Having just watched the news equivalent of the WWF, I find myself wondering exactly what is going on?
Nancy Grace and her ‘team’ love to play with the facts. Thursday was a perfect example. The jail audio which First Coast News, The Sky 97.3, and Bloggernews had published before 11am Thursday irks me. This tape was not EXCLUSIVE to HLN. In fact HLN were late getting in the game! All of the rest of us had an 8 hour lead!
The recent Bombshell that Tommy Croslin’s wife had filed for divorce was older than an aged ham. This was an event that has historical significance rather than news.
But what is actually going on in the case?
The answer is that I do not know. I have no special access to the inner workings of the PCSO. My information comes through he same routes as every other news organization covering it. The email addresses and phone numbers have been published numerous times. This case is one that they wish to show transparency on, while maintaining a very professional attitude. When I contact them, they always reply. I try to ask questions that clarify the current situation. I do not ask for speculation, I know that they will not take that route.
What I am seeing is some disarray in the ranks of the Croslin’s and Cummings. The cops may not have them fingered completely for the Haleigh Cummings disappearance, but they all seem to have a part to play. The drug side of the equation seems to be paying dividends.
The 15 year sentence given to Hope Sykes, who by most is viewed as a mere ‘bit player’ set the stage.
If we are to believe certain news orgs, Ronald Cummings has now inked the deal on his plea bargain, apparently ratting out the rest of the miscreants. Ex wife, ex babysitter, ex who knows what Misty Croslin, her brother Tommy Croslin, and Equusearch former member Donna Brock. You don’t need a PhD in astrophysics to figure out that 15 years is better than 85. Of course, one wonders why he would ‘cop a plea’ if he was innocent?
Tommy Croslin is also enjoying the largess of the jail system. Many thought that he would be the first to crack. What does Tommy know? He seems to love to point the finger at the well known Cousin Joe. But, so what?
The police seem to be quite capable of rounding up the folks they want, I’d lay a bet that if they thought Cousin Joe was involved, they would have rounded him up on one charge or another. Drugs, Firearms, Stealing, oh the possibilities are endless.
Is it just me? How come we are hearing so little about the remaining members of the Famous Five (apologies to Enid Blyton readers).
What has happened to Donna Brock? Why no court appearances?
What do they have cooking for Misty Croslin?
If Hope Sykes and Ronald Cummings can score a 15 year all expenses paid vacation, how many years will Misty win?
I am sure that this will be a subject of discussion on Sundays program. The link is here.
Simon Barrett
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is it showing now guys?
i got disconnected again….
You made it! Where’s OJ?
Simon, Iappreciate you guys and your postings so much.I am so tired of hearing THEIR old news over and over again.I can’t wait to see what happens.I’m sure some of them are going to be in for a big surprised. Thanks.
I still doubt that any deal was inked as Simon stated. I still think the Hope sentence was a bullshit ploy to get them to talk too. I do pray I am wrong here but Ron (in my opinion) will not see anything near 15 years.
I am still trying to figure out what Ronald Cummings could attest to that would make it possible for him to even receive a plea deal. The sting videos tell it all. Ron has a more colorful rap sheet than the rest of these players and it is in my opinion that he should do the time at least more than his cousin Hope Sykes; not equal. If he had been punished for his priors maybe none of this would have happened.
It seems as though Donna has fell invisible. Makes you wonder what she has to plea with. Donna could definitely tell alot when it comes to Misty and Ronald. jmo
Or the NG panelist Friday saying there was a 20ft rope w/ 5 feet missing that was found off the dock. I think it was a what if but was stated as fact…
jesus…a litle girl is missing,all her family can do is slice each other up to take the heat off them??????? god works in weird ways…
JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE..PRAYERS FOR HALEIGH..XXX..
NG lied about the bones, even though AH told her it wasn’t confirmed they were Haleigh’s. Another time, Flora Hollars told her that Misty said such and such, but NG then when on the attack, and turned it around to make it seem as though Flora didn’t hear it DIRECTLY from Misty. Flora clearly stated that she heard it from Misty, and others, but NG latched onto the ‘others’ only and insulted Flora.
Of course, her ratings game includes insulting guests for an audience that her producer (Marlaina) and marketing execs aim to please.
NG couldn’t photoshop AH like the National Enquirer would, so she had him painted orange?
Ng had it first on cable tv’s HLN at 8 pm central. That’s all they can really claim if they are pressed on. exclusivity.
There were snipets of the attorney shown at around 9 am on HLN yesterday. Plus, folks here had better and more thorough info.
Jason said,in May 15th, 2010 at 8:08 pm NG lied about the bones, even though AH told her it wasn’t confirmed they were Haleigh’s. Another time, Flora Hollars told her that Misty said such and such, but NG then when on the attack, and turned it around to make it seem as though Flora didn’t hear it DIRECTLY from Misty. Flora clearly stated that she heard it from Misty, and others, but NG latched onto the ‘others’ only and insulted Flora.
Of course, her ratings game includes insulting guests for an audience that her producer (Marlaina) and marketing execs aim to please.
NG couldn’t photoshop AH like the National Enquirer would, so she had him painted orange?
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Takes a nasty person to do that Jason!
I used to Love N/G and always wished she’d been on my husband’s case,now i don’t know if I’d let her read the newspaper to me,she is very biased!
The way i see it,when she pokes fun at Flora,she may as well insult my Amom cause they’re alot alike!
I too am perplexed as to what Ron can offer in the way of info on the drug deals. Everyone was caught red-handed. The tapes tell the whole story…no help from Mr. Cummings needed. Either he’s bargaining to hand LE a bigger fish on the drug bust, or he knows something useful in the Haleigh case. Has to be one or the other.
ron and misty passing and selling pills back and forth. They have a grrat case against them, and ron aint no UC dude…he’s a Dude, a Dude who they were stinging. A Dude who’s about to admit to his wrongdoing and mistys wrongdoing and settle in the the motel from hell.
I remember hops mom saying there were two camera views that caught hope.
We haven’t seen those views, so for those that think the sting was illegal, take a look at all views before deciding. There is something there that LE and the DA have that is horribly incriminating.
I am not saying this about ron either way,guilty or not?? we’ll see?? but why are all the others in jail bad and ron isn’t?? excuse me he did,and dealt drugs too….so where does she get off??
KC,I agree….what does he know that the others don’t?
Nancy Grace could see AH looked like a carrot.
She’s all about ratings; if people watching laughed at AH being orange, that was probably fine with her.
TrotlineDesigns said, in May 15th, 2010 at 7:53 pm I still doubt that any deal was inked as Simon stated. I still think the Hope sentence was a bullshit ploy to get them to talk too. I do pray I am wrong here but Ron (in my opinion) will not see anything near 15 years.
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I don’t think Ron will get anything near 15 years either.
Why aren’t we getting any evidence information?
It seems that we get that in other cases. Like, did they find fingerprints? etc?
Ive only heard of a cinder block on the back walkway, a door that wasn’t broken into, antifreeze on the ground, antifreeze in the trunk of naynays car, naynay’s car keys in the dirt at the scene, sketchy phone calls, work alibi, a scratch on the van, the keys to the van missing, the van is moved, a dog barking, a 911 call, no laundry soap, dogs hitting on scent from back door down through the woods and it stops, dog hitting on dumpster, letters from jail, jail tapes, failed ldt, botched police reports, empty lake searches, bus stop witnesses and whoever knows what else. One thing for sure, none of it adds up.
There has also been a lot of time spent on looking at the players involved and what their history is. Everyone of them have a bad past, but none for murdering anyone.
Motives, well I can only think of four. One is that a pedophile has a motive. Two is that a payback (from someone connected to drugs/guns/prostitution) or exgirlfriend revenge is a motive. Three is a I owe 12,000 in back child support motive. Four is a Im tired of Ron having the kids, played out by family members seeking justice and fairness motive.
The first two may result in death, where as the last two she could be alive.
If there is no motive, then it must of been an accident, right? Maybe an accident no one wants to be responsible for?
Or maybe there was a motive. Maybe they were just made to think it was an accident, to get them all to think they were to blame, thus become part of the cover up and lies. I can’t wait till this is solved, if ever~!!!
I think Ron knows the real truth and he is telling it all to get out of this drug charge. If he does get 15 years you can all call me an idiot but I just do not see it. Shoemaker wouldn’t let him plea so early if the best he was going to get was 15. My bet is 5 with probation.
CathyJo @ 8:13 pm: You would have had to take a chance on her being biased for the murderer.
Well, we get so much information from the ‘media’ and you know how they twist things. Plus, maybe LE is putting it out there that he is ratting them out, to get them to talk? Very possible. However, i bet he is giving info on his sources for the drugs/guns etc. They just want Misty and Tommy to think its all about them. They know Misty will freak out if she hears Ron is throwing her under the bus. You know she will. LE knows it too. This is Ron’s payback for her not telling him what happened that night. This should make her spill the beans, hopefully. She is so young, she will think that Ron will love her again and not rat her out. Who knows! But I do think they are playing mind games with Misty to get her to talk. Tommy too.
I’d love to know the motive but they don’t need one to rpove the crime, IF they have solid evidence.
We’ll see if that true.
On the d/c’s, how does anyone think ron will get less than 15? Becasue he’s a model citizen just trying help clean the county of traffickers? No, he is ONE and should pay what the current law calls for.
Same with the others. Only tommy has the low ball charge.
Hope got her 15, at her request as she signed the plea deal agreeing to the sentence…funny how no one wants to talk about that fact. She does have some time left to appeal, though she’s had time to file an appeal for “not undertstanding what happened to her. Seems like a simple basis. Even a new court appointed lawyer would have said something by now if he/she was representing her, at least I think so.
My bet was 5 as well. They offered him 25 according to him. But standard on a min mand would be to try and ask for 15 then they could play with how much time he actually spent in jail. Folks they already offered him the 25 years, and that is a gift when he had six counts.
What does he have to offer? Well do we assume these cases are apart? Because I see him having much to offer in the case of his child being killed and while I do not put it past him and think he could have been told by phone if she was drugged, no I do not think the man killed his daughter. There is an outstanding charge on Tommy and Misty for Roxycondone that has a 15 or 25 year min mand. That is more than the 3 year min mand on the charge they filed. This outstanding charge was never filed it is floating around in space out there for some reason. Tommy’s lawyer brought it up how he needed the discovery on that charge. Who knows why, maybe not such a good case? The video broke? Maybe Ron can help with this one?
I mean to Tommy a min mand of 15 or 25 is worse that three years, right?
JenM if you are referring to Haleighs case noone has been charged yet. We wont see evidence until after that happens.
Trotline, I personally think that would be an outrage if Ron only got 5 years and probation!!Rons arrest record is way more than anyone elses. It is horrible that his daughter is gone, but it did not stop him from continuing his life of drugs and becoming a better parent to Jr.. He needs more time than Hope got and that is my personal opinion. Ron learned nothing from Haleighs Disappearance.
do drugs really cloud your love of your child? i just dont understand??? what has ron if unless he knows what has happened to haleigh got by covering for anyone??? what does he have to make a deal with?????????? the coverup of his childs death???
does anyone remember without me going to look for it what the ex fbi guy said about he knew and we would be suprised or I am I dreaming?
I just do not believe Ron’s lawyer when he said that Ron’s plea deal is on the drug deal he is a player and what would anything he had to say matter? JMO
I still wonder if all this Joe talk is code for Ron ( I know crazy) but on the tape Tommy never says Joe only that he can’t get to them…
another thing that bothers me..everyone is a drugtaker/dealer/ nohoper…how is there no links,clues,evidence to where/what happened to Haleigh…if these people are so off their heads they dont have the brains to cover their tracks..jmo…
you know dpierce, I do not think that is crazy at all. I even thought the same thing as you. Yes Steve Brown said we would be shocked.
If someone is psychotic and commits an act, they may not recall doing it. Some of these drugs have the side effect of ‘drug-induced psychosis’. I think LE is trying to make Tommy think he did something to Haleigh and that may be why he said to Lyndsy, “I know exactly what I am doing when on pills”.
Sorry, I have to say this, but to me Joe looks like he could have some mental issues going on. Then add drugs to it? Something isn’t right about him.
Hey, maybe the mystery person is nay nay? You never know, do you?
Jason said,in May 15th, 2010 at 8:28 pm CathyJo @ 8:13 pm: You would have had to take a chance on her being biased for the murderer.
AMEN!!!
I think Tommy said “he can’t get to the kids now” because maybe LE assured him that if he told on Joe, then they would lock him away for life. Maybe that was his guarantee.
Just my thought.
just for the record i have no love for ron,crystal,misty or any other of these losers that have put all their own lifestyles,habits before Haleigh….xxx….
My prediction:
Ron 15 years.
Donna 15 years.
Misty 25 years.
Minnie,
As a recovering Addict of Opiates/Alcohol, drugs take over your whole thought process. I could not think of anything else but my next High, not helping my children w/homework, making them meals, ect…..I am not making any excuses for any of these people for what they may or may not have done. I am just sharing my personal experience as a ReCovering Addict. Its a hard way to live. I am just Grateful that I found my way out of that lifestyle. It’s so sad because they are all so young and they have children. While they are in jail I hope they have to go to some sort of rehab. Tommy did ask for that. But they also need to do the time for their crimes!
Amber Brooks and Kristina Rene “Nay-Nay” Prevatt were both arrested and jailed on cocaine charges April 20, 2009 in Putnam County. Cobra, the bounty hunter, bailed both of them out.
But Nay-Nay was back in the Putnam County Jail within a week, her bail revoked by Cobra. He said that he had tracked Nay-Nay to a “filthy” Palatka crash pad after learning that she had allegedly tried to grab her own daughter, Destiny, nine-months-old, from the custodial father, Donovan Spells.
According to Kim Picazio, (Crystal Sheffield’s attorney), Nay-Nay “needs to get into rehab for her drug addiction, and we’ve been pleading with her to get help.” Picazio has said that Nay-Nay apparently snapped when she saw another woman holding Destiny outside the father’s house and tried to wrestle the baby from her and the father. Nay-Nay was in a car with her mother yelling, “Drive, hurry up and drive!”, as she played tug-of-war with the baby. Cobra says that is an alleged attempt at child kidnapping, which makes Nay-Nay a risk for the bonding company, so he had to hunt her down. Cobra also said that he found Nay-Nay asleep on a dirty mattress, and told her that she was going back to jail. “She cried and screamed that she’d die in jail,” Cobra said, but admits that jail might be the safest place for her right now. Evidently Nay-Nay had texted her ex bf, that she intended to kill herself after she had seen her baby being held by another woman, and the ex bf forwarded the text message to Picazio and Cobra.
At last report, it seems there are at least two versions of who really bailed Nay-Nay out of jail the second time around. One report has it that Nay-Nay’s boyfriend is a 37 year old black man and that she was bailed out by the local bail bond company.
Another version is that Nay-Nay was bailed out the second time around by a 46 year old white sex offender. Will update as available.
SHE’D DIE IN JAIL….WTH?
Friend of Amber Brooks, also a friend of Misty, is called “Nay-Nay”. Has said that Ron doesn’t like her, that Ron would get mad when/if Haleigh told him that “Nay-Nay” had come to their home. Nay-Nay has a nine-month-old daughter named Destiny, who is in the custody of the father, Donovan Spells, 47
The week before Haleigh went missing, reportedly Ron and Misty got into an argument, and Misty went over to her brother’s home. She reportedly called Nay-Nay to come get her. Nay-Nay reportedly picked her up from her brother’s home and they went cruising around the area. Nay-Nay claims to have then introduced Misty to a local man, named Greg Page, aka “White Boy Greg”. That meeting reportedly resulted in a couple of days of sex and drug use for Misty and Greg, and perhaps others including Nay-Nay, on the weekend before Haleigh went missing. That weekend is also referred to as Misty’s “three-day bender”.
HMMMMMMMMMMMM?? Ronald got mad if he even heard NayNay was there?
Nikki6 said,in May 15th, 2010 at 9:02 pm Minnie,
As a recovering Addict of Opiates/Alcohol, drugs take over your whole thought process. I could not think of anything else but my next High, not helping my children w/homework, making them meals, ect…..I am not making any excuses for any of these people for what they may or may not have done. I am just sharing my personal experience as a ReCovering Addict. Its a hard way to live. I am just Grateful that I found my way out of that lifestyle. It’s so sad because they are all so young and they have children. While they are in jail I hope they have to go to some sort of rehab. Tommy did ask for that. But they also need to do the time for their crimes!
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I know exactly what you are saying,Thank God I am 5 yrs clean..lol
I am glad to meet you!
nikki6
Thankyou,i am not here to judge but to try and understand…and it is only strong people like yourself that can truly help us understand the pain of a family in addiction..xxx..
Minnie,
Glad to meet u as well!
CathyJoe,
HHHMMMMMM……that is very interesting???? Makes me wonder????
Former girlfriend of Ron Cummings – is the mother of Jordan (now about 20 months old and disabled), youngest son of Ron Cummings – Amber was 17 when pregnant with Jordan.
While Amber was living with Ron, Misty Croslin (then age 16) often babysat Jordan, reportedly warning Amber to get Jordan away from Ron so that the baby wouldn’t get hurt. Amber did take the baby and left Ron when Jordan was about 6 weeks old, reportedly moving in with her grandmother, who began taking care of Jordan. That was around the fall of 2007. Amber reportedly told Ron that she didn’t want anything from him, not even a dime. Reportedly Ron has never paid child support for Jordan. Ron and his family reportedly did not contact Amber/Jordan again until just after Haleigh went missing.
At some point there was a falling out between Amber and Misty. Because in late Sept 2008, there was a police report filed claiming that Amber’s mother (Lisa A Brooks, age 37), committed battery on Misty. This was because of some alleged hostile comments that Misty had made about Amber. And in early Oct 2008, Lisa was charged and found guilty for that battery on Misty.
Sometime in Oct 2008, Misty moved in with Ron and his two kids Haleigh and Ron Jr. And in mid Nov 2008, Misty allegedly is the one who posted nasty comments on Amber’s myspace page: ” ***** i got ur man and i will have ur baby to”.
