Comments on: Bring me your tired, your hungry, your poor.. http://www.bloggernews.net/18216 High-quality English language analysis and editorial writing on the news. Wed, 15 Feb 2012 01:07:22 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Marcello http://www.bloggernews.net/18216#comment-52888 Marcello Tue, 03 Jul 2007 05:01:40 +0000 http://www.bloggernews.net/18216#comment-52888 As for american culture.... I know European culture and Eeastern culture where there is no habit like putting legs on table and where people don't believe that everybody throughout the world has to speak his language. Though I don't want to argue about this. "Every frog praises own bog" (well known proverb). And americans should be glad that others communicate with them using their langauge. I have full right to write here Russian or other language I speak and I doubt that you will understand it. Or do you mean that other languages are lower than English? Let's leave this wordy skirmish it seems to be endless because each of us has own truth. And as to tet-a-tet:) you understood it as invitation for fighting? (does "go head to head" mean this?) Hey bud, then you are too aggressive :D It is not time to wave with fists yet. Do you like beer or something stronger? Indeed it is better to speak tet-a-tet with such drinks? isn't it? :) But if you really want to fight I want to say that in childhood I didn't run with butterfly net and didn't sit before PC only :) We are on different coasts of Atlantic oucean. But relax and think about beer and fresh air. As for american culture…. I know European culture and Eeastern culture where there is no habit like putting legs on table and where people don’t believe that everybody throughout the world has to speak his language. Though I don’t want to argue about this. “Every frog praises own bog” (well known proverb). And americans should be glad that others communicate with them using their langauge. I have full right to write here Russian or other language I speak and I doubt that you will understand it. Or do you mean that other languages are lower than English?
Let’s leave this wordy skirmish it seems to be endless because each of us has own truth. And as to tet-a-tet:) you understood it as invitation for fighting? (does “go head to head” mean this?) Hey bud, then you are too aggressive :D It is not time to wave with fists yet. Do you like beer or something stronger? Indeed it is better to speak tet-a-tet with such drinks? isn’t it? :) But if you really want to fight I want to say that in childhood I didn’t run with butterfly net and didn’t sit before PC only :) We are on different coasts of Atlantic oucean. But relax and think about beer and fresh air.

]]> By: David Dalton http://www.bloggernews.net/18216#comment-52429 David Dalton Mon, 02 Jul 2007 15:38:21 +0000 http://www.bloggernews.net/18216#comment-52429 Marcello, you clearly indicated that you felt entitled to come to the US because of your degreed status and scoffed at the notion that manual laborers were allowed in ahead of you, puffing a theory about the US and Canada only recruiting "Black Ashmen." Then, after <i>completely dissing the entire American working middle-class</i> you're saying that you don't believe that you've judged who is better or worse? I think the problem is that you only know American culture through the TV. Paris Hilton is not an accurate cross-section of Americans. You wanna go tet-a-tet with me, pal? You let me know when you're in the American southeast and we'll go head to head. Marcello, you clearly indicated that you felt entitled to come to the US because of your degreed status and scoffed at the notion that manual laborers were allowed in ahead of you, puffing a theory about the US and Canada only recruiting “Black Ashmen.” Then, after completely dissing the entire American working middle-class you’re saying that you don’t believe that you’ve judged who is better or worse? I think the problem is that you only know American culture through the TV. Paris Hilton is not an accurate cross-section of Americans.

You wanna go tet-a-tet with me, pal? You let me know when you’re in the American southeast and we’ll go head to head.

]]> By: Marcello http://www.bloggernews.net/18216#comment-52136 Marcello Mon, 02 Jul 2007 05:49:05 +0000 http://www.bloggernews.net/18216#comment-52136 David, there is no word that somebody is better or worse. I have no right to judge this, maybe you have. Attracting people must be done with some logic. And your words "If it’s so bad here then stay where you are" are too late for me since there are too many places on "mother Earth" to go there. And I enjoy them. I don't want to make this page for sorting out our relationship, it is better to do it tet-a-tet. Once again: "Time will put all in own place. Fast or slow." Isn't it true? David, there is no word that somebody is better or worse. I have no right to judge this, maybe you have.
Attracting people must be done with some logic. And your words “If it’s so bad here then stay where you are” are too late for me since there are too many places on “mother Earth” to go there. And I enjoy them. I don’t want to make this page for sorting out our relationship, it is better to do it tet-a-tet.
Once again: “Time will put all in own place. Fast or slow.” Isn’t it true?

]]> By: David Dalton http://www.bloggernews.net/18216#comment-50932 David Dalton Sat, 30 Jun 2007 13:28:10 +0000 http://www.bloggernews.net/18216#comment-50932 Marcello: If it's so bad here then stay where you are. The last thing America needs is another conspiracy theorist / sour grapes culture case. I would imagine that those degrees qualify you to be a street sweeper, but I really can't say for sure. The thing to remember is that there is nothing WRONG with being a street sweeper and that's what too many immigrants can't seem to grasp (my latino friends are the exception). America is about starting at the bottom and working for a better life and sending your kids to college so they start a rung or two higher up the ladder than you did. The simple fact that you have multiple degrees and "passable" English doesn't make you a better person than anyone else. Marcello: If it’s so bad here then stay where you are. The last thing America needs is another conspiracy theorist / sour grapes culture case. I would imagine that those degrees qualify you to be a street sweeper, but I really can’t say for sure.

The thing to remember is that there is nothing WRONG with being a street sweeper and that’s what too many immigrants can’t seem to grasp (my latino friends are the exception). America is about starting at the bottom and working for a better life and sending your kids to college so they start a rung or two higher up the ladder than you did.

The simple fact that you have multiple degrees and “passable” English doesn’t make you a better person than anyone else.

]]> By: Marcello http://www.bloggernews.net/18216#comment-50777 Marcello Sat, 30 Jun 2007 08:00:29 +0000 http://www.bloggernews.net/18216#comment-50777 It is "normal" practice of US authorities (I think Canada is the same case). In winter 2006 I was rejected in US consulate for DV-Lottery Visa for insignificant reason. I have 2 high educations in theoretical physics and banking, have not too poor english spoken and written. But... And I was witness of giving visa for those who were less qualified. Then I came to idea that US authorities want to attract people for black job as ashmen, street cleaners, loaders, and etc. Because to my opinion average american won't work there for money that non-americans are ready to get. The reason why do I tell this is that this logic of attracting people outside seems too strange. And it contributes to vanishing any respect for US. And I agree with author with wasting talents. American and Canadian authorities believe that all talents of the world live there in North America only and foreigners are for serving them :) Time will put all in own place. Fast or slow It is “normal” practice of US authorities (I think Canada is the same case). In winter 2006 I was rejected in US consulate for DV-Lottery Visa for insignificant reason. I have 2 high educations in theoretical physics and banking, have not too poor english spoken and written. But… And I was witness of giving visa for those who were less qualified. Then I came to idea that US authorities want to attract people for black job as ashmen, street cleaners, loaders, and etc. Because to my opinion average american won’t work there for money that non-americans are ready to get. The reason why do I tell this is that this logic of attracting people outside seems too strange. And it contributes to vanishing any respect for US. And I agree with author with wasting talents. American and Canadian authorities believe that all talents of the world live there in North America only and foreigners are for serving them :) Time will put all in own place. Fast or slow

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