We will be running our regular weekly radio program at 3pm Central on Sunday April 18. It has been quite a week and there is plenty to discuss in both cases.
The PCSO has switched their focus from Haleigh Cummings being missing to Haleigh Cummings being the victim of a homicide. This ups the ante for the players involved.
The case picked up momentum last Monday evening when a Private Investigator shared his 10 months of findings with the PCSO, this resulted in a full blown search of a small area of the St. Johns river, specifically a boat dock in Shell Harbour.
The search commenced on Tuesday at 10 am and the PCSO tried their very best to keep the event low profile but within a short time the site became a media circus. BNN did have a reporter on site and I am hoping that Armando Aldazabal will be joining us on the program to tell us about what he saw and heard. He had the opportunity to talk with some police officials and also witnessed some confrontations between the press and law enforcement. It is said that at least one reporter from a Fox affiliate station was arrested, I am hoping that Armando can fill us in on this particular event,
The search wrapped up on Friday and although the PCSO are being very tight lipped it is possible that some items of interest were found. One rumor is that two cinder blocks were removed together with a length of yellow rope. At least two sources have mentioned seeing yellow rope in the back yard of the Cummings trailer shortly after Haleigh was reported missing.
A pivotal moment in the search came on Wednesday evening when PCSO personnel brought a handcuffed Misty Croslin to the search site. What was discussed has not been revealed, however a communique from the PCSO indicates that they do have ‘persons of interest’ and that they are receiving co-operation from them.
There have also been the usual raft of red herrings however they are getting easier to spot.
Over in the Caylee Anthony case we have yet more antics from the defense team of Baez and company. In a move that is insane Baez has filed a motion to have Judge Strickland removed because of his interaction with a blogger. All I can say is beware of what you wish for. Strickland has given Baez considerably more leeway than many other judges would have, a change in judge could have a very detrimental effect on the defense team.
The exact make-up of the panel is still being ironed out but it should be a great program. To listen in point your browser to www.blogtalkradio.com at 3pm central tomorrow, or click here.
See you all on Sunday
Simon and Jan Barrett


















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Follow-up comment rss or Leave a TrackbackThank you Simon and Jan. I am looking forward to the show. Perhaps we will even new details to add before tomorrow.God Bless you both for caring soooooooo much about these missing children.
I did see that there are 3 or 4 poi in the Brittaney Drexler case. I hope they get her case solved soon as well. May God bring all the missing home deceased or alive.
Regarding Monster Anthony’s duhfense team trying to get Judge Strickland to remove himself as judge, I think we are seeing the work of Cheney Mason here. He’s reviewed the case now and is beginning to make his moves.
Bozo tried it once before a while back (for different reasons) and the “experts” said it was a bad move because Strickland is one of the most patient and fair judges in that area.
So I have to wonder if Cheney Mason KNOWS who would replace Strickland and PREFERS to have that person be the judge? Or is he trying to get the case delayed again? And/or is he trying to get all Judge Strickland’s rulings thrown out?
It IS “A muck of justice” as our least fave “court jester” (Bozo) put it – and it’s all thanks to him.
m2c I 100% agree with you.
Hi, lfJ!
My only comfort is – since there is more than enough evidence to prove it IMO – the right person IS IN jail! We can only pray she’s convicted and stays there.
Needless to say I fear another OJ Simpson travesty of justice.
But I do have confidence in the prosecutors. So far they’ve kept their focus and been very professional.
Paint me the STUPID one…as close as I was following Haleigh’s case, I honestly thought she was stolen by a child molester..unknown. NOT family!
My theory for the 2 cents its worth, is Haleigh wouldn’t go to bed, and as tired as Misty was from her partying, she wacked the baby, and the baby died. In walks cousin Joe and Tommy to hide the body.
Yea??
The right person IS in jail.
I agree with that.
I bet Ronald would like to put his hands around Misty’s throat right about now.
I share your comforts as well as your concerns m2c
BOLDONE3 – I was talking about the Caylee Anthony case.
BOLDONE3 @ 9:17 You said, am
“Paint me the STUPID one…as close as I was following Haleigh’s case, I honestly thought she was stolen by a child molester..unknown. NOT family!
My theory for the 2 cents its worth, is Haleigh wouldn’t go to bed, and as tired as Misty was from her partying, she wacked the baby, and the baby died. In walks cousin Joe and Tommy to hide the body.
Yea??”
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That was the very first theory that occurred to me at the beginning. When I expressed it long ago I was thoroughly trounced for daring to think that M might not have been the “doting babysitter/almost step-mom” that she may have appeared to be (especially when trying to impress R and her hopefully future family-in-law).
I could see it easily, though. A young girl finding her “prince” and then finding she was only a glorified babysitter/maid/mistress etc.
I could see her losing her patience and whacking Haleigh too hard – or even overdosing on a Rx med possibly by accident. So that’s always been one of my theories.
But since LE would not reveal any info and what we knew did not rule out much I proceeded to come up with some other theories too (like lots of people).
Baez and crew have apparently found yet another way to delay Justice For Caylee. I think Strickland has been more than patient and more than lenient/fair to the defense. Simon is right; beware what you wish for; another judge may not be so lenient. What is that saying….the devil you know is better than the one you don’t? Something like that.
thanks simon and jan..see you on sunday
Please do not tell me this can happen with Judge Strickland, This is beyond crazy. What more are they going to try and do next? Casey did murder her child and we all know it. There is no other way around it. Now besides blaming her brother and father for her CHOICES in life is beyond belief.
And poor sweet Haleigh to fall into the hands of these so called human beings. And the poor families that have to deal with her loss.
This country needs to take a better look at these people and get tougher. Too many innocent children have fallen short to these animals. They need to come up and admit to the fact it is their choices, not the choices of these innocent children. These children did not ask to come into this world and did not ask to leave this world in being molested and murdered.
I truly pray for justice for Haleigh, Caylee and ALL the children in this world.
Have any of you read the transcripts on NG of Chelsea saying she doesnt know Joe? He stayed at her home for 2 weeks and she says now that she doesnt know Joe and he is crazy? Chelsea has been involved in this by leaking info to AH from the beginning and from Mass. if she isnt in Satsuma how would she know what was going on unless someone else gave her the info first? Why did she come on the show and not Mistys brother Timmy? I am sure its because he knows Joe real well and he knows what happened. jmo
Tommy said Timmy failed his LDT. Also I dont believe Misty over any of them she has lied constantly. I cant see her being afraid of Joe and then going to Tenn to stay with GH for 2 weeks. If the van is involved there are 2 people who could have taken it Joe or Timmy, I feel it may be Timmy who took the van to help his siblings out and thats why no one talked, the entire family would be in prison for whatever happened. jmo
I don’t recall ever reading or hearing this, maybe I missed it. But was there ever any DNA done on the van to see if any of it might have been Haleigh’s to show that she was in the van and something could have happened to her in the van?
