Last night Jan and I were invited to take part in Denny Griffin’s Juror Thirteen show on Blog Talk Radio, the theme was Children Under Siege. Joining the panel was Sky 97.3 director of news TJ. Hart. It was a lively hour of discussion about the Haleigh Cummings and Caylee Anthony cases. One of the interesting topics that came up was the somewhat thorny issue of ethics in the media.
The law states quite clearly that a person accused of a crime is presumed innocent until proven guilty. Yet increasingly we are seeing cases that are being judged in the court of public opinion. The judges being the press. Do we in fact color the future jury pool?
If you missed the show it was recorded and you can listen to it here.
BNN is very pleased to announce that our weekly Sunday show The News In Review will be airing at 3PM Central and we have some great guests lined up this week.
We will have our regular panelists, Denny Griffin and Ms. Pickles. We will also have SKY 97.3’s ace reporter and Haleigh Cummings expert T.J. Hart. I am also very happy to add one more name to our panel this week, William “Cobra†Staubs. Cobra is the bail bondsman and private investigator who has been working hard on the Haleigh case. He has been using his own resources and seems to have achieved more in this case than Law Enforcement.
There is some movement in this case, and hopefully Cobra and TJ will have some interesting new developments to bring us. Much of the main stream media has moved on from this case, however BNN is planning on sticking with it til the bitter end. And we are heartened that TJ and Cobra seem to share that sentiment.
Cobra is a colorful character, so I think this show is going to be one that you will not want to miss. If you have been following the Haleigh case this is going to be your big opportunity to dial in and ask Cobra and TJ Hart any questions that you have.
In the Caylee case, as you know Jan and I have had our noses buried in researching the Money Trail, and that research is still going on. But we will be happy to answer any questions about what we have uncovered so far.
See you all on Sunday.
Simon and Jan Barrett
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Blimey! I missed the Captain’s orders by ONE post! PLEASE don’t keelhaul me, Cap’n!
BwooP BwOoP
So many questions swimming in my head that I could ask TJ or Cobra.. hmm gotta write em down before I forget lol.
Oh please can I walk the plank, please please, before Jules gets back!
bbiab
hi everyone… will be looking forward to the show sunday!
the little old dirty ladies are back in the other room, they should be followin any minute now lol
Whars mah Papa?
Pammy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ♥
butters then you need to let me steal some cause I don’t have any 🙁
whah! gimme some
and by the way I am shovin all you off the plank cause well johnny depp, now theres a man I would shove for…
lmao 😆
Hey Pammy!! 🙂 Your kitchen still rearranged? LOL hows that girl of yours?
Capt. Pickles – “E”
Arggghh yes the E ok Capy!
yep its still re arranged..lol and shes excited about her water park party saturday, shes just getting worried casue she asked me if theres sharks in the water? I said no honey no sharks or fish just pool water lol and for real gimme an intelligent question to ask lol you best be callin in tho…
Yes E
lol Pammy 😛 If I had your email I would tell you don’t wanna give em away to everyone LOL
CAPY!!! you were right flu hasnt bitten yet and I have protection now, cause you all said i wont and so i have faith 🙂
i got tired of worrying
so last night pickles gave me new shit to worry about so now I’m worrying about my thong creeping and causing infection
butters– u suck
gimme just one!!! I dont know much about cobra so i bets not ask anything stupid
Okay, was that a plank I felt in the pirate hole or was someone just happy to see me? 😆
Jules get off the plank your about to be shoved off cause if depp is there well, you understand depp is one fine man and well, get off…
hi guys what do u guys think about the new case of the mother charged with killing her 18 month old baby and claims a kidnapper took her but she showed them where she threw the body,another casey a
lmao what thong infections? hahahaha
I just put Vinny down for a nap and I asked if he was tired and he said nuh uh and shook is head no. I lay him down he closes his eyes and starts drifting to sleep 😛
flower i was just abou tto start that rant… my take is a copy cat thing shes deranged and is thinking shes the new casey anthony, for real thats what I think the simliarities, watching her demeanor, i think casey anthony has started some bizarre trend
Pammy – You’re funny, I saw the thong update. I’m a worrier too. I guess we all worry. The media trying to make $$$$ off big stories, but scare the shiot out of us. We’ll be ok! ♥
Pammy – I’m TRYING to get off…. that’s why I’m on Johnny’s Plank! 😆 😆 (Sorry…that was BAD!)
Flowerchild – what case is this? Hadn’t heard about this one! Where was this? Is there an article about this case I can read?
Butters thongs are no bueno they scootch from the bootch to the cootch!! YUCK spread germs YO!
I have to get hold of the Ants so I can give them there new standard answers before they go back for more depositions. This is so perfect for them and it worked for Oliver North when he testified during the Iran-Contra hearings. Its perfect, perfect I tell you.
I WAS PROVIDED WITH ADDITIONAL IMPUT THAT WAS RADICALLY DIFFERENT FROM THE TRUTH……I ASSISTED IN FURTHERING THAT VERSION.
This is big the Ants have a way to explain their “mistruths”.
Omg saw that on NG last night and hubby and I were so sad and disgusted. Such a sweet looking little baby girl. I think she is full of sh*t cuz the cops said from looking at the little girls body, she looked to have been suffocated.
No accident!
Jules is riding the plank!
NO accident! Emma was slain by her piece of chit mother.
AnneA thats the truth there fits em perfect
jules you dont understand i own the movie secret window i seen it about 500 times the man is well, hes just too fine, and u are soooo bad…we better quit before we get into trouble for x rating the blog LMAO stop talking about depp tho omg what a fine man actor, and well, all sorts of things..lol
CAPY i am starting to agree that media hype means money, if they are that sscared they will start quarrantine, so yah i swicthed my focus to new worries over thong infections… and i started to ponder malaria and leprosy too and so today my mind is off the flu for now
Ok E, no reply necessary. I’m coming out of retirement. Sailing the seven seas – BOLO for BNN!
in California it was on NG last night,she claimed she was at the park and someone hit her over the head and took the baby,then she told police she lied and it was a accident,and she threw the babys body in some bushes,she took them to the body
She smothered the baby I read.
it truly made me sick to watch i re watched last night shes sitting there pretty calm for someone charged with murder, another copy cat… do they think their gonna get away with this shit? in their minds do they think muder now means celebrity
thanks casey anthony
i hate your guts
Jules 😆
yeah this swine flu crap is getting me nervous,they are talking about shutting down schools here in texas,already close some,i think this is bigger than we thought if it is at a level 5 level 6 is all out panic
bbiab 😉
Any mother whose baby dies accidently and then is COLD hearted enough to throw that baby on the groud amongst thorns and brush is NOT to be believed about anything! If my child accidently died, I would protect her body with my life, there is NO way I could stand to throw her away. A funeral home would have their work cut out for them, prying her away from me, to do the humane thing, NEVER could throw my baby out dead or not.
casey has started a new trend,hey we can kill our kids and claim it was a accident,because we are pretty girls and they don’t want to give us the DP,bullcrap let them fry
Depp is having his coffee unaware that right now a blog of old gals are discussing riding his plank lmao.
Flowerchild the difference in the gal in CA & M is she cracked, she’s not holding to a lie- the lie anyway, her parents must not be G&C enablers. Atleast they haven’t been on tv yelling at the world to believe ‘their’ way. M is one of kind, the whole family. I went to the girl in CAs myspace, I’ll try to find it again.
Pammy Casey has most assuradly started a trend and its horrible. But the fact that they are “celebrities” is media’s fault. If we would send the media a message that we will no longer be watching them and hanging on to every word, they would lose their celebrity as quickly as they got it.
GAG ME WITH A WOODEN PLANK~
Beth, hopefully her parents will just keep their mouth shut and say “no comment” to media. The Ants have probably done more harm than good to M. Not that I care, because she is a murderer.
But, for our sake, we don’t need no more blabbering parents out there spewing lies.
Pickles I read somewhere in one of the rag mags that Depp would be able to gag even Linda Loveless with his plank, they say he is blessed in the britches, well endowed if you know what I am saying.
Pammy – I own every Johnny Depp movie he has ever made and watch ALL of them frequently so TOP THAT or get off Johnny’s Plank! 😆
I’m not sure why they are making such a big deal out of this Swine Flu thing. Thousands of people die from the regular flu every year. We’ve only had a few deaths (not to belittle ANY death from ANY disease) from the swine flu. I think there’s a better chance of me getting a splinter from Johnny’s Plank and dying from an infection than there is any one of us dying from swine flu! 😆
Pickles – HA (Oh I gotta dirty mind this morning)
i have to admit johnny depp is cute,but orlando bloom lord of the rings fairy,and in the pirates can shiver my timbers anytime,back to the topic now
that new murderer looks spaced out on the video. i am sure we’ll hear more tonight
Depp plank is a woody. wow that is funny if ya think about it.
Butters @ 9:47 am
At Vinny’s age, isn’t “no” often their favorite word? It sure is at my husband’s age! I don’t think he ever got over that stage! LOL!
thanks jules for the postive talk on the flu it makes me feel better when others keep it in perspective cause i try but lord knows my mind plays tricks on me 🙂
and as far as depp, i warned ya, I’m not a violent woman but you really need to share that plank with us all..
secret windwos has many reasons first a good suspense movies second depp of course, and third it was at a bad time in my life when alls i wanted to do was escape reality for a few hours and i would watch that movie over and over cant explain it, was talking to another friend one time when all of a sudden she said the same thing that when her and her hubby talked of divorce she used to put in secret dinwo and watch it over and over..
amazing how a movie can transport us…
i should watch them more for that lol
Well, as “stimulating” as this discussion of Johnny’s plank has been – I gots to get some work done. BBL
TV screens sure do crackle and pop and hair stands on end when you put your tongue on the screen. I know from the last time “secret window” was on. got electrocuted.
They have closed the Mauldin high school here yesterday, its a school in a small town about 20 miles from me. The kids took a field trip to Florida and about 18 of the students had flu like systems when they came back. They are disinfecting the school as we speak
LOL M2C he is actually really good at speaking and always has been a step ahead. He really doesn’t say no unless he means it. His fav word right now is feet and he points to my feet or his feet and laughs 😛
anneA 10:04
THANKS SO MUCH FOR THAT INFO 🙂
wow didnt know that
Depp could gag Jenna Jameson with a plank and she’s had it all!
jules your boss didn’t go for the work being extra theory?
I’ll never find the site, I stumbled on it linking around, it will pop up though I’m sure.
Capy the one article I read her family was too upset to talk to media, I’m guessing they’re closer to normal, as if the Ants even register on that scale.
CAPY ROTFLMAO
PLANK
LMFAO Capy!!!
Orlando Bloom is my pirate so you guys can have Johnny Depp 😛
hey pickles do you go by another name such as jenna? 🙂
Pammy – maybe you liked the Secret Window because secretly you wanted to clobber your husband and bury him in the garden! 😆
And don’t worry, if I EVER have the opportunity to share Johnny’s plank, I’ll let you know! (As long as I get it first! Bluck – no sloppy second planks for me, thank you very much! 😆 )
Don’t worry about the swine flu! I work with a bunch of pigs and if I haven’t gotten it yet, I’m not gonna! 😉 (Just Kidding my oh so lovely co-workers…. NOT!)
BBL
LMAO Jules has got a point there Pammy hahahaha!
Oh thanks AnneA 10:04, I was almost moving past Depp now this info isn’t helping
AnneA – tried that “work is extra theory” but was told paychecks were a fringe benefit that could easily be eliminated…. sorry….gotsta work! Okay, now I’m REALLY leaving! 😆 You guys are SO much more fun that work! ♥♥♥
lovin it i gotta use her line to my co workers who are my friends against the other “pigs” we work with and i dont mean the clients..
I think Gerard Butler is a hottie too the guy from PS I love you (Hillary Swanks husband) ahhh when he had the irish accent! geez louuu eeez!
Pammy the news of the high school should comfort you unless of course you live in Mauldin with a high school kid.
Pickles – maybe we should all start eating Pears. A lot of flu deaths are caused by turning into pneumonia. (I’m not kidding about Pears)
Pammy…..Shhh dont tell NO ONE… 😉 I go by many names! LMAO
Ok see U all later
Thug life b*tches! XXX
Has to be fresh pears the benefits are in the PEEL!! for real YO’s
laterz
A few Marines in CA got the swine flu too and having to put them in quarantine. One guy was in contact with 30 other Marines so they quarantined them.
Pammy sorry that didn’t work for you, its clear you need a NEW boss.
Thug life lmao Cya later Pickles!
I gotta run too, for real, hahaha, too easy to stay here & argue about planks.
See yous all later~~
TUPAK SENT OUT A LOOK ALIKE CUS HE GOT CAUGHT!! THAT IS NOT THE SAME DUDE….AT ALL
http://www.tmz.com
BUTTERS thats not the same guy that they got on pic the other night!! NOPE
I am out to, got more errands to run. not nearly enough sleep last night and soooo tired today. Oh well I will find time to get a nap later.
BUTTERS GO HERE AND SEE its not the same dude Tupak got caught and sent out his drone! LMAO…not the same
.tmz.com/
k I got to go
TLB
TUPAK SENT OUT A LOOK ALIKE CUS HE GOT CAUGHT!! THAT IS NOT THE SAME DUDE….AT ALL
LMAO WOW thats nuts Picks!
Is everyone leaving? 😛
Depp…have y’all seen Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas????
Yup that I have Spacely
is that a movie Spacely,haven’t heard about that one
I’mma go get some toast be back in a min
REPORTER’S NOTES 4/30/2009
Kristina Rene “Nay Nay” Prevatt is out of the Putnam County Jail on bond as of about 9pm Wednesday night.
Prevatt is a person described over the phone to me by Lt. Johnny Greenwood as not a suspect or person of interest the Haleigh Cummings disappearance, but who is a person who might know someone who knows something. He made that statement after chastising me over how WSKY’s factually correct live reports Tuesday of her bond revocation were received by the locals and other media outlets.
Prevatt, an associate of Haleigh’s stepmother Misty Cummings, was originally jailed Monday April 20, 2007 along with Amber Brooks, the mother of a son fathered by Haleigh’s father Ronald Cummings, on cocaine related charges.
Both Prevatt and Brooks were bailed out of jail on the cocaine charges the same day they were arrested. Private investigator William “Cobra” Staubs bailed out both women in efforts to gain their confidence and hopefully get some information out of them as it pertained to the missing 5-year-old Satsuma girl.
Prevatt’s bond was revoked Tuesday because she was deemed a flight risk and a danger to herself. She was returned to the jail and placed under suicide watch.
A doctor later said she was no longer a threat to herself. She was taken off suicide watch and later bonded out by man whose identity has not yet been confirmed.
Sources tell the SKY the man who bailed out Prevatt is a 46-year-old white male sex offender under this legal description:
“Sexual offender” means a person who meets the criteria in subparagraph 1., subparagraph 2., or subparagraph 3., as follows: 1.a. Has been convicted of committing, or attempting, soliciting, or conspiring to commit, any of the criminal offenses proscribed in the following statutes in this state or similar offenses in another jurisdiction: s. 787.01, s. 787.02, or s. 787.025(2)(c), where the victim is a minor and the defendant is not the victim’s parent; chapter 794, excluding ss. 794.011(10) and 794.0235; s. 796.03; s. 796.035; s. 800.04; s. 825.1025; s. 827.071; s. 847.0133; s. 847.0135; s. 847.0137; s. 847.0138; s. 847.0145; or 1s. 985.701(1);
If this is truly the person who bonded out Nay Nay Prevatt, there is a whole new avenue that needs to be explored quickly!
Prevatt, also a friend of Brooks, acted as a matchmaker and chauffer for Misty Cummings by arranging a sex and drug-filled hookup with a local man Greg Page the weekend before Haleigh vanished.
Misty Cummings was the last person to see Haleigh before she was abducted on February 10, 2009.
Okay – took this off NG’s website…..
Do Casey Anthony’s lawyers have an explanation for those disturbing photos of tot mom partying after Caylee goes missing, her shopping sprees allegedly using her friend’s checking account and the chloroform found in tot mom’s car? Reports are Jose Baez is comparing tot mom to a military widow accused of poisoning her Marine husband then going out on sex and shopping sprees using her dead husband’s insurance money. The widow, Cynthia Sommer, would go on to be released from jail after it’s determined her husband was not poisoned after all. Does Baez plan to use the Sommer’s case as an example of how someone’s erratic behavior after the death of a loved one does not prove they committed murder? (From Stacey Newman, Nancy Grace Producer)
Okay, HOW would this work? How could Bozo possibly think this would be an appropriate defense. This chick went out AFTER her husband died and used insurance money to party….this was quite some time AFTER her husband’s death. Maggot was out partying while her daughter was supposedly missing and she was “in fear for her life, Caylee’s life and the life of her family”. This is apples and oranges…. Not EVEN the same thing. And the chick in this case DIDN’T murder her husband which was proven later. Maggot DID murder her child! This is the dumbest defense plan I’ve ever heard in my life and yes, I know I said I was going to get some work done but went to check to see if there had been a doc dump and ran across this. Bozo is an absolute IDIOT!
Fear and Loathing is a movie..in which Johnny Depp is bald…with a fringe…
Jules – oh hellsbells – last month he was comparing her to The Fugitive!
the man who bailed out Prevatt is a 46-year-old white male sex offender – where the victim is a minor and the defendant is not the victim’s parent
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Ron Sr?!?!?!
my question is,if casey was innocent in the death of caylee,why after she was bonded out the first time by Padilla did she do nothing and say nothing to the LE about what really happen to caylee,a person who is innocent i think would do everything in their power to prove it,this only condemns her and puts the shadow of guilt on her,i am not quite understanding why she would do that and take the chance of losing her life
Simon and Jan,
Do you have resources to help a child that is being sexually assaulted right now? Please visit this website and tell me how to help this child, Please! http://www.saveaaliyah.com
Thank you!
Thats what I was thinking Spacely..
Jules its like Bozo is gonna go “Your honor my client was having sex sucking ween and stealing money because it was ugly coping” laaaame!
Capy – he just keeps throwing crap out there hoping something will stick. NOTHING he can come up with is going to explain away her thieving, partying, lies, deceit, death smell, and evidence against her. Why doesn’t he just go for a plea bargain? Isn’t that was a responsible attorney would do with this much stacked against them? Guess there is no fame and glory in that so he’s not interested. So what if his client gets the DP….he’s trying to make a name for himself! (Not that I care if Maggot gets the DP). I’m just flabbergasted at Bozo’s continued and increasing stupidity!
not ron sr
Well Ron really married a winner huh? *sarcasm*
Jules – looking to make an Academy Award script, for sure.
When Maggot was first bonded out by Padilla, it was with the understanding that she would supply some information. Padilla said when thngs calmed down a little, he walked over to her and said (paraphrasing here) “ok, we had a deal you would supply some information”. She got mad and screamed “GET OUT OF MY HOUSE!” ..
Wonder if that is what Nay Nay and Amber are going to do when questioned?
TJ – thank you for all of the hard work you are doing for Haleigh! God Bless You!
My question is why is LE being so tight lipped about things that could help break the case wide open? Things like the bloody/rusty sheet they found? Why they took the back door off the trailer? Results of lie detector tests? Why can’t they haul Misty in and lock her up for something like child endangerment or something until she talks since we’re pretty sure she wasn’t home when Haleigh went missing. It just doesn’t seem like they’re making progress or pushing hard enough!
T.J…..Thank you for this update, but I am confused by this. At 3;25 a.m. Thursday, April 30, artharris.com posted the following………
The Bald Truth has learned just before 9 p.m. Wednesday, Christina Prevatt, aka Nay Nay, 18, ex- party girl chauffeur for Haleigh Cummings’ stepmother, Misty, was bonded out of the Putnam County Jail, again, on her original cocaine possession charges.
Only this time, it wasn’t bounty hunter Williams Staubs, aka Cobra, but Chuck’s Bail Bonds, according to attorney Kim Picazio, who has been trying to help the suicidal teenager struggling with drug addiction enroll in a rehab program.
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Is this “Chuck’s Bail Bonds” also a sex offender or is the Art Harris post incorrect ??
JULES – I’m not getting a very good impression of the Satasuma area – LOL. Sex Offenders, drugs. A sex offender wanted to make a cash donation to Haleighbugg and people there refused his money. Misty’s cousin is s.o. Now this guy bails out Nay Nay, he’s s.o.
I bet property values around there are dirt cheap (like a lot of the gals)
Capy – Bozo and Maggot would BOTH get negative results if they took IQ tests! IDIOTS!
flowerchild @ 10:44 am
Back then poor little Caylee’s remains had not been found so Maggot, the ants, and Bozo were able to continue to claim she’d been kidnapped (no fault of Maggot’s of course). So at the time she was arrested for child neglect (probably for not reporting Caylee missing) and lying to police (she DID!) and after that she was arrested for check fraud and theft (of Amy’s money).
So back then – when she was out on bail – they were dealing with lesser charges.
Then when she was charged with murder she went back in jail for good.
So you are right, Maggot should have made an effort to find her daughter when she was out on bail instead of strutting to Bozo’s office everyday and letting her parents scream at the media and Tim Miller and all the volunteers.
(And getting paid TV interviews)
So if she HAD taken a plea way back when she was first charged with murder – but there was no body – she might have gotten a much lesser sentence – claiming “accident” or whatever. But stupid, selfish BB would not let her and I’m sure she didn’t want to anyway. SHe’s so arrogant and gotten away with everything for so long I’m sure she thought she could beat this.
