Keep up on the mob stuff, its a great show.

hey Cate…

is anyone here ?

It seems it will be a very long time before we find out anything about where Haleigh is and why she is gone!

If you keep looking in the same place for the same information from the same people and getting the same results, then time to look in a different place, for some different information from some different people and maybe you will get different results! Maybe then we can all find out what happened with Haleigh. Where is she?
Makes sense to me, but obviously not to LE!

==Off Topic== Van Der Sloot

Sounds like he confessed to the Latin authorities that he killed N. Holloway, but will only testify before Aruban authorities regarding her. I think that’s a ploy to get him back under the auspices of his late Dad’s connections. I.e., even though his dad is gone, maybe someone there will protect him?

In Orange County yesterday @ a Burlington Coat Factory Outlet, A 14 year old boy attempted to abduct a 3 year old little girl. Thank God he was caught in the process!! He is only 14.! OMG! what in the world are these young people thinking? He was interrogated and then charged with attempted kidnapping.
Praying for Haleigh!!

OFF TOPIC:

“LIMA, Peru – Dutch murder suspect Joran van der Sloot told police investigators that he knows the location of the body of missing U.S. teen Natalee Holloway, the chief of Peru’s criminal police said.

“He let slip that he knew the place where this person was buried,” Gen. Cesar Guardia told The Associated Press.”

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I wonder if Aruba will file any charges against him like the US did? What will it take to get Aruba to charge this creep?

Iketa, Cathy Jo, What link for Jeremiah Regan, et al. ? TIA.

JB! I agree with you 100%.

AMEN! Thanks JB.

Arf, arf (translates, “Good morning. I’m here.”)

Good Morning Cate! Arf Arf right back at cha!

*tossing Cate a milkbone dog biscuit* 😀

Some more headlines to make your head explode:

“Police: Mother flings baby to ground in meth-fueled rage
Updated: Thursday, 10 Jun 2010, 10:22 PM EDT
Published : Thursday, 10 Jun 2010, 5:25 PM EDT

By Andrew Bonner & Phil Sanchez
GREENWOOD, Ind. (WISH) – Police arrested a Greenwood mother last week for slamming her 10-month-old baby girl head-first onto the pavement in an apartment parking lot. Officers said the 23-year-old mother admitted to using meth prior to the incident.”

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“A Paulsboro High School science teacher was arrested at the school this week and charged with luring and enticing a 17-year-old girl, authorities said Thursday.

Michael Furey, 46, of West Deptford, created a MySpace profile page pretending to be a 16-year-old boy, the Gloucester County’s Prosecutor’s Office said. He arranged an encounter with the girl, who was one of his students, after talking to her online for six months in a conversation that grew increasingly sexual, the Prosecutor’s Office said.”

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“JERSEY CITY, New Jersey (WABC) — A warning for parents from police who say a creep is kissing little kids at a park in New Jersey.

He’s already done it several times, to both young boys and girls at Leonard Gordon Park in Jersey City.

Now, police are trying to find him.”

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What an ugly world we live in

lfj – yes, Joran sat and ate his sponge cake and drank his latte with the girls bloodied body laying at his feet. He was going to try and stuff her in a suitcase and toss her in the ocean but he was afraid the hotel would think he was leaving without paying by carrying luggage out. So he just tidied up the room a little and took her money, credit cards and keys and left.

Okie Dokie. He is an absolute psychopath!

JB, milkbone dog biscuit, yum yum, especially good with coffee. Thanks 🙂 . Almost as good as tummy pat.

TM39, Morning!

Anyone, how do I search for a complaint filed with PCSO? I am interested in the complaint filed by Lindsy Croslin (now Collins?) against Cobra.

TIA!

Cate – we need someone like Tobias to help you with that one! Maybe Tex or LFJ can help you!

I want to bring a post over this morning fom te last article. I am up for takeing a real close look at Ron today and put this paticular theory to the test (not bash). BRB

texasmommy39 said,in June 11th, 2010 at 8:35 am Good morning everyone,
I am still interested in focusing on this theory of Ron did it so we can see if it has stood the test of time (what we know now in comparison of what we knew then).
I personally would love to work through some of y’alls concerns in regards to Rons behavior.
I have mentioned in my late night post las night a few reason why I believe Ron’s guilt is questionable.
1. HaLeigh was seen by the A/C repair man after 5 pm and said repairman spoke to Ron on the phone (LE has phone records). LE has never disputed he was there or that he saw HaLeigh alive, well and playing.
2. Ron was at work until his shift ended.
3. The camera on HWY 17 only witnessed Ron on his way home after his shift ended.
I am open to any reason that should be taken into consideration that would clearly indicate Ron is guilty of harming his own child and then hidding her
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Let the friendly discussions begin.

I could probable stubble around and find it if I had a chance today… I am trying to get 2 bushels of peaches peeled pitted and canned before 6 pm. LOL

Defendant: CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES
Alias: No Alias Records

Date # Docket Description
08/06/2009 1 ARREST REPORT – PCSO D/S QUINTIER (ARREST 8/5/09)

08/06/2009 1 BOOKING NUMBER: 09-3225

08/06/2009 1 BURGLARY OF CONVEYANCE WITH BATTERY

08/06/2009 2 DEFENDANT PRESENT FOR FIRST APPEARANCE HRG 8/6/09

08/06/2009 2 ADJ INS P D APPOINTED FOR FIRST APPEARANCE ONLY

08/06/2009 2 SUFFICIENT PROBABLE CAUSE FOUND

08/06/2009 2 $12,5004.00 SECURED BOND SET

08/06/2009 3 AFFIDAVIT OF INSOLVENCY

08/06/2009 4 ORDER APPOINTING PUBLIC DEFENDER FOR 1ST APP HEARING

08/07/2009 5 $12504.00 A-1-24 HOUR CITY BEST BAIL BONDS #2148146

08/07/2009 5 AMERICAN BANKERS INSURANCE CO

08/19/2009 6 NOTICE OF APPEARANCE BY: TERRY J SHOEMAKER

08/19/2009 7 NOTICE OF DISCOVERY

iT IS STILL AN OPEN CASE, NOTHING HAS HAPPENED TO IT SINCE 8/19/10.

Taking the “Ron is Guilty” Challenge…

1. “HaLeigh was seen by the A/C repair man after 5 pm…” No contest. (Yikes, 15 years?!)

2. “was at work until his shift ended”… A few things could be going on here. a) I have read that there is an interview with Nancy Grace in which Shoemaker indicates that there may be a (short?) period of time for which nobody can account for Ron’s presence at work. (This elicited a raised eyebrow from Nancy…) b) Pat Brown, on one of Levi Page’s shows, tossed out the idea that TN “covered” for Ron at work and “created” the cell phone pings. c) Another PDM Bridge employee divulged that employees/guards would cover for one another and sign in/out, say people were around when they weren’t, etc. Don’t recall where I read that, though. d) An overdose of many types of drugs, including oxy, could have a slow onset. HaLeigh could have been fine a couple of hours after Ronald left for work but didn’t become ill/die until blood levels reached max; or Ronald could have given HaLeigh some before he went to work, not told Misty, told her to give her some as well, lots of variations on this idea possible. e) Internal injuries/brain injuries caused by Ron (intentionally or accidentally) with similar time course to drugs as outlined in d.

3. “The camera on HWY 17 only witnessed Ron on his way home after his shift ended.” No comment, no contest, doesn’t matter, I’ve already been sentenced to fifteen years.

Hey tobias, morning! Did you see my question above, about wanting to pull up the docket for Lindsy’s complaint against Cobra? How about it?

Good Morning all! Last night OJ said “oy, vey” to me and it sent me back in my dreams to happy days in NYC! Thank you OJ, I actually had a good night’s sleep!
On the baby hostage front in Sacramento, there has been shooting several times this morning!
Lastly after 7am PT when they sent a robot in. The robot was able to see that he was still holding a gun but was also feeding the baby!

Alex, Sure would like to see the picture of the man holding the gun while feeding the baby. Defines “ironic” and/or “juxtaposition.” English teachers need copies.

Alex, Who is Joshua Imm? TY.

Was Ronald’s worksite PDM Bridge, 222 Comfort Road, Palatka, FL, 32177?

And where is the camera on Hwy 17?

Cate (aka Kate) said,in June 11th, 2010 at 10:54 am Taking the “Ron is Guilty” Challenge…

1. “HaLeigh was seen by the A/C repair man after 5 pm…” No contest. (Yikes, 15 years?!)

2. “was at work until his shift ended”… A few things could be going on here. a) I have read that there is an interview with Nancy Grace in which Shoemaker indicates that there may be a (short?) period of time for which nobody can account for Ron’s presence at work. (This elicited a raised eyebrow from Nancy…) b) Pat Brown, on one of Levi Page’s shows, tossed out the idea that TN “covered” for Ron at work and “created” the cell phone pings. c) Another PDM Bridge employee divulged that employees/guards would cover for one another and sign in/out, say people were around when they weren’t, etc. Don’t recall where I read that, though. d) An overdose of many types of drugs, including oxy, could have a slow onset. HaLeigh could have been fine a couple of hours after Ronald left for work but didn’t become ill/die until blood levels reached max; or Ronald could have given HaLeigh some before he went to work, not told Misty, told her to give her some as well, lots of variations on this idea possible. e) Internal injuries/brain injuries caused by Ron (intentionally or accidentally) with similar time course to drugs as outlined in d.

3. “The camera on HWY 17 only witnessed Ron on his way home after his shift ended.” No comment, no contest, doesn’t matter, I’ve already been sentenced to fifteen years.
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LOL ok here I go…..
a) b) and c)I am not going to excuse this nor ignore it, but, have to ask if we consider Rons drive time back and forth and then involvement and disposal it would have to account for a lot of time Ron was not accounted for.
I have a hard time believing someone would willing continue to cover for Ron if that is indeed what happened to allow Ron the oppertunity. I am sure that it would cost them their job, but, have a hard time honestly believing that someone involved in that context would not of told the truth and claimed the reward and looked for another job.
d) An overdose of many types of drugs, including oxy, could have a slow onset. HaLeigh could have been fine a couple of hours after Ronald left for work but didn’t become ill/die until blood levels reached max; or Ronald could have given HaLeigh some before he went to work, not told Misty, told her to give her some as well, lots of variations on this idea possible.
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Haleigh was dropped of and kissed good by and Ron left for work. I am conerned that it could very well have been an accidental overdose, but, I have to consider the fact that LE has not revealed to the public they found drugs in the home, but we all heard about what was found on the Griffis property. See what I mean. I am sure we would of had a leak to convict.
e) I revert back to my response of timeing of HaLeighs arrival at home and Rons immediate departure, leaves me second guessing this assmption.

“The camera on HWY 17 only witnessed Ron on his way home after his shift ended.” No comment, no contest, doesn’t matter, I’ve already been sentenced to fifteen years.
If soeone can find a alternate route we could consider might be helpfull in giving this thought some merit. My opinion is the camera and the timeline have given LE enough to determine the fact that Ron was at work.

Joshua Imm is Sheriff Hardy’s son. OJ told me last night that he got a lighter bail then Misty or Ron. I was just wondering why & it seems like the amounts are related to the degrees of the felonies!

Thank you Jaba! That makes sense now, but I would think that Joshua’s should have been 1st degree charges as well!

I think bond is also deteremined by risk of flight.

Then add it 8 felonies and that money gets up there.

For some reason fields didn’t want misty bailed out by padilla. Padilla had conditions that she provide proof of Haleigh and if she had, it may have gotten her charged in the disappearnce which she hasn’t been to date.

Josh Imms is still an inmate at Putnam he has not been bailed out. Just shows no one cares if he sits there until trial. jmo

TM39, I agree with you. I was laying out all of the options that I’ve heard of but I don’t see TN pinging from PDM Bridge or Ron sneaking out of work to murder his daughter or beat her and accidently deliver a fatal blow. No particular reasons that I can articulate but they just don’t fit the big picture well. The drug theory is the only one that makes sense to me, and it does make a lot of sense. The only reason I have to rule it out is why protect Misty? If he is clever enough to pull it off and dispose of the body without detection, why not just sell Misty downriver, too? Why protect her because she knows too much?

Agreed, tobias. Imms may be the son, but he’s not close to them it doesn’t appear.

Imms is just another dealer caught.

Nothing about him will affect rons or mistys trials, imo.

Just dropped in for a break from yard work.
I was hoping that since it was Friday they may announce more tapes or something.

Good morning/early afternoon everyone.

I was thinking about the following after reading TM39’s post.

I have not seen much of any information regarding the AC guy’s statements. I have searched for any articles that stated that he had actually seen Haleigh that day. If anyone could direct me to anything to do with this man’s statements or information that was given by LE pertaining to what the AC guy may have witnessed it would be greatly appreciated.
tia

Interesting…

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/florida/news-article.aspx?storyid=131126&catid=4

” family member of Ronald Cummings, Haleigh’s dad, has printed up flyers on her home computer. Elesha Izor, has walked street to street distributing the flyers and taping them to windshields.

“We are doing as much as we can. As soon as they let us, we are going to search. We’re not going to stop until we find her. I promise you that,” Izor said.”

So there were other family members in the area who were also possibly searching?

I wonder how many family members there are that we are not aware of?

I think they were letting misty help them snare as many as she could, and it looks like it worked.

If you google PDM Bridge and look under emplyment, there are now job openings for Palaka. Seems some have lost their jobs recently. jmo

Some experts think an accident happened before Ron went to work. I agree with the drug theory, it seems to make alot of sense. They are all covering for one another. In the last press conference it speaks of someone Misty knows or Ron knows perhaps they both know the person.
Levi page reported on JVM that Misty told Charles Jones jr. the drug people took Haleigh.Charles Jones was also on the Levi show and said he thinks the road rage happened by Ron is because he thought Misty had told him something and was trying to kill him. Charles Jones also admits to speaking with LE on numerous occasions. We now hear Misty saying about the black man that told Ron that he knew where Haleigh was., but if he told he would come back and kill Ron. Whether there is any truth to what has been stated it definitely has to be considered.

Jaba, But would they have let Misty snare as many as she could if HaLeigh had never gone missing? I think not.

Tobias, some have lost their jobs recently! Makes you go hmmmmmm. Remember the 1/07/2010 blog talk show about the time clocks being switched out at the time and perhaps a witness may have come forward on Ron.HMMMMM.

I’ve also been trying to follow the case of the litte boy named Kyron Horman who is reported missing out of Portland, Oregon.
I wonder if someone might have followed the step Mother to the school that day or? I wonder if LE is looking into the possibility that there might have been some type of previous altercation of some sort that led up to Kyron’s disappearance?

lfJ, But what would the drug dealers do with Haleigh? She’s dead now, then, right?

Jaba- Oj is appealing his conviction! Maybe he just wanted to go on a field trip to the courthouse to get a change of scenery!

Am I looking in the wrong place? I only see positions for a QCI, a Shop Supervisor, and a welder, at the Palatka plant. Those are the only 3 positions I see.

It could have been anything from the step Mother cutting someone off in traffic. I am thinking it is someone local to that area. I do not believe that this little boy would run off from the school when he was so proud of his science project. The picture of Kyron shows him absolutely beaming.

I don’t think Ron himself disposed of Haleigh.
I think Ron summoned his Mom. You know good and well he expected Misty to anwser that phone. Ron went home to take care of the issue
temper got out of control or something. There
was an accident. They panic and he returns to work. Misty takes care of the disposal of the body.

I have seen Misty cry on jailhouse tapes. Those
tears are a lot different than the alligator
tears she cries for Haleigh.

I worked in a secure environment most of my career. Ron knew his way around security there
you can bet your lifesaver on that.

I don’t think anything was a brutal murder it
was an accident that would have been difficult to explain

Lmao, simpson is something else. He can never admit what he is. Oh well, let’s see if Nevada can waste some money on his appeal. Like they need more wasted money flying out of the coughers.
It is the system though and he should get his day.

Regarding Kyron Horman’s case, I’m not sure where I read it but for some reason I thought I saw something about White road but I looked it up and there is only a Green road nearby. Maybe there is a person named White living on green road? I dunno. Confusing.

I also wonder if Misty and Ron fought before he went to work because Misty did not want to baby sit and that is when something happened to Haleigh and she later died from an injury she sustained during the altercation and that is what the 8:30 call was all about and then Mistys phone was turned off. Ron would not have to leave work at all. He got someone else to help dispose and someone to help Misty stage the mh. All by telephone. An alternate theory to the drug theory. Misty would be an accomplis and they needed to keep Misty calm so she did not tell all at first. Now she is just tryingto protect herself from being involved in the cover- up. I am sure she has been told she will go down with them.

JMO to my above post.

COOP, So you are saying that the PDM openings are simply due to a project expansion/a new project? That would make sense.

agree! Jaba

If Haleigh took drugs she would probably have chewed. There then goes the time release and
instant overdose.

Ron hurt her while he was angry with Misty
internal injury. Due to accidental trauma.

lfJ, Yes, I think that is a distinct possibility, HaLeigh’s death was an accident of any sort, really. Even if it was legitimate, they had a lot to protect and motivation to avoid an investigation— drugs to be found and custody of Jr. And right, he doesn’t need to leave work at all, especially if Tommy and even Timmy were summoned to help dispose of HaLiegh’s body.

COOP, If the ingestion of the drugs was accidental, she probably would have chewed. But maybe Ron intentionally overdosed her.

Or Misty put it in the food, by AS timeline she was there at 7;30 and the kids were eating, so in between 7;30 and 8;30 (last time Ron talked with Misty) Haleigh could have died.
Misty does say from then on she was cleaning and went to bed at 10. I still think Junior was also drugged because even on the enhanced 911 you dont hear him at all. jmo

Alex,
Thanks, the fact they stole the kids from
each other was probably what Ron thought
at first, even tho he had legal custody. I
think Ron and JS had a big ego thing going
on. So when Ron got legal custody it really
irked JS.

Someone said earlier here that Ron could have
hid Haleigh because he new the Drug guys
were gonna get back at Him for ripping them
off. That’s only thing I have read that makes
since to me, about how Ron was involved.

I seriously want for life sentences or worse for those who would harm, kidnap, rape or murder a Child. I understand that in certain situations plea bargaining might have to take place, such as the case in Southern California recently, but other than that NO DEAL!
jmvho

Did anyone know that Jessica Lundsford’s Father had also gone to Satsuma to try to help?
I just read that in an article and just about bust out in tears.
Very sad.

Then why would Ron be so crazy if his first thoughts would have been Crystals side of the family stealing her? He knew some how it was someone else. jmo

tobias you could be right. If Misty sprinkled oxy on that baby’s food so she could go out
she would have been dead when she got home.
Misty had lived in that trailer park awhile
before she moved in with Ron she knows her way around. I think Misty and Ron know. Not for sure who done the dirty work yet…. those two
are right up to their eyeballs in this.

Where are ya’ll getting “Aunt Lisa” was a nurse?

If ron left work in a “plan” to do something without mistys knowledge or with it, he is taking the chance of a lifetime that someone would not notice he was gone.

If he did, and someone noticed it, LE would be all over him like bbq sauce on ribs, covered!!!

To be not accounted for and have that noticed would be a huge gamble, imo.

Him eating at the cafeteria when he normally doesn’t, on the night in question, would lead me to belive more that he knew something was going on at the mh and he was establishing an alibi.

But, when I think of anyone knowing something happened to her before he went to work, she dies, he gets a call about it, and feels the shock of a childs death and can make it another 5 hours without signs of it, and gets beer and cigs on the way home, is one hell of an actor. I don’t think ron knew of it until he got home.

