Casey Anthony met with her confinement officer today to talk about what times she would be allowed to leave her home and where she will be allowed to go. She has been restricted from leaving her house before 12:30 pm and when she does leave she has to return home by 4 pm.
After her visit with her confinement officer, Casey, who was joined shortly after by her attorney Jose Baez surrendered to authorities, and was charged with uttering a forged check, fraudulent use of identification and petty theft of $100 or more. This time the total for the bond for the new charges is $1250.
Orange county Sheriff’s Media relations spokesperson Carlos Padilla said, “The defendant was arrested without incident at the Orange County Jail following a scheduled visit with her home confinement release supervisor. She was with counsel at the time of her arrest and is expected to remain in custody until her first court appearance tomorrow.†It is a shame they can’t force her to stay in jail until she decides to talk. I say the hell with the Holiday Inn Treatment she is getting now and put her in with the bad guys and scare her into telling the truth.
Caylee’s grandmother, Cindy Anthony, went into a shouting match with one of the protesters that was in front of her home Saturday night. The woman yelled out to her calling her daughter, Casey a baby killer. They were screaming and cursing while Cindy was trying to put up the “No Trespassing†signs that had been torn out of the yard earlier. Caylee’s grandfather, called to report the incident.
A child of one of the protesters apparently got his arm caught in the door of the car as his mother was trying to leave. The father of the child reported that his son was fine but the mother was not available at the time to make a comment.
The Home Owners Association filed for an injunction with the ninth district court to try and get rid of the protesters in front of the Anthony home forcing them to go into an empty lot at the end of the street instead, which they expected to make a decision today. The courts have not made their decision yet though and there is no word as of right6 now when the judge will take up the case.
Friday audio recordings were released of the interview with Casey after she reported Caylee missing was analyzed by a local expert in voice stress analysis and it appears to have her worried. Susan Constantine told the Orlando Sentinel that she thinks she heard deception in Casey’s voice when she gave a long answer to a yes or no question. “Too much information is a true sign of lying,†Constantine said. She added that Casey’s answers seem rehearsed and she thinks her words did not coincide with the tone of her voice.
I have always thought that what she had to say to the authorities sounded like a speech she had practiced saying for a while. After all she did have the 30 days before she reported her then 2 year old daughter missing to practice what she was going to tell the police when they found out Caylee was missing. Casey Anthony is very manipulative and she knows just how to con people into doing just what she wants them to do and to believe every word that comes out of her mouth, except for this time. The time just might have come where all that will end. Let’s hope so anyway, because it is time this ends. Put Casey Anthony back in jail and put the focus back on finding Caylee. She is the one that is suppose to be in the spotlight here and she needs to be found.
Jan Barrett
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Follow-up comment rss or Leave a TrackbackAgain, Jan you’re right on the money. I’m glad to see you are back. I got used to your daily blogs and really missed them this last week. I need to feed my “Jan kicking Casey Anthony’s butt” fix.
Wow! This girl does have nerves of steel! She clearly is all about herself and thrives on attention. Now that she has had a taste of being at home and all the commotion that causes (which we know she loves!), and also a taste of “special” daily attention from her attorney, the police should attempt to keep her in jail once again for an extended period- it was a miracle she did not break during the first month-long stint(being the pampered princess that she is), however I would bet she might just start remembering some info. if she was suddenly cut off from the celebrity status she has been enjoying for a while now. Lock her up- and PLEASE- NO books, tv, phone or visitors!!! She is a mentally ill immature woman who “feeds” off of those around her- she must be completely cut off if we are to have any hope of finding her daughter. Give her an incentive to start cooperating!
Jan, thank you again for this post… Glad your move went well…
thank you also, for giving us the opportunity to share our thoughts…
So shall we make bet if she will bail out tommorrow.
Dak, should we bet dollars for doughnuts?
Donuts mmmmm.
I like glazed personally, and you?
Jelly filled
Yummy, in California, it wasn’t all that long ago, we got our first krispy cream!
Wow. Krispy Kreme is really good
Bad for the waist line, but so good for the soul!
True.
Ok back had to beat the kids to sleep…hehe that was sooooo not funny!
so the zanny nanny was made up long before the momster did what she did, she made up ‘the nanny story’ to tell friends and grandparents
lets do dollars i’m suger intollerent, i would leave her in there, but parents will probably get her out, they don’t want casey talking to anyone in jail she might slip up like oj did
So our lovely friend the Monster has a nother chance to be free tommorrow. I hope they find Caylee’s body soon and before trial.
Okay Sabrina we can make ones with splenda.
Amy,
Thanks
but those aint no good dak lol, i could bet a half of a good doughnut though lol
I’m here
I don’t think she’ll be talking if she is isolated like she is. The only one to talk to is her other selves.
Hey Pammy and catherine.
at this point i don’t care if she gets out on bail or not, i just hope that these charges stick and that they start to build a case against her, she will be behind bars in due time!
nah the gaurds come around and other inmates bring food and drink etc…if she’s lonely enough she’ll want to talk to someone
hi everyone following?
Yeah easy but with the charges she has against her she won’t be in for long and she won’t be on trial for anything until Nov.
I hope they find that little girl fast too….
Momster has no heart, she’ll drag everyone through the mud, no one is exempt from her wrath.. not even family..
Well Sabrina lets hope its female gurards since she seems to get around to the male officers.
she’ll be protected if she stays in jail with only a slot to slide food and drink in and out
WAIT let me rephrase what i said, i do care if she is in or out of jail, if release tomorrow – she is confined to her home which in my mind would be the same as jail. she will still continue to see lawyerboy in or out of home/jail
Too protected.
That sounds better Easy.
it may be both male and fem since a county jail or i think it’s county, may be city which would still be male/fem plus she can shout through the bars to other inmates
I gotta hit the hay all.. but if you move again let me know and I’ll check in the am
Well lets hope she doesn’t corrupt anymore officers.
as long as she is charged! at this point i think it very, very important to the caylee case that she has a prior conviction against her
sorry if i seem to be taking a lighter side to this
Its okay
she can still see her BB boy lol but not six hours a day lol, and probably would stop alot of the protesters, bet a whole doughnut neighbors are praying casey stays in jail LOL
Good night, pammy see you tomorrow… always a pleasure.
sleep tight pammy bye bye
Well it would be better to wait until her trial date so all the evidence can be presented and then it would make for a better conviction.
Do any of you guys remember reading the following about a Pathological Liar:
Extremely convincing and even able to pass lie detector tests.
YIKES!
Well if they go to court on the fraud charges now and then for murder thats two seperate trials and more money for taxpayers to spend.
amy i agree, however grandmomster and grandpopster and uncle (gotta think of something here) have put their own in that spot – no help needed from momster
I hope she stays in jail, state prison would be wonderfullllllllll!
I heard she dated 2 deputies… I know of one, but two?
anyone without a conscience can pass a poligraph i think but they all have refused to take a poligraph
State prison can happen until after the trial.
I think bail is $ 1250.00 so she will post
$ 125.00, and she home again. Unless, they are ready to charge her. Wouldn’t that be great!
The media keeps saying BB will insist on a speedy trial 60-90 days. I think the police have their evidence back from the FBI labs and are ready to move foward with the homicide charge. It’s BB that will hold things up by wanting to run their own DNA testing. Who is better qualified to do the tests than the FBI.
I say let’s rock and rock, and get this show on the road to the cement Holiday Inn.
it will have to seperate charges / trials
sabrina, yeah, I know but if the monster took one and passed, a lot of people would start believing her because they don’t understand the mind of a pathological liar. Kind of a scary thought.
LMAO @ catherine, you go girl ! i hope so
yea i know it would cost more, but the two are not related and i think they want to keep them separate – makes more of a case for the murder charges, like i said they only have one shot at it
well maybe she can pay off what the two trials will cost when she is in prison, you know ‘working’ for it, or put her on the chain-gang – i hear one prison has this, a line only for woman, can you see momster getting dirt under those manicured nails?
omg you’re right mmt i really hope the ants aren’t reading this blog
If they have all the evidence on a homicide charge I hope some of it can show she killed Caylee. I don’t want sound like I’m for her or anything, but unless they got something other than the DNA we all know about it will be hard to prove she killed Caylee and we wouldn’t want her to be found innicent of homicide.
Yeah Easy godforbid she mess up those pretty nails.
I bid you goodnight!
And remember NOBODY polka until Kris gets here!
I hope she goes to FCI in Tallahassee. That is where Eileen W. Forgot her last name went, and got injected. My youngest daughter lives in
Tallahassee, and she said the Mason girls are there too. Bad place.
oh aand nasty blisters too and on her pedicured feet lol, well all i can say is don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time lol
Cement Holiday Inn. I LOVE IT! oh wait rotflmao (thank you too who ever said that to me, i have now used that twice since you explained it to me – thanks : ) )
Who are the Mason girls.
Yeah! The cement holiday inn – a grand ol’ joint!
As of now, she’s used to the sweet treatment of county jail… she’s not seen anything yet.. county is like the cupcake place to stay compared to state. That will be a treat for sure….
State prison doens’t care what you did, everyone is treated the same…
Mommmy and daddy and even BB won’t be able to sooth her there..
gnite mmt sleep tight
Chsrles Manson- Susan Atkins Leslie Van-something. They killed Sharon Tate
(9 months pregnant) cut the baby out, and killed a couple of her friends that were staying at her house.. Really ugly murder scene
dak, they have more than dna, they have the odor tests from car trunk, decomp and chloroform and the searches on pc, also probably stuff they haven’t the public
Okay I thought they were in California.
is a lie detector even submissive in court? i hear some case wont even use them (maybe becasue the defense team already know the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth)
Manson? Thought they were here in Cali, with Charlie?
A book was written about the crime Helter Skelter. I think that was the name.
True Sabrina lets just hope thats enough.
even if the baby is never found i think they probably have enough cicumstancual evidence
Dak,
Crime done in CA.
Must take these people so much energy to stick to all these lies, and their daughters lies… I suppose the parents will have to take the stand, even if momster doesn’t… that will be interesting..
well guys/gal think i better get off of here too, hubby will be home soon, back on second shift ugh lol, so i need to start some dinner for him byeeee
So Catherine how did they end up in Florida for a California crime.
amy no they dont treat everyone the same, it don’t matter what jail your in, state, federal, county…if you harmed a child they don’t like that at all, even the guards will turn the other check if an inmate attacks a inmate who’s been convicted of harming a child
if convicted of murder of her child she will be in cell 23 hours day 1 hr to eat/shower – this will be for her safety, her lawyerboy will see to that
oh amy just seen your post i believe anyone can take the 5th on the stand, not sure though, the proicuter might be ale to compel them to answer maybe charge them for with holding or obstruction
Sabrina,
I totally agree. What is BB going to produce a 30 day script from Zanny.
That lying brat even lied when she said the last time she saw Caylle was on the stairwell.
She told BB that the last time was at Jay Blanchard Park where Zenaida and her sister Samatha put Caylee in the silver car, threw a 30 day script at her, and told her to abide by it. Okay even if this lie was true why didn’t
she call police on the 31st day?
wasn’t dahmer on death row and still got killed, or there is no death row where he was at ?
Good night, Sabrina… Always a pleasure!
So does anyone think she will tell where Caylee is if she is convicted.
Darn, for some reason, (I hoped) that witnesses couldn’t plead the fifth…
well momster has made up a story in her head, it’s playing like a movie and she is the star, so she replays it over and over to keep up with the lies, and the grandmomster have only said that caylee is kidnapped and they only have one lie to stick to
i hope they have enough evidence to convict (w/o body) and convict with premeditated murder 1st degree (that the highest charge, right?)
I don’t think she’ll ever tell… doesn’t seem to have the ability to tell the truth…
So,the police were right when they interviewed her. Every word she said about Caylee and Zanny was a lie.
If I were a juror I wouldn’t be able to believe anything she said. She has nothing to back up one thing she says.
What could she possibly say, that would change the results of the DNA evidence.
GUILTY. GUILTY, GUITLY
momster will only tell if faced with the death charge, however when was the last time someone was fried in fl? don’t they just rot on death row
Dahmer = some prison in Wisconsin…
No easy, there was a woman put to death not that long ago in Florida..
TBO.com
Detectives have said lab tests show Caylee’s decomposing body was in her mother’s car, and Anthony is their only “person of interest” in the girl’s disappearance.
Today is the first day they’ve said this… the detectives that is..
They’re getting close..
Dak,
Yes, I think when she is given the death sentence, she will plea to life w/o parole, and tell what she did with Caylee. Otherwise, she gets the needle. Florida is a death sentence state. Thank you, Gov. Charlie Crist
I guess you are right Catherine. I don’t think she would want the death penalty either.
Eileen Warnos there was a movie made about her life. Charlene Theron won best actress for the role. Ted Bundy also was injected here.
When that happens, we should all try to meet at a pub close by the court house and pop bottles of bubbly when the verdict is read, what do you thinkkk?
oh good, so there is a chance if she get’s the chair – she will fry
however, if that is the case i wouldn’t want them to fry her until she tells where caylee is – it’s kinda a double-edge-sword
It really is… but I think they’re close (or I truly hope) they’re close to making a discovery!
No frying in Florida. Lethal injection.
From the evidence we have seen (and am sure it is not all of it) it is much more than they had on Scott Peterson, I think. Granted they finally found the bodies but his car was squeeky clean and so was his house I believe. His behavior after the murder did him in I think.
So I have high hopes for a quilty verdict in a homicide trial.
BTW, scratching my head what doing the polka with Kris means.
i up for the pub idea! we could all go to the club she hanged out at and party it up with her gang
It really does blow my mind that she can be so concerned with fashion to accessorize, wear make-up, and knot her shirt up like that…
Even do her hair and flat iron it!!! really, most would be train wrecks, gaunt, eyes red from weeping…
Welcome back, Snookers, nice to see you..
oops sorry, i thought i read the chair – it was probably and old 1800’s article….hehe
Snookers,
???
Twenty two years old, and your life is over. I wonder if she thinks she going to beat the evidence. BB lost his last murder case a few months ago. Maybe she should hire the Count.
Oh, if an inmate prefers the chair over injection in ca, I think they can have it… not sure..
well amy, back to the movie theory, it playing in her head, like i said she’s the star of the movie
Amy,
I’m pretty sure we only have lethal injection on our menu.
Oh for sure, my first thought this afternoon watching her “strut” into the jail house, was, wow, what confidence. The yellow cord, and the whole entrance, media lined and all was for her… pretty special!
Or so she thought?
Oh yeah, and chewing that wad of gum. I just want to slap her right across her face.
i think we talked about this last night, she has learned long ago that if she bat’s her eyes she can have anything, i mean she walked with the police to her office and then two feet in front of the door she stopped them – her plan didn’t go as well as she hoped…. : (
Cat, lethal injection will do too!
There was on paticular protester that had something to say last night that I thought was right on… she was there with a sign to let the whole world know, don’t donate to her defense fun”.. make sense to me..
i really think that, she thinks, she is getting away with it!
smiles at the camera
no emotion
high-fives the bro
not one tear shed
she thinks she is getting away with murder!
easy, I know… that was so obnoxious that she did that to detectives.. took them literally down a dead end..
i don’t know what our state has for death and i don’t want to know
i’m a firm believer of ‘an eye for an eye’
Well she gets to play the star at the two trials. After that oblivion, public will forget her real fast. Not even one curtain call for good performance/acting.
easy,
Why would she do that?
I mean really what was the purpose of taking the police to Universal. What was she thinkng?
I think my state, california, were to off some of their members of the death row club, they would see a drop in violent crimes..
and the excuse she gave them. she was hoping to talk with employees or the guard, she doesn’t know what else to do…..well maybe just tell what you did for a start
something doesn’t seem right with that, how would anyone know how to send them on a wild goose chase, or be as calm as she was during the interviews – she has never once address the public for their help, that seems odd, even that mom who drowned those boys went on tv, granted she lied and said someone took them or whatever, but even she made a public appearance
Amy,
I agree. The protester that had a sign that read “Please do not donate to the Anthony’s Defense Fund” Justice for Caylee
could someone be telling her what to do? or did she already see a case happen like this? i can help but think that she read a book or saw a movie and is getting these ideas
we have all told a lie at one point in our lives – right? but this one, she has really taken it to a new level
easy,
Did she say she thought she could hand out flyers of Caylee to security. There were no flyers at that time.
a lot of what she has done has been planed out, the apartment, the nanny, the job, saying specifically “31” days, the note in park..
how many days did she have between the time it happened to the interviews?
how many days did she have to plan all of this?
easy,
I read a lot of books, and I have never read anything that resembles this case.
I think she borrowed a little of O.J. DENY, DENY, DENY, and hope she get a bunch of horny men on the jury.
Then she borrowed a little from Drew Peterson. No Body, No Crime. No Court Case. Drew is still walking around looking for wife #5
i think so (about handing out flyers), buy in every missing child case the mom/dad always makes an appearance on tv regardless if they were a ‘person of interest’
in this case only the grandmomster and grandpopster and uncle fester(pus) made a tv apperance…hum?
drew peterson? is that the same as scott peterson?
yea i agree, they are both recent cases, oh yea and don’t forget the mom who drowned the boys, didn’t she say someone kidnapped them?
easy,
She left the Ant’s house on June 16th at 12:50 P:M: as per G.
She was interviewed on July 16th. So, that is 30 days, since June has 30 days.
Casey Anthony was arrested Monday on theft charges unrelated to an ongoing investigation into the disappearance of the toddler, who the mother in July told authorities was missing.
Casey Anthony, 22, has been in and out of jail since that time.
Authorities have implicated the mother in Caylee’s disappearance, saying evidence shows the girl is dead and the body was in Anthony’s trunk. However, they have not filed criminal charges to try that case in court.
Click here to find out more!
Instead, prosecutors have charged Anthony with child neglect, making false statements and 10 counts relating to alleged check theft from a friend.
easy,
We have Scott Peterson, Drew Peterson, and Susan Smith.
hi is this where everyone moved to, just heard the great news the witch is back n jail, hope the hell she stay’s there this time, who is the mark guy they are talking about?
Hi flowerchild
flower,
Some marine from CA.
they are stacking the charges up against her, but do say they are ‘unrelated’ to the ongoing investigation into the disappearance of caylee
so when they do make the final charge, she will have a prior conviction in child neglect which will help in a conviction of murder
i think she’s up against a rock and a hard place right now, that’s why she turned herself in today
when did the marine show up in all this?
easygoing ,
So many of her lies were/are so easy to debunk.
To me, if you tell a lie, you at least make it somewhat difficult to be caught. She act likes she does not care one bit if she is caught. Showing no embarrassment when caught Just moves right on to the next lie, to cover the preceding lie. It looks like she just lives one day at a time and never thinks about tomorrow..What a weird creature.
How can she keep track of not contradicting herself one day/one week later. It is easy to remember the truth but much harder to remember multiple lies and making sure you donot slip up.
in between 6/16 and 7/16 she was out partying and playing house and going on shopping sprees – yea that would be enough time to think of the plan
just got home from work and watched nancy, is she going for bail again they need to just keep her in there,and can they make those charges stick
I say keep the charges coming, Ricardo is missing a credit card also. If she did take it when she was staying with him, he said she made small purchases because he just paid the bill because nothing looked odd. He is looking into the charges along with the police. So, there maybe more charges coming. All this info was in the 400 page doc. that was released.
cj said,in September 15th, 2008 at 11:58 pm
Hi All,
I haven’t been reading yet other than to see what blog you are all in for now anyway, till we move again..
I watched NG and the thing I hoped a caller to ask would have been;
WHATEVER became of the bones and clothing found when Equusearch left, I havent heard..
AND one caller asked but got no response to this;
Why didn’t anyone answer the one callers question of “Why not keep M in jail for now over the charges she is currently charged with till they get the murder case ready to go, then she will already be there”.. and caller suggested she stay in with the regular inmates not to herself, then she might be more apt to talk..
I also noticed on NG tonight the therapist she spoke with said what I said last night, that M will and BB will no doubt go for some insanity plea…
she was to cool and calm on those audios,if i was aparent of a missing child i would be so upset i couldn’t hardly talk, she was to cold and matter of fact
Greta is having something on about the monster. I will let you know what is being said about the case. It’s on Fox EST now
embarrassment goes along with remorse and we know she does not have any of that
she did show hesitation when they questioned about the car running out of gas, was it before or after — don’t think that was in her original plan
she only has specific lies relating to caylee, when asked about the call she received from her, they continued to question more about what they talked about or the feeling she got, this questioned was not in her original plan
I’m here. Two laptops are playing dead and I am on a slow-as-molasses desktop, so I might just read.
ej,
Quiet on the UCF bones and clothing. The last I heard that were still being tested. Nothing released, that could mean something.
easy,
Very good point. She didn’t expect those questions, so she didn’t have the answers rehearsed.
you know why doesn’t she just give up the little game she is playing,she could just get life in prison the more she goes on with this they will seek the death penalty, why does she keep doing this?
I think monster stating that she received a call from Caylee on the 15th of July, was the most stupidest lie of all. So easy to check.
yeah would like to know the results of the bones found like what ten days ago or more, would have been simple to just say they were not human that would have been the end of it..
Catherine,
so what is greta talking about right now on her show?
I’m just thinking as a mother, if monster was my daughter I would tell her to come clean. Don’t they want Caylee’s remains brought home?
i think the police are keeping alot of evidence to them selves until the bones and clothes testing is done,then they can make a better case
i don’t think putting her in general public would do any good, the inmates see the new just like we do, or the guards will tell inmates what she is in for, and those inmates won’t let her have a chance to speak they will just shank her first chance they get (watched too much oz)
both sides want to keep her safe, just in case she tells where the body is or confesses
She is interviewing Todd Palin at the moment.
so the torso found earlier today was not a childs, is that right?
if the clothes match with what caylle was wearing, easy enough to link them,just doing dna testing on them, the bones would be alot harder and require more testing.
I think they should put her in gen. pop. forjust 5 minutes. The inmates wouldn’t need weapons just a few fists to her face should do it.
agree with flowerchild, i think there is a lot out there we the public (or the anthony’s for that matter) don’t know what they have.
they will keep a tight lip on any ‘good’ evidence until the trial
but i do think it was odd the search was called off due to bad weather, they stated they would return when ground dries, it’s been dry for a week or so. and if the moved over to tx to help, they still could have returned to fl to search until needed in tx
a torso was found today, where
correct, i believe they said it was a young adult. but then did hear that the grandparents of momster lived somewhere up that way
Casey’s make believe friend (Juliette Lewis) is actually an actress. Juliette does an interview on utube called (juliette lewis close to her character) about a movie called Aurora Borealis (Kate). I think Casey was fixated with Juliette’s character (Kate) and wanted to live the life she had. It’s kinda creepy knowing what we know of the lifestyle casey REALLY wanted to live! Check out the video. I posted the website once but don’t know where my post went????
my theory is that M was using chloroform to sedate lil Caylee and one night she gave her too much, then M freaked.. so an addident in a ‘way’ but not one you would want to report calling 911 about, what on earth would you say,
i gave my child too much chloroform…
the other thing is the DNA from the hair of the trunk, black ring meaning dead, so ruled our M, leaving it to be Caylee’s, but according to the DNA it would indicate Lee is the daddy. And maybe C and Lee and M never told G it was ‘their’ child… another sad twist to this whole case.
tim said he would stay,he does not seem like a man to give up,his own child layed dead for so long and he knows the heartbreak,i don’t think he gave up or the weather
MARION COUNTY, Fla. — A boater on Sunday discovered human remains near the Sharpes Ferry Bridge on the Ocklawaha River in Marion County.
The incident was reported at about 2:25 p.m. after the boater found partial remains on the water’s edge, about 300 yards north of the bridge, Marion County sheriff’s deputies said.
The identity and sex of the remains are unknown, and it’s not known if the remains are that of a child or an adult, deputies said.
cj,
The Ocala news said, it looked like a young adult. They could not determine the sex. They also found a small body part.Everything is at the police lab.
Catherine, so does that torso and other part indeed rule out Caylee or not?
i don’t think casey was giving caylee chloroform to sedate her,there was to much of it in the trunk,still think it was used to get rid of dna evidence or to clean with
easy,
The grandparents live in Mt.Dora. it is north of Orlando, but not as far north as Ocala.
yes i agree with that, momster had been putting caylee to sleep on more than one occasion, then wham the little one didn’t wake up. freaked out, put her in the trunk for a few days, smell started to get bad, ran to parents house to hide body – thought twice about that, then took body somewhere else.
intentional accident on 6/9 – 6/15 parents house – body had time to decompose to smell/fly stage
but someone laid the body on ground in back yard, i can’t seem to fit that in, but the dogs it a mark in backyard
Monday Morning Therapist had a really good theory last night on how she thought it all when down – if you have time go read the blogs there were a lot of good theories going around
It’s really sad because when in the water like that it bloats and COULD have looked like a young adult when in fact it could be a child’s torso, tears either way…
can anybody tell me why cindy would cover up the fact that casey was pregnant,in this day and time that is not to shocking, even palin was not ashamed to admit her daughter is, and she might be the new vp
catherine, then it does rule out that idea out
also i don’t think my dates are correct
cj
No they didn’t say that.
eg yeah i read what mmt theory is..
I disagree with how mmy thinks it happened but alot
of the other stuff like M moving Caylee about I think could have happened like mmt described..
Catherine said,in September 15th, 2008 at 11:59 pm
“easy,
We have Scott Peterson, Drew Peterson, and Susan Smith.”
Anyone remember Diane Downs? Ann Rule wrote a book about her and there was subsequently a movie made. “Small Sacrifices”
In 1983,she staged a carjacking and shot her 3 children and even gave herself a superficial wound in the arm. Two of the children lived.
She was dating a married man who didn’t like children, and she was determined to take him from his wife. So she made up an elaborate story of the carjacking and a man shooting them all.
She is in prison and will be up for parole next year. The 2 surviving children (one is crippled from the shot–the other lost her speech for some time) were adopted by the prosecutors. In court she acted like she was detached from the whole thing, smiling at times, wrting on p[aper, tapping her pencil to the music they played (that was the song in her tape player in the car that her daughter remembered) She showed no remorse whatsoever when her daughter was on the stand and prosecutors asked “Who shot you?” and the little girl said “Mommy”
(Diane was, like Susan, sexually molested/abused by her father/stepfather)
i thought it was the other way around, casey hid the pregnancy until last few months? i cold be wrong
casy was 18 when she got prego, had baby at 19 – 3 rs later 22, she might have been still in high school
Catherine, so they did not rule out Caylee w/ the torso they found and small body part?