Now, she’s toast.
Capy – LOL – Yeah, like the time the police told the volunteer searchers not to go in the woods as there was a lot of illegal activity and someone could get hurt! Well, HELLO! If you know there is illegal activity, go arrest them! Clean up the woods! Round up the druggies and S.O.’s! I’m guessing the jail isn’t big enough to house all the skanks in this town! The entire town would be in jail!
JULES – maybe they don’t want to turn this into a circus like M.
There’s no Sunshine Law in effect, because there haven’t been any arrests – no lawyers. Maybe this makes their jobs easier.
Look at the Sandra Cantu case. We are getting a little info in an organized manner. No circus. We have only our imaginations as to some of the things.
M2C – I really think Maggot thinks Bozo is going to get her off – after all… he’s been “getting her off” for months now….tiny twizzler and all! 😆
can’t they charge cindy and george with something,just to scarce them into revealing the truth,they know something for sure that is why they are covering this up,if LE was alittle bit harder on them maybe they would come clean since casey isn’t
I bet the sexual offender who bailed out NayNay is that character named Sapp.why was she suicidial? guilt from withholding info?
KAREN CCC ARE YOU STILL HERE?
Flowerchild,
KC said nothing because no one is going to ‘trick’ into giving a confession…I love it everytime they say this cause it just means she did it, but won’t tell…it is not a denial of wrongdoing…just a denial of telling the truth…
According to Brad Conway, the entire family is going to wait to tell the truth in court to the jury…which means they are lying now and have been…
Capy – I guess it just seems like in the Haleigh case that nothing is moving forward. It seems like Cobra has gotten more info about the case than LE has. It just doesn’t seem like we’re getting any closer to the truth or to bringing Haleigh home.
Jan are you here?
JULES – Interesting the Cummings house was “clean” the night LE started investigation of Haleigh’s disappearance. Surely, if they had found drugs, there would have been an arrest??
However, you do have to have “cause” when searching. If you stumble upon something illegal, can they make charges. i.e., they were searching for clues of Haleigh, not drugs.
Someone call Dateline NBC and tell them to set up a predator sting in Putnam County…they can tape a whole season’s worth of shows there…
Maggot could have claimed “accident” in the beginning, but when Caylee was found – the story would have gone out the window. Surely, foresnics will tell a story!
Spacely – remember when Lexie & Lizzy’s Papa said he was going to send one of the girls from his office down there to find Bounty Hunter. I just about fainted. I hope she was taking a careload of bodyguards with her. Now THAT is one place, we don’t want to go alone! Take a New York alley for Satasuma.
Does anyone else think this murderer Stacey Barker fits the description on Zanny?age fits and teeth are “straight and white”hair is straight..lol
Spacely that is a very good idea 😆
Flowerchild – I agree – not sure why LE has been so easy on Sindee and Geo. They have obviously broken several laws. I think they need to be prosecuted for their crimes right along side their Maggot daughter! Lee is guilty too!
Capy – it would appear that there is so much drug and crime activity in the Satsuma area that only the worst of the worst get arrested. Too many offenders to keep up with and arrest. I just don’t get why Misty hasn’t been arrested. Everyone knows she partying the weekend before Haleigh went missing – underage drinking, drugs and sex – so why wasn’t Greg arrested for statutory rape? Why haven’t Ron and Misty been arrested for child endangerment since all of their drug activity is obviously behind Haleigh’s disappearance? Just seems like they could push these people a lot harder to get to the truth. I’ve never seen so many blatant criminals running around free right under LE’s nose before in all my life!
all schools in Fort Worth Texas are closed 8O,0000 students not allow back to school swine flu noted in schools,not far from me OMG
Karen I checked out the website for the link you left. You DO NOT need money for an attorney. One well placed call to your local rape crisis center will put you in touch with people who can and will help. They have all the knowledge and resources to help this little girl NOW.
Spacely 10:57..isn’t lying on depos an offense..if conway is admitting this, can’t they be held in contempt?
that is a good question Terisa,they were under oath,can that not prove they are lying about not knowing anything,they were caught in lies in that depo
How can an attorney constantlt contradict his theories..first..Caylee might have accidently od’d..no nanny was mentioned, then she was definitely kidnapped..did she od before or after the nanny took her?
FLOWERCHILD – Wow!!!! But it is good they are taking this as a precaution. Can you imagine what would happen if one child got the common cold .. the school would go into panic.
JULES – Maybe LE thinks there is enough on their plate right now, without going after the Ants. Or, maybe the right thing to do is let them keep yacking and digger a deeper hole. They just might accidently “slip up” one of these days!!
TERISA – or she drowned in the pool in the backyard (the ladder was left up) – hell, may Jesse did it – LOL.
Digging a deeper hole, I’m tellin ya – diggin a deeper hole!
Capy – I think they slip up every time they open their mouths. They contradict themselves over and over with every interview they do. These people wouldn’t know the truth if it was handed to them on a silver platter! I’m not sure they are capable of telling the truth.
Capy..how could M have stayed with the accidental od theory without a body, don’t you think somone would have asked her, what did you do with Csylee’s body?
Conway is not admitting they are lying, he just used an extremely poor choice of words…by which I mean he described the situation as it is and not as he wants it to be perceived…
Yes, lying on depos can be a punishable offense…although I am not sure as to the exact penalties…but it is perjury. And yes, their statements under oath are not consistent.
However, not consistent is not the same as lying. You got a lot of wiggle room because you are talking off the top of your head during these proceeding with no notes or facts to refer to…in other words…you can’t be faulted for your memory and your recall of events may have changed over time…
…but the Ants are lying and that is why their stories are inconsistent…but as far as the case is concerned, all this means is that they cannot be used by either side as witnesses for anything…both sides will try, but the jury will end up disregarding all of their testimony because they will not trust them…
I think the way the Ants see it is:
Chances of being prosecuted for perjury – slim to nil
Chances of destroying all the damagining info you let go about your daughter in the early stages of the case – really good cause now no one believes anything…which is all good for KC cause they ran their mouths so hard at the beginning, she is lucky to have already gotten the chair…
oops…not have gotten the chair…
even if she died by od,why the duct tape,if she was already dead no need for the duct tape,that was a premeditated act of trying to shut her up,i don’t know the reason why someone would duct tape after death pointless
Why would a beautiful Nanny, straight teeth who is definitely a “10” – kidnap a child and threaten to harm M’s family!!!!
That’s the reason M didn’t report Caylee missing for 31 days – zenaida gave her a script of what to tell LE.
If M had gone straight – with her imagination, she could have been an award winning screen writer. Every excuse, explanation has a beauty of a story!
TERISA – Bingo! She had to deny, deny, didn’t she!
Was just reading about the swine flu on CNN – there are a bunch of school districts closing down nation-wide. The WHO may raise the level to a 6 which is the highest level possible. There are cases pretty much world-wide now. Have confirmed cases in Spain of the flu being passed from person to person – no piggies involved! Mexico is about in utter turmoil. The people there don’t trust their government, they’re having to set up tents to treat people as the hospitals are full…. nearly 200 deaths there now. They are out of face masks and hand sanitizer…. people are near riot stage.
While I’m not ready to wear a mask and rubber gloves just yet, this is getting pretty scary!
Capy11:01..how could she have stayed with the accidental od story without a body,,don’t you think, if she admitted Caylee died in a accident, they would ask her where’s the body?
all i hope for is that the prosecution has some heavy evidence against her,that one thing that is going to seal this case,do they have to turn everything over to defense,are can they hold that big bombshell till trial
I don’t get what’s so big about the blanket,toy ,etc found with Caylee’s body..she’s going to say I packed her bag and sent these things with her to Zanny’s..so what’s finding them prove?
Friends…..Before another post is made, before another thought is expressed, I urge you…no I beg you…..go to the post made at our forum about 45 min. ago. Please, go to the video in the link and tell me what you think BEFORE I EXPLODE………………………….
KarenCCC said,in April 30th, 2009 at 10:45 am Simon and Jan,
Do you have resources to help a child that is being sexually assaulted right now? Please visit this website and tell me how to help this child, Please! http://www.saveaaliyah.com
Thank you!
SPACELY: Prove it: prove Caylee didn’t talk about Zanny’s dog. Prove Cindy didn’t have Z’s phone number and address.
What I am wondering is when C said the car smelled like dead body and G as much as said so — then later it was blamed on garbage and food. So, when they are on stand at trial and they say “oh, I thought it was pizza” and the Prosecutor refers back to the original stories — can’t they say “well, yes, but we changed our mind over time, and the deposition is the truth.”
Did I make myself clear (probably not – ha), but can they use the 2nd answers and say they were just wrong or stressed out on the first??
Flowerchild – I think they have to give everything they have to the defense prior to trial…. all evidence has to be disclosed so the defense can prepare their case (aka lies). I’m hoping there is a doc dump soon and it has all the evidence that caused LE to seek the DP. I just KNOW they got something REALLY good on Maggot! Something that will put Bozo and his entire loser team in the hospital with ulcers!
Please…..Before another post is made, before another thought is expressed, I urge you…no I beg you…..go to the post made at our forum about 45 min. ago. Please, go to the video in the link and tell me what you think BEFORE I EXPLODE………………………….
KarenCCC said,in April 30th, 2009 at 10:45 am Simon and Jan,
Do you have resources to help a child that is being sexually assaulted right now? Please visit this website and tell me how to help this child, saveaaliyah.com
Thank you!
saveaaliyah.com
Capy – I think their initial versions are nearer the truth and everyone will recognize that. The 911 calls were raw emotion and honest fear! Comments about the smell of death at that time would be honest. When Geo gave his statement to LE he kept saying “just between us” because he was being honest and didn’t think that interview would be shared with his darling wife or the world… THAT is when he was being honest, when he said he puked at the smell in the car – KNEW that smell from his time in LE – KNEW it was the smell of death. THAT was honest. NOW, after Maggot was arrested for murder, they want to twist the truth to protect their daughter – jurors will see RIGHT through that!
papa I watched the video clip you are talking about, in fact I watched it 3 times. There is NO doubt that beautiful little girl is being abused and now the dad has custody. The courts get another wrong, the child pays the price.
TERISA – and the Nanny stopped by the Ant house and got the red heart and the Henkel tape which Papa has proven is hard, if not impossible, to obtain now.
NO, I agree with you that is what Bozo will say. Now, if ONLY her car had been stolen from Amscot!! ha!
Ok, Papa – gonna check out the website NOW.
Papa this is a mother without the financial resources to fight this animal in court, the money delivers the victim to the predator. ONCE AGAIN. This is a desperate mother whose ex has the money to beat her up in the court system. The judge isn’t listening to her or the child, his lawyer is NOT letting her get this info before the right people, the people who could STOP him. His resources makes him the good guy, it makes my stomach hurt.
Capy – exactly, you can’t prove they were lying…it will all be, i was under stress, i wasn’t thinking clearly, the police interviews were a time when I was throwing out every theory I had, after reflection, I have changed my mind, I can’t remember exactly what my thought process was at the time…etc..etc..etc…
You are correct, they won’t be able to pin anything on them about the smell – neither is a smell-o-meter – neither is an odor expert – they gave their impression at the time and have no decided they were wrong…
So, for the Ants, the best strategy is to put out as much disinformation as possible so the original stories will not be credited as truth or even near truth…I agree with Jules, they were more honest then, but I believe G knew from the time of the ‘trunk’ incident some weeks earlier that Caylee was dead and immediately went into cover up mode…the reason he says the crap about the piggy bank and all that is the he believed he and C were the main suspects and started pushing all blame onto KC. That is the real reason everything was ‘honest’ in the police interview. But when C found out, she blew her top cause I think G told her that first night the true deal. During her interviews, she is already throwing out blame on every single person but KC. She assumed G would do the same. If you notice, G never again says anything derogatory about KC, but during that interview it was all she stole this and that and the piggy bank…
AnneA…….with all due respect, If this is true and not some virtual world scam, I can’t live with “The courts get another wrong, the child pays the price.”.
How can any loving parent watch what I just watched and not have their VERY SOULS RIPPED APART ??? There’s something terribly, terribly wrong here. I’m needing input from all of you before I go off half cocked on this.
Papa I referred her to rape crisis which is a great resource. However at that point I didn’t know she had already lost this child. I am afraid she needs an attorney and a GOOD one. Where he has custody now, she probably has limited contact with the little girl. She needs help for sure, this baby needs help. He has undoubtedly gotten himself a shark of a lawyer who has no conscience and don’t give a damm about the sexual abuse of a child. His attorney’s only concern is the money he is making from this creep.
Papa yeah well my heart is right there with yours. You have no idea how this goes to my soul. This baby needs help badly. I have seen this before, more than once, more times then I want to think about. The anger is boiling inside me and is only rivaled by the sorrow I feel. This is an outrage.
OMG – I am absolutely ill. I don’t want to believe this is real. Is there anyway to verify this is true? Wouldn’t there be a police report or some other proof that all of this has been reported? I hope this is not a prank! This is really disturbing! If it is legit, we’ve got to help but how can we make sure this isn’t a hoax of some sort?
This is our legal system at its finest. Justice is only guarenteed when a person can afford it!!!
my granddaughter was molested by a neighbor,he touched her in the private area,her father was there at the time of the incident,but in the bathroom he notice something was wrong and brought her to her mother and me,when we asked her what happen we instantly knew it was true,my grandaughter would not lie about something like that and we always told her come and tell us if anyone touchs you,we called police the guy was found guilty and was suppose to do 11 years,guess what he was out after 5 months and now is living in the same town,
flowerchild at 11:22 – That’s right. Duct tape after a so-called “accident” would prove it was NOT an accident. So that’s why idiots Maggot and Bozo should have taken that opportunity when they had the chance – before the body was found.
And Capy, Maggot could have claimed she threw the body in the ocean or river where no one would expect to find it – then keep her fingers crossed that they’d stop looking and never find it in the woods. I’m not sure that the state would have accepted that explanation of where she put the body. It could have nixed the deal at that time. It would have been up to the state. But still she’s missed all her chances for anything but life or DP.
The ants can come up with all the lame excuses they want for why they’ve changed their stories. Unless the jury consists of 12 “people” from Bugtussel Junction, they will see that the truth was told FIRST, and then they started lying. EEK! THat’s a thought. Maybe Bozo will try to get the trial moved to Satsuma – average IQ minus 10 and respect for the law minus 100.
This baby was not being coached, there was no script. The little girl talking about wiping it off, with a napkin. She didn’t make it up and would never know about the need to clean the worm up after!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Papa,
She states on the video she submitted the tape to the police.
That means there must be a record of the case.
If you want to follow up, my advice would be to contact that police dept, tell them your concerns, see what they say.
Then call the DCF in that area and make the same inquiries. They must have a case open too.
I don’t know how much info they will give you, but if it is a scam, they should be able to tell you.
You might also do some searching on the web for the names of everyone involved and possibly even some of those websites that list urban legends and rumors – this may be a new one…or a variation of an old one…the part that bothers me is she asks for money…advice I buy…money means it is a scam…help I buy…money is a red flag…
Papa with all due respect my words that you quoted are NOT my philosphy, it is what happens over and over. I have been fighting this battle for 40 years, I have seen this story before, different momma and different child but the story is all to common.
children who are being abuse usually tell the truth,it is up to the adults in their lives to listen and do something about it
Bear in mind the video could be real in all respects…
…but not related in any way to the people running the website or asking for money…
…like when people take pics off the net and pass them off as themselves…
Be careful in the virtual world, it is full of predators that hunt for kind hearts…
Capy 11:44HAHAHAHA…the nanny stopped by the house and got the duct tape and heart sticker!!!!LMAO..I’m hysterical!!
Spacely, I to intend to try and follow up on this video. I don’t think its a scam, I think its a desperate mother. I think calling the police will be of little help and or DCF. The father’s money has already been used to pull every skeleton out of this mothers closet while his closet door is double locked and contents safely hidden away. We will most likely be told the mother has mental problems and is not to be believed. There will be the belief among the officials that the mother coached the child. This is so familiar to me. The father has the money to make people think the sun is shinning even when the sky is blanketed with ugly black clouds to the point of day seeming like nite.
Papa – The Mother needs to take this to the local news station also, with the name of the judge. They need to do a little investigative reporting.
Down here in Phx people take complaints to Channel 3, “Three on Your Side”. The reporters can investigate it before they air it to keep their butts out of trouble. “Three on you side”, of course has never had a complaint in this area.
FACTS & PUBLICITY, FACTS & PUBLICITY, FACTS & PUBLICITY!
Spacely,
I agree with your 12:04 post.
I almost threw up listening to it. I wonder what went on in the rest of the video. Who was taking the pics? Who is Auntie?
SPACELY YOU MAY BE RIGHT ABOUT SOMEONE USING THE VIDEO TO GET MONEY, WHAT A SHAME. The video is real, the little girl has been used and abused. Oh yeah I forgot the standard answers that the authorities give in these cases. the mother is just trying to keep the dad away from the child and has come up with these lies to do it.
I need to go back and read the posts, I am sorry I see this stuff and go off. This is a subject that makes me crazy.
AnneA….have you read the info at the “about us” section of this web site ?? And please, you above all else, understand I knew what you meant with the part of your post that I copied.
I mean no disrepect, as I know how this f**ked up world can be. I JUST CAN’T LIVE WITH THIS.
I’m going to see someone I know with the knowledge and resources to get to the bottom of this story for me. I will hire them to tell me the facts, as they exist, so I can decide what I’m going to do about it.
I will be back later.
That little girl could not have been making all that up for sure. The mouth, the napkin, etc..
The place looked like a real dump.
Tori auntie is obviously momma’s sister. I know we should be skeptical considering the evil people out there that will do anything to get a buck. But so many have become jaded, which is how these creeps keep getting away with this shi-t.
If murdering Maggot can get “pro bono” help from dream teams, why can’t this woman get some help??? NO, I mean why can’t this CHILD get some help.
If she wasn’t coaxed, there is a lot of info no child would make up – using napkins to clean up yucky. Dirty talk was probably taking place – what was that about a kitty? We know what word was actually used P—-.
PAPA GOD BLESS YOU GOD BLESS YOU IF THIS IS ON THE UP AND UP, YOU ARE SAVING A CHILD A LIFETIME OF PAIN. GOD, GOD BLESS YOU!
AnnA, I am here now….so, did you leave a message with the “contact us” to let her know about the Rape Crisis? This is NOT a scam to whomever said that. I have been working diligently to get this woman some help! Thank you AnnA!
Oh, Please, Please Papa!!!! I talk with a lady named Connie from the site, she said that my efforts are sending her some real good information! I just sent a message to the editor of the Auburn Journal, being in Georgia, I don’t know if that’s the right paper to go to! OMG, I felt so alone trying to help this little girl! Thank you so much!
What about the police? Or god forbid, a minister.
KarenCCC – I don’t have the time or space to tell you about all the good things Lexie & Lissy’s Papa has done. He does not bullshiot. When he gets involved – things happen.
He did some indepth investigation that took his e-mails overseas to check out duct tape found on Caylee and had his attorneys deliver it to law enforcement, Sgt. Allen, in Orlando.
Thank you Karen – Jan and Simon will see this. We will all be with you. Let Papa get a head start.
What about Child Protective services?
Papa left the site, I think. EVERYONE!! Make sure Papa see’s Karen’s latest post. I have errands to run. I will check back & make sure too.
Send it to Nancy Grace
Tori – I’ll betcha $10 she has already been there. They are so overworked, understaffed, under$$$$$. I don’t mean to bash them, but things have a way of slipping … we’ve all heard the stories.
yes,this has me alittle leery of this vid,there are alot of free resources out there to help with this kind of thing,are the police,if she took that vid to police surely they could get to the bottom of this
Capy,
I know.
flower,
I went to snopes and there is a way to send them a video so they can check it out, but I don’t know how to do it. Anyone?????
Tori, I have tried to send it to Nancy Grace, three times….CPS in her area have been called 11 times so far and have done absolutely nothing. The police won’t even look at the tape and keep making the mom send the child back!!!! If you read the website, all the information is there under contact us I think….Thank you guys so much. I am literally shaking….
Karen,
Do you know this woman personally?
my question is why put the vid on the internet,but not turn it over to the police,so they can confirm this is really happening and check it out
I just watched the video and I had to vomit before I could return and write this.
did I understand correctly that the father of this innocent child has custody???? Dear God,tell me I misunderstood… This man needs his “worm” amputated and shoved down his throat! I am ill.
bbl I feel sick about this.
And for any doubters, even if it is not real (I totally and truly think it is) I could not live wit myself not knowing. So if this lady is lying to get something, I’ll be the first to find her and smack the ever living crap out of her, but if I just stood by doing nothing, I’d hate myself FOREVER!
Karen,
The little girl was not lying that’s for sure.
gotta go for a bit
flowerchild: The police and state prosecutors (overworked, underpaid, and sometimes not too bright or clever) can be kept away by rich people’s smart smarmy lawyers who get judges to deny warrants and subpoenas and things like that. They can literally tie the hands of the police. For example, claim the mother is out of her mind, out for revenge etc and be able to deny probably cause to even interview the child or get the child to an independent doctor or psychologist. Unfortunately in a way this goes back to a very basic problem that pervades all the crimes we’ve seen – NO ONE can interfere with “parental rights” without rock solid proof/evidence etc.