Tommys lawyer saying JO and Tommy wanted to borrow Rons gun to go deer hunting. Joe goes beserk because he can’t find the gun (wanting so bad to go deer hunting I guess) that he kills Haleigh. Did I get that right, or the jist of it? Doesn’t sound like a very convincing argument. But what do I know.
maryd said,in May 15th, 2010 at 9:14 pm Tommys lawyer saying JO and Tommy wanted to borrow Rons gun to go deer hunting. Joe goes beserk because he can’t find the gun (wanting so bad to go deer hunting I guess) that he kills Haleigh. Did I get that right, or the jist of it? Doesn’t sound like a very convincing argument. But what do I know.
You know the same as I do,Thats sill BullShat!
silly..lol
CathyJo you go girl!! we all need a refresh. We might pick up something we did not before. Why would Misty warn Amber to take Joedan and leave Ron and go be with him herself if she knew Ronald was dangerous?
hi to everyone here..its really late here across the pond but i just love all everyones fight for justice for haleigh..xxx..
right Looking,thats why i am going over all this old stuff,lol my memory aint good!!!!!
hindsight is always a good thing!
Tommy first said to steal the gun and now it is borrow. I believe this a BS story!! I am with Sheryl Mccollum, Tommy needs to man up and tell the truth!! Get the deal!!
you are right Cathyjo. thanks alot!!
Interesting stuff about Nay Nay and Amber. If thats really Ronalds son how could TN or AS not want to be part of his life?
minnie said,in May 15th, 2010 at 9:11 pm
Again, I am not making excuses for this whacked out bunch, but I do understand the lifestyle of addiction. Its very hard for a person w/o addiction to understand the way addiction takes over your mind. Nothing else in the world matters what-so-ever except our next “High”. Until addicts hit their complete bottom, which is different for every addict, they cannot stop the cycle of addiction. Unfortunately alot of addicts do not find recovery and their “bottom” is six-feet-under. I am not trying to preach but I pray for practicing addicts to find recovery every single day. It makes me so sad to see such young people w/children to go down this ugly path when I know they could find a better way of life “IF” they wanted to.
NayNay keeps coming up??
dunno why!
Nothing like a 1 am deer hunt to get your day started. Maybe all the deer in Tenn ran to Florida and joe was just chasing them. Hahahaha! Whatever.
Tommy goes to steal the gun, misty says no, put it back, Haleigh hears and see them. They have to take action. They know ron will believe Haleigh and tommy is a known thief. Maybe that’s what happened. They then have to dump the body. Joe might never have been there.
Your right CathyJo she sures to be in the mix of things.
Jaba very plausible.
Donald Lee Sapp Registered Sex Offender
possibly related in some way to Guy W. Sapp, Raymond Sapp, (which would make Donald related by marriage to Misty Croslin), and possibly related in some way to a Griffis (which could make Donald related by marriage as a maternal cousin to Haleigh Cummings).
From Putnam, at one time lived in the same town as Haleigh’s mother, Crystal, in Glenn Saint Mary, FL, has also lived in Mcclenny, FL, where some of Crystal’s family is from/living.
—-> Registered Sex Offender, arrested on 6-12-1997 for lewd/lascivious assault on 14 yr old female, occuring in East Palatka. At the time he was already serving probation for a prev. charge of l/l assault on 13 yr old female runaway. In 2000 he was arrested for trying to set up a meeting with a 10 yr old female, on a sting with her father in an internet chatroom. Billye Lee Griffis had testified in Donald’s trial in the 1990′s. A Raymond Sapp contributed to bail in one of Donald’s cases, and Donald is mentioned in Raymond obituary in 2005. Donald was married and has four children, according to Raymond Sapp’s obituary.
Donald moved to 315 2nd Ave, Satsuma, (which is 3.6 miles from the Cummings home). In doing public records search, 315 2nd Ave. comes up as being owned by and having been the residence of Jeffrey Michael Griffis and Billye Lee (Wager?) Griffis. (see http://www1.putnam-fl.com/live/papage.asp?id=8132 ).
On 12-30-2008, Billye files a petition for injunction against domestic violence against Jeffrey, who is served a subpeona on 01-02-2009.
On 01-05-09, Jeffrey files a petition for injunction against domestic violence on behalf of his children against Donald Sapp. It was denied. Three days later Jeffrey was dead.
Jeffrey M. Griffis, age 29, was hit by a car on 1/7/2009 and died the next day. Benjamin D. Prewitt, 74, of Crescent City, was driving southbound on U.S. 17 on the Dunns Creek Bridge when he failed to see Griffis in the roadway. (He was standing in the road/freeway, was he suicidal? Local rumor has it that his wife Billye and Donald L. Sapp were carrying on.)
Donald Lee Sapp moved into Jeffrey and Billye’s home on 1/26/2009, a few weeks after Jeffrey’s death. Did Billye stay in the home or had she moved out?
A few weeks after Donald moved in, Haleigh disappeared.
Donald’s Pic:
http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee166/benzo_013/sexoffender.jpg
Goodnight all! I am heading to bed. Catch up with you all tomorrow. Gods speed
I think I might have read something about NayNay’s keys being found near the dumpster? Anyone else know what’s up with that?
4-24-2010
Chads mood on his myspace is ecstatic.hm eird when his g/f daughters missing!
Nikki6…thankyou..to come from what must be the pit of hell and help us to try and understand this evil of drug addiction i for one applaud you and wish you goodluck and gods will to keep this from you…until this knocks on your door can anyone cast a stone…
Yes Nikki,Cobra said they were keys found at the fake search site and he tried to give them to le but they did not want them so he tried them in NayNays car………fit,lol i dunno?
Gnite’ Looking! sweet dreams!
maryd said,in May 15th, 2010 at 9:22 pm Interesting stuff about Nay Nay and Amber. If thats really Ronalds son how could TN or AS not want to be part of his life?
Exactly my thoughts?
I just can’t see Tommy or Joe killing Haleigh because big bad Ron may find out they were trying to steal his gun. Don’t think they would care enough to kill an innocent child because of it, JMO. I think her death (if she is) had to have something to do with drugs (also based on Nikkis comment drugs are their primary concern). If Misty was doing coke and Oxi’s over the bender, and she ran out of fixes, how bad would her desire be by Monday night I wonder?
Minnie,
Thank you for your kindness & understanding.
CathyJo,
So, if they found her car keys there, she must have been there that night? When/where was the fake search site? I do not know much about that?
I’m thinking so, too.
Tommy was there at 530 making his plan. Hell, what else is this guy doing for a living but scheming and scamming like his mom, who is a thief. Steal something here, steal something there, do a drug, steal something else, do another drug…That’s the whole family plan for the croslins.
Tommy knew what time ron NORMALLY should have gotten home, so you know he was there way before then. He probably figured he could blame it joe since joe was going back the next day and that ron didn’t have the gas money to cahse him. And if the gun was illegal, ron wasn’t going to call the cops.
misty could have been planning to leave ron and wanted the money. She just ran away and slept with a guy who’s name, is White Boy Greg…that’s some nickname.
Neves, Theresa Ann
mother of Ronald L. Cummings, paternal grandmother of Haleigh Cummings, bd 3-7-1960, Alachua County SO Dispatcher, lives at 105 Rita Ln Pomona Park, FL, age 48
HUH??
Does anyone know for sure?
Croslin, Misty Jeanette
girlfriend of Ronald Lemyles Cummings Sr, bd 12-9-1991, family is from Michigan, perhaps also from TN, news first reported Misty as being Ronald’s cousin, <<<<age 17
HALEIGH’s FAMILY on her mother’s side:
mother – Crystal Diane Sheffield
Crystals mother – Nancy Marie Johns Sheffield Griffis (aka Marie)
Crystals father – Johnny Marcus Sheffield
Crystals siblings – Sarah Lavon Sheffield, Marcus Sheffield, Savannah Sheffield
Crystals step-mother – Connie Sheffield
Crystals step-father – Bruce A. Griffis
Crystals uncle – Andrew Sheffield
Crystals aunts – Katrina Belcher, Dana
Crystals children – Haleigh Ann Marie Cummings, Ronald Lemyles Cummings Jr, Chloe (Sheffield? Griffis?)
Crystals boyfriend/fiance – Chad Griffis
Maries father – Virgil Johns Jr
Maries step-mother – Marilyn C. Brannen Johns
Other known relatives – Deborah Lynn Griffis, Jill Griffis, Victor Griffis, Ruby Johns, Virgil Johns Jr
Known relatives, not sure if from mother’s or father’s side – Ronald Padgett, Sherry Padgett
Possibly related in some way – Floyd J. Collins Jr, Peggy Latrelle Sapp Collins, Billye Lee (Wager?) Griffis, Jeffrey Michael Griffis, Kyle S. Johns Jr, Kyle S. Johns Sr, Virgil Johns (III ?),>>>> Donald Lee Sapp, Guy W. Sapp, Raymond Sapp
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I thought Sapp was visiting the Croslins?? wth,what am i missing or doing wrong?
I gotta a question. Does anyone have any links on Steve Brown? What is his story? I’ve read he knows everything & we are all gonna be shocked by the outcome. So I am curious to find more out about this man.
Can anyone help me out?
Thnx!
Nikki6 said,in May 15th, 2010 at 9:34 pm Minnie,
Thank you for your kindness & understanding.
CathyJo,
So, if they found her car keys there, she must have been there that night? When/where was the fake search site? I do not know much about that?
hm second,i’ll find it for you,the info? brb
I can’t post the link here,not allowed Nikki.lol but go to youtube,type in writeintoaction…….tons of info you’ll prolly enjoy!
If you do not raise the children you give birth to, I doubt your emotions for a grandchild would be any stronger to overcome your addiction or whatever caused you to lose custody of your first born babies.
So very, very sad…. again, I think it is the drugs that are at the very basis of this case… dysfunctional lives, no adults to protect, let alone able functioning adults to raise or nuture their children with basic morals… children or grandchildren or great grandchildren..
May HaLeigh rest in peace, and perhaps just one life change direction due to this precious little girl, her life, and all that has been lost…
hang on nikki,i can post that! brb
At this point how can we believe a darn word that comes out of Tommy’s mouth, first he was never at the trailer that night then a few months later he was their at 10:00, Then he swares up and down to LE, to Linsey, to anyone who would Listen that he has no idea what happend to haleigh that night then a few months later he was their with Jo. From now on everything that comes out of his mouth I’m considering it opposite day.
If Misty and Tommy admitted now that they lied couldn’t PCSO charge them with abstruction and impeding an investigation and Lying to LE – I believe thats what they first charged Casey with.
nikki,
The fake search was at San Meteo area and thats where Nay Nays keys were found.
right JNet,it is sad,and i guess some think like i used too,its easier to keep things the way they are than to change them!
Very Sad!
Nikki,if that doesn’t help you,holler ok??
TY Ann,I am ole as dirt,can’t think fast anymore!
CathyJo63 said,in May 15th, 2010 at 9:54 pm TY Ann,I am ole as dirt,can’t think fast anymore!
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Aww Heck CathyJo, I hear wedding bells ringing..LOLLOL..
chakra7 said,in May 15th, 2010 at 9:49 pm At this point how can we believe a darn word that comes out of Tommy’s mouth, first he was never at the trailer that night then a few months later he was their at 10:00, Then he swares up and down to LE, to Linsey, to anyone who would Listen that he has no idea what happend to haleigh that night then a few months later he was their with Jo. From now on everything that comes out of his mouth I’m considering it opposite day.
If Misty and Tommy admitted now that they lied couldn’t PCSO charge them with abstruction and impeding an investigation and Lying to LE – I believe thats what they first charged Casey with.
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how can we believe a darn word that comes out of Tommy’s mouth………AMEN SISTA!!!!!
You know how to tell when a druggie is lying Chakra??
He opens his mouth!
Steve Brown, the ex-FBI guy said It would not be a big surprise. He did not say it would be a big surprise.
“There may be other people culpable, but as to who killed Haleigh, that’s not going to be a big surprise,” Brown said.
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/23150613/detail.html
True True my dear CathyJo
I am so glad you do,cause i don’t..rofl every sense i used to own is leaving,lol
chakra7: I think (not an attorney) you are absolutely correct…. as with the tape Mr. Barrett mentioned on his previous post….. anyone with any knowledge ( or tapes incriminating someone ) of what happened to precious HaLeigh and did not disclose that info to LE will be charged… unless they are granted immunity as were the Anthony’s….. (please don’t bash me, I think they ask for immunity, I may be way wrong) I think they are open to accessory after the fact but not obstructing…. I’m sorry I need to read again… soooo IMO
I dunno why i don’t believe the JO Story but I don’t………well i do know why sorta,cause Tommy said so!lol but i don’t really!
Thnks Everyone! Good Night! Gonna let the boys play COD b4 bed.
God Bless You All!
Every single one of them should be IMVHO Jnet,why i have always said,the same info they know now is also the same info they had at the most critical time…….and could have helped find Haleigh!
Nobody cut any time off Haleighs sentence…in a manner of speaking! imo
Jnet-
I think you are right , I personally would love ANY charges filed in the death of this precious child , 15 months is a long time to wait for any justice
Oh Gosh Chak.. I meant I am not an attorney… my post doesn’t read that well, no wonder I get in so much trouble! My intent is that I am NOT an ATTY certainly not judging you!!!!
no worries , you wrote it right lol, I understood
chelsea beat up amber’s mom for beating up misty..saw the police report the other day, heck if I can recall where. I think it was chelesa not lindsy but maybe it was lyndsy.
OJ- I think you are right it was Chelsea
Yes she did OJ,I posted that earlier,info on it i mean,lol
today is the ides of march.. et tu brute?
there a scrappy bunch
Also on the Nay Nay situation, I just can’t rule out her and WBG , I’ve always Kept that sceanario in the back of my mind (of them and Misty partying that night and HaLeigh ends up dead)
chakra7 said,in May 15th, 2010 at 10:16 pm Also on the Nay Nay situation, I just can’t rule out her and WBG , I’ve always Kept that sceanario in the back of my mind (of them and Misty partying that night and HaLeigh ends up dead)
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didn’t happen on the same night, misty was home recoperating
OJ Seriously?? I mean I can pass the the “he man woman hater’s club” secret
…. I know who TcH is and KP but not a clue of the arrest you talk about above… oh gosh please someone take care of these children from unfortunately, their mothers…. really is there a police report?? (thank you) and IMHO for my post
OJ- I meant that WBG and Nay Nay meet up again with Misty, the night that Haleigh goes missing , just a theory
Jnet: I think it was at scaredmonkeys..
but I don’t remember..maybe I read cathy’s post and my memories are confused..sry
Kristina Renee Prevatt (aka “Nay-Nay”)
Friend of Amber Brooks, also a friend of Misty, is called “Nay-Nay”. Has said that Ron doesn’t like her, that Ron would get mad when/if Haleigh told him that “Nay-Nay” had come to their home. Nay-Nay has a nine-month-old daughter named Destiny, who is in the custody of the father, Donovan Spells, 47
The week before Haleigh went missing, reportedly Ron and Misty got into an argument, and Misty went over to her brother’s home. She reportedly called Nay-Nay to come get her. Nay-Nay reportedly picked her up from her brother’s home and they went cruising around the area. Nay-Nay claims to have then introduced Misty to a local man, named Greg Page, aka “White Boy Greg”. That meeting reportedly resulted in a couple of days of sex and drug use for Misty and Greg, and perhaps others including Nay-Nay, on the weekend before Haleigh went missing. That weekend is also referred to as Misty’s “three-day bender”.
RIP Zoe
Re: Who’s Who in the Haleigh Cummings Case
« Reply #14 on: May 05, 2009, 08:14:44 PM »
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Amber Brooks and Kristina Rene “Nay-Nay” Prevatt were both arrested and jailed on cocaine charges April 20, 2009 in Putnam County. Cobra, the bounty hunter, bailed both of them out.
But Nay-Nay was back in the Putnam County Jail within a week, her bail revoked by Cobra. He said that he had tracked Nay-Nay to a “filthy” Palatka crash pad after learning that she had allegedly tried to grab her own daughter, Destiny, nine-months-old, from the custodial father, Donovan Spells.
According to Kim Picazio, (Crystal Sheffield’s attorney), Nay-Nay “needs to get into rehab for her drug addiction, and we’ve been pleading with her to get help.” Picazio has said that Nay-Nay apparently snapped when she saw another woman holding Destiny outside the father’s house and tried to wrestle the baby from her and the father. Nay-Nay was in a car with her mother yelling, “Drive, hurry up and drive!”, as she played tug-of-war with the baby. Cobra says that is an alleged attempt at child kidnapping, which makes Nay-Nay a risk for the bonding company, so he had to hunt her down. Cobra also said that he found Nay-Nay asleep on a dirty mattress, and told her that she was going back to jail. “She cried and screamed that she’d die in jail,” Cobra said, but admits that jail might be the safest place for her right now. Evidently Nay-Nay had texted her ex bf, that she intended to kill herself after she had seen her baby being held by another woman, and the ex bf forwarded the text message to Picazio and Cobra.
At last report, it seems there are at least two versions of who really bailed Nay-Nay out of jail the second time around. One report has it that Nay-Nay’s boyfriend is a 37 year old black man and that she was bailed out by the local bail bond company.
Another version is that Nay-Nay was bailed out the second time around by a 46 year old white sex offender. Will update as available.
Greg Lewis Page (aka “White Boy Greg”)
Greg is a light-skinned black man who was introduced to Misty by Nay-Nay, who rode around with them as they cruised the area. Misty was with Greg on her three-day bender of sex and drug use. They may have also been with a group of friends partying that weekend. Recently there have been reports of males in a truck “looking for” Greg, who has been laying low following supposed threats from the Cummings family.
OJ,isn’t wbg in jail now?
wonder why naynay said she’d die in jail?
I don’t know that is strange CathyJo, because these people should be so used to jail it should be like a second home to them , by the looks of their arrest reports they are constantly in and out
I changed my mind..instead of the sundress,
daisey dukes and a tubetop, barefoot..omg
and YES WBG is in jail with Ronald, would love to be a fly on that wall LOL
Wbg arrested and jailed on posseesion and trafficking charges.
Should be a hell of a reunion for all these folks.
Ron said he didn’t care if misty had a ‘f and a half’ with Wbg. What a nice guy.
Right Chakra,what i thought,you’d think she’d be more scared outside,
rofl OJ,I’d have to iron the wrinkles outta my skin to wear that!!
