A question that has been asked several times in the battlefield that we euphemistically call our Comments section is where is the evidence?
Well I can assure you that there is plenty of documentary evidence, we are awash in it. I also want to tell you that it is not just Jan and I that are going over it all, there is at least one investigative journalist and a highly respected clinical psychologist who is donating his time to this case, that are reviewing the same set of documents.
Some of these documents are in the public domain, but I am not sure they all are, and for that reason I am not willing to publish excerpts at this point. I also want to discuss our findings with the other researchers and that will not happen until tomorrow.
There are two documents in particular that stand out as being hugely significant. Both were written by trained dispassionate third party professionals, and either should have raised a red flag the size of California. The court hearings to date have been so bizarre that I am not sure that either document has been filed as evidence, it is for this reason that we do not want to go into details as to their contents.
So to all you naysayers out there, yes there is evidence in the Aaliyah Bedwell case.
I also find it interesting that the Auburn Journal finally decided to publish an article about the story. The interview itself was conducted more than two weeks ago. Why the long wait? Actually I will put forward a theory, the Auburn Journal would have much preferred to have publish nothing. Jan and I spoke to the author of the Auburn Journal article over two weeks ago, unknown to us at the time, and not offered to us, she had already spoken with Connie. She made a comment while on the phone that I am sure she regrets greatly, “You have to remember that we need to keep in the good graces of the Auburn Police Department.†This is a very telling statement.
It also is interesting to analyze the Auburn Journal story in the context of that statement. It is written in a very butt covering neutral tone.
When I am not wearing my Journalist hat I am a reviewer, books, music, documentaries, and a whole bunch of other things. The consequence is that I see things in works that maybe others would not. You can tell much about an author by what he writes, fiction, non-fiction it matters not.
If you apply that same skill to the Bedwell Story a very disturbing picture emerges.
Simon and Jan Barrett
131 users commented in " Aaliyah Bedwell – The Evidence "
Follow-up comment rss or Leave a TrackbackThanks for the update Simon and Jan.
Go Simon! I commend you for the perserverance to get to the bottom of this story, regardless of the outcome! It’s obvious that you (and Jan) are committed to bringing out the truth…no matter what it is. I wait patiently for your facts to be brought forth….again, I know that no matter what those facts are….YOU will report them with the utmost integrity! Thank you for this most recent update!
I just listened to the radio program yesterday. I am so sad about no one looking into the case. I agree with the Dr. that called in, I would go, not call, to the local TV station. Can they change court venues?
There are two documents in particular that stand out as being hugely significant. Both were written by trained dispassionate third party professionals, and either should have raised a red flag the size of California
Link please. Where is this so called significant non biased 3rd party documentation? Why is it not linked when the Auburn Journal article is linked?
Me thinks it does not exist. If you really have it, post it! Quit using the bait and lure tactics and show some real proof.
Jerry! Jerry! Simon! Simon! I think I may be getting the two confuzed!
what do they say? LOSTFU! I think many of you know what that acronymn means.
Without back up, it is simply an OPINION. WE all know Jan and Simons OPINION. I want proof…. and no more why it is so secret. You published names…. publish your proof if you indeed have it.
Jan and Simon, I have an honest question. After reading Joey Tillmans response that NUMBERS SELL folks, as well as the info published info regarding both Joey and Connie conveniently forgetting to supply Bubba Love’s expert with the documentation even they requested. Information about ‘negotiations’ between yourself, Joey T, and Bubba’s camp about continuing the story without such documentation, what are you REAL motives for following this story? Are you looking to gain ‘Murt’ noteriety? Because I smell someone looking for ratings, and the possibility of the Bedwells being thrown to the Sharks depending in which way the story falls.
You have claimed if the story is untrue, what have you lost, time? No, you would gain much more with the hopes of bumping up the number of readers to this site, as well as Joeys.
I can see how this will play out…. WHEN the allegations are shown as untrue, you will all state. Folks we got to the truth… just as we said and have washed your hands. Sadly, if that is the case you will have been part of the vilification of an innocent father and exploiting an innocent child.
Oh and please, before you delete my comments because they are not supporting this cause with rose colored glasses, they will be copied and posted elsewhere.
Sick, just sick.
Before you delete my comments. Bloggers who are able to call someone a pedofile. Slam the accused Attorney by calling her a witch, and some other not so nice accusations. As well as throwing thunder and big tough guy word out there but not allow readers to comment their thoughts and ask questions without being edited, and Banned?
Hmmmm…. What does that say about your integrity as a writer?
I hope of you are willing to toss out what you have written in your articles, you are willing to have your toes held to the heat and take a bit of what you are dishing out.
You know, dont believe what they say, believe what they DO. I will be watching.
Oooohh, Simon…she’ll be watching….scarey!! LOL!
We are waiting for permission from the Bedwell family to publish. As soon as we get it, they will be published.
As to Joey Tillman, I know nothing about him other than a couple of phone calls. His heart seems to be in the right place, how he makes a living is none of my business.
Ratings matter not one iota to us. We certainly would not run with a story for ratings. We run stories that we buy into, as in, we believe in.
Momof1 I would suggest that you calm down. We are willing to explore the other side of this story, but guess what? None of the Thompson family or the attorney will talk to us, actually if you read the Auburn Journal article you might pick up on the fact that Amara does not like to talk about this case at all.
I do not expect everyone to buy into this case. But if it is true, boy you and the rest of the hate group are going to have some major egg on your faces. Think about it Beth.
Simon
In terms of raw numbers, I would have to guess that the articles on both the Caylee and Haleigh cases as nationally covered stories are bringing in much larger numbers of readers than the Aaliyah case. So, it seems a bit absurd to suggest anyone is presenting these articles purely for ratings.
Thank you Spacely, I couldn’t have said it better myself!
Well, momof1, nobody can say “don’t believe what they say, believe what they DO” about you!
Cause you don’t do anything except throw tantrums like a little kid and turn blue screaming “I want what I want and I want it!” Get off your duff and do some research yourself if you want to know so badly.
Don’t you understand that no one has all the proof or documentation yet? Or that releasing just part of the whole story could raise more questions than it answers? It takes time to gather information.
I think it’s funny that you accuse BNN of spinning the story to get readers! When what they really have to do is shut down comments sections and ban people for nasty, belligerant behavior like yours! And none of this innocent “we were only asking questions” nonsense. You were bullying and badgering and insulting people AFTER Jan and Simon asked us all to keep the peace on this subject. Whether you agree with it or not, it’s not an unreasonable request to make of a group of supposed adults. But I guess it is too much to expect of those with chips on their shoulders, grudges, and anger management issues.
