We will be running our regular look back on the last seven days in the search for Haleigh Cummings. It has been another busy week with more jail recording being released of Ronald Cummings, Misty Croslin, Tommy Croslin, and Donna Brock.
Do these tapes help find Haleigh? In a word no. What these tapes do reveal is the type of people that Haleigh was being brought up around.
It is clear that these miscreants are all about ‘ME, ME, AND MORE ME’.
The biggest disappointment in the tapes that were released was that the audio quality of the Donna Brock conversations is so poor as to render them useless other than the 18 seconds that Nancy Grace played ad-nauseum this week.
Here we are days later and I can honestly say that we have still not gone through all of the material in any real depth. The one thing that is very clear though are that there are some very curious dynamics at work between the players.
The Croslin’s seem particularly fractured and at each others throats. I am sure that HLN have copies of the DVD’s yet they seem to be leaving this aspect well alone. I wonder why? The dynamics between between Hank, Tommy, and Misty are a thing of amazement.
On Friday TJ Hart and I decided to run one of our ad-hoc sessions, our plan was to talk about the content of the DVD’s that were released. We both received a request from William Cobra Staubs asking that we include him in the program. Both TJ and I class Bill as a good friend and we did include him in the program. I know that some people did not agree with our decision, and indeed it did mean that we were unable to cover some of the aspects of the released tapes that we had hoped to, I feel that I should defend my decision.
Bill knows as much if not more about the first few days of the case than anyone other than the PCSO. He knows all of the players, even those far out on the edges. I do not always agree with Bill in his choices of technique, but I do know that he usually is on the right track.
Bill is frustrated, his appearance on Friday’s program does not signal his reinsertion into the case. In my opinion he needed to blow off some steam, and I offered the venue. Both Jan and I were saddened by some of the comments and emails received. Bill is not the enemy, the enemy is whoever took Haleigh Cummings!
Our panel tomorrow will be Simon and Jan Barrett, the the News and Programming Director for WSKY 97.3 out of Gainsville Florida TJ Hart, the Crime Doctor – author and crime writer Denny Griffin, and investigative journalist Levi Page.
We have loads to talk about, so this is going to be a very busy program. To listen in just point your browser to www.blogtalkradio.com a few minutes before 3pm central and you will see the link to the live feed on the main page.
Simon and Jan Barrett
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Follow-up comment rss or Leave a TrackbackLooking forward to the show Simon, BUT, please don’t let Corbra come in again and monopolize the shows time slot ☺
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please let cobra blow off steam on levi page’s show..thats were the sensationalizm is at.
“Bill” may not be the enemy or who took Haliegh, but talk about a ME, ME and More Me person….geeez, the case gets focused on everyone but Haleigh. Enough already. (sorry if that saddens you, but facts are facts.
Thanks Simon and Jan, I can’t wait for the show! Hang in there Cobra! You’ve done so much in the search for Haleigh. More of us appreciate it than not…believe it!
I totally agree, methinks!
I took the time to listen to the Audio for myself of Ronald he clearly states the Judge told him “Jason” that she intends to prosecute to the fullest and give Misty the full 114 years, this according to Ronald
Ronald was not busted because of Misty. Ronald was busted because Ronald got up that day, and during that day made choices upon his own free will, and with his own mind, the choice was to sell drugs. He was not helping find Haleigh during that time frame he was selling drugs.
To work on finding Haleigh he could of pretended to be back with Misty and take her to a movie and be all loving. Ms.Neves is and has had a lot happen but playing that tune is beyond enabling it’s delusional.
Nancy Grace is vile and manipulative. IMO It is with audacity she speaks about having positive role modelling for children, she is far from that.
Tommy Croslin needs to come clean about that night and his story, if he did not go there he needs to admit that. That story is what has caused him to be targeted he needs to get honest if he does not do it then one of his family needs to, Hank SR,the brother Timmy, Lindsy. Not addressing it may help in sending their Misty to prison for life, if he is not telling the truth Misty, Haleigh all her families, and LE deserve the truth.
Police missed something here but I know innocent I have been face to face day in day out with a masterful manipulator and I am 100% positive Misty is telling the truth.
God Bless Haleigh and all her families
why was my post moved? I was 1st!
OJ’s glove, yes you were 1st, xfiles post just popped up there within the past hour. Isn’t that strange, like his had been hung up all evening.
Just a curiosity question, why would you pick that name for your blog name?
treece said,in February 13th, 2010 at 10:04 pm OJ’s glove, yes you were 1st, xfiles post just popped up there within the past hour. Isn’t that strange, like his had been hung up all evening.
Just a curiosity question, why would you pick that name for your blog name?
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treece, I’ve wondered the same thing, lol.
Could it be that OJ’s glove “didn’t fit”? Like maybe implying something doesnt fit? I have no clue; just guessing?
keepitreal, lol, good theory.
Levi Page from Dover, Tn is a Journalist????
Cobra, I think you are the reason this case got national attention you got involved and dug and dug some more… I think you are a sincere person, and appreciate all that you did… You need to rid yourself of the anger and focus on the future..you have much to offer… and Simmon sometimes we need to let friends vent and you did. As for the people in this case, we are dealing with drug heads, and that is not an easy thing to contend with.
I’d rather hear Cobra rant about his effort’s than hear AH whining!
LoL@Keepitreal
This waiting game sucks!!
CathyJo63 said,in February 13th, 2010 at 11:01 pm This waiting game sucks!!
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I agree, Cathy!
I’m wearing myself out just looking to see if those tapes are ready yet, lol
thank you for acknowledgeing I was first..
obviously some here have more juice than others..cobra for example, hes all innocent and gets his airtime..hmmm I notice hes now referred to as “bill”.. interesting.
Me too Kir,
good thing we don’t have to go up and down stairs looking,i’d be dead now!lol
Look at the top of the page,get us all curious and leave us hangin’lol
like a little tiny mouse with a ton brick of cheese!
Croslin’s seem particularly fractured and at each others throats. I am sure that HLN have copies of the DVD’s yet they seem to be leaving this aspect well alone. I wonder why? The dynamics between between Hank, Tommy, and Misty are a thing of amazement.
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Stop taunting us!!!!!
Dang,what the hell?? Why is everybody’s panties in a bunch over Cobra..Heck atleast he was searching and trying to get to the truth but evidently nobody wanted the truth in Satsuma!
Sorry.was just thinking out loud!
DustyRose said,in February 13th, 2010 at 9:15 pm I took the time to listen to the Audio for myself of Ronald he clearly states the Judge told him “Jason” that she intends to prosecute to the fullest and give Misty the full 114 years, this according to Ronald
Ronald was not busted because of Misty. Ronald was busted because Ronald got up that day, and during that day made choices upon his own free will, and with his own mind, the choice was to sell drugs. He was not helping find Haleigh during that time frame he was selling drugs.
To work on finding Haleigh he could of pretended to be back with Misty and take her to a movie and be all loving. Ms.Neves is and has had a lot happen but playing that tune is beyond enabling it’s delusional.
Nancy Grace is vile and manipulative. IMO It is with audacity she speaks about having positive role modelling for children, she is far from that.
Tommy Croslin needs to come clean about that night and his story, if he did not go there he needs to admit that. That story is what has caused him to be targeted he needs to get honest if he does not do it then one of his family needs to, Hank SR,the brother Timmy, Lindsy. Not addressing it may help in sending their Misty to prison for life, if he is not telling the truth Misty, Haleigh all her families, and LE deserve the truth.
Police missed something here but I know innocent I have been face to face day in day out with a masterful manipulator and I am 100% positive Misty is telling the truth.
God Bless Haleigh and all her families
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How did you hear this one??….LoL Dang I’m dying over here!Got a link somebody,anybody,nobody?????? LoL
Alright…fine,I’ll be the one out in the barn with a noose around my neck and hopefully the tapes will come first!!!! lmbo! Shoot we need funny sometimes!
CathyJo63 said,
And Josh — what`s his name, Jason? This is the only thing. We`re not going in front of a Putnam County judge, we`re going over here. Judge Berger is a woman. Jason said she is going to give Misty the whole 114 years.
It’s about a quarter way down the page.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1002/12/ng.01.html
The tape in it’s entirety goes on more about her telling Jason and then him telling Ronald bla bla all a bunch of mind games that is never going to find Haleigh because who ever did this it’s not Misty. This is LE final hour they will not solve it, God will.
to, dustyrose: i tend 2 agree with u, i do not beleive this case will b solved by focusing on misty,if she knew something i believe that she would have slipped up by now.and u r right about ronald 2, he certainly was NOT looking 4 haleigh while he was out selling drugs with misty.And,little haleigh defenitly will not b found by sending someone like donna brock in2 find out what happened 2 her either,someone with as many issues of her own as the rest of them!!!!!all this has done nothing but taken time & focus off what really matters, finding haliegh.they should ALL b prosecuted 2 the fullest 4 this. its sad when u realize just how little that child must mean 2 Any of them.
SO true…..
SWEET SALLIE said,in February 14th, 2010 at 6:14 am
they should ALL b prosecuted 2 the fullest 4 this. its sad when u realize just how little that child must mean 2 Any of them.
I believe they loved Haleigh and Jr., but drugs were clouding their judgment. You don’t just start using cocaine a couple of times and never pick it up again. Yes, they were busted for Oxycontin, but other drugs were also relevant in their lives. What’s sad, is that drug users tend to have babies, because recreational drug use leads to careless sexual relationships. They were well intended to have the children and try to take care of them; however, they should have cared enough about the children to let someone else raise them when they realized they could not, or they should have changed their lifestyle completely in the name of “unconditional love” for the children.
The thing is the only drug dealing that we know of is the ones they got charged with.
You have to realize that this was going on prior and previously that they did not get caught, this was how they were getting all the money and drugs for their own use. And they would still be doing it right now if they werent in jail. Everyone wants drug dealers off the streets why are they different? jmo
Also if you listen to them when they talk about being in the paper, on the news and on Nancy G. They act like the are celebraties, hey everyone knows us Misty even thinks she going to get a national apology when Haleigh is found. Their behavior makes me sick. Everyone of them. jmo
tobias, I would agree that is how it would appear. That just doesn’t jel with how would Ron have passed his drug tests at work. Heavy equipment operators have a higher standard of alertness and can’t work on drugs. Normally HEO have more random drug test then the norm.
If he had a prescription for the oxy then the company would put him on a different job which they did. Remember they said he was working at a different position, he took them for a supposed back problem, but he is addicted as we can now see. jmo
HAPPY VALENTINE’S DAY EVERYONE!!!!!!!!
Also Oxy only stays in the body for 6 hrs. and is released through urination. Like alchohol he could use it when he was not at work just made sure it was 6 hrs. before work. jmo
No, it isn’t clear to me that he is addicted. I have seen no sign of addiction in Ron. What have I missed?
Where is the info that Ron was working a different position due to taking prescription drugs? I understood that he worked late that night because they needed a crane operator due to a late running schedule in transport. Is there new info that changes that?
Where is the info that oxy only stays in system for 6 hours?. I don’t think that is accurate.
Actually, Tobias, we do not know that at all.
What was M doing – when she was mugged and her purse stolen – in a neighborhood known for where you could buy drugs? I’m sure she was NOT the supplier there. Just another druggie looking for some dope for herself and friends.
And those parties she went to? I’m sure she traded you know what for drugs rather than money. Where did the people at the “binge party” get their drugs? I doubt it was R. Maybe M. More likely someone else.
And according to T, when M said she wanted a roxy for somebody he didn’t have any so he went to some guy he knew. Is that guy in jail? If not, why not?
It’s entirely possible that DB was able to bring them into the illegal Rx business.
We don’t know.
I don’t know what you mean about “why are they different?”
The only thing different is that LE decided to target them and trap them with an UC and waited for M’s 18th birthday to do it. Otherwise I seriously doubt that these people were anywhere near the top of the list of drug dealers in that area that LE would normally want to catch.
Not that arresting anyone selling drugs is a bad thing. It’s just that in this case it’s so obvious why THESE people were targeted WHEN they were targeted (no matter what LE would like us to think). Oh, and I wonder if whoever “gave” C that “Loritab” is in jail? That’s illegal, too, you know. Even if it was that person’s Rx. But no. I’m sure LE can’t be bothered with that small potato. Just THESE small potatoes.
Also during withdrawl you get phantom pain, like his tooth. Or he was just hoping to get something to help with the withdrawls. Thats why its all me me me, they are in withdrawl and the only thing they care about is the drugs.jmo
Tobias, you are once again ASSuming one heck of a lot. Even that R is addicted. There is no evidence of that. But go on. Don’t let me stop you spewing your wicked tales. Nothing has so far or ever will I expect.
Tobias, you are so mistaken. The withdraw from whatever degree any of them were addicted is long over. There is no phantom pain. If any of them are having withdraws of any kind it would just be mentally wanting the drug. The body is long passed any withdrawal at this point.
Oxy’s stay in the system approx 5-7 days in urine test depending on how much was taken, how much the body has been flushed and the body size.
M2C, No one forced any of these people to do anything they were nt willing to do. Whether it was LE or not makes no difference. They are and have been drug dealers.And Crystal would have been busted also if she was doing it too.
LE more than likely had their eye on her too.
Misty wasnt busted for buying the first time so why would they bust Crystal for getting a friends loritab? jmo
tobias said,in February 14th, 2010 at 12:06 pm Also if you listen to them when they talk about being in the paper, on the news and on Nancy G. They act like the are celebraties, hey everyone knows us Misty even thinks she going to get a national apology when Haleigh is found. Their behavior makes me sick. Everyone of them. jmo
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Guilty or innocent of whatever, they are just trying to fight back and they are too uneducated to know how to do it. You will notice NG just used it to make more hay. She sure does like to stir the pot! But they’ll keep coming back for more! Too bad. There are some people you would have to be next to Jesus for them not to get you. Just my opinion.
Althea, the tapes I am interested in seeing are the ones of them selling to the UC. I am sure we will see those when they go to court, and they will let us know just how they act.
If they are novices or know what they are doing will be evident on those tapes. jmo
Tobias, what is your goal here? Is it just to destroy truth? Isn’t the truth about all what is needed for the sake of Haleigh??
In a matter of minutes this morning you have stated numerous rumors and lies.
oxy in system only 6 hrs
ron an addict – going through withdraws
ron faking phantom pain
ron on drugs at work
ron taken off of being a crane operator due to drugs
I don’t have a problem that we don’t agree on our theory of what happened to Haleigh.
But it is annoying that most of your post you are spewing venom that has a twisted agenda behind it that is not even based on truth.
Then ignore my posts I am entitled to my opinion just as you are and in most I have named no one go look. jmo
tobias said,in February 14th, 2010 at 12:46 pm Althea, the tapes I am interested in seeing are the ones of them selling to the UC. I am sure we will see those when they go to court, and they will let us know just how they act.
If they are novices or know what they are doing will be evident on those tapes. jmo
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Tobias, that is a very good point. I will be really interested to watch for that, because it would be very easy to jump to the conclusion that they have been doing this the whole time.
BTW, if it came down to a question of who would be more likely to make me sick, I’d pick NG over the Croslins.
Hello everyone, Last night I was watching current tv. The show was called Vanguard. They stated we here in Florida have 50 pain clinics and 33 of them are in Broward county. People are traveling from all over the U.S. to these pain clinics to get the oxycontin, roxies and xanax. The reporter went in like she was off the street and with her ink pen camera and audio captured what the recptionist had to say. You must have an MRI. It will cost you 290.00. Your first visit is 200.00. Visits after that will be 140.00. They walk out of there with 90 xanax, 180 oxycontin, 120 roxycodone. This is just from one clinic they normally visit 3 or four in a day. They return once a month. They usually get a doctor that is in retirement and has D A number to write scripts. People get these meds extremely easy.
If he had a prescription for the oxy then the company would put him on a different job which they did. Remember they said he was working at a different position, he took them for a supposed back problem, but he is addicted as we can now see. jmo
In this one you can see I said IF.
and the truth is everyone in jail is there for selling drugs or am I mistaken ? jmo
Tobias, you said, “the truth is everyone in jail is there for selling drugs”.
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According to what little info we have from LE, that is the ONE thing you said that is correct (except they’re in jail for trafficking which could be buying and/or selling).
tobias, you are stating more than your opinion. You continually state lies as truth. You tell bogus crap stating it as a fact. I know you are too intelligent not to know exactly what you are doing. You know the difference, it is a heart issue.
I will try to ignore you post, I am sorry you feel that way.
Treece, Do you really believe that Ron is not using, after all the people including Misty(who always protects Ron) has said the complete opposite? And yes before you ask Crystal is also an addict. jmo
So on THIS, you’ll believe Misty? LOL!
Of course!
Yes, I believe that Ron has used, to what degree I don’t know. What I do know is that there are no facts that state it is his fault that Haleigh was kidnapped. There are no facts that have been released that tells us who is responsible for this. I am sure you don’t remember in earlier times when I was on the band wagon defending Crystal. I think in relation to Haleigh they both need to be treated with respect as grieving parents that are victims to the kidnapping of their child. When true facts come out as to what really happened I want the guilty parties prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. In the mean time I can not assassinate either one of them based on rumor and speculation. May God please forbid that you or I either one ever have to live through anything like this but IF it happened to my son I would sure want everyone to give him the benefit of the doubt and have compassion on his pain and loss until there was some TRUE proof of what happened. Even if he had made other mistakes in his life and sometimes ranted saying dumb ass things. I would still say that does NOT mean he is responsible for my grandchild being kidnapped.
Where do you see me saying Ron did something to Haleigh? No where. If he is involved it is through his lifestyle. Now who is putting things out there that are untrue? In the above statements I was never talking about Haleigh just the drug busts. jmo
misty and ron know nothing..their lifestyle of sex, drugs and banjo music does make them responsible for haleigh missing. Misty has been made a scapegoat for law enforcements ineptitude
Tobias, I thought you were being serious in asking me a question. I know you weren’t talking about Haleigh in the “above” statements. I was referring to YOUR statements many other times. Have you ever looked at any confrontation and just taken responsibility or do you always twist it? You are really having to twist to say my above statements are untrue.
ojs glove, I agree Misty has been made a scapegoat and I don’t like that lifestyle. However, we don’t have proof that their lifestyle is why Haleigh was kidnapped. Do we?
Go back and look yourself there are no posts saying that Ron is DIRECTLY involved in doing anything to Haleigh. You say I accuse Ron of this and you are wrong. In my theory he is not even involved.Go back and look. jmo
No I did not say you accuse Ron of taking Haleigh. I say you seem to hate him and blame him that because of his choices Haleigh was kidnapped. I said you spread lies about him. That you take it past opinion of the case and falsely accuse him, just like the list I already gave you of your own accusations just this morning. I say when something comes out about Crystal you say let’s move on, get back to Haleigh. Even when it is a FACT about Crystal you don’t want it pointed out. But you work over time and go on and on about any thing you can speculate about Ron even when it’s not true. Today you keep coming back at me without really addressing any of what I have said. It is clear to me that your agenda is not TRUTH, it is biased to make Ron look bad and keep anything negative off Crystal.
