Elizabeth Olten disappeared on October 21, 2009 when she was on her way home from a friend’s house about a half a mile from her home. Elizabeth has been described by family and friends as a bashful fourth grader. She was the youngest of five children and she loved cats. She was afraid of the dark and would not have normally gone into the woods alone.
Two days after Elizabeth disappeared her body was found after the teenage suspect led authorities to her body in the wooded area which is near her home. Sheriff Greg White of Cole County says the area had been searched previously but she had been very well concealed.
He would not however give any details about how Elizabeth was killed. “We were able to obtain some physical evidence and through some analysis of some of the evidence and in all honesty some written off evidence, we were able to develop a person of interest,†said Sheriff White. “Once we reached that person and interviewed then ultimately they led us to where we’ve discovered Elizabeth’s body.â€
A teenage suspect is now in custody and at first because of her age it wasn’t revealed who she is or if she was male or female. I have to admit I was stunned when I read where ABC News announced it was a 15 year old female. Quite honestly it just took me by surprise for some reason.
The teenage suspect is to appear in court today for a hearing to determine whether she should remain in jail or if she should be released into her family’s custody until her next hearing. Samantha Green of Cole County Juvenile Detention, said, “It will be the judge’s obligation to look at the individual and look at her, excuse me, look at the juvenile’s circumstances.â€
The teen’s attorney, Kurt Valentine, refers to his client as a child and urges the officials to be cautious with their judgments of her. “I would ask that they wait, that they listen to the facts as they come out and not judge quickly,†said Valentine. “Learn about this person, learn about this child. You’re dealing with a child.â€
Family and friends are gathering today for the funeral services of Elizabeth. My heart goes out to her loved ones that she left behind to mourn for her. I pray that God be with them all.
Please remember your prayers for all the missing and abused and murdered children. I pray that Adji Desir and Haleigh Cummings will one day soon be found by Thanksgiving if not before to give us all some more the be thankful for during the upcoming holidays.
Jan Barrett
As a favor to our readers I am posting these web sites:
Stop the abuse and murder of the children in the U.S.
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/16/stop-the-abuse-and-murder-of-the-children-in-the-us
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Follow-up comment rss or Leave a TrackbackJan, thanks for the update and for your love for these innocent children.
I was extremely suprised to hear that it was a 15 year old girl who committed this murder!It just seems like our teens today are spiraling out of control! I know here in volusia county the boys that beat and murdered a homeless man were all tried as adults. The one boy only 14 got 20 years. He did not actually do anything to the man, but he did not go for help or call and report the crime. The 13 and 17 year olds were charged with murder and got life. This is very sad, but they deserved what they got.
When we as a nation remove the “God” factor from our society we set the stage to be viewed as objects. I have read a number of cases where these teens view the victim as a “thing” that got in their way. The more we remove God the higher violence goes. May God help us!!!!
treece, some of them may be looking at others (friends and families) like they do the avatar characters on on-line games. Not really as human beings.
This has nothing to do with removing “God” from our society. This comes from removing self responsibility and self accountability from our society.
What I really find somewhat odd is that LE solved this one so fast and we are coming up on 9 months now that Haleigh Cummings has been missing.
Sad, just sad.
That is so true Treece!!
Native Alien, LE there received a letter giving them the suspects name. This is how they solved it so fast. It was handed to them. I wish this could be the same for Haleigh and many others.
Native, I respect your opinion but to me removing God from our society paved the way to remove “self responsibility and accountability”. If we aren’t responsible to a superior God we self exalt ourselves to having no accountability to a higher power that governs right & wrong.
m2c, I agree there have been a number that say role playing these on-line games have caused them not to see people as human, that life becomes a game to “WIN”. There is so much I don’t understand but I do think this happens.
Native Alien said: “This comes from removing self responsibility and self accountability from our society”.
I completely agree. Today’s narcissistic, self absorbed generation has been allowed to be promiscuous with sex being their #1 goal, music that spews hatred and portrays women as worthless objects or possessions. No wonder they have no values or morals. What will happen to society if this generation keeps spiraling down the same path?
Treece I agree with you again. You put it better into words than I would have. everyone else have very valid points as well.
