something as cold-hearted as prepare for a funeral,” he said, adding that the family would be told if the girl were found.
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Despite recent broadcast reports to the contrary, the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office announced Wednesday that investigators combing the St. Johns River last week in the disappearance of Haleigh Cummings uncovered alligator toenails, teeth and other “biological” items – but no human remains.
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Haleigh Cummings Related Links:
Ronald Cummings likely to agree to plea deal
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No clues yet in new search for Haleigh
Maj. Gary Bowling said many items considered biologicaRoad.
l were found last week during a search of the river’s dark waters near Shell Harbour However, he said, officials with the C.A. Pound Human Identification Lab at the University of Florida “identified everything that was biologic as not human.”
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How do you classify this as a homocide if you have no body, remains, or biological material?
CathyJo: Hey girl, how’s it going? Just one thing, it’s not you’re time, step away from the light………..LOL I just noticed that you and OJ were like, friendly! Scary…..
JenM
I read an artical with rons grandma that raised him -sykes- she said that misty hardly showed emotion or flinched when she was question everytime- her behavior seems emotionless
i think it was the drugs but also maybe her being numb/ wonder if rumors true about all the bad stuff happened to her she does not prob want to come out.
sorry about the last post..I accidentally hit post comment before I was finished and some things I was trying to delete got stuck in that. Sorry ya’ll!
Hi Robin
I dont understand how they can say make funeral arrangments if they dont hav evidence she is dead.
When Ron’s attorney made that comment, Crystal came out and said that it was untrue. Crystal stated that she and Ron were not making funeral arrangements and that “whoever” said that was wrong. Crystal has also made comments, on her myspace page, that there are alot of lies/untruths going around. It’s been awhile back, a few days after the statement was made.
Does anyone know what happened to Holly’sGMom?
I haven’t seen her here lately. Just curious.
Hi stilllucy
it was also said by crystals detective on a live interview Haleigh was dead
Hi stilllucy
crstals detective said- we will not be suprised when we hear who killed her
They, LE, have come to the conclusion that HaLeigh is dead but, the funeral remark was made by the attorney. I believe.
Crystal’s detective is a retired FBI agent and his investigation has concluded basically what LE has determined that HaLeigh is dead. That’s what shoots the theory of the Sheffields’ in the foot for me. This detective spent alot of time with them and if HaLeigh was abducted by them, surely, he would have found something out or been suspicious of the family. His name is Steve Brown and now he’s working with Tommy’s attorney. Go figure.
Hi stilllucy
yea i thought it was wierd that he was working on both sides
Thanks Kristie, I appreciate it.
Now I am confused. I could have sworn I saw on one of the news channels that they did tell the family to make funeral arrangements. That sounded strange to me. So, did Ron’s attorney really come out and say that? Wow, had I known, I would have tried to ask that question on the show today.
I try to keep up so I’m not asking so many questions, but what was that all about when they were supposed to have had the families get together for this meeting. Crystal came out crying, so did TN. What’s up with that?
Can someone please fill me in if know? I try to watch for the rumors, but I thought that was stated as fact.
I had never heard of someone telling the family to make funeral arrangements like that without having a body, or lots more evidence anyway.
I wish people would stop with the rumors so the truth can finally come out.
JenM said,
in May 23rd, 2010 at 4:06 pm
Has anyone considered that Misty may have a Dissociative Disorder? She is at the right age. How interesting. You know that does make sense. She can be a liar sometimes, telling the truth sometimes and forgetting things sometime. Interesting.
Especially with the drugs and fatigue.
Hi stormgardner
actually On Nacy Grace Rons attorney did say that the police told ron to make funeral arragments. the meeting with everyone was after tommy took a poly and they were to search the st johns river – tommys attorney said because of tommys poly police are doing the search. i think thats the day crystals detective said he solved this case. also on crystals myspace she said that day I wont believe those liars till I SEE proof. so what they told them i dunno.
I think Joe and tommys involved and they are all playing the cops. ron said misty wasnt home so did tommy back then.
stories changed since. rons son said a man with squeky shoes came in and the couch was bouncin.
tommy admits joe was there and the van but.. he said joe held him with a knife which i do not beleive. maybe it was a drug dealer?
misty was hanging with dealers prostitutes ect. so who knows. i think tommy knows and he was there.
Only illegal immigrants get “state” health care per Hank Sr… racist,figures that goes along with ignorance….. and I thought Hank Sr was illiterate, apparently not enough to not be able to read about state health care.. oh he was “just looking”….. I am really confused, poor Hank can’t work because he needs surgery on his back, hip and knee….or because he is so depressed…or because of Misty’s publicity…or he can’t read or write… My gosh, these people have a bazillion stories over the very basics of life.
