Casey Anthony has entered a not guilty plea on the latest 10 check fraud charges that were filed against her last week. She has also refused the right for an arraignment for these charges. Her attorney, Jose Baez has filed a discovery motion because he wants to know exactly what the state officials plan to use in order to take this case into court.
I don’t know, maybe it is just me but I know if this was me, I would be more worried about finding my daughter than keeping myself out of jail. They used the excuse before that Casey needed to be out of jail so she could help find Caylee. What is their excuse now for only being concerned about whether Casey is going to be spending time behind bars or not.
Have they forgotten that there is a little three year old girl missing that they try telling the cops and the public that is still alive? I mean, correct me if I am wrong here but the last time I heard it was only Casey under house arrest wearing an ankle monitor with limited places to go. I don’t recall any ankle bracelets on Cindy, George or Lee’s ankles. How come they aren’t out there looking for Caylee now. If they claim she is still alive and refuse to search swamps for a body, how come they gave up on the plan to drive around with the billboard? It seems like they only actively searched while Casey was still in jail. Well of course if they left their home right now who would wait on Casey at breakfast or lunch times or to rub her feet if they start aching?
I read that the Homeowner’s Association has filed an injunction to keep the protesters outside the Anthony home and force them into an empty lot at the end of the street. .a judge is expected to decide today whether protesters will still be allowed to voice their opinion about this case on the Anthony’s front lawn.
The attorney for the subdivision submitted papers last week and a representative for the 9th judicial circuit said that a judge should rule on their request for temporary injunction to limit protests.
The protesters include some that support the Anthony’s and some that clearly do not. The ones that do not have been yelling some profanity and even one man dropped off a profanity-laced sign in the Anthony yard and then took off in his car. I see all this has gotten out of hand. Someone needs to find little Caylee so there can be an end put to all of this. I, like millions of others would love for her to be found alive and with someone else like Casey has been claiming she is, but I seriously doubt that will happen. I haven’t given up on praying for Caylee to be found so a closure can be given here. She needs to find peace. We still love you Caylee. You are still the main focus here and some people in this world still think finding you are is priority.
Jan Barrett
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she is turning herself in today, got a web cam at police station got to story here:
http://www.local6.com/news/17477658/detail.html
Hi Amy
Well here we go again, she’s back in jail. Maybe this time they will put her in general population, and she will tell the other inmates what she did with Caylee’s body.
I really think the homeowner’s are going to have a problem banning the protesters from public areas. I do think the police should enforce a time limit on the protesters say, between 8:00 A:M:-10 P:M:.
Where is everyone?
Kris
Inqisitive
flowerchid
sabrina
bump
anybody there?
I can see the neighbors’ point of view. This kind of reaction of picketing and squatting in protest isn’t doing anything but inflating Casey’s ego. I would be going crazy were I one of the neighbors. Typical of Casey, though, is her “not guilty” plea. What I don’t understand is how is it that Caylee’s remains have yet to be found. Didn’t cadaver dogs search those overgrown areas near the airport? I want to live to see Caylee convicted of murder.
Their coming over now, Cat 🙂
After the public is done with the initial shock phase of finding her body, the crowds are going to get really mad… The A’s best hope that OCSO keeps her locked up and denied bail..
There is no telling what will happen once the anger phase kicks in…
Elle, re: Laci’s body, I think she was missing for 4 or so months, I’ll check and get back to you..
hi catherine and everyone good to see everyone
Thanks Amy!
Elle: Laci was missing for 4.5 months.. scott was sentenced to lethal injection
catherine, have you heard the news that elle has seen about body found
Wonder if the momster is “pooping bricks” now!
nah, don’t think anything affects her except her own image or maybe sex and attention
thanks for the info – what a long and terrible ordeal that was for all. This is 3 months just about exactly….if it is indeed Caylee.
i don’t think catherine or others who are here has heard about the human remains found
Wonder if the idea of her not waking up to a bevy of misc. men, will be a moment of clairty for her?
They don’t serve dirty martini’s in jail.. can’t even smoke in jails in california anymore 🙂
Perhaps she was warned of the findings before the public and offered protection in jail …..
i’m sure the cops are trying to keep this all close to the vest, i would like to know if there was clothing on the remains
I know speaking of my experience on this blogg for the past many days, we’ve all fretted over this case. Shared so many thoughts, theories and most of all hopes and fears for caylee.
More effort from the blogging community on this site then her momster ever gave, that’s for darn sure…
I’m surprised that the media hasn’t sought out an interview with the boater for details?
right on amy ! i’m sure casey will be protected i’m sure her lawyer will make sure of it
Hey Amy… do you know if everyone from the other page is coming over here?
i have had HLN, CNN on all day and i haven’t heard anything about remains being found
You know what, I haven’t checked, I made another mention prior to leaving…
Got caught up in here, opps 🙂
I’ll go check
all i’ve heard so far is herrican ike, economy, and oj trial
Sabrina,
here’s the website
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/state/orl-remains-found-091508,0,2905635.story
Me neither, Elle, where are you finding this compelling information?
orlandosentinel.com
local6.com
both have had the story on their homepage
i turned on news the minute i woke up befor i even made coffee and haven’t heard about the remains
ok thanks elle, i’ll check it out a little later
It’s under Marion County Investigators on the right side of the homepage
I think we are all going to be holding our breath until we hear something about the remains that were found.
What touches me so deeply is knowing that the video that Cindy took of Caylee on 6/15, when they went to the nursing home was probably Caylees last day on earth. No one knew what was in store for her the next day. So very sad.
It’s not making national news yet, just local news.
in a way i hope it is caylee so all of this can be put to rest then justice can be done
On Local6.com it’s under Boater finds remains near bridge
mmt i agree
Sabrina,
No, I didn’t see any news on a body.
elle said it’s on local6.com and orlandosentinel.com, boater finds human remains
Wonder if momster can still keep her head held high…
What other mom in america would say something like that at a time like this..
Is anyone on local to Orlando? Could you comment on the distance Sharpes Ferry Bridge in Marion County to Orlando Airport area.
Sabrina,
Where was the boater at when he found remains of a body?
local6 – on the rt side of the page
Boater Finds Human Remains Near Bridge
Investigators Search For More Remains
POSTED: 9:50 am EDT September 15, 2008
UPDATED: 9:58 am EDT September 15, 2008
MARION COUNTY, Fla. — A boater on Sunday discovered human remains near the Sharpes Ferry Bridge on the Ocklawaha River in Marion County.
The incident was reported at about 2:25 p.m. after the boater found partial remains on the water’s edge, about 300 yards north of the bridge, Marion County sheriff’s deputies said.
The identity and sex of the remains are unknown, and it’s not known if the remains are that of a child or an adult, deputies said.
Investigators are searching for additional remains with the assistance of two dive teams, K-9 units and field-force units.
Watch Local 6 News for more on this story.
sorry ele i don’t get that channel, wish i did
Sabrina,
It’s an internet site-know you get that 🙂
Is that a big cross the freak is wearing around her neck in the arrest photos from today?
local6.com
orlandosentinel.com
I posted the report twice above folks ….
i would like to know how far that is from ants home, but doesn’t really matter the rivers current could move a body a long way
if you are close to a child they will tell you what they did during the course of a day or while they were away from you who they played with, what they learned and will speak about a baby sitter that they have had for over two years, . my theory is that she was put to sleep in the back of a car and parked at the apartment somewhere, while tot mom was busy with men somewhere else.can’t believe grandparents never knew where the child went orwhat she did when she was with mom?with no job who fed baby when she was with mom at night? with gramps being former policemen and granny a nurse {caring for people}for two years she didnt steal from credit cards or would have caught, so where did money come from? other men at night?maybe that is where the chloroform comes in at?
I just feel like something is going to happen this week. I really hope either way this is over soon.
Ocala is in Marion County. The area does not have a large population. It is horse country.
thanks elle i’ll check it later, thanks for informing all of us, i hope police will be able to determine a drop site for the body
Interesting how they have illuded (sp) to new charges, but not, said what they are yet…
Sabrina,
I hope so too! I had a feeling this week would bring some huge developments.
Catherine,
Thanks for the info. How far is it from where the towers were pinged and the airport area?
MMT,
What also bothers me that Caylee probably spent many nights in strange scary surroundings and not in her lovely safe bedroom with all her toys.
I think the police might have forewarned Casey of the found body and perhaps offered her protection in custody. Maybe not ….
I bet when she stole the gas from her father she drove to Ocala, and filled her gas tank so no one could I.D. her. When were the gas cans stolen? Was it June 24th?
catherine, there was a theory last night that gas cans were used to set body on fire, but i like your theory better
Catherine – I think you may be on to a new theory! It was about 50 gallons of gas, right? I don’t think Ocala is even that far from Orlando, 9 miles or so.
Mary,
That has bothered me too . Caylee was old enough to tell Cindy when pumped for info .
Maybe that was part of the fight on the 15th of June and monster ran out of options to leave Caylee in horrible places and party. Caylee now could communicate..
can’t wait to see NG tonight ! guess i’ll have to wait though but it’s goona be a very anxious day for me !
*It was $50.00 worth of gasoline. At today’s prices not a lot of gallons.
Sabrina,
I think a fire might be noticed and would take too long. doubtful that Casey spent any real time discarding of the evidence – she’s too flaky.
About 60 miles north of Orlando, about an hour and half away from the airport.
Monster may have made a big mistake. The only way to get to Ocala from Orlando is the turnpike, which is a toll road. There are camera’s there, they could check and see if her car was on the tape.
snookers might be another motive for killing caylee, mommy mad cause baby tattled
$50, so about 12 gallons. So just 5 gallon cans. i just can’t imagine casey burning the body, i think she drove with the gas like you said Catherine.
sabrina, I’m not sure if someone already answered you but it’s 64 miles from Orlando to where the remains were found. Oh, and I’m sorry I had you confuse with someone else last night. 🙂
Snookers…yes, you are right. I think Caylee was very happy at the Ants house but the miserable moster had to take her in to the dark side of her own life.
i agree burning theory doesn’t work for me either
Further than I thought – but it would make sense that she wouldn’t want her so close to her home where she expected them to look. And then there’s the river possiblity, of it just moving anyone left there.
we should have another tee shirt sent to that girl, i can’t stand that she’s wearing it! bold to say the least.
not a prob mmt i thought it was funny too…yep my heart breaks for the life casey dragged caylee into
Sure would be wonderful if they could keep her in jail for good this time. I know, I’m dreaming. I don’t want Caylee to be dead but I really think she is and so I hope the remains are her. It sickens me that Casey is just acting like everything is normal. How much you want to bet that the family will still deny that the remains are Caylee if they are. The whole group is on my nerves now. I used to give them the benefit of the doubt but no longer! Now I feel they are all just playing everyone for fools.
Elle,
Yes, I think she used the gas for the car. Then she put that baby in the water. When the police asked her where Caylee was she said, she didn’t know which would not really be a lie to her. Caylee’s body would move in the water.
kimcon… Welcome!
Great thinking when you said:
I think the police might have forewarned Casey of the found body and perhaps offered her protection in custody. Maybe not
It does sound reasonable to me. Maybe LE alerted her attorney who felt for the time being she’s safest in jail. I never thought of that until reading your comment.
i can only imagine caylee crying and wanting to go home and get away from all the strange loud people casey dragging her around then losing it, see casey tell her baby to shut and then shutted her up for good for telling on her to parents
It is an hour and a half drive from Orlando to Marion County.
Also we are assuming that monster drove her car on Caylee’s last trip. She could have one of her beau’s( one that was crazy about her, she does have that power over men I believe) drive to Caylee’s last resting place . Jesse might be capable of doing that.
wouldn’t a college student have access to cloroform ? science classes and photo classes ???
If Caylee is gone, I hope this body they found is hers so we can end this game. Now why did Casey plead not guilty in the check charges? How is that even possible considering the evidence they have? Is she going to claim Amy gave her the checks? What a liar she is.
I found this chilling:
Psychopaths / Sociopaths don’t discriminate who it is they lie to or cheat, there’s no distinction between friend, family and sucker.
Yet, it says, they can appear to be charming and loving and form relationships, but their emotions are all phony. It’s a relationship in name only. These are really their victims.
Am sure BB made that decision for her for undisclosed reasons.
I think she hid her cell phone at the airport to throw everyone off. Then she drove to Ocala. When the police were interviewing her she said she had a cheap Nokia phone that was old. The blackjack phone she says she lost was probably the phone she hid at the airport and that was may have been the phone with the tower pings. She probably drove to Ocala with no phone. The camera’s had to take a photo of her car when she went through the toll booths.
chyeah ! i wouldn’t give my best friend or mother access to my checking acount lol
as disgusting as this sounds….here’s a different article on Marion County News
MARION COUNTY — Authorities are trying to identify human remains found in Marion County.
A boater found the remains in the Ocklawaha River near the Sharpes Ferry Bridge Sunday.
The sheriff’s office found what appeared to be a human torso about 300 yards north of the bridge.
Investigators are still searching for additional remains using search teams, dive teams and police dogs.
They do not yet know the age of the remains found or even whether the remains are that of a male or female.
yp psychopaths mimic human behavior/emotions
i can’t see how an adult torso would resemble a 3 yr old torso
Did anyone see the video of the protester confrontation with Cindy Saturday night where a little boy got his arm slammed in the door, of the car.
I like to read everyones theory, its like a real life Nancy Drew. But, the down side it is real life…
It seems as time goes by the Ants lose interest in looking for or asking for help finding little Caylee. We all have heard Cindy go on and on with the famous words, ” find Caylee” but it doesn’t sound like the heart grieving grandmother hoping to find a child alive. It sound more like she is being a little sarcastic now, as if she is daring us or challenging us to a draw.
Can you hear it ” Find Caylee ” She doesn’t ask for help now… psychologically convienced that she is not alive…
size alone would be telling an aproximate age, at least not a babies torso
Monday Morning Therapist,
From 1 therapist to another – hello!
Sabrina,
Maybe they do have an opinion as to the age, but they would prefer to wait for the info to be verified. I would guess if they can’t tell if it’s female or male, that it could be a child for obvious reasons.
kim are you a therapist ? if so explain the psychos mimicing human / emotions etc…
If you would like to see the videos got to
/www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox and click on the upper left article Casey Anthony back in jail: DCF investigates. It seems that a lot of people who saw that reported the woman to DCF. And when you watch the video the woman doesn’t seem to care that her child is hurt.
Sabrina,
I would and pre sign the check even to a best friend or my mother. Most people are not like monster. Monster obviously did forge signatures and impersonated another person. Plain fraud.
I even gave my adult daughter a credit card on my account in her name and authorized her to use it in case of emergency years ago. She never has abused it and has her own credit card now plus still mine with her name on it.
I fully trust her.
If the police took Monster into protective custody because of this body being found; it’s all over for Casey if it is, in fact, Caylee.
yes you’re right elle, i’m just anxious…did see the little boy getting arm slammed…hi dak
If she did take that baby to Ocala the chances of somebody seeing her near a river are pretty slim the area is not heavily populated. I think they have one mall for the whole town. The area has alot of horse farms, it’s not like a city more like a litte country area.
snookers, you know me… I’m always looking for that thread that ties it together.
So, when you said “Also we are assuming that monster drove her car on Caylee’s last trip. She could have one of her beau’s( one that was crazy about her, she does have that power over men I believe) drive to Caylee’s last resting place . Jesse might be capable of doing that.”
I heard that LE checked out these guys and searched their apartments as well as their cars,etc. No, sign of anything to suspect them of any involvement. So, please tell me what makes you think that? I always think that maybe I missed something along the line.
Regarding Gas, think she would be clever enough to steal gas (siphen) from her friends car into hers?
i do feel for the little boy and hope his arm is okay.
i have also presigned a check for only a couple of people but i also wrote in amount never have given a blank presigned check out
The little boys arm was slammed in between the door when the protestors boyfriend(?) push the women back away from Cindy.
A statement from the boys father stated that the boy was fine and doing alright. No, comment from the mother who got involved with Cindy…
Finally, Cindy with some TRUE EMOTIONS….
Maybe we can piss her off again and she’ll just yell out were Caylee is…or that Casey did it…
No word on the new charges as of yet, very interesting…
Those protesters were dirt balls. Why would you have small kids out at midnght?
Why is Cindy always going outside hammering away, it’s like she looking for a fight. She should just hire those two bodyguards full time.
Wonder if the FBI, is at the corners office…
When I read the report of a body (torso) found, to the right of the article was a story of a man, from Ocala, missing since Labor Day. I think the body remains might be his. I’m still hoping and praying that Caylee is alive. I’m just searching for new info and ran across this blog. I’m not trying to nose in.
catherine, cindy needs the spotlight too that’s where casey got her narcissism
I agree with C being a narcisit…
if it were a mans torso wouldn’t it be hairy not to be confused with a babies torso
Thanks Juducas – I missed that.
Sabrina,
Did you notice that someone is missing from the group?
i think cindy is narcissitic but not as much as casey, casey is more over the edge
Amy said,in September 15th, 2008 at 3:45 pm No word on the new charges as of yet, very interesting…
kimcon22000 said,in September 15th, 2008 at 3:08 pm I think the police might have forewarned Casey of the found body and perhaps offered her protection in custody.
I think the “pending new charges” is for the murder of caylee..
They did say, that there are new charges.. and this time, they didn’t say that the new charges are having to do with economic crimes, which they did last time..
LMAO ! yeah catherine i did notice…and i even said hi to him LOL now catherine be reasonable ROTFLMAO !
Kimcon, I just wonder if she would have accepted that…
Any movement at the Ant’s house?
IAmy,
She would have no choice but to accept it if arrested.
Sabrina,
Thay was very reasoable thinking. LOL
i noticed that too amy, why not say what new charges like before
kimcon, LOL.. I feel so bad. I’m not really a Therapist… I’m a “Therapist wannabe”
Everyone on here knows that if they read several of my comments where I admit that.
I used that name “Monday Night Therapist” as in “Monday Night Quarterback” who knows all the answers to last night’s football game.
In other words… I know the answers AFTER the fact! LOL
I’m a mom and a grandmother and all my life I’ve been especially interested in people’s personalities. I like to know what makes people think they way they do.
Glad to have you aboard!
Can’t wait for Kris to join us.
reasonable thinking leads me to believe catherine is very reasonable ! LOL
juducas,
can you send the link for that article about the Labor Day guy that’s missing…thanks in advance
Folks, I’m sorry if I repeat news items or if I’m behind but I read that Bank of America was the one who filed new charges against Casey. She wrote a check for $400. to pay her phone bill and it was returned to them as NSF. Is this new or not?
Thanks and kudos to you and your lucky kids/grandkids! 🙂
kris is hoot ! i missed her and you last night among others
Now that monster is wearing a Caylee picture around her neck along with her cross. Makes me sick.
Elle, let me find it. I’ll be right back
i’m sure she is following lawyers advice with all the garb she’s wearing, and probably C telling her “here wear this it will bring people to our side and be more sympothetic
uh oh look at HLN hurry up !
HURRY ! HLN about ants case !
HLN?
head line news…breaking news on ants case
Casey Anthony, the 22-year-old mother of 2-year-old Caylee who has been missing since mid-June, turned herself in to the Orange County Jail Monday on charges dealing with “economic crimes.” -FNN
Sabrina, you should always listen to you voice of reason…
just said BREAKING NEWS coming up on casey case
hln = head line news
Keep us in the know, I’m at my office and I don’t have cable here…
I think I’m going to pee in my pants!
Makes sense that they make a statement now.. it’s past 5pm on the east…
last thing the ocsco want to deal with is a bevy of calls all day…
MMT,
Jesse was so vague about the date when she took a shower at his place.
So many unverified blog stories around about Jesse.
Jesse was going to marry her till it was found out by DNA, he was not the father. She treated Jesse horrible I think, but for some reason they remained friends. It was one of the numbers she called on June 16th.
I think he is still nuts about her and would almost do anything for her. Possible the only true caring friend she has.
He is an ex cop and putting Caylee in a heavy multiple contracter garbage bags would leave not scent in his car .Just a gut feeling plus police does not always tell the public everything.
Also somebody said he lawyered up.
For what possible reason??
There is more stuff but not that crucial.
grrr wish they would get on with it
I know, a horrible time for “viagra” commercials!
From NG: 9-15-08
2:23 PM ET – Just spoke to Deputy Carlos Padilla about Casey Anthony’s new charges. Three new charges: petty theft, uttering forged instrument and fraudulent use of personal I.D.
Geesh, getting worried about Pickle… it’s been a long time (since Friday) since she checked in….
Pickle where are thou?
hln just said they’re gonna report on new charges, but went to commercial break grrr, will keep people posted when i learn something…my mind is racing hope i can remember every detail lol
THAT”S IT!!!!!
Oh, man, that only tallies up to 15 years + the 50 from the last 10 charges = 65 years for theft…
now they’re back on ike, i’m on the edge of my seat !
Re: Web cam at the Ant’s house.. seem’s static again.
I am out of here. Too much “reasonable” stuff again.
Snookers,
LOL
snookers, catch you later…
Sorry to take so long. Grand daughter needed attention…..Look under OcalaFl.com. This should get you to it.
Sabrina, anything yet?
It’s an article from the Star Banner, an Ocala newspaper. Sorry, I’ve got too many windows open. I’m a ditz….LOL
still waiting, they seem to be dragging their feet, ratings i guess keeping peole waiting and watching
I wonder who/what snok feels the reason is?
Thought there was no more reason..
just a few comments were made about reason then moved on, not a big deal to me, just a bit of humor no harm no foul, been way past those comments
Sabrina & Amy,
Don’t understand why snookers left?
