I am not quite sure what to say about this article. I know in our hearts we tried our best to keep Haleigh’s name in the headlines. We care about what happened to Haleigh and you can bet we haven’t covered it for any money like some other money-hungry people have. When we were offered money for help in retrieving tapes we refused to take it because we figured if we can’t do it ourselves then we just can’t.

I love you all that has stood by us in all this mess, and we all know that is exactly what this case has turned into.

I am keeping our forum open and I am going to be leaving a message to everyone in there to read, so if you are a member you can find it there.

Please don’t lose faith in us. I will never give up trying to keep Haleigh’s name out there until she is found one way or another.

God bless you all!

Jan Barrett

Thank You Simon for your time & efforts. I wondered often how you kept going with this story. The people involved in Haleigh’s murder are behind bars. Justice will NOT be served if Misty is sentenced as a minor when this happened. She is the one who killed Haleigh, perhaps accidentally, called her brother and together they dumped the body.
I would plead to a drug charge too before a murder charge.
There really is no more to this story.

BOLDONE3 – No more to the story? We don’t know the story. We don’t know what happened to Haleigh, if she’s alive or dead, where she is or who is responsible. I pray that one day we will.

Jan and Simon you both have made the best possible effort of anyone and under the most awful conditions to do right by Haleigh. Thank you for that and God bless.

LadyDay said,
in August 31st, 2010 at 8:04 pm

I know the road hasnt been easy, Simon. Please DO NOT do this. The people will take it to mean they defeated you. My suggestion. Take the rest of the week off from this and re-group. This just shows how low they can go. Go out to dinner, take a walk. I know I have seen many a tearful day over this case and I wanted to step away, but refuse I have been so angry over the other high profile case that I had to step back or risk having a complete breakdown.

Theres a little girl out there who needs us, all of us. Do not let her down.

Hugs and kisses to you both
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Well said and I agree.

Thank you Jan and Simon for all you have done to keep Haleigh’s name out there.
I find it sad that these drama mongers have forced this decision. The truth will come out-but as far as I can see you folks have done nothing wrong.
We can still discuss the case in the forum.
God bless you both!

LadyDay said,
in August 31st, 2010 at 8:04 pm

I know the road hasnt been easy, Simon. Please DO NOT do this. The people will take it to mean they defeated you. My suggestion. Take the rest of the week off from this and re-group. This just shows how low they can go. Go out to dinner, take a walk. I know I have seen many a tearful day over this case and I wanted to step away, but refuse I have been so angry over the other high profile case that I had to step back or risk having a complete breakdown.

Theres a little girl out there who needs us, all of us. Do not let her down.

Hugs and kisses to you both.

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I have to agree with you, LadyDay.

I can’t imagine how awful it is to have a bunch of immature morons tossing insults that are not only unfounded, but belong on a playground in an elementary school.

This is the only site that has kept HaLeigh’s name alive for the past 18 months. I have long feared once the sentencing is over, HaLeigh’s name will totally disappear all together if not for BNN. If her case is dropped from HERE, then what? She will be forgotten for all intents and purposes? 🙁

No matter what is decided, I do thank both Simon and Jan for everything they have done for HaLeigh, her family and for us.

Jan, Simon…what can I say except to add along with the other commentors that BNN is the ONLY site that has carried the Haleigh Cummings case for us..where we can come on here and comment along with you two.

I can certainly understand that those who have attacked you are now jumping for joy at your decision to end the HC case.
I can also understand how you both are feeling now since you have been advocates for the missing/abused and murdered children we read about each day in the news and on the telly.

Might I suggest that you take some time off and get away from the show..and the news letter you put out for us almost on a daily basis. Perhaps a little time for yourselves would be the best medicine….walking on the beach, or a nice quiet country lane would be perfect.

Please, oh please reconsider your decision. If only for this child who needs justice served for her…..even if her own family dosen’t care if she gets it or now.

Please don’t let those who attacked you win….please don’t let that happen.

Simon, I wouldn’t worry about the money thing. Here’s why. Trish at Websleuth’s charges her members THIRTYFIVE DOLLARS to remove the ads if they don’t want to see them everyday other wise, they just have to deal with them. KP is a member there under the hat Jericho. Doesn’t bother her much there.

I really hate to see you let them win. I think Radio Newz had a lot to do with this Flame War. It’s all good, because after you are gone, she will be turning on someone new with her new side Kick..”Ms. Big Nose in Need of Plastic Surgery”

It was “Ms. Big Nose in need of Plastic Surgery” who took the picture from your Facebook and gave it to John G. That woman is shameless.

I will still read your other commentary.

Take care of you and Jan.

Wow, Simon. I am really very sorry that your have made this decision. However, who needs people that cannot control themselves over and over again. It’s like a merry go round. I’ve seen some of the comments toward you and Jan and I just shake my head. Jan is awesome and a sweetheart. You all seem somewhat opposite that probably makes your relationship interesting. We all have a right to our opinion but a person can get their thoughts across and still be respectful.

I am floored that you have made this decision but as an owner of a website for the murdered and missing, I know how some people can be. I don’t tolerate disrespect and neither should you. Words hurt.

You’ve worked you arse off and this is so wrong. I truly feel for you!

Blessings to you, Simon

Simon, We all know what a beautiful and loving person Jan is and that you both care more about Haleigh then those who are close to case. If you give up now, they win and where is the Justice for Haleigh! I know you are doing what you feel is right for your family & I respect that but your commentary will be missed!
Hugs to both of you!

Wrap it up,

Simon was accused of making money off of this case with this site..(which I know he isn’t) I was trying to make him feel a little better.

Thank you.

If you don’t think Radio News is getting her jollies off over this go count her LMAO she is making on her forum, right now.

Funny, she was after Levi Page a few months ago….and now they are on speaking terms..

Now…Well you know the rest of the story.

Hello Simon & Jan,
I think that you are both great, and I really enjoy you. I know that what you do is more for us than it is for you. The two of you have put in a lot of effort in keeping us abreast with news worthy events. I feel that everyone responsible for little Haleigh’s death are already incarcerated. I feel that the person responsible for little Caylee’s death is already incarcerated. The one thing that I wish would stop by all media is ANY coverage of Cindy and George Anthony. They LOVE it. Let’s not feed into them. Blessing to the two of you. You have provided us all with a great service.

Jan and Simon,

Here is a suggestion-

You do not screen the blog, so save yourself reading the hate mail. Let the vile blog. We agree to ignore the vile ( I have to admit though, I do get a laugh out of it, even if it is directed at me, because these people are so absurd it is funny) and the vile will eventually get bored and go on to another site.

you and Jan are taking this too personally, and that is exactly why the vile will not leave….they are getting a rise out of you, and getting their Jollies from eliciting emotion. And my goodness…you are QUITING!!!
Their mission is accomplished.

While I hate to see it happen, I do understand. You can’t let this consume your entire life. You have done everything humanly possible to keep Haleigh’s name out there. We just have to hope & pray they find her soon & find out the truth.
It’s obvious it hurts you to see Jan’s heart broken over & over again.
Jan, it’s your desision. Don’t be concerned what others think. You need your health & sanity. As you said, we have the forum.
I’d be lying if I said it didn’t bother me, but only because, (and I mean no disrespect to you posting this here) HE said his main goal was & is to see BNN shut down. Yes, that bothers me.
I just don’t understand why.

I may have missed part of what is going on, but Simon and Jan please reconsider for us that come here to comment and just talk about the case,and listen to the radio panel,trying to find or get justice for HaLeigh, she needs all of us, and you are the vehicle that we need for this ride, I know you don’t let down easy Simon, so please don’t let this be the time.

Here I go back out on that limb but someone has to say it.The problem is Jan and Simon can’t seem to get away fro the BS from the other sites. Haleigh and other missing children are the reason they are here. Jan stated the last time all of this was brought here that she does not wander over to the other sights. It seems she can not get away from the bad stuff said. Everything has been going along fairly well and then again tonight at 5:59 it is another mention of another new SLAP to our hosts faces. Why does anyone do this? Obviously they, Jan and Simon do not want any of this BS discussed here. They do not want it to distract from their causes. Yet here again their very own lyol followers bring it up as a topic “off topic” , On any other site she can and does choose not to read. When it is brought from the other sites to here she just can’t ignore this crap.
I think this hurts Jan more than the negative comments on any other site. Her bloggers are giving her nemesis a stage. They are bringing the nasty stuff over to Jan and Simon’s “home”
They have stated they do not want this site or themselves invaded with this. With no control comes no choice. Shut it down or be forced to see what they choose not to see and then defend themselves right here at “home”
I am truly sorry that some people just did not understand your feelings and your message and leave the other garbage at the other sites.
Sorry for you , Simon and Jan and very sorry for Haliegh. She was lucky to have you both as a voice for justice, Lets all pray that it will be done, cause I for one do not believe it has yet.AJMO and I am sorry if any take offence

*ask them if they are making money..

All I’ve been doing tonight is correcting my typing LOL

BarbinOhio, I agree. No More Please. I don’t care to read that garbage. I don’t even want to know about it. Im sorry it hurt those who are here for Haleigh. But, lets get past it and move forward.

Lets just talk about Haleigh!!!

Simon i understand and support your decision though i am disappointed because this is the only site i turn to for news on haleigh. i have no idea what tje other folks have been saying about you or jan because i dont go there. my motto has been “bnn…why blog anywhere else?”

I have no clue what KP is doing. I heard she was representing Lisa Croslin but then LC was missing? What is up with that? Where is Lisa now? I detest the politics. All it does is create animosity and arguments. Who cares what KP is doing? The only way I would care is if she found HaLeigh – THEN let’s talk.

Simon, I truly feel for you. You are making a tough decision and I know deep down all you want is for HaLeigh to be found and get to the bottom of what happened that night.

If some people are saying you are being paid..let them say it. YOU and Jan know the truth. I hate to see two decent folks getting burnt like this.

I understand your position to not follow the missing child,Haleigh. Forum wars is not the answer to finding her. Each forum working together could contribute a small link to her discovery. That’s all we’ve ever wanted. God Bless You.

Simon & Jan….I hope you both reconsider. Your coverage is all I ever hear about poor little Haleigh. I really don’t know what this is all about (and don’t need to) but I’m hoping little Haleigh doesn’t get forgotten. You both have a wonderful program and guests and would be sorely missed. Thanks for all you do.

wrapitup said,
in August 31st, 2010 at 11:29 pm

OMG, did I copy more than I needed? I was trying to quote Vaquera. Can you fix it? This is what happens when I take care of my 13-1/2 mo old grandson all day. I am pooped!! SO Sorry!
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LOL, I do that all the time and run screaming to Jan to fix it..she said it goes into moderation though you can see it I can’t. 😀

I guess it goes into moderation because it’s soooooooooo long, LOL

I, too, had a non profit site. Between all of the murders I didn’t choose to follow, because of the recession (or whatever) and all of those killing their families off… I got fed up with the nit picking of some of my members. In fact, that was the final straw.

If you can hang in there, just block your adversaries and ignore the BS.

I truly understand your agony.

