DVD five contains a single conversation between Tommy Croslin and his wife Lindsay Croslin.
This jail tape was recorded in the latter part of April.
Of all of the people involved in the Haleigh Cummings case I had held Lindsay Croslin in some esteem, she seemed to be the one member in Dysfunction Junction that had more than one synapse firing.
After this tape I am re-thinking my stance.
In what has to be one of the funniest and most bizarre exchanges I have ever heard, Tommy and Lindsay get into a discussion about ‘family photographs’. Oh this has nothing to do with weddings or other family get togethers, this is about who has the best jail photo!
There are some more serious aspects to this conversation, there are mentions about ‘a friend’, who might that be? The context is about money, specifically in buying a car. Who might this friend be? I can’t see that it would be the ‘Big Hatted’ bounty hunter from California. I suspect that he has had enough automotive adventures with Hank.
Is this tape important? Probably not, but it does give further insights into the melange that the Croslin’s, Cummings, and Sheffield’s have created.
Tommy Croslin and Lindsay Croslin tape
Some of this tape was mentioned on Sunday, you can listen to the entire program here.
Simon and Jan Barrett
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Follow-up comment rss or Leave a TrackbackWonderful job AGAIN, Simon! Thanks!
whewwwwwwww Happy Belated Birthday Jan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanx again for the tapes!
she got her joob,Lindsey did,made Tommys day i am sure,lol
a witness who saw wbg?
a witness who saw wbg?
I didn’t see the photo argiment,or is it on a diff one?
how is tommy so sure these stories are lies? lol sounds like he knows the real story!
Lindsy has lost her mind, she is a user too. She is going to let Hank and Lisa watch those kids in that hood they live in while she is gone for 12 hrs. at a time? Has she lost her cotton picking mind? jmo
yea and before they werent fittin too Tobias!
Maybe my friend will match my money…for God’s sake!
she is very manipulative imo too………..
COOP: The difference between probation and parole is: If you are given no prison or jail time, or are given a suspended sentence, you are given probation. If you violate it, you have to serve whatever time you were given. Parole (or community control, as it is called in FL) is what you get after serving prison time, if you have gotten out early. FL is an 85% state, so you have to serve 85% of your sentence to get out early. No other early outs.
We all saw the room Hank and Lisa have add 3 kids and there wont be room to sit, evidently Lindsy hasnt been there or she would see how stupid it sounds. Also I dont think DCS is going to stand for it. Didnt they tell her to keep the kids away from Hank and Lisa? She is so into herself too, she is preening in the reflection on the moniter. egads. jmo
My car has no breaks,no wipers,no thermostat,overheats,smokes more than me,drinks oil for breakfast but owell……..lol
CRICKET — What is “VLC”? A website? Still trying to find a way to listen/see the newer videos. Thanks.
i agree,she is..did you see how tommy though puts down very quickly anyone who helps her….”he’s not a cop” he is so jealous,i bet hes glad her jobs on the weekends,lol sheeeesh,
yall aint found a way to listen,Tobias do you think theres a way i could convert them for yall to listen?? anybody???????????????????
Cathy, Did you notice on one of the Tommy and Hank tapes Hank is worried about his title for that car? Yeah without the title he cant sell it.jmo
Did you left click then save as? Thats how I listened to them.jmo
Tobias
VLC media player is awesome. Download it here.
http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-windows.html
After you download it, you can save the files from here and play them in VLC Player.
Cathy, thats Tobie not me. lol
Whoops. I didn’t notice the Tobie difference either. Sorry Tobias, my last message is for Tobie.
Fmaily photos are the booking photos(mugshots) too funny. Tommy looks so bad in the recent one but earlier ones he isnt so bad. lol Why not bring up those ears? jmo
oh,I am sorry Tobie,blind as a bat here,lol
I just saw something about Lindsey,gonna post but use your own judgements,I dunno if its true but wouldn’t shock me? just imo though!
She seemes to be awfully worried about her appearance since tommys in jail?
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m writing to give some information on Lindsay Croslin for those who don’t know who she really is. She is not the innocent girl she portrays nor is she a victim in any way shape or form. She claimed to stand by her husband no matter what and swore by his innocence. She said she would wait for him forever and loved him although she was dating the second he went to jail not to mention when he was home and they were together. Once she got a taste of freedom she immediately started seeing multiple men, talking to ex boyfriends whom she cheated on Tommy with in the past and is now talking to a new lover Keith Simpson. This not so bright 23 year old mother of 3 openly tells people stories of her unprotected sex with all of these men stating “I have my tubes tied so I can’t get pregnant” Should someone inform her she can contract and spread STDS? Is this not the girl who recently got her LPN license? I would be worried if she was going to care for one of my loved ones! Her filing for divorce came from her new attitude once dating Keith whom is over 10 years older than her and she takes care of better than her children. She admitted she was dating him because she did not want to be alone. She stated she would go back to Tommy once he got out and filed for divorce by her families request. In fact she recently put the divorce on hold. If her grandparents found out she would loose her free apartment and brand new car all provided to her by them. She parties hard, leaving her three young children unsupervised frequently, many people witnessed her children left alone or roaming outside filthy and uncared for. She was given her place to live by her grandparents where she has no bills or responsibility. Her grandfather bought her the brand new car which she lets her new boyfriend drive like it is his. This new car she uses to pick up her boyfriend daily to bring him to and from work and anywhere else he wants to go when he is not driving it. This new boyfriend of hers she has not even known a couple months and she already has him living in her home on a daily basis and his company has been grounds for calls to the police recently. The people she associates with are scum at its finest and she is ok with having that in her home and around her children at any hour of the night. There are videos and video footage of them together and on several occasions. She admits to using Xanax more than once while drinking, and brags how she got her DCF case to go away so easily. How they didn’t take her children is beyond anyone seeing as she has been spotted in the same clothes for days at a time and is always sleeping while her kids wander outdoors. Many people have witnessed this in the town homes where she resides. She is a manipulative liar who will use anyone to get where she wants to be. She uses the state of Florida for almost 1000 dollars in food stamps a month and gives them away to her new boyfriend and anyone else as well. Why is the state helping someone who is not helping themselves? She tells everyone who she is as if she is a movie star and she is proud of it. I met her once and she willingly told me her life story as well as anyone else who comes into contact with her. I met someone whom she allowed to move in with her who also offered up various information about what goes on in her home and her life. Her children have been affected by her new relationship and the fact that this man who has his own home is always sleeping in her house by her request. Her son is seeing a therapist now by request of the school due to him acting out very badly lately. She puts her own needs before her children. She was recently hired by the Department of Health in Bunnell with no experience and used her sob stories as a way in the door. She needs to have her DCF case reopened and she needs serious help. How she has 3 children and a brand new man in her home all night in a 2 bedroom makes no sense. She brags on her Myspace how she has only 200 dollars in bills a month and she cant wait to blow her 1100.00 checks every two weeks. I hope she reported this new job to the state of Florida seeing as she is receiving assistance. It is all very disturbing. The Croslins which she bashes publicly she is also willing to leave her children with in exchange for the money Hank and Lisa “owe” her. She still remains in contact with all of them although she denies it to most. Her phone records show otherwise. She admits that she had phone sex as well as provocative web cam conversations with bounty hunter Leonard Padilla on the lap top that was bought by him for her. She had these conversations in exchange for money for bills she claimed she had to pay, yet she has no bills and lives off of her grandparents and the state. The only bills she has is a water and electric bill and she is willing to have her 3 children herself her large pit bull (which she has been known to abuse and neglect) and her boyfriend crammed into a small 2 bedroom to avoid having to pay bills although she has a job and a brand new car. She is using her grandparents to get all that she has. She brags about the fact that Art Harris as well as many other reporters call her constantly. She is trailer trash at its finest. There are several more pictures of her with her new boyfriend as well as other men she has been partying with. Where are her children? I saw these photos online on some ones Myspace page who she appears to associate with. This girl needs to be investigated in a major way. Her and Chelsea know more than they let on and they speak multiple times daily. As I said her phone records would prove a lot. I don’t understand how she was overlooked all along.
Her stories change like the wind blows. She changed her story about what went on at her home the night Haliegh disappeared not to mention she still stood by Tommy the night he had his grandmother call her to have her call the attorney because he had to “tell him something he should have said a long time ago“. She also was running around town after being questioned in April telling everyone they were looking for a yellow rope although this took over a week to air on television. Her van which she got rid of she “lended” out the night of the disappearance. Something just seems out of place with this girl and her stories. After all she is a Croslin and even the ones that are by marriage all seem to be just as shady as the ones who are Croslins by blood.
Hope Tobie has an opinion close to mine or some may gang up on her for no reason, lol I am not too popular with the Ronettes.lol jmo
omg,i even thought Tobias can’t open a tape??????? no way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
rofl! still didn’t notice like Tracy,lol
We have already watched this Tommy and Lindsey video I think
Simon are you sure it was from the latter part of April because there is no talk about the poly, the search or anything.
I think this is from late March or early April.
Well we now see why Tommy stole all the weird things like towels and soaps, to keep Lindsy happy. She is so into herself and loves the attention Tommy gives her. Wonder why she is so nice to NayNay saying she is sweet and not a criminal while Tommy calls her a w@@r*, seems Lindsy likes NayNay more than Tommy? jmo
yeppers Tobias!the pic didn’t post but shes in a black guys lap?
I thought this would be the tape where she gets mad at him for lying? silly girl said there was one out there?jmo
no i am not biased,just pointing it out tho!!!!!!!!
right! i wanna see that one!
Tobie,
What I did was just type VLC then downloaded
They have different downloads.
Any way to find these files in another format besides mp4? My Windows Media player will not play them. :o(
Cathy where did you get that about her in a black guys lap? jmo
Cricket
I gave Tobie the link but they didn’t respond.
Tobias
There is no way this video is from late April. I think Simon made a mistake on the month.
tobias said,
in May 25th, 2010 at 4:17 pm
I thought this would be the tape where she gets mad at him for lying? silly girl said there was one out there?jmo
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so this isn’t that tape of after the LDT and MA trip?
omg,those pix are casey reincarnated,wowwww the handsigns and all!!
No this is Aweek or so before her trip.jmo
report.com tobias
did the link post tobias?
TOBIAS: I have been reading this blog for about 6 weeks. What are we all going to do when this case is ever solved? I’m addicted … it’s convoluted and engrossing.
I have been wanting to tell you that you have a very analytical take on this, and I enjoy your posts. Jaba also is very interesting.
I think my problem is (heh heh) I accidentally uninstalled Windows Media Player, and since I have a bootleg copy of Windows, I am blocked from reinstalling it. I have tried to install that VLC, but don’t know how to make things try to play on anything other than WMP. Any help would be appreciated.
Yes we have seen this video before .
So I see my CathyJo already scooped The Real Lindsy “article”!!
i didn’t see the jail photo thing on this one??
Tobie said,
in May 25th, 2010 at 3:55 pm
CRICKET — What is “VLC”? A website? Still trying to find a way to listen/see the newer videos. Thanks.
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try Quicktime
http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/
P.S. I see Bruizer8 is having the same problem as I am. I think it IS the fact that it’s mp4.
heck yea Adams,rofl you know me,i love juicy tidbits!
Where do I go to see the pix. jmo
tobias, I’ve posted the link twice. Just scroll up
Thank you Simon and Jan for bringing us these tapes and videos and all of your hard work.
I hope no one minds if I note that the date of this visit must have taken place either at the end of March or in the first week of April not at the end of April. Tommy took LE to the river around April 8. I only mention this because Lindsy was so outraged with Tommy she was refusing to talk to him.
That being said, I’m dying to know if she has now talked to Tommy and what they said to eaach other. Till then, these are all fantastic tapes!
Tobie,
this is the one I got.
http://www.videolan.org/vlc/
Link isnt showing up where do I go?
did you get the pic tobias?
Cricket said,in May 25th, 2010 at 4:24 pm Yes we have seen this video before
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Thanks, Cricket. I thought this was the one sillygirl was talking about but I just started listening and thought to myself, I’ve heard this haven’t I.
I’ve listened to so many they all start to sound alike. 😆
/me wonders why Adams thinks she don’t like scoops…..roflmbo!
This is one we have already. This is not the good one.
Tobie, did you go to that link ?
No cathy the link didnt post so I dont know where to go. Just write it out and I will find it. tx
wheres the good one,you don’t like lollipops so thats out Sillygirl,lol
its a sad day when ya can’t bribe somebody wiff a sucker!rofl
ireport.
com/docs/DOC-448351
paste that in addy bar??
Lindsay Croslin Exposed
type that in searchbox!
KeepItReal said,in May 25th, 2010 at 4:38 pm tobias, www ireport com/docs/DOC448351
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looks to be the same shirt in her mountainess?? myspace new pic!
how do yall add emoticons too your posts,they look better,lol
beautiful*adams (cent) said,
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Looks like you were right all along, beautiful!
CathyJo – Site is slow, so hopefully we are getting an upload of the good DVD. If not, then you better start bribing Jan and Simon with those lollipops:)
tried that too sillygirl,lol j/k
CathyJo63 said,in May 25th, 2010 at 4:47 pm how do yall add emoticons too your posts,they look better,lol
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When I post links, my posts don’t get submitted so CathyJo, just google WordPress Emoticons and click on the first link that says using smilies and then go down to all the smilies where it says “Smiley images and the text used to produce them”. The codes there are how the smilies show up in your posts here. 😛
that is weird I can see my posts with the link.
Nothing is working for me.
Keep It Real,
For the sake of the children, I pray I am wrong. But, even if some of the stuff isn’t/is true… the damage alone is crazy.
yea Adams,those kids have a daddy in jail,seeing mommy with a new man…..omg
What addy bar are you taking about I googled the copy and paste and nothing came up.
tobias said,
in May 25th, 2010 at 4:14 pm
Well we now see why Tommy stole all the weird things like towels and soaps, to keep Lindsy happy. She is so into herself and loves the attention Tommy gives her. Wonder why she is so nice to NayNay saying she is sweet and not a criminal while Tommy calls her a w@@r*, seems Lindsy likes NayNay more than Tommy? jmo
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Cause he screwed NayNay and doesn’t want Lindsey to know. And other things he’s said or done behind her back, or lied to her about. And he is jealous of anyone in her life outside jail. And he’s Tom mememememe
=D> Hmmmmmmmm
wow 😯 thats some info on lindsy
nope’lol gonna screw sommin else up,lol
tobias, my 4:38 post will take you to it. just put dots after www and before com
I bet word gets back to Tommy somehow. Someone in the family will see those pics soon enough.
To see the Lindsey story and pictures from today, type in “Lindsey Croslin Exposed” and push search. The guy who reported it just joined that site as a citizen reporter this date.
omg tommy may have already heard it?
if thats true she is creating a hornets nest for those kids as well as herself!
sent it to you Cathy please dont let anyone else have my email okay? thanx
If information is accurate as reported the children are in danger.
deleted from trash too Tobias,afraid to keep em when i am asked not to give them out,you know me,make more mistakes than i do good,lol
so if ya ask,Guarantee ya i won’t!
Video Lan Player Link for those interested
http://www.videolan.org/vlc/
very much so Homespain!
worries me for the kids!
like they’re not gonna be screwed up enuff already?
giving the same signs as casey did in those pix!
brb gotta call ota,havent heard from her today!
that was the double peace sign when I was growin up..isn’t it devil horns now?
wow my eyes are burned. Doyou think she is now the Lindsy that NayNay says is the prostitute that went with them? Funny how that Lindsy never showed up. jmo
Could this be JAY or Wayne she keeps talking about? jmo
I didn’t say devilhorns,lol
I’m a RN and know for a fact that to get licenses, and to keep them there are moral and behavioral expectations. A nurse who is broadcasting drug use, neglecting her children and possibly putting patients at risk with her personal behaviors and drug use.
If she is doing this stuff. She will lose everything she has worked and gone to school for. She could lose her children.
If accurate about Padilla, makes me wonder if this guy has some dementia going on? Or his ego got to him and he’s been around low lifes too much and it’s rubbed off. Like they say, stand near by the fire too long you can get burned.
Those pictures alone just don’t look good on her behalf.
right Tobias and remember she told tommy on a tape awhile back didn’t she a friend was staying with her?
i have no idea OJ,but casey anthoonys pals said a gang sign?
Cathy thanks, I wonder if thses guys are Jay and Wayne she keps talking about? Lisa and Ashley are the girlfriends. jmo
wouldn’t Padilla know she had evidence,i mean my God? if he’s that stupid he deserves it!
right,i dunno but i do believe every word of it,you can just tell by lindseys actions as of LATE?
the pic of her in the green shirt in the kitchen? sure looks happy,not like a woman whose life is falling apart!
what was it she told tommy,62 days was killing her,somehow i don’t think its been 6 days,lol
Sure, do you think she would have ever been free of Tommy unless he was in jail? Listen how he wants everyone to get her to come back and visit and explain things away. He would in my opinion even go against a restraining order. jmo
6 hours even,lol
Hey maybe this is the spin class she has been taking? lol jmo
I knowwwwwwwww he would Tobias,prolly why she feels safe and don’t care now!
nothing he can do whatsoever!! and i dont blame her for tommy,i do blame her for the kids lives tho!
she’s forcing things on them now,its not fair to them,tommys still their daddy and to just replace him with someone,thats cruelllllllllllll
Seriously i dont know if i beleive it but if it is true she needs to change her ways and fast!
All im saying is i could be an ireporter and write an article on our BOMBSHELL for example there are two bloggers at BNN that are having an affair! We know its not true! But whats to say it couldnt happen!
tommy said before you remember,i’ll see my kids,nobody will stop me!
He reminds me of brose’ my husbands friend way back in the day..he was a terror to his wife and kids,he’s the one the cops had to finally shoot on the graveyard i told ya about,tommy the 2nd!
by her behavior,i do believe it,im sorry but the gym thing made me wonder thennnnnnnnnn
right Tanya!!!!!!!!!!
Sorry really bad example but it could happen and we all know its not true!
her whole attitude has changed too tho,does she look like a woman whose waiting for tommy? HELLO NO!
lol tanya,right!
He definitly knows the score otherwise he wouldnt be so afraid. Tommy is really insecure about his marriage. jmo
does she look like a woman whose falling apart HELLO NO?
Even hank when this first broke said Lindsey will have a new man in no time,she can’t live w/o one!
Sure Cathy she is so upset she fainted right onto that guys lap.lol jmo
right Tobias,he told her not to get a tattoo,not to be going out,he hated she was going to the gym and out with her g/f…………..
i can see why!
there ya gooooooo Tobias,and tg his lap was there!
Did you read the comments! Do you think it was really from Keith?
i may get rocked out of here but most women i myself have spoke too in life cannot stand one day without a man,hunny i cant stand a day wiff one,lol I been a good girl for yrs now,lol
they’d have done died! rofl
i noticed the comments at the bottom of the ireport article. Claiming he was the Keith mentioned in the article and what was said wasn’t true.
However those pics dont look good for her or that she’s waiting on Tommy
I dunno keith but i’d bet on it being a guy! lol
omg Tobias,i hate to admit this here…well no i don’t but others might,i cannot hold it tho…..last night one of those tapes tommy said someething regarding a deal?? but the way he said it was and sounded like i hope they give her a dildo! deal tho,lol and i thought omg tommy,she prolly thought of that already,lmao
I wonder if that guy commenting on the story is really Keith?
I tend to think a lot of this is true, but if not, whoa, someone could get sued big time.
Now Ole Lenny likes his publicity, but I don’t think he’d like this very much. I don’t know the man, so who knows. A lot of men do things like that with “vunerable girls” ha ha
right Todd,and the shirt is the same one she has on her myspace pic
Storm,you’re so right,omg padilla dun went insane if he seen it,lol
I don’t see Lindsy living without a man either. She’s so co-dependent it’s not even funny.
/me all embrassed now
i think he will be on N/G with this Bombshell tonight!
So is Keith the guy who was in jail with Tommy or someone else?jmo
exactly my opinion of her too Storm!
tobias said,
in May 25th, 2010 at 5:38 pm
Hey maybe this is the spin class she has been taking? lol jmo
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hahahahahahaha
CathyJo, you are embarrased? What the heck for? Lol
omggggggggggg tanya,now you know i don’t have cable, stop it!!!!
well,i’ve a feeling nobody will have to tell padilla to get around and sit down somewhere now!
CathyJo63 said,in May 25th, 2010 at 5:54 pm omg Tobias,i hate to admit this here…well no i don’t but others might,i cannot hold it tho…..last night one of those tapes tommy said someething regarding a deal?? but the way he said it was and sounded like i hope they give her a dildo! deal tho,lol and i thought omg tommy,she prolly thought of that already,lmao
for this StormGardener,lol
CathyJo63 said,in May 25th, 2010 at 5:54 pm omg Tobias,i hate to admit this here…well no i don’t but others might,i cannot hold it tho…..last night one of those tapes tommy said someething regarding a deal?? but the way he said it was and sounded like i hope they give her a dildo! deal tho,lol and i thought omg tommy,she prolly thought of that already,lmao
for this StormGardener,lol
You guys are so funny sometimes. I have cracked up over your posts a few times. I just don’t get a chance to post. I like to try and read first. I’m really glad you can add a little humor. It would be so easy to get totally depressed over this.
it sounded just like he said that tho,it did!
Lindsey don’t look depressed at all,maybe regressed too long? lol
No wonder Grandad said everyone had to leave. Lidsy said it on the last tape, she said they were probably gonna be a little mad but she was going to Mass and everyone had to leave. jmo
Lol, this is better than a cocktail, Lol, I just can’t drink. Just what I needed after a hard day at work listening to people b*t^# all day.
sometimes i get so stressed with it i can’t wait for somebody to break the tension,lol Storm!
LoL You and me Storm!
some people get offended but really i don’t see why! I mean i care about Haleigh,thats why i’m here but even Haleighly loved to smile and laugh!
Gotta go eat supper see ya all later. TX CATHY
Bingo Tobias!
I am beginning to think someone is holding out on us poor folks here LOL. We want the good DVD!
I think it was the night before last, you guys had me in tears. You & OJ get on a roll sometimes. Cracks me up when you get all fired up. Most of my family are all country folks, so I really can hear you saying these things.
I get the feeling when lindseys tipsy?? you could get her to do or say anything,its just my impression but it comes off strong for me,she just needs attention i think BAD!
yvw Tobias!
This is the April 5th, We want the April 8th:)
really storm,People who know me in person are just stunned and i never once thought of it until i met my exJeff who didn’t like that and it made me notice it more,but i was raised by elderly christian parents and country to da bone,it want till i met him tho that he made me wonder if i wasn’t right in the head? lol really but now after him and its me,i don’t care,I’m just me!
and if i’m like my adopted Mom so what,she had a good heart!
Oh yeah, I can see Lindsy getting wild & crazy as the rest of them. That’s why Tommy gets so upset, he knows how she is.
I’m no fan of Tommy, but I feel for anyone that’s in jail having to hear this kind of stuff about their other half. If this is true, their kids could be in serious danger. If they feel this was a stranger abduction, how is she leaving her kids unsupervised?
and to be honest its why we ain’t married now,TG!!!!!!!!!!!!
well part of it!
right Storm,exactly,and all he can do is take it????????????
could you imagine??
we need sommin Sillygirl!
probably why he got so tore up that day about the call to his lawyer,he shoulda done a long time ago!
he kept begging his family to call her back?
I wonder if any of the family has seen these pictures? It’s just a matter of time. They find out everything else. I’ll have to check out NG for a minute just to see.
BTW: if I had to pay for cable, I wouldn’t have it either. I did not hook it up, or have someone hook it up. It was here when I moved in. I know, I could call & tell them, but why in the world would I? There are very few that would.
There are also some audio files that have not been put out yet.
Storm,did you see the video of ron at the tattoo shop way back in the beginning,i had never seen it and last night i did,was disgusting……and he was so high and even his plea for Haleigh disgusted me and in the meantime his mom tn was giving an interview and said he was to broke?? to be there!
he was 2 and a half hrs away but they caught him anyway,oh he was irate!
i wish i had that,who would exactly? not your fault,you don’t work for the cable co!
changed my entire opinion of him as if i didn’t have a badnuff one now!
As much as I know Tommy deserves to be punished, I hate to see someone feel like that. If she wasn’t going to stand by him, then she should just say so and go on her way. He should still be able to see his kids. Not an ideal setting, but it’s better than not having a Father at all. Other kids would tell them anyway, so better to tell them the truth.
I was so traumatized after my divorce that I never want to do it again. When I meet someone, the first thing I look for is how much they drink. I don’t see anything wrong with social drinking, but some can’t do that. that’s when it gets ugly. Some are funny drunks, he certainly was not
Ron is definetely not an upstanding citizen, but I really don’t see him hurting Haleigh. I believe his lifestyle had everything to do with her being missing for sure. He probably knows it too, but just too late. I’m trying not to judge any of them too harshly. I just see those pictures it it breaks my heart. I do think Haleigh was happy. It’s all she knew. The difference between her & little Caylee is huge. Casey was smiling for the camera, Ron & Haleigh were not.
did everyone get she makes 17.35 an hr.
goodness. I hope her employer sees this- she knows they can.
then tommy says Gods name in vain then rite after says I need to go to church – HAAAAAhaa
thats it,I’ve had my share and when someone goes off while they’re drinking,i want no part of them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I havent drank in yrs myself because with my addiction i had to steer clear of all of it and i did but i don’t mind others who drink and know how to act……….
thats why i say Storm,when i went to keywest with my exfiance……i saw a side of him i never though possible and all because he drank to much and terrified me that night,
those ppl i get the heck away from fast,been through it too much already!
buncha hoodlums Kristie!!!!!! lol really! imo
right storm,tommys no saint but don’t play with emotions,either stick by him or don’t!!!!!!
eeeeeeewwwwwwww they are both Nasty Nasty
if ya can’t handle it,don’t do it is my only opinion about that!
Whoa, I didn’t see that. Well, her public assistance will stop quick if she keeps running her mouth. Is she just working weekends? If so, it wouldn’t be enough to live on. She needs to straighten up. She’s in the public eye right now anyway. I sure as h#l* wouldn’t want to be plastered all over the news. When I worked downtown there were news crews everywhere. I stayed way away so they wouldn’t ask me questions, and I didn’t have a scandal going on like she does. Lol
Kristie – from what I understand they never called her back after the background check according to her on a not yet released tape. Perhaps they did call after that was recorded, but I don’t think so.
kristie,you know tommy liked that! money in his kanteen or canteen,which is it,lol
after today they might do a RE background check!
my daughter phone bbsap
Sillygirl
thats what she gets for bragin – the whole world can see her talkin gross to tom tom ewwww yuk
CathyJo63 said,in May 25th, 2010 at 6:29 pm kristie,you know tommy liked that! money in his kanteen or canteen,which is it,lol
Hahaaa CathyJo now he can buy him a liver burger
She would be hard pressed to get a job right now anyway. They don’t want the publicity, and who could blame them, especially in the medical field. They have heard so much about drugs, I think they’d have a hard time believing she was straight when all she hung around were druggies. Sounds like she might be a pothead just from comments from other family memebers. I don’t know that for a fact cause I obviously didn’t see her burning a big doobie. Lol, I’m sure showing my age now.
Where do you guys find this information anyway? Boy, they can’t keep anything a secret. Somebody is gonna fill in the media for sure. When they don’t have a bombshell they will use it for filler at the least.
that guy keith simpson is in a pic with misty and naynay too somewhere
Who is this Keith guy talking about when he say’s both girls I wonder? He say’s both of them liked him. Is it Misty, Nay Nay? Who knows.
Someone obviously let him know this article was out. So, these pictures were on a public website then? If they are public there’s nothing she can do. However if it’s not true Keith could probably file a lawsuit. You would think somone would know this for sure before publishing though.
Did you guys notice all but one comment has been removed from the ireport site? Hmmm, wonder what happened.
I almost puked up my dinner all over my keyboard listening to Lindsay dirty talk to Tommy. *shakes it off*
ireport article has now been taken down. Guess we’ll have to read CathyJos lol
Oh wow, the entire thing has been taken down now, article, comments and all. Wonder what happened. Could it be it’s not true? Maybe just parts of it. As long as it’s true, you can’t sue for defamation, right? Bet someone gave Leonard a heads up
Ewwww, I have to move on to something else for a while.
Todd, I see why are are losing your supper.
Yuk, I do not want to visualize ole Tommy bumpin uglys with anyone. Poor guy, those ears kill me. I know he can’t help it, but wow
Heyy, watch ya mouff now. Even on the net, i can still HEAR you. I ain’t neva done did nothin’ to none o’ ya’ll so why i gotta be drug into ma owner’s mess?
manomanoman LOL
di’in’t maw tell ya’ll if you ain’t got nuttin’ nice to say then stfu? I know ma owner’s maw done gave him dat wisdum cuz there ain’t neva nuttin’ nice ta say ’bout himm.
correct me if im wrong but isnt this the same guy that was with lindsy on the ireport? I was gonna match em side by side but seems they took that page down.
http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Haleigh%20Cummings/?start=880
think i’m da cutest thang on him, don’t lie. 😛
Haaaaaaaaaaa, my sides are hurting. Hey, Tommy’s Ears, did CaffyJo put you up to that? tee hee hee
Oh Boy
I’m crackin up, lol!
Todd said,in May 25th, 2010 at 6:58 pm I almost puked up my dinner all over my keyboard listening to Lindsay dirty talk to Tommy. *shakes it off*
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OMG Grossssssssss!!! I puked my guts up but Thank God with the help of that wooden spoon I managed to get em’ all back down!
I don’t even think i could stand them dang ears sitting on my tv to get a signal,I’ll stay cable free!
Reckon somebody pulled on them ears one too many times? I bet his Mama pulled on them all the way thru the Piggly Wiggly
he did miss his calling though,My God Tommy could be a perfect argument for birth control and put his pic on condoms packages…….oh instant turn off!!!!!!!!
he must be baby Happy New yr all growd up now.
CathyJo63 said,in May 25th, 2010 at 7:39 pm he did miss his calling though,My God Tommy could be a perfect argument for birth control and put his pic on condoms packages…….oh instant turn off!!!!!!!!
HAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaa
that is SSSSSSSSSSOOOOOOOOOOO Funny! CathyJO!
he’d make a killin’
Ya think the pics on ireport are the ones she sent to Tommy?
omg i am serious,thats would make ya think,hell even drag queens would think!
not even rose colored glasses and the strongest win ever would help ya get it back!!
Hey, it’s not too late for his pic to be on the condom wrapper. Lindsy could make money to buy her that car she keeps hinting about. Is Leonard their banker now? Not hard to figure out who she’s talking about.
wine
CathyJo63 said,in May 25th, 2010 at 7:41 pm omg i am serious,thats would make ya think,hell even drag queens would think!
HAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAA
omg omg omg omg omg….i love a laff but this is a sick laff that lasts and lasts and lasts and then ya dream about it too..omg ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
talk about making teenagers think,hell our grandparents would all get divorced probably!
Oh, please Lord, don’t let me dream about Tommy. I thought dreaming about the ex was bad. Guess it’s a toss up
stormgardner said,in May 25th, 2010 at 5:54 pm I wonder if that guy commenting on the story is really Keith?
I tend to think a lot of this is true, but if not, whoa, someone could get sued big time.
Now Ole Lenny likes his publicity, but I don’t think he’d like this very much. I don’t know the man, so who knows. A lot of men do things like that with “vunerable girls” ha ha
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yur smart I didnt think of that- maybe it wasnt him.
but the page is gone now.
if it looks like tommy
smells like tommy
has floppy ears
its tommy….rofl ewwwwwwwww
damn good argument for birth control!
You guys are killin me LOL I’ll never be the same. This is just TOO FUNNY!
CathyJo63 said,in May 25th, 2010 at 7:45 pm talk about making teenagers think,hell our grandparents would all get divorced probably!
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HAHA sumone beat him with the ugly stick!
put his pic up at the health dept. Nobody wants no free condoms or the ones ya pay for either!
Kristie, it sure is, all of it now.
Anyone catch the author’s name? Anyone copy & paste the article? I don’t think that’s the last we’ve heard about it. It’s gone for a reason. You can’t take away those images of Lindsy. Someone has them now.
omg kristie,he fell outta the ugly tree and hit every branch,leaf and root!
beauty is only skin deep,but ugly is to da bone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CathyJo63 said,in May 25th, 2010 at 7:47 pm put his pic up at the health dept. Nobody wants no free condoms or the ones ya pay for either!
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haha im dyin here needed to laugh too !
something bad happened to the guy,i didn’t know it was possible………….i mean thats drasticcccccccccc
haaaaa, ugly stick for sure. Be a good argument for the HS kids for the abstinence program. Bet more would sign that contract.
something bad happened to the guy,i didn’t know it was possible………….i mean thats drasticcccccccccc
This guy KS says the Ireport isnt true????? well, I saw the report and the pictures…it showed Lindsy sitting in his lap, turned around and kissing him in the mouth, so I sure do beleve the article…..Why in the world are people willing to give her a break, when she thinks Naynay is the “sweetest thing” and she allowed all these druggies to live with her own chldren,,,,this woman has placed her own children in harms way, ever since we heard of her,,,Feb 10, 2009…..It could have been one of her own kids who went missing instead of Haleigh….I believe she is still and will continue a lifestyle of lowlife context, that children should never be exposed to…I also hope the Dcfs, there in Pcoast, keeps a close eye on all 3 of her kids,,,,they really need it…Lindsy is no better than any other Croslin…period….poor kids, dont have a chance….IMOO
This guy KS says the Ireport isnt true????? well, I saw the report and the pictures…it showed Lindsy sitting in his lap, turned around and kissing him in the mouth, so I sure do beleve the article…..Why in the world are people willing to give her a break, when she thinks Naynay is the “sweetest thing” and she allowed all these druggies to live with her own chldren,,,,this woman has placed her own children in harms way, ever since we heard of her,,,Feb 10, 2009…..It could have been one of her own kids who went missing instead of Haleigh….I believe she is still and will continue a lifestyle of lowlife content, that children should never be exposed to…I also hope the Dcfs, there in Pcoast, keeps a close eye on all 3 of her kids,,,,they really need it…Lindsy is no better than any other Croslin…period….poor kids, dont have a chance….IMOO
This guy KS says the Ireport isnt true????? well, I saw the report and the pictures…it showed Lindsy sitting in his lap, turned around and kissing him in the mouth, so I sure do beleve the article…..Why in the world are people willing to give her a break, when she thinks Naynay is the “sweetest thing” and she allowed all these druggies to live with her own chldren,,,,this woman has placed her own children in harms way, ever since we heard of her,,,Feb 10, 2009…..It could have been one of her own kids who went missing instead of Haleigh….I believe she is still and will continue a lifestyle of lowlife content, that children should never be exposed to…I also hope the Dcfs, there in Pcoast, keeps a close eye on all 3 of her kids,,,,they really need it…Lindsy is no better than any other Croslin…period….poor kids, dont have a chance….IMOO
omg he’s whatcha call a 2 bagger,put a bag over his head and yours just incase his or yours comes off omg ewwwwwwwww
CathyJo63 said,in May 25th, 2010 at 7:48 pm omg kristie,he fell outta the ugly tree and hit every branch,leaf and root!
CathyJo63 said,in May 25th, 2010 at 7:49 pm beauty is only skin deep,but ugly is to da bone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CathyJo Cathyjo CathyJo!
why does ths keep reposting????sorry guys..
My pc is so slow tonight.
So that is Keith in one of the pics? I didn’t catch that.
Highscool my eye Storm,sunday school,worship………..the tavern
stormgardner said,in May 25th, 2010 at 7:48 pm Kristie, it sure is, all of it now.
Anyone catch the author’s name? Anyone copy & paste the article? I don’t think that’s the last we’ve heard about it. It’s gone for a reason. You can’t take away those images of Lindsy. Someone has them now.
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ewww well u gav me a funny idea- keep a look out for a funny link from me.
it does that sometimes,a glitch and look at the subject,Southern…….wanted to make sure we knew.lol
CathyJo,
Nancy Grace, did not scream Bombshell tonight
Lindsy Croslin, we have pictures to prove
and a letter that she’s a whoe.
