(they drove her to) sorry for the typo

Great article, Jan, thank you. And thank you for staying the course and enduring all that you do to keep Haleigh’s name in the public and also give us a place to talk. As Biohazzard said, you have integrity and grace. Rare and priceless qualities.

Thank you, Jan! It is a hard task to keep Haleigh’s name in the news when there are no new developments that are being made public by LE. It’s very clear that you are a caring person and I feel that you have always been more than fair.

This does not necessarily mean that the case isn’t moving forward, but it tries the patience of those who want so much for the case to be solved and this child brought home. The passion and frustration felt by everyone who has been touched by this beautiful child results in an excess of emotion which sometimes causes people to be oversensitive and to lash out. I don’t condone bad behavior, but some of it is based on caring. Unfortunately, a few people jump on the bandwagon for personal gain.

You have been doing the right thing by writing your observations and monitoring comments to ensure they don’t go too far. I hope you continue! As hard as it might be, it’s best to totally ignore jealous people who try to attack you.

Let’s hope there is progress being made in the case and that the pressure of publicity causes someone to talk. It may take time, but we must keep up the faith!

Yes, Jan, WHERE IS HALEIGH CUMMINGS???

Afer all this time, we have no clue at all. With the many, many different stories that those involved with case have said…..nothing is to be believed.
The players are in the clink, for drug buying, and none of their stories gel.
They were too interested in SELF, to have worried or cared enough about Haleigh to have even searched for her when she went missing.

While the weeks passed into months, and the months into years…..we still have no clue as to where this child is. Is she alive or is she dead?

Only God knows at this point.

Does anybody have any ideas as to why Tommy is able to get another court date Oct.4 and Misty’s sentence has been moved up? This doesn’t make sense to me.I know so many of you are legal savy and know how these things work. Thanks Jan for all you do to keep Haleigh’s case from being forgotton.

Sorry I meant Misty’s court date has been moved back not up.

ITA with the thanks and sentiments for you Jan. And for Simon as well. I don’t post too much, but I do read quite often…like every day…and every night…and some lunch times…and sometimes before breakfast…and some times all day. I, too, am so interested in keeping HaLeigh’s name out there.

Jan, I’m happy with you and Simon just the way you are. And if we ever get to meet in person… can I walk through your hair barefooted?! I love it! LOL! Thanks again.

Granny23- Is Lisa back in Jail?

As usual, Jan..your writing, thoughts and feeling come straight from your heart! I know that you will never give up on HaLeigh and other missing children!!! Nor will I and many others who come here to read.

You’re the best, Jan!!

Very nice article, Jan, well done.

May this beautiful little girl never be lost in the shuffle.

Where is Haleigh!

Thank you Jan.

This is all so sad, so many lives are in a mess and there is a little girl who should be home right now getting ready for Labor Day picnics and playing. No one should be lying about where she is or what happened to her.
Someone knows and they know they should do the right thing but will they? Will they ever? jmo

Alex, I believe Lisa was on probation for 3 different charges, but I’m not sure. I tried to pull up her court docs but either they are gone or I’m missing them.

Oh! Thank you

Alex, the 940.06 is the Florida statute number or whatever they call it, for probation violation.

LISA CARMEN CROSLIN
PALATKA, FL
Booking Date & Time: 9/3/2010 2:00:00 PM – Booking#: 10-03659
Release Date & Time:
DOB: 9/10/1969 – RACE: W – SEX: F

Charges Misd/Felony Degree Bond Bond Posted
948.06 PROB VIOLATION N N $1,504.00
948.06 PROB VIOLATION N N $1,504.00
948.06 PROB VIOLATION N N $1,504.00
$4,512.00

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=762681&IMG=59601

Jan,I have never questioned how much you and Simon care.I hear it in your voice on the radio and in your articles.I just get upset at all the snide remarks and innuendos to people by some others.I’m sorry about sitting here and finally blowing a gasket at the way some talk to others.I try to go away and come back but it is usually still going on.Again, this is NOT YOUR FAULT.You both are terrific.I promise to try to do better,or go away.

Ok I checked warrants and there was a warrant issued for Lisa for violation of probation but it doesn’t show the date it was issued.

Since there seemed to be such urgency in raising her “fine” money, my guess would be a warrant was issued because she had not paid her fines.

You’re welcome Alex.

Oh I am as well vaquera, sooooo much I want to say BUT I will just say this

WHERE’S HALEIGH

Ginaj- ita

Just caught up with all the comments. Lisa Croslin arrested again!? She needs to be in a inpatient rehab. Why can they not see this?

I just have such a hard time knowing how I truly feel about her and this entire groups troubles. Is it compassion one minute and then disgust and anger the next. Then it starts all over again LOL.

Thanks for the lovely article, Jan.

I told you good overcomes evil

TY fOR THE INFO ON THE FLIER. Hope more get posted.jmo

I guess she’s being bailed out as we speak…unbelievable.

Why waste the money she has food and a cot. She is safe where she is at. jmo

Okay gotta ask, if you violate probation and get arrested do you have to go to court once again? And what happens then if you are found guilty? Do you get sentenced to serve the remainder of your sentence? And who ever posted her bond can kiss that money good bye unless they sit on her so she doesnt get into trouble again. jmo
This is truely sad that she cant stay out of trouble, she really needs rehab.

That is what I am finding as well tobias. I guess I’ll have to get them the old fashioned way.

Good day Jan,Simon,an peeps.

Wonderful artical Jan,This is what its all about.Trying to keep HaLieghs name in the forfront.She is the victim.Whether abducted/Alive/or deceaced.We all have one common bond,(HaLiegh Cummings) The desire for truth/anwsers/ an that we want her Found.

HaLieghs such a beautiful child.With her sparkling eyes full of wonder.Yes im sure shes missed by those who love her.Theres one of her photos.Where she has wearing either a green,or deep blue dress.An shes looking up.She looks like a little angel in that photo.Its one of my favorites.

I too am sorry if i have said anything rude about any of her family.Because i should know first hand how it feels.Because our family went through the same thing,when our 2 yr old loved one was murdered (an we were investigated).Sometimes things said hurt,even if they are true sometimes.An im sure the famlies have read from these sites,an have been wounded,by some of the things that has been said through out this case.On all sites.Im guilty of saying things myself.

I think we all have strayed at times from what we really should be doing.Keeping HaLieghs photo,an name out.I beleive its been mostly because nothing has been released to us,by LE about how the investigation is going.An all the drama,with the families/people surrounding this case.It gets the best of us from time,to time.

I know S Hardy doesnt owe us anything.But i would be nice to here something from Him.We need incouragement that this case hasnt gone cold.An that they are still following up on every tip,or lead in the case.

It has been one crazy week.But rest ashured the truth has just surfaced.Granny23 thanks for the link.The truth always has a way of comming to the light.I knew it would,I was waiting.An thats all im saying about that.

Also my number has been turned in to check the other issue out.That to will come to the light to..

Almost 2 yrs now that this precious child has been missing.Thats a long time.Many children who go missing,if murdered by someone close.There usualy found soon after/unless its like Caylee.She was so close to her home,i think many wouldnt have ever though she would have been that close.

So i will still hold out hope That because HaLiegh has not been found.That theres still a possibility shes still alive.

As far as the confessions.Im still uneasy with that.Theres just no proof to back it up.Untill S.Hardy releases something,Ill still be looking for HaLiegh, even here in SC.

May God Bless you Jan,for keeping this childs name,an face,in the public eye.I know in my heart you are a good woman.Simon we miss hearing from you also.Even though i have never met you,face to face.I feel as i have known you for yrs.Its like you (Jan,an Simon),an all here.We are like a family,away from our own personal families.

An to all here,an reading.Who refuse to stop trying to figure out what could have happened to HaLiegh. God Bless all of you.

Your Friend,an fellow Blogger
Jan57

Tobias: Sorry I was meaning to answer your questions in my 3:47PM post.

My goodness, I am new at this. I do not know what I did for this to post THREE times! Sorry about that ;-(

TY. I just wanted another opinion since this is what I thought too. But if Lisa gets into another scrape before court the bail money will be lost. Right? I feel she is safer in jail to be honest with you. jmo

tobias said,in September 3rd, 2010 at 3:56 pm TY. I just wanted another opinion since this is what I thought too. But if Lisa gets into another scrape before court the bail money will be lost. Right? I feel she is safer in jail to be honest with you. jmo

I do, too , Tobias. At least then she has no access to booze or drugs!IMO

Tobias and Granny:
I also think that jail is a better place for her. If she gets into another issue while out on bond it would be revoked and she would be sent back to jail pending another court date. Whomever, posted it would get it back as long as she is brought back into custody without incident. In other words she turns herself in and they don’t have to go looking for her.

Also meant to say that the entire bond amount would not be issued back as they would withhold processing fees and court fees from it.

Strange huh vaquera. Wonder who had a hand in getting the other cases taken offline.

tobias said,
in September 3rd, 2010 at 3:56 pm

TY. I just wanted another opinion since this is what I thought too. But if Lisa gets into another scrape before court the bail money will be lost. Right? I feel she is safer in jail to be honest with you. jmo
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I am sure she was bonded out through a bondsman, I doubt anyone paid the 4500 to bail her out..you lose that no matter what. That is really how much the bondsman makes on you for putting up the whole amount..

Now if in fact someone did pay the whole amount, then if she doesnt get thrown back in jail again and shows up to court the person will get the full amount back.

Dear Jan, I have followed this also for a very long time. You just said that you have offered your opinion many times. I have looked for it and never found it. I know you think Haleigh might be alive. I doubt if she is but I hope you are right. What is it that you think? My thinking has always been that Ron did something to Haleigh. So what is he holding over everyones head? It’s like blackmail. He knows something about someone in the Croslin family and they know he will tell it, if this ever gets pinned on him. That is what I have always thought. I think you are terrific! Keep your chin up and don’t stop beleiving… Tell us what you think if you can. Your friend, Connie

PO working on a rehab.All stems from last hospital visit.Blood tox.

iltsm- ita agree.

vaquera- what you stated is how bond works here in California too. She really does need to stay put this revolving door isn’t helping her or her family.

Ginaj-IN said,in September 3rd, 2010 at 4:24 pm

ITA!With everything she’s going through it would be hard enough without an addiction!!

Tobias,Everybody knows a lawyer would walk a mile to lie before they’d stand still and tell the truth! It’s a shame though!