If you don’t like BNN then make it easy on yourself and go where you’ll be happier.
Gosh, Spacely, Jan and Simon, you are real diplomats! I admire that! Next time I’ll hold off and let you all handle it. You’re much better at it than I am.
nahhh m2c yours was Well Said! Thanks 🙂
Simon,
As i read your post I felt the desire to state, just because I don’t believe the same as you, it does not make me part of a hate group.
When I came to BNN it was because I respected you and others writings. I liked the idea of discussing items of interest and sharing different opinions.
It seems like the night I was blogging with new friends and this situation came to light everything changed. We who don’t believe Connie Bedwell’s accusations are told to shut up or get out. Where did the healthy debate go?
It feels as though you are trying to silence people in the same manner as you are shouting Connie Bedwell has been silenced.
I would like to remain her at BNN. I respect your opinion and ask that you will do the same for me.
Somebody we do respect a difference in opinion when it is done in a decent manner. She came in here demanding things from us that we are not ready to reveal. That is our choice to wait and not hers. We are not required to answers anyone’s demands. We explained we have something but are not ready to publish it but she was demanding we do because SHE wanted it. And then she accused us of doing this for ratings which is a totally unfair statement. We did NOT ban her and we did NOT delete her comments. All he did was respond to them.
Thank you Simon. Though I find it unsual that the Bedwells have been pleading for a venue to share facts, that when given their is still hesitancy, especially with everything they have put out there.
Why are they willing to share some but not all? What is the hesitancy after pleading for any and ALL support and not saying GO PUT OUT MY FACTS! Thank you for the opportunity to present my case!
MC2- Thank you for proving my point. Someone doesn’t agree and they are immediately attacked as part of the problem. Keep doing that. all it does is prove ones point that strong opposing opinions are not welcome here at BNN.
when I fought my court battle, I fought it against those who had charged 7&8 yr old boys with the murder of Ryan Harris. I have been through and seen corruption… Those boys, were later acquitted of the crime when one Floyd Durr was found to be the perp who murdered Ryan Harris.
Men and boys are falsely accused often.
Aaron Patterson and those in IL falsely accused on DEATH ROW. Go read… and tell me men and boys are NOT falsely accused.
I had no idea there was a “hate group” where are the sign ups for this? Just kidding..
But I do find it odd that you would breach confidentiality like that..and call people out.
I really hope you guys find what your are looking for.. I really hope this blog wasn’t torn apart and turned against each other over the rants of a vengeful mother.
OK folks,
here is the deal. I and my wife are being accused of doing bad stuff. So I will put out a challenge to you all.
We base our articles on research and that is not a quick google search.
M2c has worked hard on this case.
In fact a number of people have worked hard.
What amazes me is that a few people could be so narrow minded.
It is possible that we are wrong, it is possible that we are being led up a silly path. If we are, we still win. Someone will win, and the accuser will face some serious prison time.
If we are right, we have just saved a young child from hell.
Those of you that seem determined to cause problems here in BNN, I have this to say. Read the stinking evidence, talk to the people involved. We have.
Of course it is easier to leave abusive comments than actually do any research. Think about that before you leave the next stupid comment.
I read a lot, way more than the regular guy, I can spot a style of writing, I can name the author just on the words. The comment left by Beth (or what ever she wants to call herself today) was much more likely written by someone else, and based on language use, I could make an educated guess.
I will also say, if anyone has any sensible news, call the cops, call us, call someone. This is a case that needs to be solved.
Simon
I agree that there are false allegations of child abuse out there by men and women who want full custody of their children. There are false allegations in many arenas.
I do believe in Simon and Jan though. It is a discredit to their intelligence for people to think that they took this allegation lightly for “numbers” without investigating it first.
Simon certainly has more credentials than most of us to smell a rat.
I don’t understand the comment that they have “breached confidentiality” or that the blog is “torn apart”. It is only torn apart if you can’t handle debate. It’s a shame that we can’t debate our differences in kind.
Thank you for the update Simon and Jan.
momof1 – Strong opinions “opposing” what? Opposing people who choose to believe that this is happening or that it may be happening? Okay. You are entitled to that strong opinion.
However, debate did not happen. Arguments happened. And until there is more information or proof of some kind it seems that’s all that will happen. It’s kind of like you are saying you are entitled to accuse me of being crazy and harrass me for proof that I’m not – while I’m trying to get you that proof. What kind of a thing is that? BTW, personally I don’t know what to think of Aaliyah’s situation yet but I would very much appreciate it if all efforts possible could be made to find out – in case it’s true.
Okay, momof1, I see where your past experience with males being falsely accused has led you to be extremely passionate, sensitive and possibly somewhat predisposed to disbelieve the allegations. Please respect the equally passionate feelings of people whose experiences with victims of child molestation have made them extremely sensitive and possibly predisposed to believe that this could be true. I am just praying that the truth can be uncovered – whatever it may be.
Somebody said,in May 17th, 2009 at 7:38 pm
Where did the healthy debate go?
HEALTHY DEBATE??? Is that what you call momof1’s comments? Hmmmmm….interesting.
I don’t understand why those of you who are so heck bent on having a “healthy debate” even bother coming into this blog? It’s a matter of choice when you select the thread you wish to read. It’s not transparent that your intent is NOT to “healthily debate” this case but to stir the pot. I feel sorry for those that can’t look into the good of what Jan and Simon are trying to do….which is plain and simple…..to get to the bottom of this story no matter what IT is…..I am disgusted that momof1 can’t see that…but not surprised.
Simon, I will be interested to see how many of those “heck bent” on complaining about your article will choose to accept your challenge. I will not hold my breath. Great job to both you and Jan!
And just so you know momof1, I haven’t formed an opinion yet as to whether this is a true situation or a hoax. HOWEVER….once Simon and Jan have had the OPPORTUNITY to present their facts…I will RESPECTFULLY come to a conclusion. Until then……..Jan and Simon keep on writing about this story so those of us that REALLY want to get to the truth…can!
m2c….BRAVO! well said @ 7:38 pm. That is about the most RESPECTFUL comment I’ve read so far today!
Butters said, in May 17th, 2009 at 8:21 pm
But I do find it odd that you would breach confidentiality like that..and call people out.
