Enjoyed the show Simon, Jan and Guests!

Seems like TJ and Peter think there will be some explanation
in the not so distant future. Of course with my short memory I don’t recall who said it but they think there may be 2 more arrests. Did I get that right?

They are finding a way to justice in drug trafficking cases.

Are they supposed to ignore tips that dealing by parites to the Haleigh disappearance is going on? Imo, no.

Flordia has specific weight requirements for the penalty to each offense.

Misty looks to be the only one going to trial. I hope so. I want to see how it goes.

All the video tape is going to be tough to overcome but her attorney can try anything and see if a jury will buy it.

I’ll be glad to see more evidence on her and see what it actually means and how it stands up to cross examination. Should be interesting.

Two more arrests? I didn’t know there had been any. The only arrests I know of on those connected with Haleigh are on drug charges. Wonder who those 2 arrests are? Is that true?

Her lawyer could also go with the theory that Donna (an older woman) had a heavy influence on Misty and led her down this road for her own gain. I think a lot of things will be taken into account. I can’t wait to find out what happens either.

if we don’t find out about Haleigh from misty then that will suck.

But, imo, she shouldn’t have been dealing. People knew she and ron and tommy had access to pills.

Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time, imo.

I think all charges are related to drugs. Except Tommy robbing houses of stupid things like household products. I am still not convinced that any of these people know what happened to Haleigh. They are all trying to making Deals to lessen prison time. Know evidence I can’t point blame.
Great show tonight kids. Silly girl should get credit for tape retrieval.

Like T.J. said the last time it got this quiet in this case, something broke, like the river search. I think it is too quiet since the river search, and they aren’t releasing any tapes. There has to be a reason. Even Hank and Lisa have been awfully quiet. I wonder if they are still in town? I wonder if Lyndsy is still visiting Tommy?

Karon

I thought he said arrests but wasn’t sure. You are probably right. Two more names coming up…and what could that mean???

I think it is so quiet because LE is getting their ducks in a row before they announce anything, so as to avoid a huge circus. They want all the facts straight and their case made. That’s just my opinion though.

Well hopefully Jen they will soon quack the case!

Krislyn

I have swayed also, to the point where I suspect everyone and yet no one.

I think I may have come full circle too.

The input here is very diverse but everyone has good ideas and questions that really make you think.

I just hope we get some answers soon…

Yes I believe to that the Sheffields may have. I really do not think Ron did from what all I have read. I think I have come to that conclusion. However I do know he robbed a drug dealer a week before Haleigh went missing so thats a possibility.

I guess I can find a scenario to go with any of them to show they could of done it. In that case, we have to step back and look at motive, means and stuff like that. I am suspicious of everyone of them. There is way more questions than answers and way too little clues.

But there are a few things that I stick by no matter what.
One of them is that “The Truth Is In the Lie”.
Another one is that “there is no evidence, no body, no suspects, no persons of interest, no proof, no nothing”.
The other is that “The only fact we know for sure is that Haleigh is Missing”.

JenM

your right. so many scenarios. so many roads and poor Haleigh I hate to think of where she could be. I hope she is ok and will come home in right hands.

The real problem in figuring it out is not knowing what’s fact or fiction. Or who the info came from. Seriously if Ronald really robbed a drug dealer a week before that sounds like a possible revenge motive. But the usual questions that arise are the behaviors, inconsistencies and lies that make every one else seem so suspect too.

I have wondered if it could have been a gang involvement that everyone is just too scared to talk about. They can get you in jail too, I guess, so that could be an explanation to me. There are a lot of major drug cartels in that area from what I have read. (not sure if cartel is the right word though).

Yes, gangs are revengeful. Joe is still suspect to me and I think he could of had some ties. He didn’t get the gun he was supposed to, so not sure what that means.
I know that gangs have initiations too and they can be cruel. Sometimes you have to kill someone to prove you are worthy to be in the gang. Maybe this is where Haleigh came in? Maybe show he was brave enough to do it?
Who knows. Just a thought.

What gets me is that supposedly Ron is seeking a plea deal. So what info could he give them now that he wasn’t willing to give them already, if he isn’t involved. Who would he have been protecting and why?