Jaba- I know that shocked me I always had Ronald pegged for a crazy jealous type
Jaba,a family reunion in jail…bet thats a first! lol
ty Jaba,i thought so but anymore i question if i dreamed it,wished it or really saw it! lol
roflmbo Chakara,maybe he’ll get to do what naynay said he was gonna do in her interview,lol
I would loooove to see that CathyJo
Chakra,they must be used to it? heck if i was facing what they are and young as they are I’d have confessed to taking the Linburgh baby! or the one the dingo SUPPOSEDLY ate,lol
rofl,to be a fly,heck i’d settle to be a cockroach to see that,lol
shayshay said,
in May 15th, 2010 at 7:58 pm
Or the NG panelist Friday saying there was a 20ft rope w/ 5 feet missing that was found off the dock. I think it was a what if but was stated as fact
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Taken From Transcripts of Nancy Grace:
What about that rope, Sheryl McCollum.
SHERYL MCCOLLUM: Nancy, they`re — let`s say the rope was a 15-foot rope in the package that Tommy had in his house, and there`s five foot missing from it, and that`s the exact same link they found and pulled from the river, same color, same make, same width. That`s pretty good evidence to me. He described it to grandma. He led them to it.
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It was easily taken as fact but Sheryl did say –lets say
Chakra Yea,you know you can tell he is which is why i wonder why he didn’t fly home when she didn’t answer the phone,you know what he was thinking?
right Hope,from the “lets say”
CathyJo- LMAO – its true though I’m surprised Misty has not tried to make a deal but her court date is June 3 I believe, maybe she will before, I hope she spills everything on Ronald
All these “facts” we know so far adds up to everyone is involved in Haleigh’s demise, in some manner. The “who did what” is hard to sort out with so many individuals involved. Therfore even after things are sorted out, they may not be 100 % accurate, but it will be the most plausable. Whenever Drugs are involved – murder, weapons, accide
ntal death, pedophelia, theft, physical and emotional abuse, etc., always becomes part of the scenario to one degree or another. Who can truly “understand” what these people are thinking while they are under the influence?
The whole of the matter is this: No matter who did what, a child has suffered at the hands of these people. They are all involved.
And the taxpayers are having to the burden the responsiblity. I wish someone would reevaluate the “justice” system”. The cost of LE, Investigations, Lawyers and their fees, judges, appeals, secretaries, paperwork, not to mention the cost associated with jail times, are all paid for by our Tax monies- Meanwhile our schools are closing, hard working seniors are getting the “social security shaft”.
People need to go back and look at God handled criminals in Isreal and use his “example” as a model. Of course we couldn’t use the Urim and the Thumim, the way High Priests did, but rather the way the way these criminals were treated – it was no “free ride” and justice was swiftly served.
Our Constitution provides for the right to “a fair trial” not “multiple appeals”. Criminals were required to work to pay for their expenses.
Most multiple offenders are not rehabiliatatble with a few exeptions. I believe that given right circumstances a person can change if they wanted to. In this particular case, I believe LE is wasting valuable time and resources. At this point, everyone is pointing the finger at everybody else. We know what they are, just “get rid of them all” and the many like them- society will be better off in every way .
Lord yes Chakra,she sure has been quiet??
If ron did it i hope so too,just never knnow what to think anymore! almost 2 yrs to find her,boils my blood~
CathyJo Great Point- Ronald even takes another shift at work that baffles me in any of the sceanarios
it took me 2 yrs to see a tiny..really tiny piece of justice for my husband!
right,while thinking no doubt she’s with that guy!
brb tuck my little man in.lol
Pray4,
Maybe they should all be sent to an Island where there is no escape from. Given tons of drugs where they can get stoned 24/7. If they are hungry they can fish or hunt. Make sure they all have guns to shoot each other with, but maybe for food instead of drugs since they will be amply supplied with those. It won’t cost the taxpayers too much and they will be in their glory.
escape from new york was a good movie..
Sorry just got carried away with that last one.
Pray4ourchildren-
I agree everyone involved is at least a little bit guilty and I believe thats also why they are not talking.
and yes I live in Florida so I feel the tax payer part- I don’t even want to think about how much Casey’s trial is gonna cost us
CathyJo- I’m so sorry you had to wait that long for justice-thats horrible
Mary,I say send em all to Alcatraz,fill the water with the worlds deadliest creatures,the land with deadliest snakes and animals…no food….and lettem fight to the death!
Chakara,Thank you.I appreciate that..honest!
6 months in co. jail for premeditated murder!
Justice imo stinks! and it also equals who has the most money.in my husbands case i know it was?
OMG,Chakra…We could live on that amount for centuries and probably just with what 1 day of it costs!
oh and too Chakra,I’d forgot he went in early?
brb Dakotas hollering,lol
CathyJo- I agree the justice system is a joke every case is always pled down and the family is left with feeling like there loved ones life didn’t matter , its so sad
The possibilities of what has happened to young HaLeigh is scary in my mind. These people are not rocket scientists but seem to be able confuse LE. Is society at the point we’re so ready to financially help (that’s a good thing) that we’re taken advantage of because of greed? In the future will it make us think twice before before helping a family of a missing child? YES it will happen again. HaLeigh’s name has been desecrated by her own family and the Croslins and she was only 5 years old at the time she disappeared. She’s not going to graduate kindergarden, go to a high school prom or go to college. But only thing these players seem to concentrate on is getting a DEAL for the less amount of sentence. I hope everyone who had anything to do with her disappearance Pays!!!!!!!! No innocent child should pay for the sins of the adults in her life.
Great Post Judithan I agree!!!
Goodnight All- see yall tomorrow!
When the state police investigator assigned to bird dog Misty Croslin and her family showed up at their home in Satsuma, Florida Tuesday, her sister in law, Lindsay Croslin, recognized FDLE agent Jason Jolicoeur immediately and cracked up laughing.
“I said, ‘You look kinda funny with a bulletproof vest on, you’re usually dressed in such nice clothes,’” Lindsay Croslin tells The Bald Truth in an exclusive interview. “I was trying to make a joke out of it.”
Only the agent wasn’t laughing, said Lindsay, a recent nursing school graduate, mother of three and wife of Misty’s brother, Tommy. “He said, ‘Is Hank here?’ So I turned around and said, ‘Hank, Jason wants to talk to you,’ and the next thing I hear is Hank saying, ‘Are you arresting me?’”
As the agent cuffed Hank Thomas Croslin, Sr., 41, and lead the patriarch of the tight-knit family away, another agent pulled Lindsay aside, no longer hiding law enforcement strategy, and read her the riot act: that the Croslins would keep feeling a world of hurt as long as Misty failed to cooperate.
Law enforcement maintains she knows more than she’s revealed, and that her conflicting stories have yet to be resolved. Misty maintains her innocence.
“She let me know, that as Misty’s family, we’re the target,” said Lindsay. “She said, ‘I want to tell you, we are not going away. Everything will just get worse. We are on a high profile case and we are not going away.”
“She threatened to keep arresting everyone in the family, then start taking the children away,” said Chelsea Croslin, who has moved to Massachussetts with Misty’s other brother, Timmie, and also maintains the family knows nothing and had nothing to do with Haleigh gone missing. “They need to start looking at the parents again,” she said, referring to Ronald Cummings and Crystal Sheffield. Both have been cleared by detectives, sources say, but both families, and certainly the ex-inlaws, have drug issues in common.
Haleigh’s brother, Junior, now lives with his father; his mother, Crystal, was fighting for custody, until her former attorney, Kim Picazio, said she advised her clients going forward would be unwise, and unethical, after learning in June that Crystal had an on-going prescription drug problem, including a baby named Chloe, born with painkillers in her system. It’s all in Picazio’s response to her former clients bar complaint, thrown out by the Florida Bar Association after an investigation found the complaint frivolous and riddled with falsehoods. Case closed.
Since Misty reported Haleigh missing in Feb., then married and divorced her father, Ronald has gone to jail for fighting, and several Croslins have gone to jail, as well. After police stopped playing their strategy cards close to the vest, they declared their focus to be on Misty and those close to her.
Some say focus is the wrong word. War would be more like it, as police have mounted a quiet, full court press, from Florida to Massachussetts, to Tennessee, where a Croslin cousin lives who was in town the weekend Haleigh vanished, but has not been named as a person of interest so far.
The subsequent string of arrests and charges against the Croslins include Tommy for gun theft; his mother, Lisa, spent several weeks in jail for allegedly forging checks before she bonded out; Tommy again for drug possession after he was found passed out in his car shortly after dropping his son off at the school bus stop several weeks ago, and police found several narcotics in the car, from methadone to oxycodone, that Tommy claimed belonged to his father. That time, he spent the night in jail, charged with possession of prescription drugs.
Sources tell me that investigators notified child welfare workers and a case for possible child endangerment was opened on Tommy; Lindsay says welfare workers stopped by to check on the children and seemed satisified they were safe and well cared for. “I’m not sure where that stands,” said Lindsay.
Then there was the injunction for domestic violence that ordered Tommy to stay away from Misty–until she asked a local judge to drop it so she could go home last week. She’s had no place to live, and the family tells me they are thrilled to have her back, along with another party friend who has moved in, too: Kristina Prevatt, aka Nay Nay, who drove Misty on a wild weekend before Haleigh vanished.
After his arrest on gun theft charges, Tommy was held on a whopping $50,000 bond, and released only after revealing for the first time he’d stopped by Ronald’s trailer at 10 p.m. on the night Haleigh vanished, banged on the door and no one answered. He said no lights were on, and no one appeared to be home. But Misty maintained she was there, just sleeping hard after several days of partying. She later said Tommy was lying, probably to get out of jail.
“They must think if they put enough pressure on us, we’ll force Misty into telling what happened to Haleigh,” Lindsay told me. “But we don’t know and I don’t believe she knows anything, either. She’s saying, ‘When all this is over, they are going to know the truth and owe me an apology.’”
The Putnam County Sheriff’s Department denied a direct link between Hank Croslin’s arrest for allegedly concealing prescription information from three doctors so he could obtain more pain meds from another was “related to the disappearance of Haleigh Cummings,” in a press release Wednesday, adding investigators had discovered leads to Hank Sr.’s illegal quest for prescription narcotics while investigating what happened to Haleigh. She was last seen by his daughter, Misty, when she was babysitting for Ronald Cummings last Feb.10 and reported the child missing.
Police insist her conflicting stories have yet to be resolved and that she will remain under their microscope until they can rule her out as a suspect, like they did her now ex husband, Ronald, and Haleigh’s mother, Crystal Sheffield.
Meanwhile, detectives in the Haleigh Cummings investigation plan to grill Hank Croslin Sr. while he’s in jail, “to determine if he has any knowledge of the events that took place the night Haleigh Cummings went missing,” according to a statement issued Wednesday by the Putnam County Sheriff’s Department.
“As we have previously reported,” said Lt. Johnny Greenwood, “there are inconsistencies in Misty Croslin’s account of the evening that still need clarification. Investigators have interviewed other family members subsequent to their arrest, or during the course of this investigation, who have also been unable to clarify the events leading up to Haleigh Cummings’ disappearance.”
He had no comment on what police learned, if anything, from talking with Hank. Sr.
But the drug investigation “revealed that Croslin obtained approximately 300 Oxycodone and Hydrocodone pills from three different physicians between April and May 2009. None of the prescribing doctors were aware that the others had prescribed the controlled substances. This practice is known as doctor shopping, a third-degree felony” according to the FDLE release.
But in an exclusive interview with The Bald Truth two weeks ago, Misty’s father said he believed Misty was innocent, although her mother expressed doubts in a television interview that she might know more than she’s revealing.
And just where was Hank, Sr. the night Haleigh vanished? In a Gainesville, Florida hospital, with his wife, Lisa, by his side, after suffering severe back and leg injuries from a hit and run by a driver with no insurance, said Lindsay. “He’s been in tremendous pain ever since and has been taking medication for that,” said Lindsay.”
“How could he possibly get to the crime scene and hop back in bed like that?” scoffed Chelsea Croslin, “unless he was some magic man.”
His family denies he was doctor shopping and said that physicians with the Family Medical Group in Palatka, referred him to a pain clinic in Gainesville, and that the doctors all knew what he was taking “because they had prescribed it,” said Chelsea. Clinic doctors could not be reached for comment.
“If he did anything, he had no idea it was illegal,” said Lindsay. “He can’t read or write, so anything he may have signed with doctors, he didn’t know what it was.”
Fuming that the arrest happened two days ago and it was a long shot whether they could raise enough money to bond Hank out by Thanksgiving, Lindsay said, “I’m pissed off. I have three children, I’m a good mother, just finished nursing school, don’t do anything wrong. I take my state test in two weeks. I don’t want this to ruin me. I’m not a bad person.
“But it’s making us all look bad. I don’t know what to do, except I do know we will stick by each other because we are a family. We had nothing to do with this. We are not killers. We are not bad people.”
With Tommy Croslin now repeating the family mantra, that a Tennessee cousin killed missing Haleigh Cummings—and “needs to pay” for what he did—The Bald Truth has learned exclusive new details about conflicts that remain between his story, and sister, then babysitter Misty Croslin –and will have to be resolved before a strong case can be made against anyone for the child’s murder.
As for conflicts in his story, Tommy now claims Joe was there not to steal Ronald’s prized assault rifle, but to borrow it to go deer hunting at night, and when it wasn’t there, went wild and killed Haleigh, according to his lawyer, James Werter, who offers more details tonight on the Nancy Grace Show.
Only other sources close to the case tell The Bald Truth Misty Croslin, the babysitter who reported the missing child, admits she was part of a plot to steal a rifle Ronald had shown off over beer a few days earlier when Tommy and cousin Joe Overstreet dropped over to see the gun collection.
–> With Ronald’s penchant for gunplay, at times putting the barrel in his mouth around ex-girlfriends and his own children and threatening suicide– and later murder, if he learned who snatched his five year old – his then 17 year old girlfriend had every reason to want the gun out of the house.
That Sunday night, she’d just returned from a three day revenge romance with a light-skinned African American, and had stayed up all night with Ronald, talking over their differences, oversleeping and making Haleigh late for school Monday morning, my sources tell me.
“She didn’t want Ronald’s guns around; and had every reason to believe he’d kill her,” says a source.
Only she didn’t know he’d taken the guns out of the trailer, when she gave the all-clear to brother Tommy and cousin Joe Overstreet, who came over when Ronald was at work that night, with plans to steal the gun, sell it and split the proceeds with Misty. Had Ronald learned she was part of the conspiracy, sources tell me Misty believed she wouldn’t be long for this world.
Where do we get Steve Brown said we would be shocked? Someone make that up? He said nobody would be shocked. Nobody would be surprised.
Why are we posting what Art Harris writes on this website? I do not find him to be anything but sensationalist making a living off Haleigh and saying Art Harris dot come every other breath. Why do they paint him so orange and why does he put up with it? Does he actually do that himself?
The only person getting a deal I have read is Ron Cummings so what is so bad about that if he had nothing to do with her going missing and being killed? If he did then the deal does not matter cause he will go away for her death. I do not see Tommy and Misty getting a deal.
I think nancy means exclusive to her show and prob not for the day, i mean some people prob only watch her show for these cases.
and i dont see anybody getting 120 years or whatever years they said misty is facing for drugs, no way, of course they will get 15 years too.
2 years.
Maybe there are such things as perfect murder, and, naturally, we just never hear about them.
I say this only because sometimes it enters my mind that this mystery may in fact Never be solved.
signed, Debbie Downer
Motive: Revenge
Amber hated Misty for saying she had her man and was gonna soon have her son. Ambers mother beat up Misty. Chelsea beat up Ambers mother for beating up Misty.
Amber was good friends with Nay Nay. Amber complained to Nay Nay. Nay Nay understood because some other woman had her 9 month old kid too with her ex old man. They were both in the same situation. Nay Nay attempted to steal her 9 mo. old, but that didn’t work.
Two very angry and revengeful women. Amber was angry that Ron was providing for Misty and his kids. Angry that he did nothing for Jordan. Misty spited her to her face. Amber’s mother had it out for Misty. She wanted revenge too. Nay Nay, a strung out druggie, angry that some other woman was holding her 9 mo. old and tried to abduct him.
Rumor has it that NayNay made the effort to take Misty partying and meet WBG, so that Ron would find out and get rid of her. Rumor is that her and Amber planned it. Is it possible that NayNay did this to get her all f’d up, so that someone could take Haleigh to ‘teach Misty a lesson’ and to ‘hurt Ron’? I say yes, it is very possible. Then seeing that the plan wasn’t working (Ron married misty), she decides to write a letter from jail and throw misty under the bus even more.
Anyway, maybe this is where she lost her keys…when she was doing her dirty deeds. I think she was fooling around with Tommy that night (Lyndsy found out) and that her and Tommy could of been the ones in that van that night.?
Of course, all of this is just a theory, but at this point, that’s what all of it is anyway with everyone.
hi Cathy Jo, I enjoyed reading your 12:27 am commentary, thanks for posting it!
If Cousin Joe is so crazy and scary wouldn’t he have assaulted someone by now and been arrested. We’ve heard nothing about him except for the stuff he did as a juvenile. Even with that he didn’t get away with it but got shot in the wrist.
I heard ney ney say on video, that Ron wanted MC to get home, and bring a condom. Now I think Rons intent was to rape her, teach her a lesson. Then I recall a letter MC wrote to some friend while she has been in jail. And I wonder she mentions someone raping her.. I think she is talking about Ron. ????
OH, and JenM, that’s a really good theory. Something I’ve never heard anyone mention in such a detailed way. I’ve also speculated about Tommy and NayNay since she was the only one outside family who knew where Ron lived, did move in with the whole Croslin Clan, and was a drug user. I don’t think Lindsay would divorce over all this, but would for Tommy cheating right under her nose and maybe sneaking out at night.
I’m thinking that the police found nothing of relavence in the lastest search of the river. It was just another lie by the ex-bride and her brother to take the pressure off them by the police. They should charge them with giving false information. As far as the father’s plea attempt at a plea deal , I’ve heard that he wants to drop the two major drug counts with the mandatory minimum sentence of 25 years each for the four lesser charges with the mandatory minimum of 15 years for each count. He wants 45 years in exchange for his testimony against the others or snitching on all the drug dealers he knows. There’s no way he’s going to get 5 years and probation.
