The average School Bus is 40 feet long and about 8 feet wide. That makes for an area about 320 square feet. I have had a bit of a problem establishing the exact ground clearance of these vehicles, but to make it simple lets go with 12 inches. If we go with this approximation we discover that there is an amazing 320 cubic feet of space under the bus.
A bit of digging around online reveals that most people are about 5 cubic feet. So simple math reveals that you can get some 64 people under the average bus! Of course Humans are not packaged in convenient Cubic Footage, so 64 might be a bit of a stretch. Plus there are the wheels, axles, and other stuff under the bus so I personally do not believe that 64 is a reasonable number. But, I think it is fair to say that you can fit a bunch of people under a bus.
The Croslin family though, seem determined to try and make it to the Guinness Book Of Records for the ‘Most people Under A Bus’ category. I cannot understand why the Croslin family have found the need, but they certainly have.
The search for missing Haleigh Cummings has brought out the worst in in the family’s involved, and none more so than the Croslin clan. So who is under the bus so far?
Well we can always start with Cousin Joe (Joe Overstreet). Cousin Joe seems to have a somewhat checkered past his rap sheet is extensive burglaries and thefts being his specialty, and my sources are telling that along the was he managed to commit some sort of sexual offense. Cousin Joe was one of the first to be thrown under the bus by the rest of the family. To assist in the character assassination Tommy Croslin and Ronald Cummings have reportedly said that Cousin Joe liked to watch the alligators devour deer and other animals, he thought it was cool!
Next up is brother Tommy, he initially was thrown under the bus by Misty over the fist fight with Ronald Cummings, an event that likely sparked Ratgate. Misty obtaining the Restraining order against him ensured a reserved spot under the bus. Then, in a lemming like action threw himself back under the bus by getting arrested on the theft and gun charges.
Misty Croslin is of course a founding member of the under the bus gang. Virtually all of the family members at one time or another has thrown her under it. The latest being Tommy with his revelation that she was not home on the night Haleigh went missing. Misty also shares Tommy’s Lemming like traits and has thrown herself under the bus on numerous occasions.
Brother Timmy is also a card carrying member of the Under The Bus Club, his most recent visit being precipitated by police complaint being files by Ronald Cummings.
That leaves Ma and Pa Croslin, you do not hear too much about this pair and in the general mayhem being created by the rest of the family, have survived relatively unscathed, and in an attempt to distance themselves from the dreaded bus have quietly moved to Tennessee. Of course they do share the Lemming gene so it is only a matter of time before they join the rest of the family. I did say relatively unscathed, they are indeed familiar with the underside of the bus they just have not spent a great deal of time there. I do have a question though and I have asked it repeatedly and have never received a sensible answer. Why was there a police car at their address at the time the infamous 911 call was made? Misty and others have also claimed they are drug addicts. And Ron claims that Hank tried to kill him with pain killers.
Of course the Under The Bus Club is not the sole purview of the Croslin family, indeed the club has expanded significantly. The Cummings and Shefield’s are all intimately familiar with the dreaded dark space under the bus.
Rather than a missing girl uniting these families in the common goal of finding Haleigh Cummings, they have instead orchestrated something out of Loony Tunes. They are the Websters dictionary definition of a dysfunctional family
Almost everyday someone gets to spend quality time under the bus!
Simon Barrett
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Follow-up comment rss or Leave a TrackbackI was thinging about brother Tommy going to the trailer to see if Misty was there, what if see was sleeping and Haleigh came to the door thinging it was her daddy? Maybe Tommy took her?Has Tommy been given a lie detector? Why would Ron not tell about not being able to find Misty? FISHEY
whats not fishey about this case?
Simon, I think a fleet of buses may be in order soon! Ron’s mother’s appearance on NG was a portent of things to come. Lies, lies and more lies, all extremely odd indeed. I agree with Cobra, Ron should realize that truth is better than fiction, but judging by the WESH video clip supplied by one of your bloggers indicates he and Misty haven’t a care in the world.
Hi Simon, it was actually Hank Sr who claimed Ron tried to kill him, and then he retracted it.
SALUKI, good post!! Why would Ron & Misty want to appear on camera like that?? I don’t get it.
How do we know there was a patrol vehicle parked at 202 Green at the time the 911 call was made? Did the Croslin family call them before Misty did? I recall a unit responding gave the Tyler address.
I’d love to know the results of finger prints taken from the front door. Tommy? If so, was he confronted with that and made up this story about going to check on Misty?
I have followed this story from day one and each day I have been astounded with the downward spiral of all the “players” in this sick drama. If the local LEO’s involved in this investigation had just one person with an ounce of training for interrogation this case would have been solved within days! We all know the mentality of the main players and I believe that a trained interrogator could have sweated the truth out of one of them. A few hours worth of questioning just didn’t work.
I also understand the need for investigators to keep some of the details from the public but at this point – 7 months – it just seems as if they are grasping at the wrong straws!
And now the brother with his “revelations”.
What I find most odd about his story is that apparentaly Ron knew all this from day one and wasn’t apparently concerned, i.e his statement “Keep your friends close and your enemies closer”.
I too believe that both “clans” are up to their eyeballs in this in one way or another.
“Stupid is as stupid does”!!
maybe tommy and lindsey are the ones who called 911 thr first time because if you read the report it had been almost 2-21/2 hrs since she had been seen last. that would put tommy at the trailer at 10;00p.m. like he said and was no activity, the first 911 call was made at 12:30- 1:30 a.m.. my quess is tommy or lindsey was worried about misty not haleigh, and once misty did show up they really had a missing person case.
only tommy and lindsey didnt know it was haleigh.
did misty lose haleigh where ever she was that night.
has le asked tommy and lindsey why they made the first 911 call? and who they were reporting missing?