I think Caylee died 6-16 probably died at the Ant’s house. Caylee was put in the sandbox, and then the playhouse. M.then buried her in the yard until she hatched a plan, then put her body in the trunk and drove around until she couldn’t stay the smell. She then buried her body ?
flowerchild and eg,
I have not read up on if M hid her pregnancy,
but yes in these ages it is not something we need to hide (Unless L and M wanted to hide it is their child), sigh.
there were a lot of good theories going around that night 🙂
it’s good to: i agree to disagree
Except not sure IF M ever actually buried Caylee in the ground, it was like she tried but the ground was too hard? I think mmt was talking about it last night in her theory.
I need to clarify, when I meant is M may not have buried Caylee in the ground at her yard, too many typos tonight!
i don’t think she buried her body, didn’t have the shovel long enough, and if she bought one at target, that would have come out by now, nothing bought on her shopping sprees have taken into play expect for the fact that it wasn’t her money to spend
moving it around from trunk to back yard, i just can’t see this person touching a decomposing body, one that would have a foul smell
did the dogs hit on both the sand box and the play area?
cj
right, they did not rule Caylee out.
Greta, said BB will bond M. early tomorrow morning. That’s about it on
M.
Catherine, yes Caylee most likely died on or around June 16th, she was last seen on Father’s Day (6/15) and C did the video of Caylee with her great gtandpa.
I think the explanation with the chorofoam may have been that initially it was used to sedate Caylee and later used to clean with, or it could have spilled in the trunk also..
i don’t believe caylee was conceived by either, it was a random guy she hooked up with,
that would make sense for cindy to hide the pregnancy if knowingly they didn’t know who the dad was
yes cindy did try to hide the fact read it somewhere in all the paperwork,she told people that casey was just gaining weight, i will try to find that again and give you the lnk
easy,
Yes, the sandbox, the playhouse, and the corner where the Ant’s had the storage trunk.
thanks Catherine for the info re greta’s show and the torso discovery..
eg, yeah the dogs hit on the area right next to the pool by the sandbox etc.. and the trunk of M car of course..
and i was curious why G had no comment to the tow guy about the reaking smell of a dead body when G left with the stinky car, yes an ex-cop and he had to smell it driving home, trunk smell goes into car when driving..
flower,
M. did not tell C. until she was 7 months preg. then she told her mother. She said, she wanted to put the baby up for adoption but, C said no.
ok i gotta get to bed, it was nice chatting with you all, we all have good ideas and good theories 🙂 we all agree to disagree
let’s keep up the good detective work!
my hope is they find caylees body for i do not believe the child is alive,just so she have a decent burial,it is so sad to picture her somewhere just lying there
i am going to bed to,maybe something will break in the case soon
cj,
You said a mouthful. G. wouldn’t incriminate his daughter with regard to the odor. But,he was a homicide cop he knew what decomposition smelled like.
goodnight all
Night,flower
egm, well how do they explain the DNA part, one part is like M and the other is too, they insinuate insest.. that there is no other explanation for who is the daddy? the only reason they knew it HAD to be Caylee is the black ring or else it could’ve been M’s but she is alive so…
Going to bed. Good Night all
Goodnight ya’ll and looks like its Catherine and I for now/
Still with us Gumshoe, anyone?
Just wanted to give you an update. More bones were found tonight in Ocala Park. The bones were exposed to the elements. The police took them to the police lab. These are not the same bones that the boater found
still here–had to run out for Mt. Dew–back now
okay still there gumshoe, whats your thoughts on all this?
Catherine—was that news on TV? (1:21a post)
gumshoe i think everyone else left but you and i..
I was sitting here just thinking about IF the Anthony’s ARE reading these blogs, or this one.. what I would want to say to THEM…
I felt intense sadness seeing Cindy fighting with the protestor the other night, this is so hard on her and George and Lee, REGARDLESS of what casey has done, she has ruined their lives and it’s heartbreaking.
cj, the DNA?
I have thought since Padilla said on NG that the world would be shocked “to find out what L, C, & C had known since Wed when DNA results were released” that the DNA proved the father of Caylee is a relative. Otherwise they could have known whose hair–Casey’s or Caylee’s–
Casey’s hair would have been a makeup of George and Cindy—Caylee’s would have been a makeup of ‘Casey and unknown’. But L, G, C all had their DNA taken early on.
I think Caylee’s hair came back ‘Casey and family member’, same as Casey’s hair.
OUR PRAYERS go out to ALL the Victims of this case, especially sweet little Caylee~
Good night, All. See ya back here tomorrow.
oh you are still here or not gumshoe, lol
yeah so the DNA points to Lee then or??
nite everybody!
tty tomorrow.
if you are signing off so will i, will wait and see before i do gumshoe.
cj, my computer is running so slow it’s useless to stay and try to post—I’m gonna sign off and clean it out so it will run faster—
I’ll catch you all tomorrow–k?
Ok goodnight gumshoe, take care.
George or Lee—don’t know which–a lot of narcisstic and sociopaths have sexual abuse by a family member in their background–A LOT of them
Hi, Jan…
I’ve been following your analyses of this case from the beginning. As always, you’re right on the money.
Would be honored if you would stop by and say hi to my new forum, where we are following this case.
http://www.basementdwellers.proboards.com
The FBI profiler on 20/20 said Casey wasn’t crazy but that she invents a new life for herself every day.
I wonder if Casey makes sure she looks like she’s just come out of hair and makeup for a photo shoot because she imagines she is going clubbing with Britney Spears and Paris Hilton or she’s a contestant on America’s Next Top Model.
The FBI profiler also said Casey is typical of criminals. She will lie as long as it benefits her. Telling what she did to Caylee and where the body is would not benefit her so she won’t talk. She’s hoping without a body they won’t be able to give her the death penalty.
I hope the state of Florida finds a way to get her convicted of first degree murder because we need justice for Caylee.
Now we have the Battle of the Grandmothers!
Remember little 12 year old Dakota Skii who ended up hospitalized for stress related illness thanks to the Caylee Anthony case – and who monster emailed and wrote notes to?
Well grandma Cindy has continued to write and text Dakota (and presumably Dakota has responded) so Dakota’s grandma tried to get a restraining order to stop C from communicating with the girl. Unfortunately it was denied.
i don’t think they found Caylee. All those bones and searches turned up nothing, the reason I say this is that Detectives are leaving Florida to talk to some witness outside the state of Florida for the possible whereabouts of Caylee. If they had found anything in the searches then they wouldn’t be going out of state to look.
If you put everything else aside for a minute and just consider that in the 911 call monster said her daughter had been missing for 31 days. And then the next day – all day – being questioned by cops she stuck to saying she had not seen her daughter since June 9, dropped her daughter off on June 9 etc. Then all of a sudden Cindy remembers father’s day and it turns into June 15 and then George said he saw them June 16.
Who in the heck, what kind of mother, FORGETS what day she “misplaced” her child?????
Most of us spend more time and are more accurate about when we lost a sweater someplace!
Hi, Dakdude3! I’m confused about why investigators are going out of state! The reports I read said they were going to CA to interview Padilla’s team about that story she told Robert Dick about being in Blanchard Park when the child was taken. But the way the report was written it sort of seemed like they were following clues and doing other sorts of investigation. I just don’t know.
Me either but it leads me to believe that they didn’t find anything conclusive in the searches, because if they did they wouldn’t need to talk to Padilla. I also wonder if they are just going to California or if there are other leads they are following.
I cannot believe she is strutting around with a rosary bouncing off her boobs. This woman (sorry) monster knows no bounds whatsoever. She is defiant and smug!
I know what you mean. What I’ve been concerned about is even if they found some remains somewhere how would they be able to definitely tie HER to them, you know? Defense will say Zanny did it.
Also they may just want to have evidence that she told different stories at different times including different dates, locations, participants, etc. The more lies they can pin on her the better.
And it really irks me that BoBo and the public relations firm are essentially accusing the police of harrassing and intimidating her by charging her with the economic crimes. Why shouldn’t she be charged? It’s pretty darned clear that she committed 13 felonies (or whatever) so why shouldn’t she be charged? With such clear evidence anyone would be charged for that. Should Amy and BOA have no recourse to the damage done to them?
And for all we know she did buy something with the money she stole that ties in with the missing child and they want those facts nailed down so they can be brought into the neglect/murder case when needed.
i was watching monsters court app/ the prosecutor wanted the judge to stop the monster from using her own checks an debit card i wonder who she would of ripped off this time to even have any money. makes you wonder did she cash in with the home videos
I think it’s wesh.com that is going to have an interview with Zenaida Gonzales tonight about how this has changed her life. Ridiculous waste of time and possibly detrimental to the case against monster.
This Zenaida seems to be the only Zenaida Gonzales that the police located and spoke with. The problem is that there are LOTS of Zenaida Gonzales in various states. And that’s what the Ants have been screaming about for a long time. I’m sure they’ll say this one isn’t THE one and that the cops never tried to find the right one.
On the audio tapes the cops said they’d run the name thru DAVID. I think that’s a driver’s license data base. Does anyone know if that is limited to Florida? Or is it national? That’s part of the problem with this case. Monster covered that by saying that Zenaida doesn’t drive. So of course she’s not going to be on any state’s data base.
i hope you guys remember me i left for a while reading those 400 docs not tring to intrude i enjoy this blog.
Concerned about Caylee, Unfortunately, I missed the 20/20 segment when the FBI profiler said Casey wasn’t crazy but that she invents a new life for herself every day.
This is what I read about Sociopaths in relation to them living for the present:
Psychopaths / Sociopaths, rarely are able to keep jobs for any length of time. They need constant change and they live for the moment, forgetting the past, and not planning the future, not thinking ahead what consequences their actions will have. They want immediate rewards and gratification.
Sharon I wondered about that request from prosecutors too. What’s the point? If they are HER checks and cc’s then let her use them and see what she buys! Maybe incriminating stuff or something they could use against her!
And if they are not her checks and cc’s then fine – again, let her use them and rack up some MORE economic charges.
What was the point of that? I don’t see it.
kimcon22000 said,in September 16th, 2008 at 9:32 am Monday Morning Therapist said,in September 15th, 2008 at 5:30 pm Another interesting fact that I found:
Sociopath’s criminal behavior is shaped by social forces and is the result of a dysfunctional environment.
This is very true.
There is one additional element and that is the gene or hereditary component – this is biological. The environment (social forces mentioned above) have to trigger the gene (biological component mentioned in this paragraph). Hence, it is true that both the environment and your genetic structure trigger your behaviors and thinking.
Let’s say your parents are both musically inclined. You are on a cruiseship as a child, it sinks, and you’re stranded on a deserted island (alone). You may have the genetic code of being musically inclined; but the environment will never trigger that from you. Because they’re no musical instruments on the island and no person there to encourage you.
Sorry too long-bottom line is it takes your genetic makeup and the environment together to make you who you are. Nature and nurture. That’ll be $150 🙂
kimcon, Enjoyed your post! Thank you so much for explaining that to us, now I fully understand how it works. Before, I only understood the first part of it.
And your comment wasn’t too long, it needed to be that way in order for us to understand exactly how the cycle works. Thanks again and…please don’t ever leave this blog!
“Oh… and the $150.00 is in the mail.:)
Hi Sharon,
I remember you, you were asking for the link.
I guess because of the bounced BOA check which can happen even if on your own checks , the judge might have said that.
Hi all…new here and have been spending time reading all your posts (and boy are there a lot). I have a daughter who had borderline personality disorder and every time I see Monster (as you guys call her) I can’t help but see the same tendencies of my daughter. If that’s the case, they will never get out of her what she did or where that baby is. My experience with BPD is that they have no guilt, no conscience, they always have to be the center of attention and if they are not…Look Out! I’m no doctor, but the similarites between this monster and my daughter are scary. I’m lucky my daughter is in therapy, on medication and has no children.
I just keep praying for that little baby…
Thanks
I would think that Monster would readily testify, regardless if true or not, that she was sexually abused as a child in order to get a lighter sentence and/or sympathy. Fits her personality.
🙂
snookers, Right!
I would not be at all surprised if that is part of what monster and BoBo are cooking up as part of her defense (along with other potential BS). In fact even after all the support her parents are giving her I would not be at all surprised if she totally trashed them in her own defense. May even blame them for the whole thing!
starryny,
I wish you strength with your daughter. You probably also can identy with Cindy then.
I guess all of us who have daughters early teens thru early twenties have taken a closer look at their behavior since this case happened. My 22 year old daughter is very jealous but she has had the same boyfriend for 4 years, loves animals, and was three years in her previous job. Guess she is fairly normal.
In trying to understand the monster… I came across this about sociopaths:
“Contemptuous of those who seek to understand them.”
I guess that might explain the jailhouse call that Casey had with her mom. When her mom starting asking too many questions regarding her being in jail because of her lies, in a very annoyed voice, the monster cut her mom off and said something like… “Get Tony’s number, I don’t want to talk to you anymore.” Hmmmmm
starryNY… welcome to this blog. Thanks for sharing your story about your daughter. I’m glad to hear that your daughter got professional help! I hope all is well!
Sharon… welcome back!
snookers –
I’ve had issues with my daughter since she was 11, she is now 18. I love her very much, but it’s easy to see something threatening in the way she reactes and treats people. I learned along time ago that in her eyes were are all disposable when is is done with us. Like tissue. She can be very very sweet and kind, but theres generally some sort of need she needs fulfilled. Monster seems the same, that smile kills me everytime I see it. Because it’s there… Look at me, See me, ONLY ME! If she tells…then no cares what she has to say anymore so she won’t speak. So yes in a way I can understand Cindy’s reation in many ways… but at the same time, if this is my grandchild we are talking about… time to speak up and get closure for your grandchild and help/therapy/permanent lockdown for your daughter. They are not helping their own cause. Then again it’s not me.
Thanks MMT 🙂
starryNY,
Is there any chance/way that your daughter will change slightly for the better as she gets older through therapy/aging.
snookers –
The doctors tell me she could change in/by her 30’s possibly with continuous help, but there is no guarantee. We just deal with it day by day.
I can’t deciede if the parents are oblivious to her mental health issues or if they are just circling the wagons because she is their daughter.. no matter what they certainly have dug an even bigger whole by making enemies with the police. Quit bailing her out, leave her jail and eventually maybe once she receives very little attention she’ll get sick of being there, get angry and spill somthing. However I can’t imagine she’s take the blame, as it was said earlier, she’ll probably blame everyone else around her.
Hi all. I never get to read all of the posts here, because I run out of time. But did anyone notice that even the missing Caylee T-shirt that Casey wears isn’t about Caylee? She obviously wishes she didn’t have to wear it cause it ain’t very sexy…so she rolls up the sleeves, ties it in the back to show her butt, and chews on that piece of gum. Can’t the shirt even be about Caylee and not Casey’s appearance???????
I also thought it funny the expert said she was “concerned because she thought she heard deception in Casey’s voice.” My answer to her: Ya think?
I think Casey deliberately said the last time she saw Caylee was June 9 because she doesn’t want the investigators to know the correct timeline to trace her steps.
Cindy at first was going along with that date until either she remembered or the cops knew that the video of Caylee with her great grandfather was taken on Father’s Day June 15. That’s the day the grandmother told Cindy Casey had cleaned out the bank account that was designated for her grandfather’s assisted living. Cindy paid it back to her mother and then screamed at Casey over it and Casey left with Caylee on June 16. George was the last person to see Caylee leave with Casey on the morning of June 16.
On the interrogation with the investigators tapes, she stressed the date of June 9 and that Zenaida Gonzalez was the last person with her daughter. This was clearly setting up the “Some other dude did it” defense that is common with criminals.
The investigators don’t have to look up every Zenaida Gonzalez because they know Casey made up a nanny named Zenaida Gonzalez using a common Hispanic name. They interviewed the one Zenaida Gonzalez because she had once applied for an apartment at Sawgrass Apartments where Casey claimed she dropped off Caylee. Both Casey and that Zenaida denied knowing each other.
The investigators found out that everything Casey had said about Zenaida the nanny was a lie. No Zenaida ever lived in any building she told them about. No Zenaida ever worked for Universal Studios. No Zenaida ever had any roommates that lived in a house she pointed out. None of her friends or family met Zenaida. She also made up the name of the person who introduced her to Zenaida.
Pathological liars make up names of people, places and events that never happen. The police can’t waste their time interviewing every Zenaida or bust every Hispanic person who looks like the composite I’m sure was drawn with her bogus description of this fictional nanny.
starryNY… You should be very proud of yourself for recognizing that your daughter needed help at a very young age. I don’t think there is a family in the world who doesn’t carry something or another on their shoulders. But, we also know that life holds more wonderful days than not.
Do you remember Cindy mentioning to someone that her daughter was a sociopath? Do you think that hints at the fact that she may, at one time, had Casey in therapy? I just thought that would be a strange for Cindy to say out of the blue. What’s your opinion on that? It’s just so sad that Caylee couldn’t have been protected in some way.
There were also no telephone calls to or from a Zenaida Gonzalez in Casey’s cell phone records and no emails or text messages from a Zenaida Gonzalez in her computer as she claimed there was. That’s all the investigating they had to prove that Casey did not have a nanny named Zenaida Gonzalez.
MMT, two questions…do you know when Cindy called Casey a sociopath? Where is that info? And secondly, did you say that the guy Casey said introduced her to Zenaida didn’t exist?
I thought I heard last night Padilla said that the other person Casey mentioned was a movie star in a show called “Killer…something er other.” I can’t remember her name.
It’s hard to believe that anyone could have lived a life as long as she has while telling so many outrageous lies. It is shocking. She tells them so boldly too. I just can’ understand it. But I learned with Susan Smith, that some people can never be understood. I tried really hard to imagine what scenario or circumstance would make anyone do what she did. I never could. There are people out there who die saving others. Yet the Casey/Susan types could never understand that either.
Concerned about Caylee,
After Casey’s originally statement to the police with that June 9th date as missing date, she did not talk to them anymore only thru BB. George and Cindy did revise those dates. It is easier to remember a specific day as opposed to a calendar date. They just looked at the calendar and pick the wrong week or went by Casey’s date. In any event Casey also mentioned that 31 days missing which contradict the June 9th date since the interview was on July 16th.
And Cindy KNOWS what a liar and thief Casey is, yet refuses to admit that maybe she is lying about this too. That’s what makes me angry with Cindy. She knows. Yet she continues to enable her to get away with the biggest lie she ever told. If she let her stay in jail, she might crack.
Whatever happened to the story that if Casey was let out of jail they’d be able to find Caylee?
And why does Cindy keep saying “arresting her was a mistake” when she, herself was the one who originally WANTED her arrested? Is the whole family insane?
I think Casey is about to be released again any minute.
Uh oh Jose is walking into the releasing office.
Casey and her attorney will have to prove that Casey did have a nanny named Zenaida if their defense is the nanny did it.
The prosecution has the smell of a dead body in Casey Anthony’s car and the backyard of the Anthony home. That tells them Casey did it, not the nanny, whom they find no trace of.
Casey’s lies about the nanny also indicate Casey killed Caylee and is trying to blame it on a fictional person who has a commom Hispanic name whom she knows the cops will never find.
I think Dianne Downs and Susan Smith also tried to blame the killing of their children on a fictional masked man. That’s what criminals do.
Pluto,
One of casey’s friends said that Cindy called her a sociopath. In believee it was in the 400p thingy. However, when a mother gets real mad at one of her children, it is not that unusual to use a word like sociopath, psycho, insane, mooch, parasite etc in a fit of anger IMO.
Thank you, Concerned about Caylee. That makes me feel better about what I was thinking the defense might use – and in fact what Cindy was/is saying about all the “other” Zenaidas in the world.
Pluto, it was Juliette Lewis who was in that movie. And I think it was Ryan Pasley, a friend of monsters from grade school (but who had moved away then but stayed in touch over the years) who Cindy called and told she was a sociopath and liar.
And you asked, “Whatever happened to the story that if Casey was let out of jail they’d be able to find Caylee?” Leonard Padilla disproved that one by giving her the chance when he first bailed her out.
MMT –
I can’t imagine that all the issues that have come to light with casey just happened out of the blue. She has some pretty intense issues even if you remove what’s going on with with Caylee. You don’t pick the word “sociopath” out of the air either when discribing your child unless you know something about it. So yes maybe she’s had these issues for years and they have just come to a head. You cannot be blind to it even if it’s your child, you have to be a resonsible parent and deal with it. Ignoring it certainly hasn’t helped. Cindy didn’t want to take custody of Caylee for no good reason.
Hi pluto! I think I read that in the 400 page discovery doc. If I remember correctly, it was after 6/16 sometime. She told a long time male friend of Casey to stay away from Casey because she’s a sociopath.
The guy who “supposedly” introduced her to Zenaida, I can’t remember his name..(left Universal2002) plus I get him confused with another guy she went to high school with the monster and ran in to her at a restaurant during the 31 days. I’m not sure if the guys had the same or similar names, or why I keep confusing those two. I should go back and read the doc because when I was reading it, I was getting interrupted with phone calls.
The name of the movie star was Juliette Lewis, from the movie “Natural Born Killers”
hey maybe there going to talk to padilla that way the media wont leak any new evidence he may know more than what he has told ng.maybe sounds far fetched but this whole thing is full of lies sex and video.lol. the cops said that 2 more of thereown came forward and admitted having sex with monster.maybe her real job was working on obt lol. obt is a short name here in fla for orange blossom trail where all the working girls hang out if you know what i mean.
Also because Cindy is an RN , words like sociopath are more common to here, besides Cindy does have a temper , judging by the interaction with those protesters in front of her house.
Concerned about Caylee,
I really think the reason why Casey sticks to the date of the 9th is the fact that this is the date she moved out of her parents house and went to live with Amy, Ricardo and J.P. I think this is when the argument about stealing her grandfather’s money happened, and why Casey moved out.
Did Casey start lying to her friends then, saying Caylee was with the Nanny to explain away how she was spending every night with them (Amy, J.P. and Ricardo) and Caylee wasn’t there?
I wonder if anyone can confirm with Amy H. if Caylee slept at her place at any point from June 9th to the 15th?
Imagine that Casey started using the chloroform on the baby that week, putting her to sleep in the trunk so she could hang out with her friends.
Caylee goes with Cindy (wonder how that was arranged, and if Casey went) on Father’s Day, and maybe Caylee says something that strikes Cindy as odd. I am SURE Cindy was asking Caylee questions about how she was and where she was staying. She hadn’t seen her granddaughter at that point for a whole week. Neighbors say they heard very loud fighting from the Anthony home on that Sunday. I think the argument may have been Cindy confronting Casey about something Caylee may have said regarding where they were “sleeping”. Casey and Caylee spend that last night there, leave on the 16th, and Caylee is never seen again.
This poor little baby, Caylee. All this time (1 + years?) that her mother was lying about going to work every day, where were they going?? Was Casey hooking up with random guys and leaving her daughter alone somewhere? or drugging her so she would sleep through it?
Casey makes me ill. Any person who lost their baby through kidnapping, or a genuine accident that they are too afraid to tell anyone about, would absolutely be coming apart at the seams with grief and sadness and worry and guilt. They would be absolutely distraught, desperate. I feel so bad for Caylee. This poor little girl. her “mother” saw her as a posession, an accesory, one she got tired of.
Casey is a monster. She has time to plan her appearance very carefully. Tied shirts to the back and side, bracelets and necklaces, sunglasses, full make-up, hair done, chewing gum, hanging out at her attorney’s office day after day.
I have never seen such brazen evil, so bold.
I hope Caylee is found soon, witt irrefutable evidence as to what happened and who is to blame so NO ONE in that family can continue to make up these crazy stories. They are all criminals. Asking for money, donations…asking people to care and invest emotiionally, take time away from their families to search, all the while knowing the truth. I am completey disgusted.
I have complete confidence that the investigators will build a good case for murder against Casey because it is clear to see that in their interviews they had her number.
I remember the investigator on the tape saying that the only true thing Casey told them was that she hadn’t seen her daughter in awhile. He even knew she was lying about the date she last saw Caylee and all of the people, places and events she told them about.
I find it fascinating that she makes up friends, co-workers and a nanny who all know about Caylee’s disappearance and doesn’t tell her real friends, lovers and family that Caylee is missing.
That alone tells me Casey killed Caylee and doesn’t want anybody to know about it.
Hi Everybody,
haven’t read all, but want to reply to a few I have read.
kimcon, put my bill on my tab, please. 🙂 Thanks for sharing your research.
starryNY, God bless you! My prayers for daily strength are with you.
mytwocents,
maybe they are going to CA for 2 reasons: to interview Padilla, and to interview Mark Hawkins, (the marine stationed in CA that she told online that she wanted to come to CA–had something to tell him if she could get drunk enough) and take his computer into evidence.
Just a thought.
The monster has been released.
Could be snookers, I imagine I might react the same way, but then again I would have left her in jail after all the lies. Cindy either wants to beleive her daughter so badly she’s willing to destroy her entime family or she’s so fearful of the truth she can’t face it.
One of the local tv stations has interviewed Zenaida again.
beyondfrustrated,
your theory is believeable (June 9/June 15 discrepancy)
Per Casey. The guy that introduced her to Zenaida was Jeffrey Hopkins. Left universal some 9 mos ago.
Actual a Jeffrey Hopkins was fired from Universal in 2002. Again another half truth/half lie by Casey.
starryNY, you’re so right and maybe if Cindy had acted on getting custody of Caylee sooner, this would not have happened.
I shouldn’t really say that though because if this comes down to C&G finally realizing that Casey did kill Caylee then I’m sure Casey will try to put full blame on C&G and make them feel guilty. But, that’s not the case… Casey did this horrible thing all on her own. I do believe that C&G loved both Casey and Caylee and gave them all they could and probably gave Casey even more than they should have. Casey is more than just self-centered… she’s a full blown dangerous malignant sociopath / psychopath.
MMT,
Yes, there was an interview with a Jeffrey Hopkins II(highschool buddy) in the 400p document. Do you remember II also said that Casey made a call to his parents out of the blue?.
Frustrated ,
From recall, not absoluutely sure, Casey with Caylee spent the night at Amy’/ricardo place on June 9th per Ricardo Morales interview with police.
Starry, I don’t think either Cindy or George can stand to face the truth that their beloved granddaughter is dead. They raised her for almost three years as if she was their daughter.
George broke my heart when he told 20/20 how Caylee said her name and that she called the dog Pay Pay. He said that’s what he missed since she was gone. That’s why he shouted, “Shut up,Shut up, Shut up” when a reporter said the cops believed Caylee was dead.
