19-year-old Hope Sykes, cousin of Ronald Cummings, made a “no contest” plea in a court hearings in Putnam County this morning. The evidence that Hope and the rest of the band of happy pill poppers Ronald Cummings, Misty Croslin, Tommy Croslin and ex Texas Equusearch member Donna Brock did seem fairly convincing. It was only a matter of time before someone caved in.
Sykes could face 15 years in prison for her role in trafficking drugs. The prosecutor in her case said she has not made any arrangements for Sykes to testify in the cases involving Cummings or Croslin, who each face multiple trafficking charges.
Sentencing for Sykes is scheduled for April 27. Hope Sykes is ‘low man on the pecking list’ when it comes to the Haleigh Cummings investigation, but I am sure that her Nolo plea is causing the rest of the merry band to order themselves a bottle of Tums from the commissary.
New trial dates for Ron and Misty were also set today.
25-year-old Ronald Cummings, whose daughter was reported missing on Feb. 10, 2009, from home in Satsuma by Croslin, is set for a second pre-trial hearing May 13.
18-year-old Misty Crosilin has her next pre-trial hearing is June 3 in Palatka.
Croslin’s brother, Hank “Tommy” Croslin Jr., is scheduled for a 1:30 p.m. pre-trial today in the Putnam court.
What is also beginning to surface are doubts about some news reports that were circulated last week concerning Misty Croslin taking a lie detector test. Reliable sources are confirming that Misty did in fact attend an interview at the request of Law Enforcement, and the interview was conducted outside of the confines of the jail facility. But, unofficially, we are being told that there is nothing to indicate that a Polygraph was involved.
We will have an update as soon as we get the information.
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It is hard to believe that Hope may be sent away for 15 yrs, and she is low man on the totum poll! Whew!
I agree Karon …thank God I am nowhere near that totum pole..
Well it looks like the house of cards are going to start tumbling down.
Simon thanks,for the report.PCSO is so very quiet.Always!! I want the best out come for all.In the drug case.
Waiting to hear if the bust leads to anything on the missing Haliegh case,because some of these are the same players in that case also.
Karen yes when one compares that a SO was given only 5 yrs.
This yr amount when compared to that case just doesnt quit seem right.
It seems it would most definately be in Hope Sykes favor if she did testify in the cases involving M and R. Looks like to me that LE is cracking down on drug crimes at last. If so they get a huge high five from me!
LOL at Misty’s court date, over 2 months off.
Is CathyJo back?
They are all so young. I know they had to be stopped, but this is a long sentence, especially, for first time offenders.
Hope is not a first time offender if you look at her record, neither is Ron(he was never convicted but he was charged) and Misty well we dont really know because Juvie files would be sealed. We will know when the trial gets underway though. I feel some may turn up later to testify. hmmm. jmo
I wonder what happened in Hanks trial for Doctor shopping today. Does anyone know if hes going to jail too? jmo
So how many millions of tax dollars will putnam and saint johns spend encarcerating first time offenders for selling a few pills when they release sexual predators after just a few years to rape and kill again and again. Great detective work guys. How much did you spend on that batman and robin operation to bust a drug addicted teenager? Why wasn’t that much effort put into finding Haleigh when she first went missing.?
Ah, so many court dates, so little time. These people need their own wing at County Jail and their own private courtroom and judge. Sheeeshhh! It is like a family reunion held in a courtroom on a daily basis for these people. Unbelievable. I would LOVE to see Misty and Ron’s face when they hear that Hope pled guilty and is facing 15 years….and she only has the one charge, right? Should make Ronnie and Misty feel like their jail cells are shrinking in on them! LOL Maybe THIS will get one of them to talk! I hope so!
In case you havent noticed drugs kill too. And its illegal to use, sell or buy drugs, we cant blame LE for doing their jobs. If you want more done about sentencing of SO write your congressman.jmo
Been gone for a few days…. but have tried to keep up! I honestly at this point could NOT careless about all the drug crap, unless it leads to HaLeigh, of course. Yes, drugs kill, and it’s important to wrap that end up, but I would let them walk on that one, if HaLeigh were produced!
@ beautiful*adams (cent) March 31st, 2010 at 3:05 pm
Think its fair to say that has been LEs plan all along. Hope it works eventually.
I would think that LE has told them a deal could be worked on the drug charges if they would just tell what they know about Haleigh. So either they truly DON’T know or they are responsible and the drug charges are a cake walk compared to murder charges. It has to be one or the other. Or, I guess it could be the drug thug theory and they are afraid to talk but their silence speaks volumes at this point because I’m SURE LE would work with them on the drug charges if they’d just tell them where Haleigh is or what happened to them. I am beginning to think that if any one of these people is responsible for Haleigh’s disappearance they will take it to their graves with them! UGH!
JB you are absolutely correct. I am hoping though that if Misty is faced with the 25 years she will finally break.
wubbzy…said it before and I’ll say it again….why not try directing your anger and frustration towards the people RESPONSIBLE for Haleigh….you know the ones that were on drug and sex binges, were dealing and doing drugs, had multiple run ins with the law, the mother that didn’t pay child support or even know when her child was to be at school, got out of school or had doctor appt’s, the mother who couldn’t get off drugs long enough to BE a mother, the father who put a drugged up teenager in charge of his children, the many grandparents, aunts and uncles who were too busy stealing purses, checks, robbing houses, doctor shopping and doing drugs themselves to see Haleigh was in danger with all the violence, drugs and turmoil she was surrounded with….so HOW about we direct our frustration towards THOSE people INSTEAD of LE who has done nothing but try to get to the bottom of this since day one but has been lied to over and over and has had NUMEROUS distractions with the family circus of road rage, domestic disputes, 911 calls for getting roughed up buying drugs, headless rats, burglaries, etc. Cut LE some slack. They didn’t create this mess…the FAMILY did! You know, the same ones who have done nothing but look for handouts since this all happened, are taking Leonard P for all he’ll give them, the ones that want to relocate to Massachusettes because the Welfare is SO much better there…..you want to whine to someone about your tax dollars….how about you start THERE!
lfj – my greatest fear is that Misty IS to blame for Haleigh’s disappearance, or worse, her death and she won’t EVER talk and Haleigh will NEVER be found. She’d rather do the drug time then face murder charges! We may NEVER know what happened!
I wonder when Hope will be eligible parole if she gets the full 15-year sentence.
Kate…I’m just wondering why Ron and Misty pled “Not Guilty”…I mean, have they SEEN the videos? Why not try to work a deal and plead guilty and hope for a shorter sentence. Or better yet…TELL LE WHAT THEY KNOW ABOUT HALEIGH and get rid of the drug charges all together!