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I find it appauling, that the state would take all those in jails,word against the youngest in the drug trade,an is a newbe to the criminal system(has no record).
An allow them to make plea deals,against Misty.So that they can get time knocked off their sentences.When they from prier arrest knew better., DOING THIS JUST-To sucure a convection against her,an they already have proof,by way of uc tapes,now on video.To me it show that repeat offenders get a slap on the wrist,or know how to work the system.Verses a first time offender.
Reason being,Misty is the youngest of the group/hers being learned behavior..Now Ronald has been involved in the drug trade,for a long time(see record),Misty did not lead him to this lifestyle,he was already in it,yr before this arrest.As she followed suit,behind the older ones.
Donna Brock a Ex TES searcher at age 44(said to be dr shopping)Who is suppose at her age,an the field she was in,should have known better.
Tommy has a few theift charges pending,an a record as well,(may have drug arrest,dont remember).
It offends me mentaly when people want me to see her a a ring leader,an is the reason these people are in trouble(they could say, it was her new uc friend,her fault).When they have been doing these things for yrs,before this one arrest.Why would the state,or the people even think this is ok to do….Amazing!!!.
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Joe, not arrested in this drug bust(but said to be into drugs,animal cruilty,molester/not regestered)his stats say (high) on his old web page.He is one for every one to back,an say no hes not involved,hhe was hanging out with them wasnt while there lol.Any one who could steal a car.,is really,on the criminal level(however thats not murder).
Its not like stealing dish detergent,towels,an video games.Stealing a car,one has elivated to biger crime level.Now to me the sin of stealing is the same,but in the criminal system,Car theifts out rank petty thefts.
On the Haliegh case.If Misty pointed at Joe,an Tommy,as being involved.
Many refused to belive Tommy was.But because he was pressured into,an failed the LDT.So now by his own admittence,an confession,he was involved.In Halieghs dissapearence.
Therefore proving Misty was telling the truth about his involvement.
So with now knowing one of the 2 she implicated has confessed.Why is it SO hard for many to believe that Joe could also involved???
We now have Tommy also placing Joe there.That makes 2 people placing Joe as having involvment,an being at the moble home when HALIEGH WENT MISSING.
Joe has a attorny,The most LE could do,at this point,is take him in for up to 48 hr on some kind of hold.An if they do not have evidence to charge him as of yet.The state will have to release him(That a wate of time,an money).He can always if placed in on hold ,invoke his rights not to speak,with his Attorny backing thisLe gets nothing out of him.
SO I do believe the state is waiting untill they have enough,to get an inditement ,an he will also be arrested,an charged as being a part of Haliegh going missing.If the atae can place him the (whitness) (prove time line,where abouts)(An eveidence pointing to him)Then an arrest can be made,an it would not be wasting money to extradite, him to Fla.
At this time many say well why dont they bust him,an bring him in.He lives out of State for one,they may have someone watching him.But its not as easy when hes not in the state of Fla,(Putnam county.)Im quite sure he has be advised by his Attorny to stear clear of getting in trouble at this time,therefor avoiding any kind of drug arrest,or any other.
Sherriff Hardy cant just gallop down to Tenn.an drag him in,if he doesnt have anything as of yet to arrest him on.They are listening,an waiting,an watching,an waiting on that one thing that the state will agree to arrest him/for involvment
The reason the 2 jailed,are involving Joe because they know he to was there,an they are thinking hey!! if were going down so is cousin Joe!!!
An even then,if Its proven Misty didnt murder,Haliegh,im speaking only of who murdered her..I wonder how many will still say/think she did?????
And by chance all of these people lied,an it was someone else all together.I hope they go after the one who commited the crime
Awaiting charges to be brought,an truth to be sent out through evidence.Haliegh deserves a final resting place,even with out a body.If she truly is deceaced.
I liked the theory of NayNay and her mother. This makes sense. I also think that the theory Ron killed Haleigh is also very credible. Misty- I don’t think she killed Haleigh. I do believe she knows more than she is telling. There won’t be justice for Haleigh. Haleigh is dead. Her murderer is alive and well, either running free or locked up in the jail. They won’t “pay the price” Haleigh did. Life is priceless. They won’t pay the price the taxpayers will have to defend them and incarcerate them. So, where is the justice?
Two things occur to me in view of the recent “news”.
1) If Ron does (or has) take a plea deal to testify against the others, then there is no doubt that he knew nothing about the disappearance. The others would be falling all over themselves to squeal on him in retribution.
2) How can there be so little actual evidence found? Not only are the players in this case not the brightest but they were doing lots of drugs on top of it. I don’t see how they could have covered their tracks so well that nothing can be found.
I first heard about the divorce on NG show. HATE NG but where else do I go to get current up to date information?? It appears, blogs contain nothing but theories. Tired of reading theories, so I tune into NG as my only option.
I do have a question though…besides DB being MIA, where are Misty’s parents at?? How come we haven’t heard from them hillbillies??
The more I hear about this family the more I feel that Misty never had a chance. According To Flo, her parents were crackheads and would take off for weeks at a time abandoning them. Misty was left to her own devices which led her to Ronald. She was obviously looking for someone to love her. I do NOT condone what she did or is doing but I can see how this all happened and I blame her parents.
Also, I wonder if it was her father who raped her since I heard she was a runaway
Tommy, on the other hand did find a girl who seemed to be decent and tried to give him a good life and he blew it. She is now an idiot for lying for him but I think she is the most sane of the bunch
P4OC: Your logic with Justice is IMO right on in reference to HaLeigh. I feel that the drug case/charges were a diversion to try and obtain info on HaLeigh’s disappearance. I’m not sure that LE will ever get the true story or that HaLeigh will ever receive the justice that she deserves. All anyone can do at this point is hope that LE has been diligent and has been able to sort through all of this mess and come up with the answers that this little girl deserves.
A big THANK YOU to Simon, the voice of reason!
I’m not sure I can join the poor misty club on the drug charges. How do we know she wasn’t offered a deal for testimony, like ron, and turned it down. I don’t think we know that at all, either way.
She may have no record, and if so, then she should get a sentence that goes by state guidelines and precedents.
But, if you think this is the first time she’s trafficked, or underage drank, or smoked/bought weed, stole something, etc….you would have to be naïve.
Its not tommy nor rons first go around either. They should all be treated the same and adjudicated fairly and sentenced fairly.
They just happened to get caught this time.
In total, things will shake out like they should, all things considered.
BOLDONE3: If DB is Donna Brock she isn’t MIA, she’s sitting in StJohn’s Jail waiting for her court date. She just hasn’t been involved in any deal breaking news.
Talk has been that Misty’s attorney had asked Misty and her family to limit their communication because of the media coverage. That was a few weeks ago. At least, that was the talk. No real confirmation that I was aware of.
Tommy’s Lawyer SAYS one thing about the murder, not tommy.
Flora hollers has said something she SAYS misty told her.
That don’t make them facts. We’ll see where LE goes from here.
I do see the plausibilty with the nay nay / amber angle. Well done and well thought out!!
jaba: I totally agree with your views on all mentioned above. You seem to be right on there.
I’m not one to hold pity parties for this bunch either. They should get exactly what they deserve according to the guidelines.
Thanks
thanks stillucy
Lucy,
As a human, at its core, I feel for them. I don’t want to see humans suffer whether its the person or their family.
But, and a big butt,:), people need to PAY fro their crimes against society.
I don’t agree with all laws about everything, but 99% of them I do. And how America deals out justice is using the best system in the world. Not perfect, but the best.
I don’t get any slack for doing 50 in a school zonw, and I shouldn’t. I could kill a child with that kind of behavior. Doesn’t make me satan, but I do owe society a fine and to stop that behavior.
The guilty need to accept their punishment, whether they had a chance in life, as we perceive it, or not.
The players here knew right from wrong, misty said it in one of the videos, even.
Pay to play, is the way!
they were SET UP and entrapped by LE!!
the sheriff’s son was arrested after one buy but the UCers arranged several buys with misty and her posse to raise the penalty..thats BOGUS!
LE couldn’t find their own arses with a roadmap!
Of course, one wonders why he would ‘cop a plea’ if he was innocent?
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Innocent of what? Dealing? It’s very common to have anyone accused of anything to plead not guilty..however IMO Ron has had a changed of heart in the form of justice for haleigh after hearing the b.s come out Mistys’ mouth from behind bars. Also, if I’m going to be totally honest in my opinion. Ron and any other of the druggies arrested would also do anything to get out as soon as possible to get on with their infested lives.
If you don’t have any news why don’t you just puke up a bunch of baseless speculation? Isn’t that all you are really doing here anyway?
I also wondered why NO WORD on good ol Donna! Is it because the media feels nobody cares about her because she had nothing to do with haleigh and that she is not a possible suspect or poi? We are all hoping the incarcerated that were in the MH that night haleigh went missing will crack and we’ll find haleigh. Donna doesn’t know what happened to haleigh so why do we care what is going on with her! I think that might be a huge part of it but what else could be going on with her? I dunno!
They have lawyers to test that entrapment theory.
I wonder why ron isn’t going that route?
Probably cuz he’s guilty and so was hope, and so is tommy and guess what, so is misty. Stay tuned:)
JAY…YOU got something to add?
IMHO…none of this is baseless..we have very little to go on…HALEIGH IS MISSING!!! We need to keep her case alive…if nothing else..
Jay…puke away, you’ve got the ball, pal;)
When you run out of ideas, attack others. Predictable and boring…not shocking anymore.
Supposedly, Donna had tapes from her little escapades with Misty, whatever happened to those? If there was any truth to that, I would have expected LE to have gotten their hands on them while she’s been incarcerated, legally of course, search warrants. That is, if there was any truth to that rumor.
Has anyone heard who may be on Simon/Jan’s show today?
Yep, donna brock, she had good intentions I guess but man o’ man did that backfire. You think she wants a do-over on her role in all this?
I wonder why ron tipped misty to her? For the dealing or for the disappearance? We may never know.
Does anyone know what Ron was doing or who he was with on those days that Misty was out partying with Nay Nay and WBG?
jaba & CA: Sometimes it’s best to “scroll down” IMO only………..Some are always looking for a battle and not a discussion of opinions and facts. Keep up the good work! Information is power!
stilllucy…your so right…CA has a hard time with stupidity..lmao
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jaba said,
in May 16th, 2010 at 9:09 am
Yep, donna brock, she had good intentions I guess but man o’ man did that backfire. You think she wants a do-over on her role in all
this?
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A DO OVER…YOU BET YOUR BOOTY SHE PROB. DOES..that was funny..
Good morning everyone,
IMO Amber and Nay Nay are involved in HaLeighs abduction along with quite a few others.
It was a shame that the San Mateo area was not properly handled and LE called. I have no idea why the Sheffield would contaminate a place they felt held clues (HaLeigh’s scent on items found)to HaLeigh’s abduction and IMO knew involved Nay Nay and Amber.
I have considered that the Sheffields intentional contaminated that evidence to solve the possible link that connects them all to one another and HaLeigh’s abduction. IMO it did show the Sheffields did have a personal agenda and it was not to find HaLeigh, but, to destroy any evidence that may help HaLeigh to be found.
I hope we hear something from donnas time with the ‘pill-in-the wall gang’
I bet that would be a stunning enlightenment in to their world.
Debber: From what I recall, stories have changed so much and it’s been awhile, Ron was being the “dutiful father”. He had been off from work and taking care of his kids in his drug riddled home environment. I believe he had even had visitors, Tommy and Joe had came by to have a few beers and check out his arsenal. That’s all I remember. Most of this info had been provided by Ron’s supportive family members, Teresa and GM Sykes.
Sorry for the sarcasm. It slips out sometimes when I think of the environment that those children were forced to live in. IMO
So if tommy says he knows joe did it and he was there as was misty, how do the sheffields even matter at this point, to the heart of the case?
Their search was odd to say the least.
I’m still looking for some cobra thoughts or writings about that search. Anyone have info on that?
ALL of NG’s ‘bombshells’ are older than an aged ham. She is nothing but an actress!
My fav time is when Nancy is showing her horns, snarling her face and getting on a guest, then, takes a female phone call(is there any other on that show?) And when they prasie her kids and her, she melts. Its such an abrupt change.
Jaba
The story is BS and has been since it began almost 15 months ago. IMO the abductors motive was to take the child/children that evening nothing else.
I still say TC told the story right the 1st time, when he said he went by the trailer that night and no one was there. He got a call from Ron at 9:00 (according to Ron) asking Tommy if Misty was over there because she wasn’t answering her phone. I think Tommy saw this as the perfect opportunity to get into the mobile home to steal guns, drugs, what have you. Something occured (won’t speculate what), and Haleigh dies. Tommy freaks. Lindsy is due home from school soon, and he can’t leave the body with physical evidence tying her to him…what to do? Stash Haleigh’s body in the dumpster the cadaver dogs hit on and plan to go back for it after Lindsy goes to sleep. Misty comes home, finds Haleigh missing and starts calling family like crazy (calls back this up). After Lindsy falls asleep, Tommy maybe calls Timmy’s house to get help with the body, and that’s where Joe (or Timmy!) comes into the picture.
The blankets are still a mystery to me. The only way I can fit that in is if Misty came home and caught Tommy in the act and decided to help cover for him.
Good Lord,can we finally put the fake search nonsense to rest?
There was no “fake search”. It was a hastily put together search by a desperate family looking for any clues that might lead to their loved one. It came about because a psychic suggested they search the area.
Paranoid thinking and the gossip mill turned it into an internet legend.
The Sheffield/Griffis family had absolutely nothing to do with HaLeigh’s disappearance. It is time to stop smearing this family.
I don’t for one minute believe that Haleigh was murdered out of anger. I think she was accidentally killed in the commision of another crime ( molestation and suffocation comes to mind…ugh…hate to type that). No one went on any crazed rampage, though. I can almost guarantee you that.
What sucks is, we may never know for sure. After this whole group goes to prison, the Haleigh part of the case will fade. Sadly.
I don’t see misty and tommy blaming joe if the sheffields are involved…even with the brain fried bunch we are dealing with!
let’s go to the phones..
“hello nancy? Im sweetollady from pasadena and Im 180 yrs old, love your show, and your little girls, my, they are just precious….and
Nancy…thanks dear whats your question
lilollady..”well, I got ta thinkin o’ver some bisqueets, and was wantin ta know if they ever found out..well geez I gorgotten what I was gona ta say…Oh I know, why did the police say it was that sweet girls bones in that water?
nancy: great question, lets unleash the lawyers
Nancy next caller…
mans voice..Nancy you’re a bitch
Nnacy:..click
I don’t particulary care for the Cummings or Sheffield families, but I don’t think any of them had anything at all to do with what happened to Haleigh. Not directly anyway. Did they contribute to the negligence and home environment that helped set up events? You bet. But I just don’t believe ANY of them had a hand in what happened that night.
Truthbe,
Then the writeintoaction guy has it all wrong?
Have you seen or can you point me to cobras take on the search etc…? I’d like to see or hear what he says. Sounds like a real trip.
truth be told said,in May Th, 2010 at 9:55 am Good Lord,can we finally put the fake search nonsense to rest?
There was no “fake search”. It was a hastily put together search by a desperate family looking for any clues that might lead to their loved one. It came about because a psychic suggested they search the area.
Paranoid thinking and the gossip mill turned it into an Internet legend.
The Sheffield/Griffis family had absolutely nothing to do with HaLeigh’s disappearance. It is time to stop smearing this family.
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I will gladly lay it to rest when we see the evidence that proves other wise an arrests are made. IMO it is still is a major red flag when you consider who was there that particular day.
Marty is ex police and John Regan claims to be undercover and Cobra is a Bounty Hunter/ Bail bonds man and if HaLeigh’s scent was found on item of interest than police should of been called immediately. Fake means it never happened and I know and everyone else knows it did too. I do not consider it fake, but, obstructing the truth.
truthbetold,
The “gossip mill” is what started the circus and if I am not correct it has a name and it is MG.
NG: leave up judiche, I want to see his face when he tells me someone may be innocent. Raymond judiche, from wherever town, usa, is that all you have? Maybe they didn’t do it? Unbelievable.
Judiche: all I said nancy is that maybe the 20 year old girl didn’t throw a 4,000 pound car on top of her roommate.
NG: typical law-yer. Second verse same as the first.
Bombshell to-never
Guns, drugs, sex, anger, not a good mix. How does Ron keep guns in his home with young children? That in itself is a grave danger to them. Pills possibly laying around, how risky is that? Teenage babysitter doing drugs with relative while watching the kids…pathetic. A neighborhood filled with SO’s and drug addicts. As far as motives it’s true you have a whole lot of adversary’s doing drugs with major issues, Amber, Crystal, Tommy, Joe, drug dealers, SO’s. Could have been an accident or intentional. It’s any wonder this poor child is missing or murdered, the odds were not in her favor.
The best guest nancy grace has is the lady lawyer who is a child advocate. The one the rhymes a lot and speaks in the most annoying tone. Imagine her boyfriend or husband forgetting a special occasion. It would not be pretty.:)
She is hardcore against child predators though. She rocks that point of view like no other!
lol@jaba
Can anyone tell me if Donald Sapp is a relative to any of the three families–Sheffield, Croslin, Cummings? Have you noticed his picture on the Florida Sex Offender List. He looks scary. I know he insinuated himself by trying to donate furniture to the Haleighbug Foundation and was ultimately the reason Cobra had to leave the case. Did he have an alibi or has anyone heard? Any information that you have would be appreciated or just point me in the right direction. I know he just got a slap on the wrist for his recent crimes which is deplorable, but this guy has all kinds of red flags pointing in his direction.
jaba: Sue Moss, I agree.
robin said,
in May 16th, 2010 at 10:52 am
Can anyone tell me if Donald Sapp is a relative to any of the three families–Sheffield, Croslin, Cummings? Have you noticed his picture on the Florida Sex Offender List. He looks scary. I know he insinuated himself by trying to donate furniture to the Haleighbug Foundation and was ultimately the reason Cobra had to leave the case. Did he have an alibi or has anyone heard? Any information that you have would be appreciated or just point me in the right direction. I know he just got a slap on the wrist for his recent crimes which is deplorable, but this guy has all kinds of red flags pointing in his direction.