I agree Alex,and God Bless her if she could do it but I really don’t think she can right now?
Her entire life as she knew and lived it has changed drastically and to do it all sober right now……..I just can’t see her making it but I really wish she could!
She needs long term rehab imo!

wow Robin?
It burns my bunns to know that they have considered Haleigh as a homicide but yet no proof? That we know of anyway?
And now we hear signs are hung stating she’s alive?

ChattyCathy said,
in September 3rd, 2010 at 4:33 pm
>…………….

Are they brand new posting? My first time hearing this.

I mean Gina,if all this hasn’t changed her,Then Nothing will imvho! But I’ll always pray that I’m dead wrong!

I don’t know Adams,sorry lol but I just heard it too?

I read it when I came on here Adams,why I was asking?

IIRC Alex,Ron and Misty agreed to parenting classes after Haleigh went missing!
weird tho?

If I recall and not knowing fact from fiction Lisa has been a user since 15? She is might as well say 41 now so that is almost a third of her life! I just can not fathom that. Thank God I have not had to personally live my life with addiction.

Gina,I am glad you didn’t either,I was an addict but will have 6 yrs behind me in April of next yr!
I know it can be done if one want’s it bad enough but I just don’t see it in Lisa’s near future,sorry to say!

Alexandria I totally agree. The families should have came together and attempted to conquer NOT divide and try to conquer each other.

n57 said,
in September 3rd, 2010 at 4:24 pm

PO working on a rehab.All stems from last hospital visit.Blood tox.
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That’s what I thought and said elsewhere earlier. Probation had just gotten reports from when she was in the hospital last week when they put the warrant out.

Every one have a great Labor Day weekend I will be checking in from a remote access server while enjoying the long weekend with my family. Do any of you know if I will be able to post comments? By George I have gotten started after a year and seem to be hooked? LOL

JVM on… story about HaLeigh….

never mind, rerun…….

Does anyone have any idea how Tommy got a resentencing hearing so soon? I thought Misty was suposed to be sentenced that day? I know LE feels this is none of our business, but Haleigh has been missing way too long to have no answers.

The odds of finding Haleigh alive are slim to none. Have any of you that live in the area of the MH tried to do some investigating around there? I would bet Haliegh is within 2 miles of the MH. One would think LE would have found her, if she was there, but they DID NOT find CAylee Anthony—and she one mile away. LE are boobs.

Bonanzajellbean 8:00
I have often felt the same way. If they did not put her in that river she is not far from home. They did not have that much time to go too far and I think the river story is a way to throw people off. JMO

But then again the scent trail kinda makes me think maybe the river? I hate to even think about the maybe. Optimistically she is alive and well. However, I am a realist as well. My gut tells me she is in heaven. I hope that my gut is wrong for once.

I pray HaLieghs safe some where this holiday weekend.Oh how i hope this will turn out to be a good ending.She will be found,an returned home.

If not i know shes with Jesus.With Caylee,an those who didnt get to live their lives out here on earth.

An i will still pray for LC,an Hank.Hope the PO gets her counseling/an the care she really needs.If it was from her blood tox,that caused the arrest..

Jan, I only said something online once before, Please tell me what you think. I know that you probably have more info and also more insight. If you can’t answer me. Then O.K. I will leave it alone. But what do you think of my theory? You can actually trust me. Just grow some big ones and talk to us. We follow your words and we are waiting for you. If you can’t trust us then you don’t need us hanging on your every word. Talk to us. It is all meant in a nice comfortable way. It just sounds awful. Sorry…

Texas Mom;
I too feel that some thing is in the air. Don’t know what but some thing is stinking really bad. Will we ever know? I sure hope so.

Just Bring our little girl home already!

to texas mommy 39, I think you are so far out there it is unbeleivable. Haleigh’s mommy is for real you need to look elsewhere. SERIOUSLY….

TM, do you think that Misty and/or Tommy actually know nothing and that out of desperation to get out of jail they came up with stories to make it seem as if they were helping the case?

banana_nana3 said,
in September 3rd, 2010 at 11:48 pm

to texas mommy 39, I think you are so far out there it is unbeleivable. Haleigh’s mommy is for real you need to look elsewhere. SERIOUSLY…
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HMMM I wonder how long you will last! SERIOUSLY…

Ginaj-IN said,
in September 3rd, 2010 at 11:57 pm
Welcome to BNN or is it welcome back? Thank you, Ginaj-IN this place is open to all opinions. I am sure you know this if you have been here in the past. Nice to see all the new people posting that have been following this case in hopes of HaLeigh’s recover and return.

Tex mom
Thank you. I have been in the background for a year now. This whole mess the past week has just made me brave enough to register to comment. I value EVERYONE here foremost Jan & Simon. However, I have seen for a long time that some are here for the old bait and switch routine. NOT going to fall into that. I know from past post you and others will not either.

Welcome Ginaj-IN

Always glad to see new people posting!

And thanks for the new article Jan!

Ginaj_IN I am glad to see you sharing your voice on the matter at hand and that is HaLeigh. I will not be able rest and put this case to rest until HaLeigh is found. Yes I get a good dose of chit daily and from many of the regulars, but, those that have bumped heads with me, either back off and attack when they see they can or the others are willing to try and discuss things and agree to disagree. I have stayed frustrated with many others that only care about HaLeigh in hope and anticipation of HaLeigh being found for 18 months. I very much believe HALeigh is alive and being hidden. Now who it all comes down to being responsible is just a gut feeling guess for all of us without knowing the truth or having the evidence. IMO the evidence has not helped LE in 18 months so I do not think any of us could be any more brilliant in finding answers when there is none that say who did do it or trying to get the truth from a pack of lies. I will keep on asking the questions that seem to have a way of pissing some off, it matters not at this point. I am going to get it because I chose to stay and keep digging. When it is all over and done…. I am sure I will not be saying I told ya’ll so, but, instead rejoicing that HaLeigh has been found at last.

Incredible but believable if lc is in touble again. Can’t she keep it between the lines for a minute?

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Jan 57. Any word on lisa whereabouts from your souirces? Is she ok? Is she well?

Did u get any word on the fake phone callers?

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I see not much has changed!

Alex, I remember Misty saying she put a fake rose in a spot out in the woods. She couldn’t remember much more than that, but did recall it. Maybe her reality from dreams is all mixed up? Maybe she is a bit dilusional or maybe it is true? Who knows. Seems we never heard anything more about it.

TexasM…lol, yes we will see this through. I know that you and I are the ones who strongly agree on Haleigh being alive and just who possibly has her and who has found out that information and is keeping it quiet, while also making sure the focus stays on others.

No, it certainly has not been the popular opinion on here, but the theory makes perfect sense to me. Of course, I throw in my other theories too, because I can’t be 100% on any of it.

If I had to pick any theory out of all the ones I have read and heard about, it is the one I would want.

There are many evil people out there with motives that drive their behaviors. Others are out there just wanting their piece of the pie too. So, I agree that there are some strange things going on with others that all have a common denominator (other than Haleigh, other than drugs, other than ….). It is a sick corruption happening before our very eyes. Sometimes it comes down to money and power!

banana_nana3 said,
in September 4th, 2010 at 12:15 am

God only knows….I still think it was Ronald. If my dad had a secret that was very big, I would go to prison for 15 yrs. to protect him. My daddy is gone but there is something that I am getting from this. Ron has threated them and they are scared. I think Misty has told Ronald something that is a secret. Everyone bashes and trashes them as a family but ya’ what they love each other. It is just my thoughts. They are not evil. They are just what they are. Why can’t anyone relate with this family? Amonst all the child molesters and murderous things we see on the news everyday, why can’t we just have a heart for these probably nice people. Probably people who would never hurt a child. I don’t know? I am just saying what I feel. Take it as you will…
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I disagree with your suspect . It seems he has been cleared and was at work and OMG was a good daddy. I personally do not think he made good choices, but, he will pay that price not I. I like everyone else can point them out and see how these choices could of led to HaLeigh’s abduction, but, no parent is perfect and we all make mistakes and MANY have lost their child to poor choices and or bad decisions, but, that does not make them the killer or the one that commits the harm.
I have never accused CS or her family of the horrific things that has been said that Ron has done, because I know that these two loved HaLeigh. I believe HaLeigh is alive.
I know that there is a lot of individuals that think just like you and would cover for Satan if it was related, but, I am not such a person. I would and have called the cops on my own mother. I respect the law and expect others to do the same …our world would be a lot different. We would not see the destruction of drugs and alcohol or IMO child molesters or killers. We would not have over crowded jails that we are paying to house the ones that can not obey the laws and IMO need a system that is a waste of paper and time.
I hope you can soften your blows and give healthy debate of the facts a chance and and agree to disagree on our opinions and make BNN a better place to read.

OK Where and when did Ron threaten the Maternal side?
banana_nana3 said,
in September 4th, 2010 at 12:51 am

Goodnight all.. Several people are crucifying this family. I do not believe it. All their secrets are going to be aired and they are going to be in trouble. Do you want everything aired about you? I wouldn’t want everything told about me. I still say Ronald is the main culprit in all of this. He thinks he can scare the sh@@ out of this family who probably did never have the confidence to fight back. Ronald Cummings is a little pr@@@
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Snipped by me……Several people are crucifying this family. I do not believe it. All their secrets are going to be aired and they are going to be in trouble.
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Yes I know They are in trouble. I am sad that it happened this way. I just hope that HaLeigh, Jr. and Cloe will be raised together from here on out.

skip, ignore, skip, …..

JenM what ya thinking? LMAO did you you get all that?

OK I am fixin to pick it apart for you all. Someone stop me before I insert foot in mouth. LMAO

No, obviously just bored. Didn’t JB tell you I also spit pea soup and my head rotates?

You can call me TM39 , all my friends do.

Anyone know how old Chelsea and Timmy are? Was just thinking about something…

beautiful*adams {cent} said,
in September 4th, 2010 at 1:45 am

TexasM, how do you know it’s Connie?
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LMAO Beatuful This is why
banana_nana3 said,
in September 3rd, 2010 at 4:17 pm
snipped by me…Your friend, Connie
******** I could ask Jan, but, I think I will wait and see what Jan’s response is tomorrow, its way past my bed time.
But if you will take note …….
banana_nana3 said,
in September 3rd, 2010 at 11:20 pm
Snipped parts of post by me.
Jan, I only said something online once before,…

You can actually trust me..