Cindy was totally hysterical on 911 tapes when she said Casey had admitted the babysitter stole her granddaughter and said “I have to find her.” What got me was that Cindy automatically believed Casey after saying in her MySpace page that Casey had lied all the time and telling one of her friends Casey was a sociopath.
I thought it also interesting that Cindy sounded upset also when she told the 911 operator, “Something is wrong. I just found my car and it smells like there has been a dead body in the damn car.” However, a few days later when the reporter asked her about the smell, she was upbeat and cheerful saying it was just an old box of pizza they left in the heat and the smell was terrible.
Come on now, Cindy is a registered nurse and her husband is a former homicide detective. They both know what a dead body smells like. But knowing in the back of their mind that dead body could be their granddaughter, they don’t want to go there.
I truly believe Cindy and George will have a nervous breakdown if Caylee’s body is ever found. Casey won’t even shed a tear. She’ll just claim Zenaida did it, not her.
starryNY, I totally believe what you said, in your September 16th, 2008 at 12:21 pm regarding:
“Cindy either wants to believe her daughter so badly she’s willing to destroy her entire family or she’s so fearful of the truth she can’t face it.”
I know it would be difficult to accept a grandchild’s death, let alone to believe that your child took her own daughter’s life.
I know too, that Casey will not admit it unless, like everyone says, something benefits her… such as being saved from the death penalty. If they have enough evidence, I’m sure that plea bargain will be laid on the table and Beaz will have to present it to his client.
in reading the 400 pgs monster uses 3 names for zanieda first middle last.but zenieda herself only says her first and lastname. is the 3 name made up by monster?
I also think that as Caylee became more proficient in spoken language , Casey felt forced to do away with her.
Sharon, Casey made up the nanny’s name. This Zenaida Gonzalez they are interviewing is not her nanny.
snookers, yes… I do remember that she called
Jeffrey Hopkins parents and even he thought that was strange.
Thanks for reminding me what his name was.. I was going crazy trying to think of it.
I don’t even know why they would want to interview this zenaida again.
snookers WOW.. very INTERESTING thought. I bet you’re right that “As Caylee became more proficient in spoken language , Casey felt forced to do away with her.”
You ARE good!
Morning, everyone!
You can she’s getting more ticked off than any other emotion… I suppose, she must have thought this punishment is too harsh or something…
She should have thought about the consequences before stealing money/checks/ID
Hey Amy!
Snookers! That’s right! All little Caylee had to do one day soon (if she hadn’t already) is pipe up and say “Who’s Zanny?”
And also it’s clear that the only way out of that house for monster was to snag a man. She had no education and no job and no interest in either. And snagging a guy is not easy especially with a child in tow. She and Caylee slept in the same bed with 2nd to last boyfriend, Ricardo Morales. That “relationship” didn’t get serious so maybe monster decided to lose the one thing she could blame for ruining her chances with a guy. Little Caylee.
Beyondfrustrated: “I have never seen such brazen evil, so bold.” I totally agree.
Thanks for the info MMT and M2C. I’m still trying to piece it together. I still am just freaking out about where little Caylee was staying all this time when she was apparently nowhere.
Snookers, you said, “it is not that unusual to use a word like sociopath, psycho, insane, mooch, parasite etc in a fit of anger IMO.” I have to disagree with this. I have never and would never call any of my children any of these names. It would be terrible verbal abuse to do so.
I just have to say it: I hate Jose Baez. That smirk on his face…is it glued on or what? He is as evil as Casey IMO.
I would like to see the Zenaida Gonzalez interview. I would be horrified if investigators showed up on my doorstep asking me about a missing child after the mother used my name as a nanny that kidnapped her child.
This Zenaida Gonzalez was under suspicion before she was cleared because she did fill out an application for that apartment Casey named on June 17. That is the time frame between when investigators believe Casey killed Caylee and buried her body.
This Zenaida Gonzalez denied knowing Caylee or Casey and Casey looked at Zenaida’s photograph and said she didn’t know her.
Amy lived in Sawgrass Apartments so Casey may have been inquiring about renting the apartment using a stolen check from Amy or her grandmother and saw Zenaida’s application. The name might have stuck in her mind so she used it as her fictional nanny in her coverup story.
Sorry – work was calling.
Absolutely I can understand not wanting something to be what it is. Of course no one wants to see that baby hurt or dead… which is exactly the time you stand up to it and for her. They are strong enough to clash physically with strangers but not with their own daughter? It’s frustrating to me.
And yes…good call snookers on the speaking thing. Once they start talking she couldnt’ get away with anything.
Cindy is the only one who said Casey called the nanny Zanny. We all know Cindy lies and covers up for Casey.
Amy, her boyfriends, past and present and other people said that her nanny’s name was not Zenaida Gonzalez. They named other names of babysitters.
Pluto – I call my child a psychopath and sociopath because she is diagnosed as such. But I do think parents get angry and call their children (especially when speaking to someone else) all sorts of names. But.. But… but.. Cindy can’t keep trying to take back everything she has said. Raw emotion is like truth serum. When you are that angry or scared the truth pours out and you can’t no matter how much you want to believe something, you Can Not take it back.
i just heard on tv they the reporters are saying is there a connection with monster and zenaida. they will talk about it on 500 news
starryNY,
You made me feel better as a mother.
I already called my children when younger nasty names and regretted it later.
Especially when they stay a friend at night and donot let you know and you worry yourself sick the whole night plus one time when they taped the hind legs of one of my cats when they were 8/9.. I was ready to put duct tape on their legs,did not ofcourse.
myfoxorlando.com
Padilla says investigators from the Orange County Sheriff’s Office will fly to California to speak with him and his associates about their time spent with Casey while she was at home.
ok i get it now with zenaida.rambeling on i just get sooooooooo confused.
I also bet that is why parents happily pay for a cell phone for their teenage kids eventhough they can ill afford it. It is great to able to track them down when they are late coming home.
Peace on mind “priceless”.
Turkey (BB) Beaz – made a statement today, about law enforcement wasting tax payer dollars by re-arresting momster…
Wonder if he’s thought, that perhaps his client shouldn’t have been dishonest to begin with. Perhaps his clients pay-=per view money can go back to the OCSO to help re-pay their bills..> Just a thought
My word… it just gets worse and worse. Now they are saying the she told Padilla that Zenaida and her sister took off with Caylee but gave her a note saying what to tell the police for 30 days??? Are you kidding?
How long did the Susan Smith go on before she cracked??? Anyone know?
That’s why I pay for it snookers. At least I have some peace of mind and can sleep a bit better.
I just read that the HOA – development where they live, lost the bid that they made to the court about the protesters…
there was a headline that said investigators are flying out of florida to speak to witnesses is this Padilla or other leads?
It talks about it here Sheila…
http://www.transworldnews.com/NewsStory.aspx?id=61799&cat=14
BoBo said today that his client “is prepared for the worst.” Wonder what that means? Probably: “When they tell you that Caylee is dead, try to cry – as long as there are cameras there.”
Oh, of course, I didn’t mean to make anyone feel bad about mistakes us mothers make. We all do our best…I just mean that those labels are verbal abuse, even if we mistakenly do it when we are angry. I never have called my children that, but I’ve made other mistakes. But I do want to label it abusive, because it harms their self image.
But don’t mean to make mothers who are doing their best to feel bad. Sorry.
It think Padilla heard that script story second hand from one of his employees, the Dick guy, a young goodlooking dude.
A bodyguard/chauffeur for monster while Padilla was in Fla.. After that story surfaced, Monster was never chauffeured anymore by a non relative. Only family or BB. And Leevick got his new “paid” job, driving monster around.
I wish she would stop wearing t-shirts that say find caylee.. ugh…
mytwocents, did you hear Jose say that Casey couldn’t cry in front of cameras because then everyone would accuse her of “crocodile tears?” He is just like her accusing everyone else in order to escape reality.
Pluto said: “I’m still trying to piece it together. I still am just freaking out about where little Caylee was staying all this time when she was apparently nowhere.”
I have a theory on that Pluto! Here goes… First of all George didn’t work for something like 18 months to two years before all this happened. So, the monster only needed a daytime babysitter for two weeks. During those two weeks, the monster probably woke up each morning, got ready for her fantasy job and told her parents she was dropping Caylee off with “Zanny the Nanny” She would go somewhere and wait until C&G left for work then come back. She didn’t worry about anyone showing up unexpectedly because she already planted the seed, in everyone’s mind, that she could work from home whenever she wanted to. She probably hated every second of those two weeks. So, to stop from being bored, she started looking up “Chloroform” on her computer. She probably planned to use it on Caylee in the car, while she went shop lifting…during the day. (No one can tell me that wasn’t also in her repertoire of getting something for nothing) Then on 6/15 Cindy gets in to a huge argument with Casey, and that night Casey either made her evil plan or used the Chloroform on Caylee the next day.
I would like to hear your thoughts on this theory. Please don’t be afraid to break it down.
starry, Susan Smith cracked under interrogation. She probably didn’t know about the star treatment she could have enjoyed while her boys rotted. If only she would have known about Baez, she could have eaten brownies and tied up T-shirts with her boys’ pictures on them so she could look sexy while she was at it.
StarryNy, small price to pay for a good night sleep 🙂 I totally understand 🙂
Pluto, Did he really say that, how horrible.. Like I lost my mother, and nothing could stop me from breaking down and weeping… nothing… It was going to happen regardless of anything external
p.s. re: Susan Smith, if I remember correctly, The police told her they knew what she had done, (though they didn’t) and she then admitted it. They called her bluff.
If my daughter was missing, I could not care less what the public would think about my tears. I would be totally consumed by grief/worries.
I think I heard on NG, that say there is still flesh on the body, that the Cholorform, couldn’t be detected in an autopsy, too bad!
Hi Everybody.
The judge for the Homeowner’s Association just ruled against them. Seems the homeowner’s need to I.D. the protesters, which is impossible. So, the protesters can still protest at the Anthony home. Sort of feel sorry for the neighbors.
MMT, Thanks. That’s definitely a plausible theory. I still am lost in the labyrinth and haven’t got a theory yet…yours sounds very possible.
But where was Caylee from the 9th to the 15th at night when Casey was sleeping with guys?
Pluto – thanks for the infomation. I guess the only difference is that Smith left the boys where they could be found and Casey has hidden the baby someone they may never find her. Because you know if they found her, casey would be crying like a dog with her tail caught in the door!
Bounty Hunter Padilla said something on Nancy Grace last night about the Zaneida Gonzalez the police questioned knowing some guy who worked in a place where Lee and Casey went. Maybe Casey heard the name and thought that would be a good name for a fictional nanny to pin a kidnapping on if anybody ever found out Caylee was missing.
I think the reaction of the Smarts when their daughter went missing was normal. Ed Smart was hospitalized because he could not stop crying. That is what would happen to me, I’m sure. I almost can’t function when I hear of a stranger’s child being harmed, if it was my own, I’d have to be drugged.
do you think the police have more and they are holding back? I guess they are trying to build a strong enough case finding the body at this point shouldnt show how she was killed because of decomposition. but would dismiss the possibility of her being taken.
Since Casey picked up names from anywhere (movies, old HS acquaintances etc.) to use in her fantasy story, it seems likely that somehow she was exposed to the name while she was at Sawgrass Apts. Maybe she was in the office, I see people’s private info all the time due to lax office personnel. I have even seen bank tellers leave too much info exposed.
Who was that marine BH mentioned on NG? What is the connection with him and LV, and the monster?
I think that they’re certainly holding alot of compelling information back… they’ve slapped her with bigger charges yet, because they feel in time, more information will be discovered and don’t want to give BB the opportunity, to see all their research.
Good, Q: Shila!
Didn’t the BH say the marine worked at TGIF?
I too think Jose Baez is despicable. I can’t stand his smirk or the patronizing tone in his voice when he talks about the police picking on the innocent Mother of the Year.
I hope the state wipes the smirk off of his swarmy face when they convict his client for murdering her own innocent three year old child who trusted her and give her the death penalty.
I hope the jury bursts out laughing when he tells Casey’s pathetic story about the nanny Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez, who does not exist, kidnapping Caylee. I wonder which version the jury will hear.
The story she told the investigators about Casey leaving Caylee with Zenaida on the steps of the Sawdust apartments or the new story she told the private eye and bounty hunter about Zenaida and her sister, Samantha ambushing her in the park and handing her a script to follow and driving off with Caylee.
Couldn’t Casey think of a Hispanic name for Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez’s pretend sister? What Hispanic mother would name one daughter Zenaida and another Samantha?
MMT,
I did read somewhere that George only recently got a job as a security guard,apparently second shift since he left at 2.30. Cindy had a normal 8/5 job because she left in the morning. That would not leave too many hours for monster to go back home to an empty house.
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I also bet that police questioned the shovel neighbor as to how often and what time of day he saw casey’s car parked in the driveway. We know from his interview she normally parked it in the driveway. That it why is was unusual to him to see her parking it backwards in the garage.
I have another wild theory that the pavers for that future yard imporovement could have been in there and she loaded one up in her trunk to dispose of Caylee ala Scott Peterson.
Concerned,
That is kind of weird about the names. I’m not buying that for one second. Lying little b-tch.
Snookers,
Good theory! Weigh down the body.
very strange the search was stopped so suddenly
Still no word on the bones or the clothing from the UCF area.
I was looking at the mug shots of the monster, and the one taken yesterday shows big circles under her eyes.
she prob drew them on.
Baez is a defense attorney and unfortunately he’s doing his job, however much we hate him for it. Also one of the reasons I could never do it. You have to lie and keep lies in order to protect your client. There is no way they are going to find a complete jury in Florida who doesn’t know about this case, about all the press and the lies and what a maniac she is. And now even her family aren’t creditable witnesses to anything because of their behavior. Baez is going to cry she can’t get a fair trial. I would LOVE to be on the jury!
Sheila,
BB probably drew them her.
lol
If Jeffrey Hopkins was fired from Universal in 2002, did he even know Casey? If she was fired in 2006, was she even working at Universal when he was there? What did Jeffrey Hopkins tell the police about Casey besides the fact she called his parents?
when they show her arrestedand in handcuffs do you notice she does the cat walk like she is on a runway. and when she goes through security in jail its like a game to her, she is enjoying this.. its sick
I was just thinking … what juror, in their right mind, would listen to all the evidence (that we know so far) and not convict her?
Especially after seeing that picture of her dancing away when her little girl is “supposedly” missing. That’s another noose around her ugly neck that she can’t get rid of. I’m sure the prosecutor will use that photo in court.
starryNY,
I also donot hate Baez or Count Dracula. They are just doing a job that they were trained for. They represent only their client’s interest. It is immaterial to them if client is guilty or not. And sometimes they get clients off that are really innocent. Remember the Duke university story. One crooked DA, thankfully good defense lawyers.
starryNY,
That’s not going to work. The John Cuey case was all over the news, and they found a jury for him in Florida. He was the sicko that buried the little girl Jessica Lansford alive. Her father, Mark Lansford was all over the news. They even passed a law after the little girl “Jessica’s Law” Of course, he got the death penalty, but he got a fair trial.
yeah right what kind of mother would do that???? my child is missing let me go latch on to a stripper pole
Well right Catherine, I remember that case. Baez is going to try ever trick in the book on this one, he has too. She certainly hasn’t given him anything to work with toward her defense.
MMT,
I agree with you, but there are some people that say they can put aside what they read, and seen on T.V. and just listen to the evidence.
In monster’s case it doesn’t look to good for her out dancing while her daughter is missing. And lie after lie after lie to the police. BB knows she going down. BB’s last client got a guity verdict on his murder charge.
BB should be the one with the dark circles under his eyes.
Defense attorneys are necessary and they do have to defend….but he does not have to coddle and cuddle and babysit her and give her the royal treatment he does. That is just sick.
Starry,
I agree with you. BB knows she murdered Caylee, but he can’t say it. He just wants to save her from the needle, and hope he csn get her life w/o parole.
I personally believe she is going to get the death penalty, even if they don’t find little Caylee’s body.
BB might make a plea agreement with the DA for life w/o parole if the monster comes clean.
why cant the ants see through her?
Exactly. The way things are going they will have a “Dream Team” all set and ready to go before this even gets to arraignment on the murder charges.
You all have a good one… off to my 2nd job.. Home 🙂
Thanks for the conversation.
I sure hope they put her at FCI in Tallahassee. That’s where that Eileen Warnos was put, and they gave her the lethal injection for killing all those men. Charlene Theron won best actress for playing her in a movie about her life.
BB and monster still have an ace in the hole.
No body. Depending on the evidence police have, it could be used as plea bargaining if BB determines he cannot possibly win a murder case. Then damage control will kick in.
starryNY, When talking about defense attorneys, please help me out here. You happen to mention that being a defense attorney means that….
“You have to lie and keep lies in order to protect your client.”
Do these defense attorney’s actually make up lies too or do they just inflate the lies their clients have already told?
Also, do you think a defense attorney would ever give their client an excuse, so to speak, to use?
aprotester said to c why do you let her stay here? c response is this is her home. thats why c booted her butt out.
Ever notice how Casey and her Lover/Lawyer hold hands or how he has his arm around her in an embrace when they come and go?
Why are they holding hands? It is bizzare. I can understand taking someone’s arm to steady yourself if a lot of people are jostling about, but holding hands like they’re dating? These people are bizzare.
This kid glove treatment is so weird.
MMT – Didn’t monster live with boy friend Ricardo Morales before dating and eventually moving in with Tony? I don’t have the dates for Ricardo, at hand though.
Sheila,
They do see through her, but BB probably told them to rally around her. Why else would she run off to BB’s office every day. C & G know she murdered Caylee. Look at how skinny C & G got, but not monster. She just shakes he little a-s everytime she knows there is a camera on her. I just want to rip those rosary beads right off her neck. She is only wearing the shirt and the necklace, because she is told to do so by C. or BB.
I think Monster lived with Tony from around June 9 – according to Tony’s roommate. They met and dated in May but she lived with him starting in June through July 15 with the exception of the week of July 4 when she stayed with Amy while Tony was out of town.
I am curious if monster told BB she did do harm to Caylee. Is it attorney/client info that cannot be used against her in a court of law? BB seems like a ok defense attorney, but no as good as the Count. I think the Ant’s asked the Count to represent monster, and he say no. He has a real good reputation in Florida for winning cases, and he knew this monster’s case would be a loser for him.
the whole scence is gross, i dont know how she can stand to put that shirt on. but then again if you look up the meaning for sociapath it clearly states, no emotion, total dis attatchment.
Pluto,
BB has to be nice to Monster. She is his lucky lottery ticket. Other defense lawyers are in the wings waiting eagerly to take over if she would get mad at him. Most defense lawyers would almost kill to get a case like this.
Not only for the money but also for publicity, being part of history in famous cases books etc etc. It will put any defense lawyer on the map. The kind of case they dreamed about getting while in law school.
Just like BB said , he has people in line waiting to bail her out on this latest charge. Another case of follow the money.
BB even said, he has a rinky dink office in Kissimee. How successful dces that make him sound.
I thought it was very telling that on the tapes Casey told the investigators she was “petrified that I will never see my daughter again.” The only way she would know that is if she knew Caylee was dead.
Then later after she was in jail she told Lee she had a “gut feeling” Caylee was okay and would be home for her third birthday in August.
Of course, the birthday came and went and no sign of Caylee because only Casey knows where she disposed of “her daughter’s” decomposing body that she drove around in her trunk for days in between pole dancing and sleeping with four different guys. Disgusting!!!!!!
MMT,
Good lawyers are masters of wordsa.
That is why so many become politicians.
You have to hang on to each word they say very careful.
Like when Count Dracula said C & G did not receive a penny from any media outfit. It was probably paid directly to his office on their behalf. Ditto with BB. He did not lie!!!
Cooncerned,
She’s petrified that her mother will not forgive her. Why would her mother tell her if anythng happened to Caylee “I will never forgive you”. That’s what she told police when they were at her pretend job at Universal. She could care less about that little angel Caylee.
My memory’s a little vague on that, but I don’t think she totally moved in with Ricardo Morales, but she stayed there many nights with and without Caylee. (Sadly, we know the three in a bed story) I’m trying to think of what Amy said about the monster/Morales relationship. It seems like monster left Ricardo just before or right after she met Tony. I don’t think she moved in with Tony until after 6/15, but that relationship was new so she was staying there many nights prior to 6/15.
For some reason I’m thinking that might have even been included in the argument that she and Cindy had on 6/15… monster not being a good mother. (Don’t ask me where I got that at but I did hear that. Maybe it was something the neighbor overheard.)
snookers,
Your right. I think someone should look at the Ant’s bank account for a recent deposit from the Count.
Catherine, you mentioned that you thought it was strange that Baez mentioned he just had a rinky dink office.
I heard that too and I was wondering if he was saying he was just a little guy and the big mean state officials were taking advantage of him and his innocent Mother of the Year client who was just a victim of a vicious kidnapper who stole her child.
Apparently, Baez is not a very experienced lawyer. Nancy Grace mentioned that she didn’t understand why Mark NeJames wasn’t handling Casey’s defense since he was a veteran trial lawyer. She asked why Casey Anthony would let Baez “practice” on her.
snookers… thanks for educating me on defense attorneys. I think I understand a little bit more about their actions now.
MMT,
You probably read that in the 400 page docs that were released to the public. I think Ricardo and the monster tried to have a relationship, but it just wasn’t there for either one of them, so they stayed friends. I think monster met Tony in oerson right after that. She was conversing with him on Facebook during the month of May, and they met at Fusian’s the first time. Monster went back to Tony’s apartment that night and we all know what she did with him that night. Then she started coming over to his house, and brought Caylee over until the roomie said, it wasn’t really a place for little kids to be with so many people coming in and out of the apartment 24/7 that was around June 2nd.
Howdy ya’ll, up to date for now reading the blogs, wishing wasn’t OCD about the case cuz it’s taking me away from usual duties around the house, argh..
I am awaiting results of the bones and clothing found some ten or more days ago when Tim of Equusearch pulled out, I heard he went back to Aruba looking for Natalee again for the next month and said he’d be back, humm..
Also the torso and small body part found this weekend by a boater, could have been a bloated child’s torso too, for all we know, looking like a young adult.
I don’t think M would have had the balls to feed her baby to a gater, possibly doing another peterson (possible) but Caylee WOULD surface somehow eventually even then..
Maybe M borrowed the shovel from neighbor to just “move” Caylee’s body so she wouldnt have to directly handle it, say she was in a bag, (fingerprints and all) the shovel would be used to place Caylee in her vehicle and then returned to the neighbor.. but never used to dig with.
Why can’t they put M in jail for what she HAS DONE and KEEP her there till the murder trial… on NG the guy who called this question in wasn’t answered yesterday..
Concerned,
I agree. BB is not any big deal in Florida. The Count most likely turned down the case, because it’s a loser for his solid gold record.
I can’t imagine being C + G and having to sleep in the same house with her every night. It must be tearing them apart inside. They know that whether she did something to Caylee or allowed something to happen to Caylee, as human beings (foget about the law), they know it was Casey’s fault. She allowed this to happen whether it was intentional or through carlessness.
The guilt that they must feel in not being more assertive in getting Caylee and keeping Casey away from he must be enormous. I am no fan of Cindy and George’s behaviour, but I don’t believe they ever thought their daughter, even with all the lies, and stealing and attitude, could hurt Caylee. This will destroy this family.
cj,
She goes to court on Nov, 17th for the child neglect charge, and abandonment charge. I don’t know if the whole Amy H. charges will be then or not, but I think there are more charges coming. Remember Ricardo is missing a credit card.
Beyond,
I agree with you. C. showed her hand too soon to the monster. She should have went for custody then told the monster to get out. When she kicked the monster out of the house she had no where to go with Caylee. So, she got rid of Caylee, and moved in with Tony. She must really hate her mother so much that she chose to kill Caylee than give custody to her mother, and this woman stays by this lying little b-tch.
Yeah guess 11/17’s right around the corner Catherine.
OH I liked kimcon’s post too, very informative..
I think EVEN if C HAD obtained custody first M STILL would/could have taken Caylee’s life for the same reasons..
C and G’s hands are and have been tied all along…
Like I said before, monster said Zenaida watched other children when she was watching Caylee. Where are the other mothers that can back up that story? The only Zanny the nanny monster nows is the one that is in the children’s book. I forget the name of the book, but it was posted last night by one of the bloggers.
hi everyone just reading a few posts here, catherine i think the ants should have taken custody from day one considering casey didn’t want the baby inside her, should have been the first thing C bargained for, as far as the law it’s all due proccess if the court wants to move to trial BB could always pertition for the trial to be postponed and vice versa, she can’t be denied bail since she’s not a flight risk, and the proicuter hasn’t charged her with a heinous crime as yet…but the ants should leave her in jail although i think BB would get her out any way, plus the ants want her home, besides without casey there where would they get their drama fix…that’s my idea on the whole mess lol
CJ
you’re so right. As if it’s so easy and instant to get custody, which I’m sure it isn’t. Again I’m not a fan of C+G, obviously Casey came from somewhere, and was allowed to behave like monster for a long time. I just can’t imagine the “what ifs” that must play over and over in their minds, what they could have done differently.
Hi Sabrina,
Your right. The drama would sell more books wouldn’t it. I thought I read that C did have power of attorney over Caylee.
Beyond,
I don’t know how monster sleeps right next to Caylee’s room. That would make me go insane if I were innocent.
and I completely agree with an earlier poster who spoke about Cindy going and weeding in her yard, or out there with the hammer and yellow tape, and getting into it with the protestors. Complete control freak and narcissist who needs attention.
I would be so consumed with looking for my granddaughter that I wouldn’t even know the protestors were there. who cares about the weeds or the signs, WHATEVER. I would hire a PI in NY, TX, Mexico.. all the places these supposed credible leads came from, and I would BE THERE looking for Caylee. Not “calling New York from home.” Why is there NO SENSE OF URGENCY with this family?
oh hi again, i watched the NG again last night, and i believe it was C’s fault for aproaching that womans car, i noticed on second time watching the car door was open and C was standing within inches from the womans face also seen the woman push C’s hand away…anyone else see this
Do you think that ankle monitor is bugged?
