I admit I am in no way, shape or form a fan of any of the Anthony’s except for Caylee herself, God bless her! When I heard about this I had to laugh. While I seriously think that George Anthony knows exactly what happened to his granddaughter, I just find it hard to believe he would have had anything to do with her death.
Of course this is only my opinion but I still think George’s so called attempted suicide was planned in order to get sympathy on him and so they could use that in the future to make excuses for his testimony to the Grand Jury. WBDO claims they can prove that members of Casey’s defense team did in fact approach the Daytona Beach Hotel, which is where George was when he supposedly tried to commit suicide. So does this mean that Baez is going to try to say George was involved in Caylee’s murder?
Personally I think Baez is the one that needs help. The man seems as though he is at his wits end and is desperate to find someone that will take the fall for his client. As I see it since George has went so many years being told how to live and what he can and can’t do by his wife and apparently his daughter as well, they could probably convince him that the only way they can save their brat would be for him to confess to murdering his own grandchild.
Another hearing was held yesterday dealing with a motion filed by Baez requesting that the judge seal a phone conversation he had with inmate Robin Lunceford. He claims he didn’t know the conversation was being recorded and never gave permission for it. Well he wasn’t Lunceford’s attorney and he was having a phone conversation with an inmate so he should have automatically known that it was being recorded. Why wouldn’t it have been since that is public knowledge?
I honestly can’t believe that the state of Florida would ever have issued Jose Baez a license to practice law. He gives all the other attorneys practicing law there a bad name.
Judge Perry has ordered that the taped recording be handed over to him so that he will be able to privately review the recording himself. There are claims that the tape has information that Maya Derkovik falsified her story about Casey telling her that she used chloroform to knock out Caylee and that the inmate told Baez that she and another prisoner conspired to lie about Casey Anthony just to help them get a break on their own cases. It is unknown whether or not Baez said anything incriminating on the tape. Could that be why he is so desperate to keep this tape from going public?
I think the wannabe dream team has something to worry about especially since last weeks pre-trial hearing when they had Cindy Anthony put on the stand. Why this woman has not been arrested for perjury is beyond me. Everyone one of them have said things under oath only to contradict their own selves, later under oath. I always thought lying under oath was against the law. I guess Florida has special circumstances though. I would love to be the one responsible for handing out warrants to arrest someone. If I was, George, Cindy and Lee would be in the same cell as Casey is and they would all four be forced to face each other 24/7. They should be forced to be together all the time in one tiny cell. Someone would be yelling some sort of confession if for no other reason but just to get out of there.
Poor little Caylee is looking down probably frowning at her family. I can just imagine how disappointed she is with them but that innocent little girl no doubt loved her family and she will probably forgive them once this is all over, but I bet she would forgive them quicker if they would just admit what happened and quit blaming it on innocent people.
Casey doesn’t know what she is missing though. The love between a mother and a child is precious. There is nothing like it. She will never have that anymore and that is so sad, but what is sadder is that little Caylee will never be able to give what love she has in her little heart to anyone here on earth anymore. She was robbed of her life and she didn’t deserve that.
Caylee, we still love you and the world waits for the day when you will be able to rest in peace, knowing the person responsible for your death will pay for it. We know you are happy playing with the other children in heaven now and no one will ever be able to hurt you again.
Jan Barrett
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Follow-up comment rss or Leave a TrackbackI bet le is just biding their time while they hang themselves and are going to showup one day at the Anthony home with arrest warrants for all. Surprise.
Thanks Jan for the followup! I don’t believe any of the Anthonys with the exception of Casey are involved in whatever happened to Caylee. However I do think that they are all involved in a coverup and much to my dismay I don’t know if all to protect Casey or to protect themselves for fear that it may have been what one or more of them did to Casey that set her off!
“High-quality English language analysis and editorial writing on the news.”
Your column, blog or whatever you call it is definitely not living up to the cite purports to be. This is so biased, prejudicial and completely un-insightful (sic). Grant it I am not a journalist, but I little more objectivity would not do this any harm. Ok, Casey is not getting the mother-of-the-year award, but she still entitled to the presumption of innocence as I m sure any one of us would want if we ever faced any criminal charges.
Moreover, your ad homenine attacks on her defense team is completely unnecessary. Jose Baez EARNED his license to practice law by going to college, getting into law school, graduating from law school and passing the florida bar. While his legal strategy is perhaps questionable, he is doing all he can to make sure constitutional rights are being given and to save Casey’s life which at the end of the day is all he may likely be able to do, considering the circumstantial evidence…
One final point, the prosecution in this case as a high burden to prove. Considering they are asking for the death penalty, not only must they prove that she killed caylee, intentionally or wilfully beyond a reasonable doubt ( considering they dont have an exact cause of death i.e- strangulation, gunshot etc) the state of florida will also require the prosecution to disprove all reasonable hypothesis’s surrounding the murder.
Jose EARNED his law degree??? By taking the Bar umpteen times??? By graduating last in his law class??? I guess if EARNED means to do the least amount possible to barely slide by after many practice attempts, then sure, he EARNED it.
Although the court may be required to presume innocence, KC is either guilty or innocent now. If she did it and the court never finds her guilty, does that mean she didn’t do it? Does that mean Caylee will spring back to life?
Presumption of innocence is a legal term which only applies in a court of law to keep the government from trampling the rights of individuals, not to give license to any whackjob to act as they please.
The 911 hijackers never went to court because they died knocking down the Twin Towers. Do you think they are innocent?
poch – This is a blog. It is editorial. Editorial equals opinion. This is NOT CNN. If you want news try CNN. If you want Editorial, Opinions, updates on these crimes (that you won’t find anywhere else) and a place to share info, then you’ve come to the right place. WELCOME! 😀
But I might suggest, quite respectfully, that you should proof your critiques prior to posting. Those little spelling and grammar errors detract from the point it is you are trying to make. Just a thought.
P.S. Baez failed the bar….several times….and instead opened an online Bikini business….which failed I might add…before finally passing the bar exam. He doesn’t pay child support, has had horrible financial issues, has had multiple bar complaints, and is the laughing stock of the defense attorney world. The man thought his conversation with an inmate (NOT a client) was privileged and not recordable. EVERYONE knows calls are recorded with the exception of atty/client conversations. (Being a successful atty: STEP ONE: LEARN THE LAW) He has repeatedly made a fool of himself with his “clueless” behaviors and motions. He has been smug, made contradictory statements and has belittled the legal process with his behaviors (STEP TWO: OBEY THE LAW). He’s all but spray painted graffiti on lady justice….and I suspect that will be next. But, that is just my opinion.
Hi, poch!
Just a couple of thoughts.
1) consider the word “editorial” and all it may mean.
2) Jose Baez: Would YOU hire him?
3a) 31 days
3b) Nanny????
Poch: it’s “ad hominem.” And “granted”, not “grant it.” You have no credibility, you write like an ambitious child. This is an opinion blog regarding the news, and the Barretts have every right to express a journalistic opinion. Repeat: o-p-i-n-i-o-n. This is not Kronkite or the evening news. If the Barretts were selected for Ms. Anthony’s jury, I’d agree with you. Until they are, I really wish uneducated whingers would put their mousepads away any time they had the urge to mutilate the English language.
I believe that Baez had to take the Bar eight times? Thats what I have read anyway. Had to try HARD to EARN his occupation! LOL. Poor George Anthony. I do not put it past Jose’ or Casey to try and blame this on him, and if it fails to just keep on going down the row to Cindy, and Lee. Heck they will throw anyone else under the bus. With Jose’s incompetence I am worried Casey will be granted a mistrial because of insufficent counsil. However Judge Perry seems to be doing everything to the book, as to ensure that does not happen. I guess we will see. Cant wait for things to speed up in this case.
if george was really willing to give his life for caylee why wont he do the same for his daughter. he should confess to the molestation and his sick perversion for caylee an innocent child. he is truely an obomination for helping to conceal his granddaughters death and too fuel his daughters neglect which he obviously contributed to.
This family makes me sick, they are ALL guilty in one way or another for Caylee’s death. Of course not directly, that would be Casey but indirectly. They had caught her in numerous lies and knew that she was stealing their money so how is it they didn’t think to check up on her dumb ass when she left for all that time and I don’t mean by phone. I would like to think that Casey accidently killed her and hadn’t planned it but something that freaked me out was the fact that on the very day she left with the baby she was seen at Blockbuster in the evening without Caylee. Why is it her parents didn’t question her on some of those things? All those times that she was saying the nanny had her, where was she? No one is stepping up and saying that they have babysat recently so who did? I think that Caylee was getting older so she was learning to talk a lot more and Casey knew it was time to do something or her little world would come down on her. If she was pretending to go to work but really hung out all day doing whatever Caylee would soon be able to tell JoJo and G-ma just what they really did.
