I would believe CCF over the stories I have heard from HSUS. You work for them right? They are selling your book also? The true agenda of HSUS is being found and it sure isn’t just animal ‘welfare’. It looks much more like animal RIGHTS clothed in a more socially acceptable form. Whitlling away at people’s rights to own ANY animal incrementally. No donations to you and no thanks.

In reply to Bernard Uti’s comment (Date: August 4, 2007, 5:58 am), he suggests that “There are many articles on the Internet about the Center for Consumer Freedom and what it stands for. Check them out too.”

Well, Mr. Uti, I have done my homework on Center for Consumer Freedom. You clearly have issues with them because they are shedding light on your boy, Wayne. Might I suggest to you that you take a bit of time today and do your research on two “international” organizations and what they represent: (1) The International Cat Writer’s Association (CWA) and (2) The Iams Company.

It was announced yesterday by CWA that Wayne Pacelle will NO LONGER be their guest speaker at their annual banquet on November 17, 2007. He has been “uninvited”!! For Pacelle to have even been considered at one time to speak at such an event boggles the mind. Dog and cat writers internationally were outraged. They have sent him a clear message that he is not wanted at their 14th Annual Conference.

If that still doesn’t have you thinking, Mr. Uti, then please read on.

Here is a letter written by Marti Hissong, Iams Consumer Care NA:

Dear Dog Enthusiast:

You recently contacted us regarding our affiliation with the HSUS. We’d like to thank you for taking the time to express your concern as well as update you on a recent decision made by our organization.

The Iams Company will NOT BE FUNDING the Petfest America events with HSUS again next year. We appreciate all of the direct feedback we have received from the dog community and apologize for the frustration that this sponsorship has caused. We have a lot of exciting innovations planned next year, which will require our focused time and resources.

As a leader in the pet industry, The Iams Company is about educating all pet owners on pet health care and nutrition – from the family pet to the active competitor. We are definitely pro-dog and clearly not anti-hunting. We look forward to continuing our long history of support of the sporting dog community and leadership in the industry with innovative research to improve the health and well-being of athletic dogs.

We hope that we can put this behind us and focus on the future — great performing foods for great performing dogs.

*** Mr. Uti, please advise Wayne Pacelle that he has a lot more to be concerned about than just CCF and NAIA. All eyes are on him now and he is being closely watched. His deceptive practices have gone on far too long. Where are the Katrina monies? Where are the Katrina dogs? Oh, I know. Just like the “special donation” for the care of Michael Vick’s dogs, these Katrina monies have gone into that great big warchest Pacelle uses to fund all of his legislation.

Take a look at HSUS 2006 Annual Report and you will see the millions of dollars spent on legislation, fundraising, and strategic communication and a tiny pittance towards the actual humane community. How many parties does Wayne Pacelle need in the Hamptons? HSUS has been misrepresenting themselves to the world for years. Pacelle’s tears (boo hoo) are falling on deaf ears!

He has a lot more to worry about than CCF and NAIA. He has to worry about me … and … thousands of people like me who are watching his every move!

It is high time that the true nature of HSUS was just as exposed as the innards of a zebra are while a lion is eating it. You don’t need to look very deep into this organization and see evil comparable to that of a religious cult. HSUS’s ‘media machine’ along with PETA, IFAW, API, etc. is designed to push through the animal rights agenda at every possible level, and in every possible way. Ciorrupt childern in schools, who cannt tell the truth from the lies. Corrupt lawmakers with the right words to get them to introduce draconian laws that HSUS convienenttly wrote for them. Corrupt the legal system by teaching lawyers so-called ‘animal law’. Openly represnt yourselves as a Humane Society even when your fine print– and your form 990 clearly show you aren’t. Fleece millions of senior citizens (my mom was one of them) into giving of their fixed income to further your twisted agenda. In the case of PETA, openly promote terrorism. I know of few other groups that are so sold-out on presenting their ideas in this manner. It just about makes HSUS meet the legal definition of a ‘religion’. If this is the case, HSUS has no business 1.) Trying to influence legislation like they currently do, and 2.) Attack my ‘religious practice’ of loving the animals I own, or eatiung them if they are good animals for eating.

Dear Carole Baskin, once again, your are wrong. Reread my editorial, nobody in it is promoting dog fights. The issue here is that HSUS was asking for money to support Vicks dogs, even though they didn’t even have a custody of his dogs, that is the issue and that is what is being discussed. It is you who is trying to divert issue from HSUS questionable fundraising tactics to your pet projects.