JenM said,in June 13th, 2010 at 9:49 pm Jaba, she probably could of, but she is being set up. I betcha, if she has a smart lawyer, the jury will see it was entrapment, solely based on trying to get answers to the Haleigh case, which hasn’t proved anything. If I was a juror, I sure would look at that closely. Her sentence is not justified either. They were trying to scare her, I think. Didn’t work. But that is just my opinion.
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that is FACT!!
misty was set up like a bowling pin and is now being drugged to fatten her up for SLAUGHTER!!!
like they did to Hope!
Hardy and his buffoon LE stooges can’t even FRAME someone right!!! MORONS!!!!!
Look how the IDIOT’S son turned out!!!!!!!
What a JOKE!!HA HA HAAAAAAAAAA

Hey everyone-

OJ - I’m laughing my Bum off at the image of them fattening Misty up for slaughter, to funny

I also think Ron is going to testify in the drug case only, although nothing is set in stone yet, I think before its over they are all going to play who can make a deal

I hope and pray that Misty tells all she knows about Ron, if there is anything she is holding back, of course I think there is and I hope she can stay strong and sing like a canary about anything she knows and makes a deal before she goes to court ,otherwise I’m afraid she will get 50 years jmo

KrisLyn said,in June 14th, 2010 at 12:01 am oh yea Im so tired too my point about Jeremiahs cane is,, his comments online is dancin and surfin. there is a pic of him on wayanne krugers myspace that he has a cane in and her note at the bottem said he had cane 90% of time?!

its funny how there is no info on them. Usually people say I know him from here or there but they just showed up one day? I dont buy it.
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I am still trying to figure out why the police knew about that fake search and did nothing about it,My God In Heaven People,Ain’t that like obstruction or something!!!!

LOL CJ. Mary, I think he could provide info on Misty and Tommy. It’s not all on the tapes. He could give out info on past drug deals, connections, and all sorts of stuff. Doesn’t have to be about Haleigh or covering for anyone.

JenM said,
in June 13th, 2010 at 11:20 pm

I mentioned in the other post that I think they are going to announce who the suspect is and who the accomplices are. I hope they put charges on those who gave false information knowingly to LE to provide an alibi for certain people. But who knows, could be anyone at this point.
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I hope you aren’t going to hold your breath on that one? LOL, don’t want you passing out waiting.

I wonder if Misty was hinting to Chelsea that the one they care about is Timmy and the other is Joe, since she might figure that Tommy is already in jail and caught? Just a thought, but could be true.

Aug. 29, 2009: EquuSearch looks for clues of Haleigh but finds nothing in an area Misty Croslin-Cummings talked about while taking tests to clear her name. She told searchers to look for a red rose in a wooded area running from the St. Johns River east behind the house where Haleigh lived.
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Did anybody ever find out how it came about that Misty mentioned to look for a rose,I don’t get it??

Because family had searched that area earlier and seen the rose. The area had been searched a few times in the beginning and Tim/TES searched it again after that and found nothing

ohhhhhh, Thank You Vaq,thats the first time I got the answer and thats drove me crazy since it came up,lol

They made it sound like she was under hypnosis,lol but i thought,hey wait a minute she wasn’t under,she fought it!

Criminal defense lawyers do not often assert the entrapment defense in criminal cases, particularly drug cases, because it does not apply in most cases. However, there are cases where the entrapment defense is a valid defense when a person is charged with a drug crime in Florida.

For instance, in a recent case, a defendant was charged with trafficking in cocaine after he set up a drug deal between a cocaine supplier and a buyer who turned out to be a confidential informant (CI) for the police. His criminal defense lawyer argued that the defendant was entrapped into committing the trafficking crime. The defendant testified that he was addicted to cocaine and also used other illegal drugs, such as marijuana and heroin. He could not afford his drug habit and needed a way to make some money. The CI approached him and asked him if he could arrange a deal for a large amount of cocaine. Several times, the defendant told the CI that he was not interested. However, the CI persisted and finally offered the defendant some of the cocaine if he would arrange the drug deal. The defendant agreed and was arrested by police for trafficking in cocaine right before the deal was done.

The standard for entrapment in Florida is as follows: it is not entrapment when the police intend to disrupt ongoing criminal activity and use reasonable means to do so. Alternatively, if the police are going out of their way to take advantage of someone who is not otherwise involved in drug trafficking or a related drug crime, and they use unreasonable methods to do it, the defense of entrapment can work. However, if the state can show that the defendant is predisposed to commit the drug crime, i.e. he/she has sold or been involved with illegal drugs before or was familiar with how drug deals work and the terminology, the entrapment defense is problematic, unless the defendant can show that the police’s conduct was particularly outrageous.

Criminal defense lawyers do not often use the entrapment defense in drug cases. However, the law does allow it, and there are circumstances where it may be applicable. If it is successful, the drug charges will be dismissed.

Well, I think they got LE on some of these points you mentioned….

(Alternatively, if the police are going out of their way to take advantage of someone who is not otherwise involved in drug trafficking or a related drug crime) Well, I don’t think Misty was involved with a drug crime or in drug trafficking prior to this…unless Ron is going to provide some sort of proof??