Niki Hunter (aka Cloey)

I follow many cases, including Haleigh’s. Thanks for you and Jan’s input.

Wow is all I can say.

Imo, Haleighs name will be back on BNN after a break…I guess we will see.
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I hope folks who push, pull and drag the ‘gossip junk’ over here and post it and get it attention are happy. Imo, this action helped grind this thing here at bnn to a halt.

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This post could get looooooong if it is our last. Get your dsl modems warmed up. 🙂

I really don’t see the point of you guys backing off of this case. To be perfectly honest, I do not even know who you are talking about nor do I care who they are or what they have said. All I know is that I am in Chicago and this is the ONLY site I can find credible information regarding this case. Please reconsider.

Simon,anJan,I understand.Watch an wait.Those who have been on the attack.Will fall publicly.

God isnt pleased with what hss happened here.An God says Vengence is his.That he will repay.This weapon(attack) against you.They will not peosper from it.

I do hope you will change your minds.But if not i undersand .
God Bless both of you.

I really don’t know what to say… I knew the other day when Simon pointed out a particular poster that had been attacking, I knew then that our days of asking certain unanswered questions where numbered and was why I made the choice then to become silent on the board and not the forum. In 18 months I have seen many destroyed or shut down in connection to this case and have been a victim myself of many hateful persons.
Jan, I will be in the Forum every day that I can to continue our search for those answers that WILL find HALeigh.
By the way, If HaLeigh was dead we would not have had the circus come to town! We would not have been witness to months and months of a family fighting over these children. We would not be still in the proverbial place that we have been TOLD to be in and that is in the dark and Simon and Jan would not of been forced to make this decision.
HaLeigh is alive, Simon and that is the only reason this BS has went this far for this long.
IMO it will take a clever cop to catch this clever criminal and that is not who is behind bars. That sting IMO didn’t require to much brilliance (or out side the box tactics) to pull all the obtuse that are behind bars now.

I clicked on here today to see this new article. It honestly brought tears. I do understand and respect you both. I am sorry that these wicked people would attack such wonderful people as you and Jan.
There motive is to have you stop reporting on Haleighs case. I ask you to please not surrender to the wiles of Satan. He does not like the truth to be exposed. Haleigh needs the Truth and Justice to be heard.The true FACT is if you and Jan stop reporting on this case then Haleigh has lost the most compassionate advocates that she has. We, the BNN family know as well as yourselves that you have no other agendas, but to help bring Justice and closure for a beautiful little girl that is most deserved.
My heart and prayers go out to you both.

I am saddened that it has come to this. When I found BNN I was grateful that I could read an article about the case and not self promotion. I can tell from your articles that you both truly care what happened to this child. Thank you for all your good work and for what it is worth I wish you would keep it up.

God Bless

Really… and I thought this whole time it was about justice for Haleigh not Simons pride. And on to the next one.

Broward county clerk of courts has all the forclosures. Very interesting, I love to dig for info. Thank you. jmo

I am going to miss your articles and radio shows about Haleigh. This is the only place I read for Haleigh information.

I was not even aware bloggers have been bashing you and Jan.

Hope you reconsider.

Regards,
KP

I am alone. ‘Lost in the world.
I wonder does anyone recall what its like to see me smile?
Does my name bring Joy to those that will remeber me?
Will my light shine on after the night time falls?
Can anyone understand that I am scared.
Will someone stand up and fight for me?
I’m lost in the shadow’s of time and been here too long.
Please dont forget me I Need you to come and find me.
Please dont let the darkness fall upon me again tonight without anyone to care,
I am Lost and Want to go home.

Thank you Jan and Simon for trying to help find Haleigh God Bless her little heart and may The Lord wrap you in his arms and give you the guildess needed to finish this task you have been handed in Life

Lana, I believe that Haleigh DESERVES to have her name put out to the public whenever, wherever, and as much as possible. Do you see any other reputable media putting Haleigh’s name out there on any kind of a regular basis? No you don’t because there isn’t any.

I think maybe if you don’t appreciate the value that Simon and Jan’s articles contribute to keeping Haleigh’s name out there, then maybe it is YOU that needs the reality check. Maybe you can get it from the evil ones. I am sure they’d be more then happy to help you out.

Why are you here? If you dont like this site why come here? Does it make you feel good to attack others who post here? Get help…. jmo

Well lol i have known Lisa,an Hank for a yr.

I would just love to see the urine screen.KP can post it with Lisas consent.LOL but Kp has tucked her tail an dissappeared.To leave the rest of Gossip mongers to feel as shes done some service.

I begeg to differ.It all about her wanting to be back in this case,that her former client didnt want her in,anymore.

Lana your just someone following the gossip trail..Silly Laden wemon,Busybodies is what God calls wemon like you.

The truth will eventualy come out.Im sure the PO has her drug screen by now,at least he has been made aware of it.

It will be his call in how he handles it.Putnam has been letting the drug issue go for yrs,it seems.At least it now being worked on.

So if nothing else HaLiegh going missing may be reason enough now to clean that town up..

I do have to say that I read different sites every morning to see if there is an update with Haleigh. This site is one of the most common sites that I tend to visit. I’m sorry to hear that you all are going to discontinue covering Haleigh. Her story is very tragic. As mentioned several times, it seems like several people go under the gun when they post blogs about this case. Cobra had to deal with a bunch of crap and I remember reading where Art Harris was attacked in interviews as well. Everyone has their own views and opinions and I just read them all to come up with my own opinions. I wish they would just solve this case. I think all the individuals who were involved are behind bars. They keep ditching the blame on Joe, but then again everyone needs to remember how much lying we have had to read over a year now. He’s another scapegoat in my opinion. There seems to be a common writer that I read here and there that claims they are from the area and that the word from the locals is on how Haleigh OD’d and they ditched the body in a panic. So this is another possibility to consider, on top of Joe, on top of Haleigh was abducted. Why don’t they just talk to Jr some more and let a child psychologist help figure out what he knows. He was there. He is the key. No matter how much threatening and lying there has been. I wish you all would reconsider and continue covering this, but I do understand that you all are going through the backlash of jerks that we all encounter. Take care and thank you for your reports and efforts.

I can’t believe the fools are coming out now. Just like a bully they have to trash others to feel good about themselves. Not satisfied that you got Simon and Jan out of the way? I still don’t see why those people felt it necessary to attack the work that Simon and Jan have done and also attack them personally. What has that really accomplished in this case? Has it brought anyone closer to finding Haliegh? Are you proud of yourselves now Bessie, shayshay, and Lana?

VAQ, pm them to me if you would or a clue of whatto look for. I put what I found on the forum site.jmo

I have to run.I haave been real sick this week.I have to see 3 DRs back to back today.

so ill BBL

To see if Donna get the same as the rest in sentencing.Im sure shes part of the reason MC had pills to sell.AN SHE SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BETTER AT 44.

Jan57- feel better, I’m praying for you!

Simon & Jan

Though I don’t coment often, I do listen in on the web radio show, and I always read your editorials on the “missing” children and adults out there….

Before you make this your FINAL decision, please give thought to the fact that YOU, and JAN have been the voice of these missing idividuals many a time!

Who will speak for them now?

As much as we ‘posters’ can comment, complain and care, we’ve really relied on you two, to guide and lead us in the right and respectful directions.

It just won’t be the same without you doing that for us…

It just won’t be the same without you being THAT so very important VOICE!

With respect, and the warmest regards,
CptKD

I have found the information on this site to be the most informative and accurate of all. Other bloggers are jealous, it’s plain to see. Poor Boy Wonder and the ambulance-chasing lawyer aren’t getting enough attention. Ambulance-chasing lawyer was looking for a way to insert herself back into the case and the most vulnerable party was just the ticket. The public won’t forget the bad stories she spread to try and make her client look good. I admit, that was not an easy task, but she accomplished it and slung plenty of mud in the process.

Anyway, please take some time off and regroup. You’re right that anyone doing this out of the goodness of their heart and not for profit shouldn’t have to put up with this kind of juvenile behavior. But, children they are, so they will act like them. Have your rest and know that you have done a great deal of good. If you choose to return, many of us will be very happy to see you back. And, if you do, please remember that the wisest approach is to ingore juvenile arrows. Wishing you and Jan the best and thank you so much for all that you have done!

Tex – if the shoe fits…. 😀

Jan and Simon–What can I say that others have not said here. I am sickened that this case has turned into a 3 ring circus when there is a missing child. I am sickened that people have tried all along to derail this investigation with their evil machinations and plotting. I am sickened that people who claim to be professional have decided to form a collusion to attack BNN because it has been the most informative website there is concerning this case. For 18 months we have seen the good, bad, and the ugly of this case. But to stoop to the level we have seen this past week against Simon and Jan has been one of the vilest things I have ever saw. Jealousy, pure and simple, is at the heart of this. From the spiteful lawyer with her designer suits and evil heart, the website owner and his penchant for the almighty dollar at the expense of anyone even a missing child(and is mighty proud of it) to the media boy sensation (in his own mind) that does not have the desire to “face” facts when reporting this case, they are pathetic. How did these men become KP’s “whipping boys” and what will happen when she finds no use for them and their hate-filled blogs? None of these recent attacks have anything to do with finding Haleigh–and that is why I support BNN and Jan and Simon. You have kept a nice, honorable “house” to discuss the Haleigh case and I, for one, would hate for both of you to be SILENCED. Haleigh is still missing and this story is far from over. You have been mine and many others’ mainstay on this case, and it would be a sad day if one of Haleigh’s MOST VOCAL voices sings NO MORE. I beg both of you to reconsider–for the sake of Haleigh!

I am sorry to hear Haleigh won’t be covered here anymore. I thank you for all you’ve done since she has been missing. You have never backed away from this case and have kept her in the spotlight. The bloggers here are so informed. The other sites only cover missing children when there is nothing going on with the celebs. I pray someday we will find out where Haleigh is. Thank you wonderful people for not letting her case go cold. God bless you.

tobias – and don’t you know there will be those stupid enough to send money to KP for Lisa? Just like people send Casey Anthony money! Makes no sense but people do it. UGH! I’m not against Lisa getting help but handing her money sure won’t help her! It will put her 6 feet under from a drug and alcohol overdose! 😯

I regret the unkind remarks that have been aimed towards you in the coverage of this case.

You and Jan are passionate about justice for Haleigh and have politely disagreed with others; even while refraining, at times, to opine.

In spite of the length of time since Haleigh’s disappearance, Jan has been steadfast in her hope for a positive ending to this case; while most of us can only think of justice as a positive conclusion. She has been unashamed of her hope; and has always offered fair treatment to others who some suspect. Her gentle demeanor has caused mothers, in despair, to open up and share.

Your professional demeanor remains intact. and you have refrained from mud slinging; staying above what those who have long run out of ideas resorted to.

I hope you change your mind about the Haleigh Cummings case; but I respect the stance you have taken to protect Jan.

She’s worth it.

Best,

Peter Hyatt

http://www.seamusoriley.blogspot.com

I bet Donna’s seriously rethinking her plan of “I’ll go undercover, get close to Misty, get info, find Haleigh, and be a hero”! LOL

You sleep with dogs…you get fleas!