This baffles me because those pictures were on CNN. I wonder whats with her she Lies all the time why isn’t jumping on this tonight.?
Ole Lenny is getting his media attention now isnt he…….This whole thing is nasty…I just wish there were no kids involved.
OMG, if it wasn’t so sad, it would be funny to send them to Tommy. I wouldn’t do it cause I wouldn’t want to hurt his feelings, but the poor guy should know she’s out acting like a ho. Well, guess it’s not an act after seeing this stuff.
hmmmmm,musta had sommin to do wiff somebody n’g has her eye on,lmao
Yea, Cathyjo,,,I have always wondered why so many gave LC the benefit, and kudos when the divorce came up…she allowed Tommy to drive HER kid to school druuged up and whacked out…What decent mother does that????
or she had phone sex too,roflmao
exactly,she knew he was on drugs bad,left em with tommy the night haleigh disappeared and look what happened?
now ole linny will get around and set down for awhile,knew it would happen before long,
and he bought the puter!
There is a GOOD reason,,,,alllll the Croslins are being exposed….Dfacs in Florida,,,are you listening???
we need Adams right now,give us her rendition of n/g having phone sex
put his face up on the screen now,i wanna see tommy and them big ole radars………noww i said hurry hurry,im gettin there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
roflmao!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lenny bought her the puter WITH THE WEBCAM,,,,FOR A REASON…..JUST SAYING
now theres a match made in forsaken city!
This really bothers me. Why aren’t these people worried their children may come up missing? You know, I was giving them the benefit of a doubt til we knew for sure whether or not it was a stranger abduction. They don’t appear worried. I wouldn’t let my kids out of my sight for a second if I even remotely thought it was a stranger that took Haleigh. Makes me re-think everything. I was starting to think it was possible that it was. Could still be I guess, but just from their actions, makes you wonder.
hate to say it southern,no hell no i don’t but i knewwwwwwww it,wondered then!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Storm exactly,its almost like they envy ronald!
jeeeeeeeeeeeeez
like puttin a big ole red x on their forehead and their names on the back of their shirt so a creep will know the right name to yell?? lol sheeeeeeeeeesh
i never had one made when every other kid in school had one,my daughter heck no,a kid don’t think.hey he read my name off my shirt?? ya know
He did get her one with a webcam. That’s not really necessary now, is it? Mine doesn’t have one. Well, I have one now, but not hooked up. My sons gonna do it. My reason is to see the kids since they moved. Hell I don’t want anyone else seeing me with my hair all sticking up, smoking a cigarette drinking my coffee. Scary enough for me to look at. Lol
Something about the way Lindsy, talkng to Tommy said,,,”I’ll let you know, after talkng to my friend”,,referring to the car deal….Lindsy sure does know how to manipulate things doesnt she…All these people , if you sit back, read and listen, you will see just how low they can go to get what they want….every single one of them….
Storm, Im with ya on the ciggy and coffee,,,,,THERE was NO reason to provide Lindsy with a webcam,,,was it???? I mean, just to talk to her, right????
lindsey is making it easy to get her kids taken Storm,ok lets say she is with a guy naynay and misty knew,well my god she dunno who took Haleigh yet for certain????????? could be that guy,not sayiing it is but if she dunno???????????
I meant southern tooooo,my last comment sorry
Not trying to start any crap, but Tommy’s the one that told her to call her friend. Does he think everyone is going to pass out money & cars and get nothing in return? Sorry it doesn’t work that way.
Heck back years ago when I’d go out with my friends I’d buy my own drinks. I didn’t want anyone thinking I owed them any darn thing. Well, unless it was one of the regulars and they knew I wasn’t a hoochie. We bought theirs too occasionly. Women make bad mistakes like that.
i have a brand new puter too,i didn’t buy it but i didn’t want or need a cam? on it,silly .i did wonder why the cam and even that thought crossed my mind even then? honest!
and wether padilla is guilty or not,hes now in the boat misty and all them are,no proof,words out so he hung himself!
exactly southern and i do still believe she meant padilla cuz if it were anybody else tommy would have demanded to know
Hey yaLL how’s everyone tonight? Thanks CathyJo for your links, I am going to watch them as soon as I put my 3yr old to bed.
((actually, I cannot tell a lie…I was out getting a tatoo of Ron on my “lower back”…to quote Art!!!))) sigh…..it’s sosoo pretty, CathyJo!!!!
Let me send u a pic!!!!!!!
OOPs, I’ll wait while ya get a bucket..
sorry, should have warned u.
My bff Mizz Nancee got one too, only her’s is on her upper thigh.
DANG IT, she won the toss.
stormgardner said,in May 25th, 2010 at 7:48 pm Kristie, it sure is, all of it now.
Anyone catch the author’s name? Anyone copy & paste the article? I don’t think that’s the last we’ve heard about it. It’s gone for a reason. You can’t take away those images of Lindsy. Someone has them now.
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article and pics are up at scaredmonkeys
Cricket said,in May 25th, 2010 at 7:56 pm CathyJo,
Nancy Grace, did not scream Bombshell tonight
Lindsy Croslin, we have pictures to prove
and a letter that she’s a whoe.
This baffles me because those pictures were on CNN. I wonder whats with her she Lies all the time why isn’t jumping on this tonight.?
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yea I looked earlier on her site and it was supposed to be about the Haleigh Case.then it changed and the pics are no longer there.
I don’t know why, but i just got chills thinking about that. I mean Lindsy not knowing who took Haleigh. There she is having every Tom Dick & Harry over. What does she know about these people? Even if you think you know someone, you don’t always know everything. That’s the idea with some, to win your trust, then Bam! How would she feel then?
Southernvagirl: you got me thinking about that webcam. I never believed anything Lenny ever said. He contradicted his self so many times. I think he just likes to hear himself talk. I never could figure out why NG had him on so much. She knew he was full of it.
BTW,I love cowboys. He is sure not what comes to mind when I think about one either!
i cut cc&p everything,ahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa brb
OMG Cathy u said the Adams and u made me think of tommy on the adams family!
Thanks OJ, I knew someone would know. You rock.
I went on Scared Monkeys a couple times, but they have so many pop ups, I was afraid I’d get another virus. My other pc crashed.
shoot ill look more but yall might be interested in this one too,just found!
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CHELSEA CROSLIN: IMPLICATING JOE OVERSTREET
Nancy Grace – April 16, 2010
CHELSEA CROSLIN, MISTY CROSLIN`S SISTER-IN-LAW: I`ve always from day one believed that Joe did have some sort of part in Haleigh`s disappearance, just from the different things, from the van being moved, the scratch. I don`t believe that Tommy and Misty could do anything to harm a child.
JEAN CASAREZ, GUEST HOST: You were sent a letter from Misty in jail. We received a copy of that letter. And that letter that Misty wrote says to you, “He put me up with a knife, and he said that if he would come back and he`d kill me. He told me at the house he would kill me, so I didn`t know what to do.” Who`s Misty talking about right there?
CHELSEA CROSLIN: She`s talking about Joe.
CASAREZ: Describe for me what she wrote in this letter in detail. It`s a little hard to read. But tell us all.
CHELSEA CROSLIN: The letter basically states that she — Joe came in to steal the gun. She didn`t know the gun was gone. When she looked for the gun, the gun wasn`t there. Joe freaked out and took Haleigh. She said that she had seen Tommy in the back door, and when she looked back again, he was gone. So she said that she didn`t know what, you know, Tommy — part Tommy might — I don`t believe Tommy had a part in it, just she was implicating that maybe Tommy had known that Joe was there.
CASAREZ: We`re going to talk to Joe`s attorney in just a minute. But Chelsea, what would be the motive to do that? Why?
CHELSEA CROSLIN: I don`t see why anybody in the world would have motive to hurt a child.
CASAREZ: But you must have talked to people. What do people believe the motive for anyone to do something like that?
CHELSEA CROSLIN: I don`t know Joe. And as far as I know, I`ve been told Joe is — is crazy. So I don`t know what he could do.
CASAREZ: And we want to say that cousin Joe is not a suspect in this case.
CASAREZ: I`m Jean Casarez of the legal network In Session, in for Nancy Grace tonight. You know, law enforcement had said on the record that they were looking for physical evidence in the St. John`s River, and our affiliate WJXT is reporting tonight that two cinderblocks were pulled from the river. They have been sent now for testing.
I want to go back out to Chelsea Croslin, who is with us tonight, the sister-in-law of Misty. Chelsea, you had mentioned before we went to break about a van. And I remember you talking to law enforcement early on about a van. You were using a van at that time in Florida, and that night, it was borrowed by someone. Is that right?
CHELSEA CROSLIN: Yes, it is. It was my sister-in-law`s van.
CASAREZ: And who borrowed it that night?
CHELSEA CROSLIN: Well, I borrowed it from my sister-in-law. And when I woke up the next day, the van was parked in a different spot than I had parked it. So I assumed that the van had been taken from the home that night.
CASAREZ: Do you know who drove it?
CHELSEA CROSLIN: If anybody drove it, it had to have been Joe.
CASAREZ: Why?
CHELSEA CROSLIN: Because my husband was sleeping next to me. He had just been in a car accident and he was on medication. He was asleep hours before I was.
CASAREZ: What about Tommy? Why couldn`t Tommy have taken the van?
CHELSEA CROSLIN: Because Tommy lived at least three miles from where my house was. And it was Tommy`s van, but he lent it to us that night. Joe would have had to have taken the van from my house to go back to that neighborhood. Tommy lived right next to where Misty and Haleigh did, about six houses apart.
CASAREZ: Where was Joe that night? Where was Joe? I mean, was he driving around? Was he sleeping? Where was he? This happened very late at night.
SHAWN SIRGO, ATTORNEY FOR JOE OVERSTREET: He was sleeping, and he was woken up by the same phone call at approximately 4:00 AM.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1004/16/ng.01.html
Police Follow Up on New Leads in 5-Year-Old Haleigh Cummings Case
April 15, 2010
In an interview with the media Thursday in Nashville, Overstreet, 20, broke into tears when he was asked about any possible connection to Haleigh’s disappearance.
“If I knew who did it, I would go straight and call the cops and tell them who did it,” said Overstreet, according to ABC News’ Nashville affiliate WKRN.
His attorney, Shawn Sirgo, said his client is being targeted by family members.
“I do believe siblings have gotten together, substantiated a story that they can’t even keep straight, that the lies lead to lies, that the admissions keep modifying,” Sirgo said
http://abcnews.go.com/US/haleigh-cummings-family-points-fingers-search-missing-girl/story?id=10384095
Nancy Grace – April 19, 2010
SHAWN SIRGO, ATTORNEY FOR JOE OVERSTREET: We`re officers of the court. And I`m not going to weigh in on speculation or guess — guessing when the police have an ongoing investigation.
I just know that my client, Joseph, is innocent. He had nothing to do with this. And he`s being thrown under the rug by people who may and possibly do have something to hide.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1004/19/ng.01.html
CathyJo63 said,in May 25th, 2010 at 7:53 pm omg he’s whatcha call a 2 bagger,put a bag over his head and yours just incase his or yours comes off omg ewwwwwwwww
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CathyJO! everyone here keeps sayin whats so funny! haha
I AM MY FATHERS EYES!
only one is the one i cc&p here at the top OJ But no name of the one who posted it!
he is Kristie.if i ever seen one……..lol
I can’t find it on SM either. I admit I’m not real good navigating some of the sights. I could have overlooked it. Anyone else find it? Don’t know why I even care, I think I just wanted to see if there were anymore comments.
stormgardner said,in May 25th, 2010 at 8:13 pm Not trying to start any crap, but Tommy’s the one that told her to call her friend. Does he think everyone is going to pass out money & cars and get nothing in return? Sorry it doesn’t work that way.
Heck back years ago when I’d go out with my friends I’d buy my own drinks. I didn’t want anyone thinking I owed them any darn thing. Well, unless it was one of the regulars and they knew I wasn’t a hoochie. We bought theirs too occasionly. Women make bad mistakes like that.
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If it starts crap it just does cause i see it that way myself..tommy knew it meant money!
hav yall already seen the video of the girl rons been talkin to?
heres a link its the pic on the right.
http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Haleigh%20Cummings/?start=280
i am looking everywhere too! brb an idea?
Hi, Armando!
Kristie, sometimes it gets real funny here I think. Someone breaks the tension, then the other one runs with it.
Darn, I still can’t get used to this new keyboard. I hate it. It’s a new laptop. I had to get something when mine crashed. I keep hitting the wrong keys,then sometimes things just disappear.
stormgardner said,in May 25th, 2010 at 8:33 pm Kristie, sometimes it gets real funny here I think. Someone breaks the tension, then the other one runs with it.
Darn, I still can’t get used to this new keyboard. I hate it. It’s a new laptop. I had to get something when mine crashed. I keep hitting the wrong keys,then sometimes things just disappear.
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I dont get in to the tension part- Im so easy goin. Love the Laughter. I just got a new inspiron and I do the same thing- I love and and can type faster on it- just forget sometimes Im hitten somethin wrong.
tobias said,
in May 25th, 2010 at 5:48 pm
Sure Cathy she is so upset she fainted right onto that guys lap.lol jmo
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Yea, that’s it Tobias. I knew she was a good girl. And when she fell off that guy’s lap she fell on her chest and her boobs swelled up like the Teton mountains. Poor girl they’re still swollen.
i can use desktop well,can’t even turn a laptop on,intimidated i guess,lol
lol homespain,only 2 suckers she can trust now,lol as i have always said!
Wow, I’ve been messing around on here and didn’t eat supper. Time got away from me.
Cathy Jo, I bet you make some mean biscuts & gravy. Guess I’ll have to wait til I get to Virginia for some. Aunt Lou will make me some. No way I could ever make them like her. She makes it look so darn easy. (can you tell I’m hungry?) Lol
my husband always loved my big “cathead biscuits” what he called em,lol
Nice chatting with yall…gotta go to bed…Yea, about the webcam…it does make you think…doesnt it????? Why did LP want her to have one, if not to be able to see what was on the other end of his connecton???? eeeuuuuuwwww goodnte folks
shoot,this is no lie,i can cook a meal for 50 people in half hour flat,but just for me or 2-3 more,I cannot..it takes me 2 hrs.
I learned to cook for an army!!!!and did that for 25 yrs…seriously! now when the smoke alarm goes off,its done!lol
gnite southern’
Kristie, I don’t get into the tension part either. It can get pretty heated sometimes. I just let them go at it unless it’s something I just can’t keep quiet about. Even then, someone usually has the same idea that I do and expresses it pretty well.
hav yall already seen the video of the girl rons been talkin to?
heres a link its the pic on the right.
http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Haleigh%20Cummings/?start=280
wonder who she is?
me too now Storm!!!
Nite Southern, good talking to you.
i try to laff it off but don’t always work,lol
stormgardner said,in May 25th, 2010 at 8:41 pm Kristie, I don’t get into the tension part either. It can get pretty heated sometimes. I just let them go at it unless it’s something I just can’t keep quiet about. Even then, someone usually has the same idea that I do and expresses it pretty well.
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thats good- its nice to get to know some of you a little. I moved to Houston 4 yrs ago and still dont know too many people. so its fun bloggin on here- I never got online that much till I got to where this case got too quite and I was so curious. I used to find people for a living so I am interested in stuff like this.
CathyJo63 said,in May 25th, 2010 at 8:43 pm i try to laff it off but don’t always work,lol
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well Im glad your here CathJO
just i have seen some just go off cause you laugh in here but dang,if i had a chance to laff at a funeral i guess i would,the more tense a place is the harder i laugh!lol
Southernvagirl said,
in May 25th, 2010 at 7:52 pm
This guy KS says the Ireport isnt true????? well, I saw the report and the pictures…it showed Lindsy sitting in his lap, turned around and kissing him in the mouth, so I sure do beleve the article…..Why in the world are people willing to give her a break, when she thinks Naynay is the “sweetest thing” and she allowed all these druggies to live with her own chldren,,,,this woman has placed her own children in harms way, ever since we heard of her,,,Feb 10, 2009…..It could have been one of her own kids who went missing instead of Haleigh….I believe she is still and will continue a lifestyle of lowlife context, that children should never be exposed to…I also hope the Dcfs, there in Pcoast, keeps a close eye on all 3 of her kids,,,,they really need it…Lindsy is no better than any other Croslin…period….poor kids, dont have a chance….IMOO
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CathyJo63 said,in May 25th, 2010 at 8:41 pm shoot,this is no lie,i can cook a meal for 50 people in half hour flat,but just for me or 2-3 more,I cannot..it takes me 2 hrs.
I learned to cook for an army!!!!and did that for 25 yrs…seriously! now when the smoke alarm goes off,its done!lol
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Oh MY- We need to see you on a cookin show
lov to see that
Same here. I hate cooking just for myself. I eat a lot of cereal these days, or some grits or oatmeal if I have to have something hot. Well, Stouffers cooks pretty good. Lol
I was used to making for a pretty good sized family (well, teen boys are like an army) and I don’t know how to cook just a little. Once in a while I have to have some good ol liver N onions, then I know I’ll have to make it myself.
Cathead biscuits. Cracks me up. I can honestly say I’ve never heard them called that. Lol
Southernvagirl said,
in May 25th, 2010 at 8:12 pm
Storm, Im with ya on the ciggy and coffee,,,,,THERE was NO reason to provide Lindsy with a webcam,,,was it???? I mean, just to talk to her, right????
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you can see who u r talking. Someone else may pretend to be him or her.
does anyone know the girl rons talking to? guess she just came out of the woodwork.
me and my family when i was a kid,lol went to my adads moms funeral and ya know the elevator music they played back then? i said i swear if they don’t change that music,i can’t take it,my bro n law jessie looked right at me and said,My God..what do ya want em to play..staying alive by the beegees…and omg..i had to go ouside for hours..couldn’t straighten up!
me and my family when i was a kid,lol went to my adads moms funeral and ya know the elevator music they played back then? i said i swear if they don’t change that music,i can’t take it,my bro n law jessie looked right at me and said,My God..what do ya want em to play..staying alive by the beegees…and omg..i had to go ouside for hours..couldn’t straighten up!
CathyJo63 said,in May 25th, 2010 at 8:47 pm me and my family when i was a kid,lol went to my adads moms funeral and ya know the elevator music they played back then? i said i swear if they don’t change that music,i can’t take it,my bro n law jessie looked right at me and said,My God..what do ya want em to play..staying alive by the beegees…and omg..i had to go ouside for hours..couldn’t straighten up!
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Oh CathyJO
ur a mess and a half 🙂
While in jail on drug charges we learn that Ronald makes a friend. A woman by the name of Alecia Dunbar (hat tip to the posters on the Scared Monkeys forum especially BeatnicHippie who outted Alecia Dunbar.) Dunbar also has a weird fascination with Joran Vandersloot in the Natalee Holloway case.
yea Kristie but i still don’t look like tommy……..rofl
one time our Pastor was praying and it was so quite and my daughter and I noticed this boy we knew snoring in front of us- and I said please dont laugh and she culdnt help it – so we both Busted out laughin while he was praying and we got stared at uh huh
CathyJo63 said,in May 25th, 2010 at 8:50 pm yea Kristie but i still don’t look like tommy……..rofl
Thank God for that
Kristi i’d love to have a cookin show,lol
but i could do her,and believe it or not,i did it on a coal cooking stove!
kristie said,in May 25th, 2010 at 8:44 pm CathyJo63 said,in May 25th, 2010 at 8:43 pm i try to laff it off but don’t always work,lol
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well Im glad your here CathJO
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WOW CathyJo Thats Cool. I Love to cook. every since I started staying home I learned to cook everything authentic. I Love Italian food and Mexican- I can cook it all.
lol kristie,omg i’ve had the most embrassing things happenn because of it but omg,can’t help it!
homespain, I didn’t think about that. With this case and all the asking for money, I guess I can understand that. Still not convinced that’s all it was though..
OMG, that funeral remark is freaking hilarious. I had to run to the ladies room. It sure beats the story I was going to tell. Lol, that’s great. You have to find some humor somewhere.
I made a 3 tier cake for my daughters sweet 16 last month and it looked great- about killed me- I had to watch u tube to figure out how to make it.
stormgardner said,in May 25th, 2010 at 8:46 pm Same here. I hate cooking just for myself. I eat a lot of cereal these days, or some grits or oatmeal if I have to have something hot. Well, Stouffers cooks pretty good. Lol
I was used to making for a pretty good sized family (well, teen boys are like an army) and I don’t know how to cook just a little. Once in a while I have to have some good ol liver N onions, then I know I’ll have to make it myself.
Cathead biscuits. Cracks me up. I can honestly say I’ve never heard them called that. Lol
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so you know what i mean? lol
hunny,i can’t make a cake? less its outta the box,lol and a pie forget it,tried once and the crust was 6 inches thick prolly,lol
stormgardner said,in May 25th, 2010 at 8:46 pm Same here. I hate cooking just for myself. I eat a lot of cereal these days, or some grits or oatmeal if I have to have something hot. Well, Stouffers cooks pretty good. Lol
I was used to making for a pretty good sized family (well, teen boys are like an army) and I don’t know how to cook just a little. Once in a while I have to have some good ol liver N onions, then I know I’ll have to make it myself.
Cathead biscuits. Cracks me up. I can honestly say I’ve never heard them called that. Lol
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I was working on a cookbook that was awsome until my little one got sick. I need to finish it someday- my sister lives byherself and i always send her good recipes and ideas.
oh lol storm,big as a cats head?? lol
CathyJo63 said,in May 25th, 2010 at 8:57 pm hunny,i can’t make a cake? less its outta the box,lol and a pie forget it,tried once and the crust was 6 inches thick prolly,lol
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Oh Cathy HAHAAAAAAAAAa
6 inch thick Pie heehee
the biscuits in the army they say is mighty fine,
one rolled off the table and killed a friend of mine,lol
the biscuits in the army they say is mighty fine,
one rolled off the table and killed a friend of mine,lol
i’m useless with a recipe?? just memory,lol
Located that Alecia Dunbar ina social website w/ what appears to be a picture of Ron and his two kids. The pic is small so not positive. Elsewhere found a remote ip address and email address for her.
its true Kristie..lol
CathyJo63 said,in May 25th, 2010 at 8:50 pm While in jail on drug charges we learn that Ronald makes a friend. A woman by the name of Alecia Dunbar (hat tip to the posters on the Scared Monkeys forum especially BeatnicHippie who outted Alecia Dunbar.) Dunbar also has a weird fascination with Joran Vandersloot in the Natalee Holloway case.
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Oh My Ron better watch it-
omg his kids?
neat Kristie,I would!!!!!
cookbook i mean,if i were you i’d do it!
LoL He had her buying him phone time and all……..sheesh
Goodness, you guys are making me hungry. You can both come & cook at my house anytime.
I was at my kids MaMaw’s funeral. Her sister & one of the brothers in law who are hard of hearing was talking above the preacher, bless their hearts, they couldn’t help it. They were saying “well, I don’t know what he’s a sayin, but I reckon it’s all right. Some of the family was pecking on their shoulders to tell them to be quiet, but some just couldn’t help but laugh, the preacher included. The sister is 89 years old, so I don’t think she really cares what others think. She said she was at the nursing home takin care of those old people.
arent there more tapes coming?
Yup She is definitely Alecia Kay Dunbar in face book with Ron and Haleigh picture, different one
I found this guys..hmm
whatcha think?
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Very interesting to me, the theory that some on other boards have… that perhaps TN is the mastermind of all, that all this seeming ‘cover-up’ is everyone covering for her, that she is in this up to her eyeballs.
When the odd things about TN are listed, one after another, it becomes rather overwhemingly possible that she knows everything, perhaps was even the one to blame for Haleigh’s death. Perhaps not the one responsible, but the main one leading a cover-up for her death. And at the very least, perhaps was the one who has kept everything from falling apart for all this time, until it reached the point that she had no further control. (the trafficking charges).
Think about all that we’ve read from and about TN, and when the list goes around the corner and 5 miles down the road, you may begin to get a picture of what I’m talking about.
There’s too many things to remember off the top of my head. Here’s just a few things from what I’ve read here and elsewhere online. Maybe we could start our own thread on all the different things we’ve learned, and some of the things we are wondering, just about TN?
~TN knew that Oxys have a bitter taste. From what I understand about Oxys, the only time it tastes bitter is when the coating is removed in order to get a faster high. Soooooo… how does TN know about this?
~ A side note… Did anyone else realize that Oxys can be crushed or whatever and used in a nebulizer? Haleigh used a nebulizer. Did someone else use hers, didn’t clean it out, and perhaps Haleigh OD’d when she used it again?
~ TN had been in a car accident, was in pain and off work. Was she taking pain pills? Did she have a prescrip for Oxys? Did Haleigh perhaps get ahold of one of HER pain pills?
~ TN said that ‘she sent’ AS over to the MH that night, yet didn’t volunteer that info up until about 2 weeks later. And still didn’t mention, at that time, the family member who came along with AS, who just by chance, happens to be a nurse. Was something wrong with Haleigh? Had she ‘fallen asleep’ and couldn’t be awakened, fell into a coma, was she having some kind of physical reaction to having somehow been given (or had taken) something that was causing her great distress? Was the family member who is a nurse brought over to help care for Haleigh? Is that what the 8:30p (or so) fight on the phone with Ron was about? Perhaps them telling him that they’d take care of things, and for him to stay at work and act as if all was well??? (wouldn’t you just lovvvvvvve to see the phone records for everyone for that night?? whose phone pinged where….)
~ Was the blanket that ‘they took’ actually something used by.. perhaps TN/AS and/or another family member.. rather than the guys that we’ve been thinking did that? Wrapped in a blanket, Haleigh’s body ‘could have’ been placed in the back of a little red truck, just as easily as in a blue van. Just saying….
~ Where were the ‘other family members’ that night, between the hours of 9p and 4a? I’m talking about TN, AS, Hope, Crystal Cummings (Ron’s sister), and all the various aunts/uncles/cousins?? Do they have alibis? We’ve heard that TN was busy. Have we heard what she was busy doing? Could any of them besides the main players have been the ones burying Haleigh, before/while the MH was being cleaned up and 911 was then called?
~ Could Misty actually be telling the truth, that she was asleep (ie passed out), or so dang ‘out of it’ that she didn’t know what went on that night? Is it possible that Misty has been set up to be the ‘fall guy’, while others in Ron’s family took care of cleaning things up and creating a script for everyone to follow? Then ‘telling’ Misty what her part in all this would be, what to say, what to do……. or else? Misty, being so dang ‘out of it’ having no clear memory of anything at all, goes along with it, perhaps not realizing that she’s been thrown under the bus? Is that why she is so dang ‘fuzzy’ about everything? Her inconsistencies being the different things she can remember, as well as what others have said and/or told her? And Ron, perhaps threatening her with his ever-present gun, to go along with what she is told? Not to say that Misty is totally innocent in all this… Just saying that ‘maybe’ she is not as ‘guilty’ as she seems. Things ‘could have’ been set up for her to be the guilty one, taken advantage of, perhaps, because she was so ‘out of it’ already and likely wouldn’t remember. What if???????
~ TN got to the MH in a fast hurry that night, brought that 8×10 glossy pic of Haleigh with her, and just happened to wear her LE jacket, altho she hadn’t worked for them in some time. She ‘could have’ been somewhere other than one of her homes (like 60 miles away or so) that night, but if so, would she ‘just happened to have’ a huge pic of Haleigh with her? Did she perhaps show up with that 8×10 pic in order to help give the impression that Haleigh had been abducted? Why else come with pic in hand?
~ Speaking of TN’s various homes, why did she report living at the one that was so far away, yet it was found that she actually lived much closer? Why so mysterious about where she actually lives? What is so important about these various homes, that TN seems to feel a need to be so mysterious?
~ It was reported by someone in the area that ‘a red truck’ was seen parked that night near the railroad tracks. TN drives/drove a red truck. Is that how she got there so fast? Had already been at the MH, left before LE showed up, told Ron to call her, parked a little way from the MH, so she could ‘arrive’ there just after LE did?
~ Could everyone be covering for something that happened to Haleigh, which involved TN? Would Ron work so dang hard at this, covering for his mother… all the while we’ve been thinking TN has been covering for him?
I got lots more, just on TN, that has been said her and elsewhere online… am sure others can add to this list. But for the sake of length, in this thread, I’ll end it here for now.
from scaredmonkeys
roflmao@storm!!!!!!!!
homespain said,in May 25th, 2010 at 8:59 pm Located that Alecia Dunbar ina social website w/ what appears to be a picture of Ron and his two kids. The pic is small so not positive. Elsewhere found a remote ip address and email address for her.
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look at her myspace- shes got ron and his kids allll over it.
and her mood is —- tutti fruiti HAHA
http://www.myspace.com/qtgrrlalecia
You guys are killing me. My side actually hurts. A good ole belly laugh is good for you sometimes.
OMG, what’s wrong with some of these women who actually seek out these criminals. Are they that desperate? I hope they don’t have kids. How scary is that?
A picture of Ron’s kids? No way would I send a picture of my kids to a stranger. That would have to be TN that sent it I guess. Ron can’t send his only pictures. Wait til Misty hears about that.
i do wonder why gs washed laundry and brought it but managed not to bring the one Haleigh wanted that day and then after the pink shirt was found,why couldn’t gs look theu the clothes to see which clothes were missing,afterall she said she always washed the childrens clothes??? so she would surely know what was missing …imo
belly laughs,thats what i say too,love a good belly laff!lol
That little red truck is the one Ron Fan wanted me to locate, do research on the other day- he won’t like that Ifound out it’s Teresa Neves truck.
ruuuuuuuuro!
scaredmonkeys has this???
Re: Haleigh Marie Cummings #37 5/24/10 –
« Reply #55 on: Today at 03:24:42 PM
Today at 03:19:34 PM
This guy just put Lindsy’s whole life out there for everyone to see lol ….gee I wonder what Tommy will say when he finds out!
Tommy already knows. Aunt Vicki told him in one of the phone recordings.
Somebody else….Justin or Jason….is keeping him informed about Lindsy too.
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Hey now…Lindsy is the families ‘in’ for getting near the meds in the hospital. They will be nice to her no matter what. She’s got the ‘in’.
stormgardner said,
in May 25th, 2010 at 9:12 pm
You guys are killing me. My side actually hurts. A good ole belly laugh is good for you sometimes.
OMG, what’s wrong with some of these women who actually seek out these criminals. Are they that desperate? I hope they don’t have kids. How scary is that?
A picture of Ron’s kids? No way would I send a picture of my kids to a stranger. That would have to be TN that sent it I guess. Ron can’t send his only pictures. Wait til Misty hears about that.
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She’s got an interesting background actually. She might have been doing research for one of her books, or assisting in an investigation w/ someone else. wouldn’t just assume she’s a girlfriend. She’s tried to contact Furman the police officer when she thought someone had been found guilty of a crime that might be innocent.inverstigator/policeman.
stupid to go into nursing in a family full of drugges!
Hi Everyone!-
grrrrrrrrrr my internet keeps shuting down, this happens every Tues, night , crazy,
anyway Great article find CathyJo, very good info, personally I have never trusted TN
Just getting caught up. Was this visit before
or after the river search. I don’t think she has been to Mass. when this was made. I thought I heard her say of course she is still going. This tape seems out of sequence or something. It may just be me
Cathy Jo I too learn to cooked on a coal stove and my family loved cathead biscuits with bacon, eggs.grits and gravy.Leftovers if any was eaten later in the day. I cannot cook for a small amount of people so when I cook now the leftovers go in the freezer. Beans, fried potatoes and cornbread my favorite.
CathyJo63 said,
in May 25th, 2010 at 9:12 pm
i do wonder why gs washed laundry and brought it but managed not to bring the one Haleigh wanted that day and then after the pink shirt was found,why couldn’t gs look theu the clothes to see which clothes were missing,afterall she said she always washed the childrens clothes??? so she would surely know what was missing …imo
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because they went to get her outfit the morning of the 9th and Mrs. Sykes brought the clothes over the night of the 9th
Oh, I knew word would get around fast. (still amazes me how fast with the internet)
Shoot, I want more tapes!
judithan said,in May 25th, 2010 at 9:28 pm Cathy Jo I too learn to cooked on a coal stove and my family loved cathead biscuits with bacon, eggs.grits and gravy.Leftovers if any was eaten later in the day. I cannot cook for a small amount of people so when I cook now the leftovers go in the freezer. Beans, fried potatoes and cornbread my favorite.
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Ahhhhhhh,lol well i see i am not the only one,just thought i was crazy??? lol
OK Check this out
Kelly Posted at 7:45 PM Apr 16
Thank you, guys. This is really hard but I keep trying to remember that at least she isn’t suffering. I thought I was prepared for this but I realized real quick on Tuesday that I wasn’t. I want to thank everyone for their prayers and support, it really means a lot. I also want to let Crystal’s family know that I am thinking of and praying for them, as is the rest of my family.
this was after everyone had that meeting- its from Kellys myspace/ friends of Lindsay and naynays sister
http://activities.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=stream&friendId=499554363&f=7
oh,ty vaq for that blonde moment answer to my ? lol
i couldn’t think,
Chakra,from day one i thought so!
i want more tapes too!
her comment everyday was Prayin for Haleigh until then she was mad at God
she never had a tear either,well not everytime,
it seemed she brought it on tho………..
CathyJo, interesting info on TN and the red truck! I posted a “theory of events” on the last thread, but I think everyone skipped on over to this one by the time I posted. It’s lengthy, but check it out when you get a chance and let me know what you think. (It was my first post at BNN, but I came in late on that thread).
Anyway, keeping the red truck facts in mind, and the way she sticks up for Misty (oddly), TN really may know what happened that night. She may have known it on THAT night/morning and was ready to be there ASAP when the police got there. Not sure she had a part in it, but she really may have known what happened. That actually ties in to my theory well. Hmm… Food for thought.
That proves to me they know she is dead
it was like her and ron had no hope,went straight to grieving??? we all hold out hope!!!
even when the dr.’s told me my husband wouldn’t make it and to call the family in,I stil couldn’t cry,i just wanted hope!
i will do littlebear!!!!!!!!!!
and if what i heard today too is true,well theres no way she didn’t know…it makes me wonder b/c what i saw today theres a mistake on the time of the 911 call,says it happened at 2:13 a:m ,if thats true then it makes me suspect her more!
even if its not true tho i still suspect her knowing or something!
right Kristie,exactly!
Hey CathyJo- this theory (TN and Ron) goes along with our Misty dosen’t know theory Hmmmmmmmm
brb gonna see bears post!
Gm Sikes only came forward with that information of delivering laundry later in the investigation. Maybe she did and maybe she didn’t. Nothing any of these people say can believed unless proved beyond reasonal doubt.
cathy who is kelly?
right Chakra,and misty in the tapes said she called and called and got no answer and when she opened the door ron was there,
and that she gave rons keys back and that she loved ron and did and said what his family wanted,
and how do we know teresa didn’t sit outside rons work with his phone not answering it whilst he made a trip?
Little Bear said,in May 25th, 2010 at 4:13 pm First-time poster here!
After listening to the (mind-numbing-if-I-hear-the-f-bomb-one-more-time-I’ll-scream) jail tapes/ videos, including ones available on YouTube (Ron’s), and wading through other newscasts, etc…, here is my THEORY:
People involved:
Ron: While he is at work, Misty called and said Haleigh wouldn’t go to sleep or was throwing a tantrum (as children sometimes do, even the sweetest ones). Ron said “whoop her”, but that didn’t work. Ron could have then said “give her something of mine to help her sleep.” DRUGS seem to be involved in this tragedy. Why? If Misty caused Haleigh’s death by hitting or other physical violence, Ron would not act so suspiciously (headless rat, marrying child bride, etc…). Does he miss Haleigh? Yes. Was he in mourning when the first 911 call was made? Yes. Absolutely. Is he guilty? Probably. Did he personally intentionally kill her or have her killed/kidnapped? Probably not. He probably told Misty to give the drugs. Probably told Misty where the drugs were in the house. Misty could implicate him. He could implicate Misty.
