It is a very broad question, and one that comes with potentially very complex answers. Casey dodged the big three murder charges, but does still face the four lying to the police issues.
Sentencing is set for 9am tomorrow, and there is a great deal of speculation as to what Judge Perry may do. It is possible that Casey Anthony may walk free based on time served. It is possible that Judge Perry can somehow incorporate the six felony convictions for check fraud and use them as leverage to keep her in jail for several more months. To explain, Casey Anthony has paid her ‘dues’ for the check problem in time served. So if Judge Perry chooses to do so he could impose the maximum sentence for each, he could also force them to be served sequentially, and start the clock running from the date of the Check conviction.
Personally I think she will walk free. I base that on an email put out by the court spokeswoman Karen Levy. Karen is always very careful as to the wording of the message she wishes to convey. Her message is that because of the high profile nature of this case, Casey Anthony will not be permitted to leave the court room tomorrow morning so that she skip down the road hand in hand with Cheney Mason and Jose Baez. Rather, she will be released at some other predetermined location.
The burning question is what happens next? There is a good deal of anger floating around the Internet. Many trial watchers are unhappy with this final chapter. Jan sums it up very well in her latest article.
Actually this is not the final chapter, this is merely the end of Part One. Yes, this is OJ all over again. The civil law suits will likely start flying. Casey Anthony must deal with Zenaida Gonsalez, in fact now she cannot avoid the dreaded Deposition. There are going to be some awkward questions asked of Casey.
My sources also are whispering in my ear that the Grund family are likely to start an action against the National Inquirer, once again Casey Anthony is going to find herself on the hot seat!
Attorney Mannie Barling pointed out to me that there is also a chance that George and Cindy Anthony may take up pitchforks against Nancy Grace of HLN fame. Nancy settled out of court over her Trenton Ducket fiasco, could the Anthony family play that card?
There is another potential problem, a wild card that could cut Casey Anthony’s celebration really short. Our constitution does not permit a person to be tried a second time on the same charges. You get one shot at it, and then it is over. Right?
Well, almost right. I want you to think back to the Rodney King trial. The evidence was compelling that the police used brutal force in beating Mr. King. The jury however found the police officers not guilty. The feds stepped in with a civil liberty suit.
Is it possible that the feds may play the ‘King’ card?
If any of these scenarios play out, and my little birdies are telling me they may, ouch Casey Anthony is in some major trouble.
At this point I will opt to keep my sources to myself, but I have a sneaking suspicion that it will not very long before they speak publicly.
This case is far from over. Do not give up on our judicial system, it does from time to time appear to be derailed, but like the Postal Service eventually it delivers!
Simon Barrett
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Follow-up comment rss or Leave a TrackbackJurors are getting publicists and asking for big bucks for interviews, you have to wonder is this going to turn into a chance at being on a jury like winning the lottery? I am appaulled by it. jmo
Lets make a deal after I serve on the Jury? I dont believe this is what our justice system is about. jmo
Oh this is awful. More of the “we can’t do anything without the Feds” garbage. How convenient.
I agree, Tobias!
Jan, let’s hope that the outrage from the American people leaves Casey feeling forever rejected. This will be harder for her to overcome in public versus lying to herself while she’s hiding behind bars. I’m sure she’ll find that life behind bars might have been easier.
If the Anthony’s take Casey back into their home, they will be forever shunned as well and personally, I don’t think George or Cindy could emotionally handle living with Casey and the drama again. I really think the parents are ready to put this behind them and develop some kind of normalcy. I can understand Cindy wanting to protect Casey from death, but I have a hard time believing that she didn’t want some justice for Caylee when she broke down on the stand, dragged one of Caylee’s stuffed animals around in court or wearing her picture around her neck.
I look forward to watching Casey crumble in the real world. The civil trial should be interesting.