Donna was no middle man in the drug deals, She was the SUPPLIER of the drugs AFTER going out of state to procure the drugs to bring back to Florida for the sole purpose of selling them. They should have given her the max allowed, imo.

Has anyone heard the hurricane is headed to Mass Cape Cod? I heard this on the radio this morning. Maybe gods hand? Wierded things have happened.jmo

Sorry Jan and Simon,ban me if ya want but I’m here for Haleigh and we have waded thru pure bs the whole time and are we just gonna lay down and let it happen??
I’m not,may get thrown out but I’ll chance it,when people can’t see that the people who really care for Haleigh and want the truth are attacked constantly and I for one am sick of it,They sure as hell won’t win on my part!

CC- I was going to rof & lmao, but since this is serious I’ll just agree with you!
I watched as you were attacked & now Jan, I guess they have to stir something up here so they can have something to talk about elsewhere and we know it’s not Haleigh!
This site has dedicated so much time and effort to keeping her name out there even when the mainstream media gave up.
I wish you, Jan & Simon, would reconsider, for the sake of Justice for Haleigh!

Cathy, There are some talking in the forum just thought I would let you know. Some of us post things there we dont want to discuss out here. jmo

Thanks Tobias,I can see why??

Don’t look at the negativity as a bad thing. Consider it a left-hand compliment. If someone sees you as important enough to slam, you must be doing something right.
I wish you would reconsider your decision, but will respect your wishes if you don’t.

Jan + Simon thank you for all your efforts for Haleigh . Truth and justice were your only goal. However, I worry that these horrible people will dog you about any high profile case. Blogs about Caylee will be there next target or that’s what I think. I have met some wonderful people here but have met and read some mean people + comments. I will continue to read your articles provided by this site. They r well written + thought provoking but I will post very little as I have also been verbally attacked on this site. These attacks on a personal level for you + Jan r not good for your health (literally). The world beats you down enough you don’t need to endure the constant assult daily. Please know that you r cared about + that you have many fans. Heads up, you have integrity.

Why lie, That could very well be true about the smokescreen. I would not be surprised one bit if she comes up with something new. But how will we know the truth? Only if she says where Haleigh is. jmo

Jan & Simon,
Again I am saddened about this whole mess however, I understand your position.

I certainly hope that karma comes back and bites all of the guilty parties in the butt! I am talking about those guilty for Haleigh’s disappearance as well as the vile accusations against BNN.

God bless the both of you.

Hmm, Jan and Simon. I don’t know why you’d want to stop reporting on the Haleigh Cummings case. It clearly has the greatest readership on your site. Compare this case to any other article posted. Compare the views, compare the number of comments. So why commit Hari Kari?

If you’ve been stung by some comments, then you need to not take those personally. You’re professional news people that report the news. If you think you stepped over the line and became news makers instead of news reporters, well, maybe you did, maybe you didn’t. But isn’t Fox News often accused of that? Isn’t the Washington Post accused of having certain biases?

So never give up. Did Lance Armstrong give up when he had cancer? No. He overcame it. So you need to pick yourselves back up and get back on the horse you were riding. We all make mistakes and I’m not suggesting that you did. But if you think you did, well, big Whoopie Doo. Get over it and get back to the work at hand.

Simon takes it personally that someone is attacking his wife? In this case, Jan is not his wife, Jan is a another professional and you have to take any comments in that vein. Evaluate what is accurate and act on it and disregard anything else.

I would be sorely disappointed in your strength of your backbones if you let some criticism force you to throw in the towel. I understand, I do , but shame for even thinking of that.

And if you do stop reporting on Haleigh, I can guarantee you that readership and participation in BNN will drop off precipitously and someone less unbiased will step in to fill the void.

jaceesmom – A number of people had much the same theory as cathi long before she did and while she had another theory and since then too. And they were/are treated terribly by people here and from other sites. Good gosh.
Aside from the fact that I don’t believe she was attacked for that reason or certainly that would not have been the only reason, I don’t see anyone else being portrayed or portraying themselves as a victim – because our compassion and concern should be focused on Simon and Jan.

One of my biggest fears, and I know many others that I have spoken to, is that once the people in jail are sentenced on their drug charges, is that the coverage for HALEIGH will just totally drop off the map (as it has done in the past when there is no actual news that ties to the people in HaLeigh’s life. While I hate that THOSE THINGS are what keeps HaLeigh in the media, at least it is something). One thing that kept me satisfied was knowing we’d always have BNN and Simon and Jan. They have never given up on HaLeigh, and I knew they never would. When there was no news, we always had some type of article that just kept “our girl’s” name in the google alerts, and a place for us to post.

I will not say that I don’t understand this decision, because I think people’s behavior is disgusting. And their delight in Simon’s decision is even more horrifying. When did things stop being about HaLeigh and start being about each other? Oh, that’s right… at the start when the dam circus rode into town and took the focus off HaLeigh. Disgusting! I hope karma strikes everyone of those vile XXXXXXs down. And it will.

That said, I hope that with this outpouring of support, we will eventually see coverage of HaLeigh pick up again. Many people look forward to the weekly radio shows and tune in to hear the latest on our sweet HaLeigh.

In the meantime, just chiming in again to say thank you to Simon and Jan.

Is this over KP. Simon it’s like being in the Croslin family type of environment. They pick, twist, lie, frame, anything to get you to break down and stop doing what you are doing…speaking out. That is when you come out and blast them out of the water and show them you won’t take no crap. Go Ali on them it’s the only way to communicate with that type.

This is why I haven’t been posting. I can’t believe someone would use this time to put down Cathy.Isn’t the last few months good enough for people? I have seen the worst kind of cutting remarks on people who don’t have the same opinion as some on here even after Jan continually asks people to skip over others remarks that you don’t agree with.I guess Alex,Looking, BAC,and Tobias is next. I’m sorry Jan.I don’t blame you for this but it has been why some people have left. Again I will really miss you guys!!!!

m2c said,in September 1st, 2010 at 5:44 pm jaceesmom – A number of people had much the same theory as cathi long before she did and while she had another theory and since then too. And they were/are treated terribly by people here and from other sites. Good gosh.
Aside from the fact that I don’t believe she was attacked for that reason or certainly that would not have been the only reason, I don’t see anyone else being portrayed or portraying themselves as a victim – because our compassion and concern should be focused on Simon and Jan.
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Forgive me but I don’t remember anybody agreeing when I came up with my personal theory of Ron being the man in black? Thats when I was targeted and targeted every waking second and I don’t claim to be a victim M2,HaLeigh is the victim and its the only reason I stuck it out when the BS got so thick you needed rubber boots,It went from everyone speaking to me too everyone basically criticizing the theory and bashing me every chance they got,Thats why I say it changed us,I know it did me? wether you have an idea of how bad it got or not,I know it did and I was the same person the day before that theory and had an entire blog of close friends..and the very next it was all I could do to come here without being attacked just like Jan and Simon,but I still did but i did quit sharing or laughing anymore because it wasn’t fun at all anymore except the few close friends who didn’t have conditions to call me a friend??
So in your world,maybe you just don’t wanna see but I lived it and I still do!

Oh, man, I step away for a few days and come back to this! When I saw this escalating last week I got concerned that this is what it would come to. Jan and Simon, know that I support you in whatever decision you make. This is where I always come back to for news of Haleigh. I’ll keep checking in just to see if you’ve reconsidered. I can see the dollar signs in everyone else’s eyes but yours.

God bless! My prayers are with you!

CC- it doesn’t matter what your opinion is, Ron supporter, Misty supporter or if you think the whole bunch of them are guilty, we’re still friends! Believe me no one I know agrees with every opinion I have and I don’t expect them to. So stay strong as we seek the truth of what happened to & find justice for Haleigh!

Hi Grandmaof5- Hope you are both recovering!

As to Lisa, perhaps moving away will be the cure she needs. It’s hard for children to care for a parent so Timmy has a job in store for him but the joy he will get if it works out will be well worth the effort!

Ger was feeding Lisa? LOL, oh my gosh. Ger the supporter of pedophiles? Oh wait accused pedophiles is more politically correct.

Hey Looking,How are ya?

Hi lfj!

This is about simon and jans decision, right?

Hey Chatty and Alex. I am fine. Just feeling a little peeved!

I wonder who is ‘posing’ as jan b when calling jan57?

Looking,Sorry you are but I can honestly understand it!!

Ands how did they get her number? Who would have it? Jan57, got any idea? That’s one strange twist in all of this.

Thats cool!

Me

jaba- I agree about the hanging but it should not apply to just Misty, it should apply to Ron, Tommy or any other person who brought harm to Haleigh! Do you think TN would feel that way if it turns out to be Ron?
As to the phone call, that is strange & concerning!

If TC and Misty lied in order to make LE happy thinking they would get out of jail, they need to come clean and tell the truth.

WhyLie said,
in September 1st, 2010 at 7:16 pm

++++++++++

Oh yes. And not one picture. 😉

J said,
in September 1st, 2010 at 7:56 pm

Wonder if Lisa was “camping” in Ger’s backyard.

He sure is Gramma5,He knows our voices and when Dakota gets home from school,omg Max goes wild…lol

I thought you were going to the forum when you said cool. LOL!! by the way, How are the waves? LOL!!!

Hey G of 5!

OH!! OK! Well if you go to the forum and you see Chatty are you here you know why.LOL!!
HUgs back to you G of 5. Sure have missed. My prayers are with you.

Iagree with you both Chatty and Whylie

LOL!!!!! Chatty. You always make my day. You have such an awesome sense of humor!

Looking,Somebody has to keep these voices in my head entertained,LoL

rofl!!

is there any new news about Lisa? I have been so busy and had car troubles for 3 days straight ughhhhhhh

There have been things posted in the forum Chatty that may be of interest to you.

My understanding is that someone approached KP to help distribute the funds for Lisa’s case. She did NOT volunteer to do this. I don’t understand where the beef is coming from regarding peeps helping Lisa out. You guys give Jan and Simon a pat on the back for trying to do what they feel is the right thing, yet condemn other’s for trying to accomplish the same, which is being charitable to someone in need!

No, I haven’t donated funds… and probably will not, but I’m not gonna knock those that are doing what their heart dictates.

Seems to me that half the people here don’t quite know everything that has transpired! Yes, I am a member of RadioNewz forum, no I don’t always agree with what is posted there, just as I don’t always agree with the postings here!

LOL!Chatty.
Hey Cent.

Grandmaof5-Wow, he is getting up there! Are his parents tall? I have an autistic great niece and I go see her at least once a month. On Monday, I could not believe how tall she is, she is now taller than her doctor! lol
It would be so nice if all children had loving grandparents that were able to care for them when the parents could not but sadly that is not always the case. In some cases the parents are like Casey Anthony and are too selfish to share the love.

Amen Alex.

I will check it out Looking?? That’s a good idea as well as thoughtful!!!!!!!!!