C used hammer and tape as an excuse to go outside, she’s the worse joke ever lol
Question to anyone familiar with the law:
I wonder what would have happened if Cindy and George refused to let Casey stay with them while out on bail? Would Baez have taken her into his home? What happens if you are homeless but released on bail? Would the jail just keep you because you had nowhere to go that they could set up the phone line and monitor you? Would you be allowed to go home if you lived alone?
yeah they could have done alot differently and I bet they feel tremendous guilt, because it’s human nature to, it’s always easy to look back and see what was done wrong in hindsight..
we all make mistakes but this was more than that, it was something that required professional intervention… and it STILL does…
This family is wasting away and running on empty, their resources are used up… they need tons of prayers and supporters to help them get through this and survive beyond M’s eventual incarceration..
AlSO PENDING and PERPLEXING.. WHO IS THE DADDY????
Sabrina,
Yes, I did see that. I do feel thst dirt ball protester should not have taken her child there to begin with, especially at midnight. C. was in the wrong she did lunge for the girl in the SUV.
i hope the ankle moniter is bugged that would be a hoot lol…oh and if i were innocent i would be in caylees room hugging all her stuff sleeping her bed and be inconsolable
yes catherine i agree about the children shouldn’t be there at that time of night or subjected to such insane circumstances
I think she will be charged with murder and the child neglect charges dropped by Nov. 17 because both charges pertain to Caylee’s disappearance.
According to Florida law, you can’t be charged twice on the same case. I don’t think they could get a murder conviction if she is found guilty or innocent of child neglect and interferring with an investigation.
With or without a body, the evidence points more to homicide than child neglect.
The evidence that the investigators have:
1- DNA evidence that proves Caylee is dead and her decomposing body was in Casey’s car trunk and in the back yard of the Anthony home.
2- Air tests show a decomposing body and chloroform saturated the air of the trunk.
3- Her computer shows she was researching chloroform which could prove premeditation.
3- The police interrogation tapes show Casey lied about leaving Caylee with a babysitter who doesn’t exist after getting home from a job she didn’t have.
3- Four people and two cadaver dogs smelled the scent of a decomposing body in the trunk and in the yard.
4- Testimony shows Casey wanted to give Caylee up for adoption, didn’t want Caylee to be raised by her parents and was feuding with her mother.
5- Pictures show she was pole dancing and partying while her daughter was missing and lying to her friends and family that Caylee was at the beach and Disneyworld.
The charges she is now faced with on child neglect and interfering with an investigation could get her six years.
A murder conviction could get her life without parole or the death penalty.
Catherine said, in September 16th, 2008 at 3:13 pm
Concerned,
I agree. BB is not any big deal in Florida. The Count most likely turned down the case, because it’s a loser for his solid gold record.
********Is the count still on this case, I haven’t heard a peep from him in well over a week? Perhaps another once supporter has hit the dust or is tired by the twisting of words by C&G?
Concerned, Thank you for the detail, looks great…
I would like to see how C can spin point #1 on your rundown…
Sabrina,
Me too. I think C. goes in Caylee’s room to feel close to her.
cj,
Martha Stewart went home for 5 months wearing an ankle monitor. I think if you are homeless you should probably stay in jail. You get 3 square meals a day, T.V., gym, library. It’s like a little hotel.
the count isn’t goig to say much if anything, just like on NG it was a waste of time talking to him, he doesn’t need the publicity and sometimes silence is golden so to speak, also i wonder if he regrets taking on C&G for clients lol especially after the confrontation infront of the ants house sunday lol
concerned, I second your post,
Amy – hi!
Concerned,
Great post. That would mean they would have to arrest her on homicide charges before November 17th, right?
Hi CJ and thanks, Sabrina…
I bet the Count is very displeased with C&G lack of respect for his efforts and lack of following his direction..
Sabrina,
I think the Count is trying to cut deals for a book or movie for the Ant’s. Who needs to buy it we already know practically everything.
Hi Amy
Monday Morning Therapist said, When talking about defense attorneys, please help me out here. You happen to mention that being a defense attorney means that….
“You have to lie and keep lies in order to protect your client.”
Do these defense attorney’s actually make up lies too or do they just inflate the lies their clients have already told?
Also, do you think a defense attorney would ever give their client an excuse, so to speak, to use?
As a defense attorney, one’s very job is to acquit your client by any/every means possible. This includes distorting the facts (to the jurors), inflating the truth and – yes – lying. The same goes for a prosecuting attorney, win a conviction by any means possible. This is why lawyers are the butt of morality jokes you hear – Ex “Ambulance-Chasers”, etc.
oh the ants aren’t going to follow any direction that’s given to them at least not for long, they need to play off each other for the limelight, one day G loses it and C is the calm one, next time C loses it and G is the calm one good grief if they wanted to avoid all the hoopla they easly could simply stay out of the limelight see easy lol
I have to run errands, will look for you guys later, after NG.
yep catherine entirely right, count is a smart man…hi amy
bye bye cj
kimcon,
You mean if the monster told BB where she put Caylee he wouldn’t tell the police?
wonder what happened to that movie producer/spokesman they hired, that weirdo that was interviewed a few times showing off one of those rubber bracelets that was donated to the “find Caylee” cause.
catherine, anything casey says to BB is in confidence he cannot repeat it ithout her permission, he would be disbarred
Catherine said,in September 16th, 2008 at 3:59 pm kimcon,
You mean if the monster told BB where she put Caylee he wouldn’t tell the police?
That is correct Catherine (nice name). The hired attorney does not have to tell the police anything his client tells him. And yes, he can “suggest” alibis/stories for her. If BB told the police, let’s say, where Caylee is (as stated by Monster) he would be disbarred.
Sabrina beat me to the punch! 🙁
Sabrina,
As a human being he wouldn’t tell the police where Caylee’s body was if he knew?
LOL kimcon, two minds come together eh
I have met my match! 🙂
As a human being he wouldn’t tell the police where Caylee’s body was if he knew?
If he did/does – he has lost his livlihood and 8 years of law school. All lawyers know going in they have to switch off their “morality buttons” for the sake of making a living. Especially defense attorneys!
well guys/gals i need food i’ll be back later on bye bye for now
Oh I just feel sick over that. You know that fat butterball knows that monster is a lying little baby killer, and he can still put his arm around her. I think the protesters should go over to his house next for defending that murderer.
Bye Sabrina!~
Being a defense attorney has got to be gut wrenching – especially for the ones with souls. If I were Monster’s attorney, I would tell her up front NOT to tell me if/how she killed her daughter or where the body is.
I, for one, couldn’t do that.
Yeah Catherine lets go over there protest, and while were at it why don’t we go over to all the defense attorney’s offices who have defended guilty people, and just throw away our judicial system.
kimcon,
I just could not be in a profession that protects liars, especially baby killers.
Just look at OJ – don’t think for a second his lawyers didn’t know what he really did.
None of us would want to be in that profession Catherine but there is nothing anyone can do.
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kimcon22000, Thanks for clarifying that for me! I was always led to believe that prosecuting attorneys had to be aboveboard and only bring truthful facts and evidence to the table. So, that REALLY shocks me! Now, when it came to defense attorneys, I was more skeptical and had my suspicions of their honesty. Thanks again!
The “system” doesn’t always work or it can backfire – like the OJ trial.
An opposite example is the movie “Blind Innocence”. Watch it if you haven’t – it will scare the life out of you. Based on a true story – a must see!
Dak,
Long time no see. I am not talking about every defense lawyer just the ones that defend the ones they know are baby killers.
Dak,
Don’t take the case of a known baby killer. And if you are forced to then I wouldn’t bend over backwards trying to get them released so they could do it again.
I understand Catherine but people badmouthing the attorneys and evrything is just more than venting.
So what then Monster isn’t allowed to have an attorney.
Gotta go. See eveyone later.
It doesn’t matter who her attorney is. If she didn’t hire her own she would have had one appointed to her.
The judge that denied the motion to limit protesting should be disbarred. What’s it going to take to get control over there, somebody getting seriously hurt or killed.
Yes-you’re right Dak. Everyone is entitled to an attorney in the USA.
Some of the judges are even worse than the lowliest of lawyers …..
kimcon22000, my nephew is a prosecuting attorney in TN (previously MI) and he has been offered BIG bucks to join defense teams and he has declined, due to what you said regarding ‘having to switch off their “morality buttons” for the sake of making a living.” (Kimcon…you sure have a way with words!)
My nephew also said that he’s not going to lie by telling anyone that it wasn’t tempting. He was thinking of everything he could do for his wife and kids, but then he realized he was losing sleep over just thinking about it…. what would he do if he had to live it. LOL
Great point MMT! Some people are just not cut out to do that and vise-versa.
Well somebody has to be attorney for the defense or else we wouldn’t need prosecuting attorneys, we could just sentence people ourselves bydoing an online jury vote.
starryny just read ur posts and wish u and ur daughter goodluck and happiness u are everything that a mother should be and brave for sharing ur circumstances with everyone.
Well MMT how would your nephew feel if he got someone convicted of a crime they didn’t commit, its not much different.
I sometimes wonder of Johnny Cocheran died at an early age because of morality issues that turned into physical issues (getting OJ off when he knew he was guilty and other similar cases).
DAK,
That movie I mentioned “Blind Justice” is about an innocent man convicted for a crime he did not commit. True story. A must watch! It will scare any reasonable person to death! It could happen to you or me!
A defense attorney has the opportunity to be an honest person within the bounds of his job. He doesn’t have to tell all, but saying that it is a requirement that part of a defense attorney’s job is to lie and give false alibis just isn’t so.
kimcon22000 said,
in September 16th, 2008 at 4:27 pm
“Some of the judges are even worse than the lowliest of lawyers”
One of the judges in Detroit addressed the mother of a man he was sentencing to life in prison as follows:
“This is the third son, of yours, that I am putting away for life… your womb is a cesspool.” OMG!
a defense attorney’s job is to lie and give false alibis just isn’t so.
I never said that. And ommission is lying too isn’t it?
I just watched some videos of protestors. I completely understand that people are passionate about this case, and the right to assemble. But what I saw was not peaceful protest. It can’t be legal for people to be out in the street at midnight causing all that trouble. I feel bad for the neighbors. It must be very difficult to live there, and I don’t think our right to assembly trumps right to those residents peaceful home.
I would feel very threatened by what was going on. And guess who’s fault that is? Cindy Anthony for intiviting all these people to her home for these vigils (BIZZARE) and press conferences in the beginning, and now fighting with them on a regular basis. She is the fuel to that fire. Why would you invite strangers to your home? Who does that?
Don’t they have family or friends to rely on. I’ve actually seen Cindy fighting with a protestor and then hugging her, like she’s some sort of benefactor bestowing her forgivness and wisdom on the protestors. That is one weird lady.
a defense attorney’s job is to lie and give false alibis just isn’t so.
What a creep!
OMFG, I have seen it all now!!!!
You know at first, her Lawyer hovered over Monster when they walked out in the rain, then the second time , her Lawyer had these bodyguards lined up so Monster could walk to the car..
Now, The F@#king piece of s@#t of a lawyer is holding Monsters hand and walking her to the Car….You have got to be kidding me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!What next, skipping and swinging arms?
What ever happened to her holding her head high cause she so F@#king innocent….
I’m also pissed off cause the website that wants to sell $10 bracelets to help find Caylee, is being organized by Lee the brother…He can kiss my A$$ too…..
The nerve of these people to ask for money after (over) 1000 volunteers that took their personal time to help you find Caylee, and then Cindy demands the team to stop..
That should tell you that this whole thing is a money racket…Everyone in this family lies even LEE!
I mean that judge was a creep for saying that MMT.
Well beyond according to a judge that denied the motion to put limits on the protesters it doesn’t matter where or when you protest. And most of the protesters could care less about the nieghborhood therefore making them ignorant.
Some say Lee is the father.
Dak-
But doesn’t “how” you protest come into play? Whether you are disrupting the peace or a menace to society?
I guess not beyond. I don’t think Allie will be on Monsters jury.
What website are you talking about Allie.
I can totally relate to Allie’s post. I feel the same way, completely disgusted that this family is asking for money. The gaul. Taxpayers have footed enough of this bill on this case. I wonder if there is a way to tally all the tax dollars spent and then hand a bill to the Anthony’s.
Dak, my nephew did consider those facts, and came to the conclusion that it would be less lightly for him to convict an innocent person. Of course, he knows that’s not 100%… just the odds.
LOL Dak, I have listened to the (AI)
and its like listening to a child tell a lie.
It goes on and on and on with no truth at all…
MMT I gues they do have lower rate of convicting an innocent person.
What website is selling the bracelets
It was on the evening news today channel 13 orlando..The holding hands was today when they released Monster again..
alliethinks- i wrote about that earlier today too, the holding hands, his arms huddled around her in an embrace, her leaning on his chest and whispering in his ear that first time, and him relating to the story. WEIRD. Like someone describing a date.
BeyondFrustrated,
NV did just that for the costs of looking for Fosset when his plane went down. Costs were over 800K. I’m with you, charge back the costs to Anthony’s which should eat-up all of the money they’ve been offered so far.
I heard it but didn’t register the website sorry… I’m new to websites.. I’ll listen again it will be back on every 30 minutes.
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alliethinks,
I agree with you! I was getting riled just reading what you wrote on September 16th, at 4:37 pm OMFG, I have seen it all now!!!!
catherine im with u on ur thoughts i couldnt sleep at night knowing that i helped keep a child killer on the streets,especialy in a case like this were it is so obvious that monster is guilty.
hi all i’m back, my eggs were frozen ugh lol, thankfully i some still the box that were ok…ok enough of that lol…catherine if you’re still here i agree i couldn’t defend someone i knew was gulity specially of such a heinous crime, there i wouldn’t make a good defense attny, guess i would have to be a pro bono for the ones i deemed innocent not much money there, yet i think i would make an excelent prosecuter…and what bracelet are you guys talking about ?
I’m going to what for the news to play back
I’ll tune in later
Goodbye all – see you tomorrow!
Lawyers only think of it as what is entitled to anyone, whether guilty or not guilty, everyone is entitled to a fair trial. It’s also a mental challenge I think – an ego boost if they can get someone deserving of ultimate punishment off with a much lesser sentence. It’s not the altrusistic act to make the world a safer place, doesn’t enter into it for them.
Good night all.
and that’s a shame elle, i might be closed minded but i think when it’s abvious that someone is guilty as casey is then that person should lose all their rights, yet i know how some things can make a person look guilty just like some who have been proven innocent after dna came into play
Kimcon2200,
Johnny Cochran was one heck of a defense attorney. I never hated him for getting OJ off. When I watched him on TV against Marsha something ,I always thought “damn you are good”. I really admired him. Sad he died of a brain tumor too early in life.
In a jury trial, they only have to convince a jury and work on that “reasonable doubt”.
I think good defense attorneys turn off their human distaste against the defendant and it is just a chess game of minds against the prosecutor(s).
In a trial where the defendant has beaucoup money, it is a lopsided match against a young unexperienced prosecutor vs highly paid super smart defense experienced lawyers.
If the defendant is poor, they are often forced into a plea deal by intimidation even when innocent.. Very few countries have trials by a jury selected from peers/none legal trained population. GB and USA are unique in that.
I think BB might be out of league in this case but I really like Count Dracula, such a cool cat.
good night beyond
PS
Ebay
The bracelets say “helpfindCaylee”
the count is a very smart man, BB i think will be eat alive, and may regret ever getting involved in this case just might be his undoing as far as his career and life as he knows it
thanks allie, i won’t be buying it, and won’t pay for a book or movie on this case, i might watch it for free but i’ll not pay or donate one red cent
I agree completely snookers.
How about a bracelet that says
” Casey tell the truth ”
I’ll pay $10 for that “
if i could afford it i would love to go search but that’s as far as i am willing to go…i heard earlier that equusearch is back in aruba and plans to come back to fl to do more searches for caylee
But proceed have to go to Tim Miller…
oh i would pay / donate to equusearch but not the ants or any movie makers ie ppv or book
anyone who tries to make a profit from such a heinous deed is despicable
Okay Allie if you say the bracelet on ebay then why are you blaming Lee.
hi dak, if the bracelet is on ebay someone had to put it there, but i don’t know enough about it to comment on who
Well the only bracelets on ebay with help find caylee on them that I saw, Lee has nothing do with it. The seller is from California.
maybe if you bid on it you could find out who put the bracelet up for bid
could be someone bought a few in order sell for a profit
Actually its buy it now only and there are 200 available.
ah ok well someone wants to make a profit, i haven’t checked it out…could be an independent person who had a bunch of the bracelets made in order to get in on the action, who knows
hi sabrina i totally agree i would never give that crazy family 1 dime
hi sharon, the only way they won’t make money from this case is if they are convicted for crimes involving the case which i hope they are convicted, but they won’t be getting any money from me, and as time goes on and people get more educated the less money they will get from others
idrove by ants house . did not stay / this family is totally messed up .going by there was like being in the dam twilight zone eerie to me.
sharon tell us what you seen, i know that family is totally F’ed up, but why do you say it, is it something you seen other than what’s seen on tv ???
.i will not protest nothing like that i think i would like to search though .does any one know? did they search where monsters friend said they would go back in the day? take food from each others house have gab sessions only 3 would go there.
i don’t know of all the places that’s searched there’s been several dofferent searches done by several different search teams and not being from that area i couldn’t honestly say
no i see what we all see on tv.to me it was just freekie . i can see why people from all over the country go by there. i guess inquiring minds wanna know what its really like to see it right in front of you.
i think if i lived close enough to them i would drive by and most likely sit and look probably throw some flowers in the yard with a nicely phrased note attached lol, not really, but might place some flowers on curb for them to find, try to guilt trip them , but i’m thinking they may not be capable of guilt feelings
i agree they have no feelings emotions ect.
maybe a nicely phrased note might give them food for thought, doubtful though, but if lived there i think i would give it a try
i think when i went by i was angry there all in that house sitting down to dinner probally talking about there day. how can anyone do that i couldnt eat sleep i would be beggin for someone any one to help me find calee they are all cold .evil people
i would ask C if she cuddled caylees teddy or smelled caylees pillow cried on caylees bed looked at caylees pictures, watched caylees videos, would say caylee alot, among much other words, only nice ones though try to conjure up some deep feelings, ask how much she missed caylees smile etc…i can think of so much i would say to her, i think i could break her down at least a little
oops mispelled caylees name.
but seeing how those people act i think C would read a few words and crumple the note and throw it in the trash
it’s alright sharon i know what you meant, we all mispell in here it’s because we’re trying to type so fast and furious, but all can read between the lines, i leave out entire words lol
Snookers,
You got it right on your 5:03 post.
I still think it would be great if FL billed the Anthony’s for the costs concerning Caylee search. This is something Nevada did to Mrs. Fosset when her husband was missing. They never did find him. Maybe they’d search or interrogate their daughter if they had something to lose financially from dragging this out.
i dont think c g can think straight about anything.if i had monster in the same room with me sorry but i would torture her until she told me where little caylees body was
hey elle/snookers excellent idea ! 2 thimbs up !
boy what i wouldnt give to be afly in that house.
C&G are thinking straight enough to lawyer up for their own defense, and take everything out on others except their precious icky brat
you are right
sharon did you take down they’re address when you were there ? bet between all the people on here we could come up with a long letter to send them
I don’t believe Casey told her attorney that she killed Caylee and where the body is buried. I believe she is sticking to her Zenaida the nanny kidnapped her story.
Casey is a pathological liar and she has fun making up people, places and events that don’t exist. She doesn’t know how to tell the truth.
She doesn’t want to tarnish the perfect little mother image that she has tried hard to create. That’s why she keeps telling the investigators and her friends and family: “I would never let anything happen to my daughter” and “I left her with someone I trusted and she betrayed that trust.”
I believe that Baez knows she is lying because the evidence proves that there is no Zenaida, an innocent mother would report her child missing and wouldn’t lie to the police when her mother does and an innocent client wouldn’t have the smell of a decomposing body in her car trunk.
there’s no doubt BB knows casey is lying, i just wonder if he had a psychologist examine her while she spent all those days and hours in his office, trying to make up an insane defense
I know I’d be crying a river if this happened to me – so for C&G to function at all is amazing. Casey is another story, not sure any of this affects her. My heart goes out to C&G, it’s a terrible time in their life and it’s not going to get better in the future. They must be feeling so hopeless right now. Not sure what the lawyer thing is about, other than the whole situation being more than they can deal with and they are reaching out for some help. Everyone thinks they should be searching, but I’m not sure I could….I’d collapse at the thought but I’d at least appreciate everyone’s efforts, which has not been the case. I’m a strong individual, but this would try anyone’s coping skills. When my parents died, I needed to check out from the reality, and deal with it in my time & terms. I think this may be the case here too – they just want to believe, but everything will unfold in time.
I doubt if Casey would agree to an insanity defense. Besides psychologists and FBI profilers say she isn’t crazy just a sociopath or psychopath. They lie and have no attachment to people so they can kill loved ones without flinching.
don’t blast me for the comment above. that’s putting aside all my frustration with the case and just trying to relate to the people involved.
i agree elle at least for the most part, but does lashing out and insulting people help especially the ones trying to search and especially the ones they them selves called in to help search
it’s been said that crazy people don’t/know they’re crazy lol but if he tells casey and the ants it’s the only way to save her sorry ass then wouldn’t she/ants go for it ?
I can’t imagine what it would be like to have people out front of your house protesting at the most difficult time of their life. They probably would like to kick her (monster’s) *ss, but they can’t. If she says anything to them then they would be in the position of having to turn her in and it’s some place they can’t even go yet emotionally. The mind is very powerful for sure, and I think they are controlling the information they get to protect themselves emotionally. Soon enough they’ll be really deep in this stuff.
Evening All!! 10 min till NG!!!
I hope she can shed some new insights!!!
Would prefer if BH didn’t show his money mug tonight…
You know they can’t sleep, eat, or even laugh – it’s changed everything for them. I ran all of you off with my views….just trying to give cause for thoughts other than the standard here. It’s a rough time for them and they can’t do better than they are – not possible. Does that make any sense? I think the anger and everything they do is a result of not sleeping, eating or laughing….and every day it’s not getting better, and it will get worse.
elle i fully understand what you’re saying, please don’t get me wrong…i’m a tuff love type of person that being said i would’ve let casey stay in jail, i believe that would have kept the protesters off their door step, surely they can see that’s why all the hoopla is going on, they are able to place blame on any/everyone except for where it belongs, as for searching for caylee their self speaking from experience i would be out there in the flesh, i have done it myself when my brother went missing, also had a dog go missing and did more to find him then what the ants are doing to find caylee
OKAY, I’ll leave you guys now. Don’t want to discourage your spirit of debate.
hi amy i’m here waiting for NG with you
no no elle was a could sharing of ideas look forword to more
What if you found them? Could you handle it? We’re not talking about a dog, but a body that’s been decomposing for months and this was someone you raised and loved more than anything. I’m just saying, it’s a painful situation. But like I said, I’d appreciate everyone’s efforts more than I could express.
I’d leave her in jail too though, you’re absolutely right about that.
elle compared to the nightmares i had when my brother was missing, i think finding him what ever condition he was in was by far better compared to the nightmares
well time for NG i’ll be back on after it’s over see ya then
true, not knowing has to drive you crazy. Did they find your brother? Hope that turned out alright.
hello all, can you view NG live from her web site? if so where is her web site? is it through the cnn, i only see ‘show pages’?
are we not getting along again? 🙂
i think i left last night with this: i agree to disagree, let’s all say that together….we agree to disagree 🙂
and now i’m talking to myself 🙂 again! hehehe
yes elle found my brother he’s home safe and sound…easy going i don’t have any idea if NG has a cam site…we are getting along or i think we are/hope we are, just voicing our opinions
Elle,
No won’t blast you. I hope count dracula did ship them to a mental health professional to help them and learn to accept their current situation. Monster would even accuse them of criminal things if it would help her case .
I thas suggested said that monster hated her mother and killed Caylee because her mother loved Caylee.
I cannot even believe Monster hated her mother. She can neither love nor hate another person, basically requires the same emotions. Monster only sees obstacles preventing living her life the way she want. It is very hard for a normal person to put ourselves in that frame of mind.
No matter how much we perceive C & G as villians too, they are also victims and have been for a long time, long before July 15th.
Snookers – you really write those thoughts well – sometimes I wait for you to add clarity to my statements. I think we’re linked on this view, probably the only ones here that can see the other side as well.
while commercial is on…a beautiful comparison on NG about beth twitty and the ants…beth going to the ends of the earth to find natalie and still searching, ants still nothing
Hi Sabrina! How goes it….
Interesting that Momster has been order to say away Amy H?
Think she was trying to get in touch with Amy H and plead that she don’t press charges!
Hi Easy, you’re not talking to yourself, I’m in and out watching NG 🙂
Hi Everybody
going good amy you? yeah i heard that too, bet casey has been trying to get intouch with many people she wronged to little to late …easy going did you find the NG cam ? oh elle i do understand all the points you made and see how some people feel that way, point well taken, i have greived befor when losing a parent figure took me 2 yrs or more to finally come to terms with it
Those detectives sure did some great questioning.
Howdy, Cat!
Here infront of the boob tube! Turkey claiming that the crime labs are slanted is so lame!
yeah amy i’m in and out too…also understand how traumatizing it would be to find a decomposing body of a loved one…but still i think it would be better to know than not to know and never be able to greive and move on, but that’s just me
Leaving work finally, time to go home and catch up with the NG that is recorded. Thanks all and have a great evening
I am from England U.K and have been following this case since it broke and everyday I check in the hope they have found little Caylee. I have a 2 year old grandaughter who I would die for if I had too and this unfolding case has left me stunned. I think if I were in there shoes I would have to be sedated and as much as I love my child I have have to use any means to get the truth . My eldest child passed away aged 21 after a long illness 8 years ago and I will never recover so I just cannot understand the behaviour of any of the Anthony’s !!! God bless Caylee I do so hope you are found very soon. x
Sabrina it took me years to get over the loss of my mom, too.
Loss sure does take a toll I love 20lbs during that time, I was a pencil..
hi catherine, just watchin NG so i’ll be in and out til her show goes off, please no one think i’m ignoring them
Hello guys,
I am new, but have been reading your posts, and I have to say that I am also soooo very frustrated with this case, and feel the same way the majority of you do. It’s amazing how consumed you become with all of this. All day long, I find myself checking for any new information. i may not post much, but just wanted to introduce myself.
Why is BH still innvolved in this case? Is he working with the LE in Orlando?
Hi heatherri Welcome
See you later elle….
Thanks, cat. i come on here most of the time to get updates from NG because i don’t get the show here, and they only show bits of it online.
