International condemnation intensify over Mugabe’s brutal rule
Amin George Forji
With the humanitarian and political situation in Zimbabwe deteriorating from bad to worse on a daily basis, the African Union and Southern African countries who have since kept a tradition of silence on the matter, have now began coming out of he bag, following the brutal crackdown on a peaceful opposition rally last Sunday, and the eventual torture of leaders of the Movement for Democratic Change (MDC) at police cells. The British PM, Tony Blair on Sunday told parliament that he will press other EU states for new sanctions on Mugabe.
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“We will press the European Union to widen the political sanctions that were introduced in 2002 and introduced very much as a result of our prompting at the time,…We will be urging partners in both those institutions to come out with strong statements against what is happening in Zimbabwe, which is appalling, disgraceful and utterly tragic for the people of Zimbabwe, ” Blair said.
Of the condemnations from within and withal Africa, the most outstanding so far has undoubtedly been that of Zambian president, Levy Mwanawasa, who has implied that intervention, most probably military action will be the last resort to rescue the people of Zimbabwe who have suffered for too long. Describing Zimbabwe as a “sinking Titanic”, Mwanawasa early this week, while on a state visit to Namibia suggested that Southern African countries should get out of he cold and rescue the poor passengers (people of Zimbabwe, because as he put it:
“Quiet diplomacy has failed to help solve the political chaos and economic meltdown in Zimbabwe,” Mwanawasa remarked.
“As I speak right now, one SADC country has sunk into such economic difficulties that it may be likened to a sinking Titanic whose passengers are jumping out in a bid to save their lives.”
Zambian papers have since reported that the government of Mwanawasa is really fed up with Mugabe and consequently is soon going to take a stand on Zimbabwe, in cooperation with the Southern African Development Community (SADC). This has been interpreted to suggest that a military solution is most likely already on the table of Mwanawasa.
Even if nothing happens in the end, it will be the furthest comments and stand ever made on Zimbabwe by an African nation, since the crises erupted in 2000.
“Zambia has so far been an advocate of quiet diplomacy and continues to believe in it. But the twist of events in the troubled country necessitates the adoption of a new approach,” Mwanawasa warned on Monday.
Zimbabwe’s 83 years old president and pioneer leader since independence in 1980, Robert Mugabe, after initially putting the country on a very good footing, has since 2000 made a u-turn in his policies, hence ruling with an iron fist, or as international media have it, “a reign of terrorâ€.
After his brutal crackdown on an opposition rally last Sunday, a statement from the African Union called for “respect for human rights and democratic principles in Zimbabwe.” Although this was a rather mild condemnation from a body of it’s calibre, it is the furthest it has ever gone on criticizing the human rights atrocities of the Mugabe regime. Analysts welcomed the statement with the hope that it will be the beginning of the end of the political blind eye she has given on major crises rocking the continent.
South Africa, a giant in Southern Africa, and Zimbabwe’s highest donor of aide, also for the first time also came out of the cold criticizing the torture as well as urged the government of Mugabe to respect the rule of law.
Despite universal condemnation on his brutal rule, especially from Western countries , economic sanctions as well as an EU ban on his person and his government officials from traveling to the EU, his regime has survived, deposing white farmers of their farms and lands and escheating them to friends and party supporters, with no mechanical agriculture background; the regime has further placed the country o a perpetual state of emergency, outlawing political gatherings, putting opposition activists to jail, demolishing houses of opposition supporters, amongst other atrocities. The country has the worst human rights record in Southern Africa, and in fact ne of the very worst in the whole world. All foreign media are banned from broadcasting in Zimbabwe except Al Jazeera and South African networks.
Zimbabwe has been in perpetual economic decline ever since President Robert Mugabe began seizing large commercial farms from white farmers in 2000, handing them over to landless blacks, most of whom have no mechanical farming experience. Mugabe has categorically denied that his land reform program contributed to the food crisis, instead attributing the problem to natural causes and consistent drought.