Just one question and then I will leave for the day. Do people still believe that Haleigh was taken and hid by the Sheffields? And if so
why hasnt she reappeared somewhere now that Crystal has custody? Just asking for other theories and solutions .jmo
Tobias is not completely wrong about the phantom pains. The withdrawal is about 5 to 7 days, however once the drugs leave the system, any preexisting pain becomes more exagerated. This can be what tobias means by phantom pains. Why is everyone so hard on tobias? He/she is only stating an opinion. Ron is only innocent in the Haleigh situation (IMO) and doesn’t deserve to be treated with kid gloves when it comes to the drug deal.
tobias said,in February 14th, 2010 at 2:36 pm Just one question and then I will leave for the day. Do people still believe that Haleigh was taken and hid by the Sheffields? And if so
why hasnt she reappeared somewhere now that Crystal has custody? Just asking for other theories and solutions .jmo
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Yes I DO!! jmo
And I dont have to make Ron look bad he has done that all by himself. jmo
ppl that say withdrawal only physically last
5-7 days have never been thru it.FACT……
I believe that it is entirely possible that Haleigh was taken by the Sheffields,and may reappear later…much later. Boy they will have to be very crafty to pull it off though.
Tobias, I think their theory about the Sheffields being involved includes the idea that there are some “dirty cops” mixed up in it. Package deal. That seems to be part of the package. In my opinion.
one theory is haleigh was taken by a retired law officer whos daughter recently died. I hope this was investigated.
Ann, I am glad someone also feels there are other possibilities. I also hope that she is still alive and that someone has her. But I wonder who and why. Since she has not appeared after recent events, I am losing hope.And why would they put Crystal through all of this? jmo
I wish I could log in and chat during the show today, but I’m scared to. The last time I did, I ended up getting a sh#$load of viruses. I don’t think itwas because of the site or whatever but it happened and now I’m too chicken to try it, so I will just listen and read you guyses’ chat! It gets pretty hallarius in the chat room! can’t wait.
methinks, if you will read my previous post I don’t have a problem that we disagree with our theory about what happened to Haleigh. I get sick of her telling things against Ron that aren’t true. You addressed one thing that you could give her the benefit of the doubt on what about all the other things? What about all the times she has blamed Ron because Haleigh is missing. She has repeated stated how it is his fault. Why the bias and then excuse everything Crystal does?
I really don’t think Crystal took her.
I don’t know who took or killed Haleigh, but Misty is 18, now. If Ron, Misty or Tommy don’t come up with something, they are going to rot in jail for most of their lives. LE isn’t kidding around, anymore. The real gravity of their situation hasn’t struck home to them, yet. It will, awfully fast. Even their families aren’t going to keep hovering around them, while they are in jail, for long. Nobody is going to keep handing them money for treats, forever. Life goes on for people.
Pinkey, I have been through it…atleast three different times in my life! I have benn good now for a few years but I’ll never forget how horrible and physically painful it was. I don’t recommend it to anyone…so be careful what the doctor gives you, cuz’ thats where it starts.
I REALLY DON’T THINK CRYSTAL TOOK HALEIGH.AS 4 RON IDK IMO HIS ALIBI IS TOOOO AIR TIGHT.ALSO DRUGS MAKE ALL KINDS OF TROUBLE FOR PPL WHEN USING.IN EARLY INTERVIEWS RON SAID SOMEONE HAS HER AND THEY HAVE HER HIDDEN[HALEIGH].IF THAT BE SO WHYWOULD ONE CHOOSE HALEIGH N NOT JR. HALEIGH HAS TURNER SYNDROME?…AND WHY DID RON GO FROM MISTY HAD NOTHING TO DO W/ THIS TO THE BED WASNT SLEPT IN AND THERE WAS NO LAUNDY SOAP TO WASH CLOTHES IMO I SAY THAT TO SAY NOT ONLY DOES MISTY KNOW MORE BUT SO DOES RON AND HE’S THE ONE MAKING MISTY A SCAPEGOAT IF ANY ONE IS.
METHINKS BOY DO I KNOW IT’S A LIVING HELL.EXACTLY HOW MANY DAYS HAS RON N MISTY BEEN IN JAIL?HOW MANY DAYS WOULD U SAY THEY WILL FEEL ILL FROM WITHDRAWAL.
i can’t help but think ron is alittle responsible…only because he left Haleigh and Jr with misty knowing she had been drugging all weekend and then stayed up talking all night and then when she stated she didn’t feel like babysitting, he let her anyway…of course you right if you say that this hasn’t been proved other than her staement to lynsey, so who knows. and yes tobias is harder on ron but to some extent, theres reason.
Pinkey32/HUMBLED said,in February 14th, 2010 at 3:06 pm METHINKS BOY DO I KNOW IT’S A LIVING HELL.EXACTLY HOW MANY DAYS HAS RON N MISTY BEEN IN JAIL?HOW MANY DAYS WOULD U SAY THEY WILL FEEL ILL FROM WITHDRAWAL
xxxxxxxxxxx until they change their thinking toward the drugs, and/ or get more drugs in their system.IMO
Methinks, before you think anyone is being “hard on Tobias,” please understand that some of us have been here for many months and seen nothing BUT comment after comment, day after day, relentlessly hammering R for every imaginable flaw, fault and crime – including that Haleigh is missing (although Tobias does not believe he did it). Never one opportunity missed to hammer him, never even a neutral opinion, never even a non-opinion! I’ve never seen anything like it. And I have to admit I am very curious about it. Why?
Tobias, I asked you why once and I believe you said you hold him responsible because of his lifestyle and leaving the children with M that night. Right?
So are you on other boards hammering Somer Thompson’s mother into the ground for her lifestyle? For letting her children walk home from school? Are you on other blogs hammering Sarah Foxwell’s mother into the ground for temporarily dating an SO? On the same basis that you judge R’s “lifestyle” as responsible, you could hold them responsible for what happened to their children, too.
I surely hope not. But if you are going to hammer R to the extent that you do for the reason you say – then I’m very afraid that those parents and many many more fall into the same category for your total condemnation.
And I could say the same about your Condemnation of Crystal and her family.
TY Dusty @3:02 I gotta catch up!!
tobias, you could say it and that would be no shock but it is not truth. Even Jan Barrett has said that M2c tries the hardest to be fair and balanced and only state facts. She is the last person on this blog to twist things to condemn anyone and that is a fact.
shockwave said,in February 14th, 2010 at 7:57 am I believe they loved Haleigh and Jr., but drugs were clouding their judgment. You don’t just start using cocaine a couple of times and never pick it up again. Yes, they were busted for Oxycontin, but other drugs were also relevant in their lives. What’s sad, is that drug users tend to have babies, because recreational drug use leads to careless sexual relationships. They were well intended to have the children and try to take care of them; however, they should have cared enough about the children to let someone else raise them when they realized they could not, or they should have changed their lifestyle completely in the name of “unconditional love” for the children
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I agree on that one!People who do drug’s should take every precaution not to have children!
Treece,I have no idea about if he used or passed tests but I am telling you this just in general,ppl sell their CLEAN urine to druggies??
Tobias, actually you CAN’t say the same because I have not “condemned” Crystal or her family! LOL! Certainly in no way shape or form as you have Ron.
In fact, all I’ve done is (a) recognize a fact when it has become known and (b) – in counterpoint to your accusations against R – I have simply pointed out when the same could be said of the bio-mom’s side. And I would never have done that so often IF you had not attacked R so often.
For a while I just decided that every time you bashed R (for the 10th time) I’d come back with the same thing about C. But it’s clear you did not get my point.
As far as the theory that someone on C’s side might be responsible, that’s not bashing, that’s just as viable a theory as any other and one that -as I’ve said – I cling to because it’s the only one I can think of that could possibly mean that Haleigh is alive and well someplace.
treece said,in February 14th, 2010 at 12:13 pm No, it isn’t clear to me that he is addicted. I have seen no sign of addiction in Ron. What have I missed?
Where is the info that Ron was working a different position due to taking prescription drugs? I understood that he worked late that night because they needed a crane operator due to a late running schedule in transport. Is there new info that changes that?
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I have to agree with Treece here…….i don’t know how they did so well if they were addicted,i have been there and it takes atleast 2 months to even get a tone of non hatefullness back in your voice…withdrawls are hell and every call they didn’t seem to be withdrawing from anything!!
We didn’t see them withdraw but we heard them during!
Tobias,Who knows she wasn’t set up to be mugged too,so it would make national news! I do know alot of hillybilly folk..I am one of them but not one who deals or does anymore tg,but alot of them sell but don’t use.more times than not believe me!They look at it as profit and will not use too!!My Suppliers did not use and you oughta see the nice homes they have!
m2c♥ said,
in January 31st, 2010 at 7:51 am
Morning, Folks!
I had to put on my “hip-high waders” so to speak to slog thru all the manure that was spread around in here last night – thanks to Atta B, Jason, LFlorida, lingo123 etc. My gosh, you all can put out a LOT of that stinky stuff! No wonder you had to come out of your “caves” to spew. It must be downright foul in there! Lol! Try “Imodium.” I hear it really works!
I was trying to figure out why all this manure is being spewed again and then I read stg’s post @ 4:03 am which quoted the actual news report and the light bulb went on! Crystal has onlytemporary custody so far. So are Marie & Co doing what they do best? What they’re really famous for? Going on the net and spreading the dung? Or maybe there is some other reason for such deliberate hatefulness and lies?
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This was just so good I wanted to repeat it.
Repeat!!!
Is this fair ?
tobias said,in February 14th, 2010 at 12:19 pm Also during withdrawl you get phantom pain, like his tooth. Or he was just hoping to get something to help with the withdrawls. Thats why its all me me me, they are in withdrawl and the only thing they care about is the drugs.jmo
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If he were withdrawing when he wanted them he’d been screaming it in the phone Tobias,And no you don’t get phantom pain during withdrawl…..you get aches from every pore,gum,bone,hair,like having the bird flu multiplied 10000 times!
Phantom pain is when you know someone has some and you want to ask them for one then you suddenly get a phantom pain!
Changing the subject to happier thoughts.
Happy Valentines Day to Haleigh, her family, and everyone working to find her!!!! It is only about a half hour until Simon & Jan’s show. Hope everyone is warm and having a good V-day.
Selling but not using? Yes, I’ve wondered about that. Seems like it would take a particularly despicable type of person to do it.
I am not being hard on Tobias,if it were anyone of you guy’s i’d have to say the same!…i’m just stating the facts because i have withdrawn..i took 10-20 hydro’s a DAY so believe me i know!and i’m glad yall don’t know but from experience i know i can tell ya!
Pinkey32/HUMBLED said,in February 14th, 2010 at 2:51 pm ppl that say withdrawal only physically last
5-7 days have never been thru it.FACT……
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Exacty right Pinkey!
If it were that easy i’d say alot of ppl would just keep doing and quit when they want and restart…etc….cause in real life it’s something you never wanna go thru again in your life!!!!
But I for one do not believe period that any one of them were addicted and I’d thought ok..if they are addicted somebody will sing b/c that need is stronger than any other need you have……..That’s how i know!!
Cathy, I dont think you are hard on me, I was comenting on the drug test and after 5-6 days there is no sign if you havent used. Sorry if you were misled. And the phantom pain was because it was discussed that the drug can actually make you think you have pain. I t was discussed on one of the shows when Jan said her doctor gave her a script for it and she didnt use it. jmo
Cathy, I thought the same thing until I heard Misty say she and Tommy go to the med health and get things for their nerves. jmo
I don’t get a chance to say much anyone want’s or need’s to hear LoL But thats one subject i totally can relate too,If someone is worried about a loved one whose addicted or themselves or need’s to hear the cold hard truth of a druggies life,Im your gal! Because I won’t sugarcoat it not even for me,I took responsibility and hurt alot of ppl with it..not intentional but i did!And if you sugarcoat it sorry it’s useless info! IMO
tobias said,in February 14th, 2010 at 3:49 pm Cathy, I dont think you are hard on me, I was comenting on the drug test and after 5-6 days there is no sign if you havent used. Sorry if you were misled. And the phantom pain was because it was discussed that the drug can actually make you think you have pain. I t was discussed on one of the shows when Jan said her doctor gave her a script for it and she didnt use it. jmo
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OK Gotcha.lol and i wanted everyone to know i wasn’t picking at you…lol
I’ve had phantom pain when i couldn’t find what i needed and knew someone close to me had some.I got all sorts of phantom pain.lol true!
And how long it stays i have no idea about it!
Cathy, Just a question ,because of your inside knowledge, if someone was in need of some drugs real bad would they be real edgy and quick to react if someone came up behind them and scared them? I just wondered because of my theory that Haleigh may have woke and come up behind someone robbing the MH.jmo
tobias said,in February 14th, 2010 at 3:53 pm Cathy, I thought the same thing until I heard Misty say she and Tommy go to the med health and get things for their nerves. jmo
Oh I know what you’re saying now!!But in jail??I have no idea b/c theyd have had to have them in jail to even get off their cot!
BTW i was asking about in jailb/c i really don’t know…do you guys?
tobias said,in February 14th, 2010 at 3:59 pm Cathy, Just a question ,because of your inside knowledge, if someone was in need of some drugs real bad would they be real edgy and quick to react if someone came up behind them and scared them? I just wondered because of my theory that Haleigh may have woke and come up behind someone robbing the MH.jmo
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Well b/c it never happened to me i don’t know how to answer that one because it would be very hard to have the energy to get scared…literally………….it really would….it seem’s crazy i know but it’s the truth..you’d need energy even for that and another thing i wanna say is this…Pray to God this hillbilly can explain this one correctly.lol sec
CathyJo63 said,in February 14th, 2010 at 3:41 pm I am not being hard on Tobias,if it were anyone of you guy’s i’d have to say the same!…i’m just stating the facts because i have withdrawn..i took 10-20 hydro’s a DAY so believe me i know!and i’m glad yall don’t know but from experience i know i can tell ya!
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cathyjo, I don’t understand. I thought you said awhile back that you had gone thru withdrawl by yourself with sheer willpower and the way I understand it, you can do that with some things, but you can’t do that with opiates. Have I missed something? It is very hard following your posts sometimes.
Tobias, first, it is well established now that Marie & Friends DID deliberately mount a campaign of rumor and hatred toward R. That’s a FACT.
AND, whenever you and your buddies repost that comment of mine you cleverly leave out the NEXT PARAGRAPH. Which offered an alternative to the first possible explanation. The second possibility was that the slew of horrible comments were from R-haters who had fallen for all that carp and could not or would not give it up AND would not even acknowledge the newly revealed facts about C.
So, sorry. That won’t work either. There is no comparison between us, Tobias. And I pray there will never be because if I was so full of whatever drives you, it would kill me for sure.
Also, Tobias. I did not write the last part about it being so good it should be repeated. Another blogger did that.
Ok,you start out taking 1 a day,in a week or so you got to 3 a day……another week is maybe 5 a day……etc.you get me there i hope?
cause i don’t.lol
ok now you can never go back to the 1..3.or 5 a day….you need atleast those 5 to even smile at somebody uh to feel normal…Now I was taking usually 20 hydros a day..the 10’s the strongest and i had to keep taking 20 per day just to get off my couch to sweep,mop simile enjoy going to the store etc…and with 19 you can’t even do it,you are angry as hell!…you can’t do anything so i guess i am saying this…
Let’s say they are addicted and they were like me,20 per day? there is no way they could stand to talk on a phone much less have the tone of voice they had..you get me? If my family called me i didn’t answer unless i had my 20.thats the truth!!
and thats why they are so addictive,you cannot function and you need your supply to feel NORMAL!
Althea,I did with dbl pneumonia,104 fever,laid on the couch for weeks near death what did i say that confused you?????
and hows it hard to keep up with my posts,lol everybody says that and i cannot figure out why,i think maybe as i think it i type.i dunno but they did break the mold when they made me,i agree but if you tell me what i confuse you with maybe i can help!
Ohhhhhhh Althea,Hydros is an opiate but as for crack,cocaine,heroin and harder stuff i cannot even tell you anything about!!!!!!!!TG!
but had i not had a pacemaker since 1977 believe me,i would have no doubt tried it..and i dunno if this makes sense but i was born to 2 alcoholic’s which IMO gave me a very addictive personality..but b/c of my heart i didn’t dare try speed!!
Well, CathyJo, I certainly admire your determination. And the thing is, I don’t really know much about drug abuse. I just get on google and try to find out about things like that.
Now, let me get this straight. You don’t think that Ron and Misty are addicts? That they wouldn’t have been able to talk on the phone the way they did in the tapes if they were? Is that what you are saying?
Althea,Exactly,theres no way,,theyd have been puking,weak voiced,shaky,and they would never sound like they do in the tapes i have heard so far??
They sure wouldn’t give an interview and they’d hate the world,everybody and anything that moved!
They MIGHT have pulled it off if they’d only been using a few months!!
And TY Althea!!!
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Believe it or not,I did not sleep for 21 days and nights! not 1 wink!
that’s all i am saying,I don’t think for one minute they are addict’s!
And especially you guy’s,They say Ronald has a bad temper,believe me right now that if he does have anger problem’s he’d have hurt somebody by now….it increases agitation!!
alethea said,in February 14th, 2010 at 4:30 pm Well, CathyJo, I certainly admire your determination. And the thing is, I don’t really know much about drug abuse. I just get on google and try to find out about things like that.
Now, let me get this straight. You don’t think that Ron and Misty are addicts? That they wouldn’t have been able to talk on the phone the way they did in the tapes if they were? Is that what you are saying?
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I understand and when i decided to get off that crap,i read these thing’s too and oman it scared me todeath and even my dr. said I could not do it but to be honest it was worse than what i’d read about……….alot worse!That’s why I say a drug councelor has no business in that field unless they have been thru it themselves!
I’ll ley yall rest and go see the stuff i missed!LoL
Happy Valentine’s Day!!!!!!
Hi everyone,
Happy Valentine’s Day.
You know, I was lying in bed the other night and something just came to me. I’m sure a lot of others have done this as well. I still don’t think Ron is directly involved in Haleigh’s disappearance. I know a lot of people think he is, but we really don’t know the truth yet.
I was thinking about them all sleeping in the same room. I realize some families do this, but I don’t think it’s the majority.
Although I don’t post as much as some, I’ve been following this with a lot of you for almost a year. Do you think it’s possible that Ron had been threatened by someone to harm or take his children for whatever reason? Could that be why they all slept together? To protect the children? Maybe someone took the perfect opportunity to do just what they had threatened. Either Misty being gone, or totally passed out. Maybe they are still afraid of what else could happen. Maybe they are hoping who ever has Haleigh is keeping her safe, therefore that would keep them silent. Also they still have Junior to worry about. I can’t think of any other reason Ron wouldn’t talk. Other than that, I don’t think he knows anything.