Simon you are a bit of a funny guy. You did however leave out Lindsay, Tommmy’s wife and Tim’s wife..but you forgot me. Yea, seams like no one is exempt from the bus as Lindsay threw me under with her report to the police about me possibly hidding the child in Ga.
You may get under that bus too, so i suggest you loose some weight, lol
Tommy & Timmy have the same wife??
Case Closed-WHO are you??
The Croslin family remind me of the Beverly Hillbillies. Only without the money.
The Beverly Hillbilles would never lie or manipulate or harm another innocent human being.
However, if they could find who did this they wouldn’t need a jail. From Granny down they would just shoot them on site.
you are so right BOLDONE3,the hillbillies that don’t have any common sense.I wonder what they do allday. Sit around and smoke all day.
Boldone3 are you the only person here who doesn’t know who Case Closed Inc is????
“BOLDONE3 said,in September 22nd, 2009 at 10:40 am The Croslin family remind me of the Beverly Hillbillies. Only without the money.”
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Or the personality, character, family values, etc etc.
NOT the Beverly Hillbillies by a VERY LONG shot!
They were good, generous and kind people even though they were not well-educated or sophisticated.
CHARACTER is what the Croslin clan is missing and no amount of money (or education) can buy that.
I don’t know who Case Closed is either. It’s a strange name to choose, though, particularly to blog about THIS case! LOL!
m2c, true, the lack of CHARACTER, is the croslin’s problem, as a matter of fact m2c, it is the bulk of the nations problem, from the white house down. JMO Treece
1) I think Ron, Misty & Ron’s mother know something about this.
If they were “So” concerned about finding Haleigh these small things- would be red flags!
They did something & they are finally getting away with it.
Lock up Misty and charge her with Murder, bet she would be willing to talk then!
How is any Grandmother going to be told, No lights/TV/radios were on & her say “She was exhausted”? Wtf.
Really? Shouldn’t she be marching on over there and demanding to know something?
Fishy Family.
Misty said that whatever movie she put in at 8, that Haleigh got up and changed the movie so shouldn’t the TV have been on? & How do you NOT know what you put your kid to bed wearing? C’mon now! I bet they are going to say “She was to exhausted to remember”.
Exhaustion is like being drunk and getting pulled over by a cop- you sober up REAL quick so, she should have woke up REAL quick realizing Haliegh was gone!
This family is so full of.. ca-ca!
I don’t think the Croslin’s know much, because I think all of this “She wasn’t home” is coming out 7 months later, I think that’s because of the restraining order.
Poor child.
On the dispatch tape, that did not have the time listed, short comings.. your right, they dispatched an officer to the green lane location, and on his way, another officer comes on the radio and is leaving the tyle street residence. When ask.. they advise verifing information given, and give the Old “Hour to and hour and a Half” being the last time misty saw Haleigh.. yes, many questions.. first of all it was never determined what that female officer was really doing at that location, at that time, and it does appear she was at the green st location.. But, was never dispatched.
Oh My Gosh, she must have had a vision.. I have hear aka RUMORS, and please take it as such RUMORS. “That she was a friend of Tommy and Lindzy’s….” Details: NONE. No Resolution to the question, who and why??? Mystery?
But, brings up another question.. If they were reflecting to the time misty awoke, would that make it around 1:30am that Haleigh was last seen? HMMMMMMMM.. of course I have been told, oh no, the Le either altered the tape or it was much later that occurred, and I’m thinking.. hey guys, I know about fcc and regulations, wool doesn’t pull over my head that easy.. that is a right on.. and that needs to be addressed.
Did Shoemaker attempt to throw Tommy under the bus on Nancy Grace yesterday by stating that Ron had called Tommy at 9pm and not 10pm as Tommy had claimed? Or was that a deuce I saw? Surely Misty would have been awake at 9pm, she would have heard Tommy pounding on the door and most likely lights would have been on in that mobile home.
Wild!
…Just sayin.
“Why was there a police car at their address at the time the infamous 911 call was made?”
I have never heard this, where did it come from?
“Did Shoemaker attempt to throw Tommy under the bus on Nancy Grace yesterday by stating that Ron had called Tommy at 9pm and not 10pm as Tommy had claimed? Or was that a deuce I saw? Surely Misty would have been awake at 9pm, she would have heard Tommy pounding on the door and most likely lights would have been on in that mobile home.”
He also said that Ron did not ask Tommy to go to the house, just asked if Misty was at Tommy’s house.
Even considering the, shall we say, lack of education or smarts, on the part of all families involved, they HAVE to know that lying is not helping to bring Haleigh home. That leads me to believe that they either know she is no longer with us or they are playing some sort of sick game by hiding her. Either way, they must know exactly where she is or why not tell the truth? Not that they would win parent of the year award but even if it would incriminate them somehow, wouldn’t it be better to have this over and done with and have her home? One way or the other?
Is there any solid proof that the kitchen light was on and the back door propped open as Misty claims? The more I listen to Nancy Grace the more convinced I am that Misty’s story is pure fiction.I think Ron has figured that out but won’t admit it and so he keeps coming up with “non-answers”. I have said this before–when Haleigh was born Misty was 12 years old and now she’s some sort of responsible adult??!!Did she even finish school? I’ve seen her parading around smoking–isn’t she too young to buy smokes? Step back and look at this for what it is–domestic violence run amuk!
“He also said that Ron did not ask Tommy to go to the house, just asked if Misty was at Tommy’s house.”