The situation is so precarious that the cost of bread (if at all available) has risen by over 70 percent, pushing Zimbabwe’s inflation rate to more than 1600 percent, the highest in the world.More than 40% of school age are unable to attend enroll in primary school nowadays, less to talk of daily meal, although the country once had the highest literacy rate in the continent.
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Follow-up comment rss or Leave a TrackbackEither this is a rude joke or it is a culculated ploy to provoke another military outbreak in Southern Africa. First, Zambia’s rag-tag military is no match for Zimbabwe’s battle-hardened military machine. I might add that, unfortunately, this military machine is still loyal to dictator Robert Mugabe. Second, a military intervention in Zimbabwe by any external force will provoke a multi-nation conflict. If recent media reports are to be taken seriously, Zimbabwe and Angola just signed a security pact. We don’t know exactly what that entails but you can be sure one of the countries in Southern Africa will defend Mugabe. Namibia was partnered with Zimbabwe in the DRC fiasco. South Africa has consistently considered Mugabe’s stolen mandate legitimate. Who will partner with Zambia? Botswana? Please do the math. I’d personally assassinate Robert Mugabe but only at the instigation of Zimbabweans. Africans should resist being used by Western elements addicted to the spectre of Africans killing each other like barbarians.
To Obert Madondo: While I agree that this a silly suggestion ochestrated to inflame the situation in Southern Africa, I vehemently disagree and am actually enraged with your suggestion that our military is a rag-tag one. Am a Zambian, currently living in South Africa. I lived in Harare, Zimbabwe from 2003 up to February 2006 and was therefore was in the thick of things when things were crumbling. I also grew up in Livingstone, Zambia and was priviledged to enter Zimbabwe on Independence Day in 1980 and many times thereafter, so I know the damage thats been done to your country. But this forever condescending attitude some of you Zimbabweans have had towards Zambians and others you feel are lesser than you must stop. YOU NEED HELP & YOU NEED IT URGENTLY. President Mwanawasa is just trying to help. Dont scorn someone who tries to help. South Africa, who you forever think is the only country that can help you has so far shown no interest. So wake up and stop being silly. You either sort this Bob mess yourselves or accept any help you can get. And my friend Obert, if you want to try our army boys, you will get a nasty surprise my friend. “Rag-tag….”; stop being so full of yourself! Please!!!!
I am Zambian and have been a frequent visitor to Zimbabwe since they got their Independence. Therefore, I am am fully aware of the events there and the level of socio-economic deterioration. First, I agree with the Brian that Zimbabwe needs help FAST. We need the African Governments to intervene in a more proactive way. It is clear keeping passive support or lack of it has not helped at all. Unfortunately, when Zimbabwe goes down, it will take some of its African Neighbours with it. So the Neigbours, need to do a cost-benefit analysis of keeping quiet or taking action.
Now what does this action mean. I think the Author exaggerated (like many Journalists trying to get attention do) by implying that President Mwanawasa thinks that Military action is the solution to solve this Bob Mess. A reasonable third party cannot interpret that by reading what President Mwanawasa said. If you read his verbatim speech, he never said that. So I think the author is instoigating violence. Maybe that is his wish. A wish which won’t solve the problem.
As for Obert, talking about Zambia not being a match for Zimbabwe when the Zambian President did not talk about Zambia taking on Zimbabwe is falling into the Author’s mouse trap (like a blind bad). Such talk is childih an dyields no progress.
Guys, talk about real issues. We arent children at primary school talking about ‘hometime fights’.
I think having the SADC countrie sit down and review the current Bob Mess is the way to go. I dont think a military solution will be their first option. There is no doubt they need a more aggressive dialogue with Bob. They need to make a strong position that the status quo is not accpetable. They need to propose a programme of change and a time line. If Bob does not change all the SADC countries will suffer in the long term.