Two bits of news you may or may not have heard:
1) The new charges against her are:
“According to the Orange County Jail inmate database, she is charged with uttering a forged check, fraudulent use of identification and petty theft of $100 or more. Bond amount for all charges totals $1,250.
2) Also Monday the Department of Children and Family Services said they are investigating an incident between the grandmother of the missing toddler and a protestor over the weekend that resulted in a small boy being injured.
oh, good, I thought they were very recent and i missed them…
I saw those early that gave me the same reason to believe that too.
WHEW 🙂
damn HLN talking about everything else but casey case !
Cat it had nothing to do with you…
This case gets so emotional, and all of our nerves are stirring just waiting for bits of information to come in
It had something to do with a few nights ago…
This case has been both intriguing (sp) and terribly sad for all of us…
juducas: You wrote this and I think you’re right. These must be the new charges because I think the previous 10 charges all related to her theft from Amy H.
juducas wrote: I read that Bank of America was the one who filed new charges against Casey. She wrote a check for $400. to pay her phone bill and it was returned to them as NSF. Is this new or not?
i don’t know catherine especially since those were posted a long time ago, everyone has been talking about other stuff since then
BofA: They don’t make criminal charges against, NFS, do they?
found it – thanks. looks like this site has a bit more detailed reporting. I’ll keep checking it ocala.com is the site if anyone is interested.
Sab, still nothing… I’m going loco over here!
Here’s a link you all might find interesting.
The log from OCSO on the many times they have beeen called to the Anthony’s house..Hummmmm
Posted 09-15-08 02:07 PM Hide Post
http://ocso.com/LinkClick.aspx?link=MediaRelations%2f09…f&tabid=547&mid=1935
I just read, that her “devils advocate” is saying that the OSCO is grandstanding… what does that mean exactly>
snookers… I’m hoping you’ll come back! This message is my response to one of your posts that you wrote to me:
okay snookers… now I know where you’re coming from with your thoughts.
Jesse’s father is a reverend (so, I’m told) and I saw his interview on TV. He was in tears over missing Caylee. He and his wife watched Caylee for the first six months of her life, believing she was their granddaughter. He said he still loved Casey and Caylee and they would come over his house to visit often.
However, he said that he got wind that Casey’s defense team is going to try and blame this all on his son, Jesse. Thus, he got lawyered up. But, we never know in this twist and turn case what is and isn’t the truth. I try and keep an open mind. There could be something that his son isn’t telling him….who knows?
Amy, the charge would not be because there weren’t enough funds. It would be because she forged the check. Even if it was Amy H’s check it was monster who forged it. So if it was Amy’s check that monster bounced, she wasn’t able to steal Amy’s money. What she did was mess with BOA and they don’t like that.
MMT & Snookers (where ever you are)
I didn’t know about any of this… Wow, that’s a bomb shell to me!
my2cents,
C may be in trouble over that injury to the little boy. She went up to the girl when she was in her car and threated her. The guy that held the protester back from Cindy pushed her against the door where the little boy was standing. If C didn’t go up to the protester none of this would have happened. I still think the protesters were wrong to be there at midnight, but Cindy was in the wrong this time. That’s why G said to C you are going to go to jail when they were in the garage. C said, why am I going to go to jail?
MTC: Thanks, that makes sense, whew…
😉
just now showing boys arm getting slammed, it was an accident, casey facing more check fraud charges
If a NSF check is over a certain dollar amount, I believe it is considered criminal. Even her high dollar attorneys don’t have the bucks that Bank of America has….Evidently she’ll have to spend the night in jail. Not long enough….IMHO……
But, Cat, why would C invite everyone over to her home last night (till midnight), she just invites this kind of attention, don’t you think?
IMO
Amy, Todd Black of Monster’s public relations company is accusing the cops of grandstanding because they did not charge her with all the fraud charges at one time. First 10; then the ones today. Just trying to throw mud on the cops.
Folks please see my note above at 4:24
DCF is investigating the incident when the protester’s child got hurt. Hope that mom gets a little jail time too!
Amy,
As of last night there wwre no charges filed. Somebody must have told the protester that she could file a lawsuit against C. You know lawyers are always looking for dollars.
I’ll bet that C skates on the injury to the boy. It really is his mother’s fault. Why does she have him out at 11:30 pm on a school night driving by there and screaming accusations and profanites? And even if C approached the car the woman could have driven away. She did not have to get out and go for her. Yeah, the root of the problem lies with C but I think the real blame goes on that poor kid’s stupid mother (the protester).
DCF is investigating. I have not read that either party has filed charges. In fact earlier I read that neither party filed charges. I think DCF may have seen the footage and thought it ought to be looked into. Will be interesting to see what they decide – if we ever find out.
C went out into the street in a voilent manner aproached the car C shouldn’t have done that, i think the woman should have rolled up window and locked door, yet emotions are high…protesting is our american right, the lady was not on the ants property so C had no reason to buck up on the woman, the boy got arm in car door as mother was being pushed back and restrained, an accident all around for little boy
Just so I’m clear… all that happened today was that the monster, “got slapped” with just one petty theft charge (yippie-sigh)
At least she’ll be in jail tonight, the neighbors can get some rest!
on my fox orlando, it say new charges (with an s – as in plural)…
yeah amy, no mention about the remains…but casey is in jail at least for now, if the parents were smart they would leave her in there
From myfoxorlano…
First time I’ve seen mention that dectec. said that caylee decomop body was in mom’s car!
Detectives have said lab tests show Caylee’s decomposing body was in her mother’s car, and Anthony is their only “person of interest” in the girl’s disappearance.
Miss thang – momster, looked so upset going back to jail… she must think this is such an inconvenience!
Sabrina,
I think we all agree the protesters should not have been there at midnight, but C did go after the protester on public property. The protester was leaving when C went up to her SUV. I think the protester might have a case against C. for at least the medical bills for the child.
Three new charges: petty theft, uttering forged instrument and fraudulent use of personal I.D.
catherine i agree 100% i pretty much said the same thing, or was thinking may not have worded it as well as you did, i think cindy provoked the confrontation, she was told to stay in her yard and keep her mouth shut, but she can’t it’s a compulsion for this family to be in limelight
The torso found in the river is that of a young adult…..not Caylee.
Back into the orange jumpsuit she goes….
Compliments of the fine people or Orange County, Florida!
Oh, yeah, and those lovely, flip flops to show off her recent pedi!
well poopers, in a way was hoping it was caylee so everything could resolved
Her mug shots keep getting worse and worse…
or smug shots lol
Elle, where did you see this? I went on local6.com and it’s the same story.. is it in the orlandosentinal?
OrlandoSentinel.com – Home – 23 mins ago
Marion County Sheriff officials confirmed this afternoon that the human remains found along the banks of the Ocklawaha River near Sharpes Ferry Bridge on Sunday belonged to a young adult.
Amy please see my 4:24 post. It is THREE new charges:
The new charges against her are:
“According to the Orange County Jail inmate database, she is charged with uttering a forged check, fraudulent use of identification and petty theft of $100 or more. Bond amount for all charges totals $1,250.
Amy, I found it on orlandosentinel.com
Kimcon posted it above FYI
I think the protester was at fault BIG time. Her son is HER responsibility, she was the one who put him in harms way. It’s her job to keep him safe. I saw the footage but didn’t pay attention to the time. Did this all happen at mindnight?
I agree with you sabrina that protesting is an American right, however, if this happened at midnight, what ever happened to “Disturbing the Peace?”
Cindy was definitely in the wrong as well but this woman was like a maniac. When you scream obscenities in front of someone’s house, I don’t think that’s considered a peaceful protest. And worst of all… think of the example she is to her son. What is she teaching him? OMG!
i was hoping this would be over soon and that she would be found today.
kimcon, thanks for sharing that news with us. It’s a sad day for some family.
MMT – I agree. In addition to what happened to “Disturbing he Peace”? What happened to “Being a Public Nuisance?” Probably same thing but I would think FL would have some kind of laws like that which are not being enforced.
what’s more terrible is it’s only a torso, and no telling where it came from, will be hard to identify…on a good note for some sigh of pleasure, i just heard on news how a dog dialed 911 to save his owner, remarkable isn’t it, this dog has done the 911 call two other times, he was trained to do it in case his owner has a seizure
MMT
I agree, but I still think she might file charges against C. The little boy was in the SUV, but got out of the car when C came after his mother.
Amy said “Detectives have said lab tests show Caylee’s decomposing body was in her mother’s car, and Anthony is their only “person of interest”
I wonder why they’re not upgrading it to “suspect” The last time I mentioned that someone said she has to be arrested for murder first. That’s not true. Drew Peterson was never charged and LE said he is the only suspect in the case of his missing wife.
Sorry – it happened at 12:30 after midnight Sunday night! This is the first time I saw the whole video and saw the child writhing on the ground in pain and being ignored! No wonder DCF is investigating. The report said the child is fine. And the accident happened when the woman’s older son had to restrain her from going after C (who was coming for her) and the car door got shut. So definitely the mother’s fault.
C rushed the car with fist raised, she could have easly punched the woman, i think the woman was defending herself
kimcon22000 Thank you for the update at 4:44!
“The remains are of a young adult” (not a child!)
Catherine, I’m sure you are absolutely right! I guess I just have this hang-up about having children out at midnight. I’m sure I had to do that with my kids once or twice for some reason.. but to take them to a protest and yell and scream and then pick a fight… I have such a hard time putting my brain around that. LOL
MMT,
Hmmmm. Unless they are considering Zenaida also a person of interest just to satify BB. Doesn’t make sense because the evidence was in the monster’s car.
i don’t have kids but having nieces and nephews they stay up late regardless, most have pc’s in their room and up very late chatting just as we are
Remains found in river confirmed as human
By Joe VanHoose
Star-Banner
Published: Monday, September 15, 2008 at 11:15 a.m.
Last Modified: Monday, September 15, 2008 at 11:23 a.m.
SHARPES FERRY – Marion County sheriff’s officials confirmed Monday that the torso found in the Ocklawaha River on Sunday afternoon is human.
Sheriff’s Office crews arrived at the Sharpes Ferry bridge at daybreak Monday to search for other evidence near where the body was found. The sheriff’s Field Force Team searched the banks of the river while divers felt their way through the muddy water.
“We want to cover all the area between Sharpes Ferry and State Road 40,” said Sheriff’s Office Capt. Jimmy Pogue. “The search is more difficult because of all the recent rain we’ve had. The banks of the river have been extended by 20 feet.”
Pogue said the Sheriff’s Office was called by a boater who found the torso about 300 yards north of the Sharpes Ferry bridge Sunday at about 2:30 p.m. The torso was taken to the Marion County Medical Examiner’s Office, where an autopsy is being performed today. Pogue said it was too early to tell any details about the body.
In the meantime, the sheriff’s officials set up shop on the bridge to organize a full search for any additional evidence.
“We have two boats in the water, plus our 12-member field force team, and we have the helicopter out with spotters in it,” Pogue said. “We want as many eyes on the area as possible.”
Divers in the river had to rely more on their sense of touch than sight as they combed through the black water on Monday.
“You can’t see a thing,” said Sheriff’s Office diver Aaron Levy. “Everything is completely black. It’s all about feel right now.”
MMT – I think the cops are playing it close to the vest plus the Anthonys et al have thrown so many accusations at them throughout this (from the day monster was first arrested) that I doubt they’ll upgrade it to suspect or do much of anything regarding the child neglect charges until something “pops.” You know, until they’re ready for the next step. There’s no percentage in it for them until there is a good reason for it, I guess.
mytwocents, you’re so right! I bet that little boy who was hurt will never know what those two things mean: “Disturbing the Peace” and “Being a Public Nuisance?”
Sad, I hate to see society and our laws deteriorating like that. I couldn’t believe when I saw protesters line up with their chairs facing the Ants house, like they were waiting for a movie to start. Do they even know how goofy they looked? If it wasn’t so sad… it would be funny.
mytwocents, yes, you have a good point there.
It’s probably just me wanting to see everything thrown at her… piece by piece.
I’ll see you guys later. Thanks for making me feel welcome here.
Not to change the subject, but I was re-reading
the 400 page documents that were released to the public. When the police were interviewing one of the girls that went to school with the monster, the girl asked to adopt the baby monster was carrying, because she couldn’t have children.. C said, no. The police asked the girl did she know or ever meet the baby’s father, and the girl said once.
Caylee’s father was a guy by the name of Brian that theny went to school with.
protester are expressing their sadness for precious caylee “anger” for casey and ants, the anger is because of they have used and insulted everyone who has tried to help them…i agree there should be a time and place though, but if the ants are up at minight having a vigil then that’s why protesters are there at that time
oh really catherine that’s the first i’ve heard about the girl/guy school mates…well another example of i don’t want this baby but you can’t have it
Sabrina,
Good point. Why midnight?
it’s not like C&G were in their pj’s…but i do feel sorry for the nieghbors
Exactly! C is the one with the control button.
2cents said it was 12:30 AM
hello….can someone put a link, again, to the 400 page document, or point me in the right direction, i spent almost an hour looking for that darn thing this morning.
i want to read where cindy parents are from? heard this is same place as where those remains were found
i can’t find the documents either easy going
Another interesting fact that I found:
Sociopath’s criminal behavior is shaped by social forces and is the result of a dysfunctional environment.
They are from Ohio and moved down to Florida in 1989. Monster was almost 4 years old.
Here is the discovery release doc
http://elfninosmom.wordpress.com/2008/08/26/casey-anthony-discovery-released-read-the-official-evidence-on-the-case/
MMT,
I can certainly agree with that.
Easy Going,
If you put in a search for Casey Anthony 400 page documents you should find it. The interview was in Part 3, I think.
catherine, did you have to download the documents ?
No, I didn’t have to download the docs.
I think if you go to orlandosentinel.com they have the docs.
thanks catherine…i’m gonna go for bit, need food and gonna look up document while eating…i’ll back on later…bye bye everyone
ok see you later
Okay… last tidbit of the day and then I’m taking an hour break. Someone on here made me laugh, the other day, when they said “This is getting too much like work.” LOL
Anyway…
Psychopath rarely stays in a relationship for the long term, and often is involved with three or four partners at once.
Maybe the new tattoo the monster was going to get was…
“Now, change partners and EVERYBODY POLKA!”
Catherine re your 5:22 post. That was Kiomarie, right? I have to wonder if monster was telling the truth then? If she’s ever told the truth? Would be interesting if the cops tracked down that person to try to find out.
And Kio also said that when they were in school together grade?or middle? that monster said she could not come into her house because her mother (Cindy) did not like hispanics! I have to wonder if that was a lie or the truth?
Also wasn’t it Kio who saw monster again more recently (or in last couple of years) and monster lied to her about where she worked and Kio knew it because Monster said she worked where Kio was working! And Kio told her she needed to “get help.” Too bad Monster didn’t.
MMT,
Still laughing at what you wrote. Too funny.
Hi guys , back again.
I thought the blog was drifting towards imposters again.
Anyway on the lighter side, when I first came to the USA, I was exposed for a short time to those silly soap operas. Thought, right, no way this stuff happens in real life.
Monster’s case with all the tentacles to so many lives outdoes any soap opera plot. Bet those writers are carefully watching this story.
Wonder when the MD’s will walk in. We have the lawyers ,cops, ex cops etc
Hello everyone…I see they threw the monster back in jail again. Wonder how long it will be this time before she gets out again. I’m beginning to think maybe it was at her request through her lawyer because of the stress at home.
Anyone hear anything more about the body remains they found? Was wondering if anything further was leaked to the media?
Is this the newest and most recent blog for everyone? Or is the crew split between here and another?
Not sure if Cindy not liking hispanics statement is true.
Monster might want to prevent her friends from talking to parents since so many lies that she told them could then be exposed.
Is this the most recent blog snookers? Or is everone elsewhere?
Not aware of anybody moving. Some had been on for a long time. Probably off to feed their family who surely must be starving by now
I’m back folks.. Snookers, nice to see you back as well…
Getting ready for NG in 25min…. opening up a bottle of merlot tonight for NG!
Monday Morning Therapist said, in September 15th, 2008 at 5:45 pm
Okay… last tidbit of the day and then I’m taking an hour break. Someone on here made me laugh, the other day, when they said “This is getting too much like work.” LOL
Anyway…
Psychopath rarely stays in a relationship for the long term, and often is involved with three or four partners at once.
Maybe the new tattoo the monster was going to get was…
********
MMT; i think I must of dated someone like this , funny thing is…. His mother reminds me an awful lot of C……
Spooky!
Anyone make any corralation between this torso being found and Casey going back to jail without it seems any fuss about it? I wonder if they may think some things may come to light because of this find. And her safest place would be in jail right now.
Is Nancy Grace on right now? Is this why the blog is so desolate? I hear an echo…echo…echo…when I post.
Kris, Casey was arrested for more economic crimes associated with the checks she stole from Amy. The body is a male adult, not Caylee.
I believe this is just one big joke for Casey. She doesn’t seem to get upset no matter what happens to her. That’s typical of psychopaths and sociopaths.
Monday Morning Therapist, I too would love to know why they won’t upgrade the charges, but, I’ve been hearing that the DA’s are trying to drag this out in hopes to find the body…
Since the charge of suspect will I think, force the DA’s office to show all of their cards, and I think they now prefer to be the illusive ones….
They now have the power and I think little monster is starting to see that her world is getting smaller and smaller and that she rapidly loosing all control.
Perhaps it’s the best approach to get into the pshyc-ee (sp) of a narsasist?
NG will be coming on the air at the top of the hour on CNN
I bet Casey doesn’t even care about the protesters. Sociopaths don’t get anxious. They just live in their own little world. Casey just lets Mommy, Daddy and Big Brother take care of everything while she just cruises through life doing what she wants.
CC: you can start to see the pisssssssed off look on her face in her mug shot… however, her face lacks remorse and contrition…
Kris,
On an earlier post it said that torso belonged to a young adult per orlandosentinel.com .
Will the set a bond? And do you think she will be bailed out again?
I wonder if C&G sleep with one eye open thinking or knowing that they have a cold blooded killer in the room next to them…
Kris,
On an earlier post it said that torso belonged to a young adult per orlandosentinel.com .
Cruised through the posts quickly before dinner …didn’t catch that one. Thanks for letting me know. I still think Equsearch found something though…and its being tested. Just a gut feeling.
The ocala police found another small body part. They have taken it to the lab in Ocala. Lots of activity going on up there with search teams.
C has taken a liking to that 12 year old girl Dakota. The grandmother wants a restraining order against C for texting her grandchild. This is the little girl who was sent to the hospital over stress due to DNA findings. The judge ruled against the grandmother stating that there needs to be 2 incidents to get a restraining order against C. If that was me I would take the phone away from my grandchild, and block C telephone number.
Oh yeah, another bond will be set for just a few bucks, nothing special…
However, I said this earlier… OJ never got busted for killing those two people, however, maybe facing life for this kidnapping/robbery charge/gun charge..
Al Capone was put away for tax charges…
Monster, theft…
Anyone know if there was a video on line of Casey going back into jail? I know alot of reports of it…but I was wondering if it was on video. Just want to see her body language.
Another small body part in oscala… body part – human!?!?!
Kris, where did you see this? do u live in Florida?
Bond is $ 1250.00 which means $ 125.00 gets her out. Why wasn’t she bailed out today?
Amy..When you say (small) body part. Is this exactly how the article reads? Or do they mean like a piece? Or do they mean small as in from possibly a child?
Cat, it was due to paperwork that the jail has to keep her overnight… due process..
Snookers, are you still around?
Amy said,in September 15th, 2008 at 6:54 pm Kris, where did you see this? do u live in Florida?
Where did I see what Amy? No I live quite far from the state of Florida.
Kris,
Go to orlanndosentenial.com the monster’s re-arrest is on there.
Hi Kris, I was referring to a statement that came from Catherine…
If they used the word body part, that tells me that they’re referring to a human body, right?
You can find the newest arrest affidavit(sp) at WFTV.com
thanks, cat 🙂
Amy,
Search Ocala news and click on the news section.
I am the one who lives in Florida not Kris.
Amy,
The article said, small body part.
Yeah….I live in the land of the taxes! Greed ridden politicians, with one of the highest property tax levels of all states.
Don’t feel bad, Kris… I live in California, many of the same issues..
Kris,
Do you live in CA.?
NG is on, are you watching? I am..
Yup, in Monterey..
I am a born cynic…but try to go through life looking at it with rose colored lenses. I personally believe that the down fall of all mankind will be of its own making, and because of the greed of mankind.
*** I knew it was all going downhill when Tim Hortons stopped giving out napkins (only upon request through their drivethroughs)…lol.
Don’t you just love how Momster seems to have the gull to accessorize her out fit with all those bracelets and necklaces!!!
I’ll give you a hint Catherine…. We just lost a sleaze of a governor who is doing no time for philandering with prostitutes. But only they seem to be the ones being punished. Two sets of laws…for two different classes of people it seems. Can you guess now?
That’s funny, LOL!
What is Tim Horton’s? Is it like Mc Donald’s?
A few more necklaces Amy and we can make a chain to string her up in the town square.
Sounds like the Motown man!
New York? Gov. Spitzer
Can I bring my own stone? Just asking 😉
Tim Hortons is one of the biggest doughnut/coffee chains on the east coast and in Canada. Started by Tim Horton and his wife back in the 70’s….He was a Canadian hockey player who died in a car crash. The chain took off and there on every street corner just about.
Catherine said,in September 15th, 2008 at 7:09 pm New York? Gov. Spitzer
Ding, ding, ding….You win the boobie prize. Oh sorry that was already taken by Spitzer! lol.
