How the Left Lies to themselves as well as the rest of us.
Anyone who is politically aware in this country, anyone who has taken the time to keep up on the news, can’t help but to have run across one of the left’s favorite bromides; “Bush lied, People Died.” Not quite as well known, but as an adjunct to this doggerel, the left has also indulged in a bit of backward Clinton praising with the phrase “No one died when Clinton lied.” This, however, is a lie in and of itself, and it’s a perfect example of how the left lies to themselves and everyone around them.
One word best describes how the claim that Clinton’s lies never hurt anyone is a blatant untruth. That one word is KOSOVO. As Thomas E. Woods, Jr. reveals, Kosovo is the best-kept secret of the worst most murderous failure of the Clinton Administration.
In his new book “33 Questions About American History You’re Not Supposed to Ask,” Woods reveals some of the lies and destruction that was Clinton’s decision to enter the civil war between the Serbs, Croats, and Albanians in 1999.
Clinton’s decision to enter the conflict was based on the lie that he was valiantly trying to stop the “genocide” of the Muslim population in Kosovo. There is no doubt that there was a lot of killing going on in that corner of the world at the time and that it was all a bad situation. But, genocide? Hardly.
In fact, Clinton purposefully ignored the proof against any substantiation of genocide and he allowed his Administration to wildly inflate the numbers of Albanians killed by warring Serbs to justify his ginning up of his war machine. To make matters worse, the slavishly pro-Clinton media failed to bother to investigate the Clinton Administration’s claims and merely reported Clinton’s lies as fact.
You are sure to remember that Clinton claimed in 1999 that the USA was on a humanitarian mission to stop the evil Serbs from ruthlessly killing hundreds of thousands of “innocent” Muslims. That is the story we all heard as Clinton blustered about his war plans. The number of Albanians killed that was bandied about prior to the intervention of US and NATO forces was something near 400,000 Albanians murdered by Serbian forces. Yet, it was revealed in 2006 that there were never any more than 7,000 people reported missing during the whole of the conflict. As Woods reports, “The lurid claims of war supporters typically proved unfounded.” Since the action ended, we have seen proven false nearly every “fact” the Clinton Administration used to justify this war.
One such “lurid” claim was the supposed story of the Trepca mines being jammed to the rafters with Albanian bodies hidden there to prevent detection. The mines were claimed a veritable new age “Belsen, Auschwitz, and Treblinka,” as the Brit paper Daily Mirror reported. It turns out later that there wasn’t a single body discovered once western investigators were able to make it to the area. Another tale, that there were mass graves in the town of Ljubenic, later revealed 7 bodies instead of the supposed 350 that were supposed to be there.
Of the 400,000 Albanians Clinton claimed he went to Kosovo to avenge, even The Hague now only claims that only between 4,000 and 10,000 died during the troubles there. Yes, 10,000 is horrible, but it is far from any “genocide” and not much higher than many dozens of other conflicts world wide in the past 20 years. In the final analysis, the intervention of the US was unnecessary at the very least, disastrous at worst. The case the Clinton Administration made for war was filled with lies about why he went into Kosovo.
So where are the deaths we can attribute to Clinton’s lies, then?
As we know, once Clinton announced his fraudulent campaign, he did, indeed bomb the area. This specious bombing killed over 2,000 people … and not just among the so-called enemy Serbs. People of all sides died. Worse, a humanitarian mess resulted from the bombing as hospitals, schools, and the infrastructure was destroyed. Later, in contravention to Clinton’s stated purpose, the Serbs redoubled their efforts to oust the Albanians proving that the bombing didn’t stop any “genocide” at all.
In fact, any so-called genocide was a result of Clinton’s bombs as opposed to them having stopped such a crime against humanity. Far from helping the Albanians, Clinton’s bombs made matters far worse for all parties — including the US and the west.
Now, we all know that the Serbs eventually lost their battles due to Clinton’s intervention and since then, radical Islamofascists have turned the tables on the Serbs. Far from ushering in an era of peace in Kosovo, Muslims have since killed and displaced far more Serbs and Croats than the Serbs ever hoped to kill of the Albanian population before 1999.