Just another thought to throw out there. This is driving me crazy. I’m still back & forth with Misty. She is just so defiant. It’s her mannerisms that bother me. Then again, she is only 18, so I just can’t place blame if I’m not for sure. I do think that trouble follows that girl wherever she goes and I think she thrives on drama. There are people who just have to have constant drama or they aren’t happy.
Plausible Storm,It is so hard figuring it out!!!
It’s never seemed right from the get go to me!
In some of the interviews Misty did right after Haleigh went missing, she appeared to be under the influence of something. I never saw any of that in Ron’s interviews. But the fact is they are in jail for trafficking, not for using. They could have been dealing for quite some time before their arrests, even for quite some time before Haleigh went missing.
Misty is not telling what she should, and I can’t help but wonder why. I do not believe she harmed Haleigh. However, she should be honest about every minute of her activities that evening. She is not telling where she was and what she did, probably because she did things she does not want LE, or Ron, or whoever, to know about. I think she is not telling because she truly believes it has nothing to do with Haleigh going missing, but she really cannot know what tidbit of info might be important to the investigation.
Misty needs to come clean about where she was and what she was doing that entire evening up until the time she called 911. It may not be important; but it may be.
I think Misty has been raised really fast ya know.no time to be a kid b/c look at her parent’s!
She’s probably used to taking care of herself!!in a sense i mean!
Cathartic,Youre absolutely right,it lays on her to be honest JUST BECAUSE she was the last one responsible for Haleigh!<—–
That’s why though I don’t think she knows b/c if she did what could be worse than facing 114 yrs?
Like you too i am certain she’s lying but only about what she was doing!
My daughters here,Sorry…..bbs
Does anyone remember who the person was who first reported that Ron had said in front of her that he was a drug informant? OR is this not true? TYIA.
Tobias, @ 3:36 pm what is NOT FAIR is your posting only PART of my comment. Of course the part that suits your purpose of trying to smear me. Other people pulled the same TRICK with the SAME comment before.
Won’t work.
For anyone who’s interested, here’s the rest of my comment. It’s from BNN article 123690 Jan 31, 2010 at 7:51 am (following a night of R-haters bashing those with different views):
And don’t worry, folks. I’m done with this topic and with Tobias after this. I won’t engage with people who “manipulate” the truth(to put it as nicely as I can).
(m2c♥ continued)
“And once again, we are being distracted from the answer to “Where is Haleigh?” Is there a reason that the Crystal Camp is doing this AGAIN? Any ideas? Do they already KNOW where Haleigh is? Do they CARE?
OR maybe it is not directly related to the bio-mom’s side at all. Maybe it is just vicious hateful mean-spirited people taking their “virtual” baseball bats to strangers on the net? Could you please consider purging yourselves of such venom on some other topic? NOT one about a missing little girl? If you can’t talk politics (although you apparently don’t need to know what you’re talking about anyway), then try a site about competing football teams or who should win American Idol or whatever. Don’t dump on a site about Haleigh. Please.
Personally I think all three children (Haleigh, Jr and Chloe) are unfortunate having the parents they do. We don’t need to make it worse for them.
Now, WHERE IS HALEIGH?
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m2c…I agree with all your posts….the Ron bashing is getting way too much for me which is why I haven’t posted much the last couple of days. I too wonder why the Crystal camp has done it before and appears to be doing it again….it makes me highly suspicious of them.
In any event, I hope LE had a plan B, because locking up Ron, Misty, Tommy & Donna has apparently gotten them nowhere re finding Haleigh and I’m not surprised.
I guess if Scott Peterson had never been charged, these people would be saying, “Scott has to talk to LE and tell them the truth”, “Scott is the key”. I can’t believe LE are getting away with this blaming a 17 year old for not being able to solve a case.
Hey guy’s,My daughter came to get some movies,sorry left so fast but anyhoo i just clicked on ah site for a sec,can you believe ppl actually believe this crap?
This is a post from a comment to ah!
Art, I just listened to the Simon Barrett interview with T.J Hart and Staubs…I hope you sue Staubs (Cobra) for slander..He is a wannabe has been…He is jealous of you because you are on NG, and he sits at home stewing..Who would want that angry, hostile person around..I am glad the T.V. media outlets realize what he is, and keeps him off T.V. He is a detriment to the Haleigh Cummings case..IMO
well whoever is right or wrong about the parenting skills of these ppl…..cs has no room to talk.i will say that,and to even chance failing a drug test after all this is dumb!!!!!
actually IMO it look’s worse on cs!
CathyJo63 said,in February 14th, 2010 at 6:41 pm actually IMO it look’s worse on cs!
Posted before i was finished,hmmmmm
But if cs had been waiting as she said to regain her custody she sure has a poor way of showing it!!I think I’d have gotten my ass clean!imo it does look worse on her because she carried Chloe while on drug’s..now her child is missing and she fail’s!!
atleast Misty didn’t have any!
Well, not yet.
lol Cath,I mean to leave behind unless she is pg now!
and where she is it’ll be kinda hard to get that way!
CathyJo, my son just informs me that he read there are new detox treatments that are VERY fast. Looks like we’re all learning a lot here!
alethea said,in February 14th, 2010 at 7:05 pm CathyJo, my son just informs me that he read there are new detox treatments that are VERY fast. Looks like we’re all learning a lot here!
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wow!! Though me personally am glad it almost did me in ya know…..all the more to steer ya clear..lol
But to detox in jail or something,hmmmmm maybe that’d work!!!!!!!!!!!Alot of things are done now so who knows…well i wonder then if they had help in there????
I got clean 5 yrs ago and things do change,although i have always wondered like if someone need’s let’s say emergency surgery and they’re all drugged up i wonder what they do? Suely they can’t put them under when theyre already drugged?
LoL Aletha,I need all the edukashun i can git!
phone,brb
as i have said from day 1 Ron did do drugs and on Geraldo it was obvious he was high.His speech was slurred his entire MO said junkie.There was also pix of Ron nodded out,and in his defense his then lawyer said he was perscribed pain meds.But if u don’t abuse ya meds u build up a tolerance and the nodding stop .Ya pain is just better.Didnt we here somewhere that Ron was shootin up in his foot?If u look mback at early interviews Ron had a bandaid on his neck Crystal said she questioned him b4 and heard that he often goes in his neck.To me thats addicted if thats not addicted i dont know what is.As 2 why they didnt seem ill or in w/drawal maybe they where we only saw them 10-15 mins. at a time.when in w/drawal u r sick but can function and its not always obvious.
poor Haleigh n Jr. reading over the facts,looking back at interviews,fact n rumor this was a train wreck waiting to happen.
Ron is and was a junkie it was very obvious whn Geraldo called him out.It was also obvious that he was an IV drug user when he was all over tv with a bandage on his neck.Like junkies often do with fresh tracks.Not to mention Crystal said she’d asked b4 was he shootin in his neck WHY ASK SOMEONE SUCH A THING UNLESS THEY R ON DRUGS,and didnt it come out in court that he was shootin drugs in his foot STOLEN MORAPHINE FROM GG SYKES?Being as though we only saw them [MISTY,RON,&TOMMY] 15-20mins.here n there we wouldnt know if they were in w/drawal or not.In withdrawal one can function ur just sick and it’s often worse at night.FACT….
There are rapid detox places you can go to, but I’m sure they aren’t going to provide that type of care in jail. For one thing, it’s very expensive. The other thing is I’m sure they aren’t going to go out of their way to make any of these players comfortable. They probably anticipated they would start to suffer then possibly someone might talk. I’m just not sure what it’s going to take. It would be a shame if they are just focused on these few. I’m hoping they know more than what they are saying.
I know they say they believe it’s someone close to Ron or Misty. Let’s just hope they are looking at others as well.
cathyjo63,
yer 100% right it’s so easy to buy clean urine and alot of folks know tricks even if the test is random n monitered so they can pass.
Pinkey32/HUMBLED said,in February 14th, 2010 at 7:24 pm as i have said from day 1 Ron did do drugs and on Geraldo it was obvious he was high.His speech was slurred his entire MO said junkie.There was also pix of Ron nodded out,and in his defense his then lawyer said he was perscribed pain meds.But if u don’t abuse ya meds u build up a tolerance and the nodding stop .Ya pain is just better.Didnt we here somewhere that Ron was shootin up in his foot?If u look mback at early interviews Ron had a bandaid on his neck Crystal said she questioned him b4 and heard that he often goes in his neck.To me thats addicted if thats not addicted i dont know what is.As 2 why they didnt seem ill or in w/drawal maybe they where we only saw them 10-15 mins. at a time.when in w/drawal u r sick but can function and its not always obvious.
***********************************************PPinkey,I never said once he didn’t do’ drug’s,I said he doesn’t seem to be addicted though and withdrawls are very obvious,theres no way to hide that!Yes,i think they USED but no addiction because believe me they sure wouldn’t be the way they are and not only for a second you can’t hide withdrawls for a split second,ofcourse you could say “I’ve caught the flu somewhere!but you can’t hide it!!
Nausea,diahrea from hell,aches,pains,even your hair hurt’s!
Not to nicpic at you either Pinkey,so plz don’t take it that way but these ppl know they are being taped so they won’t alway’s speak the truth,ya knoqw??
lol true Pinkey,never thought i’d see the day you could sell pee!!!!!!And i know a person who paid 30bucks for clean pee for his work related drug test!
stormgardner said,in February 14th, 2010 at 7:41 pm There are rapid detox places you can go to, but I’m sure they aren’t going to provide that type of care in jail. For one thing, it’s very expensive. The other thing is I’m sure they aren’t going to go out of their way to make any of these players comfortable. They probably anticipated they would start to suffer then possibly someone might talk. I’m just not sure what it’s going to take. It would be a shame if they are just focused on these few. I’m hoping they know more than what they are saying.
I know they say they believe it’s someone close to Ron or Misty. Let’s just hope they are looking at others as well.
Right,I wouldn’t think so either in jail!
stormgardner
i agree it would be sad if they r only lookin at misty n the others arrested.But im thinking thats it becuz we keep hearing misty is key.onething if she isnt the key alot of time is being waisted.also i dont think she was drugged bcuz she would have been woozee when LE arrived.Plus bcuz of the test Tim Miller gave misty i think LE is really on to something,but why didnt Ron take another test too?Who knows since he lied n said misty passed her test maybe he lied about passing his test too.I dont believe nothing Ron says he’s double talked since Haleighs been missing saying anything to protect mistys lies[why]saying shes had no inconsistant statment,and as 4 him saying LE wants him to help with misty BS he hasnt helped this long,HE IS NO HELP IN FINDING HIS DAUGHTER.STOP BSIN FOR THE CAMERA…RON!!!
Right Storm,they’ve been on the m and r train for over a yr…..my God! Take another direction!!
I think Misty IS THE KEY! because she saw her last……….and Misty need’s to tell every little detail no matter how big or small!!
If she left that night,she need’s to tell what time she left,what time she returned….etc..thats why she is the key!
And I don’t know why Misty doesn’t get that,i mean really!!! She’s the only one who does know!
My pc is at a snails pace right now, so it’s hard to respond.
You guys have me curious though. How in the world do you buy clean urine? I’m not doubting it, I’m just wondering how they could do it if it was random and keep it body temperature. (sorry a little off topic)
cathyjo63
u know what i believe their drug of choice is coke a weed thats why theyre not as ill as we think they shoulda been.u may have already said but do u think Ron n Misty r involved?
cathyjo63
u know what i believe their drug of choice is coke a weed thats why theyre not as ill as we think they shoulda been.u may have already said but do u think Ron n Misty r involved?
Pinkey32/HUMBLED said,in February 14th, 2010 at 7:59 pm stormgardner
i agree it would be sad if they r only lookin at misty n the others arrested.But im thinking thats it becuz we keep hearing misty is key.onething if she isnt the key alot of time is being waisted.also i dont think she was drugged bcuz she would have been woozee when LE arrived.Plus bcuz of the test Tim Miller gave misty i think LE is really on to something,but why didnt Ron take another test too?Who knows since he lied n said misty passed her test maybe he lied about passing his test too.I dont believe nothing Ron says he’s double talked since Haleighs been missing saying anything to protect mistys lies[why]saying shes had no inconsistant statment,and as 4 him saying LE wants him to help with misty BS he hasnt helped this long,HE IS NO HELP IN FINDING HIS DAUGHTER.STOP BSIN FOR THE CAMERA…RON!!!
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LoL Point taken and i agree that it does seem he has protected her all the way but not sure if he really has? I don’t know about yall…I’m from the ole skool..lol but one thing i noticed from their wedding video was….Ron had on sunglasses the entire time?? I don’t know about you but no way…….I’d want my hubby to be to look in my eye’s as i could his during your vow’s..i mean it seemed to me he wasn’t being genuine and wore the glasses to sorta hide behind for lack of a better description!!!!!
stormgarden
some put the pee in the microwave n estmate the time its needed,by then the pee has cooled to the right temp.
i think he was hiding his bloodshot eyes lol…IDK But that was weird.
LoL Right now i could p in a cup and sell it to druggy’s because i am clean!!!!!
Ofcourse you have to keep druggy friend’s around and I don’t,I wouldn’t p for them regardless!!
hi everyone,..iv been trying to follow this case,real hard to as there are so many players,
its sad that all involved just care about their next drug hit,whos gona bail them outa jail…not wheres Haleigh?????..
Really Pinkey,the entire yr i did….god i bashed em bad…..till about a month or 2 ago it shifted for me b/c of all the detail’s related,I honestly think they were framed and it wouldn’t surprise me one bit if it weren’t them at all but someone just as close< to Haleigh!
I know. Misty was all dolled up and Ron didn’t even dress for the occasion. I realize he probably doesn’t own a suit, but wouldn’t you think he could borrow one? Or at the very least, there is always the thrift store. He didn’t look happy like she did. I haven’t really made up my mind why he married her. I at first thought he really believed her and wanted to show his support for her, especially after the way he talked to her on the 911 call. Personally, I think that’s a normal reaction to that type of situation. You would lash out at who was supposed to be caring for your child.
and if Misty knew she’d tell…..she’s 18,facing life in prison here ya know! what worse could happen!
And too i think Ron had nothing whatsoever to do with it..sure he made mistakes but harming Haleigh wasn’t one of them!
Cathy
that reminds me about 5yrs ago my old bestfriend relapsed n asked me 4 some pee it hurt me but i said no bcuz she needed help.she thought i was being holier than thou but i wasnt i just feel today i have to do things right and really stand 4 something
[me being clean]and not jepordize that 4 poor behavior,or choices.
And also Pinkey since you asked.lol what motive did they have…on the other hand look who had the only motive to do it?
Pinkey32/HUMBLED said,in February 14th, 2010 at 8:05 pm cathyjo63
u know what i believe their drug of choice is coke a weed thats why theyre not as ill as we think they shoulda been.u may have already said but do u think Ron n Misty r involved?
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True,I can’t argue with you there,I have smoked weed,but never used coke?? and you’re right the weed you don’t have withdrawl’s from..you just simply miss it!
Pinkey32/HUMBLED said,in February 14th, 2010 at 8:15 pm Cathy
that reminds me about 5yrs ago my old bestfriend relapsed n asked me 4 some pee it hurt me but i said no bcuz she needed help.she thought i was being holier than thou but i wasnt i just feel today i have to do things right and really stand 4 something
[me being clean]and not jepordize that 4 poor behavior,or choices.
LoL Good for you,see we have stuff in common,I simply say,get clean and you’ll have clean p!
u may be right at this point nothing makes sense to me.i don’t understand why misty wouldnt talk what is she waiting 4?….as 4 ron his comments and interview w/ Greta Van Susterner[sp?]just made me wonder n the way he’s protected misty.Their marriage to me was outta fear of Ron getting charged bcuz of mistys age.that 2 me wasnt a big deal.IMO
Pinkey32/HUMBLED said,in February 14th, 2010 at 8:10 pm i think he was hiding his bloodshot eyes lol…IDK But that was weird.
Did ya? LoL I didn’t b/c i thought if theyre high they both are prolly but it was Both their first times getting married and i thought,ohhhh no big boy!!!!!!!!
THATS SOOOO FUNNY BUT TRUE…GET CLEAN N U’LL HAVE CLEAN PEE, KEEP USIN N IT WILL BE DIRTY.LOL LOL
B/c Pinkey,I was mad at both of them then but i still thought he did it for a different reason.
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Storm,mine is usually slow but tg now its picked up to a turtle crawl!
I finally figured out what this has been all about….this in-fighting on Ron’s behalf. It dawned on me after reading a post by Dusty Rose yesterday.
They are all so afraid Ron is gonna catch a lethal injection in his vein. They are trying to keep this from happening to the point of no longer caring enough about Haleigh….it’s now all about saving Ron, Misty or both. Corpus Delecti…..eventually, someone will have to answer for this child’s disappearance. Whether any of us like it or not. Eventually LE WILL have to go with what they already have….maybe it’s enough. There will be a trial….it’s comming, like it or not. The only thing that will free Ron and/or Misty from this is finding Haleigh alive, well & in Crystal’s care or someone associated/related to her.
If you want to save Ron & Misty so bad then get out there and try to find Haleigh. Investigate into Crystal and why you believe she could have pulled this off. DO SOMETHING other than defend Ron & Misty on this blog! Do something constructive & legitimate. The blog will take care of it’s self. These posts will change NOTHING in regards to Ron & Misty’s actual future. If you want to help them, try to prove them innocent….try to actually find Haleigh…bullying people into NOT posting their opinions or views isn’t going to get the job done. It won’t stop the LE frieght train once it’s in motion…..JMO
stormgardner said,in February 14th, 2010 at 8:13 pm I know. Misty was all dolled up and Ron didn’t even dress for the occasion. I realize he probably doesn’t own a suit, but wouldn’t you think he could borrow one? Or at the very least, there is always the thrift store. He didn’t look happy like she did. I haven’t really made up my mind why he married her. I at first thought he really believed her and wanted to show his support for her, especially after the way he talked to her on the 911 call. Personally, I think that’s a normal reaction to that type of situation. You would lash out at who was supposed to be caring for your child.
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Right Storm,here she was in a wedding gown,they had money?? you can tell!
yet hes in those??
Tell ya a story here,in 2006 i was engaged,made all the plan’s.he was a harley lover and wore harley clothes,jewelry…all that stuff and he wanted the wedding to be harley’d up.lol
marriage is a big deal to me tho and i said,nope…suit or nuttin!! finally he agreed and i was gonna wear harley boot’s under my dress…lol but TG it didn’t happen..lol now!!!!
WELL GUYS I MUST SAY GOOD NITE HUBBY WAITING UP 4 ME…..GOD BLESS HALEIGH N FAMILY
Hollys Gmom re your February 14th, 2010 at 8:26 pm post.
I so totally agree.
