He is a good friend of mine who has some illness in the brain where if anything makes his brain chemically imbalanced (e.g. drinking) he gets very ill for 1-2 weeks. This also happened when he tried I-Doser.

From what I’ve seen in the research I have done, it seems pretty safe, however, if you do have problems with the chemical balance I don’t think it would be a good idea to try.

It is still a very new thing and not much research has been put into it. If you do wanna try it and can’t wait til a little more light has been cast on it, then read some reviews or something to try and be as safe as possible.

Great write up - I’m doing my own review of i-Doser starting off with the Gates of Hades. Whats the worst that can happen??

You can read more at http://www.memyselfandidoser.com

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overall i think it works…but it varies from individuals

real pot doesn’t get me high, it gives me cotton mouth and the “warm” feeling of taking a shot of really cheep whiskey

but the i-doser pot did work

funny right? and don’t go saying i must have smoked cheap shit cause it was deeeeeeeeppp purple and smelled amazing - but didn’t work

to get i-doser to work:

it helps if your mind is easily altered, if normal drugs hit you harder than most people, i-doser will probably work well

meditation helps. ALOT

if you try it thinking it won’t work . . it just won’t work for you.

power of the mind over the body, you can easily reject the beats, just as you can accept them.

let yourself drift away

With that in mind, you might have to not only try different ones, but try multiple times. If it doesn’t work, try the next day. Keep trying, eventually you’ll feel something. Just lay down in bed with your eyes closed and some good earphones, and relax.

But I have got it to work. I was listening to TripQH and I started having VERY strange and interesting body sensations. My head felt like it was sinking into the pillow and I felt this “zooming” sensation, like I was rushing very quickly down a river and approaching a waterfall.

It was very bizarre and a bit freaky, but really interesting. It’s tricky to get Idoser to work, but if you can, you’re set for some drug-free experiences.

P.S., I torrented it.

But tempering with brainwaves can induce certain states of the brain, that is long proven, and the brain itself is the best drugs factory there is, so I certainly believe that it could be possible.

PLACEBO………………………

Just like religion ..

Your telling us to not drive after listening to the alcohol track? All respectability has gone out the door … You gotta be sh***in me

I don’t think I’m going to use I-Doser much. :\

So, I guess it worked.

How can someone tell you “I cannot tell you if I-Doser works or not…” and 2 sentences later tell you: “The high you get from binaural beats is both undetectable, and as strong as the real thing…”

Let me tell you this: the high you get from these wanna-be drugs is a strong as you can convince yourself they are…

I lay down, covered my eyes, and around halfway in I started noticing small effects, feeling a bit weird, but it felt more like I was about to fall asleep than anything.

I found gates of hades to be very relaxing. If you want to experience real delusions try 1200 nitrous chargers in a weekend (although there’s a good chance you’ll have tinnitus, permanent brain damage, and/or death, but then if you’re trying to replicate hell in your mind, what do you care?).

And meditation is a type of trance, so if you know the method of self-hypnosis, use it instead of meditation, trust me on that. However, meditation as a whole reached greater heights of relaxation…

The concept is very simple, the scientific stuff is all in the frequencies. The simple concept is that it creates an imbalance in the brain’s input. If you want to trip out on nothing, concentrate on particular sounds, yet concentrate on a different input (such as z touch to associate with that sound), of course you need to know how to do it. I always say I trip on life… because I do, but I’ve discovered how to do it. This is just scientists giving you a “scientific” way of doing it.

If you want to trip out by yourself, just create two different sensory inputs that conflict with each other, that’s what will make you ‘trip’ out more than this. And as said above, the placebo effect is a large part of the effect.

I was informed of this recently by a holistic practitioner who specialised in breathwork to try these as he claimed they would get me into a state of deep meditation which would otherwise take many years. If you do a little research you will find there is solid evidence to back this claim up - they have done brain scans of monks who can get into deep states and found this technology simulates the same brainwaves as them.

I have used Holosync and to be frank when I first used it I was stoned and boy did I achieve an extremely deep state of relaxation! Amazing! On not being stoned I am not able to achieve as deep but I can get into something much lighter and also I am left with a ringing in my ears which from having done Autogenic Training and experiencing this in an autogenic state I associate this same ringing with being in a deep meditative state.

I do tend to smoke alot of weed and seriously, Autogenic Training provided me with the process of achieving this state WITHOUT smoking! I was seriously shocked by this but it hasn’t stopped me smoking lol

I believe if you are not serious, have no patience, are not experienced in being relaxed or knowing what a relaxed state is and are just looking for a quick high - which are going to be the majority of people lets face it, this will not work for you and you will just claim its rubbish.

These things DO work if you have the patience and you research them or go to a qualified practitioner from who you can learn to identify the states properly, although if you are intelligent & experience enough in meditation you can do this yourself.

I do have the I-Doser program but have only tried it once on the E program and to be honest I can guarantee the buzz is NOT going to be comparable to dropping on on a night out lol so don’t expect miracles, although it didn’t work for me it doesn’t mean it’s due for the trash just yet, I will try the other ones out and make a more informed decision in the future.

