Last Friday the prosecution unleashed around 5000 pages of discovery evidence on the unsuspecting public. Much of it was boring, but that is the way it works. You have to find the gems on a seemingly endless beach of sand. Some gems are beneath the surface, they are hard to find.
The release included a transcript of an interview with Richard Grund. I think it would be fair to say that he had little good to say about the Anthony family. (Link is here)
I have talked to Richard Grund several times, he is an honorable man, a man that has credibility. Credibility is an interesting word, and one that could not be used to describe anyone in the Anthony clan.
Our favorite Pro-Bono lawyer Jose Baez, and his team of poison dwarfs are seemingly headed in a new direction. For a while they seemed bound and determined to bury Meter Reader Roy Kronk, they have dropped that option.
Another target was the illusive Zanny the Nanny. That holds as much water as a leaky bucket!
The next victim(s) are Richard and Jessie Grund. This is a ridiculous idea!
If there were two people that actually cared about Caylee Anthony it was Jessie and his father Richard. They are two people that are above reproach.
Both are destined to be deposed by Bozo Baez next month.
It is clear that the Grund family are the latest, in a series of ever disappearing targets!
What puts up the hackles up on my neck is that Baez and his team of ‘experts’ are being paid by the tax payer!
Richard Grund does not have a huge amount of money, he must comply with the deposition order. But here is the wild card, apparently Bozo Baez loves to give almost no notice of these events.
The depo’s should be interesting. Bozo Baez is walking into a scenario that he will not like. The good news is that when you are depo’d you can demand a copy. I’ll bet money that these depo’s will make the press, and Bozo Baez will look like an idiot (a situation he is familiar with).
Oh this story is just heating up!
Simon Barrett
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Follow-up comment rss or Leave a TrackbackI do beleive the Grund Family cared & loved Caylee no less then George & Cindy. They too were deceived by Casey, as they babysat for her when she had no job!
I think whatever happened the day Casey left, has put an unbearable pressure and guilt upon Cindy. She may be thinking that she should have continued to spoil Casey instead of the harsh interaction they surely had over Grandpa’s checking account, and Caylee would still be around.
George gave up his LE job for Cindy, as Cindy wanted to live a wealthy life. He was unable to do it but continued chasing the dream and things got worse financially. I don’t beleive George did anything to Casey, as if that was true when George was going to get the divorce, Cindy would have thrown him under the bus instead of pay him support!I have no idea about Lee as he has acted quite peculiar throughout this ordeal! It appears to me that Jose Baez wants George & Lee to throw themselves under the bus to save Casey and I don’t think he cares if it’s the truth or not. It’s so sad that we have so many young people who think only of themselves.
Ya wanna compare hackles with hackles, Simon? Every time I have a thought process on this deplorable family unit, I have 30 second thoughts of going to Orlando and snatching somebody bald headed. Talk about a p me off moment!
does Mr. Grund not have an attorney? He should have! Yes, he will be presented with a copy of his Depo and he will be asked to sign it after reading it over. What do you mean he has no notice of when it will take place? Baezzzzz has to write a letter and set it up like an appointment, there is also paperwork to complete prior, Interogitories I think they are called, that more or less outlines the type of questions that will be asked. I have always heard you make your answers short. Yes. No. Do NOT add to it unless asked, do not answer until question is complete. Never ever offer more infomation than you need to. An ‘I Don’t remember’ is a wonderful answer as well. Best of luck to Richard and Jesse, of course to all the rest who were thrown under that ever revolving bus, the one that is going to get stuck in nuetral before too long.
Rwv. Grund has an attorney and has already won one battle in court reference Jessie.
W/all due respect, please do your homework.
You’re right, Simon. Baez is opening a can of worms that he will no doubt be sorry for later. Casey better try for a deal because the defence is growing weaker by the moment!
There’s a lot of interesting stuff in the docs released on Friday (IMO). Letters to monster from Sindy (supportive on the surface but typically sick and twisted underneath – on purpose or subconscious?) And in one letter Sindy mentions that Bozo won’t be able to take their letters to monster anymore so apparently he’d been smuggling them in against jail rules for a year!
The letters from George are pathetic and creepy. And seem to stop after monster accused Lee and him of molesting her. Of course there could be more letters from both Sindee and George Marie that have not been released yet.
