Check out Wayne’s blog on primates as pets, at http://hsus.typepad.com/wayne/2007/08/monkey-business.html

First, Carol Lewis Baskin of Big Cat Rescue, it’s no surprise which side of this you would espouse from, as YOU are the subject of fundraising fraud. I guess you, Wayne and Bernard might enjoy some cheese with your whine, as you comiserate.
After a link to the Bay News 9 expose’ disclosing fraud and deceit at Carole Lewis Baskin’s Big Cat Rescue was posted here http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0707/4968_Page2.html Carole hurried to change certain information on her website. On what we like to call her CMA Page (cover my ass) she once again deleted some text while adding more. View the expose’ here. http://phoenixexotics.org/BigCatonBayNews9.wmv

Second, in the wake of the LA Attorney General’s Katrina H$U$ Fraud investigation, H$U$ hastily ammended their “Official Statement of Policy” to read:
“Disasters”
“A wide range of natural and techological disasters, as well as war and terrorism, place animals in jeopardy around the world. The HSUS will strive to rescue and care for animals trapped in these circumstances whenever local and regional capacities have been overwhelmed. The nature and extent of HSUS effortswill vary, depeding upon issues of timing, access, available resources, and security of human responders. The HSUS will attend to companion animals trapped in these settingsas well as to farm animals and wildlife whenever possible. In the case of companion animals, captive wildlife and farm animals, The HSUS will endeavor to reunite them with responsible caretakers.
We believe that attention to the protection of animals at riskin disasters and other crisis is a responsibility of government, since animals play such a central role in the emotional and economic well-being of people throughout the world. Intervention to rescue and care for animals trapped in disasters or other crisis requires coordinated advance planning and preparation among non profit and government agencies at all levels and must include organized efforts to urge and support people to include animals in their personal disaster contingency plans. When Animal rescue does not impede human rescue and relief imperatives, government responders should directly assist animals in need, cooperating with animal welfare organizations in the process.”
(Approved by the Board of Directors on January 6, 2006)
For all of you that don’t fluently speak “rhetoric”, this means that HSUS is not responsible or accountable for disaster rescue, it’s the government problem - but they will tell the government what to do, and the owners are at fault for not planning ahead. Oh, and if H$U$ doesn’t believe you are a “responsible caretaker”, then you will NEVER see your animal again! Any Questions?
Moving on to that “Charity Navigator” statement, My PERSONAL inquiry to Charity Navigator regarding their “4 star rating” was responded to as follows:
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Our ratings solely evaluate the fiscal health of charities. We decline to make any subjective assessments about a charity and we are unable to alter a charity’s rating based on allegations. We hope over time to expand the information and services we provide givers. However, we’re still seeking a methodology with which we’re comfortable.

In the meantime, we continue to recommend that givers refrain from using our ratings as the only factor in deciding whether to support a particular organization. Givers should also seek out additional information from charities directly and through other private and public sources. Intelligent giving depends upon reliable information. Charity Navigator provides an important piece of this information, and we encourage givers to learn as much as they can about a charity before deciding to support it.

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MADD advocated for a consistent law enforcement response to the issue of drunk driving. MADD never would have suggested sending out a bunch of mothers to chase down drivers suspected of DUI. Why would HSUS, or any humane organization, think such a response for dog fighting and animal abuse would be any less absurd?

By HSUS’s own admission dogfighting is on the rise. But instead of admitting that their approach to the issue isn’t working they ask for more money.

I used to be a Chicago Police Officer assigned to investigate dogfighting and animal abuse full time, and I believe HSUS is actually hurting these issues rather than helping. They mislead the public into thinking that something is being done, thereby taking the onus off the police. And just like any crime of violence, in the absense of a law enforcement response these crimes will only escalate.

P.S. My grandmother and aunt donated quite a bit of money to your organization in the past. They would also like to know where the money went.

Amy

Amy

Pacelle did indeed lie about mad cow disease entering our food supply and he had zero evidence. He also lied about pigs being able to contract it when its never naturally occurred in pigs.

“see our longstanding policy against violence and threatening tactics”

Cheap words Bernard. When push comes to shove the HSUS does next to nothing to denounce it because they support it (as they showed by hiring Goodwin).