Any small amount of money forwarded for books and interviews should go to the ones who I pray will file civil actions in court. They do deserve compensation, Casey ruined their lives with her lies. jmo
This jury decision has forced me to look deeply into myself. I feel that I want Casey to suffer. I want her to be arrested for something else and have the book thrown at her like they did with O.J. I had that Jose Baez won. I hate, I hate, I hate… Hey, wait, why am I so angry? Do I feel my life has been unfair? Yes, I do. And I don’t want anybody to be successful or happy. Wow! Why am I so angry? I don’t like to feel this way.
I hope your right Simon that this is only the beginning. This verdict has made me absolutely sick and I frankly don’t give a damn what anyone on the jury has to say. They didn’t review ONE PIECE of evidence during their “deliberations” and yet they say the state proved nothing and totally buyed into Jose’s BS Opening Statement. Disgusting!!!
No matter what anyone says, they didn’t do their duty – they wanted to go home, two jurors had vacation plans coming up in the nexct few days.
I’m absolutely disgusted that those sickening individuals on the defense team were celebrating out in public, basically rubbing it in the noses of people that they got the baby killer off. And the lovely “salute” Cheny Mason gave everyone? His behavior proves what a low class individual he is, along with that bottom feeder Jose Baez. Celebrating while a baby is dead – again disgusting.
I hope this is only Chapter 1 of this saga. I just heard that Tim Miller is thinking about suing, as he should, along with the Grunds, Amy Huizenga, Ricardo Morales, Roy Kronk and every other individual that Cindy Anthony set out to destroy.
My only solice is that my anger is echoed by millions of people who are absoultely disgusted with this travesty.
Im to young, I learned about Rodney King in school years ago. What did the feds step in and do?
What comes next for casey? I assume porn.
The fact of the matter is there is no evidence, the only thing the prosecution proved in a court of law is that Casey is a liar. Does that make her a murder? Where is the DNA in this case? I though technology was the future. If you really want justice for Caley, then perhaps you would want to find the real killer?
Better serve her befor she leaves that jail cause she will be long gone. This is so wrong but she may walk free……….haha watching?? her back?? She will be on facebook looking for a pimp. Someone will get her.I hope she gets beat down everytime she walks out!!
right after I typed that.. NG said a xxx rated movie deal doesn’t even want her LOL
the girl was found not guilty. wants wrong with you people.We do not know 100% who killed the baby for sure.
and one again you people, are taking the law into your own hands.
there is a god, let him handle it. not all of the know it alls
i am amaze at all the free time people have to sit around and and dream up sicking ways to get back.
are you’s just as guilty ?
I just heard about a new law to be proposed in Fl. “Caylee’s law”. This will make if a felony if you do not report a child under 10 missing in the first 48 hours. I do hope this gets attention, support and is written into law. This is a good law IMO
I agree Barb
Thank you Simon for the respect shown toward our legal system- as a famous law professor described it- its not about fairness and justice- if you want that go to china, Russia or the military court- our system is about upholding the constitution and protecting individual rights (of the defendent- not the victim- I’ll cut and paste my notes from his interview on CNN below) and your insights about sentencing and conjecture about the future. Tell your wife I am sorry about the verdict- it is what I wanted but I know EVERYBODY else is heartbroken. Can NOT WAIT to hear your next blogger radio show!
NOTES: OUR DEMOCRATIC SYSTEM- DON’T EXPECT TRUTH OR JUCTICE –its not about that- go to china or Russia or military court- “district attorney said this case is about justice for Caylee”- wrong!- it’s not about justice or even truth- its about the existence of admissible evidence that will prove said charges beyond a reasonable doubt”- the defense and state cases were spectulative; reasonable doubt- is not even “If they almost surely did it; guard privacy rights, junk science; verdict consistent with constitutional rights; accidential manslaughter; over charged and over tired
Thanks, barbinOhio! It is good to know that a possible “Caylee’s Law” is being proposed, but does it go far enough? Is there not a law in place for covering up a dead body regardless of the age of the victim? What about lying? How could there not be a law in place to penalize a person who KNEW someone was DEAD (let alone missing)…period? And the penalty should increase for every day that goes by without confession of knowing once it is found out.