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Donald Sapp wasn’t the one that tried to donate furniture, that was Snodgrass. As far as I know Sapp is kin to no one except he lived lived Billye Griffis who’s husband had just been killed in a car accident. Lindsy’s grandfather is a Sapp but not kin to Donald Sapp
maryd said,
in May 16th, 2010 at 10:13 am
Guns, drugs, sex, anger, not a good mix. How does Ron keep guns in his home with young children? That in itself is a grave danger to them. Pills possibly laying around, how risky is that? Teenage babysitter doing drugs with relative while watching the kids…pathetic. A neighborhood filled with SO’s and drug addicts. As far as motives it’s true you have a whole lot of adversary’s doing drugs with major issues, Amber, Crystal, Tommy, Joe, drug dealers, SO’s. Could have been an accident or intentional. It’s any wonder this poor child is missing or murdered, the odds were not in her favor.
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Not against the law to have guns in a house with kids. Mine knew not to touch the guns. Millions of gun owners also have kids.
As far as pills lying around, I seriously doubt that, that was from Chelsea and the Croslins are not a bastion of the truth.
Regardless…guns are dangerous in the presence of children ..however I do agree..THERE WEREN’T ANY PILLS LYING AROUND IMO.
Druggies know where their stash is and every pill is accounted for. Counted and re counted..
vaquera: Those are probably the most “factual” statements to date. Concerning your comments about the Croslin family and guns in the home.
Drug addicts don’t leave their drugs just laying around everywhere. ESPECIALLY not when they hang with other thieving drug addicts. If there were drugs in that house (and I’m SURE there were), they were hidden.
vaquera said,
in May 16th, 2010 at 11:25 am
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Not against the law to have guns in a house with kids. Mine knew not to touch the guns. Millions of gun owners also have kids.
As far as pills lying around, I seriously doubt that, that was from Chelsea and the Croslins are not a bastion of the truth.
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May not be against the law V, but doesn’t make it less dangerous. Especially when the bearers are indulging in drugs too. I doubt a child of 4 or 6 can be trusted to not touch something because they were told not to. Did Ronald have a license for these guns? If not that is against the law. I guess I may disagree with millions of gun owners who have guns and kids in their homes. JMO. It depends on the person and the chances they are willing to take.
I as a Canadian have fared quite well NOT having a gun in my house and IMO my children are safer for it…JMO no disrespect intended to anyone who has guns..
I can totally see Kevin Federline as Ronald Cummings and Lindsay Lohan as Misty Croslin in the made for t.v. movie.
I have to side with maryd!!!
yellow meat – ( ewww btw)
I can see that!
theres a guy who lives near us we see all the time …REMINDS ME OF RONALD CUMMINGS…wonder what he would think if he knew that??? LOL
truthbetold said,in May 16th, 2010 at 9:55 am Good Lord,can we finally put the fake search nonsense to rest?
There was no “fake search”. It was a hastily put together search by a desperate family looking for any clues that might lead to their loved one. It came about because a psychic suggested they search the area.
Paranoid thinking and the gossip mill turned it into an internet legend.
The Sheffield/Griffis family had absolutely nothing to do with HaLeigh’s disappearance. It is time to stop smearing this family.
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Thank you! That was perpetuated by crayon boy himself, and the sheet that was found was so old it had roots growing thru it. I agree it was a search put together on a whim, but they were so desperate to find HaLeigh they were grasping at anythin they could, which is alot more than I can say about the Cummings/Croslins who have done anything and everything to try and distance themselves from this crime, but thank God the LE sees straight thru them and didn’t fall for the ” Sheffield family is hiding her and PCSO is helping” BS!
Most responsible gun owners make sure children can not access the guns in the home. No need to villify those of us who own guns and take every precaution when it comes to gun safety, simply because some idiots don’t. Just sayin’.
CA,
I guess that at least makes us 2 of millions. lol
C~A said,in May 16th, 2010 at 11:34 am Regardless…guns are dangerous in the presence of children ..however I do agree..THERE WEREN’T ANY PILLS LYING AROUND IMO.
Druggies know where their stash is and every pill is accounted for. Counted and re counted..
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The theory behind that makes sense, however I have had a druggie in my family that I wouldn’t allow to visit because once they were Fu’d up they were extremely careless and I can’t tell you how many times I found oxy’s and xanax on the floor, counter etc. Needless to say there visits were cut off ASAP due to the danger it posed to my children.
kc…think we made that point already..tks
Most…but not all is the point! IMO the gun law in the states is way too lenient. You should not be able to own a gun if you have a history of drug crimes and abuse. Criminal record etc..There are some who should have the right and i guess if you think you should have a gun in your house that is your choice since it’s legal…but for what? What’s wrong with alarms and making sure your house is locked up for the night if it’s protection you seek? Just wondering why millions of americans feel the need to own a gun especially when there are kids in the home..can’t unring that bell if ya know what i mean.
NO VILLIFYING THAT I CAN SEE…JUST DIFF OPINIONS
just one said: Thank God! Between you and Truthbetold, I have found new team players of reality and logic. Thank you, so much.
Ke,
Not trying to villify, my mom was terrified of guns because her mother killed herself with one that her police officer husband had in the home. Chit happens! I’ll settle for mace, large heavy objects or a chain saw to protect myself, I guess, though I don’t own one.
Thank you SIMON nancy grace and art harris always piggyback off of you I love this webpage
texasmommy39 said,in May 16th, 2010 at 10:04 am
I will gladly lay it to rest when we see the evidence that proves other wise an arrests are made. IMO it is still is a major red flag when you consider who was there that particular day.
Marty is ex police and John Regan claims to be undercover and Cobra is a Bounty Hunter/ Bail bonds man and if HaLeigh’s scent was found on item of interest than police should of been called immediately. Fake means it never happened and I know and everyone else knows it did too. I do not consider it fake, but, obstructing the truth.
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it never happen means it never happen, “fake” means it was a copycat search, a contrived search made to look like a real search. I agree it was indeed a FAKE search and it was also obstructing the truth.
does anybody know why Ronald’s bail hearing was cancelled?
No idea Yellow.
stillucy said,in May 16th, 2010 at 11:52 am just one said: Thank God! Between you and Truthbetold, I have found new team players of reality and logic. Thank you, so much.
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YW~It’s beyond me how some continue to defy the most logical theory, I am a firm believer in KISS (keep it simple stupid) & Occam’s Razor, yet some live for a conspiracy even when it makes no sense whatsoever IMO
C~A, I do agree with you regarding gun laws. Unfortunately, gun laws really only apply to those of us who are responsible citizens in the first place. Criminals bypass legal avenues altogether, so it’s really a moot point, imo.
Also, many gun owners own guns for reasons other than protection. My husband and I hunt. We also live in a very rural area and own livestock. A gun is a necessity in our situation.
Just trying to present the other side of gun onwership here.
(And now, I’ll get back on topic.)
OJ’s glove said,in May 16th, 2010 at 11:55 am texasmommy39 said,in May 16th, 2010 at 10:04 am
I will gladly lay it to rest when we see the evidence that proves other wise an arrests are made. IMO it is still is a major red flag when you consider who was there that particular day.
Marty is ex police and John Regan claims to be undercover and Cobra is a Bounty Hunter/ Bail bonds man and if HaLeigh’s scent was found on item of interest than police should of been called immediately. Fake means it never happened and I know and everyone else knows it did too. I do not consider it fake, but, obstructing the truth.
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it never happen means it never happen, “fake” means it was a copycat search, a contrived search made to look like a real search. I agree it was indeed a FAKE search and it was also obstructing the truth.
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I’ll third that opinion!
C~A said,in May 16th, 2010 at 11:40 am I as a Canadian have fared quite well NOT having a gun in my house and IMO my children are safer for it…JMO no disrespect intended to anyone who has guns..
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Never been a gun in my home period!
not knockin anybody but its not the gun I don’t trust,its the idiot that owns it….js
So a tv movie regarding HaLeigh’s case… will that be JUSTICE for her?
a responsible person makes certain no child can get to it to begin with,when someone dies from an accident,its the owners fault regardless…….imo
vaquera said,in May 16th, 2010 at 11:25 am maryd said,
in May 16th, 2010 at 10:13 am
Guns, drugs, sex, anger, not a good mix. How does Ron keep guns in his home with young children? That in itself is a grave danger to them. Pills possibly laying around, how risky is that? Teenage babysitter doing drugs with relative while watching the kids…pathetic. A neighborhood filled with SO’s and drug addicts. As far as motives it’s true you have a whole lot of adversary’s doing drugs with major issues, Amber, Crystal, Tommy, Joe, drug dealers, SO’s. Could have been an accident or intentional. It’s any wonder this poor child is missing or murdered, the odds were not in her favor.
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Not against the law to have guns in a house with kids. Mine knew not to touch the guns. Millions of gun owners also have kids.
As far as pills lying around, I seriously doubt that, that was from Chelsea and the Croslins are not a bastion of the truth.
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I doubt seriously drugs were lying around,a druggie protects his stash from someone visiting or in ronalds case where dcs was involved?? No way………imo
everyone in that family almost were drug abusers,I can almost 100% assure you nobody left em just layin around anywhere,I know i didn’t!
I’ll tell you the lengths i went too…to hide mine,dug a hole outside,dropped a mayonnaise jar in it,put my stash in it,screwed the lid on,
covered the lid with a rock,lol I know i am not the only one who figured that out,lol
Does anyone know if Lisa and Hank Sr. ever recovered thier car after it was stolen ?
another one,use your own judgement
Donald Lee Sapp Registered Sex Offender
possibly related in some way to Guy W. Sapp, Raymond Sapp, (which would make Donald related by marriage to Misty Croslin), and possibly related in some way to a Griffis (which could make Donald related by marriage as a maternal cousin to Haleigh Cummings).
From Putnam, at one time lived in the same town as Haleigh’s mother, Crystal, in Glenn Saint Mary, FL, has also lived in Mcclenny, FL, where some of Crystal’s family is from/living.
—-> Registered Sex Offender, arrested on 6-12-1997 for lewd/lascivious assault on 14 yr old female, occuring in East Palatka. At the time he was already serving probation for a prev. charge of l/l assault on 13 yr old female runaway. In 2000 he was arrested for trying to set up a meeting with a 10 yr old female, on a sting with her father in an internet chatroom. Billye Lee Griffis had testified in Donald’s trial in the 1990′s. A Raymond Sapp contributed to bail in one of Donald’s cases, and Donald is mentioned in Raymond obituary in 2005. Donald was married and has four children, according to Raymond Sapp’s obituary.
Donald moved to 315 2nd Ave, Satsuma, (which is 3.6 miles from the Cummings home). In doing public records search, 315 2nd Ave. comes up as being owned by and having been the residence of Jeffrey Michael Griffis and Billye Lee (Wager?) Griffis. (see http://www1.putnam-fl.com/live/papage.asp?id=8132 ).
On 12-30-2008, Billye files a petition for injunction against domestic violence against Jeffrey, who is served a subpeona on 01-02-2009.
On 01-05-09, Jeffrey files a petition for injunction against domestic violence on behalf of his children against Donald Sapp. It was denied. Three days later Jeffrey was dead.
Jeffrey M. Griffis, age 29, was hit by a car on 1/7/2009 and died the next day. Benjamin D. Prewitt, 74, of Crescent City, was driving southbound on U.S. 17 on the Dunns Creek Bridge when he failed to see Griffis in the roadway. (He was standing in the road/freeway, was he suicidal? Local rumor has it that his wife Billye and Donald L. Sapp were carrying on.)
Donald Lee Sapp moved into Jeffrey and Billye’s home on 1/26/2009, a few weeks after Jeffrey’s death. Did Billye stay in the home or had she moved out?
A few weeks after Donald moved in, Haleigh disappeared.
Donald’s Pic:
http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee166/benzo_013/sexoffender.jpg
CathyJo
your the only voice of reason about the addiction part of this. They never leave thier stash laying around, for others it would be hard for a kid to just run accross them.
Chelsea made the statement that pills were laying around every where thats really a hard one to believe. there no way addicts would just leave them lay.
Linda,I believe they did!
not certain,lol sorry
No wayLinda,i had them in my bra or underground? a pill when youre an addict is basically worth more than your life at the time,
no way are you gonna take a chance you lose EVEN ONE!!
stillucy said,
in May 16th, 2010 at 9:05 am
Supposedly, Donna had tapes from her little escapades with Misty, whatever happened to those? If there was any truth to that, I would have expected LE to have gotten their hands on them while she’s been incarcerated, legally of course, search warrants. That is, if there was any truth to that rumor.
Has anyone heard who may be on Simon/Jan’s show today?
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She tried to give them to PCSO, they didn’t want them and said to destroy them because they were illegally taped since Misty didn’t know she was being taped.
I would have to beg to differ with Chelsea!lol
Linda said,
in May 16th, 2010 at 12:33 pm
CathyJo
your the only voice of reason about the addiction part of this. They never leave thier stash laying around, for others it would be hard for a kid to just run accross them.
Chelsea made the statement that pills were laying around every where thats really a hard one to believe. there no way addicts would just leave them lay.
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Exactly
Vaquero–_Sorry I did get that mixed up with Snodgrass and Sapp. I am glad you pointed that out. Was Donald Sapp ever investigated? Does anyone know? I know he was one of the 44 sex offenders living in that area (according to another forum). And I see that he listed as a possible relative to one of the families. I think the possible family connection might be on the Sheffield side. The topix forum laid a possible scenario involving him which was very interesting to say the least. Even Lindsy Croslin (if it was truly her) made a post there, concerning her property on Tyler Street. It was also very enlightening how LE responded to the information these tipsters (bloggers) gave them. It showed (to me) why this investigation is in total disarray and they are no further along than day one. A few searches and interrogations (of the same people I might add) does not equal an investigation. Texasmommy–You would be quite surprised at the number of people who share your theory. It definately deserves a proper investigation, but when that came about (from the man not named here) look how fast they discredited him. JMO
Linda said,
in May 16th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
Does anyone know if Lisa and Hank Sr. ever recovered thier car after it was stolen ?
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stolen? The one LP bought them was stolen??
thats why i have never for one second believed she got a pill laying around and O’Ded impossible and thats why youve heard me agree and talk about a lot but thats one i never even discussed till now!
NOI way!
Exactly Vaq!
robin said,
in May 16th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
Vaquero–_Sorry I did get that mixed up with Snodgrass and Sapp. I am glad you pointed that out. Was Donald Sapp ever investigated? Does anyone know? I know he was one of the 44 sex offenders living in that area (according to another forum). And I see that he listed as a possible relative to one of the families. I think the possible family connection might be on the Sheffield side. The topix forum laid a possible scenario involving him which was very interesting to say the least. Even Lindsy Croslin (if it was truly her) made a post there, concerning her property on Tyler Street. It was also very enlightening how LE responded to the information these tipsters (bloggers) gave them. It showed (to me) why this investigation is in total disarray and they are no further along than day one. A few searches and interrogations (of the same people I might add) does not equal an investigation. Texasmommy–You would be quite surprised at the number of people who share your theory. It definately deserves a proper investigation, but when that came about (from the man not named here) look how fast they discredited him. JMO
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LE said they investigated all the RSO’s in the area and basically cleared them, so who the heck knows.
What a mess !!! I just hurt for Little Haleigh..Hurt.
After following lots of coverage, I have come to the following theory. It is my own, so it won’t need corrected. So many lies out there we won’t likely hear the truth until the trial.
I believe that Ronald Cummings did have a gun that Misty, Joe & Tommy had planned to steal. I do believe Ronald was at work. Misty was at home with the two kids. Joe did come over to steal the gun, with the knowledge of Misty and Tommy. Both Misty & Tommy were present.I believe the gun, in fact was missing, and that Misty really didn’t know it was gone.
I believe Joe lost it, took Haleigh into the bedroom, threatened to kill the other two if they moved. I believe he raped her, and then smothered her with a pillow or chocked her. I do not believe Tommy and Misty knew he was going to kill her.
He then brought her body out of the bedroom and used it to warn Misty & Tommy what he did, and would do to anyone who got in his way, or told what happened.
I believe Misty and Tommy in fear for their life, offered to help Joe by going to the river with Haleigh’s body, and even though Joe & Tommy did throw her little dead body into the river, Misty observe everything.
I believe they then returned home before Ron arrived. They did not tell Ron what happened, but instead let him think she had been abducted, so his actions would come across as real when he was questioned by the authorties…….which I feel it did just that.
I think at a later date, after the trio, Joe, Misty & Tommy were sure that there would be no body to be found, because of the aligators.
They then told Ron that Haley had swallowed one of his illegal pills and died. They, these three, were only trying to keep him (Ron,) out of being charged with her death, so they got rid of the body for him.
Ron believed them for a while and is slowly learning the truth along with the country, “one—- word———- at—— a——– time.”
I BELIEVE ALL OF THEM DESERVE TO DO THE REST OF THEIR LIFE IN JAIL FOR BEING INVOLVED WITH THIS TINY CHILD’S DEATH.
EK
CathyJo63 said,
in May 16th, 2010 at 12:39 pm
Exactly Vaq!
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Yup
yes vaq! it was but somehow i think lisa knew the thief and called to tell him bring it back!
Beats me? lol
CathyJo; Sometimes your scary but, you always amaze me with your humor. I enjoy reading your post and always read your input.
Edwina,you may be right? who knows anything yet?
beautiful*adams (cent) said,
in May 16th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
So a tv movie regarding HaLeigh’s case… will that be JUSTICE for her?
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That’s if you believe Wackanne
I really hate to ask this but does any no How can I find information about the Chad I think was with crystal and baby Chloes dad I don’t even no his last name.
Vaq, it’s horrible anyway you look at it.
robin, I am not surprised by who and how many are of that opinion. I am sure it is being investigated as we speak.
maryd said,
in May 16th, 2010 at 11:37 am
vaquera said,
in May 16th, 2010 at 11:25 am
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Not against the law to have guns in a house with kids. Mine knew not to touch the guns. Millions of gun owners also have kids.
As far as pills lying around, I seriously doubt that, that was from Chelsea and the Croslins are not a bastion of the truth.
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May not be against the law V, but doesn’t make it less dangerous. Especially when the bearers are indulging in drugs too. I doubt a child of 4 or 6 can be trusted to not touch something because they were told not to. Did Ronald have a license for these guns? If not that is against the law. I guess I may disagree with millions of gun owners who have guns and kids in their homes. JMO. It depends on the person and the chances they are willing to take.