Misty: gave Haleigh drugs just to get her to go to sleep for the night. Misty either fell asleep and woke to find her dead, or it happened right away. Either way, she freaked. Called Ron. Ron knew that if he left work it would look suspicious. They need to get rid of drugs, evidence, etc… Ron then maybe came up with plan that involved Tommy disposing of the body. RON called Tommy, not to see if Misty was there, but to go help with disposing of Haleigh’s body. Misty was still feeling effects of drug-induced weekend, so things are/were not clear in her mind and she really is confused about the timing of events, but knows the truth about what SHE did, and feels remorse, but not enough to tell the truth. Maybe soon, though?
Tommy: Likely takes Joe or Timmy with him (or both). Disposes of the body. Ronald KNOWS this. Keep the beheaded rat in mind-a threat so Tommy won’t confess anything. However, the place at the river that has been investigated may not the right place. Who knows? Tommy’s dismissal of the mention of that place in one of the jail recordings (with Hank Sr.?) seems to indicate that.
Timmy: at the very least, he seems to know what happened, from Misty and Tommy. Tommy’s consistent need to talk to Timmy any time he is feeling “heat” seems to indicate this. Timmy may have been the 2nd person that helped “dispose” of Haleigh’s little body, but that could have been Joe. It is doubtful that Tommy did it alone. Possible though.
Joe: MAYBE went with Tommy to dispose of the (sweet Haleigh’s innocent, tiny) body. Joe’s involvement is in question (though still possible) because it is most likely he would have cracked by now, since he could have made a deal and ratted out these people who have implicated him. He, most likely, would NOT protect any of them. It is obvious that the other people involved have no respect, or even have contempt for Joe, so he is an easy target. Then again, he could be a central figure. Doubtful.
Theresa Neves: at the very least probably knows what MAY have happened to Haliegh (or suspects it). She may not know the dynamics of the disposal of the body, but she at least suspects her son’s involvement. That is (possibly) why she is protective of Misty, so Misty won’t implicate Ron. TN probably knows the truth, at least about the drugs involved.
So, why won’t anyone confess?
Ron and Misty: (if this theory is true) would be charged with murder (second degree, possibly. Intent was not kill, but still endangered a child to the point of death), child endangerment (keep in mind Jr. still in house where these drugs were), illegal narcotics, and more. They would be locked up for the rest of their lives.
Tommy: (If this theory is true) would be charged with disposing a body and obstruction of justice. Added to drug charges, he’d be an old man with wrinkly tattoos when he gets out. If ever.
Joe: (if theory is true) would be charged with disposing a body (IF he went with Tommy). Proof of Joe’s involvement is suspect, but entirely possible.
Timmy: (if theory is true) would be charged with at the very least obstruction of justice, if not unlawfully disposing a body. He could possibly get a better “deal” if he confesses what he knows, though.
T N: (if theory is true) Possibly charged with obstruction of justice, if charged at all (may not be enough evidence, but enough to make her SCARED that there is.)
Truth seems to come in itty-bitty nuggets surrounded by dark-hearted lies, but if you look hard enough, it is probably in there somewhere. Sadly, evidence so far is circumstantial, but this theory makes the most sense (out of a senseless case).
I know everyone has their “favorites” (for good reasons. I like to see the best in people, too), but there are really so many lies here, and good acting, that we could easily be distracted from truth.
I hope some of these people ARE innocent!!! What a tragedy if this many people are actually involved. My prayer is for justice, though, but I would love to be wrong about this! I hope Justice is coming soon for whomever is responsible!
Judithan,i think she lied,she waited 9 day,almost as long as casey,lol
chakra, that is someone’s post from the monkey cage, it’s just someone’s opinion not fact.
For one on the police report TN did put her address down as the local one and not 60 miles away,she was 13 miles away. Haleigh wasn’t on her neubulizer anymore. I don’t believe the person that went with AS was a nurse but I will recheck that. How did Haleigh get one of her pills,if she had any, when she wasn’t over there that day. Also the red truck that was seen by the railroad tracks had a man that was driving it. The rest of the stuff is just opinion and not fact either.
Apr 26, 2010 10:11 PM
OMG! I seen Dolly’s link.I have her on my friends list too…and I seen what that b**** said…that was this morning tho.I didn’t see all that shit being said between you and her. What f**** nerve! It DOES sound like she was referring to RON as “the truth”….ah f**** her girl. I wouldn’t even waist my time on her if I were you. You have too much shit going on right now.
http://comment.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewComments&friendID=499554363
(im tryin to figure out who all these people are)
Did ya’ll forget Tommy had a red truck too and he sold not long after Haleigh went missing?
very possible,I agree Bear!!!!!!!!!
too confusing not to hold some truth?
CathyJo63 said,
in May 25th, 2010 at 9:34 pm
she never had a tear either,well not everytime,
it seemed she brought it on tho………..
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are you serious, cathyjo? She cried more than Crystal and Marie put together.
i don’t think misty knows what happened,period!!!!!
even misty said they used her.
To my understanding the fight that night was over misty babysitting Haleigh,was to much for her and ron promised her,he’s make it better!
homespain: so is she an author or an investigator or something?
If so, then thats what I get for assuming. I was just going by what I read.
Not saying it couldn’t happen, but I can’t imagine Ron wanting to talk with any investigator he didn’t have to, or an author for that matter. We haven’t even heard if he’s had a visit from his Mother. How did we end up with this information. Today is the first I’ve heard of it, right here.
Did it start on SM?
so how far would he go????
far enough to marry misty??
Good point, vaquera. It may have been Tommy’s truck that was spotted. TN did get to the “scene” much too quickly, though. So she had to have been nearby, too.
no vaq,i didn’t forget?? theres lots of red trucks but pertainning to suspectiing teresa,she has one!
no,not kidding,at first yes she did but it was a grieving cry??? then
and other times it was like ronalds,no tears just sound!imo
bear,also she didn’t wanna babysit that night either?
maybe her and ron had plans.jmo
Jan 31 2010 11:12 AM
Theyve f***** her life up so bad she probably couldnt get a job if she tried. she is nothing like ppl think. she is a lost little girl and i wish she never met ronald. i love misty and will always have her back no matter what. yea, tommy is the one that is shady. i could go on and on about him and why i think he did this. ppl dont know the half of it. they only know what they hear on tv and they believe it. its totally different from the truth. idk what makes ppl think they know so much about ppl and things they know NOTHING about. ppl really need to mind their own business because we dont need their 2 cents, thats for SURE. im waitin on a letter from misty, it should be here tomo. i know she is hatin this, but maybe she will learn from it. ppl that think she is suddenly gonna talk about where haleigh is are sadly mistaken. thats not gonna happen because she doesnt know! i wish ppl would just leave her alone.
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who is Kelly?
bear,also she didn’t wanna babysit that night either?
maybe her and ron had plans.jmo
not to mention Haleigh was his heart but he had teresa tattooed on his heart,not mom but teresa!
and Haleigh on his bottom leg?
CathyJo63 said,
in May 25th, 2010 at 9:34 pm
she never had a tear either,well not everytime,
it seemed she brought it on tho…
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Teresa Neves Cathy?
do you know her jan? well or something?
Im posting stuff off kelly and her friend myspace- thats not me above talkin- haha
who is Kelly?
yes tn homespain!
vaquera said,
in May 25th, 2010 at 9:47 pm
Did ya’ll forget Tommy had a red truck too and he sold not long after Haleigh went missing?
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that’s right tx
I don’t think TN was involved until afterward. I think maybe Ron called her from work in a panic (hopefully they checked his phone records). He probably needed her near when it all went down (meaning, when the police got there, he needed her to be there for him).
Thank you Vaquera- I like to keep it factual , and know when I’m reading oppinion or fact , thanks again
I’m all confused. So this is from Kelly’s my space, but we don’t know who she is? What made you look at it? You guys are good. Lol
what about the visit from tn when she asked ron.think she’ll talk?
the tone and way she said it was obvious,if she meant nothing by it why not say,you think she knows anything??
that tatoo video disgusted me and that was early into the case,
he was irate wiith that reported!
while he was 2 and half hrs away sneaking off to get a tattoo,tn was giving an interview while saying,ron couldn’t be there for it,he was broke?
he was so drugged in that video!!!!!
stormgardner said,in May 25th, 2010 at 10:06 pm I’m all confused. So this is from Kelly’s my space, but we don’t know who she is? What made you look at it? You guys are good. Lol
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Im trying to find out- she said tommy is the drug dealer not misty
About TN, I keep thinking about the Greta van Susteren interview where Greta points out TN getting there so soon.
http://www.myspace.com/momraz
heres the post- i had to copy them to word doc cuz the writing was algerian -so I could read em.
i dunno,i can’t see tommy as the main guy!
yes Bear,and the way she acted was way out there!
and after ron and misty looked under the bed,she still thought she was there,lol
I think if Misty had plans that night, it wasn’t with Ron. If something went down and Misty was freaked out about something, ten to one, she would call Timmy. She has said herself how f’d up Tommy was. How could he have pulled anything off? Or did him & Joe get all f’d up after Haleigh went mising?
CathyJoe–Very interesting about TN, even though I never considered TN other than a grieving grandmother. But put all together is very perplexing. The other day I was reading articles about the case and read some interesting posters from another website (though for the life of me I can’t remember the name. One poster mentioned the Sheffields when all were living in the tents. The poster remembered something that stuck in my mind (though I can not find any confirmation elsewhere that it was nothing but rumor). She said LE went to the tents to collect keys that were used for Ron’s MH. Evidently the cops thought they were in the Cummings tent and asked for the keys. Marie pulled out a key to the MH and handed it to the cops. This poster knew GGMA Sykes and went to church with her. This has never been confirmed but she was adamant it happened. She said she is not defending the Cummings at all. She said the focus should be fair and focused on all the families. After reading all the posts and remembered the interview Crystal did and she had an uncanny knowledge of the lock on that door. If indeed this information is true and Marie actually had a key I would think we would definately hear about it but I am beginning to wonder. I think the Sheffields have dodged a bullet with the media saturation of the Croslins. I think just to be fair that its time to investigate the Sheffields. Some of their behavior has been suspicious as well, not just the Croslins and Cummings. JMO
besides even a man in her truck could have been ron?
I think I have posted this on here before and someone told me you should never ever break a oxy but I had like 5 one time for a severe back injury and I think I took 2 of them. I broke them in fourths to take them they were so strong and yes they were very bitter. I broke them because they were so strong. A fourth took care of my pain. So I knew they were BITTER. I don’t know how TN knows they are bitter but I have no doubt she would have had a number of pain killer prescriptions between the car accident, neck surgeries and Lupus I would guess she legally has pain medications.
I just don’t trust her,if my daughter n law had my grandchild last,and it disappeared i sure wouldn’t be singing her praises!!!!!!!
enM said,
in May 25th, 2010 at 9:20 pm
Hey now…Lindsy is the families ‘in’ for getting near the meds in the hospital. They will be nice to her no matter what. She’s got the ‘in’.
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If she is working for the Public health department not likely she’ll have access to allot of stuff.
But if she does you can try to do anything out of the ordinary,and it will get noticed quickly.IE A patient w/ poor pain control on your shift going into next every time you are there. Meds missing, dosages off, etc. Drugs are supposed to be counted every shift. So if somebody was using or they thought there was something wrong it is pretty routine to ask a worker to do a drug test too. If she ever comes positive, she has a problem.
And I promise you everyone there because of her family background and name will be watching her like a hawk. They follow what is going on as well.
Given her facebook behavior, my guess if she starts trying to make friends there, women will be worried for their husbands, and for their reputation. Also, she is manipulative and a turn off as you get to know her better.
right robin,and mg said once,she knew Haleigh was ok and that she was crying for her mommy and daddy,and she felt they were in al or ga and according to cobra i believe it was,said cs’s dad knew misty and Haleigh were in the bed together!
supplied chad with an alibi too!
stormgardner
the wierdest thing- that girl frutti tutti-
Alecia duncan the girl talkin to ron- she commented on kellys pic- But I dont see shes her friend.
i want to know who kelly is. guess no one here knows?
I think Sillygirl said we haven’t seen the best tapes yet. I think there will be some after Lindsy gets back from Mass. Have yall heard anything about them??
CathyJo63 said,
in May 25th, 2010 at 10:03 pm
yes tn homespain!
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Wow. We have really different views on that one.
Maybe cause you didn’t see her on tv, cause you said you didn’t have access, maybe you might have missed it.
I think she is a grieving grandmother.
Kristie as you know there has been so much speculation on Haleigh’s disappearance that everyone only wants the truth about Haleigh. This child has become close to many hearts. Who ever has the burden of this child’s life needs to finally come forward. I’m not placing blame on anyone but I don’t think any of these people have been honest to LE. It’s not about anyone but Haleigh. Thank God for the forums that keep her name out in the public.
i see alot more online Homespain! it don’t sit right!
no treece,waiting tho……no begging tho,lol
right,a grieving grandmother,thats what i said homespain,she knows??????????
Regarding TN: Found this:
http://www.examiner.com/x-33505-Nashville-Crime-Examiner~y2010m3d30-Haleigh-Cummings-grandmother-involved-in-disappearance
imo…i am betting before its all over tn will be implicated!
judithan said,in May 25th, 2010 at 10:22 pm Kristie as you know there has been so much speculation on Haleigh’s disappearance that everyone only wants the truth about Haleigh. This child has become close to many hearts. Who ever has the burden of this child’s life needs to finally come forward. I’m not placing blame on anyone but I don’t think any of these people have been honest to LE. It’s not about anyone but Haleigh. Thank God for the forums that keep her name out in the public.
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i think it was interesting to see what her close friends had to say= im sure cops know
homespain,you can see more on here than tv about it,lol
good post robin
You guys all have a good night, time for me to get to bed. My butts done gone to sleep sittin here……..
Better go before it starts snoring zzzzzzzzz 🙂
or blasting wind Storm,lmbo
brb gotta eat sommin
Good point treece, your example could very well be why Theresa knew that they were bitter
y 25th, 2010 at 9:35 pm
it was like her and ron had no hope,went straight to grieving??? we all hold out hope!!!
even when the dr.’s told me my husband wouldn’t make it and to call the family in,I stil couldn’t cry,i just wanted hope!
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Sure that’s true Cathy, but everyone is different, and there are different circumstances.
I thought my little boy ran off and drowned in the lake. One minute i was talking to a friend next when I looked, he was gone.
He didn’t answer, no one could find him. I ran to the lake trying to see if he was in the water so I could get him, but it was hopeless, i thought he was dead, drowned. I was despondent, and grieved immediately.
Later we were leaving the park w/, police etc and out from inside a log he came out. He’d fallen asleep in there after having a big day.
Point is i can see that happening to someone else too. I could see him believe she is dead, then alive. The mind and emotions don’t always make sense.
I saw Ron also, at a later date talk
as if his daughter might have been kidnapped. then later again decided she was dead. Then later again hoped she was taken. Remember this is a guy who is on lotsa drugs too.
He could be involved after the fact, maybe TN or Misty did something , who knows. It is one big mess.
I know we all react strongly to stuff we see. i know that for me, his Lake Placid dialog with Cobra REALLY struck me the wrong way too. That and, not looking for Haleigh.
tormgardner said,
in May 25th, 2010 at 9:49 pm
homespain: so is she an author or an investigator or something?
If so, then thats what I get for assuming. I was just going by what I read.
Not saying it couldn’t happen, but I can’t imagine Ron wanting to talk with any investigator he didn’t have to, or an author for that matter. We haven’t even heard if he’s had a visit from his Mother. How did we end up with this information. Today is the first I’ve heard of it, right here.
Did it start on SM?
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Hi storm g. Her name is Alecia Kay Dunbar. Found her facebook and read all her interests, stuff she’s done etc., saw her email and communications on various website where she was attempting to help a prisoner who she though was innocent. She has an interest in a variety of children s issues, and crime related topics, not unlike people here.
More than that I’m guessing too. I believe the other information relates to scared monkeys where they are discussing her. You can plug in her name and you’ll see where her name pops up related to the scared monkeys commentary.Read and decide for yourself. It’s allot of conjecture, and some facts, just like here.
On day when my oldest son was 2 his dad and I came in from buying a bunch of groceries and were parked out from of our apartment and we had carried him in the house but were both carrying groceries in and all the sudden he was gone. We called and looked and ran to the pool and called and looked some more. When I finally gave up and picked up the phone to call 911 he came out from under the stairs and said peek a boo. When we played with him we would always yell for him and act like we couldn’t find him so this time when we were running and yelling he just thought we were all having a good time. I literally laughed and cried at the same time.
CathyJo63 said,
in May 25th, 2010 at 9:38 pm
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Wow, that really good. Well written, and plausible.
That’s funny Treese. My daughter disappeared out of my backyard at 2. My neighbors and I were in a panic looking for her. She loved a neighbors Chow dog and he loved her, he was so old the dog wore tennis shoes because his paws were weak. I found the both of them sound asleep with her head on his body close to a home. He was not happy I took her home.
judithan said,
in May 25th, 2010 at 9:42 pm
Gm Sikes only came forward with that information of delivering laundry later in the investigation. Maybe she did and maybe she didn’t. Nothing any of these people say can believed unless proved beyond reasonal doubt.
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Good observation Juithan!
It would be interesting if JR remembers that. Time line wise, it would show Haleigh is still alive. And if a lie, well, opens up allot of possibilities.
Everyone who claims she was there delivering laundry acknowledge as well that someone, a nurse?, was with her. That should be easy for the police to verify. Would be interesting to know for sure.
homespain said,in May 25th, 2010 at 10:48 pm tormgardner said,
in May 25th, 2010 at 9:49 pm
homespain: so is she an author or an investigator or something?
If so, then thats what I get for assuming. I was just going by what I read.
Not saying it couldn’t happen, but I can’t imagine Ron wanting to talk with any investigator he didn’t have to, or an author for that matter. We haven’t even heard if he’s had a visit from his Mother. How did we end up with this information. Today is the first I’ve heard of it, right here.
Did it start on SM?
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No but afterall he wanted help by media to find her and this day he didn’t and it was obvious why after the tattoo.he was drugged as drugged can be..imo
vaquera said,
in May 25th, 2010 at 9:45 pm
chakra, that is someone’s post from the monkey cage, it’s just someone’s opinion not fact.
For one on the police report TN did put her address down as the local one and not 60 miles away,she was 13 miles away. Haleigh wasn’t on her neubulizer anymore. I don’t believe the person that went with AS was a nurse but I will recheck that. How did Haleigh get one of her pills,if she had any, when she wasn’t over there that day. Also the red truck that was seen by the railroad tracks had a man that was driving it. The rest of the stuff is just opinion and not fact either.
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Thanks Vacera for clarifying this. How did you find the facts in first place? Just wondering so I get better at finding the correct info. tx
yea i do agree everybody takes things different,true enough but from day one theres something way to wrong here!
and it started from the night the suspected faked 911 call came in and 3 ppl were there?
allzzz i’m saying,lol imo
imvho it doesn’t fit what a father would do??
and it sure makes me wonder why misty callled,his 4 month gf?
homespain
LOL,that’s funny,she put a bunch of that stuff on her myspace,but many of us read around on her comments on myspace and other places when she had contacted Kelly to get ahold of the family.She’s not an author,college grad in criminal anything.LOL Was involved in some internet radio.She posts on different forums in cases and was contacting Joran,then Kelly to talk to RC.Her ex was in jail and we saw her comments on his site,also.She’s just a blogger and posts on twitter.I’m cracking up laughing.LOL
Who is this so called nurse with GMSykes?Has she or he ever been identified? Not that I’ve heard or read.
Misty: (tearfully) And I’m tired of ?? putting things on me. I didn’t do anything wrong. And they wanna keep putting me like I’m this fu_king horrible person and I’m not. I didn’t do nothing to deserve none of this man. I always had a heart. I always tried to help people and everything. Always get screwed over all the time. And Ronald just used me.
Hank: I tried to tell you that.
Misty: He did. He did use me. He used me for a babysitter. He used me for everything that he wanted me, and his family too. That’s the only reason he wanted me around is to be their babysitter because they were tired of babysitting the kids. That’s exactly why. And then when they didn’t need me no more, when HaLeigh come up missing and they didn’t need me no more thats when they wanted me to leave. Because they had everybody helping them hand and foot. That’s exactly why. And they wanna say since I come into their family its been drama. No! Since Ronald come into my life its been drama.
Hank: Serious drama!
Misty: They all got mad at me and Ronald. Always fu_king, he was rude all the time cause he was shot up in his arm and they didn’t want him to shot up. And he tried to kill hisself. Well they need to look at him a little hard too. Why was he trying to kill hisself? Why would, you know. He did nothing but use me. But nobody looks, hes sweet and innocent. He don’t do nothing wrong. Why would’nt he answer the phone?
Hank: Serious drama!
Misty: They all got mad at me and Ronald. Always fu_king, he was rude all the time cause he was shot up in his arm and they didn’t want him to shot up. And he tried to kill hisself. Well they need to look at him a little hard too. Why was he trying to kill hisself? Why would, you know. He did nothing but use me. But nobody looks, hes sweet and innocent. He don’t do nothing wrong. Why would’nt he answer the phone?
Hank: Yeah, and theres tales that said people knows. theres tales that they said that Ronald snuck out of there, out of the werk that night.
robin said,
in May 25th, 2010 at 10:13 pm
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Great points Robin, very interesting.
I have always wondered how many keys were out there as i think it is important. After all there is no signs of forced entry.
Misty: Alright when I called him that night, how come he didn’t answer the phone? I called and called and he didn’t answer the phone and as soon as I opened the door hes there. And he talks like, he said that he was a drug dealer and all this stuff back in the day. He talks about all this chit Why did that black guy tell, say that uh, them people had her and he was gonna go back and get her. But if he told, if Ronald told then he was coming to kill him. Theres all this chit that they don’t even look at, they just want to look at me. And I’m tired of it. I’m gonna start sticking up for myself. I’m not letting people run me down no more, I’m not. I know I didn’t have nothing to do with anything and God knows. So they all can kiss my butt.
Hank: I know that you didn’t do nothing. I just dont know if you know something.
Misty: I don’t know, I’m telling yah, if I knew I would…
Hank: I believ…
Is there anyone Misty hasn’t thrown this off on?Pffttt!!!
CathyJo63 said,
in May 25th, 2010 at 10:13 pm
besides even a man in her truck could have been ron?
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interesting cathy
Misty: Its just, I don’t know. You wanna, like in my mind its just like you know, people keep saying this person, this person, so in your mind you like hey its that person. So you actually start to believe it. Like the Joe thing, I wanna believe that because that is what I keep hearing and just makes like sense. Like that’s what happened, you know. I don’t know for a hundred percent that that was him, I don’t know.
Hank: That’s why you don’t talk to them cops unless your lawyers there Misty. Never should have. Well you knew better than that.
Misty: I know people, there is some girls back in the cells and they were just talking about it, and they tell me, That’s it, that’s it, so that just got my head, that’s what it was. I don’t know anything. People put stuff in my head and I don’t know what to believe. That’s all.
Hank: I know baby. Its gonna come out. They’re gonna find out. They can’t, whoever gots the secret man, they ain’t gone be able to hold us back forever. Cops aren’t stupid they’ll figure it out.
That comment made me thing, red truck by rail tracks, a man in vehicle, remember way back they talked about Haleigh’s scent stopping at the tracks?
treece said,
in May 25th, 2010 at 10:14 pm
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Makes sense Treece!
Misty: Oh I’m not doing nothing, I’m saying before this, when I was home and stuff , you know. All them tests and stuff. Well the reason I did them test is because what Tim Miller said that he was going to stop looking for her if I didn’t. And then Ronald’s family put a lot of pressure on me. Ronald put a lot of pressure on me. Everybody just pressure, pressure, pressure, pressure. Poor me, I didn’t know what to do. I loved um, but he used me now I see. Everything that people say he was, if he was like everything that Crystal says I do believe Crystal everything she said about Ronald and Amber. I believe everything both of them said.
Hank: I guess they got Crystal in rehab or something now. That’s what I heard through the grapevine.
Misty: That’s good. Maybe she will go to rehab and get out and do the right thing with her son. I feel bad for her too, you know
Hank: That’s what I heard.
Misty: Ronald is, I don’t know.
Hank: Ronald is in love with his drugs and himself.
Misty: Yep! That’s exactly what he is. You see Lindsy Daddy?
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she even agrees with cs and amber!
Yes, Robin, the Sheffields, too quiet. If my child disappeared from my Ex husbands house, I wouldn’t take 8 hours to make an hour trip to get there, I wouldn’t tell TV land that I was more worried about my hair appt and people talking about me right at the exact moment they thought they found my daughter in a dumpster, and I would not of been using some dingy lawyer like Picazzio to tell everyone how bad Ron treated her and how she was done wrong in court. No. I would of been there asap and would still be on TV asking if anyone had seen my baby and to please bring her home.
But you know why she doesn’t? You know why she could care less about a hit on the dumpster? You know why you’ve never seen a real tear? Hmmm, I think its because she knows exactly where Haleigh is!
I think who ever took her out of that trailer, when the 3 stooges were partying and acting crazy and passing out, got Haleigh out and then when they went back for JR, Misty woke up and foiled the plan.
I think they snuck her out the back, letting one of her feet slip out of the blanket (thus the one footprint that is evidence right outside the back ramp) and handed her to someone, who took her through those woods (where the dogs followed her scent) and put her in a boat (which the MH isn’t far from the water).
Misty remains dazzled, remembers seeing someone take Haleigh, but not sure who. Knows Ron blamed her. So, what is she going to say? Uh, dunno!? No, she will figure it had to be a stranger, but then could of been Tommy or Joe because they were there. Tommy doesn’t want to get blamed, so he blames Joe. The cops clear Joe, so he blames Ron.
The public gets ahold of it, along with the irresponsible media, and spins the heck out of it and drags in everyones personal life history and suddenly we have overdoses, child rape, hits in the head, and alligator feeding stories!
There is no proof of any of those things!
The only evidence we have is that Haleigh is “missing”.
Robin, I agree, time to start looking elsewhere, as where they been looking for the last year and a half is still showing the same results!! No Haleigh.
right Homespain!
CathyJo63 said,
in May 25th, 2010 at 10:22 pm
i see alot more online Homespain! it don’t sit right!
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Ok Cathyjo. So what you are saying is that overall, over time, that is your conclusion. Maybe what i saw was the same thing over and over, you could be right .
Hank: No, I got here at 2, and they told me I had to wait til 2:45, come back. What time you go to court.
Misty: Ah, it was like 1:30. Yeah it was like 1:30. I didn’t know I had court. I was out for lunch and after lunch they said Misty are you ready and I said ready for what? She said for court and I said for real. She said yeah, and I was like yeah, hold on. And I was riding in the van, they had me in the van. The boys were in the back and I was in the front and theres that one boy in there talking. He was like yeah, Misty you’re doing good, don’t let them bring you down. You’re doing real good, just hang on. Hes from Putnam County, so he knows John Baaar-en
Hank: Whose that?
Misty: Who you think John Barten is?
Hank: I don’t know.
Misty: Ah, John Barten is the boy in that trailer with the, that has Timmy’s dog.
Hank: Oh yeah, snitch!
Misty: Yeah!
Hank: You can’t, I’m not going over Tony’s house for nothing. I don’t like them people. I don’t want to nothing to do with them kind of people.
Misty: Well dad, sometimes you know if it gets, I knew that he would do it for me though..
Hank: Hes full of chit. He wasn’t gonna do nothing for yah.
CathyJo63 said,
in May 25th, 2010 at 11:16 pm
Sure
right Homespain,i think,lol
CathyJo63 said,
in May 25th, 2010 at 10:25 pm
imo…i am betting before its all over tn will be implicated!
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Wow!That would sure be something CJ!
chakra7 said,
in May 25th, 2010 at 10:36 pm
Good point treece, your example could very well be why Theresa knew that they were bitter
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true!
something just don’t seem right beginning from point 1!
everybodys focusing on the wrong ppl??
its a mess now!
brb need coffee,lol
Good observation CJ, hadn’t thought of it that way.
cathy..be aware of arse kissers..
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treece said,in May 25th, 2010 at 10:49 pm On day when my oldest son was 2 his dad and I came in from buying a bunch of groceries and were parked out from of our apartment and we had carried him in the house but were both carrying groceries in and all the sudden he was gone. We called and looked and ran to the pool and called and looked some more. When I finally gave up and picked up the phone to call 911 he came out from under the stairs and said peek a boo. When we played with him we would always yell for him and act like we couldn’t find him so this time when we were running and yelling he just thought we were all having a good time. I literally laughed and cried at the same time.
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I feel ya treece
Too bad CS couldn’t get there as fast as TN, eh? Is it possible that Misty phoned TN that night and told her since she couldn’t reach Ron?
CathyJo63 said,
in May 25th, 2010 at 11:30 pm
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If the police can collaborate that w/ Ron and locate the black man that will help her gain credibility, especially for her defense team should she need one later.
reece said,
in May 25th, 2010 at 10:49 pm
Treece- It stops the heart if they do it for a little too long doesn’t it?
I don’t know if anyone knows how soon after HaLeigh went missing Tommy sold that red truck.Hank was ticked off about it.Since the van was taken in and checked,I don’t guess the red truck was.Just another thing like the blanket on the ramp.
WinterRose said,
in May 25th, 2010 at 11:21 pm
homespain
LOL,that’s funny,she put a bunch of that stuff on her myspace,but many of us read around on her comments on myspace and other places when she had contacted Kelly to get ahold of the family.She’s not an author,college grad in criminal anything.LOL Was involved in some internet radio.She posts on different forums in cases and was contacting Joran,then Kelly to talk to RC.Her ex was in jail and we saw her comments on his site,also.She’s just a blogger and posts on twitter.I’m cracking up laughing.LOL
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Winter rose- We talking about Alecia?
Didn’t say anything about a graduate of criminal anything I don’t think. She is a grad
from Kaplan University. I was looking at her Facebook page. Does she have a myspace page too?
Do you have a link to that?
So when she contacted Joran, is it just morbid curiosity or criminal groupie? Is there any legitimate end to her contacting people? You said you are familiar with her on blogs etc. What’s your take on her beyond what you said.
WinterRose said,
in May 25th, 2010 at 11:21 pm
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.I’m cracking up laughing.LOL——
Oh forgot to ask you, you laughing cause of all the misinformation?–sorry not getting it.
judithan said,
in May 25th, 2010 at 11:26 pm
Who is this so called nurse with GMSykes?Has she or he ever been identified? Not that I’ve heard or read.
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Judithan- I think Vacuera cleared up that story, and that evidently it was not a nurse, I was not correct in that assertion.
Yep homespain,it’s all crazy,so many rumors going around and misinformation on everything.
CathyJo63 said,
in May 25th, 2010 at 11:27 pm
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So Sad… If her lawyers can get that verified, it could help her.
The old myspace before deleted,actually my take is I kind of feel sorry for some people.Not getting into alot of things,but so many people have to involve themselves online and make things up to feel better about themselves,because thier life is sad or lonely.
CathyJo63 said,
in May 25th, 2010 at 11:40 pm
right Homespain,i think,lol
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Huh? Sorry, lost track about what you r talking about here. The I think?
I meant the stuff on it was deleted and it’s changed.
WinterRose said,
in May 26th, 2010 at 12:05 am
Yep homespain,it’s all crazy,so many rumors going around and misinformation on everything.
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Tx. Got it now.
WinterRose said,
in May 26th, 2010 at 12:10 am
The old myspace before deleted,actually my take is I kind of feel sorry for some people.Not getting into alot of things,but so many people have to involve themselves online and make things up to feel better about themselves,because thier life is sad or lonely.
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tx, Is that what Alecia was doing u think?
I wonder if she ever found a senior pic of that LVP.LOL…Never mind,just something we definitely do share in common. 🙂
I don’t have any inside info or anything but my take on Alicia Dunbar was that she was a criminal groupie, thats what it sounded like on the phone call with Ronald jmo
JenM said,
in May 25th, 2010 at 11:45 pm
Too bad CS couldn’t get there as fast as TN, eh? Is it possible that Misty phoned TN that night and told her since she couldn’t reach Ron?
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HMmmmm JenM,
Sure would be interesting to find out. Allot of the comments here involve phone calls and you can see when Misty’s phone would be turned on and start pinging, and where she is, who she called, and when.
chakra7 said,
in May 26th, 2010 at 12:26 am
I don’t have any inside info or anything but my take on Alicia Dunbar was that she was a criminal groupie, thats what it sounded like on the phone call with Ronald jmo
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Thanks chakra,
Kinda strange here tonight.
this is an article from BNN by tj hart…interesting info…………
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It stems from the kimP bar complaint!
But in it marty sheffield is known to date underage girls himself,cconnie the one he has now he started dating at 17,their son Elija who turned out to be NOT martys child but accepted as his own and so in retaliation to the dr.who did father him marty got ronald to help him retaliate…..hmmmmmmmmm by destroying his car!
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why the hello would he do that?
alot of stuff i never seen before!
chakra7
Are you talking about the paper she was holding up to Joran when she was talking to him on the computer that said,I Love you Joran? I can see your point,yep.
http://imgsrv.thesky973.com/image/wsky/UserFiles/File/Object_12902BE_0.PDF
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page 14 is where i read that,its all pdf??
page 15 whewww
CathyJo63 said,
in May 26th, 2010 at 12:34 am
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Wow, that is really strange, missed that. Can you imagine what those police must think, sifting through all the possibilitys of who did this to Haleigh, the characters involved?
Exactly, Why the h?
WinterRose said,
in May 26th, 2010 at 12:37 am
wow!!!!!!
yea and it means they have crap on one another?
yea and it means they have crap on one another?
what if everybody had a scam going and mistys the scapegoat?
CathyJo63 said,
in May 26th, 2010 at 12:43 am
yea and it means they have crap on one another?
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They do.
marie worked at a bar where weed was sold by the bartender who was marie,it was one of the charges she had!
Listening to the audios and seeing the dvds are crazy,one minute you think they’re covering for each other and the next they’re throwing each other under the bus.
just gets stranger and stranger
kp also said mg frequents blogs to start rumors,hmmmmmmmmm
I didn’t listen to all the tapes,was reading some about it on twitter.But did Misty say Timmy would sneak out to go to bars when Chelsea was asleep?Or did Tommy say that?
CathyJo- which one is marty again, and marie maybe marie Griffis? Crystals mom? wow wonder if she was here ? at BNN , thats creepy , but I think OJ was warning about that one night, remember
CathyJo
I think we could listen to 50 tapes and every one would have something on it new we didn’t know about them.LOL
john merchant comes up often in it
Marty is Johnny Sheffield,Crystal’s Dad.
homespain – agree , strange tonight lol
Winter Rose- yes , that sign she held up defidently made her look groupie
marty aka johnny sheffield,crystals dad!
CathyJo
Where are you reading the bar complaint?
john M was caught with cocaine in his vehicle onece,and took a boat from a known drug dealer,also suspected of being in organized crime drug deals with ron??
a pdf file from tj har and bnn site!
didnt the link post????????
Winter Rose – thanks
Out of contest remark:
Just curious to me…watching NG and she calls a missing 16 yr old girl a “little girl”. But yet Misty who was 17 she depicts like a hard core mastermind criminal. So I wonder if she thinks Ronald was with a “little girl” a year before she turned 17?
this crap floors me!
WHERE IS HALEIGH????
omg mary,rofl i wish to God i could call n/g with that question,omg
Oops “context”
Oh,I think you can’t post links here,just seperate it and anyone can copy and paste the link.If it’s on one of thier sites,I’m sure they won’t mind.
if you think i wouldn’t you’re so wrong,perfect ?? for n/g
After all that just happened with the water search and supposedly Tommy and Misty talking,seems we’re back to square one.
http://www.thesky973.com/pages/5686083.php
Never break an oxycontin…NEVER.
I also seriously question why a Dr. would prescribe that specific med for your post op pain; There are so many others that would alleviate that pain.
Oxycontin is and should ONLY BE for pt.’s with excruciating debilitating pain; ie. chronic illnesses where pain reaches such a high peak, that eventually no other narcotics can help.
Oxycontin is a time released medication. When it’s broken, the time release effect is negated, and the body gets too much of the opiate in the system at one time. It can cause immediate resp failure, which is why so many idiots who “snort” it end up dying.