Pooch is right. You all can nitpick at his/hers spelling all you want, but this site adds nothing of any value to this case. Just a bunch of hysterical broads venting their ignorant opinions.
Thank you, Simon for you eloquent opinion, Agree 1000%!
I too, beleive the beer and pizza psuedo suicide was another planned attempt to shift whatever suspicion away from the grandparents and garner sympathy. Too little, too late! Although I have a hard time thinking George could have done this to Caylee himself, I do think they knew from moment one what happened. Too many red flags and yapping mouth disease going on for them to be totally clueless what their daughter may have done. I do wonder a lot if the GParents told Casey get the heck out of the house, go away, make yourself scarce, we will do the rest. This ‘I gave you 31 days’ turned into they hadnt seen either Casey or Caylee for 31 days and that was a mistruth. Cant have it both ways. I think Cindy gave Casey 31 days to go find a sucker, a suspect and danged, if it didnt go mutant.
George Anthony may be lacking a spine and a conscience; he may be a lousy husband and father; he may be an inveterate gambler and an adulterer; he may even be a lousy son. But he’s not a molester.
tellithowitis: “hysterical broads”?
Wait a minnit, is this 1962 at the Sands in Vegas with the Rat Pack? Could you really be Frank?
Ill tell you one thing for sure. I might not know any of you personally, but you all would make a better impression as a law advisor in the courtroom than Boez ever could with his eight X bar exam/. He has messed up so much and That could be a big loophole for ol Casey down the line.
tellithowitis:
Have you been following this case closely since July 15,2008? Have you read all the transcripts and statements, seen all the LE and other videos, read all the PDF and other info about the physical evidence or watched the hearings?
Most of us have.
We are very very familiar with this case.
The only thing we might be tempted to become hysterical about is why it’s taking so darned long to get this case to trial and see some justice done for little Caylee.
What a joke @ 2:53:
If this is true, “he is truely an obomination for helping to conceal his granddaughters death and too fuel his daughters neglect which he obviously contributed to.” Isn’t it also true of Sindee?
For the Georges: You prefer to believe a pathological liar, thief, cheat and narcissist?
(That would be KC, by the way. Although the description could also fit Sindee).
Poch – How about this….this site gives a LOT of people an outlet for their frustration in regard to this case and keeps us from going postal (well, most of us). 😀
How about the fact that Jan and Simon have kept the names and stories a MANY missing children in the news when the mainstream media dropped them for the next big story. 😥
How about the fact that the site claims “High-quality English language analysis and editorial writing on the news.” MEANING the writers here at BNN provide analysis, editorial (OPINION) and a sounding board on stories that are important to those who frequent this site. It doesn’t say “Breaking News” or “Primetime News”…it says ANALYSIS and EDITORIAL. Look them up in the dictionary. 😯
We’ll wait here while you do your homework. Again, WELCOME to BNN. Please feel free to join us in our discussions! You’ll find some VERY knowledgeable people here who have done their research. Sometimes you’ll find family members post here on many of the cases. And sometimes you find out about cases that no one else is covering (Zach case comes to mind).
We welcome your input….but first…please go look up “analysis” and “editorial”. 🙄
Though I think George tried to tell the truth in the beginning, I think as the pressure built and he realized that his pressuring of Casey to start helping out financially and/or Cindy choking Casey because she found out about Casey stealing from grandpa’s account, led to the coverup starting. I don’t believe George molested anyone, I don’t know what kind of relationship Lee had with his sister but it sure seems strange! By assisting with the coverup they have all helped to heave suspicion on themselves.
IMO, Baez wants to win this case badly and even a life sentence will be a win to him!
Some of you may have seen this but for those who have not: Judge Perry has asked the state to reply to Bozo’s motion to seal his call from the inmate. JP also asked the state to give him a copy of the call which he will review “in camera” (in private, I guess).
It’s interesting because when Bozo brought this up at the last hearing, Judge Perry advised him to notice the Orange County Dept of Corrections. I think that’s because the calls may fall under their jurisdiction. There’s been no word on whether Bozo did that or not.
Article on wftv.com under heading for Casey Anthony.
Excerpt:
“Chief Judge Belvin Perry ordered the state to give him a copy of a recorded phone conversation between defense attorney Jose Baez and life prisoner Robin Lunceford in the case against Casey Anthony Tuesday.
Baez wants the recording sealed, claiming he did not know the state prison phone call was being recorded. He said Lunceford has information helpful to the defense about Casey’s jail pals.
The judge also wants prosecutors to weigh in on whether it was a legal recording before deciding whether it will go public or whether to have a hearing on the matter.
Who is Poch? This person must be a Bozo fan. Has see been keeping up with this high profile case. She would be right down Bozo alley to be on the jury. No wonder why there are sex offenders and killers out there on the streets today molesting and killing new victims. I am not exactly a Geo fan or CA, LE or KC. I believe Geo’s suicide note was staged, but if it wasn’t, that doesn’t make him unstable or uncredible witness. I wonder if the Defense is going to turn on CA or LE? or is Geo the perfect victim because he doesn’t stand up for himself and CA has taken away any of his manhood. Now Geo’s live has been living under a thumb and his life has been a living Hell. But he has let this happen to himself. But he just might take KC’s place, so she can walk the streets and be that Party Girl, and end up getting pregnant, and having another child. Then repeat this all over again. Since KC has not changed her story of the Zanny the Nanny, then why is the Defense spinning their wheels, and Tax payers money chasing down everyone that they can point a finger at, and none of these people’s name is Zanny or Nanny. How will all this come out in trial? I’m just afraid Geo won’t spill the beans of what all he knows. He just might go over the edge this time for real, thinking death or jail would be better than the living Hell he has been acustomed to.
m2c – I’m really wondering what is on that call Bozo is so DESPERATE to conceal! He’s already told everyone what they discussed – meaning he’s stated clearly that this inmate told him the other two gals made up the story to help get them a better deal. Okay, now that he’s told everyone what was said, why try to seal this call? What is he hiding? Hmmmmmm…come on Judge Perry…..release the call. This should be GOOOODDDDD! LOL More egg on Bozo’s face! 😆
Missy – even if Geo or Cindy confessed they would have to offer up PROOF. The case against Casey is SO strong. The State isn’t just going to roll over and say, “Oh, well, okay, so you did it….let Casey go”. Doesn’t work that way. They’ve already testified about going to get the car, trying to find Casey, not knowing where she and Caylee were….too many witnesses….the last person to have Caylee was Casey. Just going to LE and saying “I did it” means absolutely nothing. You or I could go do that but LE isn’t going to arrest us without proof. They already have all the proof they need to show Casey did this. There is nothing Cindy or George could offer to disprove it IMO.
Missy, iirc, at one time Cindy told LE that Zanny the Nanny could be what Casey called anyone who babysat Caylee, I think that was at the time she was pointing the finger at Jesse. Now Baez will take it a step further and point the finger at anyone who ever babysat Caylee and doesn’t have an alibi between Father’s day at the time the video of Caylee was taken and 31 days later when the police arrived at the house.
Off Topic – They’ve found the body of Norma Lopez – the 17 yo girl from California that went missing this week on her way home from school. Saying a little prayer for her family. 😥
Off Topic: And this, boys and girls, are why drug sales whether they be street drugs or prescription, are so very dangerous:
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CHALMETTE, La. – A two-year-old Chalmette girl is in the hospital after apparently ingesting part of her mother’s narcotic pills, officials said Tuesday.
The girl is currently at the Children’s Hospital after being transferred from the St. Bernard Health Clinic. She was listed as in serious condition as of 9 a.m. Tuesday, said St. Bernard Parish Sheriff Jack Stephens. As of Wednesday morning, the child is in intensive care at Children’s Hospital in New Orleans for further observation.
Stephens said the girl’s mother, 22-year-old Tiffany Tommaseo, had several types of narcotic pills in her home: the painkiller Vicodin, the muscle-relaxer SOMA, and Suboxin, a drug used for treating heroin addiction. Stephens said no prescriptions were found for those drugs, which are often illegally distributed, in the home.
Tommaseo was arrested on a warrant issued by a judge charging her with improper supervision of a child and three counts of possession of prescription pills found in her home on Tuesday, according to police. She was arrested Wednesday and jailed in St. Bernard Parish Prison.
The mother had dropped the girl off at a day-care center earlier in the day, but counselors saw she was lethargic and seemed to be suffering from health problems. They called Tommaseo, but she was unable to pick the child up, so the grandmother arrived and brought her to the health center.