Amy,
Wasn’t the Motown man a mayor in Chicago?
Oh, government, ain’t it great!!!
There was alot of motown in downtown Detroit area too. Maybe there?
Ohhhh. Yes he was a sleezeball. What ever happened to Ashley Dupree (the call girl)
You know what, I think you’re right…
talk about a thug!!!
Don’t get me going on that topic Amy. I turn red and see stars! I am constantly leaving comments on one of our local tv news stations “asking your opinion forums” that I think I now own stock in the company, and they know me personally by name.
I think they say…lets put a post up on politics and see if that psycho woman frothing from the mouth comes on here again. lol.
Ash, probably is working on her book and payper-view deal..
Watching NG and she just showed monster going into her case worker’s office chewing that frigging gum, again. I just want to slap her and rip that shirt, cross, and photo of Caylee off her body.
Ya know what… I remember a few posters stating that sometimes we tend to stray a bit from the topic at hand. And I have to agree, but ya know what …I also feel this is a very healthy thing to do as well as a stress breaker. I need this to ease the tension from thinking about all this family has done. So I am ok with doing this ocassionally, its healthy, and its good for the soul. Plus we always eventually get back on track too.
Cat, doesn’t she remind you of “Varucka” from charlie and the chocolate factory…?
Yeah…I do sometimes notice the gum she has. I think it’s sort of a Britney Spears thing she has going on. Both seem to chew it like cow cud.
BB wanted to surrender monster with dignity!Give me a break.
Amy said,in September 15th, 2008 at 7:20 pm Cat, doesn’t she remind you of “Varucka” from charlie and the chocolate factory…?
Yes..”I want it! And I want it now!” lol.
I agree, this is an open forum to express thoughts, and theories, in a respectful way…
Plus, a lot of us have been on here for weeks now, and sidebar conversations for a brief moment does happen from time to time but never abused…
Just viewed the video, and to them it sounds like a process that’s becoming old hat. Like they’re getting use to it, and the revolving door that goes along with it. I got the distinct impression from the video she will be out tommorrow or the next day. Why? She isn’t looking for Caylee. Keep her ass in there!
If monster get Judge Strickand he’s going to give her the max. Then BB will appeal.
A caller said on NG put her in gen. pop. and they will get the answers. I LOVE THAT CALLER
What video will be release tomorrow, kris?
Amy said,in September 15th, 2008 at 7:23 pm I agree, this is an open forum to express thoughts, and theories, in a respectful way…
Plus, a lot of us have been on here for weeks now, and sidebar conversations for a brief moment does happen from time to time but never abused…
This is exactly how I feel Amy…But occassionally you get that one who comes on finger shaking (Holier than thou) to chastise everyone to switch tracks again. I say the hell with that, we always manage to find the track ourselves and don’t need preaching to do so. It is healthy and ok to get off track occasionally.
Do you think C or BB dresses monster for the camera’s
Heard that Cat, I love that too… Sounds like she’s been on our blogg..
No Amy..the video on the sentinal showing Casey going back to jail with her lawyer. The officer is talking discussing what is happening and how the process works. It sounded like she will be back out on bail again from that video…unless that miracle happens soon.
Agreed with that…
This case has been very stressful, sorry to say… This little girl has captivated so many from all around… I’m really proud of this site, and have made some very lovely bloggers on it too… every once in awhile, someone who wants to control will come along or even someone from the other camp will visit and try to sway opinion, but they normally flush out…
I just keep praying that Caylee will be found and put to rest..
Did you notice she is wearing her shirt tied on the side now. What’s that about?
Everyone is probably watching NG? Or is that over now?
She always wants to seem sexy and available.. like a neon sign on the vegas strip
Catherine said,in September 15th, 2008 at 7:33 pm Did you notice she is wearing her shirt tied on the side now. What’s that about?
She’s a celebrity now..and she’s trying to create trends. “Let’s go out tonight and do the Casey look with our shirts…that was soooo coooool!”
It’s about half way through…
Why does the monster never say Caylee she always says, my daughter.
Think there will be a flurry of excitement in here then? Everyone will be typing away and joining in tonight?
I find that strange, too… She needs to dis-attach herself from her flesh and blood..
Kris,
I just tied my shirt up, and I’m ready to go.
When she said, my daughter is with someone that I don’t trust, maybe like a gator?
I think so… probably because NG is on and dinner time…
Catherine…Saying Caylee I think personalizes it with her. It’s like any murderer you read about in true crime novels. They try to disassociate themselves with the victim, it makes them less human and that they are not wrong in their choices to kill. Many books I read where the victims managed to get through to their captors on a personal level, by talking to them managed to go free or escape them. Because they then became human in the captors eyes.
Amy,
I agree.
Saying my daughter makes her (Caylee) an object or item rather than a human being. And she also knows she is not lying in saying this because they are related. Disassociation.
Buffulo Bill would always talk to his captures as “They” when address them..
NG is asking what’s with the slow down in the searches..
Put her in general popluation, please. Just for 15 minutes.
Who is NG addressing when she asks this? Do you think she has suspicions too?
The two affiliates for CNN in Florida..
One reporter said that it would be fruitless for Tim Miller to go out and search with out any leads, since the area is so big..
NG thinks it’s bunk that calling off the search is bunk, there’s another reason..
So she (NG) is thinking along the same lines as us cyber-sleuths?
I too think it’s a ploy and smoke screen they created. The search was called off for another reason..and I’m sure BB was down wind of that too. Maybe the reason for the 6 hour long sessions with monster other than everone thinking of the seduction thing, or that there eating brownies all night that she baked! lol.
I know I’m new here but if I don’t say this I’m gonna bust. When I see Casey with that t-shirt on and a rosary around her neck I could just bust thru the tv and B****slap her!!!!!
Why isn’t there one person that saw Zenaida. No one ever saw her ever. Not even her bf’s, Amy, Ricardo, or J. P. who live in Saw Grass Apartments.
Bnty Hntr; brought up a point that I forgot about…
There’s this guy that momster met on line.. he is in the military here in cal. neither of them have meet… She wanted to move out to CA and be with him… then she said to him one day perhaps when I get really drunk, I may call you and tell you…
even on the 26th – mark hopkins, 29 palms in cal. spoked to him many of times the night prior to her car was found at the Amscot..
Sorry……..I live alone and I guess I’m too involved.
juducas
Me too.
Juducas, I know exactly what you’re saying… seems so hypacritical…
NG is off now, anyone with new ideas taken from the show
Catherine said,in September 15th, 2008 at 7:55 pm Why isn’t there one person that saw Zenaida. No one ever saw her ever. Not even her bf’s, Amy, Ricardo, or J. P. who live in Saw Grass Apartments.
That’s because Zenaida is a mythological creature living in Monsters head.
ZENAIDA= PURPLE UNICORN.
Do you think that gum she chews is laced with xanax?
Maybe everyone of her friends could see her if they all took a hit of the same drug.
Hello Judacus…How’d you come by that screen name….Very intersting.
kris i wondered the same thing, this zanny nanny was supose to be babysitter for over a year and no one has ever seen this lady, caylee would have said lots about this imaginary woman if she were real
I don’t know if anyone has ever heard of the children’s book, “Double Trouble Squared”, but there’s a character in the book called “Zanny the Nanny teacher. Maybe that’s where she got the idea of Zaneida. Maybe she just called her a hispanic name because she knew her mom disliked hispanics and was more likely to believe her? Anyone’s guess is as good as mine. I can’t figure thisgirl out!
i never heard of the book, but i got her figured out to be a liar and psychopath
If you put a Y after the D and a L before the ucas…..That’s my real name.
You would think that most granma’s ask their grandkids these types of questions when they visit. Howcome C is not onto this. That should be a reg flag….She should be asking herself this question too…Like flys on poop, unless C’s been just smelling poop too long from monster that she can’t tell the difference between that and roses.
hi judylucas
juducas,
Do you have children? I have grandchildren and
I am always buying them books, but I never heard of that one.
I’ve had her figures for a sociopath also and she’s real good at it.
Thx for clarifying the name Judacus. I’m a very cautious born cynic, and was thinking something else entirely…lol.
you got it judy, been smelling it to long now used to it
When she says she is running out of options what do you think she means by that?
alright kris now you must tell us what you were thinking lol
I mean she going out partying with her friends, cooking instead of looking for Caylee, and sleepig with
Jesse, Ricardo, and Tony.
sabrina said,in September 15th, 2008 at 8:09 pm alright kris now you must tell us what you were thinking lol
Sure ya really want to know…lol. I might hear about it in later posts from the “self appointed moderators”…lol!
Yes, I have several grands. My 8 yo grand brought this book home from the school library, I don’t recall the author but it’s about 2 sets of twins. I’ll try and see if she remembers or if she can get it again. yes, it’s Judy Lucas
catherine that statement be taken many ways, one could be that her lies were catching up with her and better take police a different direction to throw them off some more…also she apologizes for giving them the run around…she’s a complete idiot, just cause you tell a lie and stick to it doesn’t make you smart, takes no brains to tell the stupid lies she’s made up
Hey, that name handle is so creative!!! Great job!
jud,
I look it up online, thanks.
kris you mean the blog police LOL i could care less about them *giggles*
Hey Judacus…I googled that book you listed above and read the name in it. Zanny…very weird also weird that it says she gets help from a young lawyer and falls in love with him too.
Sabrina, I’m a firm believer that most people are not smart enough to be a good liar. It’s all gonna come tumbling down on her. I wish I was back in Orlando to see it happen..!
Yeah Sabrina ..you know the select few who ocassionally pop in..lol.
WOW @ that book how ironic or coincedental hmmm
KRis,
Your not thinking what I’m thinking, are you?
Boy this case gets better all the . have you heard the lastest that 2 officers have come forward and said they had relations with Casey.
What ya thinkin’ Catherine?
For some reason, the BNTY HNTR seems to think that this military guy knows a lot about what happens…
He also thinks that there are no new tips coming in and that C&G are basidly telling mis-truths on this too…
In addition tonight, he said, as soon as C&G heard the DNA results their attitudes have changed…
again, very compelling..
Kris……I’m glad you could find it. I don’t know if Emily would have remembered it or not. She reads so much but she’s pretty smart. LOL I love her a LOT………
Dak…my boy! What you been up to?
haven’t the 2 officers thing yet, where did you find that dak…yeah catherine i think kris is thinking the same thing we are thinking, i love it when minds come together lol
I am falling off my chair right now.
Just relaxing. Although Saturday I spent 6 hour in the ER.
off channel 9 news in orlando.
Did you burn yourself making pancakes for the kids Dak? lol.
Kris,
You know. Oh hi Dak3.
Sorry to hear that ;-(
Dakdude3……I read the same thing today, just can’t remember where. It was on one of the Orlando tv stations I’m pretty sure.
Dak, you need to buy the pancakes you put in the toaster. Where’s your wife? Tell her to make the kids pancakes.
amy, padilla said the ants changed attitude after casey got home from first arrest that he believe bro lee got something out of her then told C then the offense got turned on…yep compelling…and the evasion tactics casey plays in interrogation as well
No Kris I went in with severe abdominal pain and they thought it might me appendicitis, but turned out to be a really bad urinary infection.
I can tell you Catherine…but I would need to know forgiveness before I tell you from Judy first. She just doesn’t know me well enough to know that I am a born cynic, detective, and comedian all in one.
You’re not talking about me? I thought I must have run people off and re-read my posting, didn’t think I said anything too bad?
Actually the morning I ended up in the ER my wife was taking the kids to Grandmas.
Leonard sures knows alot, doesn’t he? Do you think he is still working the case for somebody?
Catherine asked what Casey meant by she was out of options.
Who knows what she meant by anything. She didn’t make any sense at all.
Listening to her voice, you can tell she didn’t take the interrogation seriously. She could have been in a club visiting with men she was picking up. She flirted and said she hoped she didn’t give them too bad of a time.
What got me the most was that she didn’t flinch when they asked her if she was a cold blooded killer and mentioned Caylee could be lying out there decomposing or thrown in a garbage can.
Any other mother would have burst into tears and sobbed,
“Don’t say that.” Instead, her voice never changed and she kept right on with her lies and alibis.
I noticed she kept repeating that “Caylee was with somebody” and “Zenaida Gonzalez was the last person who saw Caylee” as if she’d watched true crime or detective shows and had practiced what to say.
I bet what really shocked her was when they put the handcuffs on her and hauled her to jail. Heck, she thought after her little visit with the cops she was going out clubbing and sleeping with Tony that night.
Hey……I’m cool with everyone. You’re secrets are safe on-line….FOMCL!!
I’m thinking Padilla is only still in this for the money. Just an opinion.
Forgive me Dak..I can’t help myself (my inner lab tech is speaking)…You have to keep your pee pee away from the monster.
Yeah Kris maybe your right and it wasn’t all that good either(haha).
no no amy never you i like talking you no one is talking about you hun…sorry to hear that dak, hope you feel better now
I feel fine now.
That’s good to hear Dak…I always say McConkey, Blood, and Chocolate will culture out anything! lol.
So what does everyone think about what NG said, that even with all the fraud charges which add up to about 67 years she may only serve acouple of them.
concerned in another statement casey said she had dropped caylee off on steps at apartment complex
Thanks, Sabrina – I really enjoy this place 🙂
I think the bnty hntr is really just trying to muster up comment to get his face on NG… do you think he gets paid to be on NG?
If the BH isn’t getting paid he’s probably doing it for publicity. Because boy did he change his tune really quick.
i think NG is probably right, that’s if casey’s lawyer is good enough / better than prosicuter
I think some of the people were involved from the beginning to get into the limelight (money included). Those folks would include Padilla..Butterball and possibly a few others. Now the Ants themselves seem to have jumped on the gravy train too.
Dak, I hope not, but it sure is possible that she can get a long probationary period.. sad, isn’t it!
amy, i think everyone on NG gets payed lol
Yeah, you really got to love our judicial system.
Chooo Chooo , All aboard!
Did we ever find out what leeeeee does for a living?
Guys, it was great chatting with all of you and hearing your opinions but I have to get up early to go with my daughter to get her IV iron treatments and will be gone til late afternoon. I’ll check back in tomorrow…..Later gators…Oh! bad choice of words there (gator). That was really bad taste.
Yeah Amy he’s Casey’s pimp(HAha)
Bye..Judy.
bye bye juucas
Hi gals!
Boy, my timing is great isn’t it Kris?
Hey….Where’s IQ been? Anyone know?
i couldn’t have said it better kris
Holy crap it’s Mandi!
LOL….yep in the flesh!
sabrina said, in September 15th, 2008 at 5:23 pm
** I agree with you…
haven’t seen iq for a couple of days, and alsp flowerchild and someone else seems to be missing
Did you catch up on some of the posts Mandi? I take it your company left, or did you get a break?
Just heard the name Mark Hawkins for the 1st time tonight on NG…who the heck is he, anyone know what that’s all about?
Wanted to tell IQ about the needle I took in the neck at the docs today. She had a similar problem as mine. OUCHHH!
Kris said,in September 15th, 2008 at 7:42 pm Saying my daughter makes her (Caylee) an object or item rather than a human being. And she also knows she is not lying in saying this because they are related. Disassociation.
Have noticed this also from the beginning, Kris. The first day when Lee finally gets her to tell them SOMETHING, instead of saying ” OMG Caylee’s been kidnapped” Her very words were “I have not seen my daughter in 31 days”
Lee later told that on the stand and it sounded even more stupid from him on the stand then than it did the day she said it.
Have you noticed too, listening to the tapes, that she seems to actually be BORED with questions about Caylee? Also that jumping in to answer with yet another lie before the whole question has even been asked?
That name sounds familiar too Mandi. Just can’t place it with the case.
Hi Mandy, Bye, Juducas!
Yes, my son was here for the weekend but he’s gone now…haven’t read any posts today….what’s new besides re-arrest & monster back in jail…anything big?
Sabrina, Casey did say she left her daughter on the steps at an apartment complex and that Zenaida came out and got her. She knew they knew that the apartment she claimed Zenaida lived in had been vacant for six months. That’s why she said she left her on the steps.
On Nancy Grace, Padilla mentioned said there may have been a connection between the Zenaida who made the application at the Saw Grass Apartments and some guy who worked at a place where Lee and Casey went.
However, Casey said on the tapes the fictional Zenaida who supposedly watched Caylee for two years never had any children. That Zenaida said she had at least three children and both Casey and Cindy said it wasn’t the same Zenaida. Casey also claimed the Zenaida whom she made up worked at Universal. The cops found no Zenaida ever worked at Universal. No Jeff, whom Casey claimed introduced her to Zenaida, worked at Universal.
I had to laugh at how she just makes up names left and right. She even named the fictional Zenaida’s two roommates and streets of the house where they lived, which all turned out to be a lie.
She should be a fiction writer the way she makes up people, places and events in her life that never exist.
gumshoe…those tapes were tell all. Didn’t even need to see body language to just hear the lie in her voice. Definitely gone over, and over in her mind before saying it outloud.
Mark is the navy guy who lives in Calif. that momster met on line and wanted to move out to Cali to be with
thanks amy…oh the people we are talking about are the ones who like to appoint them self as blog police and pick out words from an entire paragraph and repost them and complain, it was done to me one time…next thing ya know we’ll be getting graded for spelling typo errors…you have never done or said anything as such, the blog police are just mean spirited people
Concerned,
why all the uh huh when the police are questioning her. Then she goes to yes, sir
Regarding posts by Kris at 7:19pm and Amy at 7:23pm
I’m the person who wrote about “straying a bit from the topic at hand.” Before that people were screaming “freedom of speech” as the excuse and right for behaving in a very disrespectful and hurtful way to other posters. Of course we have freedom of speech but it’s what we do with it that matters to me.
I guess I’m the one you sneered at as the internet police or holier than thou or whatever. Fine. I don’t care. I was only trying to stop the nastiness. That’s as much my right as whoever thinks it’s their right to BE nasty.
Suggesting that we “stay on topic” was my way of asking that we not attack each other, swear at each other, single certain posters out for criticism, make snide and cruel comments about others on this blog and then continue to do so with very poorly veiled “sidebars.” It started to happen again today and I was glad to see some people wanted to drop it.
Talk about what’s going to bring down mankind –it’s the lack of “kindness in man.”
If I want a blog like that I’ll find one populated by snarky teenagers who really are 14 – 16 years old. Fortunately most of the people on this blog are pretty nice intelligent adults and I’m glad to know them.
Maybe mark was with the marines.. not sure..
he spoke to momster many times the night prior to her leaving the car at the amscot… she also mentioned to him that one day when she gets real drunk, she’ll one day drink and dial and tell him everything…
BNTY HNTR seems to think this guy knows something…
How the hell do you meet someone on line and then wish to move to be with them? She really must have been desperate to get away from C&G.
That is not even rational thinking! If that were ok….then look out Dak…I’m on the next plane! lol.
yes exactly concerned i thought casey may have been trying to set up an abducted child defense by leaving her on the steps, which i wouldn’t believe
Amy, I don’t think we ever did find out what Lee does for a living. Obviously nothing as long as he’s been at the Ant’s.
Is he on vacation? Extended leave? Quit his job? Who is paying all the car payments and car ins.?? (and gas, for that matter)
Actually funny thing about meeting online is I met my first wife online and we were married six months later.
I thought it was Jessie Grund she said that too about “getting drunk and then I’ll call and tell you”….Never heard of this Mark before tonight…have Police questioned him? Also, please clarify if anyone can, did monster & Jessie actually GO to the beach afterall? I thought not but I’ve seen others that say they did…
Sabrina, I felt like that, too!
Some take things far too seriously…
mytwocents…I personally did not remember anyone in specific when I posted that. I think you are taking it way too personally. If you truly ever could meet me in the flesh, you would find that I am about the most happiest go lucky person you ever met. I say things comically to avoid stresses of everyday life and I never try to personally offend anyone. This is just me and my genetic makeup (compliments of my father). No offense intended at any one individual. Sry.
Mytwocents, Provo! I think that needed to be said.
Re:her online match making..
I think online matches have been wonderful for many people…
I wonder, why she was looking to hook up when she seems to have had a bevy of male contenders…
Catherine, Casey reminds me of Drew Peterson and his bizarre behavior when his wife Stacey went missing.
He was laughing and signing autographs just like Casey was smiling and waving at her parents and high fiving her brother.
Drew kept saying he didn’t know where Stacy was but he knew she ran off with a man. How would he know that? Just like Casey kept saying she didn’t know where her daughter was but she knew she was “with someone” and was “close by” and “would be home for her birthday.”
Only a cold blooded killer could behave as they two have.
I’m getting off to a bad start with my typing… I hope you know I meant Bravo!
Monday Morning Therapist said,in September 15th, 2008 at 8:48 pm Mytwocents, Provo! I think that needed to be said.
You are mad at me two Therapist?
Well said, Kris..
actually me too kris, but can be riled as well at times of stress, and me as well don’t remember the name of the person who zoomed in on me that day
Good evening Therapist….
Concerned, it’s eerie how both Drew & monster seem extremely confident that neither Stacy or Caylee will be found….
Mandi, I think you’re right, I may have my names crossed, so many to remember…
momster may not have worked, but boy she sure knew how to meet guys..
Interesting to see what the FBI produces on her computer…
After watching NC tonight, the first thing I want to say is… What kind of dignity is there in being arrested for stealing.
Plus, did anyone happen to catch the monster on the interrogation tape when one of the investigators said… “Everything you told me was a lie, right?” The monster started to say
“I’m st…” Then she stopped short and changed it to “I don’t know where my daughter is at.” But, to me it sounded like she was ready to say “I’m sticking to my story.” Hey, it’s a story alright… a fairytale.