The lucky ones have seizures first, which is a warning of imminent and impending cardiac arrest, but most of the time, instead of helping the person out, everybody scrambles for the fastest exit….(they’re all afraid of getting caught with the drug) so many kids die cuz their so called “buddies” left them while they lay on the floor seizing and finally go into resp/cardiac arrest.
its on that page there,and you’ll see maybe 8 links on the page!
The only thing we do hear is thier getting more and more desperate to get out of jail.
Lol Cathy, hard to get thru to NG…you have to beat out Sheba!
brb find sommin
Lindsey’s as bad as the rest of them! No count trailer trash IMO
Maryd – great point on NG and Misty
RonFan- great info, thats so sad a kid dies not knowing the danger of that drug
WinterRose said,in May 26th, 2010 at 1:03 am After all that just happened with the water search and supposedly Tommy and Misty talking,seems we’re back to square one.
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We will keep being at square one. If you look for the truth in the same place over and over and over for more than a year and a half and you don’t find it, no matter what you do, then common sense says to look else where!
Try puttin the spotlight on the Sheffields. Lets see what they find under that rock!
Non custodial abductions are very common. And when you have a motive of owing 12,000 in back support and due in court….well, “desperate people, do desperate things”!
I don’t see where LE even investigated that possibility. Or, maybe that is what they are doing now? They went awfully silent after that river search….just sayin’.
I wonder if one of the many “non-suspects” may have broken the pill to give Haleigh just a little to put her to sleep, and it had a devastating effect?
Sure might help our theories if we did have records of all the players phone calls that night.
CathyJo: the “red truck” is probably that red suv rav 4 that Joe drove…The EXACT SAME ONE that was involved in the Haleigh sighting in the Carraba’s in TN…
LE confiscated that vehicle, and never commented on it except that they didn’t want to comment on it!!!
As usual, silence is golden in this case…
Things that make u go hmmmmmmmmmm??????
***I posted this a while back, I forgot who’s myspace it was, I think Brandon or Josh’s but they had a pic of a red rav 4 w/ a cutout of Haleigh pasted on it as a passenger.
Maryd- I was just thinking the same thing about HaLeigh and oxy
Joe didn’t have a vehicle,he came up with his friend Jennifer and she had a cadillac.That car was checked out by LE.I’ve seen Brandon O’s ms many times,never saw a red car and Josh his brother’s either,he was in jail at the time anyway.And they live in Michigan.
And that Red Truck being seen at the railroad track that night is eerie. Being that this is where Haleigh’s scent ended for the dogs. That I just don’t get.
Hi Chakra,
Well it seems at least one person we know must have broken an Oxi at one time.
maryd- yes, and i never realized how dangerous it was ,with other painkillers I think its ok, but with the oxy’s I think its the timerelease that makes it so dangerous
the scent did end at the railroad tracks didn’t it , that was questioned earlier and I couldn’t remember for sure
well I’m off to bed Goodnight All!
As far as I know it ended at the RR tracks Chakra, which is right off of Tyler. I google earthed the information from an article that gave the dogs track. Didn’t save it though cause I’m on a borrowed computer and don’t know how to work it so well.
Goodnite Chakra
CathyJo must be getting sumpin good cause she’s MIA for a while now.
If you go to CNN,they have a link to Live video of the oil spill,they’re suppose to try to plug it up today.I was just looking at it,horrible.
Anyway,I’m afraid unless something really dramatic happens,the case as it is,will not change.Unless as it’s getting closer to her trial date,she finally just tells it.I don’t know.
tommy and his wife are nasy people.
*nasty
Listening to these tapes again. There seems to be a pattern of Croslins, Cummings, and friends having health issues or having been involved in major car accidents. Almost seems like convenient excuses for indulging the pain meds. Or am I just a cynic??
Listening to these tapes again. There seems to be a pattern of Croslins, Cummings, and friends having health issues or having been involved in major car accidents. Almost seems like convenient excuses for indulging the pain meds. Or am I just a cynic??
Simon or anyone who can possibly answer this question:
Why no Ronald tapes?
Is he simply not communicating because he listens to his attorney or is he getting discretion the others don’t?
Just very curious.
they are all addicted to pain meds and will always find an excuse, they need to not drive anymore if they dont know how…lol oh yeah they wont be.
O.M.G.! I’ve had deeper conversations with a 3 year old! I can’t listen to the whole thing….”heh, hehe,heh, hehe” It hurts to listen to it. These tapes are criminal by themselves. jesh!
i dont listen to them at all, i do not want to know about thier stupid pitiful lives i just want to hear about haleigh but that is a moot point, we wont hear about her, just as an after thought with these people. disgusting.
Okay, so I’m going back to theory #1: Since this whole freaking wacked out family{{ no matter how they are all related }}in laws, exes, friends, beer drinkin porch buddies, related by ya mama’s ex, and ggmas daddy, and he had 2 kidz but she said he gave her 3 younginz’ and aint no doubt im in love for my whole life of livin, and wait aint u my daddy AND my father-in-law?????
ANYWAY, Marty, aka Johnny Sheffield(y cant he just go by one name fcol?)wants Haleigh, so he is just sittin like a snake in the grass waiting for the right time to screw Ron over…Voila!! He knows the Croslins are fiendin for drugz…finds out ’bout the fight and the weekend thing w/Misty and NayNay, and since somehow, someway, which a long time from now perhaps the great gods of wonder will explain the phenomenon, Mr. J M Sheffield realizes this is the chance of a lifetime, offers Joe some $$$, tells him to help him out, (knows Joe is psycho) Thelma and Louise are dumb and dumber, they tell Joe ’bout whats goin on, because the whole weekend thing was really a planned thing for NayNay(Lucy)and Misty(Ethel) cuz they KNEW they were going to go with WBG to score some drugs from the Mexicans.
ALERT *** Anybody who really believes that WBG and Misty accidentally met thru NayNay and they all decided to get together and party like it’s 1999-and COINCIDENTALLY throw in a bunch of people labeled as “the mexicans” so they can all get together….ahhhhhhh, like ok, NO.***
So, where was I, oh, yeah, so Thelma and Louise aka Lucy and Ethel, told Joe hey we’re gettin loaded good stuff etc…authentic, from the Mexicans, let’s make some $$$$….c’mon down.
**This is a test from the emergency broadcast system…we interrupt this long azz stupid post to inform u that there wuz NO planned VACATION TO SUNNY SATSUMA for Joe Overstreet.In case of a real emergency, u would here this alert system: Whoever believes that vacation planned visit crap is DUMB…and u must be AH cuz ur sources “told” u.**
So awesome thug Joe bOuNCez down to Satzzzumaaaa to get some uh, good times. He’s a thug, he knowz it…he is 46lbs as CathyJo has said (her sources told her!!LOL) and MAN, he is bad azzzzzzzzzz…(only when he’s high)
He is doing a double deed: a favor for Johnny Sheffield, AND a favor for himself…He’s getting paid by JS to get Haleigh and screw Ron over; JS assumes Ron will know exactly what is going on after it happens…and add to that JOE hates Ron, Ron shows off his damn Guns, BUT..Joe has already stolen, Yes, STOLEN, like an idiot, stolen drugs from the Mexicans (which one should NEVER DO…) Joe needs that Assault Rifle, Joe hates Ron, (which is exactly why Joe is JS’s scapegoat to get Haleigh for the Sheffields) lordy, looks like this is a WIN WIN situation for everyone.
So, Joe needs to get out of town NOW. He tells Tommy to help him out and get him in Ron’s home, and he’ll give him some good stuff; all he wants is to get in and steal Ron’s gun….(Tommy agrees cuz he wants the pills, drugs, AND has lots of reasons to DISLIKE Ron, cuz supposedly he hurts his little sis)now keep in mind, Tommy FULLY knows Joe is CRAZY, but, well, ya gotta do what ya gotta do…let him in, don’t say anything, he gets his fix, Joe leaves with the gun.
But what poor Tommy doesn’t know is that Joe is lying to Tommy. He is not just taking the gun, he’s taking Haleigh…
If we think about it, the reason Tommy was over by Ron’s visiting Misty (after Ron left for work) was to let Misty know:
“The Plan”: we are coming back tonight; Joe wants that assault rifle…let us in..we are all in this together, and DON’T LET RON KNOW. (WE all know addicts sadly will rationalize ANY reason to get their pills)
So, if Misty can get something out of this, why not? THOUGHT: did she know all along that the gun WAS NOT there, but just really wanted her fix? DUMB, MISTY, REALLY DUMB.
So when Joe comes back that night, she is totally screwed. He’s pissed, doped up, goes beserk…grabs Haleigh, Tommy’s freaking out, Joe is psycho, he carries guns, he is nuts; Idk how small someone is, if they are a walking ticking time bomb, I would be scared…He knows where they live; It’s ok to hang out w/Joe to score drugs; It’s not OK TO GET ON HIS BAD SIDE. But when ur an addict, it’s a risk u take.
Joe grabs Haleigh. Tells Tommy and Misty don’t move or I’ll Kill Haleigh. (He puts her in the van) Joe being the courteous guy he is, escorts Tommy out of the MH, knife to his throat, (note: this is when Tommy says he sees Haleigh in the van, but Joe doesn’t realize that cuz he’s doped up.
Joe tells Tommy if u tell, I’ll be back and kill u and ur kids, etc….
Joe KNOWS Misty is scared to death..he’s got her right where he wants her. And I believe he probably raped her that night, solely for the power and manipulation factor, to literally traumatize her and humiliate her.
Joe flees to Tennessee cuz the plan is to deliver Haleigh to her Grandfather Sheffield. But then the whole 911 stuff happens, it blows up in infinite proportions and Joe panics, or WHAT I theorize: maybe just maybe, that Haleigh Sighting was real, and also the one in Massachussetts…what if it’s like a Haleigh Underground Railroad?
I know it’s farfetched, but considering Marty Sheffield’s public corrupt past and present ties to ORGANIZED CRIME, he has a lot of help and friends, and $$$$.
1.) LE never referred back to the findings of the rav 4;
2.) 2-19-09 **Why did Hardy open his press conference concerning the initial questioning of Joe Overstreet with his foot in his mouth by saying that PCSO cannot at this time confirm whether or not Mr. Overstreet is a registered sexual “predator”?? WTH?
No one even asked, Officer Hardy..!!!!
3.) NayNays jail letter refers to Joe the psycho telling the story to LE (and signing an affidavit) of Haleigh overdosing…THAT IS THE SOURCE OF who told Granny Hollars that version.
4.) If anyone is pointing a finger, it’s Joe.
He tried to finger the OBVIOUS scapegoats of that whole weekend: WBG,NayNay,Misty. He knew they would be easy targets, since their alibis sucked. yeah, they had the alibi, but it wasn’t exactly up there on the top 10 best things to have for an alibi.(uh, yeah, we were in Crescent City with the Mexicans pimpin and snortin’)
5.) Joe avoids anything to do with talk of Haleigh. Look at how he stomped off when a reporter started talking about GH saying stuff about him…HEY, why would u do that, if u truly were innocent?
6.) PLEEEZE am I the only one who looks at the Overstreet’s and their friend’s myspace pages, and puts 2 + 2 together? The messages and comments are eerily timed, and blatantly suggestive. I see NO indication that Joe is innocent. He did something with Haleigh.
7.) I don’t think she is dead; I believe she IS in the hands of a family connected to the Sheffields.
This is just my idea of the theory w/how the Sheffields could be involved.
I think everytime PCSO is quiet with someone, THAT’S THE ONE TO WATCH.
I truly apologize for this long post; I just had to get it out, vent a bit..how could it be possible that even Joe would kill that beautiful little girl? She seems so trusting, like the type of child that a “monster” couldn’t even hurt.
Really sorry for the novel. Love to all of you.
Hey, another night with no ghosts!!! Yipee!!
Their probably pizzed that I’m not sleeping until the sun starts coming up!!!
It’s also probably why everyone’s computers are acting wild!!!
ronfan, you really made some good points. I think some people are afraid to look at the other side of the family, or for some reason it has become taboo, which doesn’t make sense since they never have ruled anyone out. Good points.
I think if we keep it simple we can find the answers.
Tommy had access to unlock the door earlier that day.
Tommy knew Misty was tired, a deep sleeper, and shared a joint with her which would make her sleep even deeper.
Tommy places himself at the home between 10 and 11.
Tommy had a red truck. Red truck was seen that night.
The K-9 tracked up Taylor st where Tommy lived.
Now the question, for me at least, is why would Tommy take Haleigh.
Was he paid to do so by a family member, perhaps Marty.
What about Nay Nay and Amber? Tommy had a long time relationship with them, before he ever met Ron. Amber’s mother took off out of state with a warrant out on her for robbery. Amber and her mother hated Ron and Misty.
Tommy needed drugs and was angry with Ron. Could he have taken Haleigh, hidden her, planned on making an exchange of some kind with Ron for Haleigh’s return, but Ron fouled the plan by calling LE?
Something else has been bothering me. In the phone conversation between Tommy and Chelsea, Chelsea says they are going to come down and search. Tommy tells her that won’t be necessary. That leaves me to wonder if Tommy knows that Haleigh is alive so there is no need to search, or he knows where her little body is and unless he tells she will not be found.
I left this comment on the last thread, but wasn’t sure if Little Bear saw it. So I copied and posted here too.
Little Bear – I agree with most of what you said, and well written too. One tiny little change I would make is Misty and the drugs, and Ron telling her where they were. Ron didn’t have to tell her where the drugs were. She knew and was probably still using that night.
You got me to thinking too…if there were more drugs in the house Misty would have had to dispose of them. They could have been thrown into the river or wherever Haleigh was buried. They could also have been put in the washing machine. I wonder if you could go back to the washing machine and look for traces of the drug in the piping or hoses.
Overall, great theory.
Linny – I’m not Simon or Jan obviously, but I thought I would give my thoughts anyway. Ron not having audio is because he is listening to his lawyer. He doesn’t want to hurt his plea deal. He is the “singing canary” in this game. He’s a part of the gang and did his part, but he doesn’t want as lengthy a jail time as he knows the others will get. We all thought it would be Misty who would squeal, but with Ron’s plea deal we see that it will be Ron.
When I think back to how Tommy and Hank were laughing and talking about Ron wanting to kill himself, and putting guns in his mouth, it makes me think that Ron is weaker minded than the rest of this bunch. Not stupid, but just weak minded. You would have to be weak minded to beat up on woman and children. IMO
Goodmorning Shockwave, I definrtly agree with your post.
Vaq: I saw your question on did Ron know Donna was undercover. I realize as this case goes on and on we all tend to forget details. I love when Cathy post the past articles because it helps refresh what has already been and it is a big help especially for new comers.
When the road rage happened on I-4 with Donna and Misty, Donna was exposed not only to Ron ,but all of us. It came out then that Donna worked for TE and all the other details soon followed. I posted the archive articles above to help.
oops – definitely
Hey
I’m just now catching up. I looked up Lindsey Croslin exposed. And it will not let me read the entire story. Can someone post on here for me please… Thanks
Thanks, Shockwave. You’re probably right. He probably didn’t have to tell her where they were, but maybe how to give her something she’ll take (broken up).
They probably had to take time to clean out the house. Remember the Geraldo interview “bricks of marijuana and plants all around the house.” hmmmm. I’m thinkin’ there was a LOT to clean up. Maybe Ronald called TN to help with cleaning the house? Would he trust Misty to do it alone?
You have me wondering more about TN now…
Ronfan, you are right on! I think Haleigh is alive (we have no proof of a murder or anything of the sort).
I like the way you tied the other 2 stooges into it and makes sense. There is a reason they are covering. Best explanation yet!
Little Bear – regarding trusting Misty…probably not. Which is when Tommy and possibly JO became involved. Also, if it’s true that Chelsea has a tattoo of Haleigh (weird) that you are right about that part of the family knowing as well.
I wonder if it’s possible Tommy called Timmy to go help instead of himself. I mean Timmy is the one who ran up North. It would explain Chelsea’s need to be so involved in helping Misty or Tommy.
I really don’t think TN is involved. I think Ron duped her with his innocent act. Then again, she did help get him out of trouble time and time again.
I’d love to believe your theory Ronfan, because Haleigh being alive would make us all so very happy, but then why the plea deal? If Ron makes a plea deal, then there has got to be evidence against Misty and Tommy about Haleigh.
Shockwave that is what I have been saying All Along!! Why would Ron through Misty and Tommy under the bus if he was involved. Honestly it would be rediculous because the two of them would be like F- You Ron now your coming down with us.. Ya Know what I mean?? Ron is not involved!!
He could get the better deal by rolling on the other 2. Thats why he is pleaing and ready to testify, Ron wants the 15 instead of 30 or more. He knows his case is open and shut with the videos, this is his only chance at a smaller sentence.jmo
Ron Fan did you see my post this little girl was 5 when she was abducted and 7 when she was found it does happen.
Drug charges aside. I think Ron is breaking down and telling the whole story of what happened to Haleigh…. Tommy and Misty are well aware of what is coming to them. You could definately tell when Hank started getting into it with Tommy about telling the truth and Tommy said he didn’t want to talk about it.
Ron has seen his tapes just like us and from whats on them (and after seeing Hope who had said nothing get 15) he knows he is sunk.Also he told Hope they offered him 25 and 15 is way better since he will do the 85% minus time served, he could be out in 11-12.jmo
Shockwave,
Isn’t ron testifying aginst tc and mc on the video-taped drug trafficking charges only at this point?
If anyone can seriously beleive that Tommy and Misty don’t know anything but have made up incredible stories is crazy… Misty and Tommy are 100% involved and that is a given.
Tanya–I am curious about your post. Can you send me a link or tell me where to look. Thanks.
If you tell the truth you don’t have to think about what to say… Both of them are guilty. No excuse for lying this whole time excepty for trying to get a story out there that is going to get you out of trouble. They have tried so hard and will continue to hold out on the truth. They aren’t scared of anyone, I think all involved made an extreme family pact that by know means would you ever tell what happened. By know means do you take officers to the body. No one tells or shows no ones guilty by law. NO Evidence, no body, no truth, no sentence.
And if ron did have something to do with Haleigh’s disappearance and tc and mc knew it and could provide proof, he’d wouldn’t speak against them, would he?
http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/nw_mich/Kidnapped-girl-found-in-northern-Mich
No Ron wouldn’t speak against them if he was guilty as well because they would pull him right down with them….
Right, no evidence, no body, no charges.
Unfortunately that’s what may be the end result here.
But, that’s the system. Its as fair as we can do it in this country.
Imo, something will turn soon.
What I hear on these tapes is Tommy saying he plans on leaving Florida as soon as he gets out. Someone needs to remind him that until Haleigh is found or her abductor(murderer) is found they will always be in the LE focus along with all the others. There is no statute of limitations on the Haleigh case no matter where he moves. Also it would influence the judge that he is a flight risk so they may give him more time until it gets solved. jmo
The only person I can see Misty protecting (besides herself) is Timmy. Even then I can’t see that girl keeping her mouth shut when she is facing maybe a hundred years in prison. No way she wouldn’t talk if she knew something concrete.
I feel very confortable with my theory of Misty and Tommy being guilty. I think everyone else should look back at the lies trying to brush the guiltiness off of them when It really comes and bites them in there asses because they admit to not telling the truth. Hank lets them know that they are barrying their own selves. If I was them and I was guilty as they were I would never talk about anything without my lawyer present.
Jaba, True Ron has his I was at werk alibi and the phone pings and the store video. Almost overkill huh? jmo
I have been all over this case since day one and I’m surprised I havn’t been fired yet because I follow this blog daily but rarely do I write my thoughts. I just wish everyone would look at the ones that are not being truthful and will admit to not being truthful. Its very apparent that those two or the core and know exact details.
With all the lawyers all of these people have been around they have been told not to say anything about their cases, yet they do. How dumb. They’ve admitted on jail tapes about the trafficking they did. Lawyer can’t do much at that point.
WhyLie said,
in May 26th, 2010 at 7:43 am
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Whylie–Very plausible.
Has LE talked to Tom me’s kids about the night he was supposedly babysitting his kids vs indulging in nefarious activities?
His cellphone pings checked for location, and usage? This would offer a pattern of activity.
Jaba- The Lawyers should have been all over there clients about talking about the case. They know they shouldn’t tlk about it yet they still do. They have a tough time saying anything about the case on tape because they have lied so much.. Poor Lawyers. But I imagine the lawyers know if the truth never comes out know one will pay for this crime. Sad but true. Still a rough one for them to try and protect there obvious guilty clients.
Jaba, Even Shoemaker said there really isnt anything to do but play the hand you are given. There is no way to help them out of this mess, its all on tape and its open and shut. The only thing that could save anyone is telling what they know about Haleigh, but only if its going to help and not hurt your case. jmo
Tobias,
As usual, you have a good point.
rons whereabouts are accounted for and maybe rightfully so.
Imo, he knows what MAY have happened because he’s heard so many stories and theories and since he’s heard it first hand and is in the middle of it, he can better put things together unlike we can.
Little Bear said,
in May 26th, 2010 at 9:27 am
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Hi Little Bear- re. maryjane bricks and plants- I do not remember seeing that on Geraldo’s. Can you find me a link or article so I can see the source. That is no small thing.
There has been cases where a conviction was handed down with-out a body… rare and hard to try, but can be done. I’m thinking that “they” misunderstood the law/procedure… kinda like the “Acid Bath Murderer”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corpus_delicti
But why would LE even need him for the trafficking charges? Its all on tape and you have UC cops for anything else?
If the tapes were kicked, ron would benefit like the others.
jaba – yeah, you are right about Ron giving testimony about the drug trafficking only and not about Haleigh. I had to go back and read a couple of articles. If that’s the case how does he even have a plea deal. The undercover detective caught all of this on surveillance camera. I guess there is more to the story than what we see on video?
As far as being wrong…that’s what I get for listening to NG. Which I have quit doing for the last couple of weeks now.
homespain:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=MQTaw18kNUg&feature=related
Anybody with me on Ron not taking the plea deal for the drugs but for placing Tommy and Misty directly involved with the Haleigh Case???
Shockwave said,
in May 26th, 2010 at 9:59 am
I’d love to believe your theory Ronfan, because Haleigh being alive would make us all so very happy, but then why the plea deal? If Ron makes a plea deal, then there has got to be evidence against Misty and Tommy about Haleig
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Shockwave, This plea deal isn’t in regards to Haleigh. Ron is making a deal in relation to drugs, squealing on Tommy and Misty so he doesn’t spend his life in prison for 3 counts of trafficking .
I believe that Rons alibis are just overkill.
It was enough that he was at werk, but then you have all the pings and the store video.
Its like he wanted added protection with all the extra alibis. To be sure he was untouchable. And most of the stories the Croslins have used came from Ron, the Mexican drug dealers, Joe and the gators(cobra tapes),
the Sheffield abductions these all came from Ron. Ron even says maybe she will pop up in Montana (why Montana?) Ron also is the smartest not to give out any tapes. jmo
You have to liesten and watch NG becasue you get the addition of subtitles on the videos and the repetition she uses to understand what they are doing on tape.
You also get live guests like flo hollers and others.
I like it for that.
I could list reasons that I don’t like it but I don’t want to crash this site with that sized post.:)
I like all the tv and blogs and reporters looking at it. Helps me get a picture of what went on and continues to go on now.
jaba said,
in May 26th, 2010 at 10:21 am
And if ron did have something to do with Haleigh’s disappearance and tc and mc knew it and could provide proof, he’d wouldn’t speak against them, would he?
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and there you go…. logical
You have your opinion and I have mine. They don’t need that kind of plea deal. Sherrif Hardy wants this case solved and wants one of them to give key information. I beleive all 3 of them got the same option of the plea deal regarding information on Haleigh and Ron was the first to act….
I believe the plea deal for Ronald was just shock value to get to Misty. JMO
tobias said,
in May 26th, 2010 at 10:29 am
Jaba, True Ron has his I was at werk alibi and the phone pings and the store video. Almost overkill huh? jmo
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tobias- Don’t see why it’s over kill at all, to have your cell phone with you at work, go to get refreshments etc at a convenience store after work. Normal thing for most people. The reason so many stores before and work shifts are often crowded.
If he didn’t have his cell on and pinging at work people would then claim he wasn’t there and why wasn’t he available by phone in case misty had a problem withe children.
Fights or not with Misty- that was a pretty common theme to their relationship. The guy worked late hours and wanted to unwind with a beer, smoke cigarettes and eat some nuts. I do not get how that is odd.
Some people surmise that Ron should have rushed home cause Misty didn’t answer the phone. Misty goes away and withdraws when she’s had enough of Ron. Just like the previous weekend when she left Ron for a few days. Routine dysfunctional life for them.
Dmo, I hear ya’. 🙂
D MO said,
in May 26th, 2010 at 10:56 am
You have your opinion and I have mine. They don’t need that kind of plea deal. Sherrif Hardy wants this case solved and wants one of them to give key information. I beleive all 3 of them got the same option of the plea deal regarding information on Haleigh and Ron was the first to act….
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Interesting observation… but how do you know that is true?
Here is what I would do if I were their family members(Thank God Im not). Show them Tough Love
Isolate both Tommy and Misty –No contact at all in any shape or form. No visits, No Phone Calls, No Letters, No adding money to their accounts so they can buy things.
They have tried everything else to get them to tell the truth couldn’t hurt to try. One or Both of them know what happened or part of the story.
As you seen in the tapes and these phone calls. What they constantly ask for is visits, money and calls. Cut that off and it will make them go crazy.
looking for Justice said,
in May 26th, 2010 at 11:02 am
I believe the plea deal for Ronald was just shock value to get to Misty. JMO
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Looking for Justice—And it will get to her…..but may not get LE the results they expect.
Along time in prison for drugs is better than a long time in prison for being responsible for a girl dying.
homespain. I’m with you on that… They tracked his every move after work. Getting beer and smokes after work is a normal routine for so many people.
I look at it this way. What info would Ronald have to do with Haleigh? He was at work. He claimed to have no knowledge of what happened. If he had found out something why didn’t he act on it or take it to LE? He was out trafficking drugs with Misty. What is this ugly coping like Casey? “I had to go traffic drugs because I was looking for Haleigh” ? The only thing Ronald was looking for was his next score, not his beautiful daughter.
I believe that plea deal Ron supposedly made\
was for the soul purpose was for Misty and
Tommy to hear.
Todd said,
in May 26th, 2010 at 11:13 am
Here is what I would do if I were their family members(Thank God Im not). Show them Tough Love
Isolate both Tommy and Misty –No contact at all in any shape or form. No visits, No Phone Calls, No Letters, No adding money to their accounts so they can buy things.
They have tried everything else to get them to tell the truth couldn’t hurt to try. One or Both of them know what happened or part of the story.
As you seen in the tapes and these phone calls. What they constantly ask for is visits, money and calls. Cut that off and it will make them go crazy.
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Agree!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In these tapes we hear Misty talking about Ronald. This tape was prior to hearing about Ronald trying to cut a plea deal and the PA considering it. I think it is a tactic to really get Misty upset and really let loose on Ronald. It may not work, but I believe LE will work with what they have to use.JMO
Like it or not…in this country, even the prisoners have rights. Thankfully we have prison mate on prison mate crime to even the score. Did I say that? 🙂
D MO said,
in May 26th, 2010 at 11:15 am
homespain. I’m with you on that… They tracked his every move after work. Getting beer and smokes after work is a normal routine for so many people.
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Thanks D MO- Yea, it seems that concentrating on the big stuff is confusing enough given the players in this case. Some things are just what they are. Nice you could join in today.
looking for Justice. He wasn’t working for LE. It was a sting operation and probably a pretty easy one concidering how many deals these guys were making. I’m surprised there was only around 10 on tape. Follow ROnaald and Misty and Tommy around and it’s a guarentee within a few days you will have a hand full of deals going on. The stings were easy for LE… I just have my suspicions Ron is taking a completely different plea deal then everyone thinks. Yeah he might if somehow been involved but he might of tried to be the “cool” “Gangsta,” non snitch type guy that everyone in his little core of friends thinks he is…
Looking for justice said–……The only thing Ronald was looking for was his next score, not his beautiful daughter.
Hear, hear!!!!!
DMO. I did not say he was working for LE. You may want to re-read my post.
Looking for Justice. I see what you said after rereading.
ooking for Justice said,
in May 26th, 2010 at 11:21 am
In these tapes we hear Misty talking about Ronald. This tape was prior to hearing about Ronald trying to cut a plea deal and the PA considering it. I think it is a tactic to really get Misty upset and really let loose on Ronald. It may not work, but I believe LE will work with what they have to use.JMO
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Good point. Ron is Misty’s weak spot for sure. It does seem to throw her off equilibrium.
Shockwave said,
in May 26th, 2010 at 11:22 am
Like it or not…in this country, even the prisoners have rights. Thankfully we have prison mate on prison mate crime to even the score. Did I say that? 🙂
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I understand your point but…. that’s just wrong.
I have a thing about people serving their time and they shouldn’t get raped, diseases, abused, or killed for other than their actual sentence.
I believe this is why they need Misty to talk. Only she can place Ronald. LE knows he is rotten, but they do not have anything or anyone to corraborate what they know except Misty. Misty will be charges in the disappearance and whoever else that helped, but they want the main culprit who devised the plan. I still think it was an OD and Ron instructed on what to do. This is also why I do not believe Haleigh is in that river.
I agree with you 100% Homespain! 100%!
And for those who seem to think such incidents against prisoners are a good thing they may want to research hte very many multi million dollar lawsuits have been filed (and rightfully so) and won at the expense of “we” the taxpayer!
HOMESPAIN Anyone? I just wanted to make one more comment on Alecia Dunbar- this is from her myspace page and I found it to be very interesting as she is trying to get info from ronald.
My career path took a big turn, so now I am working from home while I pursue my new career through Kaplan University. I decided to venture away from child psychology and am now going back to college again and almost finished with my Criminal Justice w/ emphasis on forensic psychology Bachelor’s of Science degree. I know, a lot has changed if we have not talked in a while! My doctoral degree will be in Forensic Psychology with a master’s in Criminology and may one day be able to do Criminal Profiling. Right now, I am an at-home customer advocate for ProFlowers (through West), medical transcriptionist, Quicktate transcriptionist, and a student. I also do interactive chat sessions and surveys for chump change and some Ebay. So when am I not busy? Haha, pretty much NEVER! Obviously, I have “escaped” the abusive situation I was in for too long and “re-connected” with the good head on my shoulders in the past couple of years. I know a lot has changed in those regards of profession and what I am up to, but I wouldn’t have it any other way! Life is pretty good right now, and my children sure are the apples of my eye! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
so dont know if its true but interesting- if you know if it is or not let me know if im waistin breath. 🙂
she almost has a degree in criminal justice and is interested in criminal profiling
I was at first sceptical about the whole OD thing but after learing about this family and all players concidered I think that is very possible. No river was ever used. I beleive the key players burried her somewhere so deep and made a pact to never under any circumstances tell the truth. They would be in alot better shape if they just stuck with the I dont know story instead of making up lies.
I pray to “GOD” that Haleigh is still alive somewhere. JS.(Marty) has stated that he and
Ron used to still the kids from one another
And Haleigh being taken was right a the heels of Caylee story , maybe someone thought it would be good time to take her,because Caylee
case was so big that Haleigh would not been noticed that much. and now whoever may have her
can’t say anything because they were not gonna
get arrested. (JS words).
I guess I’ll try to keep her alive until someone proves differently.
Cricket I pray we are all wrong…..! But why the lies. There is something there.
Tuff Stuff said,
in May 26th, 2010 at 11:36 am
I agree with you 100% Homespain! 100%!
And for those who seem to think such incidents against prisoners are a good thing they may want to research hte very many multi million dollar lawsuits have been filed (and rightfully so) and won at the expense of “we” the taxpayer!
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I got that you were kidding. I know we agree on this. it’s just one of my things.
I have certainly entertained those very thoughts with inmates who commit heinous crimes.
Misty did not react to the divorce that was brought on by her loving Husband in the way that suggested that she was shocked or terribly hurt. I believe that the divorce was simply for the purpose that Ron explained, to keep the focus off of them in the media and elsewhere.
imo It’s what they both agreed to do and low and behold they ended up back together, if they were ever truly apart that is.
Many times Ron and TN were on NG show and they were clearly pointing the finger at Misty with their responses and comments imo. The implication was that they believed that Misty knew more than she was telling. (Which completely contradicts the other times when Ron stated that he believed Misty yada yada yada.)
Misty did not react negatively to those remarks from Ron and TN either as far as I can tell.
In one of the recently released jail house tapes Misty had told her Father that Ron and his family were just using her.
I believe that Misty is finally coming around to seeing the real score card that truly shows her as the number one loser.
All jmo.
Todd said,in May 26th, 2010 at 11:13 am Here is what I would do if I were their family members(Thank God Im not). Show them Tough Love
Isolate both Tommy and Misty –No contact at all in any shape or form. No visits, No Phone Calls, No Letters, No adding money to their accounts so they can buy things.
They have tried everything else to get them to tell the truth couldn’t hurt to try. One or Both of them know what happened or part of the story.
As you seen in the tapes and these phone calls. What they constantly ask for is visits, money and calls. Cut that off and it will make them go crazy.
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would you like their fingernails pulled out too?
Their INNOCENT til proven guilty, remember?
Cricket I see what you are saying,but think it about it like this for a minute. Haleigh Anne-Marie Cummings/ Caylee Marie Anthony. They are very similiar in their names. To me Haleigh being reported missing on the day of Caylees memorial would bring the media and attention it did. I just think the players thought the attention would go away quickly once they put it out there that she vanished and some unknown abducted her, but it back fired!!
looking for Justice said,
in May 26th, 2010 at 11:35 am
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Agreed!
For anyone who sees Ron, Tommy or other players in this case as having “harmless addictions”, or believes Ron is basically a good guy……read the following. For those who say….”give them a chance”…”they just need some assistance”….”they need our help, not our hatred”….read the following. This is just ONE example of someone who was given chance after chance, assistance after assistance, breaks after breaks…..and a child died. I can provided you with 20 more cases JUST like this one that mirror the behaviors of the Cummings/Croslin clan….they all end the same.
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“Oxycontin Jones
Joe Smith was sentenced to six months of house arrest in March 2000 for a narcotics violation involving Oxycontin, an addictive prescription opiate used to treat chronic pain.
He attended rehab at Phoenix House that May as part of his sentence, but a month later his wife tipped his probation officer that Smith was again strung out on Oxycontin. She had 20 bottles of the pills as proof.
A judge opted to extend Smith’s probation rather than lock him up, and a probation officer gave him glowing reports over the ensuing six months.
Smith opened then expanded his own car repair shop and was in “connubial bliss,” as the officer put it, over the birth of a daughter.
“Definite improvement,” the officer wrote about Smith in February 2001. “Coming up in the world.”
But he was arrested and jailed that September after trying to pass a fraudulent prescription for Dilaudid, another addictive opiate.
Smith sat in jail for nearly 13 months, from Dec. 13, 2001, until Jan. 1, 2003. But just nine days after Smith was freed, police found him so high on cocaine that he had passed out in his car on a city street.
Rather than send Smith back to jail, Sarasota Circuit Judge Harry Rapkin extended his probation by three years. That August, Smith grabbed a knife and threatened to kill himself during an argument with his wife, and he was committed to a mental health facility. But he was out in less than a month.
Jobless and homeless, he flopped with the Pincuses and did odd jobs around the neighborhood to fund his boundless drug habit.
Smith frittered away one chance after another handed to him by the justice system. In the end, those second chances left him free to cross paths with poor Carlie Brucia on that Super Bowl Sunday in 2004.”
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Carlie Brucia, for those who might not remember, was 11 years old. She was brutally raped and murdered by this creep. He had been given all types of assistance, counseling, therapy, drug rehab…..and probation over and over again. He should have been BEHIND bars and Carlie would still be alive.
Ron and the rest of this crew exhibit the exact same disregard for others. It is ALL about them and their next fix. They are dangerous, they do NOT want help and will continue to abuse drugs AND the legal system if allowed off with probation or short prison terms. I say throw away the key as the world is a MUCH better place without these losers….and our children are safer.