Your entire article was full of the usual HSUS propaganda. As for the CCF its amusing you criticize it for the HSUS is even more deceptive with how it spends its money. Its also more deceitful with the public. But the CCF is not the organization that made false claims about caring for Vicks dogs to get money - the HSUS is.

“The HSUS stands for, above all its core ethic of promoting compassion and respect for life.”

Now thats an outright lie Bernard. The HSUS has no respect for human life. Pacelle recently said Vicks dogs should be killed. Your organization also has no respect for pets as its behind every ban, restrictive ownership and extinction (mandatory s/n) bill.

“I’m proud of the article, as I am of the organization”

You’re proud of an organization that puts animal ahead of humans, seeks to eliminate pets, ban all hunting, meat eating, etc, etc. This also means no more therapy dogs, guide dogs for the blind, search and rescue dogs, explosives detection dogs and many other services. Its appalling anyone would be proud of that.

Goodwin’s highly public renunciation of violence is his newest (and current) “religion.” His path to meaningful employment. Can’t get those big bucks and have your face in the media at the same time with a torch in your hand now, can we? Can anyone say abstract arsonist? Possibly one or two burning buildings might be tolerated by his mama & papa as “youthful enthusiasm” but a career in willful destruction and strife? Was it fervor for his “religion” at the time? The intentional and negligent burning of buildings for his criminal purposes is somehow vexing me. He doesn’t get to wipe his hands clean, throw them in the air, and shout “I renounce all things ALF!” Perhaps I can find an “expert” for him. Someone highly skilled in both traditional as well as cognitive-behavioural therapy who can effectively work with his antisocial behaviours.

I have two grown sons. They were the epitome of “enthusiasm” but never once did they firebomb buildings, destroy property, and glee in the possibility of people dying as a consequence of their actions while jumping up and down saying “We’re ecstatic!” (another Goodwin quote). No such “errant tactics” were ever employed by my sons. Possibly Goodwin lacked parental supervision.

You can try to sell again JP’s “religious turnaround” until cows come home. Won’t buy it today. Won’t buy it tomorrow. The only reason he (Goodwin) is “adopting legal approaches” now is his current religious interest … the almighty dollar! There is more in it for him by converting to the one true path of HSUS. Keeps him out of prison. Keeps those paychecks rolling in. He just learned that arson wasn’t paying his mortgage, car payment, and new wardrobe. Loved the ALF t-shirt though. Didn’t see them on sale at Bloomingdale’s or Bombs ‘R Us.

Might I suggest the next time Goodwin feels an “enthusiastic youthful urge,” he throws a roll of toilet paper up in an environmentally friendly HSUS tree!

You will be pleased to know, Bernard, that I have expressed interest in you as well. One interesting fact is that you received your doctorate at American University in 2002. Isn’t this the same university where a “PeTA operative” stood in the front of a classroom instructing students on “How To Make An Incendiary Device”? (I have the video!) There is the suggestive influence that this is the “highway to heaven” … just blow up a medical research facility and “You’re in, like Flynn.” Possibly the “instructor” was Roy Coronado, a PeTA foil. Can’t remember. They are all the same. Just another person overflowing with “youthful enthusiasm” a la Goodwin, eh?

Your role as “Pacelle’s public defender” is quite curious indeed. I understand that your responsibilities at HSUS include the formation of “national policy”. Are we now to assume that you will continue speaking for Pacelle in your “official” historian capacity? Webster’s Dictionary defines a “mouthpiece” as a person or periodical “used” by another or others to express their views and ideas. Are you satisfied being “used” by Wayne Pacelle? Do you really want to prostitute yourself in this manner?

It has been explained to me that the animal rights movement is really a religion. Bernard, it looks like you are seated at the right hand of Pacelle. Tell me, does he have daily seances (oh, excuse me, I meant to say “staff meetings”) instructing the faithful?

Pacelle’s latest blog ju dour reveals a moving account of an early experience where he describes his deep funk and overt depression on a visit to the Central Park Zoo. I learned today that Pacelle is now an animal psychic and communicator. Well, slap me silly and add that to “his” resume. He reads animal behavior according to today’s blog. Referring to the big cat, Pacelle writes “I read his behavior as utter anguish.” Please, give me a few minutes and I will locate an “expert” to assist him, too, with his current feelings of anguish at the hands of CCF, NAIA, CWA, The Iams Company, Gary Truitt, and the cats at the Central Park Zoo.