Can the SADC, Presidents take a strong position against Bob? That is the million dollar question. So far the African Union has been a let down on us all. I hope the African Presidents will wake up to the Challenge.
And to contributors and journalists ‘STOP PUTTING WORDS IN PEOPLE’s MOUTHS’. Use quotes. If you have an opinion don’t use someone’s words and make a false interpretation. they would say it if they wanted to.
Peace to you all.
Jetty
Using the Balkans conflict as an example, dictators have a tendency to only understand one language: the threat of violence. Milosevic was quite willing for his nation to slip into economic and political abyss provided he and his cronies remained unaffected. This was until the NATO threatened to march onto Belgrade. Some even argue that the main perpetuator at Srebrenica was this thing known as Quite Diplomacy.
In short, nothing should ever be ruled out when dealing with a rogue regime intent on inflicting more pain on its population.
As for the Zimbabwean Army, well, i think the only battle-hardened armies in that region are those belonging to South Africans and Angolans. Both the Zimbabwean Army (ZNA) and Air Force of Zimbabwe (AFZ) have seen very little action since 1980. Indeed, there was a period when the ZNA (and the Fifth Brigade) ended the Matabele rebellion but this mainly consisted of the torture and killing of a civilian population. Their involvement in the DRC was more political than militaristic in value. The former Rhodesian Army, on the other hand, was a different kettle of fish. It would therefore be folly of the Zimbabwean army or anyone to quickly dismiss an Army which at one time concurrently and single-handedly fought two enemies along three international borders in the late 70s. It might also be worth mentioning the enemies in question are no longer in existence today…
At independence day celebrations in 1980 , in Zimbabwe , one of the regional leaders who attended the celebrations was the late Mwalimu Jurius Nyerere. As the celebrations were under way, he told Comrade Mugabe, ” My friend, you have inherited a jewel ( in reference to Zimbabwe’s apparent edge in development stature in contrast to some other former members of the federation of Nyasaland, Southern and Northern Rhodesia ), please do not spoil it.” What has Mugabe done instead……………………….
May the soul of that wise Mzee rest in peace ( JN- M.H.S.R.I.E.P).
He was very prophetic on Mugabe, by speaking as if he knew what lay ahead of the Bob administration. I am not suprised that Tanzania is advocating that he be canonized as a Saint! Mugabe has not heeded the old adage ” To be fore-warned is to be fore-armed.” Zimbabwe is now a spoiled jewel!
I am a zimbabwean,and i do not wish to make any comments on the debate.However,i am equally offended by Obert,calling the zambian army rag tag and would like to say to Brian yuyi,that is not the opinion of every zimba.I think Obert should apologies to Brian and all the zambians.This mentality of looking down upon others is actually a colonial mentality that was promoted during the colonial years.The plain truth is that most of us zimbas,dont know much about zambia,because we never went there,and my brother Obert you cannot make a judgement about the zambian army.To cut a long story short,you can’t say that about your brothers in zambia,yuo really cant and should apologise please and change that mentality altogether and stop playing into the hands of those who actually want to devide us………
According to Adam Davids, in his moving from a culture of war to a culture of peace(2004), conflicts are only possible if people are provided with an enemy, armament, rules that they have to follow and the need to gain profits. I am half Zambian and half Zimbabwean. I do not think Mwanawansa has all these on his side. Of course other than Mugabe being a tyrany and breaking human right laws, he has not commited a crime against Zambia, but the World at large. Therefore Mwanawansa should not just come out of the bug and present himself and Zambia as an enemy to Zimbabwe. If he presents Zambia as an enemy, external forces like , the West will come in and influence war between Zambia and Zimbambwe, knowing that both Countries are mineral rich. They will want to benefit.
Mwanawansa should continue using diplomacy as a way to resolve the issue. We need to move from a culture of violence. Lets replace military force with diplomacy. The same should go for Robert Mugabe.