It isn’t the first time that someone on this blog has been “called out” for changing their name and posting a comment under a different name. If I make a comment, I certainly don’t feel the need to “change my name” and if that’s the case….maybe I need to think about whether or not it’s an appropriate comment. It is common courtesy that Jan and Simon have followed before when others attempt to pretend to be someone they are not for the purpose of stirring the pot. Course, that’s just my opinion 🙂
But it wasn’t even Beth who posted that it was someone completely diff. And I know that for a fact so they falsely accused Beth.
whoops! I stand corrected….m2c I was talking about the comment you made at 9:07 pm NOT 7:38 pm. 🙂
I will add this about my ‘experience’ call it a resume if you will.
Yes, I went through that fighting for Child support. Never did go through custody and I know as a never married single mother I have sole physical and legal by default.
I am a member of ACES- Association for Children for enforcement of Support both nationally and locally with the illinois chapter. I also co mod on an SP forum run by a fathers rights group. ACES and FR’s HATE each other. Somehow I managed to be allowed to be involved actively with both…. because I choose not to take sides without facts, and I believe children deserve BOTH parents unless one is PROVED to be detrimental to the child and has PROVEN to cause harm.
I have talked personally with Geraldine Jensen founder of ACES. I have spoken personally with Dawn V- fought her CS case to the point that only the big wigs in Springfield handled her case.
I fought for changes in my own county, DuPage when the courts did not follow the law. Had a meeting called with the atty’s judges.. No it did not change the outcome of my case, but MADE A DIFFERENCE for those after me.
I have listened, fought and debated the Fathers righters. I took it when I was WRONG. I have since educated myself to the HAGUE CONVENTION and issues with international child abduction.
I have read, listened too, debated, those with FACTS and have called out whiney cry babies who can NOT support their word with facts, whether it be statute law, or facts to document their case.
I am STILL WAITING for any ANY thing supporting these allegations regarding Aaliyah as fact. Outside of a video, I see none…
So yes, I ask… you call it demand? Maybe… as we have been waiting since this story broke here at BNN in early May.. Broke at WS in late APril.
I have followed and still have saved affidavits, etc. from 2002.
If Connie was REALLY interested and HAD FACTS, she would say SCREW a gag order. Here ARE MY FACTS… POST THEM SIMON, BUBBA- ANYONE!
there would be no hemming and hawing about needing permission, because the bedwell camp would be SP CONFIDENT they would just put it out there.
Which, again, leads me to believe those actively trying to support this case are still looking for ANY evidence to support this case.
Butters, it’s ok….it’s not OUR worry. If that is the case, let Beth or whoever take care of it. If it was a mistake, Simon if big enought to admit it. Getting involved in the small stuff only causes more problems…ya know? 🙂
As for me, all I want is the truth to come out. If there is corrupt behavior going on in Placer Courts, it needs to stop, not just for this little girl, but for everyone in Placer County.
As far as behavior in blogs, I feel that everyone should feel free to express their views (in a civil manner),no matter how opposing they may be. I would like to see ‘name calling’ by ‘writers’ and ‘bloggers’ stop, no matter how tempting it may be. It fuels too much fire when emotions are raw anyway.
As a victim of childhood abuse myself, it is hard to see this small town mentality of ‘ignore it, it will go away’. This only perpetuates the cycle of abuse, and that is a known fact.
The fact that this town is so behind the times, yet able to pull the wool over many eyes, and for decades in some cases- ALL THE WHILE building a reputation as a place it is hard to find justice, is absolutely sickening.
Where I’m from if there is Any reports a child is in immediate physical danger they must investigate Fully AFTER removing the possible victim/s from the home. It is only after fully interviewing EACH SIDE of the allegations presented, ALONG WITH WITNESS REPORTS, and an internal investigation, that the child MIGHT be returned to the custodial parent.
They DO NOT leave the child in a ‘possibly’ abusive situation Until they are sure it is not abusive. Considering none of Connies family or Aaliyahs Psychologist were ever interviewed by either CPS or the LE, makes it obvious they never followed up on anything except the interests of the Father.
The fact that as soon as the mother stood up More with her concerns, and out of absolute desperation, that her visitation has been virtually all but abolished.
Anyone with even Half a Brain knows that the first thing an abuser will do it turn the tables and accuse the victim of anything they can, in order to deflect the blame from themselves.
Just because this one has ties to the community, does not make it okay to ignore it and bury all of the evidence that can be represented. And I would say anyone who’s defense atty is married to One of the Only TWO family court judges in that city, is an illegal conflict of interest in itself and should be reported to the california bar association stat!
IF there was EVEN a FULL investigation we wouldn’t all be in this forum arguing over which parent did what.
If there were a full investigation we would Already know Which parent is lying or not. It is absolutely frustrating that even when the child is old enough to actually tell us what is happening yet there are people who claim they have done their jobs and at the very same time- could ignore it.
There is alot of people pointing fingers at Connie concerning ‘following our laws’, well I have to commend her for having enough guts to try and stand up against the very system she knows will and has let her and Aaliyah down so far. To come back form alaska to try and do right by not only Aaliyah but also the abuser even (letting him even have a chance at visitation is more than you could have gotten from me given the same situation!)
It is perfectly obvious that Many people in Support of the Bedwells have Not been heard, along with at least one professional opinion in favor of protecting Aaliyah from the sper..I mean, father.
I was somewhat appalled in the onesided article in the Auburn Journal which clearly left out so much, while leaving Connie looking bad. It is pathetic that they even bothered to write it at all since it is obvious they are in support of the father too.
Another thing, those comments on it there were extremely vicious and OBVIOUSLY written by His family or close friends. I really am not bothered to post my opinions although they might differ from others but there is a certain tact in how you approach it from either side IMHO.
I also looked at the BUBBA METER and only 30 % of all voters (over 4400 mind you) believe the father is telling the truth. THAT has GOT to say something!!!
THANK YOU Simon, Jan and Stone for all the articles on Aaliyah, and Haleigh Cummings. Thanks for not backing down and standing up for what you believe in!
-momof5
Momof1, very impressive resume…. but in reading your comment, it sounds full of anger to me. Sorry that you have so much pain in your life. It’s good to see that you are a “fighter” in a sense, because you have made a difference in your life. How about redirecting that anger in a positive sense? Come on….I’m sure you can do it???
My earlier post was not to condemn Jan and Simon. I am not part of a group and was only stating an opinion to Simon.
I told him I came to BNN because of the respect I had for his writing.
My post had no bearing to any other comments on this thread at that time.
I tend to want the facts and was trying to get them during some earlier posts. I believe I am reasonably respectful and would like people to understand my questions are for the information I seek.