Jnet, Lol, I don’t think Hank really can read. If I understood right, it sounded like he went there, and apparently there were Mexicans there. I don’t know how he would know if they were illegal or not. Misty sure got a kick out of that, didn’t she?
stormgardner:
LE commented on that directly and said that they would never tell a family to make funeral arrangements. The meeting @ PCSD was to bring the family up to date on the investigation and to notify them of the reclassification of the investigation, from a missing person to a homicide.
homespain: I was working with a 40yr old female that was on a state waiver disability for mmr. She is married to a very abusive man and he decided that he wanted her to have a baby so that they could get more aid from the gov’t. Long story short, we had to place the child in foster care and she, the momma, still doesn’t get it. Misty reminds me soooooo much of this female. Misty appears to be in control of certain situations but, she still appears to be extremely slow. Her lack of education doesn’t appear to be her only problem. I’m wondering if anyone has had her evaluated. The stories that she tells and the lies tend to lead me to believe that she has a mental disability.
Stormgardner…. Unfortunately she did.. just one more example of the never ending dysfunction, I’m sorry but I also perceive it as incredible ignorance that has been rampant in this family for many generations. When will this cycle ever be broken???
For some reason part four won’t play. I’ve been downloading to realplayer and I see it downloaded 26:41 but it doesn’t play. Anyone having diffuculty part 4 playing?
heyitsmekelly, I can’t get the second or fourth tape to play… so don’t get PC frustrated 😉
TRACYM thank you for the link!
Did anyone catch the part where she tells her cousin Cher that Ron said he wouldnt testify against her? Bet she is peed off now. Guess he lied. lol jmo
Well cousin Cher sure put the light on why they have gotten away with it so far. I guess they have been through enough shat storms before now to have gotten aolt of practice.
She says they made it out of those so dont worry.lol jmo
Cher is a real winner too. Go for the guys in the army with high rank for more money. Yeah every girl needs to be a gold digger.lol How about working for yourself and then finding a mate? jmo
Great advice from a cousin that has a child from a guy who already has 8 kids.lol lol lol jmo
Well we now know why she came running back from Tenn. Ronny missed her. Yeah sure he did.
She was not afraid of Joe.jmo
I just wonder if the cops working this case don’t feel like the 3 stooges at times. I sure would……Every story that’s told, seems to be retold differently……Time after time after time.
Just wait til you see the one with Tommy and Lindsy after he takes the poly! She is ticked off to say the least. She also mentions that Timmy keeps sneaking out after Chelsea is in bed asleep to hit the bars. Interesting!!!
Sillygirl said,in May 23rd, 2010 at 7:35 pm Just wait til you see the one with Tommy and Lindsy after he takes the poly! She is ticked off to say the least. She also mentions that Timmy keeps sneaking out after Chelsea is in bed asleep to hit the bars. Interesting!!!
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where do you see that one?
I picked up the DVDs so I actually got to see them all. That one was the most interesting of all of them.
Oh Cool thanks for sharin- thanks for pickin them up to ! that is interesting.
I want to listen to it again myself. I can’t wait til they post it. I can say that Lindsy accuses Tommy and the rest of the family of some crazy (but probably true) stuff.
I cant wait to here them either 🙂
hope they post soon!
My take on this after listening to all these tapes is this…. Misty is def the center of all of this. I believe the Timmy and Ronald are involved. And Tommy is just lying to try to protect his sister, so Joe is going under the bus. And Lindsy needs to get a new recording for her cellphone. I would suggest Lady Gaga’s song Telephone. Seems perfect to me.
Can call all you want,
but there’s no one home,
and you’re not gonna reach my telephone!
Out in the club,
and I’m sippin’ that bub,
and you’re not gonna reach my telephone!
Call when you want,
but there’s no one home,
and you’re not gonna reach my telephone!
Out in the club,
and I’m sippin’ that bub,
and you’re not gonna reach my telephone!
Boy, the way you blowin’ up my phone
won’t make me leave no faster.
Put my coat on faster,
leave my girls no faster.
I shoulda left my phone at home,
’cause this is a disaster!
Callin’ like a collector –
sorry, I cannot answer!
Misty is a victim who has been used by men since she was very young. Joe, her brothers, Ron, and countless others. She feels guilty and when she makes a drug deal, it’s usually the only time she has power (remember how relaxed she looks in the car with Ron. If Haleigh would have lived, she would have become like the rest of them. It’s a learned behavior that goes on from generation to generation. Misty told on Cousin Joe cause she doesn’t feel close to him. It’s a lot harder to tell of brothers & father. That’s my opinion.
haha sillygirl
cant wait to hear them
hey Sillygirl
why do you think Ronalds invovled?
I havent been able to watch any on realplayer yet.Maybe im doing something wrong.Ive been reading all day,an heard all,but these DVDs
Ill wait to comment on them untill i see,an hear them for myself.Ill keep reading your comments untill i do get them to play.Boy am i PO lol been trying all day!!!!
Sillygirl said,
in May 23rd, 2010 at 7:35 pm
Just wait til you see the one with Tommy and Lindsy after he takes the poly! She is ticked off to say the least. She also mentions that Timmy keeps sneaking out after Chelsea is in bed asleep to hit the bars. Interesting!!!
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that means he could have sneaked out of the house the night Haleigh went missing too. maybe it was him that drove the van.
