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		<title>By: Sandra Hanks Benoiton</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/17775#comment-55704</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandra Hanks Benoiton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 06:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amyadoptee,
If you're indicating that anyone finding fault with rabid anti-adoption nuts is against open records, agencies hounding mothers and reform, you're showing a very limited understanding of the big picture, and a bias that may have more to do with your own blinders than anyone else's failure to understand.
While you've been writing letters supporting open access to birth records in the US, others have been doing this AND supporting orphaned children around the world, establishing programs that allow mothers to feed themselves and their children, getting antiretrovirals to rural populations so mothers can live long enough to take care of their children, building houses for entire families in developing countries, founding and funding schools and nutrition programs, and on and on and on.
For many people, the agenda is much more than a tiny aperture focused only on the small percentage of American adoptees who may not be pleased with their fate or the birth mothers who regret decisions they made in the past.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amyadoptee,<br />
If you&#8217;re indicating that anyone finding fault with rabid anti-adoption nuts is against open records, agencies hounding mothers and reform, you&#8217;re showing a very limited understanding of the big picture, and a bias that may have more to do with your own blinders than anyone else&#8217;s failure to understand.<br />
While you&#8217;ve been writing letters supporting open access to birth records in the US, others have been doing this AND supporting orphaned children around the world, establishing programs that allow mothers to feed themselves and their children, getting antiretrovirals to rural populations so mothers can live long enough to take care of their children, building houses for entire families in developing countries, founding and funding schools and nutrition programs, and on and on and on.<br />
For many people, the agenda is much more than a tiny aperture focused only on the small percentage of American adoptees who may not be pleased with their fate or the birth mothers who regret decisions they made in the past.</p>
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		<title>By: Amyadoptee</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/17775#comment-55613</link>
		<dc:creator>Amyadoptee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 02:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bloggernews.net/17775#comment-55613</guid>
		<description>What have I done?  I have written many a letter to both legislators in Texas, Indiana, and for that matter many other states.  I support open adoptee access.  I am tired of hearing horror stories about adoption agencies and attorneys running over the rights of natural parents. I do stand up on those accounts and speak my mind.  I would not want someone coming in and telling me that I am not a good parent because I am poor.  What this is about is your attack on Mirah Riben.   You attack her for no valid reason.  You use names against her.  She has been fighting this battle for 30 years.  I want to change the way adoption is practiced today.  I want it to be ethical for all living adoption.  I want a natural mother to understand what she is losing out on.  I want an adoptive parent to acknowledge the loss that their child has faced.  I want an adoptee to have access to the very records that accurately records his/her birth.  Whether they search or not doesn't matter.  I don't want to another adoptee to grow wondering why.  I want an industry that goes unregulated.  Heck pet adoption is more regulated than human adoption. I want a mother to have the right to raise her own child.  Every natural mother that I have spoken with wants that choice.  I don't want an adoption agency to hound my daughter for her child.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What have I done?  I have written many a letter to both legislators in Texas, Indiana, and for that matter many other states.  I support open adoptee access.  I am tired of hearing horror stories about adoption agencies and attorneys running over the rights of natural parents. I do stand up on those accounts and speak my mind.  I would not want someone coming in and telling me that I am not a good parent because I am poor.  What this is about is your attack on Mirah Riben.   You attack her for no valid reason.  You use names against her.  She has been fighting this battle for 30 years.  I want to change the way adoption is practiced today.  I want it to be ethical for all living adoption.  I want a natural mother to understand what she is losing out on.  I want an adoptive parent to acknowledge the loss that their child has faced.  I want an adoptee to have access to the very records that accurately records his/her birth.  Whether they search or not doesn&#8217;t matter.  I don&#8217;t want to another adoptee to grow wondering why.  I want an industry that goes unregulated.  Heck pet adoption is more regulated than human adoption. I want a mother to have the right to raise her own child.  Every natural mother that I have spoken with wants that choice.  I don&#8217;t want an adoption agency to hound my daughter for her child.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Case</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/17775#comment-45859</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Case</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2007 11:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bloggernews.net/17775#comment-45859</guid>
		<description>The thing about adoption.com is its dictator-like rules.  I understand it is a privately held concern - a for-profit privately held concern.  As a user you abide by their guidelines if you wish to post.  