I think ron had been there 3 months so people knew him and his rep, hence, pdm doesn’t want folks to know they hired such a criminal so they are staying out of the picture. Imo

LFJ, Got it, I also heard this early on thats why I brought it up. TY jmo

I would want to know also if there were any persons who lived nearby that school who had issue with the school, school bus traffic etc…
Whomever had taken Kyron had contempt for this school also to so brazenly go on to the property with intent to steal a Child imvho.

Me Too Tuff. I hope to God they find that little boy!!

Alex
I thought the same thing with my boys.
after I was divorced I got somewhat leanet
with them, because of guilt I felt because
thier Dad was gone. My oldest son always went
to the pier to go fishing on his own, he
would stay all day sometimes. It bothered
me but he loved to fish. One day he came
home and had a couple guys followed him
home so they ask for my permission to take
him to anther beach close by, It was in
the 70’s . I gave them permission. they hadn’t
been gone an hour and I started to pace the floor’s thay were suposed to back by midnite.
they weren’t my god I thought I was gonna jump
out my skin. When they did get back they came
to the door and aplogized for being late.
I was so thankful to see him. When I closed the door I screamed ay my son don’t you ever come to me again and ask to go with anyone.
he looked at me like I was crazy. He said good
Lord mom we weren’t that late, I said I’ve been like this since I gave you permission.
He didn’t understand this at all, any way he had great nite caught alot of big fish. but never went anywhere else but there pier that was close to the house.
Scared the Sheet out of me. no cell phones back then.

Lfj,

How cold do you have to be to know that and continue to work for 5 hours without at least throwing up. Can you imagine your nerves?

Vaquera,
Do you know how Eilesha Izor is related to Ron?

It was said that crystal didn’t get to the scene for 8 hours.

Did Le go over there to see if she had been taken by them?

If ron thought that he would have told police to go check there at least, imo.

Alex
you would think that , thats the only thing that doesn’t fit .And it’s big thing that doesn’t fit.

Ron’s Aunt Elisa is not a nurse. There is another Elisa Squires that is 40, Ron’s aunt is 50 that is a nurse in another town..

ELISAMSQUIRES
LICENSE NUMBER: RN2958082 Printer Friendly Version

Profession
REGISTERED NURSE
License/Activity Status
CLEAR/ACTIVEClick here for more information
License Expiration Date License Original Issue Date
7/31/2012 07/13/1995
Discipline on File Public ComplaintClick here for more information
NO NO
Address of Record
10367 NW 42 DRIVE
CORAL SPRINGS,FL33065
UNITED STATES

Tuff Stuff said,
in June 11th, 2010 at 1:01 pm

Vaquera,
Do you know how Eilesha Izor is related to Ron?
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Never heard of the name, but I will look around.

Cricket- You just never know! What scares me now is that there are so many areas where cell phones don’t work. Here in Sacramento County it’s hard if not impossible to find a pay phone anymore. They use to have them outside stores or gas stations, but not anymore. The ones here in Galt were used alot by drug dealers. I think it was a disservice to take them out because at least LE knew where they were. Now if the stores are closed and your cell doesn’t work, you’re stuck!

I’m still in the process of moving, so I’ve been using my sons laptop to stay tuned into haleigh and you all, always read, but can’t always post…I sooo need to hear that pesky tommy tape, someone please help! I’m going absolutely nuts!!!!

Did you go to Sky news to listen? TJ has the tapes also.

Methinks I was wondering what may have happened to you. I asked about m2c, and other posters said she was fine, but We had not heard from you. Glad to know all is well.

Lfj, how do I find them when I get to sky news? can you link me?

http://www.theskynews973.com

methinks said,
in June 11th, 2010 at 1:12 pm

I miss you guys! all of you! I can’t wait to get settled so I can chat more often. I’m at the library in hopes of finding a way to listen to that tape…..
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*waves* sure have miss ya 🙂

looking for Justice said,
in June 11th, 2010 at 1:25 pm

I don’t have the article number; just the link. Sorry.
I have errands to do, will check back later.
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I can’t find a Elesha Izor anywhere in the US using veroni and pipl..weird

If you look in the civil dockets Nay Nay has been sued for child support and for auto neg. but hasnt been found since 3-30 to be served. Wonder where NayNay has gone? hmmmm. jmo

she was around the Croslins when that fight broke between jr/sr.I had heard she was living there.

She owes 2812.00 to an insurance co. probably for an auto accident, it was filed on June 7 2010.
Just checking dockets to see if any new stuff is happeneing. Seem Donnie Spells is after her for Child support and the insurance company too. jmo

I wonder if that is the wreck she got in the end of Jan. when she had Misty in the car with her. Think it was 1.27.09

I wondered where yall were,hiding eh?

nay nay ain’t too shabby..
jus sayin

OJ is really Adam Sandler? If you think Nay Nay is hot I’ve got a tree in the yard that is kinda shapely. LOL 🙂

Nay Nay’s Letter to Joe “Psycho”
http://imgsrv.thesky973.com/image/wsky/UserFiles/File/Picture%20letter.jpg

The man whose name was difficult to read in the letter Kristina Rene “Nay Nay” Prevatt sent to her boyfriend from jail regarding questioning she received a few days ago about the disappearance of missing 6-year-old Haleigh Cumming of Satsuma, FL., has been identified as Joseph Franklin Pytko.

An earlier attempt to decipher his name had it as a street name “Joe Psycho.”

It has been confirmed by sources close to the investigation that Pytko is the man who signed a sworn affidavit stating that Prevatt, a party gal pal of the missing child’s stepmom Misty Croslin-Cummings, was at a party with Misty, Greg Page (a man that Misty just had a weekend of sex and drugs with before the child vanished) and the children Haleigh and Junior the night Haleigh disappeared.

In his sworn statement–according to Prevatt’s jail letter, Pytko said:

“Haleigh ingested oxycontin pills and died. Everybody freaked out and White Boy Greg (Greg Page) put Haleigh in a black bag and dumped her in a pond at the Mondex.”

Last weekend, the L pond at Mondex was drained with no trace of Haleigh.

Pytko has a bit of a past with police and reportedly has had some issues:

“Police were caught in a two-hour standoff with a man threatening suicide early in the morning of June 24, 2008, forcing the closing of St. Johns Avenue until officers forcibly brought the man out.

According to reports from the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office, dispatch received a call from a concerned neighbor stating that Joseph Franklin Pytko, 32, was threatening to commit suicide by shooting himself.

Deputies arrived to the 3300 block of St. Johns Avenue and set up a perimeter around the man’s home.”

JOSEPH FRANKLIN PYTKO
Palatka , FL
Booking Date & Time: 6/18/2009 7:35:22 PM – Booking#: 09-02513
Release Date & Time: 7/30/2009 1:05:00 PM
DOB: 2/14/1976 – RACE: W – SEX: M

FRAUD-SWINDLE OBTAIN PROPERTY UNDER 20K DOLS
COCAINE-POSSESS POSSESS COCAINE
NARCOTIC EQUIP-POSSESS AND OR USE

The two most recent booking on Joseph Franklin Pytko:

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=754760&IMG=44656

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=750980&IMG=4465

OJ,How much do you drink per day?? 4 maybe 5 cases??

Iketa,from the Goodwill Emporium right?

VAQuera,I looked all i have seen so far is this,don’t know if it helps though!
CUMMINGS

I am looking for information on the CUMMINGS family of middle Tennessee. Specifically, I am looking to communicate with anyone researching the descendents of William CUMMINGS (b.1819-1828 in NC) and Lena Anderson (b. 1841-1845 in TN). William and Lena had the following children: Mary (b. 1858), Carroll (b. 1862), Martha (b. 1864), Rachel (b. 1866), Ulysses (b. 1867 in Dekalb County), Alex (b. 1871 in Buffalo Valley, TN), Fuston (b. 1872), Henry C. (b. 1875), Francis (b. 1879), John, Clabe, and Catherine.
Simone Cummings — 116B Purefoy Road, Chapel Hill, NC 27514
cummings@med.unc.edu
Submitted on Mon Oct 12 14:04:01 EDT 1998

Johnny Sheffield (Crystal’s Dad)
Crystal’s Dad Johnny Sheffield
UCN: 542004CF001425XXAXMX
File Date: 2004-08-03 Judge: EDWARD E HEDSTROM
Defense Atty: STEPHENSON, JOHN W
Defendant
SHEFFIELD, JOHNNY MARCUS
Alias
Date # Docket Description
2004-08-03 1 COMPLAINT FILED: PCSO

2004-08-03 1 KNOWINGLY OWN, MANAGE OPERATE FACILITY TO FIGHT ANIMALS

2004-08-03 1 CRUELTY TO ANIMALS

2004-08-03 1 ATTENDING THE FIGHTING OR BATING OF ANIMALS

2004-08-03 1 ATTENDING THE FIGHTING OR BATING OF ANIMALS

2004-08-31 2 INFORMATION (CT 1-ANIMAL FIGHTING)

2004-09-14 3 CAPIAS ISSUED – BOND SET AT $1004.00

2004-10-14 4 ARREST REPORT – CT 1-ANIMAL FIGHTING –

2004-10-14 4 BOND SET AT $1004.00

2004-10-14 5 $1004.00 A-1 BAIL BONDS II – #2004-AA-77111

2004-10-14 6 DEFENDANT’S NOTIFICATION OF BOND CONDITIONS

2004-10-14 7 NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (11-10-2004)

2004-10-18 8 CAPIAS RETURNED EXECUTED

2004-11-10 9 ARR MIN: DEFT PRES, ADJ INS P D APPT (BILL BOOKHAMMER)

2004-11-10 9 ARR ENT PLEA OF NOT GUILTY – PRE TRIAL SET 12/14/2004

2004-11-10 10 AFFIDAVIT OF INDIGENT STATUS

2004-11-10 11 ORDER APPOINTING PUBLIC DEFENDER

2004-11-10 12 ORDER FOR PRE TRIAL CONFERENCE

2004-11-16 13 NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (12-14-2004)

2004-12-14 14 PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY JOHN STEPHENSON

2004-12-14 14 ON MOTION OF DEFENSE COUNSEL, COURT ORDERED CASE

2004-12-14 14 CONTINUED TO 01/18/2005 AT 1:30 PM

2004-12-17 15 NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (01-18-2005)

2005-01-18 16 PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY JOHN STEPHENSON

2005-01-18 16 ON MOTION OF DEFENSE COUNSEL, COURT ORDERED CASE

2005-01-18 16 SET FOR PLEA DAY 01/20/2005

2005-01-20 17 PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY JOHN STEPHENSON

2005-01-20 17 W/D FORMER PLEA, PLEAD NOLO TO THE LESSER CRUELTY TO

2005-01-20 17 ANIMALS

2005-01-20 17 ADVISED OF MAX PENALTY 1 YR PCJ &/OR $1000 FINE

2005-01-20 17 PLEA ACCEPTED, PSI WAIVED, SENTENCING – DEFENDANT

2005-01-20 17 ADJUDGED GUILTY, ORDERED TO PAY $241.50 COURT COST, $250

2005-01-20 17 COST OF PROSECUTION AND $40 PUBLIC DEFENDER APP FEE,

2005-01-20 17 COSTS ENTERED AS A CIVIL LIEN, SENTENCED TO 1 DAY PCJ

2005-01-20 17 WITH 1 DAY CREDIT

2005-02-03 18 JUDGMENT AND SENTENCE – ENT MIN CIR CT BK PG

2005-02-04 19 CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE AS TO JUDGMENT AND SENTENCE

2005-02-22 20 CHARGES, COSTS, AND FEES ASSOCIATED WITH SENTENCE

2005-02-22 20 RECORDED OR BK 1017 PG 753

2005-09-23 21 NOTICE OF HEARING RETURNED UNEXECUTED

2005-09-23 21 DEFT NOT IN JAIL

2005-09-23 22 DEFENSE WITNESS SUBPOENA ISSUED:

2005-09-23 22 EVIDENCE CUSTODIAN

2005-09-26 23 DEFENSE WITNESS SUBPOENA RETURNED SERVED:

2005-09-26 23 EVIDENCE CUSTODIAN

2005-09-29 24 MOTION FOR RETURN OF PROPERTY

2005-09-30 25 MOTION HEARING MINUTES: DEFT PRES – COURT HEARD

2005-09-30 25 DEFENSE MOTION FOR RETURN OF PROPERTY – GRANTED –

2005-09-30 25 SONY CAMCORDER SERIAL #1528521 RET’D TO DEFT

UCN: 542005MM002130XXAXMX
File Date: 2005-05-09 Judge: PETER T MILLER
Defense Atty:
Defendant
SHEFFIELD, JOHNNY MARCUS
Alias
Date # Docket Description
2005-05-09 1 COMPLAINT SOPC DWAINE ELSON WEIKER 5/04/2005

2005-05-09 1 BATTERY

2005-05-09 1 ASSAULT

2006-03-08 2 ANNOUNCEMENT OF NO INFORMATION
UCN: 542005MM002130XXAXMX
File Date: 2005-05-09 Judge: PETER T MILLER
Defense Atty:
Defendant
SHEFFIELD, JOHNNY MARCUS
Alias
Date # Docket Description
2005-05-09 1 COMPLAINT SOPC DWAINE ELSON WEIKER 5/04/2005

2005-05-09 1 BATTERY

2005-05-09 1 ASSAULT

2006-03-08 2 ANNOUNCEMENT OF NO INFORMATION

UCN: 542006CO000024XXAXCX
File Date: 2006-02-14 Judge: ELIZABETH A MORRIS
Defense Atty:
Defendant
SHEFFIELD, JOHNNY MARCUS
Alias
Date # Docket Description
2006-02-14 1 LOCAL ORDIN CITA #06-395 1/6/06 PCSO/TIMPS

2006-02-14 1 PUBL NUISANCE ANIMAL/STRAY

2006-02-14 1 $57.00 FINE DUE 2/6/06

2006-02-15 2 WRITTEN PLEA OF NOT GUILTY TO LOCAL ORDINANCE

2006-02-15 2 HEARING SET 04/11/06 11:15AM 400 EAM

2006-03-08 3 NOTICE OF ORDINANCE HEARING ISSUED TO:

2006-03-08 3 DEF JOHNNY SHEFFIELD,COMP MARJORIE DUSO,D/S JON TIMPS

2006-04-11 4 COMP. DECEASED PER OFFICER – DISMISSED EAM

UCN: 542006CF001187XXAXMX
File Date: 2006-06-05 Judge: TERRY J LARUE
Defense Atty:
Defendant
SHEFFIELD, JOHNNY MARCUS
Alias
Date # Docket Description
2006-06-05 1 COMPLAINT – PCSO D/S K TRABER (5/22/06)

2006-06-05 1 AGGRAVATED BATTERY RENE RAMSEY

2006-07-03 2 ANNOUNCEMENT OF NO INFORMATION

UCN: 541994MM000149XXAXMX
File Date: 1994-01-12 Judge: PETER T MILLER
Defense Atty: LUKASHOW, TOM
Defendant
SHEFFIELD, JOHNNY MARCUS
Alias
Date # Docket Description
1994-01-12 1 CITATION NO: 22942 ROBERT RAULERSON

1994-01-12 1 ATTEMPTING TO TAKE DEER AT NIGHT

1994-01-12 1 CASE SET 2-8-94

1994-02-08 2 ARR MINUTES: DEFT PRES IN COURT, ADJ INS P D APPT

1994-02-08 2 ARR ENT PLEA OF NOT GUILTY

1994-02-08 2 PRE-TRIAL SET 3-2-94

1994-02-08 3 APPLICATION AND ORDER FOR APPOINTMENT OF PUBLIC DEFENDER

1994-02-08 4 PRE-TRIAL ORDER 3-2-94

1994-02-08 5 NOTICE OF INTENT TO PARTICIPATE IN DISCOVERY

1994-02-21 6 LETTER FROM FDLE CONCERNING DISPOSITION

1994-03-02 7 CASE SET FOR JURY TRIAL (03/21/94)

1994-03-02 8 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (3-21-94)

1994-03-11 9 ANSWER TO NOTICE OF DISCOVERY

1994-03-11 9 DEMAND FOR NOTICE OF INTENTION TO CLAIM ALIBI

1994-03-11 9 WITNESS LIST

1994-03-21 10 CONTINUED TO NEXT TRIAL DATE 4-18-94

1994-03-21 11 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (4-18-94)

1994-03-28 12 LETTER FROM FDLE CONCERNING STATUS OF CASE

1994-04-05 13 SUBPOENA ISSUED TO: OFF R W RAULERSON; LT ROBERT LEE

1994-04-18 14 CONTINUED TO NEXT TRIAL DATE 5/16/94

1994-04-18 14 CASE TO BE TRIED ON TUESDAY OF TRIAL WEEK

1994-04-18 15 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (5/16/94)

1994-04-18 16 SUBPOENA RETURNED SERVED – OFF R W RAULERSON; LT BOB LEE

1994-04-20 17 LETTER FROM FDLE CONCERNING STATUS OF CASE

1994-05-03 18 DEMAND FOR SPEEDY TRIAL

1994-05-05 19 SUBPOENA ISSUED TO: OFF R W RAULERSON; OFF LT ROBERT LEE

1994-05-11 20 MOTION TO SUPPRESS

1994-05-16 21 DEFT PRES IN COURT ATT BY TOM LUKASHOW, ASST P D FOR JURY

1994-05-16 21 TRIAL – CASE CONSOLIDATED WITH 94-0145MM06 FOR TRIAL

1994-05-16 21 JURY SELECTED AND EXCUSED UNTIL 5-18-94 AT 9 AM

1994-05-16 22 JURY SEATING CHART

1994-05-18 23 JURY TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES ATT BY TOM LUKASHOW, ASST P D

1994-05-18 23 JURY SWORN – WITNESSES SWORN AND TESTIFIED

1994-05-18 23 DEFT FOUND NOT GUILTY BY JURY – CASE DISMISSED

1994-05-18 24 VERDICT OF NOT GUILTY OF THE OFFENSE OF ATTEMPTING TO TAKE

1994-05-18 24 DEER AT NIGHT

1994-05-18 25 EVIDENCE – GUN AND LIGHT

1994-06-17 26 PETITION FOR CONFISCATION

1994-06-17 27 ORDER FORFEITING AND DISPOSING OF SEIZED GAME

1994-06-17 28 RECEIPT FROM ROBERT RAULERSON FOR:

1994-06-17 28 ONE (1) 12 VOLT SPOTLIGHT (BLACK)

1994-06-17 28 ONE (1) MODEL 783 MARLIN 22 MAGNUM, WITH SCOPE, SN #19778857

1994-06-17 28 ONE (1) 22 MAGNUM RFM SHELL

UCN: 541995CF001500XXAXMX
File Date: 1995-08-23 Judge: TERRY J LARUE
Defense Atty:
Defendant
SHEFFIELD, JOHNNY MARCUS
Alias
Date # Docket Description
1995-08-23 1 COMPLAINT – AGGRAVATED ASSAULT W/DEADLY WEAPON

1995-08-23 1 MICHAEL N PLACONA

UCN: 541995CF001501XXAXMX
File Date: 1995-08-23 Judge: WILLIAM A PARSONS
Defense Atty:
Defendant
SHEFFIELD, JOHNNY MARCUS
Alias
Date # Docket Description
1995-08-23 1 COMPLAINT – AGGRAVATED ASSAULT WITH DEADLY WEAPON

1995-08-23 1 BY DAVID BOUDREAN

1996-03-04 2 ANNOUNCEMENT OF NO INFORMATION

UCN: 541997MM000607XXAXMX
File Date: 1997-02-09 Judge: PETER T MILLER
Defense Atty: PEARL, HOWARD B
Defendant
SHEFFIELD, JOHNNY MARCUS
Alias
Date # Docket Description
1997-02-09 1 CITATION NO: 186324-S 4 JOHN MERCHANT

1997-02-09 1 D L SUSPENDED

1997-02-09 1 CASE SET 3/04/97

1997-03-04 2 ARRAIGNMENT MINUTES:

1997-03-04 2 DEFT PRES IN COURT, ADJ INS P D APPT HOWARD PEARL ASST P D

1997-03-04 2 ARR ENT PLEA OF NOT GUILTY – PRE-TRIAL SET 4-2-97

1997-03-04 2 P D APPLICATION FEE WAIVED BY COURT

1997-03-04 3 AFFIDAVIT

1997-03-04 3 ORDER OF INDIGENCY AND ORDER AS TO THE PUBLIC DEFENDER

1997-03-04 3 $40.00 APPLICAITON FEE WAVIED BY COURT

1997-03-04 4 PRE-TRIAL ORDER (4-2-97) ADA

1997-03-04 5 NOTICE OF INTENT TO PARTICIPATE IN DISCOVERY

1997-04-02 6 PRE-TRIAL MINUTES: ON MOTION OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA, THE

1997-04-02 6 CASE WAS ORDERED NOLLE PROSEQUI IN OPEN COURT

UCN: 541997MM000608XXAXMX
File Date: 1997-02-09 Judge: PETER T MILLER
Defense Atty: PEARL, HOWARD B
Defendant
SHEFFIELD, JOHNNY MARCUS
Alias
Date # Docket Description
1997-02-09 1 CITATION NO: 186323-S 1 JOHN MERCHANT

1997-02-09 1 ATTACH TAG NOT ASSIGNED

1997-02-09 1 CASE SET 3/04/97

1997-02-18 2 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (3/04/97) ADA

1997-02-24 3 NOTICE RETURNED UNEXECUTED – ATTEMPTED NOT KNOWN

1997-03-04 4 ARRAIGNMENT MINUTES:

1997-03-04 4 DEFT PRES IN COURT, ADJ INS P D APPT HOWARD PEARL ASST P D

Iketa,exactly right,I take everbodys words into account,its not like we can believe the ones responsiblle,whoever it may be!