I’m an east coast girl, Bernie. I visited the Central Park Zoo many times on school field trips. Would you like to know what “I” shared with my classmates and chaperones? I got “bus sick.” And, while I no longer ride buses, I still visit the zoo. Even though I was green to the gills, I did not shroud my teachers and companions in gloom and doom and selfishly ruin the day for teachers and classmates as Pacelle admits to us in his blog. “I ruined the trip for the teachers and all of my classmates. I went into a mode of overt depression, and I infected everyone on the trip with my gloom.”

Pacelle’s latest is replete with a stock photo of a big cat for visual emphasis. Does his strategic communication team suggest Pacelle include “show & tell” with all of his presentations, publications, and blogs?

His reference to Rabbi Gellman’s essay, “A Calling To Care,” finds Pacelle returning to a seminal experience. So, are we then to assume that this trip to the zoo was the primary influence in his life? The brush that paints his canvas? A turning point much like the renunciation in Goodwin’s life?

I notice that Pacelle did not miss the opportunity to “use” Rabbi Gellman’s essay to introduce the world to the newest HSUS program: Animals and Religion. Per Pacelle “Our first major initiative is Food, Farming and Faith, which promotes an understanding of sacred food in various religious traditions and encourages their support of agricultural practices that are sustainable and reduce animal suffering.”

Looks like another fundraising opportunity to me! When should I expect your next solicitation in my mailbox?

I am keeping count of the HSUS “cast of assigned actors.” So far we have a domestic fire-bombing terrorist (Goodwin), a psychologically traumatized youth (Pacelle) falsely elevated by the media to the status of “humane community diety,” and a HSUS senior staff person/Victorian historian/policy adviser that has a new career assignment as defender of the faith/Pacelle (Unti).

In your most recent blog reply, you continue with your attempts to draw attention away from the central “core” issue, i.e., HSUS’ solicitations propagandized on JQP with Pacelle’s deceptions and (mis)information. You mention red herrings? Both you and Pacelle attempt to divert attention from the basic issue at every turn. Do you even know where this expression “red herring” originated? It is from the practice of drawing a herring across the trace in hunting to distract the hounds. Perhaps that explains my due diligence in studying HSUS with such hound-like intensity and fascination. Must be that prey drive instinct rubbing off on me from the hounds (both sight and scent) in my life.

Is it getting hotter in the HSUS kitchen because I prefer my herring “smoked”!

So, we might now have a ‘kinder, gentler’ HSUS, but they are working to do their ‘change’ below the surface where most people observe it. A lot of laws are passed, and people don’t even know about them until that law is used against them. Few people these days take the time to participate in their government, despite the fasntastic array of tools available to them for participation. We are slowly fixing that problem. We see what HSUS, API, PETA, IFAW and other groups are doing. So, your ‘kinder gentler’ approach is little more than a new paint job to a mortuary.

As for dogfighting, ANSWER THE ORIGINAL QUESTIONS ZUZANA ASKED YOU!!!!!! The very fact that you won’t shows you have no desire to be accountable whatsoever. If you have no accountability, I question whether you have any credibility, either.

http://www.hsus.org/about_us/about_hsus_programs_and_services/eye_on_the_opposition/center_for_consumer_freedom.html

I’m proud of the article, as I am of the organization.

“Rose, I forgot to mention that we have a pets in the office policy that encourages staff members to bring their animals to work if they wish to do so. Would you say that too is a part of an elaborate deception?”

Simple deception, not elaborate. Rather like showing Newkirk or Pacelle with a dog or cat when they don’t particularly care for either. Its all for the image.

“Who do you know that spends more than The HSUS in directly helping animals? ”

The HSUS is more successful at deceiving the public than other organizations but other organizations spend a larger percentage on what they take in on direct help.

“And would you agree that some efforts, like working to secure anti-dogfighting legislation, or to reduce the number of homeless animals, do bring benefits to local shelters?”

BS Bernard. The HSUS is now using the Vick case merely as a money making machine. You don’t care about the dogs. Pacelle himself said they should be killed. Your “efforts” to reduce the number of animals going into shelters is like killing AIDS patients so no one else gets the disease.