Its founder, Nathan Gwillian is also a fundamentalist Christian.  That's all fine and dandy, yet not everybody paints adoption with the same brush.  

I don't like the fact one cannot discuss agencies openly.  "Take it to private email". Okay, take it to private email, leaving many PAPs in no man's land if they're getting the hard sell from certain "adoption professionals".  Adoption professionals who advertise heavily on the site itself.  

Many of those questionable agencies pay to advertise on adoption.com.  They have the right to do that.  Those of us who had bad experiences with these agencies have to get the word out about it.  But you can't do that on adopiton.com.

I for one read Mirah's book.  At least she was willing to talk about things so many AParents, PAPs and "adoption professionals" push under the rug.  Especially corruption in foreign adoptions.  BTDT have the website:

http://www.bewareofbbas.org</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing about adoption.com is its dictator-like rules.  I understand it is a privately held concern - a for-profit privately held concern.  As a user you abide by their guidelines if you wish to post.  </p>
<p>Its founder, Nathan Gwillian is also a fundamentalist Christian.  That&#8217;s all fine and dandy, yet not everybody paints adoption with the same brush.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t like the fact one cannot discuss agencies openly.  &#8220;Take it to private email&#8221;. Okay, take it to private email, leaving many PAPs in no man&#8217;s land if they&#8217;re getting the hard sell from certain &#8220;adoption professionals&#8221;.  Adoption professionals who advertise heavily on the site itself.  </p>
<p>Many of those questionable agencies pay to advertise on adoption.com.  They have the right to do that.  Those of us who had bad experiences with these agencies have to get the word out about it.  But you can&#8217;t do that on adopiton.com.</p>
<p>I for one read Mirah&#8217;s book.  At least she was willing to talk about things so many AParents, PAPs and &#8220;adoption professionals&#8221; push under the rug.  Especially corruption in foreign adoptions.  BTDT have the website:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bewareofbbas.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.bewareofbbas.org</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sandra Hanks Benoiton</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/17775#comment-41287</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandra Hanks Benoiton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2007 22:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bloggernews.net/17775#comment-41287</guid>
		<description>Ann Wilmer,
It's interesting that when it serves your purpose Adoption.com is exactly the 'appropriate place for such a forum', but when it doesn't it's a hotbed of 'yellow journalisam'.
Here's one of a few places you obviously thought Adoption.com the appropriate place -- http://birthfamily-search.adoptionblogs.com/index.php/weblogs/a-letter-to-karen-and-jan-part-2 -- since it was where you chose submit your writing. Perhaps it's only inappropriate when you disagree with the content?
I agree that the rhetoric has escalated, and would like to point out that the reason it has 'gone past the level of a healthy, viable discussion' has nothing to do with reform, as we are all in favor of that, but everything to do with blatant fraud on the part of one strident 'reform' supporter with 'abolish' at the heart of her agenda ... one well-respected in the anti-adoption community for reasons that are difficult to ascertain ... who passed herself off as the biggest fan of her own anti-adoption work, but was caught in the act. With dishonest and dishonorable tatics very common in the anit-adoption movement, it is vital those working to protect the option of adoption for the world's children pull back the ugly cover of illusion and show what really lives at the center of the arguments against.
Taking the posture that those touting 'reform' from a clamorous cacaphony somehow corner the market on noticing faults in adoption and working toward the betterment of the entire institution is a 'smoke and mirrors' diversionary tactic that is no longer working.
Searching for truth and exposing hidden agendas is what journalism is all about, and Adoption.com does that. If accusations of "advertising" are supposed to somehow convey a compromising of integrity, you must also be suggesting the New York Times, Washington Post, and every other news organization in print or broadcast are suspect in their professionalism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ann Wilmer,<br />
It&#8217;s interesting that when it serves your purpose Adoption.com is exactly the &#8216;appropriate place for such a forum&#8217;, but when it doesn&#8217;t it&#8217;s a hotbed of &#8216;yellow journalisam&#8217;.<br />
Here&#8217;s one of a few places you obviously thought Adoption.com the appropriate place &#8212; <a href="http://birthfamily-search.adoptionblogs.com/index.php/weblogs/a-letter-to-karen-and-jan-part-2" rel="nofollow">http://birthfamily-search.adoptionblogs.com/index.php/weblogs/a-letter-to-karen-and-jan-part-2</a> &#8212; since it was where you chose submit your writing. Perhaps it&#8217;s only inappropriate when you disagree with the content?<br />
I agree that the rhetoric has escalated, and would like to point out that the reason it has &#8216;gone past the level of a healthy, viable discussion&#8217; has nothing to do with reform, as we are all in favor of that, but everything to do with blatant fraud on the part of one strident &#8216;reform&#8217; supporter with &#8216;abolish&#8217; at the heart of her agenda &#8230; one well-respected in the anti-adoption community for reasons that are difficult to ascertain &#8230; who passed herself off as the biggest fan of her own anti-adoption work, but was caught in the act. With dishonest and dishonorable tatics very common in the anit-adoption movement, it is vital those working to protect the option of adoption for the world&#8217;s children pull back the ugly cover of illusion and show what really lives at the center of the arguments against.<br />
Taking the posture that those touting &#8216;reform&#8217; from a clamorous cacaphony somehow corner the market on noticing faults in adoption and working toward the betterment of the entire institution is a &#8217;smoke and mirrors&#8217; diversionary tactic that is no longer working.<br />
Searching for truth and exposing hidden agendas is what journalism is all about, and Adoption.com does that. If accusations of &#8220;advertising&#8221; are supposed to somehow convey a compromising of integrity, you must also be suggesting the New York Times, Washington Post, and every other news organization in print or broadcast are suspect in their professionalism.</p>
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		<title>By: Ann Wilmer</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/17775#comment-41179</link>
		<dc:creator>Ann Wilmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2007 19:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bloggernews.net/17775#comment-41179</guid>
		<description>I've been watching -- and bemoaning -- this bru-ha-ha from the sidelines. The rhetoric has escalated until it has gone past the level of a healthy, viable discussion to one that attempts to control the discussion and silence those who disagree. One of the chief instigators of the conflict is NOT a suitable moderator for a forum that claims to put forth the truth and balanced information. In fact, Adoption.com, a for-profit enterprise, whose income is derived from the adoption industry, is NOT the appropriate place for such a forum. 