I don’t think a single perosn who truly stands ‘for the animals and their owners’ supports dogfighting. It is cruel by any defintion you can ascribe to First of all, we are seeing the depths of the corruption of organizations like HSUS here. they will gladly lie to raise more money, and they have recently been caught red-handed for lying. (And the Department of Justice is looking into it!) And on the case, of breeding animals for fur, what can you areue against it? Every animal comes with a pelt. Fur is warm and comfortable. If the animal is cared fior responsibly, and humanely killed, who is being harmed? Animals are a renewable resource that needs to be used to be renewed. As far as ‘sporting’ with animals go, there are lots of ‘sports’ where animals are used in a way that it is not harmful or cruel to the animal. For instance, out here in Reno, we have one of the biggest rodeos there is. I am told that the bulls know the riders, and will actually adjust their action to individual riders– its a game to them! And just what do you define as ‘amusement’? Is visiting your sanctuary, or staying overnight in a cabin there ‘amusement’? Now, lets review what your vision is. Per your ’20 year plan’, the animals would simply be eliminated so that __nobody__ could ever enjoy them again.

This August 25, 2006 article from our web site is just one of the many pieces that provide an account of our spending. Take a look.

One Year after Katrina, Pets Factor into Disaster Planning

As America marks the first anniversary of Hurricane Katrina’s ruinous landfall Aug. 29, and the tragic sequence of events that followed, the disaster’s impact upon animals remains one of its most compelling elements. Tens of thousands of domestic and wild animals perished from drowning, starvation, disease, and misfortune, while many others were separated from the people who loved them.

Katrina was a signal episode in the history of animal protection, and a transformative moment for The HSUS. Our ability to deploy personnel, expertise, and supplies, to dispense emergency funds, to draw public attention to the plight of animals, and to secure legislation to guarantee their safety in future disasters pushed The HSUS into the center of the humane movement’s response.

A year later, the hurricane continues to generate substantial challenges for The HSUS and its many partners, both small and large. As a result of all of our efforts, however, the conditions of tragedy that epitomized Katrina have given way to progress — progress in law, policy, and practice that will have lasting impact within and beyond the Gulf Coast states. Together, these changes promise to dramatically lessen, if not entirely prevent, the disproportionate, deadly impact of disasters on animals.

A new political and public policy landscape

“Hurricane Katrina and its aftermath have forever changed this nation’s thinking about the importance of taking animals into account during an emergency,” says Wayne Pacelle, HSUS CEO and president. “Preparedness at all levels is essential in a world where natural disasters, emergencies, war, zoonotic disease outbreaks, terrorism, and other threats are ever-present.”

The most important national outcome of The HSUS’s year-long response to Katrina has been the rapid advancement of a federal bill that would guarantee the incorporation of animals into disaster planning efforts, and lay the groundwork for a transformation of public policy approaches to the handling of animals in emergency situations. As a direct result of The HSUS’ leadership, the Pets Evacuation and Transportation Standards (PETS) Act was passed by both the House and the Senate and is expected, after the two chambers iron out some differences, to be signed by President Bush.

The HSUS and its many partners in the animal care community have also made substantial progress at the state and local levels, and in direct interaction with disaster response agencies around the country. With an enhanced Disaster Services division, led by Randy Covey, who participated in Katrina relief as a representative of the Oregon Humane Society, The HSUS has strengthened its own capacity to respond to a range of emergency situations, including natural disaster, man-made emergency, and large-scale animal cruelty scenarios.

“Katrina was a seminal event in disaster response involving animals, and we’re doing all we can to learn from the experience,” Covey said. “At the same time, our job is to look forward, and to make sure that we are even better prepared for the range of threats animals face, and to help communities all over the United States to develop their own capacity to respond.”

The Road to Recovery

Of $34 million dollars received from nearly 300,000 generous donors in response to our 2005 disaster appeals, The HSUS has spent or committed more than $30 million thus far. Much of it we spent during the emergency itself, and in the immediate aftermath.

Most of the remainder will be spent on long-term initiatives to restore and enhance the capacity of the animal care community in Louisiana and Mississippi, and to curb the historic problems of animal overpopulation and heartworm in the region. This account highlights some of our major expenditures.
Unloading homeless pets rescued in
Katrina’s wake.

Rescue and Support Operations

Nearly $6.3 million of the funds donated to The HSUS supported our direct response to the crisis in the Gulf Coast states, encompassing:

rescue, relief, and rehabilitation of more than 10,000 displaced, hungry, and frightened animals during the emergency phase of operations;
co-operative management of several emergency sheltering facilities in Louisiana and Mississippi;
pet reunion efforts at on-site locations and at our headquarters;
travel and field expenses for hundreds of volunteers;
animal rescue vehicles and trailers; and
logistical support to convey supplies and services.
Reunions

The HSUS dedicated more than $800,000 to the operation of a reunion center – to assist or confirm the reunion of displaced animals with the people looking for them – and the transportation fees necessary to effect such reunions.

Trapping and Rescue Operations

The HSUS spent almost $225,000 on high-volume trapping and other rescue operations focused on homeless and feral animals in Louisiana and Mississippi in the immediate aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.

