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	<title>Comments on: Fewer U.S. Boys Being Circumcised</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 07:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mandatory Circumcision For All Boys</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/17908#comment-1348151</link>
		<dc:creator>Mandatory Circumcision For All Boys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 23:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doctors should just go ahead and circumcise all baby boys without any consent.  Then they can't be sued and all boys will be circumcised, like it should be.</description>
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		<title>By: Mandatory Circumcision For All Boys</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/17908#comment-1348136</link>
		<dc:creator>Mandatory Circumcision For All Boys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 23:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Foreskins belong in a trash can not on a penis.</description>
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		<title>By: stupid people</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/17908#comment-1188672</link>
		<dc:creator>stupid people</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 09:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not being cut is NORMAL. Stop being ignorant and leave your little hick towns and you will see that it is OK to be either cut or not it doesnt really matter. And any female that would care if you were cut or un-cut is probably some whore that needs to go get circumcised her self (yes girls also can get circumcised) 

But to start using facts, its proven UN-CUT penises are more pleasurable to both men and women. 

And it is also proven that un-cut penises are NOT any more likely to carry STD's or  AIDS.

Oh and also a true fact when circumcised you lose 2-3 inches of penis.

And to get to the whole hygiene issue, im un-cut and have absolutely no problem with smell, but im pretty clean 2 showers a day and scrub it good, and its out of its helmet most of the day. And anyone that has a smelly penis try soap and water you nasty fucks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not being cut is NORMAL. Stop being ignorant and leave your little hick towns and you will see that it is OK to be either cut or not it doesnt really matter. And any female that would care if you were cut or un-cut is probably some whore that needs to go get circumcised her self (yes girls also can get circumcised) </p>
<p>But to start using facts, its proven UN-CUT penises are more pleasurable to both men and women. </p>
<p>And it is also proven that un-cut penises are NOT any more likely to carry STD&#8217;s or  AIDS.</p>
<p>Oh and also a true fact when circumcised you lose 2-3 inches of penis.</p>
<p>And to get to the whole hygiene issue, im un-cut and have absolutely no problem with smell, but im pretty clean 2 showers a day and scrub it good, and its out of its helmet most of the day. And anyone that has a smelly penis try soap and water you nasty fucks.</p>
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		<title>By: psyk</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/17908#comment-1033406</link>
		<dc:creator>psyk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 21:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm not circumcised. Nor do I ever want to snip my skin down there. In high school, I made fun of kids all the time who were circumcised, and they did the same to me. There was always a GOOD vs. Evil kinda thing going on between us. Ultimately, I don't care, as long as the male is okay with...whatever they are. But, in sexual intercourse I think it does help some way. I guess you just have to have a foreskin to know. Oh well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not circumcised. Nor do I ever want to snip my skin down there. In high school, I made fun of kids all the time who were circumcised, and they did the same to me. There was always a GOOD vs. Evil kinda thing going on between us. Ultimately, I don&#8217;t care, as long as the male is okay with&#8230;whatever they are. But, in sexual intercourse I think it does help some way. I guess you just have to have a foreskin to know. Oh well.</p>
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		<title>By: kikizulu1980</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/17908#comment-929168</link>
		<dc:creator>kikizulu1980</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 10:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Circumision is great because it also cuts down the unernaty track infections and keep them clear and hyegenic and things. Not having them cicumised is also abuse in my OPINION because it takes care of the better and make they also cut down on HIV and other dieases like that when being circmused.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Circumision is great because it also cuts down the unernaty track infections and keep them clear and hyegenic and things. Not having them cicumised is also abuse in my OPINION because it takes care of the better and make they also cut down on HIV and other dieases like that when being circmused.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/17908#comment-830708</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 06:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bloggernews.net/17908#comment-830708</guid>
		<description>The USA is the only developed country that circumcises the majority of its sons. About 60% still fall victim to this bizarre practice which cannot be in any way justified. In some European countries the practice is now outlawed.

The glans is designed by nature to be an internal organ. Why internal, well like the inside of your mouth and female labia, it's supposed to remain moist membrane. When the foreskin is removed the chaffing against clothing turns the glans into dried out skin.

Yes, there is a heavy price to be paid for destroying the foreskin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The USA is the only developed country that circumcises the majority of its sons. About 60% still fall victim to this bizarre practice which cannot be in any way justified. In some European countries the practice is now outlawed.</p>
<p>The glans is designed by nature to be an internal organ. Why internal, well like the inside of your mouth and female labia, it&#8217;s supposed to remain moist membrane. When the foreskin is removed the chaffing against clothing turns the glans into dried out skin.</p>
<p>Yes, there is a heavy price to be paid for destroying the foreskin.</p>
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		<title>By: RICHARD LONGSOCK</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/17908#comment-765312</link>
		<dc:creator>RICHARD LONGSOCK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 23:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bloggernews.net/17908#comment-765312</guid>
		<description>SCHOOL THE BOY IN THE CONCEPT OF FORSKIN RETRACTION.

DAILY GUIDEANCE AND ENCOURAGEMENT IN PINIAL MINIPULATION WILL PROCUDE SATISFACTAORY GLANS EXPOSURE.

AN IMBARRASED PRUDE WILL SUPRESS A CHILDS SELF DISCOVERY AND DEVELOPE RHETORIC TO ABSOLVE THEN SELFS OF THERE FEELINS OF SELF GUILT  AND ALLOW INFANT CIRCUMSISION .