Tori, no, I do not know her personally. I wish I did because then I could help her physically. I received a bulletin on this on my myspace on Monday from a help fight child abuse foundation and I contacted the site and I’ve been talking with a Connie there. I will post a blog from the mom in a minute.
I meant “deny probably cause” (sorry)
I did it again. I meant “deny probable cause.”
Geez. I guess I’m REALLY upset by this. Well I know I am.
This is what a lady named Connie sent me:
Hello I am the mother of the 3 year old child. The abuser has filed a restraining order on me to try to shut me up. He is claiming I am harrassing him and I am not in the slightest bit he is requesting that I cannot post any pictures of my daughter or the video so anything I have personally done I have taken down until we have court on the 6th. Let me go into a little bit of the story so all of you confused or that think this is a hoax can grasp the reality of the situation. The abuser abused my child and I when she was four weeks old and I fled to Alaska. We moved back because we were told by the court that she would be protected by the system through supervised visitation…and she was… up until I couldnt afford an attorney… the abuse began again in May of 2007 when the abuser discovered by stalking me that I had a began dating someone else… to make a long story short… cps has been involved 11 separate times or more…because of her complaining about him hitting her and hurting her pee pee…etc cps in our area is the worst cps in CA…look up Sacramento Bee CPS on google…placer county isnt any better… I was taking my child to a psychologist and the pediatrician and chiropractors from the abuser kicking her in the back in jan/feb of 2008…cps saw the bruises and did nothing. The court has never even seen this video… that is what I am in the process of doing… I am trying to get an attorney to present the evidence to the court. I have been through every other means with our effed up system…so my family and friends are doing it all for me who have witnessed this all go on as well… The detective from the police department never contacted a single person on my 2 page list of witnesses… the departments chief detective in sexual assault had just transfered so they didnt have one during the investigation. The abuser is so charming that he has managed to convince people I am crazy before they even talk to me or look at the evidence. This may be hard for some of you to grasp so you might want to read a book called “Why does he do that? “By Lundy Bancroft. Its about how abusers manipulate the entire system and more than often succeed at taking the child away from the mother to silence the abuse. This is all very very real and sickening.. It has been going on total almost 2 years this coming May..The abuser has his attorney talk his way out of everything with these so called professionals as you can see how far he has taken this… I am currently on supervised visitation and have been for almost 10 months. My daughter still comes in with rashes on her mouth and complains about her tongue hurting…etc She currently is “killing” and “burrying” all of her “dead ” toys as a symptom of him threatening to kill her and I and he has many times before… I just need an attorney to present this info in court or be able to afford a psychologist that can explain to the court what these games she is playing all means. He is threatening her not to tell and it is a hard battle while she is under his constant threats and control given that I see her 2 times a week for an hour each time. She is still refusing to use the bathroom even though i had her potty trained at an early age. For the people telling me to run or take her to the doctor I cant…I dont have custody of her… this is how abusers manage to shut their victims up and succeed at the abuse. There was even one point in time where he had the court order I couldnt even video tape… He is trying to shut me up so he doesnt get caught… I am not in any way coaching my child to say and do any of these things she has said and done. You cant coach a 2 year old to be afraid of beds and talk for 27 minutes straight about what her father has done to her… my daughter as been complaining about the abuse for almost 2 years now. The abuser is asking in court also that I not even get visitation because he is trying to avoid further documentation of what he is doing to her. I had a blog on myspace with numerous comments from witnesses and people in this town that know both him and I. He managed to have my entire account deleted after it had been passed around through 4000 people in a one week period. I am desparate to get my daughter out of this situation before he takes his anger out on her for telling on him. Thank you all for your support and willingness to help. I appreciate your help and I know Aaliyah does too.
I have been posting this to numerous places and you are the only ones that have responded. She says that the police won’t even watch the video and that the judge in the case was the boyfriend or girlfriend of the abusers friend? I don’t know, I didn’t read too much into that, I just jumped on the net trying to get her some help.
the video of the little 2 & 1/2 year old it may be true, so why does the Father still have custody,? if the police know all of this why dont police have a camera (surveilance ) in his house when he has visitation.
why isn’t he in Prison?
what kind of laws do have they
remember some men will marry to produce so they can have a baby to molest,
15 years ago I was living in a apt,
a man 50ish wanted to take nude photos of a baby mother called police ,, he had a record , pedophile
another case a guy molesting his daughter until she was 11 , he & mother separated reported him , the little girl cried wanted her dad bk (‘he Made me Feel good’ ) he is in prison,she went for alot of help to make her under stand it wasn’t a good feeling ..
the other guy died in prison ??
be careful dont trust anyone you dont know your neighbours husbands sons (uncles )especially sicko uncles I have another story about this 60 yr old Teacher , had to remove him from classes where 12-13 year olds girls were gave him boys only he really didn;t like boys they didn’t turn him on he is also dead
while living in same house ,, where is the mother while this is going on ? a case I heard of a father going to his sons room when he wanted it ,where was the mother in this case? I heard she knew but was afraid of her husband ,, this creep was arrested but let go, reasons ? he had to get back to work,
he did appear in court , got again a slap on the wrist
he went on chasing little 12-13 year old boys he even married one boys mother so he would be near him , now divorced now hangs out with Priest , born a pedophile always a pedophile
very sick, they should be all put on one of those tiny Island in the middle of an ocean have NO access to main land or anything starve to death .
they are slime bags not worth talking about the lowest piece of rotten garbage to me they smell like a decomposing bodys & I dont know what that is
Reading just a litttle here —
A Dr. friend of mine has a V8 every morning with his breakfast with a little squeeze of fresh lemon in it. I wonder if that would help our general health/immune system? We’d better do all we can now.
I think awhile back I remember reading that some household cleaners were only for BACTERIA — and not for FLU. **Others are for BOTH!!** I think we need to investigate and start buying the dual one – always.
Going to read more about pears – above. We learn good things here don’t we? Thanks whoever said that. PICKS??
I don’t know who papa is,but it sounds like he will do what he can to help! I don’t for one minute believe this is a hoax. The little child was doing all the talking…no coaching at all!! Dear God Help this poor child!
KARENCCC – 12:39 – That is devestating. CPS is overworked – they return children to families, only to have the worst happen.
I don’t know what is wrong in this world that LAW is always on the same side as the abuser, sex offenders.
KAREN – go to the first posts after the article and look for Pickles-MzBehavin. Click on her highlighted name. There is a petition to try to get stiffer penalties for sex offenders.
God Bless you ♥
Papa ok I just read the “about us” on that site. I only made it about half way thru the posting and I literally got sick and vomited. It is so disgusting. I could not help but notice, the very things I said would be the position of officials and what the father would say BEFORE I even noticed the “about us” was on the page, is exactly what I predicted it would be. I will try and finish the posting in a bit. I just can’t read it anymore right now. It is so painful, far to close to home for me. I just need absorb it a little at a time.
heart,yes i think this swine flu is bigger than we think,all over the world,did the whole world go on spring break to Mexico,Spain Britain?i think CDC is trying not to cause a panic
and yes if someone can confirm this story as true i will do anything to help,so tell me want to do?
KarenCCC I suggest you get help or you will regret it down the road …
Capy, is that the same petition for Nixmary’s Law? If not, I will sign it, but if it is I already did.
HEART – Pickles said that fresh pears, with the skin, helps lung function.
I’ll try everything too Heart. V-8 Fusion, someone said apple cider. Heck, lets just raid all the veggies & fruits. Take our cinnamon, olive oil, vitamins!!!
Read article on here that having a strong immune system DOES NOT help. I don’t care, I’m gonna give mine some push-ups – ha – you too?
Nana, I am trying to get the help that this little girl needs….so hard! Flowerchild, I am waiting for anyone to tell me what to do to help. I’ve already contacted a few lawyers in Auburn, CA, I contacted NG, Oprah, the state’s attorney office in Auburn, CA, Kathryn Wells from Denver CO, a newspaper editor in Auburn…I don’t know what else to do. They won’t give me the little girls last name so I can inudate the CPS with complaints of abuse….
gee wish we had the name of this guy,can anyone say vigilante blog team whoop ass
Karen how did you get involved with this story?
To all who are advising getting help, please trust me on this, the mother is trying to get help, she is doing all she can. I would bet my home, she has even considered going underground with her daughter. UNLESS you have been in a situation like this, you can’t believe how many people turn a blind eye to this mother. She is fighting the ex and the system that is protecting HIM. It happens all the time.
AnneA – I received a bulletin on my myspace on Monday from a “Help Fight Child Abuse Foundation” and I went to Aaliyah’s site, contacted them and I’ve been speaking to a Connie from there. She did leave once, she went to Canada, but after a year of not hearing from her ex, she thought it was safe to go back home to friends and family. He got custody soon after. She has supervised visits, or I am so sure she would have left by now.
People are shocked that this mother can’t get help. SADLY, things are much better now than they were when I first started advocating for children of sexual abuse. Better by leaps and bounds.
KAREN – I don’t know what Nixmary’s law is. I don’t think this is the same. A blogger on this site started it. He isn’t here now, he goes by Beast.
11:31 CAPY
I wonder if Prosecution can have two examples for the Jury to smell?
1. Old pizza, even with some kind of MEAT on it.
2. Somehow, SHOW THEM, pass around, the real smell of decomposition. Would an animal’s be that different from a human? Or would that give the wonderful defense team cause to yell… “THAT IS NOT HUMAN DECOMPOSITION … THAT IS … DIFFERENT!”
This is such an ugly, evil, crime and defense team that if ONLY they could put everything needed, right in the Juror’s lap.
Spindy was clever. The “dead man’s rule” ( I believe) wouldn’t let in Caylees supposed statement about Z’s “dog”. The testimony can’t be cross examined because she is not here – THE DEAN MAN’S RULE. BUT SHE GOT IT OUT THERE ANYHOW – DIDN’T SHE. She is a real slimy bi**h, and learned much from her lawyer about how to be dirty and sneaky. She can’t STAND to be under oath can she. SHE BELONGS IN JAIL RIGHT BESIDE HER LOVING DAUGHTER.
I was skeptical of the mother, because I have been reading so many child abuse cases recently (because of Caylee) and the mother’s usually do something to get their child taken away. But this does not seem to be the case. I thank you so much, AnneA. I felt so alone!
Karen so I guess my home is safe. So sad, I want to thank you Karen for caring. For taking up this fight that has NOT touched you personally. People like you are what these kids need. It is how, the only way, to stop the animals that use the children. Karen I understand this mother, this story and the frustration of screaming at the top of your lungs and still, nobody hears you.
AnneA and Karen – I have to go to drs. office & get mother a new prescription. Later on, we don’t want to go to drs. office if this flu hits and we are healthy. They don’t want me to phone it in, it is a controlled pain substance.
Capy, thank you, I will sign it then. If you think this story is sick, you should read about Nixmary….so sad…..
Capy ok hon be careful and drive safely.
HEART – One of these days I’m going to find Anthony & M’s text messages. Long story, but M mentions Zanny’s dog. That is where C got the idea.
But, gotta run.
PICKLES – WHERE ARE YOUUUUUU
Karen I wish there were 10 million like you. See you thought like many people do, the mother has to be bad….It is just NOT true. Women so often are to poor to get legal help but the father, the bread winner can get a lawyer. He can use his money to destroy the woman he shares a child with. He is evil and people who think this don’t happen are naive. I am a rape crisis counselor, I wonder if the mom has tried to contact them. They often have resources or know of them who can help. Lawyers who care, DA’s that want to save these kids from the abusers.
AnneA, please don’t thank me…..I don’t know why or how this happened, my wanting and needing to help children in these kinds of situations. I just know that 3000 children die a month from abuse and neglect, every SECOND there is a child being sexually assaulted. It makes my stomach turn that our world leaders are so infatuated with incredibly stupid stuff that they do not seek to prevent child abuse. I am sorry, for whatever it is you have gone through. I couldn’t stand by and just say “Oh, that is so sad” I had to do something. If she gets the help she needs, this site is the reason!
What this mother needs is a shark & bulldog combination attorney. Not only does she have to fight to get her child, she now has to prove she is NOT crazy, not trying to keep the child from the father to “get even” with him. Her fight is an uphill battle. The father just has to keep paying his attorney to do the dirty work. Its not fair, its not right but by the time the mother gets thru the red tape, this little girl will be damaged beyone repair.
KAREN, AnneA, PAPA
I think this video should be sent around the world UNTIL the pedophile is caught and convicted.
All TV stations, 60 Minutes, programs like that, Law & Order, Lifetimek, the FBI, the CIA, the White House, EVERYWHERE. Bad things happen when good people do nothing.
Maybe even send to newspapers, they can write about this situation. I am sure this is NOT the only one. IS the Judge a Pedophile who likes this kind of thing? HE should be exposed – name out there, EVERYWHERE.
What about the President Judge who oversees all Judges in that Court House? What about reporting that Judge to the Bar Association where this JUDGE is? Is there an American Bar Assocatiion?? IS he elected?? Then the local papers should carry this story. He won’t get elected again. I am not sure how that works wherever this is.
YELL FROM THE ROOF TOPS!!! WE can’t stop till this is FIXED!!! Thank you all for bringing this to our attention. All of you.
I too have heard about going underground. I sure would, I tell you! There are groups that help women hide I think because of filthy things such as this.
People in that area can Picket can’t they? At least until they are stopped? Picket the Court House, any place where they will hit large groups of people? Carry signs? ***Call the TV stations and tell when they will be doing this so it can get on the NEWS??***
Can’t the mother get his name out there … somehow. Just start getting it around? A PHOTO TOO? Of course, she can deny … deny.
PAPA can you put that on other blogs too? You *ARE* wonderful!!
I sent Connie an email to contact me immediately, so I am awaiting her reply to tell her to go to Rape Crisis! And there should be 10 million more of you, who actually care about a child and not the money! I think that is what is wrong with CPS, DHS and whatever they call themselves. I really do not think they care about the children. Have you seen Kelsey Smith Briggs case? OMG! I just can’t not do something about this!
I’m with Spacely…. we first need to verify this is NOT a hoax. There has got to be a police report or something in public record about these people. If we can just get LE or CPS to verify they are aware of this case it will be good enough for me to get involved. I just want to know it is true first and this isn’t another money scam. Have seen WAY too many of those. Not sure how we’re going to confirm this to be true without a last name and more information though. Ideas?
If anyone can prove this to be real or hoax it will be Papa! Papa, please keep us posted!
Heart, tell me how to do all that and I will! She is in Placer County, Auburn, California!
Karen thank you for caring about my plite. I am an adult now and what didn’t kill me indeed made me stronger. I was a disposable child, unwanted by my mother and the “kindness of others” came with a price more often then not. This is a fight, I will be in until I die. I have to, even today, I see some comments made by people who a well meaning but it is so clear to someone that has been there, they have no clue, about the realities of this crime.
Karen but to all the people who care enough to sign a petition or make a phone call they are a God send to the kids living this every day.
Karen, I agree with AnneA, If this child gets the help she desperately needs, it is because you cared enough to try and help her. you may have saved a childs life. God bless you.
I will be here also, until I die. Let me know if there is anything I can do here in Georgia….I am so lost without the education I need to do what you do…I don’t know where to begin! The baby is three, I am so hoping she will NOT be ruined by this…..And that’s what I mean by kindess of others comes with a price….I don’t want anything but this little girl to be saved! I have to leave in a minute to get my daughter from school, but I am anxiously awaiting Papa….I’ll be back soon! Thank you so much again!
Document dump coming tomorrow!!! Yeah!!
I may not have been clear when I advised that anyone interested in this video call the police dept and DCF listed on the video…
…you are correct in if they have not done anything, they are not going to…
…but my point is that they will give the your police report # and the DCF file # so that you know this is in fact for REAL…
…I am not questioning the authenticity of the video…however, from the website you have no idea how old it is or when it was made or who is in it or anything…
…another way to check up on this is in the court records…she is stating the father was awarded custody…there must be documentation of that on file with the county clerk and that is public records…
All I am really saying is that if you want to help, please be sure before you give any personal information or donate money that you see some kind of evidence that this is for real…not a video taken by a chimo and placed on the net to pull in bucks…
Heart you have some really GREAT ideas. However it may surprise you to know, many of the people you speak of, don’t want to get involved. It is considered to controversial, to dirty and something that should be handled quietly. I swear to God thats true.
Jules, you are a great person, I don’t know that some evil money grubbing SOB has not found this and is trying to use it to dupe good hearted people. I can tell you without any doubt the little girl on that video is for real. She is the victim of sexual abuse, of that I am sure. She is scared and confused and really don’t understand what is happening to her. She does not understand why someone won’t help her make the worm go away. I would stake my life on it.
Karen ccc..after seeing that video,I’m having a hard time composing myself..this is beyond an OUTRAGE!!it’s HORRIFIC!!Why hasn’t a dr.examined this child? I’m finding it hard to believe the courts would give full custody to dad?why wasn’t mom granted shared custody with him at least??? where is Auborn?is that where Aalayalives?Somethings not right..I don’t know of any DCFS, that would let aligations of child molestation slide!!!!this needs to be addressed nation-wide..this needs media coverage,this needs to stop yesterday..why did this go on for months?if that were my child “daddy” would have been” missing” for a time already!I’m sickened by this!
I got so excited when I saw this headline:
“Fla. Lawyer Disbarred For Sex With Client”
“Unfortunately it wasn’t Bozo. But the story is just as twisted and sick as I expect to read about him one day. The following is from wftv.com
TALLAHASSEE, Fla — A lawyer who let a female client work off her fee through sex has been disbarred by the Florida Supreme Court.
The justices Thursday cited James Harvey Tipler’s guilty plea to solicitation to prostitution as one of several instances of professional misconduct.
Tipler admitted having sex with his 18-year-old client and another woman in exchange for credits toward her $2,300 fee for handling a Bay County assault case, the justices wrote.
He agreed to take off $200 every time he had sex with her and $400 when she arranged sex with another woman.
The justices also found in other cases he altered evidence, caused a witness to give false testimony, charged excessive fees and stole clients’ money.”
Copyright 2009 by The Associated Press.
I am just sick about this…went looking around the web to see if there was any information out there and found this:
“Help save Aaliyah” petition!
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/help-save-aaliyah
TERISA, MOM LOST CUSTODY BECAUSE SHE RAN WITH THE CHILD. NO QUESTIONS ASKED, SHE ENGAGED IN SELF HELP AND IT COST HER AND THE CHILD. People having problems believing what they see and hear provides the vacumm that allows these predators the oxygen needed to keep offending. It is naive to think help is really just a phone call away. This is a war and the kids are hanging in the balance.
I remember a case a long time ago where a young woman worked hard to put her husband thru law school, had three kids with him, and when he made it BIG, he dumped her to marry his secretary. He was such a big fish in that area and got his big fish buddies to back him up so that she had practically no representation and no money to hire it and she got NOTHING! She was stone-walled at every turn. She went over the edge and one morning drove over to the ex husbands brand new huge home and shot him and his new wife dead in their bed.
I know that was an awful crime and she should not have done it. On the other hand, people like her husband who lack ALL decency and think they are above the law or can use the law are NOT above a bullet!
I hoped at the time that that sent a message to all the people who helped him impoverish and humilate his wife that their time could come too and I hoped they’d re-think their priorities (and values – if they had any).
What is the mother afraid of? afraid of mentioning his name? he’s a child predator..he needs to be exposed to protect all children!her accusations of molestation..stop being an accusation and become a FACT, when mom takes the child to a doctor!what is she waiting for?If someone was hurting my child, there’s no laws,no tactics, no NOTHING..that would stop me from protecting my child..mommy is all she’s got to protect her!
m2c yes she is still in prison for shooting hubby and his new wife. It happened in California, Dan and Betty Brodrick.
KarenCCC…
I just read your posts on here about this little girl. Could you please email me at jannyo@gmail.com and we can see if we can come up with some way to help this child. No promises but we can try.
I looked at the video and I got choked up and started crying. To think of any child having to go through this is disgusting and so wrong. The abuser of this baby doesn’t deserve to have this child and if this is true he doesn’t deserve to be walking the streets.
Please once again email me when you can and we can talk and see if there is something we can do to stop this.
God bless you, for caring so much and this child that deserves so much better than this.
Jan Barrett
TERISA THE MOTHER IS NOT AFRAID, READ ALL OF IT. SHE POSTED EVERYTHING. THE FATHER WITH THE HELP OF HIS LAWYER GOT 17 MINUTES OF IT TAKEN OFF THE POST…. SHE RAN WITH THE CHILD TO KEEP HER SAFE… SHE WAS IN HIDING FOR A YEAR, THOUGHT THE FATHER HAD GIVEN UP, WHEN SHE RETURNED, SHE LOST THE CHILD OVER RUNNING.
JAN thank you.
Diane – where did you hear that? Doc Dump tomorrow? Yipeee!
Spacely – I agree COMPLETELY! I believe the child is real, the video is real….I just want to make sure the intentions for all of this are for real and not a money scam. How are we going to confirm this without names though?
Jan – THANK YOU! If we can confirm that his is all real and not a money scam, I believe many of us will be willing to get involved and help out. Is there anyway you and Simon can confirm this is all legit for us? I think Papa is working on that as well….. you may want to get in touch with Papa to see what he has already done or not done. He seems to have some good resources too! Please keep us posted Janny! God Bless You!
