This just in from WSKY 97.3’s TJ Hart – Simon
TJ Hart/Rozie Franco/FNN/CBS TV
More stunning audio is coming out from Texas EquuSearch Director Tim Miller, the man who coordinated some of the ground searches for missing 6-year-old Haleigh Cummings of Satsuma in February and who arranged for the child’s stepmother to be polygraphed and hypnotized.
Miller spoke with 97.3 The Sky’s news partner The Florida Radio Network. Rozie Franco conducted the interview and she asked Miller, ” Who is Misty Cummings’ friend, Donna Brock and what is she doing?”
Miller did not hesitate to answer.
AUDIO: Tim Miller Talks About Misty’s Gal Pal Donna Brock
Miller also stated in an earlier interview with FNN’s Rozie Franco that he, too, was told early on that Misty wasn’t at home the night Haleigh disappeared.
AUDIO: Tim Miller Talks About Misty’s Possible Whereabouts the Night of the Abduction
Misty appeared on the CBS Early Show Friday morning and started pointing fingers in the disappearance of young Haleigh. She said she feels ‘someone on the other side of the family has Haleigh.”
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where is Misty living these days? Is she still staying with Ron in Satsuma, or is she in Orlando?
It will be very interesting to find out what Mother TN and son has to say about the threesome! This gets sadder by the day!!!!
What defense are they going to use…. she’s only 17 yrs, it was the drugs, she was forced?
Could Ronnie have been into swinging, and she decided to participated WITHOUT him that night, and thats why they fought?
This is so disgusting. There was talk in Satsuma in the beginning that they had these kind of parties. I have family in Putnam County and the folks there even say that is how she scored drugs for she and Ron sometimes.. I did not listen to this talk and thought to myself no way. I totally discounted it. I just felt they were rumors. NOW, I have no choice but to believe it. This is so terrible! I guess Teresa thought this would be NO BIG DEAL either!!Teresa said that Misty was the best girlfriend Ron ever had. This whole clan is dimented!!! No wonder they are all covering things up!!!
Tim Miller….I think you are a good man and have the best of intentions, but I have to say….If you think you can put your friend Donna in Misty’s life for what 2 months, get her nails done, go to the mall, Universal, Daytona, etc and be a “mother” to Misty and that is going to undo the seventeen years of neglect and street lessons this girl has lived I think you are wasting your precious resources. I am not faulting you for trying good man….just saying….the damage to this this girl was done way too long ago to be turned around now with a little taste of the good life. Bless you and Donna for trying on Haleigh’s behalf. I assume the reason you came forward with this information now is because you have came to the same conclusion. I wonder where will this leave Misty now when/if she returns from her TV appearance in NY? Back under Ron’s wing? Poor little Haleigh!
Just like I thought.So was the trip to NY yesterday was part of Tim’s plan to get Misty to confess, too.
So part of what was said a couple of weeks ago about this woman is true. It wasn’t her husband that was associated with a well know organization it was Tim paying for all of this stuff.
I am sure PCSO, FBI and FDLE just love having someone else involve themselves knee deep in their investigation.
I guess it was Misty’s fault a grown woman was driving like a crazy woman and got stopped by the cops for “road rage”.
Pffft, indeed.
Vaquera, good point about the road rage incident, if it was for real….wasn’t there a blog here yesterday suggesting that was a set up…the supposed victim was somehow related to someone who does the filming for TES?
I am beginning to think noone in LE cares about Haleigh…is it because she is just some druggy hillbilly’s daughter and not a child of an upstanding citizen? I hope not….I admit I feel really discouraged today. :`(
Steph Watts and Donna Brock set the whole road rage incident up to get Misty to act out. As much as I detest Misty and think she is the culprit, I hope LE gets involved and investigates the felony stop a bit further.
Tim Miller has lost his mind and has no business spending his non profit donation money on Misty Cummings.
imo it makes tim and his organization look like two faced hill billy’s themselves.
now how is this going to look on tim for when he goes to find another missing person?
imo not very trust worthy.
shame on tim and this donna.
i dont care for any of the players in this mess but what is misty going to do now that she knows she is being setup.
tim keep your mouth shut if you really want to find haleigh and stop playing all these games. you are starting to act just like all those other inbreeds. jmo.
oh i forgot to add, whats this doing to help find haleigh. nothing absoulutly nothing.
and now that tim has openly admitted that donna is there to only get info from misty, what does he think misty is going to do? oh well she’s my friend. hasn’t misty been used enough by people?
i hate everything about this two faced shit going on.
the only one paying for all this is haleigh cause all everyone seems to care about is themselves and haleigh still doesnt get LOOKED for.
i’m out of here.
have a good evening folks.
Personally I believe that if you are going to interact with folks it would be a good idea to both learn and speak their own language.
Right on Tim Miller!
Of course, everyone is entitled to their own opinions; however, I’m personally trying to not be too hard on anyone who is
actually “doing something” to try and find Haleigh….even if I don’t agree with their methods.
TM does run the risk of losing contributors to TES if he loses too many people’s confidence but IMO it is his baby to build or destroy as he sees fit.
I do agree anyone who crosses the line and breaks the law regardless of their motives well….they may have to suffer those consequences.
Well hell…anybody with a lick of sense knew why a member of TES was hanging out with her.
Releasing an audio explaining why kind of BLOWS that doesn’t it?
Is Donna the reason that Misty left Ronald a couple of weeks ago? How long ago did they hatch this master plan? Why is she in FL and her husband stays in NC?
Uproad and ksue I totally agree with you two.
Does anyone remember the daniellle van Dam case? This little girl’s parents were “swingers” too and did a lot of drinking and smoked marijuana.
But it turns out the kidnapping and murder of their little girl was not from one of the friends they associated with…and there was plenty of forensic evidence to prove that she was kidnapped, raped, and murdered by their next door neighbor…someone they barely knew that the little girl only sold girl scout cookies too once.
I’m not saying that’s the ideal environment for a child. I’m just saying PCSO HAS NOT CHECKED OUT ALL THE SEX OFFENDERS IN THE AREA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just saying someone had a monitor on isn’t good enough. He could have paid someone to bring him the child, etc. etc.
I think it SUCKS that PCSO hasn’t thoroughly checked out all the SO’s nearby.
LOL, I meant Uproar.
I have to say I am really disgusted with the route TM has chosen to take. He really is doing the reputation of TES a grave injustice. How can he expect families with missing loved ones to trust TM and TES now that he has shown that he has no problem setting up family members just because HE believes they are guilty. Not all missing children are from upstanding well-to-do families and lifestyles.
I noticed that TM did not “reveal” what method Donna used to suck the family and Misty in. I wonder why. It will come out. All the truths will come out about everybody in the end.
It is appalling that the father of an abducted and murdered child, the founder of a great organization would forget what it was like to loose a child and WHY he started TES.
I think it is time for Tim to throw in the towel, hand the reins over to somebody else, and seek the help of a 12 step program, before TES’s reputation is completely shot
If she feels someone from the other side of the family has her. then who misty? you say you want haleigh home in my opinion misty knows exactly where haleigh is but im just speculating again cause there is nothing to go on no facts there is no haleigh update just news on misty ron croslin clan still not one dam word or valuable lead to where haleigh is my best friend lives in pulatka and she says same thing about that family sellin sex for drugs makes me sick turns my stomache this baby if she is alive could have very well been sold for drugs
I cannot believe what I am reading.
Tim Miller, the man who not only lost a child to a horrific crime, but who founded a wonderful organization is now knee deep in this case? People complain everyday about people inserting themselves into this case, and here Tim Miller is doing the same thing.
I used to think Tim Miller was an honorable man.
His organization does do wonderful work.
Yet, this situation is DISGUSTING. Tim Miller was supposed to SEARCH FOR HALEIGH. Tim Miller is not an investigator, and last I knew, he had not been deputized as LE.
This man befriended the Cummings family. He spent time with the family. He went to church with them. He went with them to Haleigh’s vigil. He spoke out on behalf of Ron and said “Do not judge Ron Cummings unless you have walked in his shoes” Now he is calling this same man names? How dare he? Tim Miller has done many dishonorable things himself after he lost his daughter which he willingly admits.
So Tim befriends the Cummings family, who are victims of a horrible crime and then basically exploits the family and made money off of Haleigh? He set up those tests for Misty which he made public. Donations then came pouring in, and now he says he is not going to come search. Call TES and ask them. Where is all that donation money going which was sent in Haleigh’s name? He sets up a new “friend” for Misty, something she has never had. Makes her feel comfortable, thinking what? She will confess to doing something Haleigh when all along she has maintained her innocence.
Poor Haleigh.
To: fly on the wall (3:59 p.m.)
Per this article, Misty’s attorney said Misty is living in Orlando now. Very informative article!
http://www.palatkadailynews.com/articles/2009/10/09/news/news01.txt Palatka Daily News
Palatka, FL 10-9-09 1:58 a.m. EDT
“Haleigh Cummings’ stepmother stopped after road rage report”
And haleigh deserves the truth but no one in her immediate family feels that way. they are worried about themself stealin from blind neighbors marryin now divorcin fighting goin to jail couldn this energy have been used for finding haleigh? i think these are poor excuse for people all of em and i hope one day they get whats comin to em. but it is not a haleigh update its an update on the possible purpatrators
texasgoldengirl: I agree. I don’t claim to have any idea what really happened or who’s responsible but I am – like you – totally dissatisfied with PCSO’s statement that the SO’s had been checked/cleared/whatever. Just as you say, one of them could have hired one. Some of them do belong to groups (on the net for example) and they know people like themselves.