Legislative Efforts

The HSUS spent a little less than $563,000 in its efforts to secure passage of the Pets Evacuation and Transportation Standards (PETS) Act, legislation that promises to transform the landscape of disaster relief work when it comes to the handling and treatment of animals.

Reconstruction Grants

To date, The HSUS has given away or committed $8.35 million—to approximately 45 organizations in the Gulf Coast states—for the reconstruction or replacement of hurricane-ravaged animal shelters and wildlife rehabilitation centers. The centerpiece of this investment was our $4.5 million grant-and-aid package to the Louisiana SPCA, which, aided by the Houston SPCA, transported 260 shelter animals to safety two days before Katrina destroyed its facilities, and rebounded to play a crucial role in emergency response and to reestablish itself as the principal entity for animal care and control in Orleans Parish.

The Humane Society of South Mississippi, whose facilities were also devastated by the hurricane, received $965,000. At least seven other organizations received $50,000 or more in building grants.

Reimbursement Grants

The HSUS has made close to $2.3 million in reimbursement grants to approximately 130 local humane societies, animal control agencies, and rescue groups from 29 states (as well as from Canada and the District of Columbia). These groups were the backbone of on-the-ground rescue and relief operations during Hurricane Katrina, sending staff members to the stricken zones, accepting and caring for Katrina animals, and working to reunite displaced animals with the people searching for them.

Spay/Neuter Investments

The HSUS has invested more than $2.8 million on spaying and neutering campaigns in Louisiana and Mississippi, to address the Gulf Coast region’s intractable animal overpopulation problem, exacerbated by the disaster and its aftermath. The HSUS approach includes support for aggressive spay/neuter initiatives in the short term and a long term follow-up effort. The latter will combine programs to strengthen institutional capacity for spaying and neutering in the region with a public education initiative that targets misconceptions, lack of awareness, and reservations concerning the costs and benefits of spaying and neutering animals.

The goal of The HSUS in supporting these efforts was to ensure that Gulf Coast animal organizations could return to their full range of activities without having to devote their post-Katrina resources to an unmanageable animal control challenge caused by a surplus of homeless animals. And it is paying off well in the form of tangible gains from spaying and neutering programs in Louisiana and Mississippi, and the creation of lasting partnerships to benefit animal care and control work in the region.

As an added benefit, this spaying and neutering program ensures that there will be fewer homeless animals on the streets, minimizing the potential for animal suffering when another disaster strikes.

Disaster Preparedness Grants

The HSUS has spent or committed $563,000 on the disbursement of disaster preparedness grants to animal care institutions in the Gulf Coast region, so that they will be better equipped to address their most immediate needs when the next emergency hits.

Additional Partnerships and Programs:

Overflow Facilities in California, Louisiana, and Texas

During the hurricane, the Dixon Correctional Institute (DCI), a medium security prison in Jackson, La., approximately 30 miles north of Baton Rouge, allowed The HSUS to bring more than 100 dogs and cats to the facility, where they were cared for by inmates and trustees under the supervision of DCI and HSUS staff. Caretakers took responsibility for feeding, watering, walking and cleaning cages, and socialized the animals to increase their chances of adoptability. Building on this experience, officials of DCI, Louisiana State University School of Veterinary Medicine, and The HSUS have agreed to collaborate on the establishment of a permanent, short term holding facility and surgical suite at DCI. The HSUS plans to commit $500,000 to this project.

The facility will house, on a rotating basis, companion animals from local area shelters and humane organizations, and will be incorporated into the off-site rotation schedule for LSU veterinary medical students. At DCI, under the supervision of LSU faculty, future veterinarians will perfect spay/neuter surgical skills and experience shelter-based medicine. The HSUS will have no management or financial support role, but should another emergency necessitate the evacuation of animals from elsewhere in Louisiana, our disaster personnel will be permitted to house them at the facility.

In addition to our project with DCI, The HSUS has committed an additional $750,000 toward the construction of short-term overflow facilities, to provide animal housing capacity during future disasters and emergencies, at the Cleveland Amory Black Beauty Ranch in Murchison, Texas and The Fund for Animals Wildlife Rehabilitation Center in Ramona, Calif.

Disaster Services

Drawing on the lessons of Katrina, The HSUS has also moved to enhance its own Disaster Services division, committing $4.7 million spread over the next three years to developing the humane movement’s most comprehensive disaster response team, with experts in rescue, sheltering, logistics, technology, and veterinary services. Now, our expanded Disaster Services team is leading The HSUS’ response to large-scale cruelty and hoarding cases as well as to wildfires, flooding, and other disaster and emergency scenarios. In anticipation of future emergencies and disasters, the division is also focusing on animal-related preparedness planning and training at the federal, state and local levels.