I’m sorry Kris, I took what you said personally too.
OK..I think I heard a pin drop…
I wonder if monster said she left Caylee with Zenaida at the stairwell instead of taking Caylee into the apartment so she did not have to describe this imaginary apartment.
When I took my kids to a babysitter , I would always go in when I picked them up and sometimes in the morning too, when I had time..
i noticed how casey said she hadn’t lied about everything yet did offer to tell the truth about what she lied about
Can we move on… I think we all share very similar positions..
Sometimes, we differ and that’s okay, too!
but if your child was only 3 yrs old wouldn’t walk her to the door or at least wait til she went inside ? casey said dropped her off on the steps
ok I made it, I went to a different blog and noone was talking found you all here lol
One thing that jumped out at me on NG tonight was one of the “defense” type lawyers complaining that the cops were interrogating monster without mirandizing her first. Fortunately NG said she’d seen something in writing that showed she had been mirandized. I sure hope so! Because that’s BoBo’s dream come true! All those tapes could be tossed out and who knows what other damage could be done to the case against her.
The thing that confused me is that I have never heard of Mark the Marine – that Padilla mentioned. Have any of you heard of him before?
If I remember correctly monster told Jesse Grund not to talk to her parents if they called him and she’d “explain later sometime when she was drunk.” But maybe she said the same thing to Mark.
Does Padilla have the phone records? How does he know who she talked to and when? I guess there’s lots of stuff we don’t know. But I think he was right about the turnaround that C, G and L did after the lab results came back showing a dead body had been in the car.
hello all, i can’t wait to see what happens tomorrow with her appearance in court
what the babysitter had over slept, or had an emergency and wasn’t there, i should say suposed babysitter / imaginary babysitter
Wouldn’t you think C would insist on knowing who was watching Caylee? C would want the address and telephone number, so she could pick her up. C is too controlling not to get that info from the monster. I just don’t get how they give monster all this support now, when C told everybody that her daughter is a liar, and a thief. Why would C believe the monster about Zanny the nanny.
C. hated latino’s, so why when she heard the name Zenaida Fernandez Gonzolez did she allow someone latino to watch Caylee? C. wouldn’t even allow monster’s latino friends to come into the house.
Welcome back, pammy!
Do you think she’ll even say anything tomorrow… just her normal poker face…
Could be Snookers…but I think she said stairwell after the detective told her about the apt. surviellance tape
hi pammy glad you found us
I didn’t know C. didn’t like latinos? Where did you find that, cat?
i noticed that also in the tapes that she only stated that she dropped her off on the steps, and really never saying that she ‘handed’ her over or ‘dropped’ her off with zannynanny or when into apartment
they really didn’t question too far into that, something missing on those tapes?
however at that point they knew it was a lie
hi, i missed about half hour of NG so gonna go catch alittle she just came on but will be back. although I heard the entire tapes already and looks like a rehash of the tapes tonight, nothing really new.. i did see again that protester fight and it did disgust me to see the poor little boy just shoved on the ground, this case is causing so much problems. as far as monster, I heard BH say tonight she mentions juliett in the interrogation and he said what i was thinking too, isn’t juliett lewis an actress? lol maybe she is insane.. she did mention 2 people who can verify her story about nanny, but unbelievably the 2 people don’t exsist ot can be found!
She made some intersting changes in her story all through the interview regarding her visit to universal… and re: her friends that worked their and the office.. she kept sticking to the same key 10 cent words in each statement but changing just a few verbs..
Mandi, you’re on to something. Both Drew and Casey do seem confident that the bodies will never be found.
I believe Casey is cold blooded enough to have carried out a very well planned execution of “her daughter” to 1-Get back at her mother because her mother finally had it when she emptied her grandmother’s bank account and 2- because if she was rid of “her daughter” she could be free to party and sleep around at will.
I think her friend Kristine may have been right that Casey chloroformed Caylee and/or drowned her in the pool then was going to bury her in the backyard but being afraid the cops would find the body fed “her daughter” to the alligators.
Hi Mandi!
Every time I hear the monster’s voice I get riled up over her lack of emotion. I don’t know a person alive who would have that indignant tone in their voice when their child is missing… except the person who took the child’s life.
And the way she knotted her shirt today… she was trying to make herself look as sexy as possible. I’m sure it was for BB. I’m also sure he thinks of her as trash… but he wants to become a well known, high priced attorney. So, he has to bite the bullet and defend her.
I also bet that C makes her wear that shirt and cross and the monster tries everything to accessories it to look appealing to guys. BB’s her target right now.
one of Casey’s friends in his statement said that Cindy didn’t like hispanics and didn’t want casey hanging around them, wouldn’t allow her to have them in her home
i had heard the juliette lewis name befor as well but didn’t know she was talking about the actress, hmmm maybe casey lives in fantasy land
I got an impression tonight from the shrink on NG and BH and my own thoughts, maybe she is just plain insane, has been, and lives in a world of psychosis…its not hard to imagine. I dont get real personal on here, but what I do for a living, is I take care of mentally and physically handicapped people. I have seen some completely normal people have psychotic breaks over less than this…they never come back and they live like everything is normal in their lives.. but as sane people we know they aren’t which is why we are there for them.. just some insight to the minds of mentally ill people
MMT,
I did catch that little slip monster made. I TIVO NG so I can go back and listen for the lttle things I might have missed.
Monster said, Zanny watched two other children. Why haven’t the mother’s of those children come forward.
the knotting of the tshirt also sickens me, I mean who is thinking of how sexy they look? again, a mentally ill woman
Catherine,
I am not sure if C even hated hispanics. Maybe this way , monster could keep her friends away from her house and talking to her mother.
Many lies would be exposed that she told her friends if they would talk to Cindy.
Monster is very cunning and tries to cover all angles.
If I was missing my child, I wouldn’t even think about putting on make-up… I would be just fine putting on a potato sack, rather then jewelry.
Juliett Lewis is an actress. She played a part in “Natural Born Killers” sounds like monster was her understudy.
mmt, casey said she couldn’t cry every ten seconds like she wanted to do, well how can she keep from crying, you’re right…when my brother was missing i cried every day, several times a day just the least little thing would set me off
Catherine, I don’t think Cindy had as much control over Caylee as we thought. Nancy Grace asked a friend of Casey’s who was on her first show who took care of Caylee: Cindy or Casey? The friend said Caylee was always with Casey. Even Cindy said Casey would leave every morning saying she was going to work and taking Caylee to the nanny. God only knows where she went and what she did with Caylee.
yah i noticed her nicely painted make too… again i am beginning to think insane…not that this would excuse what she done in my mind AT ALL… but some of her speaking and how shes talking in the tapes, like “IM TRYING TO HELP YOU, I’M REACHING OUT” and they cut her off but you know it makes no sense even what shes saying
not many of the panel tonight think Casey will get much jail time on all the charges so far–if any at all. They say because they are first offenses, maybe 6 -2months and/or probation.
NG argued the judge could sentence her to the full 67 years, but none of the panel thinks so.
Gumshoe, wow, thanks for the info..
They certainly have a lot of things that they don’t like in the A’s household.. Wonder if they ever felt thankful for anything?
thanks pammy point well taken, and i agree about the knotted shirt thing i’ve pointed that out many times before lol
Think it’s time for a hiatus, check on my other case. See ya.
Yeah, i think the reality is, if they just try to charge her with what they have currently, she’s likely not going to get much time…
Nobody ever gets the max, especially a first time offender. I was expecting BB to so a plea bargain deal and most of those economic charges would be dropped and monster ending up with probation /fine and restitution. Since these charges are fairly cut and dry to prove by the prosecution.
are you leaving kris ?
Bye, Kris!
Concerned, that’s one of my theories as well but when did her friend Kristine say this? I thought Kristine was still befriending the monster to this day?
Yes Therapist, and her chomping on that gum like she does and C too….looks so trashy. Who is BB, is that what you’re calling Baez now?
See what happens when I don’t blog for a few days!
prosecution will be asking for the max, but not likely to get it…has anyone thought that BB may have had a psyghiatrist in his office all those days casey was going in order to evaluate her
Gumshoe, you know someone said something about that, in here, yesterday and it really made me think. I don’t remember their exact words but it was something like… “Maybe Casey was lying to certain people about Cindy not liking hispanics.”
I could see Casey saying that as an excuse to not have them over to the house. I think Casey liked going out to party so that C&G could never see how hard she did party. I bet she rarely brought her “friends / victims” home.
yah whats with the gum chewing by all? lol… my worst fear is that caylee is never going to be found, i also pray they dont file an insanity defense..i watched some other court tv shows last night and some other cases, one woman (sane) plotted to have some people killed they caught her before the deed was done, and she pled insane in the trial and served 3 years only…by saying when i went and paid for the hit i must have been insane she said..just like that they didnt covict for the full term
yes mmt BB is baez lol and i hate seeing anyone chawing on gum lol it does look awful and sounds awful too lol
Nancy Grace said Casey wouldn’t spend much time on the fraud charges even if the judge gave her 63 years. She also said that the prosecution has more than enough evidence to try Casey on murder. I believe Casey will be charged with murder before November when her child neglect trial is scheduled.
The police and prosecutive have asked Casey over and over to come forward and tell them if it was an accident and she never did. It wouldn’t make sense if that was her defense.
I’m sure the defense will be her BS story that she left “her daughter” with someone she trusted and she was kidnapped. The one attorney said on 20/20 that she is still sticking to her Zenaida story and believes Caylee is alive.
She’s only saying that to create reasonable doubt that Caylee is dead. The prosecution has proof she is dead and the defense has no proof she is alive and a babysitter has her.
snookers,
I read that C. hated latino’s from the 400 page doc. from her bf who wanted to adopt the baby. The bf had relatives that lived down the street from the Ant’s by the name of Gonzalez.
It is strange story books with the name Zanny, neighbors by the name of Gonzalez.
So where are these other children Zanny watched? Where are the mothers who can verify the monster’s story?
Did Zanny bring Caylee down the stairwell to meet monster when she came to pick up Caylee?
What happened if it was raining, did Caylee get all wet waiting on the stairs for her mother?
How would Zanny know what time to be on the stairwell?
Lastly,
wouldn’t all mother’s want to inspect the home of the nanny that would be watching their child?
Therapist, I think Casey wears the shirt to show Cindy only that she is concerned. But I also think Jose may have told her she needed to strt looking like a mother who’s daughter’s been missing for over 3 months.
MMT,
like i said before, having her firends over at the house could expose the many lies she told her friends and her mother..They were not the same lies. She had customizied lies for each of the people she associated with.
to me insanity implies not knowing right from wrong, casey knows right from wrong that’s why she lies in order to cover up what she knows is wrong and doesn’t want to get into trouble
thought the same thing on the current charges, it won’t be much time in jail if any, the court can’t use what is currently going on with the caylee case, at least i don’t think they can that would be hitting her twice (double jeopardy – i think?) for one crime. it will most likely be probation some community service and restitution, then when the caylee case comes about then they can use these charges and a ‘criminal history’ on momster
I bet if you put $ 50,000.00 up for any mother to come forward that used Zannny as a nanny there would not be any takers.
Mandi, Kristine said this in an article in Globe. Yes, it is a tabloid but they quoted her all the way through so she probably said it. I believe Kristine turned on Casey because she said she’d die if anything happened to Caylee and Casey’s response was: “Oh my God. What a Waste to talk to you.” Kristine is a mother and she loved Caylee.
Casey’s friend Amy also said she loved Caylee and was sick that she was missing. She also turned on Casey and filed fraud charges against her.
Casey named a friend in the documents who supposedly hooked her up with Zenaida as a babysitter. Casey said that he (forgot his name) had a son named Zach–Zachary–that Zenaida had babysat for a long time.
I am sure investigators have checked that guy to see if that is true. And I doubt it is.
Checked in on the Mccann case..some things going on. Gonna blog for a while over there, maybe things will calm down in here and it’ll be ok to come back.
Well Gumshoe, if that’s what Baez told her, it hasn’t worked…she doesn’t look like a mother who’s daughter has been missing for more than 3 months….In fact, she doesn’t look or act like a mother at all. Of course Cindy is forcing her to wear those T-shirts and I’ll just bet Monster despises them.
Have to leave. time to feed the cats. BBL
Catherine, you asked why the mothers of the other two children Zenaida watched didn’t come forward.
There is no Zenaida so she couldn’t have watched any other children. Casey made the entire story up.
MMT – It was monster’s friend from middle/high school, Kiomarie, who said that Casey said she could not let her in the house because her mom did not like Hispanics. I felt so bad for Kio to be treated that way at such a young age. Especially because the other girl of the three best friends at the time WAS allowed in the house. I really think that monster has lied and manipulated people most of her life.
ok kris see ya later
bye bye snookers
Catherine said, in September 15th, 2008 at 9:24 pm
** I totally agree with you in your statement.
Especially, since a mother would do what ever it takes to make sure this nanny is ligit… My mom would go as far as writting lisc. plates and DL downs..
Mandi! You bet monster despises that t-shirt! That’s why she ties it on the side to show off her butt. I mean I’m wearing a photo of my missing child and I do that? It’s unbelievable! Might as well be a photo of her favorite band! And that’s why she’s wearing that necklace. Conveniently the pendant part covers up part of Caylee’s face!
amy you have a good mother, all parents should do the same, i know i would
if there was a nanny, but didn’t take caylee – wouldn’t that person have stepped forward by now?
i don’t think there was a nanny/babysitter, momster didn’t work during the day and in the evening she had her at parties or over at friends apartment
what to grandmomster and grandpopster say about the nanny prior to june 16, they have never seen or talked to this zanny person – wouldn’t you think that grandparents would know more about their grandchild’s nanny or babysitter or whereabouts of the child during the day for more than 1.5 years?? grandpopster said he did watch her a few time, grandmomster never admitted to watching her….hum?
right on mmt you hit the nail on the head
Gumshoe, yes, the detectives checked out all of her stories and they said they were all lies. She made up the name of Jeff, that supposedly worked with her at Universal and introduced her to Zenaida as well as Juliette Lewis, who she claimed also worked with her at Universal and who knew Caylee was missing.
I found it interesting how at ease Casey was with making up these names of people and streets off the top of her head. On Nancy Grace, a therapist, said she is good at this because she’s been doing it for years.
She also claimed the numbers would be on her computer and cell phone. The police checked that out too. There were no numbers or valid email addresses for Zenaida, Jeff, Juliette or any of the other made up names on her computer or cell phone.
I wonder if she even went into Caylee’s room while she was home?
Can a narciscit(sp) gather the guts to do that?
Has anyone seen C or G out today? Wonder where they are spending their days now? I’ll bet C is in her room right now perusing monster’s computer….she’s as curious as we are….her one of MANY faces is not fooling me….she’s as devilish as her daughter.
BB should tell monster to lose the gum.
I think she will be charged with homicide very soon. I don’t think the police are just going after her on these petty charges. The police are just stressing her and BB out. The police wouldn’t waste their time if these were the only charges they had against her.
Meanwhile, they have been building a case against her for Caylee’s murder with the DNA evidence that was in HER trunk.
something strange with that, grandmonster and grandpopster know more that what their leading on, and not just knowing what happened to caylee, but there is a deep dark mystery going on before off of this happened
I haven’t seen them at all… Perhaps they are getting a moment to breath.. protesters are probably gone now that she’s back in jail…
The cops kept saying to Casey: “How is lying to us helping in finding your daughter?” and she said, “It isn’t.” It is obvious to me by her behavior in the interrogation and since that she is doing everything she can to make sure that Caylee isn’t found. She hasn’t told a soul and I don’t think she ever will. It gives her power to know the one secret everybody wants to know. She will keep it to herself even if she gets the needle.
there has been something very strange going on in that family for caseys entire life, but that’s just what i think
your right catherine, the police are not going to hurry up on these fraud charges, but i do see how they are stacking them up against her when the big blow hits….it will be the domino effect
i said before, or someone said…crossing their t’s and dotting their i’s…they only have one shot at it, and damn if their going to cut any corners on this
I know one thing: Casey Anthony didn’t just turn into who she is after Caylee was born (as Cindy has said that’s when all the lies and betrayal started) She is rehearsed, calm, and assured when she lies. There is sometimes a very slight hesitation where you can almost hear the wheels turning in her head to come up with the end of her sentence. But she is good at her craft. A real artiste.
I still say if she would kill her own daughter and feel no remorse, or care that others who loved the child are grief-stricken, then she would kill anyone, including her parents–or anyone who gets in her way of feeding her insatiable ego.
Sabrina, no disputing that as well…
The compounding denials and never letting momster pay a punishment, has helped perpetuate this problem!
i hate it when casey starts off a sentence with ” the truth is” that to me sounds like she’s about to lie again
Amy, if she can walk into a bank and cash a forged check to steal someone else’s money, she can do anything…..that takes real ….. if you know what I mean.
Dragging her through the system, seems appropriate..
On HLN tonight, someone said it right on..
When they said that momster’s attny is upset with all the arrests…
Then the guest on the show said, well, they should expect it… when you’ve done the crimes…
no she will talk if she is faced with the needle, it’s in her character….she will break down and shed tears, and will fight for life….because we all know she hasn’t fought one day for caylee!
i think fl has the chair! burn-baby-burn!
For the record: Not mad at anyone! 🙂
Read on a news org site that there are TWO Orange County Sheriff’s Office (OCSO) deputies (or whatever) that have admitted to having sexual relations with monster. The first was the one that we already heard about who was caught lying about it and got fired. The second one that’s come forward wasn’t identified. News report said OCSO was “embarrassed” by it. Don’t know where they got that info though.
Is anyone keeping track of the number of her bed buddies? We’ll have to start counting now to keep up as they crawl out of the woodwork!
No wonder she was getting desperate! All those guys and no permanent relationship. Sad to think that may have been the motivatio for killing Caylee.
yes easy going i blieve casey is a self preservation charactor, and i think fl does have chair, she won’t want to be in prison for life either
if momster killed by her own two hand, momster believes she did it to save caylee, momster has a way of believing what she is telling, and that my friends are the lies
There is something coming down real soon. Why would BB want the testing stopped. BB knows the police are getting ready to charge her with Caylee’s murder, even without a body.
She will get convicted of Csylee’s murder. We just hear bits and pieces of this case, and I think we all agree she had something to do with caylee’s disappearance. Imagine what we haven’t heard yet.
Agree, Mandi, there’s no stopping that behavior… On the bank note, if you go to a bank and don’t have id, don’t they require you to give a thumb stamp? wouldn’t that be something!
The word that gets me the most is “absolutely”
NOTE TO KRIS..All you other guys look away.lol)
Kris, no one wants you to leave… just as I said before, with so many different personalities on here, not everyone is going to be happy all of the time. Not even me. Hey, since I’m not computer savvy maybe you can come back and explain something to me because in the back of my mind, I’m always thinking about something that Jan Barrett said. She said that they can’t stop our conversations from going to Google. So, does that mean that the world has access to looking in on all our conversations? That’s the part that concerns me. You know I like to joke around and have fun too and I’m not perfect by all means.
(Hey, didn’t I tell you other guys to look away)
If you’re peeking in here… please come back and explain if I’m getting it right about what Jan said…or we can simply all start all over fresh. No need for anyone to say a single word.
(you guys again? … beat it! lol)
Thanks for taking the time to read this… and I know you are!
Gunshoe, you’re exactly right..and you can see where she got her insatiable ego and that is from Cindy…why else would she come out and “weed” on Sat.afternoon or bring her hammer out Sat. at midnight….for confrontation, pure & simple and to satisfy her ego.
In my opinion, it’s not about finding Caylee anymore to the Anthony’s or Baez – it’s about winning and one-upmanship when it comes to LE, the media AND the public…..They are bound and determined to win at all costs, including ignoring Caylee’s remains.
absolutely followed by “I think, or that is what I thought, followed by most defiantly, followed by, that’s what I heard..
If you all stay up late and run out of space Jan has posted another new article on bloggernews that does not any comments on it yet. But if you move please leave some really obvious clues for us to follow to find you tomorrow, okay? 🙂
Goodnight all!
2cents i think there’s to many men to count, and would think most of the men would be to ashamed to admit being with her, most likely why roomate instead of boyfriend being on NG…i would love to see that guy oh and also notice how nate was blacked out LOL like his friends won’t know it’s him laughable isn’t it
just wait, if she is charged with murder/homicide or whatever, this story is going to take, yet another, turn….mark my words!
she has already done it, first it was kidnapping from the apartment, no contact from zanny – when that did work, it was she met zanny in park and was handed a note
same with the work thing, when she couldn’t make the lie true, she twisted again and said she wanted to take to some of the employees
when the plan is not working for her she quickly comes up with another, she has dug herself so deep in a hole there is no escaping – she digging sideways
Mandi, they have this all or nothing attitude…
I don’t think the body torso found at the Sharpe’s Ferry Bridge is Caylee.
I mapped the area and it’s a little far from Orlando for me to think Casey went there, especially alone.
And I keep remembering she told Lee: “she’s close to home”
I think she would have had to have knowledge of this place and that it is a remote area–unless she just got in the car and drove on $50 worth of gas to however far it would take her and back.