(However, if the state can show that the defendant is predisposed to commit the drug crime, i.e. he/she has sold or been involved with illegal drugs before or was familiar with how drug deals work and the terminology) which I think they might can do….Then

(the entrapment defense is problematic,)

(unless the defendant can show that the police’s conduct was particularly outrageous.)
I find it particularly outrageous. They did it to find out what they could about Haleigh and to make their own selves look good.

T.J., also, said something about Christmas presents(drugs) being delivered in advance and, then some people didn’t have the money to pay for them.(Could he have meant Ronald) He, also, mentioned one person that was just vicious and mean that would hurt people.(I wondered who this was, and if he hurt Haleigh in retalliation because Ron didn’t have the money to pay for the drugs that he had delivered?) I went back and listened to the show again to hear what T.J. said, and I am going to listen again more carefully. He, also, said he thought this felt like the calm before something big comes out in this case.

This might fit because Ron told the UC that drug boys kill your family and let you come in and find them dead. It could be that the drug boys killed HC and left her there, and ToC and JO got rid of the body, and RC was in on it. They may have been warned to expect retalliation if they didn’t come up with the money and that was why RC kept calling that night. That may have been why MC didn’t want to keep the kids that night and why she said, “if someone comes in and puts a gun in your mouth and tells you not to tell, NuHuh” If something happened to HC there in the MC, they had to get rid of her body to keep LE from finding out about the fact that they were selling drugs.

Cathyjo my posting about 2 arrests may come in the future. This was on the blog radio show tonight. Will check to verify wording about “arrests” in case I am wrong. OJ spoke about misinformation with me and I will try to be sure of wording.
If it was a drug pay back why take Haleigh and not junior or misty. Watched Dateline this weekend and it was on the ” fox” case. LE focused only on father even had him confess. DNA latter over turned verdict and he was free. Ended up some neighbor that was actually suggested as suspect early on from his girl friend.

As far as Ron robbing a drug dealer, the drug dealers that were questioned said they did not know Ron, WBG and Jerome. Jerome even offered his help to try and find out what happened to Haleigh in exchange for legal favors.

Jerome has been around the block a time or two and knows a lot of people and yet he came up empty. If Ron had robbed a dealer you can bet that the other dealers would have known about it, or heard rumblings about it.

The only one that seemed to have the info that Ron robbed a dealer was Nay Nay, who then passed it on to WBG.

I totally agree about the Grand Jury statement. It appears to be the only alternative @ this point. Without a confession, a body, or the truth, what else could they do?
With Sheriff Hardy coming in recently and issuing orders to crack down on the drug activity, I don’t see any in the drug community talking with anyone about anything.
IMO

Hi Everyone!

CJ- Is the Sheriff’s son in PC or GP ? In Putnam County or another county?

Alex: Hardy’s son is in Putnam Co. and more than likely in PC but don’t know for sure. The PCSD website only gives case info and not much else.

Thanks stilllucy & Becky ! I just wondered if was in the same location as Ron!

good morning ladies,
don’t take me so literally bio..
facts seem to morph in this case.

There were rumblings in Satsuma the very morning of the 10th of Feb, 2009. Citizens were stating ” That if Ron had paid his drug debt that his daughter would not be gone”. I heard this from a group standing around say this with my own ears”.
In the Barbara Freeman tapes we hear about Ron burning a drug dealer for 26,000. We also hear this woman say that Misty was deeply involved. They knew Ron and Misty. The only reason Jerome came up empty is because before they could put the plan in motion for him get info on Haleigh Cummings is because he got busted and was sent to jail. Jerome was transferred to St.Johns County and then brought back to Putnam for his court appearances. Where he is now I am not sure.JMO

lfJ, In which case Ron’s actions that appear to be cover-up behaviors would be to cover his drug world tracks? Makes sense.

tommy already plead guilty, no need to testify against him.

Hi Cate Goodmorning!
Im a newbe

KrisLyn welcome, LE more than likely talked to alot of people. The Cobra tapes can be found here in the BNN archives. The guys name is Jerome Williams. Barbara also speaks of Donnie Spells as being part of the drug trade. Donnie Spells is the father of Christina Prevatts( Nay Nay) daughter. Donnie has custody .

The tapes are in March. dated the 8th 2010. The sound is very distorted, but if you listen with head phones you can hear them more clearly.

Hi, KrisLyn, and welcome! I’ve read your posts and am happy that you are here.

Thanks Cate

Im glad Im here too. Seems like I finally am getting better information and understanding what makes sense of what is going on really.

The corruption in Putnam county and the cover ups!

looking for Justice said,in June 14th, 2010 at 10:10 am The tapes are in March. dated the 8th 2010. The sound is very distorted, but if you listen with head phones you can hear them more clearly.

thanks for the tip my dog chewed my headphones! haha I may have some more. can you tell me where to find the tapes from freeman on ron? thank you!