We follow your words and we are waiting for you. If you can’t trust us then you don’t need us hanging on your every word……

banana_nana3 said,
in September 3rd, 2010 at 11:48 pm
Snipped by me.
Haleigh’s mommy is for real……

banana_nana3 said,
in September 4th, 2010 at 12:51 am
Snipped by me.
All their secrets are going to be aired and they are going to be in trouble…..
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IDK we will see.

JenM said,
in September 4th, 2010 at 1:53 am
LMAO why didn’t you save me before I inserted both feet? LMAO

I admit… “you can trust me” was a bit odd.

JenM, No I don’t remember off hand their ages. What ya thinking? I promise to skip and ignore, dang it.

Tommy is the oldest I do remember that and of course Misty is the baby.

I don’t always think I am right! LOL

You know beautiful you fit in nicer over here! You and I have been around for awhile and it has been scary in those other places. LOL

So has anyone posted a pix of the “new” Haleigh poster, that was mentioned earlier today?

I would like to see it my self. I wish blstark felt that she could share more information about that poster. Do we know who made it and put it up? I am hoping it was LE.

Always>Gnight

TM, I tried, but I think both your feet were already in there! Skip, ignore, etc., was my help, lol.
Never forget, there are people who like to pretend just to get stuff started. (not saying this person did)but there are those that do. AND, you never know that anyone is who they say they are and who they say they aren’t.

There was/is too much disjointed effort to cover this up, by a group that seems to be not too bright.

I see a lot of room for revenge in this by a couple of people, also a lot of jealousy. This didnt just happen all of a sudden, it was planned. As for money, somebody could have had a thought to make $$$ off of this ‘abduction’ after the fact, but I dont see it as the main reason as to why Haleigh disappeared. These people involved just are not that smart. They didnt fool LE, they just made their job a little bit harder by being so evasive and pointing fingers in the wrong directon.

I think a lot of posters have already hit the nail right on the head and of course LE knows too. I think they are just waiting for some type of movement, they are not going to put thier time into only the ones that are sitting in jail. I find it a little thought provoking IF true that new posters are in one area of FL. Why not in other areas of FL. as well? Its another mystery.

So, maybe for some part of these blogs, maybe we can talk a little about motive for Haleigh’s dissapearance?

Even when this all first happened, there are people who didn’t even know about it. Sometimes I think because we are so involved, that we think everyone else knows about it too. For example, I knew at least 2 people who didn’t even know about 911 a few days after it happened, only because they were not tuned in. I still to this day know people and meet people who have no clue whatsoever as to who Caylee Anthony is and don’t care who she is/was.

So, maybe there are people in this situation who are clueless as to who Haleigh is? If you live in another state and don’t follow national news or have the internet or whatever, would you really focus on that? If you adopted a child through shady measures that you thought were upright, would it even occur to you that your new adopted child had been stolen? Then we have those like Girrardo who convinced his wife it was ok to just take someone elses child. She was out and about, even working a job, and lived in a tent in the backyard for 18 years.

Maybe Haleigh is dead, maybe TC and JO fed her to the alligators, maybe MC is guilty of helping and hiding it, maybe Ron is in on it??? But, they aren’t masterminds to pull off the crime of the century, fool LE, fool FBI, etc. We have gone down the path now for about 2 years and we have Nothing! I figure we can keep looking there over and over and over and we will get the same, unless someone makes it all fit. Anything can be forced upon, but if it doesn’t match up, well….

Reminds me of those contests where there are 100 keys, they all go in the lock, but only one turns it and opens it. If you keep putting the same 4 keys in it over and over and it doesn’t turn, then time to try a different key (in my opinion). Becoming frustrated and convincing everyone to be patient that it will open eventually with one of the 4 keys is ridiculous!

It doesn’t hurt to look for the right key. That is how Haleigh is going to be found (in my opinion). Lets all try to ‘search again’. Keep an open mind.

Meanwhile, if it gets resolved some other way than the way we are searching, who cares? It’s about Haleigh and finding her. Doesn’t matter who is right and who is wrong when it comes to finding this little girl.

Good Morning everyone,

I just dropped in to let you all know that I don’t have a clue who Connie person is, that appears to be no where near Florida. As for this person saying she looked for where I had openly given my thoughts on this case, I do believe it was on Simon’s Sunday radio programs. As I recall one time he tricked me into saying it on the air, but I never said anyone in particular was guilty nor did I say it was all a fact. I always have said this was only my opinion.

And yes I do feel that Haleigh is alive but I have no facts to back that up. I don’t know anything that you all don’t already know. My point was to let everyone know that there are several possible theories about what happened to little Haleigh Cummings. None of us know for sure. The only ones that do is the guilty ones. And I have always said that Haleigh needs to come home one way or another.

There is an answer out there somewhere. Someone knows something and it is way past time for them to come forth with it.

Please have a great weekend everyone. Stay safe!

God Bless everyone of you, even our enemies

Jan Barrett

JenM- I think LE may have said this was a homicide because it would give anyone who may of had a life insurance policy on Haleigh to come out in the open. I don’t say this to be mean but I don’t think either parent thought of their childrens future and therefore no insurance. I hope and pray each night that Haleigh is alive but I have this sinking feeling that is just wishful thinking for a miracle!

Thank you so much,, Jan.

I thought Jan was sharing her opinions, on air and in her Op-Ed.

Too often we all have probably come to the correct and right scenario in this, but to spill it as absolute fact and actually point and name a name or names boldly; Well, I dont think there is Anyone in here that is willing to do that without paper proof. We cant trust any of the players in this, whether directly or indirectly involved, no confession or explanation would be adequate because they have not spoken the complete truth since Day One, but we can theorize and opine. We can go back and re-read transcripts of what was said and we draw our own conclusions.

A mixture of opinion is a good thing. We could miss a little statement and somebody will share it and before long, another piece of the puzzle is put into place. All the extra added side shows just deviate from the story about Haleigh.

Where is Haleigh, Why did this happen and Who did this, Who has her now?

It isnt only one person who knows. There are a handful that know. We need to keep Haleigh’s name out there. Somebody has to break or slip up eventually. There is no perfect crime and this is NOT going to go away, we will not allow that. I hope whoever is out there and has her and/or knows something, you need to step up now. Cant run forever and keep looking over your shoulder. I bet their conscience is eating them up alive, if they have one. Probably not, but something is going to give pretty soon.

My thoughts are that HaLeigh was removed from her dysfunctional surroundings by somebody who cares for her very much, and who had been observing her life style for a while.

Before Misty came into Ron’s life, Ron and Crystal were already having their issues related to the children. And that’s without any criminal rap sheets on the side due to drugs, theft and whatever other illegal activities that were par for the course in their lives.

Then when Misty came along she brought her own baggage of clowns that had their own rap sheets and reputations. For Misty to be playing momma and declaring that role to hurt Amber and/or Crystal probably wasn’t too smart on her part. To say nothing of the fact that she, herself, was still jail bait at the time. I gather it’s a small town consciousness in that part of the state and everyone knows everyone else’s business.

I get pissed off just reading about these people and their circus acts. I can’t imagine that there isn’t somebody who knows even more than what we read about them who may be related to HaLeigh and who knows her current upbringing couldn’t come to anything good.

We know how HaLeigh has touched all of our hearts just through photos and videos. If I was a half sane relative I would probably entertain the idea of getting her out of that environment. But I wouldn’t be smart enough to pull it off or get away with it.

I hope she is somewhere safe and sound. We often say she should be brought home to her family. If they’re all on drugs and/or in jail, who is there to bring her home to? And what for? Her sake? This is an honest question by the way.

Exactly. The only people I think that are connected with money and Haleighs dissappearance could be those who have already made the money. Or, maybe even lost money and thus the revenge.

Yes, shame on those you mentioned too. And, Money, Power and 15 min. of shame means a lot to a whole lot of people.

I think though that Money might be involved in a way to keep people quiet too. We just don’t know. So to me, that is the same as making money off of Haleigh.

I think it is strange that these people seem so broke and down trodden, but let them need bail out of jail money, or back payment money, or whatever, and up pops a ‘mystery’ person willing to give away thousands and thousands of their money for that. That seems foreign to me. It makes me question it all more.

If it’s to buy clothes or help feed someone yes, or help them in some way, but to give huge amounts of your money away for those reasons….hmmm, makes me wonder who the mystery person is and where did they get that money?

Just some thoughts.

browneyes said,in September 4th, 2010 at 12:08 pm My thoughts are that HaLeigh was removed from her dysfunctional surroundings by somebody who cares for her very much, and who had been observing her life style for a while….
I hope she is somewhere safe and sound. We often say she should be brought home to her family. If they’re all on drugs and/or in jail, who is there to bring her home to? And what for? Her sake? This is an honest question by the way.

It’s a good question and I’ve asked it to myself. People cannot take the law into their own hands, much as they’d like to. A person may feel like they would do a better job raising a child than that child’s parents, but they may be being subjective. It’s frustrating because we all know that there are flaws in child protective services, but that’s their job. It’s not the job of well-meaning relatives or friends or outsiders to go grab a child from her parent’s home in the middle of the night and whisk her away to an unknown location.

I have some interesting things to share soon.Docing all attacks.All post that have been stolen from here,an who stole them.To what sites they went to.Seems i have been added to the list.

However this artical is about a precious missing child.HaLiegh Cummings.An i will not use it to post all the names who are doing this.As one wanted others to come here an challenge me.Maybe they should contack my Attornies.

Praying Daily that HaLiegh is found.An that the whole truth comes to the light.It is all about HaLiegh,an not all the drama.

any updates on the flier blstarke mentioned or more info on the changed dates for sentencing?

have a great holiday all.

Aligoo…true, true. It’s totally illegal to swipe somebody else’s people and make off with them. But that doesn’t always stop people from doing it. You have law abiding citizens…and just plain citizens. I wouldn’t put anything past this whole cast of characters…and maybe some we haven’t even heard about yet.

browneyes@12:08 – Don’t you think if it was a caring person they would have taken jr. too?

GAYHART BENJAMIN TALON 4/01/1991 M W 10-03646 9/2/2010 10:05:00 AM 9/2/2010

This is the Talon Misty talked about in her ajil tapes, I THINK HE IS A RELATIVE, I saw a pic on another site of Lisa and her family in Tn. and he sure looks like the guy in one of the pics. I wonder if he was visiting with Lias and got popped for a parol vioalation at the same time? Only she was not arrested until the 3 when she went to her PO? JMO

Aligoo- If they took her because of lifestyle, then jr, being younger, would be in a more vulnerable position. Also feel if the purpose was to save the children, it would have been well planned out and they would have taken both!