I am curious to know if this fifteen year old has prob with mental illness dont know what could cause her to snap and kill a child unless it was a bully that got to rough i dont know either way elizabeth deserves justice and i hope it is served. same case with all the kids that are deceased or missing or being sold for sex it is something new every day but yeah it would be great if they were home for holidays
what a tragedy for both families, I always wonder why/how a child could take this to the ultimate extreme how could anyone for that matter, Terese i agree with you about removing god from our schools, and IMO its only gonna get worse kids nowadays have no responsibility, don’t seem to be thankful for much and are becoming way more violent, just think the kid in the store DEMANDING a treat and swearing at their parent could be the next president, i feel sorry for the child’s parent they have to live with their decision of letting their child be the boss, or from letting the child have no consequence’s for their actions, if you really take a look at past times our world is spiraling out of control. IMO children need love, hope , dreams and discipline..consequences for their action and something to believe in eternal life and all the stuff the lord has to offer if you can treat your neighbor with love and respect…sorry for rambling i think this is a horrible tragedy and no one wins in this situation. i hope what i typed makes sense. and god bless both families…
Disagree w/those who are making comments about “God” and “video games”…don’t think that is the root of our problems. The major contributing factor is society as a whole putting their noses into the family environment when it shouldn’t and taking away the ability for parents to discipline their children for wrongdoing. Look, I’m not condoning “abusing” your children, but there is a difference between “abuse” and “discipline.” I was disciplined, not abused. I knew what would be tolerated and didn’t cross the line. I didn’t attend church either, but I never would have dreamed of disrespecting another or stealing, and murder…that was never even a thought. So few kids today seem to know what respect is, but society has made it so they don’t have to abide by even the simplest of household rules…why? They don’t have to. As for putting “God” into the mix…hmmm My 7 year old daughter rides a bus w/a girl her age who attends a catholic school, and this girl has twice taken things intentionally from my daughter and refused to return them. I read a story of a 6 yr old boy who pulled a knife on the bus over some pokemon cards and later threatened to kill the other 2kids…what’d he get? Kicked off the bus…oh no…how about some counseling for this youngster? What do you think he’ll be like as a teenager w/that pathetic consequence for his behavior. Why not take a look at some of the parents in this world who are instilling this behavior and attitudes…lack of morals, etc. That’s where the ultimate responsibility lies from day one!!!!
Thank you Jan, this is so sad.Linda, Treece, you are both so very right
I feel for the family of Elizabeth. I could never imagine what they are going through…every parents worst nightmare. I do hope they find the strength w/in their family unit to make it through the most difficult time they will ever have to go through. As for the teenage murderer…I don’t care one bit what lame excuse she comes up with. There is no excuse for what she did. I do hope they waive her to adult court where she can face life in prison…she deserves that…she also deserves to spend every year for the rest of her life remembering the awful thing she did to this poor girl. Consequences…she deserves a lengthy prison stay!!!!!
I also believe that if the HOME and the SCHOOLS taught responsibiilty, self-respect, civility, kindness,appropriate behavior that children would be better off.
I think the problem with promoting more religion in the home is that it’s been spoiled by the HYPOCRITES who have made that claim and then done horrible things – anyway! And sometimes in His name! They set a really poor example for others who are religious and behave accordingly.
We all know them! Hat wearing, regular church-goers who’d as soon knife the soprano in the choir to get to sing the song she’s been assigned1 LOL! (But not funny)
So religion to me is not an assurance. People have to LIVE by its principles.
I’ll stick my neck out here to suggest that we hold back for now on thoroughly condemning the 15 year old. Of course we should as far as what she did. But we do not know yet why she did it.
We tend to immediately turn the victim into an angel and the killer into the devil.
I’m not saying this is true in this case. It’s only an example of how things can work sometimes. But it’s possible that the victim taunted and berated the older child, could have done any number of hurtful things against her or to tic her off. We know children can be cruel.
Of course I am not saying the victim deserved what she got – or that any victim ever does.
But we have to wait to hear the other side of the story. Why did this happen? It may be thoroughly unfounded and the killer may be the devil. But maybe both are tarnished angels?
Just a thought.
First off, a murderer is the devil.
Second off, a 9 yr old taunting a 15 yr old. Come on now. It might happen but, to an extent of killing? & if so… not making a 15 yr old a murdered because she was “Picked on”…
I’d like to see you tell that 9 year old girl’s parents that.
*murderer…
This just pisses me off. Kids killing kids.