KrisLyn said,in June 14th, 2010 at 9:55 am Hi CathyJo

you said: I am still trying to figure out why the police knew about that fake search and did nothing about it,My God In Heaven People,Ain’t that like obstruction or something!!!!

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Im still wondering that too.

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That’s the 64 Million Dollar Question, isn’t it? (Or maybe just $35,000.)

looking for Justice said,in June 14th, 2010 at 10:29 am KrisLyn, Look to your left on the home page. Click on March 2010. Scroll until you come to March 8th. It s called the strange tapes. Click on that article and there you will find the tapes. I believe there are 5.

Thank you!

Cate you could be right that it is 35,000.

Cate

Jeremaih was there at the fake search and he is not someone we really know who he is. I know the pastor that was there isnt his dad no one knows who he is either.

I see him with cobra picking up naynay on the video pretty sure thats him. He came here before Haleigh went missing. (however he had a cane in pics with wayanne kruger on her FB and MSpace) so either he is undercover or?? who is he?

then Im not sure if it is true but docs stating the pastor told wayanne the cops were involved in a child prostitution ring?

all of this is so confusing.

ANON, I believe little Haleigh is gone due to what has been reported, but I think how great it would be if she were not!

Jerome was a big time dealer it seems in Putnam county. Jerome was arrested on multiple drug charges with a bond of over $31,000 and was able to bond himself out within hours. He had 1 month to come up with info on Haleigh and came up with zilch.

If Ron had robbed a big time dealer in Putnam county I am sure Jerome would have known about it. Since Jerome was facing big time for that arrest, I am sure he dug deep to find out anything he could to help him with his legal matters. He came up with zilch.

Take it for what it is worth, but the people that are claimed to be among the biggest dealers in Putnam county, Williams and WBG, neither knew Ron nor knew anything about him robbing any dealer.

HI texasmommy39 ! thank you

WhyLie, Jerome was a big time drug dealer. WBG also dealt drugs. Donnie Spells was mentioned in the tapes as being a big time drug dealer right along with Charles Jones Jr. The last two I mentioned definitely knew Ron. I will search out the article on Jerome Williams.

I thought that it was WBG’s father who is a Big Time Drug Dealer.

BAC, wasn’t it you who came up with the “Cummings Ball” yesterday? ROFLMAO!!!!!!!

Donnie Spells is the one that gave Nay Nay her alibi for the night Haleigh disappeared.

I believe Williams would have known had Ron robbed a big time dealer in the area. Word like that gets around on the street among dealers.

There was some rumblings early on that Nay Nay and Amber were at the MH that night BUT Spells gave Nay Nay an alibi.

beautiful, just rumblings from early on in the case along with Gregs arrest history.

In this article it stipulates the conversation between Cobra and Jerome was approx. May 4, 2009 and on May 12th, 2009 Jerome was arrested and on the 13th he was released from Putnam and sent to St. Johns County facility.
I agree with what you are saying WhyLie, but on the 10th of Feb 2009 I heard people stating exactly what I posted above. The word must have been out if people were talking and stating things like that about Ron. JMO

Cate (aka Kate) said,
in June 14th, 2010 at 11:05 am

I thought that it was WBG’s father who is a Big Time Drug Dealer.

BAC, wasn’t it you who came up with the “Cummings Ball” yesterday? ROFLMAO!!!!!!!
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Yes, that is/was me! I am also the one that started the Hank ‘Magic Man’ Sr.(Chelsea said that in an AH interview)

BAC, Nice. I love “Magic Man,” too. Never catch him without his shades!

I was again think this morning about the silver van LE was looking for during their search of the St.James River. I am speculating that the owner or driver of said van had to of been identified to even lend credibility to LE justification to link it to the crime scene at the end of Shell Harbor.
IMO it would make more sense if someone recognized a particular player (one that was not locked up) and called in the tip to LE. I am sure Tommy was not in the position to tell that a silver van was connected to the crime scene if it was seen in the area recently, that would indicate a resident was the the one that called in the credible tip. JMO

texas, OR LE got yet another bit of info wrong and they should have been asking about a BLUE van.

WhyLie that could have happened. Do I believe this all could stem from the drug world? Yes ,I do. It is very possible.
Texas I agree with your post on the grey van in the Shell Harbor incident.