Pinkey32/HUMBLED said,in February 14th, 2010 at 8:22 pm THATS SOOOO FUNNY BUT TRUE…GET CLEAN N U’LL HAVE CLEAN PEE, KEEP USIN N IT WILL BE DIRTY.LOL LOL
Right,lol I worked hard to have clean P!lOl
No Holly’s you’re right but how we gonna do that except be here trying to figure it all out!
I mean if i were rich i’d already be there!
ONE MORE THING IF rON WERE INNOCENT WHY DOES IT MATTER IF A SNITCH IS LOCKED UP WITH HIM?ALSO IF MISTY IS INNOCENT WHY DID HER SISTER IN LAW SAY NOT TO TALK ON THE PHONE ITS TAPPED?I THINK THAT COMMENT WAS MADE TO NAyNAy ON THE PHONE THE MORNING AFTER HALEIGH WAS TAKEN WHEN SHE CALLED MISTY.
Pinky: Lol,,I just got tickled at the pee comment. Sorry, I can’t imagine myself “cooking up some pee”.
We have to find a little humor somewhere I guess.
I want so bad for them to find an answer to what happened to Haleigh. There are so many scenerios that could have happened. Something stinks to high heaven here though. There are so many questions that haven’t been answered. I keep going back to the entire family sleeping in the same room. Ron & Misty had only been seeing each for a fairly short time. What new couple wants to sleep with kids in the room? I can understand if they’ve had a bad dream or if they’ve been sick, or just get in bed to cuddle, but on a regular basis? Then Misty just happens to wake up right as Ron get’s home? She hasn’t called 911. She obviously wasn’t too wasted if she woke up at 3:00 am. My guess is she was used to partying hard. Yes, she was probably exhausted, but why didn’t she call 911 immediately? I would rather be safe and maybe risk looking like a over protective freaked out Mother than let one second more go by when I didn’t know where my child was. Or any child that was in my care.
right Pinkey,unless it’s the drug’s? good question!
Do drug informants usually go around telling people they are drug informants?
CATHY ONE MORE THING THEN IM REALLY GONE. BUT U R SOOOO RIGHT IVE WORKED LIKE H-LL FOR THIS CLEAN PISS[LOLLOL] AND WORK ON ME DAILY ONES THAT WANT SOME CLEAN CLEAN BETTER GET TO N.A. A.A. CDA OR GET A SPONSER OR SOMTHING TO GET SOME GOOD OLE FASHION CLEAN CLEAN!!!!THIS CLEAN PEE WAS HARD TO COME BY AND I FIGHT FOR IT,SOME DAYS SECOND BY SECOND….SEE YALL 2MORROW.
stormgardner said,in February 14th, 2010 at 8:35 pm Pinky: Lol,,I just got tickled at the pee comment. Sorry, I can’t imagine myself “cooking up some pee”.
We have to find a little humor somewhere I guess.
I want so bad for them to find an answer to what happened to Haleigh. There are so many scenerios that could have happened. Something stinks to high heaven here though. There are so many questions that haven’t been answered. I keep going back to the entire family sleeping in the same room. Ron & Misty had only been seeing each for a fairly short time. What new couple wants to sleep with kids in the room? I can understand if they’ve had a bad dream or if they’ve been sick, or just get in bed to cuddle, but on a regular basis? Then Misty just happens to wake up right as Ron get’s home? She hasn’t called 911. She obviously wasn’t too wasted if she woke up at 3:00 am. My guess is she was used to partying hard. Yes, she was probably exhausted, but why didn’t she call 911 immediately? I would rather be safe and maybe risk looking like a over protective freaked out Mother than let one second more go by when I didn’t know where my child was. Or any child that was in my care.
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Ya Know Storm,I had thought about that before because of the 911 call,when r said,”ill’ kill him” it was like he’d gotten a threat or maybe heard someone would try!??
Althea,i wouldn’t..which makes you wonder about the rat in the mailbox!!
Something stink’s bad and i don’t think theyre on the right track…….i dunno!
It was a cold February. Maybe they didn’t want to run the central heat (to save money or the a/c had conked out) and were using a space heater.
Then again,who knows maybe r wanted them there b/c m had just gotten back from the other guy??
I dunno but i don’t take it that they were hard up for money,ya know?
b/c even on Naynay’s interview she said they had nice stuff…..!
Cathy, putting those 2 facts together gives me cold chills. I knew Ron had said he would kill them, but it was hard to say if it was just a normal “I’ll kill him” because he was assuming it was a him, or some thought it meant he may have known who the “him” was. I can’t make that decision. I don’t know for sure what he meant. He was distraught. It was hard to tell for me.
me toooo,and you made me think of it for the 1st time!!!!!!
and then look at that guy….cj i think is his name….basically wanted the le to tell him he could kill ron??
I recall in one of Misty’s many scenarios of what she did that night she said she woke up and found Haleigh gone, then looked for her for about a half hour. She claimed she looked various placeas, including “under beds.”
I realize she gave differing stories but one story was that she didn’t call 911 right away because she looked around for Haleigh first. That would be believable if she had not included looking under beds, since she could not have looked under the beds.
I sure wouldn’t want to live around there. If this wasn’t so sad, Jeff Foxworthy could add these folks to his “you might be a redneck if” performance. lol
I mean that ever so kindly. I could also be a red neck. More just country girl really, but to some it means the same.
Cath,Thats why I think she was leaving ron again that night,explains the stuff tore out!
madeleine02-18-2009, 05:33 AM
Haleigh Cummings 911 call transcript
911: “911, what’s your emergency”
Misty Croslin: “Hi…umm…I just woke up…and our backdoor was wide open and I think…and I can’t find our daughter”
911: “you can’t find what?”
Misty Croslin:”our daughter”
911:” OK, what’s your address?
Misty Croslin: “(inaudible)”
911: “OK, what’s the numerical?”
Misty Croslin: “The numerical…what’s that?”
911: “the number…green lane?”
Misty Croslin: “Yes”
911: “OK when did you last see her?”
Misty Croslin: “Um, we like just, you know…it was about 10 o’clock- she was sleeping- I was cleaning…
911: “OK- how old is your daughter?”
Misty Croslin: “She’s five”
911: “Ok…what was she last seen wearing? Maam…”
Misty Croslin: “She was in her pajamas- she was sleeping…”
911: “OK…alright…You said your back door was wide open?”
Misty Croslin: “yes- it was bricked- there was a brick on the floor…when I was asleep it was not like that.”
911: Ok…the back door…listen to me…your back door was wide open…what are you talking about a brick?”
Misty Croslin: “(inaudible)”
911: “what is a brick?”
Misty Croslin: “it’s almost like– on the stairs- we have a walkway…”
911:” uh huh….and there was a brick laying there?”
Misty Croslin: “yes…it’s still there”
(background) tell them they’ve better come on…
911: “we’ve got em coming- tell him we’ve got them coming”
Misty Croslin: “they’re coming”
911: “Ok what’s the color of your house ma’am?
Misty Croslin: “blue”
911: “blue, OK
(pause)
OK- what does she look like? How tall is she? Give me some description of her.”
Misty Croslin: “How tall she she? Like long hair like curly…with curls..
911: “long curls…what color?”
Misty Croslin: “(inaudible)”
911:” ok- what color hair? Brown hair?”
Misty Croslin: “Yes…oh my gosh….”
911: “OK- how tall is she about? Or how much does she weigh…do you know that?”
Misty Croslin: “huh?”
911: “about how tall or how much she weigh?”
Misty Croslin: “24 sounds about right- I don’t know- she’s not that tall….”
911: “OK-wait- tell your husband we’ve got them coming, ok?”
Misty Croslin: “OK”
911: “How much does she weigh- do you know?”
Misty Croslin: “huh?”
911: “How much does she weigh?”
Misty Croslin: “um…like 40-50 pounds- 60 pounds?
911: “40-60 pounds?”
Misty Croslin: “yeah”
911: “OK- let me get your name and phone number. Spell your last name…
spell your last name?
Was your back door locked do you know?”
Misty Croslin: “Yes…(inaudible)”
Ronald Cummings: “Man, I need somebody to get here now!”
911: “OK, let me speak to him…”
Ronald Cummings: “I just got home from work, my five-year-old daughter is gone- I need someone here now.”
911: “OK, listen to me…listen to me…we’ve got two officers…”
Ronald Cummings: “if I find whoever has my daughter before you all do, I’m killing them…I don’t care- I will spend the rest of my life in prison….you can put that on the recording…I don’t care.”
911: “It’s OK sir, we’ve got them on the way…ok- can you give me…what kind of description of pajamas was she wearing? ”
Ronald Cummings: “I don’t f%$ know!”
Cummings:” Hello”
911:” OK sir let me just talk to your wife. Let me get some information from her. ”
Misty: (inaudible) crying. “I don’t wanna…(inaudible)”
911: “Can I talk to her? OK”
Misty: “inaudible”
Cummings: (inaudible, in background ) “Where my daughter at?”
911:” Ma’am. OK listen I need you to answer some questions. Does the door look like it was pried open?”
Misty:” Umm… (inaudible)”
911: “Does it look like you had to sorta…like someone tried to enter your house.”
Misty: “Umm. Hold On.”
911:” And another thing, make sure you and your husband don’t touch the door anymore. Don’t mess with the door or anything. ”
Misty: “No it doesn’t. ”
911: “it doesn’t look like it is?”
Misty: “No”
911: “Ok, now listen, tell your husband, do not touch anything- because we are going to get a k-9 out there”
Misty: “ok….she said don’t touch anything because they are bringing a k-9 out here”
Ronald Cummings: “they better bring f’ing something out here- because if I get my hands on that mother f’er I’m going to kill him…I don’t give a f%*)@# about prison…mother F’ing prison doesn’t scare me.”
911:” ok, we understand- we’ve got them on the way
What’s her name…{redacted}…how do you spell her first name…{redacted}…what’s her middle name? …{redacted}. And the spelling of the last name is? …{redacted}.”
Misty: “well, that’s my last name”
911: “What’s her date of birth?
Ronald Cummings: “i’m going to f’ing kill somebody”
911:”Tell him we understand- we need to get her date of birth.”
Misty: “what’s her date of birth?”
Ronald Cummings: “F her date of birth- we need to find her- f her date of birth.”
911: ” Ok Listen to me, I’m getting this information- I’m not the officer driving out there ok? – they are coming out there to handle that situation. I need to gather all the information from you over the phone…it has nothing to do with me driving out there…ok? They are coming out there…ok?”
Misty: “ok”
911: “ok, I’m going to stay on the phone with you ok? Until they get there…ok?”
Misty: “ok”
(backgroud noise)
911: “tell him we’ve got them coming, he’s got to calm down a little bit. The officers are going to come out there and do what they can. We can’t have him screaming and yelling at the officers whenever they get there ok?”
Misty:” Uh huh…”
Ronald Cummings: “where is my f’ing phone…we’ve got better people to talk to then some mother f’ers who ain’t coming.”
As I posted in another thread , i found it odd that she said I cant find our daughter.
But then in other interviews she said would say things like “id never hurt those kids”
So On one hand she is personalizing it and on the other she is distancing herself.
The other thing was of course the 10pm and the cleaning thing…
Then there is the anger from the father and the whole where is my phone…
you know its no wonder new posters dont stay here when they post they get ignored…and by the way im old time peep here,its just plain rude…
hi to my friend m2c,wish you were here now…
justice for caylee,prayers for haleigh.xxx..
Ronald Cummings: “they better bring f’ing something out here- because if I get my hands on that mother f’er I’m going to kill him…I don’t give a f%*)@# about prison…mother F’ing prison doesn’t scare me.”
CathyJo….
Or stuff could have been torn out when she went through the place removing evidence. Not evidence re Haleigh, necessarily–but drugs perhaps. She knew she had to call cops; she might have had to do some “house cleaning” first.
See Storm,usually you’d say “them”
When all this is said and done, I wonder how many Ron groupies there will be. Now I know a girl likes a little bad boy, but Ron’s just a tad too much for any gal.
I’m sorry, I wouldn’t have a heart if I said I didn’t feel for Ron. I think he’s a hurt puppy and is acting like Billy Bad ass. Yes, he’s a thug , but he still hurts. He needs to know where his little girl is.
cathartic said,in February 14th, 2010 at 9:04 pm CathyJo….
Or stuff could have been torn out when she went through the place removing evidence. Not evidence re Haleigh, necessarily–but drugs perhaps. She knew she had to call cops; she might have had to do some “house cleaning” first.
Exactly right Cath!
staging a scene and couldn’t finish b/c he pulled in!??
Seem’s like the more ?’s we ask the more there is too ask!
Minnie,I know the feeling usually,but you’re not being ignored!! Honest! I get caught up in a subject and bam!
CathyJo63 said,in February 14th, 2010 at 8:40 pm Althea,i wouldn’t..which makes you wonder about the rat in the mailbox!!
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What do you mean?
I have to be honest tho,I do wonder sometimes why he didn’t call 911,he was the custodial parent,ya know!
and if he didn’t trust her to not get his child stole as he said,why did he think she’d do the call perfect?
I guess Misty can’t walk & chew gum at the same time either. How many of us are on the phone looking for keys, shoes, cleaning. Seriously, she couldn’t do both?
Minnie, this is the first time I’ve seen a post from you. I don’t post often. Don’t feel left out.
minnie, don’t need to run off, I didn’t see your previous post and M2c will probably be back in the morning if not tonight.
Minnie,
Sorry, I am sorta new her myself. I posted about a week or so ago for the first time but I have been following the case from Day 1, and reading blogs. We didn’t mean to ignore you, it’s just everyone’s nerves are on edge these days; we all want to find out what happened to Haleigh. Your opinions are certainly welcome here the same as everyone’s.
minnie said,in February 14th, 2010 at 8:12 pm hi everyone,..iv been trying to follow this case,real hard to as there are so many players,
its sad that all involved just care about their next drug hit,whos gona bail them outa jail…not wheres Haleigh?????..
And you’re right Minnie,this thing has more turns than twister!
I wouldn’t tell if i were a rat but a rat in a mailbox usually means you think the person is a rat….wasn’t it ron being accused of putting a rat in Tommy’s mailbox?
Well, I’ve got to call it a night. I can’t believe I didn’t touch a thing in this house today.
It’s too easy to get wrapped up on here and lose track of time. I just want Haleigh to be found. It’s getting hard to keep faith that she’s still alive more every day that passes. It would have to bring some peace to just know where she is.
Everybody have a good night.
What if this is all being staged to catch someone else? What if LE know none of them did it, but are making everyone think it to catch the real guy? They want people to think they think it is Misty, but really they have their eyes on someone else. Just a thought
michelle said,in February 14th, 2010 at 9:18 pm What if this is all being staged to catch someone else? What if LE know none of them did it, but are making everyone think it to catch the real guy? They want people to think they think it is Misty, but really they have their eyes on someone else. Just a thought
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Hey, thats a great thought imo.
Lord Michelle,I hope so as long as they get the real person!
thanks..sorry if i was rude,i was here alot and have missed being here..i know how involved it is and i should know better…
its hard to see these babies missing,hurt and feeling that you cant do anything to help..
this is a great place to come and share thoughts and i am very grateful to jan,simon and my good friends here for always being there when you need them.xxx…
I’m getting desperate with ideas these days lol… can’t wait til this is over!
Michelle, I think it is highly probable that they have persons of interest that they have not yet named.
All I really care about is finding Haleigh and someone being held accountable for taking or harming her. I do not care what happens re the drug charges. I just want that baby to be found.
I agree Cathartic
minnie said,in February 14th, 2010 at 9:21 pm thanks..sorry if i was rude,i was here alot and have missed being here..i know how involved it is and i should know better…
its hard to see these babies missing,hurt and feeling that you cant do anything to help..
this is a great place to come and share thoughts and i am very grateful to jan,simon and my good friends here for always being there when you need them.xxx…
No need to apologize for that,I’ve sure made my share of bloopers here,lol and we are here for Haleigh so we all understand one another and know sometimes we feel the need to lash out or find a scrap of humor!lol
You know at one point I thought perhaps the whole thing might have to do with a bed-wetting accident, because of way Misty went on and on about washing the blanket.
Me too Cath,I don’t care who goes down in the end as long as it’s the person who should!!!
This must be the “new” posting site?
alethea said,in February 14th, 2010 at 9:29 pm You know at one point I thought perhaps the whole thing might have to do with a bed-wetting accident, because of way Misty went on and on about washing the blanket.
you never know but it would shock me! I just keep thinking she’d have came clean by now!
“new posting site? lol
minnie, you weren’t rude and no need to miss being here just come in more often. You said you were friends with M2c, I think she is an early riser and gets on around 7ish so try and cross paths with her in the morning.
You are so right this case is draining and many times we all just feel so helpless in helping Haleigh.
Hmmmmm you did make me think of something tho!
How do we know she really p’d on it,maybe just an excuse for washing the blanket’s!
Marie said she didn’t p in bed but then again I’d take that with a grain of sea salt!
Ah…the blanket, althea…
Did she really wash a blanket? Or was that just another “story line.” Was there proof she did any laundry? And if so, what time was it she supposedly did laundry?
Misty did say a blanket was missing, or she couldn’t find it. She said that’s why she had to wash Haleigh’s blanket. She thought the missing blanket was in the van. I wonder if one was found in the van or not.
Cath,I’m almost certian they said the dryer was full of dirty clothes!
No, same-old, same-old. Crystal has to be worse than Ron, because they can’t come up with anything to work with that would point in her direction. IMO.
my opinion, what is your theory that happened to Haleigh?
how does a child just vanish? like if you broke into a house,tried to lift a child from its bed..hello no cries,screams…how did junior not wake?….
“Ok.. I put her to bed about, you know 8:00 ’cause that’s her bedtime–she has school. I put her to bed and… (pause) Her blanket and my blanket…my blanket was in the van that they took, so we had a blanket hanging on the window and I had to wash that– and her blanket–her blanket was–was she had peed on her blanket the night before, I guess, and I was gonna put it on her but it smelled like pee. So I washed her blanket and I gave her a little sheet to cover up with (voice breaks) and she fell asleep and I went–come in there and put her blanket on her and then I laid down.”
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She said I guess she p’d??
Kids have been taken from their beds at night when parents were sleeping just down the hall and no one heard anything. So, it does happen. However, I am not familiar with any kidnapping case where the child is taken from a bed in the same room as a sleeping adult.
Kids have been taken from their beds at night when parents were sleeping just down the hall and no one heard anything. So, it does happen. However, I am not familiar with any kidnapping case where the child is taken from a bed in the same room as a sleeping adult.
treece said,in February 14th, 2010 at 9:38 pm my opinion, what is your theory that happened to Haleigh?
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my opinion, I would like to know this also?
hi treece..cathy..alethea..im from across the pond…have a day off 2morrow so your early hours is my mid-day.lol..