Tommaseo was treated and released from University Hospital in New Orleans on July 20 after the agents found her in her home having a medical problem involving a possible drug overdose, Sheriff Jack Stephens said.
I agree about the call, JB. And I remember during the hearing that Bozo mentioned the other call with Joe Jordan and how LDB had said it would be illegal for her to even listen to it. So obviously he did not want HER to hear it either! LOL! There has got to be something on it that would get him in (more) trouble! And I hope it does.
JB- I would think that Baez would want the call out if indeed it shows that someone was lying about Casey!
You”re right there are people who confess to crimes they don’t commit, I don’t know if it’s for fame or they need a place to stay or they really think they did it. That’s why the police often keep some of the evidence out of the public eye so they can eliminate the false confessions!
JB, I know what you’re saying about the drugs but all of them could have been obtained with prescriptions and children have gotten hold of legitimate prescribed medications – as well as cleaning fluids etc – and died too.
Unfortunately we can’t legislate common sense as a requirement before people procreate.
Hi I was just telling someone I bet anything Jose will not be the attorney finishing this case.
Something is going to happen somewhere I just bet.
It could even be something that ends up getting him disbarred.
m2c- this is a 2 year old, the drugs must have been easily accessible for her to have gotten them. I have to have non- child proof caps for mom’s meds but I keep them in a locked cupboard and only I and my son have a key! So when the greatgrandchildren visit there is no access for them. Also have a locked closet in the garage for cleaning supplies, laundry supplies etc…
Lynnyola you could be correct. If all of the other attorneys quit Jose would have to be replaced with a death penalty qualified attorney.
Poch sounds like a disgruntled poster from the closed thread.
Hi, Lynnyola, I think you may be right about Baez being disbarred! I’m more interested in what he said in the phone call then what he was told!
Well, someone has to be blamed for Caylees death. Since Baez has run the course of suspects, now it is George. He may be guilty of cover up, of affairs and other things so why not just shove a murder charge on him too? This is so ignorant, when this one burns out, who then? Maybe the mailman or the milk man or maybe a cop or two. Those folks might want to relocate quickly or be named as the next suspect. Good grief, Charlie Brown!!!
I agree that what Baez said is more important because no one would be inclined to believe anything the inmate said as she is a convicted criminal and known to be a trouble maker.
When does Cindy get to have fingers pointed at her?
nannabee- I think Casey did date an officer from the Orange County Sheriff Office! The milkman or mailman, hmmm….. I’m glad I live in California!
Jules- after they clear George!
poch cause of death suffocation by duct tape in trunk of car. George loved that baby he would never harm er he is in bad shape i believe he was sincere even if it was just a way to scare Cindy.
if he did die i would charge casey for his death too. and as far doing this to save her i would fry her for doinng this to not jusyt caylee but her father.
bravo madhatter @202pm well said
If she wants to live she needs to plead and tell what really happened to Caylee.
If these lawyers keep dropping like they have been, Boez will either have to find another DP attorney to do Pro Bono or he might have to walk as well, he cannot handle this by his lonesome. I bet it will wind up in the lap of a Public Defender, Boez will get to keep his money and then he will write a book, under the name of someone else so he doesnt get backlash and life will go on.
I think before its all over, there will some form of legal repremand for the ants. They refused LDT, they refused to do a lot of things and then demanded immunity, immunity from what? Acting liek a jerk? Not a good enough reason. Nobody does that unless there is something to hide and I do believe they have hidden plenty and I dont just mean hairbrushes and other carseats.
shsyshay & LadyDay- ita
RE:POCH SAID – I didn’t know Baez read this site.
RE:TELLITHOWITIS – Sounds like Cheny Mason comment.
Let us all remember that when Cindy “overheard” Casey and Lee talking in her bedroom (after Mom tracked her down and dragged her back home) saying that Caylee hadn’t been seen in 31 days, the first (and I think this “excited utterance” is as important as the “dead body in the damned car” comment) thing Cindy says to Casey is “WHAT DID YOU DO?!” I repeat, “What did you DO?!” Then she punches the bed! She knows damned well what happened!
Cindy knew right then and there her child hated her more than she loved her own daughter and killed her so that she could NEVER have her. NO DOUBT IN HER FREAKING MIND! Or her brother’s mind, nor her father’s mind, and the smell in their noses (from the car) confirmed their very worse fears.
I believe that it’s possible Casey may have been molested by Lee (more than I would believe George crossed the line in some way, somewhere along the line) when she was younger. I think Baez is grasping at straws and may be hoping that he can sway someone, ANYONE, to think that prior aberrant behavior from a male member of her family is an acceptable reason/excuse for babycide.(Eventually, in order to save Casey’s life, they may finally admit to the court that “yeah Casey did it, BUT…..extenuating circumstances, psychological disorder, post traumatic stress blah blah blah blah George, Lee, and so on)
I cannot fathom why Lee gets all gooey around Casey but I do think he feels some guilt so maybe that is the one thing Casey said that is actually TRUE.
Iketa- ita, and the only person he may convince that George did it, is probably Cheney Mason because he is intent on leaving the courtroom arm in arm with Casey!
I wonder what Mallory thinks about Lee’s behavior towards the sister.
Iketa you are exactly right! When Lee said that the first thing his mother said to Casey was “what have you done” I almost fell off my chair. I hope the prosecution jumps on that at trial. I’m waiting to hear from Bozo that Jan and Simon are being investigated.
It was creepy that Lee mouthed I love you to Casey after she accused him of molesting her.
When you think about it, its sort of funny that Cindy would mutter ‘what did you do’ then in media she said Casey tells mistruths but is not a murderer, and started to blame Jesse, why? Probably because she didnt know he got dumped for others along the way; well, esplain Cindy, please esplain that one? Id like to see her esplain quite a lot. Id like to know why she was driving around w/Casey before ever going to the police station, why didnt she just drive straight home. I sometimes wonder if all this wasnt some combined effort to throw everyone off, right down to ‘what did you do’. Make the lie become a truth so to speak.
Id like to ask one dumb question. Didnt George claim that there was $50- of gas in those cans when he reported they were stolen? Hmmm one can was 2 1/2 gallon and the other was 1 gallon can, how could that possibly total $50-? I can now see how Casey ran out of gas if she filled up via the cans on the 24th and went empty on the 27th. I sure cant see how George got the car tank empty after he took it home from the towyard though.
ok, Im sorry for asking dumb repeat questions about the stupid gas cans, but it is questionable just the same. did anyone ever find those wedge things around his home?
For fun, I went to read the epass statements, I know, weve all been there before, but I find it ironic that the HHR(thought he drove a PT Cruiser)he was using(?) was around Goldenrod at 6:17pm on July 15th. I thought he was at work and didnt come home until 9ish? There is no other listing for tollroad charges after that time on that date, better yet is the fact Cindys car at on Airport Lane 6:17 pm and on same road 8:17 pm on July 15th. How can that be if Cindy was at home calling 911?
I thought my life began when I became a mother. A mother instictively falls in love with her babies at first sight. I was no different. I would lay down my life this moment for any one of my children.
My life took on a magically enchanting twist when my grandsons joined the family. I can’t for the life of me stop looking at them with an awe that tickles me to my very core, and I yearn to embrace their vital essence from the inside leaving tiny glitters of love and soul to remind them later that I was there. Again,I have fallen in love. With each smile, and every “I wuv you amma” (vinny age 2) or “I love you gramma” (logan age 6), I fall deeper and deeper. Harming them would be a fools death certificate. God himself could not stop this oncoming high-speed train. He can have his soul if he so chooses, but the rotting carcass will be food for the wolves. methinks
Ladyday, reguarding your july 21 @10:23 comment, If I remember that summer of 08, gas prices were like 4 or 5 dollars a gallon, so I can see the $50.00 for gas. Do youremember that? It was that summer right?
That is a very inspiring statement you wrote, MeThinks. I dont usually put any semi personal issues in blogs, but just the other day, I witnessed an incident involving a baby in the middle of a very heated and physical argument-no, not mine, but My temp gauge went ballistic and you bet, I called authorities because the babys father(?) was arguing and beating on his girlfriend(babys mother)and baby was in the middle of it all. Cops arrested the guy, bottom line, they dont tolerate that kind of stuff either. nobody should EVER put a child in harms way, in any way, shape or form. NOT ACCEPTABLE!