Misty needs to take the drug case to trial. Not only for her but for everyone. It’s a safety thing. People have to feel safe that their kids can go on a holiday to the park and not be subjected to officers that ask them to sell a few pills. Or kids that buy a few and next thing known is the kid is in prison for life maybe in another country. It would wipe a family out. Kids will be kids and are vulnerable to this crap type of Policing. A kid is vulnerable to thinking he/she may make a few bucks or some fun at a high school grad party. That choice is hardly a reflection of who they are or will come to be or what they will do in the world. It is the same choice a lot of the cops themselves have made and or their kids only the law is handed down differently to them. The laws there regarding pills are insane truly insane. As for Haleigh Cummings if Misty knows more then she needs to come completely clean. I still think the obstacle with Tommy is he was part of setting up a robbery that may have lead to a murder. I think this explains his stories and his lies. I also think there is some one else involved in some aspect of the crime. JMHO
God bless Haleigh and all her families

texas, I went over Werter’s time table laid out in his presser, no way do I believe that LE had anything other then what TC gave them, and that is what led to the search.

Have we heard Misty’s taped convo with GHollar? No we have not. It could not be less or more than what Tommy stated and agreed to so why did we not get to hear that particulate tape? Because it does not exist?

Flordians, through their state governments , imo, set the penalties for broken laws.

They want to help stop dealers and hence, the stiff penalties. Imo

misty could have turned in the UC for trying to buy pills. She could have said no and walked away or never took another call from the UC, imo.
Ron could have. Tommy could have. Hope could have. Donna B could have…but, none did.

As far as us hearing the tape between G.Hollar and Misty is evidence.

I gotta run, but, will be back later.

lfJ, But why would the tape between G. Hollar and Misty be evidence and the one between G. Hollar and Tommy is not?

texas, I agree. Werter’s actions are questionable BUT if he gave an accurate accounting of the time frame, then I just don’t see where LE got anything other then what Tommy gave them.

If you look up Charles James Jones in the dockets you will see this is the CJ Barbara was probably talking about he has a very long record of drugs. More than likely the drug dealer. jmo

Our Charles Jones in the road rage is Charles Norman Jones. jmo

AMEN! Tobias.

tobias, Isn’t Charles James Jones, the senior, the big time drug dealer and Charles Norman Jones is the junior, the one who Misty stayed with for a while?

and another thing is ok,Mg and them requested their own property to be searched,now i don’t know but the police usually have to have some good leads to investigate and won’t search if its not credible enough or am i wrong about that??
I just don’t see how or WHY they asked them to search??? could have been a smoke screen!!!!!

CathyJo I agree I wondered what may have caused this search in Baker County. There could of been accussations and they wanted them put to rest.JMO

TrotLine,I sent you an email to yahoo about a week or so ago,LoL
Wondered if you’d gotten it cause I promised I’d email ya and don’t want you thinking I just didn’t do it,lol
Hope all is well with you and yours,Haven’t seen ya in forever,LoL

Also Looking the way MG defended Chad made me very uneasy!!!!

Ng is ‘info-tainment’ not ‘news’ in the traditional way.

Her ratings , like all of cnn, are way under their competitors.

I think ron was suspicious of anyone coming around his ‘posse’ becasue of their dealing.

I think ron was warning misty about donna over drug dealing as much as Haleigh’s disappearance.

Why else would he tip off misty?

Robin, Yes, although LE would have been doing it for a very specific purpose. Either they had strong LEGITIMATE reason to look at Misty et al or strong ILLEGITIMATE reason. As for Geraldo, I assume he didn’t investigate Crystal’s side of the family much before jumping on their attack wagon, similar to Kim P.?

Robin, I messed up that post bad when I got interrupted… My thought was that Geraldo and LE would have been focusing on Ron’s people for somewhat different reasons. Not that you think otherwise, I just want to be clear about it. The real question for me is whether LE is overfocused on Ron’s family and associates for LEGITIMATE (strong, credible evidence from the get-go that they have not released) v ILLEGITIMATE (Sheffield/Griffis maternal family abduction).

Ibelieve it came from Tim Miller that Ron called Misty and Donna called TM and told him.jmo

In my opinion,Mg would have been the one to head the organization of Haleigh going missing,I still stick by my latest theory tho and if it’s wrong they should kick Maries door down next!
I don’t think Crystal is even able to be smart enough to keep a secret for herself,let alone anybody else and I don’t think MG would even trust Crystal to know?

Why didn’t Geraldo delve into Crystal and Maries Dru history?

Ron tipped off Misty to what? That Donna was with TES? They knew that already because that weekend of the tests in Orlando they stayed at Donna’s house in Aug.

And if you take all the media out of this case we only have what LE has said which wouldnt leave much to go on. jmo

Tobias you are correct it was Tim Miller who gave the info on Ron tipping off Misty who Donna was.
I will look up the Charles James Jones you are talking about. He is not the road rage Charles though.

