Thanks for the article Jan. What do you make of the “bond posting” entry on 6/24/2010 9:34 AM on Tommy’s Booking Details?

that was for the gun theft of Mr Martin, it was no bond. He pled guilty and got timed served so that case is over and done with so basically it’s over and he doesn’t need a bond for that charge any longer.

I wonder why hardy wants tommy there?

Vaq, did you go and look at the log? It shows a bond posted today. It does not state how much. What do you think that is about?

FROM THE ARTICLE ABOVE: “Sheriff Hardy now says that the authorities are saying this is now a homicide and they think she was killed after the last search in April when they had the team of divers at the Shell Harbour boat ramp to the St Johns River. The search lasted three days.”

HUH? So they think she was alive until they did this last search? Killed AFTER that search? AFTER Misty, Ron and Tommy were all locked up? Is there an official press release out from SH about this? What did I miss or did I just misunderstand the above statement? Anyone?

Hi Folks,
This is just my opinion, but I am starting to think maybe it is the Sheffields with assistance from PSCO.

Denise, what type of assistance do you think PSCO gave?

And by PSCO I am assuming you meant PCSO (Putnam County Sheriff’s Office), if that is not who you meant then what does PSCO stand for?

JB I read the article just like you did. If they think HaLeigh was killed after the search then Misty and the others in jail can’t have a part in her being missing. Maybe that is why Tommy has a bond now?

I am not sure exactly. Maybe with the cover up or to keep everyone looking at the wrong people. I have to agree that these people do not seem that smart as to be able to keep this quiet for so long.

Thank you so much Jan.I wanted to know what you thought about all of this.An i see your thinking as i am.I

If Tommy is facing drug charges in another county; Does one county take into consideration that he has already been senenced to time in another county?

Denise, if you think PCSO is involved what would their reason be? Why would they help in a cover up?

John W, Tommy is not facing any other charges. Misty has charges in two different counties, all of Tommy’s have always been only in Putnam County.

I agree jaba regarding the 911 call.

Jaba @ 2:38pm Totally agree!

Miss Betty – I think you and I just read the article incorrectly. I don’t think Jan meant that SH thought Haleigh was killed AFTER that last search. But it about gave me a coronary!

Well folks, at least we have something new to discuss. It may not be the news we want but at least there is “movement” on this case….albeit the movement of Tommy from one jail to another. Better than nothing I guess! LOL

So do we think something else is up? Perhaps another reason why Tommy was moved? Will he be in GP? With Ron?

JB you are too funny.LOL!! I am not sure what is going on. I hope someone will help explain it soon!! I took it as it was for that charge, but Vaq said that one was done and over with. Confused! as I said!!

That is what I thought too LadieSadie. I hope I read that right!

lfj – I think some of us just read it wrong. I think it was the way you said it was…that AFTER the search SH made the statement that they believed Haleigh was dead….not that she killed after the search. But yes, it got my blood pumping, that is for sure.

So I wonder if Ronnie and Tommy will get to room together! LOL

So what the heck did Tommy steal that was $100,000 dollars or more? Did I miss something or am I once again reading this wrong?! LMAO

JB- now if only we can make it happen? Are all the cells inFlorida jails 2 person cells? In CA, some are but the greater majority of inmates are in Pods!

Alex – well, Ronnie and Tommy are two peas in a pod so put them in a pod together and may the best pea win! ROFLMAO

JB@ 2:55 ROFLMAO!!!!

On the Tommy charge of “LARC GRAND 1ST DEGREE 100K DOLS MORE OR LEO SEMI”, I think the part that pertained to Tommy was the LEO SEMI, has something to do with stealing a semi automatic weapon.

Tommy stole an old revolver from the old man not a semi automatic.

nevermind ya’ll are talking about the other charges

John W. Sharpe, we don’t know for sure what Tommy supposedly said is even true. He has done the same as Misty has with his explanation of what happened and no one seems to believe her so what should we believe anything Tommy says, or what his lawyer says he said. They are all covering something, I can see that but are any of those in jail REALLY responsible for Haleigh’s disappearance?

looking for Justice said,
in June 24th, 2010 at 2:36 pm

I am still stuck on the jail log where it states bond posted with todays date. Tommy is still incarcerated in Putnam at this time so I am not sure what the bond posted was for.CONFUSED!! and why they broought him to Putnam until his sentencing July 6th 2010
—————
that is for the theft of the gun from Mr Martin, he pled guilty and got time served so the case is closed.

He was given a zero bond after the drug arrests in Jan. PCSO said since he was in trouble before they changed it to zero bond when he had a bond for it before. That way he couldn’t bond out.

misty sent a letter with allegations in it.

Sorry grabbed the wrong statute, Tommy’s was 2(a)1 not 2(b). Here is 2(a)1

(2)(a)1. If the property stolen is valued at $100,000 or more or is a semitrailer that was deployed by a law enforcement officer; or

2. If the property stolen is cargo valued at $50,000 or more that has entered the stream of interstate or intrastate commerce from the shipper’s loading platform to the consignee’s receiving dock; or

3. If the offender commits any grand theft and:

a. In the course of committing the offense the offender uses a motor vehicle as an instrumentality, other than merely as a getaway vehicle, to assist in committing the offense and thereby damages the real property of another; or

b. In the course of committing the offense the offender causes damage to the real or personal property of another in excess of $1,000,

Jan Tommy’s lawyer made public staements concerning what Tommy told LE then he has him plead to drug charges. His actions are suspect. This judge and prosecutor may be displeased with him whether he lied or not.

If anyone wants to get TC out, you can do it for 10% of $107,508.00. That is his current bond according to PCSO. I just went online and looked him up under jail inmates in Putnam County. The $100,000 is for the drug charges, and other charges carry $5,004 and $2,504 each.
Don’t everybody crowd around at once to cut him loose!.

Tobie – I wouldn’t pay a dang cent to get that boy out of jail! LOL

Vas It doesn’t exactly matter if Tommy was lying or not. What he said itself is enough to piss off police, prosecutors and judges.

vaquera – excellent!

Vaq / Jan – even IF you believe Tommy and/or Misty, WHICH story would you believe? There have been so many!

Let’s see….we have:

1) I don’t know nuttin’
2) A man in black in the doorway
3) I saw Tommy in the doorway
4) Joe and Tommy came to steal the gun and Joe took Haleigh in a fit of rage
5) Joe didn’t have anything to do with it
6) I wasn’t at the trailer that night
7) Okay, I did go by the trailer that night but Misty wasn’t home
8) Okay, I really wasn’t at the trailer and I only said that to get LE off my back
9) The Mexicans did it – A Mexican by the name of Larry…okie dokie
10) There were four people in black
11) I had a dream (yeah, you and Martin Luther King)
12) They need to look at Ron
13) I’ve told all I know
14) I know nothing…again

He didn’t steal anything worth $100,000 or more, that is just the bond for his drug charges.

I KNOW! Tommy stole a Semi truck full of dish soap headed to police headquarters! Perhaps he could have stolen some laundry soap while he was at it so Misty didn’t have to do laundry without it! LMAO

Alex — You are right. I went back and read the charges. Tried to call the PCSO jail, but I get a recording. Guess everybody is busy.

812.014-2a1 LARC GRAND 1ST DEGREE 100K DOLS MORE OR LEO SEMI F F $2,504.00

Tobie – so why does it have two lines (one with a bond of $2504.00 and the other paid) that says grand larceny 1st degree $100,000 dollars or more or Law enforcement semi? To me that indicates he stole something worth $100,000 or more OR worth $50,000 or more from a LE semi….see LadySadie’s post below:

******************

LadySadie said,in June 24th, 2010 at 3:21 pm Sorry grabbed the wrong statute, Tommy’s was 2(a)1 not 2(b). Here is 2(a)1

(2)(a)1. If the property stolen is valued at $100,000 or more or is a semitrailer that was deployed by a law enforcement officer; or

2. If the property stolen is cargo valued at $50,000 or more that has entered the stream of interstate or intrastate commerce from the shipper’s loading platform to the consignee’s receiving dock; or

3. If the offender commits any grand theft and:

a. In the course of committing the offense the offender uses a motor vehicle as an instrumentality, other than merely as a getaway vehicle, to assist in committing the offense and thereby damages the real property of another; or

b. In the course of committing the offense the offender causes damage to the real or personal property of another in excess of $1,000,

******************

I think they’ve got the wrong charges posted for him. I don’t think he’s smart enough to be able to steal something worth over $100,000. JMO

This really amazes me. I know the police are leaning on Misty and her brother for information on what happened to Haleigh but I honestly can’t help but wonder if Misty, Ronald and Tommy are really smart enough or experienced enough to plan out a story that could cover up any wrong doings on their part involving Haleigh for this long. Sorry but I am just not buying it.
—————————————-

Great article Jan! Thank you!

I totally agree. Particularly with the above paragraph. I am not buying it either.

Lynny – what “WHY”? WHY they moved Tommy? Why they’ve lied? Why Haleigh is missing? Why what? LOL

ME – can you make any sense of Tommy’s charges? We’re bamboozled trying to make heads or tails out of this mess. HELP!

Alex – well, DANG, the last I heard the boy broke into someone’s house and stole some cleaning supplies and video games…..now he’s got charges of grand larceny for over $100,000? I don’t think so! LOL

Tobie (Girl) said,
in June 24th, 2010 at 3:41 pm

Bond posted $0.00 means nobody posted any bond at all — all bonds are still in effect.
————————
when Tommy was arrested for the gun theft charges his bond was 2504 and he bonded out till trial. When he got busted for the drug selling in Jan. PCSO revoked his bond on that charge which made it zero so he couldn’t bond back out. Even if someone paid all his bonds to get out of jail he couldn’t have because he had a zero(which just means no bond) on the gun theft.that case is now over, he pled guilty and got time served so that is why it shows the bond paid.

JB – omg…. OMG!

That is such the truth… none to be had out of the mouths of anyone with the last name Croslin!

ME – I’m thinking it has to be an error of some kind because that charge doesn’t fit the crime unless he has done a crime that we don’t know about! But there are even TWO lines of charges that are the same and BOTH state the same thing! STRANGE! You’d think they’d want to make sure every i was dotted and t crossed…no boo boos! Too many folks watching this case!

Alex – LOL – Knowing Tommy’s luck, someone would tell him there is a truckload of cleaning supplies he could go steal to make drugs….he’d do it and then find out it was a truckload of sponges! ROFLMAO

Jan,
Good article. Makes you think. If Misty really was not home that night and went out party and left those children unattended, then anyone could have came into that home and took Haliegh. No sign of her, no blood, no evidenced whatsoever, good point. I think it should be seriously considered. Like you said, these people are not the brightest bulbs in the chandlier, could they murder/dispose of a child and cover themselves so well. The saying goes:two can keep a secret if one is dead. However the theory is:there are atleast three or more ppl involved in this, and not one has slipped up yet, and at least two of them are sitting in jail for lesser crimes, that they could get out of if they were to talk. Do we all really buy that? Something to think about. Great article Jan!

I don’t think it was as hard as we make the ‘perfect crime’ to happen. A 5 year old isn’t hard to dominate physically without leaving a trace.

Keeping quiet through all of this for the ones who know, harder but if they themself/selves did it, they have a lot to keep quiet about or there will be a murder charge on there head.

Imo, who knows, with all the empty pockets of evidence being shared with the public, could be an alien abduction.

Where is CathyJo63?

Alex – AMEN! If Tommy, Misty and/or Ron aren’t guilty then get on with the drug charges, be fair with them and FIND the person who did this to Haleigh. Or better yet, find Haleigh alive and well and BRING HER HOME!

Maybe they moved Tommy to see if he is truly afraid of Ronald. Or maybe they have a snitch to see what Tommy and Ronald say to each other. Ronald was warned by his mother that she was told the jail had a snitch.

Well, I guess all jail’s have a snitch or two trying to get a deal.

Do any of you remember the John Smith Case?
His brother kept John’s secret for I beleive about 20 years, always gnawing at him until he finally gave John up! So sometimes people can keep secrets!

Alex, But eventually he gave him up right, so in all actuality he didnt keep the secret.

I think if Tommy knew anything he would have told by now unless he is the guilty one.

Lady,

I totally agree.

Maybe I watch too many crime shows, but I was under the impression that cops can use trickery to get a confession.

Anyone care to ponder how long we would have waited on any of these three to ‘slip up’ and say something outside of incarceration?

What should LE have done with these three specifically? Surveilance? Wiretap? Insider?

How much could they spend in resources and manpower with all the other crime they try and get solved?

Criminals aren’t very open about things and lie all the time.

From all I’ve read about both sides of families here are ‘hiders’.

Real, hard evidence hasn’t been found, that we know of. Big IF. LE has things we don’t know about that might change our Theories of who dun’ it. Imo

It IS legal for cops to lie and use trickery to obtain confessions. They can tell one suspect another suspect has already confessed, they can say they have witnesses, they can say just about anything….and they generally do.

I don’t think it is necessarily wrong for them to do this but I think they take it to extremes, question people for WAY too many hours and break them down and intimidate them into false confessions which defeats the whole purpose of “seeking justice”.

The point isn’t just to arrest and convict “someone” but to arrest and convict the GUILTY party. I understand the passion LE has for obtaining justice but in their zeal I think they make mistakes….just like we do in our theories. Most of us are pretty sure in our guts that we know what happened to Haleigh and we’re very passionate about it. But we can’t all be right. It is no different with LE. They get tunnel vision too and they step over boundaries they should never cross in an attempt to give justice to the victims.

Alex – Yes, perhaps a couple of sewer rats crawling out of the crap hole in the corner would get Misty, Tommy and Ronnie boy to talk! LOL Good Grief! Misty wrote to the governor over the food. Think what she’d do over being in a prison like that! LOL

Thank you for the post Jan. As always, your fair and to the point. I agree, they are not smart enough to out smart LE unless LE is asleep at the wheel. I have racked my brain and can come up with nothing. If the Croslin’s are not involved, who on earth is? A sex offender? They interviewed all of them to my knowledge…am thinking that LE belives that they have the guilty ones in jail:( I only wish Haleigh could be found and this could be put to rest! So very frustrating!
Lest we forget LE knows more than we do, I hope!

JB@4:52pm- totally agree

Gotta go all! Take care, hugs to all and GOOD NIGHT! God Bless Haleigh!

Bye JB.

Alexandria,

IMO, PCSO has had severe tunnel vision and now they’d be too embarrassed to change tact after all the bold public statements they’ve made. Which is why I really wish they’d get fresh LE involved.

It could be that HaLeigh was taken by someone who is not a registered SO. It could be someone that has never been caught or a first time offender.

Perhaps Misty was gone and doesn’t know what happend. Tommy could be making up stories to get out of jail like he did when he said he was there and knocked on the door and no one was home. The rest of his stories could have been made up to give LE something and he just wanted out so badly that he went into fiction mode.

I feel like something is not right with Ronald and his fake crying so perhaps he thinks she was “stole” because of a drug deal gone bad and he really doesn’t know the truth.

Maybe none of them know the truth.

Makes ya wonder more though now being as and tn went to the search!

bot too,If ron had told the truth from the start,about knowing who may have done this? Do they really believe she may have been killed after?

jaba said,in June 24th, 2010 at 4:59 pm There are so many

holes in the case

its hard to know how on track any theories really are.
So much unknown.

The biggest, What happened to Haleigh?
************************
Exactly,not who dealt drugs!

Tobias,Doesn’t take brains to say,I don’t know either!

But they need to be punished for their drug trafficking like anyone else, imo, anyway.

Tunnel vision…Misty saying they need to look at somebody else! Misty also saying she thought Joe had something to do with it, early on. I agree a fresh set of several eyes needs to look at this case from the very beginning. This and all the other missing cases have gone on for too long. Just not enough LE hours and man power for them:( So sad.

I dont get the need to seperate Tommy from the others in jail unless they mean some of the inmates in with him at St. Johns. He didnt have contact with Misty or Donna all the time he has been there. jmo

I thought I read that Ron and Crystal could go to court now and have her declared dead. And they decided together not to do that and not to have any service either. jmo

Could they have moved him so he could get visits from Lisa since she cant leave the county? He will get to visit with her before he is sentenced and sent off to prison . jmo

Maybe they did move Tommy so his mother can visit him in exchange for a snippet of the truth from him.

Did we ever figure out where hank and lisa are living for sure?

Sorry. I forgot to include LadyonaMission @ 5:46. I agree with what you said.
And I think it’s good that we question and still demand results rather than blindly trust, you know? The old checks and balances system.

m2c, post @ 6:04, that’s a good way of putting it, “checks and balance system.”

I’ve been reading articles written soon after Haleigh disappeared and found a couple of things that relate to some topics mentioned here recently.

Alexandria, about the SOs:

Fox news.com Feb 13, 2009
Quotes from the early days:
(investigators questioned 44 sex registered sex offenders:
“All the sex offenders have been interviewed and their residences have been searched,” said Putnam County Sheriff Jeff Hardy. “They’re cleared as far as us contacting them and speaking to them.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,492425,00.html?loomia_ow=t0:s0:a16:g12:r1:c0.834053:b25421466:z6

Fox news.com Feb 13, 2009

- – -
Note the qualifier: “as far as us contacting them and speaking to them.” That’s not the same as “clearing” so maybe we got the wrong idea back then although I have not heard about LE pursuing that track.

Also the context in which R said, “Somebody stole my child.” (see below) It was to stress that he did not think she wandered off on her own.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,491008,00.html

Cummings, who has custody of Haleigh and her brother Junior, said his daughter was scared of the dark and would not wander off.
“Somebody stole my child,” he said. “Trust me when I tell you that I know my child.”

Usually it is 10% and the bail bond company wants collateral for the rest.