And there are plenty of them in that area who could easily see how vulnerable little Haleigh was.
And then there is the other possibility, equally horrible, that someone – anyone – family, friend, stranger,- could have taken her and sold her. It does happen.
MAYBE local LE is not telling us everything they have and are checking up on but those are two things that I wish I knew were followed up.
Keep up the good work Tim Miller. Doesn’t look like anyone else is doing much to help. I guess at this point they should be doing anything they can to get Misty to talk. She holds the answers.
haleighsvilage@yahoo.com
over 800 supporters. Thank you
…so is this Donna Brock working undercover for TM?
Sorry I haven’t kept up today.
Hi, m2c!
I left you a comment last night shortly after 9 p.m.! It was on the thread you were on last night before you called it a night. Glad to see you are back!
Hi, Armando!
Please go to my 6:19 p.m. comment (this page) and click on the Link. (No, I am not sending you on a wild goose chase.)
According to the article…..it states former
Texas Equusearch.
Yeah armando it is being reported that misty new friend dona works for tes and is only befriending misty to get information off of her. however i do not know the truth in that or not. all i know is we are no closer to finding haleigh and the only info we got on her is this circus side show that call themselves her family
I don’t understand why anyone would be upset if Tim was putting out his own money to help get someone to say where HaLeigh is.That’s what this is all about,right?It’s about finding HaLeigh,anyway anyone can get Misty to talk.Who cares who he got to do it and how?It’s about HaLeigh,that’s it.
Yeah i agree that one of the possible theory is haleigh being sold i mean her tracks were fresh down there and it stops by the river someone could be in a boat take her to a new country and sell her as a slave and yeah people do that either that or she no longer with us someone took her by boat to take her body where it wouldn be found i dont know i just think it has to be around that river and those tracks thats where the dogs 1st picked up
I am glad that tin is lookin for haleigh i personally dont care if he is setting misty up i hope it works out for him and i wish people would quit sayin she learned grooming skills because she didnt and thats not what matters anyway its haleigh it is very discouraging to see there updates every day and not one of do has anything thats getting up closer to haleigh i have accepted the fact that no one in this case knows or will tell the truth if it bit them in the ass i dont know who is guilty or what happened but 8 months is long enough where is she what is she doin is she alive those are the answers we want not misty new hair do and their nasty divorce anyb they are slime balls screw them where is haleigh
While we all want HaLeigh found, to do so unethically is just wrong to me. To lie to the father of a missing child, to set him up, to lie about the father of a missing child, when LE has cleared that father from involvement in his child’s abduction, is just wrong, especially when it is coming from the head of a major nonprofit organization that is supposed to be dedicated to finding missing persons.
Maybe some people do not see it that way. Maybe some see the ends justifies the means, but there has to be some ethics adhered to in the handling of cases of missing children. Just like LE has to adhere to laws and standards.
We can’t just let people run amuck doing whatever they please, under the pretense of “searching” for the child.
TES has stated, and if anybody does not believe it pick up the phone and call them, they have no plans on returning to Putnam county and searching for HaLeigh. So if TM is really doing this to find HaLeigh, then why is he not planning on conducting any more searches for her?
Donations were made to aid in that search. Why is it not going to be done? Did TM decided to use those donations to buy Misty clothes and cigs just so he could suck her in and was TM saying they were going to search again just another one of his lies that he told the family and the public?
I agree and disagree another confusing twist.
I agree that this is for Haleigh and by any means do what you have to do. I’m actually glad that he is trying still. This case will kick your a^^ up and down. I’ve witnessed it personally now. So I think his will to not quit and risk it all for Haleigh is great…
…But on the other hand it’s entrapment. Because if for some reason these kids are innocent, he did just befriend the parents of a missing child. Imagine you loose your kid and everyone points the finger at u. Now imagine the one person u thought had your back, is a fake friend. That would hurt.
I’m trying other avenues, and it may not “find” Haleigh per say, but I won’t desieve any one in my process.
Idk just my opinion.
Well if you don’t like Tim Miller’s idea to give Misty a friend, then you’ll just HATE mine.
Muwahaahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrgh.
And then again on the other hand we all no misty has no education but surely she is not that dum surely she knows all people want is haleigh but he they were tryin to set them up y blow the cover? dont get that either. armando keep up good work and skywise whats your palm just curious
Tim isn’t planning on writing a book.He was just trying to get someone to tell what they know,because they’ve failed five polygraphs and LE says the person is the key to what happened to a child.KWIM
hangnon,
I agree with what you said.
I would like to take a look inside the TES books and see where all the donation money for the Haleigh searches have gone. I know that alot of money has been donated for HALEIGH after Tim made public the results of Misty’s tests. The money poured in.
I am beginning to question alot of things I did not before.
Misty said on the Early Show today that she never wanted to take a polygraph test, only hypnosis. Earlier when she first took these tests and the results were released to the media, which I found curious, Misty said Tim Miller pressured her and said he would not search for Haleigh unless she took his tests. At the time I thought that was ludicrous and he would never do such a thing. Now I am starting to believe he did just that. I think his plan was always to release her test results bringing publicity to TES so that donation money would pour in.
I wonder if Tim’s reason for setting Misty up with Donna is he wants to try to solve this case through Donna. Then they can collect the reward. Sure would help TES. They are always in need of money.
Leave the investigating to the trained investigators. We’ll leave the searching to the trained searchers.
If it were my child,I wouldn’t see taking a person to church,talking to a pastor,going to the mall or getting nails done as entrapment.I mean if you go through with getting married to get someone to tell what happened to your child,why is it a big deal to befriend someone to get them to talk?I would be thankful for anyone who came when I asked and did whatever they could to find my child.
Tim Miller did a great job. He went above and beyond his usual efforts to find a missing child. It’s a shame Misty – the last person to see Haleigh alive now knows, of course, but Donna may have successfully gathered more details from Misty.
Disgusted – I agree. Investigation should be left to the pros and searches left to those pros. I totally believe that TM set the family and Misty up to take those tests with the intent of publishing the results. Why else have a producer of documentaries present and filming while Misty was being tested. There is no other explanation for Steph to be present during the testing.
WinterRose,
I agree. You gotta get the information from a liar however you can.
Regarding entrapment: LOL, that’s probably what Misty, Neves, and Sykes wished could be said about the tests Misty failed ‘miserably’.
Interesting how they were all for it, until Misty indicated she wasn’t certain Ronald wasn’t involved.
Okay i thought tim miller was a hero for looking for this child and takin a leap of faith disgusted do you have any proof to back up your allegations maybe a link we can read so we can get the facts and decide for our self please if like to follow up on it thanks
hangnon,
Tim Miller is a professional. He has more experience than most employees of police departments around the country.
Donna Brock’s role in gathering intelligence during this operation can be compared to that of an undercover informant/investigator.
Donna Brock did a great job. Way to go, Donna!
When did Tim Miller go through the police academy? I thought Tim Miller was a searcher.
Wonder if LE is in on his grand plan to solve their case?
Disgusted – TES is a not-for-profit organization. Their books should be open for anyone to view. Not sure if they are online or not, but all non-profit’s records are supposed to be available for viewing. You could try calling next week. (Monday is a holiday). Anyone that donated money for searches, especially donated money for searches specifically for HaLeigh has a right to know where his or her money is going if TES is not going to return to the Satsuma area to search for her.
But what about Annette Sykes threatening Misty if she didn’t take the test? Isn’t that intimidation at its best? Was it Okay for Annette Sykes to intimidate Misty but not Tim Miller?
If Misty is the best Ronald ever had and was so good with the kids then why did Annette Sykes threaten her about the test? Sounds like even Annette Sykes has questions/doubts about Misty…
hangnon,
There hasn’t been any ‘running amuck” except by the child abusers in Putnam County.
If my child were missing, you can be sure I would welcome a search organization getting close to the person who last saw her, in order to gather intelligence – especially if after 7 months, as in this case, local LE failed to find her.
Donna Brock’s role in gathering intelligence during this operation can be compared to that of an undercover informant/investigator.
Donna Brock did a great job. Way to go, Donna!
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Gathering intelligence?What is she the CIA? Like what has she gathered besides committing road rage on someone? Did she gather intelligence while having Misty’s nails done or buying her clothes or taking her to Daytona or maybe on their trip to NYC.
I think likening her to an real undercover investigator is an insult to investigators everywhere.
I dont buy mistys bull shit never have think she is a liar and if mother teresa sayin misty is best ron had them she doesnt have high hopes for her son meeting an up standing individual. and misty states she is not worried about getting arrested cause you know haleigh gone or sold or whatever and you think it wont come back on you news flash you are a suspect dum ass thats y u gotta check with le b4 you leave on your spotlight sprees
What evidence has Donna gathered from Misty that is case breaking? If any thing her cover has just been blown.
Well,none of us really know who all is involved with Donna and Tim trying to get Misty to talk.For all we know,Teresa could be part of this plan,she did leave that voicemail for Tim to hurry and get Misty to the interviews and polygraphs after she asked Tim to come and help.How do we know that Teresa and LE is not part of this plan?Teresa is more a mother to HaLeigh than anyone and I know she would do anything to get HaLeigh back.So,no sense in arguing when Tim had met with Ron and Teresa without Misty there.
Whereishaleigh,
Just more proof of Misty’s many lies. Sykes demanded she take the polygraph, but when results indicated Misty was not sure that Ronald was not involved, Misty cried to the media that Tim Miller ‘tricked’ her.
