I have a quote from Thomas Jefferson’s own personal journal that proves my above point, and I quote:

“The Christian god is a three headed monster, cruel, vengeful, and capacious. If one wishes to know more of this raging, three headed beast-like god, one only needs to look at the caliber of people who say they serve him. They are always of two classes: fools and hypocrites.”

A vast majority of the American founding fathers were Freemasons, this is historically documented. There is irrefutable evidence that the Freemasons had common roots with 12,000 year old Satanism, but modern Freemasons (within about the last 100 years) were never informed of the common roots resulting in the order insisting that they have no ties with Satanism what-so-ever when the evidence, and all other known facts, proves them wrong. It is also a known and documented fact that Ben Franklin (another American founding father) is listed on documents as a member of a British Satanic group called “the Hellfire Club”, founded and run by a British nobleman named Sir Francis Dashwood.

The obvious conclusion is the “Religious Right”, “God Warriors”, or “Moral Majority” are groups of idiots who deny all human history in order to push an illogical, ignorant, and stupid idea of humanity. Even a common atheist can see the problems with these Judeo-Christian fools! America has already failed the world by electing George W. Bush into office for two four-year terms, not to mention every other republican ever elected since the early 80s! Vote Democrate or Independent if you wish, or don’t even vote at all, but DON’T fail the world again! America being Liberal is not what caused the terror attacks on September 11/01… It was the arrogance and ignorance of the Right-wing political and religious movements!

People who believe in Santa Claus or any of the many variants lack the ability to discern fantasy from reality. You all deserve each other.

My name is Joe Ching. So I am using “joeching” to post in this forum. There is no way I would have used any other name but my own. This is an example of self-assertiveness. And this self-assertiveness extends to my total belief in myself and my fellow human beings. It asserts that we shall answer only to our own consciences. And our deeds shall represent humanity. The authority stops here, not any higher.

It may have something to do with my genetic makeup — what I called the id-gene. In the course of human breeding, some of us, especially in China whose culture has revolved around breeding, have genetically evolved past the threshold of the ability to identify themselves as full human beings. Like children becoming independent from his parents and turning into adults, they now do not need to rely on any higher authority, like god, to behave responsibly.

But, for most Westerners, the situation seems a bit different. A general sense of self-inadequacy prevails, reinforced by the Christian concept of sin. Lack of self-assertiveness causes them to habitually not want to be themselves. From a shot of whisky for altering the mental state to plastic implants for altering the outward appearances, combating insecurity has been a major preoccupation. For many, a fixed-all solution is God.

So now, similar to the phenomenon of a fully grown person behaving like an irresponsible mother’s baby, we have a bunch of God’s creatures running around doing sanctioned deeds for their God. History is filled with killings and dyings for God.

One good example is George Bush. Without God, he used to be an alcoholic. And God pulled him out the bottle and put him in the cesspool of politics. Since his Christian God hates the Muslims’ God, so now he is addicted, instead, to killing Muslims in the Mideast.

But the simple fact is: God is only temporary. The Westerners just need to be patient enough to wait for the id-gene to develop to let go of God by achieving humanhood.

This happened to China 5000 years ago. We started to record our human experience in what is history when the best among us attained full humanhood. They were confident enough to lead us to live in harmony with each other and Mother Nature, free from any superstitious belief in gods. The limits of our authority is bounded by the sky above and ground below. The Westerners’ mistaken interpretation of them as the Godly Heaven and Hell comes from their own disability to be one with Nature.

The closest parallel a Chinese can draw to the concept of God is that, if a Chinese does have gods, it’s his parents. And we all expect our children to grow up to become better than gods.

My religious friends have urged me to read religious literatures. They assured me that the ideas in the writings are similar to my own cherished Chinese culture. Little did they know, they were making a big out of something trivial. These ideas that they considered to be my Chinese cultures are merely something I picked up in my retiring years from browsing the Web, watching documentaries and Oriental TV series, interacting with natives in China and, yes, last but not the least, talking on forums, in which I have a strong dose of Christian preaching from the the religious types.

Well, this whole situation has been a puzzlement for me for some times. But when I saw clear evidences of behaviors of religious faithful that were contrary to the common-sense rules of human conducts, I sensed a prevailing conspiracy in the religion-dominated part of the world.

In that part of the world, many people consider religion is morality. But in its many different forms, religions have, in effect, individually hijacked morality. Each religious group adapts its religion for it’s own expedience, leaving morality teachings as a secondary pursuit.

Now, morality is barred from being taught in schools because it’s impossible to agree which religion to teach. The different priorities that identify themselves with different religions have caused most of the conflicts in the world.

It’s as senseless to say that religious extremists hijacked their religion, as it is as sensible to say their religions have hijacked the extremists.

In non-religious part of the world, where morality were inborn into one’s conscience, or what Chinese like to called their benevolent hearts(Á¼ÐÄ), there is no escape but to obey one’s moral principles. The world was on Nature’s auto-mode. There was no good and evil, but only cause and effect. Man is one with the Universe.