Robin-it’s an interesting theory but I don’t see Ron being portrayed as Public Enemy # 1. That definitely goes to Misty with Tommy a close second. Ron may be in the top ten along with Crystal, JO amd SOs but he is the darling of many. It does make one wonder how he got away on previous charges but I don’t think it was because he was a Narc or Snitch. But by his own account he is a druggie and his guilty plea is evidence he is a drug dealer, not that plea was needed as the videos speak for themselves.
The biggest mistake Misty made in her life was hooking up with Ron. jmo

I check this site daily. I will go check peter hyatts site and art harris’ site when I hear new Haleigh news HERE FIRST.. Other than that, I don’t stray for info on this case ususally. If someone posts a link, I may visit that link or not…its 50/50. Call me lazy and loyal.

I know enough about good solid sources by the way of some bloggers here who research their facts before posting them. On the rare occasio thhey are wrong, either they or another, posts the back up for the comments made, so I feel like I get the straight poop here eventually within a day of new events after more dedicated folks than I am check on the topic of the day.

I’m sure other sites have some credible people trying to work this case online with others, but I feel better being here. I don’t agree with some but the well thought out, civil(for the most part )well researched posters are why I stay tuned to bnn.

Sure, we get some strange and goofy people flying by with this or that ridiculous comment or rant, but, it doesn’t make we want to run away.

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Wow robin…that was a well thought out comment. I couldn’t have put all those pieces together like you did. I just had the thought that it was a well planned abduction from relatives. I couldn’t take it much further than that. LOL! Thanks for filling in the blanks to where I thought I was going with my sometimes unruly thoughts.

Robin, you are certainly one that has me coming back to read each day. We may not agree on every issue, but like so many others here, I listen to what they have to say and respond with respect. Now, respect may have a differing broad definition range for all of us and I have strayed of the respect perch at times, but I enjoy following this case for a lot of reasons and bnn I my anchor.

Robin- I don’t go to other sites unless a link was posted here, I watch JVM & NG when they have something regarding missing children. I did read some other sites before I found BNN but they were too far out for me to post on. This site is great because there are so many opinions and even those who agree on who the culprit may be don’t always agree to the why, it is food for thought and I feel every blogger whether they agree with me or not offers a lot to trying to find Haleigh. Sometimes things get a little heated but I feel it due to the passion to find & bring Haleigh home. I don’t think personal attacks on fellow bloggers are productive or warranted. That said, I think all the truly caring bloggers, no matter what their opinion, are here to bring Haleigh home.

I have to admit that when people say they are ‘attacked’ (again wildly broad definition and perception to us all) for their theory on what happened somewhat odd to me. I have challenged parts of facts or who dunnit suspects and even good hearted folks who want to get more involved in this case for one reason or another and didn’t fell I was attacking them…just asking questions to clarify their line of thinking on the topic. I think folks get to sensitive on line. They read posts to mean more than it does sometimes. Instead of reading the same exact worded question from a friend as cool, then act like they have been shot. In the leg from another who is asking the same thing. Its incredible to watch.

Anywho, maybe everyone should try and read a post several different ways and look for the POSITIVE intentions from it rather than taking it as a personal afront. Idk…I maybe way off, but it my opinion.

WhyLie, I totally agree. I think the combination of Ron and Misty was totally toxic-and a sweet little girl is missing and possibly dead because of it.

I know I’ve said this before, but, when people around this case or blog or tv show or whatever, start trying to star in their own movie, it clouds the real meaning and issue at hand.
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Imo, When you bring the nonsense we are pretty free from here, to this site, it dilites the quality of this site. I won’t lie and say I don’t rtead it….I’m just that way, but I’d be fine if that never happened again. If I miss some trash talk, I’m ok with that.

I realize that journalistic reputations are in play here and simon and jan should be defending their honorable intentions, but I don’t hope and pray a ‘scandal’ breaks out between side parties to this case.

I agree with you there, jaba, I think the ones who have been most scandalized though are the Croslins.
The lawyers and media, what ever comes out about them is on them. They brought themselves into this case and jmo but some just for fame, sometimes fame can bring shame. They surely know that!

biohazard-ita

JenM said that Steve Brown said, “that it will totally surprise you when you find out.” I don’t think that’s what he said. I think he said, “You won’t be surprised when you find out.” I’m pretty sure he’s convinced that JO is the real culprit behind Haleigh’s disappearance. I tried to find the exact quote but couldn’t find really either one of those.

I don’t think “he’s been shut up.” I know he testified at TC’s sentencing hearing. I have it on good authority from PCSO that he is in frequent contact with them and continues to give them new tidbits that he uncovers. So while he hasn’t been seeking publicity it appears he continues to plug away on the case.

I don’t know anyone other than Brown, including PCSO, that is doing any active investigation on the case, except for SKB. But I’m not tied in really tightly with PCSO so I wouldn’t know if they have anything new going on or not.

The think that keeps me wondering is the money that was owed in child support.

I believe C.S never took blame for not having her children live with her and stated it was Rons fault cause she was scared of him.

Also stated that she lost the children due to being tricked by R.C. and the courts on trail date for custody of the minor children.

It wouldn’t be hard for her b/f to have been in the area visiting with family , friends and went to go see if R.C had infact left the children at home alone saying they do believe he done this.

I also recall Misty saying the children wanted to watch 2 movies that night and she allowed one to stay in the living room and one in the bedroom.

If she fell asleep with Jr. in the bedroom and one of CS family come by I believe as any little child Haleigh would allow them in, maybe this was something as simple as ok lets take her now and come back for Jr. at a later date.

Mr Sheffield i have heard in interview at one point in time say Ronald stole the children off him. So could he be involved to get even for Ron taken the children away??

I’m not saying this is my only thoughts on the matter at hand but I do feel they had a motive.

I sure hope that Haleigh if alive is somehow getting to speak to her Mom and others in the family cause if she isn’t then she must feel like her whole world been taken.

Her Grandma T.N cared for her with Ron before Misty come along and still after Misty.
Also R.C. nanny did and she states that at 7-7:30 PM she saw Misty cooking for the children while dropping off laundry.

These were Haleighs closest family ties at the time she was taken.
Ronald , Jr., TN. AND RONS Nana and sad to say but also Misty on a daily basis.

I don’t believe Ron was the controller of anyone of these girls no assault charges filed against him and if he was so controlling Misty wouldn’t have been out partying for days.
Also C.S. would have gotten herself cleaned up once she left him and not return to him and say it was so bas she had to leave again.

IF that was the case don’t you think she should of been a better mom and took her children with the help of the police.

I don’t know something don’t fit. Its like the picture of Haliegh after the school fall where they say Ron beat her, proven to be a untrue statement.

Who ever had a hand in HaLiegh being missing,will recive the just punishment they deserve.

If she was stolen,an hid for some perpose.Then i dont care if they though it was for the best.To me it would be a cruel act.Snatching her from those who love her.An taking her from those she loved.

If it was a murder,then i just pray they are charged,an convected.Im so tired of hearing,another child has neen killed.

What ever was done,no one had the right.Butter Bean is without his sissy tonight.An thats sad.

I dont blame one side in all this.Its been yrs this family custody fude has went one.An thats a same.That not one adult could stop being selfish long enough.To think of the children first.

An i just detest someone who want support their children(man,or woman).If i couldnt have done anything else.I would have give up something to make sure my babies had extra.

Its hard on one parent going it alone(One paycheck).Every little bit helps when raising two children.Mainly when one has a health problems..

Its called sacrifice.What parents do.Because of Love.They make sure the children come first.Their needs before your own.

Alexandria Loring – Your comment just blew me away – I will for sure check picture frames. I too care for my Mother – 5 rings still missing after 4 years.

Jan, I am going to hold out hope too and prayers for Haleigh.

Alexandria Loring said,
in September 4th, 2010 at 9:58 pm
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I’m glad you found her ring and glad she won some money at bingo

vaquera- thanks, she was upset because she had to split the game with two other people. She had it before them but forgot to mark a #. Some of the Bingos out require you have the last number called in your bingo but St. Anne’s knows that it’s hard on the elderly and they are the biggest supporters of the game so as long as your numbers are called they honor the Bingo. Her back really hurt when she got back from sitting so long. Also my sister & the caregivers said they will never do that again because she yelled at them when they tried to daub her papers. I told them it doesn’t matter if she wins just that she had the night out. They also are not good at assisting in the rest room. They spent half time with mom in there & they never got to go. Mad dashes when they got home! lol

robin said,
in September 4th, 2010 at 6:56 pm
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Great post.

Steve Brown http://www.news4jax.com/video/23145771/index.html

GeorgiaBoy said,in September 4th, 2010 at 9:36 pm JenM said that Steve Brown said, “that it will totally surprise you when you find out.” I don’t think that’s what he said. I think he said, “You won’t be surprised when you find out.” I’m pretty sure he’s convinced that JO is the real culprit behind Haleigh’s disappearance. I tried to find the exact quote but couldn’t find really either one of those.
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Thanks Georgia Boy. I know that has come up in the posts before and no one could ever agree what was said. I will have to try and find it. It’s probably another one of those ‘twist on words’ like the beds made, etc, lol.

Good to know he is plugging away on the case, but why would he do that if he already knows who did it and made an announcement? Just curious.

Don’t know if this has been posted. Very interesting article by Peter.

http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/
seamusoriley 9-4-10

“Truth in Journalism: Misty and Casey”
Liar Liar Pants on Fire!

lillost1- I think they charged Misty & company with trafficking and that’s how they justify the higher bond. But now the sheriff’s son, his bond was low, imo, for his charges.

Wasnt Hardies son arrested by Palatka police? I believe this has a lot to do with it. Also When they set bail its the SA not the LE. And if there was anything shady with it their lawyers would have done something like bond reduction etc. jmo

Since there are people who reportedly spotted Haleigh in this little town, seems they may of known who the person(s) were with her? Did they seem new in the area? What did they look like? What were they driving? Wouldn’t someone follow to find a license plate when they left or anything?

Seems awful quiet again after the “attorney blabbings” about JO being the guilty party in this, eh? I think it is another ‘she’s in the lake’ incident. Sorry, I just don’t think they are that bright that they can illude LE like this. I think the lawyers, media, or even LE could of embelished this story, based on all the stories put together! I would have to hear it directly from their mouths, in a confessional way, not pressured/forced from LE or twisted. But I don’t see that happening. I think I would hear Misty say…”I was sleeping and when I woke up she was gone”. But that’s just my thought right now.