******I have an idea****put this child in daycare, if money is an issue, there county programs for ppl that can’t afford to pay regular prices, also there’s summer programs for pre-schoolers, there are ppl trained to spot abuse and report it and have it investigated..it’s a start..meanwwhile I guess Beast’s petition is a start for us here at BNN,,that petition has to go nation-wide! anyone whose seen that video, can’t just sit on it…we MUST do something! anything!
I found this on another site…someone contacted the police about this little girl because they wanted to give money but can’t verify the story, this is the response they got:
WOW – got a response (not a robot) in 7 minutes!!
“We just got another email from a concerned citizen about this. We will be checking into it. Thank you
Dee Dee Gunther
Analyst/Police PIO
Roseville Police Department
City of Roseville
1051 Junction Blvd.
Roseville, CA 95678
(916) 774-5015/Mobile (916)257-1942
http://www.roseville.ca.us“
LOOKS LIKE TOMORROW IS CHRISTMAS KIDS…..
The State Attorney’s Office is expected to release hundreds of pages of documents Friday in the case against Casey Anthony.
The investigative documents will include law enforcement interviews with witnesses and lab reports.
Public records laws require the state to release information prosecutors provide to the defense. The State Attorney’s Office has already turned over this information to Anthony’s attorney, Jose Baez.
THE FATHER WITH THE HELP OF HIS LAWYER GOT 17 MINUTES OF IT TAKEN OFF THE POST
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This is a red flag for me…it is virtually impossible to get anything taken off of the internet, especially from a one-shot site…but I am sure Jan and Simon know way more about that…but it also seems to me it would take a long time to run through the courts to get that done…and create another big public paper trail that someone should be able to find…
More Info:
Domain Name………. saveaaliyah.com
Creation Date…….. 2009-04-05
Registration Date…. 2009-04-05
Expiry Date………. 2011-04-05
Organisation Name…. Deanna DeSoto
Organisation Address. 9055 Posada Way
Organisation Address.
Organisation Address. Sacramento
Organisation Address. 95826
Organisation Address. CA
Organisation Address. UNITED STATES
Admin Name……….. Deanna DeSoto
Admin Address…….. 9055 Posada Way
Admin Address……..
Admin Address…….. Sacramento
Admin Address…….. 95826
Admin Address…….. CA
Admin Address…….. UNITED STATES
Admin Email………. pleasehelpaaliyah@yahoo.com
Admin Phone………. +1.9168214159
Admin Fax…………
Tech Name………… YahooDomains TechContact
Tech Address……… 701 First Ave.
Tech Address………
Tech Address……… Sunnyvale
Tech Address……… 94089
Tech Address……… CA
Tech Address……… UNITED STATES
Tech Email……….. domain.tech@yahoo-inc.com
Tech Phone……….. +1.6198813096
Tech Fax………….
Name Server………. yns1.yahoo.com
Name Server………. yns2.yahoo.com
JAN – you and Simon are great. Papa’s working on this too.
I imagine media (newspapers, TV) are afraid of lawsuits until this can be proven.
What scares me is when this little girl gets old enough to really discuss what is happening with school, friends, parents of friends, relatives. What will the father do?
I just called and spoke to Dee Dee Gunther from the post Spacely provided above. They are looking into this…. are NOT aware of the case involving this child but will do research to confirm one way or another. They are also looking into whether this is a money scam or not. They have received numerous calls and emails so are getting involved to find out what is going on.
Spacely – so the site was just created on 4-5-09? The gal at the police dept. said they are getting lots of calls and emails so are going to investigate – this was not an actual case she was aware of. I’m getting more and more suspicious of this….how bout’ you?
Jules,
That is the biggest red flag for me yet…that message I posted was from 2 days ago…so for them to still be trying to identify who it is…if you want help for your child, why is it no one can figure out who you or your child or the accussed is?
jules – ♥
OK i was trying to catch up and came across karens post went in and looked at video, i did go to the petion site and tried to get one going but i couldnt remember what my password was thanks to tanya nelson she has it up now so i signed THANK YOU LORIM FOR POSTING THE SITE. this is CRAZY….
watching the news this morning another mom out in CA 18 month old gone now too. THEY NEED TO START GIVING OUT DEATH PENALTIES TO PEOPLE WHO KILL PERIOD!!!!
also trying to keep up with my wonderful bnn blogger family that keeps hopping around like rabbits lol HELLO ALL 🙂
The other red flag for me is that with a video of this quality…it seems local news media would love to get their hands on it…
KIM I too am ill over that video and BIG WORM!
KAREN I am here with a husband that has multiple health problems. We just solved one major one. I think it put me in the hospital, over the Easter holiday. That happens so often to Caregivers I read.
I think the Rape Crisis place, and AnneA are good places to start, plus calling the Court House for phone numbers/extensions – and FOLLOW UP WITH A GOOD SHORT LETTER! Always. Have friends or the Rape Crisis Center check that the letter is ok.
On the net I think you can get the addresses of other things, American Bar Association, the local Bar Assocition of the county where this is, etc. etc.
I am getting “up there” now and have my plate quite full. Need knee surgery from a fall but can’t get it … husband needs care. Only makes things much harder for me here. Not easy.
I will always answer questions you have, if I know the answers. I think you are a wonderful girl!! I can help in the areas where I can…
Have learned, you have to start somewhere. You call wherever … and you ask for help, DIRECTION, etc. Had some of this in my own family … I know.
Buy a notebook and keep good records for yourself, and accurate phone numbers, and what was done/said. Can get confusing because it’s so emtional!!
All of you/us must stay calm when doing this. If we get very upset, they will write us off! Why that is, I don’t know, but it IS what it IS. Maybe ah just a hysterical woman … going thru a divorce. I was a Grand mother – in my situation. I told them…”Please don’t misunderstand my tears … I am just heartbroken.” Was a daughter – in- law, if you can believe!
Spacely – I’m with ya. Dee Dee Gunther wanted to know how I had heard about this, wanted to know how this was being passed around,and stated they’ve been getting a great deal of calls and emails about this. She said she was not aware of this case and had not heard the names before but that they were investigating this and well as the possibility of it being a money scam.
SPACLEY, not if the mother was trying to get evidence to go to court with something like this, maybe after a court date was set, i could see this hitting the news
This is another comment from another site that I find to be of value:
If I were trying to get money to fund a legal fight, I would list an atty and have donations sent directly to them. Not to myself!
Hi everyone, I don’t mean to enterupt but would like to help the woman who has the child that is being sexually abused. I don’t know what area she is from or what type of resources they have. The mother or caregiver of this child should make a report to not only social services but also to LE in the count or state the alleged abuse is taking place in. The next step she needs take is to have the child texamined by a doctor who specializes in these types of crimes so that they can doccument the abuse and be an expert witness in court. If Social Services is already involved they should have already contacted LE and scheduled the examination for this child. In most areas they also have therapists and other licensed specialist who can conduct forensic interviews and give expert testimonies in court. Social Services and therapists can refer a child for a forensic interview. Most judges and Social Service agencies do not want to look at tapes ect. because they are not addmissable in court and supposedly can not be used as evidence. I hope this helps!
spac, are donations going to the mother,
gina, I don’t see how the mother is gathering evidence by setting up a website for donations…once you are at the donation stage, you must be ready for a legal fight…
…it just feels scammy to me…
…again, I totally believe the video is real…but the source is the question…
Spacely – I’m anxious to see what Jan and Papa come up with. I’m thinking this is a scam.
Connie Bedwell (pleasehelp@saveaaliyah.com) This is the lady I have been in contact with.
geez i got get ready to go to work some body keep this updated and check back in tonight when im off work, now im all rouweled up
gina, there is no way to know, they go to a paypal account…
SPACE, i agree i really think that the video is real too i get goosebumbs thinking bout it and this is real that SOB NEEDS HIS WORM CUT OFF!!!
CAPY … Oh part of maggot’s embelishments – the dog, etc. Pathological liars always do that, embellish – thinking it will sound more real/true.
I remember at my Stalking Hearing, wondering why the Judge let the Stalker’s mother (he was 17) go on, and on, and on, and on with her stories, and GREAT DETAILS too, just like maggot. I guess he was making sure she felt she “had her full say”. She spoke 80 times longer than I did, and I was the Plaintiff. He must have had lots of experience with this pathological liars. I had none.
But, he who laughs last … laughs best! He found him guilty and fined him! The Judge said if it was worded differently (guess the cop goofed – should have been Stalking – not Harassment), he would be going to Juvie Jail. But – at least I WON. This was probably the first time (as in maggot), Mommy couldn’t fix things. When their deeds get bad enough that they affect society, YEAAA – LE DOES get involved. Then the fun begins … maggot.
Spacely – I was reading some of the stuff on that site under “about us”. The child is 2 yrs old but the comments state that the child has been complaining about abuse for 2 yrs. So has the child been “complaining” about abuse since birth? I don’t think so! And the paragraph below states the same thing….this is from Karen’s post above…… “can’t coach a 2 yr old”…..”complaining about the abuse for almost 2 yrs now”. So how old is this child suppose to be now? She left town for one year – went to Alaska – so how old was she when they left? The age thing is messing me up here! Spacely – help me out!
You cant coach a 2 year old to be afraid of beds and talk for 27 minutes straight about what her father has done to her… my daughter as been complaining about the abuse for almost 2 years now. The abuser is asking in court also that I not even get visitation because he is trying to avoid further documentation of what he is doing to her. I had a blog on myspace with numerous comments from witnesses and people in this town that know both him and I. He managed to have my entire account deleted after it had been passed around through 4000 people in a one week period.
ok im outta here good day everyone!!! 🙂
hi HEART
SPACELY As I was reading the particulars of this case I got emotional. But I think it said the mother had posted on this on her MySpace page and the father’s lawyer got a cour order demanding she remove it from her MySpace which was prior to it hitting the general internet. But it started out of the mothers MySpace and most certainly been removed, right? I am not computer savvy but that is my understanding of it.
Also the 10 minute video is all the video time allowed where it was posted. So the 17 missing minutes also had something to do with that.
All I can say is that the mother claims she has had myspace’s and facebooks up and they get deleted “magically”. And the lady from the site said that the web designer would only put up 10 minutes of the tape because that’s all it would allow. As I said before, if this is a hoax, I will be angry. But if I did nothing about it, I would never, EVER forgive myself!
Oddly enough, Connie Bedwell in Placer County CA (where Roseville is) did something in child support court about a month ago:
25-MAR-2009 0023860 R BEDWELL CONNIE J PLACER COU CHILD SUPPORT SERV NT SUP JUDG
AnneA, are you speaking with Connie too?
Karen – you still here? HOw old is the little girl supposed to be now? At what age did the mother take her to Alaska? Why did she return if they were safe in Alaska? The email you posted from “Connie” is actually an exact copy of what was posted on the website. Did Connie give you any other detail other than just providing you with a copy of the info already on the website? Phone number? Relationship to these people? Any other info?
Heart – bless you ♥
I’ve been taking care of my very-disabled mother 5 l/2 years. I worry myself sick that I might get ill, or break a leg.
How could I supervise caregivers 24-hours day, if I’m in hospital or something. It’s just mom & me.
I do a lot of praying. We all have our Crosses to bear. I will say a pray for you and your hubby. Love you.
Spacely – did what in Child Support Court? Like a plantiff or what?
Karen, they posted the vid on You Tube…the site links back to the You Tube post…You Tube has an internal limit of 10 min per video…
However, even I can cut a video into segments and post them all on You Tube and link them all to a site…so any webdesigner can as well…
This is another red flag to me…
HEART – Did you hear about the little boy who was terrified to go to church. Finally his parents got it out of him: He was afraid of the cross-eyed bear he heard in the hymns.
Ha – this isn’t true – it’s a joke.
Yes, Julesb65, I just got back….I’ll re-post her blog:
Hello I am the mother of the 3 year old child. The abuser has filed a restraining order on me to try to shut me up. He is claiming I am harrassing him and I am not in the slightest bit he is requesting that I cannot post any pictures of my daughter or the video so anything I have personally done I have taken down until we have court on the 6th. Let me go into a little bit of the story so all of you confused or that think this is a hoax can grasp the reality of the situation. The abuser abused my child and I when she was four weeks old and I fled to Alaska. We moved back because we were told by the court that she would be protected by the system through supervised visitation…and she was… up until I couldnt afford an attorney… the abuse began again in May of 2007 when the abuser discovered by stalking me that I had a began dating someone else… to make a long story short… cps has been involved 11 separate times or more…because of her complaining about him hitting her and hurting her pee pee…etc cps in our area is the worst cps in CA…look up Sacramento Bee CPS on google…placer county isnt any better… I was taking my child to a psychologist and the pediatrician and chiropractors from the abuser kicking her in the back in jan/feb of 2008…cps saw the bruises and did nothing. The court has never even seen this video… that is what I am in the process of doing… I am trying to get an attorney to present the evidence to the court. I have been through every other means with our effed up system…so my family and friends are doing it all for me who have witnessed this all go on as well… The detective from the police department never contacted a single person on my 2 page list of witnesses… the departments chief detective in sexual assault had just transfered so they didnt have one during the investigation. The abuser is so charming that he has managed to convince people I am crazy before they even talk to me or look at the evidence. This may be hard for some of you to grasp so you might want to read a book called “Why does he do that? “By Lundy Bancroft. Its about how abusers manipulate the entire system and more than often succeed at taking the child away from the mother to silence the abuse. This is all very very real and sickening.. It has been going on total almost 2 years this coming May..The abuser has his attorney talk his way out of everything with these so called professionals as you can see how far he has taken this… I am currently on supervised visitation and have been for almost 10 months. My daughter still comes in with rashes on her mouth and complains about her tongue hurting…etc She currently is “killing” and “burrying” all of her “dead ” toys as a symptom of him threatening to kill her and I and he has many times before… I just need an attorney to present this info in court or be able to afford a psychologist that can explain to the court what these games she is playing all means. He is threatening her not to tell and it is a hard battle while she is under his constant threats and control given that I see her 2 times a week for an hour each time. She is still refusing to use the bathroom even though i had her potty trained at an early age. For the people telling me to run or take her to the doctor I cant…I dont have custody of her… this is how abusers manage to shut their victims up and succeed at the abuse. There was even one point in time where he had the court order I couldnt even video tape… He is trying to shut me up so he doesnt get caught… I am not in any way coaching my child to say and do any of these things she has said and done. You cant coach a 2 year old to be afraid of beds and talk for 27 minutes straight about what her father has done to her… my daughter as been complaining about the abuse for almost 2 years now. The abuser is asking in court also that I not even get visitation because he is trying to avoid further documentation of what he is doing to her. I had a blog on myspace with numerous comments from witnesses and people in this town that know both him and I. He managed to have my entire account deleted after it had been passed around through 4000 people in a one week period. I am desparate to get my daughter out of this situation before he takes his anger out on her for telling on him. Thank you all for your support and willingness to help. I appreciate your help and I know Aaliyah does too.
I asked Connie for the littler girls last name, but because her ex has a restraining order against her she could not give it to me. She said that the girl’s mother cannot post anything more on this, herself, because of the restraining order so she and her friends and family posted the website.
Spacely – are you reading ANY of my posts? lol
Karen NO I don’t know anyone named Connie, I saw your post and re-acted. The tears and anger instantly comes up and like you, if this is real and still going on, I have to help. This little girl MUST be protected. I refuse to give anyone the benefit of the doubt about this. As far as this being a scam, and it may very well be, I however will not let the CHANCE that it is a scam stop me from doing what I can. I don’t have to answer for it, if its a scam. I do have to answer for it, if its real and I did nothing, for fear that someone would get a few bucks off me. Money is not that important to me. I would rather risk it attempting to help then keep it and do nothing. Just the way I think.
Spacely, as I have stated now twice or maybe three times, I am sure there are a lot of hoaxes out there. I will say sorry to everyone here for wasting their time, but if I didn’t do anything I would hate myself. If it isn’t a hoax and you all can help me help her, I will be so greatful! I will be able to sleep at night! I will just love you all!
AnneA, it was just weird that you posted almost the same exact thing I did. I’m getting my info from that Connie, so I just had to ask. Exactly (about the money) I told her I didn’t have money, but I had the time to try and help and Connie told me that was fine and she would accept any help!
HEART – Just saw you post about the stalking ordeal. Glad you won that. But, he probably will never be cured ,.
I have to run & do some things now. Plus, I want a clear slate for tomorrow. I checked Orlando Sentinel and there is an article aboud the document release. Dad-gumit though. Release on a Friday isn’t as much fun, because we usually want to follow NG. Oh well.
Karen – we want to help and we’re doing everything we can to make sure there is actually a little girl TO help. I’ve called the police department – I know Jan and Simon will do everything they can to verify the information. Papa is like a bloodhound and if there is a way to prove this to be legit, he will. Spacely and I are trying to verify everything too! We WANT to help but I wouldn’t recommend ANYONE send money ANYWHERE just yet. Give us 24 hours or so to verify some info. We find out this is legit you can bet a lot of us will be sending donations and doing EVERYTHING possible to help this child. My greatest fear is that his is a REAL video but the rest of the story is fake and we’ll never know WHO that child was or be able to help her! That scares me more than ANYTHING!
Okay, so the child is 3 now and she’s been complaining of abuse for 2 yrs? Can a baby at 1 yo complain of abuse?
Julesb65, thank you so much. I don’t know if you’ve read all of my posts, but I felt so alone before I came here this morning, now I feel happy and am so glad that I came here. I am so greatful!
Karen I don’t know what post was similiar to yours but there is a good reason that may happen. I don’t dabble in the problem of children being sexually abused. It is my mission to stop this. I have been volunteering for rape crisis since the 80s. Through personal experience and my work with the crisis center, I have seen to many of these stories, way to many.
AnneA 1:46..I didn’t realize she went into hiding and that was how she lost her..thanks for enlightening me!!you just don’t want to believe it’s real..OMG
Julesb65, I beleive that a child at one can complain of abuse. My daughter Tricia, who is now 17, was speaking full sentences by then. I think it all depends on how well developed verbally a child is.
Jules yes a child of one can complain not always with words. There are actions that indicate these things are going on.
You are quite right, thank you heart!
julesb65 said,in April 30th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
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Sorry, work always in the way of the blog…
Anyway, I can’t tell, it is cryptic and you have to order a copy of the stuff and pay for it, but it does say she was the Grantor – but I am not sure what that means in a child support case…
Jules! Sorry I didn’t respond, got a little waylayed there! See you found the info. I got it from Orlando Sentinel. Can’t wait to see the new evidence. Or is it evidence? Let’s ask Brad Conway.
Karen keep up the good work. Please don’t get discouraged. Children can never have to many advocates or to much protection. I need to compose myself and then I will be back on. This is just ripping my heart out and I am ready to lose it. Got to get it together. Thank you for bringing this to light.
Karen,
I do believe the video is real…it would be too hard to scam a video of that quality…it certainly seems real…
I think it is fantastic that you want to help this girl. Everyone on this site does.
But unless the police can verify for us that such a case exists, you could be sending money to a child molester or worse.
I am not telling anyone not to help, I am trying to say that in order to help, you should research this case so that you know all the facts and then will know the best way to help.
Jan and Simon can be trusted to bring us the truth.
Jules, I have to defer to the mothers here…if they say a child of that age can tell others about abuse, I accept that…
Spacely, thank you. I have already stated that I told her that I would not be sending any money and she was fine with that. She is still emailing me, so I just can’t think this isn’t real. I am staying right here, waiting to see if it is real or not. Thank you all, again.
Spacely – I’m a mom too – my son is 14…. I just can’t remember him being that “vocal” at 1. I’m just trying to tear all of this apart and get to the truth. If this IS legit, I want to help. I’m just a bit of a skeptic about EVERYTHING! I’m from Missouri – the Show Me State – if this wasn’t a serious topic, we could have fun with that! 😆
Has anyone contacted the D.A.’s office or even the AG’s office, regarding the alleged abuse of little girl in question? It just seems a little bit on the fishy side to me but it could be true.
Karen – we will get to the truth and by the way, Welcome to BNN! You won’t find a more dedicated group of people when it comes to children. We are here to give voices to the children that have lost theirs at the hands of murderers. We are ALL about locking up sex offenders and throwing away the key. We’re very glad you brought this story to us and we WILL get to the truth. We WILL get some help for this child if there is indeed a child to help. With that said, again, WELCOME TO BNN! We will be glad to have you here as part of our BNN family but I’ll warn you, on slow news days, things can get, well, a little strange on here. This morning we were all pirates and well, I won’t go into too much detail, but it got a little wild! LOL
tlk_77777 – I called the police dept…. they are checking into it. We’ve got some other folks that are researching this too. From what I’ve seen and what Spacely has managed to dig up, I’m thinking it is fishy too. However, if this IS true, I’ll be ready to do whatever it takes to help this little baby girl. I’m just not going to send money blindly because as Spacely stated, I’m not sending some Chimo money!
It appears the Grantor in child support is the person who pays child support…
Here is the other part of the story I don’t like: “I had a blog on myspace with numerous comments from witnesses and people in this town that know both him and I. He managed to have my entire account deleted after it had been passed around through 4000 people in a one week period.”