I dont know what is going to come out of this case, but since reading again and trying to figure out where some of these streets, toll roads, etc. are located, it is ironic that Cindy and George or whoever was driving one or the other cars, were in very close proximity on July 15th at 6:15 pm. I thought he went back to work around 3ish after the towyard, new job and all that and Cindy went home from work at 4:30ish. Also, Cindy said she heard Casey and Caylee breathing before she left for work. According to the Epass records for June 15th, she was on the road to work at 9:27 am, got to work about 9:47 am, if she was driving her Toyota. So Casey and Caylee would still be asleep around 9:15am. so, how does that place Casey going to any Zanny between 9:am and 1:pm? Sorry Im such a pest about this.
I dont think Boez has to investigate anything, the answers are right before his eyes, he needs to figure it out.
Oh I do remember that MeThinks, but how does $50- of gas fit into a total of 3 1/2 gallon gas cans? It would be more like $20-worth of gas. Then another question arises, why would Casey need those cans if she was with Tony? 3 1/2 gallons of gas and then she drives the cans back, couldnt he have just bought her some gas? I heard but not seen there were other gas cans involved, but that could be just rumor.
I know I saw the photos of the cans, the one with the tape and that one looked like it held more than 2 1/2 gallons, but it was Cindy and George who said on tv 2 cans, 3 1/2 Gal. total. Call me stupid, but does George need to store $50- worth of gas for his lawnmover? I mean if its a riding mower I could probably see that?
Have a good evening/morning.
My eyes are tired-Im so sorry, I got dates wrong, never mind about the Jun15th thing, I misread it, that was Fathers day, not a work day so so sorry!
I suspected all along that Bozo was going to blame this on George, I just thought they would wait until trial to play that card. Besides Casey he was the last one to see her, they have to blame someone in the home, there is too much evidence coming out of that house, so it has to be someone from the home and George is the only one that will fit, Bozo is a low down dirty dog and will do whatever it takes to get that murdering skank Casey off not because he cares about her, but for his own selfish reasons, and it would not surprise me in the least if Cindy doesn’t help him frame George. They all disssssssssgust me!
Jan I totally agree 100% with your column.
Methinks I love your post and can definitely relate. I know I have two granddaughters 1 and 4 they take my breath away.
M2C ,JB and Alex thank you for telling it like it is. You all did such a fine job that I do not need to add my 2 cents. All I will say is JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE!!!!
Legally recorded prison call between inmate Robin Lunceford and unknown male – male’s portion only:
“Yes, this is ummmm the attorney for uuhhhh KC Anthony.”
“Wow, am I eeerrrr glad you called with this ummmmm info. We are just about to aaaahhhh set up George as the uuummmmm Kronk, uhhhh I mean uhhhh murderer for the press and this conspiracy charge will uuuummmm fit right in. Can you say George is the eeerrrr ringleader?”
“Yeah, say he called you from the uuhhhhh Hawaii Motel when he tried to commit ummmm suicide. Talk about how he was uuuhhh afraid the cops were onto him, so he needed you girls to uuummmm make up some evidence against KC.”
“Uhhhhh Payment? You want uuummmmm money for this? I have to put in aaahhhh JAC request first, but I uummmm promise, right after that, check’s uuuuuuuuhhhh in the mail.”
Madhatter, Now ah don’t care who ya are, thats funny right there. lord forgive madhatter for that and be with the starving pigmmes in new guinnie (spellcheck through-out tupid post!)
GIT-R-DONE!
Madhatter, another statement by unknown male:
Now errr uhh did casy mention anything about while she was out on bail? uhhh such as uhh umm how she was able to pay me? OH UHHH well, yes, uhh but it was she who pushed me over the desk and began fondling my uhh errr private uhh parts…Oh yeah but uhh er umm can you say that she uhh promised to take uh me umm to umm “that little girls” uh umm body in exchange for uh sex on umm the desk, no wait can you just say that she uh umm said I was doing a good job in ummdefending um er her/ yes, I will pay you umm out of my umm own uh er funds…er uh oh nevermind your um just a murdering slut, who would believe er uh you?
JB< Where are you? I need a morning jump start…anything to add?
I always said that a “normal” family would not need to have criminal attorneys representing them if there was nothing to hide. Casey is the only family member that is charged with her daughter’s death, and the whole frickin’ family went and got defense lawyers for themselves. What normal family does that, especially since they weren’t charged for the murder. Only thing I can think of is there are plenty of Anthony skeletons in the closet (I am surprised they have room for their clothes, must be a huge walk-in. LOL!!)to make that family feel nervous that they may get out. I hope they do. I loved JVM Issues show last night when one of the panelists said the whole family are big, fat liars. Looks like Casey and her dysfunctional family ain’t foolin’ noone. Justice for Caylee can’t come soon enough.
Morning methinks! I’m here. Just catching up! LOL
I’m just thinking about the trial. I suspect George will be wearing a shock collar and when Cindy doesn’t like his answers she’ll give him a little jolt. George should look like 200 lbs of fried bacon by the time he steps down! LOL
And I picture Lee all giggly and staring at Casey like a star crossed lover…..little cupid arrows flying around him, love birds perched on each shoulder.
Conman will have Cindy so drugged by the time she gets put on the witness stand they’ll probably need to keep a mop handy to clean up all the drool. She was about in a coma for this last hearing. By trial she’ll be wheeling in an IV pole filled with drugs….to heck with the “water bottle”. 😀
Hello Razzy and boy aren’t you tellin’ the truth. What is with all the attorney’s? I’m surprised Cindy hasn’t hired attorneys for her dogs! And since she believes Caylee is still alive, heck, why not hire one for her too!
And yes, there are more skeletons in the Anthony closets than in most cemetaries! They don’t even have to decorate for Halloween! Between the skeletons and Cindy’s devil eyebrows, they’re ready for Halloween all year long! 😀
Theres my JB morning wake-up chuckle. Yes an iv drip with valuim would be better than her digging through her gum filled purse for her pill bottles…could be viewed as a distraction. Didn’t lee and malory have a baby? is it still alive? where was this child during the hearing? Oh I know…in the truck sleeping. What agood baby. I know that was in bad taste but hey this whole case leave an unsavory taste in the mouths of every loving parent/human being out there.jus sayin.
Oh yeah and Jb, Georges shock collar (that one kills me) will probably be worn on his ring finger as not to be so obvious.
LadyDay- I think it would not matter how many gas cans George had in the shed Casey would have taken all of them if they had any gas in it as she doesn’t seem like the type of person who would pay for something she could get for free. You made a click go off in my brain about Tony being with her when she got the cans. How did she explain to him why she needed two cans one would hold enough gas to get the car to a gas station! Did she not want to tell him she didn’t have any money? And the wedges, never really found out if George ever got them out of Casey’s car.
Hi, LookingForJustice!
madhatter & methinks- cute scenarios!
Razzy- no one knows Casey as well as her family and the lies she can tell and have people believe them! We are looking at this in hindsight not as things are happening I’m Sure even Tony Lazzaro & his buddies were blindsided by Casey! So it is not surprising to me that in this instance innocent family members would hire criminal attorneys.
JB- ROFLMAO!!!!!!
Razzy, Normal families don’t kill there children, or cover-up the murder of their grandchild.As for the skeletons in their closets, has anyone seen Malorys baby yet? As far as I know G and C don’t own vehicles with truncks so maybe the closet was the only place to hide it.
methinks- here in Sacramento County, the bailiff tells everyone to turn off their cell phones and get rid of any gum you are chewing. I’ve seen a bailiff walk up to someone and have them spit the gum out into a wastebasket, then warn them a contempt charge would be next. If a cell phone goes off in court the phone is taking away and the person is asked to leave the courtroom. I don’t know how long the hold the phone. So in Florida it’s apparently ok to chew gum, can you also have cell phones on?
Seriously though, Did Malory have her baby yet? probably not since that would certainly be front page news. I hope social services step in and remove the child atleast until they sort out the molestation issues involving george and lee. Is that wrong of me to think that? I personally don’t believe george touched casey, and well, if lee did, I bet it was a childhood experimenting thing and casey was a willing participant. jmo
methinks- Mallory looked pregnant to me in the picture on the cruise ship but I never heard any formal announcement. It would be interesting to know if she was pregnant, had a baby and whether the baby has a nanny!
methinks – if they want to hide the shock collar, I’m thinking they’ll conceal it a little further south on Georgie….if he has anything left to attach it to that is. I’m pretty sure Cindy took custody of his manhood when he said “I Do”.