I hate when M, says uh-huh
Howdy Heatherri! Welcome to our happy family…
We may not always agree, but enjoy the healthy banter…
Cat, BH I have a feeling is loving the attention…
Earlier someone asked about the web-cam…
the only one that I know of is on myfoxorlando.com
I don’t like the doctor NG has on tonight. She is feeling sorry for M. and NG is getting pissed.
I hate when M says “absolutely” or “absolutely that’s what I know”
what the hell is there to feel sorry for? she is 100% guilty in my mind! the only person that i feel sorry for is Caylee. i just wish that they would find her and bring her home for closure. my cousin went missing and we helped in the search. he was found deceased but at least we had the closure needed to move on.
Cat, which dr. the pshy? or the forensics guy?
welcome heather… uh huh uh huh uh huh OMG !!! BARF what the psychologist just said: i think she has been peeping at my posts lol i’ve said the same things weeks ago lol
agreed, just looking at her makes me so mad.. so callous and her daughter is some place dead – totally disrespectful.
C&G by the way is not one of my favorite people.
There is a lot of pathology in that family…
Amy
I think you are right.
i am going to eat guys, i will check back in later.
Think the body guards are from fusion night club (bouncers)
bon apetite…
easy,
I think we all get along great. We agree to disagree sometimes which is fine with me. I just can’t take that Dak3 anymore, so he is the exception to the rule.
Amy,
M. probably slept with them too.
one thing i diagre with the psychologist is the so called hurt or what ever she thinks casey had in childhood may be why casey is a b*tch, everyone has had a hurt to some degree in their childhood, not all become that way, look at oprah !
I sure hope they don’t go for a manslaughter charge. I say murder one.
Sabrina,
I totally agree with you.
Re: Turkey: He is a piece of work opportunist, that’s just my opinion and I’m sticking to it!
NG pointed that out right off the bat on day two of her coverage on the case…
does anyone know if “syble” is a true story ? just thinking if it is true that was horrific abuse, i don’t see that happening in the ants home but one never knows, if anything like that did happen i might explain how casey turned out that way
She’s such a horn-dog anything is possible…
she has no sense of wrong
Sabrina,
Yes, Sybil is a true story
well i’m flip flopping on that idea, still i had some awful experiences in my childhood but i learned from them and know i would never turn that on anyone else
sab, who’s sable?
well not everyone comes out of a tramatic experience the same way
sybil is a movie about a little girl who’s mother abused her terribly
Never mind, I know now about sable 🙂
that movie was extremely hard for me to watch…but i still can’t see that happening to casey, i agree C has probs but not like that
did I hear something earlier on the NG show that the search for caylee in continuing
yeah, wasn’t that about going out of state ???
sabrina,
Sybil was a great movie. Sally Fields was great. Multiple personalities certsainly can’t be M.’s defense. She is alittle lying bi-ch,whose mother let her get away with everything. As per C’s words “Love is blind”. Well, C. is it blind to the murder of your grandchild. Grow a backbone, and grab that daughter of yours, and make her tell you what she did with Caylee.
i’ll be watching NG again later i know i missed bits and pieces here and there, tried to jump up and make cereal befor she came on lol, and tried to do some posting during comercials, i was a bit distracted
Thought I would pop in to see if everything is ok. I wanted to explain why I was a little bit sensitive to some things yesterday. This is not usually how I am. I was extremely overtired and had just come back from my doctors visit. Had a needle biopsy in the neck and found out that I will be going back in again soon (fall/winter) for my 15th surgery in a series that started about 8 years ago. I was a little down about it all but tried to put on a false front regardless in here and be my usual self. I am not normally so sensitive to things but it was a culmination of alot at once. I don’t get alot of love/support from my partner when these surgeries come around so to know I will be yet again facing another has kept me from telling him so far. In a way I am ashamed to say he is sort of like how we describe monster in here…narcistic, and self centered (we are polar opposites)how this happened I can’t say. When I finally tell him this news it will become “his” injustice. So I have been keeping this secret at the back of my mind since early yesterday afternoon on when to break the news.
Sorry if I was ultra sensitive, I just needed to get a good night sleep, regroup, and give my issues some thought. I did not see everyones posts in here until tonight. I just wish to share in here thoughts & theories and also keep the friends I feel I have made thus far. It sounded like I was wanted back, so I would like to share some info tonight if everyone is ok with that.
i agree catherine, just the lady on NG gave me some food for thought, but i had already disputed that…casey should be sitting in jail there’s no excuse for her other than not having to tell the truth i mean why should she if she doesn’t have to right ?
Sabrina,
When is this brat going to crack? Does she realize the longer she waits to tell what happened to Caylee the more people hate her.
I still want to hear from the other mothers that used Zenaida as their child’s nanny.
well hello kris i missed you last night and didn’t fully understand…thank you for clearing it up for me and welcome back…oh believe me i know just how insensetive a man can be, been married 23 yrs…anytime you need to vent just know i’m here for ya !
sabrina, Can you ship your ears to me in a crate…lol.
and i hope your next sugery will be a success ! i know when i became diabetic my hubby tried to blame me for christ sake i swear i think he’s retarded, that’s just men for ya…why do you think my hubby sleeps in the guest room ! LMAO !
This one is extremely militant…”No EXCUSES!”
I was just not myself last night..and all this weighing in on me. I feel better having had a good night sleep.
any way kris glad you’re back ! we need you to break the tension with your humor, this casey case gets to intense at times
kris boot him to the guest bedroom, worked wonders for me lol
Yeah…I see I tried to catch up on some of the posts today. But it took a long time to read. I think she is just going to keep going throught that revolving door at the jail and leaving again. They need to charge her for the big one.
If I was able to write a book about him and all he puts me through… people would think it was fiction. It’s just too far fetched to be real. Even though I know first hand it is.
i think so too kris,or at least for damn thing, they can always pile on more charges when she gets out, but while she’s in prison she can learn some hard knock lessons
Kris,
I am so sorry. I will keep you in my prayers.
I too have a husband that is not too senitive to my needs. I am going through chemo, but my husband still thinks I’m super woman. I have a large family, and they are my support group. I vent out my anger to them all the time, and they always listen. Just want you to know if you need to vent go right ahead. We are all here for you.
Who is the person in charge of dictating that she not be put into the general population? This is one thing I can’t understand. Even if they beat her so bad that she became maimed or died…who cares? She isn’t going to give up anything anyway, she hasn’t so far. So who would miss her?
oh kris i know exactly what you mean, no one would believe me either, everyone thinks my hubby is a wonderful man, they just don’t know him like i do, he;s completely different to outsiders puts on the good guy mask to outsiders
Thanks Catherine, I just want the surgeries to stop. And I know that I am “fixable”, it’s just a gut feeling I have given my problems. I can’t wait on them hand & foot when I come out and this is something they find hard to accept. They are all about themselves. My aunt said that this is the reason she thinks he found me is because I am the opposite and care too much for others, and people like that tend to take advantage easily and people for granted. Sort of like monster does.
catherine & kris you both are worse off than me healthwise so you both hang tight good things will come your way
Sabrina, I once forgot about a load of laundry being wet in the machine…and he freaked about it. Said it was a waste to have to rewash it again (everyone has things happen when their exhausted). So my punishment was that I could not use the washing machine for a week, he rigged it so that I was unable to start it. That is psycho! If I was in better health I would up and leave, thought about it many times but I get vertigo real bad in the mornings and fevers middle of the night to 102.
sabrina hey i got sidetracked if you want i canget the address only take a minute.i didnt hang around at ants very long .although i wish i knew what room was monsters.lol.
you both listen to me ok, if my hubby makes a mess it stays that way, i don’t wash his clothes rarely make him dinner, never clean his bathroom lol…he’s on his own and better not complain…that’s my lesson for today ! hope you guys took notes LOL
ah, sharon i don’t want the adress i thought we could make sugestions for you to send the letter lol
I’ll add it to my ledger I’m keeping. lol! Got many a story I’m keeping in mine already.
Kris,
As I said, we are supposed to be super woman. I’m going to get a shirt with SW on it.
Sabrina,
I feel very lucky believe it or not. Years ago there was no chemo, and people just died.
what time do you see ng i see it at 10.00
kris my hubby broke my eye socket three yrs ago, i had his back against the wall for a long time i had him begging cause i could have pressed charges, since then he steers clear of me…you should start documenting this stuff your hubby does
NG first comes on at 7:00 then every other hour for rest of the night till 2:00 AM
Anyway, Just one thing I wanted to mention…I spoke today with a friend of mine. He is the head pathologist at the hospital and has worked on many autopsies (both natural deaths, as well as murders). He was discussing the Dna testing with me regarding anything that would have been found with the equsearch team, and the way he explained it was that with that type of testing depending upon the state of decay or what was actually found (of the remains), it could take up to 3 weeks to get a positive id. He explained it much more clinical than I can, but it did make sense, so how long ago was the find from equsearch?
Baez is accusing the state of trying to intimidate him and accusing the FBI crime labs of trying to frame Casey. He is going to try to get the DNA results thrown out. It is absolutely ridiculous.
i didn’t know equusearch found anything ??? what was it ???
Concerned about Caylee said,in September 16th, 2008 at 8:46 pm Baez is accusing the state of trying to intimidate him and accusing the FBI crime labs of trying to frame Casey. He is going to try to get the DNA results thrown out. It is absolutely ridiculous.
I don’t think there is anyway he can do this legally. And if there is and I’m wrong. I don’t think anyone in there right mind about this case will honor that. He is a jerk.
concerned i heard that on NG, it won’t happen
sabrina said,in September 16th, 2008 at 8:47 pm i didn’t know equusearch found anything ??? what was it ???
Sabrina, I heard they were down playing it as animal bones and some clothing nearby it. But noone believes it…even NG from what i heard but if it truly was animal bones (for sake of speculation) , I think that would have been formally announced by now.
i thought that was the police searching after equusearch left, i must be mixed up
Concerned,
Soundslike the
O.J. case.
Hi Kris,
I just jumped back on-line and had seen your message to everyone.
First, I am so sorry to hear that you have to go back through the whole surgery thing again. You mentioned it the other day (Sunday, I think).
Health concerns certainly trumps all else. I didn’t find you offensive yesterday at all. In fact, it must of been crazy mojo in here, because, I think I may have ticked off one particular person and still don’t know what I did.
Regarding men, I think you are extremely curageous to say what you did about your guy, and I’m glad that you have a forum in here and with us where you can be totally honest about those things… I’ve been in a situation, with someone like that moons ago. I think I have some of my grays from him. Remember to not forget to put yourself first. You need to, your health really depends on it… they say that stress, brings on illness (physical).
This site is welcoming to you, and to everyone.
I’m here if you need to chat, as well.
I can say that I have had 99.9% wonderful experience in here and really like 99.9% of all those that I met. There was one that I didn’t care, but they haven’t been on in sometime…
i also thought they found those after the search team left it was 2 guys searching on there own
Also wanted to state why I believe they would have made the determination already about it being animal bones. It is because in the other case I’m following (Madeleine Mccann), there was a time when a wealthy lawyer in Portugal put up his own money to have divers search near a reservoir for Madeleine based on a tip (which I don’t believe because I am very certain she is alive)…anyways they uncovered a bag of bones and some cord or twine and it made big news all the papers “remains of Madeleine possibley found by Lawyers search team”… two (2) days later they were determined to be bones from a bag of puppies that were thrown in the reservoir to drown them. So those results were processed and determined pronto…and released quickly to the public. So I think equsearch is on to something that is why they pulled out.
Thanks for the post Amy…It helps when you need something to lift your spirits. I still have to bring myself to tell him soon.
Kris, Baez is a jerk but he can legally get evidence thrown out if the judge agrees that it is not tested properly or if it tainted.
Nancy Grace was reading from a motion Baez made to the court regarding the DNA evidence.
The state may be afraid the DNA evidence may be thrown out and that may be why they are trying to find a body before they file any murder or homicide charges against Casey.
Of course, we all hope Baez isn’t successful and she doesn’t walk.
I think the state will build a solid case before they charge her with anything regarding Caylee’s death.
kris it’s easy to determine animal bones from human bones so that the bones would have been excluded quickly, so now thinking there’s something to it, perhaps why equusearch stopped yet today NG said more searching, also police team continued to search behind school after equusearch left
They found some bones in a forest area in Ocala. The police were called, and they took them to the lab. This happened yesterday found it on Ocala news. The area is not far from Mt. Dora where C. parents live.
oh wow catherine i hadn’t heard that
Catherine you are so funny when you say you are still waiting for the mothers of the two children Zenaida watched to step up.
You mean the fictional mothers of the fictional children of the fictional Zanny the Nanny. Maybe they are in the book she borrowed the name from.
Concerned, I thought when I seen Baez on the news once that his beef was with the evidence being tested at the “body farm”, and that it was a newer type of testing. He seemed to poo poo it and I thought that was what it was all about then. Even back in the early 80’s they poo poo’d Dna testing when it was new and unheard of, then low and behold it caught on and now is the main basis for almost all convictions in the U.S. …I guess my point is for Baez’s comment is that everything has to originate somewhere and if they have a clinical rational way to explain how their testing works then it should be used and eventually accepted. This was what I thought his beef was about…Maybe I’m wrong..I could be I don’t catch everything.
sheesh bones everywhere around that place, i thought the bones equusearch found was a racoon i hear so much it’s hard to remember everything, i’m way to obsessed with this case, listening and reading everything and blogging half the day and night
sabrina said,in September 16th, 2008 at 9:00 pm kris it’s easy to determine animal bones from human bones so that the bones would have been excluded quickly, so now thinking there’s something to it, perhaps why equusearch stopped yet today NG said more searching, also police team continued to search behind school after equusearch left
That could possibly be a ploy sabrina, or even possibly based on an incoming tip. Like maybe something Casey discarded..or searching for her lost phone. I don’t think they would want the media or the Ants tipped off that remains were being tested until they get the arrest warrant for murder.
Concerned,
Yes there the only mothers that are going to step forward. Mother Goose, Dorothy from the Wizard of OZ just to name a few.
ah ha, i get it now kris, well i hope that is the case, i want this to be over and start the trial for death penalty, i’ll be watching tru tv everday !
Gonna hop in the shower real quick..I’m freezing! I was outside painting the front deck when I got home from work and can’t get the chill out. I’ll be back in a bit….
Kris, in the court papers Baez filed he is challenging all the DNA testing in all the labs. He is saying the crime labs are biased and he wants an expert to be there when any tests are done. It’s a common move with defense attorneys. They always challenge the evidence. His motion will probably be thrown out.
Be right back.. time for soup!
hello again, was reading about the bones. at first i didn’t think it could be the little one, but we wont know for a few weeks.
has anyone heard what items were bought on momsters shopping spree?
when they found those bones they also found another small part along with a few fillet knives and a flashlight
flashlight would indicate who ever did this, it was done at night
ok kris, yeah catherine alice in wonderland is what this family reminds me of right through the looking glass
BB better watch how he bad mouthed the police. The more BB talks the more the police are getting to him. Little no name BB from Kissimee going against the FBI and the Orange County Police Dept. Wait till they nail his ass to the cross and send that bsby killer to death row.
eeewwweee easy going ! filet knives makes my stomach turn ! omg what could some one be doing out there at night with filet knives, puts in my mind ed gein or dahmer, things of nightmares
sabrina,
LOl
sorry didn’t mean to make it sound yuckie 🙁
if they do find that this remains is caylee the momster had help
LOL catherine doesn’t that make your butt hurt ? does mine LOL…but as bad as i think casey is i just can’t see her slicing and dicing that baby…now makes me wonder if casey sold the baby to some sicko, hope there was no camp fire close by…who’s that other sicko guy in russia i think the red ripper would eat his victems
but why more then one knife though ??? it’s creepy oooh my skin is crawling and my mind is freaking out hairs on end makes one think something is terribly wrong with this picture…maybe not caylee but someone else maybe the torso in the river
tx chainsaw moved to fl ?
brb have to close my blinds and make sure all doors are locked, i’m scared now
Haven’t seen the Count, he’s laying low.
Did you notice how fast Beth Hollaway left Orlando. She met the Ant’s and knew M. killed Caylee, and ran not walked back to looking for Natalie. It probably makes her sick that M. knows where Caylee is buried, and here she is still looking for poor Natalie.
ok doors locked blinds closed i feel safer now…catherine i didn’t know beth was there, i feel so sorry for her, she is a mother the ants could learn how to act from or how to feel about their grandchild
Hi Every one………trying to get caught up on todays happenings. That Juan Be azz make me literally ill. I’d like to bit*h slap him too……..I’m just evil. The way he holds hands with the monster just like in High school. Maybe they’ve traded class rings…….. Maybe somethings else too.
Didn’t one lawyer on NG say they have enough evidence to charge her with manslaughter? If so I wish they would. I like this board ….you all are so informative and have such good opinions, I’m gonna stick around if no one minds.I might not post too much but I’ll be around.ok?
seems everyone cares more about caylee then any of the ants, perfect strangers care more
Mmmmmm….Now I feel good. Hot shower, comfy clothes (sweats), extra warm socks and a cup of coffee…I’m ready to go!
a lot in here thinks caylee is buried? why? momster only had the shovel for a few hours, not enough time to dig a hole. i believe the little one was tossed somewhere
i’m only asking this for your thoughts, not get get anyone excited and boot me out : )
hi judy, i think there’s something going on with casey and baez too, it’s so weird when you see them what goofy looking grin on his fat face, like the cat that swallowed the canary, and casey swishing her tail with her shirt knotted up
And another thing I think about Be azz. He sounds like he got his law degree off of a cereal box. He can say some dumb things. He better not pizz off law enforcement around that area. When he needs them they just might not be too speedy getting to him. I’m sure he made some enemies today running off at the mouth like he was smart..!!
I think whatever she did with that baby, she is too confident. It had to be something which makes her think she’ll never be found.
easy going i to don’t see casey digging a hole or anything else for that matter such as bamboo, no way ! she wouldn’t pull a single weed, only time she breaks a sweat is dancing or doing boom boom
juducas, you’re right, it’s sickening…and I like your analogy to high school romance because that’s the look he has on his face…he is so smitten. Casey should start her own cult because apparently she is easily able to brainwash everyone around her.
you can find a web cam at big lots for twelve dollors.
Woman Accused Of Kidnapping Caylee Speaks Out!Homeless and without a job, Zenaida Gonzalez sat in her hotel room and took comfort in the arms of her youngest daughter.
Gonzalez has chosen not to show her face on camera.
does anyone find it strange that now she is speaking to the public, of course she is homeless and jobless – maybe looking for a dollar,
i say give her some of the money the ant’s have taken and give it to her since they ran her name and character through the mud
easy,
Your probably right. Tossed her right in the water. The shovel was used in the backyard.
I just think between the two of them (monster and BB) that they are both thinking of the benefits which will come from all this. To them it is a real money maker, and intrigue to see it all printed day in and day out in the papers. Someone compared monster to paris hilton earlier…maybe she thinks she can cut ahead of everyone in lines at the night clubs and tell the bouncers at the door..”Don’t you know who I am?” I can picture her doing this.
touche easy going they owe her big time, i think she should sue the ants
hi all, ok took me a LONG time to read all the blogs since this morning. I did catch NG tonight and of course i had already heard the whole interrogation, and I just have to say the more I am listening to the tapes, the more I am thinking schizophrenic? becasue if you listen to her replies to the questions shes not even making any sense whatsoever… I don’t know I am now worried baez will pull an insanity defense. what do you all think? gotta put my baby to bed be back in a few, and, not surprised at the jail release.. nothing surprises me at all.
oh another impression
when i saw the monster walking out this time in the glasses smacking gum, I thought she thinks shes like this famous movie star.. so pathetic. her reality of this situation wont hit until the jail doors close for good… like i said i worry tho that baez is letting her talk and glad this is all airing, because what better wya to say my client is NUTS and cant be held accountible.. and believe me he doesn’t have ANY thing for a defense for her in my opinion.
kris i think i’m the who compared casey to paris hilton because of how they walk, i think casey tries to do the walk
Your dead on sabrina…they’re both spoiled snots. Although Paris’s revolving door at the jail only spun around 1 time. Lol.
Does anyone remember Padilla saying that there was a whole day that Caseys phone wasn’t on. He said it wasn’t like her because she ususlly made 25-50 calls a day. If theres a whole day missing she could have taken Caylee a long way away. I feel maybe she has. But just my oponion….
hi pammy, i don’t know much about schiztoprenia only what i’ve seen on tv, casey doesn’t seem to act like that, not to me anyway
You could have something there juducas…although I don’t think it would be because she was smart enough to realize they could trace her cell phone pings that day. She just didn’t want to be inconvenienced while choosing her daughter grave.
And Paris has about 50 million dollars more than M. so she doesn’t have to steal.
that’s right kris…judy could be right, casey said she feels in her heart that caylee was close but seeing how she lies they might be better off looking far away
oh and the strut her and paris have in common, only casey doesn’t quite have it down lol
juducas,
Yes, I do remember the BH saying that.
Hi gals….
How did you all like the hand holding today,pretty sick, heh? And Baez said “the polic arrested her because they can”…LOL…No, they arrested her because she committed a crime….huh, another one. Where the hell did he get his law license anyway, online from Podunk University?? He’s a joke to the legal community…
your right about the walk too. She seems to have a sache’ (don’t know if I spelled that right). I just think BB looks at her and sees dollar signs when he puts his arm around her, she looks at him like she just got another one hooked on her fishing line. I can’t even imagine him wanting to sleep with someone who is callous enough to have no consideration for human life. If so, he really must be bottom of the barrel, or someone who hasn’t got laid in a long time.
I blame C&G for Monster being the way she is. They have created this monster. She has no empathy for anyone, not even her grievibg parents. I still feel sorry for them but just because I know they loved little Caylee. You just can’t help but love the grand kids more, I don’t know why. It’s hard to explain. My typin g is goiinh to hell…..I took my sleeping pill and I’m veeeerrry looooopy.
LMAO @ mandi hi there…you to kris LMAO ! yeah sache’ is what i meant, but paris is much more professional with her sache’ casy just looks like a slut lol
Hey Kris, I don’t think he’s actually sleeping with her but just because I don’t think he can afford a sofa in his office yet…just perhaps a little Monica Lewinsky under the desk everyday….I mean he IS wearing a huge smile everyday lately…
Hi Mandi,
How BB can hold M’s hand, and hug her is beyond me.
i’m SO happy someone else has noticed that goofy grin on fat boys face
Think I’ll go buy and send him an expensive cuban cigar….
there might not be anything going on between them but i don’t think it’s because of lack of trying on casey’s part, and he’s so duh that he’s actually flattered
Hey Catherine…
Did you ever make it to the vigil incognito? LOL….
Hi Mandi, I think he just is trying to build confidence in her, so that she won’t have any reason to give him the boot. She is his gravy train.
I really don’t think the police are required to (and probably don’t want to) comment on every bone that is found. They don’t have to announce that the ones found in x place are animal or anything.
But IF the bones are human (which could probably be determined pretty quickly) it would take at least a little longer to determine the age of the person they came from (depending what bone, size, condition they were in). And if the bones are human and of a child then they’d have to conduct extensive, time-consuming tests to see if they are Caylees. Such tests can take weeks.
BoBo is just breathing hot air about the DNA tests. Other lawyers said he was jumping the gun by trying to have the tests stopped. It simply isn’t done at this stage. I mean his client is not even charged with murder yet for one thing. Also he must be the stupidest defense lawyer on earth not to know how top notch “the Body Farm” is. It’s extremely experienced and advanced. To question their results is like asking the Treasury Dept if they’re printing real bills or counterfeit.
BB is a blow hard idiot.
everyone who wants to send C a nicely phrased letter ?
You guys are a riot tonight, so glad to see everyone is doing well.
You know what get me, is that every 1/2 hour or so I’m checking google for new news on the case, and yet I’ve found nothing…
I saw on the web cam that there was a PD officer at the house for sometime….
What type of a letter sabrina?
LOL Kris…I won’t say what I want to about that! LOL…
Mandy….. Great minds think alike. I was absolutely going on those lines too. And she does have a walk……she thinks she soooo special……Give me a few hours with her…
woo hoo 2cents both thumbs up to you ! absolutely right spot on 100% !
I think she’s probably throwing herself at Turkey…
A man is a man to her… she has no other opportunity for conquests at this time and she probably see’s him as her protector and he see’s her as mohlahhhhhhhhh!!
do you notice in the interrogation she never once says even to defned herself. look guys i know this looks bad, or I know I’m looking guilty but please put out an APB on zaneida cause she does exsist she never even goe there to try a defense in the tapes.. weird you would think if and I’m say a BIG IF she was telling the truth she would be doing everything to get them to make them listen she doesn’t say antyhing, they just go round in circles which to me points to whacko nuts. but i guess this panel doesnt agree lol
each day in this case I get on something thats bugging me lol like the chloroform today its the tapes bugging me
Amy, do you find that webcam only works about 1/4 of the time?? The few times I’ve tried to look at it, it’s either an old pic or it’s not one or something….
Didn’t momster seem to think she was so special getting into turkey’s mercedes yesterday, so galm with those Jackie’o glasses…
I seem to go back and forth with C&G, from total hatred to sympathy (only because they loved Caylee). But I have noticed the toll it’s taking on them they both look alot thinner. I think anyone who is with a heart can relate to the pain end of what they must be going through. But the other side of me says..why haven’t they just knocked a few of those teeth out of there daughter long ago to get some answers! (oops sorry veneers).
Have you tried the myfoxorlando webcam… yesterday there were alot of problems with it today seems to work well :0)
I hear you Juducas…Hey Catherine, there are a few of us here that would love to come down there and well, you know, pay a monster a visit…will you be our tour guide? LOL….
oh i was thinking only kind words to write to C something to make her cry something like how often does she cry, how often does she go in caylees room, does she cuddle caylees teddy bear or lay on her pillow does the pillow still smeel like sweet like caylees sweet head that once layed there etc…
Mandi, And the web cam gets stuck sometimes. Like when it’s night it will be stuck on a shot taken in day time. Not dependable.
Hi Kris… glad to have you back… now everyone can polka!!!!
My son invited me over for dinner tonight so I just got back and read your 8:14 pm post. I’m so sorry to hear that you must go back for yet another surgery. I know that you’re a trooper and will get through this just fine. My prayers are with you.
Thankyou MMT…I think I am fixable if they ever get it right. Lol.
Yes, that’s the only cam I’ve ever known about….are there more Amy?
Hey, guess BB couldn’t rent that big black SUV with the pitch black windows again today….Hmmmm….they had to ride in an old pick-em-up truck…
do you guys think stuff like that would touch C’s heart at all ?