Treece – Very tricky question to be asking me, hummmm? You people are great! Anyway, I have been on the computer ALL day on another case, etc….and my husband is ready to kill and hide my body! Not funny…I know….(but, just in case, I am letting you all know! Lol So, I am going to let him surf for a while so I can shower and get the kids ready for bed/school in the morning…..and get my uniforms washed, etc…and I will be back….before 10pm….I will try to give you my theory the best I can without giving away facts as well..(that’s kinda hard!)..So, talk to you later! : )
Thats exactly what I have wondered Minnie!
also let’s say she had a guy over…..they did whatever it was..lol u got me??
Then Haleigh caught them and they had to do what they had to to cover it up cause Haleigh could tell her dad…..then she washed the blanket’s because a guy’s dna would be on it right?
AnneInTn said,in February 14th, 2010 at 9:41 pm My Opinion Only said,in February 14th, 2010 at 9:29 pm WOW! I have been working very hard today on another case and thought that by now there would be much more postings to read through!!! Guess this blog site is getting old and time to move on to another! Take Care all! ~
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Move on?? Haleighs not home yet.
LoL Minnie…Hi!
my opinion, no it wasn’t a trick question. Last time we talked you said you didn’t think Haleigh was still alive so I asked what your theory was on what happened to her.
And we been working hard on Haleigh’s case,Why the heck are ppl so rude!
cathy,i dont beleive that misty was all tucked up and playing stepford wife at home with the kids..she just isint that type,..and yes id say she had a side line to keep her happy…good thought on her washing the blankets…
In the interview Wednesday, Croslin said Haleigh watched “Madagascar” and “AirBud” with her brother, then snuggled beneath a blanket in a pink Hannah Montana top. She reported Haleigh was wearing that top when she disappeared.”
http://www.jacksonville.com/news/metro/crime/2009-02-16/story/search_for_haleigh_scales_back
And this is from statement days ago…..”So I washed her blanket and I gave her a little sheet to cover up with (voice breaks) and she fell asleep and I went–come in there and put her blanket on her and then I laid down.”
WHAT BLANKET??? The girl said she FELL ASLEEP….WITH A SHEET and that she didn’t put a blanket on her until after 10. Now she was watching DVD’s with her brother…UNDER A BLANKET?
minnie said,in February 14th, 2010 at 9:55 pm cathy,i dont beleive that misty was all tucked up and playing stepford wife at home with the kids..she just isint that type,..and yes id say she had a side line to keep her happy…good thought on her washing the blankets…
Right Minnie,I am all about Haleigh and e have to explore every little thing to find the truth and Haleigh and it just came to me!She didn’t want to babysit that night and that’s why I think she wasn’t home!
i left out the real parts..lol sheww
I think if she was home,she just had someone there!
CathyJo, do you *ever* shut up? And you might want to Google for the correct usage of apostrophes. Or as you’d write it: apostrophe’s.
SHUT UP, you dumb old hag.
Sickofher said,in February 14th, 2010 at 10:08 pm CathyJo, do you *ever* shut up? And you might want to Google for the correct usage of apostrophes. Or as you’d write it: apostrophe’s.
SHUT UP, you dumb old hag.
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Go crawl back under your rock.
CathyJo,
She may have even left the house with that someone still there. Or someone saw her leave and went in, especially if she was only leaving for a short time and left a door unlocked.
So many scenarios are possible. But someone knows. Someone, somewhere, knows.
she is the chatty one…
wheres the stinkin tapes simon? get off your a$$ and upload the goods stat!
I don’t worry about typing correctly,in everything else i do just not a computer! Sorry to have ruined your day!
Right Cath,hmmmm possible maybe someone came by to get her to go find drug’s for them and b/c the kid’s were there she left them with the person??
I sure am and I don’t harass ppl either because I’m not a bully!I unlike you don’t come in and bash strangers because I have nothing better to do!
sickofher…why dont you just soap up and slide on…sad for you that you have to use a missing childs blog to spew your vomit…
There are to many factors causing grey in this case. The first is people in or around the case using back stabbing, giving speculations, and theories after having fall outs. The sources their selves are full of BS EX: Jones. Truth is he is as much of a thug as the rest, his versions are told in a way that excuse him self from any wrong doing. They are used as an outlet over issues that have nothing to do with Haleigh, or his ability to determine anything with Haleigh ,if he had that then she would be found right now. He is just pissed over what ever it is he is not telling because the truth of the story around him, Misty, and Ronald has something to do with drugs, and the truth is some where between all their versions. IMHO if this child was taken over drugs it was not due to a debt it was due to who ever took her sold her for money he/she ultimately used for drugs. I just wish everyone in this case would stop using this child’s tragedy for their own out let over their own personal crap. Ronald and Ms.Neves using the drug deals, Donna Brock using it, Jones using it over what he is not telling and what ever happened between them. Tommy for a get out of Jail card, silence on his behalf to keep from going to jail longer. LE because they are stumped, NG because it gives her ratings. When will people get back to this child and leave her out of their personal crap. Ronald was at work it’s on video, if this was against Ronald then it is someone that harbored a deep resentment towards him for a long time. Other than that it is a predator that has gone undetected or it was one of the persons their that day, or it was Tommy when he went there. Could be the A/C guy and some one s covering for him lets not forget he had access to the home alone for an extended period of time. What if he is preachers son or a friend of a cop and the cops think he is a great guy and in reality he’s closet pervert. There is to many open doors here for Misty alone to be the one. IMHO Police missed something and need to start all over with fresh eyes. They did not check someone out well enough there is a step they missed because they are so busy using the majority of the time on Misty what little is left is where the key is, where they lacked it’s there. JMHO
God Bless Haleigh and all her families
CathyJo63 said,in February 14th, 2010 at 10:17 pm
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Its ok ..just dont read the BS.
Ann,I don’t know how to read remember? LoL
I never let schooling get in the way of my edukashun!
“Harass ppl”? You’re a sad loser who spends all day on the computer even though you haven’t a clue, you could catch a clue if you were smothered in glue in a clue field, or someone gave you a clue. You’re an obnoxious hillbilly, honey, and you should spend some time learning correct punctuation rather than opining on cases which you will never get. Your over-usage of apostrophes has been noted!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
im going for 2nite…thanks all and i will check in 2mmrw..
justice for caylee..prayers for haleigh..xxx..
Who the hell cares but you?? You are here to pick on somebody all the time,just with different nic’s which tells me you are awfully concerned about me!! to go so far as to change nix and i ain’t having another battle of the wit’s with an unarmed person!
Sickofher said,in February 14th, 2010 at 10:22 pm
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Jan would you see where this person is from. TY
Dusty, you are right on. I think the police already cleared the real perp and need to take another look. I think poor Haleigh is gone from this life and the sicko perv that did it should pay as well as the lousy “parental” figures in her short life. This poor baby needs to be found so she can have a decent burial. It makes me sick that people like this have children.
Anne, you could have asked; I’m from Canada.
DustyRose said,in February 14th, 2010 at 10:18 pm
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Dusty Rose, that was a very well-expressed, thought provoking post. But if a stranger nabbed her, why was the laundry all re-arranged? Why were lies told about it?
One thing that stuck in my mind was Crystal’s and Marie’s reactions to Haleigh’s wetting the bed. Their mouths just fell open. They said she hadn’t wet the bed in several years.
If you remember on the voice analysis test, that was one subject that scored high deception. I don’t believe the bedwetting story.
Karon Cox said,in February 14th, 2010 at 10:33 pm
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Thank you, Karon.
Karon, she might not have wet the bed where she felt safe. If someone was abusing her at her father’s home or someone scared her she may have.
OTOH, Misty is not truthful so who knows. I do hope the truth comes out one day and this poor, neglected/abused child gets a proper burial and some justice.
althea:
You are welcome.
Burial? who are you? the coroner!
So maybe she wanted to confuse the LE about who had been using who’s blankets. Maybe also the children’s mattresses were dragged into the master bedroom after whatever happened to further confuse the issue. THIS DOES NOT LOOK GOOD.
alethea, I think you’re correct; I have always thought the MH was staged.
If she was being molested, it is more likely that someone in the home, or close family, was responsible for her coming up missing. Someone didn’t want her to talk, possibly.
Karon Cox said,in February 14th, 2010 at 10:47 pm If she was being molested, it is more likely that someone in the home, or close family, was responsible for her coming up missing. Someone didn’t want her to talk, possibly
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Karen i have heard this theory before but what i heard came from MG. about this.
If a blanket was washed, would it not have been dried in the dryer? Someone mentioned the dryer was full of dirty laundry. So, was there a wet blanket in the washer? Was the washer going when LE arrived? Or when Ron got home? If Misty did laundry, where is that clean laundry? And if she didn’t do laundry, why would she say she had?
Wasn’t some of the laundry strewn outside on the ground?
alethea said,in February 14th, 2010 at 10:54 pm Wasn’t some of the laundry strewn outside on the ground?
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seems to me a blanket was.
There was something wrong about the way Misty talked so much about the bed-wetting from the start. If my child was taken out of the home, her wetting the bed that night would be the last thing I would think of to tell the press. Misty talked about that more than she talked about the child going missing. Something was wrong.
Karon, I agree she emphasized that blanket way too much. For one thing, she claims to have been so zonked that night that she slept so soundly that she heard nothing. And she said she did not want to babysit that night because she was too tired. Even if Haleigh had wet the bed, I don’t see Misty cleaning up the mess. JMO.
Karon Cox said,in February 14th, 2010 at 10:56 pm There was something wrong about the way Misty talked so much about the bed-wetting from the start. If my child was taken out of the home, her wetting the bed that night would be the last thing I would think of to tell the press. Misty talked about that more than she talked about the child going missing. Something was wrong
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karon, I couldn’t agree more.
I’ve had a feeling all along that the “peed” blanket Misty kept on and on about, and the other blanket, the one she said was hers and was left in the van (?)are going to play a HUGE part in this case.
First- AnnInTN: I didn’t mean, “move on from this case”. I meant move on to another blog site that you guys must be posting on…Iwasn’t too clear, sorry.
Ok Treece – My theory, I used to think that perhaps Misty drugged the kids to sleep so she could do whatever and Haleigh was given too much etc..etc..I still think she did that, quite often too….BUT, I now believe that Misty may of had “company”……And maybe she didn’t….BUT, I think that either she owed some big $$ from her 3 day weekend partying that needed to be paid up OR she was hard up, coming down from her 3 day partying, and needed a fix, but still, had no $$….She then rallied some “people”, who could sale some stuff of RONS to either pay the debt or buy some drugs……But, it had to look like a break in…..Unfortunately, during the fake break in, Haleigh woke and saw what everyone was doing….and perhaps, she could have even seen “company” there that shouldn’t have been. She’s easily manipulated and would have left with someone easily…no noise, no screaming. They have to take care of it, because she will tell Daddy what she saw….and there will be BIG hell to pay for everyone, especially Misty. I think that this was not a favorable solution, but to a bunch of druggies, a “logical” one. I don’t think Misty knows where Haleigh was taken, just who took her and why…Which will lead LE to the others, and then hopefully to Haleigh. I think she may have pee’d on the blanket due to being sedated and not waking to use the bathroom in time…The blanket disappeared with Haleigh in order to not have it analyzed to find drugs present in the urine. The bed wasn’t unmade because Misty was never in it…She was too busy with her plans. Once the others left with Haleigh and they had a semi-plan together about the back door, (which was going to be the plan anyway, explaining the “break in” and Misty being asleep, etc…..the rest is history……That’s my theory, in short.
I have been thinking this last week that it might be that Misty never went to bed that night.
Misty said once, “if someone puts a gun in your mouth and warns you not to talk…”
I think that actually may have happened.
Misty first said there was a pillow and some sheets on the back steps. Then it was said that LE used those for the dogs to get a scent off of. I am not sure exactly what the true story was.
There has always been several stories about whether the washer was going when LE got there, or not. There were dirty clothes in the dryer.
On the 9-1-1 call, it sounded like people were rushing around, opening and closing doors. The clothes could have been scooped up before LE got there.
Cathartic:
Exactly!
cathartic said,in February 14th, 2010 at 11:06 pm Misty said once, “if someone puts a gun in your mouth and warns you not to talk…”
I think that actually may have happened.
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And that’s what Misty is so afraid of…
Haleigh didn’t probably normally wet the bed, but with the often sedation to sleep so Misty could be free in the evenings, her bed wetting started back….
cathartic said,in February 14th, 2010 at 11:06 pm Misty said once, “if someone puts a gun in your mouth and warns you not to talk…”
I think that actually may have happened
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This is my point to and imo i feel she was threatened by someone on the other side.
my opinion,
To have avoided any problems with Haleigh telling dad what happened that night Misty could have just left with them and left the kids at home alone right before dad was going to show up. That would have been much simpler. The theory to kill a child so she doesn’t tell dad misty had a boyfriend or so and so was here is pretty extreme to me.
My Opinion Only said,in February 14th, 2010 at 11:00 pm First- AnnInTN: I didn’t mean, “move on from this case”. I meant move on to another blog site that you guys must be posting on…Iwasn’t too clear, sorry
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Thats ok. TY.
The bed bing made looked very suspicious to me. like a clean up. Misty was not known to be a housekeeper, and they has slept in the bed until lunch that day. It just didn’t fit to me.
I do believe that she went along with what “must” be done to Haleigh….but, yes, threatened if she ever blabbered. BUT SHE KNOWS what happened. Trust me….Maybe not where Haleigh was taken, but like I said, how and why. And the Cadavier dogs only pick up scents of dead decomposing bodies…The search and rescue dogs pick up scents of live people….Haleigh left alive, and in a vehicle she’d been in before, therefore her scent would be there. In closing, no trace to follow.
Did the dogs not pick up on Haleigh sent going towards Tommys? I think dogs did??
My Opinion Only said,in February 14th, 2010 at 11:18 pm I do believe that she went along with what “must” be done to Haleigh….but, yes, threatened if she ever blabbered. BUT SHE KNOWS what happened. Trust me….Maybe not where Haleigh was taken, but like I said, how and why. And the Cadavier dogs only pick up scents of dead decomposing bodies…The search and rescue dogs pick up scents of live people….Haleigh left alive, and in a vehicle she’d been in before, therefore her scent would be there. In closing, no trace to follow
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Well this leads me to question about the fake search, where the owner of the dog that was there with her dog and picked up a sent there also. Hmm.
cathartic said,in February 14th, 2010 at 10:51 pm If a blanket was washed, would it not have been dried in the dryer? Someone mentioned the dryer was full of dirty laundry. So, was there a wet blanket in the washer? Was the washer going when LE arrived? Or when Ron got home? If Misty did laundry, where is that clean laundry? And if she didn’t do laundry, why would she say she had?
I think i read somewhere the washer was running when the cops got there,not sure tho!
Treece – Extreme, yes- But too a bunch of skitzed out druggies, logical. Why even give her the chance to say this person and that person had all your guns, or whatever out with Misty and so and so was here, etc….when it would be better to just avoid the entire situation all together. You’re avg. run of the meal drug addicts and trash don’t think like normal humans……it’s always drastic and criminal…..
My opinion you are saying they would kill a child so she couldn’t tell dad they stole guns or whatever from him but yet nothing was stolen.
My Opinion, this is not “You’re avg. run of the meal drug addicts” and trash don’t think like normal humans……it’s always drastic and criminal….. This case is much bigger than one can imagine. jmo
nothing was stolen except Haleigh
I think Haleigh left in the van. Alive.
And I think Misty was threatened by someone she was sure would follow through on the threat.
Her live scent….yes, but she was around tommy…so that proves nothing…..And the pee blanket is gone…..and Misty had told the police she’d been cleaning and doing laundry all afternoon / evening…..the house was a mess, and dirty clothes everywhere….dirty clothes, dry in the washer and in the dryer….in order to look like she’d been doing something….dishes everywhere….and this is public knowledge…nothing new…..She’s just a liar and didn’t do enough cleaning, because she was just a nasty teen, to make her story more believable…..
cathartic, you may be right.
no the p blanket was not gone.
Well, if i was threatened, i might lie to if my life was in harms way. I am making a point here only. If you go back to the 911 calls there was a cop 2 blocks away when that call came in, dont this seem strange. Do you all see where I am coming from ? And if i remember right it was a women cop and i feel a women went in and took Haleigh and staged it to look like the backdoor was used. JMO
Yes, only Haleigh was taken…..once she spoiled their little plan, the other plan was forgotten. They had to make it look like an abduction, plain and simple…not like a burglary AND abduction…..no one would spend that much time in a house with out getting caught….They got too caught up at that point in covering up what Haleigh saw and the other got put aside…..
Misty says she washed the blanket because it smelled like p – she never even said Haleigh wet on it. She cover H with something else while she washed Haleigh’s blanket. When Misty went to bed she put the clean blanket she had washed on Haleigh. LE took that blanket and other bedding for the dogs to smell for her scent.
What makes you think it had to be the other side. What if it was on Ron’s side? Who would be getting their belly full of the way that little girl was treated on Ron’s side but would have met with all kinds of resistance, if they tried to take Haleigh away from Ron? Who, in that family had the determination, was watching and knew what was going on, had relatives in another state to hide her out, and could have had someone they know come in and scare Misty and take Haleigh?
treece said,in February 14th, 2010 at 11:32 pm Misty says she washed the blanket because it smelled like p – she never even said Haleigh wet on it. She cover H with something else while she washed Haleigh’s blanket. When Misty went to bed she put the clean blanket she had washed on Haleigh. LE took that blanket and other bedding for the dogs to smell for her scent
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I agree treece.
Why would they spend time covering up what Haleigh saw if they were going to kidnap her?
Karon Cox said,in February 14th, 2010 at 11:33 pm What makes you think it had to be the other side. What if it was on Ron’s side? Who would be getting their belly full of the way that little girl was treated on Ron’s side but would have met with all kinds of resistance, if they tried to take Haleigh away from Ron? Who, in that family had the determination, was watching and knew what was going on, had relatives in another state to hide her out, and could have had someone they know come in and scare Misty and take Haleigh?
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IMO theres three people that could pull this off for a year that had a motive. Go Figure.jmo
NOPE- they didn’t take the pee blanket…they used another….Misty couldn’t find the pee blanket…and now, I am probably saying too much, and should stop here…..And a women cop didn’t take Haleigh either….but this is the end of what I can say at this point….Some of what I am saying may be a bit off re: how it all got started, but it’s a start to get you guys thinking in the right directions……
For you to say a woman didn’t take Haleigh would mean you knew who took Haleigh. If LE knows who took her they should have arrested them long ago. Right back to where we started from.
My Opinion Only said,in February 14th, 2010 at 11:36 pm NOPE- they didn’t take the pee blanket…they used another….Misty couldn’t find the pee blanket…and now, I am probably saying too much, and should stop here…..And a women cop didn’t take Haleigh either….but this is the end of what I can say at this point….Some of what I am saying may be a bit off re: how it all got started, but it’s a start to get you guys thinking in the right directions……
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well i dont need to think anymore and i am not saying a women cop took her but i feel a women did take her imo.
treece said,in February 14th, 2010 at 11:39 pm For you to say a woman didn’t take Haleigh would mean you knew who took Haleigh. If LE knows who took her they should have arrested them long ago. Right back to where we started from.