Cathy dont forget AS had alot of restraining orders and domestic violence on her from Katrina and others. Mean old woman. Also look in the civil records, AS and Kirby were sueing Walmart.jmo

Tobias,Right and even custodial interference????? AS?

imvooo Tobias,AS is a snake in the grass,remember the clip of her in front of the tent,You’d think she’d be nice to the ones putting Haleighs face out there,I don’t trust her or TN as far as I could slinge,’ mo tho

While searching through a search registry for Izor’s all I found were Izor’s who were possibly relation to some Hardy’s.

I agree Vaquera. Weird.

tobias said,
in June 11th, 2010 at 2:48 pm

Cathy dont forget AS had alot of restraining orders and domestic violence on her from Katrina and others. Mean old woman. Also look in the civil records, AS and Kirby were sueing Walmart.jmo
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That’s not true. she has one for harassing phone calls and one for interference with child custody which were both dropped. As far as suing walmart, do you know what happened?

541993MM003980XXAXMX 11/30/1993
Defendant: SYKES, DIANE WOOD
Alias: No Alias Records

542001MM003569XXAXMX 09/21/2001
Defendant: SYKES, DOROTHY ANNETTE
Alias: No Alias Records

542008CF000845XXAXMX 04/09/2008
Defendant: SYKES, DOROTHY ANNETTE
Alias: No Alias Records

542009MM002023XXAXMX 06/11/2009
Defendant: SYKES, HOPE A
Alias: No Alias Records

542009CF001150XXAXMX 06/29/2009
Defendant: SYKES, HOPE A
Alias: No Alias Records

542010CF000023XXAXMX 01/04/2010
Defendant: SYKES, HOPE A
Alias: No Alias Records

542010CF000143XXAXMX 01/21/2010
Defendant: SYKES, HOPE A
Alias: No Alias Records

542005IN000111WIAXCX 03/03/2005
Defendant: SYKES, JACKIE C
Alias: No Alias Records

542005IN000394BTAXCX 06/15/2005
Defendant: SYKES, JOHN W
Alias: No Alias Records

541990CF001435XXAXMX 10/16/1990
Defendant: SYKES, KEVIN DEAN
Alias: No Alias Records

541990MM001839XXAXMX 05/07/1990
Defendant: SYKES, KEVIN DEAN
Alias: No Alias Records

541997MM003859XXAXMX 09/17/1997
Defendant: SYKES, KRISTEN JANEL
Alias: No Alias Records

541999MM000804XXAXMX 03/04/1999
Defendant: SYKES, KRISTEN JANEL
Alias: No Alias Records

542002CF002026XXAXMX 11/20/2002
Defendant: SYKES, KRISTEN JANEL
Alias: No Alias Records

542003MM000624XXAXMX 02/06/2003
Defendant: SYKES, KRISTEN JANEL
Alias: No Alias Records

542008MM003808XXAXMX 09/23/2008
Defendant: SYKES, LEE ALLEN
Alias: No Alias Records

542008MM003927XXAXMX 10/06/2008
Defendant: SYKES, LEE ALLEN
Alias: No Alias Records

542009MM002234XXAXMX 06/29/2009
Defendant: SYKES, LEE ALLEN
Alias: No Alias Records

542010CF000158XXAXMX 01/22/2010
Defendant: SYKES, LEE ALLEN
Alias: No Alias Records

542010CF000159XXAXMX 01/22/2010
Defendant: SYKES, LEE ALLEN
Alias: No Alias Records

542010CF000160XXAXMX 01/22/2010
Defendant: SYKES, LEE ALLEN
Alias: No Alias Records

542010CF000161XXAXMX 01/22/2010
Defendant: SYKES, LEE ALLEN
Alias: No Alias Records

542010CF000162XXAXMX 01/22/2010
Defendant: SYKES, LEE ALLEN
Alias: No Alias Records

542010CF000278XXAXMX 02/02/2010
Defendant: SYKES, LEE ALLEN
Alias: No Alias Records

541989MM003264XXAXMX 07/25/1989
Defendant: SYKES, THOMAS ARTHUR
Alias: No Alias Records

541995CF000391XXAXMX 03/09/1995
Defendant: SYKES, THOMAS JEFFERSON
Alias: No Alias Records

541995MM001684XXAXMX 04/27/1995
Defendant: SYKES, THOMAS JEFFERSON
Alias: No Alias Records

542003MM002166XXAXMX 05/01/2003
Defendant: SYKES, THOMAS LEROY JR
Alias: No Alias Records

542006MM002193XXAXMX 05/22/2006
Defendant: SYKES, THOMAS LEROY JR
Alias: No Alias Records

Anybody know who lee allen sykes is?

I wonder if the Izor’s are possible relations to the Stallings or?

UCN: 541999MM001188XXAXMX
File Date: 04/01/1999
Judge: PETER T MILLER
Case Status: CASE CLOSED
Defense Atty:
Case File Location: RECORDS CENTER

Defendant: NEVES, TERESA S
Alias: No Alias Records

Date # Docket Description
04/01/1999 1 COMPLAINT: KATRINA SYKES HARASSING PHONE CALLS

05/11/1999 2 ANNOUNCEMENT OF NO INFORMATION

UCN: 542009MM002995XXAXMX
File Date: 08/18/2009
Judge: PETER T MILLER
Case Status: CASE CLOSED
Defense Atty:
Case File Location: CRIMINAL DIVISION

Defendant: SHEFFIELD, JOHNNY MARCUS
Alias: No Alias Records

Date # Docket Description
08/18/2009 1 COMPLAINT FILED: PCSO/ 08-15-09

12/22/2009 2 ANNOUNCEMENT OF NO INFORMATION TO BATTERY

UCN: 542006CF001188XXAXMX
File Date: 06/05/2006
Judge: TERRY J LARUE
Case Status: CASE CLOSED
Defense Atty:
Case File Location: RECORDS CENTER

Defendant: SHEFFIELD SR, JOHNNY MARCUS
Alias: SHEFFIELD, JOHNNY MARCUS

Date # Docket Description
06/05/2006 1 COMPLAINT – PCSO D/S K TRABER (5/22/06)

06/05/2006 1 AGGRAVATED BATTERY CHRIS HALBROOK

07/03/2006 2 ANNOUNCEMENT OF NO INFORMATION

I did not say that WhyLie,but imo she was very rude in the interview infront of the tent?? and imo she lied about the laundry,Just my opinion tho!

Ah yes, CJ, she says the photos seen within the doc on your link match the people (or closely resemble) that she and her hubby saw at the Goodwill. She seems pretty sure that one of them was Sapp and the two brothers looked familiar, too.

Alexandria, yes, on that same doc, they write that one of the men pushed Haleigh down to the floor board in the car at the gas station when he realized someone was looking at them. He acted paranoid and behaved suspiciously and anxiously.

Right Iketa!Have you watched the last day seen videos??

if not,very interesting,go to youtube type in haleigh cummings last day seen,4 parts i believe?

How many pages are there on these folks? A million? Sheesh.

Iketa- at the gas station where the man pushed the child down in back of car, is there a camera that could have taken at leasr a picture of the vehicle?

Alotta crime,about 200 yrs experience between em all Jaba,lol

2002-03-27 117.NOTICE OF VOLUNTARY DISMISSAL REC OR BK 889 PG 1906

IDK But what i get is 5 yrs later no proof and it was dropped?
Someone else may know more than me about that!

Take this with a grain of salt but relevant to what we were saying only!

from scared monkeys:
Ok, I found it, TN hadn’t worked since Sept 08, she’s waiting to collect a $50,000.00 ins settlement, heard she and GGMS are fond of suing.

Seems like when we originally searched records AGES ago that there was one for GGMS suing Walmart……anyone else remember that ::MonkeyEek::

CathyJo63 said,
in June 11th, 2010 at 3:21 pm

I did not say that WhyLie,but imo she was very rude in the interview infront of the tent?? and imo she lied about the laundry,Just my opinion tho!
—————–
Even Picazio said there was a stack of washed folded laundry on the table.

Levi Page: Do you agree with my theory that Teresa Neves was trying to act as if she had law enforcement connections to get the attention off of herself or her family? She arrived on the scene wearing a law enforcement jacket. Isn’t that an odd choice for a jacket? She also lied in an incident report she gave, where she stated that she worked as a dispatcher in Gainsville, but she had not worked there in sometime.

Pat Brown: I guess Neves “just happened” to be wearing the law enforcement jacket and “just happened” to forget that she wasn’t actually working at the job, but isn’t it useful to arrive and get on the good side of the cops right away.

Levi Page: Why do you think Teresa Neves defended Misty Croslin from the get-go despite her obvious suspicious behavior? She even told Art Harris that Misty ranked at the top of the list of Ronald’s girlfriends. Despite the fact that she knew Misty had been on a drug/sex/alchol binge with a scum bag known to be part of the criminal element in that community, shortly before Haleigh vanished.

Pat Brown: Doesn’t every girl wish she had a boyfriend mama like that? Gosh, you can cheat on her boy, endanger the children, get her granddaughter killed….and she still loves you. Misty is a lucky woman.

Levi Page: Why do you think instead of searching for her missing grandaughter that she instead chose to act as an enabler and encouraged the disgusting behavior of Ronald and Misty? For example she gave Misty a ring that belonged to the family, attended a party at Chili’s when Ronald proposed to Misty, and condoned their wedding all the while Haleigh was missing.

Pat Brown: Can you say “bribe”?

Levi Page: Generally speaking what role do you think she plays in Haleigh’s disappearance? Or what knowledge do you think she has?

Pat Brown: I would like to know exactly what Teresa Neves was doing that whole day from late afternoon until the police saw her at the house. Unless she has one heck of an alibi she could have:

She even had time to grab an 8×10 pic Too Looking,all that in what a mere 5 minutes?

Totally too prepared!

Exactly,It doesn’t make since and then in TN and RC jail call,she says to him,think she’ll talk” and then says “you managed to get that witch in a cell” wth???

imo her and ron were trying to mislead the public?

CathyJo you are right something is just not right there. I heard that to in the jail house visit with Ron and TN. How is Misty a witch when she was the best girl Ron ever had?

CathyJo that is why I believed Mistys statement in the last set of tapes. Misty said ” Ron and TN were pressuring her and telling her things to say.

IMHO ADAMS,THEY NEED TO RIP HER ASS AGIN!

Ditto CathyJo!!!!!!

Everyone’s ass should have been ripped wide open, and NO ONE should have complained about, after all it would have been done for HaLeigh’s sake, get cleared asap, and let LE do what they need to do!

The complaint can be found at Art Harris site. He has a copy of it. It is for phone harrassement. There is a n article that goes with it. I posted it about 2 weeks ago.

eXACTLY,WONDER WHY tn WAS NEVER ASKED TO TAKE A LD?
i KNOW THEY SAID EVERYONE WAS OFFERED ONE BUT DO YOU GUYS KNOW IF SHE DID!

i POSTED IT YESTERDAY TOO lOOKING,ON THE OTHER ARTICLE THO!

I have no clue if TN took an LDT, but she needs too if not!!

I saw this post and its a good one so i stole it,lol

TN obviously lied about either where she lived or when she got the news. There has been much debate about this issue. There is NO way she could have left the address she gave LE and driven to 202 in that timeframe. It’s that or she listed a different address… WHy?
It’s no mistake she wore that jacket…that’s a given. Under normal circumstances it would even be smart…even if you were no longer employed there. Hardly something I could see as an impulse on the way out the door though. The picture issue I have debated with the “friends of TN” crew at BNN. Unless it was sitting near the door of her home, it’s an odd choice. and very quick thinking.It is also one of few pictures that din’t reveal Haleigh’s birthmark(s).
In certain forums it is suicide to even broach this subject. Perserverance will pay off. I have to believe that.
March 31, 4:14 AM

Thats no doubt in my mind Looking,theres nothing else that it would even explain???

You are right CathyJo! i am sure that was not her everyday Jacket. If you get woken and find out your grandchild is missing you just usually grab what is close and out the door. No thorough thought process.

I do not know how truthful TN has been. But, I do know that had Ron been my son, he would never have married her and I wouldn’t have been singing her praises or trying to elect her “Girlfriend of the Year”! In fact my son wouldn’t have been involved with a underage chick, either because of his morals, or ’cause I beat the shit out of him!

right Looking,even if you remember a jacket,in fl?

Good Looking,as long as you see it that way i won’t feel so bad,lol

Bac , I completely understand where you are coming from in your post.
I knew Lyndsey was no goody two shoes.

CathyJo they both made sure they were with Misty in giving interviews.Misty said they were pressuring her and telling her things to say. I know people do not listen to Art Harris but on NG one night he said you can even ask TN. They were pressuring Misty. Misty would wake up sometimes and find TN standing over her just staring.

yes and she told TM and left a VM on his phone that Misty was acting really strange,ready to crack,omg i thought someone?? could kill her and say she did it herself and confessed,omg

bac- me too! The children come first and no matter what Misty has done, to me she was a child used by Ron and Haleigh paid for it, either through Ron’s doing or Misty’s blackout!

Guys, have had to just drop in and out today.
Looks like we are still looking at the Ron
theory. I tell you I think it’s him. This has
been two days straight for me.

What could he know to set up a deal!!!!I thought we may hear something this week.

Lindsy does not have to be divorced to collect state aid in Florida. The children’s father is in jail and their mother is unemployed. She qualifies for financial aid, food stamps, Medicaid, subsidized housing, and probably many other benefits.

Nothing he could know to set up a deal Coop,unless he lies like hello?? and we all know that answer!
They have them on tape dealing,so whats he gonna tell that makes any difference???

A former article had a blogger that thought Teresa could be involved. SHe was a local woman
that said TN was on the wild side (I think shaking her azz to get what she wanted was what the blogger said.) Then GGM Skyes warns Ron not to take there is a snitch in jail.

Ron’s grief process was so strange. We are taking about his child. Not a wife or a girlfriend.

Cathyjo What do you think the deal for 15 years is about

Trying to muddle through the posts from today…ugh. I don’t believe the Ron theory for one minute. I can’t picture him harming Haliegh, much less doing it before going to work and then go to work like nothing happened and then phone Misty all night and then react the way he did. Why would LE not list him as a suspect, etc? Why put him in gen pop, etc. Why would others cover for him and he is testifying against them? It’s just way too far out of a thought for me.
The only involvement I see Ron having is if he messed with the wrong people and they gave him a payback.

Lindsy probably has more security with the state than she did with the Tommy. Tommy is
really messed up if he can’t make it to the school drop off with his son.

Could Ron have held down a job while he was taking those pain pills or should I say would
he have been productive?

Another stolen post but interesting,
from BNN!
In this same interview we see Teresa, first and foremost, needing to “clear” Ron. Second and third, as I see it, keep Misty in the clear, and if not, destroy her credibility in case she talks truth because, thirdly, Tesesa is terrified that Misty could be the one to land her in jail. I mean, Teresa is appearing with her own attorney.

Link. Video to the left of the story: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/…n5251508.shtml

First question by reporter for Teresa: “…what’s the latest you’ve been told about where police stand on this investigation?”

TN: Umm..my son has been cleared and they are looking into the details of Misty’s account.

(Yet, Ron’s own attorney, I believe it was on Nancy Grace, told the world that Ron could not be cleared, that he continued to be on the list of suspects, though he’d been moved farther down on that list).

As with her mother in the “that’s a crock” interview, Teresa’s main objective, no matter the question being asked, is to speak about Ron and his “innocence.”

Cathyjo that mobile home was Lindsy grandfather’s. Which is Guy Sapp. The quit claim deed was giving it back . He probably put in in their names so they could take advantage of a lower tax since it would be their homestead. He works in the property appraiser office in Flagler County. He would
know all the work arounds with the Homestead
Laws etc. etc

right,thats why i said i was mistaken,lol

hmm jen lee? I saw that name but skipped over it b/c i didn’t remember hearing it ever!

she was caught off guard in that video,the others she knew were coming!

to grab a pic she would have to be home Jen?

unless she knew she’d need it and had it before,lol

thats why they both protected the one suspect??

betcha bottom dollar,rc is your man in black!
thats my theoy and i am sticking to it! jmo

12 miles away jen,remembered also to bring her sherriff jacket and the pic that shows birthmarks clearly??? all in 3 min -5???

Yep Cathyjo I can’t wait until it comes out.
The Croslin’s were a diversion while LE got this nightmare figured out. I tell you if that
Grandmother had anything to do with this I am going to spit. As, a Florida taxpaper I will resent every nickle they use to house and feed her. I didn’t know she was unemployed and on
pills too.(legal pill head I guess)

12 miles wouldn’t matter if she was already in route.

she wasn’t in route,she said herself she was home,didn’t you see her greta inteview?

TN was a dispatcher in Alacha County and how long did she work there as a dispatcher.
I tell you one thing if Putnam County LE showed up and an Alacha County dispatcher was
trying to look official. She would know better, I would think.

rons plea deal was only offered by his attorney to the state, imo. He says he would testify against tc and mc.

For all we know he would write a statement admitting guilt and who was with him at the time in a guilty plea.