Also since then, the Islamofascists have discovered a place where they can raise recruits and find safe haven. So, far from helping innocent Muslims escape genocide, all Clinton did was give succor to our enemies in the various Islamofascist movements. Money for radical Madrassas has poured into the area from Saudi Arabia, spreading anti-western sentiment in there. Remember the Fort Dix Six? They were young Albanian Muslims radicalized by Clinton’s failures.
In addition, the Muslims who have now taken power in the area have chased out hundreds of thousands of Gypsies, Christians, and other “undesirables” and have even gone so far as to obliterate centuries old Christian religious sites in the country.
Also, since the bombing stopped, the UN has taken control and that has been an even worse disaster on the infrastructure of the area than anything we have seen in Iraq. Many areas in Kosovo, Bosnia-Herzegovina still does not have reliable water, electric or roads and the economy is still completely destroyed there. More abhorrently, the UN has been caught keeping local teenaged girls as sex slaves in brothels for their UN “peacekeeping” employees.
The Clinton lies resulted in many thousands of deaths, a country laid waste, and our enemies the Islamofascists have been given an area from which to recruit and have safe harbor. And hundreds of young girls have been reduced to sexual slavery just to survive day to day. Far from stopping genocide, it looks far more like Clinton has CAUSED one.
So, now tell me that when “Clinton lied, no one died.”
At least Bush’s actions have been for a real humanitarian effort. Clinton’s murderous acts were for… what? Pure self-aggrandizement and little else.















14 users commented in " Clinton Lied and people DID Die "
Follow-up comment rss or Leave a TrackbackWell i guess 20 000 dead civilians and 10 000 dissapeard civiliand its not a big deal for you? I guess You are Serb or you Married a Serb Woman(Man) it doesnt matter i mean ur just an ignorant speaking from a god behind the back village saying evil things like this i wonder what opinion you have about the ww2 holocaust ?
Dear Sir,
I’m afraid you got it all wrong, not because of the facts but because you chose to do so.
I was in Kosova all the time before and during the war and it really hurts me when I hear such lies.
Well let me tell you that hundreeds and thousands of people were being displaced, kidnapped, killed and massacred even before the NATO intervention and that was the reason why US and NATO intervened in the first place and for which the Abanians (not only Kosovar Albanians) are grateful forever. It is ridiculous how you speak about the number of people killed, obviously according to your twisted mind, not enought to cause an intervention…..espetially as the victims were mostly of “muslim religion”?
Let me remind you that near Gjakova there is a small village called Meje, were over 300 people were killed in one day almost of them of christian religion.
I noticed on your text that almost all the time you refer to both parties as christians or muslims. You would have to be blind and in such a denial not to see that people were killed because they were Albanians and not because of their religion.
What happened in 2004 is terrible and has no excuse or justification, but no matter how much you would like to put it that way it had nothing to do with the religion. Churches were burned or destroyed because they were Serb and not because they were Christian, othewise how do you explain the fact that not a single Albanian Catholic Churche was damaged during that time as in all towns thare are Caltholic Churches too.
Once again I’m not trying to justify what happened, in the contrary I think that was wrong.
Therefore my dear Sir, you’re way off the base and please, please do not humiliate yourself with such lies.
An advice for you, visit Kosova (although I’m almos sure it wont make any difference as it seems you’re beyound help).
Kind regards
Kosovar
20,000 dead???! Where are you getting your numbers from, the number of dead from both Serbian and Albanian side is less then 10,000 according to UN reports. This article is completely correct according to UN statistics.
If we want to talk about what happened in 1999 we should also mention what has been happening in that area throughout history. Over the last 50 yrs Serbs have been systematically cleansed from Kosovo. If you look at Yugoslav statistics and if you talk to anyone form former Yugoslavia, excpet Albanians from Kosovo they will tell you that Albanians had a system of genetically dmoniating Serbs in Kosovo by having 10 children per family something which was supported by Tito because it diluted the Serbian population in Yugoslavia(go to wikipedia and look at persons per/sq. kilometer in Kosovo and compare to Albania and Serbia proper, you will see that the numbers are unnaturally high for Kosovo for the region). Also, Albanins constantly terrorizing Serbs and their homeland by killing, raping and more using terrorist tacts by KLA, just as they planned in Ft. Dix. Ft. Dix is nothing new to the Serbs, thats the way they have been living with Albaninas for over 50 yrs.