Alex,My daughter was 5/9 by the age of 15 and still is,LoL Wears a 10 shoe,lol
I am 5/5 and a 6 shoe,lol She didn’t take nothing from me.which is a good thing! LoL

Jan and Simon — I join the many others in thanking you both for your time and effort, and also understanding your position. This is the only site I go to for HaLeigh news, and I check in several times a day. I will miss chewing over the various theories and new pieces of info. I seldom post, but I feel like I “know” most of the regulars here. I have never been on a blog before, but have been here for about 6 – 8 months. Do what you gotta do, but know that you have done a great job with this case. My hat is off to you both.

Hey LFJ… hope as is well!

lfj, I don’t think you would be arrested. The worst that could happen is LE could tell you to stop BUT if you get permission say from the businesses to hang on their property, I don’t see how LE could say much about it.

I think PCSO is treading lightly right now anyway as to not garner any more bad publicity on them and their county.

Just be sure you have somebody contact media so they will do a story and get Haleigh’s name back out there. Plus it wouldn’t look good for LE to make you stop when there are cameras rolling.

Thanks WhyLie, I have been thinking about this for about a week. I was thinking of not just Putnam but my county as well. I think the more that get put up the better.

Thank you Jan for letting me know.It was a call an it had Simon,an Jan as the name on it.
So i will have it traced if i can an see where it came from.Because i have never given my phone number on line ever.So some one is up to some devious work it seems.Thanks for letting me know.Im going to get to the bottom of this.An when i do,if i can bring any charges against who did it i will.

Wow That is strange Jan57?
I have had that happen and the reason was that someones cell phone was in their pocket and maybe pressed on the redial or a speed dial #? LoL
But if you’re certain thats not what happened then I’d sure find out who called?

Hey Mrsm,long time no finger,how are ya?

LFJ,hope everything is going good with you and the family. Hi BAC, sorry I haven’t sent your e-mail yet,with the baby and all.I knew you would understand about the shoes.lolHope you are doing ok and your son.Alex,How are you and your Mom doing?

are talking about what was mentioned in the forum?

Looking,is that coffee still hot? LoL
I nned a coffee IV!

Sending a cup your way. Sent.

I caught the clue after i stuck my nose it!

Oh it is so good!!!!
Exactly what I needed,brb ota on the phone…

Seems like the discussion has gone astray from the article. Too bad.

But, I will comment on a Haleigh topic from an above blog, since this is the case: JB said,in September 1st, 2010 at 2:24 pm Tex – would you charge someone if you were still trying to build a case? No.

JB, one of my theory’s is that they are sitting and watching JO to make that arrest. In fact, it could be anyone.
Tobias, I like the 3 roll over theory and rat out the 4th. A lot of threats go on in jail and they may have those in there too, to not rat the real people out and use JO. Who knows.
But I really think Haleigh is alive, and I think someone feels justified in taking her. Someone with a pea brain, that doesn’t see the big picture. We shall see, hopefully.

Jan, it is good to know that you are reading the posts (I assume that from where you answered Jan57). I hope that the good things that everyone has said about you and Simon really make a difference!
In my opinion, you both should really exercise the right to ban the trouble makers more than what has been. It’s probably hard to know sometimes who does it, but it seems to be the same people to me who always get something going through their instigation. (sort of like you know who and pretending they are the good one…its called manipulation).
Can’t you inforce a rule that if you want to go off topic, then go to the forum or just delete the things you think are off topic and warn that person once! It would make it a much more pleasant place to come talk about HALIEGH and her DISSAPPEARANCE.

Please keep letting us know about Haliegh. Don’t let this run you off.

Maybe the mutual friend had a hand in it jan57, ya ‘ think that is a poSsibility?

BAC, I don’t think it was that difficult to pull this caper off. They simply took advantage of the situation of a teenager, who might of propped open the back door to sneak back in after partying, or maybe knew how passed out she was. She possibly woke up and scared them from taking Jr or came home to find Haleigh gone. JO could of been in on the door propping to make his taking stuff look like a robbery to Ron, or any other similar scenarios.
I absolutely can see someone letting this go on forever and ever. They have got what they want. Haleigh away from Ron who won custody, away from Misty that they called momma, and away from the drugs and alleged abuse. People can truly feel justified in committing a crime, because they feel it is the right thing to do. Doesn’t mean they did the right thing though. Big difference.
I know a couple of grandma’s that say they wish they could take their grandkids away from their kids and raise them and if they had a way to take them and hide them or take them to another country, they would. It’s reality. And if their kid’s ex had those grandkids and they didn’t get to see them or thought they may never see them again, and knew their was stuff going on like there was at RC and MC’s MH, well, that might be enough to push them over the edge. That is Motive! Motive for a crime to be committed. Justice in their minds, no matter how wrong. Non custodial abductions are very common.
Just a theory though. I have others on JO and on MC and TC. So, its neither here nor there.

WhyLie, I hope too God that will be the case. Although, it is not what I believe at this moment. I gladly choose to be wrong. To me it is not about whose theory is right or wrong. It is about Haleigh( only) We all have different opinions and convictions on why we feel the way we do. It would help if we had more info, but until that happens it is what it is. WHERE IS HALEIGH!!!!!

Tobias, I have brought up the theory that it was something much bigger than all of what we have thought, that had to do with Haleigh’s dissapearance. Reasons why MC and TC are in the situation they are in, why Ron was put in GP, why they are busting everyone all of a sudden, why they are being so quiet.
Is this along the same lines you are thinking?

JenM I think it is much bigger. I think it is a drug lord. TC,MC and Ron were all put into GP when they were arrested . I think;not sure that Hope and Donna B. was also. Misty is still in GP.

not GP I meant pc for when they all were arrested. Misty is still in PC. Ron went to Gp first and once they transfeered Tommy to Putnam he went to Gp.

Hello Cricket it has been awhile. Excellent post.

I wish I knew the exact ‘doodly squat’ procedure to get an answers as to what happened to little Haleigh.

Goodnight everyone.
Prayers for you Simon and Jan.
WHERES HALEIGH?????

I am reading the old threads at WS again refreshing my memory of what was said by PCSO and stuff and I just read something and thought WTF..Crystal and Marie were on Shep’s show on Fox on the afternoon of the 12th and Crystal said that she had not been given a polygraph yet. 3 days after Haleigh disappears and she hadn’t been given a LDT. That should have been done on the morning of the 10th.

ChattyCathy said,
in September 1st, 2010 at 6:48 pm

m2c said,in September 1st, 2010 at 5:44 pm jaceesmom – A number of people had much the same theory as cathi long before she did and while she had another theory and since then too. And they were/are treated terribly by people here and from other sites. Good gosh.
Aside from the fact that I don’t believe she was attacked for that reason or certainly that would not have been the only reason, I don’t see anyone else being portrayed or portraying themselves as a victim – because our compassion and concern should be focused on Simon and Jan.
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Forgive me but I don’t remember anybody agreeing when I came up with my personal theory of Ron being the man in black? Thats when I was targeted and targeted every waking second and I don’t claim to be a victim M2,HaLeigh is the victim and its the only reason I stuck it out when the BS got so thick you needed rubber boots,It went from everyone speaking to me too everyone basically criticizing the theory and bashing me every chance they got,Thats why I say it changed us,I know it did me? wether you have an idea of how bad it got or not,I know it did and I was the same person the day before that theory and had an entire blog of close friends..and the very next it was all I could do to come here without being attacked just like Jan and Simon,but I still did but i did quit sharing or laughing anymore because it wasn’t fun at all anymore except the few close friends who didn’t have conditions to call me a friend??
So in your world,maybe you just don’t wanna see but I lived it and I still do!
>>>>>>>>>>>.

CC, yes… I believe you were standing alone on that thought/theory!

Simon and Jan ((((Hugs))))
I am here to find HaLeigh, so will take this opportunity too.
The time line that we have worked so hard on gives us a very important clue… THE WINDOW OF OPPoRTUNITY. Now we all have our own theories and I am a pit bull with mine ;), but, I have come to respect many of you that are just as steadfast in yours (JB)! Just think of it like this we can cover all the bases and with our combined efforts, talents and SUPPORTIVE non aggressive arguments can get everyone and all theories obviously a lot further and come to some logical conclusions, than has been achieved in the last 18 months in this ring punching it out. Now, the unproductive is not wanted and that is not meant in a mean way at all, it is time to get serious about finding HaLeigh and save the BS for the haters or do your homework and come and contribute in an effort to FIND HaLeigh not just talk about her! I love the jokes and the personal things sprinkled in, it makes us human and gives us a release on those frustrating days when nothing makes sense(that is every day!). 😉
Now I know Simon and Jan can agree with this change of subject and will agree it would be time that will be well spent if we are not to have another article to comment on. 😉
Beware Simon I might High jack your next unrelated story comment section and call the crew down the rabbit hole..LMAO

http://www.news4jax.com/news/18700310/detail.html

I just wish PCS would come forth an clear some of the things up.At Least let us know that they are still working hard to solve this case.Silence from them is awful.I would never expect them to give up important imfo,that could harm the case.Just reasure us they will not stop untill its solved,an someones charged for the crime-what ever happened.

You know that wasnt a new trailor.An im sure the front front door may have been easier to get into.Someone could have easly slid a knife/DL in an opened it slid in,then left out the back.Because of bringing the child out,to avoid being seen by neighbors.

I would also like to know who the neighbors were who moved.Was it a man,or family. Do we know anything about them.Neighbor hood men have slide in,an abducted children in the past.For sexual crimes.

Nope Jaba the person i know would not do something like that..But i know my number is still on Lisas old phone,which Chelsea has.Im not ruling anyone of them out.But its not the one that is a friend.This call was made yesterday.An i heard the phone ringing.I was just to sick to get to it,it had fallen in my couch.Its will be checked into.If at all possible i will get to the bottom of it.If a tracer can be put on it.I dont play games.A i will not allow someone to do it to me,when using others names to do it.

Just letting all know that was my last post on KP,or Lisa.

From here on out its all about HaLiegh,an what we know so far,an what we believe could have happened.

She is way more important,than anyone who has been a part of this case.Its all about her anyway.So all side shows are over for me ,in discussing them.I want this baby girl found.The truth.No matter what.She was innocent,an what ever happened.It almost 2 yrs now.an all we have is these confession,an no proof.Can we believe that this is what happened.Or is she still out there alive

.I just dont know.But this child captured my heart.An i pray for all the other children in this case.That they are kept up with.An the parents watched to make sure none of the parents are using illegal drugs.That this has been a eye opener to all.

looking for Justice said,
in September 1st, 2010 at 11:13 pm

I know I said goodnight,a thought crossed my mind after getting out of the shower.
LE is starting their timeline with 8pm forward. Asking if anyone saw Misty out that night. ( fact)
Ron and Misty have an argument on the phone about 8:30pm. ( fact: per Ron and his attorney on NG)
LE should have Mistys pings from that 8:30pm phone call whereas to her whereabouts. Correct?
My question is why are they starting the timeline at 8pm?
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Supposedly Misty’s phone was turned off after the fight.That is when Ron called her 20 times,then called Tommy She supposedly turned it back on after 3 when she found Haleigh gone and called Ron. So if it’s turned off there wouldn’t be any pings.They are starting that time line after the time Mrs. Sykes and her companion was at the house. That’s the last time someone other than Misty saw Haleigh.