Thanks for the link, Ann-Tx. NG is going to start innundating us now with her new daytime talk show starting up pretty soon. Just what we need, more of her.

bonanzajellybean said,in September 5th, 2010 at 10:28 am “LE declared Haleigh dead. Without hard evidence that she is dead, they would not have declared that to the family.
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bjb, I think LE told the families this right before the search at Shell Harbor because they didn’t want the families to be shocked at the news of the search. I think LE really believed whatever story they were told that led them to Shell Harbor and really believed they’d find the proof. They didn’t. And they were very mad at T – grabbed him out of his cell and questioned him without his lawyer, remember?

So I think LE has no evidence at all and simply has too much pride to back down off their pronouncement that she’s dead. They should, though. I don’t care what they “think.”
Police have been wrong before. So until they can prove it, I’m going to continue including the possibility that Haleigh could be alive.
Unfortunately I’m not sure that it’s in a happy safe place necessarily. There are a couple different possibilities there.

m2c

This shows how LE is able to manipulate the media, and how the media does not invest the time to follow up on a story like this. All we keep reading in mainstream media is “LE is keeping evidence close to the vest”. What exactly does that mean????

Le doesn’t have to release any information they may have gathered in this case until the Sunshine law kicks in, and that will only be after they have arrested someone for this crime, or it s declared a cold case, if I remember correctly.

I believe that’s right, Granny. And I think it will be a cold day “you know where” before either of those conditions is met if LE can help it.

Just so nobody thinks I’m a troll. I have been here for a long time I just don’t post very much. .

Oh, is this news then?

Here’s a link to a post concerning the Sunshine law as applied to this case. It is too long to repost here.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8340.0

Thanks tobias!!

Alos from my above post. The furnace would be very hot if the door had been open for a long time and the MH would be very warm. If the door had only been open for a short time the furnace would not be very hot. See where I am going? Maybe some evidence LE has not released. jmo

Its just the way they post it on the site. It doesnt mean someone paid anything. Ron is not out if you look at the inmates serch he is still in custody. Also if you look at his charges the ones bonded are the ones he had taken away for the deal. jmo

YW. Also if she ran the washer there would be water in the pump that would be at a certain level. And alot of people dont clean the lint trap at the end of the drier cycle, just at the beginning before they start it. I know thats one of my OCD(lol0 PET PEEVES I do it starting and stopping because I have a teen that forgets both times.lol Lint fires are not good. jmo

Another thing I have been thinking, I smoke so I know when you are cleaning up the first thing to get pitched are the butts in the ash trays. which would be in the trash can ( also evidence by brand and DNA on filters) Ron and Misty smoke Newports and Basic lights I think.
So any other brand would be subject to question.jmo

Maybe that’s where they got all or some of the DNA samples that they can’t identify. If it is then it can’t be from prior tenants.

ty-chakra7, but I do very little for mom, mostly assisting her with hygiene, medication & nagging, that way my sons, niece and the caregivers don’t have to take the brunt of dealing with her mentally and physically.

tobias- you’re so right! lol

Not much to report on in the haleigh case. Unless you count Lisa but since she really is not involved I guess we will have to wait for more news.jmo

Texasmommy–There is a definite double standard in PCSO with regards to this case. Check out PCSO news release for 1-20-10 which was the drug bust related to Misty, Ron, Hope,Tommy and Donna. Notice the bond amounts. Then check out the next news release on 1-27-2010 of the Man arrested at a local pharmacy trafficking pills (oxycodone). His bond was much lower then the previous individuals with only one count of trafficking (14-28 grams). While one count set Tommy’s bond at 1OO,OOO dollars, the other man received an 11, 508 dollar bond for basically the same type of substance (Schedule II)and the same amount of grams (14-28). There is NO consistency in the bond amounts, whomever is responsible for setting them.

rootcanalpal said,
in September 5th, 2010 at 11:18 am

So who posted bail for Ron on 8/20?? Anyone here have an idea or know for sure?? Tia
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No one posted any bail for Ron. When the two charges were dropped as part of his plea deal, the bond for those two charges was also dropped. Therefore, his bond has been reduced by $500,000 ($250,000 each, because those two charges were the two highest charges) It appears as if the bond was posted, but it was really just dropped as part of the plea. When you look at the booking, he still has three charges up there with bond that has not been paid.

Well done, Jan!

In addition to Ann/Tx who provided you with the link to Seamus’s Analysis’ blog, please know that someone there mentioned that BNN deserved an apology.

I completely agreed with that, and stated as such.

I truly believe that ALL OF US are desperate in our search for the truth where little Haleigh is concerned.

Granted there are some out there whose primary focus is to wreak havoc amongst the people, and cause confusion, commotion and cruelty…

With them aside -

I say we all, including you and Simon, forge ahead and fight for the life of us to get to the TRUTH that is so rightfully deserved.

Truth entitled to her family, her friends, her community, and those of us out here, who have grown to love that precious child.

More importantly, Truth To HER – Little MISS HALEIGH CUMMINGS!

She is entitled, and deserving of being brought home, and put to rest accordingly – PROPERLY!
Whether it be in her mother’s arms, once again, or it be in the form of a proper funeral and burial.

As painful as that thought is, she is deserving of at least THAT!

I thank you, Jan!

For reaching out and posting your thoughts about the whole Haleigh-fiasco.

Once Simon claimed that he would no longer be visiting or reporting on this subject, across the board, a sense of extreme loss was felt. Along with a sense of desertion to the Haleigh Cummings case.

Many of us understand his reasoning, along with his choice to discontinue reporting on it; however, I can assure you – Right here and now! That ALL OF US would give whatever it takes, for both of you to continue reporting on this case, or if necessary and Simon stands by his decision, that YOU will continue on by yourself.

We ARE here for you –
And will continue to be!

That, my fair lady, is a PROMISE.
We will support you all the way, and partake in all that you ask of us – Right People?

With much appreciation,
and a great BIG hug!

CptKD

ty, Robin! To me that drug case is more serious than the Misty/Ron drug bust because they had a child with them.

Miss Betty, Jones was part of that big bust done by DEA and USCIS, with the cooperation of PCSO 6-8 weeks after Haleigh disappeared. If I remember correctly there were about 10 people arrested, 2 houses, and several of them were senior citizens.

I think those seniors have been involved in the trade since they were just pups.

You know Miss Betty, sad as it is, it sure seems that a lot of information and pics for family trees will be made up from court docs and mug shots. It is very sad, imo.

LadyDay said,in September 5th, 2010 at 10:34 am
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You welcome, LadyDay!

I won’t be watching her. I hope she keys down and cuts out the attacking aggressiveness towards her guests.

I read somewhere on a blog that her show was going to bump a Judge ? (whatever, I know it is not Judge Judy) show. The person making the comment was not happy about that.

I wonder what her buddy (think orange at one time) plans on doing since Nancy won’t have her Nancy Grace Show anymore. I wonder if he will try to hop on the Jane Velez-Mitchell show.

If Haleigh is still alive (and I hope to God she is)I’m wondering if Ron and Misty thought they could get “ransom money” donated for her “safe return,” but instead, use it to pay off Ronald’s supposed big debt to drug dealers. (He did say at one point, all he needed was $30,000.)Then Haleigh would miraculously be returned to her “incredulous” family.

Of course, it makes very little sense~ Who would have been watching her for all these months?

Jan, I wonder if you could expound on your gut feelings and share a scenario or two whereby Haleigh could be be stashed somewhere. Do you think those drug dealers might have her? Do you think Crystal and her family might have had a hand in it? Or is it something else?

I thank you and Simon for keeping her name in the media. I agree with you; one day, hopefully sooner rather than later, someone will finally give up an important clue. Till then, I shall continue to peruse your site for any little bit of information that you might have. Thank you.

Wow! What happened? That was suppose to be a tiny url. Jan please delete. I don’t know what happened.

Or – - – Jan, can you please make the Link smaller? Thank you!

Ann-Tx. The show NG is debuting is based more along the lines of a trial of sorts with guests, wont be like the one she has now. It’s being syndicated through Columbia Broadcasting Co. If a court type show is being pulled, it is one of the lesser known ones. All depends whos coming up on their contracts and/or who is not so popular. I like what you say about the color orange. All I can say is think tanning bed and then add self tanning lotion, or maybe a wild accident with a juice truck – its the ‘Florida look’- lol. I think somebody thinks they are next in line to sit on the royal throne, but it wont happen.

Without going into too much detail, some of these rusty fishhook people who infused themselves into this case should be downright ashamed of themselves for using a missing child as a springboard to curry favor with the media. I hear ‘@im$*&#@*^.com’ more often than I hear Haleighs name and theres always just enough Bombshell news that everybody already knows, spun 50 different ways.

Id like to know just who it is that has Haleigh, what was the reason she was taken and who is protecting who or who is it that is keeping people from speaking the truth?

oops pick a child as an initiation requirement.

Grandma of 5- that’s great! A lot of catching up to do, I bet! I know what you mean about a piece of your heart being missing but we have to let them grow. Have a good visit. Hugs!!!!!!

Simon was courteous and didnt put it in a story line here. This is a different subject matter so it went someplace else, thats all. All Ill say is All Hail Brittannia!

Where is Haleigh?

Whoa, take it easy on Lady Sadie! Is she not one of the good guys? As long as I’ve been reading she has always been a good blogger. Anyway…..
Thanks J!! You cleared that up, Its hard to pay attention to traffic when there’s a train accident- right! Justice for Haleigh!!:)

good morning to all, Happy Labor Day to my fellow Americans…… enjoy your Labor free day… as intended..

No more on HaLeigh.. it breaks my heart.. who can help a child or an animal? Only an adult… who did what to HaLeigh? I am sickened that adults didn’t treat this precious life as she should have been treated. The adults in her life LET HER DOWN.. yes, Grandma, mom, dad, girlfriend… this means you!

SO be it if Tommy, Misty, Ronald, go to prison. I guess that could be my justice. If for ANY reason this child was murdered and never found, then in the end, the Higher Power will speak.

WHere is baby HaLeigh???

The unmentionable has a new article up dated yesterday. I ask please, everyone to go and read it and make up your own mind.

“Because of the sad realities that sometimes exist within a missing child case, simply determining if HaLeigh was alive or deceased would be a giant step toward locating her.”

Now ain’t that the truth

robin, yes the attempts at discrediting those that speak the truth is a fact and those that Lie are given a platform in which to spew those lies.