I would like to know the facts and prefer not to be ostracised for that.
Bunny! WELL put! OBVIOUSLY being a mother of 5…..your concern seems to be “GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THE TRUTH”….which is what Jan and Simon are trying to do……thanks for supporting them in their quest to do so! I have a feeling that even if you disagreed with the article…you would have presented it respectfully!! Nice to have you here!
Somebody said,in May 17th, 2009 at 9:38 pm My earlier post was not to condemn Jan and Simon. I am not part of a group and was only stating an opinion to Simon.
Really???? hmmmmmm, why did you not email him personally rather than commenting your opinion of his “wrong doing” on the blog…..just curious??? Nevermind…..I really don’t need an answer. This case needs to be solved regardless of your need to “correct” Simon.
Somebody, no ostracizing going on here. Just bloggers who want to get to the bottom of this case and are willing to help Jan and Simon do what we can. If you have criticism for Simon, I’m sure he’d love to have a personal email from you. Respect for Simon as you say? Well that would be the “respectful” thing to do don’t you think? 🙂
Bunny, you still here?
Bunny said…I also looked at the BUBBA METER….
I want one of those! lol.
Sorry to hear about your abuse… but I am so happy to see that you are using it in a very constructive way! Advocating for those that might be “possilby” being abused also! You have my respect! I’ve read your comment several times….worth reading….again…and again….and again! Thank you for sharing. 🙂
thank you for the kind welcome CHSAH. I know when I post in a forum I can get alot of flack but I’m willing to stand up where I see a need. Being a past victim of child abuse it is hard for me to turn a blind eye to this case once it has been presented. It is also hard for me to believe it is Not happening or has not happened. At the same time I would like to see the Evidence it is NOT happening and you can’t get that without a FULL investigation. If it were a hoax then we could all rest easy knowing this little girl was never touched in this manner. If it is proven true then we know Connie finally got the help she so desperately needs & deserves. Her civil rights have all but been obliterated by the inept court and cps system in Placer county.
I have five children 4-17, and I know there is no way a lil girl would ramble about those things unless she had experienced them firsthand. Even if she were coached it would not last 27 minutes on a video then backed up by every loved one who truly cares to stand up for her.
Her cries for help are mindnumbing, to think it is being ignored or swept under a rug makes my stomach turn.
I have appreciated the blogs here at this site for quite sometime but just had to post here and also over Haleigh Cummings.
I am also willing to read comments that differ from my own opinion because I truly believe in people, overall, and I want to see how BOTH sides think! This is my opinion and everyone else is entitled to theirs.
There is nothing I can pray harder for at this point than a resolution for Aaliyah. If her father is or has been abusive, I wish it to be approached in a manner that he could get help, and eventually build a new relationship with Aaliyah (after some hard time of course).
I am absolutely against the current setup where Connie has No Right to Any part of her daughters life, only because there is such strong evidence of possible abuse that can be covered up by the fathers connections.
WHOEVER is right or wrong it is obvious the child is entitled to know both of them. If it is proven he has been abusive I would hope he has to answer to the full extent of the law as it would apply to someone who hurts children in this manner.
It is hard for me not to take sides here, as I truly believe she has been abused, and I want nothing more than to know that this has been fully investigated and that Aaliyah is safe.
CHSAH
I believe when I stated my opinion to Simon I did it respectfully. When Jan responded I believe she didn’t have a problem with it.
Because what I said, was an opinion, not a fact. I was not aware of the need to email a concern to Simon when I commented to him.
Simon if I followed the wrong protocol I apologize.
007,
name calling is just the tip of the iceberg in this case. One wrong does not make a right which is what you’ve said. I agree. What is wrong is for those that disagree (unrespectfully) about this case come in this blog (willingly) and harrass those of us who wish to know the truth NO MATTER what it is. I have not seen Jan and Simon say anything BUT that from the beginning. Jan and Simon run this blog so they make the rules and can change them as they wish…..just as we ALL do in our own “house”. Not one of us would sit back and let someone treat us with anything other than the respect we deserve in our own home….I don’t expect anything less for Jan and Simon on their blogs. I’m with YOU all the way…….ALL i WANT is to get to the bottom of this! 🙂
REAL NICE how you bannnnnnn people with no warning or real reasoning….
Must make you guys feel so tough and powerful!!!!
BNN is not the source of first news.. the money trail BOGUS….soon this will be bogus..
You guys copy and paste other articles and then add some smart *ss humor to it and try to make your own…
Bunny, you blog very well and with much respect in what you write. Your writing shows that what you feel comes from the heart and not from any anger that you so… deserve to feel. It’s people like you who make a difference in others lives. As I read your comments to me, I don’t see you at all as taking “sides”. I see a very concerned mother who knows all to well what it is like to go thru abuse and wants to make sure that EVERY child deserves the right to be safe! I’m with you, I don’t KNOW if this is true or not but I certainly don’t see the harm in getting to the bottom of it. Thank you for your respectful comments. 🙂
Liar….wow! what a name you have there. I’ll choose to ignore you childist comments from this point on….out of respect for Jan and Simon that is.
Somebody,
Well stated. 🙂 No argument on that. 🙂
Thank you, I appreciate that.
Somebody, I’ve read your blog comments …I have respect for you. If your right…(which you were), I have no problem in acknowledging that. 🙂
You know, this is quite rediculous. Why don’t you all just post under the names that you used to until you were asked to leave? This is quite absured. How old are all of you? My children don’t even act this young.
I don’t mind being wrong :)….won’t be the first time! lol Thanks for understanding and commenting respectfully… 🙂
I just have so many questions and don’t mean to be rude.
It is so hard not to have the facts.
I pray that this isn’t true. But the flip side seems no better.
Karenccc,
It’s ok. It happens and when it becomes a problem, Jan and Simon “call them out”. Right or wrong??? Doesn’t matter, it’s their call and I respect that. I’ve always been chsah….and always will be (Caylee has stolen America’s heart). WE have bigger fish to fry here right? Anything new? 🙂
Karen:
I think with the blog name:
Liarliarpantsonfire
says it all. Don’t you think? LOL, No class, grade school mentality. Something is wrong with people that have to attack others. Makes them think they have purpose. 🙂
Somebody, You are so right. WE want ALL the answers now. That makes you human…that’s a good thing right? I didn’t take you as rude at all….I’m not like that. We are both adults and we can discuss things like that…. your ok with me! 🙂
CHSAH
I hadn’t know what the initials stood for. I like keeping the memory of Caylee alive.