IS IT EASER TO CHOP THAN TEACH HOW TO HELP YOUR SELF..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SCHOOL THE BOY IN THE CONCEPT OF FORSKIN RETRACTION.</p>
<p>DAILY GUIDEANCE AND ENCOURAGEMENT IN PINIAL MINIPULATION WILL PROCUDE SATISFACTAORY GLANS EXPOSURE.</p>
<p>AN IMBARRASED PRUDE WILL SUPRESS A CHILDS SELF DISCOVERY AND DEVELOPE RHETORIC TO ABSOLVE THEN SELFS OF THERE FEELINS OF SELF GUILT  AND ALLOW INFANT CIRCUMSISION .</p>
<p>IS IT EASER TO CHOP THAN TEACH HOW TO HELP YOUR SELF..</p>
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		<title>By: Cathy said</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/17908#comment-633461</link>
		<dc:creator>Cathy said</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 16:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mums, would you HOLD your baby, in the circumstraint, while this barbaric act is carried out? Or do you prefer to hand him over to the nurses and have a coffee and chat to the other mumms in the ward.
What is this action telling a new born baby about the world he has just entered when the person who is meant to give him love and security, hand him over to unloving people to inflict this kind of torture?
There is plenty of evidence ,that acts which are inflicted upon us when we are totally defenceless are buried very deep.We deny it or colude with others to perpetrate the same act.Our survival depends on it. 
AMERICA is the most warmongering nation on the earth,anyone care to make a connection?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mums, would you HOLD your baby, in the circumstraint, while this barbaric act is carried out? Or do you prefer to hand him over to the nurses and have a coffee and chat to the other mumms in the ward.<br />
What is this action telling a new born baby about the world he has just entered when the person who is meant to give him love and security, hand him over to unloving people to inflict this kind of torture?<br />
There is plenty of evidence ,that acts which are inflicted upon us when we are totally defenceless are buried very deep.We deny it or colude with others to perpetrate the same act.Our survival depends on it.<br />
AMERICA is the most warmongering nation on the earth,anyone care to make a connection?</p>
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		<title>By: courtney</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/17908#comment-610735</link>
		<dc:creator>courtney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 22:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bloggernews.net/17908#comment-610735</guid>
		<description>I'm just curious about why at 3 1/2, he was getting picked on at school for looking different. Are you talking about preschool? I find it hard to believe that other children even noticed, or that they ever saw it. Kids don't notice color or ethnicity differences at that age unless they are pointed out to them. As a therapist who works with preschool children, that sounds preposterous. I have two sons that have not been circumcised and neither have had a single infection. I would never mutilate my son so that he looked the same as everyone else. If people started cutting off their children's arms, would you do it so they would fit in?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just curious about why at 3 1/2, he was getting picked on at school for looking different. Are you talking about preschool? I find it hard to believe that other children even noticed, or that they ever saw it. Kids don&#8217;t notice color or ethnicity differences at that age unless they are pointed out to them. As a therapist who works with preschool children, that sounds preposterous. I have two sons that have not been circumcised and neither have had a single infection. I would never mutilate my son so that he looked the same as everyone else. If people started cutting off their children&#8217;s arms, would you do it so they would fit in?</p>
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		<title>By: nmay</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/17908#comment-560211</link>
		<dc:creator>nmay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 20:38:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bloggernews.net/17908#comment-560211</guid>
		<description>We chose to have both of our sons circumcised and I'm glad we did.  All of the medical research seems to indicate that there are only potential health benefits, no guaranteed ones.  However, I hear these horror stories about people having to get their sons circumcised later in life and it being so much more painful and traumatic.  I completely respect and understand why a parent would choose not to do it, but I'm still glad we did.  There is a really great debate about circumcision at www.opposingviews.com/questions/should-boys-be-circumcised.  Experts from both sides debate the issue and make some really interesting points.  A very informative read!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We chose to have both of our sons circumcised and I&#8217;m glad we did.  All of the medical research seems to indicate that there are only potential health benefits, no guaranteed ones.  However, I hear these horror stories about people having to get their sons circumcised later in life and it being so much more painful and traumatic.  I completely respect and understand why a parent would choose not to do it, but I&#8217;m still glad we did.  There is a really great debate about circumcision at <a href="http://www.opposingviews.com/questions/should-boys-be-circumcised." rel="nofollow">http://www.opposingviews.com/questions/should-boys-be-circumcised.</a>  Experts from both sides debate the issue and make some really interesting points.  A very informative read!</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/17908#comment-451462</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 13:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bloggernews.net/17908#comment-451462</guid>
		<description>Quoting Erin on here:

"In Europe, where people do not routinely circumcise their children, doctors and parents know that the proper care of a child’s intact penis is to leave it alone."

And the outcome of this in the UK is that our NHS circumcises over 30,00 males every year because of medical problems with their foreskins. Add to these thousands more in the private sector which go unrecorded and you will see that 'leaving alone' doesn't work for many people.

It has been calculated that one in three uncircumcised males will have a problem with their foreskin at some stage in their lives. For many it starts in childhood. Puberty and the beginning of sexual experience is another critical point if the foreskin hasn't developed properly. Then later  the physical stress of a relationship with very regular sex will show up a latent problem or develop one. Finally, in old age or even before, a man may lose the physical or mental capacity to care for his own personal hygiene in washing under his foreskin.

Circumcising a boy eliminates all these potential problems and I congratulate you Carol, on having the good sense to 'cut your and your son's losses' (literally!) when you had the second, relatively early opportunity to do so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quoting Erin on here:</p>
<p>&#8220;In Europe, where people do not routinely circumcise their children, doctors and parents know that the proper care of a child’s intact penis is to leave it alone.&#8221;</p>
<p>And the outcome of this in the UK is that our NHS circumcises over 30,00 males every year because of medical problems with their foreskins. Add to these thousands more in the private sector which go unrecorded and you will see that &#8216;leaving alone&#8217; doesn&#8217;t work for many people.</p>
<p>It has been calculated that one in three uncircumcised males will have a problem with their foreskin at some stage in their lives. For many it starts in childhood. Puberty and the beginning of sexual experience is another critical point if the foreskin hasn&#8217;t developed properly. Then later  the physical stress of a relationship with very regular sex will show up a latent problem or develop one. Finally, in old age or even before, a man may lose the physical or mental capacity to care for his own personal hygiene in washing under his foreskin.</p>
<p>Circumcising a boy eliminates all these potential problems and I congratulate you Carol, on having the good sense to &#8216;cut your and your son&#8217;s losses&#8217; (literally!) when you had the second, relatively early opportunity to do so.</p>
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		<title>By: PSU</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/17908#comment-289842</link>
		<dc:creator>PSU</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 16:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bloggernews.net/17908#comment-289842</guid>
		<description>I'm uncut, never had any problems keeping it clean, and every girl that actually tried out my penis loved it!  Its getting them to do that , that is the hard part.  Most american women are so brainwashed by all this aids, stds, garbage they think uncut is dirty.  Did you know that america has the highest rate of stds and aids out of all industrialized countries, and has the highest rate of circumcision as well? 

I talked to a guy who was cut as an adult, and one who restored, both said with a foreskin it felt a lot better than without! 

To the lady who wrote the blog, you aren't supposed to take your young sons foreskin back when hes just born, you caused him the pain and suffering, and actually created the problem.  Not to sound like an ass, but thats the truth.  