Shoot,the whole world knows Crystals baby was born with drugs in her system,Then she failed a test that we know of after she got custody,and what Has been done to Ron and Misty don’t even come close to what we have heard about the sheff side and they’re in the same class!!!!!!!
Look at Mg,Sent her daughter at age 14 to Rons house and just said,”He just never brought her back”???
Hmmmmmm just like Mistys Mom and They’re not even related?

CathyJo, Crystal went in front of the media and told about her drug usage. Ronald denied using drugs in front of the media. Haleigh was surrounded by drugs, but she disappeared from Rons home. Neither one of these parents were taking the best interest for their children.JMO

le made a mockery since day one,they focused right in on misty when at the time Cs had more motive than anyone! ya know..jmo

vaquera said,in June 14th, 2010 at 1:22 am Since she was talking to Chelsea if it were Timmy I would think she would say one we love but I do think she’s talking about Joe and Tommy and at this point I don’t think Joe had a thing do to with it.

He took and passed an FBI LDT and was basically cleared back in Feb or Mar. He was interviewed again some months later. There are no forensics in the van or it would not have been released. LE got all of Joe’s clothes he had with him down in FL. He stayed around the day after Haleigh went missing and helped put up fliers with Misty.

So Joe Overstreet did take a polygraph for the FBI? and passed? I was under the impression that Joe did not take one, under the advice of his attorney.

Cathy, It could be because Crystal may have passed her poly and Misty didnt. Misty was the last person to see Haleigh. I also dont believe for one second that LE told Ron he pased his poly they never tell you that. jmo

I read he had taken one as soon as they learned what Misty said when Haleigh first went missing!

and I also think they misled the public just like the audio of TN and Rons audio in jail,misleading us to believe he was working undercover? jmo

CathyJo, I do not believe it was the media that focused on Misty. I believe it was the statements coming out about her inconsistencies from LE. Media covered when they went to Baker County, Massachussetts and Tennessee. They have covered every angle of this case. The focus is on Misty because LE stated she was the key.JMO

Cathy, lol That was a real big mistake on their part. But they didnt know about the videos did they. Shows just how much they were willing to mislead the public. They thought we would all fall for it. Pressure on LE to drop the charges from an angry public. jmo

I agree there too Jaba,My husbands mama used to blame me because he stayed gone and drinking all the time,I said,My God,I am home with my daughter,how can i make him stop? If i could i’d have done it from day one,I hate when people blame others because someone does something,Misty would have gotten her drugs anywhere,you see Donna wasn’t with her when she got robbed!

Right On Sister Tobias,exactly,why would you do that if you’re innocent,If it were me and I didn’t know my results,I’d say “Hey,I don’t care if i passed or not,don’t worry me either way” ya know?????????

She even makes this statement on the wesh 2 news video at the airport. She said the weekend was also a lie. Go look at it, she lies just about everything on that video even if she is going to NY. WHY? JMO

yessssss Tobias,dunno how i had forgotten that but i did read it last night,well not read,heard it on the video??

KrisLyn said,
in June 14th, 2010 at 10:39 am

Cate

Jeremaih was there at the fake search and he is not someone we really know who he is. I know the pastor that was there isnt his dad no one knows who he is either.

I see him with cobra picking up naynay on the video pretty sure thats him. He came here before Haleigh went missing. (however he had a cane in pics with wayanne kruger on her FB and MSpace) so either he is undercover or?? who is he?

then Im not sure if it is true but docs stating the pastor told wayanne the cops were involved in a child prostitution ring?

all of this is so confusing.
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The pastor is indeed Jeremiah’s father, Pastor John Regan.

Yes! Tobias I agree

WhyLie said,
in June 14th, 2010 at 9:37 am

I am trying to find out when the Grand Jury convenes in Putnam. So far I have found nothing.
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I looked too. I wonder if they have a local county grand jury or a combined grand jury for the 7th district?? Like the state’s attorney works for the 7th district and not just Putnam County

I know you know the facts Vaq,did Ron really say to the preacher that he came home from work 8 hrs later,and she was gone?

vaquera said,
in June 14th, 2010 at 2:06 pm
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It could very well be a District Grand Jury. I know they are secretive but goodness I can’t find anything.

WhyLie…that may very well be her first truth,lol jmo

CathyJo that is what the Preacher said on NG.

WhyLie said,
in June 14th, 2010 at 1:33 pm

Tobias, Hmmmmm. Steph was there in NYC. I don’t believe that Ron “warned” Misty. I believe that Misty found out through media and probably was ripping
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In addition to the “story” of Ronald texting Misty, it has also been reported (I’ll have to go digging to remember where I read it) that Misty did in fact learn via the media that Donna was working against her - I believe it was on Nancy Grace via Art Harris (and Art reported it).