Come on now.
This makes my heart ache.
Over-indulged, spoiled rotten, self absorbed, describes ’em all, this girl, Misty and especially Casey!!!!
Cherry, I think you misunderstood the intent of my post. I was responding to Monique’s wish that the girl have to go to adult court and be put away for life. We don’t know anything at all about the girl who killed Elizabeth. Or the circumstances. So for me it’s too soon to wish for something like that. She may be evil through and through or she may be a kid who temporarily “lost it.” I know that either way she’s still a murderer but I’d like to know more about her before, for example, condemning her to heck for all eternity.
I think being premeditated takes away the “lost it” option.
treece, I didn’t see the part about it being premeditated. Did LE find something to show that?
I missed it! Please let me know.
So that also makes me wonder why?
Also by saying she might have been picked on or lost it, I was just giving examples of things not trying to create theories. I just don’t like jumping to conclusions and condemning an entire person to the worst of the worst without knowing a whole lot more. Not that it makes the crime less horrible. Not that it provides an excuse.
But it can provide a reason.
If it was premeditated we do not know why (do we?) and we do not know anything else about the killer.
And that’s really important to know – especially to prevent things like this from happening.
m2c I read it some place I will try to find it & come back but I thought to say charged as murder 1 has to be premeditated but I could be mistaken. Be back shortly.
m2c, click on the abc news link in Jan’s article above and states it is murder 1. The link below shows murder 1 has to be premeditated.
http://www.lectlaw.com/def2/m053.htm
Its a sad world we live in today, children killing children….non stop sorrow. The hearts of America ache for our children, for their safety and well being….How much more do we have to endure before we realize our children are being exterminated right before our eyes?
Thank you, treece. I had connected the charge with meaning premeditation.
You are welcome m2c but that just left me with 100 other unanswered questions. I didn’t think you were trying to provide an excuse but were wanting to understand the reason. I do too. It
doesn’t justify what this girl has done but it may bring us some understanding of her behavior if we can find out some more info. treece
Yes, treece, that’s exactly what I meant. Something must have been going on – somewhere in her life or with Elizabeth – no matter what it was or even if it was in her imagination – whatever – for the girl to “decide” to commit murder. That’s what I want to know. It could also be something unbelievabley trivial (to us).
i condemn any 15 yr old who bullies a younger child, much less murders them. I am so tired of hearing how someone grew up may affect how they relate or behave today. My grandparents grew up during the Depression. Little to eat, and no jobs make for a harsh upbringing with over stressed and irritable parents (to say the least,) and yet those parents managed to raise a brood of 6 or more children who could contribute to society. My grandparents were whipped with belts, or switches, in such a way that it would be considered child abuse today. Yet they never one time killed anyone. Not because they were bullied; not because they grew up with alcoholism; and not because they were beaten. They knew better. They knew right from wrong regardless of how they were raised, and they respected their neighbors. They didn’t whine about how life was unfair to them, or that no one cared how they felt. They strived for better for their children, and worked their tails off to see that life was better.
There is never a reason to murder a child, and 15 is more than old enough to know this. IMO, she should be tried, and sentenced, as an adult.
I understand WhiskeyMike. I’m just saying that at least I don’t know anything about the 15 year old other than recently learning LE found proof of premeditation. I still want to know why.
I’m not comfortable tossing a rope over a tree until I know a lot more than I do now.
This does NOT mean that I am looking for or will accept excuses of any kind. I just don’t want to make decisions of any kind – including whether she should be tried as an adult – until I know all the facts. (Or as many as LE will let us know)
Agree w/Whiskey Mike !!!! No matter what the rationalization is/was in the mind of this 15year old, the only remotely acceptable reason to take another’s life would be if it came down to self defense. I hardly think that’s the case here, if it were there would be no charge brought against the 15year old. I too am curious to know the reason this girl opted to take the life of Elizabeth, but it isn’t going to change the fact that she cold-heartedly murdered someone. I’m sure this girls attorney is going to paint quite a picture for us of her, and make Elizabeth look like the the “bad seed” here. For Elizabeth’s parents/family that will be extremely difficult to listen to, but I do hope they have the strength to accept this as merely the attorney doing what he/she is paid to do. Elizabeth and her family are the victims here…don’t see how anyone can argue that. While no amount of time in prison or the juvenile system is going to change is going to seem suitable, the juvenile system I believe can only hold her until she is 21. So if that’s the case and she is not waived to adult court, the most she could serve is 6 years (depending on when she turns 16)…hardly acceptable in my opinion, when you consider an adult usually gets 15 to life…sometimes even death.