I dont understand how Albaninas in Kosovo trully believe that Kosovo a region which is the most corrupt in Europe because of Albanian mafia could invite someone to come visit it. Serbs in Kosovo have to be protected by enclaves, like slaves, with no rights. Let me mention that the Serbs in Kosovo are mostly elderly, yet Albaninas have to attack these poor people. I would understand that if the KLA was responsable then we can blame them for what happend in 2004 but you cant. If you watch videos of these attacks on the Serbs in March 2004 you will see that all Albanians were involved in burning churches, killing and cleansing Serbs. How do Kosovo Albanians belive that they deserve their own country when all they have done for 50 yrs was terrorise and try to dominate the Serbs? It is Albanians that have time and time again commited crimes against the Serbs, we can even go back to Ottoman occupaiton to WWI, and WWII. However today the whole world judges the situation on what happend ing 1999 by Milosevic, something which was horrible but Albanians are to blame also. We should take a look at hisotry as a whole and you will see that Serbs have been defending themselves and nothing more.
hey Warner,
is this an anti Clinton campaign effort or Serbian propaganda? or both?
I suggest you visit Kosovo.
Hey Jon,
Every group that does NOT have equal rights as the other group living in the same place will fight in any way to gain them. That should explain why was there an atack or a KLA.
Don’t forget an important part of history since you lke to go back 50 years. I sugest you go back centuries and look into BC times in Balkans. If you find something called “Illirians” (Ylirians) those are today’s albaians.
P.S. If you look at history,look at history good and go way back, dont stop where you want to stop. If you talk about present than stick to present, but ether way, you cant make your case.
Sean,
There is an eight century gap between the last mention of Illirians in the 5th century AD and the first mention of Albanians on the Balkans in the 11th century AD. It is quite a leap to say that Albanians are Illirians, but to be honest I don’t know how any of that is relevant to the discussion here.
The fact that the KLA started the war is indisputable. The public statements that the KLA issued before the war started are perfectly clear. In 1997 they openly threatened to unleash a war in Kosovo “worse than Bosnia” unless Serbia met their demands.
The KLA attacked Serbia and started the war. One can debate whether the Serb response was too harsh, but it certanly wasn’t any worse than we’ve seen in a lot of other countries when there have been insurrections.
What Clinton did was take a relatively small conflict between Serb security forces and KLA terrorists and turn it into a full-blown international catastrophe. Prior to the 1998 Milosevic-Holbrooke agreement there were only a handful of deaths in Kosovo and Serbia had practically destroyed the KLA.
The Milosevic-Holbrooke agreement forced Serbia to withdraw police from Kosovo under threat of NATO bombing and allowed the KLA to reconstitute itself. The KLA regrouped, renewed its attacks, Serbia retaliated, so NATO started bombing Serbia.
Every war crime that Serbia is accused of by the Hague Tribunal is alleged to have taken place *AFTER* the Milosevic-Holbrooke agreement, and 99% of the war crimes are alleged to have taken place *AFTER* NATO started bombing. The only exception is Racak, and there is a lot of doubt surrounding that incident.
If Clinton had just minded his own damn business and stayed out of Kosovo everything would have been settled in 1998. There would have been far less loss of life because the KLA would have been defeated and there would have been no need for a full-blown war.
Thanks Mike, Well said. We have to look at modern world history when we are in the proccess of resolving affairs not at ancient history, which is completely out of context here. Illirians for those who are interested were for the most part settled in what it today Dalmatia, Croatia.
I think that everyone should visit Kosovo and see how the Serbs live. You will get a good idea how it will be for the Serbs if Kosovo gets independence. But, without NATO it will be far worse.