I’ve read case after case after case JUST like this. They all exhibit the same lifestyles, the same disregard for safety or the safety of the children in their care. They all deal with weapons, and risky behaviors. They all display warning signs…..but receive only slaps on the wrist…..until someone dies….but by then it is too late.
I don’t believe Haleigh had to die. But because the system is TOO tolerant of these drug addicts, she did. If the system had thrown Ron, Crystal, Misty, Tommy, Hank, Lisa and the rest of the merry band of crackheads in jail and left them there, we wouldn’t be discussing Haleigh’s disappearance or death. But instead the “system” gave them chance after chance….each time the crimes get a little worse….until finally a child goes missing….and STILL we have those that see Ron and others behaviors as being harmless. I say….WAKE THE FUGG UP PEOPLE!
D MO,
which lies are you reffering to ? so I can
get them sraight in my head
A little more background on Smith…..and Florida…..
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In many ways, Smith embodied the American criminal justice dilemma over narcotics.
He was arrested more than a dozen times in Florida, mostly for felony drug violations. Under the law, he could have been locked up for long stretches. But again and again, he was allowed to plead no contest in exchange for probation, community supervision, house arrest or mandatory drug rehab.
At times, Smith was a functioning member of society, with a home, a family and a job. Probation officers seemed to like him; they wrote hopeful reports on his progress. And when he fell off the wagon, Smith often managed to convince a judge that he deserved another shot.
And he got plenty of them.
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And it cost Carlie her life! Still want to go easy on these losers? So what happens when they get desperate for their drugs and their next fix? Who do they hurt to get the drugs their bodies crave? What happens to anyone who gets in their way? And what about the children in their care WHEN they are stoned out of their minds on drugs? For ANYONE to find ANY of Ron’s actions as a father acceptable is downright appalling to me! WAKE UP!
Kristie said,
in May 26th, 2010 at 11:37 am
HOMESPAIN Anyone? I just wanted to make one more comment on Alecia Dunbar- this is from her myspace page and I found it to be very interesting as she is trying to get info from ronald.
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Kristie, thanks for getting that to me.
That entry is the opposite of what winterrose said last night when she was lOL repeatedly in her comment at the misinformation about her.
Pretty confusing, but gives credence to why there is confusion.that ilooks like more what I saw on the current facebook. the video seen of her w/ Joran sts. her love for him makes me really wonder about her though. Incidentally the same with Ron recordings.
Sure would like a link to those so I can see for my self.
homespain,
I am not kidding. Not even kind of.
I’ve followed many lawsuits brought on by inmates and the lawsuits were absolutely justified.
We cannot agree to or allow unfair treatment of any inmate to continue lest we all become hypocrits who are no better than the inmate who is being punished under the laws of this great country.
jmvho.
I also believe in the death penalty believe it or not and if someone like the monster who murdered Polly Klaas was sentenced to the death penalty then it should be carried out accordingly.
The State of California has decided differently and how can that be justice served for Polly or her family members?
My apologies for the off topic convo.
JB I love your post!!!
Cricket
She admitted to Hank that She was lying about Joe doing what he did….. Tommy also told Hank that his sister is full of chit even though he was walked through the same lie by Gma Hollars. Misty placed Tommy at the scene and then on the most recent video she says she never said Tommy was involved….. There are plenty of more scenerios she created but I’m sure you have heard the majority of those.
Homespain and Tuff Stuff – Losen you holes! Didn’t you notice the smiley face emoticon? I was just joking. I’m not even for the death penalty.
Shockwave dont sweat it… We know your all good.
Shockwave I realize that you are joking now.
No problem.
(LOLing at “losen your holes”…which one? HA HA HA J/K J/K! Ahahahaha!)
Did anyone else get the sense that Misty was neither suprised nor shocked at the divorce or the comments that Ron and TN were making about her on the tv shows?
lfj,
If you look at it that way Haleigh could be alive or dead.
homespain
Thank you for the reply
You know Cricket I would love for Haleigh to be alive. I held out hope for a very long time. I just do not feel the Sheriff is lying about this being a homicide. Why would Tommy place himself at the seen of an homicide?
Is Tommy still putting himself as being involved. I don’t beleive so…..
Homesain
another interstin link to Alecia Kay Dunbar- her family members on her friends RON As her profile.
she seems normal to me
http://www.facebook.com/people/Alecia-Kay-Dunbar/1540512660
D MO, Tommy says he did not do it( meaning the murder) He just places himself at the dump site and he took LE to Shell Harbour. He said he was threatened.
Cricket said,
in May 26th, 2010 at 11:40 am
I pray to “GOD” that Haleigh is still alive somewhere. JS.(Marty) has stated that he and
Ron used to still the kids from one another
And Haleigh being taken was right a the heels of Caylee story , maybe someone thought it would be good time to take her,because Caylee
case was so big that Haleigh would not been noticed that much. and now whoever may have her
can’t say anything because they were not gonna
get arrested. (JS words).
I guess I’ll try to keep her alive until someone proves differently.
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I can understand that for sure Cricket. I would love to be wrong.
These tapes are before the Shell Harbour search.
I have to run for now. BBL
That’s why the jail tapes are so confusiong because I swear in one of them Misty tells Hank she doesn’t know if Joe was involved or doesn’t place Joe there… Anyone else with me on that. I know I heard either Misty or Tommy say Joe didn’t do it……?
In 15 months LE has not given the public one iota of evidence that this case is a homicide. Nothing, nada, zip.
They searched and drained a pond based on statements given by a person who has a record for attempting fraud. Nothing.
They have now searched an area of river based on the statements of a known criminal who has said over and over he will do whatever he has to do to get out of jail. So far nothing, and I would guess by now lab work would be back.
I think LE needs to put up or shut up. They can easily disclose to the public just what they are basing their presumption Haleigh has been murdered on without compromising the case.
JB,
Thanks for that post! It should hit a nerve in all of us. People wake up…jmo
Excellent posts JB! Well worth the read. TY
D MO,
Yes those lies did happen but Misty has been
in spot light since Haleigh came up missing.
I would sure like to no if they taped her
while they head banging her. Misty mind is really screwed up she’s been in a living Hell
as far I concerned they have put her thru the wringer. She didn’t have a lawyer with her.
they badgered her so much poor girl doesn’t no
whether to sh!! or go blind . hasn’t anyone seen how the cops do people when they interrogate these people.
Has anyone seen the case of that young guy in
New Mexico,he killed dad,step-mother,step sister he was 16 I believe. he had no one with him when they interrogating him,it was sad they they abused that young boy. there’s plenty of cases like this out there.
Like she said the cops give all these senors out there saying this what we believe happened.
Todd said,in May 26th, 2010 at 11:13 am Here is what I would do if I were their family members(Thank God Im not). Show them Tough Love
Isolate both Tommy and Misty –No contact at all in any shape or form. No visits, No Phone Calls, No Letters, No adding money to their accounts so they can buy things.
They have tried everything else to get them to tell the truth couldn’t hurt to try. One or Both of them know what happened or part of the story.
As you seen in the tapes and these phone calls. What they constantly ask for is visits, money and calls. Cut that off and it will make them go crazy.
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would you like their fingernails pulled out too?
Their INNOCENT til proven guilty, remember?
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The Familes not contacting them by any means and ripping out fingernails are TWO completely different things. Nice Try OJ 😉
If I was a grandparent and I knew that my child was the last person to be seen with my grandchild I would want answers and if they were constantly lying and failed 4 LD’s. As much as I loved my child and would stand behind them through out the process. I’d have to dish out tough love that I spoke previously.
Which brings me back to Tommy and Misty. BOTH OF THEM have failed lie detector tests according to reports. Even if they aren’t personally responsible to whatever happened to Haleigh.
IMO ONE or BOTH of them know something that lead up to it.
I do agree with you Innocent until proven guilty. I hope and pray Misty and Tommy had nothing to do with it and the REAL person is caught. I just feel it doesn’t look good for them to be completely innocent in this case.
You have your opinion and I respect it and I hope you respect mine
uff Stuff said,
in May 26th, 2010 at 11:58 am
homespain,
I am not kidding. Not even kind of.
I’ve followed many lawsuits brought on by inmates and the lawsuits were absolutely justified.
We cannot agree to or allow unfair treatment of any inmate to continue lest we all become hypocrits who are no better than the inmate who is being punished under the laws of this great country.
jmvho.
I also believe in the death penalty believe it or not and if someone like the monster who murdered Polly Klaas was sentenced to the death penalty then it should be carried out accordingly.
The State of California has decided differently and how can that be justice served for Polly or her family members?
My apologies for the off topic convo.
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Hi- If you go re read the original streams between us, I’ll think you’ll find that you said that inmates may should do alittle of their own “justice” on prisoners, and inferred you were kidding about that.
I said I understood you didn’t really mean that, and that i had a thing about that, even as a joke, because I thought inmates should do their time and not be raped, made ill w/ HIV , tb etc, or abuse. I was acknowledging you did not agree that should happen.
I also said I admit that I have entertained those thoughts when certain fiends did something I could not abide and wanted them to suffer.
I recognize the difference between those feelings and believing at all that it is ok to do that.
So I doubt that we disagree at all.
How many times did Crystal look for her missing daughter? Does anyone know? I am curious because I hear of all Ronald’s shortcomings but never actually hear what Crystal was doing during all this. If it was me, I would be like Diena Thompson (Somer’s mother) or Amber Dubois’s mother. My face would be seen and my daughter’s picture would be everywhere and her story would be the focus on every news show I could get on. Searches would be coordinated every chance I could get. I would be at police station demanding answers out of anyone I could find. LE would not tell me that I could not use the media to find my daughter, because ultimately the public is what is going to get the results. I don’t care if I was media savvy, because my primary concern would be getting my daughter’s story out there anyway I can. Websites would be set up to detail every aspect of the case, as well as any tips that the media attention garners. Haleigh would be the primary focus, not the bit players that have hampered this case since day one. I would unite with the father’s family to pursue any and all avenues of getting my daughter home, instead of building an undeniable chasm that ultimately leads to a breakdown of communication. It should not be life as usual UNTIL Haleigh comes home. Everyone in all the families have moved on like Haleigh was just a blip on the radar. Sixteen months and the primary players have not cracked. It seems to me that LE might have missed something that could lead to a resolution. Some of Ron’s behavior cannot be explained. Misty and Tommy’s lies cannot be ignored. The Sheffield silence is suspicious as well. Some of their early statements early on are suspect too. I would not let LE dictate every aspect of this case. Their focus is the investigation. I AM MY DAUGHTER’S SPOKESPERSON. I would be willing to answer any and all questions pertaining to my life so the focus can move to finding my daughter. I would demand full cooperation for any and all family members (father included). No one lead a pristine life in this case. Just because Haleigh disappeared from Ron’s home on Misty’s watch does not mean that they are responsible. Let’s start with the theory that all the world is a suspect, and that includes the Sheffields as well. Remember Amber DuBois was considered a runaway by LE early on–which was a crucial mistake. Now we know that she was the victim of a sexual predator, and ultimately the reasoning that Amber ran away led to the death of another young woman. LE was wrong, pure and simple, and I think they are wrong about this case too. No one should be ruled out–the Sheffields and the sexual predators need a second look–and an unbiased one at that. JMO
looking for Justice said,
in May 26th, 2010 at 11:58 am
JB I love your post!!
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very good
D MO,
that’s exactly what I heard.
Okay, maybe I missed it, but somewhere above someone said something about Ron saying something about Haleigh in Montana. I googled Montana, and Sheffield’s and found the following my space page:
http://www.myspace.com/jennifertownson
If you haven’t already, look at her pictures. One picture is titled “Our Haleigh”. Connie Sheffield is in one of the photos, and one girl looks almost identical to Crystal. Regardless, Ron could have very intelligently mentioned Montana for a reason. Surely I did not stumble upon this by myself. I mean, this is old news right?
Shockwave I appreciate your posts and I truly hope you got my silly comment for what it meant.
It’s not as if you stated specifically well anything so I was left to decide wether you were suggesting a possible anal retentive disorder or that perhaps we should loosen our lips and potentially even flap our gums on the subject even more.
ok well um….I think I’ll just leave it alone now.
mmm hmm I’m zipping it.
bbl
homespain ???
ok tty’all later.
Does anyone really believe that Misty or Tommy really know anything? I am thinking…if they did they would be singing like birds in order to make deals, shorter prison time…etc. Am beginning to think they know nothing!
Robin they do not think like we do. These familes don’t have a clue! I am with you! I would be exhausting all resources and family and friends..plus the media to my advantage to find my child.
TN got there after the police did so does not seem to quick to me.
Yeah, Tuff Stuff, jokingly of course…let go of that corn cob stuck in the back door. I don’t want to get kicked out… so I hope you get what I mean? For what it’s worth – I was joking again! 🙂
Okie… I definately beleive the two of them are involved. They are the ring leaders of these lies!!
D MO,
I forgot to say Misty is the one that I
heard say that.
and Tommy story doesn’t hold water.He just out wants out so bad because his wife is divorcing him
It’s killing him.
After all he said about Misty and Joe story
then tells the story he told.
Yes D MO they are involved with the drugs and thinking Misty was the ring leader of the drug sting. But when Tommy told LE that he was at the MH that night to check on Misty after Ron called…he was let out of jail.
So why haven’t they talked? If they are not involved with Haligh and know who is they should give up all they know in order to help LE solve this case. JMO
Todd said,
in May 26th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
Todd said,in May 26th, 2010 at 11:13 am Here is what I would do if I were their family members(Thank God Im not). Show them Tough Love
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Great points Todd,
After all it is the families prerogative to visit or not, and has nothing to do with innocence or guilt.
It is a tool the family can choose to use if they want to actually accomplish their goal: which is that they believe misty is not telling the whole story.
She may be telling the truth. The family has a right not to believe her.
If Misty is later found guilty, the family can choose to visit or not. Their choice. There can be a a separate discussion about the moral aspect. but that’s another animal. It may leave Misty feeling tortured, but it isn’t torture, and Le isn’t doing to her.
The argument used against your point is a common typical emotional ploy used. It’s like apples and oranges.
Ok Homespain
here is something Very Interesting – Kelly is Ronalds side of the family. sykes side remember ron was raised by sykes.
heres info copied and pasted on this site from her – if I type her whole name she will find it here so I wont.
she is on mistys side and not rons wierd huh
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=7065.500
If I am not mistaken Tommy was the one who said Joe wasn’t involved. Misty said on the Today Show very early in the case that she suspected Joe.
Robin
Why did Crystal put out picture of her and the kids that were photo-shopped.
robin said,
in May 26th, 2010 at 12:39 pm
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Robin, Very well written, many good points. Taken to heart.
Like I said before Drugs Aside… Tommy and Misty are involved in Haleighs dissapearance directly. They aren’t helping with the investigation because they are guilty and don’t want to implicate themselves.
Shockwave said,
in May 26th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
Homespain and Tuff Stuff – Losen you holes! Didn’t you notice the smiley face emoticon? I was just joking. I’m not even for the death penalty.
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Please don’t speak to me that way, really not necessary or appropriate. Take your own advice ok? LOL
Kristie said,
in May 26th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
homespain
Thank you for the reply
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You’re welcome Kristie,
I appreciate you looking it up. Enjoy reading your comments.
Tuff Stuff said,
in May 26th, 2010 at 12:43 pm
homespain ???
ok tty’all later.
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hey there, I’m here.
D MO I am sure your right. I just wish LE could get a break in this case and solve it and bring Haligh home. Misty and Tommy just don’t seem intelligent enough to dodge Le for this long. IMO 🙁
misty was no more than 3 feet from Haleigh, maybe closer.
She should and is being looked at hard. No mystery there to me.
Then LE expands from there. Where else would they start?
I think LE is taping every conversation with all people they have questioned. If anyone has been wronged to the level of torure, then that can be brought out by misty or other suspects or by well meaning people in the public who believe a wrong has been committed. Let’s see if that happens one day. I doubt it but you never know.
If a person is telling the truth it’s much easier to keep your stories straight. Much harder to keep a lie straight.
okie222 said,
in May 26th, 2010 at 12:55 pm
If I am not mistaken Tommy was the one who said Joe wasn’t involved. Misty said on the Today Show very early in the case that she suspected Joe.
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Seem to remember that too Okie 222. The stories have gone through evolutions. Not clear what the deal is any more.
Although I appreciate that if Misty thinks JO didn’t do it that she says so cause if is wrong to incriminate Jo if it isn’t true. That speaks in her behalf and demonstrates a conscious, which is good.
Jail is a nasty place to be, but it’s forced Misty to get her head clear of drugs.
I think she’s brighter than most people think. Learning problems don’t necc. indicate a lack of intelligence. Her upbringing and poor education, as well as drugs, and emotional trauma can make her appear less intelligent. IMO
JB–I love your post and I agree that habitual drug users should be incarcerated. The Carlie Brucia case was a stranger abduction/murder–something this case very well could be. It has never been given much thought, and probably less investigation. If Carlie had never been seen on the video camera, we could very well be looking at the Croslin/Cummings case. Carlie’s mother did not live above reproach, as we all are aware of now. If the footage of the video camera was not found, then I am sure Carlie’s mother would be suspect number one. Smith deserves everything coming to him and he should have been dealt with a long time before that. He took an innocent life and he is going to pay with his own. Not only are the Croslins and Cummings drug addicts, but the Sheffields have been as well. Let’s paint them all with the same brush. JMO
They don’t seem that intellegent but look at it this way. Tragedy occurs. Burriel takes place. Pact with group to never give up the hiding spot takes place. Its not hard not to say where the burriel took place. Deny Deny Deny to the day they all die. I think thats what they all agreed to do. You can be drugged up and dumb and still be able to mutter the words I don’t know what happened. It sounds like these characters know the area like the back of there hand and knew the perfect place to handle this business that no one would ever think to look. If it was my neck of the woods I could think of a few great places to hide something that would never be found. Ya Know???
Hello all! I haven’t read thru ALL the comments yet but I’m hoping someone can clear up who the author of the iReport article was? I didn’t get a chance to see it on iReport – it was already pulled! Thanks!!
LFJ,
I think Tommy believes that Haleigh is dead
and he doesn’t no what happened could ofbeen
Joe could of been Misty or Ron.
He wants out so bad that he is willing to out himself out there for less time. All he said was he saw Haleigh in the van and Joe pu t a knife
to his throat.
okie222 said,in May 26th, 2010 at 12:55 pm If I am not mistaken Tommy was the one who said Joe wasn’t involved. Misty said on the Today Show very early in the case that she suspected Joe.
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They’ve all said so many different stories I don’t know WHAT to believe anymore.
It wasn’t that long ago Tommy was telling Hank on jailhouse tapes that Misty was lying about Joe and that he wasn’t going to lie to the police and point the finger at Joe if he was innocent. Next thing you know Tommy is claiming it was Joe. Now we are back to “Misty is lying”…of course I’m not sure which story of Misty’s Tommy is referring to because it has gone from “I know nothing” to “there were four men” to “Tommy and Joe were there and Joe did it” to “It will hurt two people we care about” to “Tommy did it” to Gawd only knows what. These people can’t stick with a story long enough for the ink to dry and the confession and they’re already spouting a new one! UGH! 😆
robin said,
in May 26th, 2010 at 1:12 pm
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ditto, good argument
Robin did you find that link and i totally agree with everything you said! I would be my childs advocate and never stop start searching!
Cricket said,in May 26th, 2010 at 12:55 pm Robin
Why did Crystal put out picture of her and the kids that were photo-shopped.
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to my understanding,she didn’t.she didn’t have any pix of them period,so ah to my understanding had them made for her?
and stamped them ah.but later “to my undrstanding” was proven fakes!
to my understanding,
with mg help!
D MO said,
in May 26th, 2010 at 1:14 pm
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I hear you. If she was buried how come the dogs didn’t hit on a spot in your opinion, given what you think happened?
Ronfan, where do i find joes’ myspace, i would like to look at it as i also belive joe is the iller! No indication joe is innocent! Has anyone heard if any info on the materials collected at st.johns river and sent to university of florida laboratory that specializes in identifying human remains, i have not been able to find out anything on this. Maybe police are keeping info close to the vest!there were items sent there that were collected from river search!
JB Nice post. Agreed!
gotta go now. Later
Cj said,in May 26th, 2010 at 12:46 pm TN got there after the police did so does not seem to quick to me.
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within 3-5 minutes of the call??
I think AH did that because Crystal wouldnt give him pictures. Cant blame her after NG treated her so harshly. There are pictures out there if you look for them. I have even seem pictures of Ron, Crystal and kids before everything ended. jmo
to my understanding,she didn’t own any!
she had tons of chloe on myspace,maybe 2 of Haleigh!
i can still blame him for making them Tobia?? lol he’s a journalist?? right?
sorry never “stop”
Homespain said:
I hear you. If she was buried how come the dogs didn’t hit on a spot in your opinion, given what you think happened?
Dogs can’t hit on a spot they aren’t close enough to.. Think of a spot that you could hide a GOLD NUGGET worth millions that you know no one will ever be or walk on and bury it there. We all have places in our hometowns that we know no one ever goes or ever would go.. Whether its deep in the woods or….
CathyJo,
It was a picture that AH. put out there but why in GODS name didn’t they stop him. If AH did it
that’s pretty lo,But I think Kim P had a hand in it. whoever photo-shopped it sure did a P P job of it Crystal supposed are is a man’s arm.
and there are allot of other things that look
completely ignorant.
okie222 said,in May 26th, 2010 at 12:43 pm Does anyone really believe that Misty or Tommy really know anything? I am thinking…if they did they would be singing like birds in order to make deals, shorter prison time…etc. Am beginning to think they know nothing!
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imvho Misty doesn’t
Tommy was there!
tobias said,in May 26th, 2010 at 1:25 pm I think AH did that because Crystal wouldnt give him pictures. Cant blame her after NG treated her so harshly. There are pictures out there if you look for them. I have even seem pictures of Ron, Crystal and kids before everything ended. jmo
I have seen them to and they all look like a Happy family!
CathyJo check this out.
the levi page show gave info on Alecia was incorrect –
She is the one alking to ron and she is majoring (for real) in criminal justice to be a criminal profiler. she is tryin to get info from ron-
look at her letters pasted here with kelly
(I find out is rons cousins wife- On Mistys side)
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=7065.500
right Cricket,they all knew it,lol imo too
~ TN said that ‘she sent’ AS over to the MH that night, yet didn’t volunteer that info up until about 2 weeks later. And still didn’t mention, at that time, the family member who came along with AS, who just by chance, happens to be a nurse. Was something wrong with Haleigh? Had she ‘fallen asleep’ and couldn’t be awakened, fell into a coma, was she having some kind of physical reaction to having somehow been given (or had taken) something that was causing her great distress? Was the family member who is a nurse brought over to help care for Haleigh? Is that what the 8:30p (or so) fight on the phone with Ron was about? Perhaps them telling him that they’d take care of things, and for him to stay at work and act as if all was well??? (wouldn’t you just lovvvvvvve to see the phone records for everyone for that night?? whose phone pinged where….)
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someone asked about as and tn last night referring to this article,don’t remember who!
robin said,in May 26th, 2010 at 12:39 pm How many times did Crystal look for her missing daughter? Does anyone know? I am curious because I hear of all Ronald’s shortcomings but never actually hear what Crystal was doing during all this. If it was me, I would be like Diena Thompson (Somer’s mother) or Amber Dubois’s mother. My face would be seen and my daughter’s picture would be everywhere and her story would be the focus on every news show I could get on. Searches would be coordinated every chance I could get. I would be at police station demanding answers out of anyone I could find. LE would not tell me that I could not use the media to find my daughter, because ultimately the public is what is going to get the results. I don’t care if I was media savvy, because my primary concern would be getting my daughter’s story out there anyway I can. Websites would be set up to detail every aspect of the case, as well as any tips that the media attention garners. Haleigh would be the primary focus, not the bit players that have hampered this case since day one. I would unite with the father’s family to pursue any and all avenues of getting my daughter home, instead of building an undeniable chasm that ultimately leads to a breakdown of communication. It should not be life as usual UNTIL Haleigh comes home. Everyone in all the families have moved on like Haleigh was just a blip on the radar. Sixteen months and the primary players have not cracked. It seems to me that LE might have missed something that could lead to a resolution. Some of Ron’s behavior cannot be explained. Misty and Tommy’s lies cannot be ignored. The Sheffield silence is suspicious as well. Some of their early statements early on are suspect too. I would not let LE dictate every aspect of this case. Their focus is the investigation. I AM MY DAUGHTER’S SPOKESPERSON. I would be willing to answer any and all questions pertaining to my life so the focus can move to finding my daughter. I would demand full cooperation for any and all family members (father included). No one lead a pristine life in this case. Just because Haleigh disappeared from Ron’s home on Misty’s watch does not mean that they are responsible. Let’s start with the theory that all the world is a suspect, and that includes the Sheffields as well. Remember Amber DuBois was considered a runaway by LE early on–which was a crucial mistake. Now we know that she was the victim of a sexual predator, and ultimately the reasoning that Amber ran away led to the death of another young woman. LE was wrong, pure and simple, and I think they are wrong about this case too. No one should be ruled out–the Sheffields and the sexual predators need a second look–and an unbiased one at that. JMO
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imho no time did i ever see??
actually she had to move the HBC because she couldn’t drive to it everyday tho her daughter went missing from there.hmmmmmmmmmmm
CathyJo
I meant she is beleiving Misty didnt do anything- thinks ron did and she is his cousin.
D MO said,
in May 26th, 2010 at 1:28 pm
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Good point D MO.! And you unwittingly used an interesting analogy .I love to do panning, as well as try and locate nuggets, meteorites and relics as a past time.
Talk to you later, need to go. Nice talking with you.
Cummings: I just got home from work. My 5-year-old daughter is gone. I need someone to be here now. I’m telling you, if I find whoever has my daughter before you all do, I’m killing him. I don’t care. I’ll spend the rest of my life in prison. Operator: It’s OK, sir. We got them on the way.
When police arrived at 202 Green Lane in the River Villa mobile home community in the Hermit’s Cove area of Satsuma, they were greeted by a frantic Ronald Cummings. When deputies were finally able to calm him down, he explained that he had last seen his daughter at about >>>>10:00 p.m. Monday night before he left for work. He said he is employed by PDM Bridge, a company in nearby Palatka that builds steel girders for bridges. When he had returned home, at about 3:45 a.m., his girlfriend had told him that his daughter was missing.
According to Misty Croslin, she had been alone in the house with Haleigh and the child’s 3-year-old brother, Ronald Jr. Croslin said that when she had fallen asleep, Haleigh was next to her in the bed; however, when she later woke up to go to the bathroom—minutes before Cummings arrived home from work—she discovered that Haleigh was missing. Croslin also stated she observed that a rear door to the trailer was ajar and that a brick had been used to prop it open. Croslin further said that she observed a blanket and sheets scattered on the wooden ramp leading from the door.
“She’s afraid of the dark,” Cummings told First Coast News. “She didn’t leave my house. Somebody came in my back door and stole my child while I was at work.”
Within the hour, the Florida Department of Law Enforcement responded by activating its Child Abduction Regional Team, and over 130 officers from at least 10 county, state, and federal law enforcement agencies were on the scene to search for Haleigh. Helicopters, boats, divers, bloodhounds, ATV riders, and ground searchers conducted grid searches of the vast wooded area surrounding the trailer court.
A team of officers set up a roadblock on the only road out of the neighborhood and searched every vehicle that left the community, while another team conducted consensual searches of nearly 100 homes in the area.
Following the initial search of the area, a statewide Amber Alert was issued for Haleigh at about 9:30 a.m.Tuesday.
“The girlfriend and the father are cooperating with police,” Special Agent Steve Donaway of the Florida Dept of Law Enforcement said at an afternoon news conference. “It could be an abduction. We’re looking at it from all angles.”
Haleigh’s mother, 23-year-old Crystal Sheffield, lives in Baker County, Georgia. According to Sheffield’s mother, Marie Griffis, her daughter and Cummings split up about three years ago. She said that they had not been fighting and that Haleigh and Ronald would visit with the child’s mother every other weekend.
Tuesday’s search continued into the night, but investigators found no sign of Haleigh.
On Wednesday morning, the FBI dispatched 16 federal agents to assist local authorities. They are trying to rule out roughly 44 sex offenders who live within a 5-mile radius of the Cummings home.
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I hope this is a mistake of rons werk time!
I didn’t no AS was a nurse,If I’am to believe
that Haleigh did die that night I would think
she was given something to make her go to sleep.
Has the dvd conversation between Lindsy and Tommy that sillygirl was talking about (the April 8th one) been released yet? That’s the one I have been really wanting to hear for a few days now.
right Kristie!
misty not ahving her attorney their is her decision. Does anyone think she wasn’t mirandized at the time of video taped drug busts.
She wanted to talk. She didn’t have to.
Does that make her guilty or innocent, no.
cj nooooooooooooooooooooooooo,thats what we’re waiting for,i know i am anyhoo….lol suckers don’t work,already tried a big red one,lol
as isn’t a nurse,some said she had one with her??
which i get the impression AS has taken care of alot of kids so i’d say she’s qualified,lol like any mother but no certificate,lol no offense to nurses’!!!!!!!!!!!! just humor
Croslin further said that she observed a blanket and sheets scattered on the wooden ramp leading from the door.
huh?????????
Hey guys anything new today. I am so busy
with clean up. FYI after listening to Hank and Misty’s conversation and Hank said he didn’t
want anymore help I didn’t go to Putnam.
However, he did say to send Misty money so I am going to get a Money Order and do just that.
I am not a pro or con either way but at least
God will know I had good intentions and then I
guess a jury can decide the rest. I ask my kids
about stopping in at The Cheyenne when they ride their Harley’s. They have not. I don’t think they drink and ride their bikes. Thank Goodness.
and Ronald would visit with the child’s mother every other weekend.
WTH?????????????
hmmmmm that article was from discovery .com
Thats very nice Coop!!
Cathyjo where do you get your energy. I just
can’t keep up with you girl. Have you started
that book yet. You know I am not letting up
until you do.
Cathyjo where do you get your energy. I just
can’t keep up with you girl. Have you started
that book yet. You know I am not letting up
until you do.
Cathyjo where do you get your energy. I just
can’t keep up with you girl. Have you started
that book yet. You know I am not letting up
until you do.
Cricket said,in May 26th, 2010 at 1:28 pm CathyJo,
It was a picture that AH. put out there but why in GODS name didn’t they stop him. If AH did it
that’s pretty lo,But I think Kim P had a hand in it. whoever photo-shopped it sure did a P P job of it Crystal supposed are is a man’s arm.
and there are allot of other things that look
completely ignorant.
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for sure!!!!! lol
as a matter of fact right now,I’d say Mistys the only one in the entire bunch out of both sides whose innocent!
Why did the above post replicate itself 3 times
If I am not mistken the dogs hit on the dumpster.
I am so glad yu think i have energy,maybe it’ll sink in to me when i need it,lol
i just sit on my butt and use 1 finger,lol
Cathyjo going to run your scared monkey post
be right back
coop,it happens alot to us! a glitch somewhere!lol
or Ronfans Ghost’s.lol
yes okie they did! once i think,wasn’t that 2 weeks later?
didn’t they track Haleigh to water that night tho?
Hank doesn’t want help,my goodness!
You can’t blame Crystal for not having more photos of Haleigh. I have a step son. He isn’t always with us, so he is not in all of the pics. Simple reasoning really.
I know if I only had my children with me every other week I sure would be taking tons of pics of them. MG is the grandma why wasn’t she taking tons of pics. Sure seems that TN, AS, and Ron took tons of pics. He77 even Connie had more pics of the children then Crystal and Marie had.
How does it work when you send money to a jailed person? Do you call the jail and give a credit card number or do you have to send a check or money order or in person. Never done that myself.
Haleigh Cummings – Caylee Anthony – Some Reflections
Posted on February 27th, 2010
by Simon Barrett in Op-ed, crime
Read 46 times.
It has been an interesting journey of discovery. The past 18 months have been eye opening to say the least. Both the Haleigh Cummings and Caylee Anthony stories have revealed to me just what a strange world we live in.
It was several months ago that I had a long conversation with TJ Hart, he was at his wits end. In his 10 years as a well respected reporter in Gainsville, Florida, Haleigh Cummings was the latest in a long stream of high profile cases that he has covered in depth. It was an emotional conversation, TJ is a grandfather, and this discussion was not about winning journalistic acclaim, it was about the state of our modern society.
There are actually many parallels between the Haleigh Cummings and Caylee Anthony cases. So many that I find it disturbing. Actually sources close to the case have made the same comments.
What really disturbs me is the frequency of these cases. Child exploitation and abduction has reached epidemic proportions. I was talking to a friend of mine Robert Siciliano the other day. He is a well known and well respected expert on the subject of personal security. In his book The Safety Minute :01 he talks about children, 50,000 go missing each year. This statistic is well used, most of the 50,000 are found, most have been abducted by family members. A much more disturbing statistic is that 1 in 4 children have been ‘inappropriately touched’. I asked Robert where he got this data from, look for yourself Here and Here.
I am not trying to say that either Haleigh Cummings or Caylee Anthony were in any way subject to any form of sexual abuse, merely that the numbers are so shocking that it numbs my mind.
What I do see in the Haleigh Cummings and Caylee Anthony case is abuse. Abuse by dereliction of parental care. Both cases scream out at me, little children begging for help. Both cases have garnered major news coverage, and both cases have revealed a truly ugly world that these young children were in. I would not put Casey Anthony in charge of taking the garbage out, never mind caring for a two year old child! Casey’s mother and father have been playing ‘poor mouth’ since the event, yet they have apparently cashed in, it has been widely reported that they received $100,000 from a large media outlet, yet still face foreclosure. Mom and dad George and Cindy tell us that because of the press coverage neither can find a job!
Of course this is rubbish!
Over on the Haleigh Cummings case we have a cast of characters that quite honestly should not be allowed to keep a goldfish never mind children. It is simple to explain in one word ‘DRUGS’. Drugs are everywhere you look when you talk about Haleigh Cummings. Misty Croslin and her brother Tommy, both are behind bars for Drugs. Ronald Cummings, behind bars for drugs. Bio mother of Haleigh Cummings, failed a drug test recently, and from what I can tell has a long history of enjoying recreational pharmaceuticals.
It is time to put an end to these awful situations. There has to be something that as a society we can do. But what?
Ronald’s work hours that night were 4pm to 3am. Law officers and officials at PDM both state that Ronald was present and accounted for that night. Telephone records and cell phone pings lend strong support to those statements by law enforcement and PDM.
http://www.bloggernews.net/122108
Later in the conversation, I asked Miller to verify Ronald Cumming’s timeline. Miller stated that Ronald told him and Orlando attorney Mark Nejame that he did have an argument with Misty on the telephone while he was at work at PDM. I asked Miller if Ron worked from about 4pm to 3am and he responded that Ron’s time card is verified and that he had punched in and out as usual.
Miller also stated that Ron’s timeline is also supported by the fact that he was seen on a convenience store surveillance video just after 3am buying beer, cigarettes and peanuts.
http://www.bloggernews.net/122122
photos to me are moments we can’t describe to the ones we love and left behind when they’re no longer with us!
I could not show my grandson age 3 when his papa passed just how big his papas smile was the first time he held him!
Licia Hutt Sharron, all the things we thought we knew apparently aren’t with the shifts (reports coming out that is). Ron’s own lawyer changed the time line, I doubt he would lie, however he points out Ron punched in at 5. Lot of unanswered questions still on the actual shift etc.
http://et-ee.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=69167655089&topic=56955#
Maureen Schnare Ron says he got her off the bus, drove her home, kissed her bye, except the problem is, he didn’t just leave at 3 and go to work, he made it there at around 4:30 says his lawyer———-
http://et-ee.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=69167655089&topic=56955#
I’ve never really bought into the Crystal Sheffield family being the guilty party, but here is an interesting line of connections: Jennifer Sheffield Townsend, of Montana, myspace page has Crystal Sheffield and Marie Griffis, etc. Crystal’s myspace has Joshua, and Joshua has Jahkenneth who is from Sabanilla, San Jose, Costa Rico, but he visited Crescent City beach apparently according to his photos. Both Jennifer Sheffield Townsend and Jahkenneth have interestingly similar waterfall pictures. Just keeping an open mind about all the possibilities, but it’s probably ridiculous to even to post this. Whatever!