I guess he might have unintentionally thrown Ron under the bus on that one also then, I mean, was Ron’s only concern for Misty and her whereabouts? Here I was hopefully thinking it might have been possible that Ron, being a caring Father, actually had enough concern that he may very well have asked Tommy to go over to check on Misty AND his Children. Especially since according to reports, Misty had turned off her phone.
…sigh.
CASE CLOSED INC.- AKA WILLIAM “COBRA” STAUBS.
Oh Please MLEE everyone knows you think Crystal took HaLeigh which is pathetic. Also, your site is so secure:)
Poor child.
mlee said,in September 22nd, 2009 at 11:29 am On the dispatch tape, that did not have the time listed, short comings.. your right, they dispatched an officer to the green lane location, and on his way, another officer comes on the radio and is leaving the tyle street residence. When ask.. they advise verifing information given, and give the Old “Hour to and hour and a Half” being the last time misty saw Haleigh.. yes, many questions.. first of all it was never determined what that female officer was really doing at that location, at that time, and it does appear she was at the green st location.. But, was never dispatched.
Oh My Gosh, she must have had a vision.. I have hear aka RUMORS, and please take it as such RUMORS. “That she was a friend of Tommy and Lindzy’s….” Details: NONE. No Resolution to the question, who and why??? Mystery?
But, brings up another question.. If they were reflecting to the time misty awoke, would that make it around 1:30am that Haleigh was last seen? HMMMMMMMM.. of course I have been told, oh no, the Le either altered the tape or it was much later that occurred, and I’m thinking.. hey guys, I know about fcc and regulations, wool doesn’t pull over my head that easy.. that is a right on.. and that needs to be addressed.
Gemma – BINGO! on Case Closed Inc
ok enough with the he said she said BS
I don’t like to compare this case to the Kaylee Anthony case but atleast there the grandparents were more concerned with finding the child than throwing each other under the bus. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE?
Lack of education, upbringing or the lack of it aside, they are all immoral and self centered. Stop all this throwing and let the truth set you free!!!
It’s Caylee, not Kaylee!!
I think Hanky Panky is lying through his teeth. I also think Mishy is screwy and dense for a 17 y/o girl. She may be lying, but she’s no killer. It’s also possible that Crytal had someone take Haleigh for her to get revenge on Ron and Misty.
My vote is that Hanky Panky will get so twisted up in his lies, that he gets caught. He’s a criminal with a past sexual abuse pattern on little girls. He got his giddy up earlier that evening grabbing on Misty and came back to the house for a little more…took Haleigh.
I don’t know why you keep bringing up education, you don’t need an education to be a liar.
They (accidentally I’m sure) killed this child & well, if you don’t report it (Like Casey never did) people get suspicous and do it for you. They didn’t want to get in trouble (obviously) for harming a child and made up some BOGUS blah blah story.
Ron told Misty to turn her phone off, so she couldn’t be traced.
They did whatever they had to do..
That’s why they can’t find anyones finger prints on the door, b/c no one BROKE in.
Now, the family that kills together.. sticks together.
Why would Misty leave Ron now? – He will blame her and lie and blah blah because obviously the focus is on her now.
Misty will blame Ron, and no one will believe her.
If he truly loved his child and didn’t have ANYTHING to do with this.. then, why would he still be with her?
No reason.
Hey Simon, you know those HUGE tires they put on vehicles at those “Monster Truck” shows? Since I first started reading this column I’ve been picturing the Croslin family riding around Satsuma in a custom-made “MONSTER” school bus.
Croslins don’t restrict rides to just kin folk. They tried to throw Tim Miller under it too; but instead he gave them 4 flat tires and caused them to go spinning out of control and they still haven’t stopped.
CASE CLOSED INC.- AKA WILLIAM “COBRA” STAUBS.
I am new to the board. Feel free to pass on any info to me that I need to know on that subject. Apparently I am not the only person who didn’t know who Case Closed is. Reliable??
LOVED the answer about Treese- Hillbillies “shooting at one another”. How true!!
Lack of Class or Education is no excuse for lying and murder.
JESSIEG-I guess I wasn’t the only person on the board who didn’t know who Case Closed was.
I know he has done alot for this case. Is he still working it, or am I totally in the dark?
Ron knows that Misty didn’t hurt Haleigh, that is why he married her. He knows though that she can’t recall things she should for whatever reason (being that she is lying or it is blocked due to the trauma). Hank is lying.
Would Ron have married Misty if Haleigh was still here?? I’m just asking. Was his intention ever to marry her – he never married Crystal. Again just wondering. Seems to me he thought he had a pretty good set up – baby sitter/girlfriend who could apparently go AWOL for 3 days partying and still be trusted to care for 2 innocent children. I never really understood that part of this whole thing – apparently his mother was no more concerned than her son about the welfare of the children or Misty would never have been allowed to care for them after being gone for 3 days!!
And I think that may have been what started this whole thing – if he loved her enough to marry her why was she gone for 3 days prior to Haleigh being snatched.
Case Closed is. Reliable?? Could be…who is you? Yes I work it every day, all day and night too….Something bigger is cooking I must return to the kitchen now.. Another dish of what the hell is that, coming right up.
I liked the comment about my friend Tim Miller, he did give em some flats! They are out of control..
“THE TRUTH FEARS NO QUESTIONS”
Cobra
I just watched and rewatched the Nancy Grace interview with Ron’s mom and it sounded to me like she really wanted everyone to think that one of the kids would have gone to the door instead of Misty. Seems to me that the Croslin’s aren’t the only ones willing to chuck someone towards the axels.
Hi Cobra….No pun or disrespect to you. I actually haven’t heard much about you lately, and was wondering if you were still on this case. I am new to this board. How I would love to be “a fly in the room” with getting you to talk about EVERYTHING you know on this case.