I like how BNN uses Caylee’s name and not her mothers in articles.
CHSAH
I think you are handling everyone with dignity tonight. Good job. 🙂
Thanks CHSAH
Sassy…lol. I hope my subtitle (snowhorse queen) doesn’t give everyone the sense that I’m REALLY a queen? lol. Make one wonder why we pick the names/subtitles we do huh?
Sassy, I know. What I don’t get is how old can some of these people be? I have to catch up on all of this. I just jumped in and saw all the different names. I mean, come on, why do they think we are dumb? Anyway, I’ll be back in a minute.
Thanks Sassy and Somebody…..it makes the “room” so much more fun doesn’t it??? I HATE arguing just for the sake of arguing. I know I’m not perfect, nor am I the “queen” of the blog (or King? lol), I want to hear all sides also, but I don’t listen very well if it’s presented disprectfully! lol. Respect gets my attention! 🙂 🙂
CHSAH
LOL, yes. I like Snowhorse Queen. I live in Phoenix where it was 105 degrees today. Seeing your sub title name is like a cool breeze.
I’m not a Sassy person by any means either. Go figure.
Karenccc,
People only get to you if you let them. Your an important voice here just as any of us are….I’m usually listening…UNLESS someone is rude (lol)….
I just wanted to come back and add that although I may not always comment on the blogs here, I do read all the comments.
I also want to assure you that I am in no way anyone else on these blogs besides bunny, momof5, or rivercitypunk. In re to a recent comment I just don’t wnat anyone to confuse me with anyone else 😛
In general, whether we believe the allegations are true or not, I think we have all had ample opportunity to express our views. Most people I have noticed in here have valuable points to make for either side, and yes the bickering does seem a bit tedious, but I do so value everyones opinions, and just want the truth to come out.
That said I’m off for the nite- Ill check back to see what ya’ll are up to with this in the morn over coffee 🙂
-momof5
Well I am what I am, just Somebody.
I guess the hardest part of this whole story is that any ending means a little girl has suffered and that breaks my heart.
Sassy, I like you already! A person that used to blog on the Caylee case gave me the name of snowhorse queen. My family is avid snowmobilers and I’ve had a “few accidents”…hense my snowmobile became a “snowhorse”….and I am the QUEEN of accidents! lol.
Phoenix??? awwwwww!!!! I would LOVE the warm weather! lol. I would take the warm/hot over the cold anyday!
Sassy can be a good thing and it seems that you use it in a “good way”… 🙂
Somebody…..awwww, your heart is showing right now. don’t be making me cry! I’m a softie…… I hate to think of it too. I hope that Jan and Simon finds this to not be the case (sexual abuse) but I hope even more that WHATEVER it is….THEY get the chance to set us straight with the facts…ya know?
CH, no one really gets to me. I hold my tongue as long as I can. It’s been about three weeks now. Yesterday, I just didn’t care. I just don’t understand why people change their names. It makes not sense to me. I love all of you guys here. You make me feel so much better about this whole situation. And Sassy is just awesome! You all are, but she’s the newest, and I hope you feel welcome!
Somebody….and YOU are somebody….important to us! If you have ANY ideas or suggestions in this case…..Jan and Simon will follow any lead or reasonable suggestion we have. m2c (among others) has really put her “detective” nature to work here and it’s appreciated.
Karen, just remember that MOST everyone who comes in here wants the truth to be known. There will always be a “select” few that have issues of their own and those come thru in their nasty comments. I’ve been on BNN for about a year and there are ALOT of people who do care. It’s just easier to let the “nasty” ones get to us. I certainly have been guilty of allowing that at times…but that makes us human. I’d rather talk with those of you who do care about a case, than those that only wish to release their own pain thru negativism.
I am going to talk with my sister in-law to get some insight. She deals with the courts and CPS as a foster parent and an I.A. in the public school system. Some laws are probably different from state to state but maybe some advice from her could be helpful.
Somebody:
I like your handle..LOL. I love the song Somebody to love by Queen. Somebody, somebody, somebody…to love me.
CHSAH: I don’t mind the heat. Sometimes it can make me a little “Sassy” :p Flagstaff is a 2 hour drive. Plenty of snow there in the winter.
I have 3 wonderful grandchildren. My heart aches so much for the pain and suffering that some children endure. I think it is wonderful that we can all be a voice for them.
Somebody and I set the pace tonight…we respectfully disagreed and cared enough to talk it thru. I can’t help but have respect for someone like “Somebody”. 🙂
CH, I agree. I just want people who want to cause trouble to just go away. They don’t believe , so just go away. I’m tired of having to justify why I’m here. I thank you all for wanting to help this child, even if you don’t have all the “evidence”. I’m going to go. I’m glad I wasn’t here for all of this tonight. “I” would have been banned! LOL! See you all tomorrow!
Somebody…WHAT great idea!!!! See, I wouldn’t have thought of that aspect??? What can it hurt, right??? What IF, that leads to another lead in this case???? That is exciting to me! Beats sitting here slamming each other huh???? cool!
Karen has a heart of gold 😀
Karen…don’t get banned! Your a voice here and your needed. Realistically, those “people” will never go away! There will always be someone else to replace them. So we stick together to get to the bottom of this story (again, no matter what it is). I think we could all be an asset to Jan and Simon if we look past the “select few” who don’t care to be a part of the resolution process. 🙂
Sassy, she does. She CARES…how can she not have a big heart. I like blogging with people who give a darn! 🙂
Thanks Sassy!
I hope people understand my feelings. I posted a while back about my nephew being put in jail for accusations of molesting his step daughter. The child’s father had filed the charges out of revenge. They were later dropped.The pain that this caused this child and our family was unbelievable.
So as I watched the video of this little girl I was initially shocked. But the memories of my nephew having to spend Christmas Day in jail then flooded back to me.
I have foster nieces who have been abused in many different ways.
So please try to understand me. I do recognise that this child is suffering. I just honestly don’t know at whose hands.
Somebody, I used to be a foster parent too. I took in young children. We had a 2 1/2 year old boy that was placed with us. Allegedly his mom had sexually abused him. He was only 2 1/2 and the things he could tell you about what was “going on”….SO heartbreaking. He “acted out alot”. He was out of the home for almost 5 years before they sent him back. She sexually abused him again and they eventually terminated her parental rights. So my thinking is always to “error” on the side of the child who may need protection.
CHSAH
You are too sweet. Nice breath of fresh air.
I too am calling it a night. Hope to chat with you again soon.