Um the site that yall were talking about with the pictures of lyndsay is not up anymore. I was wondering if anyone knew how I could maybe get a glimpse of some of them.
As was said here last week people have to want help and its amzing that hank doesn’t. Maybe he hasn’t had the right help in the past.
Can lead a horse to water but can’t make him drink.
Shockwave,none have escaped my thoughts,they had just as much opportunity and motive!
they are all gone KARRI,SORRY,LOL
I bet if someone were to hand him a paid for appointment for surgery hed take it.
Coop, maybe he just hadn’t the right help. Maybe you are the one. The guy hasn’t had much reason to trust the other folks I guess.
it surprises me tho,cause you’d think he’d accept if its offered to HIM?
bbasap
the early bird gets the worm jana,but the 2nd mouse gets the cheese,lol
jaba? sorry
Anyone can post on the space as long as they are allowed by the person. Thats why there are all kinds of people on the my spaces and facebooks, they may have sent well wishes and prayers.I know one on Crystals wanted to send her roses. It doesnt mean anything.jmo
Cathyjo,
Why r they gone? Did her lawyer make them take the pictures down or what? Do we even know? were they that bad!?
true tobias,bbsap and i know you’ll just hold your breatg,lmbo
they weren’t good but i think the owner may have removed them! lol bbsap k
All we really know about Hanks injuries is what he says, do we really know for sure he is that bad off? No we dont. Do we know he is up and around without a cane to every visit at the jail? Yes. Did he go to get on disability? yes and wasnt happy about waiting the 17 months it takes but everyone has to wait. If Timmy would have had car insurance it would have paid for his medical, didnt CHELSEA SAY SHE WAS FIGURING OUT THEIR INSURANCE THAT NIGHT? Either Chelsea is lying about the insurance or Hank is. jmo
Shockwave…You can’t blame Crystal for not having more photos of Haleigh. I have a step son. He isn’t always with us, so he is not in all of the pics. Simple reasoning really.
Haliegh is not her stepdaughter or whatever. She is someone she rarely gets to see. Seems that she would want pictures of them together when they get that time to spend. Just my thought.
I think folks with compassion for the fallen also realize they may be dealing with someone playing opposum in hanks case. Some have tried and its has not helped much.
It would be hard for me to help if I didn’t feel it was deserved.
WHERE IS HALIEGH???
Mental Illness most likely plays a huge part in these people’s lives. Please don’t forget that possibility.
It explains a lot of behaviors and actions.
OMG are we going to really decide guilt on who has pictures and who doesnt? Ron probably has them because AS took them and gave him copies. Why do you think TN brought that 8×10 with her that night? Because Ron didnt have any. jmo
Good Point Tobias!!
And saving your own butt is just as likely. I wish we had all the evidence LE does and take it all in total.
Do you mean Ron putting a gun in his mouth on several occassions with different people? I guess that is pretty mental. The denial and irresponcibility of most of these people is just over the top. The drug use and enabling is pretty bad too. What were they all thinking?
And I am talking about the ones who were the supposed grown ups. jmo
If we want to fit the story the way wee see it, anything will be used to make that case.
I can see the threatening suicide (ron) would work to make these girls think he loved them and not to leave him. It works better than threatening to shoot them. What young girl wouldnt think he loves me so much I cant leave him he will kill himself? It was to manipulate them plain and simple. jmo
I surrree do wish ma owner could keep his lies straight. Embarassing for a cutie like maself. First he ain’t pointin’ no finger at Joe when he innocent, now all o’ sudden Joe is crazy and a killa and blah blah blah, sure wish I couldn’t hear so good cuz that crap is bull.
and don’t think fo a second that Ron can’t get someone to punch his timecard FO’ him while he GONE from werk. that person wouldnt come fo’ward cuz they’d be in trouble, too. what’s it called? Fraud sumthin’ like that i hear.
Hey,. I might jus’ be this ‘tard’s ears an’ all, but i got mo’ brains than he does. Imma smarty i tell ya and too good to be sittin’ on this hallow a$$ dome fer sure. 😛
robin said,in May 26th, 2010 at 1:12 pm
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Yes, the mother of Carlie was a “recovering” addict who slipped off from time to time to binge….it was also indicated that she KNEW Mr. Smith from drug interactions…..so it is very possible this was not completely a stranger abduction.
I agree, without video this case could have ended very differently and the guilty party not caught. LE did focus on the step-father initially and did not issue an Amber Alert until it was too late. But unlike the Haleigh case, Carlie was abducted somewhere outside the home and LE had no “crime scene” to even focus on. In Haleigh’s case, they had a place to start and that was the home. Inconsistancies in stories and probably some evidence in the home told them this was not a stranger abduction. These two cases differ greating in that regard.
I did not mean to leave the Sheffields, or the Neeves or any of the others out as they ALL have had numerous drug issues. I was merely combatting the statements made by others that we should “go easy on Ron, Misty, Tommy, Hank, Lisa, etc”…or that they need “assistance” and not jail time.
I have spent the last two weeks re-reading old cases and comparing them to this case. In 95% of them there is drug use somehow related…whether it is within the home of the abducted child or by the abductor. What I noted was in the case of drugs being used within the home and around the children, most of the cases involved someone within that inner circle or acquaintance of the family being the perpetrator. When drugs were not used in the home or around the children, it was generally a stranger abduction. That was VERY telling to me.
The majority of the perpetrators HAVE drug and/or alcohol problems. More often than not the perpetrators commit the acts while under the influence. Most of the perps have records but nothing really violent as they have mostly been arrested for drug related issues whether that be possession, trafficking, manufacturing, drug paraphanalia, or burglary/robbery/forgery type charges for drug money. They repeatedly get a slap on the wrist, some probation, some rehab, a few days or months in jail and they repeat the same behaviors. Then seemingly out of the blue they molest/rape/murder a child….and 9 times out of 10 they are under the influence when they do it. It is ALL connected.
I would also like to again state for the record that I do NOT approve of Crystal, her family or their lifestyle. However, I continue to focus on those who were AT THAT MOMENT responsible for Haleigh. The ones who saw her last. The primary caregivers in this case which were Ron and Misty. That does not mean I excuse Crystal from her lack of parenting, her drug use and her selfish behavior. But I DO tend to believe what LE has stated that they do NOT believe this is a stranger abduction. I couple that with the ever-changing stories of Misty, Tommy and Ron’s strange behaviors and I smell a rat. I focus on Ron and Misty because Haleigh disappeared from their home….not Crystal’s home. I personally do not believe Crystal is involved so I do not comment on her as much. Does that mean I think she was a good mom? NO! Do I think she should have custody of Jr? NO! Do I despise her for not getting her act together for her children? YES! Should she have gotten her life together and gotten those kids out of Ron’s care? YES! But I do not believe she is involved in Haleigh’s disappearance….and I don’t believe LE thinks so either.
Sorry for yet another long post but my whole point of the prior posts about the Carlie case was the STRONG connection with drugs and violence against children. In almost EVERY case of child neglect, abuse, rape and murder there is a direct relation to drug/alcohol use and abuse. THAT was my point. And for those who think that Ron, Misty and Tommy should NOT receive stiff sentences and should instead be pampered, adored and rehabilitated I say “SCREW THAT”! They’ve had NUMEROUS chances to turn their lives around. I’m not willing to risk yet another child’s life in allowing these hoodlums to be out on the streets! They are where they belong!
Karri, the pics are still up at scared monkeys site
good points too Tobias,i did read that the guys insurance who did hit them’s insuranse lapsed 1 day prior to the accident,Hank i believe thought he had a 200k judgement against them? but the judge ruled different,i believe?
tobias said,in May 26th, 2010 at 2:52 pm I can see the threatening suicide (ron) would work to make these girls think he loved them and not to leave him. It works better than threatening to shoot them. What young girl wouldnt think he loves me so much I cant leave him he will kill himself? It was to manipulate them plain and simple. jmo
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Comprende’
puts the guilt on them!
tobias said,in May 26th, 2010 at 2:38 pm OMG are we going to really decide guilt on who has pictures and who doesnt? Ron probably has them because AS took them and gave him copies. Why do you think TN brought that 8×10 with her that night?
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Huh? I didn’t know that was the issue for the pix..lol
TN apparently brought one too,lol ya threw me!
just answered a?
are there more tapes coming today??
tommy’s ears,don’t start it again……….shewwwwwwwwwwwwwww rofl
I lay in bed last night thinking of tommy and his ears and i thought “omg wheres my ceiling”
Did I post something I shouldn’t have? It seems to have disappeared
Becky said,in May 26th, 2010 at 2:59 pm Karri, the pics are still up at scared monkeys site
oh was it a link Becky,sometimes they won’t post?
I mean the I Report…I could have sworn it was a here a few seconds ago
Thanks CathyJo…no …it was the actual report in it’s entirity
ronsfans ghost?????? took it??
Cathy, Are you fantasizing about those beautiful big ears? Wonder if its like big hands , big feet, and big ears? Lindsy must have liked him for some reason.. couldnt be for his honesty,lol jmo
JUst so I don’t get in trouble….what are we not allowed to post?
or his good looks tobias,we talked about them ears yesterday till it disturbed my vision….rofl
mmmm not much to get in trouble for less youre just mean,lol hunny if somebody could get in trouble for stuff that easy,i wouldn’t have lasted a day…rofl honest Becky,just ask round,lol
I think perhaps there is a bassett hound in the Croslin family tree….would explain the ears AND the droopy eyes! 😆
new news article in the gainesville sun.hank sr
it shouldn’t be funny Tobias,i mean i got a huge nose but it aint plastered on jail tapoes,Thank God! but its funny to me’lol
Perhaps even a toothless bassett hound! LMAO
Hank Croslin interview at Gainsville.com
Wednesday, May 26, 2010 at 2:17 p.m.
( page 1 of 4 )
PALATKA – Hank Croslin never dreamed he would find himself in the situation he is in now — broke, living in a shelter, two of his children in jail, he and his wife on probation.
Related Links:Ronald Cummings likely to agree to plea deal
Lawyer says Tommy Croslin is cooperating in Haleigh case
Haleigh case update: No human remains in St. Johns
Haleigh case now called a homicide
Another day of searching turns up no sign of Haleigh
More Stories
“It’s like something you see on TV, not in your own life,” Croslin said. “It’s a scary life.”
But Hank Croslin’s life is on TV. In fact, TV and other media have helped make Croslin and his family celebrities in an unscripted reality show — one that involves a missing 5-year-old girl, illicit drug sales, family feuds and other travails, played out on national television, in Internet blogs, newspapers and television news.
Long article posted today
toothless basset with floppy ears,awwwwwww now thats cute tho,rofl
I wonder when we will get to listen to that tape Sillygirl talked about? It sure is quiet from PCSD since that search, wonder when they are going to say anything about the evidence. It would be nice for them just to say it came back and it proves thats where she was or not.jmo
tho somebody in the family should donate the one toof they got let to fill tommys gap,might help the ears be more unnoticeable,OH FOR GODS SAKE LIKE THATS GONNA HELP ROFL
yea Tobias,I’m dying over here!
Psh i’m da reason why lindsay fell in luv wit ma owner in da first place. wha’chu sayin’? She used ta flap me back and forth…..back and forth…..back and forth….heck i got mo’ attention than numbn*t eva could. ya’ll know ya’ll luv me too. but i got a question:
i thought da nose is posed to grow when ma owner lies so why i keep growing instead. i mean i don’t mind but sooner or later im gonna hear one lie too many and just fly off this empty dome. then what will he do. i’m so taken fo’ granted i tell ya.
Super glue in a pinch lol
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=7740.120
this one has the bikini shot
well big ears,i was born wiff da big nose already,lol
but i went to school wiff a boy named Big ear gibson,tho in ky its pronounced Big Yur Gibson!
oh good greif…I am so sorry6 LOL
sotrue said,in May 26th, 2010 at 3:31 pm new news article in the gainesville sun.hank sr
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thank you
he needs him a big ole gold toof right in the front!
why does it feel like new news is old news still,no offence,i like the new articles,sometimes its a different font and all but dangit!
When TomME gets to prison some big burly cellmate might be throwing TomME to his knees and using those big ole’ ears of his as handle bars! 😯
JenM – are you kidding me? Haleigh is not Crystal’s stepdaughter?! I know Haleigh is Crystal’s daughter, but in a similar way Crystal does not have Haleigh all the time. Just like me and my stepson’s dad do not have him all the time. Maybe if I had said my husband does not have his son all the time, so therefore he is not in all of the photos you would not be stating the obvious. Is that better? Do you see the similarity now?
Celeb rehab. Still an option.
HAHAHAHAHAH. Nice JB…
JB said,in May 26th, 2010 at 3:47 pm When TomME gets to prison some big burly cellmate might be throwing TomME to his knees and using those big ole’ ears of his as handle bars!
Seriously JB!
JB–Point well taken and very well made as always. I do not believe for a minute that Ron, Misty, nor Tommy should be pampered. All of their behavior was reprehensible, nor should it be excused. Ron and Tommy has had several chances and have yet to be change their bad behavior. They will pay for their drug charges, as well as they should. But I have yet to see the evidence that points to a homocide, much less evidence that points away from a stranger abduction/sexual predator. The only evidence (if you can call it that) is the tapes and DVDs that are released by LE of the Croslins/Cummings trainwreck of poor/pitiful me lives and the failed LDTs. Drug addicts children get taken too. Sexual predators are not discriminatory. Rich, poor, black, and white children are taken by sick, twisted individuals. They take them in the daylight in the front yard of their homes and they take them from the safety of their beds in the cover of darkness. There were way too many suspicious people around this child. They were drug addicts, thieves, dealers, and sexual predators surrounding Haleigh–and any one of them could be guilty. I believe LE started with Misty and Ron and their respective families, but I believe they never moved beyond that. Its tragic that this child’s case has suffered because of the many sideshows that has distracted us from the primary focus–finding Haleigh. I do not begin to know what happened to Haleigh or who is responsible, but I do believe LE showed their hand by releasing these tapes. These tapes do not do anything but muddy the waters and scream witchhunt to me. Frankly I do not care who slept with who or what drugs they abuse. All of this is inconsequential to me. It does nothing to find Haleigh, nor does it answer questions to what happened that fateful night in February where a beautiful girl has disappeared without a trace. They only way these questions are answered is if all avenues are exhausted and all bases are covered. And in my honest opinion this has not happened. Not even close! JMO
Very well put and great post as alway’s Robin!
“JB said, in May 26th, 2010 at 3:47 pm
When TomME gets to prison some big burly cellmate might be throwing TomME to his knees and using those big ole’ ears of his as handle bars!”
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!! Sumbody pleaseeeeeeeeee helpppp meeeee! I ain’t do nuthin’!!
Shockwave said,in May 26th, 2010 at 3:47 pm JenM – are you kidding me? Haleigh is not Crystal’s stepdaughter?! I know Haleigh is Crystal’s daughter, but in a similar way Crystal does not have Haleigh all the time. Just like me and my stepson’s dad do not have him all the time. Maybe if I had said my husband does not have his son all the time, so therefore he is not in all of the photos you would not be stating the obvious. Is that better? Do you see the similarity now?
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I’m confused. As Jen pointed out, Crystal is Haleigh’s mother, not stepmother. If she had full time custody of Haleigh, then I can understand why she wouldn’t have many pics. But given she rarely saw her, I would expect her to have lots of pics, if she cared about her the way she claims she does.
It stands to reason ron,misty anybodyyyyyyyyy involved in the truth and hasn’t come forward should pay for what they’ve done!!!!!!!!!!!
But i was an addict and still would not do what they’ve done since Haleigh went “missing”
so it ties it all together for me now and theres not one i would be shocked about being involved including allllllll Haleighs family.but imo now Misty is probably the most innocent as far as knowing what really happened to Haleigh! I don’t think she knows,how i dunno but imo she don’t!
but they’ve all proved why we are to be so skeptical!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
imo Misty is lying about something but only to protect somebody which still ain’t right i know but just sayin……….jmvooo!
Tommy’s ears…..please get behind me,i cannot see others posts! Thank you!
battered women’s syndrome is bad enough but imagine battered women’s tennage babysitter syndrome?
handle bars or stirrups!
tobias said,in May 26th, 2010 at 3:33 pm I wonder when we will get to listen to that tape Sillygirl talked about? It sure is quiet from PCSD since that search, wonder when they are going to say anything about the evidence. It would be nice for them just to say it came back and it proves thats where she was or not.jmo
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LE is probably too embarrassed to say anything publicly. They are apparently incapable of solving this crime and keep hoping a junkie or teen will solve it for them. It’s time for new LE to be brought in. Haleigh deserves to be found and the appropriate people need to face justice over her disappearance.
A guy walks into work, and both of his ears are all bandaged up. The boss says, “What happened to your ears?”
He says, “Yesterday I was ironing a shirt when the phone rang and shhh! I accidentally answered the iron.”
The boss says, “Well, that explains one ear, but what happened to your other ear?”
He says, “Well, geez, I had to call the doctor!”
LE is probably too embarrassed to say anything publicly. They are apparently incapable of solving this crime and keep hoping a junkie or teen will solve it for them.
It’s time for new LE to be brought in. Haleigh deserves to be found and the appropriate people need to face justice over her disappearance.
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Hate to agree but i agree!!!!!!!!!! shame we have to think that way!
I think they are all stuck because any evidence they could use has been gotten rid of too good. Misty may not have killed Haleigh but she knows who did otherwise she would have no inconsistancies in her statements or failed all the polys. Something was found there that proves Misty is lying about her statement of events that happened that night.jmo bbl
Hi to everyone here…
Robin,what a great post it is all that i have been feeling to say while trying to catchup and trying to understand this case…
I live in ireland and have also followed little Maddie mcCann,from a well respected family,just gone..someone just snatched that baby from her bed…it does happen..and from going and reading some recent reports i am beginning to think that Misty didnt harm Haleigh,she is being used..jmo
Hank blaming people for the mess this has become yet he got a car and lisa bailed out by LP. Several people have sent him and Lisa money, I think they have all stopped sending funds and he is now stuck. He didnt mention the unemployment checks he gets. jmo
http://www.gainesville.com/article/20100526/NEWS/100529593?p=1&tc=pg
newspaper article with hank talking today
Maybe Hank needs to look at Tommy and Misty since they are the ones who put him in the mess he is in. Also all the crimes he and Lisa committed. If they had not done those things they would be free to leave Florida. jmo
if i were trying to get money i guess i’d act like i didn’t want it either,as a pity plea? you catch more flies with honey than vinegar….but i don’t like seeing them bashed because of what happened to Haleigh,that was their past?? but if they don’t try to do better after this.then no i wouldn’t feel bad for them!
CathyJo63 said,in May 26th, 2010 at 4:05 pm Tommy’s ears…..please get behind me,i cannot see others posts! Thank you!
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OMG Tommy’s.i hope you knew i was joking,lol
anybody have an idea of when the tapes are coming?
Misty, Misty what do you know? Now we have a missing kid and one kids life is screwed up forever. (she was 17yrs old) . Ronnie Cummings
needs to go to jail weather or not he is involved with Haleigh. She was almost as close
to Haleigh’s age as she was Haleigh’s dad age.
Something is not right. There is a missing player here. Neither two of these are smart
enough to stay quite this long.
Jeff Hardy and the boy’s are getting ready to move again.
i remember back after ron went to jail,cs had posted a pic of her as a msg to ronald and it was of herself sticking her tongue out at him??
I always thought tho that that was childish,almost like a kid when they get one on ya?? they stick out their tongue,made me more curious then about the Sheff’s side!
Hank better go to Colorado to family cause Michigan is worse off with jobs than Florida. He is no more screwed than a lot of people who are laid off and on unemployment, he just has fines to pay off which are his and lisas fault.
Misty and Tommy have put him in the spot light because of the drug dealing and involvement in the Haleigh case. He really needs to take it out on them and not the public. jmo
does anybody know the address of where i could send Misty a letter too??
robin said,in May 26th, 2010 at 3:54 pm
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I respect your post and your opinion. I do have to believe LE is smarter than most are giving them credit for. I DO believe they have something or possibly MANY things that have indicated to them this is a homicide. Until an arrest is made we will not be privy to ANY of the information in regard to their investigation. And as much as I want to know what they have and what they know, they owe me nothing and to share ANY information would compromise their investigation. So many seem to believe that LE is misguided and has mishandled this case because they HAVEN’T disclosed their evidence which has lead them to the conclusions they have. Yet if they shared that information they would compromise the case and could possibly cost Haleigh the justice she deserves. Whether I like it or not, they are doing the right thing by keeping quiet and not sharing what they know. That is the BEST chance they have of getting a conviction.
We HAVE to trust that they know what they are doing and that they are on the right track. Who else DO we trust if not LE? Ron? Tommy? Misty? We’ve seen them twist and turn in the wind and change their stories to suit their mood. To my knowledge LE has not lied about anything. To my knowledge they have not bungled this case. They’ve been dealt a very difficult case with people who have done nothing but throw roadblocks in their path. In a NORMAL situation the family is VERY forthcoming with information and helpful to the investigation. We KNOW that hasn’t been the case with this bunch. They’ve made a difficult job near impossible. I do not envy what LE has had to endure with this case. I feel confident they know a great deal about who is guilty but have to remain silent to build their case. They have to endure the constant criticism, verbal attacks and complaints on this case and say nothing for fear of jeopardizing the investigation.
I do believe someday, in the not so distant future, they WILL arrest the guilty party and justice will be served. We just have to be patient and allow the process to work.
As far as considering all possible scenarios such as maternal abductions, stranger abductions, RSO abductions, alien abductions (lol),….I’ve considered them all. I’ve scrutinized any information I could obtain. I’ve poured over jailhouse tapes, interviews, statements and blogger opinions. IMVHO, the person(s) guilty in Haleigh’s disappearance are already behind bars. Do I know this for a fact? No. But it is what I believe. Not because I have tunnel vision….but because all other reasonable possibilities based on what we know have been ruled out, in my mind at least. Will I be proven wrong? Who knows….but based on not only my opinion but statistics and research, I’d say I have a VERY good chance of being spot on in my opinion.
Again, I do respect your opinion as well and hope you don’t take my posts as argumentative or antagonistic in any way. I’m truly enjoying our dialogue and do not want it to seem confrontational as that is NOT how it is intended. 😀
CathyJo,
I’ve never seen Croslin said there were bloody
sheets on the ramp.
There is a staffmark here and i wonder if theres such a thing in Fl??
they get you a job according to your experience and you don’t have to do any legwork except the 1st application with them?
they find jobs suitable and they get a couple cents on the hour that you make??
it didn’t say bloody,just a sheet and blanket i think?
Why is it in one breath Hank says he hates the media, is hounded by them, wants nothing to do with them….and in the next offers up an interview….BECAUSE HE NEEDS SOMETHING. In EVERY interview this man gives he spells it out what he wants/needs. In this case…he says EXACTLY how much he has in fines and that he and Lisa want to move but can’t afford the $2500 fines…HINT, HINT!
This man makes me want to PUKE!
Hank is getting unemployment right now and extensions if he got a job it would stop the unemployment. Temp jobs can really screw up unemployment, when the temp job stops he would have to reapply for unemployment and wait the 2-4 weeks for a check. He needs to just hold tight and pay off the fines, and then leave Florida to were ever his other family can give him housing until he finds a job. jmo
Cricket:
According to Misty Croslin, she had been alone in the house with Haleigh and the child’s 3-year-old brother, Ronald Jr. Croslin said that when she had fallen asleep, Haleigh was next to her in the bed; however, when she later woke up to go to the bathroom—minutes before Cummings arrived home from work—she discovered that Haleigh was missing. Croslin also stated she observed that a rear door to the trailer was ajar and that a brick had been used to prop it open. Croslin further said that she observed a blanket and sheets scattered on the wooden ramp leading from the door.
JenM- I know what you meant about the pictures.:)
BTW- These cell phones now days are great, come with cameras. Now people who wouldn’t be caught w/o a phone can also take pictures of everyone!
I never have made a distinction between my and my step kids. They’re all my kids and their Mom feels the same about mine. Me and their Mom work together for all the childrens sake. Of course it takes adults to do that. And respect for the other parent. I really treasure her as well.
More children to love. Don’t understand people who don’t take care of children.
that was from discovery .com Cricket??
The more tapes we see the more of these folks wrong decisions stick out.
Tobias – you’ve nailed it in all your posts about Hank Sr. The man takes NO responsibility for his actions or the mess he is in. It is the media’s fault. It is the public’s fault. It is LE being mean. Life was great (cough cough) until “Haleigh happened”…so I guess it is Haleigh’s fault too! This man does NOT want to meet me! That much I DO know! LOL The only time these people talk is to try to get something out of the deal….a car, a phone, minutes for the phone, a place to live….but you don’t see him begging for a job….just handouts! UGH! GRRRR! 👿
WHY would Ronald and/or TN want to make Haleigh disappear? To me there’s no valid reason behind that. Ronald already had custody of her. Or do people mean Haleigh was accidentally dead and Ronald/TN conspired to get rid of the body?
CathyJo,
I’m sorry I thought one of your posts said something about
bloody blankets or sheets were on the ramp
at the MH.
I did some searches everything that had bloody
I read but they didn’t say anything about that.
hmmmmmmm I know this is gonna sound crazy but what don’t in this case!
HOLLARS: … clean the house up while he disposed of Haleigh.
TOMMY CROSLIN: That`s (EXPLETIVE DELETED).
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The dawn liquid tommy had and the 2 scouring pads le found in tommys house,wonder if it was used to clean up a scene seeing as how Misty apparently had no soap?
even ron told tim miller there wasn’t any soap!!
they could get prints from that stuff right?
“CathyJo63 said, in May 26th, 2010 at 4:05 pm
Tommy’s ears…..please get behind me,i cannot see others posts! Thank you!”
ROFLMAO
lol Tommy’s!!! true!
CathyJo63 said,in May 26th, 2010 at 4:43 pm Cricket:
According to Misty Croslin, she had been alone in the house with Haleigh and the child’s 3-year-old brother, Ronald Jr. Croslin said that when she had fallen asleep, Haleigh was next to her in the bed; however, when she later woke up to go to the bathroom—minutes before Cummings arrived home from work—she discovered that Haleigh was missing. Croslin also stated she observed that a rear door to the trailer was ajar and that a brick had been used to prop it open. Croslin further said that she observed a blanket and sheets scattered on the wooden ramp leading from the door.
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sorry i didn’t say bloody,just a blanket and sheet? lol
What would you tell misty, CJ?
Tobias,I wonder too but i have thought also,he was up for truancy wasn’t he,and he worked at PDM because the dcs told him too get a job,didn’t they? maybe he figured he’d do something like that b/c he was in fear of losing her when we all know he bragged alot about how much of a better parent he was,remember the cobra tapes and gators?
JB–I enjoy your posts as well. You are so articulate with your opinions and I never find them argumentative at all. I value them and you always give me something to think about–several things actually. I envy your blind faith in LE, because most of the time they are right. I do not envy their job either because simply put, this case is a mess. I also think LE has some hand in this mess. They released these tapes of irrelevant material that put the focus solely on these drug addicted trainwrecks. I do not for one minute want to be subjected day and night to the ruination of their lives by media that is only interested in ratings. For all the Carla Brucia cases in this world, there are several that have went unsolved because of LE’s focus on the wrong person or family member. The Dowalibys and Aisenbergs come to mind. In my own honest opinion, I think another girl will fall victim to the person responsible, and then and only then, will we find the answers (like the Chelsea King-Amber Dubois cases). I strongly believe that a sexual predator is responsible for this disappearance and Haleigh (sad to say) will be his plea bargain to get out of the ultimate punishment–the death penalty. I also entertain the Sheffield theory since their behavior and statements seems so suspect in certain instances. Whomever is responsible, be it the ones in jail, Sheffields, or a sexual predator, they deserve the worst punishment possible. I do believe we all can agree on that! JMO.
some people like casey anthony will do that not to lose?? to someone else…….jmo
jaba said,in May 26th, 2010 at 5:14 pm What would you tell misty, CJ?
me CJ or the other cj? lol
Hank doesnt want to help LE prosecute the guy who took his car because if he did who knows what the guy would say about why he took the car. They will releae the guy if Hank doesnt file charges. I also caught the fact he doesnt have the title yet on the car so he sure cant sell it without that. lol Bet if he had it the fines would be paid and he would be gone already. Also you dont hear Timmy telling him to come up to Mass. jmo
i wonder too if the a/c guy is talent?
if you meant me Jaba,
I’d tell her exactly how i see it and i am not God,but i think i might possibly be able to get through to her,dunno why but i do!!
I see you wanted to send misty a letter.
Cj63
Yes,I have made up my mind,I am going too,if the girls in jail have managed to show her how ron used her,well i rest my case? lol
Hi all, Great posts everyone , very thought provoking
I completly agree with the fact that LE MUST have evidence that we don;t know about yet, After the river search they began calling the HaLeigh case a homicide, they must have evidence that made them make that distinction,I don’t think that they found anything definite like Dna or anything like that on the items from the River.
CathyJo63 said,
in May 26th, 2010 at 5:21 pm
if you meant me Jaba,
I’d tell her exactly how i see it and i am not God,but i think i might possibly be able to get through to her,dunno why but i do!!
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Maybe you ought to consider going around locally and doing the same thing CathyJO … might be your calling.
CathyJo- I think its a great idea to write Misty a letter, you have a wonderful way with your words, and what could it hurt , I would hate to live in a world in which we didn’t reach out and try to help each other
CathyJo ,I guess I’m looking for something that police found to help their investigation
I new I never heard that but there’s alot of things that I get from this forum that I never
heard happen this the most inform able forum I’ve been on.
It seems that I did hear that Cobra and that Regan guy found a bloody sheet on the side of
road.
Or is that one of my thoughts that didn’t happen.
Homespain,I tell ya,it’s on my heart now and i won’t rest till i try!
I am going to write her and atleast try to convince her to put a stop to all this,her parents need it too,they can’t get past all this until she stops it by telling what she knows!so they including her can accept the outcome so they know what to do next,the way it is now its only lingering things and getting harder by the day and i am not family and it’s killing me!
Thank You Homespain for believeing i can change something or atleast help to change someones life!
I gotta try!!
Homespain,I tell ya,it’s on my heart now and i won’t rest till i try!
I am going to write her and atleast try to convince her to put a stop to all this,her parents need it too,they can’t get past all this until she stops it by telling what she knows!so they including her can accept the outcome so they know what to do next,the way it is now its only lingering things and getting harder by the day and i am not family and it’s killing me!
Thank You Homespain for believeing i can change something or atleast help to change someones life!
I gotta try!!
a letter is so impersonal for that but no other way!
i dont think misty trust men period.i dont think she trust her lawyer at all and the comments he makes about her is nuts.i think about casey anthony and all those probono atty some lady needs to take her case.let her no she might have a life out there if shed tell the truth on whats real.
yes cricket,that did happen,i stay confused myself though with the facts!
SoTrue……thats So True!!!!!!!!!! lol
I, 2nd that CathyJo you have way about you.
It wouldn’t hurt anything.
I think she’s very submissive to authority and men!!!!!!!!!!
it’s what i see!!!!!!
Thank You Cricket,
That means so much!
and no i don’t know how it could hurt?? look what a mess anyway!
After I mail it I’ll let yall read it but i wouldn’t feel right to until she read it first considering the situation and her ,ya know!!!!!!!
the last thing she need’s is betrayal again!
CathyJo63 said,
in May 26th, 2010 at 5:36 pm
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Why not? i don’t see a down side. I’m sure you could reach her several ways. One might me to reach her through her lawyer. You could find where he works on-line.
Or you might call the jail where she’s at and request the information from them so you can write her. All that info is available on-line.
Or even call. Got to thinking on this further..
You know anything you and she communicate about could end up public. You might get called as a witness for the prosecution.:)
Well either way, if you know what you are getting into and feel it’s right go for it.!
Let us know when you do and if she writes back. That would becool.
I would Jaba!!!!!!! you know i would!
Homespain,thank you for your concern!
Theres nothing i have to say that I’d care if anyone read as long as she knew it too…I won’t betray her for nothing,I just want a chance!
Though I hadn’t thought of her lawyer,He probably would go berserk if i tried to convince her to tell the truth..hmmmmm
CathyJo- your written words here at BNN changes peoples thoughts and lives everyday, I believe writing to Misty is a perfect idea, with your heart and story you would be amazed at what one person could do.
by calling though i’d have only a few minutes right?
I wonder about Timmy I no he works but how in the World doe’s he get the money to help
HSr LC. TC.and Misty. he’s got wife and kids to take care of, 3 kids right?
Thank You very much Chakra,Thats a huge compliment and I agree,one person can change things……it happens all the time but we just rarely hear it!
but if i try i know i’ll feel better!
Even if it’s not me though,maybe one other person can,ya know!
I think a letter would be more effective than a call
maybe but i don’t wanna be mid sentence and hear a dialtone,lol
Chakra7,
With a letter she could read it over and over.
Phone calls you seem to forget what was said.
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
call me crazy but i wish they were allowed tapes too,I’d speak it to her,lol
I’d forget who wrote it Chakra,lmbo a week later I’d be like,o wow wonder who convinced her!
CathyJo,
You have alot of back-up here.
CathyJo – yes , I think if things like that come to you and you feel passionatly about them you should act on them
inmates cannot receive calls,
only call out
Thank You Cricket,thats very nice to hear and I ain’t braggin’ but i know i do,cause we all are that way here……….we do care about the others!!!!!!
and we know why we came here and why we’re still here!
right,lol OJ would’ve already called his woman!
Chakra,Thats what i am saying,today of all days i have a ton of weight on my chest,why today?
LOL LOL CathyJo – we will remind you lol
ya, a voice on tape would be cool , you could get your whole message across but I don’t think they have players
your my woman cathy..
you just don’t know it yet 😈
The lawyer wouldn’t no unless she told him.
OJ –
have you already tried to call Misty ???? LOL
awww I can see why OJ if thats your pic beside of your comment!!! Hold me back somebody,lol
Right Chakra,i wishhhhhh they could have players!
shoot Chakra,I ain’t got good sence…lordy bee!
never seen a cute devil,lol but those yall use are toooo cute!
chakra7 said,in May 26th, 2010 at 6:10 pm OJ –
have you already tried to call Misty ???? LOL
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I thought about warning her that undercovers were trying to get near her but I didn’t want to be recorded, I wish now I had called.
bbs daughters here
Yeah, we wouldn’t want her to say anything to a snitch that might help. 😉
Besides a letter is something she can hold onto and re- read over and over. You can go from there.
OJ – you should of , then we would be listening to you on here but seriously I think Grandmaw warned Ronald of that remember?
Crickit and Homepspain- Good points, she could re-read it and hold on to it, that to me would be more effective , comeing from someone she doesn’t know, because to be effective I think Cathy has to establish a repore, it might take several letters
When did Misty say she saw sheets out on the ramp? The only thing I heard about the bedding on the ramp was in a LE presser where it was said the dog handlers drug bedding out to the ramp.
chakra7 said,
in May 26th, 2010 at 6:33 pm
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Can’t blame her for not trusting people anymore.
One doesn’t have to have the end goal of just convincing her to do the things she ought to do. One can just be a real friend who doesn’t betray her.
That may mean not discussing certain things, for her own sake for now as well. The lawyer may have a reason she shouldn’t discuss things. After all it’s gotten her in a heap of trouble so far.
aye, unless those timecards be attached to Ron like I be to tommy, then ya can’t prove that it was actually Ron who punched his own timecard. I’m tellin’ ya, somethin’ sounds fishy (don’t ask cuz only ears know how they sound, k?) ta me about that whole jobby job bizness. Put on yo’ thinkin’ caps and open ya ears to ma wisdom and picture it. If he really wanted to leave the j.o.b without bein’ noticed, all he had ta do was find a homey he works with who he could trust to punch his card, keep his cell phone at werk until returns (explains the pings showing he at werk the whole time) go out and do his lil deed, whatever that was and sneak back ta werk without any of the head honchos noticin’. yeah i heard about the stoopid surveillance, but unless that had him on camera the whole shift, i ain’t buying it not even wiff tommy’s commissary moolah, if any be left.