I sent you a check about 2 months ago, wasn’t much since I am unemployed, but I wanted you to know that if I found myself in a predictment, hopefully you would remember me and come thru for me.
Keep up the hard work.
Deb
I also watched Nancy Grace and I thought that Ron’s mom was trying to suggest (and of course Miss Nancy wouldn’t let her because it wasn’t what she wanted to hear!) was that Misty’s brother was lying about knocking on the door.
She just didn’t come right out and say it but it was certainly implied. But of course Ron had already cooked up answer to that by saying he didn’t request that Tommy go look for Misty just ask if she was at his house. And Ron’s mom wasn’t sure how she should answer Nancy’s question. Truly the heat is on!
Deb, thank-you and yes i would be that one to show up for sure. heck, that is why i am in this issue….I show up!
It seems obvious that Misty wasn’t there when her brother went to the trailer because she was probably disposing of Haleigh at the time. She should get the cell next to Casey Anthony and wait her turn for the lethal injection. Let’s not waste anymore taxpayer money on this.
Misty is innocent until proven guilty and the lie detector test she has been failing from what I understand is she is withholding info. But it is not showing that she hurt Haleigh. What makes us think that Tommy is telling the truth about that, 7 months later. Also LE already checked Rons phone for calls & pings early in the investigation. If Ron really called Tommy at 10 LE knew it long ago.
I just wanted to share with my friends…..
An Old Farmer’s Advice:
* Your fences need to be horse-high, pig-tight and bull-strong.
*Keep skunks and bankers at a distance.
*Life is simpler when you plow around the stump.
* A bumble bee is considerably faster than a John Deere tractor.
* Words that soak into your ears are whispered…not yelled.
* Meanness don’t jes’ happen overnight.
* Forgive your enemies. It messes up their heads.
* Do not corner something that you know is meaner than you.
* It don’t take a very big person to carry a grudge.
* You cannot unsay a cruel word.
* Every path has a few puddles.
* When you wallow with pigs, expect to get dirty.
* The best sermons are lived, not preached.
* Most of the stuff people worry about ain’t never gonna happen.
* Don’t judge folks by their relatives.
* Remember that silence is sometimes the best answer.
* Live a good, honorable life. Then when you get older and think back, you’ll enjoy it a second time.
* Don’t interfere with somethin’ that ain’t bothering you none.
* Timing has a lot to do with the outcome of a Rain Dance.
* If you find yourself in a hole, the first thing to do is stop diggin’.
* Sometimes you get, and sometimes you get got.
* The biggest troublemaker you’ll probably ever have to deal with watches you from the mirror every morning.
* Always drink upstream from the herd.
* Good judgment comes from experience, and a lotta that comes from bad judgment.
* Lettin’ the cat outta the bag is a lot easier than puttin’ it back in.
* If you get to thinkin’ you’re a person of some influence, try orderin’ somebody else’s dog around.
* Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God.
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And finally, my new favorite….
“Jist cuz you stepped in it, don’t mean ya hav ta stand in it!”
Cobra
Misty has “GUILTY” written all over her. “Innocent until proven guilty” is a double edged sword. Half the time it truly protects the innocent. Unfortunately, the other half of the time, scum hide behind it when it is very difficult to gather enough evidence.
When Haleigh’s body is recovered, Misty will spin another story.
Cobra, I love it. Thanks for sharing it. Treece
Rumor has it Misty skipped town…. Sure wasn’t expecting that one. (rolls eyes).
Thanks for those quotes Cobra, it made my day!!
🙂
rumor has it saying to went to mass.
Cobra-its cold here in Wisconsin….so hopefully if we meet it will be under pleasant circumstance in a nicer climent.
Misty skipped?? Where did this info come from??
One more comment….in lieu of Misty’s brother…I don’t believe anything that comes out of those Croslin’s mouth’s. NOTHING. However, how do we know Misty wasn’t passed out and didn’t hear the knocking at the door??
We don’t know. Not yet. Just like she could have gone out that night, left the door open herself since she didn’t have a key, came home and the baby was gone.
Who knows what is truth and what isn’t anymore.
I do know, for the longest time, I felt Haleigh was alive. I am losing that hope now. I hope I am wrong.
Just recently stumbled upon this website..(where have I been under a rock). Lots of interesting info here. How are the Cummings (Ron and Misty) supporting themselves? I haven’t seen anything about either of them working….so who’s supporting them?
MISTY CAN”T SKIP or walk very well…..No she was at the beach today…for real! She was working on that white tan…
Misty’s lawyer said she was out of town for a few days. I don’t think she fled just went for a visit. I am sure she could use the break.
I would also like to know how Ron and Misty are supporting themselves these days. Who’s paying for the lawyer and fancy suits Ron wears now on Miss Nancy’s show?
I just got off the phone and my caller said what does the blog think about the fact Misty was at the beach working on her tan and all this hell going on looking for Haleigh. I for one would have to say that does not sound like Mrs Sikes knows what she is talking about when she said Misty is more mature than a 20 or 30 year old. Hell i know i have to show Mrs Sikes some love, as she is too old to remember how 20 and 30 year old girls act and there is a shortage of them in Putnam. Ask Ronald. he dates children and he is not alone as others (much older) have similar issues. there are over 200 diddlers there too. Sorry for the rant, but really Misty should have taken the kids to beach and not been a ‘beach” just some of our thoughts.