Also a letter from Tracy, the Padilla employee who stayed in the house with monster when she was out on bail. Padilla needs to review his hiring practices because Tracy drank the KC koolaid. Unbelievable.
There are also letters from strangers – sad, sick, supportive and some great ones that are NOT supportive!
You can find it all at the link below. Just scroll down the page and click on what you want to read. This also includes the transcripts.
http://www.wftv.com/index.html
I don’t even pay attention to this case anymore. Sure, Caylee deserves justice, but our truest reward is the one we find in Heaven. I don’t care what happens to Casey. If she doesn’t come clean and ask for forgiveness then God will take care of her, as he does for all of us. If she lives the rest of her life in jail at least she won’t be able to reproduce and harm any other innocent children. We all know she did it, and it’s up to her now to tell the truth. Casey is a tremendous burden on everyone she comes in contact with, but she doesn’t see it. She needs a psychiatrist, not a lawyer.
I wonder why there are only six comments to this post, and also why on the comments to the radio wrap up on Caylee and Haleigh all of the comments are about Haleigh,even if there is abosolutly nothing going on with that case, and Caylee’s case is in full force motion. Just because Caylee’s body has been found does that make her less important now? Just seems interesting to me.
It seems to me that the defense argument is going to be: “She didn’t do it!” – nothing more – nothing less.
Frankly, I don’t think the defense has a ghost of a chance of disproving the ton of evidence the state will introduce at trial.
Either the death penalty or life without the possibility of parole would satisfy the public’s clamor for justice for Caylee.
It seems to me that the defense argument is going to be: “She didn’t do it!” – nothing more – nothing less.
Frankly, I don’t think the defense has a ghost of a chance of disproving the ton of evidence the state will introduce at trial.
Either the death penalty or life without the possibility of parole would satisfy the public’s clamor for justice for Caylee.
It seems to me that the defense argument is going to be: “She didn’t do it!” – nothing more – nothing less.
Frankly, I don’t think the defense has a ghost of a chance of disproving the ton of evidence the state will introduce at trial.
Either the death penalty or life without the possibility of parole would satisfy the public’s clamor for justice for Caylee.
It seems to me that the defense argument is going to be: “She didn’t do it!” – nothing more – nothing less.
Frankly, I don’t think the defense has a ghost of a chance of disproving the ton of evidence the state will introduce at trial.
Either the death penalty or life without the possibility of parole would satisfy the public’s clamor for justice for Caylee.
It seems to me that the defense argument is going to be: “She didn’t do it!” – nothing more – nothing less.
Frankly, I don’t think the defense has a ghost of a chance of disproving the ton of evidence the state will introduce at trial.
Either the death penalty or life without the possibility of parole would satisfy the public’s clamor for justice for Caylee.
Karri,
Little Caylee’s body had been found and the monster that murdered her is now on trial. Little Haleigh has no resolution or hope for Justice until she is found. The more pressure we keep on Putnam County LE, the more questions we ask the higher the chance that there will be Justice for Haleigh, as the process of Justice for Caylee is now in it’s final stages.
I know Richard Grund has an attorney, have not kept up with every little recent detail because this one gets my hackles up to no end. I feel very bad for the innocent ones in this, the ones who got cast into a firestorm, but what goes around, comes around. It’ll all come out. Some will be surprised, some will not and justice will be served 10 fold.
Karri, I think there are a number of different reasons – as there are individuals.
There used to be a lot of people posting here about Caylee but the coverage dropped off as the case slowed down and I think many of those people found other sites to blog about it.
Other people are satisfied that the “mystery” is solved and are not interested in the next step – what we can only laughingly (choke) call the criminal justice system. I’m interested in that and in this case particularly because of monster’s sick family, preposterous bozo of a lawyer and the small but still real chance that something could go wrong and she’ll get off. So I’m sticking with Caylee until she’s convicted and sentenced.
I wish more people would blog here about Caylee’s case and maybe in future more will again.
I have wondered why there aren’t many posts about Caylee’s case. I agree m2c this “family” is one for the text books. I wondered how Casey could sustain sanity for such a long time without outside support from her family. It was interesting to see that there has been correspondence from her parents. The comment if true about her weight from her Dad rather bizarre. Her accusations about molestation hard to handle after the constant lies. How her family can stand by her after that makes my head spin like Linda Blare.
They have to try to brazen it out.