Gotta’ hand it to the Croslin clan for pulling it off this long, though! Grandma H. said, “You weren’t raised to be a liar,” which, it sounds like now, is a lie. You taught ‘em well, Granny.
And their endurance! All these last ditch efforts— THE JIG IS UP! Wish they had such dogged determination wrt legitimate work.
Joe is the killer. Its clear. I have been following all the details, everything, and he cant even look at the camera strait when asked if he killed her..he is the real killer! He will get the death penalty, this is Florida they dont play. The 2 others might also, depends. But the only thing we know for sure at this time is ALL 3 OF THEM WERE THERE AND ONE OF THEM KILLED HER. The question is WHICH one did it. Joe. I wish they would throw him in St Pauls river with cinder blocks to his feet and he will sink to his death. MF’er.I would stand on the dock watch and laugh.
Maybe it is a good idea to have Stickland stand down, maybe there is another judge who won’t give in to Bozo whining, who knows? That lot of pompous arses will try anything at this point, way too much loaded gun for them to handle. I would personally hate to see Strickland off the bench since he has been there from the beginning and a couple of times he has called halt to some of Bozos stupid motions and had hoped that he would further do so. This has turned into a three ring circus and it is time for the nonsense to give way to reality. Casey is either guilty as sin or someone has done a really good frame up job. I personally do not feel that a frame up took place, way too much sticking its ugly head out for that to be the case. There has never been a perfect murder, no matter how thought out it was and this one isn’t either. Bozo is grasping at straws and he knows it, there is no way that anyone will ever be convinced of Caseys innocence and it is time to quit trying. As far as little Hayleigh goes, I have had a gut feeling since day one that she was not alive. Misty knows exactly what happened and who caused it to happen. Poor Ron may have felt that by his continued support of her that she would sometime come clean. Did not happen and it will be like pulling alligator teeth with tweezers to get it out of her. She is covering her butt as all the others are. The only one who seems genuine is Mistys grandma in Tennessee. Possibly Rons mother is alright but there have been times she has been evasive also. It may be a good thing that Ron is in jail, he might go and get vigilante justice taken care of if not. He made that vow on national television and I imagine he meant it. I have watched every moment of the search of that river, nothing that we know of so far but two blocks and a length of rope has come of it. Unfortunately, there are alligators in that river so any tissue or bone would be digested by now. This was their intent all along, to make sure there was nothing left to pull up from the river before opening the mouth. In my own opinion, dangle Misty in that river by a rope and allow the gators to swim around her a while, maybe then the true story would come out. No matter who did the deed, she is directly responsible for what happened and not fit to babysit a puppy or a kitten. Tears don’t do it for me at all. She is a total liar and that is obvious, so now lets confine Misty and Casey in the same cell and maybe they will kill each other and we won’t have to worry about trials or housing them for years!
Nikki, What about Ron? He seems like a sharp guy and always in control. He didn’t figure this out and do something about it like he says he would? Also, you might not want to drown Joe or whomever. I read that it’s quite a pleasant way to go. I think that you get all dreamy and peaceful and relaxed after the initial panic subsides.
Thanks Simon and Jan. I look forward to listening to the program.
Do any of you remember it being said that Tommy son was afraid of him when Hank and Tommy got into that fight over the supposed DVDs? I think Tommy gets scary when he needs his drugs and is violent when he needs them. Could this prove his violence that night? I think it could. And his eyes rolling in the back of his head gives me the creeps. jmo
Tommy has past records of domestic and other violence.
Tommy has a reputation for stealing guns.
Tommy is an addict (his own admissions)
Tommy has place himself at the MH.
Tommy got the rat in his mailbox.
Tommy fought with Ron.
Tommy has fessed up to the PI and named the site where Haleigh is.
We are just assuming he is telling on Joe. It could be its just Misty telling on Joe. Tommy may be telling on Misty. jmo
let the cards fall were they may for both casey and misty if they are both found guilty of hurting or killing or having anything to do with ending the lives of those little girls they should be locked together in the same cell forever to mirror off each others ulgyness and being there mothers are their biggest fans maybe part of there sentence should be that we all get to listen to there jail visits after they are convicted ….their daughters were running wild in the streets doing drugs and ULTAMITLY HURT OR KILLED THOSE LITTLE BABIES AND BOTH LIED AND CONTINUE TO LIE THERE BRATS AND SELF CENTERED PUNKS…WELL misty AND CASEY HAVE THERE MOTHERS.AND THAT DOES NOT COME AS A COMLEMENT AND THATS ALL THEY HAVE HALEIGH AND CAYLEE you HAVE THE WHOLE WORLDS LOVE AND PRAYERS NOW AND YOU BOTH WILL BE IN OUR HEARTS ALWAYS.THE PEOPLE WHO HURT YOU WILL FADE OUT OF THE HEADLINES AND WILL NOT ONLY BE JUDGED BY US BUT GOD WILL JUDGE THEM MAY BOTH OF YOU BABY ANGELS SMILE IN THE SAFE LOVING HANDS OF GOD NOW AM SORRY THIS WORLD COULDNT PROTECT YOU FROM THOSE ANMAILS…..REST IN PEACE BABY GIRLS……
Considering, if in fact Misty is responsible; she was a minor at the time (only 17) – in a position that she should have not been in the first place! RC screwed up when choosing a child bride to take care of his children. (sic)If again, she is responsible, assists the authorities, etc. she could be tried as a juvi’ and it could be found that she was in a diminished capacity at the time of Haleigh’s death.
I am waiting to say who the killer was. Steve Brown says we will be shocked to find out who the real killer was. It’s not over, yet, and may not be for a couple of weeks. The sheriff said we could expect arrests in a couple of weeks. Alot of these people were just in on hiding her body.
In the lie detector or voice analysis video, something Misty said caught my attention:
‘Ron never had her [Haleigh]‘. I tried to make sense of it when I viewed it, and consider possibilities for what she meant by ‘never had her’.
I wonder if she meant ‘Ron never had sex with Haleigh’, or ‘Ron never had custody of Haleigh after Haleigh was reported missing’.
Anyone else wonder about this? If so, what do you think she meant?
My concern is that she meant Ron never had sex with Haleigh, but others did.
Karon, that is really messed up (all those people knowing).