Cobra
I think it is ok that she takes a break, it has been 7 months, she is only 17. But I understand
what you are saying, too. It’s a hard call. I guess I just think she deserves to do something besides be right by Ronald & his family. Where is Ron Junior? I hope at his mom’s. I still say Misty is innocent until proven guilty. My opinion is she is guilty of lying but not murder. To me, at this point, her guilt is like everyone of ROn’s family they all lied.
Cobra,
I will always be your number 1 fan. You knew early on Misty had left the MH that night. Keep doing what you do.
Simon,
…and Misty takes the bus to the beach. Ron is letting her drive it there. Do people really think Ron is the kind of man that would allow his wife to go on a vacation without him, unless he had a plan to throw her under the infamous bus? Any confirmation on who the girlfriend is? I hope the gf can afford a new dress for court. She’s going to need one.
Solve Crimes party, you got my attention with the girlfriend and new dress for court, care to expand?
Cobra,
The gf is either someone Misty already knew or someone she has met through her atty or LE. Regardless of who the mystery woman is, she will surely find herself at the least being questioned in the future. This break away from Ron has gotten my attention. Ron has kept Misty at an arm’s length. Why now is Ron so confident to allow Misty out of his sight? Divide and conquer?
treece,
One thing for sure: Misty is guilty. Of not doing everything possible to assist in the finding of Haleigh.
At the last minute, she refused to re-enact events at the trailer home the evening Haleigh was last seen.
She is selfishly more interested in helping herself than she is in finding Haleigh.
At the last minute, she refused a polygraph Tim Miller arranged at her request, then went along with the plan after Ronald spent time with her, trying to convince her to do so.
When the polygraph revealed she doesn’t feel certain Ronald isn’t to blame for Haleigh being missing, she tried to throw Tim Miller under the bus. But failed. Miserably.
It was probably Ronald, Neves, and Sykes idea to throw Tim Miller to the wolves, under the bus, or however you want to look at it – in other words – to blame Tim Miller for Misty not having confidence that Ronald is innocent.
But that doesn’t absolve Misty of guilt. She is looking out for her own selfish interests – which include keeping Ronald, Neves, and Sykes happy with her.
Nance,
Cobra was all over it. When Misty refused the reenactment the heat was on. I hope Cobra was able to use some of his fancy little gadgets to listen closely when certain people thought no one was around. I wish I could win the lottery. I would help Cobra out. I want this case solved.
SolveCrimes,
Misssssssssss Nancy’s ratings would shoot through the roof if she had Cobra as a guest expert.
I heard a Discovery Channel deal is in the works for him.
I wish him the best – he seems to have a heart of gold.
He’s a fun, interesting character, too. I saw a you tube video whrere he displays tools of his trade – a whole room full!
Ronald Cummings voice on the 911 call sounds scripted. It is flat, emotion-less, controlled. His sentences run-on, as though he is reading from a book.
Uh oh, So now they are saying Misty has skipped town and no one knows where she is. I’m watching Nancy Grace, so hopefully they have the facts straight. Cobra said she was at the beach. I wonder where she is now. They say she is not in Satsuma. I know she is not really a suspect, but a person of interest. Let’s face it, where is she going to go if she has no money. If she’s not guilty, why is she leaving town. They are saying her & Ron had a fight. That’s nothing new. Wonder what this one was all about.
Does Ron really have a girlfriend? They are claiming the fight started over the weekend when the pond was being drained.
Cobra had her pegged from the beginning.
I have followed this case from day one, and am shocked at the continous lies this family has dished out to LE and to the media………….why havent they arrested anyone yet when its pretty clear Misty is lieing………… they arrested Casey for lieing??
I used to think Haleigh was alive, but latley i dunno………I pray to god im wrong and she is found alive…..
I think the only reason Ron married misty is to keep her quiet,……….as he is guilty, just a thought
Okay, so I’m a little challenged when it comes to some of the new technology. So, if Misty has her phone turned off is it still possible to track her movements, or does the phone have to be on for them to track the cell phone pings?
Can someone fill me in?
i’m pretty sure it has to be on stormgardner is The Caylee murder they tracked casey with hers but when she shut it off they couldn’t track anything she did only while it’s on.
Thanks Bryan, I appreciate the info. Just an old dog learning new tricks. Lol
With LE keeping their eye on her, how in the world was she able to leave town without anyone noticing. I understand they can’t keep her from leaving, but I hope someone is watching her and she can’t get far. If she does, someone is helping her.
Stormgardner, I think the girlfriend in question is whoever Misty was at the beach with. No one seems to know who she is. I don’t think Misty is on the run, she left being all kissy with Ron & her lawyer said she was just getting away for a few days.
nance, i agree with you, Misty is guilty of lying and not doing all she could, just as ron and his family are guilty of the same thing
Thanks Treece, I guess I got ahead of myself there for a minute. I should know by now to wait and hear the facts. I was so hoping there was going to be a break in this case. Poor Haleigh needs to be found one way or the other. This is breaking my heart and I don’t even know this sweet little girl. I have grandaughter’s and just can’t imagine being able to cope with it. Maybe that’s why it hits so close to home for me.
NG needs to wait before she starts with the “bombshell”. It had me thinking Misty had totally skipped town. How does Nancy know she’s not in Satsuma?
I have some things I really need to be doing, but I know I’ll be right back here seeing if anyone has additional information.
Thanks everyone for all your help.
You are welcome and I have been ahead of myself on this deal too. It is very time consuming trying to keep up with it all. We are all learning together and this is a great place to do that. You can count on Simon, Jan, TJ & Cobra to give you the truth. We can share ideas and frustrations and agree to disagree when we can’t see it the same. Bottom line we all want Haleigh found dead or alive. I pray she is still alive but I don’t think she is. Either way we all want this resolved, the truth, and the guilty punished.