PSU</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m uncut, never had any problems keeping it clean, and every girl that actually tried out my penis loved it!  Its getting them to do that , that is the hard part.  Most american women are so brainwashed by all this aids, stds, garbage they think uncut is dirty.  Did you know that america has the highest rate of stds and aids out of all industrialized countries, and has the highest rate of circumcision as well? </p>
<p>I talked to a guy who was cut as an adult, and one who restored, both said with a foreskin it felt a lot better than without! </p>
<p>To the lady who wrote the blog, you aren&#8217;t supposed to take your young sons foreskin back when hes just born, you caused him the pain and suffering, and actually created the problem.  Not to sound like an ass, but thats the truth.  </p>
<p>PSU</p>
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		<title>By: villareal</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/17908#comment-236254</link>
		<dc:creator>villareal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 09:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am intact and have been intimate with the same woman for 20 years. Her nose is far more sensitive than mine, but she has almost never noticed a disagreeable smell. When she has, a 5 second rinse at the sink suffices to settle the matter. Years ago, we would often begin our intimate time together with a joint shower. She would put on a sweet smile, peel back my foreskin, and wash the tip of my penis with soap. The foreskin makes foreplay via handjob very easy, and traps and distributes precum. The foreskin is so neurologically rich that I incline to believe that it enhances a man's experience of sex. However, it is very much an unsettled matter whether the foreskin improves a woman's experience of vaginal intercourse.

Hundreds of millions of European, Japanese, and Chinese men are uncircumcised. There is no evidence that this has led to a urological disaster. As for the foreskin and AIDS, why have several hundred thousand American gay men died of AIDS since 1980, despite the prevalence of routine infant circ in the USA? This AIDS holocaust has no counterpart in advanced countries that do not circumcise routinely. Heterosexual AIDS in Africa is a different kettle of fish; African data should not be used to address the merits of routine infant circ in the USA.

If a boy experiences no discomfort during erection, no irritation under the foreskin, and can urinate freely, then his foreskin should be left completely alone until he is 15, perhaps even 18 or so. I was able to retract around 9 or 10, and very easily since about 15. If an unretractable foreskin persists into late adolescence, the boy should engage in gentle gradual stretching.

I agree that the fraction of American adult men who are cut is hard to estimate, especially if many babies are now being cut in a doctor's office rather than in the maternity ward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am intact and have been intimate with the same woman for 20 years. Her nose is far more sensitive than mine, but she has almost never noticed a disagreeable smell. When she has, a 5 second rinse at the sink suffices to settle the matter. Years ago, we would often begin our intimate time together with a joint shower. She would put on a sweet smile, peel back my foreskin, and wash the tip of my penis with soap. The foreskin makes foreplay via handjob very easy, and traps and distributes precum. The foreskin is so neurologically rich that I incline to believe that it enhances a man&#8217;s experience of sex. However, it is very much an unsettled matter whether the foreskin improves a woman&#8217;s experience of vaginal intercourse.</p>
<p>Hundreds of millions of European, Japanese, and Chinese men are uncircumcised. There is no evidence that this has led to a urological disaster. As for the foreskin and AIDS, why have several hundred thousand American gay men died of AIDS since 1980, despite the prevalence of routine infant circ in the USA? This AIDS holocaust has no counterpart in advanced countries that do not circumcise routinely. Heterosexual AIDS in Africa is a different kettle of fish; African data should not be used to address the merits of routine infant circ in the USA.</p>
<p>If a boy experiences no discomfort during erection, no irritation under the foreskin, and can urinate freely, then his foreskin should be left completely alone until he is 15, perhaps even 18 or so. I was able to retract around 9 or 10, and very easily since about 15. If an unretractable foreskin persists into late adolescence, the boy should engage in gentle gradual stretching.</p>
<p>I agree that the fraction of American adult men who are cut is hard to estimate, especially if many babies are now being cut in a doctor&#8217;s office rather than in the maternity ward.</p>
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		<title>By: Nico</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/17908#comment-201834</link>
		<dc:creator>Nico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 03:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is quite astonishing to see how americans can be prejudiced against the 'Normal' penis...In ANY other part of the world, it is a non-issue...

Intact doesn't automatically mean 'dirty' (and funny enough the people that think that have often never seen an intact penis)

I am glad however, to see that more and more people are questioning the practice, and again, there is a HUGE difference between an adult male CHOOSING to get it done (for whatever reason) and putting a baby through it without them having a say in the matter!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is quite astonishing to see how americans can be prejudiced against the &#8216;Normal&#8217; penis&#8230;In ANY other part of the world, it is a non-issue&#8230;</p>
<p>Intact doesn&#8217;t automatically mean &#8216;dirty&#8217; (and funny enough the people that think that have often never seen an intact penis)</p>
<p>I am glad however, to see that more and more people are questioning the practice, and again, there is a HUGE difference between an adult male CHOOSING to get it done (for whatever reason) and putting a baby through it without them having a say in the matter!</p>
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		<title>By: jordon</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/17908#comment-124252</link>
		<dc:creator>jordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 06:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bloggernews.net/17908#comment-124252</guid>
		<description>uncircumsized penis's stink Period. A couple of hours or less after the penis has been cleaned it smell rancid AGAIN. I was circumsized as an adult and absolutely do not regret it, wish my parents had done it when I was a new born. All this talk about it just takes a little water to clean it is a big joke. I know other guys who had it done later because they couldn't stand the stench and infections. Alot of men have lousy hygiene, let's face it they can't even manage to trim their nose and ear hair. I guess if you like smelly cheese and like a red, shiney, sticky smelly penis then by all means stay uncircumsized.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>uncircumsized penis&#8217;s stink Period. A couple of hours or less after the penis has been cleaned it smell rancid AGAIN. I was circumsized as an adult and absolutely do not regret it, wish my parents had done it when I was a new born. All this talk about it just takes a little water to clean it is a big joke. I know other guys who had it done later because they couldn&#8217;t stand the stench and infections. Alot of men have lousy hygiene, let&#8217;s face it they can&#8217;t even manage to trim their nose and ear hair. I guess if you like smelly cheese and like a red, shiney, sticky smelly penis then by all means stay uncircumsized.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/17908#comment-121959</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 20:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bloggernews.net/17908#comment-121959</guid>
		<description>I am so happy I have my most sensitive part of my penis.  People that don't have this really should consider that their comments may be lime me saying a clitoris is not needed.

I grew up when most men were cut and I had no issues.  Women don't even know you are intact if it is errect.  There is no hygine issue, just water in the shower.

Care for the cut penis is actually more of a fuss for babies, until it heals.  Also, cut babies are more likely to get killer staff infection.  This is more of a problem in the US than HIV.  Don't touch the baies penis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so happy I have my most sensitive part of my penis.  People that don&#8217;t have this really should consider that their comments may be lime me saying a clitoris is not needed.</p>
<p>I grew up when most men were cut and I had no issues.  Women don&#8217;t even know you are intact if it is errect.  There is no hygine issue, just water in the shower.</p>
<p>Care for the cut penis is actually more of a fuss for babies, until it heals.  Also, cut babies are more likely to get killer staff infection.  This is more of a problem in the US than HIV.  Don&#8217;t touch the baies penis.</p>
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		<title>By: Nico</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/17908#comment-111392</link>
		<dc:creator>Nico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 03:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bloggernews.net/17908#comment-111392</guid>
		<description>Just one reaction to maz: 'i for one would be really mad if my parents hadnt given me the snip when i was born'

Well good on you mate, but if they hadn't, then you COULD HAVE HAD A VOLUNTARY ADULT CIRCUMCISION...