I look forward to hearing whether or not a lie detector test actually ever took place. I am also curious as to whether or not Chelsae and Lyndsy are and were aware a lie detector did not take place. Along with that it would be nice to know if in fact they made the statement to Art Harris regarding Misty failing the test and knew she never took the test. Who does that, who gives statements of their personal opinion regarding an event that never happened? Not anyone with out an agenda or it simply never happened and they never said what Art Harris is claiming or not in the context he is claiming. He is getting so out of hand now accusing Donna and Misty of things with absolutely no evidence to prove it, he is just turning Enquirer type of viscous. Art Harris is completely out of control. Once again this child’s right to dignity and Justice falls prey to greed and those who can’t seem to get away from handling things in a gong show way.
God Bless Haleigh and all her families
JB, I think they plead “Not Guilty” because they are working on plea deals. If they plead “Guilty” it kind of closes the cases. If they plead “Not Guilty” it gives them room to negotiate. Whatever deal they try to strike will depend on the information that they give up about Haleigh. That information will have to be verified, and that could take forever, I imagine.
An awful lot of murderers are sentenced to far less time that ONE of the charges for trafficking brings.
One guy in Florida got 8 years for killing a 2 year old. I should keep a list of those things.
It’s unbelievable really.
And yes, Tobias, I am writing a lot of people about the incredibly mild penalties for sexually molesting and in any way abusing, kidnapping and murdering children.
Also, Tobias, I hope you are not expecting Misty’s juvie record to be revealed. Often that’s kept completely separate and private even when someone is arrested as an adult.
JB @ 4:38 – Things could be going on behind the scenes that we don’t know about. No one pleads guilty unless they’re ready for the judge to hand down a sentence right then or go right into the penalty phase at the next hearing.
So Not Guilty allows time for a plea to be arranged – if that’s what they’re working on.
When you look at it from Misty and Ronald’s point of view a sentence for drugs with possibility of parole sure looks a lot better than any deal they could possibly get for murder. Last I heard Florida don’t like to keep death row inmates – they have the death penaly and THEY USE IT!! So I really can’t see what they hope to gain in the way of confessions from either of them knowing what sentance that would bring.
I too am angered by the ridiculous sentences SO’s and murderers receive. But reducing the sentences for drug related crimes won’t solve anything. I’m ALL for making penalties MUCH harsher (a one strike and you’re out rule works for me) for sexually based offenses, ESPECIALLY against children. But drug crimes are often closely related to other crimes such as domestic violence, rapes, burglaries, robberies and yes, even murder. And adults/parents who do drugs often abuse and neglect their children. More often than not when you read about child abuse, neglect and murder, there are drugs involved. Look at Marc Bookal….Victoria Stafford….even Caylee…her mom was turning into a pothead party girl. So you won’t find me screaming “INJUSTICE” when it comes to penalties related to drug crimes because drugs RUIN lives and often end them. How many people are robbed and murdered for money to buy drugs. How many burglaries are conducted for drug money. How many people on drugs drive and kill others. How many murders can be linked to drugs. Drugs may not be the root of all evil but they certainly are pretty dang close.
Tobis Hanks hearing was postponed.To a later date.
Where did you see that? I have been watching the court docket to see what he got and its still the same 3-31, nothing has been added. jmo
Hope is looking at 15 years because she had a prior on 1-3-10 for a drug offense. They combined the charges. I wondered why she plead no contest.jmo
If Misty went in for interigation and not a LDT maybe she is working on a plea or could it be why LE is really out at the Memorial bridge?
It was said by AH this happened on the 26 of Feb. ?????? Just my thoughts on events going on recently. jmo
JB – The problem is that the corrections system does not have enough room so they want to let people out on parole. If someone has a mandatory 25 or something for pills, then they’re not going to get out. The people who will get out are the molesters, rapists and murderers.We’ve seen it time and time again. And that’s on top of often lighter sentences to start with.
Hope Sykes’ lawyer could still have arranged a deal of some kind. Like agree to have her plead no contest in exchange for a lower sentence recommendation from the prosecution.
Those things happen sometimes.
So the poly was a farce? Ugh.
But how would you feel if one of your loved ones was killed or injured by a person who is caught dealing drugs and were let off because there is no room in jail for them? Two wrongs doesnt make it right. More room in the prisons by etting rid of the long death row and life sentences seems more to the point. jmo
Tobias, write your congressman to build more prisons.
Also I believe most of the kinds of violent crimes we’re talking about here are due to meth, heroin, cocaine and things like that. Not so much the Rx pills. Just relatively speaking.
And as far as how I’d feel if someone I knew was killed by someone ON drugs or trying to get money to buy drugs I would want that person to spend as long or longer in jail than the person who sold him/her the drugs.
The FACT is, there is not – and won’t be for some time in the future – enough room in the jails. So I want the murderers in prison for a long time or forever. They are my top priority. It would be pretty awful if they got out before the person who sold him the drugs.
Tobias @ 5:31 – You’re changing the subject.
One situation is: Someone high on drugs or committing a robbery to get money for drugs commits a murder. They should get a VERY hefty sentence.
And a second situation is: Someone who has nothing to do with drugs commits murder. Also someone who should get a VERY hefty sentence.
And a third situation is: A drug dealer who has not committed murder.
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@ 5:31 you are combining the two. Someone who sells drugs AND committed a murder. Obviously they should be charged with both and get a hefty sentence.
Sorry I am for the death penalty in the cases that are cut and dry guilty, not life. There are many of these murderers in for life that should not be alive at all.People actually worse than CA with alot more evidence are in for life and shouldnt be.jmo
Now, you’ve changed the subject again. We were not talking about death penalty. We were talking prison sentences.
You know sometimes “talking with you” is a lot like the way TJ described talking to the people in Satsuma. Like talking to “jello.”
m2c♥, I have to agree with you. There is not enough money to build more prisons. Just for crime labs alone, the wait is 6 months for a DNA result. If I had to choose where the money went, I would have to choose to fund the labs. We would catch these worthless child molesters a lot sooner.
I don’t know what the answer is, but it is true. Child molesters get a lot less time than non violent drug offenders. Not saying dealing drugs is right. I’m just saying I’d rather keep the murderers and child molesters locked up.
Not sure how I feel about the death penalty. I want to agree to an extent, but in the biblical sense, it say’s thou shall not kill. Does that make us any better? Why not put these people in general population? As it is, they are living better than a lot of us. Private room, 3 meals a day, a place to sleep. Some people don’t get that that have not committed a crime.
Well then would you have all the drug dealers and addicts set free on the streets to make room for other offenses? Sorry I just see drugs as a catalyst to other crimes. Tommy was addicted and robbed houses. What if someone had been home or came home while he was there?