For someone who has committed grand theft to be tried for a felony, proof must be given that the accumulated value of any items stolen is worth a set value. If they are found to be under that value, then he or she may be charged with a misdemeanor. An item’s value may be hard to prove if it was not insured, especially since stolen property is often not recovered. When it is recovered, damage may have occurred, thus altering the overall value if the plaintiff cannot prove the damage was done after the robbery occurred.

Tommy may get off on a misdemeaner on these charges because the value of the items are not $100,000 like the charges say.jmo

to me it is quoting a statute. grand larceny (over one hundred thousand) OR a semi automatic fire arm. He fits the bill for the semi automatic. one statute can cover more than one offense and every thing in it does not have to apply. jmo

Good evening…

just checking in.. I have read, read, and re-read…. please someone explain to me:

WHO are the two people this is going to hurt??? (Per Misty) and

WHY WHY WHY did Misty, Tommy, and Joe’s grandmother
go on national tv and say that both Tommy and Misty pretty much told her what happened? She gave details, she gave locations, she talked about rape…

I can’t get past any of the above statements. If there is ANY shred of evidence in any of these statements….

all three of these people know/knew, and are guilty….

or…. maybe Tommy cracked and spilled it..

I was hoping Nancy Grace would have some sort of update.. anything.. but it’s all still about VanDerSloot…. dang

what is the BE?

cat, I think grand larceny is an amount of $1,000 or more.
= = =

Cate at 6:07 pm you asked: “Is it going to take seven years? Oh, I hope not!”

Do you mean being able to get the Sunshine Law applied? I hope not too. It’s not a matter of a set amount of time passing, as I understand it. It’s more that the case is at a stand still, no new leads, it’s gone cold. But getting PCSO to admit that or the state attorney general to overrule PCSO and declare it cold is the problem. One of our bloggers has tried that and it didn’t work. But maybe later on she can try again. Especially if nothing more comes out about Haleigh after all these people are sentenced.

ty, Tobias…

did you mean Lindsy helped Tommy, or she helped fine the items in her home?

She helped find the items and her name is on the incident report as a witness. jmo

In Florida if the value is over 300 but less then 5000 it is grand larceny of the third degree.

For someone who has committed grand theft to be tried for a felony, proof must be given that the accumulated value of any items stolen is worth a set value. If they are found to be under that value, then he or she may be charged with a misdemeanor. An item’s value may be hard to prove if it was not insured, especially since stolen property is often not recovered. When it is recovered, damage may have occurred, thus altering the overall value if the plaintiff cannot prove the damage was done after the robbery occurred.

any more update on Lindsy filing for divorce?

I think conviction of a 3rd degree felony can get you 5 years in prison.

I got the info off the PCSD booking site, He was booked and his charges are there. jmo

lindsy/divorce filing? anyone?

But his lawyer will get that thrown out because without the shot gun they cant prove it. Dont like it but its what will happen. jmo

According to his docket its an add on of possession, dont know what it will do to the 3 year min. /30 year max. charge???? jmo

And I am real curious about the video of Tommy, we havent seen one and according to the incident reports he wasnt in the UC car. He went all over to find the drugs and I think they ended up at the McDonalds in the end. I dont think he got very many pills either. Wished I could remember where I saw the incident report for him. Its not with the ones on BNN. Maybe it was at sky news? jmo

Sadie, Thats why I am bracing myself ,in case I get shocked that he gets only 2 1/2 years.
He should get charged for the lies he told. jmo

Well gotta get up early for work. Good night everyone.

I agree tobias, Lindsy will probably go ahead with the divorce, let her grandpa support her and the kids while Tommy is in prison, play around a bit (or a lot), then as soon as Tommy is free go running back to him.

LOL, yea CathyJo, Tommy could get out for about 12 days then be sent off to prison. That is if anyone could come up with the 10%, LOL, don’t think that is going to happen.

Lindsey better hope not,imo Lady,omg

A comma missing in a sentence, can change the entire reading and meaning of it.

Tommy is cutting deals for information, in my opinion. OR could be that his life was threatened where he was at. OR maybe wanted to get him away from Misty and all the talking going on within the place.
It could also keep Misty from feeling threatened when Tommy gets charged and tries to blame it on Misty for telling?

Who knows.

Evening everyone.

I don’t think Hank and Lisa have $10750.80 laying around, same goes for Timmy or Lindsy.

Now the eighty cents they might be able to come up with, anyone want to donate $10750?

LOL, Padilla bought her a $250 pc, with a months wireless thrown in.

AND A CAM LADY!

my little man wants mamam’s puter,bbl

I’m really thinking that Hardy moved Tommy because they have finalized Tommy’s deal and Hardy doesn’t want any of Tommy’s phone conversations released.

Or Kate, Sheriff Shoar got sick of all the media requests and said take one back, dealing with one of the nuts is enough.

LOL Lady Sadie!!!

So have we come to a conclusion about what Tommy’s 6/24/2010 bond post means? If that is the charge that has already been dealt with, time already served and $638 (or something) fine, then why is it dated today?

Cate (aka Kate) said,
in June 24th, 2010 at 9:18 pm

So have we come to a conclusion about what Tommy’s 6/24/2010 bond post means? If that is the charge that has already been dealt with, time already served and $638 (or something) fine, then why is it dated today?

*****

Paperwork finally got processed today and entered into the computer today? At least that is what I think.

Well, from what we have seen with paperwork mistakes from LE (both on Haleigh and Caylee cases), I don’t doubt there is wrong information on this too.

Other reasons he could of been moved…lol.

Tommy was moved because he questioned the validity of the LDT machine where he was.
Tommy’s complaint letter to the Govenor got him a double bed at his new place.
Tommy was moved because Lyndsy found out he was having an affair with his cellmate.
Tommy was moved because he needed a change of cell scenery.

Sorry, just being goofy.

Really, really, really releived to read these good things about Sheriff Shoar!

Hi Cathy Jo, I am doing pretty good. Just trying to figure out all this new info. I wonder if any thing will ever pan out with tommys version about what happened. If it does, will they charge lindsey for obstructing justice, because tommy told GH that lindsey already knew the story. Just curious about that. LE could go felony on that if they wanted. It would be a shame for her to finally get away from tommy only to end up in jail (and loose her career) over an obstructing charge.

you guys are right. i bet she ends up going back with him. but she has gotta put that distance between them right now or no help from the family

I got a feeling LE might have gotten some useful info out of tommy after all. Maybe that is the reason for the jail transfer.

what makes you think tomMe would want her after seeing the party pics?..I highly doubt it..

OJ’s glove said,
in June 24th, 2010 at 9:51 pm

what makes you think tomMe would want her after seeing the party pics?..I highly doubt it..
—————
how would Tommy see them? They weren’t online very long and he has no access to computer in jail.

Cate (aka Kate) said,
in June 24th, 2010 at 9:18 pm

So have we come to a conclusion about what Tommy’s 6/24/2010 bond post means? If that is the charge that has already been dealt with, time already served and $638 (or something) fine, then why is it dated today?
———————-
they just got it online today. They seem to take awhile getting things updated

I can’t see Tommy killing anybody. And actually, one might even feel a *little* bit sorry for him. I guess maybe I tend to be harder on the woman.

Ummmm, guys have you SEEN Tommy, who else would have him? He would forgive Lindsy anything because she is just about all he can get.

alethea, she sure was trying to get her digs in at Tommy wasn’t she, LOL. Good for her, shows a little spunk.

Out of everybody on all sides of the family, Tommy is the one that I could see as most likely to be able to kill somebody. He was willing to beat up his own father over drugs. His wive had to take an order of protection out against him on behalf of her and their child. His own wife questioned if it was him regarding Haleigh. She knows him better then anybody.

Shoot, “class” ran the other way when it saw them a mile away.

There may have been hope many years ago, I see where if Hank Sr. had not gotten involved with Lisa, there might have been a very, very, slight chance for him to have turned into a decent man. But for some reason Lisa was Hank’s “Delilah”, and we now see the results of that failure.

Is Lindsy older or younger than Tommy? Tommy is 23 and they have an 8 year old son, which means that Tommy was 15 when Austin was born, how old was Lindsy?

Well it is getting late here in the Sunshine State, time to hit the hay. Chat with you all tomorrow.

Wow, 15 with a kid. Bet that was something else. Kid having a kid.

Hey everyone!!!

I’m thinking that the reason PCSO put tommy in Putnum with Ron is strategic, to try and get either of them talking… or I could be giving them to much credit, I hope not , I hope that they are still running an active investigation to find out what happend to HaLeigh

Bio-Hazzard- I always wondered if Hank was getting pain medication and it was helping him but his kids or Lisa may have gotten into it so he required more because he couldn’t keep them away from it! Just so sad because Hank seems like the one in this mess that truly wants to work for an homest living!

there is a holiday between here and Tc’s sentencing, maybe there is no significance to moving him now beyond just getting the tranfer done ahead of time.

Last night there was a few bloggers from Putnum county said the news papers are not including daily articles on Haleigh. One ladies next door neighbor had no idea of Haleigh’s case. these new high profile cases will pull what little coverage there is away. These families will be able to work with there real names in a month. The publics attention is often short and new cases come along. We need to keep this case followed some one posted sheriff Shoar email address to ask status of case.

The Dr.s make me madder than the addicts! They should be punished! The “DOCTOR” that KILLED (IMO) Michael Jackson (IMO) should be locked away for LIFE !!! IMO As for ANna Nicoles “Doctor” and Heath Ledgers “Docter” and Brittney Murphy’s “Doctor” and Corey Haims “Doctor” They should all be SCRUTINIZED and punished.

mrms- amen!

Lillymae- I think that is the date of the offence, the date he dealt drugs with Misty

OJ- I agree but even though jon bennets parents were exhonerated their lives were still ruined, and Patsy ended up dead, its just terrible

This is the Florida Statute specific to th charge today that has a 0 by it.

THEFT, ROBBERY, AND RELATED CRIMES
812.014 Theft.–

(1) A person commits theft if he or she knowingly obtains or uses, or endeavors to obtain or to use, the property of another with intent to, either temporarily or permanently:

(a) Deprive the other person of a right to the property or a benefit from the property.

(b) Appropriate the property to his or her own use or to the use of any person not entitled to the use of the property.

(2)(a)1. If the property stolen is valued at $100,000 or more or is a semitrailer that was deployed by a law enforcement officer; or

2. If the property stolen is cargo valued at $50,000 or more that has entered the stream of interstate or intrastate commerce from the shipper’s loading platform to the consignee’s receiving dock; or

3. If the offender commits any grand theft and:

a. In the course of committing the offense the offender uses a motor vehicle as an instrumentality, other than merely as a getaway vehicle, to assist in committing the offense and thereby damages the real property of another; or

b. In the course of committing the offense the offender causes damage to the real or personal property of another in excess of $1,000,

the offender commits grand theft in the first degree, punishable as a felony of the first degree, as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.

(b)1. If the property stolen is valued at $20,000 or more, but less than $100,000;

2. The property stolen is cargo valued at less than $50,000 that has entered the stream of interstate or intrastate commerce from the shipper’s loading platform to the consignee’s receiving dock;

3. The property stolen is emergency medical equipment, valued at $300 or more, that is taken from a facility licensed under chapter 395 or from an aircraft or vehicle permitted under chapter 401; or

4. The property stolen is law enforcement equipment, valued at $300 or more, that is taken from an authorized emergency vehicle, as defined in s. 316.003,

the offender commits grand theft in the second degree, punishable as a felony of the second degree, as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084. Emergency medical equipment means mechanical or electronic apparatus used to provide emergency services and care as defined in s. 395.002(9) or to treat medical emergencies. Law enforcement equipment means any property, device, or apparatus used by any law enforcement officer as defined in s. 943.10 in the officer’s official business. However, if the property is stolen within a county that is subject to a state of emergency declared by the Governor under chapter 252, the theft is committed after the declaration of emergency is made, and the perpetration of the theft is facilitated by conditions arising from the emergency, the theft is a felony of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084. As used in this paragraph, the term “conditions arising from the emergency” means civil unrest, power outages, curfews, voluntary or mandatory evacuations, or a reduction in the presence of or response time for first responders or homeland security personnel. For purposes of sentencing under chapter 921, a felony offense that is reclassified under this paragraph is ranked one level above the ranking under s. 921.0022 or s. 921.0023 of the offense committed.

(c) It is grand theft of the third degree and a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084, if the property stolen is:

1. Valued at $300 or more, but less than $5,000.

2. Valued at $5,000 or more, but less than $10,000.

3. Valued at $10,000 or more, but less than $20,000.

4. A will, codicil, or other testamentary instrument.

5. A firearm.

6. A motor vehicle, except as provided in paragraph (a).

7. Any commercially farmed animal, including any animal of the equine, bovine, or swine class, or other grazing animal, and including aquaculture species raised at a certified aquaculture facility. If the property stolen is aquaculture species raised at a certified aquaculture facility, then a $10,000 fine shall be imposed.

8. Any fire extinguisher.

9. Any amount of citrus fruit consisting of 2,000 or more individual pieces of fruit.

10. Taken from a designated construction site identified by the posting of a sign as provided for in s. 810.09(2)(d).

11. Any stop sign.

12. Anhydrous ammonia.

However, if the property is stolen within a county that is subject to a state of emergency declared by the Governor under chapter 252, the property is stolen after the declaration of emergency is made, and the perpetration of the theft is facilitated by conditions arising from the emergency, the offender commits a felony of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084, if the property is valued at $5,000 or more, but less than $10,000, as provided under subparagraph 2., or if the property is valued at $10,000 or more, but less than $20,000, as provided under subparagraph 3. As used in this paragraph, the term “conditions arising from the emergency” means civil unrest, power outages, curfews, voluntary or mandatory evacuations, or a reduction in the presence of or the response time for first responders or homeland security personnel. For purposes of sentencing under chapter 921, a felony offense that is reclassified under this paragraph is ranked one level above the ranking under s. 921.0022 or s. 921.0023 of the offense committed.

(d) It is grand theft of the third degree and a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084, if the property stolen is valued at $100 or more, but less than $300, and is taken from a dwelling as defined in s. 810.011(2) or from the unenclosed curtilage of a dwelling pursuant to s. 810.09(1).

(e) Except as provided in paragraph (d), if the property stolen is valued at $100 or more, but less than $300, the offender commits petit theft of the first degree, punishable as a misdemeanor of the first degree, as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.

(3)(a) Theft of any property not specified in subsection (2) is petit theft of the second degree and a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083, and as provided in subsection (5), as applicable.

(b) A person who commits petit theft and who has previously been convicted of any theft commits a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.

(c) A person who commits petit theft and who has previously been convicted two or more times of any theft commits a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.

(d)1. Every judgment of guilty or not guilty of a petit theft shall be in writing, signed by the judge, and recorded by the clerk of the circuit court. The judge shall cause to be affixed to every such written judgment of guilty of petit theft, in open court and in the presence of such judge, the fingerprints of the defendant against whom such judgment is rendered. Such fingerprints shall be affixed beneath the judge’s signature to such judgment. Beneath such fingerprints shall be appended a certificate to the following effect:

“I hereby certify that the above and foregoing fingerprints on this judgment are the fingerprints of the defendant, _____, and that they were placed thereon by said defendant in my presence, in open court, this the _____ day of _____, (year) .”

Such certificate shall be signed by the judge, whose signature thereto shall be followed by the word “Judge.”

2. Any such written judgment of guilty of a petit theft, or a certified copy thereof, is admissible in evidence in the courts of this state as prima facie evidence that the fingerprints appearing thereon and certified by the judge are the fingerprints of the defendant against whom such judgment of guilty of a petit theft was rendered.

(4) Failure to comply with the terms of a lease when the lease is for a term of 1 year or longer shall not constitute a violation of this section unless demand for the return of the property leased has been made in writing and the lessee has failed to return the property within 7 days of his or her receipt of the demand for return of the property. A demand mailed by certified or registered mail, evidenced by return receipt, to the last known address of the lessee shall be deemed sufficient and equivalent to the demand having been received by the lessee, whether such demand shall be returned undelivered or not.

(5)(a) No person shall drive a motor vehicle so as to cause it to leave the premises of an establishment at which gasoline offered for retail sale was dispensed into the fuel tank of such motor vehicle unless the payment of authorized charge for the gasoline dispensed has been made.

(b) In addition to the penalties prescribed in paragraph (3)(a), every judgment of guilty of a petit theft for property described in this subsection shall provide for the suspension of the convicted person’s driver’s license. The court shall forward the driver’s license to the Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles in accordance with s. 322.25.

1. The first suspension of a driver’s license under this subsection shall be for a period of up to 6 months.

2. The second or subsequent suspension of a driver’s license under this subsection shall be for a period of 1 year.

(6) A person who individually, or in concert with one or more other persons, coordinates the activities of one or more persons in committing theft under this section where the stolen property has a value in excess of $3,000 commits a felony of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.

OJ, I agree for the most part. I don’t believe that she did anything accept withhold info that LE needs. She might not even have done that. She is just a kid. I hardly think putting her in prison for the better part of her life is going to solve anything. I wish if this little girl did know anything she would just come clean with it. The longer she sits behind bars, the less I think that she knows anything unless she is blinded by love or scared to tell what she does know.

CathyJo- Tommy standards! lol

off the subject- Jaycee Dugard’s bio dad is suing to be able to get visitation with her!

chakra7 said,
in June 24th, 2010 at 11:44 pm

Lillymae- I think that is the date of the offence, the date he dealt drugs with Misty
______________________________________________

But that would be almost a month prior to the arrest.

Robin-YW!