The beach is dark now, try Orlando..maybe in the small world…where ever she is she is not wanted, but if she were….she would be found in Orlando I bet.
Vacation not Vanished, although that does “run” in this family…
Cobra
why is it pcso can give info out to hobbit asbout rather tommy called ron back but they cant give the public any info. is this more b/s from someone who thinks they know it all or wants to know it all.
hey pcso how about informing the public about this case instead of someone who owns a blog site.
no disrespect to hobbit or anyone else but what makes some more preffy to info and not the rest?
jmo imo.
oh yea i forgot to add, if any blog owner should be given inside info give it to simon he has worked his ass off and has kept haleigh in the public eye more than anyone i know.
i know some blog sites have only been up and running for what a hot minute?
simon your the bomb keep up the hard work and do as you have been, reporting only the truth and acting normal about it to boot.
i will say simon you dont lie to get people to come to your site.
love ya.
Ok I haven’t posted in a long time but my opinion remains that Ron is innocent. I think Misty is too (of the abduction), She is guilty of being a 17 yer old that is really mixed up.
My theory, Ron really pissed of Misty’s cousin over the gun, at some point cousin, brother, and maybe father went in retaliation to Ron’s to do or steal whatever and finding Misty either passed out (maybe they drugged her)or gone took Haleigh.
I think the pcso has alot more info than they are releasing and that it points to Misty’s family not Misty.
again, just my opinion.
I don’t think Misty was at home that night, but I thought women were not supposed to answer their doors when someone bangs on it especially at night. I do not even in day light if I don’t know who it is. Even if Tommy said it is Me. Maybe she did not feel like talking to him because she knew maybe Ron did call him to check on her.
P.s. I know the new rule when you are home is to let them know someone is there to keep them from breaking in.
Just sayin
Case Closed Inc. said,in September 22nd, 2009 at 8:15 pm The beach is dark now, try Orlando..maybe in the small world…where ever she is she is not wanted, but if she were….she would be found in Orlando I bet.
Vacation not Vanished, although that does “run” in this family…
Cobra
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Now that’s just Goofy.
Just reading between the lines. It makes perfect sense. It’s a small world, Disney World, Orlando, Florida. I am not saying she is there. It is a good play on words. It is a small world after all and Misty’s world is closing in around her!!!
Thank you solvecrimes!! Great post!!
It’s all pretty crazy stuff though ennit SolveCrimes?
This case feels like that spinning little tea cups ride sometimes huh? It’s just not some folks cup a tea though I suppose? Probably makes them queasy and what not.
Exactly! That is why I was so excited when I learned Cobra was sharing sweet tea with Ron. Cobra is brilliant. He knows how to get down and dirty to get the answers he needs. I do not know Cobra but I knew when he would drink from the same cup as Ron he was good, damn good.
I feel like whippin out some Patsy Cline about now.
Have a good night y’all.
Sweet Dreams Tuff.
I hear rumors that the small world is partyville after dark – all the time.Lol
WBG in Putnam County jail tonight…has he been thrown under the bus?
I heard them saying on Miss Nancy tonight, that they had a huge fight and Ron threw Misty out and then threw her clothes out the door. He then, ran down the street begging her to come back.
And what does she do when it’s all over?
‘I’m going to Disney World, yall’
Is there a pattern here with picking fights, so one can go out and party? My neices husband used to pick a fight with her every Friday afternoon – she would kick him out and he would be kickin’ it at the club that evening.
Then he would be crying sorry, Sunday.
Refresh me – who is WGB??
White Boy Greg. Misty’s fling the weekend before.
Wow. I don’t believe in coincidences.Lol Especially not with this case.
were in the world is Misty! lol
Misty is out of town taking a little vacation while PCSO is putting the heat on some of her friends and family.
maybey she went to visit Casey Anthony to get some tips! this is a real joke, arrest them already
Do you know what WBG’s being charged with? Possibly drug related? I know everyone is still a suspect, but I thought they pretty much ruled him out. Not sure on that though.
Great post Cobra, there were a couple of us that were right on the same page with you. I admit I had to read it a couple of times.
Tuff stuff cracked me up.
Follow this link…he is already out.
http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=756612&IMG=52125
These people are all hayseed and whitetrash. That poor little baby stood no chance. They need to just waterboard “Misty”. The kid is probably dead.
Throwing the family under the bus. Great imagery, Simon. I might be tempted to give credit or outstanding metaphor to the missus, but that line is right out of the Monty Python playbook. All the same, well put. Are the police ever going to lock anyone up on at least suspicion of murder as sadly it doesn’t look real good for the child at this point. Lets see; trailer populated by druggies surrounded by child molesters and if that wasn’t enough, the state of Florida around all that.
Ron is 24 with a 17 year-old, live in girlfriend. Isn’t this a crime? It is at least a red flag. Maybe in Florida it is not statutory rape, but it should be. Misty chain smokes on TV and is not old enough to buy cigs. She looks like a drug addict (I’ve seen enough of them, I can tell).
The whole thing stinks. It is time for the cops to make some arrests and sort it out when she’s behind bars. If not, she’ll end up disappearing or killing herself like Trenton Duckett’s mom.
The two stories are so parallel.
imo, something is going to happen to misty why shes on vaction if she is with any of rons family.
im thinking maybe an accidental overdose.
ron has made it clear misty likes doing drugs, there for what a better way to elimanate her, make it look like she did it herself.
misty knows rons family took haleigh and it was for money.jmo.
i wonder if teresa neves still works as a dispatch?
may god be with misty for i feel she is in real danger from this family.
