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	<title>Comments on: Toward Vatican III</title>
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		<title>By: Mike Moritaisa</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/18570#comment-1385683</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Moritaisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 09:58:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vatican II aimed at aggiornamento but failed to deliver it.  There was no fundamental aggiornamento.  For example, the Tale of Adam and Eve and the Talking Snake is still read out once per three years as the ‘word of the Lord’.  Really! How much longer will the Church try to keep the genie in the bottle?

There is a need for the Church to have a root and branch, no holds barred, overall reappraisal, to acknowledge where lack of knowledge at the time made it wrong and where it set in concrete definitions that were intrinsically beyond its competence.  This should have happened at Vatican II, but there was never any likelihood that the aged cardinals – most born around the turn of the 19th/20th century or even earlier - would do it.  If de Chardin had not been prohibited by his superiors from publishing ‘The Phenomenon of Man’ when he wrote it in the 1930s (his works were published by friends after his death in 1956) things might have been different, but there was insufficient time for his vision to be disseminated and assimilated.

For a few thoughts about subjects that need to be addressed by Vatican III and do more than just scratch the surface visit www.VaticanIII.Aggiornamento.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vatican II aimed at aggiornamento but failed to deliver it.  There was no fundamental aggiornamento.  For example, the Tale of Adam and Eve and the Talking Snake is still read out once per three years as the ‘word of the Lord’.  Really! How much longer will the Church try to keep the genie in the bottle?</p>
<p>There is a need for the Church to have a root and branch, no holds barred, overall reappraisal, to acknowledge where lack of knowledge at the time made it wrong and where it set in concrete definitions that were intrinsically beyond its competence.  This should have happened at Vatican II, but there was never any likelihood that the aged cardinals – most born around the turn of the 19th/20th century or even earlier - would do it.  If de Chardin had not been prohibited by his superiors from publishing ‘The Phenomenon of Man’ when he wrote it in the 1930s (his works were published by friends after his death in 1956) things might have been different, but there was insufficient time for his vision to be disseminated and assimilated.</p>
<p>For a few thoughts about subjects that need to be addressed by Vatican III and do more than just scratch the surface visit <a href="http://www.VaticanIII.Aggiornamento." rel="nofollow">http://www.VaticanIII.Aggiornamento.</a></p>
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		<title>By: plwin</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/18570#comment-59770</link>
		<dc:creator>plwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 12:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In previous days it was "Let us pray." Today it is "Let us dream."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In previous days it was &#8220;Let us pray.&#8221; Today it is &#8220;Let us dream.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy Reyes</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/18570#comment-59502</link>
		<dc:creator>Nancy Reyes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 01:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Latin mass has more to do with grass roots rebellion against guitar masses and half naked nuns doing liturgical dance than against the real Vatican II. The Latin mass represents tradition and reverence. If the damn liturgists had allowed reverence in the English mass, along with hymns that praised God instead of praising ourselves, you wouldn't have a lot of the most pious Catholics joining the local Protestant churches or the Pius X organization. 

In Asia and Africa, there is less call for the mass, because the cultures are different. I prefer mass in Tagalog and so I doubt we'll change. 

The irony is that the middle management yuppies who claim to represent "vatican II" never read the actual articles, and merely infused 1970's fads into the church. The JPII generation of kids see them as "out of date".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Latin mass has more to do with grass roots rebellion against guitar masses and half naked nuns doing liturgical dance than against the real Vatican II. The Latin mass represents tradition and reverence. If the damn liturgists had allowed reverence in the English mass, along with hymns that praised God instead of praising ourselves, you wouldn&#8217;t have a lot of the most pious Catholics joining the local Protestant churches or the Pius X organization. </p>
<p>In Asia and Africa, there is less call for the mass, because the cultures are different. I prefer mass in Tagalog and so I doubt we&#8217;ll change. </p>
<p>The irony is that the middle management yuppies who claim to represent &#8220;vatican II&#8221; never read the actual articles, and merely infused 1970&#8217;s fads into the church. The JPII generation of kids see them as &#8220;out of date&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: John R.</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/18570#comment-59350</link>
		<dc:creator>John R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 20:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If there is a Vatican III, it should be a council of reunion with the Orthodox and the traditionally minded High Church wing of the Anglican Church.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If there is a Vatican III, it should be a council of reunion with the Orthodox and the traditionally minded High Church wing of the Anglican Church.</p>
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		<title>By: Anti-Pope Clationius VII.IX</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/18570#comment-59277</link>
		<dc:creator>Anti-Pope Clationius VII.IX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 18:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure, why not? I'll give my homies a buzz.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure, why not? I&#8217;ll give my homies a buzz.</p>
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