Mandy….. Great minds think alike. I was absolutely going on those lines too. And she does have a walk……she thinks she soooo special……Give me a few hours with her…And Casey is a SLUT!!!!!
as far as is she doing baez yet ,lol.. couldn’t care less… care about what happened to a life a 3 year old precious life… we may never know even through a trial thats whats so sickening… someone told me today at work watching this case that they believe baez does know his client is guilty and is letting her act this way for a reason, …insanity defense…
sabrina said,in September 16th, 2008 at 10:18 pm do you guys think stuff like that would touch C’s heart at all ?
I think it may cause more pain. And if her snot of a daughter won’t speak out, it will make her feel all the more helpless with it.
At some point no matter how tuff the truth is, I would hope that C&G would insist on the truth in an effort to get caylee back home.
I totally understand the range of emotions… yesterday, when we thought that they found caylees bones… I had a experienced a range of emotions which may explain some of our reactions and sensitiveness.
For one, I felt very sorrowful that they found her bones confirming she was dead (I know she is, but the reality of it is tough).
Then I felt a lot of anger towards the whole camp for not smelling the coffee early on and trying to midigate the circus… yesterday was exhausting because of that…
Casey is a ho-bag, no doubt about that..
Well, it’s never damaged your sense of humor! I’m sure you keep the doctors and nurses laughing. Maybe that’s why they keep asking you back. (just kidding about that of course) Let’s hope that this time is the charm!
I’m going to try and catch up on reading some earlier comments. I may not join you guys tonight because I am soooooo sleepy! Zzz zzz
Can’t cry insanity pammyliz out one side of his mouth while he’s standing there making statements that she is talking but she absolutely does not know where her daughter is, and this is a normal family but an insane case, blah, blah, blah…not even logical to try & go there after all this time.
you’re probably right kris, i just thought it might make her want to shake the truth out of her daughter, slap casey and say how much she has hurt everyone and stop her lying…me too amy i was exhausted after all of that and went to bed early
OK, I just read how Zenaida’s life has been ruined by Casey. She lost her job and is homeless now. I can’t believe it…Casey gets star treatment, The ants get rich, and Zenaida and her children lose everything. And Jose just smiles and complains that everyone is picking on Casey. I think I have to go throw up now.
Her parents (mainly C) has said to a reporter that Momster acts like any 22 year old…
At 22, I was out of college and working to pay off my college bills…
I know that we as a group keep going back and forth with anger then sympathy for the Ants (my earlier post)…but does anyone now feel that they maybe out of the loop? Meaning we all had suspicions at one time they may have played a role in helping monster. Does everyone feel differently now because of the toll we see it’s taking on them. We all can relate to their grief over this, but do you think they did not help now in any way with covering?
Mandi,
No the vigil was at midnight. I think we should try and get into the courthouse when she goes on trial. They usually save some seats for the public. Now,I would enjoy being the tour guide for that trip.
I almost can’t hardly stand to see her on my tv set to be honest…its like the paris hylton thing, only this is real, not fairy tale land.. this case will be talked about for years to come, they will show all the old reels of her acting this way..does anyone here remember an old case years back of a mom who had i believe 2 children, and in the night she claimed that an intruder or someone broke in and killed the two kids (babies) and she got injured but she lived? anyways she had them going on this too… young mom… anyways i forget the whole case now i just remember they got on to her story something about the wounds on her conflicted with the living room and the childrens wounds, and then they way she acted, she actually showed up at the childs grave and had a birthday party for the dead child? and they were (police) filming her at the gravesight, with silly string and all? anyone remeber it yet? anyways they did get her went to trial, convicted her…in the end.. she was smiling and throwing a party right at the grave, no crying , and this tape was a key piece of evidence… she still proclaimed she didnt do it, the motive I believe was a man she was dating didn’t want kids…
Thanks, MMT!
That’s horrible for Zenaida’s family, I didn’t know about that, but seems likely. How many lives does she need to ruin to support these live, mis-truths, half-truths or any other way her camp wants to explain it.
I do think however, no one not even C,G,&L are not vulnerable from her potential of pulling them down in all of this…
Catherine you have a date! I have already decided I want to go down there during the trial at some point….even if we just manage to get in for a day…
I remember that one pammyliz…I think I even read the book on it. It was just so bizarre. Her name may come to me….
Kris,
I think BB told the Ant’s that they have to stand by their daughter, but I think it is killing them. They know deep down what their daughter did to Caylee.
kris to some degrees i do feel sorry for them, then anger takes over, it is a see saw thing, i think empothy fades when the ants lash out and attack peole like equusearch etc…then i can only imagine if were them what i would be going through, then again i think of what i know i would be doing if in the predictament, it’s hard to feel sorry for them, i mean look how casey turned out and look at how they enable her, they know her they know what a liar she is, denial is no longer an option hmmm i’m probably gonna regret posting this lol
Pammyliz, you are speaking of the Darlie Routier case in Texas…
Kris, I do think that at least C possibly played a roll in some type of cover up initially.
And now, I think they do know, and won’t say…
Now that you bring up that case pammy… being correct that they did use the video from the b-day party at the grave site for evidence. It makes me think some of the protesters should design and wear a beanie cap with a webcam on top whenever Casey goes out. Catch some of her bizarre behavior too.
I just read that this case is evedentually causing a backlog in the court system. Several cases have been pushed back a couple of months. Some officers aren’t making their depostions in other cases and DNA from other cases are been pushed back too.
yah I specifically remember the silly string tape..something about she either shot them, no i think stabbed and stabbed herself even to make it look legit, and i remember it took a long time to get her, but they watched her and stuff..i saw the tapes at the grave and the party she was acting insane…theres so many cases likes caseys out there, we dont talk about them cause they never got this coverage… me being a court tv follower i remember many cases of moms killing kids. never this bizarre tho, since jon benet really.. not very often do they say kidnapping…
Mandi,
It’s a date.
But it had nothing to do with a man and him not wanting children…she was/is married to the children’s father and to this day, he backs her 110%.
pammy, the tapes are bugging me today too. I’m trying to imagine, if my daughter was missing, at no time would I EVER be worried about my mother forgiving me for it. My mother wouldn’t cross my mind except for how she could help me find my baby. What she thought of ME would be the farthest thing from my mind. None of it makes any sense. I feel like I can’t stand to see Casey one more day prancing like a superstar, tying up little Caylee’s t-shirt, wearing big sunglasses, and chewing that gum!!!
Guys I’m gonna have to go to bed. I can hear it calling me…….Those Ambiens realllllly wooooook goooooood. Talk to all tomorrow. Sleep sweet…….and tight
I want to go to the trial, too… count me in. I’ll go, you can count on it…
Mandi said,in September 16th, 2008 at 10:30 pm Pammyliz, you are speaking of the Darlie Routier case in Texas…
I believe thats the girl Mandi.
Nighty night, juducas!
pammy i remember that her name is carla or darla something like that, yep her 2 out of 3 boys were killed and her chawing gum and squirting silly string on their graves, disgusting ! casey does remind me of her
good night judy
yes thats it! thats her name!!! she was blonde and actually killed 2 babies.. i believe thats in texas and i believe shes on death row… so casey is the next one on death row..i think monsters most daming ( spelling)..lol damaging stuff against her so far. is first her behaviour, not looking since shes been out, I mean she and jose could at least ride around town makiing it look as if their looking. lol and the tapes to me the tapes are what is gonna bury her..they get her to admit she lied before that tape is turned off… and basically about everything
Looking forward to it Catherine…
Why would the judge tell M. not to have any contact with Amy? You don’t think she tried to apologize to Amy, and hope that Amy would drop the charges.
The picture at the top of this blogg today – in my opinion looks like she was acknowledging her parents. She looks like she’s putting her little girl face on and liking the fact her parents are suffering..
IMO
The difference is though, she did cry at times, very unlike monster…and I have to say that case definitely had some gray areas….
Cat, I sure do think she’s been trying to get in touch with amy and who ever to try gag them. I bet Amy was contacted by either her parents or attny… She wouldn’t have done it herself, her attny wouldnt have that, but he would ask C,G,&L possibly..
Very telling statement, just like the scott peterson where amber fry had her phone tapped, I bet Amy H. had the recordings as well…
yes she was chewing gum, and I wasn’t sure what they said the motive was, I’m jogging my very old memory. your right I think she was married, so i’m lost on what the motive was that they did get her on…maybe it was life insurance??
Does anyone know if they have to go to court on the evidence they have so far without a body, can they still go for the death penalty? I am uncertain of this because I don’t really know any lawyers personally or have any in the family.
catherine i do believe she is trying to get amy to forgive the charges, but i also think the banks have charges against her too oh well little to late
Kris, on NG tonite, one lawyer said the most they could get right now was Manslaughter…no death penalty for that. But I don’t know if his answer is absolutely right.
Good Q: Kris, I think they do, they have something like 60 days from the day that each charge that dropped..
girls gonna get off for a bit, need to stretch my legs been here a long time, i might get back on later, if not i’ll see ya tomorrow…bye bye
yah she did cry at times, I’m remembering now even the husband like you said, they were an affluent family, doing ok, and there didnt appear to be any reason she would do this, but the wounds or something is what tipped them off…or brought her in…
yah she did cry at times, I’m remembering now even the husband like you said, they were an affluent family, doing ok, and there didnt appear to be any reason she would do this, but the wounds or something is what tipped them off…or brought her in…
Pluto, so, maslaughter may not get death, but how about life in prision?
pammyliz said,in September 16th, 2008 at 10:38 pm yes she was chewing gum, and I wasn’t sure what they said the motive was, I’m jogging my very old memory. your right I think she was married, so i’m lost on what the motive was that they did get her on…maybe it was life insurance??
In the Routier case it was unclear for motive, but believed to be financial trouble due to their lavish lifestyle. The huband owned a small business they owed back taxes, drove a jaguar and had a boat etc…prosectuters believed it was thought that it was for financial reasons that she rid herself of the two boys. So they wouldn’t have to provide for them. This was just the prosecuting theory.
Dakduke,
Don’t come in here and start, ok. Talking about backlogs,who fault is that? I’ll tell you who, it’s that lying baby killer. If she told the police where she put Caylee’s body, we could move this trial right along, and get that needle ready to inject into her vein.
Then the police can handle the backlog of cases that are piling up due to this lying little b-tch taking up their time. Forty two times police went to the Anthony home. Now that is a waste of tax dollars. Put her ass back in jail and take care of the backlog of cases.
nope not with manslaughter, it is a much lesser charge really, to me anyways, its like if someone drinks and drives and hits someone and kills them while drunk,…… manslaughter
By sabrina.
You have to know and understand the town in which the trial was held (change of venue)….very small rural, good ole boy town and here was this cheap, trampy looking city dweller from Rowlett, TX. (a suburb of Fort Worth)…I know it’s not suppose to matter but I definitely think the cards were stacked against her…
To this day there are a lot of people that still think she is not guilty…family aside of course.
Catherine chill out I was coming here to start trouble just giving some new info on the case. i think you got a problem with me and for what reason I don’t know but get over it.
yes you have jogged my memory, lol i thought they were affluent… and some even said she was a good mom etc… and husband too… i just thought back on that case as this one is just as bizarre…
Dakduke your always coming in here looking for an argument, why don’t you takethe hint, and leave.
Your right both cases are bizarre pammy.
I had to go see what catherine all riled up, but ditto to what she said.. ditto…
I personally sent an email to Mr. Baez’ law office to express my opinion in this case and his representation of Cindy and George. I was surprised to get a response from him (or so that’s what the email alleged. I don’t know how legit it was or if it was even from him but I am attaching a copy of my email and his response for anyone interested in reading it.
Dear Mr. Nejame:
Iv’e seen several of your interviews on tv already. I’m sure you have thousands of emails to go thru at this point, but thought I’d give it a shot anyway. First I’d like to say, I do believe that you are truly a nice person. Unfortunately, I believe that your being hired to represent the Anthony’s and their reputation is too little…..too late. The “grieving” grandparents have already showed America who and what they are by their actions on National Tv. I don’t think you will change anyone’s opinion by continuing to avoid questions that are asked of you as their “spokesperson”. If they have nothing to hide (as you say), then why not divulge information as to their previous actions?? America (including myself) have alot of unanswered questions about their actions and until we get some answers, we will still speculate they are involved in a coverup. You said yourself on TV they have done everything they can to “cooperate” as humanly as “possible”, but why would they not give EquuSearch an article with Caylee’s scent on it??????????? These people are in denial and you said that is part of the grieving process and “so what if they are in denial?”……….these grandparents have been in denial for 20+ years with their daughter and that is why Caylee is missing today!!! I don’t know how defense attorney’s can sleep at night…….
Mr. Nejame’s response:
Dear (my name left out intentionally),
Thank you for your thoughtful and honest email.
I really do understand your anger and frustration. However, so many opinions in this tragic matter have been based on speculation and not on facts. The Orange County Sheriff’s Department have determined that neither George or Cindy are “suspects” or “people of interest”. Please remember, Cindy initiated the police investigation when nobody else even knew Caylee was missing. Moreover, Cindy and George have spent countless hours and days meeting with law enforcement…without choosing to even have an attorney. Law enforcement has far more information than anyone else and to reject their conclusions is speculation at its worse.
Having been a defense lawyer for about 28 years…more about that later…I’ve come to a place that I’ve learned it not best to judge another. I simply believe that is for a Power higher than me. Unless one has walked in the shoes of another, how does one really know how they will act or react to a given situation. I know few parents who would believe that the daughter they raised would be capable of doing what many accuse Casey of. George and Cindy cannot fathom that Casey could do such a thing. More importantly, their beloved Caylee is gone. They continue to receive tips and leads as to Caylee and hold on to faith and hope that she will be found. Who is anyone to tell another when it is time for them to give up and relinquish faith and hope? God forbid, that someone else would have to go through the nightmare they are experiencing but unless one has,
You jump to the conclusion that the Anthony’s enabling of Casey is what led to Caylee’s disappearance. Respectfully, you don’t know this and evidence would suggest otherwise. Regardless, It is my belief, that this type of rampant speculation is counterproductive to finding Caylee. It pits one side against another and distracts from the task at hand of finding Caylee. Although your opinion is to be respected and you surely are entitled to it, I would ask that you consider more compassion for George and Cindy, who want to find Caylee more than anyone in the world does. Just because they’ve not behaved as you think one should or you think you might doesn’t mean they’ve done anything to deserve the loss of their beloved granddaughter.
As to the defense attorney part…I’m honored to be a defense attorney and I do sleep quite well at night. I have taught law enforcement for years, teaching officers how to do a better job. I’ve gotten many people acquitted or charges dropped who turned out to be innocent…I promise you there is no better feeling. I’ve assisted many clients and their families get into treatment, either for drug/alcohol addiction or get into therapy for family related issues. I’ve rooted out bad cops and complimented and assisted good ones. I’ve stopped overzealous prosecutors from abusing their position. Additionally, I have helped maintain the Constitution which allows us to have this dialogue and disagreement of opinion. Without defense lawyers holding the State to their burdens under the Constitution, excesses would continuously occur which jeopardizes the liberties of all of us. With all of this said, I’m not so naïve to believe that I don’t at times represent bad people and that I also have gotten many off. However, the blame for that usually rests on the police or prosecutor for not doing their jobs right, rather than on me. They are required to prove someone guilty beyond a reasonable doubt before the presumption of innocence can be lifted and one convicted. When they mess up, it is not right to blame the defense lawyer…so long as it is an honest and ethical one…for having done their Constitutional duty.
I thought that your email deserved the respect of an equally thoughtful and honest response. Regardless of your thoughts hereafter, let’s agree that we all need to keep Caylee in our blessings and have hopes that there may be a positive outcome to this most sad of tragedies.
Respectfully,
Mark E. NeJame
Dak…Do you really still think she is innocent? Truthfully after everything?
How do you figure I come on here trying to start an argument. I’m not saying anything that isn’t report on the news. I don’t know what you have against me but sounds personal and I rufuse to argue and will not leave. I have a right on here.
Your right I do have a problem with you. I think you like to stir the pot. I would prefer you not talking to me.
Night, sabrina, see you tomorrow!
I haven’t come on here and said anything that satrted an arguement. The last thing I came on about was the bracelets earlier and there was no argument and I really hate it when people assume things.
Catherine, I’m so glad you said that about the waste of taxpayer’s money and the 42 times they’ve been called out to the Ants house! And the ants themselves have placed most of those calls! Do they not have any shame on what this is costing their own city & neighbors?? Disgusting….they are total control freaks though and their mostly calling just to turn the knife in to the OSCO and to say…”see, see we’ll cause you just as much trouble as you are causing our daughter”….you know that’s their mindset.
Did you see my post Dak? I’m just curious where you stand now?
I think sometimes if we and the media all went away would things change? then I think no, shes never talking, if I had had to endure that interrogation and i had been guilty they would have got me.. lol.. her? i cannot believe how she sat there and never once defended herself, other than i told you i last saw caylee…. thats it, she never said let me describe her, she never brought up times or events, she never said one time zaneida took all the kids to the zoo, NOTHING you would think she would be begging them to believe her with MORE DETAILS…. nothing just hm hm uh huh uh huh… yah yah yah guys, sorry, to me this is bizarre
Fine Catherine than stop commenting to me like you just did, and there won’t be any problems. Remember you started it this time not me.
Which post Kris.
What aka will you be using tonight?
Did somebody fart?
Sorry, ice breaker!
Catherine leave me alone especially if you don’t wnat me to start trouble thats not what I’m here for.
Hi Amy.
This post Dak…
Kris said,in September 16th, 2008 at 10:52 pm Dak…Do you really still think she is innocent? Truthfully after everything?
I have tried twice to post an email that I had personally sent to Mr. Nejame’s office and the response I received from him but it doesn’t show up……anyone able to tell me why??? Not sure it was actually from him but it was from his office and signed with his name???
No I don’t think she is innocent. She has defenitely did something wrong and she will pay.
I’m sorry but I have to say Dak, that is always what you are coming in here for and what you just said to Catherine sounds like a threat….I don’t even ask why you love to cause trouble because I don’t want to hear you jibberish either. But you do love start it…one way or another.
believe it or not in people I talk to about this case theres still some who havent heard abou tit nor watch tv, and when i tell them the story which is LONG.. lol.. some say to me, maybe there is a babysitter? and maybe thats why shes acting this way. again I do tell them about all the evidence as well.. and i see alot of people in my work day
Caylee has stolen America’s heart said,in September 16th, 2008 at 10:59 pm I have tried twice to post an email that I had personally sent to Mr. Nejame’s office and the response I received from him but it doesn’t show up……anyone able to tell me why??? Not sure it was actually from him but it was from his office and signed with his name???
It was probably set up with an automated response, because I’m sure he is probably getting alot of email and heat from the public. He probably uses now a private email just for people within this case that has to reach him. You could try to resend with a header reading , “Potential movie deal….Please read a.s.a.p.”. That might work. lol.
Folks, I love the passion that you all bring to the table…
Let’s get back to the scoop…
Caylee is somewhere out there and the person who know’s isn’t speaking…
The passion gets heated in here you can imagine what it must be like on hope spring drive.
Monster’s camp has done a brilliant job pissing everyone and their mother off, especially the FBI’s… one group you don’t want to piss off (IMO) is the FBI… They have good data, and I think her defense is getting nervous… I know I would be if I was a d.attorney..
back to the disagreement, please folks don’t leave 🙁 Let’s try to stay on this…
Fine then i can ignore people too. Everytime I do come in here I automatically get accused of wanting to satrt trouble which isn’t the case. Tell me one post that I put on here today that indicated I was trying to start trouble.
Amen, Mandi
Thank you Amy lets get back to what matters.
Kris, I think she’s trying to post it here on this blog for us to read….you may have to just tell us what it says CayleeHasStolenAmerica’sHeart…
yah I just ignore the blogs on here that are provoking, anything i say on here is just an opinion, and if we don’t agree thats whats cool, we just move on lol…
Kris, so sorry you need surgery again,
BTW did you get my post re getting a free website via geocities or other places too for yourself online as you had mentioned wanting to do a site for the Mccan girl??
Catherine, I pray you heal soon from your chemo, I am so sorry you have to go through this pain!
Snookums and Elle, I too have posted as recently as this morning how I feel the A’s are victims and have been for a long time with M. Also how we all here are obsessed with wanting Caylee to be found, we are brokenhearted too so sit here and write about it all in disbelief and in shock to an extent too. Caylee is the ultimate victim and I pray she is found, SOON….
All this talk of bones, Catherine – you say more bones were found just yesterday?? And NO word of the bones and clothing pack found some ten days ago when Equusearch pulled out… and the torso and body piece found last weekend, bloated and possibly could be a child but looks older??
I have been reading the blogs, and check in once or twice a day as alot of you already know. WE ALL WANT JUSTICE for Caylee!! I didn’t think much new was on NG tonight to chat about however.
Gonna go heat up my coffee…let me know when the fog lifts…lol.
Caylee HAs what did the message you get back say.
Very interesting, Kris!
I never thought about that.. I think I’ll send a message to his office too!
If the Foo sh_ts wear it!!
Kris, (lol) that was funny, never thought of that. But actually what I meant was I tried to post, both my personal email to Mr. Nejame and Mr. Nejame’s response back to me…. 3 times now on this blog, so everyone here could read it. It hasn’t posted any of the 3 times??????
Amy,
I totally agree with you. Little BB against the FBI. Give me a break!
cj said,in September 16th, 2008 at 11:05 pm Kris, so sorry you need surgery again,
BTW did you get my post re getting a free website via geocities or other places too for yourself online as you had mentioned wanting to do a site for the Mccan girl??
Thx, Cj… The website I wish to do would actually get me involved with starting an actual foundation of some kind. I feel so very compelled to helping in some way with these missing children as well as giving options to offer counseling assistance to the loved ones left behind to deal with this. This dream of mine goes way bigger than just a blog or small website. I have alot of thoughts floating around about it. But I would need to win the lottery for what I wish to do. It is almost like a feeling people get when they get a calling to do missionary work overseas. It is that strong in me. But thanks for the suggestion It was kind of you to want to help guide me.
the only thing that upsets me is the case.. period…don’t know why I am obsessing but I did it with other cases too.. this one has touched me because of the beauty of this child, seeing her face nightly, its haunting you know. and then listening to the person who was supposed to care for her well being, take care of her, protect her, is now in the limelight as a glorified movie star, just enough to make a person vomit over and over, thats how much this case touched me. but with all the people in this country rooting for justice, poor caylee will be put to rest at peace. as laci and her unborn son were..not that the family of laci can ever go on hardly, but justice was served, somewhat in what they could do to him…God will take care of the rest on judgement day… and if by some miracle there really is some truth to anything she said and someone has this baby or is hiding this baby, then my god, it would be a miracle…and i think its what we would all wanna hear right now. brekaing news, they found caylee…
Caylee has stolen America’s heart said,in September 16th, 2008 at 11:06 pm Kris, (lol) that was funny, never thought of that. But actually what I meant was I tried to post, both my personal email to Mr. Nejame and Mr. Nejame’s response back to me…. 3 times now on this blog, so everyone here could read it. It hasn’t posted any of the 3 times??????
Oh….I thought you meant email, to give him a piece of your mind..lol. But I think the movie thing would probably work if that were the case.
cj,
Do you think all the talk of finding bones is just trying to get M. riled up?
I have a question. Isn’t it against the law to fire someone just because of their name.
At some point, I hope this passionate group will get together in FL to celebrate this going to trial… I know it’s eutopic to think, but, heck I’m originally from SF and were full of hippies here… Love the beat generation…
I know I’ve asked this a few times now, but does anyone here know if Monster & Jessie Grund actually went to the Beach that weekend? Because if they did, it’s just possible that Caylee could be there or at some point in between..I didn’t think they actually went but not certain, but that was supposedly after she abandoned her car but before she borrowed Amy’s car…so how was she getting around during that time?
yes I think it would be against the law for that to happen, but in todays day and age employers have the “at will” reasons for firing anyone.. don’t need a reason…
Only frustrating thing for me is when I do post there are so many new ones inbetween from others it’s hard to keep up unless you read through them all ahead of time, after you just posted for what was missed, consequently some people we ask questions to or comment from this blog don’t ever see it to respond, maybe they have left or never have time to read all the blogs, but guess we all have the same predicament here, think all are doing a great job with communication! HATS OFF TO ALL!
cj,
I appreciate yout kind words,and prayers.
No Catherine I don’t. I truly believe they found something. I think it is for real, and they are down playing it for M. sake right now. Just the opposite of getting her riled. A classic smokescreen, the illusionist once again displayes something that it’s not. (God! I’m starting to sound like Matthew James!)
Thats what I thought. The zenaida that LE questioned did another interview and said the she lost her job at the time because her boss told her they couldn’t let one name bring a company down.
Dakdude3: It’s toooo long to repeat but I’ve tried posting it 4 times. Maybe it’s too long for this blog or something? Mr. Nejame was very professional and his letter was quite lengthy, however, his explanation of the situation doesn’t change my opinion of Cindy and George being in denial for the past 20+ years. I was actually surprised I received a response from him personally…..(but then again, maybe it wasn’t from him????? who knows????)
you all really believe they have found something? I missed alot of the blogging on that news
Cool I was just curious if maybe it was an e-mail delivery problem.
Kris,
I pray your right.
Mandi, interesting comment, you need to call that in to NG tomorrow, I’ve not thought of that….
dak, no I don’t think so…
Pammy, I agree, momster, thinks she’s a rockstar.. her maker will take care of her someday….
Cat., Hummm, I wonder, probably would explain the stress, not sadness, but stress in her face
i can believe employers doing that, they can be ruthless in my opinion… i thought i read somewhere on this blog someone say their brining her back in to question again, is this true?
I will try this another way. I will attach a copy of my email to Mr. Nejame and then I will send another blog with his response.
Dear Mr. Nejame:
Iv’e seen several of your interviews on tv already. I’m sure you have thousands of emails to go thru at this point, but thought I’d give it a shot anyway. First I’d like to say, I do believe that you are truly a nice person. Unfortunately, I believe that your being hired to represent the Anthony’s and their reputation is too little…..too late. The “grieving” grandparents have already showed America who and what they are by their actions on National Tv. I don’t think you will change anyone’s opinion by continuing to avoid questions that are asked of you as their “spokesperson”. If they have nothing to hide (as you say), then why not divulge information as to their previous actions?? America (including myself) have alot of unanswered questions about their actions and until we get some answers, we will still speculate they are involved in a coverup. You said yourself on TV they have done everything they can to “cooperate” as humanly as “possible”, but why would they not give EquuSearch an article with Caylee’s scent on it??????????? These people are in denial and you said that is part of the grieving process and “so what if they are in denial?”……….these grandparents have been in denial for 20+ years with their daughter and that is why Caylee is missing today!!! I don’t know how defense attorney’s can sleep at night…….