What does that mean? He obtained a legal order? I have never heard of any MySpace page being legally shut down, but it could be…but again, it would have taken a really long time…
Jules- I just saw where you are from Mo. I lived in the show me state for several years. My first husband was from Clinton Mo and my 2 daughters were both born there. Originally I am from Iowa but SC has been home for the last 33 years. My God I am getting on up in years.
Spacely – maybe Connie needs some $ to pay child support…. maybe that is the reason behind this website…. just a thought!
Thank you so much Julesb65. I have been reading this site since the Money Trail came about. I wish when I first heard of this story I came here first. And it was just as a last resort that I did. No one else has contacted me or responded since Monday. And everyone needs to be silly, it takes away from the pain of the real stuff. Thank you for the welcome!
AnneA – I was born in MO, lived in Biloxi, Mississippi for awhile, Tulsa, Oklahoma for awhile, traveled all over the country for my last job and ended up living back in MO. I’ve tried to leave several times and I end up back here so I’ve decided to stay! 😆
Spacely, it says that her ex has a gag order on her.
Hi all
Gag order could explain the deleting of myspace account wouldn’t it? If she kept talking about it..
Idk that video made me ill and very upset…
Karen There is a man on here that is known as Papa. When he watched the video, he flipped out. The last post he made, he said he was going to get to the bottom of this. If you scroll back you can read it for yourself. Now this is a man who went to the time, trouble and expense of ferrating out the tape that was put around Caylee’s head. I think he will indeed uncover this whole story and will bring back what he finds. I don’t know him, but he impresses the hell out of me, with his get it done attitude. He really cares and is very knowledgeable about a litiany of things. Rest assured this story is now in hands that will reach out if the need is there. People here do care.
AnneA is right on the money. Small children can show abuse in other ways; crying and shying away when around the abuser or people they don’t trust, they may act out abuse the abuse with toys or even other children… The sad truth is…it happens,and it happens everyday.
AnneA, I did read that. I replied to his post thanking him. I actually started crying and shaking after reading it. The lonliness just melted away at that point. I am so happy that I came here.
It’s possible she is closer to four now.
About communication very young Vinny knew how to nod yes or shake his head no.. She would know the words dada at least and learned worm from that fugging chimo!
So true Kim, I don’t know the recent study results but a couple of years ago 7 out of 10 girls are molested in some way by the age of 18 and interestly enough 3 out of every 10 boys are abused before the same age. It is an epidemic. It’s not that it happens more then it did in years past, we just hear about it now. It used to be kept quiet.
Ugh AnneA that is so depressing it makes me watch my boy even closer hearing those statistics and all these cases were hearing lately.
Just letting everyone here know that I have just finished reading Aaliyah’s story. Came here late today. I am beyond sick. Please, if there is anything I can do, I’ll follow your steps. I have her heart in my prayers. Her mother too. All the ideas I had for reporting to the proper authorites have been mentioned by all of you. Papa will hopefully come to the rescue with tons of info. If anyone can, it’s our Papa!
Good Afternoon All……I am back at my office now. I have a young man who handles all of my computer installation, service, and program needs. He knows as much, if not more, about computers as I do about the construction industry. I met with him and hired him to get me the facts of this situation. I copied the post and took it with me when I left, and we reviewed it at his shop.
In all honesty, he has pointed out some things, that in my fury I had not noticed. The video appears to be a professional production. There is night vision equipment used and even the script is synchronized with the child’s words. He also has pointed out that nowhere in the video can you actually see the child’s mouth speaking the words. The equipment necessary for this video is not likely to be at hand for the average person. All of these are red flags which initially concern him.
I hired him to delve into all aspects of this situation. I want copies of any public records available. I want to know, quite honestly, what stated reason was given by the court for not awarding custody to the mother initially. I want the web site looked into for any information available as to it’s structure. Basically I want him to find any and all facts through independent verification. He is very, very good at what he does.
It will take him until the first of next week sometime to get back with me. If this is real, I will know it. If this is a scam, I will know it.
Once I have the facts, I will then decide what my heart demands that I do.
Karen I to am glad you found your way here. Like I said I don’t know Papa, except from his postings here but from what I have seen, he is a force to be reckoned with. I think if I had a problem, I would want him in my corner. You can tell a lot about people by listening to them, and he is VERY impressive. Oddly there are a few men who post here. This has for the most part a fight, fought by mostly women. The men in here are most definitely soldiers in this war. I don’t think they realize just how darn special and unique they are.
I’m just popping in and out.
AnneA – those figures make me sick. WHAT is going on? Oh, I know that sounds stupid of me to ask that. But, I really can’t understand so morally lacking people.
KAREN – the mother may have a gag order on HER, but there no gag order on us!!
oh gosh speak of the devil, sorry Papa I didn’t see you, I was writing my last comments and talking about you. Sorry
Capy those figures are from 2 or 3 years ago. I will look the next time I am at the center to see the most recent findings. These numbers are real and in no way embelished. These are investigated and documented cases of abuse. I don’t know what is going on, nothing new, I don’t think. It seems like its worse but that is only because nobody used to talk about it. It was taboo.
AnneA This mother has to learn maggot’s tricks. She should learn how to get a pro bono DREAM TEAM to help her. Maybe if she or FRIENDS can do things to get it out there, the Dream Team will come out of the woodwork like maggots did? If they smell money, future books, fims, etc.????
I hope Drs. have documented her STD infections in her little mouth.
Now isn’t this just great! They manufacture their own little victims… literally make them! I wonder if he has made any more?
I knew of some males that seek out women who are divorced or separated who already HAVE young children. I have seen them go from woman to woman … always hooking up with females that have ready made young victims there in the house. They are there for the taking – when alone with them. Clever and determined, aren’t they? They SURE take good care of themselves, AND their sick needs. Losers that can’t make it – with a grown woman. Need to FORCE themselves on a helpless unwilling little child. World Class Losers. Imagine one – touching you? YUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A gag order does not explain the deletion of a MySpace account.
If that was the reason, I am sure MySpace would have contacted her telling her they were taking down the site.
Otherwise, she would have had to have done it on her own…most likely at the advice of an atty…but she says she does not have an atty…
Papa, excellent points about the video…absolutely correct about the mouth movements…although the night vision stuff is pretty readily available right now…and I could personally put the words and stuff on the video…however, it takes a lot of time, probably a couple of hours at the minimum and they used a lot of editing tricks that the average person would not have…
…in my heart…I feel they stole this video from elsewhere and posted it on this site…
As I read back over the posts, I see I am not the only one depending on Papa to get to the bottom of this. Papa I hope we are not putting to much pressure on you. All you can do is what you can do. No effort is wasted. I know I already feel better about this situation knowing so many here have taken an interest and also the first steps needed to get help for this child, if indeed help is needed.
PAPA – Thank you!!! It is worth the wait to find the truth. Bless you and the computer man ♥
Where is Pickles – is she on a ship?? With my Johnny?
Papa and Spacely, thank you for all of your knowledge and help. I know there are basic video camera’s with night vision already in their “make-up” for lack of the right words. I don’t know when this video was taken, but she did have an attorney at first AND a phsycologist. But she states that she doesn’t have any money now. Especially since her ex got a “shark of a lawyer”. I am a transcriptionist, so I know how easy it is to transcribe. I’m not saying you are wrong, I’m just saying it’s easy to do? Papa, I’ve heard so many nice things about you….again I will say thank you and am so glad I decided to post this here.
Spacely HIS lawyer could have told her to take it down or else. If she is under court orders not to discuss this case, posting this stuff would be a violation of that order.
Everyone here has watched the antics of a money hungry crooked lawyer with Bozo. These guys are creeps and they do whatever necessary to keep their clients happy. That is their bread and butter.
Good work Papa – keep us posted. I am very skeptical about this site as well. I called the Roseville PD and spoke with Dee Dee Gunther – she was not aware of this case – they are looking into this as a possible scam as well – have received several calls and emails to determine the validity of this website. Spacely has done a lot of digging too! Good work by the way Spacely. He found a case of this Connie person being in court recently – possibly as the payor of child support – I’m wondering if she created this site as a money maker – maybe needing to pay child support. If this is a legit case, then we ALL want to help. But something inside me says this is a scam.
Just another example of how God works in mysterious ways….I’m starting to feel alittle better… I truly hope it is a hoax,if not, I’ll be praying for this sweet little child.
AnneA..wouldn’t his lawyer had told her to delete the whole thing? what’s the point of deleting just a part of it?
AnnaA,
I agree about the other lawyer threatening her…but she makes it sound as if poof, the MySpace with all the comments was gone one day.
I would think if she shut it down herself, she would have printed all the info first, which might be helpful in court…
Hello all !!
Welcome to BNN !!
Ahoy mates!
Whars mah Papa? 🙂
Pickles – where you been – we’ve been trying to unravel a mystery and Papa and Spacely have been playing Master Detectives again!
Oh and Pickles – Doc Dump tomorrow in the Maggot case! Yipeeeee! Lab reports to be included! This should be GOOOOODDDDD!
I posted this on “kelseyspurpose.com” and I just went to see if I had any replies. All, please go take a look
http://brokenchild.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=70&t=529
Wooohooo…Im doing a Sandra Cantu update!! ♥
I see we have lots of new faces today!! 🙂 Awesome!! ♥
Papa I didnt understand you email….
Hi, Pickles – I signed your petition today. I signed one earlier in the week for NixMary’s Law, I didn’t know if it was the same one, signed yours anyway.
Terisa I can’t imagine a court order that could cover EVERYTHING she might say. Any info identifying any of the players has certainly been eliminated. It all depends on how the gag order is constructed.
You know I am sitting here, knowing I have been present in court rooms and watched this same scenerio played out dozens of times. I can promise you if the mans attorney did force her to remove identifying info and couldn’t force her to take down everything, that father is telling his lawyer to get it off there.
There is no doubt, if this is real, that lawyer is telling the father, his client not to worry number one nobody will be able to recgnize him and two people reading it, WON’T WON’T WON’T believe it. She won’t be taken seriously by anyone in a position to cause him any trouble. Again I would bet my house on it, I can hear the attorney and the fathers conversations. I am sure the attorney has paperwork filed right now to force the mom to remove ALL info.
Hi KarenCCC thank YOU for signing the petition!! Say its nice that you are here with us!!
Kim..if it is a hoax..don’t you think it’s a crime to do that to a child??
OMG its already 5pm, guess I have missed my 4:30 appointment, this isn’t like me. Got to run will be back later.
I also think that a ‘gag order’ in a civil case is a red flag…almost never is a gag order imposed on a civil case…and it seems as if at this point, there is no civil or criminal case pending, no upcoming trial, so there is no way for anyone to have a gag order imposed – it has to be connected to a trial…
…lots of confusing information coming from Connie…
AnneA if that child was coerced in any way what a sick joke.wouldn’t the child have to be examined by a dr. to determine is in fact sh was molested??Can a judge order a drs.examination and then charge the guilty parent accordingly?
Spacely, this is a portion of the email I received from Connie on the 27th:
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT. WE HAVE CONTACTED EVERYONE. THE MEDIA, OPRAH, DR. PHIL, ALL TALK SHOWS, COUNTY SHERIFFS, THE STATE CAPITOL, WE’VE MADE SHIRTS, WEBSITES, OVER 20 CPS REPORTS FROM PROFESSIONALS AND MOMS HAVE MADE, JOHN WALSH FROM AMERICAS MOST WANTED, AND THE LIST GOES ON. WE JUST STARTED THIS CRUSADE ONLY 1 MONTH AGO. THE MOTHER WAS DOING IT ON HER OWN. NOW ALL OF HER FRIENDS AND FAMILY HAVE SEEN THE VIDEO AND ARE FIGHTING WITH HER. SHE WAS PRETTY SILENT ABOUT IT FOR TOO LONG. VICTIMS USUALLY KEEP THINGS LIKE THIS A SECRET, BECAUSE IT IS SOMETHING THEY WISH WOULD JUST GO AWAY AND THEY DONT WANT THE SCRUTINY TO HAPPEN TO THEIR CHILDREN FROM PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE. HER EFFORTS ALONE WERE NOT ENOUGH, NOW ITS ALL OF US. WE HAVE SEEN PROGRESS. ON HER COURT DATE 1 WEEK AGO, SHE DID GET A GAG ORDER NOT TO EXPOSE HIM FROM HIS LAWYERS CHARGE, BUT SEOM GOOD DID COME OUT OF THE COURT DATE. A NEW JUDGE WAS APPOINTED TO THE CASE. THIS IS GOOD, BECAUSE THE LASTJUDGE THAT SAID SHE WAS DELUSIONAL WAS THE HUSBAND OF THE ABUSERS LAWYER. CRAZY, BUT TRUE. ANOTHER GOOD THING, PEOPLE ARE HELPING. WE DID GET A RESPONSE FROM A TALK SHOW, BUT NOT THE KIND OF TALK SHOW THAT WOULD HELP HER. THE TALK SHOW WAS CALLED “STEVEO” THE BODYGUARD OF THE JERRY SPRINGER SHOWS NEW TALKSHOW. WE’VE DECLINED. THIS WOULD DO MORE HARM THAN GOOD FOR THE MOTHERS CREDIBILITY. FOR NOW, WE WILL STILL KEEP CALLING, EMAILING, AND EXPOSING AS MUCH AS WE CAN. WE HAVE FOUND 4 FORENSIC PSYCHOLOGISTS CONTACT INFO WITHIN THIS REGION TODAY. WE WILL FOLLOW UP AND PRAY THAT SOMEHOW WE CAN HELP HER. I NEVER KNEW HOW HARD IT WAS TO FIND THE PEOPLE YOU NEED FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS UNTIL THIS HAPPENED. THE ONLY THING I CAN EVER TELL TO THE MOTHER IS, “HAND IN THERE” BECAUSE I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THIS MUST FEEL LIKE. TO BE ABLE TO HOLD BACK AND NOT HURT HIM IS CONTROL BEYOND MY OWN. THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING AND LISTENING. IT MEANS A LOT.
Karen – I went to the other site you posted – looks like more people at that site are trying to do the same thing and want to help this child but they’re asking the same questions…. without a last name, a case number, etc., we can’t write any officials, we can’t complain to LE or anything. Has anyone else emailed this Connie? If not, I will!
I have no clue wahts up but if a kid is being sexually assaulted then someone needs to call the police and child services.
Her email should have a place of origin from it and well police tekkies can finger out where its from.
Karen – do you have a different email address for Connie other than the one posted on the website? I noticed there is no phone or fax number on the website….just the email address. Is that the only one you have?
Pickles – I already called the police, Papa is doing an investigation, Spacely is doing lots of checking too. We’re trying to determine if this is a legit case of abuse or someone just wanting people to send money – money scam. There is something a bit fishy about this but if it IS legit we want to help.
Nay Nay was suicidal cus she didnt have NO CRACK PIPE to SUCK ON!
Jan is working on it too
Hi, ALL!
If you have not seen it, please read comment # 165 on the petition site below BEFORE you sign it or do anything else besides continue to research to see if this is true or not.
“Help save Aaliyah” petition!
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/help-save-aaliyah
Right arm….sounds like I can sit this one back and go disquise myself as that author Stone in my writing clothes and update huckab*tch
Nice work you guys.
That makes me sad .
Can I take off this eye patch and hook now?
Where is C~A what the heck…..and Beast?
Butters….TLB!
I supposen so…
Spacely!!!!!!!!!!!
I have emailed Connie and I am waiting to hear from her. Keep up the good work everyone. I am proud of all of you for your efforts to help if indeed this is not a hoax this little girl needs help.
Thank you all!
It’s funny that they say there was a court date a week ago, but the only thing in the system is for back in March…
…can she tell us what County the court proceedings are in???
Hey Mom!!
Pickles!!!!
Is it sad? 🙁
Always the children….thats what cops say is the hardest part of a job is when children are involved!
Spacely, the only thing she has said is that it is in Placer County, Auburn, CA
What is this ladies last name?
M2C – hmmm…weird comment on that petition page…that person seems to have a personal involvement…
Did this woman give you a last name for herself? Whats her email address you need to forward that to the police department in whatever county she is in…..Does she contact you regularly?
Has anyone seen this video?
Jules, she has only emailed me from that email. I used that “contact us” on aaliyah’s site and she emailed me back.
Have you had anymore contact with this woman?
Karen,
I checked Placer County Court Records and the only thing coming up is the March date for a child support hearing…
Although it is possible someone else with the same name lives in the county and is also involved in court proceedings about child support, it seems like too big a coincidence.
I had thought perhaps she lived in that county, but the real court proceedings were in his county…but maybe they are both in Placer…but she made some comment in one of her postings about how Placer is no better than somewhere else…
Pickles, scroll way up,
all the names and police stuff is up there, Jules called the cops, they say they have no idea about this case, started getting calls about it a couple of days ago, and are investigating…
Hi Pickles!!! sorry I just saw where ya said hi to me LOL
The video is on the site…and youtube…
Pickles….check your e-mail
Papa eye gohs bak tew yew ohn dat dir qweshin yewz hadn fir mah!
I dont know I just watched that video Papa did you say its professional?
Yes, Spacely; That is a weird comment on the petition site. Not sure what to make of it other than add it to the list of ??? we have about this situation. Thanks so much for all you are doing to help.
Is there no contact on that just a donation drop?
I’m sorry you guys, I was cooking dinner. Um, ok….no, she didn’t give me a last name. She said that she couldn’t because of the court proceedings and the gag order that is in place. I have spoken with her ever since I got this video, Monday. I am waiting for her to contact me right now. If you can give me your emails, I can forward the messages I have received. The first two are just too big to paste and copy here.
Has the child said this to the authorities…they have specialist who will sit with a child and work with them to get to the truth.
I dont know….
I went to that site I dont know I watched the vid…I hope its not real wheres the sound..or does that go along with the break the silence thing….slogan?
Pickles….My guy says that it appears to him to be professionally made. I know I don’t have night vision eqpt. and the skills to post a synchronized script. I don’t know anything about this type of thing. I’m going to rely 100 percent on what he says.
He definitely had a point that nowhere in the video could you see the child’s mouth speaking the words. I don’t know.
I’m not committing to anything until he tells me the facts he can determine.
Aye Papa! 😉
Karen CCC…..you have Jan’s e-mail in her response earlier today. She can get in touch with all of us if need be.
I am on the fence its good to help incase its legit but…I am on the fence…….THE FENCE!
Uh Spacely…. we quit being pirates HOURS ago….you’re suppose to be wearing your P.I. costume now! KEEP UP LAD!
Yupe.
He knows I like the pirate costume Jules so he kept it on till I got back! LOL….
I has to jet soon…..I am glad that everyone is helping IF this is legit this child needs help. I dont know…If there is anything I can do dont hesitate to ask…Ya.
Karen…. you can always find us here too…. there’s always SOMEONE here….. you just have to learn to follow the white rabbit when we change articles! It’s actually a Pickle that we follow through the rabbit hole though! Actually, a red-headed Pickle who talks like a Cajun, dresses like a pirate, moonlights as a writer and cracks a mean whip! 😆
JULES LMAO!!! Dahs reyt dir! Whars mah Papa?
Pickles – to heck with the pirate costumes! I’m here for the PLANKS! 😆
Time for me to call it a day – don’t forget Maggot Doc Dump tomorrow!
Terisa, Yes, it’s a horrible crime to do to a child…I just hope it’s a hoax…much easier to deal with, I would think.
Gnite Jules…sweet PLANK dreams!
Doc dump!
Kim….I hope its a farse too…maybe someone is hard up on cash and insane with creating ideas!
Jules Dreaming…. *Oh Johnny, what a BIG plank you have!* 😆 Nite Picks! ♥♥
Pickles….Check your e-mail please
KAREN can the Mom demand thru the Courts – (and lawyer) that the child be examined by a Psychiatrist – someone that has extensive experience with sexual abuse — and documented? That baby is so frightened and abused – in many ways. Something has to be done.
WHO WAS THAT JUDGE? Glad a new one is appointment but HE SHOULD BE EXPOSED just as the Pedophile will be. The Grandparents approve??
It IS SOUL MURDER.
Papa, I will send the emails to Jan and I’ll ask her to forward them to you.
Spacely, at the top of that petition it says it is sponsored by “tanya nelson” which is highlighted. I would like to know who sponsored that petition – presumably she knows for a FACT this is true. If not it was very irresponsible of her to sponsor it.
Anyway when I clicked on her name it took me to a screen to sign up for that Care 2 web site (where the petition is) and I am an internet chicken. I did not sign up. But that could be a lead worth checking up on – if someone has more knowledge, computer savvy and nerve than I do.
Heart, I don’t know ANYTHING about the law….she says somewhere that she had a psychologist or psychiatrist but something happened to where she doesn’t have one now. You see, if I was the mother, no judge, lawyer or any law would make me go to the internet to find help. I am so hoping it’s a hoax, but I’m not. I will be so angry that someone used me! But it will NEVER deter me to try to help anyone else. All I can say is that I know I will be able to sleep tonight because I am not doing this alone now.
Hey ya’all,
I have been following the Emma Barker story since March on my blog. Stacey barker seems to be a KC wanna be but isn’t as accomplished a story-teller….unfortunately Emma is just a dead as Caylee.
Just click on my name and it should be the 3rd entry down for the most recent updates. There is a link in that story to light a candle for Emma and to the original story.
any questions just ask.
I wonder what would be worse…a thong infection or swine flu, any thoughts?