Frankly, I feel that this verdict leaves the door wide open for anyone who’s contemplating murder to just dispose of the body and know they will never be found guilty as long as the body is never found or deteriorated beyond collecting evidence from it.
I bet the judge has plenty to say before sentencing this morning and I hope he takes at least an hour to say it!!
I also no longer believe that the burden of proof should rest soley on the prosecution. I believe that the law needs to be changed to force equal burden from the defense to prove their innocence. If someone is truly innocent, they would tell you EVERYTHING they know in their own defense.
This defense didn’t even provide an explanation for Caylee’s death. She drowned. period. Nothing else. If this were true, Bozo would have gone to great lengths to provide the details as to where Caylee and Casey were and what they were doing when this tragic accident supposedly happened. No explanation.
I also believe that Casey should be charged with obstruction of justice and not just lying. I think she left herself wide open for that when she accused George of assisting by disposing of Caylee’s body. If we were to believe her, which no one does, then she obstructed justice when she kept law enforcement from bringing charges against George too.
What a farce this whole case has been, and now the little witch will be released next Wed, July 13. May she rot in hell.
For some reason I believe most of these people saying justice was done, because of lack of evidence and this including jurors thought first degree is all that could be offered. It even came from a couple of jurors. I am appalled that a lesser charge diffintely fit the case ie. child abuse, child endangerment, child neglect…for pity’s sake guilty of this for not reporting child missing, accident, whatever?? So please people out there yelling no evidence, did you listen to charges and punishment read by judge? you could have downloaded it as I did. To me that is what I have a problem with…. whether the jurors even understood.
My anger has quickly turned to the Orange County Sheriff’s Department. When the spot where the remains were found were reported, they should have done EVERYTHING to investigate the site. I don’t want to hear ANY excuses about the water! Someone should have brought in a pump to get the water out of the sited location and investigated it! This was a department error that never should have taken place! It’s one thing to accidentally overlook a piece of evidence and another to disregard it altogether!
Dee remember they were looking for an alive, kidnapped child. And Simon poor old Vassco, bless his heart I’m sure he didn’t know what hit him when Baez suppeoned him. (I really have to laugh at that one on Baez’s part)…diffentely not Vassco nobody needed to know his past after he paid his dues and adjusted his life only to possibly start over having to explain to people whom it did not concern the whole nation and beyond.
Simpleminded, Kronk wasn’t the only one who contacted authorities about the site. Keith Williams also contacted the department five days after Kronk (exact same location) only for the SAME officer to take the bag of stuffed animals that Williams found, look at it, and throw it back in the water! Big mistake! Luckily, that officer was fired! May other law enforcement agencies learn from this!
It is also my understanding that Cheney Mason is upset with the Orange County Sheriff’s Dept. regarding the same thing, however, I wonder for what reasons. Apparently, that interview will be aired tomorrow.
Oh, and might I add that once Casey sent law enforcement on a wild goose chase and they caught her lying at every turn, do you really believe that law enforcement thought Caylee was still alive? I hightly doubt that.
I for one am appalled at the verdict!
I do not want the jurors names released. It should be their choice I feel it could be very dangerous for them.
Casey is the one responsible for whatever happened to Caylee.
In her first call home from jail wanting Tonys number Christina told her that all of her family supports her and her reply was ” All THEY want is Caylee back! THey means George, Cindy and LEE. THEY had no idea that anything had happened to Caylee at that time; just that Caylee wastaken by Zenaida. This only leaves Casey that knew where Caylee was and what happened.Caseys fabricated people never came about until she lost her job at universal in April 2008, none before that. Casey made up lies to evade and manipulate her family.
In Jose Baezs closing argument he said to the jury “why not chage her with illegal disposing of a body.” He said this to the jury. Why could they not see that jose just told them that his client put poor Caylee in the swamp? It is what it told me.
I agree with the Caylee law and have signed it.
ALL IMO
Very good points, Looking!
And yes, while Casey is ultimately responsible for what happened to Caylee, unfortunately, we now have to expect law enforcement to step up their act another notch to make sure people like Casey are being held responsible.