What if the child/man DOESN'T LIKE TO BE CIRCUMCISED at all...What do you do in THAT CASE?

I know quite a few guys from different (anglo-saxon) countries that are REALLY PISSED OFF about having a part of their penis cut off without their consent: This could be avoided by simply LETTING THE INDIVIDUAL DECIDE, when he grows up, whether he wants his foreskin or not...

I really wonder what prompts people to so urgently CUT OFF A HEALTHY PEICE OF THEIR KID'S BODY, while he still does not have a say...


I'd like people to think about that for a while...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just one reaction to maz: &#8216;i for one would be really mad if my parents hadnt given me the snip when i was born&#8217;</p>
<p>Well good on you mate, but if they hadn&#8217;t, then you COULD HAVE HAD A VOLUNTARY ADULT CIRCUMCISION&#8230;</p>
<p>What if the child/man DOESN&#8217;T LIKE TO BE CIRCUMCISED at all&#8230;What do you do in THAT CASE?</p>
<p>I know quite a few guys from different (anglo-saxon) countries that are REALLY PISSED OFF about having a part of their penis cut off without their consent: This could be avoided by simply LETTING THE INDIVIDUAL DECIDE, when he grows up, whether he wants his foreskin or not&#8230;</p>
<p>I really wonder what prompts people to so urgently CUT OFF A HEALTHY PEICE OF THEIR KID&#8217;S BODY, while he still does not have a say&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like people to think about that for a while&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: maz</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/17908#comment-62817</link>
		<dc:creator>maz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 02:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bloggernews.net/17908#comment-62817</guid>
		<description>what's the big deal about circumcision? i'm circumcised, and i like it that way. i don't feel like i've been cheated out of pleasure. i experience it, and i couldnt imagine it any better. it's just a preference. so what? if a mother or father wants their son circed, they should be allowed to do that. you control every other aspect of your child's life, school, clothes, etc. also it is cleaner. i had a roommate in college who was uncirced and besides everyone on the swim team joking about it he told me once that girls didnt like it because the smegma smelled, even if he cleaned himself (he couldnt rely on always being "just out of the shower" if things started to get going with a girl), he even expressed interest in getting the old snip snip. he said it kills him when anti-circ people say it doesn't smell if you just clean it in the shower, cos he had a hell of a time trying to rid the smegma. anyway, foreSKIN it just that, skin. some people like it, and some people don't, simple as that. i enjoy sex as much as the next guy. plenty of guys are circumcised and are great with it. and plenty of guys aren't and are great with that, too. See? just a preference. i for one would be really mad if my parents hadnt given me the snip when i was born. all i'm saying is people need to stop freaking out about it and calling it "mutilation." i like my circed penis. gimme a break.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what&#8217;s the big deal about circumcision? i&#8217;m circumcised, and i like it that way. i don&#8217;t feel like i&#8217;ve been cheated out of pleasure. i experience it, and i couldnt imagine it any better. it&#8217;s just a preference. so what? if a mother or father wants their son circed, they should be allowed to do that. you control every other aspect of your child&#8217;s life, school, clothes, etc. also it is cleaner. i had a roommate in college who was uncirced and besides everyone on the swim team joking about it he told me once that girls didnt like it because the smegma smelled, even if he cleaned himself (he couldnt rely on always being &#8220;just out of the shower&#8221; if things started to get going with a girl), he even expressed interest in getting the old snip snip. he said it kills him when anti-circ people say it doesn&#8217;t smell if you just clean it in the shower, cos he had a hell of a time trying to rid the smegma. anyway, foreSKIN it just that, skin. some people like it, and some people don&#8217;t, simple as that. i enjoy sex as much as the next guy. plenty of guys are circumcised and are great with it. and plenty of guys aren&#8217;t and are great with that, too. See? just a preference. i for one would be really mad if my parents hadnt given me the snip when i was born. all i&#8217;m saying is people need to stop freaking out about it and calling it &#8220;mutilation.&#8221; i like my circed penis. gimme a break.</p>
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		<title>By: samual</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/17908#comment-47969</link>
		<dc:creator>samual</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 12:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more thing, I do believe that mothers would tend to be much better at making this decision than fathers overall, quite frankly, because fathers, regardless of their status, often would tend to be Best towards their own status, and want to pass it along to their son, even if they don't actually think that would otherwise necessarily be the best thing. I don't think all or necessarily even most fathers would be like this, but that it is quite common none the less. I think mothers would tend to be more rational, and might also have experience of both that makes them better at deciding this than men. That is one majore reason why I think it should be the mothers decision. 

I think for most guys, who do keep themselves clean, it dose not matter that much, but is still more hygienic (and this is what women I know who've been with both have told me) and generally healthier if it's done. But it is by no means essential, and I think it has to be the decision of each mother of a son, or a joint parental or even fathers decision at the mothers discretion. Whatever way is chosen is Okay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more thing, I do believe that mothers would tend to be much better at making this decision than fathers overall, quite frankly, because fathers, regardless of their status, often would tend to be Best towards their own status, and want to pass it along to their son, even if they don&#8217;t actually think that would otherwise necessarily be the best thing. I don&#8217;t think all or necessarily even most fathers would be like this, but that it is quite common none the less. I think mothers would tend to be more rational, and might also have experience of both that makes them better at deciding this than men. That is one majore reason why I think it should be the mothers decision. </p>
<p>I think for most guys, who do keep themselves clean, it dose not matter that much, but is still more hygienic (and this is what women I know who&#8217;ve been with both have told me) and generally healthier if it&#8217;s done. But it is by no means essential, and I think it has to be the decision of each mother of a son, or a joint parental or even fathers decision at the mothers discretion. Whatever way is chosen is Okay.</p>
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		<title>By: samual</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/17908#comment-47914</link>
		<dc:creator>samual</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 09:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bloggernews.net/17908#comment-47914</guid>
		<description>Also, from what I have read, the actual infant circumcision rate in the U.S. is actually still a lot higher than 57%, both because many hospitals do not record the procedure in parts of the country, and because a large number of procedures are now being done in doctors offices, ware it is a lot cheaper for those whose insurance/medicaid no longer covers it. (medicaid no longer covers routine circumcision in 16 states, including California) I have heard the actual circ rate estimated by some doctors is still more like 70-75% in the U.S. as a whole. The truth is, the actual rate is not really known, but is almost certainly significantly higher than is being reported. 