The thing is its a domino effect, drug dealer-addict-addict needs money to pay drug dealer for more drugs- so he robs,mugs,anything for the money to get the drugs. And name calling is not nice I have never called you anything bad.jmo
Comparing any well meaning blogger to Satsuma “jello” is just rude, and a low blow.
I am leaving now since the name calling has started. I dont hold grudges because I know everyone is so upset right now so no hard feelings M2C I know you only want tougher sentences for people who harm children and so do I. JMO BBL
I am certain that all defendants are pleadng on advice on counsel, y’all.
Shay… I would have to agree
Anyone else see Ron Ron’s weight gain?
wHERE DID YOU SEE THAT?
WOW He sure has gotten bigger. jmo
she always starts trouble tobias..
Hope’s lawyer made a terrible blunder, they should have stood united and fought these bogus charges they were “entrapped” into. Her lawyer did what was best for “him” not his client.
OJ,Maybe being away from the others is not a bad thing.lol jmo
Tobias, describing what it’s like trying to converse with you is not “name calling.” It’s the best way to describe what happens and I’ve seen it happen for many,many months now as have plenty of others.
We start out talking about A and suddenly your response is about B. And often worded in a tone that puts down the person you’re talking to – like “sorry I am for the death penalty…” As if I wasn’t. We were NOT even talking about that. It’s a great technique for wriggling out of awkward situations and making the other person look either wrong or somehow “mistreating” you. It’s NOT a straightforward discussion at all. I don’t know why I keep trying to have a straightforward discussion after all this time anyway. I guess I just don’t give up very easily hoping for things to improve. Oh, well.
JVM show just said that the judge was talking in language that goes along with Ron getting a plea deal, but not Misty. All the lawyers agreed. Don’t kill the messenger. There is nothing for sure, yet. Maybe NG will have something.
tobias said,
in March 31st, 2010 at 6:41 pm
WOW He sure has gotten bigger. jmo
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Would luvvvvvv for Mizz NanZee, to spout out his canteen list of luxury treats!! Bet jerky/potted meats of some kind are on that shopping list!!!
NG has it on right now.
Karon….. I caught that too on JVM!
Addicts do a lot of things they wouldn’t normally do. I think it would be money well spent to give them help instead of jail. It’s easy for celebreties to get help. Not so much for the average joe. I’m starting to look at Tommy more as a victim. I’m sure there are a lot that won’t agree, but that’s ok. I think “little sister” caused a lot of grief for him. Sounds like she talked him into a lot of things, even Hank Sr insinuated as much. Tommy has a family that needs him. I’d like to see him get the help he needs. Lindsey seems like a good person. She must see something in him. Was he like this before he got caught up in the drug scene?
These pain clinics make it all too easy. I’m sure some are legit, but some are in it strictly for the money.
Darn, I have NG on, but haven’t seen anything about Ron yet. Somehow I don’t see her talking about Ron’s commissary list. That’s too funny. Yuk, potted meat. Can’t say I’ve never had it, but if I can help it, I won’t do it again. Lol
They are just bored and don’t have anything else to do but eat.
NG says misty is responsible for haleigh gone missing, using her logic Marc Klass and Elizabeth Smart’s father are also responsible..
hheir daughters were also kinnapped while they were in the home asleep. Nancy Grace is a sensationalist and giving wrong information.
Storm… yeah, the canned/potted meats… well, I will refrain… too!!
using NGs logic, John Walsh’s wife is responsible for the kidnap of their child who was napped while in her care in a store.
BA, I don”t know why that struck my funny bone. I cracked up.
Yeah, NG really does have a real distaste for Misty. I know she wouldn’t win the most popular award, but NG is harder on her than I think I’ve ever seen her. With NG, it’s somehow personal with Misty. I don’t get that. Not very professional either.
OJ… see what you are saying, although I don’t agree, cause different circumstances/lifestyles! I however, do feel NG needs to put a fire under Ronnie’s skillet, he chose the babysitter… he’s responsible too!! In my book he is Possibly more at fault!!
I don’t care what anyone else says… Ron knew Misty,inside and out! She did not pull the wool over his eyes, he knew what he was getting when they hooked up!
Storm… it’s as if NG (((HATES))) her. Yeah, the meat treatment is funny!! I’m thinking NG has serious issues with the female species, when a child is put in harms way. Look at her grilling of Crystal… yes CS should have known everything about her daughter, but NG ran with that, as if it was CS’s fault that vanished.
stormgardner said,in March 31st, 2010 at 7:07 pm Addicts do a lot of things they wouldn’t normally do. I think it would be money well spent to give them help instead of jail.
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I totally agree.
right BA but their lifestyle wasn’t a choice.. they were raised that way.. in an environment of drugs and uneducation.
OJ… yes they were raised in that environment, but that does not mean that they had to keep on that path. Of course it would be difficult to step away from that, and try to live a “sober” life… but did they even attempt to do so?
Cent:
I don’t know about you, but I got more out of JVM, tonight, than I did NG. NG was more re-runs. The main thibg I got out of NG was that her lawyer said she had the mind of a 13 yr old. A therapist on the show said she thought this was more like a borderline personality disorder. I am going to suffer thru NG again in a little while to see if I missed anything.
Karon… I thought so too… I was wondering if NG’s show was pieced together! It didn’t flow right. Yeah.. I didn’t really latch onto anything new!
OJ’s glove said,in March 31st, 2010 at 7:46 pm right BA but their lifestyle wasn’t a choice.. they were raised that way.. in an environment of drugs and uneducation.
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Yep, so sad. And now that it’s public knowledge that Misty was taken out of school in the 6th grade, I don’t understand why Hank Sr and Lisa aren’t being charged.
Cent:
It was pieced together, because it is getting closer to a holiday (Easter). She always starts having alot of re-runs before a holiday.
cent,
Misty had just turned 17 when this started, and with minimal education or skills to get a job with. Are you saying that at 16 she should have already packed up and moved out? I think that’s expecting a bit much of a child with her background. I blame the parents, not the child. Misty had no choice.
Anyone believe the DB CraigList?
Jax4news said tommorrow they will have new tapes. I think they are the ones of Tommy and Misty. jmo good night everyone hoping for good news in the morning.
I think it would serve the public well if she’d just retire already. I respect the fact that she at least get’s victims names out there, but just watching her do it gets on my last nerve anymore. I used to like her. Maybe she’s gotten bitter after reporting all these horrific cases. I’ll give her the benefit of a doubt, but she’s just plain mean sometimes. I feel for her husband. Lol
I don’t believe it….but if it’s true, I’d like to see Donna locked up for a very very long time.
Me…
Who is blaming the child for the (lacks), not me? Yes her parents are responsible. Yet, apparently not everyone in her family is jacked-up… at one point wasn’t Hank Sr. trying to send her to Michigan? Perhaps to a more stable environment?