Put me on your list of people who “give a darn”
Hugs & goodnight
Somebody:
Before I go,,,I feel your hurt and pain for the false accusation. I think it SUCKS. I think there should be consequences for men or women who falsely accuse others of child abuse.
It makes it so much more difficult for those who are being abused get to the front of the line because the system is so backed up with false claims. I do understand.
Goodnight to you too hon. 😀
Somebody, it is understandable for you to feel the way you do under the circumstances you went thru. Thank you for sharing b/c it always helps us to see why one thinks the way they do.
Your last comment (So please try to understand me. I do recognise that this child is suffering. I just honestly don’t know at whose hands.)…..says what many of us feel in here….I have no doubt that in time, we WILL know and all I ask from anyone who comes in this blog…is to either assist Jan and Simon in getting to the bottom of this…or let them do their job. I think that’s fair and I am going to bet YOU do too. 🙂
Suggesting that you will check with your sis-in-law says alot about your reason for being in here…because YOU do care and YOU want to help be a part of the solution. I like you! 🙂
Nite sassy! Thank you. It’s nice to see all the good hearts working together tonite. 🙂
Thank you for letting me get that out.
I see the children my brother’s family parent and they carry so much baggage (their abuses). Children should not have all of those worries.
I pray Aaliyah will have the peace and security she deserves.
Good Nite All,
Thanks for listening and understanding.
Somebody, it is sad that people do get falsely accused also. You can share anytime with me, I had not read that experience you shared before and I do feel for your family. No, I don’t know you personally, but I read the pain it caused you and I have compassion for you. You are here for the right reasons.
Nite somebody….
Sassy, you are so right in your comment to Somebody about their being consequences for being falsely accused. Somebody is a prime example of good people being hurt by the system that is suppose to protect us all. It seems atleast in the case of Somebody, that they are trying to direct their emotions from this experience in the right direction. THAT is the good in all the bad. 🙂
ps…Somebody, understanding you was the EASY part….THANK YOU, for taking the time to explain your feelings, THAT had to be the hard part for you. God bless you and your family!
Well better shut it down for tonite (my puter!)…lol. It was a blessing to have all of you here tonight. I leave with a feeling of accomplishment on OUR part that we understand each other and that we agree to respectfully disagree. Yes….we had a “select few” tonight but notice when the teamwork kicked in….they disappeared. 🙂 It is always obvious as to who REALLY cares to be here b/c they stick around and (maturely) expresses their opinions. Is there a right or wrong on this case???? Only if one comes in with guns a blazing and leaves with guns a blazing! THANKS to ALL of you who helped make this a productive nite. 🙂
P.s..jan and Simon, THANK YOU for giving us a place to blog about this case. YOU will prevail!
Just came back to check in on the discussion, and first of all I do want to mention I don’t notice too many ‘new’ names in this forum, other than mine and maybe two others. So I can only hope those types of comments are reserved for those other than me. If not it would be time for me, myself to take a defensive position.
I notice most of the same people here actually who care enough to come back and voice their opinion. Considering I am one of the few that wasn’t constantly putting my two cents in- in no way means I am just someone who switched my name to come and post.
Up until I read that idea being commented a couple times, I had alot of respect for the ideas in here.
Once someone makes comments like this is some sort of a clique nobody else can contribute to- it made me a bit edgy I must tell you. This should definitely be something to consider, as not only might you hurt someones feelings, you can also so obviously be wrong about sOme things.
KARENCCC I have read all of your comments on this blog since may 4th. I have valued your opinion and felt your distress when people have ‘attacked’ with differing opinions. I hope none of you will let the petty things that can be thrown back and forth in a forum, affect your support of this case and support of others who would like to see true Justice prevail in this case.
I, myself am in support of the Bedwells, and will continue supporting their cause until this has been fully investigated for the sake of this child. I will not be deterred by nasty people who cannot comprehend how I would support this cause.
hi all…maybee today will be the day for good news for Aaliyah….funny i want to call all the children we blog about our children, i always feel a special bond with them, ive cried over these children, and had my heart hurrt so much, its time for some good news!!!!
Butters @ 8:21 pm You said, “.. I really hope this blog wasn’t torn apart and turned against each other over the rants of a vengeful mother.”
No, the troubles plaguing this blog were not caused by the mother or the father. They were caused by people who cannot debate in a civilized fashion, respect the right of others to have a different opinion, who harrass and harangue and badger when they KNOW the answers are not available yet, when they KNOW that some people are actively searching for the answers, and who DEMAND as if it’s their God-given right to be spoon-fed the information they couldn’t be bothered to find WHEN they want it! No, the troubles on this blog were caused by bloggers themselves NOT the mother or father no matter what’s going on.
Oh, and also caused by people who can’t be bothered to respect or abide by the wishes of our hosts. If I went into someone’s house with my hat on and they asked me nicely to take it off and I refused and they explained that it was temporary and it was important to them and I still argued with them about their right to even ask me remove my hat, then I would not be surprised to find my butt out on the street very quickly. The hosts would be well within their right to put me there.
Sassy and CH, thank you so much for the compliments. They do mean a lot.
Bunny, I was not speaking about you as in being new. I was speaking of people who used to post under certain names and now post under different ones. But as Simon has pointed out, they may be able to change names, but their writing doesn’t. I’m sorry if you thought I was speaking to you. I enjoy the new people that come here to post, I enjoy everyone that posts here as long as they are not accusing and attacking. I understand they think they are asking questions, but it just seems to me they are asking in an accusatory way. I don’t know if that makes sense….but thank you for being here. This little one needs all the help she can get.
m2c, you have been a voice of reason for a while now, thank you for your support as well. I hope we can continue to post about this case with respect and dignity. I for one will not reply to those who are here for trouble. I encourage questions, and I will answer them if I can. But I don’t need to be attacked for knowing the answers.
Thank you to all of you! Anna, I too, hope today will be the day of great and happy news for Aaliyah!
M2c- Very well written. Your explanation should be very easy for everyone to understand. You are absolutely right. Thank you for putting that in a way that makes it simple to understand. Theres a difference between blogging constructively and just coming in to argue and fight. It important to blog without personally attacking each other that just makes hurt feelings and doesnt get to the bottom of anything. God Bless the children.
Karen- Hang in there with Gods help the truth will come out!
m2c you are right the mother and father had nothing to do with this blog and how people acted on it…even with a separate blogs the anger people have showed thru..i dont understand why…
m2c is always a voice of reason her posta are always informative and helpfull♥ and she helped me make these♥▼♫§♠♣♦♪ 🙂
This is the latest comment from the Auburn Journal, think Connie be interested?