You are right! I think this case has become one big cover up after another. I do not buy Misty and Tommy’s story and the author brought up a good point about the black bag being eerily similar to Nay Nay’s version that was likely fed to her by LE. This man has tried many ways to alert the public, even going so far as complaining to the AG. I will give him credit for that.

Slightly off topic.

I recently read a story about one of the officers in the Haleigh case, Officer Joculier? This story was dated from last April. I have not heard of any updates, but with all this talk about giving donations to someone down on their luck, wouldnt it be just as satisfying to maybe start sending donations to this officer on behalf of his son to help defray costs of procedures? His young son was diagnosed with some form of cancer in March or April of this year I beleive, it is devistating how it came about so quickly. I wonder if anyone thought to help him and his family out? I think this officer is too proud to ask for anything, but at the same time, probably needs help, at least prayers. Please?

Alexandria–That’s what I was thinking, too. But then again they could maybe explain that away as saying he misses his sister so much that he “imagines” he sees her. I do not know what to think, but I honestly do not believe Ron, Misty, Tommy, or Joe harmed Haleigh–accidental or otherwise. None of these stories add up–Nay Nay’s, Misty’s, or Tommy’s. Something is just not right here and I think at the end of the day LE and a few others will have some explaining to do. That’s why they will never let this case go “cold”–When the Sunshine Laws kick in (one way or another) the public will definitely see what a sordid mess this case has become. JMO

LadyDay–I do not think we are talking about that the same “unmentionable”. I know who you are talking about and you are so right about him.

Robin- Is there a time frame when a case is considered cold in Florida or is it just when no LE is assigned to it anymore?

Alexandria–I do not have a clue. I guess that’s up to LE. As long as they are actively pursuing this case, which they claim, or they charge someone with the crime, I do not think we would be privy to any information. I think Granny23 posted a link above about Sunshine Laws IIRC.

Robin…Ohhhhhhh Him! Okay…thanks. And I think I already found the other “unmentionable” site. Or at least it should be! LOL! Thanks again.

oops monkeys

Good morning, everyone! Maybe when certain subjects come up they could go to the Forum?
Not sure that’s okay with Jan and Simon either but at least it’s not the most public blog that everyone in the world can see – and people can PM each other with web site addys or whatever. Just an idea.

I really think some of the nitwits have had a go round or two at a donkey bar-b-que this weekend, breathing too much smoke or something. Another unmentionable? Sounds like a contagious Depends epidemic going on!

Oops! I am the slow one, Texasmommy39. Sorry.

Oh it was sothernvagirl talking about M2. Lady Sadies the one who said she doupts Jan even knows how to block her from her facebook account.LadySadie(FlaLady 1126)I never liked a snake in the grass.(Cough)Seems like theres quite a few slithering around latly.

I read the article that Tmom posted a link to. Very interesting.

Seems that cobra is being portrayed in a terrible light. We know he reads this blog. I wonder if he will refute or agree with what thhe articles states he SAID and DID…I d k.

Or is the author just trying to get back in the case for other reasons. Hmmmm…u never know with this case. Imo

So the cut and paste isn’t allowed on the net these days? What do you mean by stealing posts? I’m confused as to what the problem is. Anyone care to spell it out for me?

Ithink you are talking about news articles and other ifo on Haleigh and not posting personal posts on opions that some do just to make jokes about what they wrote or said. This is just the actions of a bully who needs to make themselves look good. I really could careless if they take my posts since I am not threatened by what others think. lol jmo

SUBJECT: HALEIGH MARIE CUMMINGS

For almost 19 months now, a little child has been missing and presumed dead. Her name is Haleigh. she was 5 yrs. old when the world heard about the story. What has transpired since then has been sometimes unbelievable, sometimes outrageous, but each story in a story has a place in the whole picture of this missing little girl.

The thought has occured to many that this little girl was probably taken in trade for bad drug deals, or taken away because she got into drugs and maybe died. Some has had the idea of abduction by revenge and that is where I am going to start.

There is no question that there was a lot of bad blood going on between family members. Some are looking for the forrest through the trees, some have found the forrest and are looking right at the tree.

I have deduced that this child was taken out from the home and placed into another home with the help of some highly questionable and underhanded covering up and threats going on along the way. There was never any proof of harm done to this child to make one think she was murdered on purpose or on accident.

It was about 10 months after the fact Haleigh went missing that Law Enforcement swooped in and began a drug sting operation. Why was it so pertinate to continually deal to Misty, or to deal to this specific group. One taped deal would have been enough to send her and the rest to prison for a long time. Someone in the mix wanted them to be sent away for a long time because they know who did this and they wanted these young adults to be shut off, shut down and shut up. Some of them had a part in this abduction, no doubt about that.

How many months went by before the mantra went up that 1 other person was responsible. It never panned out. The better question is who exactly put the fear into this group to start making up stories to the contrary. Why is it now that only certain people are bonded out of jail. Is it because they might know the real story, is it to keep the fear going to extended family members to keep their mouth shut up as to what that real story is. I think so. If the stories that they are telling was half true, we would have seen something much different. Nothing has been washing clean because it isn’t truth and they all know it.

There is something in that time line otherwise there would not have been a deal for Ron. That I believe is where we need the facts and I dont think we have them. Ron does. jmo

That time line includes weeks, tobias and IMO that means Ron had to have some knowledge for some time who possible had cause or motive to take HaLeigh way before the night in question..

Jaba–I agree with your 2:16 post wholeheartedly. I have never seen a missing child case have so many side stories and twists and turns.

Who is suing Cobra? In my opinion, he is not the only one that deserves a lawsuit.

Just wondering…why is he called ‘cobra’ where did that nickname come from? Is there a story to it?

If somebody gave something in free will, there shouldnt be any lawsuit. Once its in somebody elses hands, they are free to do with it what they want unless there was a disclaimer on it which I didnt see. So somebody goes and gets the public record with stamp, then what? Second verse, same as the first.

I think whoever it was that gave the docs to start with knew good and well what would happen. Always seems like things are done for a specific purpose, ulterior motive stuff. Throw a brick, hide their hand and see what comes up to attack it. They are nothing but a bunch of crap shooters.

I have to then ask my self what happened in April to give LE a reason to even bite at this BS repeated story? Is it the extra details or Something else?

Texasmommy39 said,
in September 6th, 2010 at 5:12 pm
By the way this is not my theory but would be willing to assist in being productive in the search efforts. My hope is that the locals have been looking for 18 + months and no news IMO is been good news. That reward would seem like a blessing for some don’t you think?

Texasmommy39 said,
in September 6th, 2010 at 5:24 pm

I have to then ask my self what happened in April to give LE a reason to even bite at this BS repeated story? Is it the extra details or Something else?
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What could it of possible been?
The only thing I see that is in addition to the details is not something, but, someone. SKB

From Ann – Tx
“By any chance are you Capt. Ken or Ken from Florida? If so, I have blogged with you, mostly about the Casey Anthony Case, on another site and have always enjoyed reading your comments.

The reason I ask is that your comment here sounds like Ken from Florida would have made it.

* Judging by your ‘rave reviews’ on this fellow, I wish I could tell you that I am Ken from Florida – But being who I really am, I am unable to lie to you, and so I must disappoint and tell you that my name is actually Kim.
I am writing from Toronto, Ontario – Canada, and not from the “sunshiney” state down there!!!
LOL!

Like yourself, and sooo-ooo many others, I have followed the Casey Anthony and Haleigh Cummings cases from the outset of each.
Though I don’t comment very often, I have on occassion, dropped a thought or two here and there. It is likely that we’ve crossed paths somewhere, out there, at some point.

I do spend a fair bit of time researching and checking out anything that has to do with “criminal activity”, but more specifically, anything that has to do with CHILDREN – missing/deceased.

As I said, I don’t post comments all that often, but sometimes the urge is simply too much to just pass on – LOL!

I work in the LE field, and feel that it’s best that I keep on the quiet side of things. Twenty years working on my career keeps me erring on the side or caution.

I have an extensive background in LE, and returned to school two years ago to obtain my Paralegal Diploma. Seems I just can’t get enough, and the older I get, the more I just HAVE TO know!!

Currently, I am consumed with, and enthused about learning more in the field of Body Language, and Statement Analysis. I have been checking ‘certain’ sites regularily and plan to study this further. What an incredible asset to have under one’s belt!!
Especially in the LE field.

Anyways, I apologize for not being who you thought I might be – But I will add here, that it’s a pleasure meeting you!

I will be out here following the goings’ on, and I’m sure, you’ll see the odd post from me from time to time.
I saw your post on Peter’s site, and saw you added the link – Good move!

Hopefully, the apologies to Jan and Simon will start rolling in….

Well Ann – I must be off….

Again, it’s a pleasure having the opportunity to share in these cases with you, although saddening that it is for the given reasons.

Until next time!

PS – Greetings and Happy Labour Day to Jan, Simon and all!

CptKD

Steven Kerry Brown
Crystal Sheffields hired PI up until he decided to go to work for Werter and I am assuming TC defence.

Well I have another link I have posted 2x and it seems both are to be held up at the moment.

http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Haleigh%20Cummings%20%20-FL-/?start=0

A lot of photos ,of HaLiegh,an others.Some i have never seen-22 different pages.On this link

Goodevening everyone,
I hope you all had a nice Labor day weekend.
Is anyone here?

Hey Tex,

lfj, I left an answer in the forum to your question.

Thank you WhyLie

lfj, I don’t think he was transported on that date. I think that was the request (motion) to transport him for his hearing. Fields wants TC in court that day and they can’t get him out of the Prison without a court order, so a motion would have had to been filed, and the judge will have to order the transport.

Oh ok. Thanks alot. My weekend was nice.

I am heading to the forum.

Does anyone know what that hearing is for? Has Werter posted anything recently on his facebook page about it (he is the one who posted on fb wasn’t he?

It is a hearing for modification of sentence. I don’t follow Werter’s FB so not sure if he has posted anything or not.

Alex, you pretty much have to cross reference, check the court docs. Since Lisa had not gone to court yet on her VOP doubtful her charges were dropped, so it is safe to say somebody bonded her out.

Thanks, WhyLie!

Most welcome.

CptKD,
This is the Link to the latest article by Peter Hyatt:

http://seamusoriley.blogspot.com/2010/09/i-kill-video-tape.html
seamusoriley 9-6-10

‘Casey Anthony “I Kill” Video Tape and Dr. Glass’

Does anyone know the significance of the amount $35,000? I know Ron reportedly said that if he had that amount he could get Haleigh back, but was there ever any more information on that?