They could call him for the trial anyway and he could talk or plead the fifth on what he did.

This was rons offer. He’s dead to rights on tape like misty, heck, with misty in several.

No one framed these people, imo, the video we’ve seen shows that plain and clear.

exactly Alex,the thing was tho i guess? Is ok,misty looked under the bed,so did ron so they called teresa and she thought too Haleigh was still under the bed so she brought a pic so she could show ron and misty what she looked like cause they still couldn’t locate her under the bed!

Can you imagine how LE in Putnam County must feel. This has got to be a nightmare of a case.
I sure hope they have found a loophole so they can get more funding for this case? I would hate to see a budget shortfall stop the investigation. If things don’t change LE is going to need funding for current mandated services.

Her Sheriff jacket meant nothing (except maybe in her own mind)… when you work for LE you are allowed to purchase them, t-shirts, hats… they are different than issued ones that a Deputy or Official Officers wear. And if you’re NOT a SWORN Officer, you are NOT allowed to imply that you are, especially to the public.

Yes, but the facts get misconstrued. Maybe she meant yes she was home, but maybe not distinctly referring to when Ron called her, but to ‘when she got the call’.

youre right Jen,we don’t have all the facts due to RC and TN!

I just looked up the Eliesha Izor spelling and found that she was possibly married to a Tommy J. Mullins in Palatka, Fl.
Does this name seem familiar to anyone?
Also saw a pic of her and she looks like a female I recall seeing in either a video or pic during the beginning of the investigation.

…Still searching.

I was married for 25 yrs and if i came home from work and left my dtr with her daddy? By golly he’d better be able to show me where she is when i do get home and ask?

Its the truth Coop,I am sick of it all!!!! ya know! Not one of Haleighs own loved ones,ppl she herself would have fought for have done nothing but lie and uphold one another,where the hell is Haleigh?
They dunno,and i have a hard time believing they even care at this point!

Who knows! I think LE would of looked at all of that by now. It’s been over a year. They still have no suspects, persons of interest or anything. No evidence, no nothing. Except 3 people in jail for drugs who they keep hoping to still get info out of about Haleigh.

If LE would of looked for Jaycee Duggard and followed up on what her stepfather told them (he was the last to see her at the bus stop and reported her being pulled into a car by a woman), then they wouldn’t of spent 18 years “blaming him and ruining his whole life!” And Jaycee would not of lived in the backyard at Garrido’s for 18 years under a tent! They too were sure he had something to do with it and was lying to them. Sad it has taken this long for him to be free…and Jaycee too.

Just saying.

Thanks Tuff… now I’m thinking that perhaps her grilling was because of implying, or name dropping! You just never know, do ya?

grrrr Cricket,what info were you interested in,i already forgot,lol shewwwwww But i’ll find whatever ya neeed???? n’p

right Jen,me too,just sayin! lol

HallelujaHHHHH Jen!!!!!! Need to do something,jail don’t scre em’its like a vacation to these idiots!

Amen Adams,Amen!

I don’t know Coop,not that i have heard?

Jaycee’s stepfather wasn’t the only one who last saw her! A neighbor also witnessed what happened!LE didn’t beleive either of them. And then you have the incompetents who can’t even find them in the backyard when neighbors said they were there. Philip Garrido was a good liar and con man,like a lot of people involved with Haleigh! jmo

Lets put them all in with Van Der Sloot and see how long they last. I bet their underwear and bad food would be the last thing they would think to complain about.

Little ole Misty coulda been broke in a day if she knew???????

I dunnin went and got all mad,rofl see what they do to me?

This one CJ

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/…n5251508.shtml

OK Cathyjo I just don’t know what the protocol is for these CNN show etc. I would think it’s a great opportunity to raise awareness about your child. However, who gave Misty the resources to go to NY. That is not cheap and especially if you do anything in the city!

CathyJo: TN has not taken a polygraph and had not been asked to. Cobra had mentioned something about NG footing the bill for TN to have some work done, chemical face peel and some other stuff, so that she would look better on TV. All of this info is at least 3 or 4 months old.

You are saying the same as I have for months. RC and his beloved Mother and Grandmother are the “keys” to this whole mess.

I’ve been following Pat Brown’s blog for quiet some time now. I believe she knows what she’s talking about.
IMO

Two people have said they were at the MH that night, Tommy and Misty. I do not believe Misty hurt Haleigh, but I could be wrong, that leaves Tommy. I think Tommy is more then capable of doing about anything.

Jaycee Duggard is one major reason as for why I flatly REFUSE to give up on Haleigh Cummings or any other missing Child’s case that I become aware of!
Jaycee Duggard was found alive but sadly that is no guarantee for any other missing Child.
I am always hopeful don’t get me wrong. It makes no difference for me either way though because although the most positive outcome would be to find Children who are living it’s all about justice in the matter, that and for sure it’s about doing what we can to ensure that not another Child would have to suffer at the hands of anyone else!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVfdV00cers&feature=related

I know she hasn’t lucy but the le offered one to everyone involved? I know i’d take one?

Yep I have been a little ticked at the Croslin
/ Cummings Clan. Stop the damn lying. It cost manhours to prove every point. Those manhours and resources could have been used for Haleigh’s investigation. I just don’t like my tax dollar going to keep up the likes of this bunch. I don’t resent Lindsy and her kids eating and living indoors but I have a problem keeping that bunch locked up on my dollar.
I wish we could exile Ron…

if she weren’t lying,she’d take one on her own,even Misty offered that and who knows they didn’t talk her into it?

LE giving free LD and everyone didn’t line up is crazy. Take the thing so they can get to the nitty gritty and find the missing baby.

won’t even protect Haleigh,BS!!!!!!

I doubt Crystal can tell time either.

IMO, the Croslin’s are just stupid and vulnerable enough to be set up by the real crooks. Misty has said it herself, she only repeats what others have told her and was intimidated and bullied by everyone involved(RC,TN,&AS). Misty’s been set up and Tommy was taken along for the ride. Tommy wasn’t going along with the story, hence, dead headless rat in the mailbox. The actual “keys” are the 3 stooges, Ron, Teresa, and good ole’ Granny Sykes. I just seems to me, that Misty would’ve cracked by now.
It’s all very strange. Very limited communication concerning Ron has been released and I don’t think it’s an oversight. Maybe, LE wants Ron to think he’s got a comfort zone. Although, Ron and his family isn’t stupid enough to slip up on tape.
I’m stuck on the “Ron” did it theory. Sorry to those feel he’s not involved. All IMO only.

These people are lacking in a lot of things we take for granted and would not question. It’s hard to figure out, because the things they do are so different from what we would do.

wowwwww

In an interview with NBC’s “Today” this morning, Haleigh Cummings’ paternal grandmother said she suspects former daughter-in-law Misty Croslin is the key to finding the little girl.

“I believe, whether or not she realizes it, Misty is holding something that could possibly help Haleigh’s case,” Teresa Neves told NBC’s Ann Curry. “All the law enforcement have said she is the key to this. You have to figure that there’s something that she’s not telling.”

Neves said she didn’t know if Croslin is withholding information on purpose or subconsciously.

Croslin and her ex and Haleigh’s father, Ronald Cummings, were arrested in a drug sting last week in Putnam County. They each face multiple counts of trafficking charges and remain jailed.

But the main focus on “Today” was Haleigh, who has been missing nearly a year. Grandmother Neves said she didn’t believe Croslin had done anything to hurt the 5-year-old girl.

“It has been a very hard year,” Neves said. The grandmother highlighted the challenge of keeping the child’s face in the media spotlight. Neves spoke to “Today” via satellite from Welaka.

“Haleigh has the most beautiful smile,” Neves said. “It lights up a room, and it warms your heart. And we just miss her smile.”

Yes, he asks that too. How much time do we have left???? Then silence. Then the ‘I love you’s’ start for a while. Then, how much time do we have left?

wonder why that wasn’t TN first thought!

Where Did Misty Cummings Go When She Left Home?

TJ Hart
Enquiring minds have been wondering just where did the stepmom of missing Haleigh Cummings go without her husband this week as she was seen leaving with a girlfriend.

Unconfirmed rumors had it that Misty Cummings and husband Ronald Cummings had a bitter argument over the weekend as a pond was being drained a short ways away in the search for Ronald’s 6-year-old daughter Haleigh who who vanished back in February. However, Misty was seen on WESH-2 TV video kissing Ronald goodbye as she left with a woman to an undisclosed location.

Misty was indeed in Orlando with the intent to visit Universal Studios according to her attorney and according to her mother-in-law Teresa Neves. Ronald and his son Junior were to meet up with Misty in Orlando today, but things changed after the media discovered their plans and made them public.

Misty is expected home today .
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Neves tells 97.3 The Sky her boyfriend paid for the tickets.

My ex had friend that couldn’t read or write. I new him for yrs. before I found it out.

true Adams,!!!!!!!!!!

yes! CathyJo we know it was Tim Miller who paid for Misty during that time. Why lie about something so darn simple?

it also shows the locks?

LFJ… hee hee, I understood!

Of course, I don’t really know what Misty is capable of doing as far as life-essentials/skills.

Misty described the clock to be a digital clock and the numbers are lit up in red.

sniff,sniff but never a tear!

looking for Justice said,in June 11th, 2010 at 6:37 pm yes! CathyJo we know it was Tim Miller who paid for Misty during that time. Why lie about something so darn simple?
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And if TN knew the truth then RC must have also known the truth so why did he tip Misty off about Donna Brock like he allegedly did?

That is right Tuff!! That was in his best interest to find his daughter. Why did he do that? He knows!!!

It seems as if they let out just enough rope for Misty and then wham! That rope got sinched up in a quick second!

JenM Ron did not get home until 3:24am. In the original police report it said that Misty said she woke a little before 3AM. Why wait until Ron gets home and then wait 4 minutes to call 911?

If Rons phone was off it would not ping.

So, here is my thought….if Ron did call TN and she arrived in 5 min or less from 12 miles away, etc…..

I think she “says” she was at home when Ron called, because she is covering for Misty. TN doesn’t want Ron to know that Misty didn’t call 911 right away or call him at work. They both knew he would be furious. So they lie together. TN says she ‘just found out’ when Ron tells her. Timmy and Chelsea, same thing…no way would they rat out Misty for trying to find out where Haliegh was for a while before Ron got off work! He would kill her for not calling him and calling 911 right away.

That’s why when they ask him, ‘Ron, did Misty call 911 right away, or why did she wait…”
Ron always says that Misty called right away as soon as she discovered Haleigh missing.
Misty illudes to the 3 on the clock, because she doesn’t want to admit to what time Haleigh went missing because Ron will be furious with EVERYONE, not just Misty, for not letting him know and not calling 911 right away.

Thats my thought on how human behavior works in situatons such as this.

wow,new one Crystal Sheffield said,if they’re coming to get my dna today,Tell them i have an appt…….lol sheeeesh

I had never seen this!
http://article.wn.com/view/2010/03/15/Paedophile_teacher_Gerard_Raffell_paid_off_parents_of_4yearo/

Off the topic- 1 yr old hostage is still being held. LE delivered a package of water, food and diapers. 80 people are still displaced from the surrounding apartments!

here tn and rc lawyered up? wth?

LFJ, I would think that if he got home at 3:24, waiting 4 minutes after he arrives is not that long. He would want an explanation and then call for Haleigh himself to find her, then call 911, while he is loading his gun to find the mf that stole his child.

However, those are the times we have been given and they really don’t mean a lot because we don’t know if they are even accurate.

Alex, here again we have two different accounts. Ron first said Misty opened the door. In the second he said when he pulled up Misty was standing in the doorway he got out and he asked her what she was doing up and that is when she told him the back door was propped open and your daughter is gone. Why tell Ron your daughter is gone and then tell 911 our daughter is gone?

CJ it seems that around the time when TN lawyered up is when the calls from TN to whomever about Misty allegedly being ready to “break” came about also no?

Why would TN need legal representation if that were the case?

Glad you brought up that little search, stilllucy. I agree with the main things that have been said. Ron is guilty, no doubt in my mind. Of what, exactly, that is where my question lies.

stilllucy isn’t the area that TN led Cobra to search the same area where a retired Marine with a temper for trespassers lives also? (I don’t recall exactly where that man lives.)

THEYRE AS GUILTY AS SIN….IMO THO ONLY!

We know for a fact that 911 call was made at 3:27am.

TS: Absolutely! Why would TN need to lawyer up when she has NG on speed dial? LLLLLOOOOOLLLLLL!

Why is it that Ron made Misty call 911? Misty had only known Haleigh for a short time. You hear Misty at one point in the call say I don’t want, but then she gets on the phone again.

You would think that at least Ron & Misty would both agree on what happened when Ron got home. But Ron says the door was open and Misty says she opened it!

“He had to give up his freedom to bring Haleigh home, and that is what he has done”

Remember TN Saying that,loleven the video was removed??

thats why i believe Misty really don’t know,she was protecting ron!!!!

Misty was coached I believe and she could not keep the story correct as she was told. Now in jail Misty is starting to lose it, but fears what her punishment will be as well for her involvement with the cover-up.

TN says
“[Ronald] feels like they’re so certain that Misty knows something and that Misty is going to say something while she’s in there. He feels like if there’s anything she does know, then she’s going to tell it,” Neves explained.
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“He tried. He’s only been hanging around her for two or three weeks, trying to befriend her, find out what he could – and this is what happened,” Neves said. “It’s like he said, if it brings Haleigh home, it’s all worth it.”

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/l…151293&catid=3

I’d betcha my sox on it Looking!

Why wouldn’t Misty tell the truth about what she knows? IMO she is afraid of someone or something. If true then who or what is Misty afraid of?

Snakes and hogpens video? Looking,i still say there was a bad vibe there too!

Misty could come out of this looking like the hero. She could gain some public sympathy. If, she would just tell what she does know. Sometimes I think she needs a shrink more than an attorney. Or maybe, her attorney needs a shrink.

TS: I’ve picked up some funnies from our friend CathyJo…….She’s a blast! I put her right up there with JB! My heros……..
Oh yeah, IMO!

I wonder who the property owner is/was that owned the area of land that TN led Cobra to search too.

dunno for sure but i was told that the man who owned that property always shot at whoever was on the property but he wasn’t home?? i dunno tho!!!!!!!

Cate: It just felt like TN was setting Cobra up for something, IMO. Too weird. TN was inserting herself into that detective mode as she has done since then too. Just all too weird.

I remember reading the same thing CJ. How can we look up that info?

stillucy, and now you are really making me laugh, “Sometimes I think she needs a shrink more than an attorney. Or maybe, her attorney needs a shrink.”

Misty definitely needs a shrink. This is embarrassing to admit but one of the reasons that I sympathize with her is that I was “unclear about reality” in the way that she seems to be, when I was her age. I didn’t keep track of time (I did, however, know how to read an analog clock in addition to a digital) and there was a fuzzy line between what really happened and the way that I wanted to think that it happened. I wasn’t on drugs, either. Some of us are just wired this way. And in Misty’s case, when you add the drugs… I do believe that she is capable of “reconstructing the truth,” but she may well need a therapist to assist.

you could even tell by TN actions that something was up,she kept looking around all nervous when Cobra knocked?

Sorry JenM- it’s a big difference- Ron said he drove up and door was open, he saw Misty standing there, I beleive he asked her what she was doing out there or words to that effect.
Misty says she opened the door and Ron was there! As if she was shocked to see him! If the door was open when Ron drove up, surely Misty would have heard him coming and would not have been surprised when she saw him at the door!

Cate, in my opinion, this is what has been holding up the case. I think they are trying to get Misty on the right medications that will clear her thought processes a little and uncloud her thinking. I think she is seeing a psychiatrist. I also think she has Dissociative Disorder with Amnesia from witnessing a traumatic event (the taking of Haleigh).
that is my sincere opinion.

bbl, darling hubby home with pizza!!!!!!

Alex, I guess its just a play on words and semantics can be tricky. I hope it doesn’t hold a big key to this case as far as what happened to Haleigh.

I also read an article where AS clearly explains to the reporter that she is “well known” in the area.
Well it’s a fact of life that pretty much everyone has enemies. So far none of her enemies have had a word to say about any of the family as far as I can tell.
Seems very odd imvho.

Of course it appeared that someone showed up here to post who allegedly knew TN and this person didn’t mince words much about her though.

JenM- I agree with you on the disassociate disorder with amnesia but not necessarily that it was the taking of Haleigh ( that that’s still open to me) but that she witnessed something more tragic!

Alex, yes, the cases usually seen in psych are something done to that person themselves. They were raped, etc. But will deny it, because they don’t recall. Could of been that or could of been seeing something done to Haleigh?

Hell, I don’t even want to think about that, so Im sure she doesn’t either. It takes meds and therapy. I hope its worth the wait for us to find out.

I can’t find anything different at all guys,the sanke and hogpens story?

right Cate,though i have never been able to confirm it?? lol

I wonder though too since the woman with the dog does some type of therapy sessions with people there locally, if it were possible that there might perhaps be some type of connection between her and AS also, due to RC’s GrandFather’s condition before he passed on or?

…Just a thought.

odd to me Lucy,Cobra was investigating more leads??

he had alot of drug connections,ya know talking to the druggies who trusted hhim?

TS: Now that’s a thought. Maybe that’s why LE is ignoring her calls, the personal relationship. I can’t imagine that LE would ignore her if they felt that she actually had something to contribute to the case of HaLeigh.
Seems like they’ve listened to alot of bunk from everyone and everywhere else, ie:Granny Hollars!

sad but oh so true!

OK admission time. I LOL’d loudly at ya that time CJ.
LMAO!
bbl

I have a hard time taking what Cobra says as gospel. He also said that KP was sitting on his motel bed with cut-up feet after doing the Oprah! Then he changed that.

Adams,all of em are for me now but he cusses like a sailor and i do too when i think about this case so maybe he’s frustrated as i am! lol

CathyJo… I do too in my ever day life!

CathyJo: To hear Cobra tell it, he’s had more leads than anyone. The criminal element would talk to him before LE. Makes sense but LE doesn’t trust him for that exact reason. LE doesn’t trust stories from people with histories. Been there, done that.

TS: We all gotta do what we gotta do. And for me, I got a way with the “crazies’! They trust me. I listen, forever, I never tell them that I will do something that I can’t, they know that I keep my word, and I always follow thru. I still get calls from clients from back then. Sometimes it’s a little creepy but, I subscribe to the belief, what goes around, comes around. It’s a karma thing!
Who knows, maybe I’m just a wee bit crazy! Hush up, OJ!!!!!LOL, again!

shoot,I gotta buy aunt Jamima syrup just to have somebody smile at me in the mornings,lol

right,I use to adore ole Cobra and i’d rather be striped than to turn bout face on him but i started wondering awhile back myself!

I’m glad i do Lucy,atleast somebody in the real world enjoys me,LoL

LE started with shaky hands/feet on shaky ground.

ain’t that the truth Adams!
More twisted than the kids on different strokes!

I’m not sure how real my world is but, whatever I can add, I surely will try.
Do you ever get tired of people asking you for info that was talked about months ago. I followed you all on here for months before I dipped my toes in the water. Sometimes I just wany to scream at the laptop: HEY, done did that months ago! It just seems like everything is out there for the looking. I researched this stuff for months and months. It creeped me out from the very beginning and then along came the Geraldo interview….WOW! Really made me want to know more about this family. The way they all converged on him and his crew…and then they banned him, Geraldo, from like the town. Too weird…..That family is messed up and they all know something about what happened to HaLeigh. I don’t how people like that can sleep nights.

boy do I Lucy,Once this woman calls into N/g and asks,how did they get in,omg where do you live,under the sea somewhere? my God,what do ya think the damn brick is for????