Tobias, I don’t recall hearing about his son being afraid of him, but I would think it goes with the territory. A high-upped Tom would not make his children feel safe and secure, and one was probably very afraid the morning Tom took him to school and was then found passed out in his van.
Any history of Tom physically abusing Lindsy?
There are grumblings that Misty was terrified to nark on her cousin for fear of her & her families life, Joe somehow threatened her if she ever told…………..
So then, why early on did Misty tell Matt Lauer from the Today Show that she thinks it may be Joe? That she doesn’t trust him at all, that he had been in trouble in the past? If she was sooo scared, why would she even mention his name as a possible suspect? It’s all a big LIE.
Word on the street is that Ronald was fixin’ to be bailed out when le said not so fast. Did Ronnie buooooy really think he was going to skate free out of this? He needs to count his calories, he looks like he is eating the entire jail. Addiction problems much? Can’t have the drugs so now he’ll stuff his face at every opportunity given? Why do these thugs get to eat and lay around all day long? I bet Ron feels like he is on a luxury vacation.
Yes in flagler count records lindsy collins defendent against Tommy croslin for domestic violence and also for non support. Lisa for drunk and disorderly. jmo
A lot of stuff happened in Flagler and then they moved down to Satsuma. Timmy lived in orlando then moved to Cresent city. They hide all of their previous faults but they are there if you look for them. This family has a vry long history of trouble and moving when it comes to the surface.jmo
In different interviews it was said that Ron called Tommy to go and check on Misty. He said he went and no one was there. In another interview (I think Misty’ grandma) I heard that Misty said she looked and saw Tommy at the doorway, but she was talking with Joe, she looked back and Tommy was gone, didn’t know where he went. What is possible is maybe Tommy did go to check on Misty, saw she was arguing with Joe, and left. This was possibly before Joe took Haleigh, so maybe there is some truth in what has been said.
Good point JM about Misty fearlessly pointing her finger at Joe to Matt Lauer. If she had only said it in a conversation that she thought would remain private, well then – maybe.
Am I the only one outraged at the “alleged” Lindsy LPN youtube channel, and her death comment!?
In her letter to chelsea she claims Tommy and Joe were really f–ed up. Well if they were how would they think straight on what to do with Haleigh? Misty is the leader in this and the drug dealing (WE GOT A CLOSE LOOK AT THE REAL mISTY ON THOSE TAPES) She is very smart in planning how things should go down, like she tells the UC to go and leave the drugs in the bathroom and Ron will get them. UC is smarter though.lol jmo
Remember, late in her story telling, Misty recalled FOUR people [while waking up from sleep, falling asleep, or whatever].
Hi, Beautiful, didn’t hear about it – please tell more!
Tommy could have been called by Misty to come to the home because Joe did something to Haleigh or was trying to take Haleigh. What I want to know is who actually was at the dock/river when Haleigh was thrown in? Was it just Tommy and Joe, was it just Joe and Misty, was it all three of them? Haleigh’s grandma said they might not have known if Haleigh was alive or not when she was thrown in, for that to be true, you would think Haleigh was in distress/injured before they got there, maybe she was injured to the point of they had to do something with her because if they just called the police or 911, her injuries would point to what was the cause of the trauma, but yet, there was no blood in the house? or, there was no blood in the house because the blood was on the missing blankets? My head is spinning.
Ask Loopy Lindsy… she has more answers than what she says!! JMOO!!
Hey, Jason!
Apparently it’s suppose to be her channel, her song is Seasons Change… a few have subscribe and she is leaving comments. If it is hers, that is!!!
ba WHERE IS THAT i WENT TO YOU TUBE AND COULDNT FIND IT. JMO
Tobias, if she was coherent, but Joe was barely able to drive [paraphrasing her words in the letter], what prevented her from picking up the phone and dialing 911?
‘Barely able to drive’ means she could have outsmarted him more readily than if he were not, and may have been able to physically overcome his scrawny *, too!
Why didn’t she take a board to his head?
Will do, Beautiful! Thanks!
True it makes no sense again. Misty is spinning a story like she always does. But there is probably some truths in the lies. jmo
I just left a comment, that I’m sure will not get approved! Basically asking her if God meant for HaLeigh to die and for her family to be implicated? Also telling her to do herself/children a favor and keep her mouth shut, cause she’s not serving them well. And, I couldn’t resist this one… If Tom get outs… ever… have his eyes checked right along with your itty bitty brain! JMO
I have not been able to catch any information given by Steve Brown. Karon said that Mr. Brown said we would be shocked over who the real killer was? Really? The only shock I would have is if the “real killer” was someone other than Misty, Tommy, or Joe. Is there another possiblity?
http: //www. youtube. com/user /LindsyLPN
BA where do I GO TO SEE lINDSY LPN DEATH THINGY?
If Tom had anything to do with it.. he was sleep walking! Per LindsyLPN
The link is above… broken up! Just cut and paste in browser!
ba, WHERE DO I GO TO READ THIS INFO?
Tobias: http://www.youtube.com/user/LindsyLPN
What ever happened they’ve all know for 14 months where little Haleigh was. Lizard liar misty is the ringleader to all of it.
Tobias, I must not have the page Beautiful posted on, as the YT link above doesn’t have it.
Beautiful, HELP!
Beautiful, did she remove your comment already? LOL! Great comment, though!
hER MY SPACE IS PRIVATE AND NOTHING ON YOU TUBE UNDER LINDSY LPN
No it’s there… I’m looking at it… give me sec!
Did you copy it and place it in a google search… it comes right up
Uh, Lindsy, if you ever expect to get a job, you probably need to do more than just go back to using the surname Collins – for starters – stop bragging about being licensed to Practical Nurse.
Just sayin’, as employers DO search the web to learn more about prospective employees.
Can’t imagine why it’s not working for you guys… I caught site of it on twitter first!
Tobias, she does have a YouTube channel with the Season Change video and others, along with comments – link is posted at 1:44 pm.
Beautiful, totally unreal! “Tom is a hard sleeper, if he did have something to do with this it’s because he was sleep walking.”
Isn’t crazy? And if it’s not hers why hasn’t she had it taken down, yet! I don’t give a damn about her big bed! Silly
*Isn’t it crazy*
i went to you tube and put in seasons change but cant find Lindsy lpn.
Tobias.. copy my post @ 1:34… place in a google search… it’s there!