God help the child born into this family. I can’t believe Mallory didn’t run for the hills when all of this started. I know I would have. There are some gene pools you just don’t want to take a dip in! LOL
Alex – Gee thanks for reminding me about the cruise. I’m still traumatized from all the pictures of Georgies hairy man boobs splashed all over the TV, internet and magazine! UGH! The twisted tatoo twins, Georgies giant diamond duo earrings! 😯 Cindy in a swimsuit…. MY EYES! MY EYES! Back to therapy I go! Alex, I’ll be sending you the bill! ROFLMAO
JB-ROFLMA!!!!!!
Do you guys think Lee and Mallory would name their baby Casey? LOL The baby will no doubt have the initials “CMA” so Lee can continue his freaky “CMA” campaign.
JB< yer’ killin’ me man!
Maybe they should name her “Carma”
ohh sorry.. is it a boy? jojo jr. Jose the 2nd?
For real though, I thought for sure last summer it was commom knowledge that Malory was pregnant.
methinks – hey, you’re the one running around the walking track with a computer chair stuck to your butt! And I’m killing you? 😆
I bet that cruise ship was always lopsided. If the Ant’s were in the front, all 2000 of the other passengers were pressed against the rail on the back of the ship.
If the Ants were on one side, all 2000 of the other passengers were pressed against the rail on the other side of the ship.
The poor captain probably had a hard time keeping that ship upright. I’m picturing shots from the movie “Titanic” when the ship was going down.
Seriously, if you notice in all the pics of the Ants on the ship there really is NO ONE else around! Dang, I guess the other passengers may have jumped overboard when they found out the Ants were on board! Personally, I think I would have had the captain drop me off at the first thing that resembled land!
And you know….George missed a GOLDEN opportunity. He could have gotten all romantic with Cindy….told her he wanted to re-enact that scene from Titanic…with the girl standing at the front of the ship….leaning out over the water….NOT hanging on to anything…..then….WHOOPS! No more Cindy! I mean, would anyone really question whether it was an accident or not? He’d probably get a heroes welcome when he got back to shore! A Dang ticker tape parade through Orlando! Stupid Stupid Georgie! Why kill yourself when you could eliminate the reason you wanted to kill yourself in the first place!?!?!?! 😉
Oh JB, did I say computer chair? I probably meant couch.
I can’t find anything online to verify that Mallory was/is pregnant. Everything says it is rumor. No facts. But Lee did disappear for a long time…and came back with gray hair! LOL…maybe Mallory had the baby and it looked just like Casey! That would give me gray hair! LOL
methinks – COUCH?! 😯 Dang, how is anyone supposed to pass you on the track with a couch stuck to your butt? Do you look like a hammerhead shark running around the track? 😆
Wow, I didn’t know that Mallory was pregnant. I had read that she finally kicked Lee out because she thought his relationship with his sister went way beyond the icky factor and too many things unsettled her. He moved back in with his parents. She also said Lee and everyone else in the Anthony “family” know exactly what happened. I can’t remember where I read that.(Maybe in an issue of “People.”)
CMA, that whole CMA thing at Caylee’s memorial was so ODD and disquieting. He even said he was PROUD of her.(I mean, REALLY ??? Can anyone wrap their minds around WHY or WHAT he’d find so noteworthy about her behavior?) I’m sure Lee WOULD want to name the baby after his psycho sister! RUN MALLORY RUN!
Iketa – well, we aren’t sure if they’re still together or if she was pregnant or not. I can’t find anything anywhere online to verify it one way or another. Where’s Tobias when you need her. That girl can find facts better than anyone I know. But she’s more into the Haleigh case I think.
Mallory’s last name is Parker (I think). I’ve looked everywhere I know to look and can’t find anything to verify whether they are still together or whether she was ever pregnant.
Mallory used to work at at restaurant called “Houstons” or something like that….may have been the hostess there….but left after the Casey/Caylee thing.
That’s about all I can remember about her….other than she is STUPID for not running away from these fruitloops!
Dang…where did everyone go? Did the fire alarms go off and I didn’t hear them? HELLOOOOOOOOOOOO? *sigh* 🙄
Long time reader, first time poster! You all are amazing! Both here and on the Haliegh case. I enjoy reading your posts and I really learn a lot from you guys.
Sorry JB, I’m back. had to go watch some joe cartoon.com videos…..funny sheet, alittle stupid but definately funny. I can’t remember when I heard about her being pregnant…but I thought it was common knowledge. I guess if it isn’t true, thats good and the world can be at peace for awhile. Maybe they are keeping it a secret (the birth) so the well-wishers won’t send bassinets or cribs to clog up the house when the Ants are convinced that babies sleep much sounder and longer in the quiet warmth of the trunk.
Merrigin, welcome to BNN. Usually we aren’t this mean spirited but when it comes to this family, well, I guess the steam must go off somewhere.lol again, welcome
I thought I saw Mallory in court next to Lee. I still don’t get his odd relationship with his sister though and how Mallory wouldn’t think it was very odd!
two peas in a pod?
Thanks methinks! The relationship between KC and Lee is a bit creepy. I’m an only child but my hubby is the oldest of 7. His younger siblings are close in age and close relationship wise, but my brother-in-law would NEVER mouth “I love you” to my sister-in-law in a situation like that. It’s like Lee has a hold over her or something. It’s all very odd.
Hi, Everyone!
At last week’s hearing I think Judge Perry asked Mark Nejame to submit something and MN said he would do that today. I’m not sure what it is – possibly a response to whatever happened at the sidebar.
Also, JP mentioned something about MN filing something regarding bad faith (about Bozo and Mason I guess) but I have not seen that either.
If anyone sees news info about either of those things, will you tell us please? TIA
JB it was reported that Mallory was at court wearing short shorts. I wouldn’t know her if my lawn mower ran over her – oh, THAT’S what she and Lee had been doing just before court! Yard work! That’s why they were dressed that way! lol!
And before people start accusing me of being a snob or whatever, yes, I do believe that even in 2010 people should show a little respect for a court of law. Yes, even in Florida (and other very warm states. After all it IS air conditioned inside!)
Long time reader,just wanted too say hello to everyone.
Love reading the informative post and comments.
I can not grasp how this family can disrespect Caylee the way they do.Why are they not shouting at the top of their lungs for LE to find the person that did this if Casey is innocent.
IMO…George and Cindy will be run over by the bus.Casey will say she has been protecting them since day 1.Not going to work Baez!!!!!
Glad too see everyone back on topic and all the bickering stopped.Have a great day everyone.
GaVicki – Welcome – don’t be shy! No need to just read! We’d love to have you post your thoughts and opinions! The more the merrier!
Merrigin – Welcome to you as well! You guys need to stop lurking and post! LOL We don’t bite – well not often…and usually don’t break the skin! LOL
Actually, this case doesn’t cause a lot of bickering. Pretty much everyone is on the same page and of the same opinion….BURN THE ANTHONYS AT THE STAKE! 😆
Now, the Haleigh case brings out the beasty in all of us…..too many twists and turns and opinions and theories.
m2c – haven’t heard or seen anything about it but if I do, I’ll post it here!!!!!
And you DON’T wear daisy dukes to court, I don’t care WHO you are! Ugh!
Even Lyndsy Lohan dressed somewhat appropriately for court! Who does Mallory think she is to show up in court with short shorts on?! 😯
Can’t wait till Tony Lazzaro is up in the witness stand. KC’s looks and mannerisms will be very interesting to watch.
Anyone notice when CA was testifying – Anytime CA stated the slightest bit of incriminating truth KC would look stone straight ahead and her eyes would glaze over a bit like she was in some kind of trance. Ironically, the manner is very obvious when she confirms that KC’s behavior that day seemed like she was stonewalling. It must be some sort of protection mechanism she’s (KC) been using for years.
jhajha – Yes, you’ve got her pegged. Casey sure got her undies in a bunch over things her mom said….she’d shake her head and start scrawling things down on the tablet for her attys. It was almost comical to watch.
Cindy looked like she downed a handful of valiums before she got there. I’ve never seen her so “calm”.
I didn’t see a picture of Mallory in her short shorts. I take it I didn’t miss much. Lee looked really tacky to be appearing in court.
Jules – I didn’t see the pic of Mallory either. I’m still recovering from the cruise pics of all of them!
Lee looked like he’d aged about 20 years since the last time I saw a pic of him. He’s really gone gray! I guess being related to Casey will do that to ya! 😆
Do we know if they’re going to televise the trial or not? Has that ever been decided? Anyone know? TIA
Dr Lillian Glass website has body language analysis of Lee Anthony on the stand. Pretty good read. Just google Lillian Glass!
m2c – this is all I’ve found…so far!
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ORLANDO, Fla. — Prosecutors in the case against Casey Anthony turned over a tape that the defendant’s lawyer does not want to be made public, WESH 2’s Bob Kealing reported Wednesday night.