Now today, she overrides her former claims by saying she only wanted a hypnosis, not a polygraph.
No one held a gun to her; she took the polygraph of her own free will, even though Sykes demanded it, and Ronald persuaded her to do so after she tried to back out at the last minute.
nance, do you personally know Donna Brock?
If it were my child putnam county would be tore up especially after 8 months they would have to get a goverment grant to fix it back i would be in the streets goin door to door holdin conferences i would be @ le office every day i dont know what they are holdin back all you can see is this torn up family thats not worried about haleigh they worried bout clearin their own selves
J,
Is LE ‘in on’ anyone’s grand plan to solve the case?
Does Teresa Neves have a plan to solve the case? Do you think Teresa Neves has tried to manipulate Misty into telling the truth?
Tim Miller and Donna Brock planned to gain more information, in order to find a child whom was left in the care of Misty Croslin.
They aren’t the only ones with a plan: every talk show that has interviewed Misty has a plan to gain more information from her.
No one has to ask LE for permission to be-friend Misty, or ask her questions.
upRoar,
I do not personally know Donna Brock, do you?
Well,even Ron is getting a divorce because Misty won’t tell what she knows.Anyone would do anything at this point to get Misty to tell what she knows.LE says she is the key to what happened.They want to talk to her,everyone wants information from her.Thousands of people are waiting for information from her.What price a child?Accusing a man of everything that is being said here,is wicked after all Tim has done through the years for missing people’s families.This isn’t about anything Tim has done wrong,this is about people trying to defend thier side of who they defend on forums.This isn’t about who is right and who is wrong,this is about finding HaLeigh.She has got lost in all the taking sides,bottom line.
Vaquera,
Not saying this is how it happenned, but imagine for a moment that Misty revealed to Donna anger about a person ‘from Massachusetts’.
Playing her ‘role’, she lets Misty act like, well – Misty, when Misty is suspicious of a car with Massachusetts plates and a driver who resembles a person Misty would like to ‘get rid of’, for reasons relating to Haleigh.
Winterrose,
You’re so right – it is about finding Haleigh, but LE knows Misty is not being truthful – she is inconsistent, they say, which is a polite way of saying that MISTY IS LIEING.
Why they feel the need to be polite about it is beyond me. She certainly is not polite when she tries to implicate others, including her own brother, and Haleigh’s mother.
hangnon,
You accuse Tim of unethical methods to get information from Misty?
Tim didn’t say Donna waterboarded Misty, he said she took her shopping at the mall, paid to have her nails done; treated her like her daughter.
Ash berry,
You said it well – “It’s all about clearing themselves”.
I believe Putnam County really would need a grant to fix itself up after you got done with it!
Twenty bucks says there never was any signed affidavit from someone claiming a party took place that night – it’s not against the law for LE to lie during an interview. In fact, they use lies as a tool to get to the truth.
Their tactic did not work because there have been no arrests. They were grasping at straws when interviewing Nay Nay.
It doesn’t make any sense to me, that TM & Company would befriend Misty and then announce it unless something was about to backfire in their faces. I think Ron is in on this with Tim Miller but what Tim Miller missed is that Ron is still on Misty’s side.
They will be back together and this case will go cold.
I hope I’m wrong, but this case is about to go cold.
Random, I hope you are wrong but what you say makes sense. Why did Tim do that? 1st it is sad to me that NO ONE in Mistys life seems to have any integrity. Who could she possibly trust? If she is innocent look how much more she
has been screwed up from this. 2nd what does he
think this has helped? He exposed his own deceit, why???
Interesting comments from Tim Miller, but why is he blowing Donna Brock’s cover!!?!
OK, so a source states that Misty was partying that night. Attn: Tim Miller: Did this source mention whether Haleigh & Junior were with Misty at this party or not? The answer to this question is key as it indicates whether Haleigh ‘vanished’ at Misty’s hands, or those of a local pedophile who crept into the unlocked trailer while Misty was out. Ron Cummings stated clearly in a Greta V.S. interview that Misty did not have keys his home, so obviously Misty had to leave the home unlocked when she went out to party.
Well, looks like Misty lost another friend
http://www.staugustine.com/stories/101009/news_2072176.shtml
attorney resigns
LisaE – I also couldn’t figure out why Tim Miller would blow Donna’s cover.
I guess he picked her because she seems like an uncivilized druggie, and what better way to put Misty at ease than someone who is like the people who have always surrounded her.
I think Tim had a great idea, however, he’s really taking a huge risk legally by paying for Donna’s expenses. If she’d gotten in an accident during her rage incident, and it appeared she were working for Tim, he would be liable for damages.
Everyone seems to be blaming this road rage incident on Misty but she was only a passenger. Yes she is probably guilty of supporting her new friend and flipping off the victim, but the blame lies on the driver, Donna.
LisaE said: Interesting comments from Tim Miller, but why is he blowing Donna Brock’s cover!!?!
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Exactly. I don’t get it either. Epic fail.
I’m counting more than one source putting NayNay, Misty, WBG at this party.
People hear the word “party” & they think oodles of people, but this was a Monday night and NayNay’s letter only mentions 4(NayNay, Misty, WBG & Chad)
-We’ve got video of Misty crying on the couch (quote):
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0910/01/ng.01.html
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Why would someone want to do this? I mean, do you think there`s any reason they`d want to do this to you or to your boyfriend?
CROSLIN: I don`t know, I mean, we`re good people. We don`t — you know? We don`t really have friends, you know? I really don`t know a lot of people in Palatka. I know a couple of girls, you know? They`re not my friends. They`re just someone, you know, that`s there. I hang out when with them when I need to get away. And I know I shouldn`t hang out with them, but you know, sometimes I just need a break.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes.
CROSLIN: And I go hang out with them, but not no more.
-We’ve got video of NayNay distancing herself from the trunk, among other little juicy tidbits of info. Misty telling her the phones are tapped, etc.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1I6zOihOTw
-We’ve got WBG talking about how he wants to be forgiven for his involvement, even tho he had none. (fast forward to 3:59)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVkAPOfXZKQ
This isn’t rocket science.
Honestly, I could care less about following Misty around. What’s up with this Chad guy? …Is Chad still missing?
arrgh…COULDN’T care less. COULD NOT CARE LESS about a Misty confession.
I don’t think that the Chad that’s missing is the right one. I think the Chad in question is an older guy (50’s), handicapped. I don’t think it’s Crystal’s stepfather (or whatever he is…boyfriend) either (can’t see Misty hanging out with him). Does anybody know who this other Chad is?
Vaquera, UpRoar, Ksue and others….you’ve already expressed how I feel about this much better than I could have.
Sadly, I think Tim needs to get himself back to AA stat. His recent behaviour has come across as vindictive, childish, unhelpful, self promoting, irresponsible, selfish etc.
When did he start to think he was qualified to try to conduct sting operations in serious criminal matters involving missing children?? He’s not undercover FBI…jeez…he ought to stick to his job, searching for people, and not try to be a pretend Cobra/Padilla. It sounds to me like his judgment is being seriously affected by the booze, and I hope that if he has any true friends, they do the right thing and try to get him back into AA.
We all love Tim and we need him to be sober and well to do what he does best, look for children…not to trash a missing child’s family on radio like he did today and talk about 3somes etc…..so unprofessional and disappointing.
In addition to the $60k+ a year he pays himself from TES, do we know if he pockets the Nancy Grace appearance money for himself?
I hope LE give him a very stern talking to re interfering with their investigation.
Nance you do not know what methods and means Donna used to get the family to trust her after they lost trust in TM. They spent time at her home. She spent time at their home. She befriended the family, including Jr, not just Misty, and did so deceitfully.
You may not have an issue with TM’s lack of ethics, but I do. Just as I have an issue with the lack of ethics with many others that have inserted themselves into this case.
Wrong is wrong. If TM really was interested in finding HaLeigh why has he not done another search? Why is he instead playing games with the family?
TM knew that Ron and the family could no longer trust him so he used Donna. It is wrong. It is unethical. TM is not an investigator. TES is not a PI organization. Donations are made to TES to search for missing persons not investigate cases.
Now CBS is saying that there are 2 parts to the Misty interview and that the second segment will air Monday ALONG with Ronald commenting on whatever Misty has said. Jeez.
I have to say that I am puzzled and concerned by Tim’s latest activities.
I can only think that maybe Tim is convinced that the key to finding Haleigh lies more with finding out what Misty knows than with another very likely fruitless ground search of any number of huge areas. I mean where is another search like that supposed to start or end? From Satsuma east to the ocean or west to Tennessee or Kentucky or north to Massachusetts or beyond?
It’s nice to think about another traditional TES search but what are the chances? Especially with no more info, tips, clues etc than they had before (as far as I know) ?
Marie, thank you for that info. Now CBS IS turning this into a real soap opera! “Tune in Monday for Ron’s BS retort!” Like these people (Ron or Misty) are going to let slip some real info for the first time? Geesh.
It is 8 month’s!My God where is Haleigh! This just gets more and more bizarre! What are Misty and Ron working on,to be tv stars?
hangnon,
Tim doesn’t lack ethics, he simply leveled the playing field. His objective was to get the truth from an extremely unethical, deceptive, game-playing punk.
Searching for a missing child is investigatory work, whether on horseback, in a car, or on foot. Contrary to what you wish to believe – Tim Miller and members of his organization use their investigative skills to find missing children and adults.
Misty’s attorney dumped her on Friday because she lied to him about going to NY.