Strange isnt it that Casey partied after her daughter was dead and then we see the Defense partying after they got her killer a not guilty verdict? I dont believe these people even thought about that baby, just winning duh! and Casey. jmo
oops that should have been in April 2006 when she lost her job at Universal. Sorry for the mistake in my prior post.
Tobias I told you that Baez and Casey were two peas in a pod.LOL!!
Dee in Caylees case LE put everthing they had into their investigation. I am not sure there was more that they could of done. They were extensively thorough. The prosecution team were absolutely brilliant. The info was there.
Experts from the prosecution and defense all stated that chloroform was present. They all stated that chloroform was a volitle compound chemical that evaporatd quickly They were all shocked that it was even present ( CLUE). You connect this to the computer search for how to make chlorofom and connect it to Ricardo Morales stating on the stand that he only saw Casey discipline Caylee when it was time for her to go to sleep. Then he sends her the pic ” win her over with chloroform on Caseys myspace. He said it wa a joke but I think Casey may have gotten the idea from this pic.
The evidence was there it just was not heard. Common sense was not used imo. Duct tape was present which should have never been there. A rare duct tape at that. All the items came from the Anthony home. In Caseys one jailhouse visit she tells George and Cindy that Zaneida had a key to their home in case she needed anything for Caylee.
I do not know why the Defense was celebrating because it was not anything they did that caused the acquittal. It was that the jury just did not get it. I do feel for the jury.I do understand they were tired and did not want to connect the dots themselves with all the evidence they needed. I disagree with their verdict and today I feel Caylee was not served the due Justice she deserved. jmo
vun said,in July 6th, 2011 at 8:11 pm the girl was found not guilty. wants wrong with you people.We do not know 100% who killed the baby for sure.
and one again you people, are taking the law into your own hands.
there is a god, let him handle it. not all of the know it alls
i am amaze at all the free time people have to sit around and and dream up sicking ways to get back.
are you’s just as guilty ?
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I have to admit I did think Casey was guilty of accidentally killing Caylee with Chloroform. I felt she would get at least 30 years. I was believing the media about duct tape, heart shaped stickers and all the rest.. Now the truth has been revealed. All of this “evidence” was media hype and drama. It is a sad thing. People are still believing the duct tape was on this child’s mouth and nose even though the jurors stated it was not. Even Ashton who was just on Bill O Reilly admitted the duck tape was not anywhere directly on the skull. (I am sure the transcript will be available tomorrow) A picture of the scene shows it lying on the brush. There was no duct tape on this child’s face people. People still hang on to the Chloroform even though these same jurors said it was easy to rule it out. All experts stated Chloroform evaporates very quickly. Well the test for this chloroform in her trunk was not done for at least 31 days after Caylee was gone. After 31 days in a hot trunk it is not even possible for any chemical that has a quick evaporation rate to be present. The only “expert” who stated it was, was the one who is using unproven equipment he invented, never before used in court, that he is trying to sell to LE. The searches for this Chloroform on the computer, well we now know it was only 1. All of this plus the unproven purely speculated, death band on one stand of hair, no heart Shaped sticker was present after all, NONE… plus all of the additional information we have since found out shows the prosecution just did not have any evidence other than Casey’s behavior to convict her. Today in court we found out that the all the lies to LE which she was convicted on, were all told in one day. Not over the course of the 31 days. I admit the fact she did not report Casey missing is absolutely terrible. But we can not use this as a reason to convict this person of murder. I for one will never claim to know more than this jury who had ALL the true information laid on a table right before them. People seem to delight in the hatred and are energized by the adrenaline it produces. They twist the truth and recount information as they want others to believe it. They pull together miss information to promote hatred and all while claiming to want justice . I think this is a sin. JMO
Some people are hoping for vigilante justice. Another words they are praying that some over impassioned human being kills Casey. What a shame. I hear a lot of talk about God will judge her. Well maybe God’s will was done here already. Maybe this is what was meant to happen in this case. How can we be so pompous as human beings as to think God was not paying attention here? Are we to believe God made the same mistake the Jury supposedly did? Oh ye of little faith, I pray for you.