J, thanks for answering my questions. A friend of mine saw me posting and asking the questions about KP and LC and called me and turned me on to another web site that is basically supporting LC. To say I was shocked is an understatement.

I’m very happy to hear that LC is ok. I was worried for her; however…I am concerned that when she gets up to Mass (if the courts allow her to go and they should if all her fines are now paid by private citizens) she will go back to her old ways of drugging & drinking. Too bad this group of peeps didn’t give her an ultimatum or rehab. I feel they may be enabling her. She is cushy now but once on her own w/family, rest assured she won’t be clean and sober for long. She needs rehab. She cannot become clean w/out it.

I don’t understand why KP would jump in and help. Isn’t she a high powered attorney? It’s a very nice gesture but I have a hard time with the possibility of a hidden agenda.

I certainly hope Jan & Simon don’t allow any doing’s of KP’s to taint them to the point where they stop writing. Jan, I love the way you write. Simon, your writings are always colorful.

Vaq, it still would of pinged her location at the time she was talking/arguing to Ronald.
That call was about 8:30pm.

lfj, My feeling is that LE knows that Misty was at the MH at least up until 8:30 when her phone got turned off. It has been nearly 2 years and LE has not been able to get any real proof that Misty ever left that MH that night. Nobody has pinpointed her not being there, being somewhere else. With that kind of reward money available I would think if somebody could place Misty elsewhere that night they would have. I think with Misty facing pretty much the best years of her life behind bars, if she wasn’t home that night she would have told LE, that would have pretty much cleared her as a participant in what ever it was that happened.

I guess my point is why didn’t LE start their timeline at 8:30pm, if le feels Misty was there up til then?

Good morning, Everyone!

WhyLie, I also thought that at some point LE stated that they based the start of the timeline on NON-related witnesses (not on M and not on AS either). I think they meant the ac guy and a neighbor but they were not specific.

I am not sure who specifically LE was using for the timeline but I do think they were using the time that somebody saw Haleigh, other then Misty, as the starting point of the timeline.

Yes, WhyLie, LE was definitely NOT using M on which to base the starting point of their timeline. I also don’t think they used AS. I will try again to find where they mentioned using Non-related witness(es).

lfj, the call does not prove that Haleigh was alive and well or where she was. It only proves where M’s phone was at that time.

LE starts a timeline at the last point when the victim was seen alive – preferably by an unbiased witness.

So the call would have nothing to do with Haleigh.

WhyLie @ 7:36 – Thank you. I remember thinking when I heard that, that LE may have trumped up the whole thing to goose people into telling about M being somewhere else that night but it didn’t work out for them.

I, too believe Jr would have told – IF he was awake and not knocked out on some sleepy medicine. But more than that I really do believe one of these druggie acquaintances would have spilled the beans if they’d seen M that night. A lot of them have been arrested for stuff since then and it would be the perfect card to play to tell LE that they saw her – but I don’t think anyone did.

M’s whereabouts at 8:30 is not proof that Haleigh was alive and well.

LE has a witness they believe – who saw Haleigh alive and well at 8pm. That is why they start the timeline then. For all they know Haleigh disappeared or was hurt between 8 and 8:30.

The call proves nothing at all except where M’s phone was and presumably where M was.

So if the call shows M was at the MH at 8:30, Haleigh could have been dead or gone by then or maybe M took her (in any condition) somewhere after 8:30pm and that’s why they want to know where she was that night.

Whatever physical evidence to support or nonsupport of Misty’s story found in the home would likely be why they start after AS leaves.

AS saw kids, knows what was happening while she was there. But what was Misty doing after she left. We know what Misty says she was doing, but we don’t know if what she says matches what LE found. Yes, phone may or may not put Misty at MH, but there might be item/s in home that does not match Misty’s scenerio of that timeframe.

The story goes…I put the kids to bed at 8pm.

Who knows what physical evidence LE found or even exactly what they mean by that, but my guess is something red flags between the home as found and the story.

Generally speaking, timelines usually start at the last point there is proof the victim was alive and well. A witness or maybe a security video at a shopping mall. Things like that.

I can’t imagine what “proof” that Haleigh was alive at any point in time could be found in the MH.

lillost1 said,in September 2nd, 2010 at 8:10 am –
You said, “If Misty isnt involded the Tax payers sure should be allowed to know why they have to house a 17 old girl that sold some pills to a u/c at his request. Intrapment in my eyes!”
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Do you believe M was targeted for the drug sting because LE couldn’t prove she had something to do with Haleigh’s disappearance?

Do you believe M’s sentence will be based on assumption of guilt in Haleigh’s disappearance?

Or will the sentence relate only to matters regarding the drug charges?

I’m not challenging you. My answers to the first two questions are – unfortunately – yes. Just curious about your point of view.

M2c, I agree, on no ‘proof’ as to when Haleigh would have been alive, but LE did say they had removed phyiscal evidence from the MH that did not jive with everything else. I have no clue as to what they found or what they mean by whatever it is does did not fit things the way the stories were intitally told to them.

And yes, most cases start at the last time a person who known to be seen. In this case though AS and/or the neighbors seeing and/or being there I think does take on more weight than whatever Misty states/ed especially at the very beginning. LE has said from the beginning Misty’s story itself is not consistent but also things found in the MH…they did not tell what things in MH or how those things would relate.

just saying, the “evidence” that LE may be talking about, that don’t match with what Misty said, could very well be simple things.

Like Misty saying the door was locked but LE found it unlocked with no forced entry.

Misty saying she turned off the lights but LE found the kitchen light on.

Misty at first saying Haleigh was in bed with her then changed that to she was on the mattress on the floor.

Misty got up to go to the bathroom, but instead left the bedroom.

Misty saying Haleigh was wearing a certain piece of clothing but that clothing being found in the laundry basket.

Things like that. I don’t think they found any actual physical evidence that can prove Misty was not at home, or Misty did not go to bed at 10, or Misty did not put the children to bed at 8. If that makes sense.

I agree with you lillost1 at 8:10 am and WhyLie at 8:18

lillost1 said,
in September 2nd, 2010 at 8:10 am
TY I agree she wants to be found!!!!!!!!!!!
I agree the sting was conducted because LE did not have a dang thing.

Good Morning All!
In reading over the posts, it seems that most agree that the children were in bed at 8pm. I have a hard time beleiving that. If we believe AS was there at 7:30 and the children were still eating supper, it doesn’t seem like half an hour was enough time for them to finish eating, bathe and get to bed. I would be interested in knowing if there was phone call from AS to Ron because she may have noticed something, like Misty’s clothes laid out for a night out. This then could have prompted the call of Ron to Misty and then the argument/ jmo

Ms2
Yes I do believe whole heartly that the sting was a result of them (LE) going on a hunch.

I do believe Misty will face an unjust amount of time in jail as will they others for the charges that have been brought before the courts.

I dont why that isnt a story all in itself?

I would fear from this point on for each and every parnet of missing childern.

Do they run the same risk if they awake and find a child missing?

Does anyone know what happened to the sheriffs son when he got busted with that meth lab?

Does he face 15 years plus for having a minor child with him?

If Crystals b/f was down in Putman around 1 he would be getting back around 5 am.

Now whats to say they didnt plan this out in advance and have someone meet them in route back to his home.

He would know that the police would be calling Crystal and he would need to hurry in order to not be caught.

I know in a interview I heard Crystals mom saying that she had a gut feeling Haleigh was out of state and being fed.

Now if this be the case it might explain why they want Ronald held and Misty too.

Not to mention I believe Crystal has issues with Misty for saying that the childern looked at her like she was thier mom.

If any of this makes sence to more then me maybe I am right and someone should do some searching into the other side of this family.

They sure havent acted the way I would act if my little girl was missing.

lillost1- I don’t think Haleigh looked happy in all the pictures. Don’t know where or with who she was with at any time that each picture was taking. But I would not automatically assume she was a happy child or not.
At first all of Ron’s family said how much the children loved Misty and what a wonderful caregiver she was. They continue to say so after Haleigh disappears so what changed for them?
I don’t think LE would advise them to support and speak of Misty positively in public because they (LE) know such statements would come back to bite everyone during a trial should there ever be one! I really would like to know why Ron’s family supported Misty for so long and then what changed to have TN want to see her hang?

Do we know what gas station Chad was seen at?

Hey all, leaving for work again, but glad that someone besides a couple of us are bringing up those points. I want to make a few before I leave:

1. As far as the kitchen light, Misty says she turned all the lights out when she went to bed, but the Kitchen light was ‘on’ when she woke up and found Haleigh gone. I have said all along that the reason it was on was, is because whoever took Haleigh “knew” she was afraid of the dark, so they turned the light on. They also “knew” the back door slammed, that’s why it was propped open, and they also “knew” Misty was a heavy sleeper, and they also “knew” Haleigh and that’s why there was no noise from her!

2. Is it possible that Misty’s phone was ‘turned off’ by someone else? Is it possible that she turned it off and then got busy partying after making the kids go to bed so she could? Is it possible that her phone died and she put it on the charger??? (happens all the time to me).

3. Is it possible that her and Ron got in an argument over her being back at the MH and she better earn her keep and clean the place up and follow the rules! (teenagers hate that). Is it possible that TN was trying to help things by doing some of the laundry, because she knew Ron was struggling and that Misty was a lazy teenager?(yes) Could Misty have started cleaning and throwing clothes to hide them due to knowing Ron would be mad if she hadn’t done what he said? (yes) Teens do that. She made it a point to say she was ‘cleanin’ and made a it a point to say of course she washed a blanket with pee on it…wouldn’t any good g/f do that? (she wanted to be seen in a good light to everyone as not lazy).

3. The drug sting was a case of entrapment in my opinion and if I was on the jury, that is the way I would vote! Were they guilty of using drugs? (yes) but not to the extent that LE would like us to believe. The sentencing is outrageous too and I believe is connected to the Haleigh case. They certainly have the mentality of ‘we are gonna get them to talk one way or the other’. Uh, can we say wrong?!

4. Again, MC and TC are not masterminds who plotted the perfect crime of the century with no proof, no evidence, no body, and have managed to fool the FBI and LE for 2 years. Someone came in and removed her. My opinion is that they were coming back for Jr, when Misty woke up and foiled the plan. (Maybe the squeaking he heard was “wet shoes from coming in from the river”. (*haven’t heard that one from anyone) I still believe she left by way of boat. (neighbors testify that they would of heard a car or anyone in the area that night). It would be the perfect way to get her out of there.

Just my opinion.

Have a great discussion today. Find Haleigh.

Texasmommy39

I dont know what gas station. And Isure dont understand the delay in getting there.

6.5 hours just seems very slow and I dont know why it would take so long when its thier flesh and blood child and grandchild to go missing.

lillost1 😉 you know why it took so long and so does everyone else. It seems I interupted ya’ll chat this morning. Sorry.
JFI if you focus on this family be prepared to have the facts (if you can find them) and a backbone to with stand the heat or being ignored.

In the photos I’ve seen, Haleigh looked happy with R – to me. Some people don’t agree. Fine. Matter of opinion. Proves nothing.