They sure do Amy and Caylee is now lost in all of it as far as they are concerned…They know Caylee is no longer alive but they are hellbent on one thing now and that is WINNING at all costs to keep monster out of prison….and doesn’t seem to bother them one bit looking in the mirror every single morning…..where in the hell do people like this come from!
bye bye 2cents…mmt why was kris upset ? i didn’t realize it, i’m not mad at anyone either, just being silly sometimes, and yes some people do get mean spirited on here me included but i get over it…hope there’s no hard feelings
finished NG.. and if you all move let me know…there are many blogs out there, i found one bigger than this one.. so, anyone can be reading our blogs.. its a public forum tho. freedom to speak..one thing I don’t like putting any ideas out there for the defense to work with…
therapist, I swear I did not read your post to Kris.
you believe me don’t you? 🙂
KRIS!!!!!!!!!!!! Come Back!!!!!!!!!!!!
I sure wish someone could clarify if she & Jessie Grund actually went to the beach or not….I didn’t think they did but does anyone know for sure?
gumshoe, it was determined to be a torso of a young adult
like my earlier post i thought maybe shes insane? but I don’t really believe that, i was just saying that her speaking, actions and all of it to us are insane actions? I mean her whole replies to the interrogation made no sense!!!! not even a hey guys please believe me, listen to me, pounding the table, her calmness going hm hm uh huh.. non sensical, and if she knows she is facing a death penalty i would think any sane person would “act” if they had to knowing she was being recorded!
thanks, sabrina—didn’t think it was caylee.
mytwocents… good night and will do!
said,in September 15th, 2008 at 9:54 pm If you all stay up late and run out of space Jan has posted another new article on bloggernews that does not any comments on it yet. But if you move please leave some really obvious clues for us to follow to find you tomorrow, okay?
you have to give me the title of the new blog page thats the only way i can find it
I think her parents have always fought her battles, but not this one. That’s why she so scared now, her parents can’t get her out of this one, and her mother told her she would not forgive her if anything happened to Caylee.
So, she is all alone with her lies. C & G know, but they are again supporting her for the media sake. The Ant’s know she murdered Caylee, so if her parents go against her they are afraid she will not tell them where she put Caylee’s remains. Just look at how much weight C has lost, she is heartbroken. Monster doesn’t look like she lost an ounce. If that were me I would weigh 10 lbs.
snookers, when you said…
“Having her firends over at the house could expose the many lies she told her friends and her mother..They were not the same lies. She had customizied lies for each of the people she associated with.”
You hit the nail right on the head. I so agree with you. She was such a liar, it all makes sense.
me too catherine, i couldn’t eat, sleep, or poop while my bro was missing, what i did i would have nightmares some so terrible that they still stay with me
ok noone is talking to me lol
What happened to Kris?
Mandi, I think the main subject on this families minds is how to maximize on the media opportunity…
Back to feelings, It’s too bad that some are getting their feelings hurt.
Kris along with others all had really great things to say… I truly didn’t see anything offensive going on…
Call me blond!
i’m talking to you pammy…dunno what happened with kris she did say she was gonna check out another web site and be back when things calm down
Martin Luther King said “Can’t we just all get along”
I will leave on that note with a great big : ) to all!!
p.s. that was a smiley face =^.^= for ALL!
yes the weight loss shows on the grandma. so sad.. for whatever some feel about the anthonys standing by casey, i still have compassion for these grandparents, i do..noone can imagine being in their shoes really. we all speculate their involvement, covering? we dont really know, you can see the toll on her, but on monster i see nothing, no gauntness, make up on, sexy tie shirt, you just know they arent eating, or barely, they cant sleep, they have people yelling outside. fear of maybe break ins, all kinds of things, I guess I still have compassion, after all, they didnt’ do this their daughter did..
Jan made a new blog that only has about 4 comments
please no one take it personally if i don’t answer by name etc… i have a hard time trying to keep up in here, slow typer and reader
pammy, you know that I heart you!
Amy,
Whatn do you mean? Did someone get mad at something that was said?
P.S. I am blonde. LOL
tell us where dak
i wont get amd at anyone, i voice my opinions and hope everyone reads, and then if you don’t agree thats ok too.. its all a big debate making sense out of something so non sensical.. we speculate and go round and round when the person who needs to be in here blogging is monster, on what really happened.. you all give me insights as well, ways of looking at it different that I didn’t think of. I hope kris comes back
Gumshoe…
If you are the REAL Gumshoe, I totally believe you… but, if you are the monster disguising yourself as Gumshoe, I don’t.
i think maybe kris got feelings hurt but don’t know why
Easy are you calling it a night?!?!? I’m moving over to jan new article
pammy i try to read everyones comments but find myself refreshing more then posting in order to keep up lol
I think we should hook Monster and O.J up they have so much in common
Didn’t monster say Jeff’s little boy was also watched by Zenaida? I wonder if the police have verified that? Should be easy to do. Did Zenaida watch your son yes or no.
Yes she did Catherine and I’ve wondered that myself many times….
Cat, I’m not sure where all the hurt feelings came from… I thought everyone was doing well…. 🙂
Catherine, Cindy and George are still fighting Casey’s battles for her. Theyve been lying and covering up for Casey and fighting with the media and the protesters day after day while Casey goes off to her attorney or plays on her computer in her room.
Cindy almost got into a fist fight with a protester who called Casey a baby killer this weekend. I don’t believe the Anthonys are pretending to support their daughter because they think Casey will tell them where Caylee is.
George and Cindy don’t want Casey to tell them Caylee is dead and she killed her. She told them exactly what they wanted to hear. She left “my daughter with someone I trusted and she kidnapped her.”
George and Cindy need to see a therapist who would tell them to let Casey go and let her take the consequences for her behavior. They can’t do that.
me too i keep refreshin myself. I totally missed what happened with kris, i just hope she comes back…I think we all have great ideas and insights, and if you miss something youcan come in here and read back..one minute i say ok, whats really going on in this case.. then i come back with another theory, i did it with peterson, i was way obessed with that case. I laid awake at night trying to figure out HOW he did the murder. i still to this day cant say how he did the actual murder, I just know he didnt get away with it, as she won’t either and she is actually worse in her actions and speaking then he ever was and I was flipped out by him.. lol.. he was so believable in the beginning…
dak i think we’ve through that one lol think it was put something like this: scott peterson and casey would screw each others brains then oj would kill them both
Okay I guess I missed that one Sabrina.
yah someone should step in with the anthonys for grief counseling, i went through it and it helped enormously, maybe they would then be at some peace inside, because they aren’t at peace standing by her or not, the day is going to arrive when they have to face it, and I’m afraid what it will do to them. I do hate monster for the agony she brought down first on doing to caylee what she did, and the second worse part is by tormenting all who care.
i don’t know pammy seems people are more sympothetic towards women, i hope i’m wrong in this case though…yep dak was pretty funny
Are we moving again? Where are we going, please post the site.
from what I heard she gave jeffs name and his address up in NC or somewhere, then later said oh he moved down to jacksonville… she said his number is on my sim card.. again 2 people she named as being her witnesses they cannot locate!
in my oppinion i think the ants feed off of each other 1 time george is going off next cindy is going off and they each take turns playing the rational one
I know who else we are missing around here tonight and that is “Concerned in Texas”….I believe she had to evacuate due to Ike…hope she and her home made it through allright.
I just checked to see anything knew on the blog and unless I am super dense , did not see anything for anybody to get upset about. But then maybe somebody sneaked in a post with a www link and my puter virus stuff does not like that,
Pammyliz, In Jesse original testimony he did not say that he actually went to the beach but did say that monster contacted him to go to the beach to cheer him up(he lost his job). He did say that monster came over to use his shower. Vague on dates though.
BBL still busy feeding chores.
tonight on NG she replayed some tapes and i heard her say zaneida had an ID for universal, and she says “i seen her ID badge” she had one to the detectives???????????????…OK, well can’t US look in the records and find their dam employees? HELLO? i mean everything she stated is just so insane
oooh that’s right mandi i knew i was missing someone, i remember saying she had to evacuate i too hope she’s ok and her house and family
These people must have seen their names with regard to this case. Why haven’t they contacted the police. Do any of these people really exist? How this lying brat keeps all these lies straight is beyond me.
not much is going on in Jan’s other story.. but it would be great to move to the new story to have a little less scrolling..
Here is the new site information: it’s called”
Caylee Anthony’s Mom Back In Jail Again
http://www.bloggernews.net/117785
i agree amy post the 6 digit numbers
juliette does exsist, shes in hollywood making more good movies..lol.. at one point and I havent heard much said, i thought i heard the DET say is there another place zaneida lived? monster said yah with her mom down in jacksonville? (not sure) and then at the end he asks again is there another place zaneida would be living, she goes oh i think she was renting a room down in southern florida, or something to this affect did anyone else here that slip up??? she had stated earlier Z lived with her mother sometimes, and then later acted and said im not sure think she rented a room. he said do you know where or with whom> no she says
catherine that’s why she talks in circles cause she can’t keep them straight, she waits for someone to bring up what she said so it refreshes her memory
pammy,
Thay’s exactly the kind of things they will bring up at the trial. Lie after lie after lie. Except, Zanny the nanny is the truth as per the monster. Okay, well prove this woman existed BB.
117785
There you folks go!
yah I thought i heard it right, he asked SAME question in a different way and got different answers, I only heard this one time all the way through make me wanna go back and re listen cause I did catch that one… but i didnt hear NG or anyone bring that up
thanks amy, on my way
I wish she would take the stand…but you know BB won;t let her
Pammyliz, the cops did check her cell phone and computer and found no telephone numbers or text messages or emails from any of those people she made up. Plus, those cops have interrogated enough suspects to know a pathological liar. They repeatedly said everything you’ve told us is a lie. She didn’t fool the cops.
As soon as the cadaver dog and homicide detective smelled a dead body in the trunk, the investigators knew Casey killed Caylee and disposed of the body. That’s why they arrested her and set a $500,000 bond.
Amy,
What is the new site. I can’t find it?
Here is the new site information: it’s called”
Caylee Anthony’s Mom Back In Jail Again
Number 117785
http://www.bloggernews.net/117785
yah i wanna re listen cause these guys i thought were EXCELLENT at their job..noone can say ( in trial) they coerced her NO NO WAY, they practically BEGGED for the truth, at times kind to her. but they tripped her up, so sneakily… by asking like they did over and over
Concerned,
I agree
Cat, let me know, if you can’t see the link I attached..
http://www.bloggernews.net/117785#comment-611621
Title of the story is…
Caylee Anthony’s Mom Back In Jail Again
Hi All,
I haven’t been reading yet other than to see what blog you are all in for now anyway, till we move again..
I watched NG and the thing I hoped a caller to ask would have been;
WHATEVER became of the bones and clothing found when Equusearch left, I havent heard..
AND one caller asked but got no response to this;
Why didn’t anyone answer the one callers question of “Wwhy not keep M in jail for now over the charges she is currently charged with till they get the murder case ready to go, then she will already be there”.. and caller suggested she stay in with the regular inmates not to herself, then she might be more apt to talk..
I also noticed on NG tonight the therapist she spoke with said what I said last night, that M will and BB will no doubt go for some insanity plea…
Monday Morning Therapist said,in September 15th, 2008 at 10:16 pm Gumshoe…
If you are the REAL Gumshoe, I totally believe you… but, if you are the monster disguising yourself as Gumshoe, I don’t.
LOL–I am the one and only Gumshoe 🙂
check out the Juliette Lewis interview on utube. Her comments about playing a character (Kate) in a movie called Aurora Borealis is interesting……..sounds like Casey might have had a facination with Juliette Lewis (her make believe friend)…….most of us grew out of our “imaginary friend” by the time we were 3! (by the way…..my “imaginary” friend was EMILY….lol.) just kidding! When I think of some of the things Casey’s friends have said about her…….the interview with Juliette Lewis was kinda creepy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tQ1Fhnbm9M
Juliette Lewis (Casey’s make believe “friend”) happens to be an actress. Juliette does an interview on utube (Juliette Lewis close to her character) does an interview about a character named Kate that she portrays in Aurora Borealis. I believe Casey was fixated with the character (Kate) and wanted to live her life. The interview is kinda creepy, knowing what we know about Casey and the lifestyle she wanted to live! check it out on utube. I posted it here once but don’t know where it went.
Good Morning All!
Now we have the Battle of the Grandmothers!
Remember little 12 year old Dakota Skii who ended up hospitalized for stress related illness thanks to the Caylee Anthony case – and who monster emailed and wrote notes to?
Well grandma Cindy has continued to write and text Dakota (and presumably Dakota has responded) so Dakota’s grandma tried to get a restraining order to stop C from communicating with the girl. Unfortunately it was denied.
Good morning, again!
Just realized that last night everyone moved to the most recent article (also on Sept 15) on this case. It’s called:
Caylee Anthony’s Mom Back in Jail Again.
It is number 117785 on bloggernews.net
If you have trouble finding it leave a note here and we’ll come back and check and help you.
Monday Morning Therapist said,in September 15th, 2008 at 5:30 pm Another interesting fact that I found:
Sociopath’s criminal behavior is shaped by social forces and is the result of a dysfunctional environment.
This is very true.
There is one additional element and that is the gene or hereditary component – this is biological. The environment (social forces mentioned above) have to trigger the gene (biological component mentioned in this paragraph). Hence, it is true that both the environment and your genetic structure trigger your behaviors and thinking.
Let’s say your parents are both musically inclined. You are on a cruiseship as a child, it sinks, and you’re stranded on a deserted island (alone). You may have the genetic code of being musically inclined; but the environment will never trigger that from you. Because they’re no musical instruments on the island and no person there to encourage you.
Sorry too long-bottom line is it takes your genetic makeup and the environment together to make you who you are. Nature and nurture. That’ll be $150 🙂
This topic gets a lot of people talking.
Nancy Grace was the same info that the news has covered here in Florida.
I wonder if Monster thought this was going to get her this much publicity?
I know she is pissed off at Cindy, cause she called the police that night…
It makes me sick to think if Monster would have told Cindy in the begining that she moved out of town with Caylee, would she have gone on with her life as a single person and no more Caylee? Never to report the child gone..?
Personally, I think Monster is a product of todays youth in our nation that have been explosed to such violence that it has numb the minds of our children.
Didn’t they say that Monsters favorite movie is
“American Psycho?”
Alliethinks and KimCon22000:
Everyone has moved to blog under a more recent article on bloggernews.net
Come join us please!
It’s the most recent article (also on Sept 15) on this case. It’s called:
Caylee Anthony’s Mom Back in Jail Again.
It is number 117785 on bloggernews.net
I don’t want to put the entire web address here because sometimes peoples’ computers block messages containing web site addresses.
One way to find it is to go to bloggernews.net
home page and scroll down for Sept 15 article called Caylee Anthony’s Mom Back in Jail Again
See you there!
umm, ok, just as a Mom what would be ur most biggest nightmare, besides ur child passing away, being diagnosed w/ a terminal illness, so on??
Oh that’s right our children whether 1 month old or 30 yrs old being kidnapped for we wouldn’t have any clue what was happening to them, if they were eating, being abused, tortured, killed, so on, I JUST FIND IT FREAKIN AMAZING THAT CASEY ANTHONY’S DAUGHTER WAS “KIDNAPPED” YET, SHE HAS ZERO CONCERNS! NOR DOES ANYONE ELSE AROUND HER! HMMMMMM! WHY AREN’T THESE PPL IN TEARS? BREAKING DOWN? WELL IT’S ALL TOO OBVIOUS WHY HER MOTHER ISN’T, FOR U DON’T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT A CHILD WHEN U ALREADY KNOW WHERE SHE IS!
CASEY in the end the lies fall upon you, it wasn’t that hard all u had to do was love ur child, find a place to live and find a job! Was Caylee really worth all of this?? U thrive on attention, well a good man would have respected the fact that u were a single mom trying to do the best u could! No doubt Caylee alone would have stolen his heart!
Seriously, how do live everyday w/o her, besides knowing she’s w/ God now? I know u r never gonna tell the truth! Judge & ur own brother made statements about u and the not telling the truth!
Caylee is in the arms of the Angels and u can never hurt her again, so good luck w/ all ur hurt towards everyone else! Casey, God knows the truth & no matter how much u lie, u can’t lie to him & I really feel so sorry for ur family! U seriously don’t care about anyone but you! God Blessed u w/ the gift of ur little girl & look what u did w/ it!!
Chrisale:
Unfortunately, the monster herself isn’t religious. I think she is a cold blooded callous murderer who has watched to many American Psyco flicks, with CSI…
You’re right she not worried where Cayle is cause she knows where she put her. Monster was looking for a way out of being a responsibile mother and decided that she wasn’t going to give in to her mothers (cindy) demands…
I see that you are up late… This must have been on your mind?
Don’t worry. If this goes to trial, Do you really think that 12 jurors couldn’t see the truth in the situation. All of America can see that this is all a coverup for a crime commented…Monster thinks her stories sound good enough to put reasonable doubt in the minds of viewers but when you look at all the evidence its very clear ” GUILTY” !!!!!!
I hope you are right Alliethinks that 12 jurors can see through Casey’s lies. Even without a body or DNA evidence that Caylee is dead and her body was in Casey’s trunk, her admitting she deliberately misled and lied to detectives and her lack of emotion or concern about finding her toddler would be enough for me to convict her of murder.
However, there are still people who don’t want to believe that adorable Caylee is dead and a mother would murder her child. These people are befriending Casey on facebook and carrying signs in front of her house supporting her.
I just hope we don’t get someone like that on the jury.
I don’t always have confidence in jurors. I have seen jurors acquit cold blooded killers where the prosecutors had proven beyond a reasonable doubt to me that the person was guilty.
ROLL CALL !
Present
Sabrina,
I just can’t take that other person thst was in the other blog. I think you know who I mean.
hey did you see on news that little girl helped deliver little brother ?
Concerned,
Your right! The jury would need a strong foreman/forewoman.
yeah, i know who you’re talking about, lol i just let it roll off my back, actually there’s a couple of people over there who sort of gets to me
OMG, Where was that?
I know exactly who your talking about. LOL
i seen it on HLN, it was so sweet, the little said ” i think im the first person he seen, he stared at my face then peed” LMAO ! she even cut the ebilicle cord
you know that little girl will have a very close/special bond with her younger brother for life
Oh, how sweet. He is sure going to tell her that story over and over while she growning up.
It is pouring down here. Everytime it rains I think of Caylee just laying outside rotting away.
oh i’m sure the big sis will take good care of him and do her best to keep him safe…
don’t think anyone is going to join us here, but i don’t care, do you ?
I really don’t think there are that many people down here that believe M. didn’t murder Caylee. It wouldn’t surprise me if alot of people would lie to get on the jury just to make sure she gets a guilty verdict.
yes it’s sad, i hope they have already found her, hopefully she will be layed to rest very soon and then justice can be done, do you wonder how people can possibly think we are vengeful ? i just want the person (casey) to get what’s coming to her, what’s wrong with that ?
No, I really don’t, but I’m sure there are some that peek at what wew are saying. LOL
Catherine I have just about had it with you.
You completely mis-read and misunderstood Dak’s blog yesterday evening.You’ve had it in for him for a long time and were just ready to go after him. That is exactly what the rest of us – most of us at least – do not want to see on this blog. I don’t know why you harbor such ill will and feel free to attack people personally like that. And here we are on a new day on a new blog and YOU ARE STILL DOING IT! It’s uncalled for. Ignore the person’s blogs if you want but you don’t have to attack them especially when they have not attacked you for pete’s sake.
oh just thinking if C will try to accuse furhman of killing caylee or planting evidence lol
2cents you are the pot calling the kettle black
Nothing is wrong with wanting the person responsible for killing that baby to be punished. If she were my daughter I probably would have half killed her already, with all the evidence that has come out.
the way i feel is, i love all of my family but i hate some of their ways, there for if they do something wrong i’m the first to admit it, if you’re wrong you’re wrong no matter who you are
catherine ? where did you go ???
If asking you to be nice on this blog makes me mean then fine! I have tried to be nice about this. I have tried to re-direct the conversations. I and others have objected to this several times before and now I am about at the end of my rope. So now I’m telling it straight.
Catherine totally misunderstood Dak’s post last night and personally attacked him. There is no call for that.
I am asking you both and Kris and anyone else to stop acting like a jr high school clique singling people out for criticism and snide remarks. I’m particularly astonished because as I said I don’t see what Dak or the other person ever did or said to any of you to deserve the mean-spirited and out and out personal attacks that you have made against them. And if they did it was a long time ago but it keeps coming up in each and every post because you are perpetuating it.
mytwocents,
I have ignored the people I choose not to speak with, and the people I feel that have been dishonest by changing their names just to start a fight with the other bloggers. You should really do your homework before you defend someone. That is why I left thst other blog.
And it is obvious that all of you (C, K and S especially) get really upset and strongly object to anyone criticizing what you say. So why are you doing that to other people? It makes no sense and does not reflect well on any of you.
to start with 2cents i didn’t even remember your name till i reread your posts when you were attacking me, when i had never even talked to you, you took a few words i had said out of context, but i noticed you didn’t do that to anyone else who was at the same time attacking dak and said much worse then what i had said…also even included another word that i had said many hours later which was meant to be funny in jest can you understand that ? or did you misread what i posted ?
who are you critisize anyone ? you’re doing just what you’re berating others for doing
Who cares how many names someone uses? Frankly I’ve thought you may be Kris, too. I don’t know. I don’t care!
Maybe someone is conducting a study of reactions to different points of view. And instead of intelligent dialogue they get a personal diatribe!
And there is no reason to continue this at all.
You’ve succeeded in running ReasonableVoice off. Aren’t you happy with yourself? And now you’re trying to run off Dak. He has not said one thing that’s out of line. Not one. But you just can’t let it go. So maybe you should go. You are the troublemaker! Not Dak
If you don’t like being in this room with us why don’t you just find another blog. Kris, Sabrina, very nice people. Talking about them doesn’t really show you in a good light.