I just found this news item from late yesterday I guess. Maybe you all saw it already but here it is. The link is below the quote:
“A judge ruled that the 15-year-old girl charged in Elizabeth Olten’s death would remain in juvenile custody until he decides next month whether the first-degree murder case should be tried in adult court.”
http://news.aol.com/article/15-year-old-girl-held-in-slaying-of/734317
Monique, you said, “when you consider an adult usually gets 15 to life…sometimes even death.”
Unfortunately, many adults well over 21 don’t even get anywhere near 15 years for killing a baby or toddler or 6 year old. It’s a screwed up UN-just justice system that we’ve got that’s for sure.
I’d like to see MUCH stronger penalties for those crimes and no parole so they’d have to serve out the sentence.
m2c, I agree and that would eliminate a bunch of the repeat offenders!! So many repeaters are out early on parole when they are caught for the 2nd offense. God only knows how many victims before they are caught again.
treece, I really think that crimes against children should be a special category. Maybe it is and I’m not aware of it.
But there are special categories for all kinds of crimes and crimes against a lot of different groups of people. Having a special category (or is it called “special circumstance?”) can mean stiffer sentences and that’s what are needed – plus no parole.
Does anyone happen to know if any crimes against children are regarded as especially heinous and are in a special category like that – anywhere? In any state?
I understand, m2c, and I respect your resolve to wait out the facts. I am just so tired of children being murdered, and people using the way they were brought up as an excuse. People years ago had it much worse, and the law wasn’t even on their side back then. Half the time it’s total BS anyway. Just an excuse they have learned they can use, and some dadgum lawyer will always come riding in to screech about their poor, helpless, misguided and mistreated background. Baloney!
This girl had a roof over her head, food in her gut, and a cell phone in her hand. She was living with her grandparents, which helped remove her from the “bad upbringing” she was getting. Her victim was a 9 yr old; her sibling’s friend. Probably trusted this 15 yr old like she was her big sister. It isn’t just the fact that this child was murdered. She had her trust, faith, and security violated long before her body expired. Every day we read about another child gone, or one who was almost abducted. I am tired of it. Our greatest natural resource is our prosperity, and we are more concerned with the rights of criminals than we are these precious links to our future. I have lost all capability of trying to understand a motive; what possible motive could there be for killing a 9 yr old child? No matter what kind of life this suspect has lived, Elizabeth is not the blame for it, nor should she have lost her life because of it.
Cruel and unusual punishment? That’s what these children suffer; not the heinous fiends who perpetrate such crimes. It’s time we put the criminals back on bread and water. No air conditioning, no weight room, and no cable. How is it punishment if most are living, and eating, better there than they did at home? At least for those convicted of crime against children. I don’t care how old they are, if it isn’t self defense then it isn’t excusable.
The bleeding hearts have destroyed this country with their whining about criminal rights. For each time they whine, we should shout over them for the victim’s rights. (all jmo)
On a different note, here are some links for crimes against children laws. Hope this helps.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/10/us/10execute.html?ex=1307592000&en=75a37596b25e8dc4&ei=5090&partner=rssus
http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/2003/April/03_ag_266.htm
http://www.prevent-abuse-now.com/law2ac.htm
Whiskey Mike – I agree with everything you said above with my whole heart.
The point of my trying to hold off on judging Elizabeth’s killer until I knew more about everything is that I believe: We as society and as adults have the responsibility for those we consider to be children. When something horrible like this happens we have to ask why so that IF there is something WE should have done then we should take that as our responsibility and fix it. And not just as society but as parents.
The Columbine tragedy woke up a lot of parents around this country, I’m sure, to break down the locked door to their teenager’s room to really see what was going on inside. Maybe it even spurred some parents on to TALK TO their kids!
The Virginia Tech shooter was not a minor but his past showed us what an effed up system we have for mental health and how the ball can be dropped in patient care.
The foster care system may be as or even more broken. And our supposed care for abused kids too. None of those things may be excuses for Elizabeth’s killer but IF they had anything to do with it then WE need to know so WE can shoulder some blame and improve what needs to be improved.