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I don’t have licenses for any of my guns and that is perfectly legal. But Ron did have his CHL so he was able to carry.
If you buy a new gun from a dealer you have to do background checks,that is handguns only,not long guns. That is not the law if you buy from a individual, at a gun show or if one is given to you.
Linda said,in May 16th, 2010 at 12:33 pm CathyJo
your the only voice of reason about the addiction part of this. They never leave thier stash laying around, for others it would be hard for a kid to just run accross them.
Chelsea made the statement that pills were laying around every where thats really a hard one to believe. there no way addicts would just leave them lay.
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Thank you very much Linda,I’ll take that as a huge compliment because God knows if i walked away with one good thing from my life of drugs it is now that I do have that experience and am able to tell it as it really was,thats why i won’t sugarcoat it because theres no sugar in it and ya can’t help anybody by lying or being ashamed,I am not the only one who went through it but not many tell it aS IT REALLY IS!
Griffis, Chad
SEC LINDA,ill look!
CathyJo63 said,
in May 16th, 2010 at 12:40 pm
yes vaq! it was but somehow i think lisa knew the thief and called to tell him bring it back!
Beats me? lol
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too funny
http://www.myspace.com/418138401
Chads myspace,he was also Marie g’s stepson and a cousin to Crystal i think?
Marie also gave him a false allibi for the night Haleigh went missing,right??
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/mostpopular/news-article.aspx?storyid=131221&provider=top
chad questioned Linda!
VQ,
yes it was on this blog few days or week a so.
crazy aint it vaq,i’d almost bet they pawned it!
did chads interview at 1coastnews post Linda?
stillucy said,in May 16th, 2010 at 12:40 pm CathyJo; Sometimes your scary but, you always amaze me with your humor. I enjoy reading your post and always read your input.
OMG Me scary?,olord do tell me!!!
am i really scary? lol
Where was Chad that Monday night till after 5 am the morning of Febuary 10th? The same morning that HaLeigh was reported missing.
I want to understand why Crysal called no one till after 5 am?
I want to understand why it took Crystal over 7 hours to get to Satsuma?
I want to know why this side of HaLhs famiy mde adime off of HaLeighs abduction?
I want to know why was the childsupport that was paid for Crystal put on hold for identity theft?
I want to know why Crystal and Marie lied about the Courts ruling on custody and why?
I want to know why Marie and Crystal went after Ronald and cliamed he did drugs, but, failed to mention Crystal was still a drug user as well.
I want to understand why Marty and Connie moved out of state while their Grand child was still missing?
I would love to know why Ruby wants big money to tell what she knows.
Lucy,then you don’t wanna see me in the morning,lmbo
CathyJo,
That was meant as a complement I’ve had my own issues .
chloe was born with painkillers in her system too and i have always said,just because the dads in jail don’t make you a mother either!
TexMom,Me tooo! whats worth that much money?
ty Linda! (((((((Hugs))))))
CathyJo: I just sounds like you’re one of the lucky ones, addiction issues. That’s all I meant.
You add a bit of humor, it’s always enjoyable here in these less than enjoyable situation. Thank you, that’s all.
FYI Hank Sr & Lisa’s car was taken with keys in it and it running by 1 of their roomies from the boarding house, I guess it was borrowed, for a few days. LE recovered it and returned it to Hank Sr. & Lisa and not in the condition that it was in when it was taken. Go figure.
SATSUMA, FL — The fiance of Haleigh Cummings’
mom says he doesn’t know where the five year old is. Chad Griffis says police questioned him in the case on Wednesday.
Griffis says police asked him when he last saw Haleigh. Griffis says he told police he saw her two Sunday’s ago. “It was all the same. They(kids) didn’t want to go back,” Griffis says referring to sending Haleigh and her little brother back to their dad’s home.
Griffis says he is praying the five year old is ok. He got emotional when making a plea for her safe return.
Griffis is just one of many family members and close friends who have spoken with police. Authorities have announced that everyone is a suspect at this point in time.
kids didn’t wanna go back,i don’t believe that!imo
In my opinion nothing. I would give anything to get my little girl back!
Texas Mommy,
I’ve heard all the Question above and no answers.
But if they some how they did this how would they have ever gotten see her. especially Crystal.
Wouldn’t they all be watched .
stillucy said,in May 16th, 2010 at 1:01 pm CathyJo: I just sounds like you’re one of the lucky ones, addiction issues. That’s all I meant.
You add a bit of humor, it’s always enjoyable here in these less than enjoyable situation. Thank you, that’s all.
Ohhh Than You Lucy!
Lord you scared me,for a second,I thought oman maybe i am to hard on you guys,stuff like that worries me?? LoL
But i see what you mean! Cause i want ppl to know the real side of addiction so i thought omg,she is scared so everybody else must be too..lol
Linda, IMO If Chad was able to hid his children for over a year than it is more than possible that HaLeigh can be hidden as well.
Lucy,TY,I was very lucky and if i hadn’t got out of that when i did,i know i wouldn’t be here now!
I have lost 100′s of ppl related or aquaintances in just 2 yrs from drugs!
Linda,did the links help?
I do believe they are all being watched and have been.
MATTHEW ZARRELL, NANCY GRACE STAFFER: No, he wasn`t. It was Chad Griffis. He`s Haleigh`s mother`s fiance. Now, he was brought in for questioning. Now, this is not the first time he`s been brought in for questioning. He was brought in a couple of weeks ago and asked when the last time he saw Haleigh was, and he said a couple weeks before she went missing.
GRACE: To Crystal Sheffield, Haleigh`s mom. Why was he taken in again, Crystal?
SHEFFIELD: To be — I think it was something Ronald had said to him.
GRACE: About?
SHEFFIELD: Oh, what was it…
GRIFFIS: It was actually a misunderstanding.
SHEFFIELD: It was a misunderstanding between — it was told to my brother that Ronald said he was 75 percent sure he knew who took Haleigh. And they misunderstood it and took Chad in instead of my brother.
GRACE: I understand. So to Marie Griffis, what was the outcome of that?
GRIFFIS: I have no idea. The last we heard, the officer was going over to my son`s house to talk to him about what Ronald had told him. And Ronald`s not — I mean, Marcus (ph) is not the only person that Ronald had this story to. We have a lady that stays up here at our tent. She`s from Pensacola, Florida. She come here when she heard this on the radio. They come straight to here to be with us. We don`t know these people. We just met them. Her name is Teresa (ph). And she went down the day she got here, which was Thursday, to Ronald`s tent. And she was off to the side talking to him, and he told her that he was 75 percent sure he knew that Misty`s cousin, Joe, took Haleigh. So the stories kind of match.
theres undercovers in jail with all of them.
thats true TexMom,if he can hide them a year,my God!
Just thought of this possibility this morning….I remembered that I can leave a voice mail for someone on their phone, without even ringing their phone. When you get a message, you simply hit reply to message at the end of the voicemail. That person then receives the voicemail without ever having their phone ring. If someone was to call the voicemail system from another phone, would that show up? I don’t mean calling from your own phone to check as that would show up. I mean calling the voicemail from a different phone. Just curious if anyone knows. I know service and features are different with different phone companies and parts of the country. Wonder if LE checked into that.
Wonder if Ron made a call from the convienence store? They should check into that too. Is it possible that they erased all their text messages before the police arrived? Wonder if police have checked those out too? Maybe someone else was relaying messages and calling a work phone or a coworkers phone? I know if I ‘can’t find my phone’, I use my friends. Hmmm. Just curious. This should give the Ronhaters something to think about, lol.
GRACE: Interesting question. Let`s go to T.J. Hart with WSKY.
What about them? Now, we know about the cousin that was in town and mysteriously disappeared when she goes missing, but he`s been cleared.
HART: That`s true. The cousin, Joe, as he was somewhat identified as, has been cleared as of Saturday afternoon at about 3:05, when Captain Dick Shuller (ph) said, No, he`s no longer a person of interest, he`s not a suspect. They cleared him, actually, early on in the investigation.
Misty Croslin, of course, has been the focus — a great deal of focus has been placed on her with some alleged inconsistencies with her stories. But as far as Ms. Croslin`s mom, to be quite honest with you, I`ve not met her yet. That`s one of the few people I`ve failed to walk into after being in the area for the amount of time
Joe is the culprit and Tommy is involved somehow.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Crystal Sheffield says Ronald Jr. was questioned immediately by a team of people who deal with children. That is with a lot of other potential evidence police will not comment on specifics.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What we`re concerned with is the life of this child and what we`re concerned with is the recovery of this child. And we`re going to do anything we can to recover her. We don`t want to give out any information that`s going to jeopardize that.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: 1120 to 1271.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Go ahead, Sir.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Stay at the residence. Maintain that point of access, (INAUDIBLE) canines and do another thorough search from inside the house.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That`s a 10-4.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: 10-4 1054.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: 10-4 I`m back on Green Lane.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: 10-4 Go ahead and just gather as much information as you can about any family or anything around here and go ahead and call in her and get a signal and report her as 8.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It has already been done, sir.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You start taking tags and stopping vehicles that leaving for this area.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
NANCY GRACE, HOST: We find out that another search on horseback goes down in the densely wooded area behind the Cummings home.
To Matt Zarrell, that search has already been done several times. Why do they keep going back to this area?
MATTHEW ZARRELL, NANCY GRACE ASSOCIATE PRODUCER: Well, at this point we know that the searchers continue to look in all the areas because they don`t have any leads at this point. The cops are sharing some information with them that we know of, but at this point searchers are going on just instincts and reaction at this point.
GRACE: To Marlaina Schiavo, standing by there at the Sheffield family tent in Satsuma, Florida. You had the opportunity to interview the babysitter/girlfriend Misty Croslin today. And yes, she`s got some strikes against her. Last one to see the victim. Inconsistencies in her story.
On the other hand, she has fully cooperated with police. What is she telling you?
GRACE: Look, I`m not taking her side or against her. I`m on neither side right now, because the evidence is not clear to me, Sue Moss. So she`s neither in nor out.
rofl YEA RIGHT?
Texasmommy–Earlier on in the investigation, Marie Griffis mentioned she thought Haleigh was still alive and might be in certain southern states? 5o you recall the names of the states she mentioned? And do you know where Marty Sheffield moved to? I am curious about this information. TIA
IMO Jo is the scapegoat! lol
You do have a point Jen about the VM!
OJ,I AGREE WIFF YOU FINALLY,,,LoL
CathyJo63 said,in May 16th, 2010 at 1:05 pm stillucy said,in May 16th, 2010 at 1:01 pm CathyJo: I just sounds like you’re one of the lucky ones, addiction issues. That’s all I meant.
You add a bit of humor, it’s always enjoyable here in these less than enjoyable situation. Thank you, that’s all.
You’re very welcome Lucy!
I am a certified Nut! lol
Lucy,it is hard to find humor here but sometimes we gotta laugh!and it’s either i am laughed with or at,lol
i’ll take either,lol
The police seem to be quite capable of rounding up the folks they want, I’d lay a bet that if they thought Cousin Joe was involved, they would have rounded him up on one charge or another. Drugs, Firearms, Stealing, oh the possibilities are endless.
**********Snipped by me from above article.
Thank you Simon.
If Joe is a child killer he would not stand a chance. It has been now a Month since Tommy pointed the finger at cousin Joe and we have seen no further action to conclude that this is the truth and LE is after Joe.JMO
/me just knows somebodys gonna have to give OJ CPR!
right TexMom! it wouldn’t be hard to do! lol poor ole feller looks like a suspicious person,lol
Be careful, that’s the 2nd time in the last 2 days that someone has actually agreed with OJ on 2 separate items, he may lose it. LOL Too funny!
ROFL Lucy,i swear i laughed for 2-3 days straight cuz i visioned him sitting in here all alone and 100′s of us came running in and slapped him as we passed him,oh i thoought i’d die!
and he always says,you’ll come round to my way of thinkin’lol
I have a hopeful feeling that we will get some valuable new info this week.
I doubt it will result in a new arrest, however.
signed, Sylvia Browne
How do we no Chad hid his for yr.?
sota like he was being tortured for the truth but i gotta give it to him,he stands his ground!lol
I hope you’re right Lynny!
CathyJo: Sometimes his ground resembles a sand trap…………IMO LOL
robin said,in May 16th, 2010 at 1:16 pm Texasmommy–Earlier on in the investigation, Marie Griffis mentioned she thought Haleigh was still alive and might be in certain southern states? 5o you recall the names of the states she mentioned? And do you know where Marty Sheffield moved to? I am curious about this information. TIA
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I do not recall the states, but, do recall her saying that and thinking it was a little wierd at the time. Mart moved to Tenn. but is now back in Florida.
Hmmm lets see,i am sure he coulda broke atleast one of these,lol
Dumb Laws in Tennessee
You can’t shoot any game other than whales from a moving automobile.
Hollow logs may not be sold.
More than 8 women may not live in the same house because that would constitute a brothel.
It is illegal to use a lasso to catch a fish.
“Crimes against nature” are prohibited.
Ministers are to be dedicated to God and therefore are not eligible to hold a seat in either House of the Legislature.
Any person who participates in a duel may not hold any public office in the state.
Giving and receiving oral sex is still prohibited by law.
Stealing a horse is punishible by hanging.
No Christian parent may require their children to pick up trash from the highway on Easter day.
The definition of “dumb animal” includes every living creature.
Interracial marriages are illegal..
Tattooing a minor is a misdemeanor.
It is illegal to dare a child to purchase a beer.
It is illegal to place tacks on a highway.
Skunks may not be carried into the state.
roflao! Lucy,or suicide..lol mmmmmmmHmmmmmm
Georgis was one! Mississipi or Alabama??
Johnny Sheffield’s myspace:
Crystal’s and Sarah’s father
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=409750817
did Martys myspace link show ,i just posted?
brb phone
I came accross a page of the Sheffields and the Cumming and Sapp yo all are talking about.
It seems Crolins and sheffield, may be realtives Commings in there to It was along list I nvere seen it before
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4570.0;wap2
I believe it was the ex-FBI agent Steve Brown who said it wouldn’t be a big surprise when it came out who “murdered” Haleigh?
If I remember correctly, he used the word “murdered” not killed. Now, we are certainly learning to parse words in statements like that! What do people usually think when they hear the term “murdered” compared to how exactly does law enforcement use the term? That there must be actual intent? Or would extreme negligence and/or depraved indifference fit in with that? Anyone care to comment?
Didn’t Marty S. Tell cobra he wasn’t gonna get aressted to where ever he was moving ?
http://www.news4jax.com/video/23145771/index.html
This is a video of Steven K Brown after the seach was began at the river.
http://www.stevenkbrown.com/
This is his web site.
Mr Sheffield sure uses his myspace last visit today.
Thanks CathyJo.
Mr Sheffield sure uses his myspace last visit today.
Thanks CathyJo.
I see alot of misinformation on here from the past. Seems to be showing up all over again. Please dont go too far back because in the beginning there was alot of incorrect info that has since been corrected. Rumors were flying around and stated as fact.jmo
I would like to mention WBG, again. Someone said WBG didn’t know RC. How do we know that? That is a small place, and we can’t believe WBG on that. I have a feeling that he got to know RC, after he spent those days with MC.
I wonder if LE is looking harder at WBG and the people around him, now. His arrest may be more important than we might think.
1. A number of people said RC was after WBG for sleeping with MC.
2. WBG said that RC went into a drugman’s den and robbed him at gunpoint.
3. Was WBG that drugman?
4. Did RC rob him to retalliate for his sleeping with MC? This would probably bring retalliation, for sure. In that community, you don’t mess with someone’s drugs.
5. I heard a report early on that RC was in a big fight, involving guns, with someone over drugs the afternoon before HC went missing. Then, it was one of those hushed up deals.
6. RC called MC so many times the night HC went missing.
7. Was he worried about a retalliation from robbing a drugman in his own den?
8. MC did not want to keep the kids. Ron told her she had to keep them. Did she fear a retalliation?
9. Ron told the uc guy that drugmen killed your family and left them there for you to see when you got home.
10. Is that what happened when a woman screamed in the night?
11. They wouldn’t have called LE because it involved drugs.
12. MC may have called Toc to help after HC was killed.
13. ToC may have brought JO, along to help.
14. They let RC know and they all went into getting rid of HC’s body and the evidence, because RC and MC would get connected to the illegal drugs.
15. ToC and JO took HC to the river.
16. ToC and MC are still telling partial truths, because they fear the drug dealers that hurt HC. ToC is terrified for his kids but not because of JO, but because of the drug dealers that killed HC.
17. RC said on the 9-1-1 tape that someone stole his kid, and he asked MC why she let someone come in and take her. Maybe he was blaming her, because she went to sleep and didn’t use the gun he left with her to protect herself and the kids.
18. RC never really held MC responsible for what happened to HC, because he knew it was a retalliation for what he had done.
19. MC commented, if someone comes in and puts a gun in my mouth and tells me not to tell. NuHuh and she says I’m not telling. She is terrified after what was done to HC.
20. RC never looks for HC beause he knows where she is.
21. They all decide early on to blame JO, if it gets too hot for them.
All of this is just a thought.
even i agree with OJ this time. yikes
true tho
LoL HomeSpain! Its Oj’s lucky day!
wbg robbed ec? huh?
Greg Lewis Page
(see source below)
aka “White Boy Greg”
referred to by Cobra in his audio interview:
“..I said Ronald, I have a very difficult question to ask you, about your now wife. It appears one week before Haliegh came up missing, she was. And Ronald told me to “stop right there, I know what you are going to ask me, yes was she f*cking a black guy? Yes, how do I feel about her f*cking a black guy? I know this, if I didn’t marry her, I would never, you hear me? What do you do to your enemies?” I said (Cobra) “You keep them close.” Ronald says “Exactly, and if I didn’t marry her, I don’t know where in the hell my, where am I going to look for my son? (Cobra meant to say daughter).”
Page was CLEARED through his polygraph of any involvement in Haleigh’s disappearance and PCSO does not consider him a suspect.
Misty Croslin Cummings also admitted to the weekend and drug use following confrontation by LE of this incident during a polygraph as well.”
… snipped from the following article:
http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/03/23/haleigh-cummings-case-exclusive-misty-on-3-day-bender-with-lover-and-drugs/
rc sorry!