The tape is a recorded phone call of Anthony’s attorney, Jose Baez, talking to a state prison inmate who claims she conspired with other prisoners to make up stories about Anthony.
This week, Judge Belvin Perry said he wants to review what’s on the tape behind closed doors before he decides whether to release it.
Baez said the inmate called him and he was unaware that the call was recorded.
Anthony faces first-degree murder charges in connection with the death of her daughter, Caylee.
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Hopefully Perry will rule on it next week sometime if not before! I have a feeling Bozo said or did something very damning to his case on this call. I don’t know why else he’s freaking out so bad about it because they’ve already disclosed the reason for the call. And if that is the case why aren’t they shouting it from the rooftops? Because Bozo blundered yet again! LOL
Oh COME ON Perry! Release it! The Sunshine Laws dictate that it should be released upon request!
Jan and Simon, keep up the great work your doing with BNN. I for one love your editorials and the opinions of your bloggers. You both work tirelessly for the missing and keep us informed on the players. Justice is all we seek and ask for. Thank you bunches! 🙂
Karri – yeah, been to Dr. Glass’ website before but thanks for reminding me about her. Just had a good chuckle at her analysis of George, Cindy and Lee! I hope Cindy reads the one about George not wanting to be anywhere NEAR Cindy! ROFLMAO – that one should start some fireworks a home! LMAO
I think if looks could kill CA would be 6′ under. MOTY looked like she wanted her dead! G sat there with a look on his face like he wanted to strangle someone! IMO
Jan I agree with your article 100%. You have all their numbers!
okie – George looked bored most of the time to me. I don’t think he would have been there if Cindy hadn’t made him go to show what she THINKS is a united front! They all just look like a bunch of miserable, self-absorbed, lying, sacks of cow poop to me!
Thank you for the info at 3:53, JB. I think JP asked the prosecution to respond to Bozo’s request to seal it so let’s watch for a motion about that. Although,maybe the prosecution doesn’t care. I get the impression they pick their battles which is very wise. So we’ll have to wait and see.
Hi, all newcomers to BNN! Good to see so many on Caylee’s “virtual” side of the courtroom.
m2c – keep me posted if you hear or see anything! I’ll keep trying to watch for Perry to make a ruling as well. I hope they release it because my curiosity is about to kill me. What is Bozo trying to hide?! Must be a doozy! LOL
m2c – if they seal it will it still come out during trial or after trial or does sealing it mean sealing it for good? Just curious!
Hi, JB! I think Bozo wants it sealed forever. But I guess the Judge could do whatever he thinks is best. And also the state could submit a motion about it for further consideration – either now or later.
Hi Everyone! I saw Mallory in the courtroom but didn’t get to see her shorts as she was sitting down next to Lee.
Do any of you think its strange that Lee says things about his mother, i.e., she choked Casey when they got into a fight when Cindy got back from visiting her dad on father’s day, Cindy hit the bed next to Casey trying to get info from her etc… It seems like Lee was starting a defense for Casey from the beginning and he doesn’t seem to be afraid of her, he even moved back home to help them financially! So odd!
well JB your right about Cindy and her ‘united’ front with the “family”! (cough)Still makes me ill just to look at them. If I had washed the decomp from my daughters slacks and cleaned a car trunk, I’m pretty sure I would be in jail now, much less telling LE the car smells like a dead body has been in it! False reporting to get LE faster! But yet they get away with it…???
okie222- I don’t think LE or SA wants to go there. If they charge her with false reporting that would mean they are saying there was not a body in the car. The Defense would love it!
I wonder why Boez’s investigator is not looking for an alive Caylee or is Dominiccki still on that trail? I think that utterance was said to only build up the momentum that Cindy has gone by the wayside and cant make any good decisions in court, short of dellusional and all that-Cause for dismissal on her testimony-hope NOT!. Like I said before, did she only wash the pants because of the smell, (washing them and left for work, shoot, no wonder the machine broke down, yea right) or did she wash them because somebody elses DNA was on them? I say that only because she didnt do a very good job cleaning the trunk and they seemed to own every cleaning machine known to man to steam clean that trunk liner in a matter of minutes.
OT. I had to go to a courtroom today and the rule is you dress accordingly-no tank tops, no flip flops, etc. Within minutes I had seen at least 100 peeps in that type of get up. Court personnel were the complete opposite, looked like they all came from New York; winter weather/color type of clothing.
I know Cindy was there to answer Q’s about the call, etc., but I wonder why her lawyer didnt go up to the table when she spoke? He is bare minimumn advising them. Always found it strange they got a criminal lawyer, why? Immunity deal, Why? I bet we will all find out what the heck they are hiding.
I do seem to remember that there was a rumor about Mallory being w/child, but that was about 3 years ago. Danged long incubation period if true-lol!
WFTV says Judge Perry got the tape of the CALLS
between the inmate & Baez. Other Media just say a call.
Does anyone know if there was more then one call between them?
okie222 @ 7:25 pm – You said, ” False reporting to get LE faster! But yet they get away with it…???”
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Maybe not! I believe Linda Drane-Burdick got Spindee to testify (confess), under oath, to doing exactly that (during the last hearing)! lol! I don’t know if there is a statute of limitations on that kind of thing but the state sure has a pile of evidence against C and G.
I expect the state is biding it’s time and taking first things first. KC, the Killer and then her two accomplices, the Squirrels (C and G).
LOL, m2c! I do beleive LDB will corral those wayward squirrels and their nuts all in due time. I dont believe there is a Statute of Limitations on things like conspiracy, co-involvement, willful interferance and omission in a death. The trial hasnt started yet and these omissions, etc. are still being generated. If the trial was over lets say for a few years and then things started coming out, its after the fact, but it still would hold weight. Sort of like when somebody swears this and this happened when it didnt, trial is over and person is in prison for 20 years, then somebody pops up and says I just said that because I thought it would help or whatever and it actually can be a prisoners blessing, if wrongly convicted when more parties were involved. When somebody puts themselves in the act of a crime, like the squirrels have done, it just does not go away.
Goodmorning Everyone! M2C ,I believe you are right. Cindy did confess to false reporting. I live in Florida and I would never enter the court room in the attire that Mallory is said to have been wearing. To me it shows a complete disrespect for our court system, but then again look who she ( Mallory) keeps company with.
Methinks, you are on a roll this morning. You and JB both. LOL!!!! to you both.
Jan and Simon thank you so much for all the hard work of keeping these stories in the news.
I just read something in the Orlando Sentinel that Mark NeJame filed a motion today to quash the previous court order because the KC team is acting in bad faith. Ya think! It’s clear Bozo just wants to harass the volunteers or least dig into their backgrounds and try to find another scapegoat if the GA thing doesn’t work out. IMO
And this from Hal Boedecker, apparently poor KC doesn’t have any money for junk food now…
There was a little Casey Anthony news today, and WFTV-Ch. 9 supplied headlines. Anthony doesn’t have any money in her jail account, WFTV reported tonight.
How did this come to be? “George Anthony has not put any money into jail account for nearly two months, not since the news broke that he wrote Casey an angry letter responding to her allegations of sexual abuse,” anchor Martie Salt said.
Yes, such allegations would anger a parent.
The bottom line? Anthony owes the jail more than $41, Salt added.
Merrigan- while I think the defense is looking to find a TES person to blame it on or at least give them 15 minutes of shame, the original order was way too restrictive, not being able to take notes, they could have done the investigation on Casey’s dime (whever she got the money from to pay Baez) if they originally could take notes, now the people of Florida are going to have to pick up the expense.
I believe Casey is Guilty but doesn’t mean she isn’t entitled to a fair trial.
Hi, Alex! Nejame was trying to protect the privacy of inncent TES volunteers. I commend him for that. Bozo’s unlimited note-taking could have just been names and addresses to feed a database – as someone else suggested – to see if anything pops up. Bozo can’t be trusted – he’s a sleazy slimeball liar.
What Bozo COULD do before and has to do now too is put a tab on any person’s file that he wants to. Then the court will decide about it.
And I’ll bet Judge Perry is going to keep a sharp eye on what Bozo does with the info.
m2c- I understand that and I totally agree with what you are saying but it’s incredulous to think an investigation could or should be restricted no memory only! Look at all the documents that the State released some are sheer nonsense, i.e. letters to Casey! Those people deserve whatever they get in the way of publicity! I don’t want any innocent person dragged through the mud but people who get involved need to know that there are lawyers out there who will do anything to win their case (and I mean both sides) and your goodwill be damned if it interferes with what they want to prove. Judge Perry is a very astute, well versed Jurist and I believe he will do whatever it takes to give Casey a fair trial not only because of appellate issues but because it is the right thing to do. Baez made a big mistake on having the first judge removed. He would imo, have had an appealable issue on the TES info.