A fresh start to this discussion is needed. One where misleading statements, name calling and outright lies are not a part of it. But opening another forum under the same umbrella where these negative tactics have prevailed for over a week now is not the way to achieve that. This already appears to be one where everytime someone who disagrees makes a point, the moderator is going to jump in and have the last word. Since every hit on Adoption.com transfers dollars from their advertisers to their coffers, it's a perfectly understandable tactic in the tradition of yellow journalism.

Most of us who seek to reform adoption believe it is a viable option, although not always the best one. Adoption is certainly  fraught with problems as practiced in the USA and elsewhere. It is inflamatory to paint all reform activists with the same broad brush. The FIRST leaders of the reform movement are adult adoptees, most of whom had near idyllic childhoods, but saw the need for reform. From my earliest memories, many adoption professionals were also eager for reform; the Child Welfare League of America has been involved in seeking reform of the adoption industry as long as I can recall. Many adoptive parents supported their grown children's efforts, but more recently, the adoptive parents of minor children have added their voices to those calling for change. Until about a decade ago, most of the birth parents I knew were mothers involved in search &#38; reunion efforts; that has changed as more and more birth fathers have joined us -- and birth parents long ago became advocates of reform. There are fringe elements in the reform community who would abolish adoption just as there are fringe elements in the adoption community who style themselves as "pro-adoption" and anyone who disagrees with the practices they endorse as "anti-adoption." 