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treece i have always felt that LE knows what happened that night.imo
The plan was not to ever take Haleigh….She had nothing to do with any of it, she just walked in at the wrong time and a bunch of freaks, freaked out…..it was only suppose to be a stage to break in to steal….haleigh spoiled that plan and then it became a kidnapping scheme. And these, IMO are Misty’s circle, not Ron’s.
AnneInTn, then what in the hell are they waiting on? what have they done for the past year besides say, Misty is the key!! Like I said right back where we started from.
My Opinion Only said,in February 14th, 2010 at 11:42 pm The plan was not to ever take Haleigh….She had nothing to do with any of it, she just walked in at the wrong time and a bunch of freaks, freaked out…..it was only suppose to be a stage to break in to steal….haleigh spoiled that plan and then it became a kidnapping scheme. And these, IMO are Misty’s circle, not Ron’s.
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I agree to disagree.
My opinion, I guess you agree with LE, Misty’s the key, Misty’s the key, Misty’s the key.
Well thanks for sharing but I think that is all bull shit!!
I don’t think anyone “knows” who took her!they’d be in jail now! Hopefully!
treece said,in February 14th, 2010 at 11:43 pm AnneInTn, then what in the hell are they waiting on? what have they done for the past year besides say, Misty is the key!! Like I said right back where we started from.
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treece i want state my thoughts and opinions on that.
It’s not what LE knows or thinks they know….it’s what they must prove, beyond a doubt….and that is what they are trying to do now. They can’t arrest someone unless they can make it stick and stick for good….They are working very hard to get this done. Very hard and they will get the truth out……I just know and believe they will. Proof…Proof…Proof…
IMO,they didn’t break in to rob them?? This had to be a well planned incident!
Treece:
They are saying Misty is the key, not Misty did it. I don’t think Misty did it, but she and Ron both know something that they are hiding.
In my opinion it’s all BS too!!Misty is the key but only because she had her last!
So that is saying that Misty, with less than a 6th grade education has held Florida’s LE’s best at bay for 1 freaking year.
If Misty would just admit what shes lying about ….if she wasn’t homee she need’s to tell when she left,when she returned,that’s why she is the key and if she was there then she need’s to tell who was there with her!
I am still considering that Misty was not even home when it happened. That does not mean I am convinced she does not know something. She is at the very least holding something back from investigators something about her activities that night that she does not want to admit to. I do not believe she ever slept that night; she was out, then came home to find Haleigh gone or someone in the MH who was not supposed to be there. She staged the scene because she had been threatened, a threat she took very, very seriously. I believe she fears the person(s) making that threat even more than she fears prison.
I think someone else will be the one to break.
Treece:
Misty refuses to talk. She isn’t outsmarting them. She is scared of something and is too scared to talk.IMO.
Karon, but where is some evidence. Many people refuse to talk but it doesn’t stop an investigation. This is so ridiculous. If Misty is too scared give her protection.
Thank you all for your input. I am not mad at any of you, just fed up with the BS.
I believe she fears the person(s) making that threat even more than she fears prison. I totally belive this statement.
Then LE should be offering her protection. However the way she has been treated by everyone I doubt she would ever trust them.
treece said,in February 14th, 2010 at 11:43 pm AnneInTn, then what in the hell are they waiting on? what have they done for the past year besides say, Misty is the key!! Like I said right back where we started from
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I feel there will be more arest soon. its not the right time yet for LE to show all the cards yet.imo
I do too Ann,and she must know they’ll follow through!
On the background of the 9-1-1 tape, Ron was clearly saying. “I didn’t have anything to do with this.” Why would he feel the need to say that to Misty? Was he trying to get their stories straight? Misty should have known he didn’t have anything to do with it, since he was at work and had just gotten home. Something is wrong with their story, right there. Ron’s hanging up on the 9-1-1 operator twice is fishy. Their rushing around in the backround, slamming doors, pushing buttons sounds fishy. I don’t think they killed Haleigh, but I think they were scared for LE to find out about something, so they staged a cover-up.
Remember Ron’s uncle that says he doesn’t squeal on family.
Well, my opinion is if that ever happens you will know it is because some one higher than PCSO took control. Someone that actually wants the truth. Someone who cares about Haleigh instead of this game.
There’s one thing I’m not clear on. When the deputies arrived, was the place “ripped apart” like someone had been tearing through the closets? I don’t recall having heard that before.
Don’t get me wrong 99.99% of the time I am grateful and thankful for LE and all public servants who risk themselves for us everyday. However, PCSO gets a huge “F” in my opinion. They have badgered innocent people and turned their head from others. It is just freaking wrong.
I think you’re right….she’s more afraid to spill the bean than anything else…..But unless she does, they can’t prove one damn thing that they feel they know…..Don’t you think the if LE could go and arrest those they truly believed involved, they would….and I must stress again, LE knows more than we do on this case, more than I know, more than anyone knows which is why they currently are sticking to the strategic plan orchestrated by them and the FBI and FDLE – They absolutely know what they are doing and where they are going with all of this….Seriously believe that….If it were just PCSO, I would say, maybe some of you have a point, but we have 2 very professional agencies working on this that do this day in and day out. Just keep hope that this will end very soon. I am probably going to get a good lashing for telling anything I have told to date…even though I haven’t been specific, I am dreading the consequences…Maybe I should end my postings at this point and let things cool down and let you guys continue on with your own thoughts and theories and just keep hope and pray it’s all over soon…I just get too emotionally involved and want to tell, tell, tell, and I can’t. I must remain faithful to those I have made promises to, otherwise my word means nothing and for me, that means a lot….I need to be trust worthy and reliable, always….I don’t anyone to ever consider me to be anything other than honest and dependable. I pray for you guys, I pray for those who “truly” lost Haleigh and I pray for LE to resolve this quickly! Good night and good luck to you all….I will check in from time to time to see what your thoughts are, just not sure if I should comment anymore….not yet anyway. Always here, My Opinion Only…..
Remember that time Cobra told us about one of the local officers badgering Teresa Neves and threatening to lock her up and making her cry. Talk about abusing their power. Cobra was so mad at them for treating a grandma like that.
To me, “Misty is the key” does not mean “Misty did it.”
My Opinion Only said,in February 15th, 2010 at 12:07 am
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I have to ask. Your not gona post here anymore cuz we are so close on our theroies?
Treece:
There are so many possibilities, and I have never settled on one theory. I just want to look at every possibility. There are some missing pieces that we don’t know, yet. We won’t be able to say for sure until we get those other pieces.
cathartic said,
in February 15th, 2010 at 12:10 am
To me, “Misty is the key” does not mean “Misty did it.”
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I agree with you but the way they have used it all year is their hands are tied until Misty talks. So that says, a 17 year old, has had them tied up for over a year.
Hmmmm,have you guys ever heard of the makeshift chair found in the wood’s?
CathyJo63 said,in February 15th, 2010 at 12:13 am Hmmmm,have you guys ever heard of the makeshift chair found in the wood’s?
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Yes cathy i have. saw a pic somewhere of it.
I had never heard that!!
someone even close to Haleigh could of used it to wait for the right time!
CathyJO, yes but chair was supposedly cleared by LE.
I just think that maybe some of my comments have been too specific, and I need to back away for a while…….Does that make sense? Plus, for now anyway, I really need to get some sleep, I have a L O N G day tomorrow….Good night you guys- later!
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3328188&postcount=12
theres a large pic!
althea:
If the place was torn apart, like a robbery, LE would have spotted that right off, and they say this was done by someone in the inner circle of that family.
I get the feeling that IN MY Opinion thinks it might be Tommy and Joe.
treece,
I think so much emphasis is put on Misty talking because she was the last person known to have seen a child who is now missing. She has not been forthcoming on her activities that evening and gave conflicting stories over and over. LE tends to be suspicious of such behavior.
Now, if Misty had given a statement and stuck to it–didn’t change her story every few days–they might not be looking at her as having “key” information that she is not telling.
Okay, it’s the middle of the night and maybe my brain is starting to fuzz. So feel free to poke holes in this — I really hope you can! (Because no one in their right mind WANTS a parent to be implicated.) Okay, here it is:
Why is it that TN has waited until NOW to turn on Misty, and with such ferocity? She did call her a little witch, didn’t she? (If I heard right.)
Just my opinion.
specific,i don’t think it’s been specific at all..imo sorry! lol
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ok Ann,TY
I’d never heard of it and i thought i’d heard everything!
Tommy seems to be a thief, but not a violent type. I don’t know about Cousin Joe.
Karon Cox said,in February 15th, 2010 at 12:21 am althea:
If the place was torn apart, like a robbery, LE would have spotted that right off, and they say this was done by someone in the inner circle of that family.
I get the feeling that IN MY Opinion thinks it might be Tommy and Joe.
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Well, it might make sense that if they had seen their handiwork before, they might recognize it. I can see that. But WAS the place torn apart?
Karon Cox said,
in February 15th, 2010 at 12:03 am
On the background of the 9-1-1 tape, Ron was clearly saying. “I didn’t have anything to do with this.” Why would he feel the need to say that to Misty? Was he trying to get their stories straight? Misty should have known he didn’t have anything to do with it, since he was at work and had just gotten home. Something is wrong with their story, right there. Ron’s hanging up on the 9-1-1 operator twice is fishy. Their rushing around in the backround, slamming doors, pushing buttons sounds fishy. I don’t think they killed Haleigh, but I think they were scared for LE to find out about something, so they staged a cover-up.
Remember Ron’s uncle that says he doesn’t squeal on family.
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that was put out by a blogger named Pirate and she didn’t get that from the horse’s mouth so I doubt seriously that was ever said
TN has turned on Misty and GGSykes has been starting to talk more freely about Ron and Misty. Did you read the statement by GGSykes where she said she was mad at Misty the night Haleigh went missing because she had taken off those three days and left noone to care for the kids. She said the Ron had lived with her and his grandfather from about 3 until the grandfather got sick. He went back to live with his mother. When he came back in his teens, he was changed. She blamed it on his grandfather’s illness.She said he had a smart mouth, and he didn’t seem to be close to anyone, anymore.
I think TN and GGSykes are talking more because they know Ron and Misty are going away for a long time. I don’t think they felt free before because Ron was telling them that he was trying to get something out of Misty. With Ron and Misty in jail, Ron won’t be able to get anything out of her.
If the place was torn apart, couldn’t it be explained that it was because someone had mislaid something that they were afraid for the deputies to find? Does that make sense? Simple explanations are something I try to look for first.
Karon, it is true that very often you don’t tell strangers what was really going on at the time because it is in the family and it is possible that is why it wouldn’t come out until later.
Vanquera:
That was very clear on the background of thay 9-1-1 call. I put in on this site several times. It was a tape that Geraldo had put on that had the background amplified. If I find that tape again, I will put it on here again. it was discussed on the radio program one night. There was all kinds of things going on in the background of that tape.
One thing I have figured out is that just because LE says things have been ruled out, doesn’t mean it has been really been ruled out. They don’t want the public in on anything.
alethea:
I have followed this case very carefully, and I have never heard anything about the place being torn apart.
Well, I am off to bed. Goodnight all.
Good night Karon, sweet dreams to you.
vaquera said,in February 15th, 2010 at 12:39 am Karon Cox said,
in February 15th, 2010 at 12:03 am
On the background of the 9-1-1 tape, Ron was clearly saying. “I didn’t have anything to do with this.” Why would he feel the need to say that to Misty? Was he trying to get their stories straight? Misty should have known he didn’t have anything to do with it, since he was at work and had just gotten home. Something is wrong with their story, right there. Ron’s hanging up on the 9-1-1 operator twice is fishy. Their rushing around in the backround, slamming doors, pushing buttons sounds fishy. I don’t think they killed Haleigh, but I think they were scared for LE to find out about something, so they staged a cover-up.
Remember Ron’s uncle that says he doesn’t squeal on family.
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that was put out by a blogger named Pirate and she didn’t get that from the horse’s mouth so I doubt seriously that was ever said
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I know also he was on his cell with TN during Misty’s 911 call!
Goodnight, Karon, and thank you.
listen you cackling hens..shut the F up and go take care of your families(4 once)..now slowly back away from your computer.
OJ’s glove said,in February 15th, 2010 at 1:18 am
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Aren’t you the one who asked about the RUMOR about the retired police officer raising Haleigh?
I don’t think you understood what I was getting at. Looks like there’s more than one rumor been mentioned on this thread tonight that’s been deliberately started, and I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s one of them! (Just my opinion.)
Sickofher said,in February 14th, 2010 at 10:08 pm CathyJo, do you *ever* shut up? And you might want to Google for the correct usage of apostrophes. Or as you’d write it: apostrophe’s.
SHUT UP, you dumb old hag.
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LOL!
I was wondering the EXACT same thing!!
Sickofher said,in February 14th, 2010 at 10:40 pm Karon, she might not have wet the bed where she felt safe. If someone was abusing her at her father’s home or someone scared her she may have.
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If someone gave her a “sleep aid” and then she feel asleep, stopped breathing and died, she would have wet the bed.
But I think they said there was unknown DNA found. They didn’t say where, though. Can’t help wondering if it had to do with this laundry/blanket issue.
Hey guys!
I know they said whatever was found didn’t match what Misty had said transpired that night?
Goodnight all.
G’nite,I am leaving too,these children in here don’t know how to act! Ignorant behavior in a forum for a missing child!Just shows ehat they think of themselves!
Thank you Simon for being honest and direct.. It seems that with little to no new newz, the topics have been thrown back to the beginning. Being very honest with you, the 911 tape throws no new elements into the case, been gone over so many times, nothing to be found. I still have unanswered questions for the dispatch script. I guess there are those that look at it and think, whats so important.. Well the important element, a deputy out of place.. One that was at Tommys at the time of dispatch.. One that had not (yet) made contact with Ron or Misty, one who was verifing with Tommy the last time Haleigh was seen.. Lots of Whys.. and Never an Answer given.. Is this important?
How did she know that Tommy would be the brother of the babysitter of a child gone missing, if she was not yet aware the child had gone missing?? How would she have the time the child went missing, if she had not yet spoke to Ron or Misty? Do you see a time listed on the 911 call? Nooooo.. you don’t.. Now, is this important or not??
And nooo, this script has not been changed or the timing off.. The dispatch tape, script are all mandated by the FCC, no changes are allowed.
So, if you want a mystery to solve while we wait for the next seige of activity.. Try the dispatch tape..
Karen Cox. I agree with your 12:53am post. We have actually heard how things were in the process to appear as cleaning up. Beds were stated to have been made, dirty clothes in the dryer etc…
FLE2: I’m available at 116 Tyler.
OP: 116 Tyler? (static) 26.
MLE1: What’s going on at 116?
FLE2: 1256.
OP: Go head.
FLE2: 10:08 from this location, going 97, back to Green.
OP: 10:4. Verifying the last time she was seen ____address.
FLE2: She was seen within her residence, about 1 to 1 1/2 hours ago..
911 Call made at 3:27AM …
Haleigh was SEEN about 1 – 1.5 hrs ago.
Backing up time, that would be 2-2:30AM
WHO was it that SEEN HALEIGH AT 2-2:30am.
SOMEONE GAVE THIS STATEMENT..WHO WAS IT???
Remember MISTY was sleeping, Ron was at work, Where was HaLeigh that SOMEONE seen her at 2:-2:30AM
WHY was LE over on TYLER ST???
Remember the neighbor heard noises at 2:30AM
FLE2: 10:08 from this location, going 97, back to Green
10:08 = MISSING PERSON
mlee and GramaMonkey: I’m very curious about that transmission, too. Does anyone know what time it was?
Because if it was just minutes after the 3:17 am 911 call, WHO could have been the person who said that Haleigh was last seen 1 – 1/2 hours ago? That wasn’t M or R on the 911 call, right? So who else could have or would have been talked with who could even say that at that point?
This may be a red herring in that some info gets mixed up or LE gets it wrong especially in an emergency situation, things could be misunderstood. But maybe it isn’t a red herring. It sure bears looking at but how do we find out what it means?
FLE2: 10:08 from this location, going 97, back to Green
That also reads ..FROM THIS LOCATION
to me I read this as being TYLER ..
There definitely are some questionable statements in that transmission.
One year later and we still do not have an explanation to this.
Hi Gang…. please give me a quick re-cap… PRETTY PLEASSSSE… of new stuff if there is any news. Thanks!!!!
Has it occurred to anyone that the sounds on the 911 tape with the closing of doors, etc. could have been deliberately done to cover for the fact that a considerable amount of time had already been spent on staging everything in the house? (Such as moving mattresses, perhaps?)
Hi, alethea! I guess that would depend on exactly when R got home and when they called 911. Perhaps M had been staging things prior to R getting there? To hide things FROM him or to hide things FOR him? Or “stage” things?
Otherwise I might think that R was going thru the house looking for Haleigh himself – hence some of the noises. Not sure. I know if I’d arrived home to find out that my child was missing I would search the place myself whether anyone else already had or not.
One thing I’m not clear on. Did the children have regular beds in their room? I know they slept on mattresses in R’s room sometimes but in their own they had real beds. Is that true?
Or maybe they were running out of time. But they were out of laundry soap? Only wet items the ones in the machine or outside on the rail or on the ground? Takes about 1/2 hour to do a load of laundry or a little more depending on type of washing machine.
Hi, cent! I’ll do what I can. No new news exactly. But last night there was some great discussion of ideas and theories (minus the usual nasty rants and accusations).
And, for comic relief, we had a visit from the “PuPo” (Punctuation Police!) LOL!
Always good for a laugh when people criticize others when they have similar mistakes in their own comments!
Note to Sickofher: You might want to google for the appropriate use of asterisks and check yourself on “over-usage” of exclamation marks!
Note to CrossEyed10: See note to Sickofher.
Otherwise it seems to have been a good evening (although OJ, you COULD find a nicer way to say “Goodnight All!” I KNOW you can do it! 🙂
Yes, exclamation points do not a point make!!!!!!!!!!! Ha, ha.
alethea: I’m not sure the washing machine was running when LE arrived. Was that confirmed or a rumor? It makes no sense for it to be running. It does not fit with what M said. And if it was running I would expect LE to have stopped it and examined every single thing that was in it.
And thank you to all of you who said that Dawn Dish soap could be used in a pinch. I would never have thought of that. In fact with my luck it would have caused soap bubbles to overflow out of the washer and fill up the room (a la some episode of I Love Lucy, I’m sure!) LOL!
The police have said that the physical evidence in the MH did not fit Misty’s version of events.
Misty claimed to have been doing laundry but reports are there was no laundry detergent in the house.