Homespain- yes I agree, someone just being there for Misty and not wanting anything from her is enough
Nancy Grace tonight is on HaLeigh
Croslin tapes on ngrace tonight
Hi all, just stopping by for a mintue. Got stuff to do before the family gets here this week.
Just a head’s up, Art Harris is on NG with his bombshell, Lol, they are just now getting the tapes we’ve already listened to. They ard just talking about the letter too.
TommyEars,
wouldn’t cell phone only ping if he had the phone on.
Someone earlier said it was Misty fault that she
and it was her that made that decsion
She could be thinking she had nothing hide
so why not do LDT,voice analysis, and what
ever else she took.
We all no that LDT can’t be proof in a court.
There’s a reason there not,there not reliable.
Thanks Chakra, you’re very sweet person. been enjoying your posts btw.
Stormgardener- Oh my God a Bombshell, be still my beating heart. Ha
btw have a great visit w/ your family
Thank you Homespain, I’m getting so excited. Havent’ seen thegrandsons since Christmas.
Now old Lenny is o here too. He is so full of it. I’d love to hear someone call the show and ask him about the webcam he bought Lindsy. Ha ha, wonder if that call would go thru? That drop that call like a hot potatoe.
When misty gets word of a letter given to art harris misty acts like there is no letter as her dad says no one in the family would give it to them. Then, when he tells her they got it from police, she says she doesn’t care if they have the letter and has nothing to hide.
Interesting reversal on its existence.
I wonder if its the chelsea letter offered for sale.
Cricket
That’s right. He could leave it on and ‘accidentally’ leave it at werk. Add that to the so called j.o.b. witnesses vouching for his whereabouts…..
and there you have it, an alibi.
If only i could have a flapper to flapper talk with Ron’s ears, i could get alotta info, i tell ya.
Sorry, I can’t even type tonite. Can’t tell I’m excited.
You guys must all be an hour ahead of me. It’s 8:37 here. I was getting all confused. I wish I had an extra hour. Well, or an extra set of hands. That would work too. Lol
It’s awfully hot for May here too. Should have let the air run all day instead of using the timer.
Hope to be back later. I really enjoyed everyone’s posts last night. You are a great bunch of folks. I don’t have many friends anymore. seems like everyone has their own thing going on these days.
stormgardner said,
in May 26th, 2010 at 7:37 pm
Thank you Homespain, I’m getting so excited. Havent’ seen thegrandsons since Christmas.
Now old Lenny is o here too. He is so full of it. I’d love to hear someone call the show and ask him about the webcam he bought Lindsy. Ha ha, wonder if that call would go thru? That drop that call like a hot potatoe.
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winter has a way of making time slip away between visits. Unless it’s a distance thing.
You get on the show under the guise of something else then spring it on them. he he
They probably have a time delay thing just so they can terminate a call w/o viewers knowing it. If you got a few calls in a row, then the audience would hear they have a glitch or had to go elsewhere. There’s got to be some way to get stuff on there. Darn. I’d love to call in and tell her i have a bombshell for her.
That would be interesting to know if he had video installed for his viewing pleasure, to see the wild pink yonder, and Mount Tetons.
When did ron go back to work to get the phone?
NG needs to get a grip, she actually said whats Rons lifestyle got to do with it when Polly Klauses father was talking about Ron using young girls to babysit and to have sex, even getting one pregnant. I thought NG was the exorsist her head went right around. lol jmo
WhyLie said,
in May 26th, 2010 at 6:33 pm
Don’t know why lie
She also makes the plea sound like it is coming from the FDLE when it is from Ron and his lawyer. And it has not been accepted and probably wont be. jmo
Cricket said,
in May 26th, 2010 at 7:27 pm
Someone earlier said it was Misty fault that she
and it was her that made that decsion
She could be thinking she had nothing hide
so why not do LDT,voice analysis, and what
ever else she took.
We all no that LDT can’t be proof in a court.
There’s a reason there not,there not reliable.
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Yup
tobias said,
in May 26th, 2010 at 7:50 pm
NG needs to get a grip, she actually said whats Rons lifestyle got to do with it when Polly Klauses father was talking about Ron using young girls to babysit and to have sex, even getting one pregnant. I thought NG was the exorsist her head went right around. lol jmo
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what a biotch
NG has lost all objectivity in this case. She is so wanting to convict Misty without any real evidence. I believe she knows things but I dont believe she could harm Haleigh 100 % with out evidence saying she did. jmo
LP said Chelsea offered him the letter for $2500 but he didnt go for it. Seems he has learned a lesson with this bunch. Chelsea is just as crazy as the rest of them. jmo
tobias said,in May 26th, 2010 at 7:50 pm NG needs to get a grip, she actually said whats Rons lifestyle got to do with it when Polly Klauses father was talking about Ron using young girls to babysit and to have sex, even getting one pregnant. I thought NG was the exorsist her head went right around. lol jmo
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God that tix me off,wth did Belinda’s life have to do with anything then or caseys,dumbass no grace nancy…………
if you deal drugs you set yourself up and your family,see now……she pisses me off,i wish to God i could get on with her!
Hell,Misty was better than using chloroform,and n/g accused Melinda of prostitiuting, so what the hell??????
she don’t care to air their lifestyles!!!!!!
did he admit to phone sex Tobias…..honest did that get brought up?
awww Homespain your a sweetheart too, and you know I always enjoy your thought provoking posts
tobias said,in May 26th, 2010 at 7:58 pm NG has lost all objectivity in this case. She is so wanting to convict Misty without any real evidence. I believe she knows things but I dont believe she could harm Haleigh 100 % with out evidence saying she did. jmo
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yes she does,i swear theres another letter i’m gonna write,i might even use a chicken nugget for the stamp so she’ll get it!
Mark Klause even sees something wrong in Ron and NG just cant see passed the it. They even discussed the marriage and she saw nothing wrong with it. Someone did say that she wasnt going anywhere even when he wasnt married to her. lol NG couldnt reply to it. jmo
that bitch!
somehow i never figured nancy as submissive to a man,any human for that matter but its obvious ron charmed her big beady eyes!
she’s so biased!
Thanks Chakra.
I think it would be interesting to find out about Nancy grace secrets she doesn’t want out and see how she likes it.
she saw nuttin wrong with it ohhhhhhhh but she wanted the reason for the divorce,remember?
well,its obvious she never seen the video of ron getting upset with her,acted like she didn’t see it??
she saw nuttin wrong with it ohhhhhhhh but she wanted the reason for the divorce,remember?
so she’d have another piece of evidence against Misty!
tobias- completly 100% agree NG HAS lost all objectivity, and as a journalist that is not a good thing, she needs to get a clue that, that is why she has lost popularity, and hopefully ratings
What video was that one?
i can’t find it nowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww,looked everywhere,do you remember homespain,i posted it one night a few nights ago?
Is it on you tube?
he got po’ed cause n/g asked tn in the live interview with him about the divorce i think it was?
ill go find it,want it anyway,gonna email it to her!lol
The one I like to watch is when she brings up the bunch of potheads not being able to keep a lie going. Ron smirks really almost laughs. Bet he was thinking how stupid she is since he is higher than a kite right now. lol jmo
Well I guess if Ron’s lifestyle had nothing to do with it, than Misty’s had nothing to do with it either.
Wonder if Miss Nancy thinks Rons lifestyle had anything to do with him being arrested for trafficking in drugs…duh!
http:
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDrFyNys8Bo
check out this one in meantime,sugarmomma.grrrrrrrrr
bb soon as i find the other one!
chakra7 said,
in May 26th, 2010 at 8:26 pm
tobias- completly 100% agree NG HAS lost all objectivity, and as a journalist that is not a good thing, she needs to get a clue that, that is why she has lost popularity, and hopefully ratings
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It’s actually evil what she is doing in my estimation
She also pointed out his OBVIOUSLY being at werk. How does she know any more than we do about him being at werk? Is she just taking his word or did she have eye witnesses? We only know what has been reported but LE has never 100% said he is cleared, once they did but recently they have said everyone is suspect. LE can and do lie remember its not against the law to clear a person and then later arrest them. jmo
Got ot go to bed now hope we get those last tapes soon.
can’t find it but ill keep looking!
ng said nothing to do with him he was at work i wish that local from there in the rumors thread would call her and tell her he got sent home intoxicated plus he also had someone kin to him that worked there and left 6 mths after ron.now thats what the local said not me.
I have been reading, trying to catch up….I certainly hope the next vds are another put here in a different format…still cant download and listen….tks everyone for your suggestions,,still no luck….Hope we get some tomarrow….tks to Simon and Jan for keeping us informed…
twin chicken nugget bombshell…blaa
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Well, I’m beginning to think I just don’t give a rats azz if the house is clean or not. Can you say burn out? Lol
I see I’m not the only one dumbfounded by Nancy Disgrace tonight. She was so flipping rude to Mark Klauss, I’d like to slap the living sh+z out of her. He looked at her like she was nuts. I don’t know why on earth anyone would go on her show knowing what a cold hearted B she is.
can i see that online somewhere homespain,sounds interesting,lol
she bites my a$$!
what is it with her and women? I think she may be a lesbian in denial,she goes for the attack,dang n/g just come out da closet…….!
i swear she does,she don’t attack the men?? John Goslin yea but that goes without sayin’
who wouldn’t him?
you’d think after melinda she’d learn,dang she’s cold! I pity her husband!
Stormgardner- don’t stress yourself cleaning, they will be happy just to see you 🙂
stormgardner said,
in May 26th, 2010 at 9:14 pm
Absolutely smack the crap out of her
CathyJo- you would think she would have a vendetta against men , I think it was a man that killed her fiance, but she definetly has it out for young women
Storm,I am fed up with her too,thats uncalled for!
And as for your house,LoL
My face in the mirror isn’t wrinkled or drawn,
My house isn’t dirty the cobwebs are gone.
My garden looks lovely and so does my lawn
I think i might never put my glasses back on!
Chakra,honest to God,it does stand out don’t it?
I know i am not the only one who sees that?
Sothern,
Try VLC media player I had the same problem
but this one works for me.
I honestly hadn’t heard what she did to Melinda Duckett until after the fact. So she hounded Melinda until she commited suicide? And no one really knows for sure what happened to Trenton?
Sorry all the questions and it’s kind of off topic.
why,is there a new tape?
yes she did,and i didn’t know it till this case??
But she grilled her awful that day……..accusing her of holding out info!
Just like she does Misty!
one day if it ever somes out Melinda had no part in it,i pray n/g is alive to hear it!
well to be fair,we all do Misty but i mean n/g just won’t see but one side!
i still think the timeline should start when she got off the bus.to me i cant get past that and the fact that after a mth rc and mc werent arrested for child endangerment.what the heck is le on down there.such an injust to haleigh its like media just go away anf it will go cold.and ill say again i just dont get it.
@ CathyJo63
If you want to drop your own bombshell on Nancy Grace by calling in.
If you can stomach saying the words praise her twins in some way then drop your bombshell on how you feel about her lol :p
Melinda Duckett
Nancy Grace
“The only person who was not surprised during Melinda Duckett’s appearance on the Nancy Grace program was Melinda herself,” CNN argues in a motion for summary dismissal of a “talk-show tort” case filed by Duckett’s parents.
As evidence that Duckett was not a victim of “ambush journalism,” the motion cites a “script of talking points” she created on her laptop computer the evening before her Sept. 7, 2006 interview with host Nancy Grace. Investigators found a printed copy of the script at the home of her grandparents where she shot herself the day after the interview.
The “talking points” discuss, among other things, the circumstances of Trenton Duckett’s disappearance and how Melinda Duckett would respond if asked whether she had taken a polygraph test. Trenton was reported missing by his mother Aug. 27, 2006, sparking national media coverage.
“All of the evidence unequivocally shows that Melinda knew precisely what she might be asked on Nancy Grace, and — word-for-word — how she planned to respond,” attorney Charles D. Tobin says in the summary judgment motion.
Duckett’s parents, Beth and William Eubank, allege “Nancy Grace” producers misled her into believing the interview would help in the search for her missing child when, in fact, “the real purpose of the show … was to try to obtain a confession as to ‘where she was’ on the night that [the child] disappeared.”
During the interview, Grace allegedly subjected the “anguished mother” to “severe interrogation, fist-pounding, and veiled accusations that she was responsible for her child T.D.’s disappearance and death.” Among other things, she repeatedly asked if Duckett had taken a polygraph.
Cathyjo It is obvious to most people I think
She has a mental aberration,is a bully and sadist
Lol, love the poem. Doesn’t take much these days to talk me out of it. Heck, you wouldn’t be able to tell I touched it an hour after they’ve been here anyway.
Cathy Jo: I would love to hear you call into NG show, Lol, I know you won’t if you didn’t even want to call BNN, but I can’t think of a better person to ease in there and put her in her place.
CathyJo- Tonights show made it so obvious, when Mark Klaas brought up stuff against Ron , she completly shut him down , soon she is going to pizz so many people off no one is going to go on the show (except for Art ) I mean Mark Klaas at least deserves respect, He has done so much for missing kids
SoTrue,I doubt they got her off the bus and thats why i think too AS said she saw her that night,I’d almost bet whatever happened did earlier!
They weren’t sure if she was even in school that day for awhile but i dunno how her school wouldn’t know that?
exactly right Chakra,and to degrade him for a drug dealer,thats just dirty!!!!!!!!!
if we smoked a joint,she’d hang us out to dry!
Todd,you bet i could for that long,i’d make myself stomach it! I’d ask her too,nancy,im on foodstamps and welfare that your taxes pay for and i smoked a joint so does that make me bad? rofl or teller i’m a dealer too!
honey you watch me call,next time LIVE!!!!!!!!!!!
By granny id i don’t? somebody needs to put her in her place and im tired of it,i wanna watch that jawl hit the floor!
could say oh yea nancy,aw the twins are so cute and i noticed they have tommy croslins ears and etc………SLAM!!!!!!!!!!!!
i thought santos and girl friend said she did and that they and the bus driver told le misty picked haleigh up but rc told them he did so they didnt want to hear misty did cause rc said he did.so crazy if i was a local for the shake of haleigh id tell them what i no but they seem afraid also.so confussing
Great point CathyJo- actually NG would correct you its ALLEDGED drug dealer LOL,
I can’t even watch NG anymore,my head starts feeling like it’s going to explode. Her “bombshells” are old news. It is sooooo obvious when she shuts her guests down if anyone says anything negative about Ron.
For that reason you doggone straight i’ll call,i’ll tell em i got a mean ? and remark for misty….rofl
Chakra7 said,
in May 26th, 2010 at 9:38 pm
CathyJo- Tonights show made it so obvious, when Mark Klaas brought up stuff against Ron , she completly shut him down , soon she is going to pizz so many people off no one is going to go on the show (except for Art ) I mean Mark Klaas at least deserves respect, He has done so much for missing kids
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Right, exactly!
well,ole cathy will drop one hell of a bombshell on her!
I didn’t watch the show (no stomach for it) but I would like to say to Nancy:
Guilty of harming Haleigh or not:
1. He is a racist (play the tape of him talking about his cell mates)
2. He sleeps with underage girls.
3. He uses/deals drugs.
I don’t think any of these 3 points can be disputed.
By not acknowledging these three facts, she is supporting it. So;
Nancy is a racist.
Nancy condones statutory rape.
Nancy supports drug use.
I might be a little dramatic but it is how I feel. And I do acknowledge Haleigh’s mother has made really bad lifestyle choices too!
CathyJo63 said,
in May 26th, 2010 at 9:19 pm
who wouldn’t him?
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Who is John Goslin?
seeeee,she won’t even hear of it,wish i could find that doggone video of ron losing his temper with her,i’d email it to her with a remark,oh yea uhhh nancy,i bought some dope off ron a yr ago and he stiffed me,i wantz my dough!
CathyJo I would LMAO if I heard that.
I remember of guest she had on during this case or it may of been the Casey Anthony one. He said something she didnt like, he told her off, then she threw him off her show.
She can dish it out but can’t take it back.
kate plus 8 homespain,the reality show??
the dad of 8 kids,run off with another wo,am and drained kate’s(the mom) bank acct!
by granny Todd,if i knew she’d take my call,ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh you’d hear it,guarantee ya you would,im sick of her biased attitude!
I’d say even her coworkers would love that bombshell!
she don’t wanna tick me off,i say whatever comes to mind! sorry but i do!
and i don’t care for ratings!
omg i said shake of instead of sake what planet am i on.
yea Chakra..ALLeged?? grrrrrrrrrrr
hey,,anybody know what time to call??????????
Nancy Grace is an ambush journalist (just like the Ducketts claimed). There was a petition floating around for people to sign to have her fired. There are also show clips where she completely disrespected her guests’ wishes, such as Elizabeth Smart. There is a I hate Nancy Grace movement going on and I hope they succeed in her termination. She lost her objectivity a long time ago and hopefully she will lose her following and her job. She needs to bring her ego back down to earth and the only way to do that is if she loses her voice and her show. I am sure CNN could find a more respectful host. JMO
CathyJo63 said,
in May 26th, 2010 at 9:51 pm
kate plus 8 homespain,the reality show??
the dad of 8 kids,run off with another wo,am and drained kate’s(the mom) bank acct!
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Thanks, That’s right, what a loser….
live during the show right???? or no??
I hope melindas family gets every dime she has!!!!!!
JillF: Well put. Thank you for making it simple. How can anyone dispute his character? I just don’t get it.
CathyJo: Glad to see that you’re still giving it to em’……….
i’d like to see her live on Mcnuggets!
CathyJo63 said, could say oh yea nancy,aw the twins are so cute and i noticed they have tommy croslins ears
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OMG, please let us know when you call. Can you imagine? haaaaaaaaa Can you just picture her jaw dropping and those eyes bugging out? She needs to know her bombshells are old.
CathyJo
Where were you raised ? I ask because you have sayings just like my family, I was born Tenn.
raised in Calif. but my parents kept up their
Tenn. vocabulary.
I miss the way they said those little things
They both passed about 30yrs..ago.
robin said,
in May 26th, 2010 at 9:55 pm
You know Robin, She hasn’t gotten jolted awake after what happened to Duckett, and now the lawsuit, and she’s even worse now. She’s drunk with power and self righteousness.
She will fall very hard.
always lucy,lol I’ll take it so long but for her to sit there and cut Klauss off,thats just dirty,onesided,biased bombshell bullshit!when rons as bad as misty if not worse which btw i doubt! putting guns in his mouth and n/g take that crap and adore him,hellllllllllllllllllll no!
oh i’ll be here when i call!!!!
I was born and raised in eastern ky,letcher county ky.in coon holler,lol
I was thinking about something today, on one of the past tapes Hank talks to Tommy about how Ronald called him when misty was on her weekend away with WBG, anyway he says that it was about 1:00 am and Ronald wanted Hank to go with him to find Misty and Ronald says to Hank that he can leave the kids in the trailer that they are asleep so this got me thinking that if that was normal for Ronald (to leave the kids asleep alone in the trailer at night) then you would assume that he would be ok about it if misty did that also, So I wonder if Misty did leave the kids that night it would make sense that she wouldn’t really know what happend, Also in her voice analysis I think it showed truth when she stated that she didn’t know who did something to HaLeigh but Deception when she stated that she didn’t think Ronald was involved
Stilllucy – I don’t get that either.
Cathy has a lot on her plate:
Call Nancy
Write to Misty
We expect an update soon! 🙂
the madder i get,the longer the list Jill!
Homespain,
I can’t wait .
nancy grace SPIT on marc klass…
an advocate for children and a parent who went thru hell..
shes dirt!
robin: It’s going to very interesting to see just what the legal issues with the Duckett case do to good ole’ NG’s career.
There was another female that had a daytime formatted show that was sued by a family over a suicide, I can’t remember her name…..What’s that tell you?
Good night, have fun………
stormgardner said,
in May 26th, 2010 at 9:57 pm
CathyJo63 said, could say oh yea nancy,aw the twins are so cute and i noticed they have tommy croslins ears
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OMG, please let us know when you call. Can you imagine? haaaaaaaaa Can you just picture her jaw dropping and those eyes bugging out? She needs to know her bombshells are old.
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OMG That did it, I laughed so hard i barely made it…. I can see it now. Lets photocopy a picture of the twins with the ears on them and put them on the ireport place instead of your face reporting a story.
omg really????????? that i don’t doubt!
ron told misty the babysitting would get easier too,thats what the fight was about to my understanding!
omgggggggggg now theres an idea!!! homespain!
I agree OJ!!!!!!!!!!!!
if Mark had been a druggie,omgggggggggg tho.she’da took time to grind him in the dirt!
There is a God! I finally agree with something that OJ has to say! I now know that it is truly time for me to get some sleep!
NG was discussing a case where a psycho father gave his 3 yr old alcohol and almost killed her. She was furious that the mother was still living with the jerk, but isn’t it possible that the mother wants to keep her friends close and her enemies closer.
Sorry, I couldn’t help myself.
ROTFLMBO- yes , sorry CathyJo we have made your to do list, long lol
Homespain – “She’s drunk with power and self righteousness” Spot on description of Nancy Grace!
like i said,Last night as I lay in bed i thought of Tommy’s ears and then i thought….omg,wheres my ceiling…….lol
he’s growing on us now ain’t he Lucy,lol
Tg Chakra cuz i can’t remember it all! lol
roflmao Mary,omg gooden….i give ya a 10!!!!!!
Great point Stillucy – and I know who your talking about but for the life of me can’t remember her name either
ohhhhhhh,i’ll dial every sec tomorrow night!!!!!!!! I gotta do it now!
maryd – Great point about friends close/enemies closer bs. Or maybe she needs to behead a rat and put it in someone’s mailbox to see if the psycho father is a good liar!
i will do it! She’ll hear this hillbilly voice and mistake it for ignorance as she often does and omg!!!!!
I thought maybe that you fixed him some kool-aid. The “good” kool-aid!
You guys are cracking me up tonight. It’s been along time trying to figure out this bunch of idiots. I think it’s starting to get us all.
CathyJo63 said,
in May 26th, 2010 at 10:04 pm
omgggggggggg now theres an idea!!! homespain!
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but,…. it’s not their fault mom’s a u know what, but she’s fair game. I have a name I’d call her on air. she’s a c–t. Save that one only for the most special ones.
Well. I’m not gonna spend the rest of my evening thinking about her.
My man wants some attention. Have a good night.
JillF
LMAO
Ok – time for bed. I usually just read and not post but could not resist tonight.
Cathy: A tip I learned about calling in to Nancy: The producer will ask you what you plan to say so make sure you tell them something they want to hear in the pre-call screening and then give them a real bombshell! lol
besides if it hadn’t been for ronald in the uc car,ron woulda lost a dollar,cuz misty couldn’t think of the amt owed,remember….n/g oughta be thankful!
MaryD- good one !!!
right homespain,but she didn’t care to accuse cs of “whoring” jr on tv!
so her twins could use some flappy ears to teach her a lesson!
already covered but ty Jill,lol
it aint their fault their moms a witch!
Homespain said: OMG That did it, I laughed so hard i barely made it…. I can see it now. Lets photocopy a picture of the twins with the ears on them and put them on the ireport place instead of your face reporting a story.
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That would have to be one of the funniest things ever. Can you imagine being able to capture the look on her face when she sees her adorable twins?
Well, better not, Lisa might think her baby boys Timmy & Tommy were on televison. Lol
remember herabout Paris Hilton,omg
then she said all casey needed was a beer and a good pushup bra,just cuz i agree about casey don’t make it right,lol
I almost wish she’d made me mad at 7 pm tonight! lol
omg,rofl i just typed in search box,nancy grace and drug dealer,brought mistys pic up…omg lol no joke!!!
was gonna see videos where she condoned them before,hmmmmm maybe thats why its the only one sheesh!
What if Misty was so high that night she thought she was seeing pink elephants! Never realizing it was her brothers.
i am so glad n/g gets cameras on her in the Duckett case!!!!
If she seen tommy she seen dumbo,lol
CathyJo
If you do get through to Nance I think there is a delay when you speak. So the minute she hears the name “Ron”, she will press the goodbye caller button. You have to be quick!
that video of ronald outside the tattoo shop was just disgusting,I am sorry but if n/g saw that video and still takes up for Ronald then she’s crazy,its apparent he was stoneddddddddd!
Chakra–That talk show host was Jenny (but I can’t remember her last name).
not about his remarks or anything,just saying if she thinks he’s all goody she’s wrong!
jenny jones??
robin said,in May 26th, 2010 at 10:29 pm Chakra–That talk show host was Jenny (but I can’t remember her last name).
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hmm Mary,omg…..lol
what if i don’t say ron right off?? Is that what you mean.lol i am an idiot sooooo.lol
I’ll say sommin like,why is it you uphold a daddy whose a drug user and dealer….when he brought that into her life,remember n/g hunny,Misty was the minor???? ron was the older dude dealer’
I don’t know CathyJ, but I hope you get through and she let’s you finish. What name will you use so we know it’s you? lol
so i guess its ok if the twins are with an older dealer and user when theyre 17??
Cathy?? lol it is my name,lol
she may say,Cathy from Tennessee?? lol
ohh i can’t wait now!
Chakra–The talk show host was Jenny Jones.
Usually when NG gets a question she doesn’t like she turns it over to the lady with the black hair (don’t remember her name).
I know it’s not meant to be funny, but the NG video of her saying something to Ron about going to a pot party cracked me up for some reason. I know everyone picked up on Ron grinning, but seriously who say’s that? Going to a pot party. Ron’s a real turd, but I can’t say I wouldn’t have laughed too. She’s just a freak.
And whatever you think about Misty, that woman has something personal against her. I think she really hates her. How can you treat a kid like that? I know Misty’s 18, but she is still just a kid.
Natisha Mary,or??
stormgardner said,in May 26th, 2010 at 10:42 pm I know it’s not meant to be funny, but the NG video of her saying something to Ron about going to a pot party cracked me up for some reason. I know everyone picked up on Ron grinning, but seriously who say’s that? Going to a pot party. Ron’s a real turd, but I can’t say I wouldn’t have laughed too. She’s just a freak.
And whatever you think about Misty, that woman has something personal against her. I think she really hates her. How can you treat a kid like that? I know Misty’s 18, but she is still just a kid.
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Exactly she does!!!!!!!! and n/g kisses AH ass so……………probably why!
Cathy,
Do you not have HLN on cable to catch her live – ngrace?
Robin- ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Jenny jones yes thank you, that was gonna bother me all night
Sorry I never remember names. She’s an older woman with slanty eyes.
exactly right,Misty was underage and thats just cruel to keep it going on the air!
ya know,theres no way she knows her own kids won’t be a drugger one day!
none of us plan on our kids growing up and doing it!
exactly right,Misty was underage and thats just cruel to keep it going on the air!
ya know,theres no way she knows her own kids won’t be a drugger one day!
none of us plan on our kids growing up and doing it!
no i don’t have cable Jaba??
“jaba said,in May 26th, 2010 at 7:50 pm
When did ron go back to werk to get the phone?”
He could’ve snuck outta work, left his phone there (turned on), went home and handled things wiff haleigh (whatever that may have been) while someone covers for him at werk, then snuck back to werk befo’ end of his shift so he can clock himself out and get phone (or if someone clocked him out could be the same trusted person to hold phone for him), stop at store, grab goodies and go home like nuttin’ eva happened. This could’ve all happened right around the time he couldn’t reach misty. can’t reach her, so get a friend to watch his back while he sneak out and see or handle whatever is goin’ on at home.
Point being my lil ear haters 😛 (from these ears to your eyes, lol)…there’s so many ways to explain his so called alibi. Street smarts is sometimes more powerful than book smarts when it comes to knowing how cops operate and investigate.
Jus’ sayin’.
even rich celebrities kids do!
I don’t understand why Ronald isn’t considered a sex offender being with a 16 yr old. Or was she 17??
CathyJo- YES , lol definetly say something like oh you condone it so it would be ok if the twins were with an adult drug dealer when they are minors LOL
Anyone know what kind of car Ronald drove to work that night?
thats what i have thought,tn or somebody parked at his work,holding his phone,and remember the red truck?
id tell her that child married a hot tempered,drug-dealing,child impregnating,controlling,raging murder- threatening,gun-toting,women-smacking,monster of a man.i think this was one of the best explanations id ever seen.
mary,prolly why he married her!
Ng doesn’t kiss AH ass. Watch the show from tonight. He gets ripped.
Chakra,oh she’d blow a gasket then!!!!!!
CathyJo- many times its especially celebrity kids, unfortunatly
wowwwww Jaba,i wish i’d seen that!!!!!
Well she USED too,lol
right,Look at Farrahs son,couldn’t even attend her funeral and stuff b/c of it! sad!!!!prison for drugs!
sotrue said,in May 26th, 2010 at 10:54 pm id tell her that child married a hot tempered,drug-dealing,child impregnating,controlling,raging murder- threatening,gun-toting,women-smacking,monster of a man.i think this was one of the best explanations id ever seen.
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true,lol
Jaba- thats true AH gets smacked too , but I think he enjoys it lol
i wonder if ron snuck home to see if the other guy was there?
Don’t have cable….ouch, I’m cable-addicted.:)
shux,my pc shut off again,lol
i was wondering if when they got in an argument at 8:30 he told her to just leave and someone would be there..and from there she doesnt no all that went down.
where can i watch it online? anybody know a link?
I have the addresses Cathyjoe,I will get them to u in a few days,got to dig them outa one of these big purses i have.lol
i dunno but i assume he is obcessed with misty?
Ron could have snuck home but I gotta feeling he knew what was going on but stayed out of dodge so he could secure an alibi , but I could be wrong, I wouldn’t put anything past Ron,
http
://www.
youtube.com/profile?
user=floodofnoah#p/u/0/FHELK-VzbZo
see what you think of this video?
I’m with ya Chakra…….very real possibility!
Oh Ok Thank You Jan!!!!!
CathyJo- you tube Sierra 1947 normally puts up all NG shows
yea,i’ve seen that,she does good!!
brb gonna look for sommin!
ya she is dedicated , she chronicles everything lol
My full post is in DVD 1 thread:
New here and still learning my away around.
Ronald Cummings fits the classic profile of an Abusive Personality.
That Monday night many of those signs were aroused in Ronald:
Jealousy: He was mad at MC for her weekend of drug cocktails & sex. He had kicked her out prior to that Monday. So why would he care what she does? Maybe MC was realizing she was only a sex toy and babysitter to RC. We have heard his family didn’t want to keep his kids anymore. So leave them with a 17 year old coming off a 3 day drug fest.
Controlling Behavior: He was losing control of MC. She did not want to keep the kids that night. On the tape we hear she says “she was wanting away from RC, but the kids kept her coming back”. I believe her, she was already feeling used. After all he kicked her out a few days before all this happened. RC would use Haleigh to lure her back.
Quick Involvement: Most abuser will start controlling behavior within less than six months. As this behavior gets worse, the abuse will become more controlling. Misty was tired of being RC’s babysitter. Remember MC refused; RC MADE her keep the kids.
Threatening Violence: MC says RC would make the threat of killing himself, as did his ex-girlfriends. They also make threats to kill their partner, to the point they stay in the relationship (when children are involved it makes it harder to leave) it seems MC really cares about kids. She gets real upset when she talks about how she felt about Haliegh. Abusers often pull this trick for attention or to stop his partner from leaving. Also, I think RC was behind the rat.
Drink or Substance Abuse: The use of drugs is signs of an abusive personality, heavy drinking or drug abuse may be a warning sign and do increase the risks of abuse, especially violence, taking place. …no doubt drugs were involved in this case.
Cruelty to Children: RC denied ever abusing his children. (Except for what DFS allows) He denies doing drugs, abusing women & knowing anything about what happen to his daughter.
Ronald Cummings knows exactly what happen to his daughter. If anyone else would have hurt Haleigh, RC would have tried killed whoever was responsible, not call 911. If MC harmed Haleigh that night (IMO) RC would have probably beat her to death, but instead he married her? So she can’t testify against him? Then he divorced her? Did he find out the marriage would not stop her from testifying against him, because they were not married at the time of Haliegh’s disappearance? (I’m not sure of the FL laws regarding this matter)
He sent ToC the message via a dead rat.
They need to look at the Cummings family a little closer. top of the list… Ronald!
Would the DA even consider giving ron anything off his charges if he thought ron was involved in the Haleigh case?
We know rons attorney is trying to sell a plea deal to the DA and not the other way around, but, the DA has to feel comfortable that ron isn’t culpable to any degree before accepting it. I still don’t know what the DA would need ron for anyway on the drug trafficking.
does anyone know where I can see the Lindsy Pics from yesterday , I looked at scared monkeys and read the report but saw no pics
MeMeMel- all good points, I also beleive Ron shows the classic signs of an abuser, and was very controlling to everyone in his life
In Florida you are able to testify against your spouse even if your married although they can not force you to.
hi – i started reading on this blog about 5 days ago. i like many am interested in finding haleigh. i am so tired of ng being judge and jury on misty, i cant stand it. this has been delightful and i am finding out more than i ever learned on ng.
some of your senerios make sense even if they are scary. i have for a long time considered cs and her family have taken her and are hiding her someplace. no reasoning behind it but like to hear others feel the same. i will be joining you nightly to hear all the new news till facts can be found for haleigh
Jaba – I am truly baffled by that myself, why would they even need him to testify the tapes lay it out and they are very clear.
as much as I think Rons guilty, I have to agree with you, It’s hard to believe that the DA would deal thinking that there is even a possibility that Ron is involved with HaLeigh
possibly they think that Ron has knowledge of others that are more involved
also he is testifying in the Drug case they have made that distinction, so maybe they would charge they HaLeigh case after and seperatly
CathyJo63 said,
in May 26th, 2010 at 10:59 pm
i wonder if ron snuck home to see if the other guy was there?
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Back for a little while. Got the man asleep so I could come back…. I’m bad , I know.
It’s been so funny here tonight just had to.
CathyJo, You know out of all the reason’s he might have left work, that is the one reason I could see him sneaking out over. But unlikely he did.
It would be easy to verify if he was there cause you’d think somebody would have been around, at least every half hour to account for him. It would take longer than that for him to get home and come back. Also if his productivity went below a certain level, I’d think someone would have picked up on it.
If anything, I’d think he’d call Mama, get her involved to spy on Misty, under the guise that she was seeing how things were going.
Anyone know if there are cameras out in the business parking lot or indoors, at Ron’s workplace?
It seems Haleigh scent ended at the railroad tracks. It also seems from what I’ve read that those tracks lead just adjacent to PDM where Ronald works. Who’s to say she wasn’t put in a suitcase and taken to Ronald and he himself didn’t hide her body. Just thinkin again.
chakra7 said,
in May 26th, 2010 at 11:29 pm
does anyone know where I can see the Lindsy Pics from yesterday , I looked at scared monkeys and read the report but saw no pics
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Try: whoresbeus.com…….kidding
boonebroncos- WELCOME – glad to have ya aboard
have yall seen this,ron and his attorney?
ron looks different all together but he goes into his plea and his mouth starts doing weird stuff,lol like he is gonna cy but doesn’t want to and just as quick tho he goes right back into full spead,odd! imo
http
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watch?v=0k-DXzNXYh0&feature=related
homespain- your back 🙂 LOL thanks I’ll try that site LOL
jaba said,in May 26th, 2010 at 11:28 pm Would the DA even consider giving ron anything off his charges if he thought ron was involved in the Haleigh case?
We know rons attorney is trying to sell a plea deal to the DA and not the other way around, but, the DA has to feel comfortable that ron isn’t culpable to any degree before accepting it. I still don’t know what the DA would need ron for anyway on the drug trafficking.
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how about if the tapes are tossed out as evidence? Hope’s lawyer made a majorblunder pleading her guilty as charged! Should have proceeded to trial and made motions to surpress the tapes for several different legal issues.
Hopefully misty’s lawyer is taking it to trial.
If I was on the jury it would be NOT GUILTY on all counts! They were all set up and ENTRAPPED which are grounds to toss all the corrupted so called “evidence” that LE has “manufactured”.