Anybody watch Nurse Jackie on Showtime?

I think even bugs bunny could answer that ?

Thats what I don’t get,how can anyone,(not knocking ya jen) lol but anyone at all excuse that? Its as plain as daylight!!!!!

I don’t have cable Adams,sob,sob

if i had Tommys ears I wouldn’t have that problem!

I couldn’t resist,lol gotta call dtr back,she calls collect and i deny,she don’t have LD? LoL

Has Hope been sent to prison yet! Do they record those visits too?

CathyJo63 said,in June 11th, 2010 at 7:27 pm shoot,I’d have been on ole Cobras shoulders if i seen a snake? crazy
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cathy your too much..

imo lADY,SHE BROUGHT THE PIC TO SHOW MISTY AND RON WHAT SHE LOOKED LIKE CAUSE APPARENTLY THEY’D FORGOT AND COULDN’T FIND HER UNDER THE BED EITHER?

o wow cool! Adams,lol ty

Well OJ,I would!he had a gun too!

BTW, I am off work on the 21st, and unless something else comes up I am going to go to Donna Brock’s hearing, LOL. Everything is kept so quiet about her and that is just so strange that I want to be there in person and hear what happens because I don’t think the news stations are going to cover anything about it.

LS: So, what’s the gossip down there? Anything at all going on?

you lucky dog Lady!

stilllucy, no we aren’t hearing anything, so frustrating! Even though I did hear from a friend who works at the Juvie Center that Lindsy didn’t get the job at the Juvie Center because she has misdemeanor’s on her record and she acted really silly in the interview (they do NOT run credit checks like she told Tommy), but that is just “gossip” between friends and I don’t know if it is true or not. Just to clarify – I am repeating gossip that I have no way of verifying, so don’t anyone go saying it is gospel truth, LOL.

That’s plausible. Juvenile Centers have to be more careful about background checks. Ofcourse, her name didn’t help at all. Can you just imagine the influence that would have had on juvenile detainees? What a joke that would’ve been. I understand that it’s just gossip but, plausible.
Didn’t DB say she had tapes hidden? I remember something about they were hidden if anything was to happen to her. You know that LE has probably got search warrants and looked everywhere for those tapes if, they exist.

any speculation when Nancy Grace will have an update on this case? It has really been quiet as of late….

I don’t think Lindsy should be working around juveniles, she seems to flirt a lot even asking Tommy if his jailmates thought she was hot!

oh totally agree with Lindsy comments… she loved talking about her tan and short shorts on her last jail visit. Do either of you know of she is moving ahead with the divorce?

I hope she doses but I fear she will find someone worse!

I haven’t heard about the divorce for a few weeks now. If I’m not mistaken, Tommy’s attorney said Lindsey had put it on hold but she didn’t withdraw the divorce. I guess that would put them as legally separated for the time, in more ways than one……..

Alex: She comes across as someone that’s starving for attention. She must not have gotten that at home before Tommy was arrested. He was probably too busy getting high and running around and then all of a sudden, she’s his lifeline. IMO

June 28 they have a meeting on the divorce, it is not on hold. Look under the dockets in Putnam county civil cases its all there. And I believe she stayed with Tommy because he always reassured her of how beautiful she was, and for him she is, he isnt the greatest looking guy. jmo

She’s not visiting or taking his calls, as of the filing. I kinda have a feeling that she got some info from Timmy & Chelsea when on vacation and her family has drawn a line in the sand. She’s too dependent on her family for housing and money to cross that line. IMO

wow, Chelsea really is loving this so called fame.. in one of her interviews she proceeded to say that she and Timmy are known as the CAP COD COUPLE.. whatev…..

that was hilarious!!!

And as she said in the last tape her father is back. He had a job that was given to someone else and he had to come back. So now she has more pressure to cut ties with the Croslins, which may be the best move for her and the kids. Does anyone know if her mothers name is Barbara? If anyone knows it would be helpful.jmo

Chelsea is also trying to peddle Misty’s letter(s) for a new car….Gotta love that family, so supportive! I guess the Padilla Well ran dry!

Tobias: Not sure but, CathyJo should be back soon. You know, she’s probably got that info!

Have you guys seen the pic of Tommy,Jo,Timmy,Hank and i believe Austin,they’re all sitting or leaned up against a fence,but gotta tellya,they looked all comfy with Jo in the pic but if I saw Timmy coming toward me even in broad daylight,I’d burn the rubber off my soles getting away!

All 3, are Tommy and Lindsey’s children,

Flagler? Do you have a link? Not poking just very interested. Haven’t heard about it that I can recall……

upsets some? well gee,the whole thing upsets me,lol but actually i have forgotten,thought it was Julie,i dunno i forget,never hear much about em,sec ill find it tho

There is bad blood there way before Haleigh went missing you can tell when Hank and Tommy talk about them. jmo

Where can I see the pic of the guys?

i have it,resend me an email,u have mine right?

Tobias: Can you throw me a clue, names, dates for the previously mentioned comment?

There was bad blood there. Lindsey’s family was tired of her putting up with all the crap from Tommy. Wasn’t there a previous claim of abuse against Tommy by Lindsey?
IMO

i just read it,grrrrrr
but send me an email cuz i deleted you last time as promised Tobias?

They rescued the baby!

oh,i see,well email to me if ya can Tobias,lol I’ll investigate it!

awwww Alex,Thank God!!! Great news!!!!!

oh ok,flagler hmmm

The baby is okay. Someone was on a guerney & placed in an ambulance!

Cathy I sent you an e mail about why , send me the pics of the croslins, if I find the docket again I will e mail it to you, I have to get up at 4 so no time tonight sorry but as soon as I can on Saturday okay.

Good night, Tobias. Sorry, I’m deep in Flagler Clerk of the Courts records…….

OMG Cathy that isnt Joe. Timmy is the one on the far right, Hank, Dont know for sure YET who the guy is next and Tommy with a vey young Austin. I would say it was taken at Flagler beach when they lived there. Look how different Hank looks, he is alot younger in this pic. I am going to check on who the unknown guy is I have a guess its who I emailed you about but not sure, those tats will give me a clue though. Tlk tommorrow.jmo

2005 CT 000712 A STATE OF FLORIDA VS. CROSLIN, HANK T

File Date 04/07/2005 Case Status CLOSED (CRIM/CIVIL) Case Status Date 12/15/2005
Case Disposition CLOSED (CRIMINAL/NONCRIMINAL) Case Disposition Date 12/15/2005

Party Information
Party Name Party Alias(es) Party Type Attorney(s) Attorney Phone
CROSLIN, HANK T TOMMY
CROSLIN, HANK T
CROSLIN, HANK T
DEFENDANT MEYER, SCOTT W (386)226-2636

Party Charge(s)
Case Party CROSLIN, HANK T
Count Code Description Disposition Disposition
Date
1 316.192(2)(A) RECKLESS DRIVING -2M GUILTY 06/30/2005

Party Charge Sentence
Probation Type: Years: 000 Months: 06 Days: 00 Start Date:

Docket Entries

Date Text
12/15/2005 Historical Receipt Amount: 2.00 Status: PY Fee code: ASFB Method: CASH
12/15/2005 Historical Receipt Amount: 16.25 Status: PY Fee code: JVDIVM Method: CASH
12/15/2005 Historical Receipt Amount: 20.00 Status: PY Fee code: CMPRVM Method: CASH
12/15/2005 Historical Receipt Amount: 16.25 Status: PY Fee code: CTTECM Method: CASH
12/15/2005 Historical Receipt Amount: 16.25 Status: PY Fee code: LLM Method: CASH
12/15/2005 Historical Receipt Amount: 16.25 Status: PY Fee code: LEAIDM Method: CASH
12/15/2005 Historical Receipt Amount: 50.00 Status: PY Fee code: LCJTFM Method: CASH
12/15/2005 Historical Receipt Amount: 1.00 Status: PY Fee code: CKCCT Method: CASH
12/15/2005 Historical Receipt Amount: 3.00 Status: PY Fee code: DOR Method: CASH
12/15/2005 Historical Receipt Amount: 49.00 Status: PY Fee code: CCT-M Method: CASH
12/15/2005 CLOSED CASE
12/15/2005 COURT EVENT
12/15/2005 RESTITUTION HEARING COURT EVENT DISPOSED
12/15/2005 PAYMENT OF $ 190.00 RECEIVED ON 190
12/07/2005 C/228, JDG: HON. SHARON ATACK
12/07/2005 RESTITUTION HEARING SET FOR 12/15/2005 AT 09:30 IN
10/11/2005 RESTITUTION HEARING COURT EVENT DISPOSED
09/06/2005 COURT EVENT
09/06/2005 NOTICE OF RESTITUTION HEARING
09/06/2005 C/228, JDG: HON. SHARON ATACK
09/06/2005 RESTITUTION HEARING SET FOR 10/11/2005 AT 03:30 IN
06/30/2005 CONV LCJTFM ACCT CODE
06/30/2005 CONV CCT-M ACCT CODE
06/30/2005 CONV CMPRVM ACCT CODE
06/30/2005 CONF CTTECM ACCT CODE
06/30/2005 CONV LEAIDM ACCT CODE
06/30/2005 CONV LLM ACCT CODE
06/30/2005 CONV JVDIVM ACCT CODE
06/30/2005 CONV DOR ACCT CODE
06/30/2005 CONV ASFB ACCT CODE
06/30/2005 CON CKCCT ACCT CODE
06/30/2005 ASSESSED COUNTY COURT COST 190.00 DUE 11/27/2005
06/30/2005 COURT EVENT
06/30/2005 JUDGMENT AND SENTENCE – BOOK 1594 PAGE 995
06/30/2005 WRITTEN GUILTY/NO CONTEST
06/30/2005 PRE-TRIAL COURT EVENT DISPOSED
06/30/2005 REPORTING PROBATION FOR 6 MOS – CNT 1
06/30/2005 GUILTY 1
06/30/2005 DEFENDANT APPEARED PRES W/ATTY FOR NO TRIAL TRIAL 1
06/30/2005 DEFENDANT ENTERED PLEA OF GUILTY 1
06/09/2005 STATE’S DISCOVERY EXHIBIT
06/09/2005 INFORMATION FILED AS TO COUNTS: 1
06/03/2005 ORDER ON MOTION TO CONTINUE
06/02/2005 COURT EVENT
06/02/2005 HON. SHARON ATACK
06/02/2005 PRE-TRIAL SET FOR 06/30/2005 AT 02:00 IN C/228, JDG:
06/02/2005 PRE-TRIAL CASE CONTINUED TO
06/02/2005 MOTION TO CONTINUE
06/01/2005 DEMAND FOR DISCOVERY
06/01/2005 NOTICE OF APPEARANCE AND WRITTEN PLEA OF NOT GUILTY
06/01/2005 DEFENSE ATTY: MEYER, W. SCOTT ASSIGNED
04/19/2005 COURT EVENT
04/19/2005 HON. SHARON ATACK
04/19/2005 PRE-TRIAL SET FOR 06/02/2005 AT 08:59 IN C/228, JDG:
04/19/2005 ARRAIGNMENT CASE CONTINUED TO
04/19/2005 PROSECUTOR: WESTBROOK, WILLIAM SCOTT ASSIGNED
04/08/2005 HON. SHARON ATACK
04/08/2005 ARRAIGNMENT SET FOR 04/19/2005 AT 09:00 IN C/228, JDG:
04/08/2005 JUDGE HON. SHARON ATACK ASSIGNED
04/07/2005 SWORN COMPLAINT 1
04/07/2005 CASE FILED WITH CLERK

When i saved the pic it listed him as Jo,omg lol

No go look at Timmy on his my space tim croslin
He is the one on the far right. jmo

I found all of that. Why would anyone be upset about that being exposed? We already knew about all of that. No different than all of the cases that have been brought here before. Oh well, tread lightly.
It’s not a wonder that her family is upset. I get it…..

Lucy,Right,but a second ago we were discussing why Lindsey was divorcing Tommy,and i had said,this tile she went through cuz she knows he can’t bully her,lol thats why and when i saw this it confirmed it for me!

Sorry,Tobias,I’m glad i figured it out,well you did,lol and yes,I saw wheat you were telling me about,geeeez

I get your point, I just don’t understand why anyone here would be upset about someone bringing this info to light. We had heard about their problems before.

I’d like to know what you all are talking about but don’t want to cause trouble either!

so can i get the croslin boys pic somehow? i know i shouldn’t post my email here but, how else?

so what was tobias talking about? why did it upset people?

Going back to an earlier discussion, Guy Sapp is Lindsy Kate Collins Crolins’ grandfather. Is Guy Sapp related to Donald Sapp and therefore, Lindsy related to Regan’s ???

Thats what i wondered Cate??

pennyloafer63@gmail.com,send me an email and ill send you and anybody else a pic!

Well, Cathy Jo, maybe this weekend I’ll have time to work out the family trees… I certainly owe ya’!

Lucy,at this point if i were in their families,I’d deserve to be talked about!!!!!!

imo Lucy,thats why we have never heard about Rons ld,work….etc……..nor TN’s??

rofl,that’ll do it,i do it myself,lol

Thanks for the pics CJ!

Thanks for the pics CJ!

lol Cate,put mine together when you’re done,i never could,
between my adoption and my husbands never knowing his dad,its hard for my dtr and grandson to know alot of their history? let alone us never knowing either! Crazy!

robin said,in June 11th, 2010 at 10:50 pm No the Foxes were nothing like what we are dealing with here, but yet Kevin Fox was accused of murdering Riley and he falsely confessed. LE sounds just like what we have here and they would not listen to any evidence that would exonerate Kevin. They even interrogated the son and tried to get him to say bad things about Kevin. The Fox murder was a stranger abduction even when LE said it wasn’t. I don’t care if these people lie until the cows come home, it still don’t make them murderers. I don’t know what kind of interrogations these people faced, but I can guarantee there was intense pressure that could cause someone to make up something LE wants to hear. We might not understand why people lie when they really know nothing or is not responsible for a crime, but it happens all the time. JMO
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this is why TORTURE doesn’t work..the tortured say what the torturers want to hear..

CJ63, I’ll get to the roots of your family tree, if you like! It’s so much fun for me. A few cells from this cheek and that and — no, old fashioned way is cheaper.

Why was Haleighs pink shirt she was wearing (per Misty) with the
laundry pile?

Just wondering if there was “pee” on it too. Like the blanket Misty said she washed.

IMO Mary,because the man in black brought in back home while she was at the interrogation thingy? jmo

Wouldn’t know where to start Cate really i wouldn’t,lol
I have tried but when you never get the truth its just impossible!

I do believe Misty now,and even she said she don’t know what happened but she blurted out to Hank,I don’t know if that was Jo or not that night”
That just slipped off her tongue and she said she was trying to put it together in her own mind b/c le kept telling her things…….jmo

Alex,exactly,she said also the le told her she was 90% on but 10% off,so that means she didn’t fail miserably,I think she lied to protect ron! jmo

Goodnight all, I have 4am shift with mom tomorrow!

gnite Alex!!!!!

I just don’t buy it,If my daughter went missing,you can betcha that out of all the suspects even if theres 200 of them I will be the one who tells the honest Gods truth to help find her and if I don’t then the public can say I was not cooperating for a reason,now how can anybody say different,
I believed in ron at first,i really did,defended him tooth and nail but when he does nothing but protect the last one who had Haleigh? theres a reason for it!

Why is it so hard to believe after all the docs,videos,and what we have seen and heard,drugs,sex offenders,domestic violence,non support,you name it,lies to no end and this is above ronald,lol how???????

we don’t know this much about sex offenders and are ready to hang em on sight,how is ron different?

right,imo Mary,what happened was he came in,turned the light on,he knew her habits,how she slept sound or not and all that,I think she maybe woke up by his presence in the room or maybe on his way out something woke her up b/c even in the voiceA tape He says to Misty,”i can see theres something you’re not telling me”,he never said she flat out lied,and again he said why do i detect doubt when i asked you if ron would harm Haleigh I can see you’re not truthful,its b/c she knew he’d abused her no doubt before!

oh,so women have Adams apples,lmao!

mARY,i CAN’T WAIT TO GET RONALDS RESULTS!

gmta cHAKRA,JUST SAID A BIT AGO,IMO THEY’RE THE ONLY 2 WHO KNOWS WHAT HAPPENED!

CJ & Chakra

But if Ron came in while Misty was asleep. Why would he take or hurt Haleigh? that part I just don’t get.

maryd- maybe she was out , not asleep ??

Mary,imo only……ron is obsessed with Misty,he even told Cobra he loved her and no half hour f$%# meant nothing?
He promised Misty the babysitting would get easier,he was in danger of losing custody…imo for truancy and ron is the type who’d never ever be the parent who lost custody?
He’s always saying he’s the best parent…….ya know!
and imo he knew too that Jr. would not be taken because hewasn’t a good daddy,but b/c Haleigh went missing,he is one psychotic dude,i’d bank on it,even AS said he couldn’t bond or get close to anybody!
he even told Cobra jr would be with his daddy till he died or they’d both go just like that?? the gator thing?

Misty Cummings
Cummings and the two children were living together when he met Croslin in 2008.

Sykes’ first impression of the petite teen came from the children.

“The kids adored her and she seemed to adore them back,” Sykes said. “I mean they’d cry to go back to her.”

Sykes said she saw another side of her grandson’s girlfriend in the months after Haleigh vanished, when Cummings, Croslin and Ronald Jr. moved in with her.

“You can’t threaten her or do anything to her emotionally or mentally that will affect her,” Sykes said. “She doesn’t have the ability.”
Sykes said even repeated interrogations by investigators had little impact.

“When the sheriff’s department was threatening her and doing all their doings and stuff, it didn’t faze her,” she said.

Sykes said Croslin’s childhood may have dulled her emotionally.

“She basically was here, there and yonder,” Sykes said. “I don’t reckon she knew from one day to the next where she was going to be.”

Croslin was born in Michigan, but the family of five moved to where her father, Hank Croslin Sr., could find drywall work, her parents said. They spent time in Tennessee, her mother’s home state, and Colorado before moving to Florida.

When their daughter was in the sixth grade, they were living in Flagler County.

“I’d send her to the bus stop,” her mother, Lisa Croslin, said. “She’d never get on the bus. If it was a day she wanted to go, she’d go. If it was a day she didn’t want to go, she would hide.”

“She can’t read,” her father said. “She was behind in class just like all of us.”

Reading disabilities run in the family, he said.

“I can’t read at all,” he said.

At about 15, Misty bought a bus ticket under a false name and moved to New Jersey with a boyfriend. After several months and with the help of a social worker, she was found and brought home.

About that time, the Croslins moved to Putnam.

Her father said she began hanging out with Kristina “Nay Nay” Prevatt and Amber Brooks, who is the mother of Cummings’ other son.

Both Prevatt and Brooks have drug arrest histories. The weekend before Haleigh disappeared, Misty was with Prevatt. “That’s where all the trouble started, hanging around Nay Nay and Amber,” her father said.

He said he couldn’t convince her to distance herself from the new crowd. Misty was more trouble than the Croslins’ two sons, he said.
“She was the wildest one,” he said. “She was.”

On Feb. 9, the night after Croslin returned to Cummings’ mobile home from the weekend of partying, Sykes dropped by. She said she was upset that Croslin had gone off and left her grandson without anyone to watch over the two kids.