Sure their reading this..What do you think Monster does a day at Daezs office…just play pocket with him? She’s on the computer talking to 12 year old children like her mother does…
Maybe she doing her own legal investigation…
Since Daez was this unknown lawyer from Casselbery Fl.. Monster very smart, you know, cause she has everyone convienced that she doesn’t know where Caylee is….We are the dumb ones…( sarcasm)
I feel bad for Mr.Daez. He took on this case not realizing that he was defending public enemy #1…
I hope I don’t have to read in the Orlando Sentinel after this is over…
” Mr.Daez, From Unknown To Unemployed”
He seems like a nice guy… He will hold your hand and hold you close as he walks you throught a angry mob protected by bodyguards..
Now thats nice….. Everyone should ask for that treatment…
Someone tell Daez that nice guys finish last..Please!
Sabrina,
I think someone “Should practice what they preach”
I did not mention your name Sabrina. I took your words from a PREVIOUS post as an example of what was going on with some other posts. I’m surprised you owned up to them. That’s on you. No one else would have remembered.
I don’t like to see bullies anywhere and that’s what you and Kris and Catherine are acting like. If you’re going to behave that way you have to expect someone along the line to call you on it. I have. Tough luck.
well if you don’t care 2cents then why bring it up, why is it ok for you but not others…you’re not superior, self apoint your self all you want, but that doesn’t mean you’re right, i DO NOT AGREE WITH YOUR TACTICS OF ATTACKING PEOPLE WITH YOUR SELF RIGHTEOUS ATTITUDE !
Well if I practiced what YOU preach I would be able to attack anyone I wanted for anything at anytime. So what are you complaining about?
for some reason 2cents you think you have the right to jump down peoples throats when they say something you don’t agree with, so how can you point your finger
mytwocents,
Why don’t you just leave, and go find another blog? Or are you thirsty for more fighting?
you didn’t have to mention my name in order for to recognise my words, and why didn’t you post what others said, the ones who said much worse than me, why did you pick my words out…BULLY !
I’d rather call someone on their unkind behavior from a righteous position than what you do which is simply personally attack people for their opinion on the case.
You all are behaving badly. You are hurting people. Doesn’t feel good when it happens to you does it? You want to throw mud but not have any thrown at you? You should have learned that lesson a long time ago. Sorry if you don’t like having that pointed out. And if it makes me a “bad” guy then that’s the kind of bad guy I don’t mind being.
mytwocents,
What’s your problem? I told you to PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH. Get it!
Hey everyone
Its great that everyone has a theory, It makes it more interesting when someone goes againest the topic. Its no big deal… But if your angry about what people are saying then maybe another room will be better.
Sorry Allie, The room is usually very nice, please don;t judge us by this small spat.
Sabrina,
I think we have another AKA if you know what I mean.
sorry allie i agree, but i just can’t stand it a so called self appointed righteous person decides to take a righteous position against certain persons and not others, i think it’s just mine and certain others nsmes she picked on, yet let others slide…just curios 2cents how is it you determine in your righteous way who is worth pucking on and who’s not ???
yeah catherine i know exactly what you mean…i sure would hate to be that persons spouse LMAO !
I don’t, trust me, I have had it out with other blogger before..
It really boils down to eveyone right to their own opinion…I understand how you feel. I just enjoy this time cause I can vent on my own thoughts…. This case really pisses me off…
allie i agree i think everyone is very frustrated by this case and the ones involved
Don’t take anything personal… This people don’t know you, and you have every right to voice your thoughts…
You three are hysterical!
sabrina you ask: “you think you have the right to jump down peoples throats when they say something you don’t agree with, so how can you point your finger?”
My answer: I’m just behaving like you do. Except from the moral high ground.
I picked your words Sabrina because they were the best examples of the worst. And I certainly wasn’t going to repeat every single nasty post. I did mention that others had done so too. I had even forgotten your name when I posted that so you have perpetuated this yourself. And to top it off you and C and Kris have continued the behavior clear thru today. It would have been forgotten long ago if you all had just dropped it which several people besides myself asked you to.
Catherine, Sabrina, Allie, I think there are some bloggers we just need to ignore. When I see someone who likes to fight and cause trouble, I just don’t read their posts.
I’m enjoying the theories you three are coming up with. That’s why I came over here.
I didn’t get a chance to get all the info…
But, I would rather talk dirt about the Ants then another blogger…LOL
Sabrina,
I think we should just ignore anymore words that are written in a negative way towards us by mytwocents. Wait till Kris reads what was said about her, look out!
my words were not the worse there were other people that day who said much worse…so f**k off…you’re no moral compass, you’re a wanna be, no one voted for you to sit in gods chair
Retract everyone:
I’m sure the Ants reading this..What do you think Monster does a day at Daezs office…just play pocket with him? She’s on the computer talking to 12 year old children like her mother does…
Maybe she doing her own legal investigation…
Since Daez was this unknown lawyer from Casselbery Fl.. Monster very smart, you know, cause she has everyone convienced that she doesn’t know where Caylee is….We are the dumb ones…( sarcasm)
I feel bad for Mr.Daez. He took on this case not realizing that he was defending public enemy #1…
I hope I don’t have to read in the Orlando Sentinel after this is over…
” Mr.Daez, From Unknown To Unemployed”
He seems like a nice guy… He will hold your hand and hold you close as he walks you throught a angry mob protected by bodyguards..
Now thats nice….. Everyone should ask for that treatment…
Someone tell Daez that nice guys finish last..Please!
Concerned,
I think I will take your advice and just ignore who I chose to ignore.
Thsnk you
Allie, watch yourself on this blog. Catherine and Kris and Sabrina gang up on people they don’t like. It’s like Jr High again. And they don’t seem to want to quit. I don’t like seeing other people personally attacked so I stand up for them. They’re just into putting people down.
And Concerned: Those are the thre who like to bully and belittle someone who they don’t like or who disagrees with them. They don’t like to “fight” because they don’t have any defense for their behavior when someone objects to it.
I’ve just had it over the past week and that’s why I’m speaking my mind.
allie have you noticed that 2cents has put you on her list ?
oh think i’ll stay on all day and night to see what kris says about 2cents…2cents just doesn’t get it, somehow she/he thinks has the right to judge others
Sabrins,
I am laughing so hard my stomach hurts. You go girl!
Please ignore everything I say
I can’t have any respect for any of you, C, K and S when you treat people the way you do and run people off. I’ll be the third one (at least) that you’ve tried to do this to. The proof is in the pudding, isn’t it?
hi i hope im not one of the people on the blog you dont like . i really dont bother any one i dont think i do? sabrina i know you have responded i dont really get much feed back but i guess i just like to say whats on my mind.
Allie, I have not put you on “my list.” Don’t know what Sabrina is talking about. I was just warning you about them.
again 2cents is doing what she CHOOSES to accuse others of,the rules she spouts off don’t aply to her
How did poor Allie get throw under the bus? She didn’t do anything.
2cents you said three people there are only four right now so who were you talking about
I am rolling on the floor laughing Sabrina.
You say ” somehow she/he thinks has the right to judge others.” THAT IS WHAT I AM OBJECTING ABOUT THAT YOU HAVE BEEN DOING TO OTHER PEOPLE!
If you don’t like being judged then don’t judge. It’s really that simple.
exactly catherine
Hi Sharon
Welcome
We hsve a person on here who forgot to take their medication today. You will have to forgive him, as I do.
that’s right 2cents, don’t judge unless you like to be judged LMAO ! you chose to judge me without ever even talking to me, yet you didn’t judge anyone else who said much worse, so how do you think that makes you better ???
Sabrina,
Just ignore him.
allie again sorry i’m not ignoring you…as for what you said about baez i agree 100% i’ll just be glad when it’s over, and hopefully when little caylee if=s found the ants wont try to place blame on mark frhman lol
hello. g is on tv saying to the media there ruining his family i think monster allready did that.
It finally stopped raining.
I am surprised thst NG didn’t have Beth Twitty on her show. to shed some light on how she was received by the Ant’s.
sharon who is G ?
Hey everyone, control yourselves….
who cares? The blog is for you to express your feeling on the topic that you write…..
I really don’t care what people say, I just care what I say….I can understand the diffents in people opinion, Ok lets hear them…
There are people out there that believe in Ants story, I’m not one of them…Just talk about things that really matter…Trying to find Caylee’s remands….
catherine i think bet twitty is in aruba still looking for her daughter, an example the ants should be following
sorry george
oh gosh, you guys are so silly LMAO.
Let me stir the pot up a little.
Hey Cat, noticed Dak came in the room as soon as you came in. Maybe a stalker or same person LOL.Have noticed that before (evil grin)
Now on the more serious side, wonder if LE ever read active blogs on this case. So many theories/speculations and some are darned good.
I still think that george is a hard to read character.
Frankly ,I think he supports his wife and not monster.
He might have figured out monster along time ago before all this happened. Why did he have his shed locked up. Does not look like the neighborhood that have sheds broken into.
Besides they had that huge privacy fence.
Anybody noticed on his written statement that he actually wrote “end of statement” and then drew vertical lines below it so nobody could add anything to it. He sure was a cop at one time allright.
Shsron,
He should look at his dsughter with regard to ruining his family. I think the Count must be telling the Ant’s to keep complaining about the media, so he csn file some lawsuits.
oh poor G thinks it the media ha, see how they place blame on anyone except their daughter
Hey new news,
Channel 9 is talking about the zany the nanny..
They are stating that it is a nick name for Xanix(?) They have checked the computer for info about Caylee, and the experts found something that links to a conversation about the drug…..
you guys are absoutly right
hi snookers i hope the silly people includes 2cents lol…she’s the who barged in his righteous way pointing his finger and spouting off lol…ok ok back to the case i wish i could find the dicuments, i’ve looked everywhere people have told me to look but can’t find them grr
allie think we all considered that zanny=xanex…but glad they found it on casey’s pc now maybe they can move on with investigation with the new info
snookers,
I took notice of that, another AKA I’m sure.
I’m surprised that there is not as fund for fencing everyone front yard on Hopespring Drive. Why doesn’t G just park that big trailer in front of his house. It was given to him by KIDFINDERS. The Ant’s haven’t looked for Caylee there too busy banging stakes into the ground and taping off their property. If that were my grandchild I would be doing something, instead of just sitting on my a-s all day. Even it was helping other families find thier children.
catherine, if they parked the trailer in front, or put up fence the cameras wouldn’t be able to see them, how could they live with that lol
Investigators stated that Tony( the boyfriend) was confronted by Casey( monster) about the drug..
Sabrina,
Whomever the shoe fits.Another evil grin.
Here is the lnk. You should be able to get it.
Wait till it is done loading….
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2008-08/41844520.pdf
i don’t understand why casey would confront tony about xanex unless he wasn’t giving some to her, maybe he was holding out lol
About your last remark: Catherine you’re truly a vile, mean, nasty woman – to me and many others that have come and gone from this blog -and you never give up and you won’t own up to it or give up – just like Casey Anthony.
I think it is you who truly needs medication.
But I won’t let you and your little crowd of “follower bullies” run me off too. In fact why don’t the three of you start your own blog? Then you can be in charge of who gets to write what and who gets kicked off the blog. That’s what you’ve been trying to do for at least a week.
just reading the title of this blog C says casey not guilty of check fraud, how can C say that after all C knows casey stole from her own grandmothers bank account
Sabrina,
Yes, I know. Any other person would park that trailer in front of their house, but not them. Maybe, they do like the attention.
Allie,
I wonder if she wanted him to get her some or she wanted to give him some. Don’t xanax put you to sleep?
just wondering? maybe monster was giving poor caylee zanex thats why she likes that name so much
I like to think that everyone here was more concern about the case of Monster and Caylee…
I live in Fla. And I don’t know where everyone elses lives but here in Fla. we get info on the Caylee case every 30 minutes…
I just want to share this info with the ones that don’t get the local news…. I luv you guys cause you get involved with a case thats not close to you…So here is the update in Fla…The drug xanex is in question right now….It could be the drug of choice when it comes right down to it…
OMG ! 2cents why won’t you stop ? we have moved on and having a nice conversation, now you’re back trying to start up again…you just won’t give up will you, gosh how pathetic
hi alliethinks where are you in fla?
allie,
I’m about 45-60 minutes from the Ant’s house. Where are you at in Florida?
allie i really apreciate you sharing the updates on case with us, i’m soooo want to be in the know in the case…i’m in alabama and don’t get the local news from fl, thanks very much
Pls guys. Everybody is so frustrated about this case. Tone it down
All the ones currently on this blog have been equally great contributors IMO.
I am kind of surprised that LE leaked that info on Xanax (sp?). being on puter.
They have to be careful with what they leak.
Defense lawyers could make a case about poisoning the jury pool.
Sabrina,
I csn’t wait to talk to Kris later. She is going to be so pissed off.
i am about 15 mins from monsters house im in sanford.
catherine you sharon and allie could go to trial together and do brunch, i envy you guys lol
Hey guys…Just wanted to check in for a few minutes before dinner is done. I see there was alot of action going on in here. Has the smoke cleared I hope? Any more news on monster or the Ants?
Allie,
Maybe you will get jury duty.
me too catherine, what time does kris usually come on ?
Catherine said,in September 17th, 2008 at 4:34 pm Sabrina,
I csn’t wait to talk to Kris later. She is going to be so pissed off.
Just read your post Catherine…I think I may have overlooked something. Was planning to catch up on all the posts after dinner. What’s up?
WELL hello there kris we’ve been talking about you dear ! only good things from us LOL from us, get it ???
hee hee hee kris you can’t wait til after dinner ! do it now !
i would love to be on that jury.
Give me the time of the post that may not be good and I’ll read it before dinner. Sounds like someone has an axe to grind possibly?
Kris,
Not reslly.
Just news about how you, Sabrina and me are blog hogs. How we pick on people and how horrible we are as per mytwocents. Read above blogs.
gonna get some ice water while kris recaps brb
Sabrina,
Mytwocents earlier post pointed out that in this nutty legal system, you either make a deal with the prosecution prior to sentencing , plea; guilty or no contest. If you want a trial for them to prove the charges the only other choice is “not guilty’.
Kris
,
oh yeah, and I think I know who it is. The way it is written is exactly like someone else we know. Sicko.
How far up does it start Catherine? We are not blog hogs. Whoever said this is more than welcome to stay in as late as we did last night too. People have to understand that you can’t control everything everyone says and does constantly. I live with this type of personality at home…would make the things we hear in the tabloids about Tom Cruise to shame.
i agree snookers that’s how it works in the court system, and then you risk being found guilty after that no deal is available, to late
snookers,
Are you saying, once you go into a trial it’s no more plea deals? I thought once it got to the trial stage it was either a NG or a G verdict. Plea deals off the table.
kris go to sept.17, 3:ii PM
Anyone for spaghetti? It’s beginning to smell good!
shoot i meant 3:11 PM
right catherine, if you choose to go to trial then there is no more deals
Kris,
Starts at 3:11 and just continues on, and on. and on. I know who it is there not fooling me, especially when they mentioned another person we ran off. The same person we suspected of being you know who.
Sabrina,
I followed the Michael Vick thingy pretty close. Boy ,wish he had not made a deal. Think he would have gotten more in a trial, that piece of manure.. But that was a fed. case and they are very good in getting their man . no matter how smart the defense is.
I gotta leave and go home. I’ll be back later. Don’t you guys beat up anybody else LOL.
*GIGGLES* oh us runner offers lol, rediculous…i liked how catherine point out how this poster likes to use “different” names LMAO !
ok catherine see ya later
I just caught up on those posts above. Personally I feel that this person has been the only person within the group who has ever displayed any hostility towards others. I know as far as myself I like to tease on occassions but it is always meant in a fun way, I don’t consider anyone enemies. I think they need to take some time in their own posts to self reflect. NOONE IS TRYING TO UPSET OR START TROUBLE WITH ANYONE. I am also more than welcoming to anyone who wishes to disagree with me, as long as it is not in a “Hostile” way. This makes for good debates and well rounded theories too. Sorry they feel that way. But my shell is back to being hard and I will not feel hurt over what they think.
Catherine,
Sure you still have three choices at the trial.
But that rarely happens because you can plea bargain with a guilty or no contest plea.
In order to get a trial you plea “not guilty”.
wooo leering at that icky vick…i hate that man ! i love animals and have adopted many…he should be nutered !
By Catherine….talk to ya later.
i agree kris, and i try to do the same, i think the only person i have said any choice words to was dak, but that’s been over with for a long time…so if he can let it go why can’t 2cents…oh well like i said no one has hurt my feelings in here so move on
I just feel that some people in life feel compelled to constantly try to control things. It is sad but it makes for a very strained hostile enviroment. People are who they are, and the only thing I can write it off as is that people like that must have a very boring life themselves to have to keep track of everything that everbodyelse is doing. That’s the only way I can try to understand why it happens. I know you guys enough along with myself that we are not hurtful people. So I say just ignore them if it comes to that, and they will probably go crazy when we do.
just waching HLN G is telling a reporter that the media isn’t looking for his grand daughter humpf…i don’t see any of the ants looking for caylee
Man I left you guys alone for too long..LOL
Ok, I live in Fla…I live in the north eastern part of Fla. Its in Volusia county…
Now the Ants live in Central fl. Its about 1hr away…
To be a juror on this case …, No way ..the defense would throw me out…. I’m not for a fair trial… I thinks she is guilty as hell..
Our news here… Does an update ever 30 mins….So, we get the good stuff first…
New news is that the DCF is investigating the protestors who bring their children to the house of the Ants…That it…
Plus I have a one year old that I have to chase around all day… LOL
I don’t always get free time to vent…
I thought last night when I went to bed about just how much C&G are in denial…and that is truly sad. I actually felt very upset thinking on it. I think they may never actually own up to what is done is done, and that it may have actually been done by their daughter.
yep kris but with the name 2cents i felt compelled to throw in my 2 cents lol, especially when she was attacking catherine for something that is between catherine and dak, 2cents has no right poking his/her nose into it, and i probably would have jumped in except 2cents has attacked me befor
g just loves all that attention. he should just shut up and not say anything.god i hate those people more everyday
I understand that grief counselor or psychologist person when they explained that there are different stages of grief and that no two people grieves the same. It starts out as disbelief, denial, shock and many stages in between but ultimately winds up with acceptance. I just can’t see C&G ever making it there even if they find a body.
allie i’m on the fence about the protester and C’s confrontation and the little boys arm being slammed, please keep us informed with the updates…kris what can the ants say when all is said and done ? try to pin it on someone else ? who ? mark furhman ?
sabrina…I agree with you. I just can’t stand when people feel compelled to dictate to others how they should feel or act. That is too controlling a personality. I think we have all been attacked by this person as well, I know they do it sometimes in the form of little digs on something posted but always it seems in a hostile way. I firmly don’e expect everyone to agree with me all of the time and welcome it, but if someone is nice about their theories and cordial in approach.
Kris,
About C & G behavior. Unless you actually walk in their shoes , none of us know how we would behave in such an insane stressful tragic situation. Hopefully not like they do. Yet, you never know and hopefully we will never find out.
Now I’m gonna go for a bit to eat that spaghetti….I can smell it and my daughter does too….she is bugging me for a dish. Talk to you guys in a bit.
ok kris enjoy your dinner think i’ll do the same haven’t eaten yet today…i’ll leave this blog open though, brb folks so keep posting
Alliethinks,
You live in Fla and so did I many years ago. I do remember how hard it was to dig in the garden(grass very tough) and not hit water.
I surely must be hard to dig a decent “dry” hole deep enough to conceal a body.
i’m back, settled on cheese n crackers, i’m a snack freak lol…i know snookers i used to live in fl too in the southern most parts, yet i don’t see casey digging a hole
Boy am I glad I just got in here and missed all the excitement. Sabrina, Kris, Snookers, Allie, and Sharon how are you guys.
fine.
hi dak…well you really didn’t miss much, going good…so what’s new on ants case if any ?
oh i remeber you saying something about the cleaning stuff/lady ? what did you mean ?
Just type in http: (before hand)
//www.thespoof.com/news/spoof.cfm?headline=s2i40741#this
Oh i just meant that she worked for the cleaning company and wondered if the dealt with chloroform. It was just a longshot, I know she’s not involved, but I do have suspicious mind.
As far as the protester go I feel they have the right to protest but atleast in a reasonable way. Not late at night and defenitely not with their children.
well have to go for a bit.
pls keep it civil guys..
Words can just be as painful as knife stabbing. Some people are so easily hurt/devastated. You donot know what else is going on in their lives.
Beat up on me when I get back. I can handle it.
BBL
By the way guys I am sorry that My2cents came after you guys I do appreciate his/her gesture but it was a little too rough and I hope it doesn’t happen again
the protesters could be more resectful i agree, i assume you’re talking about the boy with his arm slammed ? if you are then i can say that woman was there cause of the midnight vigil the ants were holding in their yard and from what i’ve seen is, she and C were shouting at each other C in driveway woman on street, the woman went back to her car and C rushed up into the car door, i seen the woman push C’s hand away befor getting out of her car…i think the woman was about to leave when C came at her in a threatening way
Chloroform can also be used to make meth…
lol snookers, you’re alright see ya later
By the way I found out earlier that Padilla(BH) was offered a $30000 book deal about this case.
hmm makes me wonder if that’s why casey was looking up cloroform, maybe she was making meth, thanks for the info elle…then than puts another spin in the case
I wonder how hard it would be to start a new blog.
only 30,000 that’s not much
dunno dak, we need one though
There have been some speculations by other people (not on here) that maybe Cindy and or George are the ones who looked up chloroform to get rid the DNA and odor.