On 5/18/09 at 07:49 AM, DocJoeSaturley wrote:
I am a child custody expert in Florida who appears on the nationally syndicated Bubba The Love Sponge Show. I am willing to come to California and conduct a neutral evaluation of this entire situation pro bono.
This child deserves a thorough evaluation of all family members and the situation. The Judge needs eyes and ears from an expert.
I read about 1/3 of the way down the comments & wanted to respond to the person who was saying that dad’s (and dad’s family’s) lack of response seemed telling in some way.
My husband’s ex spent years & years slandering him, bringing false accusations to court or just to the court of public opinion. He learned pretty early on that he could waste his child’s entire lifetime defending himself against the accusations -or- he could just use that ‘defending time (and money)’ to get on with parenting as best he could.
He decided to let as much of it slide as possible (doing just as much as was necessary to maintain his joint custody and parenting time) and get on with parenting. Kids don’t wait to grow up – it happens whether the parents (or a parent) are selfish & twisted or not.
i guess ‘stick a fork in it, i am done’ just doesn’t mean what it used to, does it papa…
concerned @ 11:15 am – Another question is will the father allow it?
Momof1: “I can see how this will play out…. WHEN the allegations are shown as untrue, you will all state. Folks we got to the truth… just as we said and have washed your hands. Sadly, if that is the case you will have been part of the vilification of an innocent father and exploiting an innocent child.”
Great post. The truth is, none of these folks has the full story of anything. In their mind they’d like to believe that but no. This is totaly one sided. It’s charged as guilty. I’m just waiting for the evidence. Listen, the mother does not have custody so she is not pure as the driven snow. Most fathers do not have custody of their children unless, fact be the mother is unsuitable and/or visitation because she may endanger the welfare of her child. She cannot even take Aaliyah for the weekend? People are making character calls on a man,the father they have never even met before. They are hearing “allegations” or a “claim” of child abuse.
The truth may be, this case was looked into hard for people to accept (maybe) and no fault is found but for some folks, we need the constant drama and go in guns blazing.
Either way, if this turns our to be untrue, Aaliyah is still victimized and the father’s image tarnished. If the child is found to be sexually abused, her name is forever written on internet blogs forever in her remembrance and that “daddy’s worm” vid uploaded and downloaded.
The reason the father and his family refuse to comment is because they respect the family court judge and his gag order.
This mother is not just breaking a court order, she’s committing child abuse. She could have done all of this without ever exposing her daughter’s name and face.
Give this poor little girl her privacy!
Teri the father and the family are most definitely NOT under ANY gag order. Connie once had a restraining order on him which is no longer standing.
Kat, huh?
Bunny, YOU were most CERTAINLY NOT inlcuded in the reference to those that wish to come in and cause trouble in this blog. No one thinks you switched your name as far as I can tell. You have no reason to do so either…..you have been respectful since you came in. We welcome you in here. If you have a difference in opinion of others in here, (pro or against) we would love to hear it. With what you’ve written so far…..it appears you are one who knows how to blog respectfully. 🙂
Chipoltespice said,in May 18th, 2009 at 3:46 pm This is totaly one sided. It’s charged as guilty. I’m just waiting for the evidence. Listen, the mother does not have custody so she is not pure as the driven snow. Most fathers do not have custody of their children unless, fact be the mother is unsuitable and/or visitation because she may endanger the welfare of her child.
You have me confused? Who’s charged as guilty? I haven’t seen anywhere that this is the case. Did I miss something? Some in here agree he’s guilty, some do not, some just plain haven’t made up their mind.
I disagree with your comment that most fathers do not have custody of their kids unless the mother is unfit. This is not the 60, 70, 80’s or even 90’s…..it’s the millenium. Maybe this mother felt she couldn’t be the mother she thought she should be and TRUSTED the dad to take care of the girl? Maybe, this mother loved her daughter and wanted better for her…and THOUGHT she’d get it from him? Maybe she just didn’t want to be a mother at that time. I give more respect to women who DO give their parental custody rights to the dad instead of thinking of their own selfish wants?? I don’t know that ANY of this is the case but, I don’t think it’s fair to speculate as to why the mom doesn’t have custody?? Just some thoughts.
Kat, care to explain? you lost me! lol..
Chipoltespice said,in May 18th, 2009 at 3:46 pm Either way, if this turns our to be untrue, Aaliyah is still victimized and the father’s image tarnished. If the child is found to be sexually abused, her name is forever written on internet blogs forever in her remembrance and that “daddy’s worm” vid uploaded and downloaded.
You are ABSOLUTELY right about that. I’d like to add that it may turn out that the Connie is a victim in all this as well, let’s not forget that either.
What’s been put on the internet is done. That can’t be changed. What can be changed, is to bring out the awareness of these types of situations, whether it be a “hoax” or “fact” so that it may be prevented from happening to another family.
Be back later!
CHSAH, Especially to another family in Placer County…..
And maybe this case will make other small town good ole’ boy networks think twice about bending the rules however they want – not saying this is for sure the situation in Placer County but it could well be – unfortunately. And/or maybe it will make other Child Protective Services take their responsibilities more seriously and do the right thing. Just some of the possible good outcomes of this.
Amen to that m2c!
Nite all.
chsah (snowhorse queen) and karen: with regards to what i said, i directed a comment to papa, whom i think has changed his name to something else to post here…i have been looking at another blog and the bashing and ridiculing by some old bloggers that were here has gotten the better of me…papa in particular, he kept stating he was DONE with this case, yet it appears he spends all his waking hours trying to discredit this case, this blog, karenccc, annea, jan and simon…i dunno why this story has everyone up in arms, either for or against it, i mean some of the posts i have read elsewhere seems like highschool drama to me…and i think he is posting here under a different name is all…if they think bnn is now so horrible, why do they keep haunting the place?
Kat, I totally agree. AnneA said yesterday that it’s like a bad break up.
Teri, privacy is no longer an issue in this case.
Yes, we can debate the ethics of using the girl’s name and of the posting of the video and any other actions which have violated her privacy.
But that discussion would be pointless in regards to this particular case because the privacy is gone, for good or for bad, it is gone.
There is no longer an option to give anyone a break. It has all gone too far. There are too many unanswered questions and too many accussations from all sides. There seem to be a lot of motives from every player and even from those not directly involved.
The only possible way forward is for an unbiased third party review the entire case and perhaps all of the legal procedures of Placer County. It looks like this is in the works.