Storm, I often wonder how NG is in Real life!
Thanks, Tobias… will check on the tapes tomorrow.. and good-night to you, too!
Thanks Tobias. Good night.
Night all,
Morning comes all too early.
Good night Cent, Good night everybody. Something new tomorrow, yea!
I find it wrong when Americas young are so strung out.Its heart breaking.It would seem when LE sees the young,or hears of it,or anyone for that matter.That rather than set them up,for a fall,an long sentence that many violent offenders,or SO dont get.That they would look for a solution.Like several yrs in manditory in house drug rehab,an counseling.Because of their age,an a chance to reabilitate.our youth in trouble.
Whats wrong with people who would rather see a young first time offender/or young repeat troubled stung out teens sentenced to 25 yrs or more.It wouldnt be the same if it were their child.Im sure.Yes drug are dangerious.But sentence should be set indivigaly due to amount,long term dealing,extent of who they were selling to.Such as school children,or if the drug caused a death.What happened here seems to be an injustice.an this is my op.I knew real drug dealers back in the day,an this bunch are not no where near real dealers.Real dealers wouldnt even hire these to work selling for them.That the type who would shoot you as,they were smiling in your face,or have you killed in jail/prison,for getting busted.
If they wanted to charge in Halieghs case,arrest them for NEG.an go from there.Or indangering a child.Then if evidence proves that they were guilty,or not guilty then go from there.This is what should have taken place in the beginning.But LE must believe M didnt harm Haliegh,with her own hands .Just suspect she cane give them imfo to who did.But just what idf she really is guessing ,an doesnt know.Then would she deserve this.Or sykes or Ronan so one.Now T was commetting other crimes to feed his habit
This really didnt do anything against the drug trade in that county.Then we have worse dealers,who get busted,an turn on other,an walk from their crimes.Or snitches,an who can believe them.would you not think they wouldnt lie.To clear their selves.
This is mop,no need to argue.I think the time should fit the crime,in small cases with young people.Help them better their selves,instead of hardning them further from long hard sentences.Those Jail cells,an prision cells are needed for hardned criminals.Child molesters ,murders, Rapest,Sodimizers.an such.Big dealers who are destroying youth.An the bond issue do i even need to go there,from 1 mill,to 1.35 mill.An a bleepin man who sodomized a 5 yr old gets 30,000 dollar bond.Come on now. Theres a problem with this
Jesus just heeped compassion on me,an it makes me put myself in their shows,an look from that out look.Because my family delt with lies,media,job loss,an such when our love one was murdered at 2yrs old.Family was blaimed.But in the end after all the slaughter on us.It was proven to be an outsider who killed my sweet sisters precious grandbaby.
Praying through all this they find Haliegh,if not what a Shame.
Because Misty is the only one that has ever told NG to kiss her azzzz, an i cant help it i laughed till i couldnt.An she got it back about the jail food issue.Like NG GOING OVER THAT HELPS HALIEGH how?? For a exprosicuter to bring that up,childish behavior.NG Didnt like her own dished out,back to her.Many on her show should have told her to kiss it a long time ago.When she as an adult woman on tv cut them off as if their thoughts on the matter doesnt means nothing,only hers.Just rude,mom taught us that when we were young.she must have been spoiled rude child !!!
Correction on one of my blogs, it wasn’t Misty’s lawyer that said that Misty had the mind of a 13 yr old. It was Peter Odom.
jan57: you have a lot right in your previous posts..I for one refuse to join the lynch mob mentality that NG incites against Misty and that several posters here follow in lockstep. Misty has given 30 hours of interviews to law enforcement yet NG and several posters ask “why won’t she talk?”..They obviously are ignorant of the facts. Misty has told all she knows, which is NOTHING! She had NO involvement with Haleigh missing.
OJ`s Glove–AMEN!
Cent, I see you listened to the Steph Watts show. I listened as well. It appears he went the distance to make sure who was giving him this info, which turned out to be Donna Brocks daughter.
I wonder if Donnas daughter is going to allow LE to examine Donnas computer? Who knows what info they could gain.
I guess it is possible that the craiglist ad could be true. The tapes we heard from Barbara Freemen said that Misty was in it deep. I took that to be drugs, but maybe it was the prostitution and drugs.jmo
I agree too O.J. NG finds one person that SHE thinks is guilty and she nails them to the wrong. Don’t every tell NG that she is wrong. I believe she did the same thing to Trenton Duckett’s mother. I’m sorry her first fiance was murdered, but that does not give her the right to pronounce whether or not others are guilty or not until she has all the facts. I don’t know if Misty is saying everything or not, but I do not believe she murdered Haleigh.
“nails them to the wall” instead of “nails them to the wrong”. My bad yo.
I agree with you all NG can be very rude. I also believe the reason she could be coming down on Misty this way is to put great pressure on her. We all have heard that Misty will watch NG just to see what she has to say about her. Misty becomes very infuriated after listening to NG.
I do not believe Misty intentionally hurt Haleigh. I do believe she knows what happened to her though.
There were NO pleas of “not guilty” in court yesterday. Hope plead no contest to ONE of her TWO charges. Misty, Ronald, and Tommy had their pre-trials continued without entering pleas.
Ronald’s attorney DID say they are working with the State before he makes a plea.
Misty’s attorney requested until June 3rd so he could coordinate between 5 to 20 different depositions before Misty makes a plea.
Geez, could ANYONE get it correct?
Carry on talking about things you “hear”…
Pointless. IMO
Hi, Miss Information!
Few people would welcome actual FACTS more than I would. I’d just about spring for a marching band or at least a few trumpets.
But where do we FIND the facts?
I checked news4jax and the info there contradicts part of what you said. Do you have a source you’d recommend? TIA
Hi, lfj!
If what I understand is correct, then DB’s daughter basically reported a crime and if LE wants to they can get a warrant for that computer and track the ad that way. Of course it might still be difficult to prove who actually posted the ad. Pretty much anyone (including DB’s daughter, for example) could have used her computer and placed an ad pretending to be her. Who knows?
Just more mud from the bottom-feeding muckraker (SW)IMO.
Well each news organization reported the same info. It sounds very credible to me. We saw Ronald and Misty in the court rooms for their appearances. We know the reporters were in there to report what was going on. I do not think they all got it wrong. JMO.
M2c considering this to be taken place in Orlando, Fl while her daughter and her husband were cleaning out Donnas apartment she had there. I think Donnas daughter would have to take that up with that jurisdiction.
lfj
Oh really? So, how many reporter where actually there “in court” yesterday? Since “we KNOW”. I can tell you the number, but I don’t think you can.
NG and the other national media got it WRONG, believe it or not.