Hal Boedecker’s story that KC doesn’t have any money for junk food now will surely prompt the crazies to send her a few dollars.
Hi, Jules @ 3:46! I think that’s Sindee’s plan. Why should she and G have to fork over any $ to support their daughter when the State of Florida and some crazies will do it?
Hi, Alex!
I agree that Bozo goofed big time when he got rid of Strickland. I wonder if maybe he didn’t really mean to get rid of him but just wanted to embarrass him or something? But it backfired!
Anyway, Bozo has always been able to sit and read ALL the 4,000 files. Linda Drane-Burdick did it. Even Sindee and G’s lawyer, Conway did it. All they or Bozo need to do if they see something of interest is put a tab on the page.
Then they can get that file. Also, TES already turned over the files of the only people anywhere near the actual area where Caylee’s remains were found. Other people the defense have mentioned were at the closest – 3 football fields away.
Unfettered access is a license to harrass people. Good people. And there is a precedent for it with a case involving blood donors.
Anyway, Mason already told the media that the area was impassable at the time! lol!
That’s exactly right! It was! So it’s clear to me that Bozo is acting in bad faith.
I read on marinade Dave’s sight that Casey’s commisary account was almost 50.00 in the hole! He said George has not added money to her account since she accused him of sexual molestation. I say personally, way to go George! It high time he stood up for himself. As I have stated several times, I believe he is done with her. Which would be great! I know she is his daughter, but he is the one I had hopes for since the beginning! Hopefully she will not get money anymore. She does not deserve goodies, and hair ties, shampoo and conditioner. I my opinion she deserves nothing. Let her rot.
m2c- Now they can put a tab on it but not under Judge Strickland’s orders. So before they had Judge Strickland removed they had an issue for appeal but by getting rid of him poof Judge Perry took it away from them and gave them sticky tabs to aid in Casey’s defense. Major booboo on the part of Baez or whoever put the thought into his head to insult Judge Strickland in such a public way! And to boot he gave Marinade Dave a larger audience!
I wonder if Casey really knows what her defense is doing to her case! To me, it looks like they are going for a really long and winding Made for TV Movie and Mr. Baez & Casey have not found the actors they want to portray them!
Even if the crazy send her money they will have to get her out of the hoke first. Plus the jail charges $1.50 a day, and that wouldnt take to long to put her in the red itself, for the jail fee’s. I think it is wonderful she has nothing, when she goes t order her chili cheese dip, they can only tell her that her account is in the hole. Imagine how pissed she gets from that news.
Oh i see where ppl have already commented on this, sorry!
Hi Karri,
Do the Florida Jails allow credit? I think in California jails you have to have money on your books in order to purchase something. I don’t even think as liberal as San Francisco is that they allow credit!
Why would Jose and Cheney need to take notes of the TES records?
The order was to review the documents and if they found anyone they felt was in any way connected to the discovery site, to request that person’s file. NeJame’s office was ready to make a determination then and there if that record would turned over or if there was a problem, to take it back to the judge for final decision. If no problem, then an instant copy for the defense of the record in question – on which they could note to their heart’s content.
This is exactly the same restriction by which the state and Brad Conway worked and neither had a problem with it, even though each spent multiple hours pouring through the records.
The bottom line is there is no information there for the defense, there has never been any exculpatory evidence there, the entire proceeding is an exercise in drama for the sole purpose of delaying the trial. Cheney and Jose chose to make a mockery of the judge’s order, even though it was given twice, to insult and ridicule Mark Nejame and his staff, to invite the media to publicize their dramatics, and to smear the name of TES – an organization which has dedicated itself to helping those in need.
Untimately, this is the same defense strategy they are using for all the evidence, as seen in the debacle over the CD’s of tips. Jose cries he doesn’t have them, then cries they only turned over the psychic tips. Of course, as they could only turn over tips for which the investigation was closed, which at the time was the bogus psychic tips, especially since Jose was crying the police were not following up on tips. Then, once the other tips were closed and made available, he continued to cry he did not have them, even though he was told several times they were available. He waited another year. Then, he cried about them in court again just a short while back. Again, he was told they were available and the funds were approved. Again, he complained about not having them at the next hearing. Again, he was told they were available, but then he claimed the funds were not approved. Judge Perry made it clear the funds were approved and further delays would not be tolerated.
Now we know that Jose has spent about $4,000.00. However, the CD’s were a little more than $2,000, yet Jose has spent the bulk of the $4 grand on a PI. So, do you think he ever picked up those tips?
Madhatter @ 4:32 – Terrific post!
I think Bozo uses the televised hearings to spew his whinings to try to sway the public into thinking the Big Bad LE and state of Florida are treating him and his client badly.
Most people don’t know enough about this case or what’s happened before to know any different. He’s grandstanding and flat out lying. IMO this isn’t the only thing he’s done “In Bad Faith.” That sums up his entire strategy and style imo.
Madhatter- The State and Brad Conway don’t need to look for exculpatory evidence, it’s a joke that they even went, they didn’t need to take notes because there was nothing there to help their cases and they knew it! The defense on the other hand IS looking for exculpatory evidence and wheter it is there or not they have the right to take note of anything they deem may be exculpatory.
What is the State’s need of the letters from admirers of Casey? Totally useless but they still looked, they still copied and they still released it for us to view. I see no difference for the defense! I don’t think it will help their case but it is one less appeal for Casey!
Baez filed a second motion to seal the inmate phone call.
http://www.wesh.com/news/24372419/detail.html
Alex, about the letters. Bozo was complaining that the state had not released everything they had, so Judge Perry told the state to go look for anything and everything and release it. They did. Hence the letters. I really doubt the state will be using them in their case. They don’t need them. But they’re available to the public, may have been reviewed by the state, and so the state released them. If they had not released them Bozo would complain about that. Now, of course, as with most everything he whined about getting – and got – he can’t be bothered to read them and is apparently using them to try to get a delay in the deadlines and probably the trial. What a sleaze.
m2c, exactly, the state is not using those letters and don’t need them but if you think that those letters weren’t read by the state I would say you are surely mistaken. I can’t believe that anyone would think that they can do an investigation and not be permitted to take notes, retain that information and accurately complete their investigation without documentation.
You may not be aware but on this website there have been posters who have gotten upset when someone can’t remember where they read or heard something. This is nothing compared to a court case in a life or death situation!
Alex, I think the state would feel obliged to look at the letters in case there was something there pertinent to the case. They can’t be blamed for that. And it isn’t their fault there are so many of them. I don’t know if the state will use anything in them or not but they are obliged to turn them over to the defense and did. So I don’t see how any fault can be placed with the state for that.
As far as the note-taking on the TES docs. The defense has always been able to read every single file AND tab or sticky or somehow request any file they wanted. So why the “need” to take notes “willy-nilly” so to speak? I don’t see that.
I think the state and both judges have bent over backwards to be more than fair to the defense and avoid appeal issues. But some times the defense is over the top. They can’t just get every single thing they want the WAY they want it. imo
Doesn’t matter. So far this time they can take notes. We’ll have to see what happens as a result of Nejame’s bad faith motion.
m2c- No, Judge Perry is the one who granted them the ability to put sticky notes on the files and request them.What do you think Mark NeJame was so upset about!
I really think it is Mark NeJame who is showing bad faith, and I like him! So sad because now this is going to drag on and cost the people of Florida additinal funding which at this period of time can be used for a more worthwhile purpose!
At first Cindy cried that Casey stole great sums of money off her, eventhough she didnt scream about it until Caylee went ‘missing’; George backed up that claim, but then they turn around and George was supporting her commissary account, not by $25, or $50 amounts, but by $100 amounts. Go figure! People who say they have no money just dont do that.
I think after all this time, somebody in Camp Boez had to have read a lot of the documents, no excuse. I cant wait to see how many Motions in Limmine get filed just before trial starts. Going to be a mess.
Karri (re:417) Spot on analysis! I respect George for throwing his hands up in the air and saying, without words, “F**k you, you ungrateful little snot! I’m through with you!”
Cindy is jumping through hoops trying to “show” Casey that she “has her back NOW,” and that is why she is still lying up the yin yang. It’s occured to me that if Cindy said (putting words in her mouth) “You know what? We had a screaming fight beforehand. I threatened to take and adopt her child. It pushed her over the line. I feel so guilty in 1001 ways, you can’t even imagine. My conscience can’t comprehend her behavior, but I believe quite strongly that I unknowingly contributed to her breakdown.”