CHSAH said: This is not the 60, 70, 80’s or even 90’s…..it’s the millenium. Maybe this mother felt she couldn’t be the mother she thought she should be and TRUSTED the dad to take care of the girl? Maybe, this mother loved her daughter and wanted better for her…and THOUGHT she’d get it from him? Maybe she just didn’t want to be a mother at that time. I give more respect to women who DO give their parental custody rights to the dad instead of thinking of their own selfish wants?? I don’t know that ANY of this is the case but, I don’t think it’s fair to speculate as to why the mom doesn’t have custody?? Just some thoughts.
That’s total BS…..You really don’t believe that? My thoughts….
CHSAH: What’s been put on the internet is done. That can’t be changed. What can be changed, is to bring out the awareness of these types of situations, whether it be a “hoax” or “fact” so that it may be prevented from happening to another family.
Yes, this I agree on. I don’t know if this is hoax or fiction and am unbiased with this but the way people are talking about this father, they have accused them in their hearts due to the “one sided” nature of this. This is not the fault of any blog. The father is charged with a very horrible crime and he only needs to make this plea in court to his innocence or guilt, that’s what matters. In the end, when the media goes to sleep on this it does not matter what you or I think, or Jan an Simon, what will be will be. The fight is between Connie and the father. If this is a false claim filed against the father, Connie will have bigger problems and a new blog begins……If the father is guilty, may he pay dearly.
Chiplotespice, honestly, I don’t know what to think and I’m not making a judgement on this either way. Do I believe that what I said about the mother might be true (custody issue), yes because I myself know mothers who gave their rights up because they didn’t feel they could be a good mother. Proudly to say, I have an adopted son because of one such mother. To me….that is the ultimate UNSELFISH act that any mother could do for her child. Your right to see it as BS…..my right to be more open minded.
CHSAH: Chiplotespice, honestly, I don’t know what to think and I’m not making a judgement on this either way. Do I believe that what I said about the mother might be true (custody issue), yes because I myself know mothers who gave their rights up because they didn’t feel they could be a good mother. Proudly to say, I have an adopted son because of one such mother. To me….that is the ultimate UNSELFISH act that any mother could do for her child. Your right to see it as BS…..my right to be more open minded.
In maybe 1/2% of cases. The 99/98% parental rights are terminated on the fault of the mother due to negligence.
Most of the cases (I’m speaking divorce, custody issues), the child is TAKEN by a court order if they are not to remain with the parents.
Some mothers give up their child because they are selfish, they only care about themself and you’re right, they know they will not be good mothers, that is dead on. Once a mother gives a child up for adoption, she surrenders custody of the child. I was adopted when I was an child, I’m not going there, this is not the issue.This situation has nothting to do with adoption, this is a divorce case where there was a custody issue (divorce) and it was rewared to the father for whatever reason(s).
Most cases, “live in” custody is placed with the mother unless the court has other reasons not to. Even if “live in” custody is placed with the mother, both mother/father still can have “joint” custody. Clearly, Connie Bedwell does not fit this mold. She has no parental rights, no custody and has supervised visitation(s). My gut tells me, she did not give up her child for “unselfish” reasons, otherwise she would not have supervised visitation and she could take Aaliyah for weekend visits to her home.
We don’t know why Connie Bedwell does not have custody of her child and she chooses not to discuss this…….Oh my wild imagination.
Wow…that was A LOT of reading!!
Forgive me all for not participating in everyday posting—I am still lurking.
Concerned,
You must be quite the guy, so willing to come out cali on a pro bono trip to do a job that has been done by how many experts already?? Get it through your heads!! THE CASE IS CLOSED!!There is a gag order, which is being violated!!
This home doctor video is the biggest joke I have ever heard!!The family who deserves custody has custody!! Do you even know any of the whole story, other than a one sided spin story from a CULT? Nor will you because,oh ya the case is closed!! Doesn’t make you wonder what an out of county unbiased judge saw to take away a mothers custody!! Most rationally thinking people would!But I guess that’s asking a little much from a one sided hate group!
P.S.
Lets look at the suggestion that people say placer county officials are corrupt!! does it make sense that a whole county of officials would jeopardize their careers and families well being for the sake of one guy? Sounds pretty far fetch to me!! GROW UP!!!!
Stop,
When did an out of county judge take away the mother’s custody?
Connie’s family is now a cult? Since when?
If the case is closed as you say why are there current investigations as has been recently confirmed by people other than the Bedwell family?
Stop,
There is an open investigation on Dustin Thompson with the APD, although they still haven’t contacted any witnesses of the Bedwell family.
The new judge hasn’t taken custody away from the mother. The new judge upheld the restraining order. Which I believe was so he/she could read up on all the bull crap that the mother has had to deal with for the past 2 years.
Cult, you make me laugh. Weren’t you on the Auburn Journal comment page? You sound sooooooo familiar.
as others would say….”follow the white rabbit!” 120929. 🙂
Actually Connie and Dustin had shared custody until July 3 2008 when according to Connie, the Step program reduced her to only supervised visitation.
The tape was made June9,2008, Connie went to police June 10th, Dustin had the baby from June 10 to June 15. On June 15 Connie went to the hospital and asked for some type of authorization from police and got none so she left. Connie had the baby through the MDIC interview on June 23, and She went to a meeting at the Step program July 1,2008, and custody was changed from shared 50/50 to the 2 supervised visits a week on Jul 3,2008. It has remained that way since.
Connie gets to go back to court on June 1.
Got all this from the Bubba the Love Sponge Aaliyah page and Child Protection Community sites.
So no the new judge has not decided yet, and definitely has not changed custody or visitation.
Need More, who are you talking to? LOL!! Please go and register so you can talk to us in the forums. For some reason, I know when someone posts on Aaliyah’s articles. Is that weird or what? But I’m sure they’ll turn off these comments too once they see we have posted here!
HI KarenCCC. It does no good to post in the forums if I am trying to get information out to the public who google the case.
I am talking to people who may still read here, but like me will not join member only forums.
I am trying to find and cross post as much info as possible in order to keep people willing to write letters and send emails to get this resolved.
PLEASE KEEP EMAILING LETTERS DEMANDING A BETTER INVESTIGATION!! All that matters is this child being safe!
Need More, I thank you so much and I understand. But what if they turn all the comments off on these articles? I would love to give you my email so if they do, I can get you the information you need. You don’t need to post in the new forum, but you will be able to get information. I just have a feeling all of the comments are going to be shut off. Let me know how to get information to you.
Leave A Reply