JMO
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m2c said: “…..but IF they had anything to do with it then WE need to know so WE can shoulder some blame and improve what needs to be improved.”
Here is where we differ. I do not believe in the “society should share the blame” idea. Who is this “society”? All of us, as a whole? How can I share blame for someone I never knew?
Personal responsibility has got to be taken. By the perpetrator for the crime; and by the family IF any known or suspected mental illness exists. I say if because we all know that the mental illness card has been played out. There are a lot of folks getting a free ride on the crazy train, and that has to stop too.
No one takes personal responsibility anymore. It is always someone or something else’s fault. I call BS. OK, her father is in prison, and her momma is a druggie (alleged). So are thousand of other kids’ parents, and those children are being raised by their grandparents too. Most are living a better life, as the grandparents come from a generation of selflessness instead of selfishness.
There was a 10 yr old boy whose father walked out on the family, and his mother died a year later. He was placed in a foster home where discipline could be pretty rough. The foster parents provided for him, but never adopted him. The boy grew up to have gambling problems,which led to his dropping out of school and joining the service. His foster mother died, and he was disowned by his foster father due to bitter arguments about his foster father having illegitimate children with women he cheated on his 2nd wife with. His wife died young, and he suffered severe depression and showed signs of being mentally unstable. He became known for his heavy drinking and erratic behavior. He died of alcoholism at the age of 40. He never killed anyone, especially a child.
His name was Edgar Allen Poe.
My point of this narration is that no matter how you grew up, there comes a point of personal responsibility for your actions. Mr. Poe had all of the excuses; abandoned, grew up in a foster home, alcoholism, and mental illness. He may have destroyed his own life, but he did not take an innocent child’s. Others grow up the same way, and choose not to even destroy their own life. It is personal choices; not societal. This girl has to take ownership for the choice she made. The one she planned.
All jmo.
Once again, Whiskey Mike, I agree with you.
Maybe I am not explaining myself well enough.
We as society say we care about kids. But we are or we pretend to be ignorant about how some are treated. We “trust” mental health, foster homes, DCFS etc to do right by the ones in need, the most vulnerable. And then we are “shocked” to hear that a mother drowned her four kids (after being investigated, having a mental illness, she begged for help with the children, made it clear she could not handle it all, being refused and being ignored – forgotten – by DCFS – for a year. We have no right be surprised that she drowned her kids. The system we pay for is broken. That should not have happened. That is what we need to know about. Whether any of that mitigates the mother’s guilt, I do not know. What it does is show a broken system that we need to demand be fixed.
The Virginia Tech shooter did have a real mental illness and individuals and health care providers dropped the ball. He would not have been able to get that gun when he did if they had not.
It takes horrible murders etc to “wake us up” to the failure of the systems that all too often WE PAY FOR!
If we care about children we will demand better and allow more tax dollars to pay for it.
And not just to prevent a killing but to HELP the children and others who are SUFFERING because of it (and who do not turn to crime).
All I wanted to do was know more about the 15 year old and the circumstances of the crime before blindly demanding her life too. What is so wrong about that?
And when I originally said that I wanted to know more before screaming for her to be tried as an adult, and sentenced to life without parole or the death penalty, all I had heard was that a 15 year old had killed a 9 year old. That is all I knew and – I believe – all some other people knew (many of those other people being the ones screaming for her head). I just wanted to know more before jumping on that bandwagon.
I totally understand your wanting to know more, and as i said, I respect that. No wrong in that whatsoever.
I also now see what you mean by societal blame, as far as the system goes. Although it isn’t society’s fault how this child turned out, it is the fault of the system that should have had checks and balances in place to catch these people before something of this magnitude happened. I totally agree. We do need to demand better programs that are followed to the letter, instead of brushed aside for political agenda, or lack of funding. We also need to see that workers are not so overwhelmed by caseloads, that they have to manipulate records stating they did their job. Unacceptable. Boost the economy by creating more positions for caseworkers, and you kill 2 birds with one stone. I understand now what you are saying, and I agree. If we don’t protest the wrong, no one will bother to make it right.
Thank you, Whiskey Mike! Sorry it took so long for me to try to explain my thoughts.