Non-Katrina Disaster Work

The HSUS and its global arm, Humane Society International, played a crucial role in response to other natural disasters during 2005, devoting $238,000 to relief work in Florida and Mexico after Hurricane Wilma, in Pakistan after a horrendous earthquake struck, and in India when flooding endangered animals.

The forced mass abandonment of thousands of animals in the vicinity of New Orleans, and the other animal-related emergencies that followed in Katrina’s wake, created a crisis of unprecedented scope for the humane movement. Thanks to the outpouring of support from donors across the land, and the extraordinary effort of many volunteers in Mississippi, Louisiana, and around the country, The HSUS has been able to save thousands of animals from certain death, bolster the recovery and reconstruction efforts of the Gulf Coast animal care community, underwrite a substantial spaying and neutering initiative, and strengthen its capacity to provide for animals whenever and wherever disaster strikes in the future.

Dear Bernard,
I still want to know the answer, short and direct answer to the original issue in my editorial: WHY was HSUS soliciting money for Vick’s dogs care even though HSUS never had a custody of these dogs? Don’t you think it is unethical, or maybe worse? And now that HSUS got the donations, don’t you think it is wrong of HSUS to ask that the dogs be killed?
Please, stop trying to distract us with mad cows and stick with the subject, which is questionable fundraising relating to Vicks dogs. Looking forward to your dierct and truthful answer.

How much money did HSUS collect to help care for Vick’s dogs and how much did HSUS actually donate to the shelter? It can not cost that much to care for few dogs for few days. The right, ethical and ‘humane” thing to do would be to donate all the money HSUS collected and offer them to rehabbers to rehab Vick’s dog so they can b eplaced and live happily ever after. My guess is most people who donated wanted the money to go to the dogs’ survival, not euthanasia.

You’ve gotta be kidding me. You people really think that you’re fooling anybody? Every time a dog so much as farts, you are running a fund raiser! Where exactly are these funds going? How much money do you truly need in order to “aid” in each situation? These dogs were not dead. They were a bit beaten up (as to be expected for what they were used for) but still in good enough condition that they can still be saved. They CAN be rehabilitated. You seriously mean to tell me that your terrorist group (oh darn…did I say that out loud?…I meant “Organization”) doesn’t have the funds to toss a few thousand bucks (out of the millions in your bank account from other suckers who actually believe what you are doing is “for the animals) to the shelter(s) where these animals are kept in order to aid in housing, food, vaccines, and rehabilitation? It doesn’t cost that much. I, as well as everybody else…would LOVE to see receipts from the donations received and how much was actually given to the dogs. My guess…very little to NONE.

Chris

I applaud the help that HSUS has provided to animals that were in harm’s way during the Katrina disaster (Still, there are numerous stories out there describing problems with this poeration.) I als applaud their effort to get the PETS act passed. Their efforts to stop dog fighting are also welcome. But, what about HSUS’s ‘other’ campagins? Eliminating the exotic animals I love and work with? Taking the steak off my dinnertable? Taking the fur coat off my back? Working to ensure my pets will never reproduice? Working hard to ban hunting, a human activity as old as our digestive system? Any of these actions is reprehensible in the eyes of any thinking American. I am also seeing HSUS in the middle of a major ‘damage control’ campagin to try and shore up their sagging image. The truth will evetually catch up with HSUS, API, PETA and the other animal rights zealots.

I would also like to see detailed finaincial statements showing that the money you claimed was spent, was actually spent the way you describe.

http://www.satyamag.com/mar04/pacelle.html

In case you missed it, check out the above link for just one instance of a highly public renunciation of violence and extralegal tactics by Goodwin. There are many others, and the fact that state and federal law enforcement agencies are willing to work with him, with the same fact set, shows just what a red herring game you are playing. I am sure that some of you would prefer to cast him forever in a negative light but it doesn’t work, as his turnaround reflects the success of the conventional approaches to advancing social change. We want to persuade those who used errant tactics in the past to adopt better and legal approaches. You too should celebrate this instead of forever harping on a youthful enthusiasm that was taking someone in the wrong direction. You all want an unlimited accountability and answers from us, and once we shoot down or address one of your concerns you move quickly on to something else. It suggests to me that you aren’t really interested in the facts concerning Goodwin or The HSUS. That’s too bad.