Does anyone think that speaking from the heart like that might have swayed some potential jurors just a little bit? I know I would have respected both Anthonys if they had spoken compassionately and sincerely, as George did in the beginning, and pleaded for Casey on the basis of acknowledging Cindy’s hand in the ensuing events (Casey is ultimately completely responsible for her daughter’s death, but perhaps more honest comments like this would have provided some mitigating circumstances.)
Alex, it’s a shame that Mallory is still with Lee, partaking of the familial Kool-Aid. Lee is a bratty, smug, and self satisfied poor excuse of a human being. I agree that no one has Caylee’s back. Her death seems to be as insignificant as a smushed bug on the sidewalk.
Iketa I agree about Lee! perhaps he will start putting money on Casey’s account now. According to Cindy, Caylee is still alive maybe Lee swallowed that too. Mallory has to know something creepy is going on in the family!
I then guess in Georges eyes Casey is not the Boss, the CEO any longer? To remember that now just shows they were kowtowing to Casey, instead of going face to face about what happened. One big, sick game they are all playing.
Hi, Alex @ 7:35 pm – I finally found NeJame’s Bad Faith motion which has a lot of the history of this situation. It was Judge Strickland who originally gave Bozo the ability to flag files of interest – long ago – and get a copy of those files. IF NeJame had a problem with some of the files, then the judge would review it in private. That’s the way it’s been since the beginning.
I’ll post the link in my next comment.
Quoting an excerpt from the Bad Faith Motion:
“10. On April, 5,2010, the Defendant, through her counsel and TES, through its counsel were heard on the Motion to Modify the Court’s Order. The Honorable Stan Strickland entered an Order denying the Defendant’s Motion to Modify the Court’s Order on Defendant’s Application for Subpoena Duces Tecum for Documents in the Possession of Texas Equusearch. The Order states in pertinent part: Having now reviewed all of the exhibits submitted, this court sees no reason to modify its original Order of August 27, 2009. The files are still available for review at the office of Mr. NeJame, and, IF FLAGGED FOR REVIEW and no agreement can be reached, this Court remains able to schedule an in camera review followed by a ruling.”
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It was also stated that both the state (LDB) and Brad Conway had reviewed all the TES files long ago, they had tagged some and NeJame had given them the files they wanted.
When Bozo and Mason made their recent, short and FIRST (partial) review, NeJame gave them the files they flagged, too.
Of course the files they asked for were for people who had been three football fields away from the site where the remains were found.
Why is the defense acting this way? Because all the defense ever wanted was to manufacture reasonable doubt and have the ability to harass searchers who had nothing to do with the area Caylee’s remains were found. And to trash and possibly destroy TES.
Site for PDF of Mark NeJame’s Bad Faith Motion regarding TES files. Put the usual http and w’s at the beginning of it.
ninthcircuit.org/news/Hig…07-22-2010.pdf
What NeJame was upset about was that when Strickland gave the defense the ability to read and flag all the files:
1) Bozo tried to send a third party copier company to make copies of all 4,000 files. That was NOT what Judge Strickland allowed.
2) When that failed, Bozo never reviewed any files and did not pick up the 32 files NeJame had for him – of people who really were in the vicinity of where the remains were found (and said it was flooded and impassable). NeJame had those 32 files couriered to Bozo.
3) Bozo made false claims about those files and others (Joe Jordan and Laura Buchanan).
4) Bozo (with Mason) made his first visit to see the files very recently and were obnoxious – and still didn’t review all the files.
NeJame NEVER acted in bad faith. He acted in accordance with the judge’s orders every time. The defense did not. That is bad faith on their part.
Good A.M. Bloggers and Bloggerettes,
Very good m2c, I remember Boez tried to send a third party in to copy all that stuff. Usuallly files, called discovery, have to be shared between both counsels before start of trial. This does not include hiring outside parties to be privvy to those files. Doesnt Boez have a secretary or a paralegal in his office?
When hasnt Boez been obnoxious? From Day one, he has been acting like his azz is up in the air, he has made statements that he has never followed through on, he has been rude to certain media reporters. If Casey was so innocent as he had claimed, he would not have had to go before the media to say that, he had to back up with proof to the courts, he could have had a special emergency meeting, but that never happened either, instead he is going to let the case go on although he has all this proof, Well, Boez, show it now or forever hold your peace.
I think instead of spending money on an investigator for good ol George, the money would have better served Boez if he had hired a few law students to do his paper shuffling and Doc reading, obviously, he has no time to do this. I am surprised his investigator charges so little per hour, tells me a lot! CHEEP.
Comment has been deleted because of the disrespect for The US Military in the comment.
Jan Barrett – BNN Editor
Hi m2c- I found the information you cited & more on WFTV, we will have to agree to disagree about whether or not Mark NeJame acted in bad faith as to allowing the defense access to the TES Records. I would have expected that someone under the auspicious of the court would have overseen the Review, not a volunteer, Bill Fitzgerald, from TES, this is my opinion is a conflict of interest. However Mason & Baez did plop down the $12 for an hour of review, and for whatever reason, another appointment for Baez, who knows with Mason the review was not completed. Again my opinion is that the Defense should have beeb able to review & copy records from the beginning any information that they then deemed material should have gone to the judge in camera for review as to whether it would be admissible or sealed!
I do enjoy the spirited debate with you, but want you to know that I in no way feel that Casey is innocent but she does deserve a fair trial. As in many cases it is suppose to be innocent until (I prefer unless as until implies it’s just a matter of time) proven guilty but most times an innocent person must prove themselves innocent or at least not guilty. So much is stacked up against a defendant but I do like the Sunshine Laws where there is reciprocal discovery as it gives both sides a chance to show their side of the argument in a fair and prepared way. It allows a defendant to spend money wisely on pertinent investigations rather then waste it on wild goose chases. Here though I think the defense if not reined in would spend money on wild goose chases to the detriment of the taxpayers of Florida. However it appears our argument is mute as the Defense isbacking away from the TES Records. Wonder if they found another sucker to pin this on. Perhaps Lee as his court appearance was eerie!
Hmmm..So now the defense has changed its mind?
http://www.wftv.com/news/24373689/detail.html
Alex, I think the problem is that you disagree with Judge Strickland’s rulings and you are blaming NeJame for it.
You think JS should have let Bozo have copies of all the files and personal info of all 4,000 searchers – or be able to copy it down somehow. JS did not think that was warranted. He allowed Bozo access to PERTINENT information. If there were any disagreements MN and Bozo, JS would have decided on them.
Nejame acted in “good faith” meaning he acted according to the law and in compliance with the Judge’s order. Bozo did not.
Whats new? Boez changes his mind more often than a woman does. If he was practicing anyplace else, Im sure hed be booted out of the law profession. He makes an ambulance chasing lawyer look almost respectable.
Hi, Granny!
Gosh that article was SO poorly written. I think it’s based on NeJame’s motion in which he quoted Mason saying to the media not long ago that the area where Caylee’s remains were found were “impassable.”
Which is exactly what TES has been saying all along. And which also negates any reason for the defense to have TES’s records! LOL!
Bozo is probably chewing out Mason as we write!
ROFLMAO! But I’ll bet Bozo will try to backpeddle and “re-write” history and pretend Mason meant something else.
I agree, the article was poorly written, but at least it proves that MN was correct-and once again, the defense screwed themselves.
Hi, Granny23! I agree. I only hope Judge Perry sees it that way, too.
JOSE BOZO BAEZ IS THE LAUGHING STOCK BUTT END OF EVERY DEFENSE ATTORNEY JOKE…. can we at least give him credit for providing us with some humor? the cartoon is coming out soon… stay tuned
to all who are wondering why lee continues to kiss caseys ass… he is obviously afraid to death that she will reveal more to the public about his dirty deeds. people keep questioning why the anthony’s continue to behave like they have been. isnt it obvious folks….. eeerrrrr i thinks they haves sumtin to hide…. DDDDUUUUHHHH!!!!
WHAT A JOKE WITH ALL DO RESPECT WHAT MAKES YOU THE JUDGE THAT GEORGE IS GUILTY OF NOT ONLY TOUCHING CASEY BUT CAYLEE HE IS INNOCENT
I DON’T PUT IT PAST THEM NEXT TO BLAME SHIRLEY PLESEA CASEY’S GRANDMA OR HER GRANDFATHER THE ONE IN THE HOME.SHE TRASHED THEM TOO IN HER LETTERS CUZ SHIRLEY CONFRONTED HER FOR THE THEFT AND TOLD I LOVE YOU CASEY BUT I DON’T LIKE YOU.
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