All i have to Tell Joe,an His lawyer is prove he wasnt their by taking a LDT,no drugs taken before the test.IF HE ISNT GUILTY HE SHOULD HAVE NO PROBLEM TAKING THE TEST.prove to all you were not there,an did not Harm Haliegh,or wasnt a part in Harming her.I really think the gun plan had been made earier on.Misty may have not even known they were comming that night.She was asleep an they came by cracked up,wanting the gun.When men are on crack they flip i saw one man get some strange idea in his head outside a bar that some one had ripped him off,an he knocked the poor old mans teeth out of his head,when in fact the man wasnt even near the other man at anytime that evening .
Old country bar,with people like this.I use to go because i knew the owner an he also had a a decent crowed there when he cooked out, or had a monday night foot ball game.Men also act strange sexualy on that drug.Misty said that Tommy went to the woods sometimes to smoke crack,an They just get freaky on that stuff
Anyway she was woke up by these cracked out men,an thats how things got out of control.They could have even been speed balling .Mixing crack with pills ,a making for a disaster.this Mistys all the blame ,an the only one to blame,an Joe just couldnt be involved is a crock to me,they sad Tommy wasnt either,but we know know he was..We all know shes may acted like a leader,but in fact they all use her ,to get what they want.
I still do not belive Misty would harm Haliegh she just seem to love children to much.an they loved her.An why didnt they get this youngun some help way back when the whole family knew she was in a dangerious situation before Haligh,came into her life.
Put your self in that Trailoer that night she has just turned 17,Shes been on the road 3 days,im sure her body, an minds run down,she just wants to rest.These men roaming the neighbor hood looking for something to steal,or get in to aN THEY DECIDE TO HIT rONS HOUSE.. comes by Already stoned ,an out of money.They are wanting another hit bad.Crack does that.one hit makes you want the next.An it falls apart from there.She still may have not been in,she may have left the children sleep,an took a walk.I think THE SHOCK OF IT ALL,An the brain foggness from her weekend,also played a part.She may be just remembering ,because shes clean from drugs,CLEAR HEADED,AN WHEN PRESSURE WAS APPLIED SHE CRACKED,I,I have saw people repress things when they have a shock from a awful event. Im not going to Judge untill i get all the eveidence.
Tommys lawyer said Tommy failed the test an he told his lawyer ,an they are the 2 who truly broke this case.Not the pi,not Granny The pi was called in after the lawyer got all the things tommy told,he said he turned in the paper work.I dont think the PI would have ever found out anything,hes been trying for 10 months,if Tommy had not told it.So in fact Tommy broke it.I would ask what did he have before Tommy told it.?then what did he have after Tommy an his lawyer called him in.
Yes, I too first saw it a day or so ago, from a twitter post.
I see the post you mentioned (LindsyLPN made one day ago):
“WITH EVERY DEATH COMES NEW LIFE AND NEW BEGINNINGS, THE WAY GOD MEANT FOR IT TO BE!”
She even capped the text – could be trying to justify Haleigh’s death as “God meant it’ or is referring to her relationship with Tom, IMO.
Tobias, try youtube dot com, forward slash, user, forward slash, LindsyLPN
Jason, that is what I’m thinking, maybe both she is speaking of! What a F*8ki5g Libertine!!
Ha ha ha – F*8ki5g Libertine!!
She is one… LOL!! JMO
Found it thanks.
cOULD OTHERS HAVE BEEN OUTSIDE IN THE VAN WITH JOE,AN TOMMY,AN THATS WHAT THE PI MENT WE WOULD BE SURPRISED .
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Does anyone know if that is even Lindsy’s page? Throughout this case, there have been plenty of fakes pretending to be someone involved in this case on twitters, myspaces, facebooks, etc. I just have a hard time believing she would post this kind of verbage when we hear her with Tommy, it’s a different story.
I think it’s someone pretending to be her, but that’s just my opinion.
i think bozo is pissed off at strickland,not about the so called blog angle, i think he is po at him for not falling for all his insane motions and the judge is getting tired of it,someone needs to cut bozo down to size and put him in his place,he puts the duh in duhfense
That was probably in the 2 page letter Tommy wanted her to read and then send to Timmy. jmo
JM, you’re right we don’t know if it is… thats why I said “alleged”. Never-the-less, it’s disgusting and should be removed. Comments have to be approved to be posted… Usually that is something the owner(Lindsy, for example) of the site would do!.. JMO… nothing concrete!
Iwould guess this is probably Crystal rollin if its a fake lindsylpn on you tube. jmo
I also think she is trying to sell her letters to AH as rumored. jmo
Misty even told her mom she hasnt heard from C ROLLINS FOR YEARS. sHE DOESNT WANT ANYTHING EXCEPT MONEY FOR THE LETTERS mISTY SENT HER. LOL JMO
Crystal Rollin is another NayNay from what I have seen on her you tube posts and its funny Lindsy would make her a friend so its probably really C Rollins doing it. jmo
Sad since her little girl is under her care and she comes off as a loser and drug addict.
Makes you feel there will be more little ones like Haleigh when its these types raising them. jmo
http://www.youtube.com/user/LindsyLPN
Surly if it’s a fake, Lindsy has been notified by a few pals!! Then have it removed, remember the incident with the NEW Crystal facebook or myspace (can’t remember which). People were so appalled, yet not many are humming about this?!
has there been any new updates on the haliegh case yet?the cinder blocks they found are any other evidence?been at work all day,haven’t got to watch the news
*Surely
Flowerchild… nothing that I know of!
dang wish we could hear something,it is driving me crazy
crystal rollen would not do that tobias! Being mistys friend does not make her guilty of anything!! She knows as do I misty has been railroaded and set up by law enforcement!
http://palatkadailynews.com
Well one thing is for sure Tommy was the one who said she was at the dock ramp. His lawyer and the PI have confirmed it. Lindsy (if she was in the dark) is probably heartbroken. I dont think she wanted to believe he was involved Denial is common in this bunch.
I think Tommy has said it was Misty and The story from GH about Joe came from Misty. We will know for sure when they release the phone calls they made to her.Funny the story about the board because GH doesnt really say who told that one just one of them down in Florida. jmo
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OJ’s Glove if anyone set up Misty, it was Ronald Cummings & Teresa Neves. I highly doubt le would set up Misty to take this fall. I think that is blatantly obvious and your suggestion is completely retarded, imo.
You can’t trust what comes out of lizard liar eyes Misty. Tommy and Misty could have been on it together and they are blaming Joe.
Simon I would really like to hear Cobras thoughts on this since he met with all these people daily down there. Could he come on to discuss anything or is it forbidden by his agreement? I hope he is handling this better than his arrest and court issues? Let us know how he is and that ALL of us wish him well. jmo
Ain’t no one gonna buy those letters from Crystal Rollen…. why do that, she read them out loud and showed them on youtube… the world knows what they contain. Note to sellers: Do not show the merchandise to the world, then expect to make some cash!! Stupid is as stupid does!
m2c♥ said,in April 17th, 2010 at 9:40 am
lol!!I meant Haleigh!! I knew who you meant. I am tired of “tot mom” info! So I don’t post anything about her.