Good luck!

NOTE: You need some form of noise canceling headphones to get a real effect. Any in-ear or ones that fully cover your ear. (get as close to 10-2100hz as you can get)

I use these only 15.99 at my local Meijer and they work for me. You DO NOT need $200 headphone that idoser recommends!

http://www.meijer.com/catalog/product.jsp?productId=117995&parentCategoryId=122&categoryId=128&subCategoryId=352

Ordinary: works the first time
Susceptible: takes more effort and more tries and believing it will work.
Immune: doesn’t work at all after many tries with higher doses like lsd or pyote

TIPS: Lie in a bed or reclining chair. Eyes closed. Clear head. No distractions. And try to fall asleep but don’t fully fall asleep (unless doing Lucid Dream)

If it dosn’t work the first time. Alternate between acid, pyote, lsd, bufo toad. each for about 10 minutes, then opening your eyes and looking at the tv, preferably something like the background to a videogame (real or on youtube) like rockband or super smash bros or some kind of tech-tipy background. Do this till you see some sort of distortion.

If listening to sounds caused brain damage, shit like Lil Wayne would be scheduled right next to heroine and dog shit.

In my experiance with I-Doser, it is all hype and the placebo effect is what really works. I know this because I tried other programs that use binaural beats (HoloSync) and they work, but they don’t claim to get you high - only to induce alpha, theta, etc, states. this is kind of what I-Doser does, just no where near as well. Someone was just clever enough to market these brain-states as a possible legal alternative to drugs (and it worked to some degree obviously). However, if you really need the drug feeling - you aren’t going to get it from I-Doser, sorry. What you will get is some annoying sound samples, that barely teeter on the brink of binaural beats which occasionally impart the effect of partially altered brain states. Brain damage not included.

“I-Doser would work work better if it were treated as more of a meditation style, making sure that the user knows that there will be a large amount of effort exerted on his or her own part mentally. The entire dose does not depend so much on the sound being played, as it does the user’s own ability to react to the sound. Meditation is something that requires practice, and so is I-Doser.”

Binaural Beats — It’s been scientifically proven that binaural beats can stabilize your brain into desired frequencies, which may have effects ranging from drowsiness/relaxation (low frequencies) to excitement/sped up thinking (high frequencies)

Placebo — It’s also scientifically shown that if you really truly believe is happening to your body, it WILL actually happen to a certain extent.

Drugs (and alcohol is a drug, make no mistake) have very complex chemical interactions with your brain. Arguably binaural beats help release specific hormones and whatnot, that’s it. But there is no way that these “dosages” will actually make you feel the effect of the drugs to any extend beyond convincing yourself you’re high, or beyond what you could do if you were highly trained in meditation. As long as you are not introducing outside chemicals into your nervous system, you’re not really “high”. And anyone who’s had a solid dose of LSD can vouch tripping is a little different from simply feeling “tripped out”, which is the best these doses can do.

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It took me the better part of 3 months listening to these before I started to figure out how to get them to work.

It does take practice.

You have to sort of shut your brain off - conscious-wise. You know that place in between dreaming and awake? You need to get as close to there as possible, without going all the way. You’ll be close enough to dreaming that you won’t have the inhibitions anxious for this to work. You’ll just hear it and go with the flow.

Before anyone tries it, make sure you aren’t using mp3s that someone ripped. WAV files are fine, as they don’t use the quality - the DRG files are just WAV files with an encryption - but mp3s are compressed and the average person wouldn’t know how to do it right.

I have the best results with Nitrous. After a few minutes, the muscles in my thighs and arms start twitching, then I lose the sensation of things underneath me, and get the most awesome cold-tingling over my skin. Very nice.

The ecstasy also works nicely;)

after about 5 minutes i started laughing

i laughed and laughed till tears were running down my face

i meditate often, and so it was easy for my brain to synchronize the beats.

i’m too scared to try any hard-core ones, so i’ll stick to the happy ones

“This can lead to chemical unbalance in your brain so it’s definitely not recommended for anyone especially with family history of mental illness.”

Thats not true at all, at least as far as facts are concerned. There is little proof either way on this debate, and the little evidence we have actually points to Binaural Beats being safe.

I’m not sure whether it’s worth spending money on though. In most cases, you’re better off just buying some marijuanna.

“It is strongly recommended that you try the sample tracks before you purchase any of the drug tracks because these do not work for everyone. I-Doser states that there are three classes of people: Susceptible to Binaural Beats, Originally Unsusceptible to Binaural Beats, and Immune to Binaural Beats.”

Dipshit, you must be “Immune” or whatever. Learn to read.

I myself have never tried it, but stuff on youtube pretty much proves it works by the way some people behave while on it.

Of course it’s not going to work for everyone, in the same way not everybody can meditate. However, if you follow the sites directions and set the mood, so to speak, and not sit at your computer watching the monitor, you’re more likely to have a more concentrated effect.

I was just wondering when drug enforcement became about people getting high, rather than about the negative effects they can have on your body. I though that is why we have the “class system” set up for drug enforcement.