Your other point, Alex, “At first all of Ron’s family said how much the children loved Misty and what a wonderful caregiver she was. They continue to say so after Haleigh disappears so what changed for them?”
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Most people would not jump to the conclusion that someone they know, maybe care for, who’s cared for their g-kids and appeared to love them would be responsible for something so awful. Why should they have jumped all over her right away? Especially publicly. LE was doing a fine job of working over M with 30 hours of interrogation etc and no results.

I think it’s perfectly possible that TN and AS were in as much shock as everyone else and didn’t know what to think. But later, LE wore them down as they did so many other people with their relentless ‘M’s the key” carp. They learned more, were beaten down by LE’s position on it and finally had to wonder.

I see nothing sinister or guilty in that at all. In fact it’s seems very human to me.

Ya’ll have a great day!

m2c- I don’t think, and I could be wrong, that TN & AS ever liked Misty. They tolerated her for Ron’s sake. I think the reason they no longer babysat was because they wanted to make things so hard on Misty that she would leave. I can’t see AS leaving the children in her care for any other reason but to teach Ron & Misty a lesson. Heck, she was still doing the children’s laundry!

Just-saying- I don’t know how to read body language but I do know people can keep a straight face while lying, they can cry and sometimes produce tears. That being said, I think TN was serious regarding Misty’s faith!

WhyLie- Not in all of her pictures.

jmo and I know it isn’t going to be popular, I feel TN made that statement about Misty because she blames Misty for the position Ron is currently in.

Granny 23 said,in September 2nd, 2010 at 9:44 am One thing I keep thinking is that Ron’s mom and grandma changed their mind about Misty after the Croslin “stories” came out. JMO
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I think that’s very possible. Up to then M didn’t know anything. Then she started telling awful stories. What would anyone think at that point?
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Alex, you said, “TN blames Misty for the position Ron is currently in.”

I think that’s very possible and very natural. Most moms will think the best of their child or at least favor them over another when a problem comes up with a boy/girl friend. Nothing sinister to me. More natural.

That’s ok, just-sayin. Sometimes I think expressions I see have relevant meaning and sometimes I don’t. But peoples’ opinions about that can be different.

m2c- Do you think if it turns out that Ron is the responsible one for Haleigh’s disappearance that TN would want Ron to face the same faith as wants for Misty?

Just saying I thought that interview was odd. TN said if this story is true then Misty needs to be hung. Why only Misty? In Mistys account of the story all she did is grab Jr. and hide under covers. Joe is the perp that allegedly murdered her granddaughter, not to mention Tommy was on the ride along for the disposal. I do not believe this story myself.jmo

That interview was done on August 18th, 2010

I dont think anybody would ever want to beleive somebody they knew could be capable of hurting a child. I think TN told her feelings about Misty honestly in the beginning, but then I thought perhaps she was putting it on a little thick to try and gain Mistys confidence to get the story out of her.

Heard a lot of naysayers say those photos were ‘planned’, set up to show DCS how happy Haleigh was with her dad. Those pictures in no way look set up to me at all. Haleigh looked genuinely very happy in those pictures. You cant fake a 5 yr olds enthusiasm.

Some things on those tv entertainemt shows are pre planned as is the story content. Guests usually are handed an outline/rough draft of what the topic is and also will go as far as to prep their guests with information and questions the host or hostess will use. the coordinators will pre prompt guests to get a reaction. Happens all the time. It is not cold filming.

I was reading through prior interviews last night and came across yet another interesting piece of information. Remember all the doubt Chelsea had about Joe O. from the beginning? In an interview with AH at a later date, that are in his transcripts from last year, she was saying how Joe could do no wrong and he was such a nice guy. I just dont understand why somebody who isnt a direct part of what happened would keep switching her stories left and right.

I agree with you Lady day.

When LE has NO forensics to prove a crime or who is responsible, then they NEED a confession, thus we have the Croslins accounts of what happened. Misty and Tommy have been pressured from all sides–LE, their attorneys, and their own family to “TELL THE TRUTH.” But their accounts are nothing more than “false confessions” wrangled from them by overzealous cops. Notice their minimal participation in the crime–that’s a tactic LE uses to suggest to them a scenario that implicates them in the crime, but with very little involvement on their parts. Neither one says “I did it”, but just they witnessed it. These people are easily suggestible and manipulated and LE “pinched” them until they come up with this story. Granted this story has been picked apart by us and can be disproven by the evidence. They searched the river and found nothing to conclusively put Haleigh in that water(yet shortly after LE deems this a homicide). These confessions have been made public and released to the media (by their own attorneys)–I ask who actually allows that to happen when there is an ongoing investigation (and according to the account the main one responsible (JO) is still running free)? LE has not been able to find this child for over 18 months, so NOW it becomes paramount for someone to implicate themselves in this crime, and Misty and Tommy have. Case closed? Not by a long shot..but Misty and Tommy will probably face charges in this case and more than likely be convicted by an unsuspecting public that wants NOTHING more than to see someone held responsible for this crime. Some see this case as all ready over with this incarceration for the drugs..I see it as just beginning..There will be NO justice or peace for Haleigh until all aspects of this case are put under the microscope and all people withstand the scrutiny that Misty and Tommy have. The pressure “Inside the BOX” (the interrogation room) can and does spit out “false confessions” and in my opinion that is what happened here. JMO

m2c to be fair in THs statement on the 18th of August it was not a figure of speech for her. She said that Misty needed to be taken out to the town square and given an ole fashioned hanging. Quite descriptive.

hey Looking,hey all,lol

JenM said,in September 1st, 2010 at 10:18 pm …Maybe a certain someone thinks that Lisa knows something and will confide in them if they help her??? Just a thought. Slime is slime when it comes to winning.

I read your comments, JenM. 🙂 I agree with this one, in particular! Thanks.

Exactly Looking?
imo they didn’t want Misty looked at because it would lead to them?? They made that obvious! jmo

Looking,when you can,lets go over to the forum and I’ll help you do what we talked about in email?? lol

just-saying said,in September 2nd, 2010 at 10:27 am CC, in the ‘interview’ Teresa was being asked about what was currently being said by Misty. I think, as all I kept seeing was the brief clips of TN and her response to a question…I did not see the entire question and answer session (maybe someone else did if they caught it like on the local news).

I can’t say TN was only thinking MC should be the one and only person hung. I believe from what I saw, TN was being asked a specific question and was giving a specific response to the direct question. But again, imo.
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Worth repeating. It also applies to most of the comments that get interpeted and disected.

Alex, many many times I have said that I have about six theories and one of them has R being responsible in some way. I can’t help it if the REASONS that some people have to support that kind of theory do not appear to me to be substantive.

To try to be clear: I can agree to it in theory but I don’t see much to support it. Certainly not enough or the kind of thing that would make me say “Oh, yeah, I really believe this.”

Ahem! Many opinions are fine. Actually, many opinions are good, because they make us think logically. Everyone has opinions and everyone is entitled to them. Just because someone else has a different opinion, it doesn’t mean that yours isn’t worthy or well stated. Don’t take it personally if someone thinks differetly than you do. Others read these comments who may appreciate your words but never speak up.

And back to the main topic of Simon’s article. I can fully understand your frustration and upset at attacks on Jan. Jan is a very smart and caring individual. This comes across as clear as day in her articles and I, as well as many, respect her and admire her for it. All I can do is to remind you that there are idiots as well as decent people out there in the blogging world. Although it’s hard, it’s best to completely ignore the idiots. Even if they have idiot groupies that go along with them.

The intelligent people will hear the truth. I do hope that you will reconsider and resume after taking a break, but will completely understand if you don’t. What you have given us is a gift and we are appreciative. I really do feel that it has been a help to finding little Haleigh because it has kept her name out in the public eye – just as you meant it to do.

If you do decide to continue with the Haleigh articles and radio discussions, just keep reminding yourself – IGNORE THE DUFUSES! IGNORE THE DUFUSES! IGNORE THE DUFUSES!

Couldnt agree more, Aligoo. If somebody researched the information out there about a certain individual nothing more would need to be said and we can all move on and Simon and Jan could continue with their untireless work on this matter and not be fearful of attacks. Itll happen no matter what so move on and keep up with the great reporting and caring feelings for Haleigh and many others.

Quite frankly, I am shocked that another person who worked so hard for a degree didnt check out the particulars. Stupid is as Stupid does I guess.

I just went through my pics of Haleigh, I have a bunch, the only ones I have of her, that I saw in my folder, with her wearing a green shirt, were pics of her at the park, pics of her at Christmas, and pics of her on her first day of school.

CC, Ron was not the only person in Haleigh’s life that could have been abusing her. To me that is why the pics are relevant. In those pics, and in the descriptions people have given about Haleigh, there is no indication of abuse, physical or sexual.

We have conducted formal interviews with 76 different individuals who were identified as having possible information in the Haleigh investigation. DNA samples were collected from many of those interviewed and compared to evidence collected in the case.

Snpped from LE post at the 1 year mark. Some want to say LE has no evidence but here it says they have DNA evidence they haveyet to find a match for. So I wonder what this DNA IS?
bLOOD, SALIVA, HAIR, OTHER BODY FLUIDS? WHAT COULD IT BE? JMO

I am so hungry i could eat a horse with the hair on him!

Me and Looking were in the forum,sorry.rofl,thought i typed that into that post and didn’t see it and now i know why,LMAO

Tobias–They have DNA evidence they have NO match for..WOW! Then why would they care about what Misty and Tommy have to say. Misty can not be the “key” if they have DNA–the match for that DNA is the “key” and yet they also have ruled out “stranger abduction”? It boggles the mind! Thanks for the info, by the way. JMO

lillost1 said,
in September 2nd, 2010 at 8:10 am

Google it and see its a 4 hr drive if Im correct.
I dont know about anyone else but me and I know if that was my little girl I would have made it there in less time unless the police pulled me over and took my car.

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(Cut a piece of your post)

From Crystal’s home in Baker County to Satsuma is actually approximately a 2 hour drive, not 4. Driving in the middle of the night when your child is missing, Crystal could have made it there in an hour and a half (at LEAST!)

I agree with you. I would have been packing a bag for my other child while on the phone receiving the initial call, grabbing my car keys and hauling butt to Putnam County. Not waiting over an hour to call my mother who lives on the same property next door.

Just so ya guys know and hopefully Jan sees,there are people from another site over in the forum and posting the forum link on another site??

If they have DNA evidence and still have no match to it then it sounds like it wasn’t somebody who is part of the family and was in the MH regularly.

Maybe a bunch of thug dealers? who knows?

Granny 23 said,in September 2nd, 2010 at 9:44 am

One thing I keep thinking is that Ron’s mom and grandma changed their mind about Misty after the Croslin “stories” came out. JMO

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My opinion sure as hell changed. I was one of the most ardent Misty supporters in the beginning. That sure changed last fall.

Some people think that once you say something you are locked into that, but people change their minds as new facts become available.

I think that is exactly what TN and Mrs Sykes did..change their minds and opinions of Misty as they learned new things.