I think Hank Sr. said Ron said that about if he had $35,000 he could get Haleigh home, but I don’t believe I have heard Ron say it. If it was said I am sure Hank took it out of context making it sound like what it was not.

Cate they set a hearing on TC’s motion for sentence modification for Oct 4th and moved Misty’s sentencing hearing back to Oct 19th.

Werter is trying to get TC’s sentence changed so he filed a motion for sentence modification. I am not sure if the judge will go along with the motion or not but it will be interesting to see.

I agree m2c that what Hank heard, or what Ron was discussing at the time, was not exactly the way Hank reported it. Kind of like the “Ron tried to kill me with pills” Yea, okay!

TM was not in contact with TN at that time. TN had stopped talking to TM, if I remember correctly, prior to that.

WhyLie- I beleive TN left a message for TM at that time telling him to come as Misty was going to crack, she wouldn’t let Ron out of her sight! iirc it was a voice message tp Tim as was Hank’s.

Morning everyone!
I would love to know has it been confirmed that a 911 call was placed at 2:13 am in regards to non emergency at or between Tyler St. and Green Lane?

I know Greenwood also made a mistake in saying it was TN that stopped by the trailer that night to drop off clothes and we have all been told all along it was GGS. So I ask is it a mistake or did it happen?

If that call did take place… Would it make sense that Haleigh’s abductor would call 911?
Theoretically if Misty was not home and said abductor was “family” and concerned for Jr. (since they did not take him) I would think it would then make sense that a 911 call was made in an attempt to involve the police prior to Misty’s call to 911.

Sentence modification is a two step process, It shows an existence of a new factor . The courts must detirmine whether the new factor justifies the modification. A defendent must have convincing and compelling evidence thats revelant to his prior sentencing not known to the judge at the time of sentence. Whatever the evidence was at the time, could have been overlooked. Whatever is going on now has to have something to do with the same hearing where TC was sentenced. If it had something to do with Haleigh, it would be a new ballgame.

I also would like to know if any one happened to know what campus Lyndsey was at that night taking night classes.
I know that Saint Johns River Community College has divided the semesters between the Orange park campus and the Palatka campus. The Spring session this year is at Orange Park location.
The Palatka campus is a 24 min. drive and the Orange park Campus is 1 hr and 8 min.

MY thought process is to confirm Lindsey time of arrival at home that Monday night. We know she was driving TC truck because she had loaned her van to Chealse.

If I am correct the two Croslin women had the responsibility or possession of the vehicles that Monday night up until a certain point.
Timmy is not going any where after his accident and was most likely asleep and under pain meds.
How old was TC and LC little girl? I have heard Lindsey state she was up with the baby a few times that night as well.
Chealse claims she was up late doing tax’s so how late is late?
The window of opportunity is very narrow IMO and all persons suspected to be involved had to of had ample time to commit and stage the MH before (2:13 if 911 had been called, because they would of witnessed Misty staging) Ron’s unknown arrival time from work.

you guys should try pinning down the time from the last known neighbour to see her(not family member) to when Ron Normally got home. JMO

Tex, Layla is 2 I believe now. Chelsea said she was up til about 12:30am once before.

Tex, iirc I had read before that Lyndsey got a ride with a friend home from school.

lfj-TY- To me while it’s not important to finding Haleigh, it gives insight into the credibility of those involved in the case.

lfj, that is interesting. I have never heard that before. I would then ask why would LC not of taken the truck? The truck would of been useless to TC to tote around 3 kids and a car seat while LC was at school. Another set of circumstances that raise more questions than give answers.

If there is any truth to the black man telling Ronald this, then a mean thug is involved with Haleighs disappearance. It was reported also that Misty told Charles Jones Jr that the drug people have Haleigh, but then she comes up with this cococted Joe killed Haleigh and dumped her in the river. No credibilty with her at this point.jmo

I want to talk about what happened to Mr. and Mrs. Barrett last week that caused a breakdown to their communication in this Blog site, not to mention to their health and well being.

After going over numerous documents and statments, I’ve come to the same conclusion that Mr Barrett stated, ‘It’s The Spin’, but it has a different meaning now.

Apparently, everything that had and has been spread by 2nd or 3rd parties and generated by the 1st part who has shed one image for a new image of media consultant, was done with a somewhat obvious intent at grandstanding, not to mention hurting innocent people. A media consultant’s 1st objective is to paint a picture that is favorable to their client and themselves no matter what the situation is. I think we have witnessed this time and time again, certain people who had worked on behalf of what had happened to Haleigh has been thrown to the wolves, but the most detrimental actions has been the continual venom placed out, not in the main stream media this time, but in certain Blog forums to generate hostile annimosity towards Mr. Barrett and his wife who dare to print the truth.

How do we know what was said contrary to Mr. Barrett’s true story that a person went to the hospital? Haven’t seen any solid proof on the consultant’s part, just statements from 2 separate 2nd parties who got information from the mouthpiece and proudly announced it in their blogs as fact. That is not proof. Proof also came in the forum of a person of questionable character who wasn’t in the area at the time the situation happened. I believe Mr. Barrett and his source. He didn’t send out an S.O.S. on the news, he kept it in his realm of journalism and on his blog site, same cannot be said for other sites. Others took his story and disseminated it for their own glee, to hurt and to hinder Mr. and Mrs. Barrett.

Always find it interesting that instead of trying to put an end to this Haleigh Cummings story, some people choose to go out of their way to hurt others who have no dog in the fight except to report the issues as they see fit. These same people had the intent to cause more questionable situations and cast continual doubt on people who worked very hard on this sad situation concerning Haleigh when they allowed documents to be placed knowing full well what the outcome would be and the idle threats start. I am not speaking about an investigator. I am speaking about the one who allowed documents out to begin with, could have only come from 1 place. There was dismal intent behind every one of the attacks.

TM39- I have to lol too!I wonder what TM thinks of his judgment or lack of now!

I seem to remember Chelsea had said in one of her interviews that ‘I would never hurt a child’, she didnt include the ‘we’ as in her husband and her. I only bring it up because of the talk about how one says certain things, analyzing words.

Big Bad John said,
in September 7th, 2010 at 10:10 am
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IMO those of us still here and posting do not believe they have been led astray by the Barrett’s. Many that have followed this case since day one on other forums and with many of the mentioned characters that had long ago inserted themselves or have been a part of the circus and are now possible a part of all this mess; know that it has always been a peripheral agenda definitely connected to the maternal side and HALeigh’s abduction.
IMO the timing of all this is interesting and the fact that person’s have evil agendas and earth shattering secrets are now willing to share and move forward with ___________ ? The circus or is it to find HALeigh?

rootcanalpal- ita, Most if not all of the bnn bloggers are interested in finding Haleigh but the sideshow of clowns does give one an insight into those involved in the case who are here to find Haleigh or here to find fame!

Looking for Justice @10:21 am. Thats right. Between her and another wife or former wife, they talked too much for somebody who wasnt right there at Ronalds mobilehome. Too much detail.

Which one of these women was the one that said there was pills thrown all over the place? How would they know this if they werent right there prior to the police showing up? Did they help clean the place up? Surely there wouldnt have been pills at that time-big red flag. Ronald and Misty would have been pulled in for that alone. Lot of contradictions going on with this group. Never understood why so much detail except they banded together and covered something up.

I believe it doesnt have anything to do with the Haleigh case except for what some did to another. And what they did was wrong. And they are still trying to insert themselves in the case even after their client fired them. jmo

You are so very, very right Alex!! You can tell-if you’re brain is functioning correctly who is looking for$$, fame, or trouble. And you can see who has this little girl in their hearts.

And I agree, most here have her in their minds and hearts. The insight into “The Scariest Show on Earth” is enough to make you wonder, and hug your family at the same time.
I know that when I first got into reading and worrying about Haleigh (about a month after she disappeared) I never thought that the things I read about now would have anything to do with that innocent little girl.

John W Sharp said,
in September 7th, 2010 at 11:02 am
Nope I am not disregarding him just am not interested any more in what he has to say.JMO

LadyDay it was Chelsea Croslin that said she knew for a fact there was loose pills just lying around the MH.

And recently I believe she has stopped conversing with him so we bring in a new person to get info for the show. Guess who? jmo

Well said, Jan.

The poor excuse has already been found out. Bet the new name came from another person in the media that special name in turn gets higher set fee for services rendered on tv shows. If a lawyer has a set fee by the hour, that is the fee they are paid by the sponsors of a show. But when you got a name such as spokesperson, they can command any fee they want to set, it would be higher than an hourly lawyers fee.

Nothing AH says is very interesting. SOS, different day.

Texasmommy, its good to take a stance and defend, but as an overall view, some of them just talk too much and continue to do so. Its fine to defend, but when the add ons start coming, some do question the reasons why. IMO, they should have kept certain things out of the media.

LadyDay, Chelsea said she was up to about 12:30am. Werter says Tommy said all of this story happened about midnight. It is about a 25 minute drive from Crescent city to where Ron lived. Chelsea would have known the van was not at her home before she went to bed. This is from her own admissions.

I find it very strange that Lisas dockets for her purse theft and check forgery are missing on the dockets. Since she is on probation and records just dont vanish. jmo

Morning peeps,i my self think the 35,000 comment by Ron.Was just that,a comment.Like if i had 35,000 dollars i could do a better job,than these people.35,000 would go a long way in getting the tools one one need to search for a child.

Another thing i would like to address.Is the TN offered MC money to babysit,because she didnt want to.I have yet to hear TN,or GGSykes,or any say that as truth.Not one video,or news interview reveals it at anytime.Other than Hollars gossip trail from Fla,to Tenn.

I also think Donna was a long term addict also.She looks it.What 44 yr old woman goes accross state lines.Get scrips from DR.Feeds them to a minor.An gives them up to sell.DB was making her some side money,an using MC,A minor to do it.Just another adult using a child to do their dirty work.DB begging in court.An using it was all about HaLiegh ,was disgusting.

I recall a scared MC calling 911 to report her purse being snatched.When she was out trying to buy some dope.Doesnt sound like a a long term pill dealer to me.If she had of been ,she wouldnt have had to be out searching for dope.

It wasnt TM place to have a LDT done on MC.Or his place to release results.I know she had one given at the start of the case,one given by TM an one when she first went to jail after the bust.So where is NG getting 4 LDT.Theres only has been 3 given.I do not trust LDT to many have been taken that later the findings did not match the test.