I do not personally think there is anything wrong with infant male circumcision, though local anesthetic should be used to reduce pain. Most studies show it as having overall health benefits, but there is some conflicting evidence in that regard. As long as a male Has scrupulous hygiene, circumcision is unnecessary, but a large % of males do not. And unlike with the inner female genitals, a mans penis is not naturally self cleaning, so it is definitely more hygienic if a male is circumcised at birth. Of coarse, good hygiene is important for everyone of both genders. By contrast to male circumcision, so called female "circumcision"-female genital mutilation- (which is actually not practised in most Muslim cultures, though male circumcision is) makes infection more likely, by interfering with the natural cleaning properties of the area. My aunt is a nurse who has personally assisted with numerous circs, and while it is painful for the infant, they do not remember it latter. Based on her expereance dealing with men who have poor hygiene at work who she has had to care for, she is pro circumcision, and had her own circumcised as well. 

Finely, as far as sexual sensation goes, it has now indeed been shown that circumcision DOSE significantly reduce sensitivity for a male, but sexual functioning is not impaired at all, and among older men, studies actually show, all else being equal, circumcised men actually have LOWER rates of sexual dysfunction than those who are not. Reduced sensitivity in a male is not necessarily a bad thing at all. 
My mom had me circumcised at birth for hygienic reasons, and I am glad she did. (and no pain relief was ever used back then) I do not remember it, yes I have Sean a video of it being done without anesthetic, and it is horrible, even with pain relief it still hurts, as a truly effective dose is not safe for routine use in newborns. But I think it is well worth it in the long run. I have plenty of sensitively as well. 

I believe circumcision is a decision that PARENTS have the right to make for their son, and if the parents do not agree, I believe the mother should have the sole right to decider what is best for her son. I believe in gender equality in general, but not on this issue, I just think there is a very strong gender distinction here, that is biologically based. Parents make permanent decisions for their kids all the time, and I do not feel that being circumcised at birth is any violation of a males rights at all. I do see it as being a violation of the rights of a WOMEN who just gave birth to a son, for her to be either pressured not to, or worse to be told she cannot have her son circumcised, or that she must have it done or given no choice and it's just done, if that is not what she wants. I think it is ultimately HER decision, and nobody else has the right interfere with that.  I do not believe circumcision is wrong or harmful at all, as long as it is performed properly, and is actually beneficial in general for both the boy and especially any future female partners of his.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, from what I have read, the actual infant circumcision rate in the U.S. is actually still a lot higher than 57%, both because many hospitals do not record the procedure in parts of the country, and because a large number of procedures are now being done in doctors offices, ware it is a lot cheaper for those whose insurance/medicaid no longer covers it. (medicaid no longer covers routine circumcision in 16 states, including California) I have heard the actual circ rate estimated by some doctors is still more like 70-75% in the U.S. as a whole. The truth is, the actual rate is not really known, but is almost certainly significantly higher than is being reported. </p>
<p>I do not personally think there is anything wrong with infant male circumcision, though local anesthetic should be used to reduce pain. Most studies show it as having overall health benefits, but there is some conflicting evidence in that regard. As long as a male Has scrupulous hygiene, circumcision is unnecessary, but a large % of males do not. And unlike with the inner female genitals, a mans penis is not naturally self cleaning, so it is definitely more hygienic if a male is circumcised at birth. Of coarse, good hygiene is important for everyone of both genders. By contrast to male circumcision, so called female &#8220;circumcision&#8221;-female genital mutilation- (which is actually not practised in most Muslim cultures, though male circumcision is) makes infection more likely, by interfering with the natural cleaning properties of the area. My aunt is a nurse who has personally assisted with numerous circs, and while it is painful for the infant, they do not remember it latter. Based on her expereance dealing with men who have poor hygiene at work who she has had to care for, she is pro circumcision, and had her own circumcised as well. </p>
<p>Finely, as far as sexual sensation goes, it has now indeed been shown that circumcision DOSE significantly reduce sensitivity for a male, but sexual functioning is not impaired at all, and among older men, studies actually show, all else being equal, circumcised men actually have LOWER rates of sexual dysfunction than those who are not. Reduced sensitivity in a male is not necessarily a bad thing at all.<br />
My mom had me circumcised at birth for hygienic reasons, and I am glad she did. (and no pain relief was ever used back then) I do not remember it, yes I have Sean a video of it being done without anesthetic, and it is horrible, even with pain relief it still hurts, as a truly effective dose is not safe for routine use in newborns. But I think it is well worth it in the long run. I have plenty of sensitively as well. </p>
<p>I believe circumcision is a decision that PARENTS have the right to make for their son, and if the parents do not agree, I believe the mother should have the sole right to decider what is best for her son. I believe in gender equality in general, but not on this issue, I just think there is a very strong gender distinction here, that is biologically based. Parents make permanent decisions for their kids all the time, and I do not feel that being circumcised at birth is any violation of a males rights at all. I do see it as being a violation of the rights of a WOMEN who just gave birth to a son, for her to be either pressured not to, or worse to be told she cannot have her son circumcised, or that she must have it done or given no choice and it&#8217;s just done, if that is not what she wants. I think it is ultimately HER decision, and nobody else has the right interfere with that.  I do not believe circumcision is wrong or harmful at all, as long as it is performed properly, and is actually beneficial in general for both the boy and especially any future female partners of his.</p>
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		<title>By: samual</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/17908#comment-47880</link>
		<dc:creator>samual</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 09:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In 2004, the newborn circ rate in the U.S. was 57.4 %    Actually, all the studies done and even the state data in the study that was the bases of this report indicate that a large minority, and in some states still a majority, of both asian and Hispanic boys born in the U.S, are circumcised. A lot of immigrants (even if not most) do adapt it as they aculturate to the U.S. And 40%+ of adult Latinos in the U.S. are U.S. born, most of them well actually acculturation and English speaking. Many are 3+ generation among Mexican americans, often descended from the large number of Mexican immigrants to the U.S. southwest from 1910-1928, who fled from the second Mexican revolution. 