Dirty clothes in the dryer immediately makes me think someone did a quick clean up before the police were called. I can’t think of a plausible explanation why someone would throw dirty clothes into the dryer; the washer seems a more likely place for them, even if they didn’t have any soap on hand.
Misty said something about Haleigh’s blanket being dirty and she took another blanket off of a window to cover her with, IIRC.
It’s always bothered me that Misty made the 911 call because Ron was there screaming in the background. Why didn’t Haleigh’s father make the 911 call himself? Misty stumbled over giving the most basic info to 911.
Ron wasn’t very cooperative with 911 when he got on the phone, either, and that sends up a red flag to me. 911 operator needed Haleigh’s DOB but Ron’s response was a vitriolic, curse-filled rant.
m2c♥, I’ve never actually tried using Dawn myself as a substitute but I have heard of it. Maybe it’s an Urban Legend. But it seems like the dish soap doesn’t make suds like it used to, so maybe it might work.
Yes, I know they would have stopped the machine if it was running when they came in. Already thought of that. We just don’t know whether or not it was.
Also, if the A/C had just been fixed, it’s not likely they were all sleeping in the same room to keep warm.
alethea, I’m not arguing just discussing and asking questions. I was trying to offer some “light relief” with the reference to the soap bubbles. And if LE stopped the machine (if it was running) then they have that evidence.
I thought M said that Monday evening she washed Haleigh’s blanket because she had peed on it the night before. That struck me odd because why not wash that right away? Rather than wait until the next night when Haleigh would need it? But we know M was no “Hannah Homemaker.”
I don’t know why the kids were sleeping in the same room but it’s not unheard of. “Dad” was working at night. Children could have been a little scared, who knows?
With these kinds of things we can read a lot of suspicious things into them or they may have ordinary explanations. For example, you are supposed to have done the laundry but didn’t before “hubby” comes home so you hide it in the washer and dryer. Then can go back and do it when he’s gone again! LOL! I know I hid dirty dishes from the kitchen sink in the bath tub once when unexpected company was on the doorstep! Then had to hope they didn’t peek behind the shower curtain if they had to use the bathroom! 🙂
Also, NEW ARTICLE!
m2c I remember the walk through and when they went into Haleighs room the frame to the bed was in there. It was a white cast iron frame and you could see through it. They did not show a different room that may of been Jrs’. I am not sure if they shared a room or not. Hope this answers your question about the beds.
m2c♥, Sorry if you thought I thought you were arguing. Sometimes I can have a VERY argumentative style especially when in deep thought. I don’t mean to offend!
But wouldn’t you think that if Ronald already knew they were out of laundry soap he would have known she couldn’t have been doing any laundry, and how could she have been in trouble? One certainly would get the idea that he is very fastidious about the cleanliness of his clothes, though, from the conversation with his grandmother about boxer shorts!
Mlee,very good observation! I know you got me thinking!
I apologize … had the wrong code for the ‘8’
GramaMonkey said,in February 15th, 2010 at 9:35 am FLE2: 10:08 from this location, going 97, back to Green
10:08 = MISSING PERSON
10:08 = Going into Service
Signal 8 = Mising Person
m2c♥ said,in February 15th, 2010 at 10:41 am alethea: I’m not sure the washing machine was running when LE arrived. Was that confirmed or a rumor? It makes no sense for it to be running. It does not fit with what M said. And if it was running I would expect LE to have stopped it and examined every single thing that was in it.
And thank you to all of you who said that Dawn Dish soap could be used in a pinch. I would never have thought of that. In fact with my luck it would have caused soap bubbles to overflow out of the washer and fill up the room (a la some episode of I Love Lucy, I’m sure!) LOL!
************************Yea M2,just don’t use as much dawn..LoL I’ll give ya another good one,Use black halloween food color to refill your printer cartridge,I have been for years!!
Also i never buy colored paint….use food color to make ye own..lol You can get some neat color’s!
Gosh,Those files must be huge? have any of you guys tried to dl them yet?
M2,Im almost certain the washer was going when r got home and when le got there too!
Mlee mentioned the 911 call again and the police car at T’s just before,those are 2 things that have bothered me too!
Something is really weird!
cathyjo, I have been trying too and can’t get them to play….it also doesn’t help that I am computer not smart either lol
This is the hypnotist transcript and it makes me wonder something……She said she helped Haleigh do her homework,wonder if that’s something the le has?? It would still be there right?
What kind of day was February 9th?
What kind of day? Well it started out very, very good all up until. . .
What was it like?
It was sunny, it was nice out.
What did you have for breakfast?
I didn’t have breakfast. The kids had eggs.
Tell me in your own words.
Huh?
Tell me about the day in your own words.
OK.Um, _____ we got Haleigh ready for school and she didn’t have anything that she wanted to wear, so Granny had some clothes that she wanted to wear, so we drove all the way over to Welatka to get the clothes she wanted to wear. Then we took her to school and I walked to her into school, walked her all the way to her classroom, then walked out back to, got in the car with Ronald and Jr. We went home and went back to sleep until about twelve. Got up, Ronald got up, got ready for work and got ready I don’t know what we did around the house, just laid around until Ronald had to go to work. Jr. played and then he took a nap. And it was time for Haleigh to pick up at the bus, so Ronald picked Haleigh up at the bus, I stayed at the house because Jr. was sleeping so Ronald couldn’t take him to the bus, so I stayed there. And they come back, Ron had 5 minutes until he had to go to work, um he gave me a kiss, Haleigh a kiss, Jr. a kiss and said he had to go. Then the A/C guy, we were sitting on the porch, um we have this little basketball thing and they wanted me to set it up so I was trying to set it up, but I couldn’t set it up, then I seen the A/C guy was there. Then I walked out of the house and I called Ronald and I said “well, the A/C guy is here” and he said “yeh”, and I gave the phone to Ronald to talk to the A/C guy and my brother was there and we just watched the kids play in the yard and Haleigh was doing great, riding her bike trying to pop wheelies and me and my brother, we just sat over there and watched the kids play.
What time was that?
Maybe about 5:00, I don’t know, probably about 5, I do believe.
What happened after 5:00?
Um, we went in the house, we let the kids play, and I cooked some dinner. The kids played and watched movies like we always do, play and watch movies. I helped HaLeigh with her homework. Um
What movie did you watch that day?
Um they watch Air Bud over and over and over and over again, so it was Air Bud. They don’t stop watching Air Bud, that’s just what they watch or Madagascar, that one too, that’s both of them. . .
What about dinner, what time was that?
Um, I started cooking about 6 and it took me about 30-45 minutes, so eating by a least 7, and that’s when Granny pulled up, and I was finished, I was just waiting for them to finish. And Granny just brought some clothes and then she left, the kids got finished eating, and I got Haleigh ready for bed, she took her Air Buds to my bedroom to put it in the PlayStation2, cause she didn’t have a DVD player and she watched her movies and she went to sleep.
What time did she go to sleep?
Um, I laid her down at 8:00, that’s her bedtime and it probably took her about 30-45 minutes before she went, you know was sound asleep, um then I, well I got to back up a little bit, I’m sorry, um before she went to bed, right after dinner, I threw her blanket in the dryer, er washer because it smelled like pee and I didn’t want to put her to bed with a blanket on her that smelled like pee and I’m not gonna do that. That’s disgusting, I wouldn’t want a pee blanket on me, so I wouldn’t to it to nobody else. So I washed her blanket. Then she went to sleep with her little sheet on her and I covered her up with her blanket, she was sound . . .
What was she wearing?
She was wearing her pink Hannah Montana shirt and her underwear. She had shorts on but she took them off. She don’t like to sleep in clothes at all, she hates clothes, wants to strip all the time and be in her underwear. And probably it took 30 minutes for it to wash and probably like 60 minutes for it to dry and as soon as that was done, I got in my pajamas um and I laid down on the bed. And I remember I was halfway asleep and I remember Jr. getting up and going over me and was out the bedroom door. And then when I woke up and he was on one side of me but he was moved to the other side of me and that is when I woke up and noticed that the light was on in the kitchen, so I went to the kitchen and I seen the back door was open so I started freaking out about the back door. So I ran to my bedroom and got my phone and then um I tried to call Ronald he didn’t answer, well before I called Ronald, I turned around, while I was grabbing my phone, I turned around and saw that Haleigh was gone and I tried calling over and over again, I was freaking out, looking under beds, in closets, everywhere and screaming her name. Bubba’s up at that time and he’s freaking out too. That’s when I opened the front door and Ronald was pulling up and I asked him “do you have Haleigh? Do you know where Haleigh is?” And he was like “what do you mean?” And I’m like “Haleigh’s gone.” And we looked and searched and we couldn’t find her. And that’s it.
What were you dreaming about? Do you remember?
I wasn’t dreaming. I didn’t have no dream.
The first time you woke up what time was it?
Three, all I seen was 3, that’s all.
Where did you see the time 3 o’clock?
There is a night stand next to the bed and it’s facing towards the back of the room and it’s red, it says it in red and all I remember seeing is 3, that’s all I remember seeing is 3.
Me,LoL It’s killing me waiting on these things!!!!!!!
My Ispeed is fast but they’re scaring me with all the warnings.lol
LoL Me,I called tech support once and ohh how they make you feel stupid.lol but i told the guy” Hey,I am a dummy but not the biggest dummy in the world i guess” He cracked up and said,don’t worry about it…….So then i didn’t care what he thought!LoL
Thank you, alethea @ 11:09am – I apologize too because I’m afraid my posts sometimes sound challenging (at best) when I don’t mean them to be. This is not the greatest way to communicate that’s for sure. But I do have a lot of respect for your ideas so it’s pretty safe to assume that with my posts to you (although I will try to make my comments sound nicer too! 🙂
Do you know when R commented about whether there was laundry soap? I’m wondering if some of the things he said later may have originated with M. Like in talking to her sometime between the 911 call and whenever we heard it. That could be the case with other things we’ve heard too. Because we don’t really know what M and R told LE when they arrived after the 911 call. Maybe R “picked up” on M’s story to some extent. Or vice versa.
I can certainly see M trying to cover something up at the last minute but why R?
IF he got home when he did, IF he’s complicit in this, then M should have had everything ready to go in time for the 911 call (I would think). Of course maybe R had stuff hidden that M did not know about and/or he was checking to see if other things had been stolen as well as Haleigh or to quickly get rid of a stash that M didn’t know about so LE would not find it. Just thoughts.
looking for Justice said,in February 15th, 2010 at 11:04 am m2c I remember the walk through and when they went into Haleighs room the frame to the bed was in there. It was a white cast iron frame and you could see through it. They did not show a different room that may of been Jrs’. I am not sure if they shared a room or not. Hope this answers your question about the beds.
xxxxxxxxxxxxx morning Looking for justice, I don’t know if it’s of much importance but when my son won custody of his two boys, DCFS made a big deal out of the fact that the boys could share a room but not with Dad…also if one of the children is a girl, then they must have their own room. I guess I don’t know how Florida law regarding this is (they don’t seem to have too many rules) but in Minnesota, this is how it supposed to be. important? IDK
Something that really bugs me now is the rose thing?? how did Misty know where they’d find it….she told them the exact spot??
M2,i know he told TM that there was none and the dryer was full of dirty clothes?
I never did understand the “rose thing”, what was that all about anyway?
The Rose!! I was told when I ask about the rose, that ron and misty used to search the area after dark, and that on one the occassions of searching the rose was seen… very simple and It seems the rose was made into an issue, whereas it really didn’t have any significants.
hypnotist transcript!! we all have to remember, that misty was no under hypnosis when that was made.. Having been put under to stop smoking, I remember how my arms felt like they weighted a ton, and my hands were on my lap.. Misty through the entire session talks with her hands.. and I though gosh why aren’t her arms down and her hands in her lap?? I think Misty scammed them on that, and I also believe she was attempting to use it, as trying to get specific info out.. But, most of it, was misty and her bs.. In MY Opinion!!
Me,during the hypnotism thingy.lol Misty told them there’d be a red plastic rose where Haleigh was? She told them exactly where to find it and they did……but not Haleigh??
http://i32.tinypic.com/1z6zbj7.jpg
According to several news sources, while Misty was undergoing and completely failing the battery of tests being administered, she made a comment that indicated she may know where to search for Haleigh. She told investigators they needed to double-check a patch of ground marked by a single plastic rose. “She said there was a place that was not searched very well and that we should look for a red rose, and she gave us the location,” said Steph Watts, who recorded the sessions for EquuSearch. “We went and we looked, and we found it, and the next day we took Putnam County investigators back there,” Watts said. “I don’t think they are going to dig where the rose is and find the body, but the fact that they went with us shows that they are following up on every lead.” EquuSearch is making plans to return to the area in the near future.
Right Mlee,i know that..but they DID FIND IT! ya know!
I may be mistaken about her being under hyp when she told them this but she did tell them!
CathyJo63 said,in February 15th, 2010 at 11:52 am ,
(snipped from your post.)
“What were you dreaming about? Do you remember?
I wasn’t dreaming. I didn’t have no dream.”
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So the people she claimed to have seen in her non existant dream simply do not exist?
Or is the truth that it was not a dream and she knew exactly who they were?
(Don’t mind me I’m just trying to decipher bass ackwards here.)
Mlee,yea i know she was faking that!!
mlee, Oh yes without a doubt…she was NOT hypnotized…She wasn’t even acting like she was…you could teel at times, she wanted to laugh but knew it would blow her cover!
Yes, the rose was right where she said it would be but that was just a place her and Ron had walked before and I think the rose was just someone’s trash that had blown there.
DID they ever dig under the rose to see if there was anything there?
Hello m2c, we were discussing Rons confirmed work hours a few days ago. You can go to the Archives here at BNN, sept 3rd, 2009 under the headline Timeline improving. It states there that Rons work hours for that day were 4pm until 3:00am. Then you can go to Sept 09/09 by TJ Hart and that is where he stated Rons timeline was getting wobbly because he did not arrive at work until almost 4:30pm. Rons lawyers stated on Nancy Grace that Ron was to be at work at 5pm. I will go with BNN .It would be the most consistent to PDMs normal work schedule for that shift. MOnday – THur 3:30pm – 2am and Fridays 3:30pm until 8:30pm.
I promised as soon as I found it I would let you know.
LoL@Tuff ain’t we all?? LoL
Ohhh yea and once she did say she thinks she saw 4 ppl?? am i right about that or wrong as usual?
Hi treece!
That’s correct CathyJo
mlee said,
in February 15th, 2010 at 6:44 am
Thank you Simon for being honest and direct.. It seems that with little to no new newz, the topics have been thrown back to the beginning. Being very honest with you, the 911 tape throws no new elements into the case, been gone over so many times, nothing to be found. I still have unanswered questions for the dispatch script. I guess there are those that look at it and think, whats so important.. Well the important element, a deputy out of place.. One that was at Tommys at the time of dispatch.. One that had not (yet) made contact with Ron or Misty, one who was verifing with Tommy the last time Haleigh was seen.. Lots of Whys.. and Never an Answer given.. Is this important?
How did she know that Tommy would be the brother of the babysitter of a child gone missing, if she was not yet aware the child had gone missing?? How would she have the time the child went missing, if she had not yet spoke to Ron or Misty? Do you see a time listed on the 911 call? Nooooo.. you don’t.. Now, is this important or not??
And nooo, this script has not been changed or the timing off.. The dispatch tape, script are all mandated by the FCC, no changes are allowed.
So, if you want a mystery to solve while we wait for the next seige of activity.. Try the dispatch tape..
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Great post, great questions, worth repeating, worth searching for factual answers
That’s correct CathyJo.
The August 29th search based on Misty’s “look for a rose” was centered at the Murphy’s Creek Conservation entrance gate on Buffalo Bluff.
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The image below locates the entrance to the Murphy’s Creek gate as well as the 540 yard point from both ends of the trailer. FWIW, the Murphy’s Creek gate is 1,609 yards “as the crow flies” from the front door of the trailer.
http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad257/Papa813_bucket/Searching1.jpg
It looks like you would have to cross the railroad tracks to get to the rose. It’s weird how they lost Haleigh’s scent at the railroad tracks.
It looks like it is a wooded area. Are there any homes near where the rose was found? Imo, Haleigh is there they just didn’t find her. the rose was found under some branches.
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It’s weird how the rose looks like it was found past the railroad tracks (info provided by Misty), there was a sighting of a red truck sitting near the railroad tracks that night (who all has access to a red vehicle?), and the dogs lost Haleigh’s scent at the railroad tracks. WEIRD……But important if you ask me.
Ok now,didn’t Misty say her bro Joe.lol bro joe” had a red truck and sold it right after she went missing?
Could the blanket have gotten wet and Misty put it in the dryer without washing it first because it didn’t smell?
mlee said,in February 15th, 2010 at 6:44 am
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This post you made is very important imo in this case.TY for posted it here.
Cathyjoe, I thought “joe” was her cousin?
I am very curious about the deputy next door,the rose and red truck for some reason as well as the blanket,b/c why would you not wash the sheets,had p on them too surely!
Tommy had the red truck that he sold. Tim Miller found it and called LE. I still can’t believe that they had Ron-Misty’s phone records but never checked out Tommy and didn’t know he was over there later till a few months ago.
Ohhh yes,you are righttt! Cuz joe! Ty
anyone get thode tapes on the new thread to load yet?
The family of missing five-year-old Haleigh Cummings have said that they are terrified that she may have been taken by the cousin of her father’s girlfriend, a convicted pedophile.
The man, whose name has not been released, is currently being questioned about the incident. Family says that he was visiting at the time of the disappearance.
“What we’ve been told is that he’s a sexual pedophile,” Teresa Neves, who is the missing girl’s grandmother, said. “I couldn’t tell you anything about him.”
The man was arrested by police and held for questioning, after an anonymous tip came in from a line in Tennessee, where the cousin is from. It said that a man was in a diner, with a child who looked like Haleigh, and that as they left he was trying to ’shield her from view’.
Police admit that a sexual predator is in custody, and that a car was apprehended in the arrest, but they have given no further details.
The family have publicly pleaded for the safe return of the young girl.
“I want to say to my baby, we love you sweetheart, and we will find you,” Neves said at an emotional press conference.
Haleigh had been asleep in her room when she vanished without a trace.
GramaMonkey said,in February 15th, 2010 at 9:45 am FLE2: 10:08 from this location, going 97, back to Green
That also reads ..FROM THIS LOCATION
to me I read this as being TYLER ..
There definitely are some questionable statements in that transmission.
One year later and we still do not have an explanation to this.
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Theres something missing here imo. This has been tampered with. I mean the call.i have always questioned this.
Hi methinks, yes Joe is her cousin from Tenn.
CathyJo63 said,
in February 15th, 2010 at 11:31 am
M2,Im almost certain the washer was going when r got home and when le got there too!