The element of the adoption community that is most dangerous is the element who profits from it. Any journalist worth his/her salt can tell you, when you want to know what's wrong with something, you just follow the money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been watching &#8212; and bemoaning &#8212; this bru-ha-ha from the sidelines. The rhetoric has escalated until it has gone past the level of a healthy, viable discussion to one that attempts to control the discussion and silence those who disagree. One of the chief instigators of the conflict is NOT a suitable moderator for a forum that claims to put forth the truth and balanced information. In fact, Adoption.com, a for-profit enterprise, whose income is derived from the adoption industry, is NOT the appropriate place for such a forum. </p>
<p>A fresh start to this discussion is needed. One where misleading statements, name calling and outright lies are not a part of it. But opening another forum under the same umbrella where these negative tactics have prevailed for over a week now is not the way to achieve that. This already appears to be one where everytime someone who disagrees makes a point, the moderator is going to jump in and have the last word. Since every hit on Adoption.com transfers dollars from their advertisers to their coffers, it&#8217;s a perfectly understandable tactic in the tradition of yellow journalism.</p>
<p>Most of us who seek to reform adoption believe it is a viable option, although not always the best one. Adoption is certainly  fraught with problems as practiced in the USA and elsewhere. It is inflamatory to paint all reform activists with the same broad brush. The FIRST leaders of the reform movement are adult adoptees, most of whom had near idyllic childhoods, but saw the need for reform. From my earliest memories, many adoption professionals were also eager for reform; the Child Welfare League of America has been involved in seeking reform of the adoption industry as long as I can recall. Many adoptive parents supported their grown children&#8217;s efforts, but more recently, the adoptive parents of minor children have added their voices to those calling for change. Until about a decade ago, most of the birth parents I knew were mothers involved in search &amp; reunion efforts; that has changed as more and more birth fathers have joined us &#8212; and birth parents long ago became advocates of reform. There are fringe elements in the reform community who would abolish adoption just as there are fringe elements in the adoption community who style themselves as &#8220;pro-adoption&#8221; and anyone who disagrees with the practices they endorse as &#8220;anti-adoption.&#8221; </p>
<p>The element of the adoption community that is most dangerous is the element who profits from it. Any journalist worth his/her salt can tell you, when you want to know what&#8217;s wrong with something, you just follow the money.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandra Hanks Benoiton</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/17775#comment-41108</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandra Hanks Benoiton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2007 15:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bloggernews.net/17775#comment-41108</guid>
		<description>Amyadopt,

So much like all in the anti-adoption brigade who attack everyone, put out mile after mile of misinformation and plop the word "reform" where "abolish" is what is actually meant, your entire "I know you are, but what am I?" playground argument is tedious and brainless. 

What exactly are you doing to reform adoption? 

The jig is up, and no one but the miseryt-loves-company-gang is buying it any longer. The tactics aren't working, no matter how underhanded and fraudulent. Adoptive parents are done with pussyfooting around and trying to make nice with those who would so happily sacrifice the world's children on the alter of personal regrets and sour grapes hidden in a fog called 'reform'.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amyadopt,</p>
<p>So much like all in the anti-adoption brigade who attack everyone, put out mile after mile of misinformation and plop the word &#8220;reform&#8221; where &#8220;abolish&#8221; is what is actually meant, your entire &#8220;I know you are, but what am I?&#8221; playground argument is tedious and brainless. </p>
<p>What exactly are you doing to reform adoption? </p>
<p>The jig is up, and no one but the miseryt-loves-company-gang is buying it any longer. The tactics aren&#8217;t working, no matter how underhanded and fraudulent. Adoptive parents are done with pussyfooting around and trying to make nice with those who would so happily sacrifice the world&#8217;s children on the alter of personal regrets and sour grapes hidden in a fog called &#8216;reform&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy Reyes</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/17775#comment-41022</link>
		<dc:creator>Nancy Reyes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2007 09:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bloggernews.net/17775#comment-41022</guid>
		<description>The previous commenter talks about "reforming adoption" and calls names.