Filipinos and south Koreans also both practise practice circumcision, (the latter do to U.S. influence) and it is actually common (though not the norm) among those who afford to pay for it in the larger cities in some parts of Latin America. I know this from sever all friends of mine who are from Mexico and central America who have told me so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In 2004, the newborn circ rate in the U.S. was 57.4 %    Actually, all the studies done and even the state data in the study that was the bases of this report indicate that a large minority, and in some states still a majority, of both asian and Hispanic boys born in the U.S, are circumcised. A lot of immigrants (even if not most) do adapt it as they aculturate to the U.S. And 40%+ of adult Latinos in the U.S. are U.S. born, most of them well actually acculturation and English speaking. Many are 3+ generation among Mexican americans, often descended from the large number of Mexican immigrants to the U.S. southwest from 1910-1928, who fled from the second Mexican revolution. </p>
<p>Filipinos and south Koreans also both practise practice circumcision, (the latter do to U.S. influence) and it is actually common (though not the norm) among those who afford to pay for it in the larger cities in some parts of Latin America. I know this from sever all friends of mine who are from Mexico and central America who have told me so.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/17908#comment-45898</link>
		<dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2007 13:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bloggernews.net/17908#comment-45898</guid>
		<description>I meant that 50% of the boys in the class are intact, and 50% are circ'd.  The girls all are intact, but I didn't take them into account!  (Just clarifying that I wasn't trying to be sneaky by suggesting a 50% circ rate, when in actuality it's 50-50 girls and boys I'm considering, with half the children intact, and half circ'd, but conveniently leaving out the fact that the "intact" percentage all were girls.)  I only meant the boys, and 50% of the male 3-year-olds in the class are intact.  (Leaving boys intact at birth is not an "immigration" issue around here, either.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I meant that 50% of the boys in the class are intact, and 50% are circ&#8217;d.  The girls all are intact, but I didn&#8217;t take them into account!  (Just clarifying that I wasn&#8217;t trying to be sneaky by suggesting a 50% circ rate, when in actuality it&#8217;s 50-50 girls and boys I&#8217;m considering, with half the children intact, and half circ&#8217;d, but conveniently leaving out the fact that the &#8220;intact&#8221; percentage all were girls.)  I only meant the boys, and 50% of the male 3-year-olds in the class are intact.  (Leaving boys intact at birth is not an &#8220;immigration&#8221; issue around here, either.)</p>
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		<title>By: Amy</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/17908#comment-45895</link>
		<dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2007 13:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bloggernews.net/17908#comment-45895</guid>
		<description>As far as the issue of kids naked at preschool....my child's preschool class is half intact, half circ'd.  How do I know?  They have a swim program and my child's class goes to the rec center every two weeks to swim for half an our.  It happens to be a day that we are not enrolled, but I'm free to take my child and join the class, as long as I stay in the water, too.  (And parents of kids who are enrolled on the swim day are free to go, too, just to help out in the water so more kids can be in at once.)  Anyway, they do shower off afterwards and so I know the circ status of the boys on swim days!  

Some of the kids are gaining toilet independence at that age and do use the potty, plus there are diaper changes in the classroom, but there's not a lot of exposure at that time.

The thing I have not experienced is any kind of "making fun" by children that age, especially about bodies.  There has been no comment about "differences," period.  The kids are pretty matter-of-fact, mostly just trying to deal with how much of their bodies they are willing to put under the shower stream (keeping faces dry is a concern for some of them) and I find it hard to imagine that a preschooler at age 3 could experience mocking peer pressure.  I know my child (who is three now) doesn't operate that way, and neither do any 3-year-old peers that I know.  At all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as the issue of kids naked at preschool&#8230;.my child&#8217;s preschool class is half intact, half circ&#8217;d.  How do I know?  They have a swim program and my child&#8217;s class goes to the rec center every two weeks to swim for half an our.  It happens to be a day that we are not enrolled, but I&#8217;m free to take my child and join the class, as long as I stay in the water, too.  (And parents of kids who are enrolled on the swim day are free to go, too, just to help out in the water so more kids can be in at once.)  Anyway, they do shower off afterwards and so I know the circ status of the boys on swim days!  </p>
<p>Some of the kids are gaining toilet independence at that age and do use the potty, plus there are diaper changes in the classroom, but there&#8217;s not a lot of exposure at that time.</p>
<p>The thing I have not experienced is any kind of &#8220;making fun&#8221; by children that age, especially about bodies.  There has been no comment about &#8220;differences,&#8221; period.  The kids are pretty matter-of-fact, mostly just trying to deal with how much of their bodies they are willing to put under the shower stream (keeping faces dry is a concern for some of them) and I find it hard to imagine that a preschooler at age 3 could experience mocking peer pressure.  I know my child (who is three now) doesn&#8217;t operate that way, and neither do any 3-year-old peers that I know.  At all.</p>
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		<title>By: carrie</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/17908#comment-45538</link>
		<dc:creator>carrie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 22:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bloggernews.net/17908#comment-45538</guid>
		<description>Also, by the way, many "board certified" physicians make mistakes about intact care because they havent read up on the literature. When your son was in the office, in 1985 and beyond, the AAP had the do not retract in their statement. Thus, your doctor was not doing the reccomended thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, by the way, many &#8220;board certified&#8221; physicians make mistakes about intact care because they havent read up on the literature. When your son was in the office, in 1985 and beyond, the AAP had the do not retract in their statement. Thus, your doctor was not doing the reccomended thing.</p>
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		<title>By: carrie</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/17908#comment-45537</link>
		<dc:creator>carrie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 22:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bloggernews.net/17908#comment-45537</guid>
		<description>While you have seen the Sex in the City episode, that can easily be countered with the three foreskin friendly episodes of Scrubs, where doctors talk pointedly about the atrocity of circumcision and stamp out a lot of the myths to parents and young men. In addition, only 50% of boys are being circumcised now; thus, this "making fun of" that you are suggesting will obviously not be much of an issue as our boys grow. Of ten boys in the so-called locker room argument, 5 will be intact. There is a 50/50 chance a woman in our generation will have an intact partner. Cutting of a function body part is just not the answer to teasing. Like my husband says "I will just teach him to look shocked and then say 'YOU are making fun of ME because YOU had a piece of your penis cut off?" And besides, if a woman doesn't want to be with my son because he has a foreskin, I will be GLAD to see the back of her. Who wants their son marrying someone that shallow?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While you have seen the Sex in the City episode, that can easily be countered with the three foreskin friendly episodes of Scrubs, where doctors talk pointedly about the atrocity of circumcision and stamp out a lot of the myths to parents and young men. In addition, only 50% of boys are being circumcised now; thus, this &#8220;making fun of&#8221; that you are suggesting will obviously not be much of an issue as our boys grow. Of ten boys in the so-called locker room argument, 5 will be intact. There is a 50/50 chance a woman in our generation will have an intact partner. Cutting of a function body part is just not the answer to teasing. Like my husband says &#8220;I will just teach him to look shocked and then say &#8216;YOU are making fun of ME because YOU had a piece of your penis cut off?&#8221; And besides, if a woman doesn&#8217;t want to be with my son because he has a foreskin, I will be GLAD to see the back of her. Who wants their son marrying someone that shallow?</p>
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		<title>By: Carol Bogart</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/17908#comment-45214</link>
		<dc:creator>Carol Bogart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 14:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bloggernews.net/17908#comment-45214</guid>
		<description>My son's pediatrician was board certified and, I'm certain, gave me the prevailing wisdom at the time. The comments here concerning forcible retraction of the foreskin make sense to me, though. Right or wrong, in America, say what you want about the aesthetics - the fact is women make unkind remarks about men who are not circumcised (perhaps you saw the episode of Sex in the City that focused on this subject). Little boys in preschool do use the bathroom, so the remark about "naked in preschool" was a bit off the mark. My son's dental work was done in a hospital after the caregiver who watched him while I worked persisted in putting him to bed with a bottle. He developed so many cavities in his baby teeth (a conidition I learned is called "bottle mouth") that he required general anesthetic because it took so long to fill them. His doctor told me problems in baby teeth can affect the permanent teeth. I feel sorry for what my son went through, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My son&#8217;s pediatrician was board certified and, I&#8217;m certain, gave me the prevailing wisdom at the time. The comments here concerning forcible retraction of the foreskin make sense to me, though. Right or wrong, in America, say what you want about the aesthetics - the fact is women make unkind remarks about men who are not circumcised (perhaps you saw the episode of Sex in the City that focused on this subject). Little boys in preschool do use the bathroom, so the remark about &#8220;naked in preschool&#8221; was a bit off the mark. My son&#8217;s dental work was done in a hospital after the caregiver who watched him while I worked persisted in putting him to bed with a bottle. He developed so many cavities in his baby teeth (a conidition I learned is called &#8220;bottle mouth&#8221;) that he required general anesthetic because it took so long to fill them. His doctor told me problems in baby teeth can affect the permanent teeth. I feel sorry for what my son went through, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob Kasza</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/17908#comment-44458</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacob Kasza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 14:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bloggernews.net/17908#comment-44458</guid>
		<description>This story smells fishy to me. He had dental work and you decided to have him circumcised while he was "out"?