Praise Jesus.. our little Johnny has been saved.. dipped in the waters of animal rights devotionism.. he has been cast forever from the “negative light”.dousing forever the fire in his ‘youthful” belly.Let us ‘celebrate” his turn from “errant tactics”.. ( those that put him in jail)..his.Let us ‘celebrate” his turn to six figure salaries.. appearances on televison..pictures in magazines.. after all he earned in in the name of “research and development’ say Halleluia..

let us not forget the mother of us all. Saint Ingrid..bringing forth our “light to the world” and the “end of days” for animals

As for Wayne.. Say Halleluia…He is the “King”. and don’t forget to.. Pass the “collection plate”

Bernie:

i see that you and Wayne and others in your organization keep referring to employess as “officials”. in what capacity are they “official”? What makes an HSUS volunteer or paid worker ‘offical”

Speaking to accountability, The HSUS has a higher standing with Charity Navigator (www.charitynavigator.org) than any animal organization in its peer group. Not only that, but The HSUS’s efficiency ratios exceed the Better Business Bureau Wise Giving Alliance standards. The BBB WGA requires that program expenses as a percentage of total expenses be 65% or greater. The HSUS’s program expenses as a percentage of total expenses is 81% for 2006, up from 79% in 2005. Further, The HSUS meets all BBB WGA standards, financial and otherwise. I doubt that the CCF, NAIA, or any of the non-profits promoting the keeping of exotic pets, or the societies devoted to illegal animal fighting, could do better. I consider that we are highly accountable to those who donate to us, through our annual report, our IRS filings, and other mechanisms.

We generally would not refer to a volunteer as an HSUS official. I think that consistent with the designations commonly used by other organizations and agencies that a staff member could be termed an “official.”

Do you really believe there is an unlimited accountability that we might have to someone who gives five dollars a year, or to someone (like yourself perhaps) who gives no money to The HSUS at all?

Why do you treat J.P. Goodwin’s change of heart and his effort to make his life a meaningful one of engagement with an admitted social scourge (animal fighting) as a topic of satire? Do you doubt that it’s sincere, and what is your evidence? Wouldn’t it be great if every person headed down the wrong social pathway was amenable and committed to “course correction”?

By the way, the idea that The HSUS is anti-pet is absurd on its face. The HSUS, under Wayne Pacelle’s leadership, has expanded its programs devoted to companion animals, providing hands on direct care through its Rural Animal Veterinary Services (RAVS) program, supporting animal shelters and animal sheltering through a variety of programs, promoting companion animal health, creating momentum for spaying and neutering to curb the homeless animal population crisis, advancing trap-neuter-release programs to deal with the feral cat challenge, staging training conferences, advancing a Pets-for-Life campaign to keep animals and people together, pressing for friendly pets in housing policies, and pushing an agenda of federal and state laws concerning animals in disaster relief, tethering, anti-freeze poisoning, and many other measures.

Here is a link to Wayne’s discussion of the quotes some people like to cite.
http://hsus.typepad.com/wayne/2007/07/desperate-disto.html

I appreciate the chance to enlist some of you in getting the word out on these issues.

“The HSUS has a higher standing with Charity Navigator (www.charitynavigator.org) than any animal organization in its peer group.”

Your “peer group” is the terrorist affiliated PETA and other animal rightist organizations that have no respect for human life. Not something you should be bragging about. The rating by charity navigator says more about your expertise in deception than actual charity work.

“The HSUS’s program expenses as a percentage of total expenses is 81% for 2006, up from 79% in 2005.”

More spin Bernard. The HSUS spends precious little actually helping animals. It spends far more on salaries, fundraising and anti-pet lobbying.

“Do you really believe there is an unlimited accountability that we might have to someone who gives five dollars a year, or to someone (like yourself perhaps) who gives no money to The HSUS at all?”

What utter contempt you display for those who donate to your organization.

“Why do you treat J.P. Goodwin’s change of heart and his effort to make his life a meaningful one of engagement with an admitted social scourge (animal fighting) as a topic of satire? Do you doubt that it’s sincere, and what is your evidence? ”

Of course its not sincere. A leopard does not change its spots. Goodwin is only doing whats expedient for him as you are with your spin.

“By the way, the idea that The HSUS is anti-pet is absurd on its face.”

The HSUS, under Pacelle’s leadership has had a hand in passing more anti-pet legislation than ever before. Despite the fact that mandatory spay/neuter has been shown not to work, the HSUS keeps pushing for it. Pet extinction is their goal. The only reason you won’t admit it is because you know the funds will dry up.

The HSUS has also done virtually nothing to fight BSL. They are in fact, FOR BSL as mandatory spay/neuter will go far in destroying great breeds.

The HSUS does very little in the way of direct help Bernard and you know it. You charge animal shelters and others for your “help” and charge exorbitant prices for publications.

The HSUS expertise lies in conning good people out of their money and using it against them to lobby for anti-pet and anti-meat legislation.

The HSUS achieves this by repeating many lies over and over so people will begin to believe them including lying about various studies to push their legislation. They continue to punish responsible owners by pushing mandatory spay/neuter laws when responsible owners are not the problem. The ones left footing the bill are the ones who do nothing wrong. But every pet owner is a criminal in the eyes of the HSUS.