Heart, please don’t get too upset yet. How are you by the way? We don’t know if this story is true or not. Or maybe some parts are and some aren’t. Thank heavens for our brave and clever friends – Spacely, LLP and Jan and Simon (and others) who are helping to research this to find out.
At the worst it is what it appears to be – a horrible crime against a child and a travesty of justice.
At the least it is abuse of a child (making/publicizing that video/using it to obtain funds) and a fraud.
So I’m pretty sure that something will come of this. We just don’t know what yet.
I know that if it’s true everyone here at BNN will do everything they can to help! And if it’s not true, if it’s a scam I hope we all do everything we can to come down hard on the con-artist whoever it may be. Because we may seem to be “easy” targets of evil scumsucking a-tards – only because we love children and want to help them. So either way as far as I’m concerned someone is going down for this.
For hurting a child or for using a child for personal profit.
Heart it may NOT BE LEGIT ok…..I dont believe it one bit to tell you the truth.
Papa eyez goht daht emale ahn sehn wohn bak aht cha ~~
I love children you all know that but I dont buy this video I think its a farse I think the silence the abuse and the silent video are a scam…I dont believe it and I will adimit if I am wrong but I dont buy it…
JAN DO NOT FORWARD ME ANYTHING PLEASE
Im not trying to be confontational but I dont want to be part of this im sorry!
Kim its a toss between swine flu and the thong skootch! LOL
Seems to me if this was a real thing the child would of been allowed to speak to a trained professional at child services thats like procedure for sex abuse cases….
Is NG on?
Pickles, I don’t know why you can’t hear the video, but I heard the whole thing.
HOW IS THIS GOING TO SAVE THIS CHILD???
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I really don’t care about the donation part, I told her I wasn’t going to send any money. She was fine with that.
I dont know its all so much I dont know. I have sent an email asking some questions but im ont sending these ppl money I dont believe for one minute a two year old is going to stick a toothbrush up her vagina like what that woman is claiming.
Im sorry Karen….I just dont believe this woman.
Wow I started reading this thread and folks were asking questions about Emma so I posted about blogging her case….went back up the thread and picked up where I left off.
OMG! I have not watched that video yet, I decided to read all the way down first. I think I will wait until it is determined to be real. I hope it’s fake, but yes these things do happen and yes children do fall through the cracks.
If this if fake I hope whoever put this together is hung by their worm or their yayas.
I hope you are right, I really do. And you don’t have to apologize. I totally understand. I guess why I believe it is because of another case I am following, it has the same type of pay pal thing going on there too. But I WAS talking to the woman that was involved in the case. She didn’t like that I was with her, but against her at the same time. So now, I cannot even get on the forum.
I am not one who matters in this…..at all…I believe it to be fake…but if its not im sorry…please just ignore me…
Karen the reason you cant get on her forum is cus you arent buyin her lie…like cindy anthony if you dont agree she turns on YOU!
Like she makes octomom look decent…
Pickles….look at my post @ 10:51 this morning after T.J.’s post. Do you know the answer to this ???
You know now that i think about it I think I heard about this last year…some what was it….
Papa I dont know that answer but I can get it for you in the morning…Id imagine that the SO went thru the bail bonds company with his own money or whatever…but give me till the mornin
Otay mah Papa?
Well, what I think it really was, Pickles, is that a little girl was beaten to death and sexually assaulted by her step-father. The mother was convicted of enabling abuse and sentenced 27 years to prison. The lady that is helping her try to get a new trial and I chatted a long time about it. I was all for getting a new trial for her, but then a different lady emailed me directly with other information regarding the paternal side of the family. I really don’t know what to believe, but I told the lady helping the mother that I did believe the mother should be in jail, but maybe not for 27 years. That’s the last we spoke.
Eyhl ahskn T J ihn duh morhn.! Aww reyt Papa?
O.K. Thanks
What so is the kid dead or alive? Wait you lost me.
I have to get my writing clothes on soon so when YOU see the name STONE thats me k
She is dead. She was two years old.
The girl in the video is dead?
The girl Aylella is dead from the video????
No, LOL, I’m sorry I lost you, I meant the other case. Her name is Kelsey. This one we are talking about here, here name is Aaliyah. But I don’t know anything about her, not really.
Wait…im lost the girl from the video is dead the video that we all watched?
No, my message from 6:21, read that
I got it I get confused easy just ask Papa
: )
Pickles….Have to ask you….what are your Stone writing clothes and what do they look like ??? (as Papa reaches for a tissue to wipe the drool)
OMG – I AM LOST! 😯
here is what I said: I was talking about a different case. As to why I believe Aaliyah’s.
I’m sorry, I was going to type what I said over again, but didn’t feel like it. There should be that “quote” thingy here.
PAPA – would ya like a “bib”…got a few spares! 😉
Don’t know yet C~A….she’s apparantly getting dressed now in her Stone writing clothes…see her post @ 6:17
papa – I thinks ya better be prepared anyhow! ( tosses a bib down to florida)
so big document dump tomorrow …I really hope we get toxi tests back tomorrow….what you think papa? and bone marrow tests.??? any ideas what kind of lab reports will be released other then these ones..ARE THEY KEEPIN THAT GOOD STUFF TO THEMSELVES…ARE THEY POSITIVE FOR DRUGS OR NOT???
OOO C~A I hope so every time we have a doc dump we always wonder about it…. HOPEFULLY they will release it this time!
They can’t really keep anything to themselves, but I would imagine they could “pace” the release to keep the best for last, I don’t really know. What I’m most anxious to see is whatever NG was talking about in regards to Amscott survelliance photos/video of her driving a car into the lot was supposed to have been out of gas.
Hey Papa, that Connie just emailed me again. Should I direct her here?
C~A – I wish they would release the good stuff now too, and Bozo would realize why the DP is on the table 100%. It’s not for intimidation, it’s not “to force me to admit to something I didn’t do” – It’s to prove premeditated murder!
Gatorade bottle & syringe, white residue (fingers crossed)
Get a good night’s sleep everyone! HUNDREDS of pages of documents coming tomorrow! We have our homework cut out for us!
I know you know but here’s the report from wftv:
” Eyewitness News has learned that the State Attorney’s Office is expected to release hundreds of pages of documents Friday in the case against Casey Anthony.
The investigative documents will include law enforcement interviews with witnesses and lab reports”
Karen CCC….I’m not sure. I’m not going to take a position one way or the other until I know more about it. There’s too many unanswered questions at this point. Unless she could answer some of those questions, such as a name, case number or something to verify this situation. My guy is looking into it, but, the L.E. for that town was called today by one of our members, and the contact in CA didn’t know anything other than receiving recent calls and e-mails asking the same questions we are.
As horrible as this video is, I am perplexed as how courts, judges, children’s services, etc. have all seemingly ignored this situation. It is hard for me to completely buy that the father has that much influence. I have a problem believing that the President of The United States would have enough influence to hush up this kind of horror.
I’m not doing anything one way or the other until I know the facts.
Ok.
Hey just a thinking if your so grand and over us then why dont you post your real name and not hide behind a false ident…the rest of us are!
I finally got a chance to watch the whole video.
I think it is a from a security camera with night vision – readily available for under $200 with sound recording.
However, the sound does not really seem to sync with the video and there is the whole thing about not being able to see her mouth move. So, I think there is a good chance the whole thing was dubbed over and perhaps there was never any sound from the security cam – as most don’t have sound.
Just a thinking f*ck you none of these ppl are my monkeys so go blo a goat!
I cant stand that sh*t ppl saying im the leader and these ppl are my monkeys thats the biggest load of BS I come across in a long time and trust me I know bs…so go get BENT SOMEWHERE ELSE…
YA ALL THE GOOD BLOGGERS ARE GONE…FLUCK YOU DUDE….There are tons of good ppl here YOUR NOT ONE OF THEM thats why you dont see that Just a thinking blogger…YOUR NOT ONE OF THE GOOD PPL HERE how dare you trash anyone on this blog by saying all the good bloggers left…..You should do the same…go on with the “good bloggers” go have a good time with them!
My pet monkeys you smokin crak today I mean no one here is my or Jan’s pet monkey…thats a load of SHITE for real….bs I am offended by that…..No one here is anyones pet monkey…Cept I am Tori’s dog. Her towels taste good….whatever JATB please NO dont go…whatever nice exit….mystery person.
Aww dont let them jerks ruffle your dandruff pickles that just gives them idiots what they want:(
OK OK I took care of it… don’t let them get you all started! see my post added to Just a thinking blogger’s post
Jan it bugs me NO ONE IS MY MONKEY I AN NO LEADER…..Im a pickle~
They ruffled more then my dandruff I hate when ppl say that about us.
don’t let it bug you, they really aren’t worth it
How dare you trash so many good hearted people?? I am glad to be rid of you and the pond scum that have been on this blog…You cant even man up or woman up whatever to post under your real name! How big of you! Go ahead and leave I doubt I will miss you!
So many people on here that bring their hearts,great fun and insight. So fluck you!
Yeah but they dont even have the balls to use their own id
TOM foolery!
Jan you know what we call multiple posters around here…. 😉
DUDE!!!!!
TLBxxx
Butters did you see the pic of the look a like Tupac sent out cus he got caught..
Capy you here?
Yes! Omg that was cah-ray-zay!
Whoever JATB was had monkeys in there butt for real!
CAPY 2:33 thank you for being a good friend.
I read about Stalkers, Sociopaths, etc. Said if babies don’t get WHAT they need, WHEN they NEED IT (cuddling, holding, feeding, talking, smiles) there is a certain part of the brain that does NOT develop and they are set for life… being the way they are. I wonder if maggot fits into that category? They cannot be cured/fixed then.
CAPY want my email address from Jan? Jan can you please give it to CAPY if she wants it? Thanks. Good radio show with Denny,TJ Hart and you and Simon, Jan. Really good.
MY moneys on “pissed off pickles!” anyone wanna’ take just stinkin’ thinkin’? Kick some Blinkin’ outa’ stinkin tthinkin’ er’ sompin like dat!
Butters that was two different ppl for real…..
I am watching that video right now, you can’t even see the child’s face. I see her feet, and they are faced down, wich means she is faced down on the floor or bed or whatever she is laying on.
Kim your funny! 🙂 I dont mean to get mad but they use that against me and its stupid….Everyone here is my I look up to them.!! Its not like that….drama! Arggghhh matey..thats scurvie rat is gone off this YACHT!!
Kim I thought you said my monkey is on pissed of pickles.
KIM et al …
There is this GREAT SITE http://www.snopes.com that tell us if something is real or a hoax. They have no dog in the fight, just the truth like Consumer’s Reports.
What would this video be called? Usually you type in it’s TITLE to check it out. Maybe Worm or something?? I will try to go there. They most always tell people WHAT is a hoax!! Save that site, it’s GREAT.
http://www.snopes.com
I that video….I dont know…..something aint right…..I just……ya.
Oooh a site that verifies videos? Thats handy.
And everytime she picks her head up, the blanket is in the way of her mouth.
Patti…ruffle my dandruff!! LOVE IT!
I dont know….im dont know.
Heart, I think it was Spacely that said it was on Youtube…..maybe he knows the name of it
Its disgusting its a horrible thing to even have on a website…whoever is doing this is weird….gets off on it or something…cus why have that for the world to see on a website..it just dont sit right with me.
Space are you here??? Arghh ahoy Space!!
I agree with you, Pickles….I just want to know either way. It’s driving me nuts.
Just a thinkin BOOGER? I didn’t know boogers cewd thunk????? Jack~ass obviously don’t!
BNN HAS THE BEST PEOPLE IN THE WORLD IN CAYLEES’ CORNER…
I just think that for someone who needs help she gont leave much background info just believe my story and send me money…..
C~A *knucks* sapponin!! My lady!! ♥
You believe the video C~A of the girl being molested?
Its called Daddys worm or some sh*t..
Um looked up on snopes and found nothing..
I heard about this last year…or last summer it was…I remember hearing about this…
I dont know Butters…I just am not getting involved in this one. I mean if it turns out proof to life that its legit….then I will but until then….no spank you.
I saw the video..no way i could catch up on all the readin…I dunno…can ya alter a voice to sound like a child..? The woman crying sounded real though! 😯
Well, now i am really insulted. I am nobody’s pet monkey. I am my own monkey. I make a monkey of myself all the time. Ask anyone. And like all monkeys everywhere – when they’re mad – I’m throwing poop at you – Just A Thinking Booger!
PS Fellow BNNers:
Does this mean we can’t get a little monkey and a parrot for our pirate ship? All pirates have them and I kinda counted on it. (We can put a diaper on the monkey.) They’re cute and funny. But “boogers” (the “thinking” type or not) are NOT fun or funny.
Its sick to even be on display on the net someone should turn that woman in for having that online…its disgusting and wrong to have that video online….Its degrading and invading that childs life whoever that child is being used in that video and her having that up on her site seems to be imoral in my opinion
C~A ……I hope its not real.
I painted my nails foxy hot pink today!! Fir mah Papa!
laa dee daa dee wee likes to party wee dont cause trouble and we dont bothah nobody
bla blah blah blah blah blahb.
You know PICKS I thought I heard about this video before … somehow … somewhere too. Or was it a similar slightly different one??
I tried different things too on http://www.snopes.com and couldn’t find anything, either way. I think we can reach Snopes … “contact”. I might try that.
Better not mess with BNN!! All the good ones have gone? Really? If I were a Pedophile I wouldn’t like BNN at all. Maybe they are the fly bys that hit and run … hmm. What axe do they have to grind… unless maybe they are either an Anthony or a Pedophile??
I have always wondered if the DRAMA QUEEN maggot ever molested Caylee. Seemed it was never ever enough for maggot, always PUSHING the envelope for bigger better thrills. Her father even said something like that during one of his interviews with a Detective – always over the top, or on the edge or something like that?
Karen I’ll look on youtube then get the name to check it out on SNOPES if I can find it.
I hope its not real either and LE gets involved and gets to the bottom of this… it feels not right.
I dont think its real…I just dont I heard about this video a long time ago last year
Now that Stone is finally here….could you please answer my question from 6:26 that Pickles was avoiding ??
Had supper to do, etc. I left before “the post”, so I am not a monkey!
Thank you Heart, I’ll have Jan forward my e-mail to you or vice versa.
PICKLES – 7:26 , I’m here now, off and on.
(I hope it’s a pirate costume !!)
Dahs ah seacrt Papa! Ownly Stone and Pickles kno’s!
Its a wench costume!
O.K. (as Papa dejectedly stumbles away)
Its a comenly winch costume…Oldn time hooker!
Papa read my 7:59post !
Imma go off line for now… some drama happening … best friend got cheated on by my best guy friend and its a mess.. so I am little moody..
See ya’ll tomorrow for doc dump day! 🙂
Wahrs mah Papa??
Laters Butters…rip his head off.
OOOOOOOOHHHHH….ah jes seen thet wanch custum.
Hope Butters doesn’t get too upset and rest up for the Big Test tomorrow.
Documents, Butter Test.
JAN, if you read this. Remember in school May 1st was a big day. May Day. May Pole Dance, May Day Baskets.
(Pickles, the pole dance is not the one at Fusion – ha)
Colored streamers hung on a pole and two people going in opposite directions, in and out, and weave them. I don’t think they do that anymore.
Ah new yewd leykn hit Papa!
The only pole dance I know is the one at Fusions. LOL.
Wrote to Snopes. Form “letter” came back will try to answer as many as they can, they get SO many.
Also have a friend who has his company – selling sound, recording, etc. equipment and his Dad before him for over 50 years. Asking him about the video. It IS on http://www.youtube.com (thanks SPACELY and KAREN?), called “Daddy’s Worm.”
Also asked a retired TV Producer friend of mine, who lives in Canada if he thinks it is real.
Will give you the results … I would like to get to the bottom of this, soooo upsetting.
CAPY – great! Heard Caregivers should communicate with each other. Helps. I had no idea what it was like – till I became one. The worst thing they said is if you are older and LIVE in the house – not just do it occasionally, OR if you are a younger person.
Its called Daddys worm thats not right fuGG that that is a violation to that child someone needs to call the police on whoever that is.
Heart – We’ll chat!
We can theorize what Pickles is going to do with those hot pink toenails and winch outfit! Ha. Is she going to wear the wig too?
Eyz ahnt needln no wihg…eyz gohts lown curly rehd winch har.
I think that video is a violation of that childs rights and privacy for whoever that is to have it up..I think that whoever is running that youtube vid should be investigated
I am going to email YOU Tube and ask them if they normly tolerate that type of video.
Stone – You gotta point. Even if it is true, maybe it shouldn’t have been on the internet. She could have described some of the abuse and asked for help. Very fishy, indeed.
Unless she was desparate. I don’t know. Papa will find out.
I wonder if that video with the audio would qualify as child pornography? If so whoever posted it could really get in trouble.
Anyone know where to report child pornography found on the web? At least it’s another angle to use to track this down.
Its a violation of that childs rights and privacy to have that online…I dont think its legal thats child molestation and pornography IF its legit
Dead azz dizco!
I dont need to know I know its fake I remember this vid a long time ago. Its sik that you tube allows that crap on there site.
BUTTERS…FIRST MORNIN PIDDLE EH! IT’S A BOY!
Stone…..Yew din tale muh bot thet thar hut pank to nele parlesh…..mmmmmm…mmmmmuh
ITS A GIRL!
Papa eyiz duhn payntd mah neles hut pank
Wal thet thar Capy sed yu ded hat 8:22….dad gum hit….ahs gwn ta bed…Good Night All
Pickles….Your Cajun is getting waaaay to hard to figure out!! 🙂
Pickles – Did you ever go to a Renaissance Faire? You’d probably have fun dressing up. And, they do have wenches there.
Goooood food.
I payntd mah neles far ya Papa!!
Foxy hawt pank!
Gnite mah Papa!! Sweet dreams!
I would love to go!
mb – they have invented their own language!
I took that disquise off now…back to the pickle….done writing.
MissChristina would you please come to the office this her pickle is stuck under your stone! LOL LMAO ONE IN 3 YO! NOT THREE DIFFERENT!! LMAO FOOLS
Ihs nawt nuffn tew har tew uhnstnd ihs jussn rehdnekn tawk.
Capy..aw tink de haf aw cybr luvv cunekshun goun on herr.
Oh…I can’t do it like they do! HA!
Good night Miss rehdnekn and mb if you are still here. Let’s get ready for doc dumps and thinkin caps tomorrow.
OTAY Capy good night!!! DOC DUMP Its what we live for!
Nite Capy and Pickles!
I got to jet to!! See you all for the sunrise!!!
Adios
Good nite you guys!
Heart and anyone else wanting to research the video…
It is on YouTube.
The easiest way to get there is to go to the webpage where you first watched it. Double click the video and it should open up the YouTube page. That video is really a link to the post at YouTube.
If you are trying to have someone else look at it, I would advise you send them to this blog – this article – and have them start reading the comments from early today…I don’t remember exactly where it started. But there is a lot of good info on this blog about it and the links to many of the pages.
Good Night, Pickles!!!
Can I take off this eye patch and hook now?
is anyone still on? Look what I just found! It names the father and the judge:
I am writing to you today on behalf of Connie Bedwell, the mother of Aaliyah Bedwell. Aaliyah is a 2 1/2 year old child who is in desperate need of intervention by local authorities. These authorities (judge, police and CPS) are being manipulated and quite frankly ignoring her plight. I urge you to visit this website set up by friends and family of Connie and Aaliyah to protect and save her.
http://www.mspslinks.com/MDFodHRwOi8vdyd3d3LnNhdmVhYWxpeWFoLmNvbQ==
Despite this mother’s attempts to protect her daughter, the courts have placed this poor baby in the hands of her abuser and put a gag order on the mother to prevent her from further pleading for help.
PLEASE – view the video on the website to see and understand exactly what is going on. The abusers name is Dustin David Thompson and the court case number is SDR-27409. The judge was Jeffery Penny. On May 6th it will soon be Francis Kearney.
I apologize for the inaccuracy of the address information above, but feel the urgency of this matter requires desperate and immediate action. Connie is in Auburn CA in Placer County. Her email address is cjasbedwell@yahoo.com.
I found out about this case through http://www.mspslinks.com/MDFodHRwOi8vdyd3d3LmNoaWxkcHJvdGVjdGlvbmNvbW11bml0eS5jb20= , I have membership with as a concerned American citizen hoping to protect innocent children from this type of fate suffered by so many children abused and murdered each year. I do this in the name of thousands and their memory. As the voices of innocent children cry out for help and justice – I implore you – Please look into this case and SAVE this child! One more night of her biological father subjecting her to this abuse is not acceptable anymore.
Very Sincerely,
Joey Tillman
Founder of The Child Protection Community
http://www.mspslinks.com/MDFodHRwOi8vdyd3d3LkNoaWxkUHJvdGVjdGlvbkNvbW11bml0eS5jb20=
hi everyone, Or has everyone left.
Connie Bedwell appears to be the name of the mother of the child in the video and says she is in Placer County, CA.
Connie Bedwell in Placer County CA appears to have had court appearance on March 25, 2009 for child support according to the court records:
25-MAR-2009 0023860 R BEDWELL CONNIE J PLACER COU CHILD SUPPORT SERV NT SUP JUDG
In an amazing coincidence, the video was posted on You Tube on March 25, 2009 according to the You Tube records, video was posted by a user named endpedophilia who joined that day:
endpedophilia
Joined: March 25, 2009
Spacely, did you see what I just posted? According to this gentleman, it is real and it names the judge and the abuser! AND THE COURT #!