LadySadie@6/29/10 11:17- ita!
Karri – We do still talk about Caylee on the other post, but more is on Haleigh because we haven’t found the monster that caused her disappearance! But if you notice very little on Zach, I think that may be because he is an adult and a male. However, he is also as important as are all missing children & adult.
We also discuss Kyron’s case on that sight and I’m sure it’s becausehe is a missing child!
Bio-hazzard said,in June 29th, 2010 at 10:07 pm
I think Sindee stands by monster because from her sick point of view she can’t admit the truth because by gosh SHE couldn’t have a daughter who’d do that. And Sindee’s been that way for years, covering up for monster’s NON graduation from HS, her stealing, lying about her pregnancy. It’s been insane for a long time becayse it’s all about SINDEE. Not about Caylee or even monster.
I don’t believe the molestation accusations. I really don’t. It’s just another of monster’s lies. How can C or G respond without calling their mother of the year daughter a LIAR? LOL!
And Sindee doesn’t care. It’s G’s problem. And Lee’s. Not hers.
Bio-hazzard,
I think Sindee stands by monster because from her sick point of view she can’t admit the truth because by gosh SHE couldn’t have a daughter who’d do that. And Sindee’s been that way for years, covering up for monster’s NON graduation from HS, her stealing, lying about her pregnancy. It’s been insane for a long time because it’s all about SINDEE. Not about Caylee or even monster.
I don’t believe the molestation accusations. I really don’t. It’s just another of monster’s lies. How can C or G respond without calling their mother of the year daughter a LIAR? LOL! Oh, yeah. Maybe it’s a “mistruth” and those are okay! LOL!
And Sindee doesn’t care. It’s G’s problem. And Lee’s. Not hers.
m2c and Alex Loring, Thanks for responding. Alex Loring I definatly agree that Zach, and also Kyron are just as important as Caylee and Haleigh, just because they are not cute little girls does not make them any less important, however, like you said, hardly nothing on them. I always try to comment on Zach’s post, even if I have nothing to say to let the family know that I AM listening and checking on updates. It just kinda seems to me, that Caylee’s case has been figured out by the detectives, and everyone pretty much agree’s, so there is no room to argue with one another about what they think happened, and thats why there are hardly no posts about her. Where as Haleigh’s case, nothing has been figured out, and everyone has there own opinion, and can argue it, and Thats why the 400+ comments on the post of Caylee/Haleigh radio wrap up and every single one of them dedicated to Haleigh Cummings.
Dont get me wrong, Haleigh is important too, I just dont think she is MORE important than any other missing/deceased child. I just think its sad, that everyone wants to talk about their theory’s about what happened to her, but when it come down to the cold hearted facts about other cases, they are done commenting.
Karri, there are some who comment about Caylee’s case here – right now in fact on the earlier article about Haleigh, Caylee and Zach.
But there are LOTS of people who carry on conversations and share information about Caylee’s case every day on other blogs. If you’d like the name of some of those sites please join BNN’s forum and PM me and I’ll send them to you.
And thank you for reminding me that it’s important to comment on other articles – like about Zach. I read them and think about him and pray for him but just didn’t have a comment. Maybe that’s all I need to say and I should do it so the family and others know he’s not forgotten.
Karri – Caylee was the case that got me to read blogs. Didn’t really post much about it but read everything I could get my hands on. The case about took over my life! I still keep tabs on it and am still VERY interested in it but until the trial starts there really aren’t any “unanswered questions” or “possible theories” to figure out. We all basically know what happened. We know who did it. We know the family members are poster children for “Dysfunctional Family”. We know Geo and Spindee SHOULD face criminal charges but probably never will (I’m still holding out for purgery! 😀 ) There really isn’t anything left to debate or discuss. Doesn’t mean I don’t still think about those big eyes of Caylee’s or imagine her playing at God’s feet. Just impatiently waiting for the trial and justice to be served.
On the other hand we have Haleigh who has not been found, a bazillion possible theories as to what happened to her and too many questions to count. The saga, for Haleigh, unfortunately continues. This case has not been solved. We’re still disecting every statement that is made, every crumb of evidence we can find, cross checking timelines and facts. I truly believe that is why so many are posting about Haleigh vs. Caylee. One case is in its final stages and it would appear (HOPEFULLY) that justice will be served. The little angel has gotten her wings and has been laid to rest.