Proof that HSUS is against pets? Bernard, your group constantly pushes for laws and bans on exotic pets, exotics are loved animals too and make great pets, and all animals used to be wild.
HSUS also supports castration and hysterectomy laws (spay/neuter if you are using politically correct language).
If you castrate all animals, how is that not a pet extinction?
I am assuming that unless I donate big money to HSUS, you will not reveal to me how much you collected for Vick’s dogs? I guess it is all about money after all?

You know, Mr. Unti, you can’t truthfully deny facts like the fact that PETA and HSUS are one and the same organization. What you can do is try to slide around the truths and see who you can deceive into sending your more money and adopting your policies, and you do that. Spin doctors like yourself actually lie about PETA’s and HSUS’s agenda that they have admitted to more than once.

Even dogfighting is better than extinction of the species. I am so very glad that dogfighting at least is unnecessary to the continuation of a species. What I will not do to fight against dogfighting, something that you and even some of the “real” humane societies will do, is accuse people without evidence, use the fact of dogfighting against private ownership, or violate human rights in order to fight it. Your “expert” on dogfighting, J.P. Goodwin, is also an expert on violating civil rights by setting fire to people’s property.

The connections between PETA and the HSUS are strong enough to easily fall under RICO. It’s an open and shut case, really. PETA has given material support to domestic terrorists belonging to the ALF and the HSUS is an arm of PETA now. ALF openly practices terrorism against individuals and corporations. For the sum of $250,000 I will tell you what ALF has done that has put itself, PETA, the HSUS, API, and several other so-called animal protection organizations in a terrible bind, but I would also tell everyone at the same time. You really need this information but there is only one thing that you can do with it that would give you a hope in Hades of preventing it from destroying you. You’re not going to like it.

You again avoid questions Bernard.

“Rose, I forgot to mention that we have a pets in the office policy that encourages staff members to bring their animals to work if they wish to do so. Would you say that too is a part of an elaborate deception?”

Simple deception, not elaborate. Rather like showing Newkirk or Pacelle with a dog or cat when they don’t particularly care for either. Its all for the image.

“Who do you know that spends more than The HSUS in directly helping animals? ”

The HSUS is more successful at deceiving the public than other organizations but other organizations spend a larger percentage on what they take in on direct help.

“And would you agree that some efforts, like working to secure anti-dogfighting legislation, or to reduce the number of homeless animals, do bring benefits to local shelters?”

BS Bernard. The HSUS is now using the Vick case merely as a money making machine. You don’t care about the dogs. Pacelle himself said they should be killed. Your “efforts” to reduce the number of animals going into shelters is like killing AIDS patients so no one else gets the disease.

“There’s a lot of stuff we do that directly advances their work. If this wasn’t the case, they wouldn’t populate our annual training conference with 1500 attendees.”

Which you charge for being a “charitable” organization. You get a lot of mileage out of the name. Many go because they believe you are a legitimate animal welfare organization which of course you are not.

“Where, by the way, is the evidence that we are against petkeeping? ”

Don’t be coy Bernard. You can try and dismiss many quotes or claim they were taken out of context but they are an accurate reflection of your organization and the animal rights movement in general.

How about the pet extinction bills you’re pushing for all over the country even though mandatory spay/neuter has been shown not to work? Why does the HSUS NEVER help anyone have more fun with an animal? Why do you treat responsible owners as criminals? Why do you repeatedly lie about various studies to promote your anti-pet agenda and making it harder for people to have pets? If you really were the animal lovers you claimed you’d be fighting BSL, promoting pet ownership and many other things. But you’re working against it. Thats in addition to doing everything you can to force people into an unnatural vegan diet.

“Did you hear the good news that the American Veal Association will phase out the use of the crate by 2017? None of this is a result of antimeat legislation.”

More disinformation Bernard. The HSUS is chipping away where it can in an effort to stop everyone from eating meat. Pacelle has even lied about mad cow disease in that quest.

“Say, what is this list for anyway, people who want to keep exotic animals as pets? Maybe that is the reason there’s so much defensiveness and unwillingness to acknowledge the good work that The HSUS and other organizations do. ”

For every bit of good work you may do you undo it with your work against pet owners and your deceitfulness to the public. For the HSUS the bad outweighs the good.

It is interesting that at just about every legislative hearing involving an animal ownership ban bill, there is a representative from HSUS present. (I am including normal pet bills here, as well as exotics.) When they speak, it is always for the ban bill. You do you suppose that is? Why do you suppose people here are defensive? We cherish our right to own and use animals, and will use every legal means to preserve that right. HSUS’s anti-meat agenda has been made clear over and over again. So has anit-fur, and many others. Indeed, mr Goodwyn might have changed– into a dangerous ‘nonviolent’ tool for pushing ‘social change’. We,, there are millions of Americans who do not agree with your ‘social change’. there are alos those duped into the so-called ‘social change’. My elderly mother, for instance, kept giving money to HSUS, I am sure when their ‘little spot is abused’ mailings came around. Despite repeated warnings to her, your deception still robbed her of her fixed income. Thankfully, my brother got power of attorney for her, and one of the first things he did was stop the giving to HSUS.