I swore I knew the answer to what happened to Haleigh.
Am I stupid or do I just live in lala land??
BTW-Your theory is exactly what I believed happened. But why isn’t cousin Joe coming forward and telling the truth then???
And this grandma…she sure thinks the SUN shines with Misty! BELCH!!!!!!!!! And throw your the grandson under the bus why don’t you? (Joe)
Is Lindsay married to Tommy??
Who is Timmie married to??
Sorry for all the questions.
BoldOne… yes Lindsy/Tommy, then there is Chelsea/Timmy…. she is the one on NG the other night!
Kate said,in April 17th, 2010 at 11:17 am Gotta’ hand it to the Croslin clan for pulling it off this long, though! Grandma H. said, “You weren’t raised to be a liar,” which, it sounds like now, is a lie. You taught ‘em well, Granny.
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks cent!!
And which jail is Timmy in?? :O)
I think it is really Lindsy’s – there is a post from Crystal Rollen on the page, and 8 favorite vids, of which all but the most recent one (4/14), includes Lindsy.
A place to post video of herself and Tommy – online scrapbook.
One of the vids includes footage of Misty’s 20-minute polygraph in which she says “Well, there’s FOUR people that keeps coming in my head” “Like, I keep hearing a lot of stuff about my brother . . . the way he has been acting is really, really, strange”.
AnneInTn is a subscriber (to LindsyLPN on YouTube); perhaps she can confirm.
I noticed something about Misty when she is on the dock being told more than likely that Haleigh was thrown in the river. She just stands there, no crumbling to the ground and no wiping of tears, she just stands there. jmo
Jason, I didn’t want to give that one up! I’ve been waiting to ask her tho!
BoldOne, you’re very welcomed… Timmy not in the hoosegow, from what I know :}
I have been thinking some pretty bad thoughts about the area lately and wondered if others have too.
1. You have Chuck a SO who has power over people who are out on bail through his wifes(more his really) bail and bond company.
2. You have Snodgrass who has been out on bond for 3 years and is still awaiting court to proceed.
This stuff needs to be ended. Chucks bail bonds should be closed.
Snodgrass should have been in jail way back in 2007. jmo
JM, so much from ‘these people’ (did I say that?), has been very hard for me to believe because it so outrageous – incredible to me that Flora can say Tom admitted he was involved, while Tom’s attorney says that isn’t so – AAH!
NO, NO, NO, – UNBELIEVABLE but apparently true!
Is Tom’s attorney lieing? Is that possible?
Well, yeah, to answer my own question, I suppose attorneys do lie for their clients; there have been plenty of attorneys found guilty of criminal acts even, but would he lie about this knowing the phone call was recorded?
I wonder if Flora didn’t intentionally lie, but instead was confused and relayed a bit of mis-information on a technicality – (Tom confessing in a phone call).
Beautiful, it’s those F*8ki5g Libertines!!!!
Jason… I know… they all are a bunch of F*8ki5g Libertines!! JMO Heeee Heeee!
Lindsy’s comment about Tom only being involved if he was sleep walking might be her ‘bargaining’ (a stage of grief); if he wasn’t awake when he did it, then he didn’t mean to, and she won’t have to be so horrified at his behavior.
Jason said,in April 17th, 2010 at 3:59 pm AnneInTn is a subscriber (to LindsyLPN on YouTube); perhaps she can confirm
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I follow lots of YouTubes cause of this case.
Jason, confirm what ..sorry i am have just got back here to reading?
(((((F*8ki5g Libertines – ALL OF THEM!!!)))))
tobias-Misty is quite the actress!! How she fooled the people she did for 14 months…is beyond me. I didn’t think she was smart enough.
Anyone know any info on Ron? Has he put a hit out on Misty yet?? lol
Hi AnneInTn,
We’re wondering if Lindsy Croslin’s YouTube page, on which you are a subscriber, is really Lindsy Collins/Croslin’s (the wife of Misty’s brother Tom), or a hoax.
I feel someone has taken Lindsy page and made a YouTube out of it.I feel this is a lie. I dont think its her at all. JMO
Thanks, AnneInTn!
Jason said,in April 17th, 2010 at 4:33 pm Hi AnneInTn,
We’re wondering if Lindsy Croslin’s YouTube page, on which you are a subscriber, is really Lindsy Collins/Croslin’s (the wife of Misty’s brother Tom), or a hoax.
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I think its a hoax myself. Theres lots of mean people out there that would stoop this low to do this.imo
Jason… I think I have become a bad influence on you!!
Ann, I agree she would never talk with C. Rollins since Lindsy blames Misty for all this and C Rollins is in support of Misty. I think C
Rollins is the one who did the you tube fake of Lindsy. I think Lindsy is probably either in shock or is madder than ever about all this. jmo
I also dont believe Tommy is the one who pointed the finger at Joe I think that was Misty. Tommy is probably saying its Misty and he helped. jmo
Sorry but I don’t see Lindsy as she portrays herself… not one bit! Although I believe her to be an “innocent” player… to some degree… I still believe she knows more and was protecting TOM!
tobias said,in April 17th, 2010 at 4:40 pm Ann, I agree she would never talk with C. Rollins since Lindsy blames Misty for all this and C Rollins is in support of Misty. I think C
Rollins is the one who did the you tube fake of Lindsy. I think Lindsy is probably either in shock or is madder than ever about all this. jmo
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TY I agree with about the Rollins. Somethings we have to take with a grain of salt.jmo
AnneInTn,
In the past few minutes, you’ve been removed as a subscriber to LindsyLPN’s channel on YouTube.
I just got that feeling on his last tape that he wasnt going to let Misty put Joe in jail for life for something he didnt do. And he knows she would do it. jmo
May not be her page… but I think those comments are hers!! Could have been spliced from her myspace page
Jason said,in April 17th, 2010 at 4:45 pm AnneInTn,
In the past few minutes, you’ve been removed as a subscriber to LindsyLPN’s channel on YouTube.
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Yes Jason, I did that myself.
LindsyLPN JOINED YouTube on APRIL 14! Posts from LindsyLPN on the 14th include:
“I wait with abated breath”
“It’s all coming down tonite!”