I’m just disgusted with all of you have you no decency, people lost their lives here no matter if it was 1, 10, 1000, 0r 10,000. What’s the difference? I feel for all the innocent Serbs and Albanians who lost their families and their lives, no American can ever speak or comment on this issue because none of us have or will ever experience the hardships that suffered. If any one is to blame, it Slobodan Milosevic, he stared the Yugoslav wars and is responsible for all those who lost there lives. As far as I’m concerned we should thank Clinton for his interventions, he should of cam way earlier before any Croats or Bosnians lost their lives, which is very unfortunate.
To John:
So John, 10.000 killed and massacred and over 20000 woman raped is not a big deal right? I don’t think this needs a comment.
You seem to be very well informed about 50 years of Serb suffering under Albanians. I wonder where you got that. How that could happen in a country ruled by Serbs? Have you ever heard about the Rankovic era during the 50’s (that’s when the Serbs suffered according to you), a treaty was signed with Turkey, on the basis of which 300 000 Albanians were driven out of Kosova and forcefully sent to Turkey. At the same time Serbs were brought in to colonize Kosova. How can one colonize its own country? (read memorandum of the Serb Academy of Arts and Sciences).
Have you ever read about The Treaty of Berlin in 1878 (and the consequences of that for the Albanians)? http://www.alb-net.com/juka1.htm
As for the Albanians having a high birth rate, if you check more closely you will find out that also the Serb population living in Kosova had a higher birth rate than the Serb population in Serbia. Why? Throughout the world the poorer the people are the higher the birth rate.
KLA. Do you really think that Albanians woke up one day and decided to form their army and fight just for the fun of it? Why don’t you talk about the cause? Why KLA was not formed in 1989? We tried to negotiate until the moment when it was not possible anymore. You would have done the same.
To Mike, KLA did not attack Serbia. KLA attacked Serbian forces in Kosova which is very different. KLA was not an occupying army instead it fought the occupation.
There was no NATO bombing in Croatia or Bosnia (until late) but Serbs did massacres there too. No Mike it has nothing to do with NATO, this is just the Serbian way of doing things. Let me tell you that less than 10% of the murdered people were members of the KLA, the rest were civilians. What does this tell you? The Serbs were “fighting” civilian population.
And yes, THANK YOU PRESIDENT CLINTON, THANK YOU USA AND NATO.
Mike, no matter what I still can not wish you were an Albanian living in Kosova during this time.
Hey Gib,
Have you seen how Albanians in the north of Kosova live? I don’t think they are as free to move around and speak loudly as Serbs are in Pristina. I won’t say that everything is great for them but don’t forget that the wounds are still open. In time everything will settle down.
Be Good,
Kosovar
Kosovar,
I know alot of people from former Yugoslavia, Serbs, Croats, Slovenes, Bosnian Muslims and they all state the same; that Albanians in Kosovo had un-naturally high birth rates. One of the reasons was that Tito provded them with welfare to keep the Serbian population at bay. Now please go to wikipedia and you will see that the statistics speak for them selves regarding the unusually hight population in Kosovo compared to rest of the region.
As them not being to walk around freely that is completely not true…In fact there was an Albanian band at EXIT festival in Novi Sad, Serbia. If everything you say is true that how is it possible that Albanians are all over Serbia, Montenegro? How many Serbs have been invited by Albanians to sing in Kosovo or Albania???? ALso Albanians students were in Belgrade perticipating in various events. If you need proof I will gladlly send it? Serbs have welcomed others at all times unless they commit terrorist acts against them? Unlike Albanians which celebrate the arrival of the biggest war criminal in the world (George Bush)!
Bill,
Of the 100,000 people killed 35,000 were Serbs the rest were Croats and Muslims, however dont forget that Croats and Musilms also fought against eachother. Milosevic was not the only one guilty for the balkan wars, in fact the first soldier was killed in Split, Croatia. Tujman and Izetbegovic were just as guilty as Milosevic, they all had refugee camps set up. Lets not forget the soldiers from Holland which released the Srebrenica civilians to criminals like Mladic. Dont think that those NATO soldiers didnt know what kind of war it was. Ofcourse they did, and this Srebrenica massacre in the biggest peice of evidence against Milosevic to run this one sided story against the serbs. Please stick to the facts and not to propaganda!