So, we might now have a ‘kinder, gentler’ HSUS, but they are working to do their ‘change’ below the surface where most people observe it. A lot of laws are passed, and people don’t even know about them until that law is used against them. Few people these days take the time to participate in their government, despite the fasntastic array of tools available to them for participation. We are slowly fixing that problem. We see what HSUS, API, PETA, IFAW and other groups are doing. So, your ‘kinder gentler’ approach is little more than a new paint job to a mortuary.

As for dogfighting, ANSWER THE ORIGINAL QUESTIONS ZUZANA ASKED YOU!!!!!! The very fact that you won’t shows you have no desire to be accountable whatsoever. If you have no accountability, I question whether you have any credibility, either.

Well Bernard, you’re avoiding many questions. That is revealing in itself.

Pacelle did indeed lie about mad cow disease entering our food supply and he had zero evidence. He also lied about pigs being able to contract it when its never naturally occurred in pigs.

“see our longstanding policy against violence and threatening tactics”

Cheap words Bernard. When push comes to shove the HSUS does next to nothing to denounce it because they support it (as they showed by hiring Goodwin).

Your entire article was full of the usual HSUS propaganda. As for the CCF its amusing you criticize it for the HSUS is even more deceptive with how it spends its money. Its also more deceitful with the public. But the CCF is not the organization that made false claims about caring for Vicks dogs to get money – the HSUS is.

“The HSUS stands for, above all its core ethic of promoting compassion and respect for life.”

Now thats an outright lie Bernard. The HSUS has no respect for human life. Pacelle recently said Vicks dogs should be killed. Your organization also has no respect for pets as its behind every ban, restrictive ownership and extinction (mandatory s/n) bill.

“I’m proud of the article, as I am of the organization”

You’re proud of an organization that puts animal ahead of humans, seeks to eliminate pets, ban all hunting, meat eating, etc, etc. This also means no more therapy dogs, guide dogs for the blind, search and rescue dogs, explosives detection dogs and many other services. Its appalling anyone would be proud of that.

Do answer the question Bernard. Stop putting up smokescreens.

“You” meaning the HSUS.

Mr. Uti, we are still waiting for answers. How much money did you take in in the name of caring for Vick’s dogs, and how much did you spend on the dogs? Something that can be independently audited would be much appreciated!

Looks like the HSUS was lying again. Maybe he’s busy constructing a story that others will cooperate with.

For those that don’t know a lot about history…Here is a condensed version…
Humans originally existed as members of small bands of nomadic hunters/gatherers. They lived on deer in the mountains during the summer and would go to the coast and live on fish and lobster in the winter.
The two most important events in all of history were the invention of beer and the invention of the wheel. The wheel was invented to get man to the beer. These were the foundation of modern civilization and together were the catalyst for the splitting of humanity into two distinct subgroups:
1. Humans for lack of rights/Liberals; and
2. Humans for rights/Conservatives.
Once beer was discovered, it required grain and that was the beginning of agriculture. Neither the glass bottle nor aluminum can were invented yet, so while our early humans were sitting around waiting for them to be invented, they just stayed close to the brewery.
That’s how villages were formed.
Some men spent their days tracking and killing animals to B-B-Q at night while they were drinking beer. This was the beginning of what is known as the Conservative movement.
Other men who were weaker and less skilled at hunting learned to live off the conservatives by showing up for the nightly B-B-Q Cole slaw and doing the sewing, fetching, and hair dressing. This was the beginning of the Animal Rights (AR’s) movement.
Some of these AR men eventually evolved into women. The rest became known as girlie-men or wussies. Some AR achievements include the invention of group therapy, group hugs, and the concept of soliciting money to help decide how to abolish the meat and beer that conservatives provided.
Over the years Conservatives came to be symbolized by the largest, most powerful land animal on earth; the elephant.
Liberals are symbolized by the jackass.
A few modern liberals like Mexican light beer (with lime added), but most prefer a chilled glass of Sauvignon Blanc, with passion fruit and kiwi aromas which are marked by grassy notes, then rounded out on the mid palate by nutty woodsy flavors. Crisp and refreshing, with a hint of chalky minerals on the finish; or Pierre bottled water. They eat raw Tofu but dislike beef. Soy burgers, bean sprouts and organic fruit are standard AR fare.
Another interesting evolutionary side note: most of their women have higher testosterone levels than their men. Most social workers, personal injury attorneys, Ivy League professors, dreamers in Hollywood and group therapists are liberals. Liberals invented the designated-hitter rule because it wasn’t fair to make the pitcher also bat.
Conservatives drink Sam Adams, Wild Turkey or Russian Vodka. They eat red meat and still provide for their women. Conservatives are hunters, fishermen, rodeo cowboys, lumberjacks, construction workers, firemen, medical doctors, police officers, athletes, Marines, and generally anyone who works productively.
Conservatives who own companies hire other conservatives who want to work for a living.
Liberals produce little or nothing. They like to govern the producers and decide what to do with the production. Liberals believe Europeans are more enlightened than Americans. That is why most of the liberals remained in Europe when conservatives were coming to America. They crept in after the Wild West was tamed and created a business of trying to get more for nothing i.e.; solicitation, cha-ching…ala free money!
Here ends today’s lesson in world history: It should be noted that AR’s may have a momentary urge to angrily respond to the above. A Conservative will simply laugh and be convinced of the absolute truth of this history. Personally, I don’t know whether to laugh or down a shot of Jack Daniels with my big juicy steak.