No pleas from Ronald, Misty, or Tommy at all. All of those were continued. Ronald and Tommy until May 13th, Misty until June 3rd.
Wonder how all of those media folks and reporters missed reporting on Horvatt (who was sitting right next to Ronald), slitting his wrist open when Ronald was before the judge?
HMMM????
Who the heck is Horvatt?
Miss Info – no need to get ugly with us. The media is the only thing we have to go on most days. We try to take what we read with a grain of salt but we thought that since every major media had the same thing reported it was pretty accurate info. If you have firsthand knowledge and were perhaps there, we’d VERY open to hearing what you have to say. But don’t flog us over what we’ve read in the media. If the MEDIA got it wrong…go flog them.
JB-
Horvatt is an inmate from PC that was brought in with Ronald yesterday morning. He is charged with the 1st degree murder of his girlfriend in 2008. While Ronald was before Judge LaRue, Horvatt cut his wrist open which interupted Ronald’s proceedings for a minute or so. Real nice guy…he gave another woman in the courtroom a “thumbs up” sign once they had him bandaged and walked him out of the courtroom.
I apologize if I had a “tone”. Just get tired of all the crap that is being reported and believed out there. There were a total of 4 reporters in the courtroom. ALL local stations. 3 were having to operate their own cameras. Only one was able to take notes and I assume that was the Palatka reporter, as they are the only news outlet that reported things correctly. I was there and will be happy to tell you about my observations, but not if folks are going to act like I’m a crazy person that doesn’t know what I’m saying.
lfj – From what I gather Donna’s daughter “reported” it to a known internet “rag sheet” (meaning the net’s version of even worse than the National Enquirer). Why would she do that? Must really hate her mother.
I don’t expect she’s going to actually report it directly to LE now that she’s splashed it all over the web. I meant that if LE heard that, then LE could choose to get the computer to find proof. But I kind of doubt they will since they’ve already got DB “stitched up” good on the drug charges.
Honestly, when I think of SW’s and LP’s shows one of two images come to mind: someone “mucking out” the you know what from a farmyard and/or the bottom of a fish tank where all the fish poop ends up.
SW has gotten himself in some trouble with what he’s done in at least a couple of cases.
For example:
http://www.mcstayfamily.com/steph-watts-rumors
Miss Information, I first must apologize. I just read in the palatka Daily News that what you have stated is in fact what was reported in the local newspaper. Perhaps it was that since they entered plea of not guilty in their very first appearances stand at this point.
Everyone can read this @ Palatka Daily News.
Miss Know it all, Ron and Misty had already entered a not guilty plea prior to court yesterday but regardless we treat each other with respect around here. Thanks
Miss Information: I have not seen anyone act like you were crazy. I welcomed the facts and asked about your source because as lfj and JB pointed out all we have to go on is “mainstream media” reports.
Is there a web site for the Palatka one that got it right?
As JB said, we welcome information!
Looking… Hey! No I didn’t listen to Steph Watts…. I read about the “craiglist”.
Thank you Treece. That’s what I thought. See, you folks don’t want real information, you want to gossip.
Still praying for Haleigh.
Miss Information – Please stop fighting and needlessly taking offense and even more needlessly – being offensive. We do welcome solid info.
Are you saying that R and M have never entered any plea?
Miss Info – Don’t let one person speak for all of us. I would say we ALL truly want accurate info but we’ve had people stop by and tell us things before only for us to find out they were yanking our chain. Most of us here basically “know” each other and we can be a bit wary of new comers. But new comers ARE welcome and so are the facts. We truly want to base our opinions and theories on nothing but FACTS but those (facts) can be a bit hard to come by when all we really have is media reports and as you so accurately pointed out, even those can be misleading and/or WRONG.
So please join us but one word of warning. Do NOT wear your heart on your sleeve and understand we’ve all be duped before so we are nothing if not “cautious”.
Now, WELCOME TO BNN!
Miss Info, no I am not interested in gossip. I think most here have expressed their desire for your info and I am off to the garden so enjoy. They are very nice people here I just don’t appreciate you talking down to them. Later
Oh, and thanks for the info on Horvatt. Sounds like he just wanted into the medical ward and perhaps some good drugs…put off his day in court. These people know how to work the system, that’s for sure!
Cent, where did you read about the craiglist? I have not read anywhere about it. I only heard it on the talk show. I try to listen to all I can that pertains to Haleighs case.
I am pretty sure that they had already entered a plea of not guilty at their last appearance in March. I think even Hope did. According to Palatka Daily news Hope did make a plea of no contest to one of her charges. I thought she only got charged one account of trafficking. Are there more charges for Hope that were added?
I think we lost Miss Info dang it….COME BACCCKKKKKK!!!!!
Ok, I’m back. I’m sorry about getting off on the wrong foot, but after the shock of being in court yesterday and then seeing the incorrect facts being reported, I was already half way upset this morning.
I have been following this case, just like all of you, and finally decided to quit relying on the conflicting reports and lack of reports that we have all be suffering with. I found myself in a position to be able to go to court yesterday, so I went.
Do you want my impressions, or strictly facts of what occurred in the courtroom? I chose to post here, instead of anywhere else out of respect to Simon and Jan for keeping Haleigh’s name out there.
What would you like me to tell you about my experience yesterday?
Miss Info – No problem….we have a doghouse that we send people too (I spend a great deal of time there and frequently have a break out of rabies – LOL). Congratulations! You just took the title of being the first new comer to get sent to the doghouse within seconds of making your first post! LOL
Seriously…you are most welcome here but please understand our hearts belong to Haleigh and after over a year of this madness we have a lot of raw nerves and emotions. So don’t take things personally and understand our frustrations. We still squabble from time to time but we apologize to one another when we are wrong, we agree to disagree when needed and we TRY to be respectful (doesn’t always work but we get an “A” for effort).
So welcome! And by the way….how many pounds would you say Ron has packed on? LOL Amazing what being off drugs and being kept in a cell will do for ya, huh?
Ronald is much taller than I expected. He is not by any means overweight at this point. He actually looks great. He smiled alot, and if he is depressed (as I read his Mother stated in an interview outside the courthouse), then you could have fooled me. He seems to be a very self confident person. He looks as if he has possibly been weight training-no gut, but broad shoulders (hard to tell under the jumpsuit). I would NEVER have guessed from his appearance and demeanor that he was an inmate.
Miss Information, On February 18th They all appeared in court and it was reported that thet all had a plea of not guilty to the trafficking charges entered for them. Now Ron did not appear in the actual court room on this hearing,only his attorney Terry Shoemaker. I am only speculating that since those pleas were entered on the 18th of Feb.2010, They still stand now for Misty and Ronald and Hope is the only one with a change of plea. I believe this is why the media reported it the way they did.JMO
Do you know if Hope has other charges? I know she only was reported to have one trafficking charge.