I think its normal that there might be a picture of afew of Haleigh where she might not look happy, I would find it very strange if there wasnt any infact she is a human and Im sure she had moments that she didnt smile.

For the most part though from what I seen Ronald and his family kept her and jr clothed happy and fed. She looked to me like she loved her Dad awhole bunch and vise versa.

I guess I want to believe someone stole her atleast that way I would know she “might” someday be found.

I feel that all the leads in the case have not been looked at.
I mean how many sex affenders in that area and all where ruled out in such a short time?

Look all I am thinking is that so far I see no results in this case at all.
I also see not too many people trying to find ansewers and that worries me to no end,
I believe “us” as a group need to stand hard fast to what we believe and agree to disagree on some topics but lets not forget or give up on why we are here.

Simon and Jan please I beg of you both to leave the blog running on Haliegh she really needs someone in her corner.

Is there no one left taht is willing to go hunt the area for Haleigh?
Is there no funds left from the Haleighbug center to hire a new set of eyes and breath some new life into this story.

Lets all remeber this story isnt about Misty Ron,Crystal, Tommy none of them matter right now.
Its not about Lisa and Hank or Kim its about a baby that needs your help.

She only needs to be found she dont need us all fighting and I question anyone who would try and cause trouble for people that are trying nothing but to find out where Haleigh is at tonight.

Thise people for some reason aim to Hush her Voice again from the world.
I say we scream it aloud that this will not happen.
Her Voice will be heard and her story told.
She is worth the fight I just hope no one here will give up on her yet.
God Bless all and please keep your minds open to each other.
Between us all we must be smart enough to figure out away to help this baby.

Does Florida take DNA samples of anyone convicted of a felony?

I believe DNA is taken from all convicted felons in Florida. I think there may be some misdemeanor charges where DNA is also collected.

I sometimes wonder if LE isnt waiting for somebody to make a move, say the wrong thing or do the wrong thing, I mean outside of the incarcerated ones. The most experienced criminal is never perfect, more often than not something eventually links the crime to a POI. In this, I cannot beleive that this bunch are that bright to get away with this. Even with the blatant news from two lawyers that point the finger right back to Joe, look how much time has expired since that story came out and is Joe in jail or being questioned again? No. I bet to this day people are still being watched by ways not so obvious to the general public. Whatever happened, this will NEVER go away until we see some type of satisfaction. Whoever else is involved, will always have to look over their shoulder. I hope it eats them up alive.

where could Heliegh be?
has anyone been tp Putman or does anyone live there that has been to or around the MH? I was just wondering if it’s possiable that Heliegh was placed near the MH? I just don’t see that group taking her far.

Jaceesmom, that area is surrounded by woods,the st.Johns river and swamp areas. There is so many places they could of put her.

Excuse me, I am sorry to interrupt.

Will the good members of the Forum please go over there and read my last post. Thank you.

OH YES, I am beyond mad.

You need to email Jan at jannyo@yahoo.com

WOW We sure are getting more people posting and discussing the case maybe we should be thankful for all the hits and added dicussion when its such a quiet time???
Would anyone like to give an opinion on what they believe will happen when Ron goes in to be sentenced? Will it be the 15 everyone else is getting or more??? jmo

Finally got it! Just waiting for approval to post in forums. I have been around for over a year. Just typically do not have much to say. I enjoy reading most every one’s comments, opinions, theories etc.

Thank you Looking

I think Ron will get 15. Now Misty, what she will get is a total crap shoot.

I meant “he” pled, not “I” pled, lol.

I agree WhyLie, Donnas lawyer tried to get less but Burgess said she did not think she could go any lower than the min/man and She got 15

LOL, I can see the tweets flying now!

can you imagine those hot flashes!

I still wonder why she did not get additional charges to the one trafficking charge?

tobias said,in September 2nd, 2010 at 4:06 pm Thelma and Louis= Donna and Misty lol
Lady and the tramp= dont know who would qualify for the lady .
10 easy steps not to be successful?
Tinkerbelle meets Maude?
OOPS that would be adult reading only. jmo

How about Dumb and Dumber?

lol!!!

Dumb dumber and dumbo. lol got have some comic relief. jmo

tobias said,in September 2nd, 2010 at 4:12 pm Dumb dumber and dumbo. lol got have some comic relief. jmo

Dayum! I forgot about Tommy!

We should have sent the judge a pic of Donna flipping the bird during a photo shoot at a missing child search. Maybe then the judge could see just what a “good” volunteer Donna is.

No if they are sentenced in Florida, they serve their sentence in Florida.

So lets see, an alternative timeline:

3:30 pm – 3:45 pm – someone picks Haleigh up from the bus stop (at different times TN said she picked Haleigh up at 3:30, Ron said he picked Haleigh up at 3:45, neighbors that were at the bus stop said Misty picked Haleigh up)

4:00 pm – 4:45 pm – Ron leave the MH to go to “werk”.

5:00 pm – ???? pm – Ron calls Misty upwards of 20 times.

8:30 pm – ??? pm – Ron calls Tommy

3:00 pm – Ron says he left work

5:00 pm – 3:00 pm – according to some rumors Ron was seen by different people out and about Palatka – so if we believe all rumors at some point during this time Ron actually left work and may or may not have returned.

3:35 pm – Ron says he got home from “werk”

3:37 pm – 911 call made

TN never said she picked up Haleigh from the bus stop.

I just placed a link in the forum. It states LE stated Ron called Misty 20 times but could not reach her. You will see that title on the page of the link.I think it is safe to call that a fact now.

Looking? You mean to tell me that he didn’t call her 98 times,wowwwww……LoL

We have not seen LE say that yet, but LOL!!!!

OH Chatty! I can CCP!! Thank you very much!

TJ Hart said that LE told him that TC claimed to have gone to the MH in the 10:00 hour, which would be between 10 and 11. I trust that is what LE told TJ.

If Im not mistaken, I had heard this ’90 phone calls’ business said in a flippant way by a Good Ol’ Boy. I dont think he started the rumor, and the tape I heard could have been edited, but said it in a way like one would say ‘she used a ton of hairspray on her hair’ or ‘She used 20 lbs of make-up on her face’, it was just a figure of speech, but somebody else ran with it as fact and now it makes it as fact since its in the media? I dont think so.

ty TEX IT IS THE BEST. LOL WHOEVER WROTE IT IS AN ARTIST.LOL

tm39- that was great! thank you for the laugh!

LadyDay that was actually a joke between Chatty and I in the above post.

LFJ, I wonder who else he called or was it just Misty? Remember they have all his phone pings for that night. It would be strange if he made no other calls, wouldnt it? jmo

Talk to ya all in the morning. Pray for Haleigh.

OMG! TexasMommy – I think we all needed that fantastic comedic relief!

Sorry, Looking for Justice. Just get fed up with that AH banter and now others have taken up not only the 90 call chant, but has turned to 98. Lets make it an even 100, shall we? Never mind, AH probably has already done that by now.

Looks like some big changes are going on with Tommy’s sentencing:

File Date: 01/21/2010
Judge: TERRY J LARUE
Case Status: REOPENED CASE
Defense Atty: WERTER, JAMES S
Case File Location: CRIMINAL DIVISION

Defendant: CROSLIN, HANK T JR
Alias: No Alias Records

08/17/2010 62 MOTION FOR MODIFICATION OF SENTENCE

08/25/2010 63 ORDER OF DRUG OFFENDER PROBATION

08/26/2010 65 NOTICE OF HEARING SET ON 10/04/2010 AT 03:00

08/27/2010 64 NOTICE OF HEARING SET ON 10/04/2010 AT 03:00

09/01/2010 66 MOTION TO TRANSPORT PRISONER

Looks like Tommy’s sentence is being changed to probation.

What they heck is going on? Why all these changes?

LadieSadie did you check Mistys. Tobias says there is changes in hers as well.

TM39- too funny!

LadySadie- What do the changes mean? Are there any chages to Hope’s docket?

Thanks Ladyday. Do you think he will get it?

LookingForJustice@9:56 pm. Ronald could have made 90-strike that 98 calls with-in a twenty four hour period, but he must have an awfully long power cord for his phone or something more powerful than an energizer bunny under that battery flap. Then all that noise coming from his skip loader or whatever it was he was using at work.

Just to clarify, I meant the banter AH creates either on his blog or when hes on tv. Not the banter all of us share from time to time.

Thinking out loud…I am wondering if the shemale benefactortress could es’plain herself on that wonderful and delightful page(s) that TM provided to us. I need to let the person who wrote it know that the color cannot be found at the Walmart(theres THAT name again!)It looks like Matrix brand Beachy Blonde.

Tommy already was sentenced to 10 years drug offender probation AFTER his 15 years. Prison time is mandatory.

Tommy’s sentence (not including fines)

8/06/2010 55 15 YEARS DOC WITH 197 DAYS CREDIT FOLLOWED BY
08/06/2010 55 10 YEARS DRUG OFFENDER PROBATION

Tommy’s attorney filed a motion to modify his sentence. Pretty basic stuff (and useless)

08/17/2010 62 MOTION FOR MODIFICATION OF SENTENCE
08/25/2010 63 ORDER OF DRUG OFFENDER PROBATION
08/26/2010 65 NOTICE OF HEARING SET ON 10/04/2010 AT 03:00
08/27/2010 64 NOTICE OF HEARING SET ON 10/04/2010 AT 03:00
09/01/2010 66 MOTION TO TRANSPORT PRISONER

He is not getting out of prison. 😉

I know I will be blasted for this but I feel we all need to stop with this Kim P stuff.(JMO) I don’t defend her at all and I really hate the stuff she has said about Simon/Jan…but to revel in her misfortunes makes us just as bad as her. She has kids and they will read this stuff. She and her husband have obviously made a mess of their life.

Jan/Simon – I am really not defending anything she has done to you. This is just getting all too ugly for me.

tobias said,
in September 2nd, 2010 at 8:40 pm
Tobyimo said,
in September 2nd, 2010 at 8:50 pm
Alexandria Loring said,
in September 2nd, 2010 at 9:01 pm
robin said,
in September 2nd, 2010 at 9:12 pm
LadyDay said,
in September 2nd, 2010 at 9:39 pm
Alexandria Loring said,
in September 2nd, 2010 at 10:03 pm
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Ya’ll are very welcome. 😉
I have to say this plot is thicker than I suspected. I don’t know about all of you, but, again I question what all this has to do with HaLeigh?
Do I dare say what I think about all this BS? Nope, it is not worth the effort when it seems everyone is again playing games to justify their dirty deeds.
MONEY is the root of all evil and the shade that the sweet as cyanide benefactor of Kim’s has pointed out. Now I would like to know where it has been stated KP was seeking revenge against CS in her agenda in Satsuma? Is this the truth of the matter?
Seems like money and revenge has been a common theme aside from the drugs. It also appears those drug charges and sentencing are still up in the air for the three that have been in this up to their eye balls.
Food for thought.

WhyLie said,
in September 2nd, 2010 at 3:52 pm

Donna can write a book now that she’ll have plenty of time, hmmm, how about “Menopause Behind Bars”
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Undercover Mamma Goes to the Big House

😀

I don’t mean to be blasting you in any way, JillF. In principle, I agree with your point. In practice, I guess I’m a little wishy-washy on it!