Yes, Misty lied at least twice on Thursday. First, when she told attorney Fields she would not go to NY, per his advice, and again when she told a news reporter at the airport that she was not taking a flight to NY.
Misty tells so many lies, how could anybody trust her?
I am shocked at the negative comments against Tim Miller.
I don’t know Haleigh, but I care for her because she has suffered such a tragedy.
I ask those of you who have made negative comments to imagine, just for a moment, what would you do? If eight months had gone by and you still had no answers would you be so judgmental? If you loved your child and cried yourself to sleep every night not knowing if she was dead or alive, what would you do? Would you appreciate someone that was willing to do whatever they could to help find your child? I would.
I hope Tim Miller never reads this blog. I hope that no one on this blog never needs his services. But, you know what? I would bet that even if Tim Miller read these negative comments and one day your child was missing and you asked for his help, he would be there for your child too.
Please understand that this case is extremely difficult to solve.
Please appreciate the ones that are doing everything they can, even if you do not understand their tactics, to find out what happened to this innocent child.
Linda,
Misty finger points, blaming others for her actions, and would love for you and everyone else to blame Donna Brock.
Poor Misty, just 17 years old and her family would betray her, and she doesn’t know, and she’s not going to NY, and she woke up to get a drink, and she woke up to go the bathroom, and it said 3, that’s all she saw, and she was cleaning, and Joe probably did it, and Tommy probably did it, and Cobra probably did it, and the other side of the family probably did it, and Tim Miller made her do it, and now she’s got you saying that Donna made her do it?
Misty’s attorney dumped her on Friday because she lied to him.
Who will be the first to insult Field’s, the pro-bono attorney who dumped Misty because she lied?
The only thing i can figure is tim miller blew donna cover to show misty that no one cases about her and we think she is a liar her fam is gone mom standin by tommy ron wants divorce and teresa will stand by him so she is getting wat she deserves nothing but kids fake friends you ever heard that sayin you dont have to lie to make friends well misty does and the friends she have want the truth and yes nance if it were one of my kids putnam would be tore up looking i guess we all have different ethics
imo tim just needs to be a bit more descreet,he’s talking 2 much as do most in this case…EXCEPT MISTY & RON.
DISGUSTED said,in October 9th, 2009 at 8:43 pm hangnon,
I agree with what you said.
TO DISGUSTED AND HANGON< It’s none of your business what TM is doing. Why you both think it’s TM job to report to you is CRAZY. You both don’t run the show. You can spew all you want but it sure shows your ignorance. Maybe it would be best for both of you to get up from that chair and walk outside and shake it off. When LE needs your help I’m sure they know where to find you. Have a nice day.
To TM, You do great work and you are an honorable man. Don’t let people who talk through their butt effect you in any way. I think it’s funny that people that don’t know you can sit at their computer ( while you are out searching night and day)and write bad things about you. Keep up the great work and I will continue to support you.
Update:
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=146451&catid=3
FCN13 Orlando, Fl. 10-10-09
Updated: 11:03 a.m. EDT
“Lawyer Drops Misty Cummings as Client”
Some people simply don’t have a life. These people are beyond anything I have ever seen or heard in my entire life. So evil.
Thank you to all the people who try to help find this child, especially TIM MILLER. God is saving a special place for him, for all the things he does to TRY to help people. Some people simply don’t want help and just waste his time when he could be helping someone that wants his help. GOD bless Tim Miller and all the others that try to help. My prayers are with you.
I think anyone who searches for haleigh and other missing children deserve our up most respect! no one else is tryin to find her no matter the tactics
klynn, TM is NOT LE and yes when you operate a non profit organization funded by donations you do have obligations and responsibilites to how that is handled and how the money is spent & accounted for.
Disgusted, Hangnon, you both have good questions and great food for thought. There are many
players lacking good judgment and character.
I am also grateful for the good TM does, but this to me has crossed the line.
Tim needs to stop hanging out with people like Donna, who encourages his drinking. I agree. He needs to get back to AA. He is a man with a huge heart and carries the burden of all missing people that he searches for. That would be enough to drive anyone to drink. But he is strong and needs to get back on the wagon before LE across the country stops involving his organization in searches.
Ohno,
How many email addresses do you have anyway? 😉 Treece,
TM was asked to come and help.
I agree TM was ask to help with the search. BUT who ask him to hire a woman to “mother” and deceive Misty? What is ethical about this? What did it accomplish? What I can see it accomplishing, is hurting Misty and hardening her, causing her to TRUST NO ONE and CONFIDE in NO ONE and tell NO ONE anything she knows. Misty has never had a “mother” she could trust, and doubtfully any “adult” that she could trust either. NO WONDER Misty is like she is. And if there was any room for this to help TM shot himself in the foot telling what he has done. JMO Treece
Sorry WinterRose, I don’t understand your question. Can you be more specific on the email addresses?
hmmmm…..
Misty’s lawyer has fired her.
Misty’s new found Sugar Mommy was a reported set up.
Misty’s Husband wants a divorce.
Misty’s family are either alienated from her or in jail.
Misty’s party friends are either in jail or MIA.
Where does Misty go now?
This poster thinks there is a comfy cot waiting with her name on it. Seems as though now is the time for LE to have another chat with Miss Misty. But that’s just me.
nance, Misty is NOT to blame for what a 40+ year old DRIVER of a car did. Your friend, or double, Courtney stated that the DRIVER was hanging out the window from the waist up, waving both hands, threatening ….etc while drivng 65-80 miles an hour for 30 minutes but only went about 10 miles.
NOW you obviously believe that story is possible, I DON’T.
But regardless, if the super hero, driver, was able to do all that it was the DRIVER.
Misty is only responsible for what MISTY does and NONE of us know what her true involvement with Haleigh’s disappearance really is. I am
not saying Misty is innocent here I am just saying WE DON”T KNOW.
What is your hate for Misty??
What is your attachment to Courtney??
To Tim Miller:
So many in Texas, where I am from, appreciate your hard work and efforts you have put forth in many cases.
In the Houston and surrounding areas, you and volunteers have done a tremendous job of searching and finding missing persons. I am well aware of how highly you are regarded and the good relationship you have with LE in Texas.
In fact, you are so highly regarded, our local TV stations feature you and your efforts when there is a missing person in Houston and surrounding areas.
I have friends (at their own expense) that have volunteered in searches conducted by you. It can be grueling, in Texas, during the hot, very humid weather! My friends have told me it is a rewarding experience because they physically went out and searched….especially when the missing person was found.
Many people may not know that you get numerous requests from families all over the U. S. and unfortunately, you have to decline because you can not be everywhere! We, in Texas, understand the pain and hurt you feel when you have to decline.
Many people do not understand what may be going on “behind the scenes” and an angle you are working with LE.
You know, Tim, some of the people in Florida have treated you very badly. They don’t realize the expense in doing a search especially when you have to bring equipment and experienced volunteers from Texas! If I were you, I would think twice before I get involved in a Florida case again. It appears you are getting burned a second time. Go where you are needed, wanted and APPRECIATED! Your expertise in searches is too valuable to be wasted on unappreciated situations.
For those who may not be familiar with the magnitude of Texas Equusearch, here is a Link that you might find informative:
http://texasequusearch.org/
Texas Equusearch – Mounted Search and Recovery Team
Tim, once again, I thank you from the great state of Texas!
It’s not your business treece what tm is doing unless he called u to get permission. You don’t know who actually thought this up. Maybe u need to write to tm before u jump the gun. If you end up being right I’ll be the first to tell u congrats. I just don’t think it’s right to smear his name. Remember innocent until provenn guilty.
katfish, you may be right. This might be the perfect time to press in on Misty. But what if: Misty is not talking from FEAR, Misty is innocent in harming Haleigh but is AFRAID to tell what she knows. IF that is the case here, who has instilled anything in her to trust. I am an old mom who has not intentionally hurt any kid BUT if I was young, had been through Misty’s life and now have been deceived by every “adult” in this puzzle would I talk? Crack under pressure? Hell no, because the very fear that has driven me to be quiet in the first place is now rooted and grown because everyone has deceived, set up, manipulated or already turned on me. Maybe I am just missing something here but this isn’t even smart detective work to me. JMO Treece
Treece, who gave you the blog badge? You have no right to state facts when u have none. All of you attacking tm should be ashamed. U don’t know where the money came from. I can’t say where if did either.
klynn, I lived in Tx for 20+ years and my husband is a Texan. I have had a huge respect for TM and defended him on many occasions. I agree with you that he has done a lot of great, self sacrificing work with a huge success rate.
I think he should be recognized for that but I also have seen a change in him recently. BUT my
point was that IF you are going to run a NON PROFIT organization you do have responsibility to your donors what is done with that money. A non profit also has legal guidelines to follow. SO to some degree “THE PUBLIC” does have the right to know, it is their business.
I sincerely agree TM has done alot of good but my opinion of this deception was over the line. I respect your opinion to disagree with me. Thanks Klynn & have a good Saturday.
haleighsvillage@yahoo.com
almost a 1,000 strong now.
Thank u for supporting.
Headed cross crountry. I’ll try to update on the road.
Treece
I agree with ur last comment! Well said
I think Tim needs help. His behavior’s strange to say the least
I am so tired of seeing Misty all over the TV. She’s getting way too much sucking up ( I can tell she loves it) Why don’t they put a picture of Halleigh up while she’s spewing out her lies?