The original article has a lot of truth, but doesn't give enough details.
There have been cases of baby farming in some countries, but the dirty little secret is that often this is exaggerated by activists who feel guilty about exporting their children. However, given the millions of street kids in those same countries, I am not horrified at their horror stories. 

I adopted from Colombia, where there are strict laws. First the children are placed with family, then with locals, then placed overseas. As a single mom, I was at the bottom of the list. I like boys, so asked for and got two older siblings who couldn't be placed elsewhere (four of their siblings were placed with other family members or friends, but no one wants boys over age eight).

However, there are also a lot of anti adoption people in the US who oppose adoption because they had an abortion and have a psychological need to smear those who sacrifice to carry a child to term and allow someone else to raise them.
As for adoptees, most don't care, but many have a pain inside that feels their mother hated them, and they too need healing.

My oldest needed to work out anger at his mother's death and anger that no one wanted him and he lived on the street for two years. He still has anger at me and the world, but would his anger be less if he had gone back to the street at age 16?
 
Adoption is not about rich Hollywood types or yuppies making a social statement. It is about finding a home for a child. The best home is a child's own family (which is why I condemned Madonna's adoption of a boy whose mom died, and family couldn't afford formula so put him in an orphanage. He had family...she could have sent them twenty dollars a month and kept the family together).

Family ties are best, placement in extended family is next best. Placement in one's own culture and country is next best.
But if the choice is a crowded orphanage, or living on the street, or going from one foster home to another, then please consider adoption.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The previous commenter talks about &#8220;reforming adoption&#8221; and calls names.</p>
<p>The original article has a lot of truth, but doesn&#8217;t give enough details.<br />
There have been cases of baby farming in some countries, but the dirty little secret is that often this is exaggerated by activists who feel guilty about exporting their children. However, given the millions of street kids in those same countries, I am not horrified at their horror stories. </p>
<p>I adopted from Colombia, where there are strict laws. First the children are placed with family, then with locals, then placed overseas. As a single mom, I was at the bottom of the list. I like boys, so asked for and got two older siblings who couldn&#8217;t be placed elsewhere (four of their siblings were placed with other family members or friends, but no one wants boys over age eight).</p>
<p>However, there are also a lot of anti adoption people in the US who oppose adoption because they had an abortion and have a psychological need to smear those who sacrifice to carry a child to term and allow someone else to raise them.<br />
As for adoptees, most don&#8217;t care, but many have a pain inside that feels their mother hated them, and they too need healing.</p>
<p>My oldest needed to work out anger at his mother&#8217;s death and anger that no one wanted him and he lived on the street for two years. He still has anger at me and the world, but would his anger be less if he had gone back to the street at age 16?</p>
<p>Adoption is not about rich Hollywood types or yuppies making a social statement. It is about finding a home for a child. The best home is a child&#8217;s own family (which is why I condemned Madonna&#8217;s adoption of a boy whose mom died, and family couldn&#8217;t afford formula so put him in an orphanage. He had family&#8230;she could have sent them twenty dollars a month and kept the family together).</p>
<p>Family ties are best, placement in extended family is next best. Placement in one&#8217;s own culture and country is next best.<br />
But if the choice is a crowded orphanage, or living on the street, or going from one foster home to another, then please consider adoption.</p>
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		<title>By: Amyadoptee</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/17775#comment-40716</link>
		<dc:creator>Amyadoptee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 20:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bloggernews.net/17775#comment-40716</guid>
		<description>Oh this is so interesting.   You can attack everyone and put out disinformation.  We who are reforming adoption are putting out disinformation and lies.  Talk about being a hypocrite</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh this is so interesting.   You can attack everyone and put out disinformation.  We who are reforming adoption are putting out disinformation and lies.  Talk about being a hypocrite</p>
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