“The countdown is on”
BOLDONE3 said,in April 17th, 2010 at 4:32 pm Anyone know any info on Ron? Has he put a hit out on Misty yet?? lol
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Ron has not been cleared yet. I have a gut feeling that we haven’t heard everything yet and the info that was release may be to get people to talk. I think Tommy is saying what really happened to LE but the phone call to granny may have been a set up with LE’s help to get more info. I think Misty & Ron were involved with Tommy’s help in the cover up. I think Misty is trying to blame Joe & Tommy to clear her but. LE will figure it out. I have faith in them.
Misty and crew made it sound like Joe took off as soon as he could but we are learning that was a lie too. He went to PCSO and hung posters of Haleigh before his ride showed up.
Misty made it sound like he was freaked out and wouldnt go down there to get his stuff(her words) and we now know its false. Did he help like Tommy(possible) or was it Timmy who took the van that night? He could have scratched it since he was on pain meds. jmo
You’re a GOOD influence, Beautiful; why if it weren’t for you I wouldn’t have had the eye-opening epiphany that the problem is they’re all a bunch of F*8ki5g Libertines!@!!
((((( NO GOOD F*8ki5g Libertines – ALL OF THEM!!!)))))
Gotta vent somehow – ha ha. Thanks, Beautiful. I feel better!
OK, Anne – I thought she may be reading here today and removed you.
Heee Heee, the other day I was with my mother and I let loose about my doctor’s office and before I knew it… I lost it, let go and ripped with “What a bunch of F*8ki5g Libertines”! My Mother looked at me and said… “Where the F*8k you get off calling them that”?
**My mom doesn’t usually cuss… much!
[...] » Haleigh Cummings & Caylee Anthony Radio Update Sun Apr/18 … [...]
I needed a good laugh today. I have heard and read so much today my head is swimming. Some of it has been true, some of it BS, some of it who knows. BUT I have not read truer words then these!!!! and could be applied to many of the subjects and people covered today!!!!
beautiful*adams (cent) said,
in April 17th, 2010 at 3:40 pm
Ain’t no one gonna buy those letters from Crystal Rollen…. why do that, she read them out loud and showed them on youtube… the world knows what they contain. Note to sellers: Do not show the merchandise to the world, then expect to make some cash!! Stupid is as stupid does!
STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES!!!!!! lmao
I can’t, and will not believe Ron knew about what happened to Haleigh.
But then again, I live in lala land.
I humbly thank you Treece.
Joe did not leave town immediately. Tobias is right he hung fliers that Haleigh was missing with Misty, no less. If she had been afraid of him I don’t think she would have been out “working” for Haleigh with him.
Also, he had left Tenn against his probation regulations and wanted to get back in the state before he got in trouble for leaving with out their permission. IF he would have done this heinous act and IF M OR T had been scared of him all they would have had to have done was tell LE immediately and they would have found Haleigh and Joe would have been locked up. MORE CROSLIN BS & LIES!!!!!!!!!!
From a mom of a dead child… NO words can help… but prayers sure can…Shall we all put our hurt and anger aside for 2 min. and just pray.Well we had church now pass the offering plate around …this will be for Simon and Jan for NEVER giving up on Haliegh.AMEN.You both have blessed me for being honest for doing this from your hearts and I want to say THANK YOU!!!!YA’LL ROCK
I am sure if Joes lawyer said he talked with PCSD the day he left and hung fliers(which there are pictures of) then it is a fact. His lawyer would not lie because PCSD would know they talked with him. jmo
Chelsea is even lying about not knowing Joe when he stayed there at her house for 2 weeks.
She has been marries to Tim for several years and Tim knows Joe too. I went and looked at his sisters my spaces Kristy and Kaylas they seem to be more than normal nothing like the Croslins LOL check them out for yourselves. jmo
Check out the photos of Joe ,Mom and Ghollar at the wedding. He doesnt look like the crazy guy they claim he is. jmo
tobias…do I just go to myspace and search kristy or kayla overstreet?
Yes their pages are not private. jmo
“WITH EVERY DEATH COMES NEW LIFE AND NEW BEGINNINGS, THE WAY GOD MEANT FOR IT TO BE!”
The new BEGINNINGS mean she has filed for divorce!!
WOW< I found kristys site (myspace) and half way through her pics, a security threat came on my puter so I exited very quickly…strange
I feel confident in saying that I believe Lynsey and Chelsey know more than they are saying. I’m not sure there is any involvement by Timmy, yet I’m not sure there isn’t either. and Ronald Cummings? hmmm, I sure don’t want to believe he could know or be involved, but this case has become one big horror story and nothing at this point would surprise me much. I’m certain that Ojs glove will eventually be eating his/her words when it is made public what Misty Croslin did to this little child. scapegoat??? NOT. OJs glove, please don’t be offended, this is just my opinion. I respect you for sticking to your beliefs, and being brave enough to say it again and again here at BNN, that is cool. but I can’t agree at all with your theory on mistys involvement.
hmmm said,in April 17th, 2010 at 6:05 pm “WITH EVERY DEATH COMES NEW LIFE AND NEW BEGINNINGS, THE WAY GOD MEANT FOR IT TO BE!”
The new BEGINNINGS mean she has filed for divorce!!
############## Is this true or just a thought?######### If true, where did you see it? link?
methinks, I don’t think OJ has defended Misty too much more then I have. I have seen Misty as a victim to many in her child hood. Even though I have not approved of many of the stupid choices she has made in the past few months, I did not believe that she would hurt Haleigh. So I have eaten my crow and moved on. I am sure OJ will do the same. LOL
I don’t care if she has filed… still a odd phrase to use… when a child is involved… especially under the circumstances.
Brand new Haleigh story up on First Coast News.
treece I do hope your right and she is/was not capable of hurting Haleigh, and I promise if she is innocent, I like my crow with musturd so I’ll have to go to super value and pick up a case! LOL
I don’t think anyone needs to make plans for a 8 course meal with crow as the main!! Innocent or guilty, it was their disgusting behavior that made us all feel the way we do!
does any one have a link for lindsay croslins face book page i cant seem to find it
Hey all…are the entire bunch still in jail? I just tried to check but for some reason the SJSO links don’t work for me today. No one got out while I was gone today, did they??
Re my 6:57: I shouldn’t say links don’t work, I should say a link is now missing from the site. I can’t look up current inmates. The INMATE SEARCH link is there on the home page but the JAIL link is gone from the search page.
methinks said,
in April 17th, 2010 at 6:34 pm
treece I do hope your right and she is/was not capable of hurting Haleigh, and I promise if she is innocent, I like my crow with musturd so I’ll have to go to super value and pick up a case! LOL
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methinks, whether she hurt her herself or covered for her bro I don’t care, she is guilty. She needs to be punished.