I wish the Putnam police would put her in a cage & break her
Nance – Re your post:
“Joe probably did it, and Tommy probably did it, and Cobra probably did it, and the other side of the family probably did it, and Tim Miller made her do it, and now she’s got you saying that Donna made her do it?”
Huh??? I’m not sure how you arrived at all the above. I simply said regarding the road rage incident that although Misty is probably guilty of flipping the victim off, she was only the passenger and the driver, Donna is responsible. I’m not sure why you are confused when my comment was obviously about the road rage incident.
Everybody that is critizing Tim, get off your @ss and do something!! When Tim does a search are you going to have your lazy @sses there? I bet not, you will be sitting behind your keyboard critizing anything you can. Also, Tim is paying for this out of his OWN POCKET!!! It looks like the same people were all over Cobra also. These two men have spent their own money and sweat to FIND HALEIGH!!
How would you know if Tim spent money from his own pocket?
Just to get this off of my chest….I am from Savannah and have followed this case from day 1. I even told my fiance that we were going to look for HaLeigh. I KNOW Misty’s type. I was 17 and pregnant and unmarried. I struggled for years with having my electricity cut off because the choice was food for my daughter or the electric bill. I lived in a tralier where if something broke I learned to live with it because there wasn’t money to fix it. I grew up around people just like these. (Not family but friends) The only thing they think off is themselves.
It’s amazing in this world how much people only think of themselves. PLEASE think to the last week and how many times someone you love has asked you to do something but YOU wanted to do something else and did just that. Magnify that by 1000 and meet the Croslins/Cummings.
There isn’t going to be a single person in the cast of characters that spills anything because right now it is the survival of the fittest. This should be now known as the “cover your ass” case.
I do feel Ronald knows something, Misty knows everything and Crystal knows nothing.
I would probably cut off my pinky toe to have 30 mins in a room with Misty to get the truth out of her.
PLEASE everyone…..people doing SOMETHING is better than the people doing nothing!
nance said,
in October 10th, 2009 at 8:13 am
Who will be the first to insult Field’s, the pro-bono attorney who dumped Misty because she lied?
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Not me,I don’t blame him. If you are not going to follow the advice of your attorney he has every right to drop them.
I wonder if Donna will make sure she gets one since she is now her “mother figure”?
Also…as a parent…I think I focus on these cases because I am utterly terrified of something that could happen to my child. I am not making this up at all but my focus on this case has made me look at my own child and chastisr=e her for stuff that I dream about. Is it bad when your 14 year old looks at you and says “no more cnn for you” because you give her crap for the dream you woke up shaking from?
This story is tragic and the main victims here are Haleigh, Ron Jr and Ambers baby.
I impore everyone to look at their own communities and see what they can do to cause change.
We all want justice for Haleigh – there is zero doubt about it. I think the fact that Misty is a very uneducated and negclected CHILD who is playing the LE right now enrages us all. That is the reason we are reading this.
To Vaquera (1:39 pm):
I agree with you about the attorney. This is not the first time he advised Misty not to do something and she ignored him. I suspect he was pro bono and if so, he certainly does not need Misty and her lies. It was a very stupid thing for her to make a TV appearance (on her part) but great for LE (PCSO, FDLE and FBI)!
In my opinion, the more the players talk, they will eventually slip up. When arrests are made, at some point and time, what they said will come back to bite them! Ouch!
IMO, Ron, Misty, Teresa, etc. think they are outsmarting LE but they are not. They remind me of the Anthony’s who thought they were above the law. Per the document dumps (evidence), LE was on to them and now their house of cards is crumbling!
Everybody is acting like this was some covert secret operation. LOL Misty was not tricked into anything, she knew who Donna was.
Second, TES and any non-profit org. has their books open. TES does not mishandle funds. Leonard’s rumor was a joke, but the joke was on him. Judith McNaught/Board of Directors for TES was at both Caylee searches writing the checks for TES. So, I guess Leonard is calling her a theif. BNN does book reviews, so they should know who she is.
Marie,
Thank-you.
News flash people…Tim is/was doing the same thing in the Natalie Halloway case. In NC he offered a girl cold hard cash just to fess up where a body is but she wouldn’t budge. He does what he does to get the result he wants.
As for where your money is going? I wouldn’t worry about the money that was going to Misty and Donna. I would look more at the bar tabs that they (Tim and Lisa) check out of the hotels with or maybe the porn that is charged to the room of the one of the core searchers – all during the Caylee searches. If you wonder why you don’t get to see those financial records…that’s what. I’m just sayin…
Vaquera,
You’re right – no need for an attorney if you’re not going to heed his or her advice.
Misty took it a step further. He advised she not go to NY for the morning news show, and she told him she would not.
Been there,
No wild accusations without proof, please.
Marie (1:42 pm): You are right. This is a very tragic incident. The victim is Haleigh and Jr. and Abmer’s child live among the drugs, etc. (according to the media). I am appalled that CPS has not removed Jr. from the Cummings home.
I am following the Emma Thompson Case (Texas). Emma is a 4 year old child who was brutally beaten and sexually assualted. Within 12 to 24 hours of her injuries, she died. Her mother, a Registered Nurse, tried to super glue Emma’s skull together before seeking medical care. The case is still under investigation but the mother and her boyfriend have been charged with injury to a child. Our hope is the charges are upgraded to murder as the investigation continues. About 3 weeks before Emma’s death, she was diagnosed with STD – Genital Herpes of the mouth, hands and gential area.
CPS -TX did not remove her from the home because the mother lied to CPS and stated no male was living in her home.
Because of the outrage displayed by many Texans, CPS was investigated regarding Emma’s death and within weeks, new policies were enacted.
Currently, CPS – Houston is under investigation, the report is expected by the end of this month. It will go to our governor, Rick Perry. It is expected our lesislators will enact laws to further protect the children of Texas and enact laws to deter abuse, molesting, murder, etc, of children in Texas.
I am an active advocate for child and elderly abuse. Also, I am an advocate for animal abuse. I have worked closely with some of our state legislators and I can honestly say….they listen!
So, let your voice be heard and write or call your state legislators. I have never had to take an issue to the Governor’s office because I got results at the level I approached!
To liberty:
Please see my comment time dated and stamped
10-10-09 11:02 am. Thanks!
Typo in the fourth paragraph of my comment (2:31 pm)…..legislators not lesislators. Sorry!
Been There Done That said,
What,are you doing covert operations in TES’ hotel rooms?Or are you just making up rumors,hoping they will spread?Sounds to me like an agenda and creating rumors to throw TM under,go figure.
Treece,I think your heart is in the right place and I respect your and everyone else’s right to their own opinion.
I personally don’t think Misty is afraid to tell what happened for any reason other than to keep her own butt out of jail. She was all the way in NY this week…far from all the thugs in her life…she could have contacted the FBI, had CBS help her, or even her own lawyer….at that point she still thought she had the control….a sugar momma who dropped her at the airport and a lawyer who stayed with her when she went against his wishes before.
Marie, Thanks for sharing your wisdom from real life experience in the school of hardknocks.
I’m praying for the truth to come out about Haleigh soon WHATEVER that may be.
TIM MILLER thank you for all you do. Ignore the critisizm. Thank you for trying to get to the truth for Haliegh.
Been there done that, Why are you trying to discredit Tim, you have something to hide or you don’t want something to come out? You clearly do not know what you are talking about. You certainly do not know anything about the Natalie Holloway case.
liberty says (2:10pm):
Second, TES and any non-profit org. has their books open. TES does not mishandle funds.
TES is a non-profit org and their books should be open to the public per the law. Try and call TES and get a look at their books. You’ll hit a brick wall. TES does not want to open the books to anyone. Don’t believe me? Call yourself.
Attorney Fields should not receive any grief for his decision to no longer represent Misty. When a client will not listen to his attorney there is no point in having representation. The attorney looks stupid. Misty should find herself new representation. Whether she is innocent or guilty she has rights that should be protected.
Today is 8 months since Haleigh has been missing. WHERE IS HALEIGH CUMMINGS?
I was there in the hotel when Odie did what he did and the bill for the rooms was received. (See Brett Churchill) I was there when Murt uncovered it all (the drinking) and Tim threw his underage bartender (V) under the bus…right after Murt got strong armed into leaving. Financial records are open…right? Go find those hotel bills from the second Caylee search. Proof is in the pudding.
As for Natalie and the NC girl…those came straight from Tim’s mouth to my ears. My point is this isn’t the fist time he’s using whatever tactic he can to get find the victim. I can’t say I fault him for it. Just don’t go thinking this is a first for TES.
I do agree with most everyone here tim does an awesome job with missing children and we all know misty lies but the fact of the matter is we will not know what happened to haleigh until the person responsible opens their mouth and tell the truth considering the people involved thats not very likely which is sad its not a case of searching who knows where to look where to go who to talk to only the person that committed this knows and thats not goin to change whether tim has a drinking problem i dont think you should manipulate an already difficult situation however i think the people involved are in a desperate state and are trying everything they can whether we think its wrong or not i do have respect for everyone looking for haleigh and respect you all to even with our different thoughts we care about haleigh and thats alot to be proud of
LOL,My God in Heaven,you’re a Murtie,yeah,well now I totally believe your every word.Pffttt! So,searchers are looking for a child and the big “conspiracy” is a movie in a hotel room and a bartender?Alrighty then,so are we looking going to get into Murt and the Cayley case?Do you really wannna go there?Wasn’t he lurking around Putnam for awhile?
Brilliant…if I was a murtie don’t you think I would have been watching his silly website and not in the heart of the command center for all searches? Yeah…that’s it!