Ccatherine said;
“Do you think all the talk of finding bones is just trying to get M. riled up?”
The thought HAS occcured to be Catherine! Maybe they hope it will break her down, make her AND BB nervous…
I believe they found something. For certain. It just makes sense…Equsearch pulling out after that statement he made about Cindy Anthony something to the affect of,” Well if Cindy doesn’t like what were doing and where we’re looking that’s just too bad, we’re not going anywhere until we find Caylee.”
Hey Cj the bones they found the other day(torso) they did determine the weren’t from a child, as far the ones Equusearch found they haven’t released anything that I know of.
Caylee has stolen America’s heart said, in September 16th, 2008 at 11:16 pm
Dakdude3: It’s toooo long to repeat but I’ve tried posting it 4 times. Maybe it’s too long for this blog or something? Mr. Nejame was very professional and his letter was quite lengthy, however, his explanation of the situation doesn’t change my opinion of Cindy and George being in denial for the past 20+ years. I was actually surprised I received a response from him personally…..(but then again, maybe it wasn’t from him????? who knows????)
***Sorry to have to repost, but too much to write…
Caylee has stolen america’s heart:
Can you try posting it on our fellow friend website: IQ’s
Here’s can be found at
http://inquisitiveandcurious2.wordpress.com/2008/09/12/caylee-anthony-case/#comment-9
No pressure, if you don’t want too, that’s cool.. I think it will post there too…
Please let me know if you can’t see the attached link..
Wow Caylee Has very nicely put friendly but to the point.
yes that is a strong statement he made, and i believe if they did find something, they would definitely keep it quiet, definitely at this point in the case. or make absolutely dam sure before releasing such news or discovery… but in the peterson case when laci washed up they did release it right away, remember?
Ha, I see it is polka time. Finally figured that one out LOL.
I used to live in FLA(Indian River County) and remember how hard it was to dig there. The grass is so tough plus it does not take long to hit water when you dig. Plenty of water/lakes though. So I agree with previous posters that caylee is probably in water , or on the ground somewhere and not in the ground.
Monster is not like Paris. When Paris got out of jail ,she ran to her mother and gave her a big big hug ground. remember?
Catherine, you are welcome, I am so sorry hon.
Does anyone think that maybe she possibly dumped the body somewhere outside the local area, maybe a different sate.
is it just me? lol, or am I the only person who cannot stomach paris hylton? even hearing her name, watching her ridiculous entrances, what is she even famous for? I don’t know theres just some hollywood glam gals you love to hate, and her…I hate the sight of her…lol..
You’re right snookers…this one would never run to hug her mother. She is as coooool as a cucumber. The only hugging she will do is when it will lead to “The Nasty.”
Paris hilton, usless airhead heiress with no class. i can’t stand her either.
kris
lol you made me laugh at that last post..lol
Oh kriss now thats just wrong. I can just imagine C and monster doing the nasty how revolting, but funny
I’m watching NG again, and they are talking about donations for a defense fund for M. I would personally like to give her my donation,
a slap across the face. It would be worth the jail time I would get for assault & battery. I can afford to hire the Count to defend me. LOL
She’s just a skank. She has had more boyfriends than I think I can count. I don’t think I could have had a months worth of her boyfriends my whole entire lifetime.
Mandi,
No, Jesse Grund and monster did not go to the beach. I looked again at the narrative and Jesse statement. If somebody read the police narrative real fast, it might look like that but the beach going applies to nanny and caylee as told by monster to Jesse.
Dakdude: I will have to print a copy of the email Mr. Nejame sent back with my response and try to type it in here. I have tried to copy and post it in this blog as I did my email to him, but this blog isn’t accepting it…don’t know why? I’ll get back to you on Mr. Nejame’s response soon.
I would really laugh my a** off too but My mood tonight is on a constant change(possibly bipolar).
i just never followed her really, but see her from time to time maybe people who are fans could tell me more about her bio but i just never understood who she is? who cares who she is? and the sight of her, shes comical really… she waltzs in on someones arm looking quite ridiculous.. and there are far more actresses and beauties out in hollywood, who dont even carry on like that and could and get way with it..lol
I never meant C Dakdude. Men yes, but not C. Get that mind out of the gutter. lol.
Okay Caylee.
maybe I’m just showing my age and younger people relate to her lol i dont know who she is but im sick of seeing her that I do know
Sorry Kris its a guy thing (Haha). By the way isn’t skank to nice a word for her.
I don’t see why anyone would want to relate to her.(UGH)
kris
your killing me tonight lol lol
kris
your killing me tonight lol lol
You have an echo….to your posts pammyliz. lol.
kris
still chuckling at your posts..lol you lightened up our mood in here…
Why would anyone want to contribute to the defense fund. Give the money to LE to help cover the OT the officers have been pulling in this case.
All I can say is thank god I’m off tommorrow. I’m having a good time chatting in here.
I didn’t think they actually went either Snookers but wanted to clarify it.
What remains a mystery to me is how monster got the name of THAT Zenaida that went to the Sawgrass Apts. on 6/17 to look at an apt….either she actually saw her and her car there and got one of her “cop” boyfriends to run her license plate, or, she knows someone that lives/works there and they know more then they are telling….because it’s just way too coincidental.
actually anytime i hear the word “skank” I laugh because i’m from the old generation and we said different words, and lingo, when my nieces refer to someone as a skank, its funny to me it means to me someone really really nasty or in the old days we said scuzzy, or scummy, slut was another lol
Maybe someone should start a donation to the OPD to help with the searches and all. Just a thought.
Dak, That is only her lawyer who wants to set up that defense fund…He is all about the money. I can’t see anyone wanting to contribute, but I guess it takes all kinds to make the world go round.
making sure noone is ignoring me..lol lol its my mouse i think its acting up and clicking twice… did you hear me i said i think its acting up, and cliking twice lol lol
making sure noone is ignoring me..lol lol its my mouse i think its acting up and clicking twice… did you hear me i said i think its acting up, and cliking twice lol lol
I agree Mandi way to coincidental.
LOL-folks!
Dak, Skank great name 🙂 A perfect fit for M.
Re: P.Hilton – I’ve seen her, size 13 shoe, big ol’ goofey feet – Not impressive…
I can say I’ve kissed alot of frogs but not as many as M… and I’m 15 years older then she is 😉
Hey Pammy been drinking tonight. (hah)
pammyliz said,in September 16th, 2008 at 11:38 pm actually anytime i hear the word “skank” I laugh because i’m from the old generation and we said different words, and lingo, when my nieces refer to someone as a skank, its funny to me it means to me someone really really nasty or in the old days we said scuzzy, or scummy, slut was another lol
When were you born pammyliz…just wondering if your from my era or not. (God era, made that sound like were getting old.lol)
Kris, I see what you are saying, you wouldn’t have enough room for the kind of site you want and need with the free ones, they are so limited in space.. I wish you the best with this in any case.
Dak, I thought they said it was a young adult and weren’t sure but it’s ruled out for sure?
Mandi, only based on what I know, M’s phone was turned off ALL day one day, maybe thats the day she went to the beach?? Padilla had said it was the ene dof June and normally she would make 25-50 calls per day..
oh this is so slow loading for me I am behind with comments, sorry.
Dakdude3 said,in September 16th, 2008 at 11:40 pm Hey Pammy been drinking tonight. (hah)
Dak, If I put my ear to your head can I hear the ocean! Didn’t you read what happened to her double click mouser! Get with the program bub!
Yeah Cj defenitely ruled out. They are defenitely finding alot of bones in Florida. Of course mostly animals.
CayleeHasStolenMyHeart,
Great email!
Yeah Kris I got it was just trying to be funny which doesn’t happen very often.
you have to ask kris, lol I will be turning 46 in a few weeks, ( and yes new mom at this age first and only baby) shes 3 now..anyways all these new words are funny to me I go with them so i will be cool you know lol and with it.. lol i have three young nieces who teach me adn work with alot of young girls who teach me, but yah words like skank were not said hoe is another lol… meanings are always the same tho.. so when i hear skank i know its meaning lol
Either that or its just old age(kidding)
no, not me.. its the mouse or the blog too long. and yes it could just be age…lol
Wow Pammy baby at 43 thats great. Goes to show you are never too old.
Your right around my age pammyliz I was born in 65. I had my only daughter later in life she is now 4 years old. We have alot in common. Don’t tell me your favorite band from your era would be mine…”The moody blues”.
Who asked what ‘era’ we are from,
mine is the 5o’s, man time goes quick!
The old age thing I was referring to me as being old.
Well, busy next couple of days for me, so I’m going to go wrestle with the sheets!
Nytol….
Hey Kris you born the same year as me.
Kris,
I am laughing so hard I am falling off my chair.
Goodnight Mandi
What’s your favorite band from our day, Dak ?
Actually its been so long I don’t think I really had one.
Of course I guess it depends on which year(s) you mean.
By Mandi!
lol mine would be good old aerosmith, nugent and elton john, oh god, I can even go back further, heart, abba lol I am young at heart and me and my daughter do jam to this music still to this day and she just LOVES when mama puts on her music and we dnace like mad… i played this silly OLD tune the other day dioone warwick what the world needs now and she actually started singing with me. I thought i better not let the nieces see this or they’ll accuse me of making my liz a dork child…lol lol lol she will always grow up with my old fashioned ways sad to say lol
hey nothing wrong with being a dork child, atleast not to me.
I use to be excellant with oldies trivia..My friends and I use to go out years back and sit purposely near the Dj booth, just because they knew I could answer all the questions and win a t-shirt or hat for everyone in the group.
Nite, Mandi
Mandi,
Good one, running of license plate for name.
All monster had to do is write the license plate number down an d ask one of her cop friends to check it out later. while working on her elaborate story. Wonder if they keep records at the police of such request by their deputies.
The only reason I donot like Paris Hilton is because she bought a puppy from an expensive pet shop and puppy came from a puppy mill.
I detest puppy mills, almost as much as monster.
I am still a dork…lol but yah being a mom at this age is the greatest thing ever, i never even really knew what life was about ( other than all about me me me) until she came to me, and life hasnt been the same since. its a world i didn’t even have experience in other than the nieces growing up, so i’m finding each day is a new thing watching her, right now were having bevahiour issues, talking back, and daycare reports biting issues..i think the most amazing thing i have learned about kids as a mom, is this.. they mold right off of the parents, everything you are , do say is what they learn and become… which is kind of scary lol my daughter copies EXACTLY my every movement, mannerisms, how i sit, talk is the most amazing thing. and her not having her daddy, she is cloer to me than ever
I had a friend that dj’d clubs and dances. We use have lots of fun and I actually got do dj a dance my self. It was kind of funny though. It was pretty much and all black dance and I was the only white person there and was the one playing the music. Talk about pressure.
my fave band from my era might be
allman brothers band, saw them twice live in Boston, lol also saw jgeils, remember them anyone? they are from there actually, but i have lived west coast now over 30 years.
oh yeah at boston commons early 70’s they did alot of free shows, saw several, one that stands out now was a black funk group, can’t think of the name right now, darnit and also seeing ah the red haired gal, getting senile, no it wasn’t reba either, this gal sings sorta country pop and was married to an actor, drawing blanks, anyway she was live in a undergroud coffee shop, almost the hippie days, era 72’ish, memories. lol
Hey, I’m from the 70’s yet – you know the folks like the beegee’s, wings, santana, WHAM!
Pammy,
I think we must be close in age. I like the same music.
Yeah Pammy been there done that with the daycare and talking back with my son who is almost 5 and now I’m going to have to do it again with my daughter, but aleast with her I have a couple of years.
Ya know, even in my era I seemed to like even older music yet. Hermans Hermits, Chad & Jeremy, Wayne Fontana and the mindbenders, the lovin’ spoonful…Everyone thought I was a hippie too.
yes amy know all of them too…lol
dak
you mean it doesn’t get better at age 5?? oh no!!! I thought 3 was young to be back talking and telling me ” mom I’m the boss not you” yes she actually said this,and the most recent shocker was she told me ” mom get your ass (yes ass).. back in the kitchen” i went into shock and scolded her, said time out and all I said you dont talk to me like that young lady..
so she responds to me now
when I say anything to her
mom you don’t talk to lizze like that LOL LOL shes a pistol
My favorite band was The Doors. Yes, am old.
Wow Pammy my son doesn’t use cussing even though I do. He does get a little bossy. As they get older the more they know they more they. Atleast you only have to go through it once. My wife actually wants a third one and I asked her if she was crazy.
Pammy mine says…Mommy, did you get your paycheck yet? (and this is on payday biweekly)..how she knows go figure. I ask, why do you ask? She says..I want you to buy me this video, this toy, this coloring book etc…. She lines them up at the store and gives me her wish list every single payday.
Boy you have a smart one Kris.
With my son you can say something one day and 2 months later he can tell you exactly what you said and when.
kris
OMG that is so funny liz too, or she’ll go into my purse, and go look mom a dollar, and then say we go to store mom?
shes already learned the concept of spending money …age 3…lol…mines into sticker books, we have about 3000 already ( there isnt any more to buy her cause we own them all) lol but everyday mom buy new sticker book? and she even now knows when we go to the bank and even pull up to the bank she’ll say mama get money, go to store…lol
She is a character..that’s for sure.
My son when he was 2 he could see a Mcdonalds or Burger King a mile away and tell you thats what it is.
I feel silly not remembering the name of the funky group and the singer, i am still thinking lol well goes to show ya what age can do lol
i think i need to get some sleep for tonight,
promise to report back when i think of the names lol 🙂
dak
that is funny that he remembers, and your scaring me too…lol so they get even dam smarter..hmmm…
Kids are so smart these days.
Too smart sometime Pammy.
He alreay knows have the words to most of the cartoons on the Disney channel.
Mine gave me a hard time in the morning over clothes…I don’t remember being clothes concious until I turned maybe 13. So she switches outfits from what I picked out, then pulls a temper tantrum over a pair of white socks…I said, “Mommy’s not going back upstairs to get more socks.” She storms up there and the little pip comes down with the same exact pair I had in my hand (from the same package). Mommy I want to wear these! Ughhhh!
You have to be careful they grow up quick.
Wait til she starts dressing herself Kris.
Hi All,
Gotta go for this evening, happy to see the good spirits.
Hugs to all and see you tomorrow!
Later Amy.
By Amy..Good night.
I LOVE the Doors too, and Grand Funk and Deep Purple, lol
Amy – yeah i was born near LA but moved back east as a child and then in 20s to the west, actually lived in Germany too as dad was Air Force.. my sis and bro were born in Wiesbaden, someone the other day in here said they were born in Holland, awesome!
ah the red haired singer, who is she, anyone know who I mean??
ok NG is on yet again, they show it here like 3 times, gonna go catch what I missed, nice chatting with you all. I never stay up this late so I know I am enjoying it, if you move please post the title to the new blog not number of blog
night all
Actually I think Amy has a good idea. I think I better get to bed. I’ve been trying to get to bed earlier ever since I’ve had to get up earlier to take my son to preschool.
pat benetar???
By pammy…night.
Goodnight all talk to ya later and sorry for causing trouble(HAHA).
By Dak..night.
Gonna hit the hay too…By anyone who is still here. The sandman is calling me. Talk to everyone tommorrow.
BONNIE RAITT!!!!!
I THOUGHT OF HER NAME, saw her in an underground coffee shop in Boston in ’72, singin on a bar stool, her long hair,
never knew she would get so famous…
See, i havent lost ALL my marbles yet!!!
CJ that is so cool!
I do business with in Holland, great place, great people!
See you guys tomorrow!!!!
CJ,
Do you mean Janis Joplin?
I was born in Holland and lived there the first 23 years of my live.
Thanks pammyliz for trying to help me, lol
gee this things loading so slow takes forever i am sure they will start a new blog tomorrow, i am getting closer with the funky band, i am thinking BILLY is part of the name of the group still don’t have it but will let you know when i do even if its next week lol
live =life getting late.
SNOOKERS< that was you??!! YES Holland, hey i was in Amsterdam when i was 6 and got the cutest green leather clogs, pupps sorta, so like little wooden heals with green leather straps and cute white boats painted on them, will never forget!
I have family in Germany snookers cuz my mama was born there! SMALL world isn’t it??
OKAY WALLA YA’ll ready- i thought of WHO i saw in 72 at the boston commons, remember i said the black funk band and i remembered the Billy part lol ,
it was BILLY PRESTON!!!! YEAH!! LOL
and of course ms bonie raiit!!
CJ,
Bet your mum still talks with an accent I still do after all those years.
Besides the Doors, was also a big fan of Jimi Hendrix. He was awesome.
That being said, what an accomplishment lol think it’s time to sign off for tonight, see you all soon again 🙂
Sweet Dreams~
Hi Snookers, my last post was referencing the previous one where i had remembered the names, tee hee
but to answer your last post before i sign off for the night , yes my mama still has an accent 🙂 and PS I love ‘jimi’ too, indeed!
Catch you again tomorrow!!!
Morning… Is anyone around today?
Hi everyone – are we still on this page?
The only good thing that came out of Padilla bonding Monster out is that he had some insight of what went on in the Anys house that week the FBI released the Hair sample and the body farm released the Air sample…
Padilla kepts repeating that the Ants did a 180 that week in their attempts to find Caylee…. He believes that Monster told Lee (perhaps the truth) and Lee told C&G.
I think Padilla wants to set the record straight with his first intentions for bonding Monster out… When Monster gave him a nice slam in the face (hypo) that pissed him off!!!
Hes cousin was tagging along for a week…He had to heard something, Since that was her first time out in 34 days, she probably talked his head off trying to impress him.
Suppossibly FBI and a Orlanda Investigator can fling to Cali to interview what Padilla has to say….I’m hoping its something that can really help this case…
Elle, yesterday you said “Lawyers only think of it as what is entitled to anyone, whether guilty or not guilty, everyone is entitled to a fair trial. It’s also a mental challenge I think – an ego boost if they can get someone deserving of ultimate punishment off with a much lesser sentence. It’s not the altruistic act to make the world a safer place, doesn’t enter into it for them.”
I hate to beat a dead horse, but it still bothers me that it’s accepted, in our judicial system, for lawyers to lie. We raise our right hand and swear to tell the truth, yet lawyers do not have to abide by that rule and can make up stories and encouraging their client to use false statements all in the name of winning the game. No wonder our society is becoming corrupt without values. It looks like biggest and best lies prevail. Sad!
i thought i was the only one from the bonnie raitt era, lol what ever happened to her??? i gotta leave for work but will be on tonight with you all.. if you move please post the title of the new page, may some new developments happen today.. like… her arrest for her involvement in her daughters disappearance.. ( i just don’t have the heart to say the real charge)
MMT, you’re right. The client must swear to tell the truth, while the lawyer is sitting there raising objections for fear the truth will come out.
Alliethinks, in regards to Padilla. He’s still pretty much “a bump on a pickle.” I don’t dislike him, as I did when he first came on the scene with his unbelievable faith in the monster. His whole demeanor changed once all the tests came back. Padilla has probably leaked out some damaging evidence that puts monster in a bad light, but I noticed that when he brings up something he’s heard, he then adds his “belief” to it. Give me a break… his intuition has been way off base right from the beginning. I highly doubt that monster has told Lee or anyone what she did. Monster’s in the twilight zone thinking that as long as she doesn’t admit to her lie no one will ever be able to prove differently. She’s done it to her parents all her life and it always worked… they swallowed it hook, line and sinker.
I’m sure that since Padilla’s story has been so publized, it has to be checked out.
Hi, MMT! I understand what you are saying. But deense attorneys are obliged to provide the “best possible defense.” I don’t think they can lie in the courtroom per se – maybe just on camera for the media. For example in court they can present alternative theories on how a crime could have been committed. But they have to get somebody on the stand – sworn to tell the truth – to agree with them enough to sway the jury to reasonable doubt. And they can’t get any witness or the defendant to lie on the stand – that’s suborning perjury which would get them disbarred. So they can BS in front of the cameras as much as they want but thank God more rules are in force once they are in court.
What I think is terrible about our judicial system is that people can get off for technicalities. For example, so what if a search warrant was issued for the house and evidence was found in the garage? It should still be admissable evidence. If it’s such a big transgression the guilty party should not benefit – although certain other penalties could be required from the prosecution or police or whoever. But a technicality like that should not get the guilty party off. That’s crazy.
pammyliz.. talk to you later!
ok remember to find me tonight if I am lost lol i get home around 9 and should be on then
I think it’s possible that the detectives have gone to CA to get sworn depositions from Padilla and his team. That makes sense if they are trying to put a case together so they can bring charges. Otherwise they could just talk to them on the phone. But depositions or sworn statements need to be recorded and done officially and the detectives would want to ask the questions.
Good morning mytwocents! To me it seems like the lying starts when a defense attorney files a “Not Guilty” plea for a murderer… such as in the Lunsford case where that devil kidnapped her and killed her by burying her alive.
Then again, it’s hard for me to believe that no one on the OJ defense team, didn’t bring lies in to the court room in order to get him acquitted.
mytwocents, I’m sure you are absolutely right when you said “It’s possible that the detectives have gone to CA to get sworn depositions from Padilla and his team.”
And for exactly the reason you said, “Depositions or or sworn statements need to be recorded and done officially.”
Let’s hope that all these threads are pulling a tight case against the monster.
Morning all!
I think both sides sometimes play games once a case has gotten to court. Because then it is no longer a search for truth. It’s just a matter of winning or losing. Sad.
MMT – I don’t like to hear the Not Guilty plea either especially when we know then or later how guilty the person really is. But again I think it’s part of a screwy legal system. If no plea was offered or if an offered plea is unacceptable to the accused – this is basically deciding on the sentence prior to trial, remember – then the accused has no option other than to plead not guilty.
Of course some really hope to get off scott free. Others just hope to be found guilty of a lesser crime OR sentenced to less time than the prosecution offered.
I have such a sad feeling today, I don’t know why. Like the reason why that Monster is so incredibly confident and strutting for the camera is that she’s done something where Caylee will never be found.
How can someone be so calm and answer police in such a non-sensical way…what was she even saying? How is she not completely broken down that WHATEVER happened, the baby has been gone for three whole months and she hasn’t seen Caylee? How is she walking around?
Does anyone know how closely LE works with the State when doing their interrogations? I am hoping this stuff doesn’t get thrown out, referring to the 2 hours they questioned Casey.
I guess no legal system is perfect. My main complaint to the current one is that it is so class oriented. In other words,well heeled defendant, more money, better defense.
Or well published case, draws better defense lawyers out of the wood work if no money but big payout can be expected after/during trial.
And the way this is going, Monster will get getting excellent council/experts and plenty of research will be done to find those technicalities as “mytwocents” referred to.
Afternoon 🙂
Beyond ~ She can walk around because there is no there is no quilt or conscience for her to wrestle with, IMO. She’s like a Narcissist. The DSM Criteria is:
A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:
1. has a grandiose sense of self-importance
2. is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love
3. believes that he or she is “special” and unique
4. requires excessive admiration
5. has a sense of entitlement
6. is interpersonally exploitative
7. lacks empathy
8. is often envious of others or believes others are envious of him or her
9. shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes
Five or more? I would say she has all of them from what we’ve seen. But the lack of empathy and the fact that she was and is obviously jealous of her own child really makes one wonder how this hasn’t happened already.
Elle,
I think BB will try to get those two hours of questioning thrown out. She had no lawyer present, she was not charged at that time yet, so probably no miranda.
The judge will be very important in this upcoming trial. Hope it will be a sharpie.
Hi everyone. I definitely agree she is narcissistic and sociopathic too. Baez is now saying the prosecution is “playing games.” What an insane accusation. Casey is the one playing games. If Casey pulled a gun and stuck it to someone’s head and they resisted, Baez would accuse them of making Casey look bad.
NG said she saw a written and signed miranda or whatever when one of the defense-lawyer-type guests on her show was bellyaching about monster being interrogated without being mirandized. I sure hope NG is right – that it was given and signed before the interrogation but I don’t know. I did not hear anything about that on the audio tapes that were released of that interrogation.
And you know maybe it doesn’t matter in a way. They can testify to what she told them and the places she took them to and prove they were lies. (I don’t know)
snookers I agree 100%
Will we be able to thrash the trial too a bit on this blog. Would be nice to think that this blog doesn’t go away once the legal process takes over. I have never really participated on any blog, so I don’t know how it works.
NG said she signed a miranda during those two hours. Even so, I find it hard to believe that when police question you after YOU called them to help you find your lost child, it can’t be used in court. That is really stupid.
starryNY,
I suspect such a person does not even “hate” s person since that would require strong emotions. They just remove obstacles/hinderances out of their way if they interfere with their daily desired way of living.
I guess it does not matter to them if those obstacles are living or inanimate objects.
Pluto: Wasn’t that what the partial immunity was about, that they wouldn’t use all the stuff she said and just try her on the facts of the case? Since she passed on that offer, guessing everything will be on the table, until BB is able to get it thrown out.
Snookers or anyone in here right now… I thought NC said something, the other day, about seeing a copy of a Casey Anthony signed Miranda. Am I missing something here? Did a report come out in the news that I missed?
snookers~
Exactly. Emotion is emotion, she happens to lack it. But I bet she can cry at the drop of a hat when needed or when told too.
Please disregard my September 17th, 2008 at 12:07 pm post… that’s what I get for not reading all the comments before making my own comment. I now see how the conversation started about the Miranda.
MMT,
NG did say something about monster being mirandarized recently. I thought she slightly vague about it though. Did not say at what point either. The taped version of it is very powerful, and would be extremely damaging for Monster when played to a jury.
elle, I thought the immunity was that anything she said that led them to Caylee would not be held against her, only the facts other than that.
MMT, NG did say she signed a Miranda, when she said, “I assume she can read.” But I don’t know how she knew that.
hello everybody anything new with the ant’s know casey turned herself in but was bonded ut again,crap can’t they just leave her in jail
i don’t think that the Le should get in trouble when they question casey, they were pissed off because she ran them all over the place for bullshit
Snookers… OMG… am I naive or what? It’s so hard for me to believe that investigators with over 30 years experience could have made a huge, dumb mistake as not to have given monster her Miranda rights. I’m sure this was done. I think what scares us is the fact that we didn’t hear it. Investigator didn’t start the tape off by mentioning it. Don’t you think their heads would roll if they forgot that of all things?