On the other hand however, if all fails, then the international community can come together and impose military action. War works at time. However, nobody wins a war. It takes alot of resources, time and lives. This was proved by the Biafra war in Nigeria. Although it took military action, both the Government and the Igbo people retrogressed. Lets say no to war.
The least we want in southern Africa is military conflict. We have a lot to. Bob’s behavior is symptomatic of the bigger problems to which we have the responsibility to find solution. Pushing us to the edge of war or even a suggestion of it is savagery of the worst kind. There are some nations which believe victory at the battle field is a proof of might in. Zambia and Zambians should resist the temeptation to consort with nationals of such orientation. Fela Ransom Anikulapo Kuti said,” War has never solved a human problem; it is not a solution and will never be one.” How long will it take for mortal man to realize that the perceived banefits of war should also acrue to those who perish at the height of war. Anyone who suggested that the might of one country should be decided by how many of its people it can execute to prove how seriously it takes it point of view, no proponent of war would be allowed time at the mic. What I am suggesting here is that we should condemn in the strongest of terms any earthling who starts and fans rumors of war regardless of their nationality. This includes Amin Geroge Forji. Grow up, people!
Thanks to all who have contributed to this debate so far. I unreservedly welcome all the criticism to my assertions and the advice given. I’ll most definitely respond. It is my view that we rarely have platform to share views independent of the established position. We have created space for intelligent though sometimes emotive dialogue. Why not democratize the space by letting others contribute? I also want to avoid inflammation. I’m therefore proposing that I delay responding to the concerns raised until more people have chipped in? If my suggestion is disagreeable, please let me know.
seriously , president Mugabe has brought the country to its knees. For those of you debating whether or not Mr. Mwanawasa is right in saying what he said, consider this. What are the millions suffering in that country feel? true war has never solved a human problem but i say if it benefits the people then its a sacrifice worth taking.What your solution, wait it out? Why should we put a time table on when the innocent citizens of Zimbabwe get relief from this tyranny?Remove him(Mugabe) , even by force if necessary. In the end , they get a fresh start. But all these Neighboring countries and The AU should help In every way possible to help the country get back on it’s feet,. If you’re reading this and still feel no one other than zimbabwe can clean this mess , you’re mistaken and probably just backward.
Zambia’s “rag-tag” army is one of the reasons, if not the primary reason, why Zimbabwe won its independence in 1980. Much of that war was fought on Zambian soil, with Zambian soldiers and the Zambia Airforce (ZAF) fighting Ian Smith’s attacks on Zimbabwean freedom fighter refugees in Zambia. Many of my neighbors and some military family friends died in that war (I grew up near a military base that was subject to many of Ian Smith’s attacks). Unfortunately, Obert Madondo’s attitude is simply exemplary of too many Zimbabweans opinion about Zambia, even as they scrounge around Zambia today in search of food. What a sorry ingrate you are!
This is idiotic. George Bush has infected your mind.
Even spreading a rumour about war could hurt business in Zambia…
I am a Zimbabwean living in Harare I dont understand all the fuss about my country. As far as I know Zambians and us are our brothers. Zambia would never invade Zimbabwe. Africans rely too much on western media. Zimbabwe is not on fire there were localised protests in one surburb or the the other and thats about it. As we speak thre is peace and quiet.
Opposition physically attacked police ,so what did you want the police to do roll over and die?. Opposition leaders were there encouraging their so called Democratic resistance Comitees to attack police or any thing to do with gvt like gvt buses etc . While there must be democry in Zim, violence must not be allowed. Western Media is exaggerating everything about Zimbabwe. It was wrong to beat up opposition leaders but it was also wrong for them to attack police. Dont belive westrn media take it with a pinch of salt the BBC ,and Britaion have their own agenda in Zimbabwe. They want to teach Africa a lessen. Never take back what is yours from the white man.