Its disgusting what LE has resorted too, trumpting up bogus charges and poisoning misty’s name to the potential jury pool..Outragious misconduct by LE!
maryd- oh thats very interesting and chilling
Sorry forgot my 57 after my name,on my above post.
wowwwww,heres a video from the last day Haleigh was seen,by the guy Jerry at the bus stop,listen especially around the 3-5 min mark!!!!!!
http
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chakra7- Thanks. I’m from Texas, here if it’s a crime against a minor child or any other living persons: living in the same household other than the spouse. The spouse have to testify if called upon.
boonebroncos- WELCOME – glad to have ya aboard
Hi Chakra, yea just crushed some extended release Oxycontin in his ice cream… Then after the pot party I came back here.
You know, kinda like what Timmy did to his wife. Oh maybe I ought to check and see if he is breathing..
I’ve learned so many new valuable life lessons here.
And developed new skills on how to deceive your mate.
Well got to tare myself away and say goodnight. Goodnight all. 🙂
Heres the video of the lady who saw misty hit that little boy!
http :// www. youtube.com/watch?v=oXGN3OVgGyE&feature=related
she said he was not thereeeee at the bustop!
.Outrageous misconduct by LE! – absolutelly
Night mary d
Blah, blah, blah.
Shock value for the sake of shock value.
Help hope with her appeal if the feeling is that strong. Nothing stopping anyone from that.
OMG!!!!!!!!!!
http: //www. youtube. com/watch?v=oXGN3OVgGyE&feature=related
You gotta hear this,every entire word to the end!
Oj i agree with you
So do I Oj and Jan!
she’s so confused on top of it!
Night ,ill get those addresses out to Cat soon. An stop by to chat,ive just been reading through all these DVD comments for the last few days. Have a good night all.
Praying for Haliegh,an seeking the truth!!!
that lady sounds like she is very honest!
She said ron was not at the bus stop that day!
and she assumed,he made threats to her husban and her about their kids!
Still though Jaba,not being cruel but what if your child was the one in hope and mistys situation!
would you not want it to be fair? I know i would….jmo
homespain – I’m so happy to hear about all the fabulous skills your learning here LOL next you can learn how to make tons of money dealing LOL oh , thats if your not already LOL LOL
ty Jan…gnite
And don’t forget misty admitted to some of the charges.
Saw it on ngrace of all places. misty is on jail tape saying it.
And I still wonder why one would want to warn misty about snitched in jail. If she’s innocent , what could she say to a snitch, unless she did know something and it would help solve the case. Odd position to take but I’m sure there is a good reason.
in cowboy days jaba would be leading the lynch mob and screaming “HANG EM and try em later!”
and loving it.
MemeMel- I was born in Texas, but moved to FL when I was three
lmbo@OJ……
brb coffee
but but ron was warned by gms nobodys warned misty yet.she hadnt had everything candy coated like all the women in rcs life have done for him..she prob needs to no..and shes already told them about her dream they even helped her with.
chakra7 said,
in May 27th, 2010 at 12:27 am
homespain – I’m so happy to hear about all the fabulous skills your learning here LOL next you can learn how to make tons of money dealing LOL oh , thats if your not already LOL LOL
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Thanks chakra,
Yes the job skills are coming along. The money I’m earning now from trafficking drugs will go to a scholarship fund to help others learn how to hone their skills as well.
Well good night, nice talking with you.
CathyJo63 said,in May 27th, 2010 at 12:34 am brb coffee
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at this time? you’ll be up all night..
I like the taste of coffee though..
I like my coffee like I like my women..
black and strong!
No one has any proof to say anything has been unfair to any one of these criminals.
They have not been charged with anything but drug trafficking and in florida that will get you a ton of time.
If it were my kid, I’d look at the evidence and along with an attorney figure the best course of action. If they were caught dead to rights like these 4, then I’d advise a plea deal offer be put forth. Just like all these will do.
If you have had a ex or relative that went to jail for a crime they were convicted of then you may have a different outlook.
Laws are there for a reason. You don’t like them or follow them, you get punished. As they say though, prison is full of innocent people, right? Some are, but most are not and we all know it.
Homespain- that is great, what a way to give back LOL LOL
nawww to tell you the truth, I find brains most attractive..and killer legs doesn’t hurt.
Do you wear daisey dukes cathy? like the lady in dukes of hazzard wore? omg
i so wish le would have applied those laws 1yr and half ago.they failed to do that.its total injust to haleigh.
I consider someone who admits to sneaking pot into a prison a criminal too.
Its just like mistys admission in a way.
heres the video of ronald at the dock with that paper he pulled out of his pocket!
we tried to refind that thing forever!
http :// www. wesh.com/video/18778183/index.html
OJ’s glove said,in May 27th, 2010 at 12:39 am CathyJo63 said,in May 27th, 2010 at 12:34 am brb coffee
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at this time? you’ll be up all night..
I like the taste of coffee though..
I like my coffee like I like my women..
black and strong!
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Thats what you think,I can drink 8 pots a day by my self OJ have forever,lol
Right,me too Oj,not cold and bitter like my ex-mother n law!
i bet there all up in smoke in those 2 jails.just saying
OJ,Maybe after i iron the wrinkles outta my skin,lol
i wonder what was on that paper ron handed them……and then they picked chad griffis up?
man i thought we’d get a new tape by now,
nite cathy..
later..
Hey, just got on here (its 3am, yikes). Thanks for the understanding on my post about CS and the kids pictures. Shockwave, I wasn’t insinuating that you didn’t know it was her daughter. I was making a comparison. That since it was her daughter and she rarely got to see her, maybe she should of taken more pics.
Anyway, I guess it goes to show that we can say something two different ways and get two or more meanings out of it.
Wonder if that’s whats happening with this case?
Also, NG pissed me off royally when she started talking smack to Mark Klass. My boyfriend got ticked too and said, “God she is an evil, ugly bitch! I don’t even want to watch her anymore!” I don’t think I’ve ever heard him say something like that before.
It was definitely uncalled for. I think she needs a break. She is losing all perspective and hates it when someone says something that makes total sense, because it takes the sensationalism out of the show.
Ok, so you all know by now that I think Misty is innocent. BUT tonight watching NG, I started thinking….WHAT IF…
What if she has DID (Dissociative Identity Disorder)…its the old ‘multiple personality disorder’ diagnosis.
Seriously, what if she has the sweet Misty who in her words “does everything for everyone and just gets screwed over every time”, ron used her, her relatives abused her, she was used, etc, etc. Add etoh, drugs, etc. Is it possible she was psychotic that night, did something to Haleigh and doesn’t ‘consciously’ remember? She has shut down her subconscious. That would explain the failed LDT, while beleiving she told the truth. They have a very complex set of memories and behavior patterns for each personality.
I watched her switch from a crying Misty that didn’t know what happened to Haleigh, to a sulky flat affect child that only said ‘dunno’ when asked a question, to a happy glowing girl with an engagement ring, an ecstatic bride, to a scared girl getting robbed of her drugs, to a smart ass pill seller getting busted. Way different personalities in a short amount of time after a tragedy. She has had enough abuse in her life with etoh and drugs…. She wanted Ron all to herself! She wanted the attention! Plus, she didn’t want to babysit! She fought with Ron! What did she do in those 2 hours the phone was off?
Fact…”Generally, there is amnesia for the events that took place when another personality was in the dominant position…the other personality experiences black outs and lost time”. “They may frequently be accused of lying when they deny remembering or being responsible for events or actions that occurred while another personality controlled the body.”
So, I heard Misty say in a recent tape that she was off of a certain medicine because it gave her side effects. What cha wanna bet, that she is getting psych meds? Talk about getting some more ‘mental clarity’! (sorry bitchy NG, but it is mental clarity when she gains self awareness or makes rational statements).
More and more may need to happen and she may talk more and more as time goes on. This is why she is honest when she says she doesn’t remember and at the same time is lying.
However, I think she is innocent until proven otherwise. I would still go with the CS clan having something to do with this.
Just my opinions….
Maybe Tommy helped Misty and so did Timmy? Tommy is minimizing all of her stories, saying she is lying and making things up, but I think people like Mark Klass think she is gaining ‘mental clarity’ and the truth will come out. Tommy wants her to shut up!
Of course, i say she is innocent. She may of witnessed something very stressful that night and has dissociative amnesia from it. VERY highly possible. That would get my vote.
@robin said,
in May 26th, 2010 at 12:39 pm
How many times did Crystal look for her missing daughter?
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Robin, I have many addicts in my family (something to be proud of isn’t it) and they are all what I call defeatist meaning that they give up quickly when something isn’t going their way. Look at the Hope Sykes case for example: The quickest fix for her was to rush to a plea deal. Ronald folded pretty quickly in his case too. I would guess that it was easier for Crystal to just take that same defeatist attitude and assume her daughter was dead. That way she could have it behind her and she could continue with her drug use.
Just my opinion though.
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CathyJo63 said,
in May 26th, 2010 at 8:23 pm
somehow i never figured nancy as submissive to a man,
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The image of Miz Nancy in a ball gag sort of made me smile!
JenM
I like your thoughts on the DID matter only that the symptoms your described are more in line with Schitzophrenia then Borderline Personality Disorder or Disassociative Identity Disorder. The deciding factor usually is that the Schitzo affective personalities rarely know what each other are doing, while the DID or BPD patient never loses consciousness or is unaware of what they have done, seen, heard ect. Schitzo affective has more than one “person” while the other two diagonsies are only “one” person who has severe mood shifts or only mirror the emotions & beliefs of those around them at any given moment… JMO
God, I wanted to smack the crap out of Nancy last night!!!! Why is she so obsessed with him? I cant wait to see the look on her face when they find out Ron knew something!
Trotline—I believe you could be right about Crystal. We have seen a lot of defeatist attitude in this case. I know you are a local (if I recall correctly) and your insight is greatly appreciated. I have always wondered how the locals feel and what they think happened. So thanks again for the insight.
I noted on Find a Grave NG’s former fiance’ WKG is posted with a photo of him & Nancy. In my opinion, he shows a striking resemblance to RC.
HollysGMom, I got the diagnosis for DID directly from the psychiatric DSM IV book, so I doubt they have them confused. Multiple Personality (or now called DID) is two or more personalities.
I personally know someone diagnosed with Schizoaffective Disorder and is not like DID at all. Schizoaffective Disorder ishas a stong element of symptomatology associasted with the mood disorders.
Check it out again and you will see.
JenM: I work with protected adults that are affected by many mental disorders and Misty is still a case in review…….With her personal history and drug history, she would be a case for diagnosis. I wish her attorney would have her evaluated. It could help her and this disgusting case with little HaLeigh.
Thanks for the post.
Do we have the tape from after the LDT test yet?
robin said,in May 26th, 2010 at 5:15 pm JB–I enjoy your posts as well. You are so articulate with your opinions and I never find them argumentative at all. I value them and you always give me something to think about–several things actually. I envy your blind faith in LE, because most of the time they are right. I do not envy their job either because simply put, this case is a mess. I also think LE has some hand in this mess. They released these tapes of irrelevant material that put the focus solely on these drug addicted trainwrecks. I do not for one minute want to be subjected day and night to the ruination of their lives by media that is only interested in ratings. For all the Carla Brucia cases in this world, there are several that have went unsolved because of LE’s focus on the wrong person or family member. The Dowalibys and Aisenbergs come to mind. In my own honest opinion, I think another girl will fall victim to the person responsible, and then and only then, will we find the answers (like the Chelsea King-Amber Dubois cases). I strongly believe that a sexual predator is responsible for this disappearance and Haleigh (sad to say) will be his plea bargain to get out of the ultimate punishment–the death penalty. I also entertain the Sheffield theory since their behavior and statements seems so suspect in certain instances. Whomever is responsible, be it the ones in jail, Sheffields, or a sexual predator, they deserve the worst punishment possible. I do believe we all can agree on that! JMO.
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Robin – thank you for your response and I’m SO glad we can discuss our theories without conflict. Your posts are well thought out and intelligent and I appreciate our ability to discuss the case and even our conflicting viewpoints WITHOUT conflict. You too have given me a great deal to think about and mull over and you are certainly right that no matter WHO is responsible for this mess and the loss of this beautiful child, all ANY of us truly wants is justice. The circus sideshows are merely an unwanted distraction from the importance of solving this case.
Your statement about my blind faith in LE gave me pause and I questioned myself if I truly was placing too much faith in LE. Perhaps part of me does have a great deal of blind faith in LE and that can be a very dangerous thing. Honestly they have not shown me anything that proves what they say is true. But I also understand why they cannot put it all out there and I must respect that. The things I have witnessed does seem to indicate they are on the right track and that makes me hopeful that resolution is near. But I do appreciate and am very grateful to you for the reminder that FAITH is a wonderful thing and I SHOULD have faith in LE. However, BLIND faith is dangerous and I must find a balance. So don’t envy my blind faith. Challenge me if you must and make sure that my theories and opinions are balanced and that they contain a healthy dose of fact AND faith but are not based solely on blind faith.
Thank you again for your posts and for taking the time to discuss your opinions and views on this case with me!
Just checking in to see if the Tommy/Lindsy video jail recording done after Tommy took his ldt had been released yet? The one sillygirl spoke of ..
Cj – I think EVERYONE is waiting for that one….not sure what the hold up is.
Hello everyone just checking in to see if there is anything new.
I finally got a chance to listen to Sundays show and it was really great! Happy belated birthday Jan. Thank you both very much for all you do.
Hey LFJ! How are you? Haven’t gotten to chat with you much lately! Miss ya! Hugs! 😀
HUGS to you too JB!! Doing well.
JB are you a member of the forum? I went to the forum today and saw a really great theory posted by Native Alien.
stormgardner said,
in May 26th, 2010 at 10:18 pm
Homespain said: OMG That did it, I laughed so hard i barely made it…. I can see it now. Lets photocopy a picture of the twins with the ears on them and put them on the ireport place instead of your face reporting a story.
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That would have to be one of the funniest things ever. Can you imagine being able to capture the look on her face when she sees her adorable twins?
Well, better not, Lisa might think her baby boys Timmy & Tommy were on televison. Lol
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Oh so precious Stormgardener!
Well you have ask yourself if Lindsy was so sure Tommy was where she said he was why would she doubt him? We know she got home at around 10 so is she sure about where he was after 10 and not before? What about the LE at Tyler that night?She knows something or she wouldnt go off on him and threaten divorce. jmo
JillF said,
in May 26th, 2010 at 10:07 pm
Homespain – “She’s drunk with power and self righteousness” Spot on description of Nancy Grace!
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Thanks JillF
I watched NG last night and was surprised that NG herself actually was questioning the reason Ron married Misty. I also wonder if Marc Klaas is suspecting Ronald?
Chakra7 said,
in May 26th, 2010 at 11:39 pm
MeMeMel- all good points, I also beleive Ron shows the classic signs of an abuser, and was very controlling to everyone in his life
In Florida you are able to testify against your spouse even if your married although they can not force you to.
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chakra meMeMel- with you on that to. Good job MeMemel
I wonder why NG hasn’t put out the bombshell
With those pictures of Lindsy Croslin picture.
That is odd for her.
Marc Klaas is definitly questioning Ron and NG was mad about it too. She actually said whats that got to do with it when Mark said Ron used Misty for babysitting and used young girls for sex. Well NG it has alot to do with it and the drug use too. Too bad the gun wasnt brought up and his behavior with it. I think NG is going to be back pedaling for saying a lot. Or she will just move on around it like she did with the drug use. jmo
jaba said,
in May 27th, 2010 at 12:28 am
And don’t forget misty admitted to some of the charges.
Saw it on ngrace of all places. misty is on jail tape saying it.
And I still wonder why one would want to warn misty about snitched in jail. If she’s innocent , what could she say to a snitch, unless she did know something and it would help solve the case. Odd position to take but I’m sure there is a good reason.
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Good point JABA
Except…… she’s already written letters, been on the phone with family, is on LE video on the drug sting, been on national shows talking and talking, taken lie detector tapes etc and pretty much has done herself in already.
Snitches- well they may tell the truth but they lie lie lie too. Unless you get something like “I did something to Haleigh and this is what happened” on tape or video, don’t know if it really will make any difference at this point.
Had she kept her mouth shut from day one, regarding the above paragraph, then yea not talking to others in jail at all would have been in her best interests.
Do we know if ron had any sort of life insurance on Haleigh? Or if anybody did?
Tobias, NG really did get upset as Marc was saying those things. I agree she will be back peddling as well. I think though she will admit it. NG has stuck right beside Ron since this all began. NG told Marc ” so you do not agree with his life style?”. NG needs to be honest, because I am sure she does not either. If this had been a single mom she would not have been so sympathetic!
LFJ – Nope…not a member of the forum….can you post the theory here or give us a summary? I just LOVE theories! LOL Bring it on sista’! 😀
It was Ron that was warned about having a snitch with him in jail, not Misty.
I always wondered too if he married her so he could get info out of her why divorce her when she still hasnt told? And LE wouldnt tell him to divorce or marry her thats just plain crazy.
Ron has said alot of differing reasons why he did it. So she wouldnt leave Florida, so he could get info out of her,and to keep his enemies closer. Does this mean he thinks she is the enemie? An enemy that could tell on his behavior with the kids and her? Under his spell she revealed nothing about him.jmo
Tobias, can you help me out? I am not good at moving post from other places and putting them here. Would you please retrieve the new theory of Native Aliens post, posted on 4/15/2010. It is in the forum.
CathyJo63 said,
in May 27th, 2010 at 12:07 am
wowwwww,heres a video from the last day Haleigh was seen,by the guy Jerry at the bus stop,listen especially around the 3-5 min mark!!!!!!
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Hi cathyJo, reading through the comments till I get current—This video is located where-?
It seems very important in verifying Haleigh’s where about prior to Ron leaving to work.
Also—-the air conditioner repair man that was there at the MH, I do not recall what time he was there- any one know?, but if Haleigh was home after school that would be interesting to hear what his observations about that day were.
i find it very curious how he has laid low- don’t blame him really. but by now you’d think there’d be something out there about what he observed while there.
And why does she need to prove her love for him with the tattoo? Why did Ron care if she loved him and he could trust her? Trust her with what? If Misty did something she would be the one wanting Ron to prove he trusted her, that she was telling the truth. Not the other way around. jmo
Hspain,
The snitch comment was referencing a poster who regrets not calling misty in jail to warn her of snitches. To me that sounds counteractive to finding an answer to Haleighs disappearance. Imo anyway.
You are soooo right Tobias. Ron divorcing Misty totally contradicted his reason for marrying her. I think Rons spell is beginning to weaken on Misty.
TrotlineDesigns said,
in May 27th, 2010 at 4:52 am
@robin said,
in May 26th, 2010 at 12:39 pm
How many times did Crystal look for her missing daughter?
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Robin, I have many addicts in my family (something to be proud of isn’t it) and they are all what I call defeatist meaning that they give up quickly when something isn’t going their way. Look at the Hope Sykes case for example: The quickest fix for her was to rush to a plea deal. Ronald folded pretty quickly in his case too. I would guess that it was easier for Crystal to just take that same defeatist attitude and assume her daughter was dead. That way she could have it behind her and she could continue with her drug use.
Just my opinion though.
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That makes allot of sense Trot
Tobias you are right again!
A/C guy was to be there at 5pm.
CathyJo, here is the info of where to write to Misty:
Inmate Mail:
*Mail may be addressed to the inmate at 3955 Lewis Speedway, St Augustine, Florida 32084.
*All mail will be processed daily, Monday – Friday (excluding holidays).
*Inmates must send or receive all mail through the facility mailing system. It should be noted all mail will be searched and scanned prior to delivery to the inmate.
*Inmates can not receive cash in the mail. Personal checks and cash (along with the letter) will be returned to the sender with a note of explanation that the St. Johns County Detention facility will not accept either by mail.
*Unauthorized packages addressed to an inmate, either through U.S. Mail, private delivery service, etc., or brought to the front lobby will not be accepted. These items will be refused and marked “return to sender”. Any approved items not normally issued by the facility may be purchased from the Canteen.
*All items received through the mail that is contraband, unauthorized, (i.e. hard back books, items that can be purchased through canteen such as envelopes and stamps) will be returned to the sender in its entirety. A note of explanation that the inmate cannot receive these items will be included. The inmate shall be notified in writing when incoming or outgoing letters are rejected.
*Any incoming mail containing photographs, drawings or cartoons displaying nudity or sexually graphic content will be returned to the sender. No mail will be retained which is in an unsanitary condition, i.e., contains any type of body fluids, unidentified odors (i.e. perfume, body spray, etc), secretions, residue, hair or any other component of the human body or animal. Any types fitting this description will be destroyed.
Address it to:
SJSO Inmate: CUMMINGS, MISTY JANETTE
Inmate Number: SJSO10MNI002273
3955 Lewis Speedway
St Augustine, Florida 32084
Hollys Gmom said,
in May 27th, 2010 at 6:30 am
JenM
I like your thoughts on the DID matter only that the symptoms your described are more in line with Schitzophrenia then Borderline Personality Disorder or Disassociative Identity Disorder. The deciding factor usually is that the Schitzo affective personalities rarely know what each other are doing, while the DID or BPD patient never loses consciousness or is unaware of what they have done, seen, heard ect. Schitzo affective has more than one “person” while the other two diagonsies are only “one” person who has severe mood shifts or only mirror the emotions & beliefs of those around them at any given moment… JMO
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Holly,
Can’t say I agree with your conclusions in or the descriptors you utilized relating to the disorders.
That’s ok , we can all believe what we want.:)
Psychiatrists do it all the time. See the same person or symptoms, or behaviors, and disagree as to what it means or what diagnosis it. pertains to.
With Ron and family all saying such glowing things about Misty how could she just open up and tell all the bad things about Ron? She was in love with him and now his family was giving her what she has always wanted LOVE and protection. They were not really protecting her though and she fell for it. I think she is really just now putting it all together and she will be opening up more about good ol Ronnie soon. jmo
I am just glad Misty is realizing that she was being used.
Tobias did you see my post to you about the Forum?
clong said,
in May 27th, 2010 at 7:44 am
I noted on Find a Grave NG’s former fiance’ WKG is posted with a photo of him & Nancy. In my opinion, he shows a striking resemblance to RC.
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Very interesting observation Clong. Don’t need a professional psych license to figure out what that means.
I am a member but I dont remember my password. I will have to search for it .
Thank you , Tobias
tobias said,
in May 27th, 2010 at 10:56 am
Well you have ask yourself if Lindsy was so sure Tommy was where she said he was why would she doubt him? We know she got home at around 10 so is she sure about where he was after 10 and not before? What about the LE at Tyler that night?She knows something or she wouldnt go off on him and threaten divorce. jmo
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Logical conclusion- and on the phone call from jail, Tom me is talking to Gramma Flo Hollars , and Lindsey yells out “did you do it?” referring to Haleigh.
Cricket said,
in May 27th, 2010 at 11:04 am
I wonder why NG hasn’t put out the bombshell
With those pictures of Lindsy Croslin picture.
That is odd for her.
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Wonder why too, except that ireport article was up on CNN and the Lyndsey photo’s as well,…. and then suddenly disappeared….. Maybe a lawyer said there was a liability issue I’m guessing.
mistys ron stories would be something else, I bet.
She is figuring things out, she has a somewhat clear mind and has had hours and hours to think it through.
Does anyone know anout mistys vacation trips? I remember seeing her interviewed at some airport. Don’t know if that was a ‘today show’ trip or a disney world trip. Do we know who paid for the florida vacation?
tobias said,
in May 27th, 2010 at 11:05 am
Marc Klaas is definitly questioning Ron and NG was mad about it too. She actually said whats that got to do with it when Mark said Ron used Misty for babysitting and used young girls for sex. Well NG it has alot to do with it and the drug use too. Too bad the gun wasnt brought up and his behavior with it. I think NG is going to be back pedaling for saying a lot. Or she will just move on around it like she did with the drug use. jmo
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I find it interesting that Mark Klass is giving her some lip in the form of bringing up Ron. He know’s it irritates her. She’s treated Klass poorly, and her outrageous behavior will come back on her. It’s spinning out of control to the point that even CNN will say something to her.
Her bad behavior, and viewer complaints can actually fuel ratings, but at some point on a graph, there are declines in viewership to the point that even sponsors of ads will decline spots on her show
Then she’ll have to either restrain herself or be done.
There’s a youtube that says Tim Miller paid for her fla vacation
looking for Justice said,
in May 27th, 2010 at 11:29 am
A/C guy was to be there at 5pm
Thanks Tobias- I’d guess then the police can probably take his statements and ascertain that Haleigh was alive at that time with certainty.
jaba said,
in May 27th, 2010 at 11:19 am
Hspain,
The snitch comment was referencing a poster who regrets not calling misty in jail to warn her of snitches. To me that sounds counteractive to finding an answer to Haleighs disappearance. Imo anyway.
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Yea I read that, and saw his response to you. So I was referencing all that together:)
JanM
At 16 I was pretty much like Misty was physically
and mentally abused, I don’t have clue as to why
my parents treated me different so did my siblings so at 16 I got married to man that
that was just like parents. I reacted just like
Misty crying one minute angry the next. I only lied to my parents 1 time growing up but was accused of it every time I opened my mouth.
But I didn’t choose to lie to them anymore. I wanted to be their perfect daughter, maybe then they’d love me.
everyone that I came into my life learned
real quick that could treat the same needless to say I never trusted anyone but always gave people the benefit of doubt. It took me a long time to let go of the crap,
more than 1 head doctor plenty of in house
treatment even with that it took me for ever
so I can relate to Misty. And I never was violent person, I just don’t think she has multiple
personality disorder.
Just reacting to the way people in her life treated her.
homespain, We do not know what the A/C guy attested to. I heard at one time that this person said they did not see Haleigh. I read this on a post so I cannot take any real credibility from it. To my knowledge nothing has been reported on this a/c person.
inmates cannot receive calls..
obviously the warning would have been before the arrest.
in May 26th, 2010 at 10:03 pm
robin: It’s going to very interesting to see just what the legal issues with the Duckett case do to good ole’ NG’s career.
There was another female that had a daytime formatted show that was sued by a family over a suicide, I can’t remember her name…..What’s that tell you?
Good night, have fun………
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Jaba, – “To me that sounds counteractive to finding an answer to Haleighs disappearance. Imo anyway.”.
You are right about that… and when I wrote my post and agreed with your point, should have state this is what I agreed with specifically. Your point being this is about Haleigh and finding out what happened to her.
The other commenter goes from the assumption always, that that Misty is innocent and someone will hurt her if she shares things with other people in jail. Like you said, if you haven’t done something what does it matter.
And again, my following points expand on that idea that Misty pretty much didn’t follow simple prudence and shut her mouth. Which even her own lawyer asked her to do.
Like if someone calls her and warns her about snitches she’d have listened. Heck, she and Ron used to talk about the subject all the time, she knows what they are.
Thx Becky.:)
I guess that was part of the get close to her idea.
Where was it that she got robbed buying drugs and where arm was hurt?
jaba said,
in May 27th, 2010 at 11:52 am
mistys ron stories would be something else, I bet.
She is figuring things out, she has a somewhat clear mind and has had hours and hours to think it through.
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yup
The 17-year-old former stepmother of missing Satsuma, FL girl Haleigh Cummings was robbed Monday while at a Palatka apartment complex with two other women. One of the women told police they were there to buy drugs.
Palatka police said Misty Cummings, freshly divorced from Halleigh’s dad, Ronald Cummings, was robbed by two or three men about 8:15 p.m. at the Ragsdale Apartment Complex on Moody Road in Palatka.
Police said her purse was stolen and she received minor injuries.
One of the other women, age 18, drove off with Cummings. The third woman, age 22, ran off on foot and later told police that the three went to the apartment
Thank you LadySadie!!!!! jain info!
sommin new with Misty???? i saw your subject,lol
whered everybuddy go,I did take a shower,i promise?????
I am here Cathy just dont have much to say just wished one of them would talk. Tell at least why this happened. jmo
Obviously warning a non guilty party of a snitch when there is nothing to hide makes no sense.
Warning a guilty party is an attempt to help the wrongdoer get away with something doesn’t sound like law abiding to me, imo.
Of course one who is willing to bring contrabnd into a prsion facility shows me what their mindset is.
Jaba,
Did one of those players have contraband
snuck in ?
The part Misty says about being used as a baby sitter sounds true when you see what AS says about her leaving Ron without a sitter. It came out like it was Mistys responcibility to care for those kids when they are Rons. This whole family wanted Misty to do what Ron wouldnt, be a parent. Why wasnt AS mad at Ron? jmo
I wonder if Misty left out about AS being there because they had words about her leaving that weekend? Wouldnt surprise me a bit if AS lit into her about it since Ron wasnt there. jmo
Cricket,
No it was a poster here bragging about sneaking pot into a womens prison during visits. I see that as wrong, imo.
jaba said,
in May 27th, 2010 at 12:45 pm
Obviously warning a non guilty party of a snitch when there is nothing to hide makes no sense.
Warning a guilty party is an attempt to help the wrongdoer get away with something doesn’t sound like law abiding to me, imo.
Of course one who is willing to bring contrabnd into a prsion facility shows me what their mindset is.
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Agreed Jaba- w/ all points. Mindset is clear indicator in that statemen,t as well as many other comments previously made.
Haleigh needs justice. I hope LE is looking at all angles of this, including drug deals on Ron’s side, Crystal’s side, and stranger abduction, as I fear that if none of these charactors did this thing another child will die.
I lived in Iowa, one block from where Johnny Goach was kidnapped. That morning I was out to the corner from where he disappeared. I saw his wagon with the papers in it. He must have just been taken. I had two little boys at the time. My reaction to the kidnapping was perhaps irrational but I moved from that house right after. I was scared for my boys. a few months later another newspaper boy Eugene Martin disappeared.
I guess sometimes I’m surprised more families didn’t leave the Cummings neighborhood after Haleigh disappeared.
tobias said,
in May 27th, 2010 at 1:00 pm
The part Misty says about being used as a baby sitter sounds true when you see what AS says about her leaving Ron without a sitter. It came out like it was Mistys responcibility to care for those kids when they are Rons. This whole family wanted Misty to do what Ron wouldnt, be a parent. Why wasnt AS mad at Ron? jmo
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jaba said,
in May 27th, 2010 at 1:08 pm
Cricket,
No it was a poster here bragging about sneaking pot into a womens prison during visits. I see that as wrong, imo.
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Could have cost the beloved allot more jail time, and another conviction for possession.
CROSLIN LINDSY KATE Defendants
CROSLIN HANK
Date Docket Description
2010-04-28 001.CIVIL COVER SHEET
2010-04-28 002.PETITION FOR DISSOLUTION OF MARRIAGE
2010-04-30 003.SUMMONS ISSUED TO: HANK CROSLIN
2010-04-30 004.FILING FEE RECEIPT
2010-05-10 005.RTN OF SVC ON HANK CROSLIN SVD 05/03/10 DUE 05/23/10
2010-05-10 DEFAULT AVAIL 05/28/10
2010-05-10 006.RESPONSE TO SUMMONS : HANK CROSLIN
We should know soon if she plans on going through with this. jmo
Jaba
it happens all the time , the guards must not
do thier jobs.
robin: It’s going to very interesting to see just what the legal issues with the Duckett case do to good ole’ NG’s career.
There was another female that had a daytime formatted show that was sued by a family over a suicide, I can’t remember her name…..What’s that tell you?
Good night, have fun………
It was Jenny Jones. Where they brought a guy on to have him meet his secret admirer who just happened to be another male.
homespain said,in May 26th, 2010 at 11:56 am Kristie said,
in May 26th, 2010 at 11:37 am
HOMESPAIN Anyone? I just wanted to make one more comment on Alecia Dunbar- this is from her myspace page and I found it to be very interesting as she is trying to get info from ronald.
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Kristie, thanks for getting that to me.
That entry is the opposite of what winterrose said last night when she was lOL repeatedly in her comment at the misinformation about her.
Pretty confusing, but gives credence to why there is confusion.that ilooks like more what I saw on the current facebook. the video seen of her w/ Joran sts. her love for him makes me really wonder about her though. Incidentally the same with Ron recordings.
Sure would like a link to those so I can see for my self.
Hi homespain- I put all the links above- I did find more stuff after that so let me know if your still wanting it.
Homespain – sorry I saw an older message see u already got all the info.
🙂
homespain said,in May 27th, 2010 at 11:33 am
YOu’re probably right…my descriptors sucked…LOL I am diagnosed as BPD due to extreme trama(s) in childhood. I do not have SAD/Schitzo as my brain scan does not match for one and I have never expecienced a “black-out” or exeperienced another personality take-over. (So to speak) There are probably more reasons that seperate..I have however experienced severe mood shifts, personality traits that change according to mood, some things people associate with Schitzo but not the loss of consciousness. I’ve never done something and been unaware of it or “woke up” somewhere that I couldn’t remember what had happened or how I had gotten there. I truely think Misty suffers from PTSD and maybe even BPD…Schitzo still a possibility but unable to hold accountable for actions.
Watch this old video back when Misty did the stress voice analysis test. At some point a reporter is showing Tommy and Lindsey the script of what Misty said. During the last time that Lindsey is speaking you see Tommy shaking his head. It looks to me like he is in deep thought, and looks concerned. If Misty is partly responsible for hiding Haleigh then boy is she telling some whoppers, and no wonder she failed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYvGRH1suuI&hl=en
What are your reactions to this old news report knowing what you know now?
Shows Tommy at about 1:18 on the video above.
My link was removed but below is the title of the video and you guys can go to you tube and plug in that title.
“Haleigh Cummings:Misty Cummings says her brother Hank Jr. took Haleigh”
Anyway, at about the 1:18 mark Tommy is seen shaking his head and it looks to me like he is concerned, and really far away in thought. What do you guys think?
Well, now the link is back. So, just click on the link above.
Now I don’t know if the link will stay or go, so this final comment on the link should suffice:
It’s back. It’s gone again. It’s back. It’s gone again. It’s back. It’s gone again. It’s back. It’s gone again. It’s back. It’s gone again. It’s back. It’s gone again. It’s back. It’s gone again. It’s back. It’s gone again. It’s back. It’s gone again. It’s back. It’s gone again. It’s back. It’s gone again. It’s back. It’s gone again. 🙂
Letter Obtained in Marie Griffis Myspace
says Haleigh was taken to Tim Miller By Hank Croslin SR
http://comment.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewComments&friendID=482562836
Jan 23, 2010 12:20 PM
I remembered this bulletin after the felony drug trafficking charges leveled against Ronald Cummings,Misty Croslin and 3 others’…..Makes you wonder…
This article is from November 2nd,2009
TJ Hart
RAW AUDIO: TIM MILLER AND TJ HART
http:../../..hosted-..media…podzinger…com/..ws
ky/..archive/..WSKY_..News/..2009-..09-..02_..Tim_..
Miller_..35K_Calls.mp3
There is another bizzare turn of events in the disappearance of 6-year old Haleigh Cummings. The father Misty Croslin-..Cummings, Haleigh’s babysitter-now stepmom who was supposed to be watching the child the night she disappeared, left a strange message on the phone of Texas Equusearch Director Tim Miller claiming Ronald Cummings needs $35,000 to get the child back!
Recently Tim Miller with Texas Eqqusearch was asked to once again help search for the child. Two weeks ago, Misty Cummings asked Miller to arrange a polygraph to clear her of suspsicion since police had publicly said her stories of the night in question are inconsistent.
Misty failed both the polygraph and a voice stress test. She is now saying she was duped into taking the tests.
On August 28th, Misty Cummings’ father, Hank Croslin Sr., left a voicemail message for Miller claiming Ronald Cummings told him “If I had $35,000, I could have Haleigh back.”
AUDIO: Hank Croslin Sr.’s Voice Message
http:../../..hosted-..media…podzinger…com/..ws
ky/..archive/..WSKY_..News/..2009-..09-..02_..hank_c
all.mp3
Miller sought the help of a fellow Texan and friend of Millers, Roy Moffitt of Roy Moffitt Customized Fueling Inc.. Moffit has since written a check to Ronald Cummings for $35,000 payable upon the safe return of Haleigh.
The Sky’s TJ Hart asked Miller what exactly the $35,000 was for. Miller said he was only concerned about getting missing Haleigh back and that he “didn’t give a damn.”
Hart now has in his posession and
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