Anyone who believes in God and still has such hatred in their hearts and bears false witness as we have seen in this case may also have to ask forgiveness someday. I believe it is stated judge not, less ye be judged, or do we not talk about this part?
Its interesting that you mention God’s Will. Ever since this verdict was announced, I’ve been struggling to find some peace with it. I remember, that as I sat there listening to the verdict, I was angry. At the same time, I remembered the conversation that Jesus had with Peter shortly after Peter denied Him 3 times. Jesus had told Peter the manner in which he would die. “Then Peter, turning around, saw the disciple whom Jesus loved following, who also leaned on His breast at the supper…Peter seeing him said ‘but Lord, what about this man?’ Jesus said to him ‘if I will that he remain until I come, what is that to you?”
Simply stated: Its none of your concern. It meant, to me, that I needed to concern myself with God’s Will for my life.
Furthermore, there is another text that has relevance to this topic. Ezekiel 33:10,11 says “As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign LORD, I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn from their ways and live.”
I believe that Casey Anthony is a child of God, and that He has a purpose for her life. Apparently, He is not done with her yet. And its not our place to judge…its really none of our business.
Wow! I must have missed more in this trial than I thought, even though I was following up on it daily. Thanks for the details, Barbinohio! I hope they release the crime scene photos to the public for all to see!
Once again, if Deputy Richard Cain from the Orange County Sheriff’s Dept. had done his job, I’m sure the evidence would have been in tact enough for us to figure out more of the missing pieces to this puzzle! The prosecution can only work with what they have!
We are all human and it’s instinctive to want to see justice done before our own eyes, even when we know God may have another plan. Remember, he designed us that way to keep order amongst ourselves. At least this brought much awareness to innocent children. It should also remind us that we are living in a time when we can expect to see more wolves in sheeps clothing than ever before. I believe this to be God’s intent as well, so not to be deceived when harder times, evil people, and especially false preachers start becoming the norm. And they will. And it may be coming sooner than we think!
The duct tape was a very important peice of evidence. The duct tape had decomposed just as Caylee did but was still attached to the mandible with plants that had grown through it and it also attached it to Caylees hair.This places the duct tape about the face area of Caylee.
If the duct tape was not present then tell me
why Jose Baez stressed to the jury “FOLLOW THE DUCT TAPE”!To lead it away from Casey to George.
I will say again in Jose Baezs closing argument charge her illegal disposal of a body to the jury. This says Casey put her in the swamp. No tell me how did she get her there? Perhaps it was a piggy back ride, in a stroller or better yet! how about the trunk that smelled of human decomposition.jmo
The jury has said Casey A. is not innocent. That is how they felt even though they didnt vote to hand down a guilty verdict. They from that statement are saying she did it but the prosectution didnt have enough hard evidence for them to chose GUILTY WITHOUT A REASONABLE DOUBT. To me it sounded like they wanted more proof but since Tropical storm Faye washed most of it away and Caylee became a skeleton before they found her chances are the prosecution could only get what they did.Also since there were even more days looking for a live child instead of a dead one they lost even more evidence.And the reason for that is all the lies Casey told and her parents told from day one. jmo
The State may not have won in court but by showing everyone the evidence and the experts opinions the public knows she is GUILTY. JMO
Arpad Vass, Dr.Rickenbach and the defense exprt Furtonall found chloroform present in caseys trunk. In which it did shock them all to even find it there after so long. Commonsense should apply.jmo
Dee and Tobias, very well said.
I am terribly dissapointed by the not guilty verdict. The criminal court failed to keep her in prison. Maybe a civil court would keep her in prison for a long time.