Just FYI to stop some rumors. See this link Susan posted yesterday. Misty & Ron were not fighting, she left playing around with him. Her lawyer announced she was going away for a few days with a “friend”. TJ, why did Nancy Grace lie that Misty skipped town just as LE was wanting her?? She started this rumor.
Susan said,
in September 21st, 2009 at 8:07 pm
Check out the butt slap and the laugh from Ron at the end.
Ron Cummings thinks this is all funny. Oh, yes he does.
http://www.wesh.com/video/21043768/index.html
TOUGHENOUGH-GREAT post.
I not only agree word from word your thinking, but the first time I heard Ronald on TV I had 2 thoughts. One-he is 100% innocent. Two-This man has alot of enemies. So it could have been any of Ron’s enemies who took the child. Do I think Misty knows who?? NO I don’t. Do I think she is being honest?? NO I don’t.
After watching NG last night, hearing about Ron & Misty’s fight, and then him going after her begging her to come back, my conclusion of him is he is very needy. Why else would he go after her?? Let her go Ron……
She is a confused 17 year old. Her parents, in the middle of all this have picked up and moved away from her. Have you ever heard of such a thing??
I do have a ?? What is Misty “getting away from”?? She isn’t cooperating 100%, so we know she doesn’t need a break for that. A break from Ron? She should have thought about that before she married him. However, she did marry him, and thus put herself in a line of fury. Whether she had anything directly to do with the kidnapping or not, she has not been honest about that night. When Ron wakes up and sees it, I agree, he will shove her teeth thru the back of her head. Maybe she needs to “get away from the fear” of her husband??
What I would like to see is… Ron and wifey be confronted on t.v. by the people they are contradicting… When telling lies it’s difficult to do so when you’re confronted by the person you’re contradicting… I’m talking about Ron telling Art, Tim, Cobra one thing.. then saying it never was said.. the made bed, laundry, ratgate, so on and so on… Just think it would be very interesting to see how Ron would cope.. especially since he is a hothead!!
Yes, Mark, you said it. I would add, if the truth comes out, it be the working of the Almighty.
I agree cent.
After being asked the questions, I would LOVE to know why Ron is protecting Misty like he is to the public?? Tim is telling the truth. Does Ron love Misty more than his own daughter that he doesn’t want to get to the truth?
BoldOne3, I think there are three possibilities. Either he is somehow involved before the fact, or accessory after the fact, (either of which *could* explain his actually marrying someone). The third possibility could be that he is COMPLETELY clueless and / or pathologically selfish but uninvolved in the disappearance in which case a lot of people might feel he deserves what he gets anyway. One thing is certain, that girl is under his skin and she knows it.
If Tim is telling the truth why did he wait 7 months & LE had the cell phone records
from the very beginning. They knew if he talked to ROn that night or not. Just food for thought.
Why did Ron call to check up on Misty in the first place? What was he so worried about? Did anyone ever question his co-workers about his demeanor that night? Maybe Ron did something to Haleigh before he left for work and was calling to see if she was ok.
I was reading some of the old reports and saw that Misty called her parents crying and screaming, saying that she wanted to leave and when they got there she had a change of heart. This in reference to Ron attacking Tommy. My daughter was living with this abusive d***head and was constantly calling me and I just sent the cops over there. When she realized I wasn’t gonna play into that crap anymore she took matters into her own hands and finally got shed of that idiot. However, she was Stuck On Stupid for 3 freaking years! How long is Misty gonna stay Stuck On Stupid? She needs to face the music and just tell the truth. As for Ron, it’s obvious he’s an abuser and needs to be put away.
Misty is just another kid, herself. I don’t think she knows where Haleigh is but I do believe she is lying about what happened that night. Perhaps she left the kids alone and came home to one missing. Perhaps she drugged them to keep them quiet and accidentally killed Haleigh (thus washing vomit from overdose out of the blanket). Perhaps she left the kids with someone she didn’t know well enough and sitter and child came up missing.
Kids lie to keep from getting into trouble.
alethea-Agree. He may know something AFTER the fact. I won’t rule that out. I will not accept before or during he knew anything.
One thing is certain, that girl is under his skin and she knows it.
Nothing truer said!!!!
alethea-Agree. He may know something AFTER the fact. I won’t rule that out. I will not accept before or during he knew anything.
One thing is certain, that girl is under his skin and she knows it.
Nothing truer said!!!!
alethea-Agree. He may know something AFTER the fact. I won’t rule that out. I will not accept before or during he knew anything.
One thing is certain, that girl is under his skin and she knows it.
Nothing truer said!!!!
IMO, the following sums it up :
Haleigh is likely dead.
The Croslins are all criminal trash.
The Cummings are no better.
Most of their associations/relations are either in jail or recently out of jail.
The innocent children in the middle do not stand a chance.
where is jr right now? is he still with ron? did hear see or hear ron and misty argument over the week-end?
isnt this child neglect if jr was present?
RONALD, WHERE IN THE HECK IS YOUR PRIORITIES?
DONT YOUR CHILDREN MATTER TO YOU?
WHY HAVE YOU CONTINUED TO STAND BESIDE THE LITTLE GIRL WHO NOT ONLY WAS THE LAST TO SEE YOUR CHILD, IS HAVING SEX WITH OTHER MEN AND WOMEN, AND CONTINUES TO LIE ABOUT WHERE SHE WAS?
DOES IT TURN YOU ON TO KNOW THAT SHE IS THE TYPE OF LITTLE GIRL SHE IS?
RONALD, I DONT BELIEVE FOR ONE MINUTE THAT YOU LOVE YOUR CHILDREN OR ANYONE ELSE FOR THAT MATTER.