Yeah Sabrina I agree I would of held out for $50000 – $100000. I guess he’s cheap.
I was just reading an Eyewitness News story on the Internet that the cops are now getting onto the theory that’s been bantered on the Internet for months.
That theory is that Casey may have meant the drug Zanex when she used the term Zanny the nanny and then made up the Zenaida Gonzalez name by using the first and last names of classmates. Her ex boyfriend Jesse Grund said in a polygraph exam that she asked him about the drug Zanex.
They said some of the other names of co-workers and friends she made up also were the first and last names of high school classmates.
I don’t know how a pathological liar’s mind works but this is fascinating.
Good that the investigators are figuring out she may have drugged Caylee, which is another theory that knocks out the Mother of the Year title Cindy gave to Casey.
Maybe we should give her an award for monster of the year.
concerned did you read elle’s post ? about chloroform ? i wonder how that smells, if it would be apealing to a child maybe caylee smelled it or drank some, or if casey was making meth and the vapers killed caylee, a new spin on case ?
Okay now I’m going to go eat dinner be back later.
dak i have never questioned the bh motives it really doesn’t matter to me i just wanted caylee found, anf if he could get publicity etc… it was fine with me, i can only imagine that any and all involved in the case will try to benefit from it including the ants
bye dak
I can’t quite figure out how they’re getting to a Zanax theory – it’s a Class 3 narcotic and is an anti-anxiety med. I haven’t read anything, sorry to be asking for an education on this but if you can help it would be appreciated.
Sabrina, if it were a meth related accident, it would be something she’d try and cover-up. Sorry officer, my daughter accidently used my meth lab for a tea party….I guess, if she’s a meth user, nothing that has happened so far would have much of an impact either. I’ve heard terrible stories about how people don’t care about anything when involved in it – including children and family.
Hi, finally home, and settled in. Now where were we?
lots of people are addicted to this drug as well as loratab, many different types of pain killers and sleeping pills etc… and they are easy to get…zanny is what many people refer to the drug, such as rupies, uppers, downers, it’s simply a nick name for xanex
I don’t remember every hearing any evidence that Casey was on meth. If your theory is true, Sabrina, it would be an accident and Casey could walk with a slap on the wrist.
I still believe Casey killed Caylee to get back at Cindy and to get her out of her life so she could be single again. I don’t believe it was an accident of any kind.
If Caylee died in an accident, she would have said so and not gone through this jail time and home confinement.
It was murder and that’s why she is blaming it on a fictitious nanny.
Sabrina,
Oh no, tell me the B.S. is not going to start all over again?
wb catherine, i’m about to go, i need to rest my eyes so i can be on later, my vision is getting blurry as usual…kris is having dinner and should be back soon, meanwhile a few other nice people are here to keep you company…see you guys later bye bye
LOL catherine i think it’s over with for the time being, but kris will have your back LOL
okaqy talk to you later
concerned i said about the meth cause elle told us that chloroform is used to make meth, i’m only sugesting it could be a possibilty…but i believe casey killed caylee in one way or another, i prefer to think it was accidental but i highly doubt it though…see ya guys later
Concerned,
I mentioned that chloroform is used to make meth which was something NG mentioned in the beginning of the Chloroform results. Sabrina was only commenting on that theory….it’s as good as any since we don’t really know for sure what happened. One of her boyfriends/friends did say she was into some drugs anyway. i would think the police would have tested her though when they arrested her.
Catherine, what do you think of the theory that Casey was using the chloroform to make meth and Caylee smelled it and it killed her.
This type of thinking that it was just an accident scares me. I fear we will get a juror who won’t believe that Casey actually chloroformed the child because she wanted a new lifestyle and to make her mother suffer.
How do you tell police you make meth and get a slap on the wrist when a homicide happens? I’m not saying that this is the best theory, but it would explain some of her detachment from the events that Casey exhibits.
Do you think the police are giving the polygraphs to all of M’s friends?
If so, what is the purpose if polygraphs are not admissable in court?
Concerned,
There is a lot of money in making or selling meth/speed. If she was making it or selling it why did she need to steal from Amy?
I’m not buying the drug addict theory. I think she smoked weed, took some acid, and drank a lot of beer.
It makes more sense to me that she wanted chloroform to drug Caylee. There is no evidence she was into meth let alone made her own.
The police give polygraphs so they can see if someone is telling the truth. They want to see who to believe. Once someone passes a polygraph they know everything they told them was the truth.
FYI: Crystal Meth Symptoms….On an emotional level, the effects of a meth addiction can be equally visible and devastating. Some of the emotional signs of meth abuse include irresponsibility, child neglect, and crime (to pay for the drug). A single puff of meth can keep a user high for 24 hours, unlike cocaine or heroin which only last for a couple of hours. For someone on the mend or looking to sustain the habit, this can lead to serious bouts of violence, paranoid schizophrenia and suicidal tendencies.
Catherine I think the purpose of the polygraphs is to see if everyones story holds up and possibly for some further insight into the things taht we said, but then again I could be wrong.
So if Casey was making meth do you think it was done in her trunk and thats how the chloroform got there.
If you are making meth and your child dies by inhaling chloroform, that is evidence of child neglect, not homicide. That carries a two year sentence.
The investigators are going to go for first degree murder using the theory that Casey murdered Caylee using chloroform because she wanted to live a free lifestyle of partying and sleeping with her boyfriends and she didn’t want her parents to have Caylee.
The testimony from her boyfriends and friends and the pictures of her pole dancing after Caylee went missing will prove that motive.
With first degree murder, she can get life without parole or the death sentence.
M. always was stealing or borrowing money from whoever was stupid enough give it to her or was stupid enough to leave there wallet near her. I knew a person when I was in college who ran a meth lab. First, you need to have some knowledge of the chemistry behind making drugs. Second, the building he used was an old barn out in the country the guy wore some kind of mask because
of the particles of the drug that were in the air. The guy never got caught, and went on to medical school with all the money he made. M. could never pull that kind of operation off.
Be back soon have to give the kids a bath.
I suppose M would not turn down anything that was offered to her, especially if it was free.
I do think that meth is a powerful drug, but it’s not like LSD.
i dont know but i still think monster gave caylee zanax.especially when they were all together playing cardsect.
Catherine, you’re right. I prefer to stick to evidence that the investigators have leaked to us concerning DNA tests, the air test, the chloroform, the police interrogation and jail house tapes with Casey Anthony’s voice on them and the 400 page report of interviews with Casey’s friends and her family. Nowhere in that evidence does anybody say Casey used or made meth.
I’m so glad that jurors will be admonished to only consider the evidence before them and not to come up with theories of their own.
Catherine, the meth users I have seen (have one in my extended family) have a lot of skin problems — they usually have what appears to be cold sores around their mouth and on their faces and body (as well as bad teeth)The lesions are from nerve damage causing poor circulation which causes the skin to itch. (users call it “the itch”)
JMO, but I think monster’s complexion and teeth are too clear and healthy looking for her to be using meth.
Sharon,
You could be right about M. drugging Caylee with xanax. In a way I hope that she did, and Caylee just went to sleep and died. I can’t imagine that baby being awake and that M. putting chloroform over her mouth, and locking her in a trunk.
that would explain why caylee slept through everything.
Concerned….it’s just another theory, not to be mistaken for fact. I just have a difficult time figuring out why someone would have such little regard for human life and not even have a breakdown emotionally…let alone thinking people will really buy all the lies. She’s out of touch, and it’s difficult to understand. See below
Involuntary manslaughter, sometimes called criminally negligent homicide in the United States, occurs where there’s no intention to kill or cause serious injury, but death is due to recklessness or criminal negligence.
Gumshoe,
Yes, meth users do have very bad teeth and really bad skin. They usually weigh about 80lbs soaking wet, and have a deep craving for sugar.I did have a friend who died from an overdose of that s-it. She was a beautiful girl, but when she died at 23 she looked like she was 60 years old.
Good point Gumshoe. I’m with you and Catherine. I think Casey drank a lot and might have smoked a little pot but I don’t think she was a drug user because she is too vain and is very concerned about having beautiful skin and white teeth. I think she gave Zanex and chloroformed Caylee while she partied because she couldn’t afford a nanny.
concerned i agree.
Padilla is on NG saying he thinks Casey had an accomplice.
I don’t knmow if she had an accomplice but I guarantee you (again) SOMEBODY knows something besides Casey.
Elle,
I hope manslaughter is not even on the table. I believe this case should be tried murder in the first degree.
i dont believe she had help. she has no trust and she would think this person would tell.
Gu,mshoe,
Maybe we will get lucky if she did have an accomplice, and he is offered immunity by LE to flip.
Sharon,
Her little poem said “Trust no one but yourself” so maybe your right.
I believe Padilla has some inside info on some things.
He is hinting at Tony helping to place the body in the dumpster.
Don’t think so–Tony didn’t know her long at all–why would he help her dispose of a body? Casey wouldn’t havee asked Tont, I am sure.
But she would ask Jesse, whom she knew loved her still and so hoped that Caylee was his child to the point of having it ruled out with paternity test.
I pray to God Jesse didn’t help her. (if Padilla really knows what he is talking about)
Elle, I have no problem believing Casey is a cold blooded killer. She shows no emotion and no concern that her toddler is not with her. She has been described by psychiatrists and FBI profilers as a sociopath or psychopath.
Sociopaths and psychopaths do not attach to family members and can kill them easily without any remorse.
I found it interesting when Casey was making up the story to the investigators that Caylee called her on the phone after being missing for five weeks and didn’t seem upset at all, that she talked about the book they had been reading that was in the videos. The cops asked her if that was normal to her and she said yes. She said Caylee was never upset when they were apart.
Casey was describing her own inability to bond with her daughter or anyone else. Casey feels no feelings. No one can hurt her or insult her. She just keeps smiling and high fiving and doing her own thing.
Gumshoe, Gumshoe, Gumshoe–silly silly Gumshoe!
Of COURSE she had NO HELP!!!
SHE WOULD HAVE ALREADY HAVE IMPLICATED HER HELPER BY NOW AS THE SOLE PERPETRATOR!!
My experience says that crank users can way 250 lbs and have perfect teeth – maybe not for the long haul but I had a family member that used it and had all the emotional signs I see in Casey. Just saying, that the people that look like they’re are 60, are really down the road with use I think, or at least that wasn’t the case with my family member.
sorry, weigh, not way 🙂
We may never know what she did with Caylee. That monster has ice running through her veins. To kill your own child, then slowly kill your parents is just unthinkable. She will never crack even when the facts, and evidence are put before her in a court of law. She will blame the police for not finding Zenaida, and Samantha who she will scream are the real killers.
Concerned, I thought the police asked some really great questions when it came to Caylees fairytale phone call.
I think she may have killed her, and if there are drugs involved, I’m sure that will be confirmed down the road through the trials. It’s hard to believe any mother could do this, but it has happened many times before.
Concerned,
I also found it interesting that she said when she spoke to Caylee on July 15th Caylee was talking about her shoes and reading a book, and then the M. said, “like she read the book on the video” like she was trying to use that video as proof that Caylee likes to read books. She then said “you can ask my Caylee never get upsets when she hasn’t talked to me” that statement doesn’t make any sense. Everyone said what a great mother she was and how much she loved Caylee. If that was the truth Caylee would have cried when she heard her mother’s voice on the voice.
meant to say you can ask my Mom not Caylee
I think i ran them off tonight, Catherine. I’m leaving now – have NG to watch. Have a good evening.
Nice talking with you Elle.
Who would laugh when they are being interviewed by police about their missing daughter?
Catherine said,in September 17th, 2008 at 7:39 pm Who would laugh when they are being interviewed by police about their missing daughter?
I laughed once about my daughter missing, but it was in my own home and right when I found her. She snuck into a closet sat down with a cookie jar and had chocolate all over her face…lol (just not in front of cops)
Evening guys…back now after bathing the princess.
I would love to know some of the questions investigators asked her friends on their polygraphs. (bsides asking Jesse if she had ever mentioned Xanax to him)
my take on NG show tonight, the tapes in specific, seems 95% of all the names casy gave cops has either moved or changed phone numbers and no way to get intouch with any of them, imagine that hmmm and left her cell phone on her desk at US ha
is she really insane as pammy said, pammy might be right
I think she’s coldblooded and calculating, which could hinder the idea of insanity. People like that do not have control over their thoughts all the time, whereas Casey always “acts” as if she’s in control.
Could G. have lied about saying he saw M. and Caylee on June 16th at 12:50 P:M:. when in fact she left the house on June 15th after the fight with her mother. She then came back to her parents house in the afternoon on June 16th.
She chloroformed or drugged Caylee and threw her in the pool. She then took her body out and put in in the sandbox or the playhouse until she could come up with a plan to get rid of Caylee’s body. She started to panic and called her parents to say there was an accident, and Caylee drowned. When the calls weren’t returned she thought up the nanny story.
I like that theory Catherine…could have some merit too…Only thing I wouldn’t understand is why G would lie for her about seeing her on the 16th…unless he is in on where the body is.
Well the three bullies are back together again. Who can we beat up next. LOL
FYI: If that person comes in here I am going to ignore anything that person says.
They seem to try to use little digs though Catherine and I know I ignored a few of them the other night. I think when they know they are being ignored, they try to do this only to get a rise out of us.
When I said “a few of them” I was referring to posts from this person. Not to more than one person…just for clarification with anyone.
i was just reading the posts that were made since i left earlier…is it the bit possible that casey was hauling the cloroform to someone to make meth and it over in the trunk ? perhaps she left caylee in the car while going inside somewhere store or what ever and caylee passed away from the fumes ? don’t get mad at me for my theory it’s only 1 among many
Kris,
I honestly don’t know. I can’t imagine that he is in on hiding the body. I think G. would have called the police and said there was an accident.
I just don’t think he is involved in the whole zanny the nanny story.
I would never get mad at anyone for their theories sabrina. In fact I thought of something similar too as a possibility. If she stuck her in the trunk to go somewhere it is feasible. I’m not sure how much fumes would come off of let’s say a puddle of it if it were to spill. But I would think it might be possible.
I too agree with those who believe that monster did the unthinkable act herself and did not tell anyone. I also have a difficult time believing any of Padilla’s theories. He seems to simply guess at things rather than tie them together with sound evidence. I learned to like him as a person but I’m not too sure about his instincts. Plus, look how easy it was for him to be convinced, at the beginning, that monster was telling the truth about someone having Caylee and she was still alive. And all because the monster said so, regardless of evidence, even at that time, pointing to foul play. He was all over Florida and the media speaking out for her. Surely NG can get other guests on her show to discuss this case.
I just watched a video that has nothing to do with this case but found it worth sharing. There is lebinese cleric saying the Mickey Mouse should be killed because he says Mickey is the Devils agent.
I too am starting to wonder about G’s involvement now. It just doesn’t make sense if before talking to Lee that the parents were more than willing to partake in a polygraph. That usually is not a sign of a guilty person, unless they felt they could beat the test somehow. It wasn’t until Lee changed their minds about doing so. This is what gave me pause on the parents.
I have to agree with MMT believing Padilla.
kris maybe G found out he was Caylees dad as a lot of people have been thinking.
Dak…they said that about Barney too. And also about one of those weird alien characters (can’t think of the name right now).
Dak, my man…now you are using your nogin!
You at least know how to connect the dots.
Hey kris you never know this family.
let me say this, i was hauling a bottle of vodka in my trunk “cause it’s dry county here” well it rolled around in the trunk and banged on a metal pry bar hubby had put in the trunk, it caused the bottle to leak, any way i smelled it pretty quick after hearing the clank sound it made from hitting the pry bar, just saying if casey had non secured cloroform in the trunk and it spilled out could it had been enough to kill little caylee, especially if caylee were left in the car while casey was making the delivery of cloroform ?
Hey RV I’ve always been able to connect the dots just not in the right order.
The lies M. tells just don’t make sense. Does she thinks the police are not going to check out everything she is saying.
What doesn’t make sense is she said Jeff introduced her to Zanny four years ago. Zanny watched his son which he said was a lie. So there is no one that has ever seen Zanny except Caylee and M. and of course Zanny sister Samantha and Samantha’s children. IF zanny took Caylee to all the malls and stores around the neighborhood wouldn’t someone come forward, and say oh yeah, I remember seeing that woman and that child together.
Sabrina you live in Alabama right.
Nothing with this family would surprise me at this point in time. I thought about the incest theory and have not ruled that out in my mind either.
Say, I’ve been reading some posts, and I know I told twocents I wouldn’t blog again, but I will with you two. So, if you can find that person, perhaps we could switch to another blog as not to interrupt these kind people.
yes dak, bama gal now but not always
i’m glad we switched blogs, i hated that other one with casey’s face every time i refreshed lol
I think my2cents went overboard attacking the others here and I personally apologize because he used my name alot. I do appreciate the gesture but I can fend for myself and all that was really uncalled for. So to anyone here that have or may later offend or upset I do apologize.
Didn’d see the other post above..just your answer sabring (bama)…I thought you were giving a political pitch (abbreviated) saying your democrat…lol.
Sabrina,
Good theory, the chloroform could have been purchased to sedate Caylee, but the bottle may have broke if it was just laying loose in the trunk. The fumes from a bottle of chloroform in a trunk would be lethal.
What county or city.
Oh my typos are terrible tonight..lol
HAHAHA ! you’re a hoot kris !
lamar county
Okay. I have a sister that used to live in Fort Payne.
Kris, please keep in mind that Padilla was the one who planted the seed in our mind that Lee changed C&G’s minds about taking the polygraph. That doesn’t make it true. I see C&G as strong characters who make up their own minds. Plus, I’m sure they would seek advice from an attorney. (Don’t mind me… I just wrote how I feel about Padilla’s sixth sense) LOL
I think it is entirely possible that Monster could have been involved with a meth lab. I think from pics she certainly hung with some savory looking characters.
Reasonable,
That’s a great idea, you should leave.
MMT,
Good point.
MMT….Do you think they could be innocent though of involvment based on originally opting to take one. That was just my first impression. Maybe Lee knew the truth went inside and laid it out to them, so then they knew and also knew they could no longer volunteer for it.
keep in mind you guys i’m not saying that it IS what happened, i don’t think it did, yet a possibility, maybe she wasn’t making the meth herself but could be involved, maybe she never used meth or maybe she did and decided she liked it and was just getting started
That was just a thought. That maybe monster was close enough with her brother (no pun intended..even though we think other things), that she would tell him the truth of it. And he is more of an honest person and couldn’t stand to see his parents come apart at the seams so disclosed the promise later?
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padilla said lee told him face to face that they were not going to take poly, padilla said he told lee is was better if they did so it would clear his family, lee said he didn’t care the answer was no…now some people think padilla has alterior motives, maybe he does, but i don’t care i just want caylee found and if he could/ve done t then OK with me
Kris,
G. was a homicide cop, why would he even consider taking a polygraph test. What’s in it for them to take the test. No one believes they harmed Caylee. However LV is a different story.
Okay stupid question here who is LV
i don’t know if casey would spare the xanex to put caylee to sleep in order to party, it would more feesable for casey to take the xanex and give caylee benedryl
I think they should inject monster with chloroform. That would be something, a punishment to fit the crime!
The one new thing I learned on Nancy Grace tonight was that investigators interviewed Jeffrey Hopkins whom Casey claims introduced her to Zenaida who was his son’s nanny. Jeffrey said he worked in another section of Universal from Casey and barely knew her, only said hi and bye and no Zenaida ever worked for him.
The dates of when Jeffrey Hopkins and Zenaida were fired at Universal are vague. Casey admitted on the tape that she was fired from Universal but said it was in 2006.
Records show Jeffrey Hopkins was fired from Universal in 2002. I believe I read once that Casey was also fired in 2002. That makes more sense because I can’t imagine her holding down a job for four years. I bet she didn’t work there long. If she is 22, she would have been 16 in 2002.
It’s interesting that she would remember his name if she barely knew him six years ago. She told the cops she had just spoken to him a week ago. But of course, she didn’t know his telephone number. The excuse for not knowing anyone’s telephone number is they moved often and changed their number.
if she killed caylee deliberately and the risk of her body being found which it probably will some day wouldn’t the drug be detectable?
There you go Kris if she gets the death penalty you should suggest that.
that’s right concerned i noticed that too, she’s such a liar
Kris,
When M. talked to LV when she was in jail, aqnd he said I’m not going to go through what you put
Mon through for the last 4-5 weeks so, you are just better off telling us the truth because we are going to find out what happened.
Do you think that was B.S. because he knew he was being taped by the police?
Kris,
When M. talked to LV when she was in jail, and he said I’m not going to go through what you put
Mon through for the last 4-5 weeks so, you are just better off telling us the truth because we are going to find out what happened.
Do you think that was B.S. because he knew he was being taped by the police?
how long would chloroform knock a person out ? in movies it doesn’t take long for them to come out of it
sabrina, from what i understand from a lab perspective and also from watching many “true crime” shows, is that they can even unearth a body from a grave years later and somehow the chemicals can be extracted and detected in either the remaining tissue or bone. I remember one story about a woman who used a product to poison her husband which could be purchased at a fish store and killed him, they later dug up her 1st husband and tested him and the same poison was retained in the bone. She was convicted. So I think they possibly could find this out.