JillF I have to be honest I agree, but, it is a good thing we are witness to this side of the story and its ugly truths. This is not our fight and never was, but, some how we have been along for the ride and I am ready for this ride to be over and done with.

Texasmommy39. Its a chance for some to go from bottom rung to grabbing the brass ring, and somebody in the middle has probably opened promised this, but the brass in this case is made of copper and will turn ones neck a putrid green, its more than that, much more than a possible 6 to 12 show contract with a media outlet. It is more than being promised maybe a shot at an open chair gig on one of the many programs (cough, cough) in the near future, its more than trying to get on Team (insert name of choice here) if anyone is ever formally charged for accessory or whatever to the Haleigh case. Im afraid somebody is going to try and ante up more money and try to get Misty out of jail or at least get her time cut way down. I have my own suspicions. It has absolutely nothing to do with Haleigh unfortunately, but has a lot to do with wanting, commanding absolute presence, being so cut throat to reach whatever plateau they think they are going to reach. Allocades and Celebrity is a wonderful thing, but it has to be earned to be accepted and recognized by peers.

I want so bad to spit something out that came to mind as clear as a shot, but I cannot. Some things are best left unsaid. Ill go back to sitting on my hands now.

Never forget the main reason why we are here. Haleigh. First, Foremost and Always.

Goodnight.

Can anyone here from this site help with a search if one was set up?

Can or would we be allowed to look for Haleigh or do we need someones permission to help find a missing child.

I see many people stating they would do anything to get to the bottom of this story and find out what took place.

I am sick of no one looking for Haleigh and the one person I thought for sure was would search is now locked away for many years to come.
Ronald Cummings.

Is there anyway a search can be brough about if not to find a smiling Haliegh then to recover her and bring her on home to her resting place.

Ethier way to me that would be the first and formost justice we could offer this baby.

lillost1- Ron had the opportunity to search but, jmo, he searched the way Casey Anthony did!
So I don’t think he would be much help!

JillF- We are not laughing at misfortune but style of writing. While the articles give us a chuckle they also give us motive for involvement in this case.

WhyLie- I saw a picture of him on a horse & one on an ATV, but again jmo, if it wasn’t for the horse & atv, I don’t think he would have been out there at all!

Amen to that, m2c!

Hi, Simon!

I admire and respect that you do not appreciate people bashing Jan, your wife. My husband is the same way. If he caught me crying and found out why (like you did Jan), look out guilty party!

I read some comments on what I consider a trash site. I normally would not click on that site but I wanted to see exactly what was being said. A commenter on another site mentioned the filthy comments and I thought, “No, decent people would not do that.” Well, trash does!
Sick comments! Sick, hateful people!

I am appalled that adults use such filthy language and would post such trash for the world to see. I know they would not do that in person; not if they did not want to get a defamation of character and/or slander lawsuit filed against them.

There are some sites I will not click on because they are riddled with rumors, lies, filthy language and are what I consider trash.

Jan and Simon, I enjoy your articles and Simon, I love when you write some of your articles with a sense of humor. You are not main stream media and as an independent, you can tell it like it is!

Jan, you write so many of your articles from the heart and with compassion. The missing are so fortunate to have you and Simon giving them exposure.

I look forward to your articles and I love your Sunday Radio Show. I hope there will be a show this Sunday!

Now for my sense of humor . . . what little skill I had on Live Chat may be forgotten! I might be back to Square 1 and I will surely be left in the dust if there are a lot of folks on the Live Chat! Oh, no!

Simon and Jan, thank you for the tremendous amount of work you put into Haleigh’s case. For example, I know it was very time consuming in converting the jail tapes so they could be made available to us on this site.

I am aware you derive no money from writing articles on the various cases. However, time spent on these cases is time you could be spending on things that you do for a living and that generates money. After all, you do have to eat and like many, you have to pay the bills!

I know you reported on the side shows to keep Haleigh’s name “out there”. Unless the maternal side of Haleigh’s family start doing some stupid, dumb things then there really is nothing to report about. The druggies on the paternal side of the family are a guest of the gray bar hotel!

I hope Haleigh is found and her case can be closed. God bless Haleigh!

Robin- I was responding to another blogger who felt that the only one he/she felt would search for Haleigh was Ronald and now he is locked away. My sister’s youngest son went missing and we were all out within minutes of finding out he was missing. He was found a day later emotionally damaged but physically okay. That was the worst 37 hours of my sister’s life.
I don’t think because you have a rap sheet that you are necessarily guilty of a crime but I do think that some of the things people do put them in danger as well as innocent family members. I know from the Jessica Lunsford case that the wrong person can be looked at. As to LDT, VST etc. they are just tools but I find them no more reliable then a stressed out confession. Going on a drug run when you have one child missing and another that needs you speaks volumes to me about what is important to a person.

So whats up with Tommys resentencing hearing on the 4th of October? Are they going to get a reduction in years for the drugs? I wonder what is going on behind the scenes? hmmmm. jmo

Alex, lillost1 did not say “the only one she thought would search.” She said, “the one person I thought for sure would search…” (lillost1 said,in September 3rd, 2010 at 1:45 am)

I believe there’s a difference but we’d have to ask lillost1.
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Also, when a terrible thing happens to a mobster’s child, or a dirty politician’s or a quack doctor’s or a warlord’s child, it doesn’t mean they did it or that they don’t grieve like a “normal” person would. It also doesn’t mean they suddenly and miraculously “go straight.” Maybe they should (we think) but they don’t. That would be a very rare, I think.

I was thinking last night that all partys involved in this lie so much that I believe they buried Heliegh, since they keep saying she was throw in the pond or water. how far do you think they would beable to carry her? or do you think they would of taken her else where?

m2c- I’m sorry if I misunderstood but in that sentence she said “I am sick of no one looking for Haleigh and the one person I thought for sure wuold search is now locked awa…”

I agree with you that that people don’t suddenly go straight but …. maybe best left unsaid!

Well, that is great news I think.
Also, I don’t compare RC to Casey A. She didn’t even report her child missing for 31 days and was out partying and celebrating like nothing ever happened. RC’s situation is totally different. He has to go on with his life at some point (what ever his life is) and that’s what he was doing. He was greiving. Because he is obviously addicted to drugs, does not mean he doesn’t love his children or that he is not greiving.
I think if someone called me and told me my child was missing, I wouldn’t turn over and go back to sleep and then show up on the scene 8 hours later bombed out my mind…..

Anyway, as far as MC goes…does anyone recall her saying that she remembers a “rose” (plastic/fake, I think) at a site in the woods? Is it possible that Haleigh was buried? Truly? Maybe the “thrown in the river” was said to “throw them off the real site”?? Maybe Misty was so drugged up she doesn’t remember all of it…it may be a total blur to her, especially with all the brainwashing that child has endured all her life from f’d up adults!! Sad.
Yes, maybe the fog has lifted, maybe she truly has found the Lord in her heart and is telling what she knows???
After all, sexually abused people have a different way of thinking about things and sometimes this alerts you to the fact. If a child is convinced that they will be harmed or their family will be tortured and killed, that will set in their brains and they will never tell. According to Misty, she would tell of her sexual abuse and she was not beleived, in fact, she says she was blamed herself for what happened. This is very common with the victim of abuse. Over time, it becomes a ‘learned response’ in which it does not do any good to tell anyone anything, because the blame will always come back to you.
Thus we see MC staying stoic and strong, that she will never tell, because they are just going to blame her anyway, so what’s the use? Why tell and then get blamed and have everyone hate you for telling on them? Makes no sense to an abused person. They already are trying to please everybody and have a lot of self guilt and shame, depression and low self esteem.
MC was happy when she was getting married. It not only helped her self esteem, but it let others know that no matter what has happened to her, somebody loves her and she is worth marrying, no matter how much she was sexually abused.

So, she will hold out, protect herself, and let the other person be found out, without her help!

Anyway, just some deeper thought/ideas that come to mind. A few things to ponder on the psychological side of things (which is what drives people’s actions).

I hope the court dates have meaning Tobias.

Iwouldnt be surprised if Donna doesnt do the same. The judge did say she couldnt give her less than the min. but if she does what Tommy is doing she may get a lighter senttence in the end. jmo

JenM- Idisagree with you about the comparison of RC & CA. I think there are numerous similarities between them. No one was aware of Caylee being missing except Casey, in Ron’s case the disappearance couldn’t be hidden especially due to the school issue. I don’t think Crystal is much better, unless she believed the court ruling that the children were being placed with Ron as it was in their best interest.
In looking at this from hindsight all the mistakes are glaring.
I do recall some mention of a rose but not sure what it was in relation to.

Ialso think she was listening to fellow jail mates and since she was the first to go to court also. If this was my daughter I would have been more involved in her case too. jmo

I’m confused (as usual). Does Tommy go before the same judge? Why would he get a reduction when the judge voiced his obvious disdain of Tommy doing the drug scene while there was an investigation going on for that missing little girl?

Hope also had drug charges pending so this coud be why she was not affered the YO. She should have stayed out of trouble when she was out on bail. jmo

tobias- I know Hope is Ron’s cousin but was she a friend of Misty’s too?

tobias- Wasn’t Tommy also on bail or probation ? Have they ever released the undercover videos with him?

I thought her fines were paid? Or is this something different? Why would the book her? jmo

I thought she was doing well under the care of a kind hearted person? Wow, I kinda was hoping she would at least make it to Mass. jmo

Should have added that Simon and Jan do not need any validation where I am concerned.

Well, I just guess there is going to be more backlash now towards kind hearted benefactoress. Let the nickle and diming of bond amounts begin, not to mention fodder.

Sitting back on hands now and smiling.

I’m still not on the same page as most here.
I don’t find anything that proves or even holds a strong valid argument that any family members around Haleigh are involved in her disappearance.I mean that in terms of her being physically taken. Morally it can be argued with merit that several persons played a part that set the stage for this horrific crime to happen. Also with merit it can be argued that Neglect played a part in setting the stage for this to happen. Right now LE has to find out what happened to her that night. As a parent I would need concrete evidence before I would accept and believe my child is deceased. I would not rest or give up until I had that proof. As an outsider I can’t phantom why any one would admit to being present where a crime of this nature happened if it never happened. With that said reasonable thinking is telling me there must be something to the story MC and TC are telling. I think Crystal has every right to attend any and all hearings if she likes regarding the persons who are allegedly involved in her daughter’s disappearance. No matter her mistakes she has the right to do the right thing by her child and to fight for Justice for her daughter, more so than any of us that is for sure. I think it’s sad that the families can’t get past their own short comings enough to escape them by pointing at the other one. Together they could accomplish far more in terms of searches fund raisers etc that could lead to the proof they all so desperately seek. The whole current situation is very unfortunate.

Simon & Jan,

I don’t fully understand what has happened here, but I do know that you and Jans hearts are in the right place. I cannot say the same for Trish. ($) I do hope that you and Jan return soon for selfish reasons. I enjoy listening to your show. Also, the people you try to help, countless. Thank you.