If the ants were really serious about finding Caylee, they would leave her in jail. They know she lies, and getting her to tell the truth is obviously not happening at home. I can only deduce that the ants know what happened to Caylee and that is why they aren’t vigerously doing everything in their power to find out anymore. I personally think they found out right before Cindy switched her story to the pizza in the trunk. From that moment on, Cindy quit trying to find Caylee and went to defending Casey.
hi all .c m are in kissie at mr. perfects office as im sure you guys allready know i found myself at cand g house the other day im getting obsessed with all of this stuff.today i actually thought about wanting to follow those 2 just to piss them off.my luck i would get myself in trouble and be in the cell monster been yukkkk. i just have too much time on my hands lol/
I absolutely agree pluto. Why else would they have shut down completely? I can’t help but think if it were me, and my child disappeared and I didn’t know where she was, I would have been locked up right off the bat and I would still be there. But then again I would have cracked like an egg by now. This is all about her defense and making sure they can counter anything the prosecution brings to the table.
MMT,
They probably did. How NG knows no clue. When somebody is missing, sadly a close family member is often the culprit.
Also Cindy made the claim of monster stealing car/money, so monster was a suspect from day 1.
pluto, ahhh, maybe so.
i wonder if c and m talk in the car? i think m thinks that the car is bugged too.
starryNY,
Do you handle your daughter with kidgloves also or does tough love sometimes work.
Such a person with that type of personality defect surely has an empty life. Imagine missing the pleasure of giving a present to loved one for example. Just hard to comprehend this lack of emotion.
Starry did you ever get an expected present from your daughter?
I don’t want to hear they’re reducing her sentence to ‘time served’ – that would really be ashame. I say, leave her out and then when the murder trial starts, she’ll have to go to prison and not the LE jail, or county jail (not sure where she’s at). Will be a rude awakening to go from Mommy & Daddy’s to general population at the prison.
expected= unexpected
Doesn’t the miranda have to be given just prior to arrest? I don’t think they arrested her right after the “interrogation/interview” at Universal. Not sure exactly when or where she was arrested the first time. Does anyone know?
Besides she was willingly taking them all over town and talking with them all day. And the cops can testify to all of that. I think the case would be fine with or without that recording. (Or maybe I just want one less thing to worry about! 🙂
Now, don’t go crazy when you read this… I’m simply trying to make a point.
If it’s true that the ants know that their monster daughter took their granddaughter’s life and can still stand by her with open arms, then they are very sick people. The Ants would be feeding monsters sociopath personality disorder as they probably did all her life.
Let’s say this case blew up in our face (which it won’t) and the Ants got their wish and monster was acquitted. (It will never happen, but let’s go there) What then? Monster goes back to her old raunchy life style, ends up pregnant again and brings home another baby… Where would it end?
Morning Ya’ll,
snookers said,
in September 16th, 2008 at 11:30 pm
Mandi,
No, Jesse Grund and monster did not go to the beach. I looked again at the narrative and Jesse statement. If somebody read the police narrative real fast, it might look like that but the beach going applies to nanny and caylee as told by monster to Jesse.
HERE are my thoughts, when M “made up” nanny and Caylee going to the beach THAT DAY I think in M’s mind NANNY MEANS THE KILLER,
the “killer and Caylee” were at the beach…
THATS the SAME day her phone logged NO calls..
the beach must be where precious Caylee is ….
mytwocents,
The arrest affadavit is dated 7/16 16.33
snookers, since she was a suspect about the car/money right off the bat, do you know if they read her her rights at first visit? I just can’t figure out how an investigator is supposed to get any information to solve a case if the people involved have the right to say nothing. If this is the case how do they get any information, and why do criminals ever get pressured into confession? How are investigators allowed to interrogate anyone, like Susan Smith for instance? I’m confused at how any crimes get solved this way.
CJ, it could be the Sybil thing that Sabrina mentioned the other day. Maybe Casey is Zanny too, and your play by play above is absolutely correct. She doesn’t know who the father of Caylee really is…..because she didn’t get pregnant – the other personality did. Just a flip on this oh so bizarre case.
Snookers – Thank you! I don’t know what time the interview ended or whether they arrested her then and there at Universal or later at home.
She willingly took them around and talked to them and they gave her many chances after finding that everything she said was a lie.
So I’m hoping that even without a miranda at that point that it’s admissable but if it isn’t I don’t think that interview is key to a successful prosecution anyway. There is so much against her even without that.
Does anyone know when M started saying that Caylee was with Zanny? It could have started 1 1/2 years ago or just a few months before Caylee disappeared. I guess the cops will have to go back a ways to find more people to talk to to find out. Of course C & G won’t say even if she talked to them about Zanny long ago.
I just hope to hear some real “breaking news” on the Caylee Anthony case on Nancy Grace tonight. I want to hear Nancy say that Caylee’s body has been found, they have evidence on the body showing homicide and Casey has been arrested on first degree murder and the judge has denied her bond.
That should wipe the smirk right off of the faces of the Mother of the Year and her swarmy attorney. George and Cindy will have a nervous breakdown but maybe then they’ll get psychiatric help and wake up. It’s worse to live your life in a permanent state of denial than to face the tragedy of their granddaughter being murdered by their daughter.
mmt – yeah the A’s reverted back to their usual treatment of M.. after the story switched to possibly pizza reaking in the trunk..
snookers~ kids gloves? mabye wehen she was younger (10, 11 or 12)but not since then. I always show her love but yes it’s definatly tough love. I have to be responsible with it, as awful as that sounds.
I’m not sure what you mean by this:
“Starry did you ever get an expected present from your daughter?”
MMT – I am going crazy but not because of your note. 🙂 It’s because of “what happens” when for example a child molester gets out of prison – most of the time they molest another child. Or an on-line predator gets out of prison – he stalks kids on-line again (one just got caught in FL and it’s what he was locked up for before); and what the adult woman did Again after she went to jail the first time for seducing an underage boy. I’m convinced there are certain crimes that people will continue to commit until they die – if they are out of prison. But we let them out anyway. And that’s what will happen in your what if situation. She will lie and she will kill because lying is what she does naturally and killing is what she does when it suits her.
Pluto,
I never have been arrested so I donot know for sure.
MMT,
Monster made the call to Jesse on 6/25 about being free for the weekend because Nanny and Caylee were going to the beach.
On 07.00 6/27 her car was noticed in the morning by manager of Amscot. Technically I think the car could have been since the previous day.
I think she did something with Caylee’s body after 6/24 and probably before calling Jesse.
Being free could mean she finally found the ultimate place for Caylee.
cj – I think since M mentioned that Zanny and Caylee were at the beach then it would be intentional mis-direction. If she was going to blame Zanny then the police would look at the beach which would be where M did not put the child.
Here is partial article and thought it interesting how the lawyer said that LE had not contacted him (successfully is the unsaid comment)
Baez repeated his contention that police arrested Casey Anthony too soon — less than 24 hours after the 911 call. Once she was charged with a crime, she became reluctant to speak to investigators.
“She was talking to the police. They didn’t like what they said. They threw her in jail,” Baez told Vieira. “Now they’re upset that they don’t have full access to her, and unfortunately, when you launch a criminal charge, the person has a right to defend themselves.”
Baez said that Casey Anthony never invoked her Miranda rights, but said investigators talked to her initially for some six hours. Since then, he said, they have not asked her help in finding Caylee.
“They have not contacted me to specifically ask any questions in regards to leads,” he said.
The Orlando Sentinel quotes officials as saying they have left messages with Baez that have not been returned.
starryNY,
Sorry about confusing post.
I wanted to know if you ever received a nice unexpected gift/present from your daughter that was not given in order to get something bigger in return.
Not trying to be nosy, just trying to understand this missing emotion thing better. I have a 22 year old daughter too.
Nancy Grace had a copy of the miranda statement Casey signed before she was interviewed by the cops on July 15 after Cindy called the cops to her home to find Caylee. At the beginning of the police interrogation tape Nancy played, the investigator asks Casey if she wants to retract anything she said in her sworn statement she just signed attesting that everything she said was true. She said she didn’t want to change it.
However, during the second interview on July 16 after the cops had watched a surveilance camera at Sawgrass Apartments and checked her story and confronted her, she admitted that she had given them false addresses and false information.
Pluto, somebody like Susan Smith or M, who has already told a bunch of lies to the police continues to do so and wants to continue to seem innocent so often doesn’t have a lawyer at that point – of their own volition. But if the cops decide to bring the hammer down on them with a serious interrogation all the suspect has to do is say I want a lawyer. Then the cops have to leave the room. M didn’t do that. She could have at any time.
The cops don’t have to announce that they are going to arrest her before interrogating any way they want. But if they arrest her they sure do have to mirandize her before interrogating her. I think Susan Smith just broke down during questioning or confessed when cops said, we know that this is what happened – not what you’ve been telling us.
M could have done that too but she didn’t.
Also cops can interview/interrogat someone who has been arrested and has a lawyer with them IF the suspect is willing. The lawyer will advise the suspect what questions to answer or not. But BoBo announced that M would not say anything else at all so no point in questioning her after her arrest.
Concerned about Caylee,
I hope to hear something good on NG about this case today too, as I do all the time..
I LOVED your letter to Nejame, very well worded and to the point and his repsonse was I thought quite good for a man of his caliber..
Thanks so much for making effrots to share the letter and reply with us, it worked but don’t know why it took so long,
THIS BLOG is BOGGED down again lol taking way long to load and i have other comments to make too and its so SLOW.. darnit.. so each time i wrote there are more comments to comment to and so slow takes forever, sorry bout that, will keep pecking away nonetheless. lol
Hi all! Are we still here?
Caylee has stolen America’s heart,
CREDIT goes to you on the GREAT letter, had the name wrong before sorry.
elle thank you for posting that. I remember thinking at the time, why would the police want to continue talking to her when all she told them before was lies?
Besides, M had another chance to talk when Padilla bailed her out. M and C had been complaining that she could not talk while in jail for fear of endangering Caylee and the family. Well, Padilla got her out and she still didn’t say anything. He was ready to hunt down Zaneida to the ends of the earth. But M wouldn’t talk to him. So he bascially had called her bluff. The business about not being able to talk in jail was a big lie too.
All of us including Padilla at that point still hoped the child was alive. But when the decomp was found we all lost a whole lot of hope – and that’s when Padilla put her back in jail. I’m glad he got her out, though. I would have always worried that a chance might have been missed to find the child. Now we know it wasn’t.
Ok thanks my2ccents, so in other words, until someone is arrested, they do not have to invoke the miranda? Or is it at the moment they become a suspect, whether they know it or not?
snookers~ I gotcha now. Not that I can think of really. She’s not that type of person. It’s hard to explain. It’s like if you step on someones foot, you would turn and say Oh I’m sorry! She would step on your foot and then want to know why you were staring at her. Does does that make sense?
I think one can say “I want a lawyer” anytime they want to. But the police HAVE to mirandize someone at the time of an arrest.
I believe there’s a big difference between writing and signing a statement – which lots of people in this case did – and being arrested. Police don’t mirandize you – read you your rights – when you’re just signing a statement. I think it’s two different things.
It’s obvious that swearing a statement is correct and signing it can be used against you if it proves wrong later. But actually being arrested and carted off to jail is a different thing.
The Miranda Rule in Florida states:
Miranda Rule
Under the Miranda Rule, if you are in police custody you must be informed of specific constitutional rights before interrogation begins. Those rights are as follows:
The right to remain silent
The right to have an attorney present during questioning
The right to have an attorney appointed if you are unable to afford one
Important to note is that Miranda rights do not have to be read until you are taken into custody. That means that you can be questioned by the police before being taken into custody, and anything you say at that point can be used against you later in court.
I looked it up: “Miranda warning is a warning given by police to criminal suspects in police custody, or in a custodial situation, before they are asked questions relating to the commission of a crime. A custodial situation is where the suspect’s freedom of movement is restrained although he or she is not under arrest.”
Now a smarmy lawyer like BoBo could claim that she was in custody during that audio recorded interview. However we can clearly hear the cops say “we are here at Universal because you brought us here, we are in a conference room with the door open, etc.” and ask if she’s willing to talk with them.
There was no “custodial” situation. M was obviously still trying to string them along on her own.
starryNY,
Yes, that does make perfect sense. People would just call a person like that rude and move on.
It makes a difference what jurisdiction you are in, on what the exact law is pertaining to Miranda.
twocents,
“She will lie and she will kill because lying is what she does naturally and killing is what she does when it suits her.”
yes, ‘everyone lies, everyone dies’ is her motto..
Also twocents,
“cj – I think since M mentioned that Zanny and Caylee were at the beach then it would be intentional mis-direction. If she was going to blame Zanny then the police would look at the beach which would be where M did not put the child.”
I BELIEVE M IS blaming Zanny Nanny!
Twocents,
Yes, I can remember that. They said the door was closed for privacy but not locked and she could leave anytime she wanted. That was obviously said with Miranda rights in mind.
Those detectives were no dummies.
hello everyone, anything new in the case ???
Gosh lets move this blog if someone didn’t already between my last post and this one, lol
I am going to comment on some older comments now before I tryto ctach up to the newer ones.. lol
Mandi – Good one, running of license plate for name.
“All monster had to do is write the license plate number down an d ask one of her cop friends to check it out later. while working on her elaborate story. Wonder if they keep records at the police of such request by their deputies.”
This would sorta mean the nanny zanny “thing” is a newer thing she has tossed around and not for the poast couple years…
alliethinks said,
in September 17th, 2008 at 9:29 am
“The only good thing that came out of Padilla bonding Monster out is that he had some insight of what went on in the Anys house that week the FBI released the Hair sample and the body farm released the Air sample…
Padilla kepts repeating that the Ants did a 180 that week in their attempts to find Caylee…. He believes that Monster told Lee (perhaps the truth) and Lee told C&G.”
Padilla is a smart cookie, he KNOWS he is of HUGE HELP to this case at this point!! GO PADILLA!!
pluto said,
in September 17th, 2008 at 12:31 pm
“If the ants were really serious about finding Caylee, they would leave her in jail. They know she lies, and getting her to tell the truth is obviously not happening at home. I can only deduce that the ants know what happened to Caylee and that is why they aren’t vigerously doing everything in their power to find out anymore. I personally think they found out right before Cindy switched her story to the pizza in the trunk. From that moment on, Cindy quit trying to find Caylee and went to defending Casey.”
RIGHT ON PLUTO!!
these are my older replies now will try to get to the newer ones, lol
Cindy claims the police are not doing their job because they are not interviewing the 1,000 women across the country that have the Hispanic name of Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez.
Why should they when they realized two days into the investigation that Casey made up the name of a pretend nanny to put the blame on someone else. They found no evidence that a Zenaida Fernadez-Gonzalez was ever Casey’s nanny.
1- None of her many boyfriends, few friends, aquaintences or family have
ever heard of or met Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez. Her friends knews names of Casey’s babysitters and none had ever heard of Zenaida.
2-There are no telephone calls in Casey’s cell phones from or to a Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez.
3-There are no emails or text messages in Casey’s computer to or from a Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez.
4-There is no record of a Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez living at any of the addresses Casey provided.
5-There is no record of a Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez working at Universal Studio as a seasonal employee as Casey stated.
6- The Zenaida Gonzalez who looked at an apartment at Sawgrass Apts. on June 17 was ruled out as the nanny after Casey looked at her picture and denied knowing her and she denied knowing Casey or Caylee.
When monster was in jail the first time for a month, does anybody remember George ever talking to her or hearing him on a released tape. I donot, and I find that odd.
hi snookers i had never thought about that, yet it makes sense especially after padilla mentioned that george walks a wide circle around casey
OK thanks for clarification about miranda. She definitely was not in police custody because they kept asking her if she was there of her own free will…very smart! I can’t praise these investigators enough. I imagine they see Casey for exactly what she is.
I just got done reading some about Susan Smith. Apparently, she has gotten two guards in trouble for having sex with them in prison. That is those who got caught, who knows how many others. I know this isn’t about her, but she’s an example of someone who can kill their child and go on like nothing happened. Those two little adorable boys drowned in their carseats on purpose by mom….I can’t even imagine how these monsters think!!!!! It’s so horrible.
The investigators on this case sound like they are experienced. They knew they were dealing with a potential murder suspect because they kept telling her she knew where
Caylee was and Caylee’s body was decomposing as they spoke. I am confident they mirandarized her properly and made sure she knew her rights so Baez can’t get the tapes thrown out. The damaging tapes will be played in court.
george being ex cop would most likely see through the lies casey is telling
the cops can ask anyone to come in to talk and that person can say no any time, and stop talking and ask for a lawter at any time, miranda doesn’t have to be issued unless they are being arrested
Concerned about Caylee said,in September 17th, 2008 at 1:59 pm
PERFECTLY STATED AND TRUE!!!
Hi Everyone,
Getting back to her interviews with the police, can the DA bring that into the trial?
Concerned,
You answered my question, thank you.
hi catherine, i hope so, i think there’s a strong possibility, at least portions of the interveiws
Hi all anything new going on.
Concerned, great post. I agree, any rational person can see that going on a wild goose chase from the lies of Casey would be fruitless. You know, if Cindy really believes Zenaida the babysitter exists (I doubt she really does) she could at the very least understand why all of the lies Casey told to investigators are the reason they don’t believe that either. She never blames Casey for anything now. It’s so weird seeing as how she was the one who wanted her arrested and had had enough of her crap.
It also makes no sense that Cindy never saw Zenaida in all that time, especially since it is a fact that she was worried about Caylee and was considering seeking custody. I go round and round with this stuff and none of it makes any sense.
hi dak, i haven’t heard anything new and i’ve been watching news all day
Hi Sabrina,
I found this online-
Human Bones Found Near Florida Nursing Home
A human skeleton was found near a nursing home in Ocala, Florida on Thursday, according to Local6 News.
The discovery was made at the Oakwood Nursing Home located on Southwest First Ave in Ocala.
Police do not know if the bones belonged to a man or woman.
Local6 News reported that a nursng home resident was reported missing in April but it was not known if the two incidents were related.
I wonder if C’s father lives in the Oakwood Nursing Home?
I’ve been trying. My wifes mouse stopped working while she was working so she had to borrow mine which is why I wasn’t on this morning.
I would bet that the bones are that of the missing nursing home resident.
Although thats strange to have person missing from the nursing for 5 months and now finding bones. I wonder if the searched that area when that person went missing.
the bones found should be able to tell if baby or adult, most likely an old person wondered outside and collapsed, but ya never know…i still think equusearch found something, that’s why the wrapped up the investigation, tim said they would not leave till they found caylee, them leaving speaks volumes to me
True Sabrina . Do you think the result would be back.
I do too Sabrina.
dak, i think it will be another week or two, these things take time, a mitocondreal dna comes back pretty quick but the other dna takes longer, but i think cops will keep it close to the vest in the meantime, also why would they still be searching if in fact they believe the bones belong to caylee, unless they are just trying to throw certain people off in order to get incriminating statements
After th LE gets done tracking down all the Zenaida Fenandez-Gonzolas do the Ant’s want them to start looking for the sister Samantha? The names don’t even make any sense. One sister is Zenaida (a latino name) and the other is Samantha? Guess the M. didn’t have time to think of a Rosa or a Maria?
Sabrina,
I think we should move to another blog, don’t you?
Okay I know this is crazy and is just something I found. Evedentually the girl Kiomarie Torres(the one who wnated to adopt Caylee)has a relative named Zenaida Torres who has a sister named Samantha. I’m not sure how the person made this connectiona and you could take it with a grain of salt. Just food for thought.
catherine, i don’t know which came first, casey says she doeasn’t know where caylee is, then she says “someone” then the nama zenaida, i heard casey say someone she trusted, someone, someone, just a few times an actual name “zenaida” just wondering when pressed by the cops did she come up with that name…please correct me if i’m wrong
yes catherine, a different blog sounds like a good idea…dak i haven’t heard about the other zenaida, where did you find that ?
Sabrina,
No that’s what she said when the police were interviewing her “Someone” has Caylee that I used to trust, but I don’t trust anymore.
I found it the Briansdreams forums.
http://forums.delphiforums.com/briansdreams/messages
This is the link to the forum. All kinds of descussions and stuff, real interesting.
oh ok, well they play and replay the tapes over and over then they introduce new tapes in between ugh lol
maybe we should move to brainsdreams blogs
Hey heres something very interesting. The Zenaida that LE interviewed just told WESH local news that she was fired from her cleaning job after this case came out. Cleaning company(suspicious).
Cindy said at one time that Casey had mentioned the name Zenaida and Zanny the nanny but she had never met her. She said she would take a lie detector test to prove it. She refused to take a lie detector test when the FBI asked her, George and Lee. I’m sure they realized they wouldn’t be able to lie in court for Casey if a lie detector test proved they were lying.
I don’t believe a word out of Casey’s mouth and when it comes to defending Casey, I don’t believe a word out of Cindy’s mouth either.
I don’t think Casey has told George, Cindy or Lee that Caylee is dead and where she disposed of the body. I think they know she is dead and pretty much fear the body is where Tim Miller and his team were looking. That’s why Cindy tried to stop the search.
Sabrina,
I’m going over to the blog “Caylee’s Anthony Mom Says Not Guilty on Check Fraud Charges” it’s at the top of this page.
Well i think i know why Padilla is still involved.
Dakdude3: I read that, too, about Zenaida being fired. Obviously an Hispanic company afraid of the bad publicity and of losing work. Why do you think anything about that is suspicious? I’d say it’s a deplorable way to treat her. Is it even legal to be fired for that reason?
concerned, well put, that’s what i believe…seems odd that C would ask equusearch to come help, then attack tim for his efforts…dak why cleaning suspicious ?
No I meant suspicious she worked for a cleaning company
catherine, ok i’ll join you there…on my way
Concerned,
I think Caylee might have that book about Zanny the Nanny that’s why C. heard of it. She was the one who probably read it to Caylee. M was out with her legs open 24/7.
I heard Padilla was offered $30000 for a book deal about this case.
Wow I guess I scared them off, and not sure why.
Hi, Dak! I was out yesterday evening but read up this morning and noticed that you posted this and I wanted to ask you where you saw that report and also comment that if true it could mean that the Caylee case is getting priority now so maybe they can bring the more serious charges forward, you know? If so I’m sure everyone here will send up a cheer!
You wrote: at 10:31 pm
I just read that this case is evedentually causing a backlog in the court system. Several cases have been pushed back a couple of months. Some officers aren’t making their depostions in other cases and DNA from other cases are been pushed back too.
I think it was local 6 in Orlando.
I guess its just you and me here but I am going to have to go wife wants to go to the store. Besides I think Catherine left because of me.
I think Casey killed Caylee on the 16th and realized her friends and family would ask about Caylee so on the 17th, she went to the Sawgrass Apts. where Amy lived and inquired about the vacant apt. She saw the name Zenaida Gonzalez on an application and thought up her alibi right then. If the police ever got involved, she’d say she left Caylee with a nanny named Zenaida Gonzalez.
Casey didn’t want them to ever find the nanny so she added the Fernandez name in front of Gonzalez. She never intended to pin it on a real person. That’s why when the police questioned the Zenaida Gonzalez who had looked at the apartment, Casey said that wasn’t her.
Casey knows the Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez she claims is her nanny will never be found. In court, she can claim Caylee is alive and still with the nanny and since they can’t find the nanny, there will be reasonable doubt in the mind of jurors that Caylee is with the nanny since neither has been found.
Could we have a little discussion here before we all move? There are plenty of other articles about this case with far fewer posts than for example the one mentioned above which is already half full.
For example there is an August 30 article that only has 50 comments on it.
It is called:
Caylee Anthony’s Mom’s Original Bond Revoked, She Stays in Jail For Now!
It is article # 117539
We might as well go to one with lots of room since we’re heading into the evening and people tend to blog into the wee hours.
What do you all think?
Heres the link about the courts.
http://www.wftv.com/news/17489435/detail.html
Hi, CJ! I worded it poorly but I meant that I do agree with you that M was planning to blame Zanny. And telling Jesse that Zanny and Caylee were at the beach would direct the police possibly in the wrong direction. That’s why I don’t think the little baby is at the beach.
I know this going to sound insensitive but if the Zenaida they interviewed can’t find a job whos paying her hotel bill for the hotel she has been at for over a month, and they aren’t cheap.
Well I’ll catch up later. Bye.
Dak, Zenaida may be homeless. Sometimes the homeless are housed in motels. Or maybe she got some money for her interview.
I’m sure they realized they wouldn’t be able to lie in court for Casey if a lie detector test proved they were lying.
Lie detector results are not admissable in a court of law.
grandpopster said today about “your not even looking for her anymore”
well duh! tell your daughter to stop the lies and tell the truth of where caylee is.
we all know the zanny nanny story is a lie, so where the heck should we go look Mr. GrandMonster?
Easy Goingm
I think the search being called off right after the bones and clothing were found might mean something. Also, remember that the police had just donated 5K for the search efforts, and yet nothing has happened since then. The ground must be getting better to conduct searches again, unless it’s no longer necessary.
Hi All, did you see the new article on wftv.com
“Casey Anthony may have made up names of nanny, friends,…
my2cents: great idea – I say let’s go to the blog with 50 posts.
I was just there, and all by myself, weep weep, sniff, sniff
Hey Amy
I just found where everyone moved to:
It’s under:
Caylee Anthony’s Mom Says Not Guilty on Check Fraud Charges
117780
Here’s the link:
http://www.bloggernews.net/117780
test (page ate my previous post)
http://www.wftv.com/news/17497948/detail.html
They are now interviewing friends again asking about Xanax. Jesse is one who was asked the question in a lie detector test.
A few of us have held onto the ‘Zanny the Nanny’ theory being Xanax given to Caylee to make her “sleep through anything” as Amy said.
where is everyone?
easygoing: I agree. Once you provide a bunch of lies to the cops, you can’t expect them to follow leads you give them anymore. duh.
Anyone here
Hey, good morning everyone. I guess we’re still on this page.
i am don’t know where the other went to kris, MNT and others. they didn’t let me know if they moved. but noone talking on this one
okay-i’ll go look for them and check back
Pluto, Amy, Dakdude3, Gumshoe and everyone!
Just writing to let you know that it looks like the blog moved last night to:
Caylee Anthony’s Mom Sprung Free Again
117641
everyone seems to have gone here:
http://www.bloggernews.net/117641
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