And i am a parent as well and this case in particular can scare the shit out of a parent think about it there is a missing little girl and noone will open there mouth some say misty is scared to say if she knows anything someone needs to grow some balls and stand up for haleigh who is imho to hurt you not like they are goin to track you down and kill you and he they did wouldn you want to die savin the life of a child you love? i think we would do about anything but its the truth these people are ME people out for themselves and thats sad no we cant x who is guilty but look at the faces they are not cryin for haleigh they are cryin over what might happen to them it makes my stomache turn that they wont stay off tv they are just goin on to feed us more lies dont know bout v guys but misty and none of the rest insult my intelligence they are all liars!
Ofcourse you are,dear.
Seems to me this case is becoming a soap opera and planning out movies i dont know about that rest of you but that is exploiting haleigh and giving her family more media attention she should be the only thing that is important right now i dont know what le is doing or the evidence they have i keep getting reassured they know what they are doing but i an really not so sure there is not any cold hard facts in this case i want a haleigh update not ron misty crystal teresa lire tommy i dont care about them and what they are doing in their life heres hope tomorrow show will be a true update on haleigh
Been there done that, you just answered everyone’s question. MURT.
Justice, you rock!!! I am also in the Houston area.
Sometimes things are not the way they seem.
When I travelled extensively for some of the companies I was employed by, I was on an expense account. Once a month, expenses had to be turned in with all receipts on the company’s expense account form and in accordance with their policy regarding expense reimbursement.
On the form, there was a place to deduct personal expenses. For example, if I stayed at a hotel for a week and I had a manicure and charged it to my hotel bill. The manicure is a personal expense and I had to deduct it. If not, it would have been deducted by the Accounting Dept. The policy of deducting all personal expenses applied to everyone entitled to an expense account…..from the CEO and/or President on down!
I certainly would not want to comment on a person’s expenses because I would not be privileged to know the policy, guidelines and how personal expenses are ultimately handled. For example, when I worked for a company, the Accounting Dept. did not disclose information to me about another employee’s expense account.
To Justice,
Well said.
I was referring to Justice’s 1:58 pm post:
Well said!
i always apprecte rding everyones differnt pnts of view. (i didn’t finish rd all posts yet)
i would like to thank tim miller and team. thank you, thank you, thank you!!!
so darn what(!) if tm & eq falsley befriended the cummgs, pple who may have information the police need. tough!!! m.c. and r.c., they are grown ups, they can take it. all i know is these two AT LEAST muddied the waters. and both exposd hc & jr. to people with really messed up lives.
m.c. and r.c. chose to be together so he could have blt in sex ty that babysits. she wanted a family of her own, and apperntly thought ron wld give tht to her. (hmmm, i don’t blve he supprts one of his kids alrdy. and neither does his famly acknwldge that little boy do they? yes i know he nevr took tst, so i guess that makes it okay. but, wasn’t amber lvg w/ ron at tme of prgncy? so it gd chance it is his son. even if they don’t want to make it legal he still cld cntrbt to childs life somehow. does tn or ggsks help?)
my heart actually aches for misty and ronald! it aches for all of haleigh’s family.
art harris said misty didn’t really live in cars growing up. even if his info is correct, we all seem to belve that she did not have the kind of childhd we want any child to have. certainly not one that prepred her for a gd life. (esp. edctn, and esp hvg clear thkg parents. h.c.sr. sd smthg abt ron being able to keep a bettr eye on misty. grt reason hank to let her marry ron. ewww!) but misty is resonponsible for telling the police the WHOLE truth. and so is ron. this is about a little girls life. even if haleigh died that night, haleigh still deserves to be brt home to her family!
Hey, Liberty, glad to hear you are a Texan!
Regarding Tim Miller….you know how so many Texans and especially folks in Houston and the surrounding areas appreciate and respect him. I assume you have seen him on the Houston TV stations many times as well as articles in the Houston Chronicle regarding searches in the Houston area! It is so wonderful Tim has channeled his grief, for his daughter, into an effort to assist in locating missing persons.
Liberty, are you keeping up with the Emma Thompson Case? I am working with several local media sources (outside of Houston) in keeping the focus on this case. I have been very successful in this endeavor.
Also, because this was such a brutal, horrific crime against Emma, I am working with my state legislator regarding legislation which I hope will be introduced in the next legislative session in Austin.
The CPS investigation is wonderful and I can hardly wait until it is concluded and the report is submitted to Gov. Perry. As a result of Emma’s brutal murder and the two other children that were murdered within weeks of Emma, things are happening quickly regarding CPS – Tx.
I want to add I do NOT get paid for my efforts and I am NOT a paid lobbyist or advocate.
To alethea (3:56 p.m.)
You welcome!
Regarding the Haleigh Cummings Case, it is only a matter of time. It is not….IF….it is WHEN the cards for all the players start crumbling down! Arrests will be made and justice will be served!
Will be back later…..have guests coming for dinner and they will be here shortly. I’ve been trying to cook dinner and comment on this board off and on. Now I need to go before I burn dinner!!! LOL
I would like to say I have the utmost respect for all who are trying to keep this case on the front burner, Jan, Simon, Cobra, TJ and the majority of the bloggers here. Just maybe one of these theories or opinions might be the one that brings this case to a close.
Armando is working hard to help. I don’t care if some think he is just trying to get himself in the spotlight or not. It doesn’t matter as long as Haleigh’s name is being put out there. It made me feel good just to be able to participate in some small way.
A special thanks to Tim Miller for doing whatever he has to do to try and get a break in this case. In this situation, all is fair and anything goes as far as I’m concerned. I don’t know if he has a drinking problem or not. It still has nothing to do with him trying to get information on Haleigh’s whereabouts.
I’m still praying for Haleigh every day and hoping each day she will be found.
I’m sorry if I left anyone out while trying to show my appreciation.
Let’s bring her home soon.
Justice: i am sorry to hear about emma. that is so sad it makes your heart stop i hope you will keep us posted on what happens to her mom as we all need to spread awareness hope you dont burn dinner! storm: armando is doin an awesome job keepin haleigh name out there anyone who sticks their neck out for a child is an awesome person hope a break comes soon so haleigh can be home for holidays
In regards to the post that was left about Tim and the Hotel.
“I was there when Murt uncovered it all (the drinking) and Tim threw his underage bartender (V) under the bus”
I have to honestly say that I do not have a clue as to what this is about. I did not uncover any drinking problems in regards to TES Tim Miller or anyone else during their stay in Orlando.
Rumors were flying around back then like bats in the night back then.
I have only the highest regards for Tim Miller and his volunteers.
Any misunderstandings that occurred back then have long been cleared up.
Please correct this post or at least tell me what gave you the impression I uncovered any irregularities on Tim’s or his group’s part.
MURT
Misty has left her attorney out before. I think he has repeatedly told her not to talk about the case with media or LE without him. He even told LE they should not be talking to her without him. But Misty went at least 2 times & talked to LE without him. This was before she went to NY against his advice. I don’t blame him for dropping her case. jbob
Murt, TM has had a heavy drinking problem for years and it has gotten worse in the past 12 months. He does not act like the man he once was. He gets drunk all the time and flys off the handle for no reason. All the key people – Mandy Albritton, Sean Henady, Caroline Todd, David Lohr, Barbie Tarr, etc. – have all left. Is this a coincidence? I think not. So I wonder, who pays for all the partying and “under cover” work? Also, does anyone every wonder why TM has a wife in Texas and a GF who travels with him…
just a sampling of what was said in 2005 during natalee’s case
I feel Texas equusearch makes Tim Miller feel important and needed. Texas
Equusearch is a wonderful organization and provides a greatservice. BUT!!!!….Tim Miller needs to learn where to draw the line. He is not an FBI agentor an investigator. He is not either..and needs to only search those areas of interest provided by the FBI or those with authority..and not go off on some witch hunt or agenda of his own.
In this case he has clearly crossed the line.
Posted by:
PinkCobrazz |
Monday, August 01, 2005 at 07:39 PM
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Someone
needs to put Miller back in his room at the psychiatric ward. Risking
diver’s lives looking for a “box” at the bottom of the sea. Because
some psychic told him that Natalee was talking to her from inside the
box. That’s when I knew miller was wacked. Planning Natalee’s funeral –
that was another bizarre incident. Makes for a good TV show to have
nuts like him and Jossy on.
Posted by:
letsbefair |
Monday, August 01, 2005 at 08:14 P
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I gave money to Texas EquuSearch. I thought Miller’s personal story
moving, and that the expertise he had gained from past experience in
these situations would be invaluable. I still think he is a net plus,
but my conviction is not as strong when I hear him tell a reporter,
“There’s going to be a funeral in Alabama next week”, or he has a bead
on where Natalee’s body is because he has been working with a psychic.
My next donation is going to Dave Holloway.
Posted by:
DennisAOK |
Monday, August 01, 2005 at 07:17 PM
I have also followed this case since day one and care very deeply about this child. I think that we who that do care are at our wits end because no progress has been made in 8 months and we are still at square one. I cannot fault Tim Miller because whatever methods he is trying I believe come from that frustration and not a publicity stunt or money making scheme. He neither wants to fail Haleigh or waste his agency’s funds on a wild goose chase.