Greg Lewis Page (aka “White Boy Greg”)
Greg is a light-skinned black man who was introduced to Misty by Nay-Nay, who rode around with them as they cruised the area. Misty was with Greg on her three-day bender of sex and drug use. They may have also been with a group of friends partying that weekend. Recently there have been reports of males in a truck “looking for” Greg, who has been laying low following supposed threats from the Cummings family.
Knowing someone and know about someone are two different things. I believe WBG had heard his name and reputation but didnt know him personally.jmo
sorry Tobias,if you were talking about me,i posted articles when the names came up?
lol /me hides from Tobias!
YW Linda,he did say in a tape Cobra had that the law couldn’t touch him in ky??
i was told that it pertained to dogs he was fighting.ya know.our 4 legged friends? lol
Tobias,
Sorry if you are referring to my questions.
But there still alot of rumors that people state is fact that hasn’t stopped.
Plus there still is alot being stated as truth from the beggining but are still not correct.
its showtime!
alethea said,in May 16th, 2010 at 1:47 pm I believe it was the ex-FBI agent Steve Brown who said it wouldn’t be a big surprise when it came out who “murdered” Haleigh?
If I remember correctly, he used the word “murdered” not killed. Now, we are certainly learning to parse words in statements like that! What do people usually think when they hear the term “murdered” compared to how exactly does law enforcement use the term? That there must be actual intent? Or would extreme negligence and/or depraved indifference fit in with that? Anyone care to comment?
hmmmmmmmmm
lol u scared me OJ!
FYI….
It is illegal to use a lasso to catch a fish in Tennessee.
Remind me not to use a lasso when i fish,rofl.thats a hard hait to break!
This question is in regard to Haleigh and folks in her family. I did see earlier that someone mentioned all the various members of her family,but mainly her birth mothers side,so am thinking you may know. I have communication with someone who says she is Haleighs cousin and comes from rons side. her name is Autumn.i feel real sorry for her cos its not her fault shes related. has anyone heard the name being connected with Haleigh.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4570.0
Link to the names related to Haleigh and family!
Carol,I don’t recall ever hearing of an Autumn? Sorry
The preceding example can be used as a mental tool to understand what happened to HaLeigh Cummings.
I am going to share with you something that has never been reported by the mainstream media. When I am done, I believe you will realize that although clouds sometimes look like elephants, waves don’t write “John loves Mary” on the beach.
During an interview I conducted with Ft. Lauderdale Private Investigator
William ‘COBRA’ Staubs amidst his so-called “investigation” into the disappearance of HaLeigh Cummings; he told me all about a pair of blue-jeans he had found.
Staubs said he found some blue-jeans in the garbage at the home of Ronald Cummings.
The jeans, he said, appeared to have blood on them and had a rip in the rear-end, such as one might get if they tried to climb over a barbed-wire fence and got their butt snagged on the fence.
Staubs told me over and over that the jeans looked like they would fit Misty Croslin.
These facts and circumstances were verified to me by Donald Knop, former team member of Attorney Kim Picazio.
Both Staubs and Knop told me that Staubs telephoned and texted the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office (PCSO) many, many times in effort to report the evidence find – Knop said they actually took photos of the text messages to prove how hard they tried to get law enforcement to come out and retrieve the ‘evidence’ found in Ronald Cummings’ garbage.
The PCSO refused to come and pick up the jeans, so Staubs finally bagged them up and brought them down to the PCSO and entered them into evidence, himself.
Staubs told me the jeans were logged in as evidence and he received a receipt for them.
Now, let’s think about this, folks.
Staubs arrived in Satsuma, Florida on March 11, 2009. At that time, HaLeigh Cummings had already been missing for a month.
First let’s address the obvious question; shall we? How in the world could COBRA Staubs find a pair of blue jeans that appear to have blood on them (red stains) in the garbage at the home of Ronald Cummings, over a month after HaLeigh was abducted?
The PCSO and Florida Department of Law Enforcement (FDLE) most certainly went through the garbage at the crime-scene; right?
Well, actually, maybe not, which is why Staubs was able to pull this little stunt?
It is important to think hard about this and concentrate. Remember, the water is crashing up onto the beach and you need to determine whether or not sea shells and sticks are digging meaningful words into the sand by pure chance; or not.
Think about it.
Staubs calls the PCSO over and over reporting what he found, yet, they simply ignore him. Does that make sense? A licensed private investigator in the state of Florida is FYI………I just ran across this and i have always been a Cobra fan but I look at every single possibility,I post this as i would anyone else who claims another did or did not do or hear things in Haleighs case.I don’t know Cobra so theres no way i know to believe him any more than others who are involved..out of fairness tho I post this i guess to give reason why ppl become skeptical!
advising law enforcement he has found a pair of jeans with a rip in the butt and what appears to be blood stains on the legs, in the garbage at the home of the missing child’s father – the home the child disappeared from – and they ignore him.
Shouldn’t law enforcement come roaring out with sirens blaring?
Perhaps not.
I would have to question that?
I do wonder how all this stuff was found by Cobra…sorry but i do?
CathyJo–where did you find that article if you don’t mind me asking? I wonder if the blood on these jeans was ever analyzed? Plus didn’t Ronald and family have to move into a tent while the MH was being analyzed? Cobra was brought into the investigation by the Sheffields a month AFTER the abduction, yet he found bloody jeans in a garbage can? That article is amazing and shows what OJ is claiming along–an incompetent LE or what Texasmommy has stated–a red herring created by the Sheffield family.
Karon said,in May 16th, 2010 at 2:38 pm I would like to mention WBG, again. Someone said WBG didn’t know RC. How do we know that? That is a small place, and we can’t believe WBG on that. I have a feeling that he got to know RC, after he spent those days with MC.
I wonder if LE is looking harder at WBG and the people around him, now. His arrest may be more important than we might think.
1. A number of people said RC was after WBG for sleeping with MC.
2. WBG said that RC went into a drugman’s den and robbed him at gunpoint.
3. Was WBG that drugman?
4. Did RC rob him to retalliate for his sleeping with MC? This would probably bring retalliation, for sure. In that community, you don’t mess with someone’s drugs.
5. I heard a report early on that RC was in a big fight, involving guns, with someone over drugs the afternoon before HC went missing. Then, it was one of those hushed up deals.
6. RC called MC so many times the night HC went missing.
7. Was he worried about a retalliation from robbing a drugman in his own den?
8. MC did not want to keep the kids. Ron told her she had to keep them. Did she fear a retalliation?
9. Ron told the uc guy that drugmen killed your family and left them there for you to see when you got home.
10. Is that what happened when a woman screamed in the night?
11. They wouldn’t have called LE because it involved drugs.
12. MC may have called Toc to help after HC was killed.
13. ToC may have brought JO, along to help.
14. They let RC know and they all went into getting rid of HC’s body and the evidence, because RC and MC would get connected to the illegal drugs.
15. ToC and JO took HC to the river.
16. ToC and MC are still telling partial truths, because they fear the drug dealers that hurt HC. ToC is terrified for his kids but not because of JO, but because of the drug dealers that killed HC.
17. RC said on the 9-1-1 tape that someone stole his kid, and he asked MC why she let someone come in and take her. Maybe he was blaming her, because she went to sleep and didn’t use the gun he left with her to protect herself and the kids.
18. RC never really held MC responsible for what happened to HC, because he knew it was a retalliation for what he had done.
19. MC commented, if someone comes in and puts a gun in my mouth and tells me not to tell. NuHuh and she says I’m not telling. She is terrified after what was done to HC.
20. RC never looks for HC beause he knows where she is.
21. They all decide early on to blame JO, if it gets too hot for them.
All of this is just a thought.
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Karon-I do think this is a very valid theory, even Ron himself stated to Tim Miller he was worried she was taken out of retaliation for something he did. I just don’t think it’s WBG, I think it would be someone higher up the food chain so to speak, but in this case I never say never as to the who, when and why.
Robin,i cant post the link,not allowed too,lol but type in search box,Write into action Haleigh cummings?
tons of info….i dunno if its true but none of us do but it can’t hurt to look in different places,lol
Right Robin,ohhhhh OJ will party down tonight,lol its so screwed up we can’t say OJ’s crazy………..(well I can.lol)j/k but he may be right in the end,who knows? been worse!
Right Justone,it makes me wonder how rc went to work early,pulled a double shift and extra work when he kept calling home but misty didn’t answer,don’t sound right!
to my understanding anyway that what happened!
plus stop at the store?
you know he thought to himself,She’s with wbg?
anybody would!
exactly right Robin,a red herring? possible!
cs and mg acted way strange!
even Cobra ?’ed their motives?
Actually i’d say it was very easy to blame Jo,look at him? LoL No offense but he looks like a guy that just don’t care about anyone or anything,doesn’t mean he don’t or does just saying!he’d look suspicious if he coo’ed too a baby ya know?
And its easy to see theres no love lost for the guy from his entire family!
http://newsblaze.com/story/20100418090329kays.nb/topstory.html
don’t you listen to the show cathy?
Hi, I was away from the ‘puter last night and I don’t have time to read todays postings, but I did read yesterdays replies. Special thanks go out to TexasMommy, (my brain sighed with pure relief) Jason (Ahahahaha. I was off a step yesterday, for sure!) and Cathy Jo. I saw the link for Misty’s “Step Mommy” page and I hadn’t seen that before. Belated thanks to you all and also to the person who handled the big job typing out those infamous phone calls. I appreciate it sooo much.
I am at a loss to garner in which context you were talking about “the remainder of The Famous Five.” Nonetheless, I am glad to inform you that I have written and published a book on Enid Blyton, titled, The Famous Five: A Personal Anecdotage (www.bbotw.com).
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As far as JO is concerned a gun and a sneak attack is a great leveller. How big or how small you are doesn’t count, if you are using a gun. I don’t know that he did the murder or not, however. Maybe MC and ToC are not as afraid of JO to testify against him, as they would be against a drugman.
CathyJo:
I heard Cobra being asked about the jeans on a radio program. He said the same thing you just did. I believe I have heard him say he had men on the ground in this case, before he got here. He said that outside trash wasn’t emptied or gone through for a long time.
Just One:
There may be several drugmen involved in all of this before it is over. From what I have heard, retalliation is not unusual in that area. I have heard from some of the local people that people are being beat up and left in a field over thes drug turf wars.
ToC’s lawyer keeps telling us he can’t tell us everything, yet. What else will we find out?
Also, we can’t dismiss the idea that some men were in competition over MC and their drugs. It is just a thought.
Does anyone know if WBG has been bailed out? If so, what is the amount of the bond? WBG knows something about all of this, and I wonder if LE is trying to sweat something out of him for a plea deal. If Hope got 15 yr, WBG has been in alot more trouble than Hope, I believe.
I think we should watch the drug arrests that go down for the next few weeks.
new article…..
CathyJo63 said,
in May 16th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
I would have to beg to differ with Chelsea!lol
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Just catchin up..but this one I found comical..you do that Cath and we’ll rouind Misty up too and talk to her about her ” foggy days”…dare to dream!!!
Karon said,
in May 16th, 2010 at 5:09 pm
As far as JO is concerned a gun and a sneak attack is a great leveller. How big or how small you are doesn’t count, if you are using a gun. I don’t know that he did the murder or not, however. Maybe MC and ToC are not as afraid of JO to testify against him, as they would be against a drugman.
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if this were the case..a simple 911 call the minute joe left would have saved haleighs life perhaps or at least found her and JO would be in jail. The only thing they did if this were the case is allow JO to get away with taking or hurting haleigh. Makes no sense first off to NOT protect that little girl, and second..they should be more afraid of jo if he running free..
Nip it in the bud at the beginning and jo would be in a jail since day one…WHERE’S THE FEAR IN THAT?
I beleive my other theory that I have posted all along. However, here are some other thoughts.
Brown says twice in that video: “eye witness accounts”. So, had to be someone who was there, right, and seen it all. I say NayNay was there. When she wrote in her letter about a party and Misty sleeping with WBG, I think she made it sound like the party was somewhere other than the MH. BUT, that’s where the party was. That’s where Haleigh disappeared from. That’s where they ALL feel guilty. That’s where NayNay dropped her car keys in the dirt.
Read her letter again…only read between the lines. She is trying to save her own butt for sure. She misleads police into thinking the party was somewhere else. The truth is in the lie.
ALSO, I keep going back to the 911 tape:
911: “OK when did you last see her?”
Misty Croslin: “Um, we like just, you know…it was about 10 o’clock- she was sleeping- I was cleaning…
Yep, the truth is in the lie! First she says: “we like just, you know” No Misty, we don’t know. She also uses the word WE. Who was the other person who last saw Haleigh too, along with Misty? I think she was about to say, “we like just were partying, you know” or “we like just saw her before we left her there to go party….”.
Then she pauses. “It was about 10 o’clock”. I think this is when something could of happened!
Then she adds “she was sleeping – I was cleaning”. Does this mean that Misty was cleaning up after the ‘party’? Does this say what she was really doing when something happened? I think it does.
First off, why so much information to the question of “when did you last see her”? I think because Misty had known since 10 o’clock about something with Haleigh and had time to think through what happened and what she could remember.
Second, does she really mean to say that she believed Haliegh to be asleep (but later realized she was OD’d), as she cleaned up the house from the party? She could be telling what she ‘thought’ so that she had an alibi of why she doesn’t know what happened to Haleigh.
Or just plain and simple, it was someone “inside” the house that set the back door up, because they didn’t want to make noise when carrying Haleigh out. Remember, Misty said the lights were on when she woke up? Haleigh was afraid of the dark, and I think whoever took her knows that.
Other thoughts:
Sorry, but Crystal, in my opinion is one evil sly bi…! She could be setting Misty up to take the fall. Chad could be in on it. They both have a history…. She is playing SB real well. Chad said the kids didn’t want to go back…hmmm. That whole situation is strange. I think that maybe Misty did wake up and find Haleigh gone AND she also scared the person or persons away who were coming back for Jr.. I think if she hadn’t woken up, he would of been taken too.
SB says it could implicate someone out of state too and there are ‘persons’. He also says Misty might get charged with child endangerment and that Ron has nothing to do with it as far as he knows.
Simon, lots going on, take note that Misty is the only one so far I see that is being depo’d.
Did Misty tell what really happen? Or is she telling on who got her mixed up with the drugs to start with? I find it very intersting that she will be depo’d for the 7 charges in Putnam. I see nobody else being depo’d. Hmmm..
Take a look: Misty Croslin scheduled to take 7 depositions on drug charges 05/19/2010 AT 11:00 AM and so on..
On May 11th a NOTICE OF TAKING DEPOSITION
was issued on the 7 drug charges in Putnam Co.
http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/crim_dkts/frame.php
Misty’s HEARING IN PUTNAM CO. CONTINUED TO 06/03/2010
Misty’s HEARING IN ST.JOHNS is on 06/08/2010
Hope Sykes has filed for a rehearing on her drug charges. sykes, hope a
2010-04-30 47 motion for rehearing
“snip” http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/crim_dkts/frame.php
ucn: 542010cf000143xxaxmx
2010-04-30 47 motion for rehearing
BROCK, DONNA MICHELLE
HINES, MICHAEL P
Charges: TRAFFICKING IN OXYCODONE (28 G – 30 KG) (893.135 1c1c)
Next Court Event
6/21/2010 9:00:00 AM
FELONY JURY TRIAL
BERGER, WENDY W
Courtroom 328
6/15/2010 9:00:00 AM
FELONY DOCKET CALL
BERGER, WENDY W
Courtroom 328
“Snip” http://www.palatkadailynews.com/articles/2010/05/14/news/news01.txt
Published: Thursday, May 13, 2010
Hank Croslin Jr. drug charges were continued to June 3 while the grand theft charge was set for trial on June 21.
“Snip” http://staugustine.com/news/2010-05-13/haleighs-father-negotiating-15-year-sentence-drug-case
Shoemaker said negotiations are not finished but part of the expected deal would mean Ronald Cummings would not be sentenced until after the Croslins are tried. Maybe 2 charges dropped, that will still leave 3 charges that could get Ronald 15-30 yrs per charge. Not just a total of 15yrs.
The judge assign a trial date of July 19, 2010 and a final date the court will accept a negotiated deal-plea agreement .
Hank Sr. and Lisa plead their cases and are on probation.
carolants said,
in May 16th, 2010 at 3:03 pm
This question is in regard to Haleigh and folks in her family. I did see earlier that someone mentioned all the various members of her family,but mainly her birth mothers side,so am thinking you may know. I have communication with someone who says she is Haleighs cousin and comes from rons side. her name is Autumn.i feel real sorry for her cos its not her fault shes related. has anyone heard the name being connected with Haleigh.
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Never heard of an Autumn on either side and I’ve dug around in the families.
TY Karon! hmmm
No OJ,I haven’t….lol
hmmmmmmmmm,Jen..you may be be on to something there……party there,i read an article yesterday that said Ronald does not like NayNay and didn’t want her around Misty,and Haleigh would tell if she’d been there while Ron was gone??
C~A said,in May 16th, 2010 at 5:56 pm CathyJo63 said,
in May 16th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
I would have to beg to differ with Chelsea!lol
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Just catchin up..but this one I found comical..you do that Cath and we’ll rouind Misty up too and talk to her about her ” foggy days”…dare to dream!!!
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crazy foggy Daze,lol
Iketa said,in May 16th, 2010 at 5:06 pm Hi, I was away from the ‘puter last night and I don’t have time to read todays postings, but I did read yesterdays replies. Special thanks go out to TexasMommy, (my brain sighed with pure relief) Jason (Ahahahaha. I was off a step yesterday, for sure!) and Cathy Jo. I saw the link for Misty’s “Step Mommy” page and I hadn’t seen that before. Belated thanks to you all and also to the person who handled the big job typing out those infamous phone calls. I appreciate it sooo much.
Belated welcome to you,lol
it was odd to me because in the 911 Haleigh was “our daughter”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrHsNr0uQIM
Lord,Tommy looks baddddd in this video!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6T4fHkqFknI&feature=related
Misty said here,she never saw any bricks at all? I had never once noticed her saying that before!
Tommy is more or less laughing in the nancy link i just posted…as he is saying he’s gotta pay,if he were that scared he would not be smiling and laughing as he told his granny Flora!