Misty was raised in a “dont trust the system” “snitches get stitches” atmosphere. Too she thinks she runs with the “Big Dogs”. She can’t snitch for those reasons, and on top of it she is scared to death of someone(s) IMO

I agree mrsm!

imo lindsey was all good with lying and covering for TC until that last LDT TC took. Then LE or his lawyer (cant remember which but she says in a JH conversation)tells her something that he said (or didnt pass) during that LDT that really P***ed her off. Maybe he was with another female that nite, or maybe he left the kids alone to go to the MH for some reason, or maybe he admitted that the alibi she covered him with was false…many possibilities, but something that happened during that mast LDT made her DONE with Tommy boy. Wonder what it was??? JMHO

I still wonder what misty meant by “it will hurt two people”. This was in a jail tape.

Makes me think she knows something.

I think ron knows something he aint telling too.

Jaba – I know its baffling, I think Misty was talking about maybe Joe and Tommy ? because that was right before the story of Jo and Tommy comeing into the MH that night to steal Rons gun

I always wonder why Misty is so foggy on the events of that night , I’m at the point where I think she was not there, or was really asleep, like dead to the world passed out asleep

now really..are those major LIES?
or confusion mixed with panic?
Who cares if misty got up to pee or to get a drink of water? its all the same, a mixed up INTERROGATED teenager saying she WOKE UP AND HALEIGH WAS GONE! thats it!
everything after was coherced by LE with their torture like pressure tactics..
LE will not believe the truth so to escape the pain misty says what her interrogators want to hear..”man in black, put up with knife” and such nonsense. LE’s tactics have squeezed out the red herrings in this case..the blundering idiots!

Jaba,that’s been my question forever.. WHO are the two people??

also, for those that continue to defend Misty… yes, she was raised by wolves. no doubt.. BUT don’t be a lil punk and illegally sell prescription drugs. You are breaking the law… this is not rocket science. She completely made a choice that was ILLEGAL.. After all the trouble she has been in, get a clue and do anything to break the criminal cycle. Yet again, she made a stupid choice and now look…

IF she would have begged for help 3 months ago, she could have received it. Even being indigent, she could have gotten help through a non-profit mental health agency. People can change IF the want to.

Tommy’s booking information at best, is confusing. I don’t understand why they transferred him. An inmate usually isn’t transferred out until he/she has actually been sentenced. Tommy has only pled to the charges in St John’s County not yet been sentenced. This whole case has been too weird. I know I won’t read too much into especially the way that LE has handled this mess.

Morning, Everyone!

Hi, stilllucy! We know LE will bargain for info – like lower T’s bail far enough that he could get out for telling them he was at the MH that night (whether it’s true or not), we now have to look at everything LE does with that in mind. Is the move to PC a reward for providing info (true or not) that would enable LE to call this a homicide (info leading to river search)? Or is this a punishment for giving them info that didn’t pan out? I’m in favor of the first choice myself.

s/b why wasn’t she arrested wiyh the rest of them?

tm39- Misty is suspect #1, Kelly is suspect #2
her discription is white female, tanned, black straight hair,medium length.

I could be wrong…. Nay Nay is a redhead,but, they could be step sisters. Guess I need to double check that.
IMO Nay Nay is some how involved.

stilllucy – I agree about LE but to clarify I was referring way back to when LE reduced T’s bail on the gun charge in exchange (it seems) for the info that he was at the MH. I didn’t mean to imply that bail was a factor here. Just being transferred closer to his parents may have been a favor for him – or a punishment! Just speculating on LE’s motives and thinking – which is all we’ve ever been able to do with this case.

I agree that it doesn’t matter if Misty woke up to pee or drink.
Misty was foggy on the events of that night because she was possibly high or drinking. She may of been slipped a date rate drug. Who knows. I think she was passed out that night.
KY Mom, the sheffields or their clan could very well have Haliegh. Does not have a connection to any lies told by Misty, etc. Misty may come across as lying about somethings, but I think things are distorted due to drugs and messes up her memory. The things she told may also be connected to hiding drugs or drug use, etc and not connected to Haleigh.
The media and LE like to put a spin on everything. The washing clothes without detergent hasn’t been confirmed…Ive heard that dirty clothes were put in the dryer, etc.
Also, what Haleigh was wearing….the pink shirt was what she said she was wearing, because that was what she remembered her having on that day. It got dirty and reportedly tossed behind one of the doors in a dirty clothes pile. Again, distorted thinking or Misty was just plain traumatized by the events of that night. Then pressured by LE to answer questions, all the time being blamed by Ron for letting someone steal his child, and feeling overwhelming guilt over Haleigh being gone under her watch! That is a lot for a 17 y/o, especially one with a 6th grade education, drug abuse history, possibly hung over, and whatever else. I don’t know how any of us would function in that situation, much less how Misty has. She has held strong though, and I don’t think she has some superior capability to fool the police and fbi, etc.
Ive heard of LE forcing people or tricking them by saying, “What do you think happened to Haleigh?” You give them a theory or a thought and they go with it! Then the media says that you said something as fact when you didn’t. Example: the alligators eating Haleigh…good grief.

stilllucy, it’s too early in the morning and I need to try to write more clearly! Off for another cup of coffee. Have a great day!

Alex, I don’t know what case you are referring to. Can you give us a short description if it’s not possible to post a web site we can go to read it?
TIA.

JenM – I totally agree. There are too many possible explanations for M that night and later for me to decide any or all comments definitely indicate guilt or guilty knowledge. jmo

If you do a search for “Nay Nay writes second letter to her mom” there is a youtube video of Nay Nay’s sister Kelly reading the letter Nay Nay wrote to her mom. It was posted on youtube by DotiBump.

Kelly has dark hair not red like Nay Nay’s hair.

After Tommy’s plea on the drug charge he was finger printed. Perhaps Putnam County had another B&E with only a palm print which they took from Tommy and charged him with that yesterday.

From Tommy’s docket:

06/15/2010 50 TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRESENT, ATT BY JASON LEWIS,
06/15/2010 50 W/D FORMER PLEA, PLED NOLO TO THE LESSER OFFENSE OF
06/15/2010 50 TRESPASS OF OCCUPIED STRUCTURE (F.S. 810.08 2B)
06/15/2010 50 ADVISED OF MAX PENALTY 1 YR PCJ &/OR $1000 FINE
06/15/2010 50 PLEA ACCEPTED, PSI WAIVED, SENTENCING -
06/15/2010 50 DEFENDANT ADJUDGED GUILTY
06/15/2010 50 172 DAYS PCJ WITH 172 DAYS CREDIT
06/15/2010 50 $283 FINE AND COST
06/15/2010 50 $50 COST OF PROSECUTION
06/15/2010 50 $50.00 LAW ENFORCEMENT INVESTIGATIVE COST
06/15/2010 50 ALL COSTS ENTERED AS A CIVIL LIEN
06/15/2010 51 FINGERPRINTS OF DEFENDANT
06/15/2010 52 SUBPOENA FOR DEPOSITION RETURNED SERVED:
06/15/2010 52 M J MARTIN

Thank you, Alex! That’s fine. All we need is the web site (like First Coast News or wftv) and a date or title and we can find it! Thanks so much!
Even when someone does copy and paste all or part of an article that info should be included (for credit and also so people can go see it for themselves) so you’re on top of it!

JenM Someone said it means Law Enforcement Officer Semi Trailer.

Yeah, someone also said it meant a semi automatic that belonged to a Law Enforcement officer.

It would be great to know what it Really means.
I couldn’t find it anywhere on the internet.

Good morning Everyone!

Alex, you type that well with a pencil in your mouth? WOW, I am totally impressed!!

JenM- go up and read JB @ 6/24/10 3:49pm Read the LadySadie part (2)(a) 1. I think that’s where it came from!

Morning all. JMHO=
Does anyone know what the statute of limitation is in Putnum County on Tommy and Ron getting close to their breaking point?? I think chaos will be enough for the ‘good cop -bad cop- plan to kick it up a notch.

I am a new-be, have nothing but respect and love for anyone who can honestly care about someone else’s child. TY.

Back to Haleigh. I posted before that the case was quiet for a reason (unknown) to us. The power of prayer is beyond your’dreams. Not OUR belief. May God Bless us All.

Justice for Haleigh Justice for Haleigh

me said,in June 25th, 2010 at 3:22 am robin said,in June 24th, 2010 at 11:42 pm OJ–Was Misty 18 during the initial drug sting and what is her birthday (if you know)? I think LE did entrap Misty. I think they called her relentlessly because they knew she would be the weakest link in getting the drug sting done. This is only my opinion and her phone records could prove me wrong. But since all we have his video released and not prior phone contact between the UC and Misty, I would want to see all the contact. How did he go about finding her initially to set this up? I am so baffled by the legalities of it all. You set up an 18 year old to do over 80 years in prison and put her under 1.3 million dollar bond? ALL because you do NOT have the evidence to convict/charge her with the abduction of Haleigh? It hardly seems right to me, but who am I to say anything? JMO
——————————

I totally agree.
********************************
I concur! lol

As I’ve said many times before I’m still open to most possibilities. M, R, T, JO, T, G/S and even SO.

Sometimes people lie to cover up something else. So a lie might not have anything to do with Haleigh. Like maybe M lied to cover for being out that night or being high or some other reason. So I can’t decide guilt because someone lied. That makes it really hard! Just complicating things for myself I guess. lol!

looking for Justice said,in June 25th, 2010 at 9:31 am M2c, I agree with you that Tommy will head for the drugs again.
Your statement takes me back to the VLA video. Misty says that her life has always been bad and does not look like it is going to get any better. This wass in August 2009. Misty got robbed buying drugs after that and then caught and incarcerated for trafficking.
Misty knew she had to make different choices and chose not to. This is why she is where she is now.jmo
**********************************
This is how it will go,Tommy gets out at 2pm………at 2:05 Tommy thinks hmmmmm boy a beer sure would taste awful good right now and hey,its legal,I can buy that anywhere,2:06 Tommy goes to the beer store,gets him a 6 pk and comes home,2:10 Tommy drinks a beer which leads to another,another,another,another,then he realizes hey,I feel perty good right now,So back to the store to get him a 12 pk this time,
6 pm or somewhere along the line he thinks ahhhh hell I am gone to prison anyway,So after he calls all over hello he finds someone who just might bring it to him he smokes a joint,8pm,ahhhh hell,I need some painkillers,so he begs his dad and mom or whoever to get him some and takes him a few and he thinks about how Lindsey has treated him in jail and goes off on her,accusing and being 15 ft tall and bullet proof he’s in a drunken rage and by 9pm Here come da blue lights!
Story over!

I bet thats her sister then Tobias,NayNays?

m2c said,in June 25th, 2010 at 9:24 am JenM @ 9 am – ROFLMAO at what T said to L: that he “knows exactly what he is doing when he is high”.

That’s exactly the problem! People THINK they know what they’re doing when they’re high and really stupid people who have no intention of stopping taking drugs THINK the same thing.
Whenever T gets out he’ll head straight for the drugs again I’m sure. What a MORON.
**************************************
I dunno about all that but I have been high many times,never got behind the wheel,hurt anyone or didn’t remember??
Not ever!
I still knew the 10 Commandments! jmo

More than likely unless she never had any pills in her hand or took any money. Thats what got Hope, the backseat camera picked up her holding the pills. I think thats why she got really peed off on that phone call, she thought she had an out. jmo

Tobias,I thought we heard way before that Ron was caught coming and going to drug houses? not that it matters just never heard anything else about it!

Then again,I never did crack,or acid,heroin all that crap so i dunno what a person would be capable of there? jmo

RE: KELLY!

Misty Croslin Got Robbed!
January 28, 2010 in John H. Gohde | Tags: Casey Anthony, Hope Sykes, Misty Croslin, Misty Cummings, Orlando, PCSO, Putnam County, Putnam County Sheriff’s Office, Ronald Cummings, Satsuma | by John H. Gohde

Reading the six incident reports that were released by the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office (PCSO) reveals some interesting information about the method of operation of the Satsuma 4 Plus 1 prescription drug gang.

In all of the drug stings, an under cover officer first had to leave Misty Croslin a message on her cell phone to call him back.

Every member of the Satsuma 4 Plus 1 prescription drug gang made the fatal decision to consummate the drug transactions inside the under cover agent’s automobile. Most of the time, they actually chose to ride along with the officer inside the very car that LE had rigged up with both audio and video recording equipment. Misty Croslin usually assumed the passive role by sitting in the front passenger seat while the power player, or the person who actually sold the drugs, always sat in the rear passenger seat.

On Tuesday, December 22, 2009 at approximately 2:30 pm the famous McDonalds restaurant incident at 2627 Reid St, Palatka, Florida went down.

After the under cover officer met up with Misty and Tommy Croslin who had arrived in their own car, Tommy went to talk to an unidentified man in a Black Chevy Truck, who presumably gave him the drugs. But Tommy, also, had the opportunity to retrieve the pills that could have been hidden in some bushes.

Tommy and Misty entered the under cover agent’s car to complete the sale of 45 oxycodone pills for $750.00 whereupon both Misty and Tommy exited the car. And, drove off in their own automobile.

Then on Tuesday, January 8th, 2010 the next score went down. The under cover agent started working Misty at 2 o’clock in the morning. Misty responded that she was riding with Donna in Brock’s car. The crime duo was coming from Virginia and would be in Brunswick, Georgia at 02:23 am. They were to meet up with the under cover agent at 4 o’clock in the morning with the pills.

Misty Croslin characteristically had loose lips. Misty told the officer that she did not like to use her own cell phone. That Donna needed the money. She also started to freak out because a lot of money and a lot of pills would be involved in this transaction. Further, she did not want to get into trouble. But asked if the nice officer could please drive her back home, afterwards?

The exchange of 155 oxycodone pills for $800.00 took place in front of the Flying J Truck Stop on 950 State Rd 206, Saint Augustine, Florida. Afterward, Donna Brock immediately exited the officer’s car with the money and took off heading south.

Misty Croslin remained in the car while the officer drove the excited little girl home to 116 Tyler St, Satsuma, Florida. Because Misty was so sweet, the officer insisted on giving Misty an extra hundred dollars for brokering the transaction with Brock. Misty told him that he would be able to buy more drugs from Donna in about three months.

Then there were three more related buys that took place in early January. On the 18th of January 2010, Misty Croslin was sufficiently trained, or shall we say dumb enough, to consummate an illegal drug transaction by herself, along with a black haired white female that PCSO has only identified as Kelly. New information indicates that she is a minor and is the sister of Kristina “NayNay” Prevatt. On the first two deals, Hope Sykes, the 18-year-old simply sat in the backseat of the under cover agent’s car and did virtually nothing but receive on the job training.

On Tuesday January 12th at approximately 10 pm Misty returns the under cover’s agent’s phone call and informs him that she had been robbed of the $100 that he had given her for brokering their last transaction. This was an unreported robbery. Apparently, Misty Croslin had wised up enough not to call 911 every time she gets robbed. Nevertheless, Misty still did not possess enough smarts to buy enough minutes for her cell phone. Seems that LE had offered to buy her minutes that night.

The officer originally requested 30 pills. But Misty and Ronald were a little short and only offered the agent 9 pills. LE was instructed to drive to 2nd Avenue, Welaka, Florida. The three clowns (Misty, Ronald, and Hope) arrived on foot with the 9 Hydrocodone pills, which were sold to LE by Ron for $65.00. The gang of three then promptly took off again on foot.

Being short on the pills, LE once again called Misty on the following day at around 4 pm. Misty returned their call and said that she had 25 pills to offer at $7.00 a piece. Ronald Cummings in the background chipped in that he did not want any more mix-ups, which apparently was in reference to the crime trio having had to take off on foot, yesterday. Perhaps, that was how Misty managed to have gotten robbed a few days ago?

CathyJo @ 10:02- totally agree Misty is protecting Ron. jmo

I did acid way back in the day like 30 some years ago, all it does is make everything funny. Could be bad if someone got hurt cause youd just laugh about it. I have never seen anyone get violent on it. I am now an old lady who doesnt even drink. lol jmo

CathyJo said,
in June 25th, 2010 at 10:11 am

In all of the drug stings, an under cover officer first had to leave Misty Croslin a message on her cell phone to call him back.

———-

And she called him back, she didn’t have to, she made the decision to call him back and deal drugs with him. Therefore she is guilty of trafficking drugs.

sure she is,Lady!
We saw it but she was a minor,same as Kelly? jmo

Then there were three more related buys that took place in early January. On the 18th of January 2010, Misty Croslin was sufficiently trained, or shall we

>>>>>>say dumb enough, <<<<<<
(Le knew she was dumb enough and a minor,jmo)

to consummate an illegal drug transaction by herself, along with a black haired white female that PCSO has only identified as Kelly. New information indicates that she is a minor and is the sister of Kristina “NayNay” Prevatt. On the first two deals, Hope Sykes, the 18-year-old simply sat in the backseat of the under cover agent’s car and did virtually nothing but receive on the job training.

They point out Kellys a minor,hmmm funny,i don’t see the statement relating to Misty! JMO

So just from the incidents where they told us about the number of drugs being trafficked (including the last bust where they were buying 200 pills from an UC) we have 434 pills, that does not include some of the incidents where the newspaper did not give a number amount of pills exchanged.

If Ron, Misty, Tommy & company did not sell these to UC (thereby getting the pills off the streets) then they would have sold them to someone else. Again what if that someone else had been a 13 year old child that overdosed and died from these pills? LE very realistically may have saved someone’s life by busting R, M, T & company.

CathyJo, Misty was

Oops, hit return too soon.

Misty was NOT a minor when any of these drug transactions took place. She had ready turned 18, thereby a legal adult.