Girls have 4 times higher incidents of UTIs and ((nothing)) gets cut off from them. The idea that boys should look like their fathers is ridiculous as girls don't compare the looks of their vaginas with their mothers. You're a case of clear American brainwashing done succesfully. I feel sorry for your son.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This story smells fishy to me. He had dental work and you decided to have him circumcised while he was &#8220;out&#8221;?</p>
<p>Girls have 4 times higher incidents of UTIs and ((nothing)) gets cut off from them. The idea that boys should look like their fathers is ridiculous as girls don&#8217;t compare the looks of their vaginas with their mothers. You&#8217;re a case of clear American brainwashing done succesfully. I feel sorry for your son.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/17908#comment-43734</link>
		<dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 16:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn't become a  mother until 2004 (I was 33), so obviously, I had a very different experience than your in the '80s.  I wanted to point out that, based on your account, it sounds like your son's infections and discomfort while intact as a toddler were the result of bad advice on the care of his penis.  From birth, the foreskin is fused to the glans (this how it protects the organ from infection and injury during the early years) and it is years later that it begins to separate on its own.  At some point, it becomes fully retractable, but at any point during that process, the boy himself should be the only one to push it back, as forcible retraction is painful and dangerous.  (This aspect is similar to the care of the circumcised penis when adhesions have started to form--some medical advice still recommends forcibly breaking the adhesions weekly or even with every diaper change/bath, a practice which subjects the boy to pain, the risk of infection, possible nerve damage, and more scar tissue than he'd already have after circumcision.  Left on their own, the adhesions...which are the remnants of the foreskin trying to heal and re-fuse themselves to the penis, adhering and protecting as they would have if left intact...should release just as the intact foreskin eventually will retract.  There is no reason to keep breaking them, any more than there is reason to continue forcibly retracting a foreskin, and basically re-creating open wounds.)

But, it's not surprising that many U.S. doctors, back when your son was born and currently, know little about proper care of the intact penis.  It's nature's default condition, but the "default" for many years in the U.S. has been surgical alteration.  The forcible retraction "for cleaning" that you did is common (but bad) advice.  Until a boy's foreskin is retractable, the foreskin should be left alone, completely.  If it has poop on it, wiping it down during a diaper change as you would a wipe off a finger is sufficient.  During a bath, it's enough to swish it around in the water.  Later, the boy can learn to retract himself and wash up just as a circumcised man does (or should) in the shower.

Anyway, I just wanted to point out that your son's problems with the foreskin sticking and bleeding sound directly related to the foreskin being retracted when still fully or partly fused, probably a result of someone's misunderstanding of what proper hygiene required.  But the experience you describe is not the norm or the inevitable result of leaving a child's penis intact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t become a  mother until 2004 (I was 33), so obviously, I had a very different experience than your in the &#8217;80s.  I wanted to point out that, based on your account, it sounds like your son&#8217;s infections and discomfort while intact as a toddler were the result of bad advice on the care of his penis.  From birth, the foreskin is fused to the glans (this how it protects the organ from infection and injury during the early years) and it is years later that it begins to separate on its own.  At some point, it becomes fully retractable, but at any point during that process, the boy himself should be the only one to push it back, as forcible retraction is painful and dangerous.  (This aspect is similar to the care of the circumcised penis when adhesions have started to form&#8211;some medical advice still recommends forcibly breaking the adhesions weekly or even with every diaper change/bath, a practice which subjects the boy to pain, the risk of infection, possible nerve damage, and more scar tissue than he&#8217;d already have after circumcision.  Left on their own, the adhesions&#8230;which are the remnants of the foreskin trying to heal and re-fuse themselves to the penis, adhering and protecting as they would have if left intact&#8230;should release just as the intact foreskin eventually will retract.  There is no reason to keep breaking them, any more than there is reason to continue forcibly retracting a foreskin, and basically re-creating open wounds.)</p>
<p>But, it&#8217;s not surprising that many U.S. doctors, back when your son was born and currently, know little about proper care of the intact penis.  It&#8217;s nature&#8217;s default condition, but the &#8220;default&#8221; for many years in the U.S. has been surgical alteration.  The forcible retraction &#8220;for cleaning&#8221; that you did is common (but bad) advice.  Until a boy&#8217;s foreskin is retractable, the foreskin should be left alone, completely.  If it has poop on it, wiping it down during a diaper change as you would a wipe off a finger is sufficient.  During a bath, it&#8217;s enough to swish it around in the water.  Later, the boy can learn to retract himself and wash up just as a circumcised man does (or should) in the shower.</p>
<p>Anyway, I just wanted to point out that your son&#8217;s problems with the foreskin sticking and bleeding sound directly related to the foreskin being retracted when still fully or partly fused, probably a result of someone&#8217;s misunderstanding of what proper hygiene required.  But the experience you describe is not the norm or the inevitable result of leaving a child&#8217;s penis intact.</p>
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		<title>By: Erin</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/17908#comment-43724</link>
		<dc:creator>Erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 15:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bloggernews.net/17908#comment-43724</guid>
		<description>Your experience is your experience and it is valid.   However, it seems that you are interpreting your experience as evidence for why routine infant circumcision should remain common among white Americans.   Perhaps, instead, you could consider your story an example of how your medical practitioners' ignorance of the intact penis led to your son's suffering and eventual circumcison.  In Europe, where people do not routinely circumcise their children, doctors and parents know that the proper care of a child's intact penis is to leave it alone.  That's right--it's not just Latin Americans and Asians who don't circumcise; European males are fully intact, too (exept the Jewish and Muslim Europeans, of course).