But since the invasion of religionists, many non-religionists innocently incorporated the principles of religions into their morality. But when such principles are packaged with a overruling figure like God, the escape clause spells huge loopholes. While before this happened, deep down, all self-assertive persons were able to tell facts from fiction and beliefs from superstition, now, however, using the convenient God as a scapegoat, a person become expediently capable of anything, some time as evil as it comes.

Ever since, the world has been caught up in either open or covert religious wars.

Nature seems to have its own way to deal with this man-made problem — just let the weak-minded, lost souls of religious zealots kill each others off. But mankind is also anxious to solve this problem himself. The religious die-hards on all sides have embarked on creating mutual annihilation weapons of mass destruction. Now they are all racing full speed toward Armageddon.

This might be God’s will, but not human’s.

We must do something. We need to forget about the present-day’s lost generation and put all our efforts into salvaging future generations. We need to confront religion head on. Let’s make it compulsory to teach religion in school. But let’s teach all the religions in one same class. This would hopefully filter out the gods and goblings, while leave the mutually reinforcing teachings of morality in the minds of the students. I know this might just be about the most fearful scenario to the religious faithful. But the alternative is the terrorama, that is now in full bloom.

In the current crash between the Christians/Jews and the Muslims, there hold a little hope for the militant Christians and Jews. But to my Muslim brothers, I do want to suggest to them: There is still life after God.

Muslims and Chinese went way back. Between these two groups of old geezers, not too many subjects should be taboo. So, before the juveniles of the world get out of control with their delinquent ideas, let’s knock our heads together to make sense of what’s happening today by removing all the remaining taboos.

First, as evidenced by current world events, it’s the agnostic Chinese who have the firm grasp of things, living harmoniously and optimistically among themselves and with Nature, while all the religious faithful are locked up in chaos. Why?

As mentioned earlier, the Chinese had one time also extended beyond our physical surroundings and put our faiths in higher authorities, such as gods. But as we evolved, during our pre-recorded history which must have been for tens of thousands of years, we had come to find the goodness in us.

In particular, we started to learn how to fully appreciate the unconditional sacrifices of our parents and ancestors in creating better lives for us. We feel we are actually “living onward” for our parents, just as our children will be “living onward” for us.

It must also be in our genes, bred meticulously for thousands of years, that made us acquire the sense that our offspring are still us. So, ensuring their growing and prospering has becomes the full scope of our life’s purpose.

On the surface, outsiders only see Chinese as fanatical ancestor worshippers. but in truth, we are only being pragmatic. We feel we can preserve our identities in our offspring. In essence, we have seen the immortality of man.

Why not go and tell it to the countless of American rape victims that are raped by Christian men in America. Or maybe the countless of killings. Let’s not forget the KKK (who just happen to also be Christians…if I am not mistaken (which I know I am not) 4 little black girls were killed in a chruch bombing by these Christians.

Oh and let’s not forget our great Bush who went to war under the pretense of WMD b/c he didn’t have the balls to say it was a war on Islam (His CHRISTIAN values just weren’t strong enough).

I love how Christians will point to another Christian who is doing wrong and say “S/He isn’t Christian b/c that isn’t “god-like”" but when a Muslim try to denounce terrorism it turns out our whole entire religion is made up of terrorist (according to most american christians).

I can’t wait to watch these shows. Hopefully it shows Christians true nature:
Sex hungry, money hungry, power hungry,liar, etc. demons.

I guess we’re going to go back to the time that ’science’ was discredited [partly due to big tobacco behind-the-scenes manipulation] to now discredit ‘religion.’

I am so sorry for Christiane — please wake up!

It is unclear that radical islamists today, in venting violence in ways described above, would be straying at all from any reading of the Koran at any level.

This is an important distinction if you use the Hitler analogy.

It is important for each to read the Bible and the Koran, as well as commentaries, favorable and unfavorable for each, and come to conclusions as other bloggers have done.

In short, many Muslims are in fact committing some of the most horrible atrocities known to man currently…..but I hope this offers at lease some insight into how many extremely conservative religious orders can cause great detriment (especially when leaders take some of their expressions far out of context)

MUHAMMAD: “May Allah curse the Jews and Christians for they built the places of worship at the graves of the prophets.” Bukhari, Vol. 1, #427 [Muhammad had been poisoned years earlier by a Jewish woman whose husband was killed by the Muslims and the poison had slowly worked its effect. He said this while dying in the arms of his wife Aisha].

COMMENT
As I’ve studied both of these men’s lives, I find that the above comparison details some of the strongest character differences. Here are their dying words, words that will mark the end of their lives. Christ asks God to forgive His enemies, while Muhammad utters a bitter curse against those who rejected his assertion of prophet hood. Wouldn’t it have been more appropriate for Muhammad to ask Allah to guide the Christians and Jews while he was dying?

JESUS
From John 8:2-11

At dawn He (Jesus) appeared again in the temple courts; where all the people gathered around him, and he sat down to teach them. The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group and said to Jesus, “Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery. In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?” They were using this question as a trap in order to have a basis to accuse Him.
But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with His finger. When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, “If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her.” Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground.
At this, those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older ones first, until only Jesus was left, with the woman still standing there. Jesus straightened up and asked her, “Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?” “No one sir”, she said. “Then neither do I condemn you,” Jesus declared. “Go now and leave your life of sin.”