Civil court cases can not be brought by the state. Civil court cases can only be brought by individuals or corporations. Judges and juries do not determine guilt or innocence in civil cases as they do in criminal matters. The rulings reached in civil matters are most often monetary decisions that favor one party over the other. Defendants in civil lawsuits will not receive prison or jail time as part of the judge or jury’s decision. Prison or jail is strictly a remedy in favor of the state against a guilty defendant in a criminal proceeding
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No jail time in a civil case, but Zanny and others hurt by Caseys lies deserve to be compensated moneywise and in the courts. I hope they sue her big time. jmo
God not to speak with a forked tongue, thou shall not kill. Thou shall not bear false witness. Jessie, Grund was falsely accused by Casey and Cindy per Jessie Grund, Zaneida Gonzales totally innocent got bought into this by Casey and all the info from saw grass apts. Casey spoke with a forked tongue pertaining to her daughter. In judging the evidence is what establishes the guilt of a person. I do see ppl wanting to committ vigilante justice against Casey and I do think this wrong and will not serve Caylees memory at all.
The juros did say that they did not feel Caey was innoent. They claimed there was not enough evidence, but the one juror said they started to go through the evidence and started to question when ,where and why and that is when they decided to vote not guilty. They should have took notes and went through the evidence in order to search for the truth and this was not done.
God gives us all free will. He knows what is going to happen but he does not intevene. There will be a judgement day in heaven for Casey and this judge she will not be able to lie to because he knows all.jmo
ITA,I see justice in the way of how she so wanted that beautiful life. I hope she suffers poverty, shunning by society, and has a long miserable life in which to think over and over how she made her choices and how she killed the beautiful life along with Caylee. jmo
The duct tape was indeed a very important piece of evidence. It was believed by prosecution to be THE murder weapon. The interviews which are currently on In Session and have been all day and the interview with Ashton on Bill O’Reilly last night, clear the location of the duct tape at the crime scene up. The duct tape was not attached nor touching any part of the skull. It was lying in the dirt near the lower part of the skull according to Ashton himself. These are not my words but that of the Ashton’s himself and the juror as well as the crime scene photos. The duct tape was present at the scene just not on the skull or any of the body.
Baez meant the duct tape was owned and used by George in several proven ways including to hang posters. He is speculating that because George bought and used the duct tape for other things, this leads to the possibility of George using the duct tape to seal the bags as he did with the pets.
I am not saying Casey did not put her child in the woods because I do not know. None of us do. Only Casey and God know, unless George placed her there or Lee or someone else helped do this. Which has not been ruled out by anyone thus far. There is just no evidence to show Casey did in fact do this beyond a reasonable doubt. The area was overgrown and the body was placed under a large flat piece of wood and a large tree limb or trunk as you can see in the pictures. According to witnesses it took a man to lift these things to be able to retrieve the body. Since Casey only weighed 105 lbs and was no way as strong as a large man, some feel she could not have placed the remains there alone. So I do not know who actually put the body where it was found.
As there were people who stated they smelled the stench in the car there were 7 witnesses including some of LE who testified they did not smell decomposition. There is no proof what was in the trunk according to the Jury and the evidence itself. If there were the prosecution would have gotten a guilty verdict.
It was just not proven.
You can choose to hear what you want and believe what ever you want but the statements now, after this trial including by by Ashton himself and the witnesses and the Jury, the photos and all else clear up a lot of misinformation including heart shaped stickers 84 searches for Chloroform and duct tape on the skull, that everyone was basing their opinion on. Evidently some want to continue the hatred and are beyond any reason here. Myself, I accept what is now shown and what the Jury disclosed is the truth. I realize I was listening to misinformation and I was wrong.
I listened to every show that has been on.Ashton felt the jurors would see from the pics what the State saw. Spitz and Garavaglia both said the tape had to of been there because the madible would have fallen apart without it.Spitz demonstrated it on the stand. Spitz then said the tape was placed on after deomposition on to the skeleton.