Are you using your superpowers right now? Cuz I am going NUTS!!!! Please respond!
Karen and Spacely, what are you two talking about? I just got here a few min. ago, and I do not know what you two are talking about
Karen,
I cannot see what you posted.
I am betting it was a link.
It got moderated, so won’t show up for a while.
If you want to post a link, do it with out the http : // www .
However, I do not doubt there really is a case.
It seems she posted the video right after a child support hearing.
DM,
Karen found a video of a possible child sex offense and we have been trying to figure out if it is for real all day.
Hello!!!!! Aren’t you reading any of my posts?????????
Karen, did you read the comment that m2c posted a link to earlier today from the petition?
It seemed to be written by someone that is personally involved in this case on the other side…
Karen,
Sometimes comments get moderated and don’t show up right away…we may not be seeing all of your posts…
This is another post from a myspace child abuse prevention foundation…… I read the petition, but she also has said that it is her friends and family that is trying to help her. Did you see the post I copied and pasted from his myspace???
Well, then I’ll wait until you catch up. I’m losing my mind, cuz I don’t know how to go about researching this!
Karen, I can’t see it, but I think I just found the same site:
Joey Tillman
Founder of The Child Protection Community
http://www.ChildProtectionCommunity.com
I am checking out the site now.
Here is my problem…the Caylee and Haleigh and Sandra cases have ruined my ability to trust a lot of these kind of people because we on this blog have learned that a Foundation or a Charity or a Non-Profit seems to be a perfect vehicle for money shenanigans including fraud and tax evasion.
This site says it is all non-profit.
I am really interested in what Papa and Jan find.
I am going to bed now, hit this problem again tomorrow.
Night everyone…
I know everyone is gone, but I just have to say this Spacely, I understand your skepticism. I guess that’s people’s different personalities as well. I trust first, get f’d over, still trust, get f’d over….etc…I think you can guess what I’m getting at….I never stop trusting when it comes to a child being hurt. I will believe it EVERY time. Good night, and thanks for all your help.
SPACE thanks for all you do.
I am waiting for answers from friends.
One wrote back and said for sure, a voice-over. They wondered if the person tallking to the child was a Therapist.
Connie BEDWELL the mother. Bed well? Funny name… for a Pedophile? HIS last name? She is married?
Been A Hard Day’s Night …
About the video to save the child, has anyone contacted the Roseville, CA police dept – where the P.O. Box is located to send donations? I would think thats a good place to start. Using a P.O. Box to pull a scam is a federal offense. IP/email/domains are all trackable, this needs to be turned over to LE. If it’s legit these people will have no problem giving their info to the law for help.
According to other forums…..
http://www.diaperswappers.com/forum/showthread.php?s=eb55ed7e705584dfce1b1e203c0deff0&t=732131&page=10
The abusers name is XXXXXXXX and the court case number is SDR-27409. The judge was Jeffery Penney. On May 6th it will soon be Francis Kearney.
Wishes I could steal pickles 3 hrs in PST away from her and go back to bed….
Why can’t these reporters have these docs up B4 I go to work????
LAB REPORTS LAB REPORTS LAB REPORTS…..
coffee C~A ?
g’morn
Good Morning Nana
G’Morn AnneA oh sry I was away from the puter
I wanted to ask BOMB SHELL C~A something too
AnneA, Goodmorning. (Goodmorning All) Hey, AnneA, did you read my post last night about the name of the abuser and the court#?
morin all, hope you all had agood night. tired to go on yesteerday, was with family. got caught up this am. i did not watch that video. makes my tummy hurt, hope this is one money hungry sick prev. i am glad my kids r grown. now have to worry about grandkids. ah hell, you have to worry about all kids. sick,
bring on the doc dump, hope it is good.
Karen if you come back please please know I am absolutely sure this video has merit. The things that child says are the kind of things no one just wanting money would know to say.
NOW LET ME ADD THIS:
I can’t say that Aalyiah is still being abused. I can’t swear that some scum bag ISN’T using this video to scam people out of their money I don’t know exactly what many of the facts are at this point. I will admit there is a lot I don’t know but based on what I do know, I am NOT ready to ignore it.
WHAT ELSE I DO KNOW IS:
Some of the attitudes expressed in the comments made to Karen are EXACTLY what allows men to keep doing this and keep getting away with it.
I do know, while reading some of the comments posted by the people who actively advocate for children, everytime they log on to this site.
I could almost hear my own heart breaking.
There are far to many comments made to remember who said what. The fact that it WAS said is what is important.
I have not been posting on this site long. I do not understand or get involved in all the inside jokes. I was broken when I first found this site. As I have stated before, I am 58 years old. My crusade for children started when I was 18 years old. I would have started at 17 if I could have. At 10, at 7, at 5, hell I would have been battling this before I could walk, had I been able to do it. There was no way I could fight back then. I was myself a child, helpless and alone.
I am now grown, I have a voice and I am going to use it. I have dedicated 40 years to this cause. I have not spent all this time doing this for the lack of something to do.
Hey Karen, goodmorning Lockwood. My soapbox just keeps jumping under my feet, sorry.
Lockwood, I understand why you hope this is NOT for real. Nobody wants to believe this stuff happens. The video is INDEED real. My hope is that some scum hasn’t gotten hold of it and is trying to use it for personal financial gain. If that is what has happened, I am outraged. Everytime ANYONE claims sexual abuse against a child and its NOT true, it makes it harder to convince people when it is true. It un-does progress that has been made over the last few decades.
annea you and your soap box r fine. how have yo been doing? i just could not bring myself to watch that video. retgardless, someone needs to put a stop to these idots. wether iit is real or cut and copy,it sounds like porno to me. why can’t peeople leave children alone. it want to do sick stuff then keep it adult and leave these children out of this. when i was working on my social degree hated the peds rotations. everyone are suppose to keep kids safe.
Lockwood no hon its not presented as porno. It is a mother and her sister taping a little girl talking about what the child’s father did to her.
KarenCCC, you said,in April 30th, 2009 at 10:29 pm “I know everyone is gone, but I just have to say this Spacely, I understand your skepticism. I guess that’s people’s different personalities as well. I trust first, get f’d over, still trust, get f’d over….etc…I think you can guess what I’m getting at….I never stop trusting when it comes to a child being hurt. I will believe it EVERY time. Good night, and thanks for all your help.”
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Maybe I am misreading what you said but in this situation “trusting first and getting “f’d over” would seem to be blindly sending money to whoever this person is. What good does that do?
How is trying to find out the truth about this situation a negative thing? Spacely and others who are helping to research have proven that they “trust” that this story COULD be true by spending their own time, money and resources to do a lot of work to track this down so that we can either help the child or stop the scam. How is blindly believing “better” than that?
I don’t see anything negative about it whether you call it being skeptical or “not trusting first.”
Sure, he and a lot of other people are not whipping out their check books and throwing money at this situation (yet) but if Spacely and our other researchers find out the real situation and that money is part of the answer, I’m sure everyone here will be most generous and help in the most effective ways.
Spacely and the other researchers are searching for the truth! That’s what this little child needs (if the story is true) and that’s what we need whether it is or isn’t true.
Karen are you still here. Yes I saw the contact info. Don’t get discouraged or let negative comments bother you. This crime is so foreign to people, they find it hard to believe.
I am afraid if a person is not formally educated about this or they have no life experience to draw from, they don’t understand. I always say there can’t be to many child advocates. I may be re-thining that statement. Doctors have a creed of Do No Harm, maybe people who advocate for children should follow the same creed.
my post just went to cyber space.
oh well, what do you think about them saying haleigh might still be alive? i saw a minute on jane a couple of nights ago.
m2c, I didn’t read your whole post because I wanted to get what I need to say out and understood. I was not mad at him, I was not being disrespectful, I was just stating MY PERSONALITY. I PERSONALLY don’t care how many times I have been f’d over, when it comes to a child, I will do absoutely anything to help. That was all that I was saying. Did you read his post to me? I was just replying. I said I understood him! I have not asked ANYONE to send money. As I stated yesterday about four times I told this woman that I wasn’t going to send her any money. She was FINE with that. I don’t want to stay on here if I can’t get someone to believe this is NOT a hoax. I talked with her again last night. If she was lying, why would she keep contacting me? She is in NEED of help!
Rape Crisis is advocating that LE have specialist on the payroll to handle child sexual abuse. I notice that a charge against the police has been made. It is true that if cops don’t understand this situation, they more times that not, screw up badly and in ways that keep the child in a dangerous enviroment. If we can get federal laws requiring people in LE be QUALIFIED less children will fall thru those cracks, we all know exist.
Morning AnneA and Lockwood!
AnneA – I read most of the posts I think and I can’t find ones you mean that are discouraging or negative. Can you point some out please?
I can’t imagine anyone I know on BNN being so.
AnneA, I am still here. I had to step away a minute. Thank you so much for your constant encouragement. Yesterday, I actually started to doubt the validity of all this. But now we have a name and a court number. I don’t know how to go about researching that. But I contacted Connie last night and told her I knew who she was and the abuser, she still emailed me back. I don’t think she is lying!
I believe this childs Voice could have been recorded years ago someone made it looked like it came from an Apartment or childs bed room with a hidden Camera, PUT it altogether and bam! looks like the real thing .
why cant we see some movement of the Baby or woman to prove that this is real
who hid the camera? if it was the person talking to the Baby why didn’t she take it Video) to the Police, why put it on the net ,, whats going on here ??
I really dont want to get involved with this crap so please dont respond to any of my comments regarding this new episode …
ok went back and re read. sorry, i was a little confused. i do think there is a speial place for anyone that hurts a child, a place called hell.
Nana, you have to stop watching the words when you watch the video. The baby is in the upper left hand corner, you can hardly see her. She is facing down on the bed, you can see her feet move at the bottom left hand corner. You can see her head pop up, but you cannot see her mouth. It is covered by the blanket.
AnneA, is there anyway that I can just contact you?
and… for the last time, KarenCCC post or Paste all E-mails you get from Connie so we can see what she says what do you mean she need help?
we all know chilren are being Abused by nuts, but this isn’t the way to catch them
it comes from inside the home,
if a parent suspects abuse from one another REPORT it… save the child
BTW, Connie said the video was recorded June 9, 2008 in their apartment.
Nana, for the last time? When did you ever ask me to post the emails? If you haven’t gone to her website, then do so. All the info is there
I understand, I think, KarenCCC. But I do wish you would please read my whole post @6:35 am to understand what I was trying to say.
You are trying to help the mother and child by asking us to help but not necessarily send money. If I were to say “I believe! It is true! It is not a hoax” what would you have me do? Seriously. I am not arguing, I am asking. I don’t know what to do to help.
You said, ” I don’t want to stay on here if I can’t get someone to believe this is NOT a hoax.” Well, Spacely and others are working hard to find out. I can’t think of a better way to help at this time.
KarenCCC said,in May 1st, 2009 at 6:00 am AnneA, Goodmorning. (Goodmorning All) Hey, AnneA, did you read my post last night about the name of the abuser and the court#?
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Apparently your post with this information did not come through, as I have re read all posts and can not find it. Could you please post it again or point out the time of the post so I can find it ?? I need a name, case number, or something to assist my guy in finding out the particulars.
AND ,,,,,,what did Connie do about it?? she took it to police & Police says Connie was a NUT ?
where is Connie?? tell her to log in BNN tell us the Story why are you doing it?? Im getting suspicious of you,,
hey nana and m2c. how you both doing? i wonder what time to doc dump will be today. i hope for tox reports. you can’t pooh poo away a tox report.
m2c, When I first contacted this lady through her website, I told her I would try to get her the kind of help from a lawyer or police or something. I told her I did not have any money to give her. I said that there has to be a lawyer out there that has a kind heart and all the hate I have for child molesters, abusers, killers that will help you for absolutely NOTHING, so I told her I would get on messagebaords and do all that I could do to get her help. And I know people are helping on here. And I have thanked them all, so much. But when they keep telling me it’s a hoax, I get angry.
Nana sorry I have to respond. I did see the child move at one point she was standing up. She was given another blanket.
I have talked to you before and respect you immensly. But this CRAP as you call it, is a child’s life. IF this is happening it needs to be stopped. As far as why the mother put it on the net, is a sign to me HOW DESPERATE SHE MUST BE
m2c I have read and re-read the comments. I didn’t sleep last night over this. I will admit I am extra sensitive when it comes to child sexual abuse and reactions of people hearing about it. I saw negativity in several posts. If you saw no negativity I am happy for you. It means you were never a victim of sexual assault, you never had to know what trying to make someone believe is feels like.
Anyone who does not want to get involved, by all means, don’t. I choose to do anything I can to help this mother and this little girl.
I came on this site because of Caylee, Haleigh and Adji. There is nothing I can do for any of them right now. I have sent emails, made phones calls and even sent letters to anyone who is in a position to help Haleigh and Adji. I have emailed against the Ants, hoping for justice for Caylee but the bottom line is there is nothing more that can be done for any of them. This little girl can be saved, she can be helped. Karen had addressed the whole money issue many times. She is not asking for money at all. In fact just the opposite.
I want to know the truth about Aalyeigh as well. If its a scam it needs to be exposed and if its real it needs to be stopped. Either way I feel a vested interest in this. Something needs to be done about this child or the story around her.
Nana, of course you are. She is in CA, I am in GA. I am waiting for her to respond to my last email. I told her to come here.
Papa, his name is Dustin David Thompson and the court # is SDR-27409.
Hey Lockwood, G’morning cant wait for the reports today hopeing on toxicology
KarenCCC – I’ve known most of the people on this board for a VERY long time. I think any posts that say stuff like “I don’t think it’s true” are what they are thinking WHILE waiting to learn the truth. It’s not necessarily their final decision by a long shot. Every one of these people LOVE children and would put themselves between an abuser (or a bullet) and a child in a second.
But this is a very strange situation. There is room for doubt.
As I said in a post yesterday:
“At the worst it is what it appears to be – a horrible crime against a child and a travesty of justice.
At the least it is abuse of a child (making/publicizing that video/using it to obtain funds) and a fraud.
So I’m pretty sure that something will come of this. We just don’t know what yet.”
Now I’m saying that when we know what it is we’ll know what the best way to help is and how to go about it.
I truely believe you m2c….I am just with AnneA on this….I cannot help Caylee, Sandra, Haliegh, Baby P, Riley…..but I am so nervous that this baby is not going to get help. I have been reading so many cases about child abuse and CPS (DHS). HALF of the cases where they are involved the kids dies. The other half of the cases when they aren’t involved, the kid dies. It’s always one person’s word over another. It seems to never be about the child’s voice! I am just truly, truly nervous we are not going to get her the help in time!
AnneA – I have every respect for you and what you do to help children. But please don’t claim to know anything at all about me and my experiences.
Perhaps I know the people on this board better and I am a little better able to look at what you see as “negativity” and see it as a temporary opinion about a very confusing situation. Some people are waiting to find out what is really going on. I can’t blame them.
As I asked KarenCCC just now, what would you have us do right now (other than research the situation) that would be of help?
Papa if you follow the post on Aaleigh’s website someone has posted the appropriate people to contact, like the governor Arnold and others civil servants.
As far as donating money, the Ants won’t get a penny from me. Haleigh’s case is different, sending money to Cobra is well worth the chance he can find her or find out what happened to her. She may still be in the positon of needing help.
Once a child is found dead or known dead, its out of human hands, we can NEVER help them. But if there is a chance a child is being hurt, I want to help.
People who are sending money to Cobra, have no guarantee that he will succeed in finding her but we are willing to take a chance. I am willing to help with this situation, if there is a chance this is real I will do anything in my power to save her. Money sent for any missing child is a gamble.
Morning,
Haven’t read the posts yet. I googled Haleigh and news and it showed Blogger News on the air, but when you click on it, it goes to an old article
Papa, did you get my post of the name and court #?
Hi Anna A yes I did call it crap any one with a camcorder can video anything make it look real.
yes I am certainly against anyone sexually abusing children I would cut off their testicals Penis do a lorraina Bobbit no problem… if I had the chance & wouldn’t ask for a penny
I know there are sickooos out there we have to KEEP our eye on them ,,,watch the children closely, if father has visiting rights fine if he SUSPECTED of child abuse its the MOTHERS responsibility to REPORT HIM . remove the child immediately
. but this Video must be in the hands of Police by now if its real,
ask CONNIE to get here to explain,
Im not going to spend time looking for her E-mails ….. “I want to go on a different subject,
Morning all! Waiting for the docs, they don’t mention videos but I hope we get M circling the lot 😉
As for the video, nothing we do right this second affects this child & I for one need it verified. The best thing that can be done is getting this child to safety if infact she is in a bad place, & what better than all ones who have contacted LE. If the mother couldn’t get LE to listen I am sure the ones who have reported the video have now succeeded.
I also saw nothing negative towards anyone at all, only justifiable skepticism at the situation.
What harm is there in determining if this is a real situation, what is a day to find out, is it a blue light special & I only have 2 minutes to buy?
Butters get up & pee on the stick
m2c TOUCHE You are absolutely right, I don’t know ANYTHING about you, not really.
I do know victims of sexual abuse when I meet them. They can’t pretend their victims if they are not and they can’t hide it long if they are. As there are exceptions to every rule, you are right, I don’t know your experiences you have my apology.
As far as negative comments. The reader is always the expert of how something is perceived. Based on past experience and many other things to numerous to mention. I will stand by my statement, I, ME, saw negativety.
KarenCCC you said at 7:10 am that you are nervous that “we are not going to get her the help in time!”
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What kind of help? A big gun lawyer? Funds for a big gun lawyer? The attention of higher ups in government? What is it you want us to do right now?
Karen are you still on here?
AGAIN for the record:
I, too, want to know if this story is a scam. If it is a scam it MUST be exposed, for the sake of those who are truly being abused.
Nana I made sure I had a donut this a.m. so I don’t have to drool over yours 😛
AnneA we are all concerned about missing kidnapped children found dead or alive .. we are all concerned about the persons or person responsible for these crimes
you & KarenCCC are kind of distracting people here ,, Why ? we were here to discuss Haleigh & Caylee But you two are taking the Focus off & discussing something else . the article above have you read it? then why come in here with the story about the little girl in the video ?
I think the police are aware of that situation
the focus should be about Caylee & Haleigh for now thank you ,dont respond I know I’m in trouble LOL
AnneA and KarenCCC – I am not trying to fight with you. I am trying to understand why you both seem so dissatisfied and unhappy this morning.
It seems to me that everything that can be done is being done – thanks to LLP and Spacely and Jan and Simon and others.
A few “negative” reactions which I see as “wait and see’s” are not to be worried about when so much good work is being done. But that’s just my opinion.
I’m trying to share with you my belief that help will be provided – and it will be the most appropriate and effective help.
Beth,, did you make some too? they are good?
I believe Tresia made some with her GrDaughter or was it you?
AnneA, yes, I am still here.
Nana excuse the hell out of me. I have seen everything from menstal cramps to pets discussed here. But rather then DISTRACT all you wonderful advocates for children I will be happy to leave.
I am sorry this case has not yet reached the sensationalism required to be discussed in this group!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Karen if you are still here, please let me know. I am willing to put my phone number help so we can discuss this without interruption all these WONDERFUL child advocates in here. You know especially the ones so intramental in finding Haliegh and making Caylee’s world all better again!!!!!!!!!
For those, like Pammy, worried over Swine flu, incase you missed it in Hearts♥ post last night, fresh lemon in V8, lemon flushes bacteria out of your system, so squeeze a lemon in your water or whatever once a day or more.
m2c, this is just like emails. Not hearing the tome of voice just makes it feel like I am being thought of as an irrational person. I’ll just stop posting, unless there is a direct question to me. I didn’t mean to distract from Haleigh and Caylee. I just came on yesterday looking for help from Jan And Simon. I didn’t see any “buttons” to email them directly. I didn’t mean to make any trouble here. I’ll just wait for Papa and Spacely and Jan to get back in touch with me. Thanks all, have a great day! 🙂
lol Nana not hardly, I sent my husband to the donut shop. I nearly fell out of my chair when I saw your post yesterday, I thought, & I quote ‘who in the hell makes donuts’, then Terisa came in & wanted to. I can’t bake for sh!t, my ggma & gma were so upset w/ me but I don’t have it in me. But I love baked goods, make a good cream puff & you own me til its gone!
several mispelled words in the post to Nana don’t want to offend anyone’s sensibilities.
M2C did you find those docs yet??
AnneA, I will call as soon as I can. I have a two year old….so it’s kind of hard to talk on the phone with her. She seems to only NEED me when I am on the phone. Thank you!
OH My goodness AnneA you are so touchie
I like reading your Post,
i dont like what you just said No one in this world would protect a child Like i would/
you are doing a great job
but the last story broke yesterday when KarenCCC arrived every one went in a Panic so did I, Ok I still say its In the Police Hands “so be it”
KAREN I am a rape crisis counselor and have been for years. My husband is Guardian Ad Litem for this state.
You have not caused any trouble.
I am not against finding anything out about this story, in fact my post support that. I want to know. In the meantime a child may be being hurt and it can’t be acted on to soon.
Karen I think with the contacts my husband and I have, we may can do something to help this little girl. Call me please.