“I was mad because Ronald let her come back,” she said. “But it’s his house. There wasn’t nothing I could do about it other than be mad.”

By the next morning, Haleigh was gone.

yes Cate,he does but he was Haleighs daddy!! jmo he should have protected her! Misty was just a g/f at the time,ya know?

CathyJo, I wonder if Ron deliberately killed HaLeigh because Marie suspected that she was being sexually abused. No comment on who was abusing her but you outlined perfectly what I think Ron’s reaction would be to that threat. “I love her but I’ll kill her before being accused of that, or allowing that.”

Jr. being with his daddy ’til he died, that was in reference to his Jr. tatoo, right?

OK, one more post……Misty tried to get TN to keep the kids that night. Her and Ron had gotten into an altercation, he beat her azz, before she left on her binge and she had returned the key to the MH. Misty wasn’t over the fight that her and Ron had, she left that night. Left the kids and went out. She doesn’t want to admit this to anyone, LE included, afraid she’ll be charged. Ron snuck out with TN’s help and all hell broke loose when he got there and no Misty. He’s not telling her and she thinks she’s not telling him. TN knows and protects him. Hence, the non-emergency call to the cops near Tommy’s, they were probably just hanging out and got loud @ 2am. The cop responded to the disturbance and everyone split. Misty went back to the mh, screeching and loud vehicle at the residence, and HaLeigh was gone…….She thinks she’s keeping something from Ron but, actually he’s keeping something from her. She can’t pass a polygraph or any other kind of test for that matter. And all the while, Ron’s in the clear because there’s no way in hell that his mother is going to talk. After all, the kids should’ve been with her that night.
It may be fuzzy, it’s late, but that’s where my mind is going on HaLeigh’s disappearance.
All only how I’m believing things transpired. Ron was out of control and his daughter was probably still awake when he strolled in and flipped out.
I also feel that he, custodian of the kids, probably drugged them often. How else can you explain JR sleeping so much? Really weird behavior for a young boy/child……
IMO

Bingo Cate!!!!!!

dunno why but also something that bothers me is that Ron said he went to pick Haleigh up that day and she rode home in his lap?
something about that aggravates me,seems simple but I wonder,did someone see her in his lap?
I hate to even think it but Haleigh was now old enough to tell things and it ain’t no secret that he likes young girls!
Why did Misty wash the blankets? Do we even know she didn’t find out something when she came home from her wild weekend?

right Cate,I understand exactly what you’re saying and i guess i just realize Misty was a kid herself,Ron was older!

Stilllucy, Jr sleeping so much? Haven’t heard about this, he slept/sleeps more than a typical boy his age?

Friday, April 16, 2010
Criminal Profiling Topic of the Day: Ronald Cummings, the Mastermind
Finally, Ronald’s involvement in Haleigh Cummings death becomes clear and we have Misty, Tommy, and the cinder blocks in the river to thank for it.

Here is why:

Misty and Tommy both know that Haleigh was tied to a cinder block and tossed in the river. The fact the cinder blocks undoubtedly came from Cummings yard means the crime went down in his house and nowhere else. The claim that Misty’s cousin, Joe Overstreet, kidnapped Haleigh from the house because he wasn’t able to steal Ronald’s gun is a lie because no one is going to drive away with a child, kill her, and then return to the house the child was kidnapped from to borrow a cinder block to sink her in the river with.

So, the death of Haleigh occurred in Ronald Cumming’s house.

The idea that another cinder block was used to prop the door open to facilitate carrying out a dead child is also preposterous. Many a parent has carried a sleeping child in or out of their house without needing to use a doorstop to keep the entryway open. And considering there were two (yes, two – Misty and Tommy), I am sure one (Misty) could hold the door open for her brother.

So, when was the cinder block placed on the ramp to hold the door open? As Nancy Grace would say, BOMBSHELL TONIGHT! Ronald Cummings most likely placed it there AFTER he arrived home. Why was it placed there? To stage a stranger abduction.

So what exactly happened that evening? Here is my theory.

Something happened to Haleigh just before or in the early evening after Ronald went to work. The most likely possibility is Haleigh ingested Ronald’s drugs and sometime just before 8:30 PM, Haleigh died. I believe she convulsed and vomited on her blanket before she died.

At 8:30 PM, it is reported Ronnie and Misty had an argument. He stepped outside of his work building to handle the call. Then Misty turned her phone off resulting in Ronald calling her phone repeatedly from then on. Then, supposedly he called Tommy in desperation to go check on her and Tommy drives over, knocks on the door, but Misty doesn’t answer.

What is wrong with this picture? Ronald has a bitter argument with the woman watching his children, he can’t get through to her, he gets so worried that he calls her brother to go check on her and the kids, the brother finds the house dark, and Ronnie STAYS AT WORK until 3 AM and then stops at a convenience store on the way home to buy beer, snacks, and cigarettes.

Rubbish! Here is a far most logical scenario. The heated discussion between Ronald and Misty at 8:30 was Misty telling him Haleigh is dead. He is cussing and freaking out, trying to figure out what to do. He doesn’t want to call the police because HIS drugs probably killed Haleigh. He comes up with a plan.

“We have to get rid of Haleigh’s body. We need to be sure it can’t be found and analyzed for drugs. We will dump her in the river with a heavy brick and then the alligators will take care of her. You get that blanket in the wash because we don’t want to explain the vomit and we can’t have that vomit analyzed for drugs. Turn off your phone. I can’t have you talking to anybody until I get there. I will call your brother and he is going to help you get rid of the body. ”

So, he calls Tommy who goes over and takes Haleigh’s body and dumps it in the river.

Ronald finishes his shift so he keeps his alibi solid, stops at the convenience store so he can be seen on camera with the time recorded. He arrives at the house twenty-five minutes later. One glaring error made was Misty saying she got up at 3 AM and finding Haleigh gone and the door propped open, she is neither scared enough nor concerned enough about getting a search started to call 911 or even Ronald. But, of course, Ronald doesn’t want her to talk to 911 until he is in the room and makes sure she has the story straight.

Ronald comes in the house, gets a cinder block, props the door open. He tells Misty to make the phone call to 911 and while she does, he can scan the room to make sure nothing is out of place that could get them in trouble.

Misty gives 911 the scenario Ronald coached her on and Ronald spends his time acting upset and stressing he was at work and just arrived home and that his bitch of a girlfriend “got his daughter stole”.

Neither Misty or Ronald ever search for Haleigh, or tell the operator or the police that they think a child sex predator got her or that some creep they know might have kidnapped Haleigh. I guess they didn’t think that far ahead.

Ronald Cummings is a controlling, lying psychopath who knows exactly what happened to his daughter. I hope the police figure this out.

Note: This scenario is a hypothesis based only on information publicly obtained with no access to police files. The words in quotes are a theoretical conversation. My opinion does not imply Ronald Cummings is criminal guilty of crimes associated with the Haleigh Cummings case as only a court can convict him of this. This scenario also does not attempt to address every possible suspect and every piece of evidence as this is not a full analysis of the case.

CathyJo63 said,
in June 11th, 2010 at 11:36 pm

oh,so women have Adams apples,lmao!
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Funny… that is part of a project of mines…. Adams’ Apple… since you have mentioned those two words… I shall keep the title!

ah,LoL Adam’s Neat!!!!!!

I recognize that post as Pat Brown’s analysis of the situation. ITA, except that, I hesitate to say it, but I still haven’t ruled out the maternal family putting her in hiding. I don’t think TH is the nut job that so many think he is; if it wasn’t J/M S at the helm, then it was Ronald. For me, there are only two possibilities. PCSO is either dirty, or on to Ron.

But wait, an unanswered question, how DID RC get all those drug charges dropped? TN did not work for the jurisdiction in which he was charged, so what leverage did he have?

imo thats how all the mistakes were made! in the beginning!

Sunday, May 09, 2010
Ronald Cummings to Be Arrested
I am as sick of “Bombshell Tonite!” language as anyone. Although this word is used nightly, I think one is actually going to fall, and I think it is going to fall soon and weigh in with a prediction:

Will this be the bombshell that explodes before the drug trafficking sentencing of Misty Croslin, Ronald Cummings, and Tommy Croslin?

I think so. We can thank prosecutors and a judge who put Hope Sykes behind bars for 15 years for bringing this to a conclusion.

Let’s take another look at Ronald Cummings; beginning with what we do know, based upon Statement Analysis, or by profiling, and/or by news reports that have not been disproved, and in some cases, have gone unchallenged. We seek to put some pieces of a puzzle together.

The pieces of the puzzle are beginning to come together. The sentencing of Hope Sykes is the key.

1. Ronald Cummings is a druggie. We have the video evidence which showed what we have all known since the beginning when Geraldo was unable to interview the zombies in Satsuma due to drug addiction. No surprise here. What does surprise me, however, is the willingness of those, including Nancy Grace, to ignore the ‘not difficult to do’ profiling of an addict.

When I saw Ronald Cummings appear in court, I almost did not recognize him. His weight gain was stunning. Weight gain on jail food? Tommy, on video, said that his own weight gain in jail was due to being off drugs.

If Ronald was using narcotics (opiates) we know that long term usage creates tolerance; where the body needs more to have the same analgesic impact. Higher dosage means reduced testosterone (lower sex drive, weight gain). Lower testosterone leads to weight gain, especially for a man in his stomach. With lower testosterone, Ronald did not gain weight until jail time. The opiate abuse was so acute that he wasn’t eating.

Have you ever had an opiate? Likely when you went to the dentist. When you took it, it wiped you out, and you were high, dizzy, and sleepy. About the last thing you would feel (if you did not use long term) was energy.

Not so for the addict.

With long term opiate abuse, the body relies so heavily upon the opiate that without it, there is no energy. When someone who has used as much as Ronald Cummings has takes his opiates, he has energy. He feels good. In 4-6 hours, the effects quickly dissipate, and withdrawal begins. This is a very dangerous time for children of addicts. While high, the heroin mommy is cooking, cleaning, and affectionate. When she comes down, the monster of irritability begins to show. She sneezes, is sleepy, achy, and the cravings begin.

Ronald gained weigh on jail food because his drug habit was long term and acute.

Teresa Nieves said that he only sold “to get close to Misty to find out what happened to Haleigh”. This is the lie, not of a mother in denial, but of an addict.

Teresa is also an addict who did not raise Ronald due to her addiction. She was cleaned up for the Nancy Grace show, but she is an addict and I believe she knows more about the killing of her grandchild than she has let on. More about this later. Ronald is an acute addict; long term, and it appears that he got the job he did in order to satisfy DCF to keep his two children. When DCF investigated (repeatedly) they sought a family member to take the children and could not find anyone who could pass a drug test, for had they, they would have placed the children with them. They could not. Ron did the bare minimum to get them off his back.

Ever hear of a celebration test?

It’s when the parent knows a drug test is coming, cleans up (buprenorphine) for a few days, and then flushes for days on end. When the test is passed, they go out and celebrate.

The morning after the passed test is always a great time to re-test.

2. Ronald is a violent man.

“How you let my daughter, get stole, bitch?” is the language of domestic violence. Haleigh’s biological mother was terrified of him, as, it appears, was Tommy (a beheaded rat would scare anyone), Ron’s other ex, and likely Teresa, his mother. Ronald has rage built up inside of him for the many years of abuse and neglect he suffered before being removed from his mother. We have a violent, drugged embittered man on our hands.

3. With drug sales comes bad people. The moment someone takes a prescription and sells a single pill, they have put their children in jeopardy. Addicts want more. Addicts don’t ask for receipts. Addicts want more. Addicts may want a refund. Now, the children are at risk for the violent drug users who come in and out of the home to buy pills. I’m willing to bet that Teresa has sold her share, as has Hank Sr. Grammie Hollars (she appeared under the influence on the Nancy Grace show, even as the “experts” were praising her “courage. Ronald needed guns, why?

4. Nay Nay, close to the family, described Ronald as backhanding, and beating the shit out of junior. Nay Nay may have zero credibility but I’ve met many fathers who beat their kids and Ronald walks, talks, acts, and smirks like them all. Crystal reported it as well. DCF was involved for a reason and had to draw up a contract which Ronald agreed to “only” hit on the behind. There is a reason why DCF needed him to put this in writing: so that it could be showed to a judge on the next DCF investigation where they attempt to save the children from this monster. Too late.

5. 911 Call.

We have already seen that the 911 call is deceptive. (see previous analysis)

Why would Misty need to be deceptive to report a missing child? This is obvious: because Misty is involved. No question.

But why did Misty wait until Ron got home to make that call?

If you read the transcripts, it appears that Ronald coached her with her story.

Even though Ronald knew Misty was drugging for days and couldn’t watch the kids adequately, (he tried to get Teresa to watch them but she refused….Misty said she even offered money to Teresa but she wouldn’t watch them even though she knew the impact of drugs…want to interpret those tears on the Nancy Grace show with Teresa in her makeover?) they had a fight at 8:30PM and Ronald called her more than 20 times, and said he sent Tommy over to check on them, Ronald STILL had the wherewithal to stop off at the local Stop and Rob to pick up some beer and peanuts. Now that’s a caring father!

Then we have the cinder blocks.

Have you ever carried a sleeping 5 year old? How about a very tiny sleeping 5 year old? You don’t need to use a heavy cinder block to open the door.

Misty mentioned the cinder block in her account (see analysis) because that is exactly what she was picturing in her mind as she spoke:

Haleigh’s long curly hair as she is tied to a cinder block and carried out the door, to be thrown into the river.

Ronald knew all along. I think Ronald Cummings put the cinder block in the door to stage a kidnapping? (a “stole”)

You don’t think so?

1. He coached her on the 911 call. She needed coaching, why?? Look at Misty being interviewed elsewhere, as she looks to Ronald as to what to answer. Look at the analysis again: WHY is a question such as “how tall is she?” sensitive? Why would Misty need to stall to answer, cover the phone up, and then NOT answer the question directly? Review the Statement Analysis of the entire call. We have already established that the call is bogus by its order:

I just woke up
The door was open
and oh, by the way, “our” daughter is gone. Did she say “our” because she was coached? Or, is it the language of step parenting? Misty had only known Haleigh a few months up until then.

2 So, his daughter “gets stole” and he tells the 911 operator that he is going to kill whoever did this. He is one angry dad. Police tell him early on that Misty is involved. As soon as a State or Fed analyst gets on board, everyone, including Ronald and Misty, are told the 911 call is a ruse.

Ronald takes this information and what does he do?

He marries Misty.

Tim Miller allows a zealous worker to get close to Misty, in order to get info.

What does Ronald do?

He tells Misty.

After the marriage shock that showed his true colors dies down, talking heads begin to say, “well, this won’t help Ronald as the crime took place BEFORE they married, so marital privilege does not apply.”

Uh oh.

So, Ronald divorces her. You know, the same Misty he said he would put a shotgun to the back of her head and blow her teeth out? Even his ability to think of that shows what he is capable of doing.

Whenever Ronald is interviewed about his “missing” daughter, what is the first, or one of the first things he says?

“I was at work.”

“I just got home”

Over and over, he lays out the emphasis.

What does this tell us?

He was at home.

This offering of information, when not prompted, is critical. By Ronald offering that he was not at home, he is telling us that he was at home during a critical part of this homicide.

Misty, Tommy, and Ronald have all lied. (so has Teresa Nieves).

Ronald was a violent and neglectful father, entrusting the kids to a teenage druggie. He could have cared less. He was the same parent that his mother was to him. The circle continues.

Poor Haleigh.

I think she ingested oxy and this whole scenario was concocted by Ronald and Misty and they made Tommy get involved with disposing the body because he was implicated in something; perhaps he was molesting Haleigh; perhaps Misty traded Haleigh for drugs or money;

but they had something serious enough on Tommy to keep him silent, and when Ronald thought he was cracking, he sent over the beheaded rat as a warning.

Ronald is a scary, violent person, and Tommy knows it well.

But now Hope has gotten a HUGE sentence. Tommy doesn’t want to go that long and Ronald is behind bars and can’t scare Tommy.

Tommy flunked the poly and his lawyer get law enforcement involved.

Whatever they had on Tommy, was powerful enough to get him to help Misty unload the body, which is why Ronald kept calling her in a panic.

Whether Misty gave Haliegh a broken off piece of pill, or she found it, the dirt was so bad that they could not point the finger at each other (Ronald and Misty) without nailing the other; so they worked together. They have something bad enough on Tommy to nail him.

With another scenario where Ron wasn’t directly involved, but then became part of the coverup: What would be so terrible that Misty has over Ronald, to get him to help her make the 911 call and the cover up?

I don’t know, but we do have a hint.

Was Ronald molesting his daughter?

Who knows how screwed up his brain is on drugs?
Ronald has a very high likelihood of being molested as a child; due to the drug world he grew up in and was eventually taken from his mother’s custody but NOT the family.

Ronald, on national TV, said he is attracted to young girls. This is an embarrassing and humiliating thing for him to say. Since druggies are liars AND since human nature naturally minimizes is there something about Ronald sexually that is disturbing?

We have the reference by Misty to laundry and washing; verbal indications of sexual abuse in the home.

We know that even non drug users minimize their own behavior. It is like the woman who slaps her child in the face at Walmart. WHAT DO YOU THINK she does to the child at home, when no one is looking??

If Ronald was willing to admit, in general terms, his attraction to young girls, this would indicate that he may prefer them even younger than he said. This would indicate a stunted emotional growth in him, often found in abusers.

True pedophilia is an attraction to prepubescents. I do not know if this is Ronald. I am seeking to know, if he wasn’t involved in her death, what Misty may have over him that caused him to be part of the coverup. Although I am not saying Ronald is a pedophile, I am saying, in certainty, that sexual abuse of Haleigh Cummings needs to be explored and this begins with the adults who had the closest contact with her.

Ronald, Misty, and Tommy, however, are all united in their desire to blame one person (who Ronald has, apparently, allowed to live, inspite of his threats):

Joe Overstreet may be a creepy thing with a history, but he didn’t do it.

I think that BEFORE Ronald, Misty and Tommy are sentenced for the drug trafficking,

WE WILL HAVE AN ARREST.

I think Misty will be arrested, to no one’s surprise, but to many, the surprise arrest will be Ronald.

I think Tommy cuts a deal to implicate them and gets a reduced sentence.

I think we will see this “bombshell” on the news:

Ronald Cummings and Misty Croslin to be arrested for the homicide of Haleigh Cummings.

hm dunno cate,lol

the amber alert was wrong,they didn’t take the doors for 2 weeks,drug the mattress outside,contaminating the evidence!! too many mistakes in the beginning!

‘Somebody came in my back door, broke into my home and stole my daughter,’ he said.

Detective John Merchant of the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office said no stone would be left unturned.

‘All the world is a suspect,’ he said.
‘We are going to treat everybody, every family member, every associate, like a suspect until we eliminate them.’

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1143865/Girl-5-snatched-Florida-home-chilling-new-McCann-case.html#ixzz0qcEPmBta

CathyJo
who’s Jm ?

riteeeeeee!!!

my birthday?? Jan.1-63!

he’s the only one ron trusts!

right or he didn’t care!!!!

imo,they didn’t know it would get this huge?????

Merchant was the only one Ron trusted?

cause theres a monkey in the woodpile somewhere?

ah,yours is too??? cool!!!!! lol

You read TH writeintoaction as bad as you hate to admit it? I think Art Harris is worse, WAY worse— although, I do need to go check now, realizing that I haven’t checked AH for a day or so, LOL!

nite.