I ate my crow with ketchup, but it was still nasty!!! lol
Maybe Tommy is telling on Misty and NOT Joe
Where misty is pointing to Joe and Tommy
Joe is just saying he didnt KILL The little girl, he isnt saying he didnt dump her
Tommy may be pointing RIGHT to Misty..
anything granny Holler says is just hearsay anyways
well based on the First Coast News report it seems the mystery is solved. RC’s attorney basically admits it’s Cousin Joe. And he would know. Now the question is what is Misty and Tommy’s involvement. I can buy Misty was afraid of Joe but she pointed the finger too many times at him in the last 14 months to really be that afraid of him.
First Coast News is saying that Ronald said he suspected Joe from the beginning and if we go back and listen to the 911 tape we can here him mention cousin Joe.
FCN says that went back and listened to the 911 calls and didn’t here it but it’s possible some stuff has been redacted from the call.
Hmmmm…..
Looks like all the info is in except means of death. Probably Misty drugged the kids to go to sleep early ro maybe to go out for a bit and OD’d Haleigh. Freeking out she called the only person she could trust, her brother, to come hide the body… but he loaned his truck to visiting Joe that weekend. So Tommy had to call Joe to come over with the truck. They all staged the scene to look like a kidnapping and decided to went dump with Cinder blocks in the river. Tommy is trying to save his and Misty’s ass now to say a new story about Joe going to steal a gun and he took Haleigh and killed her. Doesn’t make any sense. There is no motive. What would Joe get out of taking and killing haleigh? There would be no reason to kill her and no reason for Tommy to help dump the body. Also during all this Haleigh’s little brother slept through the whole thing? If so it may indicate the kids were drugged to go to sleep. Misty caused the death, Tommy covered it up and both trying to nail Joe. Joe must have passed a lie detector test because after the first week when cops talked to him they flat out said they definitly ruled him out as a suspect, which pretty well indicates he passed his lie detector test, but both Misty and Tommy did not.
Ronald Cumming’s Attorney: Father Still Has Hope Tip Was False Lead
Jessica Clark Created: 4/17/2010 4:08:59 PM Updated: 4/17/2010 6:42:55 PM
PUTNAM COUNTY, Fla. — While boats and divers scoured the St. Johns River this week near Satsuma, detectives met with Haleigh Cummings’ family.
Haleigh’s father, Ronald Cummings, was walked out of jail for a while so detectives could also update him on the search for his missing daughter.
His attorney, Terry Shoemaker, told First Coast News that Cummings and his family were advised to make funeral arrangements.
“Yeah, you can understand how Ron would be shocked at that because he’s hoping it ends, but still holding hope that maybe they’re wrong that maybe something else happened and this will end up as another false lead,” Shoemaker said.
Earlier this week, Flora Hollars — the grandmother of Cummings’ ex-wife Misty Croslin – spoke about the case. Hollars claimed Misty and her brother told her their cousin — Joe Overstreet — took the little girl.
Shoemaker said Cummings does not know Joe Overstreet well, but had suspected Overstreet since day one.
“He’s not surprised,” Shoemaker said, “and [Cummings] said if you go back and listen to the 911 tape he made a comment that night about “Cousin Joe.”"
First Coast News has reviewed the 911 tape released by the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office. First Coast News cannot make out where Cummings mentions “Cousin Joe” Overstreet. However, some of the 911 call may have been redacted.
Meanwhile, Overstreet maintained his innocence this week.
Overstreet told First Coast News’ Jackelyn Barnard “I didn’t do it.”
Three days of searching the St. Johns River turned up items that need to be tested in labs as evidence in the case. Shoemaker said Saturday that Cummings believes Haleigh was placed in the river.
“I think he has a pretty good idea that’s what transpired,” Shoemaker said.
However, investigators and the sheriff have not confirmed what really happened to the little girl.
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/topstories/news-article.aspx?storyid=154906&catid=3
I wonder why Timmy would have failed a lie detector test. This coupled with the fact, that Joe was a guest at Timmy’s home is bothersome.
And remember detectives going to Mass and interogating Timmy and his wife for endless hours.
Hmmmmm…… wonder what they were trying to trip them up on.
And why did Chelsea lie last night?
So Ron believes she was put in the river but believes she’s alive like his grandmother still believes?
Misty and Ron were still pretty cozy in those police sting videos despite the ‘divorce’. All those months of her saying look at the other side of the family and living with Ron, you know darn well she told him about Tommy and Joe *if that’s what happened* and Ron didn’t tell anybody.
Toooooo suspicious!!!
Sue
In one of the articles from the other day, Joe says he doesn’t know anything about who took Haleigh or anything or he would call the police himself.
Random Thoughts said,in April 17th, 2010 at 7:47 pm First Coast News is saying that Ronald said he suspected Joe from the beginning and if we go back and listen to the 911 tape we can here him mention cousin Joe.
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Ron also wanted people to think he was just taking care of his family, but then his rap sheet came out and those videos selling drugs and talking about drugs, deals and guns.
So far, Ron is the one with the temper and at one time, Crystal was trying to smear Ron about the accident Haleigh had however her face was badly bruised.
kitty kat said,in April 17th, 2010 at 7:38 pm well based on the First Coast News report it seems the mystery is solved. RC’s attorney basically admits it’s Cousin Joe. And he would know. Now the question is what is Misty and Tommy’s involvement. I can buy Misty was afraid of Joe but she pointed the finger too many times at him in the last 14 months to really be that afraid of him.
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She’s a liar. She was burning up the streets with Donna B acting like big bad arse, flipping people off and IN CHARGE in those police sting videos and gawd the thug cursing in all those phone calls with her family saying she didn’t care how she sounded.
Mrnobody you are mistaken about law enforcement saying that Joe was cleared. The only people cleared by LE was Crystal and Ronald…
treece said,in April 17th, 2010 at 7:08 pm methinks said,
in April 17th, 2010 at 6:34 pm
treece I do hope your right and she is/was not capable of hurting Haleigh, and I promise if she is innocent, I like my crow with musturd so I’ll have to go to super value and pick up a case! LOL
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methinks, whether she hurt her herself or covered for her bro I don’t care, she is guilty. She needs to be punished.
I ate my crow with ketchup, but it was still nasty!!! lol
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ROFLMAO ITS BBQ sauce for me!!!!
I’ll BRING THE BEER TO DROWN IN.
i JUST CAN’T UNDERSTAND:(
Does anyone remember why Ron’s mother didn’t watch the kids that night so Ron could go to work?
Why did he need Misty there after she was off for three days having sex with other people???