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no, it wasn’t. that was started by someone that said they saw a police report online with that in there,which no one else seemed to see. Kim P even said that there was no washer running
Vaquera, are you serious? Tommy had a red truck and sold it? and there was a red truck reported in the area on the night haleigh went missing? WTH, thats pretty darn important if it’s true! especially if the dogs lost scent at the railroad tracks! WHOA! I guess I’ll shut my mouth as I know less than I thought about this whole thing!
m2c. We were discussing Ronalds confirmed work hours a few days ago. Go to BNN archives Sept 3rd, 2009 under timeline improving there it states Rons work hours 4pm until 3:00am. TJ Hart states Rons timeline may be getting wobbly in the sept 09/09 under Haleigh Cummings update. Ronalds lawyers say he did not have to be to work until 5pm. PDM work hours for that shift are 3:30pm until 2am. BNN would be more consistent with these hours. TJ says Rons lawyers say he did not get to work until almost 4:30pm. They said on Nancy Grace that Ron always arrived to work 30 – 45 minutes early. Ron was announced along with Crystal as not being suspects on August 17th, 2009. 1/31/2010 on the Talk show with Simon, Jan ,TJ Hart and Levi page it was discussed that the time clocks were in the process of being changed out and possibly someone may have come forward with new info about Ron.
methinks, and at the beginning I think LE was asked numerous times to investigate that truck.
I forgot to mention that over on Arts site the work hours listed are the same as BNN.
Oh Ok,Ty Vaq,you didn’t hear it from me then,lol j/k
Ann,tampered with?
methinks:
THE TRUTH ABOUT THE TRUCK
In the voice analysis interview, Misty points fingers at her brother Tommy, saying he raped her as a child, and could have done something to Haleigh. She then says people claim they saw a red truck near the house that night (we know Tommy was there smoking marijuana earlier that evening). Tommy drove a red truck that he sold after Haleigh disappeared. The day after the interviews, Miller asked Misty if she knew where the truck was. She had mentioned to us she knew who had bought it and Miller wanted to see the location. Ronald and Misty took Miller to the guy’s house who had bought the truck. Although it wasn’t there at the time, Miller returned to the location with me right after and we recorded the address and went to the police with the info. The title was never transferred to the new owner so the truck is still listed in Misty and Tommy’s mother’s name. The police were going to get the truck and process it. Hopefully it’s not too late
http://stephww.wordpress.com/page/7/
Hope this helps
Me,Yes on the voice stress test is where M tells the guy that Jo had a red truck…and sold it even when Mistys dad gave him 500$ to keep it?? he left the day she went missing!
Sorry Ann,I didn’t ask a better way.lol multitaskin is hard,lol Did you mean street name tampered with or??
i thought the police report somewhere said it was running,I’m sure i am the wrong one,lol
AnneInTenn, Wasn’t it you that reported a haleigh sighting? If not, disreguard my queston… Have you heard anymore on this? really curious!!
Me,I am almost certain Holly’s did!
LOL cathyjoe, sorry but when you said multitaskin is hard to do,… I started thinking, sung to the tune of Breaking up is hard to do! sorry I cracked up there momentarily….had to be there , it was funny!
I’ve had plenty of those flashbacks Me,When things get really serious i can’t stop laughing,very innapropriate but just me…..LoL
Actually i liked the song when i was a yungin
They say that multitaskin is hard to do,hard to dooooo but you know that its trueeeee! LoL
Shux we gotta cut up sometime,tired of waitin for tapes,lol
Sorry Anne, yes it was Hollysgma that reported that. I wonder if anything has happened with that . I bet she’s on pins n needles too. especially if they’re not taking her serious. It seems as though they aren’t taking many eye witnesses serious. just wondering.
Cathyjoe…Neil Sedaka! spelled his name wrong though! oops off topic. I’m back now!
I was trying to post some links and it won’t let me,wonder whats up with that?
I also found another article by Art Harris that says Rons lawyers say he worked 5PM til 3AM. It is also written in Sept under Haleigh Cummings last day. I cannot find any other articles at this time to Rons work schedule. If I come across one I will post.
it let me post them one at a time?
Something interesting to read till we get those files…grrrrrrrrrr
CathyJo63 said,in February 15th, 2010 at 1:01 pm Ann,tampered with?
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Yep. jmo
right,was asking cause didn’t know if u meant that or something else…..you know me,hate missing it!
hey guys
does any one have a link w/ misty’s dreamlike state about the rose?…or even the whole voice analys. or hypnosis?..or was that all of it cathyjo63?
Thanks M2C!!
pinkey32/humbled you can go to you tube.com and type in Misty Croslin and you will find it there.
Sorry Pinkey,I didnt c you! If you can’t find it,I will for you!
methinks said,
in February 15th, 2010 at 12:55 pm
Vaquera, are you serious? Tommy had a red truck and sold it? and there was a red truck reported in the area on the night haleigh went missing? WTH, thats pretty darn important if it’s true! especially if the dogs lost scent at the railroad tracks! WHOA! I guess I’ll shut my mouth as I know less than I thought about this whole thing
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after Mistys weekend of tests when she mentioned Tommy had a red pick up truck Tim Miller went and found the damn thing and called LE to get it. the pick up was in Lisa’s name too so I don’t know how he legally sold it right after Haleigh was taken.
For all I know Misty might have told them all this stuff in the 3O plus hours of questioning without an atty.LE had their phone records but never wondered why Ron called Tommy that night?
They didn’t know Tommy was there till he told them the first time after he got arrested..inexcusable detective work from the get go when they pulled out that bedding and threw it on the ramp for the dogs and later when they didn’t take the screen door till 2 weeks after the mobile home was released.
Hi beautiful*adams (cent) Hows yer’ day?
This Daniel Snodgrass wore a home confinement bracelt that alerted when Haleigh went missing?
Hi, looking for justice!
Thank you! I knew some of that. I was just recalling an interview that Terry Shoemaker gave where he said that R was usually around 45 minutes early to work but was not that day.
If I find the article I’ll post it. Not sure if he stated exactly when R got to work that day in that interview, though. Your info on that is right I’m sure.
How the hello did i miss this?
I heard the tapes and they are a little informing. Misty claims Ron got in her head and she is sorry to let him (to her dad)and she is done with guys. She also thinks Lindsy will leave Tommy maybe and asks about it.
Lots of crying and they are confussed about how much time they are going to get. Misty brings up the vigil and tells her dad that the 10 th will be hard. Makes things even more confussing but I still feel they know more and will maybe talk when they realize how long they will be facing. Misty goes to court soon.
Misty even says there may be more arrests made.
Cant wait to see what others think. jmo
Me,if you watch the stress test or ld test Misty took,it’s there..she tell’s the story to the man whose giving her this test!sec,i’ll try to find it for ya!
m2c it is in the sept archives 09/09 written by TJ Hart. He said Terry said closer to 4:30pm. I just know PDM work hours are 3:30pm til 2am. I am not sure which hours are correct and why it is such a problem for a confirmation of his actual hours after a year? You know what I mean?
CathyJo63
My friend does that she started laughing at a funeral during the eulogy. The more serious something is the more calm I am, monotone and no reaction, can be very inappropriate too.
Misty also says DB is running her mouth and sounds like she is mad at her. Also says DB was the biggest sell and that it was all DB and she was just standing there. Sounded like she is throwing DB under the bus to me. jmo
http://mistycroslin.com/2009/08/27/misty-croslin-fails-lie-detector-test/
This one has the rose info too!
Also when you liisten remember Misty never brings up anything about Rons involvement in the drugs. But she does talk about his drug use. jmo
OMG are you serious…….i did too,An old woman fell down a big huge mtn and i laighed and couldn’t stop,I got my butt whipped alot for that! Have had to leave dr’s offices…church…dentist’s…court???.diners,Iswear you name it
the harder i try not too,the harder i laugh and it’s not really funny………I dunno but god i know the feeling,My hubby had to raise his voice to me when the old lady fell down the mtn…just to get me to shut up and still couldn’t so i left!
does it take a long time to dl them tobias?
Vaquera, Thanks for jogging my memory. so many things to remember, but no shelf-space left in my memory bank!LOL I also wondered about why they didn’t take that door sooner…whats up with that? you would think they would need all the entrances and exits removed to proccess them through forensics.
Yea Me,they contaminated the matress by taking it outside……even “I” would know better!
DustyRose said,in February 15th, 2010 at 2:04 pm CathyJo63
My friend does that she started laughing at a funeral during the eulogy. The more serious something is the more calm I am, monotone and no reaction, can be very inappropriate too.
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The sad thing is it was her hubby they buried on the mtn so you know it’s not funny i just don’t know wth happens to me?
30 min. I have fast internet connection. My daughter down loaded them for me while I was at work and I just listen to them 10 min. ago.
Tobias, hey..how did you get them to play?
DustyRose said,in February 15th, 2010 at 2:04 pm CathyJo63
My friend does that she started laughing at a funeral during the eulogy. The more serious something is the more calm I am, monotone and no reaction, can be very inappropriate too.
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The sad thing is it was her hubby they buried on the mtn so you know it’s not funny i just don’t know wth happens to me?
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Shoot i wish i could get quiet!lol
sorry tobias i was typing as you were posting.
o wow,I’m gonna gettem then,lol mine is really fast too,tg!
Find a savy 17 year old thats like my daughter she did it for me while I was at work and then left for her visit to g mas.
I am going to new post. bye
thanxs imma go to u tube…not very computer savy kids on all the time.
looking for Justice: Well, it may be that usually R was very early to work but that day he was not and got there either at 4:30 or 5pm.
Either of those times would have given him time to pick up Haleigh at the bus (IF he did).
I think now that it’s narrowed down to 4:30 (or maybe 5:00) people can work in those times to their theories.
As far as it being hard to pinpoint times: R’s lawyer said 4:30, right? And LE is saying nothing. And PDM is saying nothing. Both of which are understandable to me for different reasons.
Its been reported that the time clocks were being changed over so who knows maybe they were being signed in by a foreman. We do that when there is a power surge and the computers are down for a while. Wont know till LE releases the info for sure. jmo
methinks said,
in February 15th, 2010 at 2:14 pm
Vaquera, Thanks for jogging my memory. so many things to remember, but no shelf-space left in my memory bank!LOL I also wondered about why they didn’t take that door sooner…whats up with that? you would think they would need all the entrances and exits removed to proccess them through forensics.
CathyJo63 said,
in February 15th, 2010 at 2:17 pm
Yea Me,they contaminated the matress by taking it outside……even “I” would know better!
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neither of these things indicate PCSO was trying to solve this case-
they destroy the crime scene and then leave the door the child was obviously carried out
Re: No laundry detergent — This is all I have been able to find so far that was actually reported and not blogged about:
“Excerpt from NANCY GRACE
“Misty Croslin Points Finger at Haleigh`s Mom`s Family
“Aired October 12, 2009 – 20:00:00 ET
“THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
“GRACE: You`re seeing video of Cummings and Croslin`s wedding from the NBC “Today Show.”
“Let`s take a look at some of the inconsistencies in her story. Norm, if you could pull that up for me. First of all, we know there were the inconsistencies about who was in bed that night. First of all, we hear that she`s in bed with both children. Later she says she was in bed with Junior.
“Then she finally said oh, the children were in two separate beds from her. She said she did laundry. No detergent in the home. Claimed to be sleeping, but cops and Cummings said that the beds were made when they got to the home.
“The time frame in which she called the cops, well, that`s not correct. That full screen is not correct. She didn`t call the cops. Cummings made her call the cops. She didn`t voluntarily do that. Why she went to the further bathroom away from the one right beside her bed?”
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The whole excerpt is interesting but the relevant part at the moment is where Miss Nancy says, “She said she did laundry. No detergent in the home. Claimed to be sleeping….”
The only thing that makes sense is that she is saying that Misty was claiming she did laundry but she had to be lying because there was no laundry detergent in the home. Why don’t we ask HER how she knows there was no laundry detergent in the home?
We should keep a list of these things handy so that the next time someone says “Have faith in LE” we can say, “We’re trying but this is why we’re having a problem with that!”
And include the red truck and that presumably they had cell phone records but T never told them he’d been to the house? Instead of “rewarding” him for holding back on that info (by lowering his bail) they should have charged him with obstruction IMO.
Also why was “Tina” allowed to drive off from a drug arrest in a car M had been in that had her purse etc? Or maybe LE stopped her a few blocks away?
Exactly Treece!!!!!
was dl those files,halfway thru the dl i accidently clicked the big red x grrrrrrrrrrrr
That’s a good idea, alethea. Who knows where NG got that info? AH? Gosh knows LE wasn’t talking about specific things like that, right?
Or maybe something R said in another TV show’s interview?
Maybe all M did was throw the peed on blanket in the wash (with or without detergent) and a few other things and calls that “doing laundry.”
What I don’t understand is how the washer and dryer could be full of dirty clothes AND the floor by the backdoor littered with more?
you know how much faith i have in them M2,and for good reason!!
It was reported that the door was dusted for finger prints and they examined the lock. Why would there be a reason to take it? They did later but imo what for? jmo
m2c♥ said,in February 15th, 2010 at 2:47 pm That’s a good idea, alethea. Who knows where NG got that info? AH? Gosh knows LE wasn’t talking about specific things like that, right?
Or maybe something R said in another TV show’s interview?
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Of course there is the possibility that the statement did originate with Ron.
And does anyone know if that was the door Ron punched? jmo
I can’t hardly believe n/g anymore,I never thought she was a one sider till now!
and remember too the other lay who did laundry for them?
lady!!not lay!
methinks said,
in February 15th, 2010 at 1:57 pm
Hi beautiful*adams (cent) Hows yer’ day?
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Hey Methinks, it’s okay at the moment, just not feeling up to 100%. Last fews days were difficult, but I’m here. Hope all Is well with you. Cent
CathyJo – I believe you are thinking of GGma Sykes who brought over a load of clean clothes that evening around 7 (supposedly).
http://www.news4jax.com/video/18700882/index.html
Here’s a link to Misty’s interview where she rambles on about the blankets.
Here, again, is Misty’s account of the blankets-
Quote:
“Ok.. I put her to bed about, you know 8:00 ’cause that’s her bedtime–she has school. I put her to bed and… (pause) Her blanket and my blanket…my blanket was in the van that they took, so we had a blanket hanging on the window and I had to wash that– and her blanket–her blanket was–was she had peed on her blanket the night before, I guess, and I was gonna put it on her but it smelled like pee. So I washed her blanket and I gave her a little sheet to cover up with (voice breaks) and she fell asleep and I went–come in there and put her blanket on her and then I laid down.”
Blanket 1: Her (Haleigh’s) blanket – needed to be washed because “she had peed on” it.
Blanket 2: A blanket that was hanging on the window, that “had to be washed.”
Blanket 3: My (Misty’s) blanket – Was in “the van* that they took.”
*Note: this vehicle (the van) has apparently been processed by LE–location and owner unknown to us at this time.
The one thing i don’t get is where M said she pee’d on it she GUESSED?
m2,thank you,yes…….so many names i do get all fumbled up!
Hi Adam’s……glad you feel better! Hopefully you’ll be feeling all’ better in no time!
I thought the van belonged to either L&T or C&T. But whoever it belonged to had loaned it to the other couple that night and the next day it had scratches on it, right?
Did LE ever look into that?
Also, in the first quotes about the Blankets, I thought M had taken the blanket off the window to cover Haleigh with until she had time to wash Haleigh’s blanket that had pee on it. That is not in the above transcript, though.
tobias said,
in February 15th, 2010 at 2:52 pm
And does anyone know if that was the door Ron punched? jmo
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no, it wasn’t. it was the screen door that was blocked open by the piece of cinder block.
TY Vaquera, wasnt sure what he punched.
We know that LE retrieved a car from the woods and did testing on it.
Could that abandoned car have something to do with the weekend?
We know Joe P claimed that Haleigh had od’ed that weekend.
We know that LE drained a pond near the Mondex.
We know that LE confiscated NayNay’s car from the junkyard and did testing on it. Remember the letter fron NayNay and the portion of it that had been erased. It mentioned something about a fight (clearly).
They also took Ron’s boat…well legally AS’s boat..
Did he go fishing that weekend?
We know he dropped off misty’s clothes on Diane’s lawn (Nay’s mom). He made a few trips looking for Misty. She took off with Nay though.
They got the clothes off the lawn and stuck them in Nay’s trunk.
Later Amber borrowed the car and threw misty’s clothes out of the trunk….don’t know why though.
There was some problem near Hoot Owl Rd though, I think I recall the car getting stuck in the mud. The blue Lincoln had to be pushed out of it and it looked like a VERY large vehicle pushed it and its trunk has a very long horizontal indent and was seriously messed up. It was driven for awhile. Later it was taken to the wrecking yard. LE has it.
Another question to ponder, how many vehicles were wrecked, damaged, stuck or whatever happened?
The abandoned car from the woods
The scratched blue van
NayNay’s vehicle damage
the red truck that Hank sold(?)
Ron got a new car too
Joe’s red truck sold
?? DUNNO WHO BOUGHT a brand new spanking red car two weeks after Haleigh vanished. I would like to know if she traded anything in. She already had two other cars. She owns a red pick up. Tommy owned or used a red pickup. RC had free reign over the red pick up of AS’s and now somebody told me TN drives a red pickup.
That’s what they just released. They said today that they have new information about the days before.
RC refused to talk to them about previous days…telling them it is not necessary to finding Haleigh.
I had never heard he punched a door either!
brb daughters here!
Joe doesnt have a pickup, he rode down to florida with someone and left with a Jennifer in a blue caddy.
Ron didn’t buy a new car after Haleigh went missing. He bought that chevy pickup which he still has and the purple Altima is not working and hasnt been for a long time
Teresa did have a vehicle but it broke down.not sure if it was that red pickup she was in when she met cobra to go search at 210 green lane or not.
nothing more was ever said about the abandoned vehicle in the woods..
the punching of the door came out many, many months later by schauland I believe.
Mrs Sykes did buy a new little SUV which she had planned on buying anyway before Haleigh went missing and traded in her vehicle, she still has the little red pickup though.
Thank you, Vaquera!
That clears things up!
CathyJo63 said,
in February 15th, 2010 at 3:08 pm
Hi Adam’s……glad you feel better! Hopefully you’ll be feeling all’ better in no time
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Hey Cathy, I hope so too. Just waiting for good news about Haleigh!!
TY Vaq! for setting me straight……I figured the source was a reliable one…..sorry! You are prolly right though because I hadn’t heard any of that before yesterday!
So actually just put it out there to discuss but now we don’t haveta! LoL
/Me duck tapes her mouff and i know someone will be glad of that!lol
But i could swear someone had said yesterday they knew an abandoned car was found…someone on this blog?? Oh well,maybe they’ll see your post a too!
OH and too Joe did have a red pickup,thats what Misty told the ld guy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hA_4G9XJ4o0
I think this is the video!
at 3:17…….but she says her brothers van,I may be mistaken that it was joe’s cuz joe is the cousin right?
Yes,it was Tommy who sold the red truck!
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