Just got up and read last nights blogs. Looks,
like folks are still looking at the Ron and Misty theory. Ron is the only one Misty would cover for. She threw Tommy under the bus from the get go. She is not protecting him. She is afraid to tell on someone. I think she is truly
afraid of her partner in crime. My ex use to even threaten to kill my folks if I left him.
He slug guns around like Ron did and appeared to love his children in photographs.

Ron and Teresa had a big plot for him to leave work and catch Misty doing something. His Momma picked him up outside the security fence.
Him and Misty had a spat and Haleigh got in the
middle. Out of angry he hurt that baby.

The Croslin’s are dumber than dirt. They do not
seem to be violent people just poor. Ron is violent. I don’t care if he has never been found guilty. Neither was my ex I kept dropping
charges because I was afraid not to. I have a
feeling we are about to see all this unfold.

Putnam county has to get it right.

hi stilllucy..I sure hope he didn’t molest that kid. I have even been thinking that could have been why Misty left! I tell you my heart asks more for that baby the more I see and find out.

The way that Ron handled TM/TES and Padilla makes no sense at all. It was as if anyone that could bring attention to HaLeigh’s disappearance or help find her were led down wrong paths or their offer of assistance was refused. Nothing seemed right from the beginning. Creeped me out from the very start.
And ofcourse, there you have Geraldo. He went after the lifestyle of Ron and got chased out of town. I think he was getting a little too close to exposing the facts about Ron and they didn’t want that info out. This case exploded in the media and has been watched closely by many since the beginning. The people involved didn’t plan on that. IMO

Lucy Ron is crazy. His demeanor the day they
were taken to Putnam and told to prepare for a funeral. He just pranced out of there with that
angry look of his face.

Could you actually go to bed with someone that could have had something to do with you kids disappearence? If he can he is still sick and needs to be locked up?

Nancy Grace is the may reason the general public has not looked closer at Ron. That is
exactly why Ron would not sever ties with Misty. He had to keep her under his thumb so she wouldn’t talk. Who knows Misty might have
talked to Donna Brock. Why is none of her calls
out to the GP. The reason was suppose to be a technology issue in Putnam for not releasing audio and video. Donna has been over in St Johns or Flager so technology is not the issue in those cash rich counties.

Lucy Ok I get that. I think he is fine as long as everything is going the way he wants it to.
I don’t think anyone got up that morning and said let’s kill Haleigh. SOmething went wrong that night and I think it is anger related.
I just don’t get the plea deal think unless he
is throwing one of the Croslins under the bus.
Do you have any thoughts on that?

Lucy they try to blame everything on the transiet communities. There has only been one case of that lately and they found the kid alive here. Florida is beautiful and it’s like
a paradise most of the time. It’s just crazy.

I think the drug issue comes in from folks had to move out to rural areas when the
cost of housing was through the roof here.
You can have a drug habit and pay rent.

I just don’t get the pill thing and crushing
and sniffing them is far beyond anything I can
imagine.

I don’t get the Donna Brock thing. Misty just had no where else to turn at that point. FLo Hollars or Donna Brock. I don’t think Misty had sold drugs before Ron. Misty would not have had many friends she had not gone to school in Putnam. Yep the Croslins sure was drug through the mud. Well, they have declared
their innocence so we will see.

Lucy, another thing the Croslin’s are transplants to NE Florida. Ron and his mother are 3rd or 4th generation River Rats. Those are folks that have made a living and lived along the St John River. bridge repairs, shipping, crawfish, fishing, bait shops etc.etc. They would know far better how to get rid of a body than the Croslins. I can assure that the last place Ron or his Mom would have taken a body to is the local boat ramp.

The local boat ramp, I agree. They would know better but maybe not the Croslin’s. What’s so weird about that search is the fact that TN & AS went down there prior to LE to do their own search. What in the world were 2 Grannys doing interferring in that? What were they looking for and why didn’t they just go to LE with the info that Granny Hollars had given AS? Makes absolutely no good sense……… IMO

Yes, I thought that strange as well. Teresa was a Dispatcher she knows that ain’t cool.

Teresa, diverts the attention away from Ron.

Lucy, I think I will go sit on the porch and have a cup of coffee. Time for Saturday morning bike races along the river. See Florida ain’t all that bad. Catch you guys later. We need to kick Cathyjo and get her up.
Have a great day!!

Nice chat, thanks. Have a great day, 2!

texasmommy–I think you are right. I do have a question. Police searched the St. John’s River on February 11, 2009 (gainesville.com):
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Divers check the St. Johns River following initial signs of Haleigh’s scent picked up by canine search dogs.
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If Haleigh was dumped there, tied with ropes weighed down with cinder blocks, do you not think they would have found some signs of that beautiful child that day? Yet they launch an expensive search over a year later, and got the same results. I am at a loss and I think it is high time someone comes in a takes a fresh peak at this case, before it gets any worse. LE has wasted valuable time and resources focusing on the Croslins/Cummings. If there is never a resolution to this case I will blame LE because it is their JOB to chase any avenue and look at all possible suspects, be it family or foe. Speculation has ran rampant in this case (who can you blame when LE created this RUMORMILL) and lives have been destroyed before AN ARREST OR CONVICTION. Yes, they are guilty of drug abuse/trafficking (that drug sting was suspect and so coincidental to be anything but obvious). But murder? I do not think so (just my opinion) because LE cannot tie the evidence (if there is indeed any evidence) to point to who is responsible, where the crime scene was, and when did it happen, not to mention where the body is/was disposed of. JMO

Morning TM39, Robin and Lucy! I haven’t had coffee yet, TM39, and now that you mention it, I need to go get some. So hot here today, maybe I’ll just ice the leftover from yesterday.

Robin, so what do you think happened? What is your favorite story?

Robin, I so much agree with you! (It wasn’t a question.)

robin, IMO LE has not botched it…yet. They have not shown their hand since calling off all the searches within the first week after HaLeigh’s abduction. The circus was first created by the Sheffields and once media got into the mix it became a three ring circus.

For some reason we have only witnessd and heard of a few searches conducted by LE since that first week.
1. The Griffis farm and other family members property in Baker Co. June 25,2009
2. The Mondex pond. Sept 18-19,2009
3. St. Johns River search at Shell Harbor.
April 13-15,2010
IMO each of these searches have cost a pretty tax payers penny and have shown the public no results. This last search, LE finally feel comfortable calling this investigation a Homicide, but, have dispelled rumors that they found HaLeigh or her remains. I honestly can not figure out how LE can call this case a homicide without a body. I have to ask what evidence could their be that would be connected to HaLeigh that has been under water or exposed to the elements for over a year if it is not a body? As far as we know HaLeigh left the mobile home without her nightshirt.
Would a pair of panties be all that she was wearing?
IMO no body, but, year old evidence all of a sudden appearing at the end of a public boat dock is just a little to fishy.
IMO evidence can say alot, but, it is the interpertation that usually convicts.
IMO and from what I understand coming out of PCSO, LE’s suspect has not even been mentioned or named by and from what I understnd is not behind bars as we speak.

TM39, Thanks for listing the dates of those three major searches. I’ve been meaning to do that. ITA, it makes no sense to call this a homicide without physical evidence and they most certainly better not be basing this on Misty and Tommy’s statements! I hadn’t heard that part about how LE’s suspect is not currently in jail. Are we supposed to believe that ridiculous JO story?

My imagination seems to think they did find her, but, more likely on the 3rd. I wonder if that is why Crystal has not signed in to her MYspace since the 3rd.

tm39, I think that is a distinct possibility, that they did find her. Didn’t know that about Crystal’s MySpace. How about Marie? I’m off to check.

I got the feeling that Hardy was contemplating changing the status of the case on Tuesday morning which would seem to be before they would have found anything in the river.

I certainly hope that LE was not so negligent to change the status of the case based on TC’s story. Since reading the presser that Werter gave, which gave the time line leading up to the search, I have not had a good feeling about just what LE has as far as physical evidence.

texasmommy, by changing the classification from missing to homicide, the case no longer qualified under the Amber Alert requirements.

WHYLIE I agree with you, that was my impression to. I found that calling in the family that day at 1 pm even more telling.

Seems like the families would be complaining, doesn’t it, about the change in status to homicide and cancellation of the Amber Alert? They say they still believe that she is alive so don’t they want people to still be searching and aware? Or are they just taking some time in coming to terms with her death?

HaLeigh is still listed as a missing person with the FBI. Anyone know why that would be, WhyLie, perhaps, if she has been declared dead?

Whether any of them did it or not, it appears that all have something to hide and they are so busy in a cover-up that may have nothing to do with Haleigh’s disappearance that they have no time for coming to terms with what happened toHaleigh!

Sh must be reading here LOL, because I checked before I stated.

Alex, so the Sheffields and Griffis are busy covering-up something that doesn’t have to do with HaLeigh’s disappearance? Do tell!

COOP said,in June 12th, 2010 at 6:41 am Lucy Ron is crazy. His demeanor the day they
were taken to Putnam and told to prepare for a funeral. He just pranced out of there with that
angry look of his face.

Could you actually go to bed with someone that could have had something to do with you kids disappearence? If he can he is still sick and needs to be locked up?
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Exactly,and the Croslins were just easy to blame it on,

COOP said,in June 12th, 2010 at 6:46 am Nancy Grace is the may reason the general public has not looked closer at Ron. That is
exactly why Ron would not sever ties with Misty. He had to keep her under his thumb so she wouldn’t talk. Who knows Misty might have
talked to Donna Brock. Why is none of her calls
out to the GP. The reason was suppose to be a technology issue in Putnam for not releasing audio and video. Donna has been over in St Johns or Flager so technology is not the issue in those cash rich counties.
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Exactly how i feel and have all along,just didn’t know how to put it,you did it perfect,100% agreed,N/g was even getting hom a lawyer,wasn’t she??????????

Jen,the reason this one and caseys is b/c they drew NATIONAL attention? Ron sisn’t even bargain for that??? imo
There are tons of family stuff on other cases its just we never heard of em but if you look on David Laurs site,or the states that allow it theres tons of cases with the family dirty laundry put out there!

Cate (aka Kate) said,in June 12th, 2010 at 12:47 pm tm39, although didn’t’t LE explain that they called in the family so it would’t be a repeat of draining the pond at the Mondex, because the families were upset that they weren’t informed?
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Yea, I have thought about the come together meeting and have to say with the two families that have been going at it for over a year, it seems a little insensitive to have them all together in one room to hear such devastating news and no “proof” of who did do it or even a body.
I have to wonder why the secrecy of the topic discussed by SH to these families. The public sat back and watched the river search and witnessed Mist’s appearance at the docks. We where told by SKB what LE chose not too. The public witnesses coverage of LE meeting with Jo in Tenn. and his attorneys press release. Seems a little weird for the private conversation and then the media campaign directed by LE.

JenM–My thoughts exactly!

Alexandria Loring said,in June 12th, 2010 at 12:51 pm Whether any of them did it or not, it appears that all have something to hide and they are so busy in a cover-up that may have nothing to do with Haleigh’s disappearance that they have no time for coming to terms with what happened toHaleigh!
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Good Afternnon to you too,lol
and its almost like they all had a part in it,each one so they couldn’t rat out another,its sure confusing!
Honestly,to me it seems everyone who knew Haleigh is lying! EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!

I’d betcha cs and mg and alot of em read here!lol

Oh Sorry Lucy,Good afternoon to you too,lol I can’t see!!!!!!

I think the biggest difference between the CA case and Haleigh’s case is that there was actual physical evidence of a deceased child. There was no report of a missing child for a month, evidence in the car of decomposition, computer searches consistent with killing, etc.

I know if it were my child/grandchild I would definitely be demanding some form of actual physical evidence that my child was indeed killed.

exactly whylie,but instead they stay hidden?

CJ I think that was the harassing phone call report if I remember correctly. From the looks of it, it appears that Timmy left some kind of “not so nice” messages on their answering machine.

“Waving ” at Crystal!!! 😉 Giving finger to MG.

I really think it will take some therapy to get anything out of Misty. I think she may or may not be blocking that information (Dissociative Disorder with Amnesia). I hope they are giving her meds to help her.

If she knows more or doesn’t know more, it is sad what has happened to her. I don’t think she is purposely hiding anything.

For some reason, I really am stuck on the Tommy or Sheffields as the culprits. To me, they both had prime opportunities and it wouldn’t take a lot of twisting of information to make up the scenario.

texasmommy39 said,
in June 12th, 2010 at 1:25 pm

“Waving ” at Crystal!!! 😉 Giving finger to MG.
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

DITTO!

Cate – I still think Ron is the one responsible for Haleigh’s disappearance either by comission or omission!
But I think that all 3 sides have things that they would rather LE not know. Therefore some may not be guilty regarding Haleigh but their alibi might get them a stint in prison that they are not looking forward to!
As to the jailhouse tapes I think they have to be requested and paid for before they are released! Another thing to be thankful to Jan & Simon for doing for all of us !

misty has to go to trial and try the entrapment defense, imo.

CathyJo63 said,
in June 12th, 2010 at 12:49 am

btw,did you know JM was removed from the case?
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Merchant is the head of homicide at PCSO, and he did stop working on the case early on as there was no proof HaLeigh was deceased. He is currently back on the case, as it was deemed a homicide.

There is an article on Nancy Grace’s blog about Merchant meeting at the jail with both Ronald & Crystal. He was there to go over options regarding whether to wait 7 years to receive a death certificate, or the parents could petition the court and receive a death certificate without a body. (Hard to hear, but John Merchant is very definitely back working the case again).

**I have a favor to ask of CathyJo, and any one posting articles. When posting articles, could a link please be posted. It makes it easier to reference the articles in the future. Thank you very much. 🙂

Here is a quote from the article I mentioned above:

“According to Merchant he presented two options to parents Ronald Cummings and Crystal Sheffield about a funeral for Haleigh: The couple could wait seven years for Haleigh to be declared dead by the state of Florida and then be issued a death certificate or they can go before a judge before the seven years lapses to request a death certificate.”

http://nancygrace.blogs.cnn.com/2010/04/21/haleighs-family-told-to-make-funeral-arrangements-did-cops-find-a-body/

LMAO rolling….on Floor.

Now I feel bad… LOL

They’ll prolly try to scrape my crack off the monitor.rofl jmo

Really prime for Tommy though. He was there. He was f’d up. The back door was set up just like he sets them up when he robs places, etc.

If I had to take a shot at this, I would say that Tommy will be arrested for the crime of kidnapping Haliegh from the MH, (perhaps after taking advantage of Misty) and then taking her in the Van to the river.

To me, it seems he has told us the story already of what happened. Remember, I always say, “THE TRUTH IS IN THE LIE”.

1. Tommy says “I went to the MH that night at 10:00”. “I knocked loudly on the doors” (here he tells us exactly what he did) He says that no one was there. I think what he meant is that no one woke up when he was making all that noise opening that back door! Or could of been that Misty let him in the MH when he was knocking and now she feels guilty about that.

2. He tells us that Joe told him a story about alligators in those waters and it would be a perfect way to get rid of a body. I think he tells us here, exactly what he did. He even sends LE down to the river, just to make sure that there is no evidence left there.

I think in Tommy’s mind he was so f’d up on drugs, he remembers these things, but feels there is No way it could of been him that did it. So, he puts the blame on Joe. It makes him feel better.
He tries to convince us and Lyndsy in the jailhouse tapes that “he knows exactly what he is doing when he is high on drugs”. Now why make a statement like that? Because he knows he didn’t know what he was doing and he can’t really recall.

Tommy, In my opinion, is GUILTY of harming and disposing of Haleigh.

AND I think LE is trying to get from Misty what she has blocked out. They took her to the river to see if they could get a reaction from her, maybe jog her memory/subconscious. they didn’t. Therefore, I think they have ruled out her being at the crime scene of the river.

HOWEVER, I think LE is being careful with her to not make info sink deeper in her mind. I think she witnessed something very traumatic or was traumatized herself. She has extreme guilt. Then top it off with Ron blaming her for all of this. I also think LE is being careful to see who else could of helped Tommy that night or been involved before they go any further.

I do think LE might be convinced from Tommy’s story that Haleigh is dead, but just don’t have all the evidence yet. Hopefully they have dirt samples from the Van to show what area it was taken that night. I think Joe might of been a driver.

I think the story is just like Tommy has told us, only it was Tommy who did it, not Joe. It was Tommy who took Haleigh, then threatened Misty. He maybe made Joe drive, who didn’t know his way through the woods, thus the scratch on the van and the leaves/bushes in the headlights. Joe dropped off Tommy (thus all the dog barking and commotion) and then took the Van to Timmys, etc. Still in his clothes when Timmy checked in on him. Lyndsy is pissed she covered for Tommy being home and has told LE differently and is divorcing Tommy.

To me, the circumstances point one direction and that is Tommy.

Sorry so long, but just thoughts for today.

that just stands out to me??
Why didn’t they just say,the doors open and our daughters gone,but emphasized the BRICK? i don’t believe none of em’ jmo

but they couldn’t giver her bdate??

Worth repeating for the weekend crowd:

Whats the difference between a drug dealer and a prostitute?

A prostitute can wash her crack and re-sell it!

I love that Jokeeeeeeee!
rofl

ok,If 2 female potatoes are standing on the corner,how do ya know which one is the hooker?

Cause it say,”IdaHo”

watch Ron in this video,he even gets angry at N/G for her attitude with Misty!

http://www.truecrimereport.com/amber_alert/

n/g SAYS,HE ISN’T AFRAID OF THE LIGHTS AND DON’T SHY AWAY FROM THE CAMERA,I TAKE IT N/G DIDN’T SEE THE TATTOO VIDEO!

A segment of Nancy Grace’s show addressing new items found in the search for Haleigh Cummings.

A particularly astute reader, “curiosityhasme”, left the following comment on a previous entry about the disappearance of 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings from her North Florida home. I’m posting it merely as food for thought for others. I happen to agree with this person’s conclusions, for the most part. It should be stressed, however, that this is pure opinion on the part of the anonymous commenter as well as me, your friendly neighborhood crime blogger:

Five tip-offs for this arm-chair sleuth:

1. Contradictory statements to begin with. Could be the girl WAS in the same bed to begin with and WET the bed. THEN was put in other bed. Misty talks about her wetting the bed (recently) and she “washed the blanket.” If she is 5 year-old girl with Turner’s syndrome, living in emotionally and physically abusive environment, further explains why still bedwetter.

2. Father hothead and has lengthy criminal history – also domestic violence, reports of child abuse. Known fact that one of the leading causes of death in children are parents who go berserk due to bedwetting, over-discipline and possibly beat to death. Could have physically assaulted, broken limbs, bruises – only recourse was to throw her in the river, and place cinder block at back door to “cover” himself. Also reports that phone calls between two in early morning hours before he returned home, so if truly missing, he wouldn’t have stayed at job ’til finished.

3. His dismay and tears are over what he did, and yes, he wants her back – but not because of abduction that never happened He is remorseful, like many abusers who do it over and over and over. Think sheriff’s dept going along with story to get the goods on Dad and girlfriend.

4. Misty going along with story, but because she is young and not real bright, (like Ronald) they have really given themselves away with talk of bedwetting and now knowledge of truancy – in kindergarten of all things – which is another sign of physical abuse and healing injuries.

5. Child missed so much school that bio Mom said if missed anymore, father could be arrested. Contempt of Court entered against father on Mon 2/9 -hours before child went missing. Father didn’t want to lose son, lose job, nor go to jail.