Texasmommy39 said,
in April 17th, 2010 at 9:27 pm
I’ll BRING THE BEER TO DROWN IN.
i JUST CAN’T UNDERSTAND:(
Thanks, I will take Corona with salt and lime. LOL
It is good we can have a little humor in the midst of this terribly painful loss.
treece said,in April 17th, 2010 at 9:40 pm Texasmommy39 said,
in April 17th, 2010 at 9:27 pm
I’ll BRING THE BEER TO DROWN IN.
i JUST CAN’T UNDERSTAND:(
Thanks, I will take Corona with salt and lime. LOL
It is good we can have a little humor in the midst of this terribly painful loss.
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Count me in to guys.
I wouldn’t dare leave anyone out!
Texasmommy39 said,in April 17th, 2010 at 10:01 pm I wouldn’t dare leave anyone out!
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TY Texasmommy.
This whole case is like a ripple effect. If Crystal had been a decent mom and stood up in court for her children, Ron would not have gotten custody. If Ron had not allowed a 17 yr. old drug addicted moron who just came off a 3-day bender, I believe Haleigh would still be alive and well.
The lies, bad language, denial, delusion on all sides of the family speaks Volumes!
And, as much as I cannot stand Nancy Grace, I have to give her props when she said, “Haleigh never had a chance.” That sums it up.
I pray that Crystal has woken up and is being a great mother to Jr. and Chloe. And, I hope Jr. is getting counseling because he damn sure needs it!
As far as Haleigh, IMHO, she is dead and gone and has been since 02/09/09.
I think Misty IS the key as well as Tommy.
As far as Bozo trying to get Strickland removed, I cry b.s! If Bozo and company would just do their job, depose whomever, and STFU maybe this trial won’t be post-pone’d again which is my biggest fear – add to the fact that if the defense wins this motion, all the other motions Strickland made will be null and void. And, what judge will decide if Strickland has to step down? I hope it isn’t that “Mr. Rodger’s” idot judge who made the rulings on Dominic Casey.
Ok, for the person who said Steve Brown said people would b shocked, give us a link, I don’t buy it.
Same request for the person who said Tommy’s lawyer said he failed the LDT. Link please
Thanks for the Sunday update programs on the Haleigh case. I look forward to the shows. The background music fitting for this bunch would be the theme song from the movie DELIVERENCE. I can just see them all in the back woods playing banjos.
curious said,
in April 17th, 2010 at 10:52 pm
Ok, for the person who said Steve Brown said people would b shocked, give us a link, I don’t buy it.
Same request for the person who said Tommy’s lawyer said he failed the LDT. Link please
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I couldn’t agree more. Pass that beer buggy around, please! We’re in for a bumpy ride!
Steven Brown said he knew what happened that night and that people will not be surprised. Here is a quote from the article at clickorlando.com:
“Brown said he believes the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office knows who is responsible for Haleigh’s disappearance.
“There may be other people culpable, but as to who killed Haleigh, that’s not going to be a big surprise,” Brown said.”
thank you I knew he didn’t say we would be suprised but “it wouldn’t be a big surprise” just couldn’t find it…
To TN I have always found (amongst everything in this case being strange and not making sense) her refusal to watch her grandkids when Misty said she was too tired, and you would think she knew Misty had twisted off for three days prior. That has always stuck in my mind.
TN- have always wondered “why” she showed up prepared with an 8X10 school photo of Haleigh, did they ever perform foot searches immediatly or did they just cry on TV for help I don’t remember any foot searches calling for Haleigh by family members.
TN- what grandmother would stick by Misty knowing she was a druggie, knowing she likely either “let” your grand daughter “get stolen” (their words not mine) or had some direct involvement in her disapearance.
The only LOGICAL thing I have ever been able to come up with is knowing your son had some involvement be it direct or indirect and needed to keep Misty controlled?
What is the big deal with doing or taking Ocycotin pills excuse my spelling please. What is the high or low they are supposed to give you? Hear a lot about the addiction going on with them, and what is a roxie?
I still have a nagging feeling Ron is involved, more now hten before because if he did suspect joe then he would have gone after him when he was hanging posters with Misty. Ron is in protection mode because he knows eventually its all going to come out. jmo
Pretty convienent too Ron gets on the bus with everyone else in blaming Joe. Like they couldnt have said this to one another earlier?
Why would Misty be scared to tell Ron if Joe did it? It doesnt make sense that if Ron knew on the 911 that joe may have doen it that he wouldnt high tail it over and get him. jmo
And as it was once said in jest on here about Ron rolling people in a ball, he could do that to little skinny Joe with no problem.jmo
I agree, Tobias. If Ron suspected Joe from the beginning, LE would have leaned on Joe and kept leaning on him. And if they didn’t lean on Joe to Ron’s satisfaction, Ron would have gone after Joe himself (justifiably, imo).
I think Joe may have been at the MH that day or even that night. I do not believe that M or T and especially R were afraid of Joe. I am not going to say Joe didn’t have anything to do with Haleigh, just saying IF he was there, it did not go down the way the players are saying (that Joe scared them into silence and they remained too scared to talk even after he left FL.)
JMO.
Cath, I think the story Misty wrote about is a complete lie. She knows what happened and Tommy knows too. Tommy even said on camera for all of us to see that he wouldnt say Joe did it just to get out of jail. Are we really suposed to believe they were protecting someone who they could care less about? If Joe did this they would have been screaming it from day 1 instead of saying I was asleep and woke up at 3 and she was gone. jmo
Misty would have been screaming it on the 911 call, the 911 call would have been made considerably earlier than it was, imo.
Misty more than once had said (paraphrasing) “I was not threatened by anyone and even if I was I would have told anyway.”
Cath, I just remembered when Misty was threatened with a gun and her reaction on that 911 was really diferent. She was scared then but in the Haleigh 911 she is way different. More panic than fear, panic that her story is getting messed up. And I dont understand her use of the our daughter and we were sleeping,like Ron was there the whole time?? That always seemed strange to me when we knew he was at work.jmo
Now that she is blaming Joe I am going to go watch the LDT that TM gave her again bbl
I am happy that the duhfense made the stupid move to remove Strickland and i hope he excuses himself. If he is one of the fairest and impartial judges Fla. has, than that means he is going to be replaced by a judge that won’t be that kind to killer Casey and her bozo lawyers. God, I pray, I pray, I pray that happens. On the other side of the coin, theory is duhfense did this knowing that Strickland won’t pass the motion, therefore, since they know their client is going to get convicted no matter what they do, this gives her a reason to appeal later when she is convicted that the judge did not excuse himself. You never know what bozo and team are scheming.
Judging from Chelsea and Lindsy’s recetn behavior and statments, they did not know, IMO.
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