I am a middle-class white American living in central Ohio. My son is intact, as are the sons of several of my white middle-class friends, and none of our children have ever had any sort of infection. Since we know that we can avoid problems simply by leaving our children's private parts alone, we do not feel any obligation to perpetuate the custom of routine infant male circumcision. Some cultural traditions are worth preserving; for non-Jewish/non-Muslim Americans, this is just not one of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your experience is your experience and it is valid.   However, it seems that you are interpreting your experience as evidence for why routine infant circumcision should remain common among white Americans.   Perhaps, instead, you could consider your story an example of how your medical practitioners&#8217; ignorance of the intact penis led to your son&#8217;s suffering and eventual circumcison.  In Europe, where people do not routinely circumcise their children, doctors and parents know that the proper care of a child&#8217;s intact penis is to leave it alone.  That&#8217;s right&#8211;it&#8217;s not just Latin Americans and Asians who don&#8217;t circumcise; European males are fully intact, too (exept the Jewish and Muslim Europeans, of course).</p>
<p>I am a middle-class white American living in central Ohio. My son is intact, as are the sons of several of my white middle-class friends, and none of our children have ever had any sort of infection. Since we know that we can avoid problems simply by leaving our children&#8217;s private parts alone, we do not feel any obligation to perpetuate the custom of routine infant male circumcision. Some cultural traditions are worth preserving; for non-Jewish/non-Muslim Americans, this is just not one of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Erin</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/17908#comment-43697</link>
		<dc:creator>Erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 14:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bloggernews.net/17908#comment-43697</guid>
		<description>I'm really sorry about what happened to your little boy. No one should ever have pulled back his foreskin to clean underneath it. That causes painful tears and bleeding, as well as infection.  Unfortunately, that's what doctors used to tell parents to do, which is why so many boys who escaped the knife at birth ended up being circumcised later on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m really sorry about what happened to your little boy. No one should ever have pulled back his foreskin to clean underneath it. That causes painful tears and bleeding, as well as infection.  Unfortunately, that&#8217;s what doctors used to tell parents to do, which is why so many boys who escaped the knife at birth ended up being circumcised later on.</p>
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		<title>By: Maria</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/17908#comment-43696</link>
		<dc:creator>Maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 14:25:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bloggernews.net/17908#comment-43696</guid>
		<description>Yes, proper care would have eliminated all of those problems.  Also, please read up on the so-called studies done in Africa about HIV and circumcision.  They were extremely poorly carried out.  In fact - once the data looked the way they wanted it to they ended the study prematurely.  Thus any conclusion reported is incorrect.  Circumcision has NEVER been scientifically linked to any prevention or protection from HIV.  Awareness and education, however, have!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, proper care would have eliminated all of those problems.  Also, please read up on the so-called studies done in Africa about HIV and circumcision.  They were extremely poorly carried out.  In fact - once the data looked the way they wanted it to they ended the study prematurely.  Thus any conclusion reported is incorrect.  Circumcision has NEVER been scientifically linked to any prevention or protection from HIV.  Awareness and education, however, have!</p>
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		<title>By: sara</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/17908#comment-43590</link>
		<dc:creator>sara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 11:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bloggernews.net/17908#comment-43590</guid>
		<description>You should never retract the foreskin to clean under it!! not until the foreskin detaches from the head of the penis when the boy is older! The bleeding that occurred was because you were ripping the foreskin away from the head. Obviously infection can happen but also pain and scar tissue buildup. 

And kids at preschool were making fun of your son's penis? He was naked at preschool??? and 3 year olds were making fun of his penis??? I'm sorry, but that is a bit much to believe. And, if it was true, empowering your son about his body was the way to go, not cutting off pieces. Please visit the AAP or AMA site and read up on the correct care of an uncircumcised penis so that any future sons do not have to go through what your son did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should never retract the foreskin to clean under it!! not until the foreskin detaches from the head of the penis when the boy is older! The bleeding that occurred was because you were ripping the foreskin away from the head. Obviously infection can happen but also pain and scar tissue buildup. </p>
<p>And kids at preschool were making fun of your son&#8217;s penis? He was naked at preschool??? and 3 year olds were making fun of his penis??? I&#8217;m sorry, but that is a bit much to believe. And, if it was true, empowering your son about his body was the way to go, not cutting off pieces. Please visit the AAP or AMA site and read up on the correct care of an uncircumcised penis so that any future sons do not have to go through what your son did.</p>
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		<title>By: carrie</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/17908#comment-43581</link>
		<dc:creator>carrie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 10:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bloggernews.net/17908#comment-43581</guid>
		<description>Here is the AAP statement on the care of the uncircumcised penis: http://www.cirp.org/library/normal/aap/.  Please educate whoever gave you that horrible advice so that no other little boys suffer the same fate as your son.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is the AAP statement on the care of the uncircumcised penis: <a href="http://www.cirp.org/library/normal/aap/." rel="nofollow">http://www.cirp.org/library/normal/aap/.</a>  Please educate whoever gave you that horrible advice so that no other little boys suffer the same fate as your son.</p>
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		<title>By: carrie</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/17908#comment-43579</link>
		<dc:creator>carrie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 10:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bloggernews.net/17908#comment-43579</guid>
		<description>WOW You got some HORRIBLE advice. The AAP clearly states that the foreskin is to BE LEFT ALONE until it becomes retractable on its own. By pulling it back to clean it, you introduced infection as well as pain. The reason your son kept getting infections was constant bad medical advice. You can educate yourself on the correct care of the foreskin here: http://www.cirp.org/pages/parents/peron1/. And you might want to point out the AAP statement on the care of the uncircumcised penis to your doctor. That is just horrible, what happened to your son.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW You got some HORRIBLE advice. The AAP clearly states that the foreskin is to BE LEFT ALONE until it becomes retractable on its own. By pulling it back to clean it, you introduced infection as well as pain. The reason your son kept getting infections was constant bad medical advice. You can educate yourself on the correct care of the foreskin here: <a href="http://www.cirp.org/pages/parents/peron1/." rel="nofollow">http://www.cirp.org/pages/parents/peron1/.</a> And you might want to point out the AAP statement on the care of the uncircumcised penis to your doctor. That is just horrible, what happened to your son.</p>
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