I am not afraid to put my money where my mouth is.
IMO if the goal was to get help for a child being abused what better way then to have 100s of people emailing the video to LE? They should remove the Paypal buttons & put LE links instead cuz THAT is the way to help an abused child & many people here did contact LE which shows they do care.
Hi, Beth!
I’ve checked three of the main local news sites. They all posted around 8:31 am this morning that the docs have been released. But none posted them yet. wftv.com wrote:
“WFTV.com is going through the hundreds of pages and will post the latest pertinent information as soon as possible.”
So I expect the docs will be on line some time this morning.
Karen thanks I am waiting to hear from you.
Yes 2 is an active age, I remember well. I will be home all morning.
AnneA – Please tell us what you want us to do exactly! I’ve asked you and KarenCCC at least three times this morning. What do you want us to do that you are so unhappy that has not been done yet?
You just wrote: “In the meantime a child may be being hurt and it can’t be acted on to soon.”
How are you or anyone going to “act on” this? What are you going to do?
AnneA and KarenCCC – I will chalk it up to you both being so upset and not getting enough sleep because I cannot see any other reason for you both to be so mad and so unhappy with the response here.
A few “negative” reactions should not drive you away. Not when at least three different research efforts are in progress and others (including you both I believe) are waiting for their results.
I have asked specifically what else – what can be done – and not gotten an answer. Can you help me?
Okay all….every chill please. EVERYONE in here is a child advocate. We ALL want to help children. Karen / AnneA – we are trying to confirm the validity of the video. We are in touch with the police and others to confirm this story. There is NO way I’m sending money to someone who is in all actuality a child molestor or druggie. THAT is why we are investigating to make sure this is legit. So far the signs point to this being a scam but it will take a little more time to confirm that. I will be the first to help if it is proven to be for real. PLEASE – don’t anyone leave. Everyone just remember we’re all in this together and we are HERE for the children. THAT is what brought us together and THAT is what we fight for. We all talk off topic, we all talk about cases other than Haleigh and Caylee and Sandra. But don’t be upset with us like we don’t care because we don’t immediately make a donation. We FIRST have to make sure this is legit and THEN we can find ways to help through donations, contacting LE, judges or whoever else we can to get help for this mom and daughter. When I called LE yesterday, they had not heard of this case BUT had received a large number of calls and emails trying to determine the validity of this case. It’s not just us trying to check this out…there are obviously others that WANT to help but want to make sure their money is actually going to help this child. IF this story is true I can assure you help will be provided.
So let’s all just take a deep breath, remember what it was that brought us together and play nice with one another. I love all you guys and I don’t want anyone to leave! Especially not over this!
Good Morning everyone. I was in the wrong place, but found you now
My opinion is that the last people to have seen Haleigh alive was Ron and Misty. I mean if you woke up in the wee morning hours and saw a door open with a brick holding it open, wouldn’t the first thing you would do, is call 911 I sure would have, because what if that person who had come in, was still somewhere in the house. I would have been to scared to have stayed in the house , and so scared, I wouldn’t have wanted to run outside either. And only being 17 so what does she do? She calls Ron – Something was not right – Foul play if you ask me
Nana–7:47am post– As I stated its all about perception. You read my post and it seemed to YOU that I was making fun of your spelling.
NOTHING could be further from the truth. If you read my comments, you will see I mispelled many words that I would never normally mispell.
Karen is calling me, so I am going to talk to her and see if we can come up with a way to actually do something for this child….If its real.
Thanks M2C, they’re really dragging their feet on releasing these, they know we’re waiting 🙂
Moring Jules, did you have the nice storm all night? Love it, thought the lightening was going to knock the power out, was a lovely night!
YW, Beth! Did you notice that wftv’s report said that they’d “post the latest pertinent information?” Key word “pertinent.” I wonder what they cut out? And why? Maybe I should write and ask them.
Beth – yup – my weather radio went off so many times I was about to hurl it across the room! Drove through a couple of lakes I think to get to to work! I WAS actually having a good hair day…until I left my house! 😆
Looks like it’s going to do this all day and all weekend! By the time I get to mow again I’m going to need a brush hog! 😯
FUGGNG b*tches made me miss the sunrise just to fix my THERE THEIR AND THEY’RS I dont mind the critism at all THEY CANT HOLD ME DOWN but I do like to fix it..
Mark came to bat for me early on at the first attack…he’s a sweetie…
lol M2C if you email them let them know we think ALL of it is pertinent, especially the video of M driving in circles 😛
M2C – anything posted yet on Maggot? Bring on the doc dump. Yeah, all the news outlets scan through all the stuff and post only what they want. I say they need to post it all. What may seem like nothing to them might be very important to us armchair detectives! 😀
AnneA and Karen CCC…….Before I become offended, before I become angry, I am going to point out a few things that are fact, not supposition.
Less than 24 hours ago, Karen brought the situation from the web site and the video to this forum. This time yesterday morning none of us here had ever heard of the horror presented in the story of Aalyiah. Since the initial post, Karen has made 64 subsequent posts beginning with a plea for help and now beginning to threaten to leave if we don’t immediately believe the story to be fact.
AnneA, a valued member of our on line family, appears to have taken offense at any expression of doubt or lack of complete acceptance of this horrible story as fact. You have stated “I am afraid if a person is not formally educated about this or they have no life experience to draw from, they don’t understand.”
I do in fact have a considerable background of formal education, I do admit that none is in this field. However, I RECIEVED A MASTER’S DEGREE IN BEING REPULSED AND HORRIFIED BY THIS TYPE OF ABUSE THE FIRST TIME I HELD MY CHILD. Each and every member of this site received a similar education by loving their children. To suggest a lack of understanding is completely wrong in my view.
Valid questions have been asked. Valid points have been made. To not be able to understand a lack of complete acceptance at this point is simply not a reasonable position to take.
Yesterday @ 4:06 p.m. Karen posted a e-mail she had received from “Connie” that started off as follows…………………………..
WE HAVE CONTACTED EVERYONE. THE MEDIA, OPRAH, DR. PHIL, ALL TALK SHOWS, COUNTY SHERIFFS, THE STATE CAPITOL, WE’VE MADE SHIRTS, WEBSITES, OVER 20 CPS REPORTS FROM PROFESSIONALS AND MOMS HAVE MADE, JOHN WALSH FROM AMERICAS MOST WANTED, AND THE LIST GOES ON.
Can you not understand the difficulty I have in believing John Walsh was not as hurt and outraged as me ?? Oprah Winfrey, Dr. Phil, along with what sounds like every elected official in California…and no one has done anything ??
I am sorry if what I believe to be prudent at this point, to gather the facts, does not appear to be an adequate response on my part. As I stated yesterday, when I have the facts, I will take the action my heart demands as I believe the majority of people here will do.
Jules you should see my hair on rainy days, my hair is a weather alert, kinks if its going to rain, I learned to like ponytails young.
Morning Pickles
KarenCCC you said, “I’ll just stop posting, unless there is a direct question to me.”
I have been asking direct questions all morning and not gotten an answer. What is it (reaction, action, donation, what?) that you have not gotten here?
With a very few exceptions, the reaction has been horror, sympathy and willingness to help (if it’s not a scam). And the kind of research that is being done for free on someone else’s dime and time would cost a LOT if you had to hire it from strangers. So why are you and AnneA so upset and unhappy with this board?
I dont buy the video is legit I remember hearing about this a long time ago..Im not trying to be confrontational or cause a ripple in the water but I dont think its real.
Good morning everyone!!
Karen your an awesome heart felt person for persuing this.
AnneA I dont want to upset you at all your one of the coolest cats in here but I have heard of this video before last summer I just….I think its a farse….If its real I will help to do whatever it takes to help this child but I have to have more solid proof its real
Thank you, LLP. You reminded me of something I thought of last night. You and Spacely and others DO very much feel this FIRST right in the heart AND THEN use your brains (intelligence and talents) to find out the truth and ways we can effectively be of help.
THat is the best way to go about this. Actually the ONLY way. Hearts are good and necessary and will make us fling ourselves between a bullet and a child in a split second but it’s not enough to be able to really provide help in this kind of situation.
So THANK YOU! For giving this your all!
In my honest opinion the police need to be notified about the CHILD PORNOGRAPHY that is on YOUTUBE that video true or not is a violation of that childs rights and privacy its disgusting and wrong to even be posted on a public forum that child whether abused or not is being exploited and exposed in an illegal manner.
This video is a violation of that childs rights that video is exploiting a child its sick and disgusting to be on an open forum I think that children who can read have access to “DADDYS WORM” its sick and disgusting I am appalled that YOUTUBE would allow such garbage on there site
I googled saveaaliyah & its on lots of boards so I would imagine it will be getting LE’s attention which it what is needed either way.
There are children my sons age who can access that video publicly on youtube its wrong that is a form of child pornography I think its being viewed from the wrong point of view my son could access that and read it
Guys I need help theres a fellow Navy Wife’s cousin has gone missing she is 17 years old..
Her name is Patricia JoAnn(PJ for short). Here is a link to her myspace page so you can see her pic.
myspace.com/patricia_joann09 . She is from Ohio…just saying if anyone is near Ohio keep a look out for her!
From the Navy wife her cousin Brandy :
” my 17 year old cousin is missing. no one has seen her in a couple days. the cops don’t think she ran away because she will be 18 next week, her prom and graduation are coming up soon and she was really excited about those things. also, nothing from her room is missing, no clothes, no cash, she doesn’t have her phone, nothing.
the last person who saw her was some boy and he’s been questioned but has changed his story several times.
i hope that she’s ok and she just decided to be stupid and run off. we don’t need another tragedy in our family. i had a 9 year old cousin to get kidnapped and murdered back in 2005 and i hope and pray that the same hasn’t happened to pj.
please keep her in her thoughts and pray that she makes it home safe. please keep her mom and the rest of our family in your thoughts.”
Ugh I know there isn’t a whole lot to do but I figure if I share the circumstances and her pictures maybe if anyone see’s her she can be brought home!
Just checked three of the main Orlando news sites and no docs yet. Unfortunately I have to leave soon. Can someone else take the torch and keep an eye out for them please?
Pickles, as I said yesterday, I agree. I think this is a type of child pornography whether it’s real or a scam and should not be on the web.
Pickles – I too believe it is a scam but we WILL find out one way or another.
Papa – NO ONE in this blog has more passion and tenacity when it comes to children. You have proven yourself to be a champion of the children and a hero to everyone here. Let’s just keep our research going and see what we come up. I would hate for Karen or AnneA to leave our blog family but if they cannot see that we are doing everything we can to get to the bottom of this, then perhaps it is just as well. I do NOT want them to leave but we ARE doing everything we can to help. BTW, I spoke to Dee Dee Gunther yesterday but I am going to email her today to see if she has had any luck confirming the validity of this case. I’ll keep you posted. God Bless You Papa! I know your heart is in the right place and you have NOTHING to prove to me or anyone else.
M2C – if you see the Doc Dump hit, let us know. I’m very anxious to see what goodies we get this time! 😀
Beth – I can’t find the words to describe my hair right now after getting caught in the downpour….needless to say, it’s NOT pretty!
Whether its a scam or not its EXPLOITING A CHILDS RIGHTS ITS A FORM OF EXPLOITATION AGAINST THAT CHILD my son could access that sick stuff and read it any child could access it its a public forum its disgustint that child is being VIOLATED AND EXPLOITED TRUE OR NOT THAT CHILD IS BEING EXPLOITED
I JUST EMAILED IT ALL DADDYS WORM FROM YOUTUBE AND SAVEAALIYAH TO CENTER FOR MISSING AND EXPLOITED CHILDREN
Good morning everyone. doing a quick drive by… back later, doing some last min prep for party tomorrow…
its humid here too and bad hair days 🙂
pickles doll, are you spell checkin ? lol you just go on back and enjoy the sunrise…
to everyone else, i been here a long time too, now call me a coward i have not even went to the video you all described I just can’t…it would bother me for 2 weeks.. the images… I pray if it is real , something will be done, if it isnt real then shame on sickos…
ok…and jules…get off his plank, like i told ya yesterday…lmao
🙂
I went to the Youtube site. If you want to get the attention of youtube to possibly take it off the net you can click on a Flag just under the box with the video in it. And if you search for how to contact Youtube there is a phone number that can be called. I flagged it but did not call the number yet. I thought it might be too early and I have to run.
I’m sure the more flags it gets, the more attention it will receive from youtube – since that tells them someone objects to it.
please everyone if you can take the time to read my post at 8:23am would be appreciated!
Butters that was good thinking to post her myspace pic, I’m not in Ohio but you never know where a person may go on their own or against their will. I hope it turns out okay, it’s getting crazy.
it rained all day here yesterday, and alls I can say about my hair?
ridiculous. it loked ridiculous, people were staring at the poodle hair i thought maybe i had the wig on
I emailed them the direct link and all for that video…
I think its sick and wrong I think a innocent child is being exploited for monitary gain for donations sakes
WHERE’S THE BEEF LORIM??????
Papa, I wasn’t threatening anything. I just don’t want to cause trouble, and that seems all I have done.
m2c, I haven’t said that I am unhappy about no one helping, I know people are helping. Again, about money, I didn’t ask anyone to send money. I just thought if I got this out to millions of people that there would be a lawyer in her area that could contact her and get her the help she needs. That’s all I wanted. I am unhappy that I have to validate why I am here.
Papa, I have contacted John Walsh’s site, Oprah’s won’t even let me put up a post because it violates it’s rules, I contacted so many different people and as I said yesterday, this forum is the only one that is helping me. I am thankful. I do not want to start any trouble.
Butters- I certainly will pray for them! 🙁
Pickles, that was exactly the right thing to do. That organization is committed to helping children. Thank you!
Pammy!! I was a spell checkin!!
That jerk Paul is bak on my Sandra article BITE TONGUE MUST BITE TONGUE MUST BITE TONGE gonna bite it off…
well dont forget to enjoy the sunrise! its turning sunny and warm here today! whoo hoo!!
I contacted center for missing exploited children and gave them all the links.
I don’t think the child is recognizable in the video though….I haven’t been able to spend much time at all on this “mystery”…but if the childs face is not shown, or her last name….AND IF IT’S REAL…I see this as a desperate attempt to get the truth out to the world since nobody seems to listening to her!
If it’s NOT legit then this is really really sick!
Beth- Exactly I am just saying if anyone here is in the surrounding states that maybe they could see her and report her missing.. I am half tempted to contact NG myself.
Thank you Pammy, the poor family is a wreck obviously since they have been victims of something like this before :(.
I dont know C~A I heard about this story a long time ago…..I dont know
That’s all I wanted. I am unhappy that I have to validate why I am here.
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Karen…if this all legit, validating why you are here should NOT be an issue!
Pickles, she told me that video was made June 9th 2008,so maybe it was posted then as well? I don’t know?
CA, I’m not the one making it an issue.
I am at the point of concern for the child in the video being used and exploited for donations sakes the only thing on that site is for donations if she needs a lawyer that bad her states bar association has a low cost to free lawyers available for this type of thing id imagine any laywer would jump on the chance to take this case.
I am worried for this child being used and exploited for this woman to reap monitary gain
Pickles, there is other information on that site. They speak to lawyers and police officers, psychologits and psychiatrists….they plead for help. As I said yesterday, if it’s a hoax, she will be hunted down! By me!
I hope its fake……..I think that child is being exploited.
Karen YOUR A WONDERFUL PERSON FOR PERSUING THIS
Okay, I just emailed Dee Dee Gunther from the Roseville PD. I spoke with her yesterday but am following up with an email. Hopefully she has made some headway in determining whether this Aalyiah video is a scam or not. If it is a scam, then hopefully the Roseville PD will press charges against this Connie R. Bedwell person. I’ll let everyone know as soon as I hear back from her. If I don’t hear back from her by this afternoon, I’ll call her again. We WILL get to the bottom of this….just need a little patience from everyone!
Thank you, Pickles…you all are wonderful too, for listening and helping…..
I think we all should be cautious of this whole video etc. because we do not want to get dooped but if it is indeed real we will bring our force!
Butters DUDE!!!!!! I agree!
wftv.com/news/19334859/detail.html
400 new pages, they are going through them I bet in a couple hours they will all be released. It takes awhile for them to do it.
Jules, did you see the post with the abuser’s name and court #? His name is Dustin David Thompson and the court # is: SDR-27409 The judge is Jeffrey Penny.
DOC DUMP LOVE IT ITS WHAT WE LIVE FOR!!
C~A, I’m here waiting on the beef with ya…LOL! I hope it’s beefy beef 🙂
Lab results were alluded to so .. we could have the big enchilada!
C~A DOC DUMP TODAY!!!! YOU GETTING EXCITED??
Hey you can have my PST every other week K!
Anthony, 23, is charged with first-degree murder in the death of her daughter, Caylee Marie Anthony. The remains of the toddler were found Dec. 11 less than a mile from the Anthony family home after a nearly six-month search for the child.
Casey Anthony told investigators she left her daughter with a babysitter in June and they disappeared. Casey Anthony was already under indictment — and in jail — when her daughter’s body was recovered.
Here’s what we have found so far:
Hair samples taken from Caylee Marie Anthony’s remains were tested for a variety of drugs, with negative results.
Examiners did not detect alprazolam, known under the trade name Xanax, or diazepam, marketed as Valium. The FBI report states the hair sample was not tested for chloroform, “as this examination is not deemed probative by the FBI Laboratory’s Chemistry Unit.”
“Although the method used in this analysis allows for the detection of very small amounts of the drugs listed, negative results should not be interpreted as proof that the individual was not exposed to the drugs listed,” the report stated.
Nothing said of bone marrow so don’t fret yet guys!
thanks Butters, now I’m hungry for an enchilada 🙄
Enchilada tostada burrito nachos sopa menudal
Did you guys see this:
Meanwhile, the land where Caylee’s remains were found will go on the auction block to the highest bidder on eBay.
The realtor said whoever buys the land can do what they want with the current memorial there.
M could suck a piece of rice out of an enchilada.. lol
Yo Picks, we’re at 700+ posts, when the docs come out its going to get busy, think we ought to jump through a hole now??
ohh boy bet you see C&G and their money man jumping at that..
If we do I promise to keep my hands off your bootie 🙂
I saw that Lorim, wondered if the guy was going for a killer price or if it won’t sell otherwise??
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I just pray the Ant’s don’t get their hands on it!
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Good Morning everyone,
First of all I’d like to tell Karen that it is ok that you came in here about this little girl. I honestly believe that even if this video does turn out to be a hoax, that you are a victim of it as we would be. You appear to me to be a concerned parent worried about the well-being of another chld.
OK next, I emailed that place where you gave me the addy yesterday and no one bothered to email me back so today I emailed Connie herself and I am waiting to hear from her now. What bothers me is if these people are so desperate to find help, how come it takes them so long to respond to a simple email.
Anyway as soon as I hear from her (if I do) we will go forward with this to see if it is for real or another sick, hoax.
I would rather get pissed off at someone playing a hoax than to see this little girl actually be abused like this and no one willing to help. I would eventually get over being played by a hoax, but if a child is being abused this way, she might not ever get over it. We have to remember there are some sick people in this world.
Karen I thank you for bringing this to our attention. One way or another hopefully we will get to the bottom of this and if we can hopefully it will help the little girl or at least stop this sick game someone is trying to play.
Take care everyone and God bless you all!
Jan Barrett
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Jan, Thank you. I can honestly say that I think the “people” that are helping her is Connie herself. I found where Connie Bedwell is the mother of Aaliyah. She emails me all the time. I told her about you and to keep a look out for you. Her last email to me was at 1:30 am, I’m in Georgia, so of course you know the three hour difference. She usually is online, from what I can tell, just about now and then really late. She did tell me yesterday that she got to see Aaliyah. Thank you Jan, for everything.
Morning, Pickles! You certainly have your hands full….
Karen we moved blogs go to main page and go to my new Sandra article.
Sandra Cantu: More Trouble for Huckaby
Karen – I have forwarded another email to Dee Dee Gunther with the abuser’s name, judge’s name and case number. That should assist her in verifying whether this is legit or not!
Butters – I will keep PJ in my prayers and will keep her picture handy. I do hope this has a VERY happy ending!
BUTTERS – did you take another test this morning? AND??????????
I found this about Dustin Thompson in Placer county:
02-NOV-2006 0117725 GRANTOR THOMPSON DUSTIN D NT SUP JUDG
It means there was something to do with child support in which he was the payor a couple of years ago.
So, looks to me like at one point, she had custody…and the court date from this March where she is now the Grantor…looks like he has custody…
karenccc, was reading your posts my question is if the mother knows this abuse is going on why didnt she pack her daughter up and go to a safe house??? she could get the help she needed there including a attorney..they even have these places in mn so im sure thhey have them in ca..not trying to start trouble but why would she let her child go back with the abuser?????
ANNA GO TO THE NEW ARTICLE
YOU ARE NOT RAGGEDY ANNIE THATS SOME STUPID TWIT WHO TALKS SMACK ABOUT ME
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Pickles, I’ll go there in a minute after I answer Anna.
Anna, all I know is the mother fled to Canada and after a year of not being harrassed by the father, she moved back and then had custody taken from her. Go to http://www.saveaaliyah.com, and read “about us”.
The Save Aaliyah website is now down???
Seems to be back online now, must have been a glitch!
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