Musole you seem energized by the suggestion of conflict. You probabbly have never seen the color of a bullet in its flight towards your head in the depth of night. Suggestion to you dady O, go it alone if you feel that strongly. Lead the way, up your bamboo stick and got get Bob. Don’t wait for others to do it for you. Show us some fire! We may just believe you. What do you have to lose?
This goes to the so called Obert Madondo.
Either you were too young or not yet born when the war of Zimbabwe’s independence was being fought on Zambian soil by our gallant Zambia National Defence Force (in which case you should be forgiven) or you are just a typical ungratiful spoilt brat too full of himself to acknowlege competence in other people. The force you condenscedingly call rag tag was able to withstand Ian Smith and keep apartheid South Africa sponsored RENAMO at bay. Through our logistical and military material support, the freedom fighters from Zimbabwe were eventually able to bring Smith to the negotiating table. But all this does not matter to you. You are just too happy in your ignorance, thinking all is well with the ‘battle hardened Zimbabwe National Army’. Good luck my friend. We will see how far that attitude will lead you and your country.
Anyway, Zambia has always used the way of peace to achieve whatever it is that we have achieved and the journalist that was putting words in Levy’s mouth was just embarrassing himself and his paymasters. We shall never wage war on any of our neighbours. It is just so sad and frustrating to see all these once proud Zimbabweans selling sweets in the streets of Lusaka and Copperbelt. The Zimbabwean prostitutes in Livingstone have divised ways of attracting more customers by offering their services via a pay slow process. And they still need Bob Mugabe!
Zimbos grow up. Where is Nyerere, Kaunda, Nkrumah, Toure, Ben Bella, Tafawa Balewa, Azikiwe… Gone in to history books. You don’t need to be lead by a freedom fighter, three decades after independence.
History repeats itself. What happened to Zambia in the late 80s and early 90s is happening to Zimbabwe now. Former President Kaunda then decided to abandon the IMF and World Bank and refused to pay the World Bank debt. Kaunda was punished and most of us Zambians ignorantly heaped blame on Kaunda as the cause of all the economic malaise. In fact, for us near the Zimbabwean border, we survived by help from the gracious people of Zimbabwe. They were friends in need and we are morally obliged to reciprocate now. Surprisingly, immediately a pro western and capitalistic government of Chiluba came into power, the economy drastically changed for the better. Now we understand, it was just western manipulation and I think the situation is the same for Zimbabwe.
No doubt Mugabe is my hero on Land re-distribution and history shall absolve him. For me, the economy of Zimbabwe is deteriorating not by natural causes but by artificial and capitalistic manipultaion by Tony Blair and Bush whose interest is continuation of land distribution imbalance againist the indigenous Zimbabwean. The capitalists have no interest in us the indigenous people, they are only interested in their fellow hardcore capitalist farmers in Zimbabwe.
Comparing strengths of armies as if it is football will not help Zimbabwe late alone Zambia. In matters of army strength, the story of David and Goliath in the Bible speak volumes. The solution first lies in Zimbabweans themselves. However, my concern is on democracy and human rights. We may not have all the facts that led to the Tsvangarai torture, but I am concerned that whatever reasons, a citizen should be bruptalised like that by fellow citizens. I personally don’t like Tsvangarai’s pro-west stance but I respect his rights and democratic freedoms like I do even for Comrade Obert Madando.
Never should we ever be divided and ruled as in the past. The article from Amin George Forji of BNN is exactly aimed at dividing us Zambians from Zimbabweans for the good of the west.
Daniel Maimbo
Lusaka, Zambia
Who saved Joshua Nkomo’s life when Ian Smith tried to kill him in Lusaka? It was the Zambian military personnel. Who saved Mugabe when Smith was hot on his heels? It was the Zambian military personnel. Who saved Tongogara in Lusaka against the Rhodesians? It was the Zambian military personnel. Which country in Southern Africa put itself at the epicentre of the liberation wars? It was Zambia. Which country in Souther Africa withstood and survived an-all frontall assault (Portuguese on the east and west, Rhodesians and apartheid South Africa on the south)? It was Zambia. Does all this show ‘a rag-tag’ army. Get to grips with reality, Obert.