I believe the tape was no longer over Caylee nose and mouth after 6 months of being out in the woods and going through tropical storm Faye. That would of been a miracle but it was still there nonetheless. Spitz and Garavaglia both agree on this.jmo
And as far as any DNA being left on the tape, well there wasnt any on the bones so why would there be any on the tape? If you look at it logically you will see they were right. And as far as it being place on the bags It would have been hoops of tape around the bags not 3 overlapping 5-6 inch pieces. jmo
If you want to know what Ashton said you can see or read the transcript of the Bill O’Rielly from last night. 7/7. He clearly stated the duct tape was not on the skull. At 2:34 of the video. He states “the duct tape was not directly on the skull.” “but very near to the mouth area.” The photo shows is it to be in brush on the ground. I recorded it and watched it back several times. Later in the show you can hear O’Rielly put the spin on it by saying the duct tape was “all over the child’s body” This is what media has done through out this case to us. They have given us lies. Just like the heart shaped sticker on the duct tape. It was not there. Talk about false witness. The photos of the duct tape were viewed by the jury. The alternate stated there were three pieces stuck together . He stated “they were not very big at all.” I am not sure if 5 to 6 inches could fit the description of tape not being very big at all. If you see the tape you can also see one piece is slightly vertical to the other. None appear to be big , just as the juror stated.
Duct tape is an extremely strong tape that is actually composed of three layers: Layer 1: A Resilient Plastic Layer 2: A Fabric Mesh Layer 3: Rubber Based Adhesive . Duct Tape floats unless it is on the heavy card board roll. So if we use the theory that the area was indeed flooded. Then the duct tape would not have stayed in one spot. It would have floated. So common sense will tell us that the duct tape was most likely not in the same spot for the entire 6 months. I agree it would have been a miracle to find the duct tape in the same place given the time and the conditions in the area. So then how does anyone know beyond a reasonable doubt that the duct tape was ever on Caylees face? It is only pure speculation and the media’s sensationalism.
Some of the experts stated if the duct tape was put on the body there would be DNA. Some felt if the duct tape was stuck to the skull then there would be DNA stuck to the duct taped. There would have been the adhesive part of the tape protecting the DNA or so it was suggested. I do not know I am not an expert.
I have listened to several interviews with the 2 people seated as jurors. The alternate stated he believed it was an accident that got out of control. He also stated he felt it was possible George was involved.
None of the jurors that I have heard said in any of their interviews “we did not find her innocent” as has been put out there by media. Here is #3 also on Bill O’ Reilly. You can see by her statement that she did not say giving this verdict “made her sick” . This was also miss reported by the media.
JENNIFER FORD, CASEY ANTHONY JUROR: I’m going to sleep just fine because I had — in this country, that’s our Constitution. I applied the law. I did the best I could. I tried to make it work. I was reaching. I was trying to, you know, like I said, if they are all three there and no medical attention is given then that’s — that’s — what’s it? Culpable negligence, failure to provide safety and medical care and things like that.
You can also see by her statement she feels it may have been an accident. Bill went berserk he harshly criticized her . He stated there is no evidence of an accident. But we know all of it is speculation and the prosecution’s case was circumstantial. It is what they thought the evidence suggested. No one knows what happened. We do not know if it was an accident because no one proved that either. We just do not know.
Drowning is number 4 on the leading cause of accidental deaths in the US. The highest death by age group was the 1 to 4 yr old group with 27% of all of the drowning.
I never gave accidental drowning a thought in this case. I believed the media completely. I thought for sure Casey would be found guilty, not of 1st degree but of the second count. Now I just do not know. I have to believe in the jury I also believe that we will we will find out what really happened. I do not think this case is over. Far from it.
Casey and her attorney both would have to be voted the two most stupid people in the world if this were a drowning. No one would sit in jail for 3 years if it were true. There was no reason to fear George since she was in protective custody and all of the video and jailhouse tapes make it very obvious that there was no molestation. She tells him he’s the best father in the world, when she has to choose one family member over another for a visit she chooses George over the rest of the family…..do I need to go on here? First of all, the letter that Casey wrote to the other inmate even said, “I think my father may have molested me when I was younger”. Really? So, now the word “might” is proof that he did it? NONE of it makes sense Barbin!!!