So, which story are we to believe? Oh wait, I know, the one that makes Ronald look guilty, of course! (rolls eyes)

CathyJo63 said,
in June 14th, 2010 at 2:02 pm

why was JM removed from the case??
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I posted about this on the last thread, it didn’t show up right away due to the link, so you may have missed the post.

Merchant is the head of homicide at PCSO. He worked the case early on, and then stopped as there was no evidence of a homicide. He was NEVER “removed” from the case.

He is back ON the case as the lead. There is a fairly recent article discussing Merchant meeting with both Crystal and Ronald and what their options are regarding HaLeigh and whether or not they might want to have her declared dead (without waiting the 7 years and no body).

Here is a quote from the article:

(Dated April 21st)

Detective John Merchant, the lead investigator in the Haleigh Cummings homicide case, says police need to build a strong case without a body. Members from the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office met with the parents of Haleigh Cummings today to let them know their options.

(SNIP)

According to Merchant he presented two options to parents Ronald Cummings and Crystal Sheffield about a funeral for Haleigh: The couple could wait seven years for Haleigh to be declared dead by the state of Florida and then be issued a death certificate or they can go before a judge before the seven years lapses to request a death certificate.

(Due to copyright laws, I will post the link in the next post. That way, this post will go up right away)

J, Tim Miller went public I believe, on the same day that Misty did the Early Show. We all know that the families watch NG so very possible she found out through media. Or he77 media could have been calling Misty to get a statement from her about it.

I just doubt Ron messaged Misty while she was doing the Early Show to tell her anything.

It was also reported that Ron was on his way to the Maury show to tape when he sent Shoemaker to do the Morning Show. Shoemaker said they were all sick. I believe the media on this one because Ron was definetly not going to talk about the divorce and Misty was there to blame the other side. Ron didnt want it to look like it was his idea to blame them. jmo

Tobias that is a very good point.

Cell phones have call block for a reason. Not to hard to get rid of the UC.JMO

I think Donna had some “problems” long before she ever got mixed up with this case.

Wow I seem to have interupted your conversation flow. Sorry about that.

Hank sr will admit that mc and tc are ‘middle men runners’…I don’t know if hank is soft selling as a parent might, or what, but hank is helping nail misty with comments like that. He will be called in mistys trial, if there is one.

I think hanks knows that misty was predisposed to selling pills or weed or whatever which the d/a will need to show per florida law. There probably will be others testifying to the same thing. Imo

Not answering the phone, letting it go to vmail and erasing that vmail, deleting texts, …all this could have been done to the UC.

Misty could have threatened the UC that she would tell the police on him.

She could have just said she couldn’t get them at all until he went away or she just started avoiding calls.

Many things could have been done, but she went the trafficking route, imo, anyway.

We’ll see in august.

I agree that the only reason for the drug sting was an attempt to find out what happened to Haleigh. Dear Lord,seems like everyone in these kids’ lives were involved in drugs in someway.I’m not taking up for Misty but she is young and was raised thinking the lifestyle of drugs are normal(as long as you’re not caught).
I’m not sure who did what to Haleigh.Everyone involved are druggies,lie and steal.I would LOVE to believe Haleigh is alive and with someone that loves her,not on drugs,doesn’t physically or mentally hurt her but i just havn’t convinced myself of that yet.

I think le got tips during their investigation of haleighs disappearance that lead them to pull a sting. They had reports of active crime and you can’t turn that away, can you? Seems like it was a credible tip from what I’ve seen. Which isn’t everything by no means. Imo

Maybe donna plays the entrapment card too?

She looks to be a text book trafficker form out of state doctor shopping to hand to hand deals. But, she’s entitled to her day in court too.

I wonder if she will plead out?

I think you are right, they were all dealin, or had dealt, and certainly would deal again.

I wonder why didn’t misty and ron ignore the UC altogether and walk away?

TexasMommy39 @ 11:34am

Ron - Motive- couldn’t get anyone to watch the kids for him, one gone,everyone feels sorry & jr has instant babysitters! He could have asked Crystal but didn’t want to lose custody or he would be in the child support boat.
Misty - motive- she wants to party, she has been Ron’s slave, maid, child care & sex provider and wanted some time off!
Tommy- No motive
Joe- No motive
Crystal- Motive- would want both children so no more child support!
Just my opinion Alex

I havn’t caught up on the lastes post. However,
if it proves that Misty was not involved with Haleigh she didn’t need to start selling drugs.
I think she would have kept on until she self destructed. Misty is severly environmental delayed. She is a victim of her raising. My parents were poor but they didn’t steal and do drugs. We aint beans and cornbread and prayed.
My dad got up everyday and went to work somewhere if he had to sell a load of firewood for us to eat. My mother had a six grade education and my father a ninth. He owned a sawmill did payroll and was successful. When that stopped he went to work in the coal mines.