When a bunch of us were talking about the Caylee Anthony case long ago we discussed offering help to mothers who do not want their kids. Instead of screaming at them about how horrible and unnatural they are, if we really cared about kids we’d say, “Okay. Let’s find a way to help you.” Depending on the root of the problem it could be enabling her to give up the child (without blame or shame); or providing other support systems.
Very recently a young single mother told her five year old to smother the 11 month old and she sat and watched. After the baby stopped breathing she called 911. Long story short EMT saved the baby (I hope there isn’t brain damage). But the mother explained that she could not go back to work because she could not afford childcare for the baby so she thought it would be better if the baby was dead.
Well what if there was a “911” kind of number for mothers who are in a jam like that? What if the community HELPED moms who are having a difficult time?
That won’t help the selfish ones who don’t want anyone else to have their child (if they can’t) but it might help some.
Does anyone else think this was a sexually motivated crime? Because I do.
I think that is the issue here in this case, we will see.
Might have started on a dare type of thing, but whatever she did to this girl, it was so bad that the files are sealed. I think she lured her out there, for sure.
I think this crime was terribly heinous & sadistic.
CatToy
m2c,
In the case of the mother who allowed the 2 yr old to smother the infant; I call BS! There are many programs for single women, including one that helps to pay for daycare. How much she would have had to pay would have been based on her income. I also have my doubts as to whether the 2 yr old was even the one to smother his sibling. The baby was almost a yr old, and would have struggled. A bean bag chair is heavy, so I wonder if a 2 yr old could lift it. The baby had been hospitalized 4 times since the end of Sept, and DCF claimed they reported to police that doctors had determined the mother was to blame for the breathing troubles, not the apnea she claimed the child had. I wonder if it was a case of Munchausen by proxy.
Too much is iffy there for me to believe it was simply a case of not affording daycare.
As for the Casey Anthony’s of the world, they would rather see their child dead, than allow anyone else to raise it. Otherwise, she could have simply dropped Caylee off at her parents, and disappeared. We have programs where parents who do not want their child can drop them off at safety spots, such as hospitals or churches, without fear of retribution. The Casey’s of the world would never use them. They don’t care what is best for the child; only how it makes them look. If she could convince her family and friends that her child was abducted (and found murdered), she would be a star. Everyone would have catered to her, and consoled her, and she would not have been labeled as “one of those mothers who gave her child up”. Her image was more important than her baby’s life, IMO. Thankfully, she was not as skilled in deception to that degree as she imagined herself to be. All just my opinions of course.
Personally, I don’t think we are going to ever have programs to stop this madness. It is a selfish world, with kids existing (not being raised) with drug and alcohol addicted parents. Also with parents who have never been taught empathy, or awareness outside of their self. How empathetic will their children be? Until we can bring back compassionate family structure, we will continue to have parents killing children, children killing children, and children killing parents.
CT, I don’t think this was sexually motivated. I think it was just a morbid desire to watch someone die, and to be the one who caused it. Just a dark thrill. All jmo.
CT at 10:40 am – THe files are sealed because the victim and the killer are both minors (and because the judge wants it that way!).
Perhaps the way it happened was really bad but right now that is not the reason the files are sealed.
m2c, you are correct, their age is why the files are sealed. LE can not even release the name of the killer unless a judge says the killer will be tried as an adult. The hearing to determine that decision is later this month. just FYI
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Hi, Whiskey Mike!
You said, about the smothered baby incident, ” The baby had been hospitalized 4 times since the end of Sept, and DCF claimed they reported to police that doctors had determined the mother was to blame for the breathing troubles, not the apnea she claimed the child had.”
That’s what I’m talking about. WE as the tax paying public assume that DCF and hospitals and police etc are all doing what’s necessary to protect children and they are NOT OR the LAW is getting in the way – I don’t know which or maybe it’s both.
But they’re continuing to give parents the benefit of the doubt and over and over again returning children to extremely high risk homes. That’s the kind of thing I want all of us to “wake up to.” Children need more protection and they are not getting it – even when DCF etc is involved. I don’t understand that!
Also, regarding the Elizabeth Olten case, now that I’ve read what happened I am all for trying her murderer as an adult if for no other reason than to keep her locked up for the rest of her life -to die in prison pray heaven. There is no “cure” for whatever is wrong with that girl and even if there was, then there isn’t a punishment more appropriate than LWOP. IMO.
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