“There’s a lot of stuff we do that directly advances their work. If this wasn’t the case, they wouldn’t populate our annual training conference with 1500 attendees.”

Which you charge for being a “charitable” organization. You get a lot of mileage out of the name. Many go because they believe you are a legitimate animal welfare organization which of course you are not.

“Where, by the way, is the evidence that we are against petkeeping? ”

Don’t be coy Bernard. You can try and dismiss many quotes or claim they were taken out of context but they are an accurate reflection of your organization and the animal rights movement in general.

How about the pet extinction bills you’re pushing for all over the country even though mandatory spay/neuter has been shown not to work? Why does the HSUS NEVER help anyone have more fun with an animal? Why do you treat responsible owners as criminals? Why do you repeatedly lie about various studies to promote your anti-pet agenda and making it harder for people to have pets? If you really were the animal lovers you claimed you’d be fighting BSL, promoting pet ownership and many other things. But you’re working against it. Thats in addition to doing everything you can to force people into an unnatural vegan diet.

“Did you hear the good news that the American Veal Association will phase out the use of the crate by 2017? None of this is a result of antimeat legislation.”

More disinformation Bernard. The HSUS is chipping away where it can in an effort to stop everyone from eating meat. Pacelle has even lied about mad cow disease in that quest.

“Say, what is this list for anyway, people who want to keep exotic animals as pets? Maybe that is the reason there’s so much defensiveness and unwillingness to acknowledge the good work that The HSUS and other organizations do. ”

For every bit of good work you may do you undo it with your work against pet owners and your deceitfulness to the public. For the HSUS the bad outweighs the good.

Who might those be Bernard? Name these “societies”. Every one of the organizations you slyly named in the same sentence are opposed to illegal animal fighting, and you know it.

Even dogfighting is better than extinction of the species. I am so very glad that dogfighting at least is unnecessary to the continuation of a species. What I will not do to fight against dogfighting, something that you and even some of the “real” humane societies will do, is accuse people without evidence, use the fact of dogfighting against private ownership, or violate human rights in order to fight it. Your “expert” on dogfighting, J.P. Goodwin, is also an expert on violating civil rights by setting fire to people’s property.

The connections between PETA and the HSUS are strong enough to easily fall under RICO. It’s an open and shut case, really. PETA has given material support to domestic terrorists belonging to the ALF and the HSUS is an arm of PETA now. ALF openly practices terrorism against individuals and corporations. For the sum of $250,000 I will tell you what ALF has done that has put itself, PETA, the HSUS, API, and several other so-called animal protection organizations in a terrible bind, but I would also tell everyone at the same time. You really need this information but there is only one thing that you can do with it that would give you a hope in Hades of preventing it from destroying you. You’re not going to like it.

On no, it’s a more than one quote:

When asked if he envisioned a future without pets, “If I had my personal view, perhaps that might take hold. In fact, I don’t want to see another dog or cat born.” Wayne Pacelle quoted in Bloodties: Nature, Culture and the Hunt by Ted Kerasote, 1993, p. 266.

I don’t have a hands-on fondness for animals…To this day I don’t feel bonded to any non-human animal. I like them and I pet them and I’m kind to them, but there’s no special bond between me and other animals.” Wayne Pacelle quoted in Bloodties: Nature, Culture and the Hunt by Ted Kerasote, 1993, p. 251.

One generation and out. We have no problem with the extinction of domestic animals. They are creations of human selective breeding.” Wayne Pacelle, Senior VP of Humane Society of the US, formerly of Friends of Animals and Fund for Animals, Animal People, May, 1993

“Humane care (of animals) is simply sentimental, sympathetic patronage.” Dr. Michael W. Fox, Humane Society of the US, in 1988 Newsweek interview

Other revealing quotes from HSUS officials:

“It’s time for the animal rights movement to take this [fur] industry and drive the final nail into the coffin by whatever means it takes. If that means being outside the executives houses, if that means blockading their doors, whatever it takes.” John ‘J.P.’ Goodwin, Humane Society of the US Campaign Director, former executive director of the Coalition to Abolish the Fur Trade, in speech at the World Congress for Animals, June 20, 1996

“We have found that civil disobedience and direct action has been powerful in generating massive attention in our communities … and has been very effective in traumatizing our targets.” JP Goodwin, Committee to Abolish the Fur Trade, National Animal Rights Convention ‘97, June 27, 1997, now employed by the Humane Society of the United States