The truth is slowly but surely coming out. For all of those who blame Milosevic for everything under the sun and global warming you should read about him and his speeches. The idea that he started the wars in the balkans is a complete lie. The wars were started by German, American, and English help of local fashist and islamofashist separatists. As small evidence of proof please read Milosevice’s speech at Kosovo Polje which the west uses as proof of his bloodthirsty intent akin to Hitler’s Mein Kampf. Please read it and judge for your self. Here is a translation http://emperors-clothes.com/milo/milosaid.html By way of contrast here is a speech of Croatian separatist fashist leader Tudjman at the end of the war in Croatia after ethnically cleansing 250 000 Serbs (and that number is NOT exaggerated) as some of the numbers Croatians and Albanians reference here. http://emperors-clothes.com/docs/tudj.htm . Also read about the kangaroo court in The Hague and Milosevice’s trial here “Travesty: The Trial of Slobodan Milosevic and the Corruption of International Justice” by by Ramsey Clark and John Laughland. You can find it on Amazon.com. Only facts. The truth shall set you free. Also for the interested Americans please research the involvement of of mujahadeen some with ties to Al-Qaeda and other with no ties, the involvement of the Iranian government, in the war on Bosnia and Kosovo. Search in google the trip Osama Bin Laden made to both Bosnia and Kosovo during the respective wars.
To Bill,
You say: “people lost their lives here no matter if it was 1, 10, 1000, 0r 10,000. What’s the difference?”
The difference is huge. It is being alleged that the Serbian government killed Albanians as a matter of state policy — genocide is being alleged. A high death toll would substantiate that accusation and a low one would refute it.
To Kosovar,
You say “KLA did not attack Serbia. KLA attacked Serbian forces in Kosova which is very different. KLA was not an occupying army instead it fought the occupation.”
You don’t seem to understand the meaning of the word “occupation”. Serbia can’t occupy Kosovo because Kosovo is part of Serbia. Kosovo was part of Serbia in 1389 when the Ottoman Empire occupied it and Kosovo was Serbia again in 1913 when the Ottoman Empire signed the treaty giving it back to Serbia.
You admit that the KLA attacked Serbian security forces in Kosovo, but your problem seems to be that the Serbs shot back. I don’t blame them for shooting back. Any security force in any country would have shot back. Look what your beloved President Clinton did in Waco, Texas and Ruby Ridge, Idaho when a bunch of dumb hillbillies opened fire at American FBI and ATF agents. Look at all of the innocent women and children who died there.
The fact that the KLA started the war is beyond dispute. On August 8, 1997 the Koha Ditore newspaper printed a KLA communique that climed responsibility for a series of armed attacks on Serbian security forces, and the murder of two Albanian civilians named Ali Qullapeku and Ramiz Leku. In the same communique, the KLA threatened to unleash “a greater slaughter than in Bosnia-Hercegovina.”
War sucks. Innocent people ALWAYS get caught in the cross-fire. It has happened in EVERY war that has ever been fought in human history. By starting the war the KLA brought all of the death and destruction that followed.
Look what is happening to the civilian population in Iraq, or what happened to the civilians in Vietnam. Do you accuse the United States of genocide in those wars? Was your beloved President Clinton guilty of genocide in Iraq when his Secretary of State went on national TV and said that ousting Saddam Hussein was worth the death of 500,000 Iraqi children?
Compared to the things that Clinton and Bush have done, Slobodan Milosevic and Radovan Karadzic are a pair of saints.
Mike,
You put it very well…Just because of mass medias propaganda against Serbs doesn’t make them more guilty then Croats, Bosnians, Albanians…people need to look at the facts throughout history to understand the situation. I have studied the Balkans and what Serbs have gone through in the Balkans is a tragedy. They have truly suffered the most in Europe throughout history, mostly during Ottoman occupation, WWI and WWII.
Oh, let me add one more thing…Serbs are the only people in Europe that have constantly fought against the occupiers, once again the were the most active resistance against the Ottomans, Austro-Hungarians(WWI) and German (WWII).
Note: Albanians in Kosovo have had their own education system, hospitals, and media for decades…something that not even Austrians would not give to the minority Slovenian population in southern Austria.
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