I keep changing my mind in this case everytime something new comes out. BUT from the very beginning I knew Ron was involved..
for some reason I believed some of what Misty was saying in tape 1 or 2 and it got me to thinking..
she sounded like she really had no idea what happened.. she didn’t know if Joe was involved.. she didn’t know where Ron “had been” since he was right there when she opened the door!
Remember.. supposedly Ron had left the headless rat in Tommy’s mailbox. He didn’t want Tommy to tell something.. so apparently Tommy and Ron are involved at the very least.
Misty said something about a man had Haleigh and they could get her back later but if they said something they would get killed or Haleigh would get killed?
Earlier on Ron said if he had had the reward money then HE could get her back.
Did Tommy and Ron go together to trade Haleigh for drugs? something went wrong? blame Joe?
Did they knock Misty out (drug her) so she would sleep and stage a kidnapping? I have no idea!
vaquera said,
in May 23rd, 2010 at 10:57 pm
that means he could have sneaked out of the house the night Haleigh went missing too. maybe it was him that drove the van.
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I’ve been wondering about Timmy for quite awhile, especially given Chelsea’s changing stories. Then, add in what she said on one of these new tapes (one of the first 15 calls posted while talking to Tommy) where she mentioned her and Timmy couldn’t come to FL for fear of being arrested. (She then said that now that they were searching the river, they could come “help search” now that they didn’t have to worry about being arrested). That sure raised a bunch of red flags for me!
What made Chelsea think they might be arrested? What did LE tell them during those 14 hours they were questioned in MA?
Misty is one of the most self centered people I have ever seen. Her father made it clear that they are broke and he needs to pay her mom’s probation money or she is going to go to jail but Misty never once says don’t waste money on phone minutes or gas to drive up here and see my sorry ass. He even says something about only eating once a day and Misty acts as if he didn’t say a word and kept on going on about her snacks and meals.
For now anyway I can’t play any of these tapes. Sierra is usually fantastic about posting videos. Can anyone help me out with a link to these particular videos if they are posted somewhere? I’m striking out big time.
Huge thanks to anyone who can help, I really want to listen to these tapes.
Sorry folks I figured out what i was doing wrong! I’m able to see the vids afterall.
Thanks anyway.
Do I understand correctly that you will be posting more? You are up to DVD 2 and there are 5?
Congrats, Cher
How fun to get to share your fun story about you & your guy watching NG, tehehehehehehehe
I love reading this blog but have never posted before.CathyJo,u crack me up.Thanks for all the hard work you guys do. I just wish they could break out the truth serum.I’d even give the shot at no charge.
LFlorida said,in May 23rd, 2010 at 2:46 pm: ” . . . I must have missed that part. I heard him say he needed to use the bathroom urgently but nothing about a Bruce or 8 kids or castration.
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You’ll hear it on tape 1, not 3, where Hank talks to Misty about Cher’s ex husband Bruce who has 8 children (Dominick is Bruce and Cher’s son).
LOL – Hank says: “. . . while they have him (Bruce) in jail right now, they oughta go ahead and castrate him now, so he can’t have any more.”
Soon after the above, he says: “I gotta pee real bad!”
CathyJo63 said,
in May 23rd, 2010 at 2:53 pm
Kristie had asked for one LFlorida,and Hollys said Me had contamintaed me because she thought Chloe being born with narcotuics in her system was a rumor..its not a rumor,its fact,why.is there a problem?
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NO, lol, I was sincerely curious. I wasn’t sure if it was mentioned on the DVDs or audios and I was just too dense to connect the dots. Sorry & thx.
🙂
JBirdC @ 2:08 –
HANK is incredibly SELFISH – suicide is a SELFISH ACT.
Has he stopped to think of the effect suicide would have on his children, grandchildren, wife, parents?
What sort of role model is that? The going gets tough, kids – just kill yourself?
Misty needs a PARENT, Hank, not a friend to give her a back-rub!
After he tells her that he’ll rub her back when she gets out, she makes it clear that she will PAY for a massage.
Misty placed a boundary on the level of intimacy Hank has with her.
Misty parenting Hank.
Paraphrased – Hank tells Misty he has had it with her mother.
I understand – he’s mad at Lisa for stealing, which costs him more money, but that is for discussion with his wife, not his daughter.
Discuss your marital problems with your wife, Hank, not your daughter.
MAN UP, HANK, and quit dumping on your teen-aged daughter.
Suicide, Hank? What about your children? You want to cause them more grief?
How * selfish can you get??
Hank talks sucide, shouldn’t his Driver’s License be revoked?
SELFISH, SELFISH, SELFISH!
jean said,
in May 24th, 2010 at 7:14 am
Do I understand correctly that you will be posting more? You are up to DVD 2 and there are 5?
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I am wondering this too jean. There are supposedly 6 DVD’s. Where are the rest of them?
I understand it takes some time, but an answer would be nice.
http://www.wftv.com/health/23657736/detail.html
Sorry Jan57 bove post Pure Herion ,mexican smugglers. My 10:11 post
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