Misty turned 18 on 12/9/2009

True, we also dont know if they were selling and/or buying from/for someone other than the UC. Who knows whatthey were up to? Tommys sideline was BE, Misty got robbed so she was up to other things too. jmo

Because it was only a few days after her 18th bday that she was arrested unless i have bee in a coma and thats possible,lol

CathyJo, she was arrested on 1/21/2010, a month and a half after she turned 18.

CathyJo- It would be interesting to see the date they first started planning the sting, it could have been before Misty turned 18.

I know she was arrested at 18…But was with the UC at 17? but I am saying the first buy??????????? or sale?????????????
Now if she was 18 yea that changes my opinion somewhat as far as drugs but i still say she is protecting ron and tn….jmo

I am certain it was Alex,my god if i have been in a fantasy land this long,i been on da werong side but no,I am sure she was 17 when they made the deals because she was arrested only after she was not a minor?? thats been my dog in the fight??

Sorry, Cathy if I had known I would have told ya a long time ago. Misty turned 18 on Dec. 9,2009 the first deal was on Dec. 22, 2009 and the last was on Jan 21 2010.jmo

CathyJo, Misty was already 18 at the time of the first UC deal. She was not “with the UC at 17″. Misty turned 18 on December 9 and the first UC deal was on December 22. Misty had been 18 for 23 days, I’m pretty sure she knew she was 18 on 12/9, I know she has a problem with math but would bet she knew when she turned 18.

Even if they started planning the sting before Misty turned 18 but did not put the plan into action until after she turned 18, SHE STILL MADE THE DECISION to deal drugs. She knew she was no longer a juvenile and if caught would be sentenced as an adult.

Misty made the decision to deal drugs, if she wanted to get her life straight and really wanted to be a upstanding citizen, it does not matter how many times someone called her asking for drugs, she had the choice to say NO. She choose to say YES.

I know that Lady,never said that,I am not defending that part,sure she knew!!!!!!!!!!
but they wanted her in jail and they set out to get it and did it anyway they could,even though Misty said repeatedly she knew nothing,they only focused on her,if Misty were my daughter or yours then it would be a little different i think,jmo

but imo it was entrapment regardless!

It doesn’t matter what happened before Misty turned 18, of her own free will she made the decision to deal in drugs after she turned 18 and became responsible for her own actions. She knew she was being watched by LE because of Haleigh’s case, and still decided to deal in drugs.

yes,ahe and ron,tommy and donna Lady!

I didn’t think you would Jaba,lol I know ya,but you cannot tell me if it weren’t for Haleigh..they’d have done this!
B/c its not true!
If they had no evidence directly,then they should have looked elsewhere,so now,if Haleigh was killed after they were in Jail?
What??
B/c they focused on them Haleighs killer gets away and if you feel good about that,go for it but I DON’t! jmo

I rest my case there Lady!
But i wanna see someone go down for HALEIGH,not a pill!! jmo

jaba said,in June 25th, 2010 at 10:43 am Adult crime = Adult time.
***********************
Jaba,see but before you asked me and OJ to prove to you that LE called her,now you know they did,right?
b/c then you said you might could see it as entrapment then?

Alexandria, I think I read that the sting took a month of planning.

exactly,Lady!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My point is,wth cares that they go down for drugs when it should be for Haleigh,now we hear she may have been killed after,that don’t upset you? it does me! jmo

I feel good about 5 dealers being punished for the crimes they plead to, or are convicted of by a trial.

She was 18 during the whole thing? Wow, didn’t know that.

Glad I know now.

If they get 100 yrs it ought to be for Haleigh,sure they havem in jail but easier to get out with less time,I am not proud of that!

Well,I am glad you do Jaba!

Allz I know is we could go on for months like this,and if yall can rest knowing it went down this way but that no one will ever pay for a 5 yr old’s life then thats fine but i know it sure don’t make me feel better!

Exactly right Tobias,exactly but keep looking for Haleigh!

If there was no other way to prove positive in court that one or all of them are guilty of Haleigh, but enough to convince LE. I could go along with it rather than see them walk like OJ for killing Ron Goldman and Nichole Simpson. jmo

It was the wording in the article that threw people off.

Jan made a comment about what she meant.

All i want is to find about Haleigh,after 2 yrs not one step closer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dealers and users everyday,I could care less until Haleigh gets Justice!
Does Haleigh deserve never to be given justice?
Oh ok,yesssss lets get them in jail for drugs and to heck with Haleighs memory,her life,and the truth,the truth will never be known!they’re gone on drugs so thats good enough!

CathyJo @ 10:41 am- I agree. Especially if the UC had call her repeatedly to get her to agree to it.
I mean come on! I know it’s all legal and she did a stupid thing and committed a crime BUT considering everything it’s really not something LE should be proud of IMO.

And CathyJo @ 10:48 I agree.

Alexandria @ 9:56 – But what if whatever they’re lying about does not eliminate them from suspicion of involvement? What if they don’t know anything about what happened to Haleigh? So what if M says she left the MH that night? What then? LE should have been looking at “what then” ALL of this time! It can be very hard to prove you’re innocent.

That BS lady!
All werent involved,only the satuma 5!!!!!!

m2c said,in June 25th, 2010 at 11:08 am CathyJo @ 10:41 am- I agree. Especially if the UC had call her repeatedly to get her to agree to it.
I mean come on! I know it’s all legal and she did a stupid thing and committed a crime BUT considering everything it’s really not something LE should be proud of IMO.

And CathyJo @ 10:48 I agree.

Alexandria @ 9:56 – But what if whatever they’re lying about does not eliminate them from suspicion of involvement? What if they don’t know anything about what happened to Haleigh? So what if M says she left the MH that night? What then? LE should have been looking at “what then” ALL of this time! It can be very hard to prove you’re innocent.

Thanks M2,and Alex,thats the point what if??????

I think anybody that has read any of the court docs or arrest logs over the past 16 months out of Putnam county is well aware that PCSO does crap about small time drug dealing. The sting was for one reason and one reason only and that was to get Misty behind bars. Misty just happened to bring the other players into the sting but as far as I can tell the UC DID NOT contact anybody except Misty. Now some people might buy what PCSO is selling but I’m not and I think when all the docs are released we are going to see first hand just how focused PCSO was on getting Misty behind bars.

Thank You Whylie,A voice of reason!

tobias said,in June 25th, 2010 at 11:08
They have only destroyed Hank and Lisa lives!

We all know they were innocent! jmo

JB @ 11:09 – I’ll go back and look but from the articles I read that were written at the time of the river search it sounded like LE DID tell the families they thought Haleigh might be dead BEFORE they searched the river. They didn’t want the family finding out thru the media when they conducted the river search.
And that is why they searched the river, hoping to find proof. I believe what prompted the river search was what someone told them – probably T, I don’t know. But it was a bust. No proof.

No they weren’t tobias,but how many times did ron get away with it?? they knew he did,found drugs on him if theeyre so worried about that problem? jmo

lol just stop,I ain’t gonna argue my point forever,just enough so I know I am defending Haleigh!

CathyJo, after Misty got robbed she left and went to Tenn for 10 days. Misty returned to Satsuma and dropped the restraining order against Tommy. Tommy and Hank Sr. got into that fight and that is when we found out that Misty and Kristina Prevatt were present at Tyler street. After that Misty went and started staying with Charles Jones jr. and his family. Misty was there until after her birthday. It was even stated that Kristina was there with Misty sometimes. After Misty turned 18th birthday Misty and Ron started seeing each other again. It was reported by a blogger named Hope that Ronald was calling Charles Jones and threatening him. Another blogger told this Hope that they were sorry for calling her a troll; that she must be Hope Sykes. Ablogger heard on the scanner around Dec. 20th that Charles Jones called LE because Ron was making threats again. I believe it had to be Charles Jones Jr. that told LE about Ron and Misty selling. I believe that is what started the motivation for the sting. Misty was not a minor when LE began orchestrating their plan.

LadySadie said,in June 25th, 2010 at 11:12 am
Not if theyre only looking at them Lady? I quit,you know very well what i mean!
I ain’t gonna argue !

Jr not in harms way,you believe that too Jaba? He’s worse imo

Sorry but Hank was caught doctor shopping and Lisa was caught with stolen checks and stealing a purse. And they have records of similar offenses before Haleigh went missing. In flagler. We cant see what else they have done because they were in other states before this and sunshine laws arent there.
Misty and Tommy have put their parents through this also. I do feel for them in the Haleigh case but they should have behaved themselves and they would not be the focus for alot of the problems they have.jmo

but they would not have Tobias?? come on??

All I am saying about the drug sting, which is evidently legal, is Misty going to receive a fair trial? And in my mind that is an unequivocal NO. Her name and her words on the jailhouse tapes and videos have basically sealed her fate. I blame LE (yes that SunShine Law) for releasing those before her constitutional right to a fair trial was even considered. For 80+ years and 1.3 million dollar bond? And if LE was worried about these pain pills getting into the hands of a 13 year old child (or anyone else for that matter) they would have arrested them after the brokering of the first transaction, not the eighth one later. It is apparent WHO they were going after and WHY. Legal as it may be doesn’t change the fact that Misty was barely of legal age and now will have to spend countless years behind bars for some penny ante drug deals at the ripe old age of 18. And with her sentence there will probably be a zero chance of finding Haleigh. And I am a firm believer if you can’t do the time don’t do the crime–but most murderers get away with less than this sentence or bond. When all is said and done with the drug trials and sentencing is complete, I do hope a fresh set of eyes looks into the Haleigh investigation and maybe one day that child will receive HER JUSTICE and the family that loves her will receive peace. That’s the LEAST LE can do for them! JMO

Did Hank Sr. commit the crime he was arrested for?

TY Robin,I am living proof of that!
6 months,maybe i should got my husbands murderer on drug charges?

Looking,I agree,IF she does!

thats a clique society teaches us,what does that mean Lady,Have you ever even told a little white fib,sure you have so you should be in jail for that??

We can only pray that Crystal gets the help she needs for her drug addiction and provides a better life for Jr and Chloe. If she doesn’t then we can only pray that DCF does their job and removes those children from the dangerous environment. What we do know is that Ron continued to not only take drugs while he had custody of Jr but he also was trafficking drugs while he had custody of Jr, placing Jr in an even more dangerous environment.

right Alex,I wondered,cause i read it but then asked and notta word,lol ty

LadieSadie , I agree.
I realize Hank and Lisa lives have been turned upside down. Misty is the one who told about her parents being drug addicts while growing up and her life being so terrible. Misty threw her parents into the spotlight. Hank and Lisa should have refrained from doctor shopping and stealing purses and checks. These crimes were committed after August 2009 when Misty threw them out there. I do have sympathy for them, but they have caused some of this themselves.jmo

Exactly right Lady and uproot him again,they should have made certain she was clean,she failed a drug test after she got custody,but still…..she has custody?

Thats my point Lady,hank shouldn’t b/c someone else did something either?

You are right. Differing points of view and tolerance for crime associated with Haleigh.

Sad fact is, the faux fab five will spend 15-25 for their crimes while Haleighs disappearance is investigated.

Hopefull a second set of eyes comes to look at the case soon. They’ll know where to find tc, mc and rc for questioning.

I am sorry if I have been rude and was scrolling and I think i was,Truly sorry but i am fed up with no justice for Haleigh!
Its a double standard…..because,ok…this man who murdered my husband in cold blood,If we had brought up his drug history there was a huge chance he’d get off for being under the influence when the crime occurred,ok? even less charges,
so we didn’t bring it up and guess what,6 months and he walked for cold blooded murder!
I think it would affect anyone the way it has me,Its unfair!

Now Lady,common ground,Thank You God!!!!!!!!!! lol was getting old,lol

jaba 11:37 am – You said, “while Haleighs disappearance is investigated.”
–
That’s what I’m afraid will not happen. LE has focused on M and then T exclusively it seems. With them locked up, it’s the end of the road for the investigation, I’m afraid. We’ll see. But I really think LE is going to close the book on this – they’ve already declared Haleigh dead so they’ve even stopped people from looking for her! And LE hopes we’ll go away. IMO

So, m2c, we don’t let LE drop the case, we continue to email and question them until they solve the case.

any single one period Lady,100000% agreed!

CathyJo said,
in June 25th, 2010 at 11:43 am

Right,I agree there too Looking but They added pressure to Misty was my point by getting her parents! jmo
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Exactly! They went out of state to get Lisa for stealing checks, pressured the victim into pressing charges, and yet PCSO does NOTHING to get Amber’s mother who ran on a ROBBERY charge.

Just because LE “hopes” we go away doesn’t mean that we will.

Tobias @ 11:08 – That’s right. We don’t know if LE has looked in any other direction or who else they’ve questioned. But given the very public nature of their concentration on M and T there is no reason to think they have seriously considered anything else.
I’m just praying the Sunshine Law will be invoked and a different group of LE put in charge if nothing happens after this group is sentenced.

BINGO WhyLie,its who they are focused on,all my point was! The whole gang is about as fittin as a buffalos hoof in a baby sock,wheres Adams,lol she loves that!

no Jr is her brother,lol j/k but i wasn’t even considering him in the mix!

M2,I have to totally agree,they’ll sweep it under the rug and pretend the drugs halted it,lol

Robin @ 11:25 am – totally agree!

Its hard not to agree with Robin,she’s always fair and teaches me alot! lol which btw ain’t too difficult when ya don’t know much noway,lol

and that sux M2,its not right!

I was waiting for OJ’S Laurel and Hardy comment,rofl Wake up OJ!

He’s letting Misty down,lol

CathyJo–You are pretty fair minded yourself. You never give yourself enough credit. As far as your husband’s case goes, have you ever considered a civil suit against his murderer? It seems you never got a fair shake in the criminal case, why not try the civil avenue? It happened in the OJ case. Just something to consider anyways if you haven’t all ready.

Well,if my billfold were thick I could,my attorney agreed to take the case for wrongful death Robin,then the 2nd meeting with her,she said she wasn’t willing to tie her time and money into it b/c if his parents left him anything at all,he’d hide it under a different name and we’d never get it,his parents are millionaires Robin,I had 113 dollars to my name when my husband passed,no insurance,nothing!Thats the truth!
He was totally disabled from a roof fall just 4 weeks when this monster took his life so didn’t even have his job!

Thank You Robin!!!!!

to be honest I sometimes think he bought my attorney too,not sure but wouldn’t surprise me after she just told me even in her opinion it was premediated murder!

I’ve learned one thing Robin but I wish i hadn’t!
Justice is money!

looking for Justice said,in June 25th, 2010 at 11:26 am “CathyJo if Crystal gets the proper help she can recover from the drug addictions…”
- – -
And if M had been anyone else, and if LE was interested in helping people (other than CS) then they could have picked her up easily on a drug charge (holding, using, buying whatever) and gotten her into the Youth Offender program or something.

What they did was like using a cannon to shoot a fly that’s been pinned to the wall. That really makes me wonder why??

Good way of putting it m2!

I just dont see where LE has given anyone a pass. We dont know anything they have done reguarding the sheffield -griffis because the publicize it. Every time some thing went on down there Chelsea was on the phone with AH. tHE MEDIA HAS NOT BEEN ON THE sHEFFIELDS OR gRIFFIS, WE DONT KNOW WHAT le HAS DONE WITH THEM BECAUSE THERE IS NO MEDIA ON IT. JMO OOPS SORRY for caps.

Why didnt the media ask Crystal about her failed drug test? To me its all about the media. LE doesnt have to tell us what they are doing as far as the Sheffield /Griffis but the media has not gone in to talk with them like they have the others. jmo

I understand that too M2c. You have to want help also. This is a sad case all around.

IMHO, if MC had not been stopped at 17 or 18, she would still be doing what she was doing at 27 or 28. She did the crime, now she can do the time.

Where is HaLeigh?

Lillymae I agree with you.We heard Misty say in the very beginning she had been hanging around with some girls that she shouldn’t and was not going to do that anymore. Misty still hung with Nay Nay , b=Brittney and the one other girl she got robbed with. We heard Misty on the VLA test talking about her terrible childhood and not thinking her life was going to get any better and her appearance on the GMA wanting to go back to school and find a job after her divorce from Ronald. Misty was aware of the better choices and chose to stay on the same path she was on. JMO

Alex the S/G live in Baker County. They were not caught with their hands in the cookie jar and if they were I would expect LE to give them the same treatment as this faux five.jmo

LFJ, When Misty said her life didnt look like it was gonna get better, I thought gee whats that say about her marriage to Ron? jmo

Yeah Tobias! We heard Misty in the recent tapes crying and telling her father Hank Sr. that TN and Ron were always pressuring her and telling her things to say.
I honstly believe the answers are in Satsuma, but will continue to explore all avenues in order for Haleigh to have the proper Justice.

tobias said,
in June 25th, 2010 at 12:22 pm

Why didnt the media ask Crystal about her failed drug test? To me its all about the media. LE doesnt have to tell us what they are doing as far as the Sheffield /Griffis but the media has not gone in to talk with them like they have the others. jmo

*************

Or the media has made requests for interviews and the Sheffield/Griffis have refused. None of the Cummings/Skyes/Croslin’s were forced to go on TV and spill all their dirty little secrets, they choose to do that and for the shows like Good Morning America and Nancy Grace were probably paid to go on.

You do not get paid to go on NG. I am not sure about GMA.
M2c I understand where you are coming from. Like I said this a very sad case. CS to our knowledge of the last report is getting help.

LadieSadie, I know I had heard that GMA will pay for an item, so they can say it is not for the interview, but I was not sure if that was a tale or not. Thanks

Vaq, Looks like 4-5 people are upset with Putnam.jmo

Why would anyone post things about the officers wives like they did if it wasnt sour grapes? Really the worst form of mud slinging I have read. TY for posting it but I see sour grapes and a lot of gossip. jmo

vaquera said,in June 25th, 2010 at 12:51 pm Speaking of PCSO have ya’ll ever read this at topix?
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
looks like I’m not the only one onto LEs hijinks

hello to all, Happy Friday…..

justice for HaLeigh….