I’m starting to suspect that Misty finally does want to come clean with what she knows but has been threatened by the guilty party. The only way I think it will come from her is if she can say the info was tricked out of her and not her fault that she told. She is not hiding behind her lawyer and clamming up like Casey Anthony. Instead she is defying the lawyers advice, submitting to polygraphs, hypnosis, the media, acting out in public to get arrested and going to tourist spots where she would be in the public eye. It shouldn’t be too long now, she’s trying to save her neck and at the same time make this nightmare stop. I don’t think that what Misty knows can be bullied out of her or that would’ve worked already. I think she will only talk if she feels she has an out and will not end up at the bottom of the river.
It’s also possible that she took some sleeping pills that night, put a movie in for the kids and passed out and really doesn’t know who took Haleigh.
I think that Ron’s anguish is real at the disappearance of his child. Maybe he has some blame in this somewhere, but he called 911 immediately and wanted LE out there to help regardless of what drugs, etc they might find in tearing the trailer apart looking for his child. There is no evidence that he harmed Haleigh (unlike Casey, he did not abandon a car with human decomposition in the trunk) so I am not about to talk trash about someone with a missing child. There could be no worse hell.
Unfortunately posters ‘Been There Done That’
and ‘I Wonder’ are right on target. These posters have obviously been near the ‘inside’
with TES. It is a very sad situation as the mission of finding missing persons is very important. Perhaps it is time to dedicate the time and funds one has to give to another organization/s that can do the job with higher morals and ethics. Many of the people that have left TES were the absolute best at what they did but made a very difficult decision to leave rather than be further associated with the bad behaviors within TES. If there is a positive side to the situation, maybe it would be that the ‘outing’ of the real story within TES could bring about change.
That’s bad news about Tim Miller’s drinking too much and behaving erratically, if that is the case. I would hope that there are organizations out there that can help missing people.
What Next, no disrespect intended, but do you know for sure that what these posters Been There Done That & I Wonder are correct in their information , or are you just taking what they are saying as gospel?
I for one would not want to be responsible for smearing a good man like Tim Miller’s reputation.
He may not be an investigator, but he has a lot of experience under his belt. I’m sure he is beyond frustrated at this point. Also, he did not just insert himself into this investigation. We don’t know for sure what his tactics may have been exactly. I’m sure he is not telling all he knows. He does not have to try and make a name for himself. He already has a good name. If I had a family member missing, I can guarantee I would be on my knees begging for his help. I’m sure there are many that would agree with me. I sure hope the next show is not about bashing Tim Miller. I hope all his efforts don’t go unnoticed. I have to agree with Solves Crimes. Even with all the criticism, I believe he would still volunteer to come and help search if he were ask. If it takes a tip from a psychic to bring out the truth, then so be it. Stranger things have happened. At least he’s not just sitting on his ass doing nothing. No, I’m not saying he brought in a psychic in the Haleigh investigation. I was just responding to another poster bashing him for doing that in another case.
If in fact Tim has a drinking problem, can you say for sure in his situation you wouldn’t drink?
I hope he doesn’t, but if so, then let’s stand by the man and try and understand.
We all have the same goal here. That is to find Haleigh and bring her home. If he said he is not doing another search, then he must know something we don’t. Let’s try not to judge until we know.
Have a good evening all.
ms.peridot19,
I say this with all due respect: It is very hard to read text lingo and try and decipher what you are saying when you do not spell out your words. We all want to read what everyone writes. Just something to consider.
You mention Ronald having another child. One can only assume that child is Amber’s son? You should not make assumptions. There is not one shred of proof that child is Ronald’s, and it is not fair to Ronald, nor the child to drag him into this circus. For reasons known only to Amber, she has chosen not to allow Ronald to have the paternity test he requested. Some say it is because she does not want in the baby’s life. It can just as easily be said that she knows that Ronald is not the father. Amber is not exactly virtuous, is she? She is not even a mother to the child. Her grandmother is raising the baby even prior to her being being jailed most recently. As for your question as to whether Ronald and Amber lived together: Ronald and Amber have a very on and off relationship. They did not live together steadily for a set amount of time which is one reason why Amber may not want a test. People should stop dragging that baby into this mess when Amber herself is not doing so.
speaking of natalee’s case,
Thank you for posting that information.
There is actually quite a lot of information relating to Tim Miller if one is interested in actually looking. Maybe some people will open their eyes to what is in front of their faces.
http://www.klaaskids.org/search_center.htm
I have watched Mark Klaas on tv many times and he impresses me. He sadly lost his own daughter, Polly some years ago. He certainly comes across as a sober, intelligent and caring man. He certainly made it clear on NG that he thought TM should stick to searching and not be interfering in LE investigations.
The link above is to his page re searching, but he has a pretty large, informative and helpful website.
stormgardner…I sure wouldn’t be begging him for help, I’d be hoping someone like Mark Klaas would help. Jeez, if you get Tim involved he’s likely to go on NG and air all your family’s dirty laundry and betray your confidence.
I agree Mark Klaas is a class act and I have the utmost respect for him. He has been through hell and back. I do see where you are coming from and respect your opinion, but as far as Tim Miller airing the family’s dirty laundry, I think they’ve done a good job of doing that for themselves.
People tend not to believe second hand info, so i offer you this: look into the background of tm’s girlfriend, the assistant director of tes. do a criminal background check on her. i think u will be very surprised. Not only that but all of the former members mentioned by iwonder are on the net. not difficult to contact them and ask them why they left. i personally recognize several of the names iwonder mentioned and they are all highly respected people.makes ya wonder why they would all leave within months of each other? plus I know of anoter 4 or 5 not even mentioned above but I am not going to name names. The info is all out there. instead of arguing points why not do a little research? everyone can offer an opinion but facts r what matter in the end.
“If in fact Tim has a drinking problem, can you say for sure in his situation you wouldn’t drink”
U make it sound ok. How would u like to have a loved on go missing and then have the person who is supposed to help u make promises and never follow through or half a$$ it because of the “problem”? They don’t need that. Contact the family of corrie anderson, kellisue ackernact, mou tang (sp?), etc and see how they feel about tes. See how much addittional pain they suffered because of all this. Please, unless u know what u r talking about do not defend because of an image u have built up in your own head.
trythis,
I haven’t been able to find info re the names of the directors on the TES site, but did find this…
Your donation to Texas Equusearch will be used for search and rescue missions, equipment, fuel, food, lodging for the Search Coordinators and expenses to get the Mobile Command Center to the search location.
Certainly nothing there about donations being used to play keystone cop games, fund people to threaten and endanger people’s lives on busy freeways or to buy 17 year olds personal gifts and holidays. My goodness, what happened to the man that he thinks what he is doing is appropriate?
trythis, Please don’t take my comments as arguing. Not what I was trying to do. There is enough arguing on this thread without me adding to it. I have no problem doing some research. You are right. Facts are what matter. Maybe I should have done some research first. I just have a big heart. Tim Miller has been through so much pain. I can’t imagine living a nightmare like his.
http://stephww.wordpress.com/
New article by Steph Watts re Tim’s keystone cops capers. Apparently Tim felt he had to save Misty from Ron? WTH. He sure didn’t sound like he wanted to protect Misty in his ugly rant yesterday.
Please don’t think I’m defending anyone drinking to cope. I’m just saying maybe he needs help.
Alcohol has caused more problems in my life than I would care to share with someone I don’t know.
No, I was not the drinker, I just happened to be on the other end of it and it’s not a pretty situation. I have lived with alcoholism and it has pretty much destroyed my life. I was trying to give him the benefit of a doubt. I’m in no way saying it’s okay. I don’t think I implied that, or I didn’t think I did. However it is a disease.
This is my last post tonight. I was under the impression this was a site to be able to discuss and share your opinions. Most on this site will take the time and talk things through with you and not criticize. I can have my own opinions. You don’t know me and I’m not going to stay on here and defend myself. Unless you take the time to get to know someone, then you shouldn’t go on the attack . I’m finished trying to defend myself here. Think what you may. Sometimes you do more harm than you realize to someone.
stormgardner…please don’t take it personally. I think many are angry about this situation and it has nothing to do with you personally.
Tim admits to having to be hospitalized in the past for alcoholism and cocaine addiction. He is drinking again, and admits that quite freely. As someone who knows a fair bit about alcoholism, you’d know that alcoholics shouldn’t drink, and when they do, they can be pretty ugly, irrational, nasty, bitter etc. That’s what I believe is going on here.
I have been wondering how some posters who have been following this case aren’t connecting the “dots”. It’s all right here, most times in fore-shadowing, if one really pays attention.
While researching the articles for this post I was re-reminded of just how many times we are given a “bit” of information. Often times this “info” is railed against, disavowed, and straight-up called false or a lie. There have been a few different occasions in the past weeks that Simon has reported on something, it was refuted, only to be found to be acurate a few days later.
I composed this post to answer a few questions that have been asked regularly.
When everyone was theorizing and questioning where Misty was during her “vacation”, I felt assured where she was. I remembered these articles from Simon. It turns out my hunch on this article was correct.
1)Haleigh Cummings Update: Parents Cleared, Misty’s Story Unclear
Posted on August 17th, 2009
“Tim Miller with Texas EquuSearch said it may be another six weeks to two months before his volunteers will scour the area once more for Haleigh.” It has been 7+ weeks.
2)Bounty Hunter Padilla Makes Open Offer to Haleigh Cummings Stepmom
Posted on August 31st, 2009
“After the recap, I challenged listeners to think for a moment from the perspective of Misty whose life has impacted by sexual abuse at the hands of family members, a low level of education, being raised by drug addicted parents and who just might have been threatened with lethal force the night of Haleigh’s abduction. I also brought up the idea that Misty might not need another polygraph or an attorney, but rather and advocate.