Just to say that if we want to give opinions on an issue, those opinions should be based on facts. In this case, a discussion has been perpetuated, and people offloaded their emotions, on an issue whose base/foundation is wrong. Obert Madondo did not take care to appreciate the situation and inquire the ‘what’ aspects of this issue before responding in the manner he did, thereby going off tangent and raising issues totally unrelated to matter at hand. The issue here is that President Mwanawasa NEVER SAID THE THINGS for which Obert has called Zambia and its army names. He is operating on a misplaced, non-existent premise. Obert seems so thirsty for an intellectual engagement, but unfortunately he starts off from an invalid platform. The Zambian leader did not say his army was going to invade Zim. The reporter on whose article we are basing this dialogue quoted the Zambian leader out of context and added his own wishes to tilt the story towards what would probably sell and or please his (or is it her) western masters, I suppose. At the end of the day, Obert has misled this entire forum. You trumpet a misquoted statement, and on its basis you provoke Zambians. Take time before you act, that is always a safe route to go man. Otherwise the issue remains that the situ in Zim is not good for the nationals, region, etc. And so the matter at hand is, how can it be resolved. Obert Madondo? Address yourself to this issue, and not whether or not armies can outwit each other. That won’t solve the problem in Zim. I speak as a Zambian in Lusaka. Peace.
Those that choose to bury their heads in the sand will continue being ruled by old, senile, tinpoint dictators masked as messiahs.
The fact is Bob has messed up and messed up big time. Let him go to Bindura or wherever he comes from. Surely 12 million Zimbabweans cannot fail to come up with some one to rule you. But any which way, Mugabe must go. Even if it means sending in the Zambia Army’s One Commando Unit. After all it taught Smith some military lessons.
Comrade Maimbo, well said, that is the way.
Obert could have a point on the army status, what we had then might not be what we have now but some of these things are better off not discussed.
The premise indeed upon which the debate on this forumn is based is bogus. It is merely a hoax meant to act as one of the pressure points by the western counterparts in order that they can divide us. For how else can one explain the deliberate misunderstanding, or is it interpretation of a plain, clear and peacefull statement as the one which Mwanawasa uttered? Southern Africa is mostly composed of the bantu, luba-lunda diaspora. In short, our differences only arose as a result of the western occupationists who introduced borders/ boundaries for their own selfish interests. People, we should learn to read between the lines. peace
The speculation that Zambia is considering military intervention on our Southern brothers is preposterously baseless. Even by the statement I quote below HE President Mwanawasa was not registering sides with any factions to warrant such speculations.
“As I speak right now, one SADC country has sunk into such economic difficulties that it may be likened to a sinking Titanic whose passengers are jumping out in a bid to save their lives.” He said. We should not deny the fact that every sincere leadership is aware that in Zimbabwe, frictional politics of Zanu-PF and MDC have lamentably failed and choked Zimbabweans.
Zambia like any other regional states has taken effects of the crisis in Zimbabwe. We are all feeling the interruption of investments, trade and tourism in the region and cannot continue to be part of the conspiracy theory of silence either. It is now very necessary that we talk frankly about our problems in the region as Africans and what is happening therein is humanely unacceptable. Zanu-PF and MDC can do better than the retrogressive politics ruining Zimbabweans.
Thus, there is no military aggression plan on the Zambian table or ever considered military action as the panacea to the Zimbabwean crisis. HE President Mwanawasa is a human rights champion and peace activist who treasures every human life. He is not a hawkish leader but a smart and tolerant peace maker.