I really dont see their comments on topix helping the situation. Kelly left Putnam in a mess and with no room in the jails or prisons where arethey going to put all these people who are on drugs down there? Look at the bookings daily, its in and out, nothing gets solved that way. These people need to get programs set up instead of being on topix biotching, ITS THEIR COMMUNITY. JMO

LadySadie said,in June 25th, 2010 at 11:37 am Jr (and Chloe) should have been put into foster care until DCF was sure that Crystal was clean.

I angers me that so many people think foter care is a cure all. I survived several foster homes and children’s homes and I would not do that to my worst enemy, nor would any of my brothers. It was a living Hell and many foster families are very abusive: mentally, physically and sexually. Also, foster children endure a lot of teasing and name-calling at school in small towns. I can swear to that.

Perhaps DCF has made sure that someone in Crystal’s family who is not a drug user has been appointed to be the primary care giver and are checking on the children. The drug test that Crystal failed may have been due to something she was taking for stress and we do not have that information as it is not our business.

I hope everyone who jumps up and says a child should be put in foster care has to go to an old folks home and endure elderly abuse.

comment deleted because it was argumentative

BNN Editor – Jan Barrett

um… what kind of “stress drug” would make you fail a drug test? No offense, please, Ladyonm… can you enlighten me on that? I work in a mental health facility and we drop clients all the time. I have yet to hear or read a ua that deems positive for paxil, zoloft, that would make it a dirty drop?

So lets just do away with CPS and foster care altogether, yea that’s the answer (insert sarcasm here).

Maybe if CPS were not so under-staffed and under-funded, if CPS workers were not so underpaid, there could be a more and better quality CPS workers that had manageable case loads and they would have more time to check on the foster homes to ensure that all foster homes are wonderful and loving.

from the outside looking in, I don’t think any relatives that we have been introduced to in this case would be passing any drug test. How sad is this.. as I stated earlier and many times previously, this cycle of early pregnancies, school truancy, drinking, drugs, illegal activity just seems to follow into the next generation. Just as HaLeigh and Junior didn’t have a chance, neither did Misty or Tommy…..

LadySadie- That’s not the only problem here in CA. It’s caring more about what a home looks like rather then the love in the home. I don’t know who came up with what the size of windows matter but I know a family who was approved for Foster care & then the finally inspection, their windows were 1/4 of an inch too narrow! They could get foster children if they widened all the windows in their home. If the window issue was a real danger to foster children wouldn’t it be to the bio children & shouldn’t they have been removed? I don’t know what the answers are!

Alexandria, I believe you are the one who said you type using a pencil with a mouth held device. I wanted to tell you about a free program we use at school for some of our handicapped students that converts speech to text and works very well. It is called ‘Wave to Text’, it is a bit difficult to install and requires installation of some of Microsofts free speech tools, but once it is installed it is very user friendly and very accurate if you have a high quality microphone.

I think people ought to give Crystal a break and wish her and her children well. We don’t live with them, we don’t have first hand knowledge about the current situation in that household. I think Crystal would probably agree that she lacks in “mothering” dept. I give her credit for being open and honest about her past drug usage. Just hope she becomes stronger as the days go by!

beautiful*adams… Crystal should have chosen NOT to have children if she is that drug addicted.. sorry, look what has happened due to her choices. Again, back to how she was parented… we are not re-inventing the wheel here. DON’T choose drugs or alcohol if you CHOOSE to become a parent… or better yet, use birth control.

It does take two to get pregnant maybe ron should have used birth control too? jmo

Hi Cathy, Looks like another day with no news arrrgggg.

lovetheshowmadmen said,
in June 25th, 2010 at 5:18 pm

beautiful*adams… Crystal should have chosen NOT to have children if she is that drug addicted.. sorry, look what has happened due to her choices. Again, back to how she was parented… we are not re-inventing the wheel here. DON’T choose drugs or alcohol if you CHOOSE to become a parent… or better yet, use birth control.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

The babies are here, that is my concern, not what she shouldn’t/should have done. It wasn’t a solo act!

BA, At least she wont be having anymore since Connie came on and told evryone Crystal had her tubes tied after Chloe. Which was really none of our business but someone asked, so she answered. jmo

robin said,in June 25th, 2010 at 12:23 pm I hate to hear that because YOU and your family deserve JUSTICE, even if it means that your husband’s murderer pays out the teeth for the rest of HIS life. At least civilly that he was deemed responsible for the death of your husband, and that 12 other fair minded people seen it that way too. I would think a rich family would settle instead of wanting to go to trial and your lawyer (if you can call her that) should have known that too. I firmly believe you deserve better than the hand you were dealt. I believe wholeheartedly that you are a SURVIVOR, not a VICTIM. You are a strong lady who stood up to some of the worst adversity and won, and I hope one day your husband gets HIS VINDICATION and JUSTICE.
*******************************************
Thank You Robin,I really appreciate your Comment!!! I really do!
To be totally honest I don’t know what to say right now,Its hard when you’re not used to someone who knows it was and is an injustice,I know what to say to the rest,What I’ve always said but it never made a difference,I’m sorry just speechless right now,but Thank You Robin!

whew,I just checked out that topix link,OMG JM isn’t a good guy I take it?? lol

Yes I did it OJ,Thanks,lol

I wished something ,anything, would happen. I cant believe everyone has gotten so quiet, its like the calm before a storm. Makes me nervous.
I wonder if Charles Ingram has any info? He bailed just about every drug dealer, thief, and SO out of jail, wonder if he chatted with any of them? If he does know anything he would use it now since he has federal charges on him.
We need a break in this case really bad. jmo

it wasn’t our business to know about Hank,lisa but guess what,we do!

Hurricane Sally,twisted susan!

dunno how i got the words examples are,scratch it,lol

Joran and Michael Jackson…and Kyron (poor child),,, nothing else….on JVM

I may need it when she visits its like a whirl wind, its go,go,go thats why you probably wont see me the first week of July at all. I hope to sneek in the Tommy sentence on the 6th.lol

CathyJo- There’s a ? for you in the new post by Simon!

Where,what Alex? lol

Something about Ron’s dad!

see

chakra- sometimes my hands aren’t crippled & or swollen, so I can use them. Right now just the right hand is out of commission! So i use my pencil & left hand!

rofl@m2!

pretty classy that izz!!!!!!!!
Thank God she don’t have hemmoroids! ROFL

Alex- well, still impressed LOL!!!

Ohhhh ok,I thought you meant he asked me a ? personally,I thought hm why would he ask me a ? lol

About a month ago maybe Cathy remembers the exact site on here, we were discussing the family when Connie, BLStark and a few others came in Connie did answer some questions and said her door was open for anyone in the area.jmo

m2c said,in June 25th, 2010 at 6:28 pm Cent @ 5:42 “The babies are here, that is my concern, not what she shouldn’t/should have done. It wasn’t a solo act!”
- – -
Well, looking at the past can help make better decisions for the future IMO. Maybe that’s what CS did.
**************************************

If your mind is clear maybe!

tobias said,in June 25th, 2010 at 5:28 pm “It does take two to get pregnant maybe ron should have used birth control too? jmo”
–
And what about her third child with Chad who already has two or three of his own with someone else? Might have been a good thing for both of them to consider, don’t you think?

Cathy do you remember what night it was that Connie came on here to answer questions? I know she did because I was totally dumbfounded by it.jmo

Would have been a very good thing M2,But are you forgetting who these ppl are,lol

CathyJo- I’d be worried about crossing your eyes- mom always told us if we did that it would stay that way! lol

I rest my case Alex!!!!! Have you met me,roflmao!

CathyJo said,in June 25th, 2010 at 6:32 pm Yes you did,Why the heck is it bad to cross my thighs,sheeeeeesh! crazy crazy!!!!!
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
I was talking about the eyes

CathyJo- ROFLMAO

well my Gawd,OJ,i can’t cross my eyes either,rofl too late!

Thats why thers always 2 OJ’s ganging up on me,rofl

Well,LoL I am glad she did but i meant i wouldn’t have died tomorrow if i hadn’t learned it ya know Tobias! lol

A real Santa wouldn’t have made me save a gift for my bday!rofl

They lie to ya straight faced!!!

Yea Tobias,I didn’t mind hearing her,shux its new info,lol

CJ- Tell me about it, at least I was too shy as a kid to ask another kid why they did that!

Not in my room,he’s have lost a tooth Tobias!

a fat man squeezing down the chimney to eat cookies and milk and get fatter for the next chimney,shhhhhhhesh!

TG Alex,thats prolly why none of us kids asked,we were too ashamed too,lol

just mean!

oj’s glove… question… oj simpson….. guilty of killing Nicole and Ron??

yes or no…

guilty as sin,I ain’t OJ but i’ll answer!

look at that,same time 2 posts,lol

CathyJo-One of my great nieces wanted enough money to get an implanted tooth like her dad did when he had one pulled. She wouldn’t beleive him that hers would grow back but his wouldn’t!

Joran is going to get moved to another prison… even worse than Castro Castro….

and apparently is getting TONS of marriage proposals….

NOTHING update wise on HaLeigh….

where are those Alexandria?

thank you, friend…
refresh my memory… r u from Florida?

Just checking in…..I take it that we didn’t find Haliegh today?

I wish something would hurry up and break soon! I just can’t imagine her dead.

Maybe someone adopted her out for some big money? That happens all the time. The adopted parents will never return her. There are underground adoption services everywhere. If one of the people around there thought they were doing a justice to Haleigh by taking her and letting someone have her that would care for her, then that is very possible. All they have to do is change her name and the rest is cake. Seems someone might of made some money off of it too.
Possibility, eh?

I just ran across this and had never seen it,a discrepency about the dvd player hooked to the tv??

http://www.cayleedaily.com/2009/01/haleigh-cummings-medialinks-only/

************************************
Teresa Neves and her attorney Mark NeJame brought renewed national attention to the Haleigh Cummings tragedy on the CBS Morning Show.

Police say that the fathers new wife could hold the key to solving this mystery. The Putnam County Sheriff’s Office has said that Misty’s story does not add up. Physical evidence on the scene contradicts what Misty told police. And that according to Jeff, Misty was not being fully honest with the police investigators.

Both of them need to stop being so evasive, indifferent, and emotionless on camera. If you cannot muster more angst than that, nobody else is going to get all workup about it either. For goodness sake, off camera Teresa Neves is near hysterical with grief, but given the opportunity to stick it to the knucklehead, Misty, who lost Haleigh under her watch; she acts as if it is perfectly okay for the little 17-year-old to withhold information from the police.

All roads are pointing to Misty. Police say that it was NOT a stranger abduction. Who else could it have been, if it was not Misty? It is about time that Teresa Neves got mad at the person who lost Haleigh Cummings. Apparently from her performance on the CBS Morning Show Teresa finds Misty not putting an ounce of effort into resolving all of her many inconsistencies as to what happen the night that Haleigh disappeared under her watch, perfectly acceptable.

Good grief! When asked about physical evidence at the scene that contradicted Misty’s sketchy account of her evening activities, Mark could not even recount the LE comment about the DVD player not being hooked up to their television set, as in how could the children watch different movies on DVD, if the player was not even hooked up?

Haleigh has been gone six months. Perhaps, it will take another six months before Teresa and Mark might actually get mad at someone? Unbelievably, Jeff Glor seemed more concerned about Misty than they did.

Alex,If i were George,TG i’m not btw but if i were,I’d give up and let her sit there alone!

Looking or Whylie,sorry i forgot but if it was one of you who asked if i’d found all the videos on one site,the one i just posted has tons of em”

I thought there was a photo op of HaLeigh in that WalMart???

whoever did it from the beginning has done a good cover up job so they wouldn’t be that dumb now! jmo

maybe even dressed as a boy Tobias!

right Jen,I know what ya mean but somebody would have said something,imo I’m not always right tho! lol

did you know about the dvd player and tv Tobias,first i heard!

OMG I do too Alex,real bad,I am a Grandma,i know!!!!

It would be a long sentence in prison for the person or persons who have her. And for every State line it gets more time added. Do the Sheffield/ Griffis have those kinds of friends?
I doubt it. jmo

I know its gotta be hard as hello and then some but casey cares for no one but casey,the best is gone,when she took Caylee to spite them,I’d let her rot!

I remember reading about those grandparents who stole their kids children and raised them as their own. No one ever found out till they were grown. The grandparents thought they were doing what was in the best interest of the kids. So, it doesn’t have to be a stranger, it can be relatives.

NNO I DID NOT KNOWWWWWW,NOT THE WRONG MOVIE,THE DVD WASNT EVEN HOOKED UP TO THE TV SET????????

Casey is a devil child. She is evil, evil, evil. Its horrible what she did.

yes she is,she’s satans child to me Jen! always has been!

Is that true about the DVD? I heard that very early on.

Casey had her chance to give Caylee up for adoption and chose not to….well, actually pressured into keeping the baby by PSYCHO Sindy, (Mommy Dearest) I would of much rather found out that the Nanny had her and was taking her to the beach and disneyland every day, lol.

TN was still defending her??

exactly right Jen,destroyed tons of lives!

and even some relatives would kill her to keep the truth unknown,from what i have seen they would,jmo

buncha hoodlums!

didn’t it have the link too Tobias?
Its on the cayleedailysite

I read somewhere that the DVD wasn’t even hooked up either. Crazy! Watching movies without a DVD player, Washing clothes with no soap, Putting dirty clothes in the dryer, Asking what is numerical, ….

Gotta wonder

I didn’t know that Jen,at all but i sure never seen that article before either,it was tn and her Lawyer?? sheeeesh

I know she’d be the first i’d blamed!

That one momma sold her 5 year old into prostitution for $200.00 and some crack cocaine. Remember Shaniya Davis? Found dead after being raped. The guy was seen at a hotel carrying her into the elevator.

I know it is shocking, but when you are that f’n hard up for drugs, (a very strong addiction), you will do anything, and I mean some people will do anything, to get their fix or pills or whatever! It’s more likely if they are high when they do it.

So, Haleigh could of very well been sold to someone. Maybe this is what happened and Tommy set up the back door to look like a kidnapping, but forgot to make it look like the door lock was jimmied. ooops.
(But he says he wouldn’t be guilty because “he knows what he is doing when he is high). I wonder if that includes high on the meth he might of been smoking that night?

Tobias,what i heard was she had a black trash bag carrying it down the road,crap i dunnooo,lol

I think maybe Jen,they’re high when they aint high,lol jmo

something bad wrong with their logic! every single member of Haleighs family has a screw or screws loose…jmo

I never heard about the trash bag. Yes, they were probably high when they weren’t,lol.
PermaHigh!

Tobias,the link i posted,go there scroll down to the last row,up 1 and see what u make of that?

oh they will,lol I think its a ploy myself,see what rumors go thru the jail! jmo

it was after wasn’t it????

lol Jen,

We had several conflicts with
Crystal’s choice of Trustee for her Trust. She could not decide who was to be named Trustee, and changed her mind on several occasions. Without a named Trustee, the trust attorney, Brian Page, was unable to complete the
Trust Agreement for the family.

Finally, Marie Griffis wrote me an email stating that she had given Crystal
$1,400 to put in her personal account, and only had $217.00 left in donations.
Email Provided Upon Request

Further, the family made numerous allegations against friends and/or family members stealing funds from the donations. Emails Provided upon Request. I could not control the bickering between friends and family over
the funds, and they became very distrustful over one another. I would hold meetings with the family and their friends in an attempt to quell the issues between them, to no avail.

By early May, 2009, I was informed by Marie that all funds from donations had been spent by the family, they had not agreed on a suitable Trustee for their Trust Account. Marie Griffis expressed her desire to
form the nonprofit organization to seek donations from the public to aid families of missing children, and the search for Haleigh Cummings.

Further, Marie stated she wanted to “get her daughter off the couch” and have
her do something besides watch television all day. I became aware that Marie had already been in negotiations with a concert promoter to hold a concert event to honor Haleigh, and to gain contributions and funds.

Already, there was a vocal minority of the
public that felt that Crystal’s seeking of donations was insidious, and was an attempt to make a living off her own missing child. The public began sending me “hate emails”, chastising me for being involved in an effort to make money off of the name of a missing child. I did my best to curb the detractors, and was consistently having to engage in damage control to keep Crystal from appearing like a mother who was getting rich off her
child’s tragedy.

I never saw the funds that were received by the family, never received single dime from donations to Crystal, and never asked for, or received, a single reimbursement for the tens of thousands of dollars of supplies,
costs, expenses, office equipment, and staff, I had gratuitously devoted to the case. I never opened a Trust Account for the family, as the Trust Agreement was not completed, and all funds collected were spent by the
family. Marie kept all log books, documents and papers regarding the families’ receipt of funds from the public.

The allegations of a “money scheme” by Haleigh Cummings’ family increased over time, and the family was eventually reported to the Department of Agriculture. I agreed to assist them in the complaint process, and
obtained legal advice from the law firm of Rothstein, Rosenfeldt, and Adler, PA, in Broward County, Florida.
We began the process of setting up a charitable organization to be run by Marie Griffis and Crystal Sheffield. I
personally paid for all fees for the incorporation, registration with the state and counties, and filled out required
forms to be signed by Marie and Crystal. I did not have, nor did I desire, any interest in the corporation, Haleigh
Bug Foundation, Inc. Initially, I was listed as the Registered Agent for the corporation, but later transferred that
title to Marie Griffis. Haleigh Bug Foundation, Inc. was officially incorporated on May 8, 2009, and granted
permission to solicit donations to the public on July 1, 2009

hmmmmm

Prior to my coming onboard in the case, Crystal and her family, in an effort to raise her public image,had told numerous media outlets that the only reason that she did not have custody of her children was that she
was not served with court papers, and had lost custody by default. Also, she claimed on national television that Ronald had kidnapped the children, and that his family, through their collusion and “connections” in the
courthouse, made sure that Ronald retained custody of the children.