Unfortunately in the other case, this baby is still out there somewhere and needs desperately to be found. And the person or persons responsible need to be found and held accountable.
So please know Caylee is and will forever be in our hearts but right now Haleigh needs us and I truly believe Caylee understands that. She knows justice for her is just around the corner and she wants the same for Haleigh!
I hope this helps.
Karri – I saw where Kyron’s dad filed for divorce from the stepmom…that coupled with LE’s questions about anyone seeing the stepmom at the school coupled with a ping on her phone not being where she said she was makes me go HMMMMMMMMMMM……..
My gut says she’s somehow involved but that’s just based on the VERY little info that has come out thus far. But it sure isn’t looking good! God bless his little heart! Seemed like a smart little guy who ALWAYS had a smile. Lord please guide LE to find this baby and deliver justice!
JB @ 3:06 About Caylee you said, “There really isn’t anything left to debate or discuss.”
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I know that’s your personal opinion but lots of other people have quite a different one and are deep into very interesting and informative discussions and debates on other blog sites.
Recently letters have been released along with transcripts, there are hearings. Lots of “new” stuff to go over. Each to his/her own of course but IMO there’s plenty to discuss for those who are interested.
I guess I just hope that people won’t be discouraged from coming here to discuss Haleigh because I think that would be great!
WOW! Andrea Lyon (no “s”) just left the case!
I can’t believe it!
See orlandosentinel.com
Gee. Sindee is going to be SO upset. In one of her letters to monster Sindee said maybe when (monster) gets out, Andrea Lyon could help her get in to law school! ROFLMAO She DID write that!
Nevermind not having a HS diploma or 4 years of college. I mean KC’s “speshul” right?
What a riot!
I just heard on the news that Andrea Lyons the death penalty expert has left the case. Simon you called it!!
Hi, lfj! I posted that two posts up. And see my other post before yours for a giggle.
Good.evening bloogers: have huts read today’s posts and have a question for all of you. Why would Andrea remove herself from the case? Seems some of you could see it coming. M2c I would love to have other sites to read on Caylee’s case. I do go to the forum but usually there is nobody there lol. I think I an missing something or at least I hope so. I am new at blogging so some acronyms so not sure what PM stands for.
There are so many people and children missing I just send out peace to souls lost ands hope and faith for those to return. Most of all I hope for the suffering to stop on this planet and the healing to begin.
Have y’all noticed that the more stuff comes out, the more people are walking from Casey’s defense team…. Seems there is only Mason and Baez left and that’s it. I bet Lyon left because she knows she’ll lose this case and she can’t have that on her “perfect” record. Hell, Baez can’t even get the story straight. Next he’ll say the neighbor’s dog killed Caylee. Baez, do yourself and everyone else a favor please… Make Casey tell the truth (Is that even possible??? LMAO), and make her do the right thing and do her time like a good little girl. Even YOU BAEZ know that Casey killed Caylee. So, quit wasting tax payer money and go in with a guilty plea and accept life w/out parole. Seriously, Casey isn’t going to win and everyone knows she killed Caylee.
Anyways,,,I’m done venting.
Hello everyone.
Hi, PAW! Good to see you!
It’s interesting that the two people who’ve left – Macaluso and Lyon – both “bought” their way into the case (IMO) bringing about $70,000 each IIRC. Lyon was “paid” $22,000 but I bet that clinic or school or whatever it was that the fund came from back home where she lives was NOT happy about spending this money on someone who had had $200,000 AND could end Lyon’s perfect record.
Unfortunately Linda Kenney Baden is still on board – so far. So we’ll see what happens with her.
M2c, LOL! LOL! I loved that post!!
I popped on long enough to post that info and did not see that you posted it. Simon wrote an article not very long ago saying it would not be long before this attorney that never lost a death penalty case would quit the case. I guess you can’t lose a case if you don’t see it through to the end.
I think that there is one big difference in the Haleigh/Caylee cases besides the fact that Casey has been charged-and that is the drug connections in the Haleigh case.
The cast of characters in the Haleigh case seem to appeal to those with more prurient interests, and the bloggers can run wild with their suppositions regarding the case.
Morning, Granny 23 and lfj!
Did you read the letters that Sindee and G mailed to monster? Unbelievable. Among other things said: looks like she’s gained weight, she should get outside more, gaze at the moon!