They- sorry for typo
Hope also seemed pretty care free. A lot of the photos attached to the news stories of her were old pictures. She spent a lot of time giggling with the girls she was sitting with (other inmates).
There is a new article out if everyone wants to go read it and migrate that way!?
Now this is what a drug bust is,an check the bonds http://www.wftv.com/news/23016076/detail.html
The Judge stated that Hope had 2 charges pending. She had a public defender. She pled no contest to one of her charges. The other charge was continued for pretrial on March 13th.
The plea was actually made by the PD. The judge then addressed Hope and asked her if she intended to make that plea and advised her that she faced up to 20 years in prison for the charge. She looked at her PD, and she instructed her to tell the judge yes. The judge then asked her how far she had gotten in school. She replied 9th grade. The judge then asked her about her work history. She kind of did a little giggle and said What? The judge said, “where have you worked?”, she replied that she had never worked. The judge repeated that statement, kind of shook his head, and then said he would sentence her on April 27th.
I do not know why NG, etc are reporting that there were not guilty pleas made yesterday-I saw it scrolling also….Breaking news, Misty and Ronald enter not guilty pleas. Thus, my nickname- Miss Information (misinformation)
Miss Information, I guess it was more than likely the pleas they entered on Feb. 18th of 2010. They did not change their pleas.
Over on the left hand side is the archives and you can find the info there. Go to Feb. 2010 and go to feb 18th and you will find the article on their pleas.
What in the world did Hope have to giggle about? I don’t get it!
Miss Info – do you think the “reported” search at the bridge at the St John’s river is related to the Haleigh case? Not sure what they think they’d find over a year later? I would think anything thrown in there would either be long gone downstream or eaten by alligators!
It is not so much that they made a plea of not guilty yesterday, but that it has been continued over with no plea change. I could be wrong though.
l4j
I was aware of those pleas, back when they were made. They were at pretrial yesterday where they have the opportunity to plea again. Hope did, no one else did. The mainstream media made it sound as if they had entered not guilty pleas again on yesterday. If you read the blogs etc from yesterday you can read it all over the internet. The actual BIG news yesterday from court anyway, was that Ronald’s attorney announced in open court that the State was in the midst of working a deal with Ronald on his charges. Very little is being discussed about that.
I agree with you there Miss Information. What kind of plea deal do you think Ronald could gain. He has prior charges although never convicted and now 5 trafficking charges.
I saw the search. I don’t know what to think of it. I know they are reporting that they are looking for a gun for a case out of Volusia County, but what I’m confused about is I only saw LE from St Johns, Putnam, and Flager County at the search site.
I thought it odd to that volusia was not present there. I guess anything is possible though.
Another observation that I found interesting was that AN, TS, and CC left before Hope was called before the judge. In fact, I did not see them even look at Hope one time. Hope’s Mother did not sit with AN,TS, and CC either, and they never spoke with her that I saw. That seemed really strange to me, but it might give us a little insite into some family dynamics that may be going on?
I would not even venture to guess what kind of deal Ronald may be able to swing. I’m as clueless about that as the rest of you. I will say though, that neither Misty nor Fields even blinked when it was said.
Miss Information who is CC? Do you think Hope may testify for the State against Misty and Ronald and her change of plea is part of a plea bargain for a reduced sentence?
Never mind! I just remembered ,Crystal Cummings.
Misty looked terrible. She is white as a ghost, all puffy faced, and looks like she has no clue what is going on around her. Most of the time she sat with a blank stare on her face. She would occasionally mouth to her Mom and Dad. She told them she loved them, asked her if they had been to the lawyers office that morning, and asked them where Tommy was (those were the ones I caught). When they walked her in to take her to the holding room, they walked her right by Ronald. There were within about a foot from each other. Misty looked at Ron, but to me it looked like Ron would not return her look. I saw a reporter state that they exchanged a glance, but not from what I saw, and trust me I was watching like a hawk.
That really must of hurt Misty for Ronald not to even look at her. Did As ,TN and CC look at Misty and what was their expressions?
Misty has had a haircut. Her hair is about the middle of her back now and cut straight across, no longer the real long jagged look that she had before-and no corn rows. Although Crystal Cummings was again sporting quite a hair-do (not trying to be mean, but OMG!!)
Yes, they all looked at Misty, but she did not look at them. TN was not in very good shape yesterday in my opinion. She seemed very upset, depressed, not sure what to call it. AS was exactly what I expected. Gives off an air of “don’t mess with me” and she is the obvious “leader” out of the 3 of them (TN,AS and CC). They actually got up and left the courtroom 2 different times during the proceedings, They only stayed for Ron’s and Misty’s appearances, and they stepped out between them. Right after they removed Misty from the courtroom, they left for good.
I did not see Misty and Hope interact at all either. Not even a glance at each other-they were directly across the courtroom from each other, so it would seem natural that they would look at each other, but not that I saw.
Thanks for your insight Miss Information. Do you think there is a family problem because Hope may be going to testify for the State against Misty and Ronald? This way she could get a lighter sentence.
Nay Nay came into the courtroom for Hope’s appearance in front of the judge-she stood against the wall, looking very uncomfortable and she did not look at Misty at all. She left right after Hope was finished. The only one I saw acknowledge her presence was Hank Sr and Lisa. She caught me staring at her though and quickly looked away.
l4j
I wish I could give you some insite into what might be going on…trust me. Misty is vacant…there is just nothing there when you look in her eyes…spooky kind of. Ron seems very at ease and comfortable. TN also had the kind of lost look…spent alot of time staring at the floor and seemed almost fragile. Hope did not appear upset in anyway to me either. Hank Sr and Lisa were kind of stone faced-not showing much emotion except at one point I heard Hank ask a bailiff where Tommy was. The bailiff answered him something about Tommy’s attorney. He and Lisa left the courtroom shortly after Hope finished and I followed them out, they walked directly across the lawn and into the clerk of courts office.
the inmate who cut himself was reported on: http://www.palatkadailynews.com/articles/2010/04/01/news/news01.txt
Perhaps this is what Hope has to giggle about. Perhaps she is going to testify for the state. I know TN has to be heart-broken. I caanot believe Nay Nay was onlt there for Hope. She and Misty were suppose to be best of friends,unless Nay Nay is turning on her as well.
Miss Info – how WONDERFUL to have you here. We recently lost TJ Hart (reporter) who had been reporting on this case since day one but health issues have caused him to step away from the case. He was our eyes and ears on the ground. Cobra used to blog with us too but the stress of his legal woes caused him to step away as well. Now YOU are our eyes and ears!
Cannot oops another typo.