This claim was simply untrue, and I was
wholly unwilling to corroborate their previous version of the court file. I spent numerous meetings with Crystal
and her mother, explaining that I could not attest facts that were untrue to the media, or to anyone else. At that
time, I believe that a wedge began to form between Marie Griffis and I.
_________________
wow,blows my mind!

I turned my attention on resolving conflicts between the parties with time sharing, pick-up and drop off,and co-parenting. Crystal had never complained about her complete lack of involvement in her children’s lives
since 2005.

She did not attend doctors or dentist appointments, or even know who their medical care providers
were. She did not ever visit the children during the week, even though her Final Judgment provided that the
alternating weekends were a minimum visitation schedule, and permitted her to see the children during the week upon notice. Crystal did not speak with her children over the telephone during the week, and her only contact
with them was roughly four (4) days per month on alternating weekends. Crystal had not been involved in Haleigh’s school, school functions,

and did not even know what school Ronald, Jr. would be attending in the
Fall of 2009. In an effort to increase her awareness and involvement in Ronald, Jr. life and upbringing, I worked
amicably with opposing counsel, Jerry Snider, Esquire, of Palatka, Florida.
******************************************
wow,what a farce,just posted for some of you guys! Thats it,lol

And the original Bar Complaint filed by Crystal and Marie:

On March 13, 2009, Kim Picazio contacted the mother of missing child HaLeigh Cummings,
Crystal Sheffield and maternal Grandmother of HaLeigh Cummings, Marie Griffis and offered
legal assistance to the family on a Pro Bono basis. At this time, HaLeigh Cummings had been
missing since February 10, 2009.
After the initial contact, it was agreed upon by Crystal Sheffield and Marie Griffis that Kim
Picazio would appear with Crystal Sheffield on television programs solely to support her and
assist with any legal questions. There was no informed consent granted to release any other
information beyond what was required for the television appearances. Crystal Sheffield and
Marie Griffis also agreed that Kim Picazio would represent Crystal Sheffield in all child custody
issues concerning HaLeigh Cummings and Ronald Cummings Junior. Both Sheffield and Griffis
expressed their desire for Crystal Sheffield to gain custody of her children.
These are the only activities that were discussed and agreed upon between the parties of Kim
Picazio, Crystal Sheffield and Marie Griffis. All activities outside of these agreements were not
discussed or authorized by Crystal Sheffield and Marie Griffis. There have been many ethical
violations that have been committed by Kim Picazio during the representation of Crystal
Sheffield and Marie Griffis.
The Florida Bar Rules of Professional Conduct 4-1.6 Confidentiality of Information Subdivision
(a) states Consent Required to Reveal Information. A lawyer shall not reveal information relating
to representation of a client except as stated in subdivisions (b), (c), and (d), unless the client
gives informed consent.
On many occasions, Kim Picazio appeared on television programs, granted radio interviews and
made statements to journalists. None of these appearances were discussed or agreed upon with
her clients and there was no consent granted for the release of the information that was discussed
with the media.
On many occasions, Kim Picazio corresponded with the general public via email and telephone
discussing personal information about Crystal Sheffield and discussing aspects of her case
without the consent of Crystal Sheffield or Marie Griffis. Electronic records are available upon
request.
On several occasions, Kim Picazio corresponded with and established relationships with internet
crime board bloggers. She discussed personal details of Crystal Sheffield’s life and the case of
the disappearance of HaLeigh Cummings without the consent of Crystal Sheffield or Marie
Griffis. Kim Picazio went further than simple disclosure and began supplying the bloggers with
information to post on the internet. Electronic records are available upon request.
Included in an email exchange spanning May 15-16,2009, Kim Picazio communicates with an
internet blogger. During this exchange, an internet blogger Tammy Pratt (aka Badme) requests
some information that she can post on the internet crime forum Websleuths. Kim Picazio
supplies her with information to post that is related to a confidential DCF investigation into the
allegation that Misty Cummings slapped Ronald Cummings Junior. The email is included as
Exhibit A. Electronic record is available upon request.
Included in an email exchange on May 17,2009, Kim Picazio communicates with internet
bloggers known as Pirate Girl and Top Gunner (aka KarenD415). During this exchange, Kim
Picazio discusses the HaLeigh Cummings Case and refers to leaking information to reporters TJ
Hart and Art Harris. The email is included as Exhibit B. Electronic record is available upon
request.

Included in an email exchange spanning May 21-22,2009, Kim Picazio communicates with an
internet blogger known as Pirate Girl discussing Kim Picazio’s posting on internet crime blogs.
The email is included as Exhibit C. Electronic record is available upon request.
In an email exchange on April 9,2009, Kim Picazio communicates with an internet blogger
known as Pirate Girl. Pirate Girl is sending a written summary of information that Kirn Picazio
has shared with the internet blogger. The blogger is presenting the information to Kim Picazio
for final approval before posting the information on the internet crime forum Websleuths. This
information was later posted on the internet forum. The email is included as Exhibit Dl and D2.
Electronic record is available upon request.
In an email exchange on May 23,2009, Kim Picazio communicates with an internet blogger
known as Pirate Girl. She is discussing Crystal Sheffield’s toxicology screens and also discusses
how she has leaked the information to reporter Art Harris to be reported on his website. The
email is included as Exhibit E. Electronic record is available upon request.
In an email exchange on May 21,2009, Kim Picazio communicates with an internet blogger
known as Pirate Girl. Pirate Girl is sending a written summary of information that Kim Picazio
has shared with the internet blogger. This information is extremely sensitive and personal
information about the Sheffield / Griffis family. The blogger is presenting the information to
Kim Picazio for final approval before posting the information on the internet crime forum
Websleuths. This information was later posted on the internet forum. The email is included as
Exhibit F. Electronic record is available upon request.
In an email exchange spanning May 24-35,2009, Marie Griffis communicates with an internet
blogger Karen Simmer (aka Ksue). Marie Griffis is asking the blogger about a telephone call
that Ksue had with Kim Picazio. Marie Griffis had heard about the phone conversation because
the blogger called into an internet radio program and discussed it on air. This information is
extremely sensitive and personal information about the Sheffield / Griffis family was supplied to
the blogger by Kim Picazio. The email is included as Exhibit G. Electronic record is available
upon request.

Kim Picazio has not acted with reasonable diligence in her failure to file for suspension of
further child support obligations. With HaLeigh Cummings missing and Crystal Sheffield
suffering seizures and unable to work, Crystal Sheffield’s child support obligations should have suspended or at least reduced. Crystal Sheffield turned over a copy of her doctor’s note verifying
her inability to work or drive. A copy of this note is included as Exhibit I.

seems cs trusted him if no one else did,lol jmo

thats the 1st i have ever seen of sheff side rebutt!

Going to see if this part of the rebuttal regarding the emails will copy and paste, sorry in advance if they don’t come out well, I am copy and pasting from the pdf downloaded from the Florida bar.

———–

Kim Picazio befriended a number bloggers. One such blogger that Kim Picazio befriended was Kendall
Clark aka Pirate from Websleuths and the Garden. According to Kendall Clark’s statement which is
included as Exhibit A, v®ry sensitive information was being leaked by Kim Picazio to be posted on tiie
internet by herself, wA Wto other btoggers Karen Devine^pruill and Tammy Spratt
Following ts an excerpt from Kendall Clark’s statetnentexr>lainingu^ type of leiatranship she had with
Kim Picazio and the depth of involvement Kim Picazio had with the online community.
However by the end of April I began to grow cot&ermd with tten&ure of the Mfon^wn Kim often
shared with Karen and me. At times 1 felt flattered that she trusted me, but more and more I was
coneermdthat Kim should net be handing <nti itformation that included the names of potential
witnesses in a missing child case. I knew that Kim talked with other people who were active on the
internet and was fairly certain that she was sharing information as Jreety with these other people as she
had with me, Kim mentioned that she warned to have as many bloggers as possible contact Bonnie Warner at
Florida’s Department of Children and Families to exert pressure to remove Ron Cummings Jr. from the
custody of his father. She tossed out names of people with whom Rcm Cummings was known to deal
drugs and details about their statements to her investigators and to law enforcement.
Kim also wanted me to post defamatory information about John Merchant, a detective with the Putnam
County Sheriff’s office on Websleuths. She claimed that this detective was caught with cocaine in his
personal vehicle in 2008 and was not punished beyond two weeks of desk duty. She also claimed that
Mr. Merchant had been caught in possession of a boat that belonged to a drug dealer who he sent to
prison. Kim daimedthat Detective Merchant was helpingHaLeigh’sfather, Ron Cummings continue to
evade prosecution for his role in HaLeigh ‘s disappearance, I had no desire to subject myself to a libel
case and therefore declined to post the information about John Merchant.
Miss Picazio also took an especially aggressive stance toward Ron Cummings’attorney at the time,
Greg Kimball. She told me that Kimbatt was known to use crack cocaine, engage in parties with
prostitutes, and that he was likely involved in the drug trade with Ron Cumnrings. She also told me that
his nickname on the streets of Putnam County is “Crackhead”‘ Kimball and that he had a condominium
on the waterfront in Palatka in which he hosted drug and sex parties. KM and her private
investigator, William Cobra Staubs both pressured me to share this information online.
Kim had a close relationship with a Bounty Hunter/Private Investigator named William “Cobra”
Staubs. They were longtime friends and were working on HaLeigh’s case together. Many times Kim
called me when she was with Cobra and we would have three way conversations utilizing her cellular
speaker phone. There were many times she called late at night and I assumed that she and Cobra were intoxicated because of their conduct. Around the middle of May Kim and Cobra had a falling out that resulted in an acrimonious war of words over the internet. One afternoon, Kim contacted me and she
was extremely upset that Mr. Staubs/Cobra had recorded her discussing an extra marital affair she was
having with a young man who worked at the Haleighbug Center named Jeremiah Reagan. She told me
tMt one night when she was spending the night in a hotel room wuit Jeremiah in Pala$ka that Cobra
called Kim’s husband to report that this was happening and that he drove to Putnam County from Ft.
Lauderdale and caught Kim in the hotel room with Jeremiah,
Kim was angry and upset and determined to exact revenge on Cobra for telling her husband about her
affair with Jeremiah. She wanted to share some of Cobra’s embarrassing personal information online
and as I did with the information about John Merchant, I refused to participate. Shortly after this
conversation with Kim, a man catted my house and told me that he had information that could be used to
damage Cobra and a reporter/ram Minnesota with whom Cobra was working named TJm Holmseth. I
hung up on this caller and told Kim to never have anyone call me like that again.
My continued refusal to disseminate negative information about Kim ‘sfoes resulted in our relationship
becoming strained. Tne fined incident that resulted in my brealang ties wUh Ms. Picazio ami Karen
Devine was when Ms. Devine abused her privileges as a moderator at Websleuths in order to prevent
Crystal Sheffield and her family from learning that Kim was spreading false information on the internet.
A story began to circulate that HaLeigh ‘s father, Ron Cummings was planning to take HaLeigh ‘s
brother Ronald Jr. to Central America over the summer. I contacted Kim to see if this was true and she
replied that Ron Cummings did reqmst to take the cMd out of the cotaUry but that she was not going to
allow it. She gave me permission to post this on Websleuths A day later, on June 8 Marie Griffis
contacted me through private message at Websleuths to tell me that Ron Cummings never requested to
take Ron Jr. out of the country. I apologized projusely to Marie and told her 1 would be glad to share
the email with her in which Kim Picazio stated that he did make this request. Within hours Kim was
leaving angry voice mails at my home questioning my loyalty to her. The next Jay I severed my
relationship with Kim Picazio, Karen Devme-Spruill and Tammy Spratt inane mail informing them
how disgusted I was with the way they were treatir^tne case and family cfa missing child.

LadySadie- That’s why I don’t trusy any lawyers on this case, they tell as many lies as their clients!

right..watched the video on the ps

She came on this blog not too long ago (don’t remember the date, but after Crystal fired her) still talking about the case. Isn’t there a confidentiality agreement between Crystal and her? How can what she did be considered ethical at all?

I don’t remember LE ever stating the DVD player was not hooked up to the TV. CJ do you have a link for that?

Yes,whylie,I posted it above@ CathyJo said,in June 25th, 2010 at 7:45 pm

I guess whichever Misty told them was hooked up,was not? jmo

Teresa Neves and her attorney Mark NeJame brought renewed national attention to the Haleigh Cummings tragedy on the CBS Morning Show.

Police say that the fathers new wife could hold the key to solving this mystery. The Putnam County Sheriff’s Office has said that Misty’s story does not add up. Physical evidence on the scene contradicts what Misty told police. And that according to Jeff, Misty was not being fully honest with the police investigators.

Both of them need to stop being so evasive, indifferent, and emotionless on camera. If you cannot muster more angst than that, nobody else is going to get all workup about it either. For goodness sake, off camera Teresa Neves is near hysterical with grief, but given the opportunity to stick it to the knucklehead, Misty, who lost Haleigh under her watch; she acts as if it is perfectly okay for the little 17-year-old to withhold information from the police.

All roads are pointing to Misty. Police say that it was NOT a stranger abduction. Who else could it have been, if it was not Misty? It is about time that Teresa Neves got mad at the person who lost Haleigh Cummings. Apparently from her performance on the CBS Morning Show Teresa finds Misty not putting an ounce of effort into resolving all of her many inconsistencies as to what happen the night that Haleigh disappeared under her watch, perfectly acceptable.

Good grief! When asked about physical evidence at the scene that contradicted Misty’s sketchy account of her evening activities, Mark could not even recount the LE comment about the DVD player not being hooked up to their television set, as in how could the children watch different movies on DVD, if the player was not even hooked up?

Haleigh has been gone six months. Perhaps, it will take another six months before Teresa and Mark might actually get mad at someone? Unbelievably, Jeff Glor seemed more concerned about Misty than they did.
**********
Link @ 7:45 pm!

It did Tobias,lol sec

CathyJo63 said,in June 25th, 2010 at 9:24 pm thats the 1st i have ever seen of sheff side rebutt!
———————–

That isn’t their rebuttal. It pre-dates what Kim P had to say in what you posted CathyJo….what you posted is KP’s reply to their complaint. The Sheffield/Griffis have never denied (at least publicly) anything in KP’s reply.

lawyers are vomit..hope’s lawyer being the perfect example of a worthless public defender. heaven help the poor, because public defenders are not! They lead the sheep to slaughter then say “next”..

If you don’t do a crime you don’t need a public defender.

If you don’t do a crime you aint got to do no time!

The faux fab five didn’t care they were being watched and dealt drugs anyway.

Hank Sr. is all but begging Misty to tell WHAT SHE KNOWS.. SHE KNOWS SOMETHING…

and for whoever made the point yet again, that Ronald and his mama are in on this.. I totally BELIEVE that at this point… truly.. who in their right mind would be happy that their son married a 17 year old after their grandchild is reported missing….

the sad part that continues to concern me is that too much time is going by and the case gets colder each day…

does anyone thing Tommy may have been moved because he could be on suicide watch? How much more could his life be going down the tubes as of now???

There are exceptions, but if you don’t commit crime, you have far much less to worry about than law abiding systems.

I realize what kind of system of justice we have and while not perfect, its the best in the world, imo.

Again, don’t do the time if you can’t do the time.

The faux fab five didn’t heed that warning and now are paying a high cost.

agree, Jaba.. and good morning

Far much less to worry about if you are a law abiding Citizen….

Correction to prior post.

m2c.. it doesn’t make sense they HAVE NEVER questioned anything Misty did.. they have supported her.. they never said “she was there, she should know.”

this is a little child’s life.. if it would have been me? I would be doing anything I could to try and figure out why and what happened… Teresa even said the kids loved her.. and they wanted her to marry Ronald.. okay.. she was 17.. and had known him for 4 months.. are you flipping serious? This is SO wrong on so many levels.. and then Ronald marries her after he says, “bitch, you let my child get stole…”

Wrong, sick, on so so many levels…

There is no way in he77 that Misty would face a hundred years or more in prison to protect Ron, TN, AS, TC, or anybody else, that goes for TC as well. The only ones they would protect are themselves and they would do it by putting the blame on somebody else. They can’t blame what happened to Haleigh on Ron because they KNOW Ron was at work. Their only choices are to blame each other or JO.

I also have a hard time seeing the Cummings involved in the deedor a cover up, JMO

Moving to new article. Refresh is slooowwwwwww!

WOW I sure can clear a room and put everyone in auto ignore mode.

I don’t think so TM39. There are about 9 posts since you posted. Maybe you need to refresh the page. Sometimes I have to do it twice before all the posts show up.

morning Texas!

morning ILSMM.

ilovetheshowmadmen – Who said TN wanted any of that? Again, what’s said publicly by most families in the world is meant to put the best foot forward – not to air dirty linen or disagreements.
Besides, what mother has total control over what her adult 25 + year old son does? AS wasn’t happy with M’s behavior (leaving R and kids for a few days etc) or that R took her back but again since when does a grandmother have any say over what an adult man does?

As far as we know M took pretty good care of the kids for months. None of the people involved in this case (except some bloggers) claim to have ESP or psychic abilities of any kind. So I think it’s understandable for them not to expect something like this to happen.

ilovetheshowmadmen –
M had been back with Ron at least since Sunday and back from binging to Tommy’s on Saturday I believe.
She was home with R all day until he went to work.