Kris, I hate to say this because it makes me sound naïve, but I still believe that the Ants are so immersed in their daughter’s lies that they can’t see the forest for the trees. The trees that monster has planted in front of them as obstacles. I know what Padilla said about how C&G changed once the air test came back but, again, that’s just a guess on his part. Nothing he says is fact. He is not part of LE and is only trying to theorize like we are. I do believe that G told the truth at the beginning when he said he saw monster and Caylee leave on June 16th. I do believe that now they are unknowingly covering up for monster because they believe what she says and not what LE or the protesters are yelling outside their door. They may never stop believing her… that happens in so many cases when a son or daughter is arrested for murder.
catherine LOL how did you say that twice ???
Not sure on that one Catherine. I think many things they do are for the sake of the media, or police.
I know that monster shakes her booty for the sake of the cameras..but she is viewing this attention and new found fame way different than her family I think. Very sick.
Sabrina, Casey is no fool. She drove around with the body in the trunk of her car decomposing in the Florida heat. Then she either dumped the body in alligator infested waters or somewhere where she knew it wouldn’t be found. She knows Caylee’s body won’t be found or if it is, only a bone or two will be found. There will be no way to determine how she died or if there were any drugs in her body.
kris i seen that show, she use algea destroyer for fish tank…and labs can find toxins in hair too that if hair is present along with the bones and teeth, i watch all these type of programs, sheesh i must be warped lol
MMT…I agree with that. I think it’s very sad that the family is handling it that way. If it were my daughter and I loved my granchild I would have to say at some point I’d be forced to accept the truth. But I honestly don’t think I could circle my wagons that way. It is just so cold hearted the way eveything came down with that monster, that as sad as it is I can’t say I would stand behind her. It would feel betraying of my love for the little one that died.
M. seems so sure that Caylee is not going to be found. Maybe she did feed her to the gators. That way she can keep on lying and lying, and never get caught. She knows there not going to find a body and maybe her in her mind she thinks no body, no crime. It’s the same thing concept as the Natalie Hollaway case.
I’m sure too when monster told the investigators that Zanaida changed her cell from AT&T to Sprint and such they checked out all those databases. And tell me… when you talk to your friends do you know who their cell provider is? I sure don’t. I know who my kids have their cell with but that’s about it. More of her detailed lies to make it sound real.
concerned i agree she drove around eating pizza while her dead daughter was in the trunk and i do believe she killed her, i’m just speculating on how etc… the why is pretty clear to me, my mind tends to work over time when trying to digest certain things i can visualise so many different scenarios, i like to analize stuff, but for the most part i agree with you
your not warped sabrina, your just like me too. I like to watch the CSI shows (not the make believe ones), only because of two reasons..I am entirely intrigued with how a piece of microscopic evidence can put together a whole crime and convict. And the second reason being I feel with my lab work, that I missed my calling and should have gone back to school for more to get into the forensic end. It is just so intriguing.
casey could have thrown caylee in a sink hole if so poor caylee is likely to never be found
kris you can still do that you already have all the basic stuff to start with
MMt..on your post about cell phones. I do know that certain providers would have certain prefixes of numbers to begin their numbers with. Like here 830- is a sprint number. It was only in the recent couple years that the laws were changed to enable a cell phone user to move over to another company but retain their current phone number. Which put all the companies into a tailspin over that. But before that went into affect I use to know “some” not all of the prefixes to be able to say where some of my friends at least originated there plans from.
I’m on my husband’s laptop. My laptop is getting repaired. God knows what that will cost.
Anyway, he has all kinds of bells and whistles on his laptop, and I don’t know howI did that.
I don’t dare ask him, because he will say “what are you doing breaking my laptop”
I wish I could sabrina…my health and the demands of family won’t allow that.
I see you have one that jumps the gun too Catherine. Mine is like that , scream and convict someone first and put them through hell, then later listen to reason. They all can be a**holes.
Nancy Grace’s defense attorneys always say without a body and confession they can’t get a murder confession. And Nancy Grace and the other former prosecutors on her show always say the state has enough DNA and circumstantial evidence now to get a murder one conviction.
I believe Nancy Grace and the other prosecutors. I have seen trials on Tru TV where juries have convicted defendants with much less evidence than this.
The pretty sweet nurse whom her patients and friends said never could have murdered her husband and cut him up and put his body parts in suitcases and throwing them into the river was convicted of murder one based on her forging a prescription which they said she used to drug him, being seen on video driving his car in Las Vegas to make it look like he was gambling and the suitcases belonging to her.
Like Casey, she had the “some other dude did it” defense. She said he was a gambler and must have owed some money to the mob. He was a gambler but the mob doesn’t kill people and cut up their body and throw them in the river.
I think the testimony of her mother on the 911 call, the homicide detective on the stand and the cadaver dog and air test proving there was a dead body in Casey’s car trunk and DNA evidence showing that body was Caylee’s are as good as a body.
That scientific evidence combined with the circumstantial evidence of her Myspace page saying everybody lies and dies, her mother’s Myspace page saying jealousy took Caylee from her, Casey deliberately misleading and lying to the police and refusing to help in finding her daughter will land her on death row.
the only reason casey would mention the company names is an attempt to make her lies more believable, and everyone she’s named has moved and can’t be found now and since most of the names are made up it would be impossible to contact them…juliette lewis for one is one of brad pitts ex girl friends, but i didn’t put it together even though i know who she is i thought she must be talking about another juliette lewis lol
I only know my children’s provider because we are on that friends list. I thin it is altel
Concerned , I’m glad you posted that. I was worried if they could go for murder 1, and I know NG is a smart lady. If she says it’s true I believe her and I hope they do. Anything less for monster would not leave me happy.
I meant to say without a body and confession they couldn’t get a murder conviction not murder confession.
they absolutely can get a murder conviction, the ants might think no body no crime but that’s a myth that they are placing their hopes on
Kris said,in September 17th, 2008 at 9:12 pm “I think it’s very sad that the family is handling it that way. If it were my daughter and I loved my granchild I would have to say at some point I’d be forced to accept the truth. But I honestly don’t think I could circle my wagons that way. It is just so cold hearted the way eveything came down with that monster, that as sad as it is I can’t say I would stand behind her. It would feel betraying of my love for the little one that died.”
I’m with you there Kris… but C&G evidently don’t have the parenting skills that you have. That’s why their daughter is like she is. Most likely they fed to her sociopath gene by giving her all she wants and expecting nothing in return. Never teaching her values, real values come with having responsibility at a young age. A parent has to give balance to a child. Not shower them with superficial things. I’ve read many times that a child’s personality is formed by the time they are five years old. Can you imagine that… it’s too late to try and teach them values at 16 if up until then everything’s been handed to them on a silver plater.
I always thought they could convict without a body? It would just be harder to do so, but with enough evidence it could be done. I seem to remember a case involving a boat and a husband who dumped his wife, and was convicted of murder for it, without the body.
i hate food commercials ! they make me hungry lol
Based on what you stated MMT about the age of 5 being set in stone. I think I better step it up a notch further with my daughter she’s 4 now! lol.
I do hope they find a body though because I think that would knock the hot air right out of Baez and Casey. They are so smug because they think the state is stalling because they don’t have a case without a body.
If the state proceeds without a body, Baez will say Caylee is alive and has been spotted in Puerto Rico with Zenaida. If the state finds a body, he will say Zenaida and Samantha did it.
As I listened to Casey’s story about Zenaida and Samantha jumping her in the park and driving off with Caylee and leaving her with a script of what to tell police, she sounds like a third grader. That story is more unbelievable than anything she’s told.
A childs personality by 5 huh. Dman I have 1 month til my son is 5.
omg after hearing so much about a childs pathology and such makes me so happy to never have had children…i agree kris, it should nmake no matter who the person is if they are wrong then they are wrong, i love all of my family yet i hate some things they do
Concerned about Caylee said,in September 17th, 2008 at 9:35 pm
As I listened to Casey’s story about Zenaida and Samantha jumping her in the park and driving off with Caylee and leaving her with a script of what to tell police, she sounds like a third grader. That story is more unbelievable than anything she’s told.
I think I missed something in this case, I thought the story was monster left her at some steps and that was the last she saw of her daughter. Now it’s changed again? I hate to be nieve’ but I am having trouble keeping up with all the lies.
dak better step it up lol
She does sound like a third grader. Bet she said back then that the dog ate her homework too. lol.
Kris, she told Padilla and Dick the park story when they were guarding her after she got out of jail on the first bond.
casey has told about 4 different storie/lies about where she last seen caylee one is zenaida and sis jumped and took caylee another is caylee was in zenaidas car playing with her kids and zenaida and sis took off with caylee another is the steps, another is she laft caylee with zenaida to spend the week at the beach, oh and the script was to be told to the police after 30 days
So there were Two different stories told then? One to police, and one to Padilla? Wow, that’s audacious of her, makes her look even worse yet.
i’m sure there’s probably more lies just haven’t heard them yet, i see NG holding her head just the same way i do when listening to casey lol
Wow 4 different stories….Wholly mackeral!
When M. says, I left work just like every other day and went to pick up Caylee but no one answered the door. Then she said she called Zenaida, and the number was disconnected. So I waited around on the steps for a while and then I went over to Jay Blamchard Park and checked a oouple of other places that I know Zenaida shops at and she’s taken Caylee before. Then
i went to a neutral place “my boyfriend Tony’s house”
#1 She had no job.
#2 She had no company cell phone that wouldn’t stay charged.
#3 If Zenaida was known at these stores why hasn’t anyone come forward with any info to back up what the M. is saying.
#4 My favorite…IF Zenaida stole Caylee why would she stay in the area that she frequents all the time.
#5 Where was M. on Monday July 16th?
Is there anyone that saw her in the daytime hours.We know C. and Amy went over to Tony’s at 7 P:M:. She told her mother she wasn’t leaving Tony’s until her mother said she was calling the police.
Then she turns around and tell LE that’s she glad her mother found her and she told her about Caylee being missing. She didn’t tell her mother right away that Caylee was missing she aqsked her for one more day.
Y Q and not CDC?
Kris, in the People magazine article on Caylee missing, they interviewed neighbors who knew Casey as a kid and said she was always a pathological liar.
They said as a child Casey would walk her dog and let it poop on their yard and when they’d scold her for it, she’d deny it happened even though they and Casey saw it.
Cindy told Nancy Grace those neighbors were lying because “we never had one dog. We always had two.” Nancy Grace just blinked.
padilla said first casey started with the zenaida lie and he told her he didn’t want to hear that and casey threw him out of her house LOL ! then she told dick something else with the script in it, told police that steps and then the park zenaida story…someone ciorrect me if i’m wrong
Yeah Catherine, the one thing that got me on the tapes was when the cops (tape 5 I believe), asked her about the previous roommates of Zenaida and how often she seen or met them, she said something about only a handful of times, they mostly had conflicting schedueles. I thought that was the cherry on the sundae. You could hear the cop sitting in front of her let out an exasperated sigh, and also hear monster hesitate, thinking , “oh did I just say that” in her head. And the web keeps spinning…….
concerned i’m falling out of my chair !!! that’s so funny about the dog poop LMAO ! i know it’s not funny but it is lol
I forgot to say I was on the floor doubled over with laughter when Cindy said that. She always lies and denies every time someone says one word about her perfect Mother of the Year daughter.
Sabrina,
Oh your not wrong. She has told so many stories that I’m loosing track of them all. I bet the police wish that bail was never posted for that lying baby killer. She may have cracked, but know we lost that chance.
Guess C&g just can’t see through the poop at all anymore, even if it’s from a dog. Lol.
catherine you’re a better listener than me i can’t repeat things word for word, one thing that got me is when casey pointed out where zenaidas room was in the apartment when cops pointed out that zenaida never even lived there, she never says oooops uh oh i’m sorry now i want to explain
I really hope that if a book comes out eventually it will be for someone that has set up a memorial fund or something in Caylee’s name, because I sure would like to read it. But won’t if it makes the family money.
catherine i think there’s other charges police can arrest her with but what good does it do when she keeps getting bailed out, i’m with you if they would leave her in jail she might come closer to cracking
You know I’m starting to think C is just as crazy as M. They both seem to have read the book on how to lie and get away with it everytime, or your money back.
Most people who have raised a teenager can at some point tell when they are lying to them. I don’t know of one teenager that hasn’t at some point, but most parents through the years would become astute to this, at least enough to know the signs when they do.
here’s dog poop to the ants i have no doubt C probably told casey( now casey just remember to take the dog to the neighbors yard don’t let him poop in our yard, ok dear) LMAO !
Just in case I scared those who are raising young children… this explains more of what I meant when I said a person’s personality is shaped by five years old. I find it very interesting… I don’t know if you will too.
Freud said that our personality is shaped by the age of five.
The first stage, Trust vs. Mistrust, occurs from approximately birth to one year.
The second stage, Autonomy vs. Shame & Doubt, occurs between ages two and three.
The third stage, Initiative vs. Guilt, occurs between ages four and five.
sabrina…that’s too funny. They sound like the village idiots!
Stop Sabrina my stomach hurts from laughing.
Why the hell would you lie over dog poop.
oh catherine C&C probably lied about the book didn’t work and got their money back LOL !
Gonna have to call it a night. I have to go back to work tommorrow morning. I had off today which helped me stay up chatting last night late. But I’m starting to feel the pain of that neck swelling again and need to get some sleep and a few ibuprofens. I’ll talk to everyone tommorrow. Good night cyber sleuths!
George and Cindy are so typical of the codependents in the dysfunctional family. A former homicide detective and registered nurse, George and Cindy know there was a dead body in their daughter’s car. Yet, they deny it to protect their daughter.
They know their daughter is a liar because they’ve accused her of that and still they defend her lies and lie for her.
They know their daughter is a thief and yet they’ve never pressed charges against her for stealing $45,000 on their credit cards and cleaning out her own grandmother’s bank account. Instead, Cindy paid her mother back.
Codependents defend and bail out the perpetrator and enable them to continue to commit crimes against them and others.
Cindy’s brother said that Cindy’s mother, father and he were disgusted because Cindy never made Casey accountable for her lying and stealing.
Cindy;s and George’s family also do not believe Casey is innocent in Caylee’s death. That’s why they aren’t standing up for her. They are quiet.
LMAO Your probably right.
concerned that’s a very scarey thought or observation from frued, again i’m glad to never have had children, although i did want a couple when i was younger to old to worry about that now…catherine must have been the first chapter in the book “dog poop lying 101) LOL
ok kris good night hope you feel better real soon, sleep tight
Why don’t some of the protesters go protest at that Nashville Company that posted the bail for that liar.
Then go to BB office, and his house.
Then go to LV house.
Let’s get some protest groups organized.
Sabrina, you are bad.
Did I hear a cat in the room earlier?
of course they know she’s a liar and a theif, she didn’t become that way over night at her 22nd bday…they can’t fool anyone
a cat ? catherine i thought we were talking about dogs oh you mean casey ? an alley cat ?
as for the protesters although i believe it’s their right, i do think they could be more respectful of the neighbors, yet i still understand why they are protesting, perhaps we should organize them a bit lol
Concerned,
Your right the grandmother has not been around to support the murderer.
I wonder what the extended family have to say about M.
we know that C has parents there but what about the rest of extended family ? i haven’t heard anything about or from them
Sabrina,
Scroll up to 8:51 P:M:
ok scrolling up
ah LOL ! sliding kitty litter box with a stick and tossing sardines at the stray hisser ! omg ! what a meowzerable thing
That Jay Blanchard Park plays a big part in this case. Any other Mom would say I went over to the park or I went over to the playground, then wait for the police to ask the location.
i think casey is saying things to throw off the search, what ever she told me i would look in the opposite direction
catherine do you 3 posters on here is the same person ? i do, seems like they lay in wait and as soon as one of us is on one of them will zoom in
That Rob Rick BH said she told him she went right over to the Jay Blanchard Park right after her pretend job. Who told her to go there? She said Zenaida’s phone was disconnected. Since there is no record of any phone calls between M and Zanny that’s another lie. She probably put Caylee’s body there after she took her from the back yard. Then she picked up Caylee’s body and drove around with that poor dead baby until she couldn’t stand the smell anymore.
Good evening All,
I have been reading and reading to catch up but still not entirely,
wanted to comment this though;
NO MATTER HOW M lies,
HO DO YOU EXPLAIN death in HER trunk??
AND BACK YARD??
I think she will be convicted of some form of
murder in causing death to her daughter.
i can’t imagine 3 or more pages open at once in order to act like i’m 3 different people it’s hardly worth the effort, seems pathological to me…maybe it’s casey or her mom LOL
yeah while eating pizza all the while GAG ! hi cj
LMAO
oh yeah cj i’m quite comfident casey will be convicted no doubt in my mind
Could be, there are a lot of nuts that are like the Ant’s but live in different houses. It’s just strange that one comes into the room and then pops the other one apologizing for how another spoke to us. Three on a stick, oh yeah!
She reads a lot but she is smart.
Hmmm….you never thought twice?
the ole BWAHAHAHA syndrome creepy !
Or, do you have to handle her with kidgloves….hmmmmm.
reasonable voice what do you mean ?
You need to back read and pay closer attention to others outside your stich and bit@# group
cj,
From your mouth to God’s ears.
Sabrina,
Did you hear that alley cat again? I think I’ll call the SPCA.
nah i don’t want to play games, it’s to late at night for that, just say what’s on your mind
Hi Sabrina,
I am glad you believe she will be convicted of murder too,
theres just SO MUCH evidence we already know about let alone WHAT WE DON’T KNOW!!
yeah i did catherine, but to tired to play IT’S games
Why don’t don’t you take the hint “reasonable” and leave.
we are adults and don’t want to play your little games.
cj there’s been to many convictions without a body to believe otherwise, she’ll get hers, i’m devided on rather i want her to spend life in prison or get the death penalty
I don’t believe the the one lawyer on NG that thinks she couldn’t get homicide, without a body.
catherine i think it was something i said that got that response from him/her, it’s a petty game something like the not touching you game kids play, or the repeating game lol
Sabrina,
I think life w/o parole is the same as a death sentence. She won’t last a year in jail.
Couldn’t she get negligent homicide or something like that.
Sabrina,
Your so right! I just don’t get why some people act so crazy.
Does anyone here checkout other website forums other than bloggersnews.
I hope that Jan starts a new blog soon, she said she is moved back now, so hopefully soon..
this ones going slow too.
i agree she will be hated more then dahmer, catherine, will you be ok if i leave ?
Sabrina,
I think I am going to contact blogger news and have some people reported for harassment.
Did anyone else hear anything about certain website pages and content relating to this case being shutdown.
yep this blog is stuffed, cj you gonna stay a while ?
I’m calling it a night too.
Good night Sabrina & cj
i’m sure there’s a place that can be done catherine in case you need a witness
ok catherine sweet dreams see ya tomorrow, gnite cj
I am mixed between life in prison and death too, here we have death by hanging or legal injection, but really thats a quick way out, life in prison HAS to be worse if you think about it..
What makes this case with M different than with Drew is that they didnt have concrete evidence with Drew, just that Stacy left with her boyfriend – yeah right..
I thik this with M will go down more like the peterson case did…
I hope they do find Caylee’s body so she can get the death penalty. After all the things everyone has been through nothing else will do.
Yeah lethal injection is too slow. Too bad they can’t torture her.
in am here for awhile, wish was running faster when we post but i am here.
Me too I hate slow blogs. So what do you think about torture.
I guess I scared them off again.
Its not like I have anything better to do right now.
So so far I have heard of 4 stories Casey has given about Caylle missing and wondeer how many more there will be before trial.
It’s taking several minutes for my posts to show up, this is toooo slow, sigh.
Goodnight Sabrina and Catherine, I will probably go soon too.
I’ve been trying to find a slower post.
If you go to http://www.bloggernews.net/117461 there are only 150 post.
It’s hard to tell since M is always lying with everything, my guess would be she will keep making up stories as long as she lives.
True. She would make one hell of a storyteller.
makes sense lets go to
117461.
anybody else come aboard go to
the blog with less posts,
117461.
Cool
I’m sorry its actually 117641
The blog moved to 117641 if anyone wants to join.
Its under Caylee Anthony’s mom sprung again.
http://www.bloggernews.net/117506
has only 28 posts
Catherine, Therapist, pammyliz, Concerned, etc
hi sabrina,catherine where is everyone?
iwent to 117641 no one there
Hi, Sharon! That’s where they ended last night and most likely where it will start again this morning.
catherine responds:
Monster told police that she also left Caylee on the steps, (Quote from AI ,the last time I saw Caylee was on the steps….)
I think the prosecutor has a good case.. I don’t see why a jury wouldn’t convicted a liar….In the minds of jurors, why would you lie this much to HELP FIND your daughter? Unless you don’t want your daughter found…?
So why don’t you want your daughter found?
This is a no brainer…Everyone can see it…
Monster sat there and told Detectives that she would lie and steal to help find her daughter …
Well she has the lying and stealing right…LOL
Hi, allie! The blog moved last night to:
Caylee Anthony’s Mom Sprung Free Again
117641
Nothing realy new last night at the Ants house . Just more of the same….
Twice the Sheriffes had to be called out to the Ants house again…
But get this people…………..
MONSTER (CASEY) was the one who called the police…..She called the police!!!!!
Why now, cause her mom and dad are arguing with protestors that she brought on herself…
I almosted shit myself when in heard that…LOL
(Instead I just changed a shity diaper)
I thought she didn’t trust the police, isn’t that what she said in the begining????
Now what? Send the cavalry to save your a$$?
People are angry with Monster not C&G..C&G are the ones that want to harbor the monster…
So it goes hand an hand…Like monster and Daez..LOL
Can someone leave a link…Can’t find the blog. See you later after dinner. Thankyou Kris
Kris,
Everyone is over at Caylee Anthony’s Mom Sprung Free Again. Come on over.
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