Has it occurred to anyone that wbg is just one of many “friends” Misty had. People came over often when Ron was at work and had access to the house and keys. Copies of the house keys were made previously. Misty doesn’t want to share the fourth person who was really there cause he took Haleigh. She didn’t want Ron to know about the guy who came over. That’s why she didn’t want to babysit that night. IMO
vaquera said,in May 16th, 2010 at 12:35 pm stillucy said,
in May 16th, 2010 at 9:05 am
Supposedly, Donna had tapes from her little escapades with Misty, whatever happened to those? If there was any truth to that, I would have expected LE to have gotten their hands on them while she’s been incarcerated, legally of course, search warrants. That is, if there was any truth to that rumor.
Has anyone heard who may be on Simon/Jan’s show today?
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She tried to give them to PCSO, they didn’t want them and said to destroy them because they were illegally taped since Misty didn’t know she was being taped.
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You know, that sounds really strange because you would think that if they thought they could get DB on something, they would have a chance to legally get hold of any tapes, also as evidence of illegal taping which is also a crime. Seems like it would open the door to being able to use what was on them in that case.
But maybe that was before they had any reason to suspect DB of doing anything illegal?
Steve Brown said it would be no surprise as to who killed Haleigh cummings in the Orlando paper and on a talk show. So, if he is now saying it is going to be a surprise he is full of crap or someone else it if they are saying that he said that.
I wouldn’t be surprised if any member of any of these families did it, to be homest with you. It was Grandma Sykes? I can buy that. It was Misty’s aunt Peanut from Tennessee? Not shocked. Oh, it was Ron’s crazy Uncle from over the way? Not surprising. Wait, you say it was Flora Hollers? Well, she seemed to be shy of a full load, so yeah…not floored by that.
Seriously, I think the only member of this crew that would surprise me is maybe Lindsy. And “maybe” is used tentatively in that sentence.
This deer rifle has been mentioned a few times. I would like to know if that rifle was ever found, if Ronald, did in fact, remove it from the home. Also, the story about Joe being furious that the rifle is missing doesn’t make sense to me. Was it a family gun? Hence the reason Joe would be furious? In my state, we do not hunt deer in February, so why would Joe be furious that he can’t go deer hunting with the gun? Did h want to retrieve it before he went back to Tennessee?? I don’t know, but there is something about the gun being brought up repeatedly that has my attention and I can’t figure out the importance of it. Also, if Tommy says Joe killed Haleigh…How did he kill her? I have not heard that mentioned. Strangled…beaten?…Just seems strange that an exact cause has not been mentioned…other than “Joe did it.”
vaquera said,in May 16th, 2010 at 6:40 pmcarolants said,
in May 16th, 2010 at 3:03 pm
This question is in regard to Haleigh and folks in her family. I did see earlier that someone mentioned all the various members of her family,but mainly her birth mothers side,so am thinking you may know. I have communication with someone who says she is Haleighs cousin and comes from rons side. her name is Autumn.i feel real sorry for her cos its not her fault shes related. has anyone heard the name being connected with Haleigh.
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Never heard of an Autumn on either side and I’ve dug around in the families
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Vaquera,ect,
She doesnt live near them at all but is Haleighs first Cousin on Rons side of the family although I am unsure if its Rons mothers side or his fathers side. I dont think shes one of those that would pretend to be related if she isnt,well I hope not.
I also know of a person who says he is Mistys brother but I am unsure. Hes called Robert and is either her brother or married to one of her sisters.have you come across them.
To the best of my knowledge, there are only 3 children: Tommy, Timmy and Misty.
I do recall hearing the name Autumn Merchant somewhere awhile back. No clue if she’s related to Ronald or not, but you could dig and see what you come up with.
That’s the most I can offer.
I’m still up thinking and reading about the case. I’m going back to square one. The dog scent. Some dogs are known to follow a scent for 100 + miles. It seems like Buffalo Bluff road and Tyler meet at the railroad tracks. Can’t help but wonder why the scent would end at the tracks. That has to mean something, yes? Or the dogs would have kept tracking it, no? So what circumstances would make the track end. Just don’t get it. Oh, and yea I really have my doubts about Tommy, a guy who scoped the neighborhood late at night to burglarize. I don’t know but to me that takes a lot of nerve and zero scruples, he is a predator. All JMO.
And, the stuff he took from these homes was just so…weird. Dish washing soap? Bath towels? Dish scrubbing pads? Who risks a B&E charge for stuff like that?! Kinda makes you wonder if Tommy is a “thrill junkie”, huh?
I just don’t understand that kind of mentality. No boundaries. It’s almost worse than stealing from a store, it’s so personal. I guess he figures no cameras there. But still and all personal items of little value, anything his family might need, Nintendo games too. It’s so violating. Wonder what Peter Hyatt would think of the products he stole. Could Lynsey really not have known about his lifestyle? Did she think he went to Cosco? lol but not funny. Did he say he was going for a stroll at night. Or was she at school? And did he leave his kids alone? Somethings not right with this picture.
KC WROTE
I do recall hearing the name Autumn Merchant somewhere awhile back. No clue if she’s related to Ronald or not, but you could dig and see what you come up with.
That’s the most I can offer.
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Autum [Orlando's wife] has a maiden name pretty close to that. I think it was Marchand or something similar. She’s definitely NOT related to the PCSO Detective.
Florida, that’s exactly who I was thinking of. Couldn’t recall where I’d seen that name, but you’re right…it was during a search for info on Orlando Traylor.
Hoo boy…there really is such a thing as too much information to process, huh?
I believe he used “dog walking” as an excuse to be wandering the neighborhood at night. But if that were the case, what did he do with the dog during the B&E ? Or maybe he just told Lindsy he was going to walk the dog and set off on his own. You’d think Lindsy would notice he went to walk the dog without the dog (lol), but then, she strikes me as pretty clueless, so who knows.
Is anyone here?
I first want to say I did not ask to move this discussion to exclude anyone, but, to focus on one paticular theory that is very possible and has not been under the microscope.
IMO, No one as had a chance to see this side of the story nor has the public been able to come to a logical conclusion of the Sheffields involvement because of the constant derailment of the direction and purpose of the discussion.
If you are up for a open minded discussion (NOT BASHING) involving the theory based on opinions of the facts and prior and post known actions of the Sheffields to come to a logical conclusion as to their involvement or not, please join in and lets put it to the test and if need be to rest.
carolants said,
in May 17th, 2010 at 12:00 pm
vaquera said,in May 16th, 2010 at 6:40 pmcarolants said,
in May 16th, 2010 at 3:03 pm
This question is in regard to Haleigh and folks in her family. I did see earlier that someone mentioned all the various members of her family,but mainly her birth mothers side,so am thinking you may know. I have communication with someone who says she is Haleighs cousin and comes from rons side. her name is Autumn.i feel real sorry for her cos its not her fault shes related. has anyone heard the name being connected with Haleigh.
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Never heard of an Autumn on either side and I’ve dug around in the families
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Vaquera,ect,
She doesnt live near them at all but is Haleighs first Cousin on Rons side of the family although I am unsure if its Rons mothers side or his fathers side. I dont think shes one of those that would pretend to be related if she isnt,well I hope not.
I also know of a person who says he is Mistys brother but I am unsure. Hes called Robert and is either her brother or married to one of her sisters.have you come across them
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if she is Haleigh’s first cousin that would mean she is Ron’s niece and his only sister is Crystal and her kids are young.
Misty has 2 brothers, Timmy and Tommy and no sister.One is in jail or other one in MA. Do you happen to know what his name is, I am pretty good at diggin’ up people.
Is there a whole bunch of posts missing on this thread??
No vaq, just wanted a place to discuss the Sheffield’s without all the derailments and decide to ov it here. Sorry I guess no one else wants to pursue it. LOL
Hi Vaq & tm39, I didn’t see the post about where the conversation was moving to. I’ll keep checking here for the next couple of hourse to see if you are checking, too. Also, there is backatthemondex.blogspot.com if you are interested.
thank you Cate. I will check it out. I love it here at BNN and wish we all could work through ah theory realistically and logically and come to a agreement in our findings and move on to the next.
This particular theory has had the misfortune of being shut down before it ever gets any where, but, after 15 months and many intelligent and informed posters are MIA… it is time we all just except it is a parallel look a all the players and not as a fantasy theory until proving other wise.
tm39, I love it here at BNN as well, although I do get frustrated about not talking about said person. I respect the Barrett’s wishes— I like how JB puts it, “it’s their house”— but it does feel like “censorship” sometimes, or like participating in the cover-up if that is what is going on.
When you write that this particular theory had the misfortune of being shut down before it ever gets anywhere, do you mean by other posters on this site or in the bigger picture, by LE and the Griffis/Sheffield unwillingness to talk to the press any longer?
ha, TM39 I was on the wrong article
It is my OPINION that Crystal does love her children as well as the grandparents. IMO I can believe that Crystal had very little opportunity to developed a relationship with her children because of Ron.
IMO there is way more to their story than we even know or have been able to uncover.
As a mother it would piss me off to know Ron thought Crystal was not fit to be a mother to his/her children, but, decides that Amber and then Misty where better choices. He’s lucky she did not put a bulet between his eyes herself for the games he has probable played and used the kids to demonstrate his never ending control.
Now even though I can see Crystals side and probable cause for some very bad decisions I do not agree with taking children and subjugating them to a war between the parents in this fashion. It is abuse in its highest form.
If anything Crystal needs more help than any of the Satsuma 5 to defiantly right the wrongs and come to terms with the system that encourages these types of desperate attempts by the alienated or left behind parent.
tm39, I strongly agree with you about Crystal. The maternal family had lots of GOOD reasons to get those kids out of that home. My impression is that Ron conned DCF every time. It is sad that Crystal couldn’t get it together to pass a drug test, although now that I write that I don’t know the truth behind all of those allegations.
Quite frankly, I would support someone in her position “going outside the law” to get those children out of that home. Our country has a long, long way to go with respect to understanding and acting appropriately when it comes to issues of child welfare.
At the same time, you have to be ready to face the consequences if you can’t pull it off. Most parents who decide that their child is only safe away from an abusive/neglectful parent go underground with the child. This case is unusual in that regard (as well as so many others…
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Not sure where I was going from here. Spacey today. Nice to make long posts knowing that it is “just us” here, for now.
Cate (aka Kate) said,in May 18th, 2010 at 1:23 pm tm39, I love it here at BNN as well, although I do get frustrated about not talking about said person. I respect the Barrett’s wishes— I like how JB puts it, “it’s their house”— but it does feel like “censorship” sometimes, or like participating in the cover-up if that is what is going on.
When you write that this particular theory had the misfortune of being shut down before it ever gets anywhere, do you mean by other posters on this site or in the bigger picture, by LE and the Griffis/Sheffield unwillingness to talk to the press any longer?
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LOL
Since day one IMO the obvious would of been Crystal, but, due to Family and friends and Neighbors it was over looked because of the “obvious” evidence being provided by so many that LE claimed to be cooperating.
The media is also to blame for turning a missng child into non stop rumor mill and public battle between a grieving Cumings Family and non grieving Sheffield Family.
The internet has been another story…. Marie and family, friends, Kim P. and her “Investigation team” have blogged since day one and have obstructed justice and the truth every chance they can find.
JMO
I know that it will be solved and I feel bad that both parents may be behind bars and even s Gparents. I think of all the childrn that will now suffer because of these bad desicions. It is very, very sad.
Texas,
I think if not for Misty supposedly failing polygraphs this case may have gone in the other direction. Than you add no word of foreign fingerprints discovered in the house (by foreign I mean other than those known to have been in the MH) I guess. Another thing I don’t understand is how would one lone child’s footprint be found and no others? Was there only one wet spot to make a print? The Sheifelds did have some motive IMO what with the child support payment issue and ones you mentioned. If Misty & Tommy have been pressured into making false accusations than that could put a ca bosh on everything and/or if PCSO has some hidden agenda it’s really screwed.
IMO PCSO agenda is to find HaLeigh any way the have too.
vaquera said,in May Th, 2010 at 12:11 pmcarolants said,
in May Th, 2010 at 12:00 pm
vaquera said,in May Th, 2010 at 6:40 pmcarolants said,
in May Th, 2010 at 3:03 pm
This question is in regard to Haleigh and folks in her family. I did see earlier that someone mentioned all the various members of her family,but mainly her birth mothers side,so am thinking you may know. I have communication with someone who says she is Haleigh’s cousin and comes from Ron’s side. her name is Autumn.i feel real sorry for her cos its not her fault shes related. has anyone heard the name being connected with Haleigh.
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Never heard of an Autumn on either side and I’ve dug around in the families
_____
Vaquera,ect,
She doesnt live near them at all but is Haleigh’s first Cousin on Ron’s side of the family although I am unsure if its Ron’s mothers side or his fathers side. I dont think shes one of those that would pretend to be related if she isn’t,well I hope not.
I also know of a person who says he is Misty’s brother but I am unsure. Hes called Robert and is either her brother or married to one of her sisters.have you come across them
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if she is Haleigh’s first cousin that would mean she is Ron’s niece and his only sister is Crystal and her kids are young.
Misty has 2 brothers, Timmy and Tommy and no sister.One is in jail or other one in MA. Do you happen to know what his name is, I am pretty good at diggin’ up people.
Vaquera,
The full name is Robert Bergman and he says he is Misty’s brother-in-law
The full name of the girl who says she is Haleigh’s cousin is Autumn Boone. The cousin told me she is related to Haleigh from Ron’s side of the family. If Ron has just one sister who’s children are young she might possibly be a cousin of Ron’s and 2nd cousin to Haleigh. I believe Autumn to be truthful,but its this Robert Bergman that doesn’t really add up since Misty has just the two brothers you mentioned,and no sister who this Robert could be married to,to make him Misty’s brother-in-law. I don’t mind communicating with someone if they are truthfully about who they are,but theres some folks out there that do pretend to be related or friends with people involved in certain things and crimes in the media spotlight,although with all respect thats not what I am saying these people are and they may be genuine.
I am becoming very convinced that the PCSO has a number of hidden agendas. I was reluctant to go there for months, trying to give them the benefit of the doubt, but with so many searches revealing nothing but rumors it is hard to draw any other conclusions.
Cate (aka Kate) said,in May 18th, 2010 at 2:41 pm I am becoming very convinced that the PCSO has a number of hidden agendas. I was reluctant to go there for months, trying to give them the benefit of the doubt, but with so many searches revealing nothing but rumors it is hard to draw any other conclusions.
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From my perspective it is more like PCSO has been wearing a brilliant poker face and bluffing their way through this invesigation.
The searches that stand out to me are now the search in Baker County and the recent search at the St.John’s River and both are connected to the Sheffields. If SKB is involved before PCSO the DA and the SAO; I definatly have to question the validity of Tommy’s confession and in those circumstances and collaberation with CS PI.Tommy had admitted he didnot like his attorney because of the things he says and after Tommy stated he was being asked to go along with this very story and stating he could not do it because he did not know if Joe did it.
I am betting the farm that PCSO will solve this case and the guilty will be chargd.
Where is everybody tonight?
Greetings from NYC,
Simon, I absolutely love your blog!, Thanks for following the ‘Adams’ family and the Anthony cases.
I now have your show to look forward to!
Hi to Jan
Shaunna
Greetings from NYC,
Simon, I absolutely love your blog!, Thanks for following the ‘Adams’ family and the Anthony cases.
I now have your show to look forward to!
Hi to Jan
Shaunna
I had this thought that ran through my mind yesterday, and wondered how many people might like to chew on it, just a little bit..
Like maybe an odd human interest story..
Now lets set the stage..
You have a deputy setting at tommys house at 3:24am.. Kind of hard to miss.. Big white Car with Green Markings that Says, Putnam County Sheriff’s Office.. Can you see it.. By the way the Green markings and letters reflect light, so they can be seen at night..
Now, put yourself in the position of Ron, you’ve just got off work, your heading home.. you’ve stopped at a store.. got your cigs, beer and your pretty calm, and you drive down Tyler Rd headed for your house, and as you pass your girlfriends brothers house there is a Cop setting there!!! So, you calmly drive on by and you drive onto your house on Green lane, and you never wonder, ask quesions, make comments… About why the Deputy was parked at Tommys House, not even excited or wondering.. Just another night in the neigborhood???
Especially, after you arrive home and your girlfriend tells you.. Haleighs missing.. and it never crosses your mind that this might involve Tommy.. there is a cop setting there.. and the same cop is headed for your house as soon as you make your dumb bi… girlfriend make the 911 call.
Now, lets go one step further.. Lets back up..
>> Who would need to call 911 and hangup from tommys house, and it would have to be the house phone, since 911 can’t track cell phones.
So, the deputy says when she gets back on the radio..she was verifing the last time the missing child was seen at the residence..
What>>> How can they the pcso responding to a 911 call hangup be responding to verify the last known time a child was seen, if the call was a hangup, and the 911 call to tell them about this, hasn’t been made yet, it will only begin when ron gets to the house and discovered the child is missing, and after he’s passed tommys house and see’s the deputy at tommys house???
Confused yet???
And 58 seconds after the 911 call is made, not by ron.. by his dumb bi.. girlfriend, and the dispatcher says.. “their own their way sir”,
and the deputy at Tommys house doesn’t respond to the call until about 2 to 3 minutes into the 911 call is in progress>>>>>
And the age old question how did tn get between the two deputy’s driving to ron’s house???
Now, remember, its 3:24am — ron gets home, 911 call is made.. 58 seconds later deputies are dispatched, 2 to 3 minutes later deputy responds from tommys house, within one minute all three, male deputy, tn, and female deputy all arrive at same time.
Or is it possible she was already there? and ron ask her to drive up tyler road to see if the deputy was still at tommys house, and she see’s another deputy coming down the road, and turns around to come back and she is behind that deputy, and the female deputy has come up behind her.. so you have this little traveling three vehicle group headed for ron’s house….
I have only a few questions..
1. Did misty make that 911 hangup call from tommys house???
2. what time did was it made??
3. Did misty screw up and not make the call when she was told too??
4. Was ron ticked off at her when he arrived home and found out the call hadn’t been made as she was instructed to make it?? So she had to do it right now!!!!
@Cathyjo and @OJ
I spent all morning in Welaka and the bullshit is crazy. Cathy you have my email so please email me.
Those that pretend to know me.. you know I own Welaka Bait and Tackle and I will find out who you are.
Peace to all.
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