To me it is just as easy to think that M needed a little “tough love” since she so much wanted to marry R and have her own kids it was about time she learned that real mothers take care of their kids when they’re tired too. And when did she supposedly call TN or ask for the favor? M could have gone to sleep at 8 pm herself when the children went to bed. The only time she’d really need help was between when R went to work and 8 pm. I think TN thought M was trying to go out and party again. I don’t blame her at all.

And somebody has to make their mind up if TN played a big part in R’s life or not. There’s that opinion and others say she abandoned him. Besides he’s grown and very independent. I don’t see him as a mama’s boy at all. I think AS and TN had little chance of influencing R ever – nevermind at such a highly emotional time as that was.

totally disagree about the Mama’s boy part.. totally

and at 17 years of age.. not her job to take care of HIS children.. if she chose that, oh well…

he was using her and so was his mom…
but her poor upbringing was the reason she herself knew no better. She hadn’t been to school since the 6th grade? Where I come from, those parents would be held responsible and Misty would not have been in their home.. She would have been taken in by a foster family or a caring relative…

M2C, I will agree that IMO Misty was a good care giver to a certain degree, she is still just a child and not their biological mother. I am sure she loved the children and would never intentional harm them as others have suggested, but Mity is a child and we all know that when one mixes bad choices in friends and drugs (even pot) to this mix it is highly probable that something will go wrong and accidents will happen.

M2c.. my previous post at 7:42 should answer your question.. call it woman’s intuition, gut feeling, you name it….

WHY would you want your son to marry a person that was watching your grand child that is NOW gone? EVEN if it was not Misty.. what if it is Tommy, Lindsy, or Joe? SAME FAMILY??????

you want your son to marry in to this?

I hope this explains my feelings….
it is NOT normal… NO one should want their 20 something son to mary a 17 year old 7th grade drop out.. and I DO NOT blame Misty for her hard life. These are tragic and point blank facts.

ilovetheshowmadmen @ 8:25 am
I think it’s a mistake to assume that you know what TN wanted or thought.

Oh, I think I misunderstood. Your answer to my question is “call it woman’s intuition, gut feeling, you name it….”
–

So you’re just railing against a woman you don’t like? It has nothing to do with a theory on the case?

There is a rebuttal filed by MG and CS to KP response. It is long, hope Jan doesn’t mind my posting it. Again this is a straight copy and paste from the downloaded pdf file so excuse the quality in advance.

——————–

The response filed by Kim Picazio addressing the original complaints contains her response to the
specific complaints, along with a muMpage narrative of the case. The superfluous narrative seems to
serve no other purposes than to defame her clients and ccmfiise the issues that have been reported in this
complaint Crystal Sheffield and Marie Griffis will only respond to valid rebuttals to reported
infractions. Miss Picazio’s attempt to disguise inflammatory, unrelated allegations as valid responses to
the complaints should be noted.
The first issue that should be addr^scxl is the fact that the Sheffield/Griffis Famiiy was in the middle of a terrible crisis, the disappearance of a child, when Kim Picazio began representing them. The
confusion, worry and stress that surrounded such a traumatk event had a profoond physcal and
psychological effect on Kim Picazio’s clients, m a situation so:h as mis, it was very important for
communication between attorney and client to be clear, consistent and documented.
The second issue that should also be addressed is the fact that Kim Picaao represented and spoke for
Crystal Sheffield and her family, including Marie Griffis, One only has to read Kim Picazio’s own
response to establish that fact. There are numerous referaK«s to her advising and consulting with the
family. She spoke for the family on multiple occasions. There is ample evidence that Kim Picazio
advised the family on many legal issues and represented herself as a family spokessnan.
Crystal Sheffield and Marie Griffis will not comment on die initial contact between Kim Picazio,
William (Cobra) Staubs (personal friend of Kim Picazio) and Wayanne Kruger due to the fact that
neither of them (Staubs or Kruger) weie official representatives of the SheiBeldJ^mffis family. The
issues discussed are irrelevant to establishing the professional relationship between Kim Picazio and the
Sheffield/GriiTis family.
The Rales of Professional Conduct 4-1.6 (a) Violations
Hie Florida Bar Rules of Professional Conduct 4-1.6 Confidentiality of Information Subdivision (a)
states Consent Required to Reveal Information. A lawyer shall not reveal information relating to
representation of a client except as stated in subdivisions (b), (c), and (d), unless the client gives
informed consent.
Crystal Sheffield and Marie Griffis continue to cwntend that it was agreed thai Kim Picazio would
appear with Crystal Sheffield on television programs solely to support her and assist with any legal questions. There was no informed consent granted to release any other information beyond what was required for the television appearances. Crystal Sheffield and Marie Griffis also agreed that Kim Picazio
would represent Crystal Sheffield in all child custody issues conceniing HaLeigh Cummings and Ronald
Cummings Junior. Bofli Sheffield and Griffis expressed thdr desire for Crystal Sheffield to gain cu^
of her children.
Cry stal Sheffield and Mark Griffis continue to contend that these are the only activities that were
discussed and agreed upon between the parties of Kim Picazio, Crystal Sheffield and Marie Griffis. All
activities outside of these agreements were not discussed or authorized by Crystal Sheffield and Marie
Griffis.

LadySadie: Could you please post the link for that?
Or the website and title? Thank you.

WhyLie@ 8:39 am – I agree. Plus R and M moved in with AS shortly after so there was another person there to help look after Jr.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/22810588/The-Florida-Bar-Inquiry-Complaint-Kiml-Picazio-Response-to-Kim-l

You have to be a member of the site to read the entire thing or download it.

I don’t believe that HaLeigh overdosed.. I think it could have been a physical abuse to HaLeigh..the whole 911 call is a sham… and why would you stop and buy cigarettes BEFORE you came home if you knew something was up…

why 20 cell phone calls….

why would you marry someone who you said let your child get stole..??

it is assumptions.. I have no proof… but something smells wrong and it doesn’t add up…

I wasn’t there.. but as i said previously, I have a gut feeling Ronald and his mama know way more than they are spilling… and so does Misty…

why did Teresa try to get Cobra all jacked up on that woods visit with the Mexicans in the cabin theory? She is as dumb as a fox…

yes, my opinion… lots of unanswered questions.. I hope this explains to you in a better manner

ilovetheshowmadmen, yes, well, there are lots of questions and suspicions in other directions as well. We can all take our pick or wait until some evidence is found.

LadieSadie – Thank you SO much! But it is not showing up for me. It may have gone into moderation.

Sometimes it helps to break it up like leave off the http://www
and/or put one half of the address and then some words like “and the last half of the address is” and then put the last half of the address. Then there’s less chance of it going in to moderation (I think) Thank you!

Ilovetheshow…I think M2c said ‘railing against’ (not rallying against).
I too would like to know how others think this has to do with Ron or TN?
An opinion on their lifestyle choices does not say how they were involved in Haleighs dissapearance. Personally, I see nothing wrong with Ron and Misty being together or getting married after Haleigh disappeared. I think TN loved Misty. It wasn’t like they all just met. Seemed that it is a very tight community and some cultures are different. I also think Ron was trying to change some things in his life and Misty was great with the kids and loved them. Why wouldn’t TN like her?
So, when Haleigh was taken, Ron and Misty bonded even closer (which happens after this sort of thing). Support was needed, not a bunch of fools running around blaming each other causing more trouble. They stuck together both in a human sense and an emotional sense. The police even had to ask dumbass Crystal to put her hate for Ron away for the time being and focus on Haliegh.
This is what needs to happen.
I don’t think Ron or TN were involved. They both love(d) Haleigh and so did Misty.

I agree at this point we need more EVIDANCE to actually be able to firmly believe anyone of them in particular is involved and guilty of harming/hiding/killing HaLeigh.

So JenM, do you think Crystal didn’t love Haleigh? And Misty “loved” Haleigh so much that she b*tched about how Haleigh ruined Misty’s birthday, yep lots of love there.

Hi everyone. I have a favor to ask of all of you. When you copy/paste something in here please also include the link that you got it from. Also you don’t have to post the whole article when it is long. It makes the page here harder to load when it is over filled with some of those very lengthy posts from someone else’s site. I know most comments with links in them go directly into moderation but I try to get to them as soon as I can.

Thanks for your cooperation in this matter. I hope you all have a great weekend!

Jan Barrett

m2c, did the altered link post for you at 9:19?

JenM, My point is the playing field is even IMO and should not be the bases for our theiries…ONE is no better than the other!!!!!
It should of been since the beginning about motive and who had something to gain from this crime IMO.
Funny it was all about $ and custody for the Sheffields since the beginning.

Good Morning Everyone!

Does anyone know who babysat the children before Misty was in the picture?

BBL coffee is cold and the sun is already up and baking us Texans. Hope all of y’all have a great Saturday.
To whom ever has the ability to end this …… please … HaLeigh deserves better….Let HaLeigh be found, today.

Alexandria, it was stated in the custody or DCF papers that Ron’s sister Crystal would be the primary care giver when Ron was at work, don’t know if she ever really did watch them though as she lived in a different county, had 2 kids of her own and had a job.

I wonder if Amber watched them when Ron was dating her.

m2c, your source hasn’t shown up for me yet, but glad mine did for you.

WhyLie, even with insurance, there are co-pays and most insurance only covers 80% of the cost. Not sure how much Medicaid covers, but I can attest to the fact that in Florida it is very difficult to get Medicaid. My daughter has a heart condition, I am a divorced mother and her father contributes nothing to her medical care. Even with 3 different doctors reports she did not qualify for Medicaid.

Alexandria, it depends on the company, but usually there is a 60 to 90 day wait before you are entitled to insurance.

And up until the new laws that made changes to the insurance industry, if there was a pre-existing condition that had gone 30 not covered under any insurance then the new insurance company did not have to cover that condition. When I moved from Ohio to Florida, I had to pay the $900 a month Cobra Insurance payment to make sure that my daughter did not go without insurance or the new insurance would not cover her condition.

m2c, when I looked at the files on thesky973 I could not find MC & CS response to KimP’s response. So I went to the site I posted and that is where I found all of them.

JenM.. wow….
you think it is normal that Misty and Ronald bonded after HaLeigh was last seen in Misty’s care….”"you let my daughter get stole, bitch…?”

do you think it is normal that they married too?

ilovetheshowmadmen – Long married husbands and wives have blamed the other when a child disappears – especially in the heat of the moment when it they just found out about it. It’s not weird. It’s not surprising. I would be if he hadn’t said something like that IMO.

Again, no proof or evidence of guilt at all.

If you look at the G/S side, do you think much of what they did was “normal?”

I don’t want to bring up that feud again but really among this bunch what’s normal?

I can remember a TV interview with Crystal where people can be seen behind her searching for Haleigh’s body and to the astonishment of the reporter who had just mentioned that to CS, she carries on beeotching about something bad someone said about her. Totally unaffected by what was going on around her. Was that “normal?” No. Does that mean she kidnapped Haleigh. Not necessarily.

And the marriage may have been motivated by Ron wanting to stay out of jail on stat rape charges or by wanting to improve his public image.

IMO we just can’t judge guilt or guilty knowledge by the way these people acted or what they did.

It is Possible. Many things are possible. That’s why I have a number of theories featuring different people.

ilovetheshowmadmen said,in June 26th, 2010 at 10:16 am -

So why not apply the same point of view to TN and R and others?

I always felt that Ron married Misty for 2 reasons, one to keep Misty from being sent out of state by her parents, and two to take a jab at Crystal.

Like it or not, and whether we agree or not, Ron and Crystal have a history of loving/hating/hurting/comforting each other. We may not understand or approve of their relationship but it is there and goes back years and imo will continue for years to come, maybe forever.

There is so much we do not know about this case, imo, the only things we do know are:

1. Something happened to Haleigh while she was in the custody of her father.

2. Haleigh’s fathers 17 year old live-in girlfriend was supposed to be watching Haleigh on the day that something happened to her.

3. Haleigh’s father married his 17 year old live-in girlfriend who was supposed to be watching Haleigh when something happened to her shortly after something happened to Haleigh.

4. Haleigh’s father divorced his 17 year old live-in girlfriend that he married shortly after something happened to Haleigh after only a few months of marriage.

5. Haleigh’s father and his now 18 year old ex-wife were arrested for drug trafficking together shortly after they divorced.

Everyone claims Ron loved HALEIGH so much? What about his love for Junior? He didnt care enough to stay away from Misty and drug dealing to be there for a little boy who needed him in the worst way since he doesnt have Haleigh anymore. jmo

LadySadie and Tobias: all of which add up to: all childre who disappear are in the custody of someone and there’s always someone who was the last to see them (sometimes even in the same house) and also being weird and using drugs (plenty of people with children use and deal and make terrible decisions especially when under great strain and villified daily) but it doesn’t add up to guilt.

And – tit for tat – why didn’t CS clean up her act, get a job, start making custody payments etc if she wanted her children back for pete’s sake? DCF gave Jr to her when she tested positive fgs. She was the lesser of two evils?? BFD. Talk about motive. That family had them all: money, jealousy and revenge.

True 2 wrongs dont make either of them RIGHT. Just pointing out Ron had custody of both kids and somehow lost one(whether it was his fault or not) and more or less quit caring about the second child because he was dealing drugs (knew if he was caught he would lose him too, said it to the UC on tape) jmo

m2c, absolutely we could say that CS didn’t care about Chloe when she took drugs while pregnant and after. We could also say she didn’t care about Jr since she tested positive for drugs after she did get custody of him. I won’t re-post my feelings on that since when I did yesterday I got severely attacked by someone that doesn’t like foster homes.

tobias, Kim P. put that in her rebuttal to the bar complaint filed by CS and MG.

In the CS & MG reply to KimP’s rebuttal they disputed a lot of things but that is one thing they did not dispute or deny.

Very true tobias, I don’t think it said either way, just drugs in system.

tobias @ 12:06 – I don’t think KP would have had a problem with it if it had been prescribed drugs and I’m sure that MG would have countered with proof of that if it was the case. But they have not contradicted anything KP said.

M2C, Is KP to be believed or not? Its not like she was truthful the entire time from what alot of people claim or is it just when its about Crystal? I have dismissed everything she has said. imho

M2C, You know what KP and the blogger Pirate did(among others) but you choose to believe her now? Just when its about Crystal? I was in lurk when all hello was goig on with the bloggers but I can tell you I dont believe a word she has said even ones about Ron and Misty. jmo

m2c said,
in June 26th, 2010 at 12:44 pm

Tobias, the Bar Complaint that CS brought is a serious thing and so are the documents. KP had to respond to defend herself or she could have been disbarred. So CS opened the door. KP could be in serious trouble for lying on those docs if CS wanted to take it farther. So yes I’d give that more weight.
=================================
Boy, you have that right. You betcha she was telling the truth in that rebuttal and she had the documentation to back it up. She was not going down and be disbarred from the Bar Association to lie and cover for Crystal and Marie.

And she should have been. We all know that. Crystal and Marie arent smart enough to take her down and she knew it too.jmo

Because they were not illegal drugs, everyone keeps saying its in the KP BAR COMPLAINT. I t says drugs( which we all know could be from a doctor prescibing them) I had a hard birth with my first child and yes I was prescribed pain killers during the labor and birth. jmo

Vaq, I agree.

She had the chance to leave when she was in Tennessee and she was not married to him then. She came back when he called her, Misty was in love and reguardless if he married her or not she would have stayed with him. jmo

tobias said,in June 26th, 2010 at 12:57 pm
“And she should have been (disbarred). We all know that.”

No. We don’t. I like a little evidence before conviction, Tobias.

Tobias @ 12:57 “Crystal and Marie arent smart enough to take her down and she knew it too.jmo”

My azz. They brought the bar complaint and could have taken it farther if they’d been wronged but they didn’t because they weren’t. FINALLY some truth came out about that lowlife bunch that was trying to paint themselves as innocent victims when they were no better than the one they were accusing. My azz.

I am not saying the S/G are innocent in any wrong doing, I am saying KP created alot of it along with them. She knew she was not going to win custody for Crystal long before she bailed out on her. I think she hoped Haleigh would be found before she had to really do anything andwhen it didnt happen she bailed out. jmo

I agree to disagree with you, if you wish to believe KP its your choice. I dont and her record of conduct in this case just proves the point. Whether she lied on her bar complaint or not it does not make up for the mess she helped create in this case. She lacks ethics and morals. in my honest opinion.

Tobias, most divorce/custody lawyers lack ethics and morals IMO. But I don’t think KP lied on the Bar complaint docs. Maybe when representing MG and CS she did but not on the docs.

vaq, the link for the response to the rebuttal is in a post I made this morning @ 8:56 also m2c gave a link at 9:52 for an alternate site for the documents.

I thought KP was JS employee.???

didn’t Sheffield tell Cobra that KP said to fire him, and didn’t Sheffield’s mother-in-law hire him ?

yes cricket, that is what was said.

Jan Barrett said,
in June 26th, 2010 at 9:28 am

Hi everyone. I have a favor to ask of all of you. When you copy/paste something in here please also include the link that you got it from. Also you don’t have to post the whole article when it is long. It makes the page here harder to load when it is over filled with some of those very lengthy posts from someone else’s site. I know most comments with links in them go directly into moderation but I try to get to them as soon as I can.

Thanks for your cooperation in this matter. I hope you all have a great weekend!

Jan Barrett
——————
Thanks Jan

I found it, thanks. I will read it later, I don’t know how I missed this. I am sure Kendal Clark aka Pirate wrote this also.

Why doesn’t some one play Misty’s tape at the airport to her to remind her, LE to remind them or her lawyer, she say’s on there,we will all know soon enough, so what is it Misty??