Several comments, regarding several postings:

First, Carol Lewis Baskin of Big Cat Rescue, it’s no surprise which side of this you would espouse from, as YOU are the subject of fundraising fraud. I guess you, Wayne and Bernard might enjoy some cheese with your whine, as you comiserate.
After a link to the Bay News 9 expose’ disclosing fraud and deceit at Carole Lewis Baskin’s Big Cat Rescue was posted here http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0707/4968_Page2.html Carole hurried to change certain information on her website. On what we like to call her CMA Page (cover my ass) she once again deleted some text while adding more. View the expose’ here. http://phoenixexotics.org/BigCatonBayNews9.wmv

Second, in the wake of the LA Attorney General’s Katrina H$U$ Fraud investigation, H$U$ hastily ammended their “Official Statement of Policy” to read:
“Disasters”
“A wide range of natural and techological disasters, as well as war and terrorism, place animals in jeopardy around the world. The HSUS will strive to rescue and care for animals trapped in these circumstances whenever local and regional capacities have been overwhelmed. The nature and extent of HSUS effortswill vary, depeding upon issues of timing, access, available resources, and security of human responders. The HSUS will attend to companion animals trapped in these settingsas well as to farm animals and wildlife whenever possible. In the case of companion animals, captive wildlife and farm animals, The HSUS will endeavor to reunite them with responsible caretakers.
We believe that attention to the protection of animals at riskin disasters and other crisis is a responsibility of government, since animals play such a central role in the emotional and economic well-being of people throughout the world. Intervention to rescue and care for animals trapped in disasters or other crisis requires coordinated advance planning and preparation among non profit and government agencies at all levels and must include organized efforts to urge and support people to include animals in their personal disaster contingency plans. When Animal rescue does not impede human rescue and relief imperatives, government responders should directly assist animals in need, cooperating with animal welfare organizations in the process.”
(Approved by the Board of Directors on January 6, 2006)
For all of you that don’t fluently speak “rhetoric”, this means that HSUS is not responsible or accountable for disaster rescue, it’s the government problem – but they will tell the government what to do, and the owners are at fault for not planning ahead. Oh, and if H$U$ doesn’t believe you are a “responsible caretaker”, then you will NEVER see your animal again! Any Questions?
Moving on to that “Charity Navigator” statement, My PERSONAL inquiry to Charity Navigator regarding their “4 star rating” was responded to as follows:
Thank you for your interest in Charity Navigator and for your commitment to responsible and informed philanthropy.

Our ratings solely evaluate the fiscal health of charities. We decline to make any subjective assessments about a charity and we are unable to alter a charity’s rating based on allegations. We hope over time to expand the information and services we provide givers. However, we’re still seeking a methodology with which we’re comfortable.

In the meantime, we continue to recommend that givers refrain from using our ratings as the only factor in deciding whether to support a particular organization. Givers should also seek out additional information from charities directly and through other private and public sources. Intelligent giving depends upon reliable information. Charity Navigator provides an important piece of this information, and we encourage givers to learn as much as they can about a charity before deciding to support it.

Please take care,

Sandra

Sandra Miniutti
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Because ASPCA is no longer “animal welfare”. They have subtly shifted to AR, and are selling dog owners down the river with “guardianship”!

A lot of people are on to your deceptions, Bernard.

You know, one can have a very properly and sucessfully run fund-raising operation that raises money for the wrong cause. All of the big AR groups have very shrewd PR people who know exactly how to ‘spin’ their stories to counter the opposition. For the public, apparently, it works. To us who really know the truth, it is like a beautiful piece of gold jewelry that is actually gold plated lead. So, I’m really glad tour ‘fleece with deception’ program works so well that it has gotten such a high rating

With so much money they are the number one killer of animals! HSUS & ASPCA

Who’s going to save us from Obama? He’s loading his cabinet with animal rights activists.