President Mwanawasa’s magnanimous statement on Zimbabwe is typical of his pragmatic and visionary leadership that refuses to play the “Genovese Effect” -bystander effect (also known as bystander apathy) role when there is empirical evidence that a brotherly country such as Zimbabwe needs sincere independent views to push her towards a redemptive position. We have refused to take the bystander apathy a psychological phenomenon where persons are less likely to intervene in an emergency situation.
Our moral dualism dictates that under certain circumstances, morally guided people and leaders will always offer solitary statements as HE made in Namibia on Zimbabwe. Typically, such statements are amicable intervention efforts by neighbors who have vividly seen that the vulnerable citizen in a respective country have been made hopeless in their land at the hands of self centered politicians. Such are times of bystander intervention when rational leaders at their strategic inflection point in decision making speak out of conviction.
Zambia has no military agenda on Zimbabwe, but some moral duty to foster amicable solution to the deteriorating internal Zimbabwean crisis.
Bwembya
come on guy’s. Zambia has one of the strongest military in Africa. If you Zimbabweans(army not civilians) want a war
then bring it on.
Come guys our military has improved we even have parachute regiments now.iam in the zambia army commando unit i know what iam saying.
obert madondo, your head needs to be examined, if you are still looking at the demoted mugabe as a hero
Wow! That was one hellova debate. I think what was coming out clearly was the fact that there is a renewed call for African leaders to move away from patronage and take collective responsiility over the fate of their peoples. The time for non inteference should come to an end.It is this very attitude that hyad over the years propped up some of the most vicious dictators this continent has ever seen. To praphrase the late Mwanawasa’s words, when a neighbour’s house is on fire, you cant just stand and watch. African leaders must for once learn to call a spade a spade and not start coining new terminologies to justify their lack of action on major issues.
zambia is very powerfull, you do you think the russuians,ukrainians and chinese like us?this guys chose to become our alies because of our strength..
The most potent weapon in the hands of the oppressor is the mind of the oppressed.” – Steven Biko
Obert lives in Canada, and is educated in Canada, so you should have forbearance with him. He will believe almost anything the white media tells him like most black/african people do world wide…
Obert supports Africom. Barack Obama is planning to continue the Bush policy of Africom, which is also led by an African American who has no sense of race pride. I find it funny how the Europeans work so well together in owning much of the world, but Africans allow small things like nationality to insult and look down upon one another, when we are all fighting the same people, all the white man has to do is smile at most black people and they will do anything he tells them to. So sad. I hope Mugabes land reform sweeps throughout all of african, and all true Africans return from aboard and we can begin to build the entire continent.
Hey Zim guys! I am a Zambian who was living in Lusaka West when South Africans and Israelis were bombing Lusaka. The Zambian Army stood its ground and beat the tail of the racists!!! by then we did not have Mig-21s. Now we have the Arsenal and your women are our deem good recipe crossing over to Zambia to be fucked at a good deem price, therefore forget the deem war we cannot fight each other on the war front but in bed WE ARE ONE. Send more of your wives to Zambia not to fight a war but to be fucked. Your women are good rag tag for fucking.
the zambian army is really rag tag ,i agree with orbet.you zambians have never seen any action hw wld you be able to take our wives to bed wen you cannot fight even a single battle
Zimbabwe has neither fought a battle but Ian Smith has ,send proof of the war zimbabwe has fought ,slaughtering the ndeles in the matebeland in the 80s cannot be considered war.
Even brutallaising MDC members does not qualify it a battle.
Revisit your national history or else you will continue living in the past.
zimbabwean (lsk)
I refer to those two misguided idiots, obert madondo and mthulisi khumalo. Zambia Army through its two units, 1st Commando Unit and 2nd Zambia regiment would whoop your asses,Zimbabwean Military is no match to us, and wouldn’t waste our ammo on your military, we Zambians are very disciplined but annoy us we will show you what we are made of. We have a motto: fear not death but Defeat. Bring it on Zimbabwe, we are waiting!!
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