Sorry to hear that COOP. Well, we haven’t found Haleigh and we havent figured out who is responsible for her being missing. But, there are a few things that are new. At least I think they happened this week, lol. Tommy got moved to the jail where Ron is and no one really knows why. Something funky is going on with his docket information, in regards to his bail money. The Cummings, Croslins and Sheffields are all still lying, as well as LE, the Media and the Attorneys. And last, but certainly not least, the bloggers got in trouble for arguing and name calling over all of it! LOL, so you really didn’t miss much.

Lillymae, I bet they all know who each other are. I like to think that they are involved and that Haleigh is ok. If they are, then this whole thing has blown up in their faces and has gotten so far out of hand, that they can never admit the truth.

vaquera said,in June 26th, 2010 at 12:53 pm m2c said,
in June 26th, 2010 at 12:44 pm

Tobias, the Bar Complaint that CS brought is a serious thing and so are the documents. KP had to respond to defend herself or she could have been disbarred. So CS opened the door. KP could be in serious trouble for lying on those docs if CS wanted to take it farther. So yes I’d give that more weight.
=================================
Boy, you have that right. You betcha she was telling the truth in that rebuttal and she had the documentation to back it up. She was not going down and be disbarred from the Bar Association to lie and cover for Crystal and Marie
————————————

Yep. I totally agree with both of you.

me who is Chad Reynolds ?

ME, never mind I went to look him up,I remember him now but didn’t no he was still missing, I thought he had been found.

Internet rumors do not count as facts known in the case.

Crack was found on the property that Chad and Crystal live on. Crystal’s own attorney stated the crack found on the property was Chads and Chad has a previous arrest for Cocaine. I think that is a little bit more evidence then an internet rumor.

Crack was found in the truck of a farm worker on property that Bruce Griffis owns. Absolutely no proof that the crack belonged to Chad.

If you hire a handy man to build a fence around your property and neighbors call the police to complain about the noise, and as the police are walking past the handyman’s truck parked in your driveway they see a bag of crack, does that mean the crack belongs to you and you should be arrested?

WhyLie–I agree with your statement about Crystal. If Crystal is not able to work because of her condition, then why don’t she file for disability? I hate to say this but if Crystal had been a man in the same situation she would have all ready sat in jail for being behind 12,000 in child support–probably more than once for that matter. At least in my state she would have and the judge could care less that she had a small daughter in her care–his main concern would have been the two children that deserved the support she was ordered to pay. She could have went to court and had her child support lowered if she was in such dire straits. This medical excuse does not excuse her arrearage at the time. I do believe that she did not have the first seizure until a couple days before Haleigh went missing (I read that in an article). She did not pay her court ordered child support and to me (only my opinion) there is absolutely NO excuse for that.

Actually WhyLie, the only place that I can even find that reported there was a crack pipe and a small amount of crack found in a truck owned by someone named Jesse Watkins was on ArtHarris.com so in my eyes that drugs were even found is just ANOTHER internet RUMOR.

LadySadie,

If you look back in the early days of this case, Chad Reynolds was the first big suspect. He is an RSO who molested a child in Palatka previously, and had absconded just a few days before. There were lots of articles out about him way back when this first happened.

JenM said,
in June 26th, 2010 at 7:40 pm

Lillymae, I bet they all know who each other are. I like to think that they are involved and that Haleigh is ok. If they are, then this whole thing has blown up in their faces and has gotten so far out of hand, that they can never admit the truth.
___________________________________________
Interesting, owner of this Hastings, Fl farm I believe possibly distant relative maternally to HaLeigh.

http://www.ciw-online.org/Foxes_Henhouse_FFVA.html

LadySadie said,in June 26th, 2010 at 8:29 pm Again, internet rumors, I have also read that up until 2 years ago Crystal was working and making regular support payments, lost her job due to the economy downturn and that she did not owe 4 years worth. Then she had a car accident while pregnant and was unable to work.

Internet rumors do not count as known facts.
————————–

Exactly, internet rumors do not count as facts, but you cited a whole para of them above. If you want the truth about how much was owed in child support, then check the court records rather than relying on the rumours you read.

LadySadie said,in June 26th, 2010 at 8:32 pm Crack was found in the truck of a farm worker on property that Bruce Griffis owns. Absolutely no proof that the crack belonged to Chad.

————————

We went through this the other nite, and I cut and pasted KP’s documemnt for you at the relevant paragraph. You assured me you read it. So, why are you doing it again?

It was not a farm worker’s truck…lol…doesn’t matter how many times you type it.

Chad Reynolds is still missing.

It doesn’t have to be determined if anyone had any connection/involvement in the Haleigh case. Chad Reynolds is just as much a suspect as the rest of them. Always has been. We don’t know any facts of ‘who was involved’ in Haleigh disappearing. That’s an open guess.
He is really suspect, esp. with his actions.

Im not sure why LE didn’t look for him more or why they can’t find him….lol, too busy trying to get Misty to confess to something she didn’t do, I suppose.

Crystal was too busy getting high and spending her money on drugs to pay child support…in my opinion. She didn’t pay it when she was not disabled, then she surely can’t use disabled as an excuse as why she wasn’t paying it.
She may get Kim P to buy her BS, but not me. She knows a whole lot more than what she is saying, lol, which isn’t anything.

Just did another search of both criminal and civil dockets at Putnam County’s Clerk of Courts and still can not find any document that states the amount of back child support owed. *me* do you have a link to the court documents?

LadySadie,

Also, Jesse Watkins was a friend of Chad’s, not a farm worker. And when questioned by police he denied the vehicle was his. I really don’t know where you get this “farm worker” stuff from and why you keep repeating it? Did Art say it was a farm worker?

LadySadie,

Also, Jesse Watkins was a friend of Chad’s, not a farm worker. And when questioned by police he denied the vehicle was his. I really don’t know where you get this “farm worker” stuff from and why you keep repeating it? Did Art say it was a farm worker?

As I said INTERNET RUMORS ARE NOT FACTS. artharris reports that the truck was registered to Jesse Watkins, I read on some other site that the truck belonged to a farm worker. Again, as far as I am concerned they are all INTERNET RUMORS and it is possible that NO DRUGS were ever found.

I hope that the Sheffield clan is responsible for HaLeigh’s disappearance. It is the only theory that bodes well for HaLeigh. I would rather they successfully hide her out for the rest of her normal life span than have any of the other theories be true. If they are never caught and punished, they have probably given HaLeigh a better life than she would have had in her past situation.

I hope that her father had nothing to do with her disappearance because that is the ultimate betrayal. Parents are supposed to love and protect their children at all costs. Whether or not he was directly involved, it appears he was not providing his children with a safe enviroment and was not what society considers a good role model.

Many people think that a 17 year old is incapable of pulling off such a crime and keeping LE at bay, with lies and constant story changes. Look at Joran Vander Sloot. He did it for 5 years. He was only 17 when Natalee Holloway disappeared and he was able to walk away free. While he had a well placed father with connections to the legal system, he still did not break. Their are people who are born liars, without a conscience and age is no indicator of who they are.

I have no problem with Misty getting 15 years. She admitted dealing drugs. Her own father warned her it was a set up. She appears to have been involved in the drug world for a while, and appeared to know her way around. She also shows no remorse for any of her actions. If she had continued down the path she was on, there is a very strong possibility she would not survive the next 15 years.

LadySadie,

So if you think there were no drugs found…

1. You think LE lied to the press about finding the crack (why wouldn’t the family be up in arms if this was a lie?); and
2. KP imagined someone told her the truck and crack were Chad’s, and she passed that imaginary story onto the Bar Association, and the family never denied it?.

Umm. OK. We are all entitled to our own opinions.

Cricket said,in June 26th, 2010 at 9:36 pm Anybody who saw that picture of Crystal and the kids didn’t have to be a photo expert that was obviously rigged.
————————

I formed the same opinion. Then when I read Kim’s email to Marie about how she got Art to deal with the problem, that sealed it for me.

You’d hope they’d have better things to do with their time than rig pics to try to make them look better. Just one of the many reasons I believe this has always been about money (the better the p.r. and image, the more they were gonna make and they knew this from the start) and never Haleigh for them. And one of the reasons they are at the top of my suspect list. With many others running a close second!

Lady,

You might also want to re-read K’s response…I think she might also talk about it. Anyhow, you can google it and you’ll probably find other links elsewhere. Unlike many of the good posters here, I haven’t bookmarked much. There was a fair bit of info about the anonymous donor etc when it was all happening.

Did you blog anywhere before this?

No I didn’t blog anywhere before here, just followed all the local/national news about Haleigh’s case as I live so close. Found this site about 3 months ago.

Does anyone know if Chad’s underage victim was a boy or a girl?

Cricket said,in June 26th, 2010 at 9:50 pm me, someone would have to be totally ignorant to put that picture out for real deal.

Kim, may have been a lawyer but has no common sense.
—————————

LOL! Do you think she knew it was done before it was out there? LOL if she did. Yes, that would certainly indicate a lack of common sense!

Alexandria Loring said,in June 26th, 2010 at 9:51 pm Does anyone know if Chad’s underage victim was a boy or a girl?
—————————————

I’m not sure about that. But given he was considered relevant to this investigation, I’d guess it was a girl. I know there is a thread at another website forum (one that I don’t recommend) dedicated to Chad Reynolds and I think there may be some info there re his first offence. If you are really interested I can see if I can find more about him….I haven’t read there for ages, don’t like the place.

me-Thanks= just that Megan’s Law only says child under 12, sex- unknown. Just thought if it had been a boy maybe they ruled him out even though he abscounded because HaLeigh was taken instead of jr. Of course with some of these offenders it doesn’t matter!

Alexandria,

Yes, I don’t think the victim’s gender is reported on the RSO website. I am going to check that thread though as I think someone may have had some details from a newspaper article or something. I’ll be back in 5-10 and let you know what I find.

http://offender.fdle.state.fl.us

just go to that website and there is Chad’s picture!
I read on websleuths that he:
On Sep. 3, 2002, Reynolds broke into a doublewide mobile home in Interlachen, which is west of Palatka. He was 19. He had a small pocketknife and it was late at night.\
He stole cash. He also used the knife to cut away a section of the shorts and underwear of an 11-year-old girl and then touched her private area, the records showed. He was sentenced to serve seven years in prison (with credit for time served in jail awaiting resolution of his case) and 10 years of special probation for sex offenders.

I don’t know how much Crystal owed in back child support but I do know according to court documents that she was ordered to pay over 300 dollars a month in child support. One year behind would make it around 3600 dollars (give or take a few dollars) so I believe that 12000 behind is more accurate (but my opinion only). Though I cannot find an accurate reporting of the approximate arrearage, be it 4000 or 12000 she owed it to her children to pay it!

robin- in my county, it’s contempt of court for not paying child support. It’s 5 days in PC for each month missed, then they take away your driver’s license & tell you to go dumpster diving for recycleables to help pay the support! They don’t want any excuse.

JenM, in this case it could also be that it was just an accident, re: Ron could have fatally injured Haleigh and the rest went into protect Ron mode and cover up mode.

This is what I remember from research done at the begining of Haleigh’s case.

Chad Reynolds broke into a MH in Putnam county (I believe Palatka but not sure) and sexually assaulted a little girl while her sister was also asleep in the same room and the parents down the hall. CR was living in St Petersburg at the time but was from Putnam county. He was charged with Lewd and Las, victim under 12. He was also charged with burglary while armed, he had a knife that he threatened the child with.

The link is now dead at Baker County press, but here is a snip from it:

“An officer taking part in the search from the Palatka Police Department found two crack pipes and a plastic container with cocaine residue inside a pickup truck parked at the property, according to a report from Deputy Jerald Peterson of the Baker County Sheriff’s Office.”

ORIGINAL LINK:

http://bakercountypress.com/index.ph…=2322&Itemid=1

(If you do not want to take my word that it existed, it is quoted at Websleuth in the media thread. I am not sure if Jan wants me to link to Websleuth. If she will allow it, I will be more than happy to link there. If not, anyone can find it themselves. It is on page 21 of the MEDIA/LINKS ONLY thread. Post #513)

Your welcome Alex.

Oh another thing I remember, Chad was 18 at the time he offended, LE found blood at the MH at the point of entrance/exit from the home and matched it to Chad. To me that would mean that Chad’s dna must have been on file, perhaps from a sexual offense when he was a minor. I can’t think of any other reason that they would have been able to get a match.

I’m reading through all the info re Chad Reynolds and some early posts elsewhere were saying that his grandparents lived at Lake Crescent, which is quite close to where Haleigh was living.

J I remember reading it in the Baker county paper.

Alex I don’t know if they can see a juvie record or not. He got 7 years, I believe, and 10 years probation.

LadySadie said,in June 26th, 2010 at 10:29 pm Yes, I liked OJ’s article regarding the Sarasota officers also, it is nice to see a Police Department holding their officers to high standards.
———————————-

Ha ha ha. I assume you are being sarcastic. Hardly sounded like a “high standard” of behaviour to me! I am sure glad there were civilian witnesses. How dumb can undercovers be as to go out and get drunk and all 7 of them blow their cover? What a waste of taxpayer money training those idiots, and I can only imagine how many cases will now be reviewed due to their bizarre, far less than professional, conduct.

me, his m.o. is scary.

LadySadie said,
in June 26th, 2010 at 9:31 pm

As I said INTERNET RUMORS ARE NOT FACTS. artharris reports that the truck was registered to Jesse Watkins, I read on some other site that the truck belonged to a farm worker. Again, as far as I am concerned they are all INTERNET RUMORS and it is possible that NO DRUGS were ever found.
——–
He reported that it was Jesse Watkins because that is what he was told by that side. Art was no where near FL at the time and hadn’t been for many months, he repeats what he’s been told by “sources close to the investigation” Peggy Cone was the one that found the stuff in the pickup.

Chad had only been out of prison for 3 months when Haleigh went missing. He was last heard from on the 3rd of Feb, just 6 days before Haleigh went missing.

So, if this Chad person had anything to do with whatever happened to Haleigh, why is Misty protecting him?

Maybe Misty isn’t protecting anybody. Maybe Misty was actually sleeping or not home and doesn’t have a clue what happened to Haleigh.

So if Misty isn’t protecting anyone, why all her lies, why can’t she pass a LDT, why has she changed her story so many times?

Why the very strange 911 call? Why does Misty say “your hurting me”, who is the third voice in the background of the 911 call?

Lady,

As for whether or not they were involved in Haleigh’s case, I doubt we’ll ever know. I doubt the undercover officer’s identity will be revealed and he will probably be allowed to use a pseudonym in court (at least that would happen where I live).

I don’t know that she hasn’t passed a LDT, nor do you, since LE has NOT released their results. I see small inconsistencies in her story BUT the major parts have always been the same. She put Haleigh to bed at 8, covered her at 10, she went to bed, woke up Haleigh was gone. She has not wavered from that that I have heard.

I do not think saying she got up to pee or to get a drink as anything major. Something woke her, she probably has no idea what it was, if it was somebody in the house, or she had to pee, or she was thirsty. Something woke her, and Haleigh was gone. That has not changed in 16 months.

We don’t know if the Sarasota officers were driving drunk, the investigation was unable to determine that. Yes I consider the department did the right thing by discipline the officers for conduct unbecoming. Since they were unable to determine if the officers actually did anything illegal, I am surprised that they did anything at all. So I consider it honorable that the department disciplined them at all.

And I find it very unlikely that Sarasota officers had anything to do with a Putnam County case.

No *me* LE did not say they were satisfied with the results, Ron said she passed, big difference.

Well, WhyLie, in KimP’s rebuttal, she stated that Chad and Crystal told her they could get a loan from a family member to pay the back child support.

LadySadie said,in June 26th, 2010 at 11:42 pm No *me* LE did not say they were satisfied with the results, Ron said she passed, big difference.
—————————————–

Yes, they did say that. Right into a camera! After the initial tests. They changed their tune later.

LadySadie said,
in June 26th, 2010 at 11:34 pm

vaq, you have seen the 3 checks sent to Kim P? You have seen that they totaled over $12,000? How is it not rumor if the information only came from Kim P?
++++++++++

The copies of the checks are posted on Art’s site.

The checks are as follows:

4/20/09 Check # 5184 in the amount $ 2,000.00

4/28/09 Check # 5189 in the amount $ 2,100.00

6/12/09 Check # 5204 in the amount $ 8,317.94

For a total of $ 12,417.94

And you can see copies of all the checks under the article titled:

Exclusive: Haleigh Mom Mystery Donor Records

J said,in June 26th, 2010 at 11:47 pm
The copies of the checks are posted on Art’s site.

The checks are as follows:

4/20/09 Check # 5184 in the amount $ 2,000.00

4/28/09 Check # 5189 in the amount $ 2,100.00

6/12/09 Check # 5204 in the amount $ 8,317.94

For a total of $ 12,417.94

And you can see copies of all the checks under the article titled:

Exclusive: Haleigh Mom Mystery Donor Records
——————————

Thank you for that! I forgot they were there. I wonder what the identity theft was about? Very odd.

When John Walsh featured Haleigh on AMW, he stated that LE had confirmed that both Ron and Misty had taken LDT and they were satisfied with the results.

Ahhh, yes, artharris site, the checks could have been altered or faked, they were supposedly sent to Kim P not Crystal so really who is guilty of identity theft?

Here is the entry in the court documents:

***
06/18/2009 063.MEMO FROM FINANCE TO KIM PICAZIO: PAYMENT OF UNCOLLECTED
06/18/2009 FUNDS HOLD DUE TO IDENTIFY THEFT
****

The memo regarding identify theft was sent to Kim Picazio, so who committed Identify Theft? The checks were supposedly sent to Kim Picazio, so who committed Identify Theft?

Hey WhyLie, I will repeat my standard statement (altered due to Haleigh having 2 younger brothers and a younger sister)

I have yet to hear of one decent ADULT human being related to Haleigh, poor baby!