It may be very surprising in how LE handled this case.I still would like to know just how much imfo Cone gave a shady attorny.If she crossed the line,or not?

This attack wasnt just because of LC,it was way more than that.All good things come to those who wait.So ill wait an see just how,an why all of this came about at this time.Theres a reason behind it.I pray God shuts the mouth of The Barretts enemies.

Right Texasmommy, why look for a living child when in the first ring you have an orange clown juggling, in another ring you got a clown car packed with big red nosed yokel clowns (complete with a barn dance setting and XXX jugs of moonshine), and in the center ring a let’s make a deal/Law and Order wanna be show with a new act every night. Imo, I think there are a few people who know a lot of what really happened, and some who know a little and some who are cashing in. What I would like is for just one person who let Haleigh down, stand up and give an honest answer to an honest question and end all of this. Bring Haleigh home or bring Haleigh some justice, Let those who have time to do serve it, and stop the squeaking of the those damn clown shoes!! And honestly, I don’t know who can do that for Haleigh. I just feel like someone knows that they can and I just wish they knew she deserves it. Sorry to rant!

alittleflyonthewall, I left the answer I heard reported for you at the forum.

Looking for Justice. See, I had a hard time with where Chelsea had lived and the story about the van. I wish I could find the video, but I know at one time the address was reported for Chelsea as being on a 3rd Ave. not in the area of 2nd St where Tommy lived, but down the road about four or so miles away, thats where the confusion for me was at. In an interview with Jean Ceasarez on NG back in April of this year, Chelsea stated she lived a little more than 4 miles away, maybe it was seven miles thats a big jump from 25 minutes away. I need to check that transcript because some other things were said that didnt sound right. Now she is up at 12:30 am and she was also up at 3 or 3:30 am.

BTW does anybody know the whereabouts of Ambers mom? I only ask as this was a mystery as well. Didnt she have a warrant out on her?

Well TY tobias. I know I have a theory and it is well known, lol, but, I am willing to work through others theories to come to some logical conclusion on all with agreement from the majority.

Jan57, I thought that was one for the books, calling 911 to report theft of drugs while she and her friends were scoring drugs. I dont think even a semi prof. drug dealer would call 911 for drug theft. Shows her light bulb wasnt that broght then either.

I also have that theory on my list just not as high up there. The only reason is because there has been no proof showing it to be a possibility other than the child support issues. Which could have been worked out in court, usually no one goes to jail for the first offense. And seeing as how Crystal had no income the court would just garnish her taxes or any form of income they could find.jmo

LadyDay, Tommy lived on Tyler St. Right around the corner from Rons MH on Green lane.
There is a 2nd ave off of St. Johns right off 309. That is still Satsuma. In the UC tapes where it is stated that Misty was walking down the road around 3rd ave. is off St.Johns. It is like a fork in the road. You turn right on to St.Johns Ave. before you make the bend around the curve. It is about 4 miles from where they all lived in Hermits Cove.

Tobias I sent you a pm.
One thing about that 911 call is there was urgency in Mistys voice. She needed HELP. Why was she not that urgent over a missing little 5year old, HALEIGH CUMMINGS! jmo

True.

She needed a place to stay. And it appears NayNay came with her. LOL jmo

That MH sure was crowded with 8-9 people living there for several months. jmo

ifj, I have to agree on that frantic 911 when it was Misty in trouble/being hurt. Where was that urgency and total shock/fear when it was little Haleigh missing …or if one believes her latest tale of hiding under the covers, why no ‘help, help’ for police as soon as whoever walked down the ramp?

Maybe I’ve read too much into that ‘help me’ 911, but I know I heard a way different Misty when it was her needing help than I did when Haleigh was reported missing.

Amazes me with this family inthat they pick up a phone and call police for anything and everything and demand police to ‘save them’ and/or ‘take care of the bad guy’ beating me up immediately, yet they all are so afraid of _____________? (fill in the blank with whoever it is they are suppose to be fraid of)

I have a feeling Misty did that to piss Ron off. CJ and his brother had run ins with Ron and didnt like each other. She got Ron to take her back out of jealousy(my opinion on the situation) but she may have told Ron that it was also the only place she had to live. jmo

BBL school pick up. Chat with you all soon.

Thank you, Tobias. Once again what we hear over here is just another spin as to what actually went on. The news here centered on drugs stolen, not the phone or the money. Im quitting on all these street names, there are 3rd Sts. and 3rd Aves. that wrere mentioned, some close to Tyler, some further away.

Maybe it was Misty who took Haleigh out of the house. I think somebody is taking care of Haleigh. She probably has a new name and birth cert. One never knows what one can accomplish when one sets their minds to it and has or knows of somebody else with the means and knowhow to do it.

Whats that quip used where CMA was concerned, something about the end justifying the means. except I dont think the end in this case was the death of a child. The whole thing was about getting revenge and seeing it through, that included seeing Ronald being put away.

I believe that was to let Chelsea in on what lie she was about to unleash. Chelsea could then use her head to go along with the story. jmo

Anything in those tapes that was truthful as far as LE thought would have been redacted. And we all know certain parts were.jmo

jaceesmom said,
in September 7th, 2010 at 9:40 am

you guys should try pinning down the time from the last known neighbour to see her(not family member) to when Ron Normally got home. JMO
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Would love the attempt to be made by all ,but, no matter what; this bunch runs in many directions.
I would assume that the last time a neighbor saw HaLeigh outside playing would be between the hours of 4 and 6 pm. I am sure I will be corrected.
So if we have a neighbor that last saw Haleigh outside would be one of the few that are in visual distance of HaLeighs home, right? So would this neighbor also not notice anything unusual going on at the Cummings trailer up to a reasonable time? what I gather is the only thing mentioned was someone hearing someone screaming at around 2:30 am. Interesting because it could of very well of been HaLeigh!

TexasMommy39-
I agree with you. I was on bedrest when The caylee case started and followed that case and it lead to this case. so from the beginning I’ve been stuck on this case. Never blogged until lately, but I have read and watched everything I could and can. I guess i feel there is some hope even if it’s a slim hope this baby is alive, where as with Caylee I knew from day one she wasn’t.
I just wish that everyone could and would work together on this. just put their beleifs aside and listn to or read what others says.
even though I have followed this from day 1 I do not know everything about this case, just enough to like I said believe she could be alive.
Thank you for answering my ?. most never do.

alittleflyonthewall said,
in September 7th, 2010 at 12:20 pm

Good morning all…I have a question; can any one help me out with? Why would LE tear out a water heater closet in the MH…to me that is something of interest. Maybe this has been discussed before and someone can share their thought on this. TIA!
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There’s nothing to actually tear out. The front panel is just usually a piece of wallpapered sheet rock that matches the rest of the wallpapered sheet rock in the place where the heater is, like mine is in the laundry room. All you have to do is remove the screws that holds the panel and then you can see inside of the water heater compartment.

Vaq, I wondered if it had to do with the holiday and no one has gotten around to updating it? But it is curious why it was even removed. jmo

In a MH is there any openings possible in the floor or a closet or laundryroom?

“Misty is the key”….why IMO what may make sence is that Misty
1. could have seen who, just like jr and thought “maybe” it was Ron moving Haleigh out of the room to her own room that has a real bed
(that you could look under), thinking nothing of it she lay there for a bit more maybe waiting on Ron to come back and get Jr to place in bed with Haleigh, so he could spend time alone w\Misty. When Ron does not come back in after a while, and Misty has dosed off for a bit , she wakes fully and getts up because she does notice a kitchen light on and the back door open, statements I think where she thought Ron had her…….might be something here with this ….wish someone could get hands on the statement from JR!

That could have been a routine.It’s been known to happen, moving kids after they are asleep for grown up time at 3am…the only time left, if you have little one.

She might have saw something… Just like JR….but maybe she is just not sure of what she saw? Is this possible?

alittleflyonthewall said,
in September 7th, 2010 at 3:41 pm

In a MH is there any openings possible in the floor or a closet or laundryroom?
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no. They remove the axles off of mobile homes so there aren’t that high. You just crawl under from the outside like you would do a house that is set up off the ground.

Only openings to outside is doors and windows. The hot water heaters are inside now. Older mobile homes you could access them from a door outside.

This scenario also could support that allegation of some weird dream Misty had about more pl there in trailer, iirc she did state this was during a dream, while be questioned…..Mean while she waited for Ron to come back in for JR, she dosed back off and her subconscious picks this up and runs with a more frightening threat, as dreams will do; then she is wide awake all of the sudden and gets up to investigate what has happened. I think this is very possible due to the pill popping Misty is now Famous for. Confusion, very real dreams, inability to recall details, inability to articulate…and ect…..

Thank you so much Tobias for the info on JVM.

Ron giving new info to give a new timeline in Haleighs disappearance.??????

I am sure she will, Granny 23

AHA..Now AH says there were only 25 calls made from Ron to Misty-gee, we already knew that.
And Misty is the Key, from Ron, according to Artie.
What a bombshell..LOL!

tHAT FOOTAGE IN THE COURT ROOM WAS SOMETHING WASNT IT? UNLIKE ALL THE OTHERS RON SEEM GLEEFUL ALMOST. JMO

Tobias, he has done interviews saying that he does not believe Misty knows anything! All of a sudden facing a long prison sentence he NOW says Misty is the key!
What in the world was Art trying to get at about Rons sentencing hearing at the end of this month?

I get what you’re saying about Ron and ‘gleeful’ but I took it as more of glad to be out of his cell, see normal people (his family was there). But than who knows why he looked cheerful and a bit , well, happy even. So maybe ‘gleeful’ was the right description.

The period for AH was awfully darn short/quick. Moved right on to a different story, no panel discussion…unless I turned it off too soon. I can only stand so much of JVM.

I was not sure it is a ‘new’ timeline as much as expanding and clarify of the known one. While LE can obtain the phone records, can they also retrieve text messages?

From what was reported by others the time line runs weeks or a month before Haleigh went missing so you have to wonder what went on that could have any importance. I have my theories it has to do with drug involvement and thats why all of them lied about the time lines. jmo

iirc I saw Haleighs room in footage and she has a bed on a bed frame in that room. She had her own room, that would have been a must given to Ron by DCF. Seperate rooms for the kids and that is the only room I saw fixed to the nine for a girly girl.

Most people are being reasonable in the comment section. However we still seem to have some troublemakers. I hate to do this, but Jan and I cannot act as ‘hall monitors’ 24 hours a day. I have decided to close the thread for tonight. Our forum is open, and I do hope that you will join us there.

Simon