Oh heck LFJ, if I went back and corrected all my typo’s I would triple the number of my posts! LOL Don’t worry about it…we know what you meant. Sometimes my posts look encrypted! LOL Don’t you hate when your fingers get on the wrong keys! LOL You look back at what you typed and it is all gibberish!
I spoke some to “the locals”. That was a very strange experience. Most of them are angry at the Croslin’s and Cumming’s for all the disruption that they have brought to the area. Many in the courtroom were complaining about delayed cases, etc since this case began. General impression was that neither family feels very welcome around the public. A lot of the “public” are not the sort of folks that I have been around before. It’s hard to describe the people around there without sounding bad, but if you have ever met a really poor person who is also very dirty looking and very loud and unruly….that is what a lot of the folks in the court room were like. It was like they did not know how to behave in a courtroom. Many of the folks had several small children with them, there are winos in filthy clothes roaming around the courthouse, you get the idea. Cobra was not kidding in how he described it to us.
I did not stay for the afternoon session, as I had no idea what time Tommy might appear and I wanted to go check out the search site area before heading back home-I live in the Orlando area so it is a bit of a drive for me.
I cannot promise to be your eyes and ears. I found the experience unsettling. I’m kind of feeling like the only way I would go back up there is if they call for volunteers to search again or if they in fact make an arrest that has to do with Haleigh.
Thanks JB.
Any thing else you guys want info on?
I really enjoyed reading about your observations in the courtroom, Miss Information. Thanks so much!
No problem. Glad to share. I, like the rest of you have been so hungry for ANY morsel of news.
Miss Information , if there is any other things you noticed please share.
I’m looking at my notes to see what I am missing. OH, they brought a guy in while Misty was still in the courtroom. He was charge with 3 Class One felonies. Two were for trafficking ecstacy and one for trafficking cocaine. He plead guilty. He was a college educated guy his family was there also-dressed very nicely, they were all from the Orlando area. Judge asked him if he had ever worked and he said no. His attorney said that they were talking with the State and were asking for 54 months for the 3 charges. The judge asked the attorney what the discovery was, he replied that it was an undercover operation on video tape (sound familiar?). Anyway, the judge accepted his plea and told him that he was facing up to 60 years on what he had plead guilty to and that he would give him his sentence in September and that he should be prepared to immediately be turned over to DOC at that time. He also told him that he was in no way required to sentence him to what the State may suggest. The judge looked over at Misty when he said that. She was just staring blankly in front of her…don’t think she even caught what he was saying. It was odd, as I thought to myself that it would have scared the crap out of me, if I was Misty. It’s almost like she doesn’t understand or something. Just spacey.
I was impressed with Misty’s attorney, Fields. He looked totally out of place in the courtroom. Dressed in a very expensive suit, even tempered, I think she is very lucky to have him and I wonder what he thinks of her? The judge was going to have Misty come back on May 13th like the others but Fields said he had 4 different attorneys to coordinate 5 to 20 depositions with and he would need longer, so her next appearance in Putnam will be June 3rd. How could there possible be 20 depositions? I found that kind of puzzling and a little telling. They are obviously preparing to fight her charges.
Man! Sounds like the Judge was trying to get his point across. This guy only had three counts. Ron and Misty may have to face a hard reality. I hope Misty wises up before it is too late for her to do so.
There were a few other impressions I have after seeing all of the players in person, but they are kind of private observations of mine as to who may know things, etc I don’t feel comfortable sharing that, as I know family members do read here at times. I will tell you that I was pretty much a fence sitter before I went up there. I now feel I have a bit of a handle on who does have knowledge about Haleigh and who does not. But these are just my personal feelings from looking them each in the eye and my own life experiences on “reading” people.
Just remembered something else of interest. The judge addressed both Shumacher and Fields regarding “problems” with them receiving discovery from the State. Fields said something about it being just the one problem and Judge LaRue told him if he experienced any more problems to contact him immediately and he would handle it. Both attorneys told the judge that they felt at this time that they had received ALL of the discovery from the State. One of the reporters mentioned to me that some of the tapes were released to the media before the attorneys and that was a big no no for the State to do. I assume that is what they were referring to.
I’m out of here now to go enjoy a beautiful day. I will check in with you guys now and then. I always catch the radio broadcast.
Thanks again to Simon and Jan!
Miss Information
Thanks for the info.
Would you please give the order of appearances
Hope
Misty
Ron
I know Hanks Jr appeared later and by himself.
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Appearance as in before the judge or in the courtroom?
In the courtroom was
Hope first
Ron second
Misty third
Before the judge was
Ron first
Misty second
Hope third
back to the pool for me.
Miss Information
TY
Both was good..Appreciate it.
Gracias, Miss Information for the firsthand account of court yesterday
Excellent reporting Miss Information. I echo the same “Thank You’s” from above. This has been very interesting and enlightening.
Yes, three cheers for Miss Information! We’ll take all the firsthand info we can get because it is RARE these days!
Miss Information,
Thanks so much for joining us and sharing your observations with us! I found what you had to say very interesting and appreciate that you took the time to do so!
Re people not wanting the facts….here at BNN, unlike many of the other forums, we have very high quality intelligent posters….almost all of us can distinguish between fact and rumour. I do hope you stick around and post with us some more.
BTW, not surprised to hear what you said about Misty. Irrespective of the bravado she puts on, now that she’s got no drugs to cheer her up, and is probably terrified etc, this could be hitting her so very hard. I do hope she survives it.
Miss Information!
Bravo! It is much appreciated.
All yalls trippin!
Miss Information, are you also CIFL on the IS board? Some of your posts here are posted there, just re worded.
Miss Information said,
in April 1st, 2010 at 11:33 am
The Judge stated that Hope had 2 charges pending. She had a public defender. She pled no contest to one of her charges. The other charge was continued for pretrial on March 13th.
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Hi Miss Info,
Just a quick question, and thank you for all of your reports from the court room!
You mentioned that Hope’s charges from her prior court case (the Jan 4th, 2010 charges?)was continued until March 13th. The docket was updated today and this is what it shows:
2010-03-31 25 PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY MARCELLA BEECHING
2010-03-31 25 ON MOTION OF DEFENSE COUNSEL, COURT ORDERED CASE
2010-03-31 25 CONTINUED TO 04/27/2010
2010-04-02 26 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (04/27/2010)
2010-04-02 27 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (04/27/2010)
That is her only other pending charge. I’m just wondering what the March 13th date you heard was since the docket shows her next date is April 27th (the same date she is to be sentenced for her trafficking charges).
*In case anyone is wondering, the charges for the 1/4/2010 arrest is:
2010-01-04 1 POSSESSION OF SCHEDULE II SUBSTANCE
Thank you again, Miss Info
Im troubled .When one wrote why doesnt God stop this?