YOU HAVE NO HELPED LE WHAT SO EVER IN HELPING FIND YOUR DAUGHTER OR GETTING THE TRUTH OUT OF MISTY.
YOU SAY I NEED MORE PROOF.
WELL RONALD MAYBE YOU SHOULD GO TALK TO THE MEXICANS. THERE IS A GAME THE MEXICANS PLAY, ITS CALLED ROLL THE DICE, THE NUMBER THAT POPS UP IS THE AMOUNT OF MEN YOU HAVE SEX WITH.
THERE ARE SOME OUT THERE WHO ARE BORRED OUT AND NOONE CAN FIND THE BOTTOM TO IT, IS THAT YOU AND MISTY PROBLEM? IS THERE NO MORE TIGHTNESS BETWEENS YOUNS?
THINK OF YOUR CHILDREN RONALD AND TO HELL WITH MISTY. DO YOU REALLY WANT SOMEONE LIKE HER AROUND YOUR CHILDREN? IF YOU CONTINUE TO HAVE HER AROUND THEM REMEMBER NOT ONLY WILL THEY LEARN TO LIE FROM YOU AND YOUR FAMILY NOW THEY WILL HAVE MISTY TEACHING THEM POINTERS TOO.
DO YOU REALLY WANT TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH LIFE NOT KNOWING IF YOUR OWN CHILDREN ARE LIEING TO YOU.
I CAN SEE IT NOW IN 10-12 YRS LITTLE JR WILL EITHER BEEN IN A JUVINEIL HOME FOR TROUBLED KIDS OR A DRUG DEALING LIAR.
I QUESS THE APPLE DONT FALL FAR FROM THE TREE?
THIS IS ALLL JUST MY OPINION AND OPINION.LOL.
I realize Junior was only 4 years old but Haleigh was just a year older. Children who are raised in the environment that these 2 were raised are gonna grow up faster and be exposed to things that children of any age shouldn’t see, hear, etc.! I’m just saying that if an adult with just a little more sense than anyone I’ve seen so far had just taken time to ask him some simple questions I believe he may have been able to answer….but not now because I believe he has been “TOLD” that he doesn’t remember. But a child his age is incapable of telling lies unless he’s coached.
You would think they would have known to have a trained child psychologist to question the child before he had a chance to be influenced.
Even a really intellegent child of 5 or 6 can be made to believe something that’s not true if it’s repeated over and over.
Let’s hope Junior doesn’t wake up one morning in a few years in a state of psychological shock when he remembers something that shows him things didn’t happen the way he’s always believed.
treece,
The sheriff admits he didn’t know that Tommy went to the trailer after Ronald called him, until Tommy told him – 7 months after the fact.
I would like to know if LE did not question Tommy about the 9:45 pm call from Ronald until 7 months later when Tommy was incarcerated, or NEVER questioned him about the call, instead Tommy told them about the call while talking in a general interrogation after being arrested for theft.
Alethea – my point exactly! The first question that LE should have had someone ask Jr. was where he went to sleep and was Misty in the bed with him and where was Haleigh? Very simple questions. However, the only thing mentioned in the news reports I’ve seen were from what his mother Crystal said Jr. told her about that night – and it was dismissed without question. I also seem to remember Crystal’s attorney Kim mentioning that Crystal wanted Jr. to see a child psychologist and apparently Ronald said NO!
This is such a sad story because a child doesn’t get to choose the situation they are born into and it seems poor Haleigh had the cards stacked against her. What a dysfunctional wreck the people in her life are. There are a lot of people in this case that seem to know a lot more than they are saying and I have a bad feeling that Haleigh met a horrible fate.
Rebecca, you have just repeated exactly what Nancy Grace said.. This sweet Child never had a chance.
Anyway, as for being thrown under the bus.. Misty made it again.. Her Momma threw her under this morning.. Made it very clear, even if the truth hurts Misty, Momma, Lisa Croslin stated she stand by her son.
Simon, why don’t you ask people one simple question? Whom do you think was the very first person to be thrown under the bus? I don’t vote for cousin Joe.
If anyone is watching Breaking News…its sad what is going on right now.
I don’t have any breaking news right now what’s happening??
From the way it looks, lots of people are in trouble. Have you seen Nay Nay’s letter saying that LE questioned her about someone named Joe telling LE that Misty, Nay Nay, WBG, and Haleigh and Jr. were partying the night Haleigh went missing? Haleigh, supposedly, got into some Oxycotin and died. They all panicked, so WBG, supposedly, put Haleigh in a black bag and threw her in a nearby pond. That’s why LE drained that pond.
Teresa Neves was on NG, tonight, and she said Haleigh wouldn’t have swallowed such a bitter tasting pill. Not my story, but that is what Nay Nay says she is being questioned about. You can see the letter on Art Harris.com.
Cobra:
When this is over, which will probably be soon. You should write a book about all of the things you have seen and heard in all of this. I will buy one, if you write one. Maybe, you could recover some of your losses that way.
I know nothing about Oxycotin, including how to spell it, but do any of you know how a child could have swallowed that, accidentally? Is it ever ground up, or anything like that, or disguised in other forms that a child could accidentally swallow?
Major Bowling is saying that is a story that they are giving serious consideration.
I just don’t understand why Ron is doing all of the cover-up he is doing in all of this.
I think that whole entire clan needs an intervention… with a good old fashion ass whoop!!!
Karen,
Oxycotin sometimes is prescribed in the form of a sweet tasting lollipop for cancer sufferers to suck on for pain relief. A child would certainly eat that. Also the tablet form is often a yellow tablet that is then crushed and mixed with heated water to inject. The tablet is only bitter if it is chewed but the outer coating is not bitter and it is easily swallowed.
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