MUHAMMAD

From the Hadith of Abu Dawud, #4428

“Buraidah said: “A woman of Ghamid came to the Prophet and said: “I have committed fornication”, He said: “Go back”. She returned and on the next day she came to him again, and said: “Perhaps you want to send me back as you did to Maiz b. Malik. I swear by Allah, I am pregnant.” He said to her: “Go back”. She then returned and came to him the next day. He said to her: “Go back until you give birth to the child.” She then returned. When she gave birth to the child she brought the child to him, and said: “Here it is! I have given birth to it.” He said: “Go back, and suckle him until you wean him.” When she had weaned him, she brought him to him with something in his hand which he was eating. The boy was then given to a certain man of the Muslims and he (the prophet) commanded regarding her. So a pit was dug for her, and he gave orders about her and she was stoned to death. Khalid was one of those who were throwing stones at her. He threw a stone at her. When a drop of blood fell on his cheek, he abused her. The prophet said to him: “Gently, Khalid. By Him in whose hand my soul is, she has repented to such an extent that if one who wrongfully takes an extra tax were to repent to a like extent, he would be forgiven”. Then giving command regarding her, prayed over her and she was buried.”"

COMMENT
Here is a stark contrast between the two men. When Jesus dealt with the adulterous woman, He did not condemn her. He commanded her to go and sin no more. He gave her a chance for redemption – the very model of mercy.

How many people have started out down the wrong street, but years later were able to turn their lives around? Not only in that, but they have been able to help others turn their lives around as well? Jesus offered this chance to the woman. Under the law, the Jews could have stoned the woman to death, but Christ’s love and compassion was much greater.

Muhammad’s approach was much different. At first, he tried to dismiss the adulterous woman. She confessed her sin to him, but he refused to hear her and deal with it. Instead, he told her to go back. This occurred three times. Three times Muhammad ran from dealing with the situation. Finally, after the women’s consistent confession, Muhammad was forced to confront her sin. He allowed her to give birth, suckle and then wean the child, which could have taken 1 to 3 years. Then she returned and Muhammad had her killed.

This woman not only confessed, but she repented. She was a good mother to her child and she was a responsible member of her community. Couldn’t Muhammad have forgiven her as he had so many other types of sinners? Muhammad allowed many others off for the sins they committed. Even people who had killed his family members were forgiven if they confessed he was a prophet of God and there was only one God. But Muhammad was unable to deal compassionately with the woman. He couldn’t see beyond his nose. He couldn’t see that she had turned her life around, properly raised her child, and was doing the right thing. Muhammad’s shortsightedness caused her death.

Muhammad did not even deal with it after Judaic law. In Moses’ law, the adulterer was to be stoned to death. Muhammad did not do so; he gave the woman several years to live. Even if you take into account the respite to give birth to a child, Muhammad waited until the woman weaned the child. Surely there were other women who could have nursed the child. Muhammad simply dealt with the situation as best, (or not best) as he could; Muhammad made up his own rules as he went along.

8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned!
9 As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned!

Islam will fall, it’s foundation suggests no less.

Muhammad (he knows no peace) was born around 532 A.D. (That’s right, A.D.) This will not be disputed by Islam.

Islam is the Anti-Christ religion. Don’t believe me, ask a muslim. Ask them who died on the cross. Their answer, if they know their own Koran, is that Jesus (the Son of the Most High), was taken before he died, and that Judas (yes, the betrayer) was put in his place, and that only the people that it was Jesus (the Son of the Most High).

If ever there was a religion that wanted to damn your souls by forcing you to deny Jesus (the Son of the Most High), Islam rates high in all categories.

They can say and do all they want, we still win!

Narrated ‘Aisha:

that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).

In other words, seems your politician wants you to become a pedophile and have sex with 9 year olds…..hmm.

I am a Hindu, and Here is a difference…..
A Christian, Jew or even a Hindu conservative (which Muslims point as misbeliever, as well as radical extremist )…
In fact, what ever they did, was when Muslim(also Minorities) had crossed boundaries …. and when water had gone over toleration limits… it exploded… and an open session was on all minorities…

crusade occurred when Mohammedians burned holiest church of Christiandom… and even Jews had to suffer of it..

Hindus killed Muslim in Gujarat… when Muslims Jihadi had come out openly as a open session of innocent Hindu pilgrim womens and Children’s in Godhra….. beside this Muslim Mosque was announcing to slaughter all Hindus at train burning site… and in aftermath, even Christian suffered…

So the biggest difference is here….

A Muslim says “You will die for what I believe”, and a Infidel says… “I will die to prove, what I believe”…

still any words ???

how can the cnn equate christianity with islamo-fascism?

the cnn are stupid, naive, politcally correct and ass-holes.

christians should rise up and destroy this garbage media and the liberals behind them.

Would you complain about a series of specials on “Muslim rapists,” “Christian rapists,” and “Jewish rapists”? The term WARRIOR is the key here. When your religious devotion reaches the point of violence, you’re over the edge. Don’t pretend Christianity doesn’t have its own shameful legacy here too.