“My goal is the abolition of all animal agriculture.” JP Goodwin, employed at the Humane Society of the US, formerly at Coalition to Abolish the Fur Trade, as quoted on AR-Views, an animal rights Internet discussion group in 1996

“The life of an ant and that of my child should be granted equal consideration.” Michael W. Fox, Scientific Director and former Vice President, The Humane Society of the United States, The Inhumane Society, New York, 1990

[Expressing opposition to use of bug sprays] “Only a few of the million you kill would have bitten you.” Dr. Michael Fox, Scientific Director and former Vice President of Humane Society of the US (HSUS), Returning to Eden, Fox publication

Who do you know that spends more than The HSUS in directly helping animals? And would you agree that some efforts, like working to secure anti-dogfighting legislation, or to reduce the number of homeless animals, do bring benefits to local shelters? There’s a false dichotomy inherent to your argument about the relationship between us and the locals. There’s a lot of stuff we do that directly advances their work. If this wasn’t the case, they wouldn’t populate our annual training conference with 1500 attendees.

Where, by the way, is the evidence that we are against petkeeping? In one contested quotation from fifteen years ago? What anti-pet legislation passed that we were a party to? The PETS Act to guarantee a place for companion animals in disaster planning? I don’t think it could have been that one. What about the bills to put bittering agents in antifreeze so animals won’t be poisoned accidentally?

Did you hear the good news that the American Veal Association will phase out the use of the crate by 2017? None of this is a result of antimeat legislation. A number of bills asking that animals be raised humanely have been introduced and debated, and that has helped the veal and pork industry to identify some positive pathways for their evolution. But there’s still going to be meat for all who wish to buy it.

Say, what is this list for anyway, people who want to keep exotic animals as pets? Maybe that is the reason there’s so much defensiveness and unwillingness to acknowledge the good work that The HSUS and other organizations do.

Your “peer group” is the terrorist affiliated PETA and other animal rightist organizations that have no respect for human life. Not something you should be bragging about. The rating by charity navigator says more about your expertise in deception than actual charity work.

“The HSUS’s program expenses as a percentage of total expenses is 81% for 2006, up from 79% in 2005.”

More spin Bernard. The HSUS spends precious little actually helping animals. It spends far more on salaries, fundraising and anti-pet lobbying.

“Do you really believe there is an unlimited accountability that we might have to someone who gives five dollars a year, or to someone (like yourself perhaps) who gives no money to The HSUS at all?”

What utter contempt you display for those who donate to your organization.

“Why do you treat J.P. Goodwin’s change of heart and his effort to make his life a meaningful one of engagement with an admitted social scourge (animal fighting) as a topic of satire? Do you doubt that it’s sincere, and what is your evidence? ”

Of course its not sincere. A leopard does not change its spots. Goodwin is only doing whats expedient for him as you are with your spin.

“By the way, the idea that The HSUS is anti-pet is absurd on its face.”

The HSUS, under Pacelle’s leadership has had a hand in passing more anti-pet legislation than ever before. Despite the fact that mandatory spay/neuter has been shown not to work, the HSUS keeps pushing for it. Pet extinction is their goal. The only reason you won’t admit it is because you know the funds will dry up.

The HSUS has also done virtually nothing to fight BSL. They are in fact, FOR BSL as mandatory spay/neuter will go far in destroying great breeds.

The HSUS does very little in the way of direct help Bernard and you know it. You charge animal shelters and others for your “help” and charge exorbitant prices for publications.

The HSUS expertise lies in conning good people out of their money and using it against them to lobby for anti-pet and anti-meat legislation.

The HSUS achieves this by repeating many lies over and over so people will begin to believe them including lying about various studies to push their legislation. They continue to punish responsible owners by pushing mandatory spay/neuter laws when responsible owners are not the problem. The ones left footing the bill are the ones who do nothing wrong. But every pet owner is a criminal in the eyes of the HSUS.

The article you cite on the satyamag rag is called spin and damage control. Goodwin is no expert in anything except deceiving the public just as you and Pacelle do on a regular basis. The federal government has worked with scores of unqualified people in the past. Goodwin is no exception and its a disgrace that the government has worked with a criminal.