I feel bad for the Croslins but they did bring some of this on themselves.

Thanks Vaq. Just wondered what the two entries for June 14th meant.

tm39 & Alex, Tommy/Joe could have had motive if they were sexually abusing HaLeigh or sold her for drug money. I used to think that latter, selling her for drug money, was absurd but now I think it is possible. Except that Tommy is saying that she was killed at home so that rules it out, anyhow. Still one or both of them could have abused her. Not saying there is any evidence, just laying out the possibilities of “they all have motive, means, and opportunity.”

What the Hay…..every time I read a different post another character that was interviewed in Haleigh’s disappearance has been arrested.

I have never been arrested but I would think that it would be devasting. These folks don’t blink an eye. Then they start looking for a way around the system. Even the sheriff’s son.
You wait until the FBI gets fed-up they will take Putnam county by a storm.

This case amazing me every time a new breath of air is breathed

Sorry CJ, I meant Cate- I’ve been out in the sun too long this morning!

I am really uncomfortable with LE paying Misty to get them drugs. One thing for a middle-man to take a few bucks by charging more for the drugs then they pay, or to get a few pills for the deal, but for LE to hand an indigent 18 year old $100.00 is a whole different ball game for me, and I don’t have a good feeling about it.

Clong said,
in June 14th, 2010 at 3:43 pm

Thanks Vaq. Just wondered what the two entries for June 14th meant.
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I don’t know. I don’t know why Crist’s website has not been updated since April or we could see what it was for, but I have a feeling that you are going to see his charges disappear. Meth and making meth is 1000 times worse than some pain pills and there was 2 YO involved too.

COOP Crystal’s own father went to jail in Putnam county for owing Crystal’s mother back child support for a child that turned out to even be his. So I am sure there was some worry about Crystal going to jail over not paying any child support for 4 years.

COOP the paying of the money to Misty by the UC is in the incident report on Misty and Donna.

CJ - I e-mailed your governor, I hope it’s still Charlie Crist, to find out why Executive Order 2010- 109 is not on the website. It stops at 2010-81 (4-5-2010).
Hopefully I didn’t do another pennyloafer thing!

I think Misty is just as capable as Ron to beat/harm/drug or all to Haleigh and not bat an eye. She has a violent streak in her also. The road rage incident shows that by far. Of course she lyed about that as well and said it never happened, just like she didn’t do anything to Haleigh. Wouldn’t surprise me one bit if she allowed tommy/Joe or anyone to abuse/drug or molest Haleigh and sat right there and watched the whole thing. I don’t care how much she said she loved that little girl, she didn’t care one squat over those kids. They were just the baggage that came along with Ron. She also was with Ron when he did some of the things he was doing right after HC went missing. She was with Ron when he put that headless rat in Tommy’s mailbox. When she called Tommy and her dad from Rons and caused that big fight and then stayed with Ron and told the police tommy and her dad started it all and when ron threatened to kill the guy she stayed with for awhile, she was with Ron. Funny when each of these incidents came up, where was Misty? right in the middle, just as she was with the drug dealing is with Haleigh’s disappearance.

COOP, I don’t think Crystal is involved in Haleigh going missing. I, however, would not put it past her mother OR her father. Remember her father lived in the area and even bragged on media, “everybody knows me”. The both hated Ron and hated the fact that he had custody of the children.

OJ, Oh my gosh, LOL. Boy would that cause an uproar in Florida.

Whylie, thanks for bringing me up to snuff of
Marty Sheffield. I don’t why I thought he lived in Baker County as well. I thought he was retired LE and had lived in Putnam at that time.

If governor Charlie Crist gives Hardy’s son an executive clemancy I’m moving.

New article…..

I was hopeing Huckaby would get the death penalty.I bet if we brought back public hanging these sickos would leave our babies alone.

I know i prob shouldn’t feel this way,but she doesn’t deserve to be protected and neither does anyone else that harms an innocent child.Poor Sandra and Haleigh didn’t have any mercy showed to them.

Ga.girl- So true!
jaba- I’m hoping a Misty trial will reveal alot hopefully not more lies!

WhyLie said,in June 14th, 2010 at 4:30 pm Misty was not driving in either road rage incident. If you listen to the 911 call on that road rage with Donna you will hear that it was the driver that was threatening and had a gun, not the passenger.

How the heck can a passenger have enough control over a car and driver to instigate road rage?

I see it all the time on highways and roads. I drive a long way to work everyday back and forth. A passenger hangs out the damn window and is yelling, cussing and calling another driver everything in the book, not to mention the facial expressions and the hand gestures! Yes, this instigates road rage and is even worse when the driver is doing it too plus driving. The lady said the passenger was yelling that she was gonna beat her A$$ and flipping her off repeatedly.

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