At that point of the program, host Simon Barrett injected Bounty Hunter Leonard Padilla into the conversation. Padilla agreed that Misty probably needs a friend right now.
I asked Padilla if he had any suggestions. He responded by offering his help to Misty if she wanted it.
Padilla suggested taking her away from her surroundings for safety reasons–perhaps flying her to Canada in order to get some straight answers and to provide her an attorney. As written by Simon.
This is what immediately came to my mind when I heard that Misty had left Satsuma. I mean the very first thing. For some reason I had thought that TM had made this offer. (Sorry LP)
As for how Tim Miller came to posses the money to fund Misty’s “vaction” this article tells it all, in foreshadowing if you will.
3) Haleigh Cummings – TES Tim Miller – $35k For The Baby
Posted on September 2nd, 2009
“Miller sought the help of a fellow Texan and friend of Millers, Roy Moffitt of Roy Moffitt Customized Fueling Inc.. Moffit has since written a check to Ronald Cummings for $35,000 payable upon the safe return of Haleigh.”
Haleigh Cummings – Would $35,000 Get Her Back? Hank Croslin’s Call
Posted on September 2nd, 2009
The Sky’s TJ Hart asked Miller what exactly the $35,000 was for. Miller said he was only concerned about getting missing Haleigh back and that he “didn’t give a damn.”
Doesn’t it seem highly likely that this is the monies used to fund Misty’s Vaction? The donor was a personal friend of TM’s and the funds were given to TM, not necissarily the non-profit. The donor stated he didn’t care how the money was spent as long as it in some way helped locate Haleigh.
As for the questions about when TES will return to Satsuma, this article had a quote from Simon on the bottom mentioning the situation between TES and Misty.
4)AUDIO: Tim Miller with TES on Misty’s Whereabouts the Night Haleigh Cummings Vanished
Posted on October 9th, 2009
“The one question that was not asked was is Tim Miller going back to Satsuma? The original plan was for TES to resume their search for Haleigh Cummings right about now. But, is that still a go? Based on the polygraph fiasco it would seem unlikely that Misty Croslin is going to be co-operative with Tim Miller” – Simon
This should answer the questions about when TES will be going back to Satsuma. They aren’t. IMO PCSO aren’t searching either. There are too many possible locations and not enough evidence to follow.
hello disgusted,
i appreciate your comments. will try to be more careful of abbreviating.
i deliberately did not say amber’s name or her son’s. i have read quotes of amber saying the child is ron’s son, so i thought it was okay to mention (without naming)since it is already out there. also there is the fact amber’s grandmother say’s ronald’s name is on the birth certificate. mary said she let ronald take the boy for a night since he is the father, i would think the great grandmother would not let just anyone take the child. IF ronald did take the boy i assumed he believed or believes the child is his.
i did not know a mother could refuse to let the father take a paternity test. i actually think that is terrible if that is true. especially if she is not married and not claiming anyone else to be the father.
and, i did think it important if true that misty was threatening amber. if misty was threatening to take the baby from amber that is more than immaturity. that is very nasty. if she was concerned about the baby, she should have reported her concerns and not played games. i hope all this has nothing to do with whatever happened to haleigh.
but, i believe your greater point being, that mentioning the the child at all is not good for him. point taken. i won’t mention him again.
this blog is about haleigh first.
i am so sad about the accusations against tim miller going to far in his search to find haleigh. i personally am not bothered by anyone befriending people to find out information. i realize people think he is doing more than that. i really hope he is constructively helping. especially if the police hands are tied financially or otherwise.
i know tim is saying things about ronald (immaturity) but, i have not forgotten tim comforting ronald at haleigh’s birthday ballon release. i actually thought that looked like a very sincere attempt to comfort a suffering father. so, i believe tim m. intentions are about finding a missing child. certainly not to cause more harm.
i have tried to understand the situation all the people are in. as far as misty goes i do not know what help there is for her. so i personly was hoping going to church would help misty. there just doesn’t seem to be anyone able or willing to be on her side. i hoped maybe a church person would know how to help her. maybe if she is safe and feels it is possible she will tell whatever else she may know.
and disgusted if you are reading this, i do appreciate your comments to me. i do not wish to contribute more harm in any way. i have strong personal feelings, but, i will try to be more careful what and how i say things.
I see nothing wrong with what TM is doing.
I think it’s great that someone is trying to get some info out of Misty.Might prove to be a good thing.He may be announcing it now because he has some new evidence?Some thing to think about
Or else why would he blow his cover?
porcelain, I hope you are correct, I hope TM exposes some new evidence, we’ll see. But I can’t see how this was anything except WRONG. We don’t know if Misty is guilty or not. We don’t KNOW. If she is a victim here herself this is just one more blow to her, one more “adult” that failed & betrayed her. If she is scared to tell the truth I am sure this DIDN’T help her trust anyone enough to talk. But let’s just say she is a murderer and deserves this type treatment, then why would TM announce it to the world and blow up his own plan???? It seems wrong & useless to me. But I hope you are right and this leads to finding Haleigh alive & well. I guess time will tell.
treece i like what you are saying and how you say it. but i think it is not law enforcement or other people trying to figure out what happened to haleigh to be responsible for misty.
I hope if they do get information from misty, it is not that she did anything wrong. if she is responsible i do not think she will tell. but, i think it is wonderful people are still trying to find out what happened. i am not talking about tricking her into say something not true, just trying to find out the truth.
i am far away reading all this on the computer. people joke about all these people being dumb. i do not know myself that misty is dumb. she may have learning issues at school and is uneducated, but that doesn’t mean she is dumb. she knows who donna is and who tim miller is. i hope misty herself and or ron is not messing with donna and tim.
i hope misty can find a real friend, a truly supportive relative, a respectful boyfriend who would appreciate and support her. or someone in some type of government agency or church that could help her find some training or something that would help her have some hope and control over her own life. she obviously needs to find a lawyer, a good lawyer.
i keep wishing i had lots of money and answers to fix everything. i am actually touched by many of the posters here. many seem to have such good hearts! and smarts!
i really hope things go right for cobra tomorrow too.
goodnight everyone
ms peridot, I too, hope & pray things go well for Cobra, it is scary to me the situation he is in. I hate it for him, being punished for caring about Haleigh & trying to find her.
For any of you that might have missed some of the radio broadcasts over the weekend, the ‘trashing’ of Misty was rampant. One example is Steph Watts as late as last night.
Steph has been Tim Miller’s ‘sidekick’ regarding the testing of Misty, the releasing of info and videos regarding those tests etc. What happened to innocent until proven guilty??? Why would these two grown men use terrible ethics to gain the trust of this seventeen year old girl and then go on national media to trash her, accuse her of threesomes etc etc?
Stop and think a minute, would you want people that have these ethics involved if you had a missing loved one? Would you want your hard-earned money that you donate being spent on alcohol and all that comes with it? Would you recommend that others continue to donate to TES? It occurs to me that those who are truly interested in helping find missing people need to look closely at other groups that would be able to do such work with ethics and morals.
It is my opinion that the two men mentioned above are, and have been involved for publicity reasons for a very long time. Now that their plan has failed…hide and watch how the ‘trashing’ continues and what methods they use to redeem their actions. JMO
I don’t see any way to redeem this stunt. treece
I do think Tim Miller is desperate to find a body – ANY body – especially in Florida. He will do anything to get an inside scoop. Right about now – he looks pretty stupid. He has been here for numerous cases and done multiple searches over the last year and has found absolutely no one! Not Caylee, not Jennifer, not Adji, not Haleigh and not Tracy! Why does everyone think this man is so wonderful. So far he has spent millions and come up empty handed. His track record stinks – especially in Florida.
crabby patty, you better be careful on this post talking about tm, nance will be on you.
I agree I also read yesterday that he now claims he was just trying to protect Misty. WHATEVER!
I think he is losing it, showing his true colors.
i believe that mitsy really has no direct involvement in haleighs disapearence.i think its possible that her brother was sernt over to the house after haleighs father cold not reach mitsy by phone and after trying the door ,the brother found it unlocked and entered,at wich he found everyone asleep in the house .he turned on the kitchen light and wandered around the house for a while and no one woke up and he decided to take haleigh and do something with her,god knows what and then he came up with this story that he knocked on the door and no one answered. he already had his cover becauseb he was sent there so if questioned, he had a witness to verify his actions.
i believe that mitsy really has no direct involvement in haleighs disapearence.i think its possible that her brother was sernt over to the house after haleighs father cold not reach mitsy by phone and after trying the door ,the brother found it unlocked and entered,at wich he found everyone asleep in the house .he turned on the kitchen light and wandered around the house for a while and no one woke up and he decided to take haleigh and do something with her,god knows what and then he came up with this story that he knocked on the door and no one answered. he already had his cover becauseb he was sent there so if questioned, he had a witness to verify his actions.
Tim Miller should seek psychiatric help. Who in their right mind would donate to this nut case that pays people to start road rage? He is confused about his place in life and needs to get a grip and this is NOT the first time Tim Miller has gone off the deep end. He is hurting all that try to help missing children by making the familes not trust the people that are there to help them. Hiding being his lawyer NeJames another slime bag.
Is Steph the blogger responsible for this “road rage” incident? There was a rumor going around that he had Courtney Ballinger on his friends list of Facebook..
I think the road rage incident was a set up. The girl does not sound scared on her 911 call, if she was that “scared” she wouldn’t have used the word “like” so many times in description and wouldn’t have had the nonchalant moments she did with the 911 operator!
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