(WHAT?)
And they talk about their cruise and delicious meals they had – lots of things monster will never ever enjoy. I just can’t decide if Sindee does that consciously on purpose or subconsciously.
Bio-hazzard said,in June 30th, 2010 at 9:51 pm
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I am hoping that discussion will pick up here but go to the Forums section and click on My Controls. Then scroll down the page and look on the left and click on Compose New Message.
It’s a “Personal Message” format that enables us to communicate just like emails but without email addresses. All we see are the nics we use here. Just address it to me as m2c and I’ll respond. Later on go to Forums section, click on My Controls and then click on In Box to check for a response.
We used to post articles and comments on the Forums section but not so much recently.
Granny 23,
My thoughts exactly (about the Haleigh case.) Ppl can judge and condemn and fight about those that were involved with Haleigh. Where as in Caylee’s case, no one is going to stick up for Casey,Cindy, or George.
Anyway, I heard first thing this am that Lyons quit too. I think its wonderful they are all jumping ship. This makes me believe they themseleves as some of the best defence attn’s,dont see a way out for Casey. Which relieves me a bit. On Peter Hyatt’s site he had performed Statement Analysis on some things that Andrea Lyon had said and he also called it that she would be leaving the case. Some very interesting info on there concerning the Caylee case. I visit the site daily. He also really listens to his posters, and replys to there posts. Something you guys may want to check out if you havent already.
Karri, did you read some of the letters to monster from members of the whacko general public? Unbelievable. Although often one has to doubt their mental stability and/or sincerity it looks like there are some people out there who think monster is innocent (although they often add that they are not familiar with the case! LOL!
Letters can be found at wftv.com
M2C yes, I read alot of the letters. I pretty much started to skip over the ones that were supportive of her, they made me sick to my stomache. Crazy. I always read the documents that are dumped in this case. I think all of it is important, and you never know what you might find hidden in them!
m2c said,in June 30th, 2010 at 8:58 am Bio-hazzard said,in June 29th, 2010 at 10:07 pm
I think Sindee stands by monster because from her sick point of view she can’t admit the truth because by gosh SHE couldn’t have a daughter who’d do that. And Sindee’s been that way for years, covering up for monster’s NON graduation from HS, her stealing, lying about her pregnancy. It’s been insane for a long time becayse it’s all about SINDEE. Not about Caylee or even monster.
I don’t believe the molestation accusations. I really don’t. It’s just another of monster’s lies. How can C or G respond without calling their mother of the year daughter a LIAR? LOL!
And Sindee doesn’t care. It’s G’s problem. And Lee’s. Not hers.
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The way I see it, there is probably a 50-50 chance either of you could be right about the molestation. In my opinion, it would depend on the psychology of the father. Also, in my opinion, the mother certainly could have inadvertently as it were set things up to happen that way. One thing is certain, this sort of thing has been in Casey’s mind — for whatever reason. So Jan could definitely be right too.
Hi, Alethea! I wasn’t arguing with Jan or anyone. I didn’t read her comment before writing mine. I was just posting my opinion on that subject. I know in most situations, anything’s possible, so certainly in this one it’s possible monster was molested. I just don’t tend to think so.
m2c said,in July 2nd, 2010 at 4:34 pm Hi, Alethea! I wasn’t arguing with Jan or anyone. I didn’t read her comment before writing mine. I was just posting my opinion on that subject. I know in most situations, anything’s possible, so certainly in this one it’s possible monster was molested. I just don’t tend to think so.
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I was referring to Jan’s comment on Sunday’s radio program. I don’t recall even thinking you were arguing. I hope it didn’t sound that way. Seems like just different points of view to me!
Sorry, Alethea! I misunderstood and for some reason also had our fellow blogger “Jan57” in mind instead of Jan Barrett so I thought I’d missed a post, too. But all’s well.
This case takes so much time and taxmoney, while the case is clear enough and purposely delayed by baez.
I guess that all those childkillers were following the NHcase and just remembered one thing: no body no case. Then some of them saw Casey acting playing cool, and hey, ’till now that kinda works for her, so maybe for them too.
You all forgot already Shanyia Davis, btw?
Horrible case!
this came straight from the mind, without using translationprograms so please don’t get bothered by me doubledutchspeaking;-)
greetings
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