Father murdered unintentionally, life in prison. Girlfriend accomplice – serving 30+ years in the big house.

There was a press release when Tommy was
helping LE. with what he new in the Haleigh
case, and
the suspect was in Jail.

# 2 would not matter IMO, because Ron was at work and Haleigh was seen after 5pm by two witnesses.

Alex, No he was not. Amber nevr sowed fr the paternity testing.

Alex, No there is no court ordered child support for Amber’s child. As far as I know Amber has not gone for a paternity test that would prove or disprove that Ron is the baby’s daddy.

Cricket, what?

Is Amber working, supporting herself & the child?

The State doesnt give you a choice on paternity. They go after it and if you dont show you are in contempt. Amvber doesnt have the child her grandma does and Ron should have been served a warrent to appear. jmo

Right Tobias,I did!!! ty

Someone asked a few pages back – can someone fail a part of the polygraph and still pass some of it. You know, this is a question for someone like Jamie Skeeters (he was president of the polygraph association), but he’s passed on – fortunately, I asked him that exact question.

He said that it can be set up so that someone flunks certain questions and you know they are going to flunk those questions.

Questions that are sometimes asked are failed intentionally and it’s set up to have it happen like that. They are used as a base line to see what will happen when you get to the questions that you truly want answered.

If you have a series of questions that you know will be answered with a fail before the test begins, you may also have a series of questions you have no idea what will happen. But the obvious fails will give you your needed answers on the remaining questions.

In a sense, let’s say, you have 10 questions, 7 are of no importance and you know they person will make it appear as if they are lying. The remaining three are the REAL questions you need answers for and you need the response of obvious fails to make sure you have the truth on the three important questions.

I’m no expert on this subject, but this is how I remember him explaining it.

Failing a polygraph depends on what the definition of “fail” is. If the goal is to have someone answer each and every question truthfully – that’s one set of standards. If your goal is to have the person answer 3 out of seven truthfully – that’s another sety of standards.

If you have ever watched a polygraph start – you notice at the beginning they ask for your name. That’s to gauge a question they know you will answer honestly and to get a reading to compare other questions to.

In the case of serial liars such as the Croslins, who may be trying to beat the polygraph, you need a little bit better psychological game going into it.

As you may remember, Tommy asked for the polygraph in March, it didn’t happen until April 8th. They had plenty of time to prepare and make sure they would get the info they were after.

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I wonder if this is true?

Alexandria Loring said,in June 12th, 2010 at 2:22 pm Is Amber working, supporting herself & the child?
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Amber is a drug addict ad th grandmother has custody.

CJ, Did you catch the wording on the conviction? ATTEMPTED. Wonder whats happening with ol snodgrass. I am going to go check on it now be back soon. jmo

allz i know is i did read an article that cs found out that very day about the truancy,Haleigh had missed 28 days(which imo i don’t think cs even cared but it was something to look bad on ron)and was going to bring truancy up in court that day???? IDK for certain,but i will look forr it!

PALATKA, Fla. — Ronald Cummings was fired this week after his employer said he has not come to work since his 5-year-old daughter Haleigh disappeared from their Satsuma Home more than two months ago.

Haleigh disappeared in the early-morning hours of Feb. 10 just before Cummings came home from his job at PDM Bridge in Palatka.

PDM Bridge said they held Cummings’ job open for weeks expecting to hear from him requesting a leave of absence or make some other arrangement, but they never did.

Cummings’ lawyer, Greg Kimball, released a statement saying Cummings agreed to return to work on April 6.

“Ronald agreed to this date and was prepared to go into work when he was told on Friday, April 3, 2009, that the offer to return to work was being withdrawn for ‘abandoning his job,'” Kimball said. “Cummings in the last two months has had to deal not only with the disappearance of his daughter Haleigh, but also false muckraking allegations by attorney Kim Picazio, representing Crystal Sheffield.”

Kimball said they are consulting with a Daytona firm that specializes in labor and employment law over possible legal action over his termination.

Kimball also denies that Cummings ever threatened anyone connected with PDM Bridge.

Custody of Haleigh and her younger brother was awarded to Ronald Cummings because he had a steady job and could provide health insurance for the children — something a Putnam County family court judge found Sheffield, their mother, could not.

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Alexandria Loring said,
in June 12th, 2010 at 2:29 pm

Does Ron or any member of his family acknowledge Amber’s child as belonging to Ron?
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They say it “could be” Ronald’s child.

There was never a paternity test. Apparently, Ronald arranged a private test between him and Amber, and Amber didn’t show up at the testing facility. Sounds like she didn’t want the test done, imo.

The state has not gone after Ronald for child support, probably because he is not listed on the birth certificate. If he was, then the state would go after him for any services the child was receiving.

I read in an article that CS did not find about the truancy until the abuse allegations surfaced when she received Haleigh’s school records. Did Crystal ever contact the school BEFORE went missing to guage Haleigh’s progress in school? Did she attend parent-teacher conferences or PTA meetings? It is kind of ironic that Crystal was more interested in Haleigh AFTER her disappearance than she ever was when Haleigh was around.

Funny how Ron lost his way to make a living along with the Croslins. Let u not forget that temporally Cobra did as well.
No one else seemed to be affected by the bad publicity of wrong doings.

tm39- There are many people fired without cause that don’t scare their employer into asking for LE assistance. Even some who are fired with cause and employers don’t ask for assistance and they probably should have.
This speaks volumes to me especially if they had security on site!

ron made the statement,due to Haleigh going missing and the economy,he couldn’t find a job??? Never saw him look either but excuse me he had a J-O-B! Just didn’t go back and they fired him 3 days before he was supposed to return to work which tells me he’s caught? jmo

exactly Robin,I know she didn’t give a crap but to make ron again look bad,she would,so i dunno which story is true!

The camera at PDM had been knocked sideways??
they installed it b/c workers were clocking in for one another!

I would like to know when Crystal is getting a JOB. I don’t think for one minute she has any intention of ever getting gainful employment. I thought the Haleighbug Center was going to be a “career”. I don’t think (my opinion only) that she could pass a drug test. I believe that she abused prescription drugs more than the Croslins/Cummings did, but she never got caught at it or focused on by LE (or it might have very well been the Satsuma SIX).

Alexandria Loring said,in June 12th, 2010 at 2:40 pm tm39- There are many people fired without cause that don’t scare their employer into asking for LE assistance. Even some who are fired with cause and employers don’t ask for assistance and they probably should have.
This speaks volumes to me especially if they had security on site!
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I never heard Ron doing anythingto deserve that kind of unwelcome.

LMAO Robin,you and me,oh but wait….those nasty ole seizures,damn!

If you go to WS there is a pics sticky and the parking is on the otherside of the guards booth. You park then walk by the guard. jmo

UCN: 542009CF000154XXAXMX
File Date: 01/27/2009
Judge: TERRY J LARUE
Case Status: CASE CLOSED
Defense Atty:
Case File Location: CRIMINAL DIVISION

Defendant: BROOKS, AMBER
Alias: No Alias Records

Date # Docket Description
01/27/2009 1 ARREST REPORT – PCSO D/S C GUY (AR 1/26/09)

01/27/2009 1 BOOKING NUMBER: 09-0375

01/27/2009 1 POSSESSION CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE SCHEDULE II

01/27/2009 2 DEFENDANT PRESENT FOR FIRST APPEARANCE HRG 1/26/09

01/27/2009 2 ADJ INS P D APPOINTED FOR FIRST APPEARANCE ONLY

01/27/2009 2 SUFFICIENT PROBABLE CAUSE FOUND

01/27/2009 2 $1504.00 SECURED BOND SET

01/27/2009 3 AFFIDAVIT OF INSOLVENCY

01/27/2009 4 ORDER APPOINTING PUBLIC DEFENDER FOR 1ST APP HEARING

01/28/2009 5 $1504.00 VALENTINE BAIL BONDS – #02280851

01/28/2009 5 ACCREDITED SURETY & CASUALTY COMPANY

02/20/2009 6 ANNOUNCEMENT OF NO INFORMATION TO (ALL CTS)

UCN: 542009CF000699XXAXMX
File Date: 04/21/2009
Judge: EDWARD E HEDSTROM
Case Status: CASE CLOSED
Defense Atty: GENNUSA, ANNE MARIE
Case File Location: CRIMINAL DIVISION

Defendant: BROOKS, AMBER
Alias: No Alias Records

Date # Docket Description
04/21/2009 1 ARREST REPORT – DS/C BOHANNON 4-20-09

04/21/2009 1 BOOKING NUMBER: 09-01568 4-20-09

04/21/2009 1 POSSESSION OF COCAINE

04/21/2009 1 INTRODUCTION OF CONTRABAND INTO CORRECTIONAL FACILITY

04/21/2009 2 AFFIDAVIT OF INSOLVENCY

04/21/2009 3 $1004.00 A-1 24 HR BOND POSTED – #62171349 4-20-09

04/21/2009 4 $1004.00 A-1 24 HR BOND POSTED – $62171346

04/21/2009 4 AMERICAN BANKERS INSURANCE COMPANY

05/05/2009 5 ARREST REPORT – BOND SURRENDERED

05/05/2009 5 ARREST DATE:05/01/2009

05/05/2009 6 $1504.00 CHUCK’S BAIL BOND-#808474 (05/01/2009)

05/05/2009 6 CONTINENTAL HERITAGE INSURANCE COMPANY

05/05/2009 7 $1004.00 CHUCK’S BAIL BOND-#808475 (05/01/2009)

05/05/2009 7 CONTINENTAL HERITAGE INSURANCE COMPANY

05/13/2009 8 INFORMATION (POSSESSION OF COCAINE)

05/13/2009 9 ANNOUNCEMENT OF NO INFORMATION TO (INTRO OF CONTRABAND

05/13/2009 9 INTO PENAL INSTITUTION ONLY)

05/13/2009 10 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (06/01/2009)

05/13/2009 11 NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (06/01/2009)

05/26/2009 12 NOTICE RETURNED UNEXECUTED, NO SUCH STREET

06/01/2009 13 ARRAIGNMENT MINUTES: DEFT NOT PRESENT IN COURT

06/01/2009 13 COURT ORDERED BOND ESTREATED AND A CAPIAS

06/01/2009 13 BOND SET AT NONE

06/05/2009 14 NOTICE OF FORFEITURE – COPY TO BONDSMAN AND SURETY

06/05/2009 15 CAPIAS ISSUED – BOND SET AT NONE

06/09/2009 16 ORDER OF ESTREATURE BOND #808474

06/09/2009 16 RECORDED IN OFFICIAL RECORDS INSTRUMENT #200954678943

08/17/2009 17 WARRANT RETURNED EXECUTED

08/17/2009 18 ARREST REPORT – FTA – POSS OF COCAINE

08/17/2009 19 DEFENDANT PRESENT FOR FIRST APPEARANCE HRG

08/17/2009 19 ADJ INS P D APPOINTED FOR FIRST APPEARANCE ONLY

08/17/2009 19 SUFFICIENT PROBABLE CAUSE FOUND

08/17/2009 19 BOND SET AT NONE

08/17/2009 20 AFFIDAVIT OF INSOLVENCY

08/17/2009 21 ORDER APPOINTING PUBLIC DEFENDER FOR 1ST APP HEARING

08/17/2009 22 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (09/01/2009) IN JAIL

09/01/2009 23 ARRAIGNMENT MINUTES: DEFT PRESENT, SWORN, ARRAIGNED,

09/01/2009 23 PUBLIC DEFENDER APPOINTED, ENTERED PLEA OF NOT GUILTY,

09/01/2009 23 SET FOR PRE TRIAL 10/15/2009.

09/01/2009 24 AFFIDAVIT FOR CRIMINAL INDIGENT STATUS

09/01/2009 25 ORDER APPOINTING PUBLIC DEFENDER

09/01/2009 26 ORDER SETTING PRE TRIAL 10/15/2009

09/01/2009 27 NOTICE GIVEN TO DEFENDANT FOR DRUG COURT 10/15/2009

09/15/2009 28 DEFT NOT TRANSPORTED, CASE CONTINUED UNTIL 9/23/09

09/16/2009 29 DEFT NOT TRANSPORTED, CASE CONTINUED UNTIL 9/23/09

09/30/2009 30 DRUG COURT HEARING MINUTES: DEFT PRESENT, ATT BY KEN

09/30/2009 30 ULICH,TREATMENT WILL SCREEN FOR SUBSTANCE ABUSE,PUBLIC

09/30/2009 30 DEFENDER TO MEET WITH CLIENT, NEXT HEARING SET 10/7/09

09/30/2009 31 NOTICE GIVEN TO DEFENDANT IN COURT FOR NEXT COURT DATE

10/07/2009 32 DRUG COURT HEARING MINUTES: DEFENDANT PRESENT, DEFT MET WITH

10/07/2009 32 PUBLIC DEFENDER, DEFT SCREENED BY TREATMENT AND DEEMED

10/07/2009 32 APPROPRIATE FOR DRUG COURT, DEFT DECLINED THE DRUG COURT

10/07/2009 32 PROGRAM, DEFT WILL FOLLOW TRADITIONAL COURT DOCKET

10/07/2009 33 MOTION TO WITHDRAW AND APPOINT REGIONAL CONFLICT

10/07/2009 33 COUNSEL

10/14/2009 36 ORDER ALLOWING PUBLIC DEFENDER TO WITHDRAW AND

10/14/2009 36 APPOINTING REGIONAL CONFLICT COUNSEL

10/15/2009 34 PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY STEPHANIE PARK

10/15/2009 34 ON MOTION OF DEFENSE COUNSEL, COURT ORDERED CASE

10/15/2009 34 CONTINUED TO 10/27/2009

10/19/2009 35 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (10/27/2009) IN JAIL

10/23/2009 37 FAXED MOTION TO WITHDRAW FROM REPRESENTATION

10/26/2009 38 MOTION TO WITHDRAW

10/26/2009 39 CERTIFICATION OF CONFLICT BY OFFICE OF REGIONAL

10/26/2009 39 CRIMINAL AND CIVIL CONFLICT, 5TH DISTRICT

10/27/2009 40 PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY ANGELA DELARIDIS

10/27/2009 40 ON MOTION OF DEFENSE COUNSEL, COURT ORDERED CASE

10/27/2009 40 CONTINUED TO 11/10/2009

10/29/2009 41 INMATE REQUEST SLIP

10/29/2009 42 ORDER ALLOWING THE OFFICE OF CRIMINAL CONFLICT AND

10/29/2009 42 CIVIL REGIONAL COUNSEL WITHDRAW, APPOINTINT ANNE

10/29/2009 42 MARIE GENNUSA, ESQ

10/29/2009 43 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (11/10/2009)

10/29/2009 44 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (11/10/2009)

11/09/2009 45 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT RETURNED

11/10/2009 46 PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT NOT PRESENT

11/10/2009 46 CASE SET FOR PLEA DAY 11/25/2009

11/12/2009 47 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (11/25/2009) IN JAIL

11/20/2009 48 SCORESHEET FILED

11/20/2009 49 PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY ANNE GENNUSA

11/20/2009 49 W/D FORMER PLEA, PLEAD NOLO AS CHARGED TO

11/20/2009 49 POSSESSION OF COCAINE

11/20/2009 49 ADVISED OF MAX PENALTY 5 YRS DOC &/OR $5000 FINE

11/20/2009 49 PLEA ACCEPTED, PSI WAIVED, SENTENCING –

11/20/2009 49 ADJUDICATION OF GUILT WITHHELD

11/20/2009 49 120 DAYS PCJ WITH 99 DAYS CREDIT

11/20/2009 49 $395 COURT COSTS

11/20/2009 49 $50 PUBLIC DEFENDER APPLICATION FEE

11/20/2009 49 $20 TO THE CRIME STOPPERS TRUST FUND

11/20/2009 49 $100 PUBLIC DEFENDER ATTORNEY FEE

11/20/2009 49 $100 COST OF PROSECUTION

11/20/2009 49 $15 TO THE ALCOHOL AND DRUG ABUSE TRUST FUND

11/20/2009 49 ALL COSTS ENTERED AS A CIVIL LIEN

11/20/2009 50 FINGERPRINTS OF DEFENDANT

12/07/2009 51 JUDGMENT AND SENTENCE

12/07/2009 52 CHARGES, COSTS, AND FEES ASSOCIATED WITH SENTENCE

12/07/2009 52 RECORDED INST#200954693458

12/08/2009 53 CERTIFICATE OF SERVICE AS TO JUDGMENT AND SENTENCE

I can’t find anything on Ambers child?

imo,ron and tn are the only 2 who know the truth…jmo!

makes ya wonder,didn’t anybody ever wonder why cs failed a drug test she knew she’d be given……hmmmm maybe she didn’t want custody????????

she even pointed out she can’t drive to appts,lol duh people,she didn’t want custody!

Tobias–I am sure most people would like a job in Florida. I would assume your college grad does not have children or other mouths to feed (just assuming), nor did he owe back child support either. I am just saying that for all the things Ron did wrong, Crystal was no saint. Just my opinion though.

Before the Plant that Ron worked at became PDM it was Sheffield Steel. Any relation to Crystal?

CathyJoe–Maybe Crystal did not want custody, but I can guarantee, that she did not like Misty raising her children. And for all intents and purposes, most people that were around the children said they loved Misty. I believe Crystal could have been jealous of the children’s adoration for Misty. No I do not think Crystal abducted Haleigh, not on her own. But I do believe a seed could have been planted for someone to do her a “favor”.

Even if CS did not want custody there are people in her family that DID NOT want Ron to have custody. I think that is where motive comes in. Even though Ron and Crystal still had an on again/off again relationship, possibly right up until Haleigh disappeared, there are members of Crystals family that hated Ron.

I know I’m new here but I find it very odd that CS dont mention a word of her missing daughter any place now that she got custudy of jr.
Nor do her family who couldnt get on t.v. often enough in the past.
Soon as Misty and Ronald where jailed it has almost become silent.
I believe now CS has maybe not taken Haleigh but know’s where her family may have sent her too.
They would have much to gain, (her family members that I mean)
They would see Haleigh was safe and not with a 17 yr old and a man they hated.
They would regain custody of Jr and therefore not owe child support.
It was a win win for them if they relocated Haleigh.

WhyLie and Alex, I owe you both a Thank You for answering my questions to you. Thanks, Alex; Thanks, WhyLie.

CathyJo, that crack crack was hilarious and totally impressive.

JenM, I don’t think Tommy did it because I think he would have confessed by now. Ronald had to put a rat in his mailbox to keep him quiet and saying that he went to the home and pounded on the door that night showed that he is weak.

Cathy, Do you know what Chelsea maiden name is?
Seems hse has kept it pretty secret, I havent found it in any articles. Just wanted to check Flagler dockets for her. jmo

One more question about Ron’s job- Is it Union?
My uncle was a steel worker in Pennsyvania and that Union was tough! I don’t think it would let a union worker to get fired with cause much less without cause!

Heys guys anything new found in your digging around? I was in first thing this morning but had to chance up on some errands and chores around here.

Anyone who thinks PDM is high security needs to go look at the pictures page on WS. tHE SECURITY IS A JOKE. JMO

I don’t think Ron’s employer is part of the
UAW. That union has been combined to include
auto workers, steel workers and coal miners.
My father retired from United States Steel
but was a Coal Miner. United Mined coal and
manufactured steel and then sold it to the auto makers.

I think they manfacture some kind of steel infastructure for bridges