Goodwin’s “turnaround” is a sham as he’s tried to blackmail many with hunting dogs. Rather than ruin people’s lives with arson he now does it with lies.

“You all want an unlimited accountability and answers from us, and once we shoot down or address one of your concerns”

You want to be held accountable for nothing so you can continue to con the public. You’re not answering a lot of questions but avoiding them. In short, spinning to divert from the facts.

We generally would not refer to a volunteer as an HSUS official. I think that consistent with the designations commonly used by other organizations and agencies that a staff member could be termed an “official.”

Do you really believe there is an unlimited accountability that we might have to someone who gives five dollars a year, or to someone (like yourself perhaps) who gives no money to The HSUS at all?

Why do you treat J.P. Goodwin’s change of heart and his effort to make his life a meaningful one of engagement with an admitted social scourge (animal fighting) as a topic of satire? Do you doubt that it’s sincere, and what is your evidence? Wouldn’t it be great if every person headed down the wrong social pathway was amenable and committed to “course correction”?

By the way, the idea that The HSUS is anti-pet is absurd on its face. The HSUS, under Wayne Pacelle’s leadership, has expanded its programs devoted to companion animals, providing hands on direct care through its Rural Animal Veterinary Services (RAVS) program, supporting animal shelters and animal sheltering through a variety of programs, promoting companion animal health, creating momentum for spaying and neutering to curb the homeless animal population crisis, advancing trap-neuter-release programs to deal with the feral cat challenge, staging training conferences, advancing a Pets-for-Life campaign to keep animals and people together, pressing for friendly pets in housing policies, and pushing an agenda of federal and state laws concerning animals in disaster relief, tethering, anti-freeze poisoning, and many other measures.

Here is a link to Wayne’s discussion of the quotes some people like to cite.
http://hsus.typepad.com/wayne/2007/07/desperate-disto.html

I appreciate the chance to enlist some of you in getting the word out on these issues.

i see that you and Wayne and others in your organization keep referring to employess as “officials”. in what capacity are they “official”? What makes an HSUS volunteer or paid worker ‘offical”

Oh gee.. why not.. you want unlimited donations and NO accountability.. Any “charitable’ organization that soliicts funds from the general public SHOULD have UNLIMITED ACCOUNTABILTY and give answers continuously to any questions asked of them..

let us not forget the mother of us all. Saint Ingrid..bringing forth our “light to the world” and the “end of days” for animals

As for Wayne.. Say Halleluia…He is the “King”. and don’t forget to.. Pass the “collection plate”

Many of the things the CCF have reported have come to light elsewhere and the anti-pet, anti-breeding agenda of animal rightists comes straight out of their own mouths and publications.

“the Center for Consumer Freedom is about allowing people to continue to exploit and abuse animals in any way they see fit. ”

The HSUS is about eliminating animals from our lives in every way. Animal rightists hate the CCF because they are helping shed light on their real agenda which is not about animal welfare. Instead of believing Pacelle’s rhetoric look at what the HSUS is doing. The HSUS is just PETA in a more expensive suit.

Its not just the CCF that is shedding light on the machinations of the HSUS but ordinary pet owners who are fed up with their lies.

In case you missed it, check out the above link for just one instance of a highly public renunciation of violence and extralegal tactics by Goodwin. There are many others, and the fact that state and federal law enforcement agencies are willing to work with him, with the same fact set, shows just what a red herring game you are playing. I am sure that some of you would prefer to cast him forever in a negative light but it doesn’t work, as his turnaround reflects the success of the conventional approaches to advancing social change. We want to persuade those who used errant tactics in the past to adopt better and legal approaches. You too should celebrate this instead of forever harping on a youthful enthusiasm that was taking someone in the wrong direction. You all want an unlimited accountability and answers from us, and once we shoot down or address one of your concerns you move quickly on to something else. It suggests to me that you aren’t really interested in the facts concerning Goodwin or The HSUS. That’s too bad.

I would also like to see detailed finaincial statements showing that the money you claimed was spent, was actually spent the way you describe.

“he HSUS did offer to pay for the costs of care of the dogs while Surry County held them, since the initial seizure was conducted by its officials, and Surry County took us up on our offer.”