Dee I agree with you. Everyone wants to always blame the media, I believe what I heard in the trial. Bill Oreilly is the NO Spin Zone. Any part of the head is the skull. I have not seen the pic nor would I want to, but if the tape had not been attached to the madible ,which is apart of the mouth and jaw it would have fallen apart per Dr.Spitz and he even demonstrated it on the stand. The mandible was still together.FACT
lets talk reasonable doubt. Is it reasonable for the duct tape to be attached to the mandible and hair of a child that has been thrown in the swamp like she was trash? IMO absolutely not. There was those three peices and one that was found 6.2 feet away from the remains.this makes 4 peices of duct tape.IMO 5 to 6 inches is big enough to fit over little Caylees mouth and nose. Ashton demonstrated there were two pieces that was put on verical and one horizontal. He did this in his closing argument.
We will have to agree to diagree respectfully because I am basing my info from the trial not the media.jmo
I agree, Looking! The big hole here is what’s considered to be reasonable! The problem is telling jurors that the defense only has to raise reasonable doubt. I bet if we used this theory and used reason as a checklist on everything presented, we would have found that there would have been more check marks for the prosecution than the defense on creating reason. Unfortunately, the one juror who has come forward came out and actually said that it was “easier” to find her innocent versus guilty. Obviously, they didn’t create a full checklist and go over ALL of the evidence.
The juror actually said she tried to make it fit …she tried very hard to find Casey guilty. She did not say it was just easier to find her not guilty. The evidence did not fit the guilty verdict.
JENNIFER FORD, CASEY ANTHONY JUROR: I’m going to sleep just fine because I had — in this country, that’s our Constitution. I applied the law. I did the best I could. I tried to make it work. I was reaching. I was trying to, you know, like I said, if they are all three there and no medical attention is given then that’s — that’s — what’s it? Culpable negligence, failure to provide safety and medical care and things like that
According to Ashton the skull was in “the mud or dried dirt up to about the nose.” Again Ashton’s words not mine. The alternate juror stated “there were 3 pieces of duct tape stuck together, none were very big at all.” These are his words not mine. To me a 5 or 6 inch piece of duct is pretty big when you think about a child’s face. Duct tape is 2 inches wide . You can get it wider but not less than 2 inches wide .3 pieces of duct tape that big (2 x 5 or 2 x 6) would cover from the chin to the forehead and from ear to ear.
Ashton’s demonstration on how the duct tape was placed does not even agree with the size of the duct tape found near the body. He does not have anything to support this conclusion. If anyone wanted to suffocate a person, a small child,a pillow or a plastic bag would be much more logical and leave no trace of what was used. Why would anyone planning this, use duct tape easily traceable to their own garage? Logic and evidence does not support this theory. Even though I did initially believe duct tape was used to quite, not kill Caylee, it really does not make sense to me any longer. It did not fit with the jury and I have to say they did see more than I did.
As to Casey’s claim of abuse, It is not uncommon when a person is separated from their abuser that they begin to recall in more detail the abuse. There are a lot of emotional issues and dynamics that surround abuse and it’s victims. Years of silence and later recall are just some of them. I do not know if she was abused or not. She does display many of the characteristics of a victim. We may never know. Jessie Grund states he witnessed Cindy’s verbal abuse of Casey first hand. As far as Casey’s behavior with George, if they shared a secrete or many, then she would have a connection to him that no one else would share. Why would she want to see George alone or before anyone else? Well it could be because they both had common knowledge. It could also mean George knew it was an accident and was more sympatric to Casey because of that knowledge. It could mean many things, we just do not know, YET.
Everyone has stated the area was covered in water. Animals had dissembled the evidence, torn into the bags and Kronk himself admitted to lifting the skull with his meter reading tool in August than to lifting the entire bag in Dec. How can we even consider that anything was intact the way it was when this body was placed there? Everything was shifted , torn apart and weathered. At the crime scene the evidence was too disturbed and deteriorated to prove anything, unfortunately. Had LE recovered the body in Aug when it was discovered, they would have had much better evidence. This fact makes me beyond angry.
I think LFJ is right, we have is agree to disagree in this. We all do agree this is a very emotionally hard time for so many reasons, first and foremost because Caylee is lost forever.
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