Oh sure they did. How much did they fraudulently collect and how much was actually passed on to the county? Why wasn’t that stated up front? Why was the web page taken down so quickly? Because the HSUS has much to hide. If the general public were more aware of their real agenda which has nothing to do with animal protection then the cash flow would dry up. Thats why Wayne is so bothered about CCF. But many people saw it before CCF reported it.

The truth is the HSUS spends very little of its millions on actually helping animals and what they do has little to do with animal protection. Thats just spin. Its to this country’s shame that groups like the HSUS would let children go hungry and homeless so they can make it more difficult for us all to have pets.

“Humane” Wayne also said all the pit bulls confiscated should be killed. Celebrating animals? Thats cheap talk.

Chris

Here’s some more for you Bernard … I spoke at great length with a woman at HSUS last week. I asked her specifically where the “special donations” are being spent particularly because Michael Vick’s dogs were NEVER in the care, custody, and control of the HSUS. These dogs are in four different counties (not just Surry) and HSUS has “no business” telling anyone what to do with these dogs when they are no longer considered as evidentiary. Let Pacelle “show” the receipts where monies were spent directly for the care of these dogs!! Let’s see some documentation addressed to HSUS where they claim they were told repeatedly that monies from HSUS were not required. There is no such documentation!!

I asked HSUS last week: What qualifications does John “JP” Goodwin possess to be considered a dog fighting “expert”?

This was the “mumbo jumbo” piece of claptrap rhetoric that was explained to me:

“Mr. Goodwin has extensive training in RESEARCH & DEVELOPMENT.”

Really? “I” have an extensive R&D background in Global Navigation Satellite Systems. Does that make me an “expert”, too? Where do I sign up for his six-figure salary?

And, what exactly were those qualifications that HSUS was hoping to find on the resumes of prospective candidates for this position… DOMESTIC TERRORIST? The FBI has Goodwin higher up the foodchain than Al Qaida! Give me a break, Bernard. Dance your way out of these comments.

Goodwin is a high school dropout who sets fires!!! When he couldn’t sit down in an intelligent fashion to get his point of view expressed, he simply SET ANOTHER FIRE! Would you like to see his photograph in his ANIMAL LIBERATION FRONT tshirt? It would make a super desksaver for you!

Pacelle is an AR zealot at the controls of a cash-generating machine! No less. No more. His agenda is so clear that it is transparent!! Irwin, the former Prez, was an “ordained minister”. Boy, that sure came in handy when he made his appeals from the animals rights’ pulpit to SEND MONEY!!

Oh, before I forget … When I asked the woman that I was speaking with at great length (yes, I have her number … yes, I have her email address) about Goodwin’s ties with ALF and why would any non-profit organization (or any corporation for that matter) hire him, her response was:

“Are we to judge people by their past actions? We have many people working here that were formerly with PETA & ALF!!”

Good God! Pass the collection plate and tell me how to apply. I actually have a few degrees that Pacelle might consider useful. Oh, let me re-think that. Pacelle would have a serious problem with me … my brain is NOT pre-programmed to the Tower of (Pacelle) Babel. I am not fast tracking to buy his baloney. He can’t sell it to me. Since I was never a PETA-trained “operative”, he wouldn’t be able to flip my switch and hardwire me to his way of thinking.

Pacelle’s most prominent problem as of this writing? He knows his ship is taking on water. His days of rhetoric spewing are numbered!! Since I am aware, Bernard, that you will take this blog comment directly back to your boy, Wayne, please tell him I look forward to engaging “him” next time in verbal volleyball. Engaging you in further discussion is like playing with an unarmed opponent. Just no fun, Bernie!

For 10 years, The HSUS has been the undisputed national leader in battling dogfighting and other forms of organized animal combat. During this time, our investigators have worked with local law enforcement officials in some 100 major organized dogfight ring cases, providing expertise and assistance, testifying in trials, and caring for thousands of dogs maimed in the fighting pits.

The facts in the Vick case are as follows. The HSUS did offer to pay for the costs of care of the dogs while Surry County held them, since the initial seizure was conducted by its officials, and Surry County took us up on our offer. We were pleased to be able to provide financial support to the county for its care of the dogs before the federal authorities took over.

The HSUS donation form that mentioned care of the dogs (and support for our larger anti-dogfighting campaign) was up for several days only, and was then replaced with a general anti-dogfighting donation request form. By that time, the animals had been seized by the federal