We wait on the court system to handle all the child murders,an molesters,all crimes.To clean the youth,an older up from addictions .Blame God.But nothings happening is helping,in way of change.How could you the writer blame God .When we know this is wickedness destroying out youth.
If the world,an America would fall on their faces an,repent, fast an pray.As a whole.Then an then only may, we see change.the fact is a fast is a scrafice to God,for getting his attention on this matter.He says some things only come through Fasting, an Prayer.When he spoke to the deciples when some had a problen with a man who had a evil spirit/that drove him to do things.An he wasnt delivered from it when they just prayed.
An if we think theres no evil force/evilness that enters the heart of man,that causes them to do such vile things to our babies,youth,an even to grown people.Then we are just blind,to the true fact of whats taking place,an its steadly getting worse as this world reject God an his road map to a decent life,with our fellow dwellers on this earth.Children,an youth included.
But it is written that evil is running to an fro in the earth seeking who it may deviour.That evil runs to an fro on the earth ,to steal,kill,an destroy. It inters in the hearts of men/women.An traps are set for the youth to destroy them.
From higher up/Dr write scrips that fall into hands of those who dont need them,or people have found out money like dr get can be made from selling them,to those who can afford pain management an need a pain pill every now an then,to those who become strongly addicted.Its a sad state,that this is happening .
Weak people step into traps set for any taker,an this causes crimes.
But those who do crimes againt children ,its a lust in their hearts/not minds, an evil lust that causes them to do vile things to babies an our young.An vileness,is evil an evil surly doesnt come from God.So how do we fight against this??? Because whats happening,an the way its being fought now.By FACT,isnt working!!!
This killing,an sex crimes of our children,that rob them of happy safe full lives.Can truly only be fought when we humble ourselves ab ask our creator/The one who created these humans, before they turned evil became killers/rapest/an molestors.Because what they do to children/effects the rest of thoses little ones lives,how the act,how they live,an if they become offenders,or destroy ther selves from the shame ,an hurt they feel from it happening to them,more so if the perp was someone they knew,as a dad/mom/ or family member.
Look at the known,Unknown/missing,SO In near Halieghs home!!!! Any one had a chance to plan,or have a out side SO freind plan,an abduct Haliegh.An why PCSO is blinded to this fact,Is truly scary to me,for all the other little ones there. An all over the world.
I also have seen no evidence to support Misty,or Ronald murdering Haliegh,only media spins.My Lord what an crying shame it would be .If pressure to solve a case,would cause someone to be charged with a crime they just didnt do.An She has been under intence investigation,an questioning.Freely when asked walked forth,an too all test given to her,when she could have refused all.She from beginning said that she didnt know what happened,an her report of what happened remaind the same. Except reports from letter/cause PCSO hasnt said anything.Keeping quite lets media play this out in the public.
Untill UC kept calling,an befriended her to get pills,an to give her pills for this large bond to be set upon arrest,an many yrs from conviction.An that helps Haliegh how?
I posted A link,on last thread,from WFTV the 15 million dollar bust 2 days ago off coast of FLORIDA,large quinties of serious drugs being brough in to FLA,near Halieghs home town..Those had bonds from 500,000 to 1/ 3 million
An my goodness these 5 are being charged ,an nonds set like these major Drug dealers/trafficers..IT NOT RIGHT WHAT ANYWAY ITS LOOKED AT!! WFTV showed what real dealers are. The even had their own servalence to watch LE in certian areas,an they have This 5 charged with,an bond set,an facing the same thing these big time traffickers are.Shame before God that the PEOPLE,That LE,,an out system is allowed to do this.To some small troubled youth..These 5 werent organized dealers.Just a few friends selling/passing an poppin pills amoung their selves.Not right but not worth getting 25 yrs,or more,Punish,an help then,as well as teach a lesson yes.But not the extent that LE,An this Judge is going to have the power to do,an he knows all the players,an the reports an news flying around.Anabut Haliegh being missing an who was last with her.Hes going to try an stick it to Misty,an he shouldnt be one the bench,because he knows them all,an what they are teying to say took place,an have no evidence to prove it.So this Judge in his heart may blame her an take it out ih the sentence she gets .THATS NOT RIGHT!! remove him from residing over this trial,an bring in a outside Judge,who hasnt followed this cas,an Jury. .
My,My,My,what if this was one of ours.Just thinking about the drug charge.An this is what they are being charged with.They arnt being charged about Haliegh,but when tried that will seal their fate.Its going to be pregidice in that head,over this court trial,an That my friends wont be a fair trial!!! Watch close when tis happens,because in our decendents this could happen to one of ours.An just dont say never not mine,because we never know,do we whats ahead for them.
She told in Tims Session of these that she thought things may have happened (Thought) due to 2 family men,could be involved,but she didnt know for sure it was a thought.Now we havent seen the letter,an we just dont know how it was worded,she may have put down her thoughts as what may have happened (her Thoughts) A writer has yes persued the in law Young wives to get,into what they may believe.Or just pick them for a story!.But one is putting a stop to that reporter calling her.Reporter uses them in a terrible time of uncertenty to spin a story.to make money,to help LE try this girl in the media.This is beginning to be a world wide problem.
This has to be handled in the spiritual,before it can ever be change in the natural.All the court systems are doing is packing them together,or releasing some to only make things worse.Or placeing youth inside to harden them more when they need help.They their selves make money to do this,or a name for their selves in the system,or the news.,an therefor its just like a repeat,repeat,repeat,An theres still no change,its getting worse.Laws are set that dont fit the individuals crimes,an some get more time than deserved,some get less than deserved,an some just walk away ,an contenue cruel crimes.
Haliegh i Pray always that you will be found,an that the true,person/or persons who took,or harmed you.Recieves the tough punishment.
So i pray this drug court is handled in a decent fair manner.
The one who blames God i hope i helped inlighten you,Gods not the blame here
an to others please excuse my spelling,as im ill an it effects my memory,side effect of the diease, i hope is placed into remission,or im heald be a touch from the healer Jesus.
An lol my long post!Just something that i had to say.
I would be vacant to if i had been through,an going through what she has went through sence Haliegh was found missing. She could be pressured so much she could lose her young mind,an i weep because of this,as i weep for Haliegh missing to
Put your self in Mistys shows for one month,an tell me you could stand.an nowt look vacant.Un like our laught flirting posing Casey Anthony.Why doesnt Misty get the help that murderer is getting.But they will help a killer,an crucify a innocent,of a childs death.An i from the bottom of my heart thing she a victum,an Precious Haliegh was,of a SO abuductor.In side friends,or stranger.Either way she didnt harm that Baby an what else can she say,she is suffering to.Drugs dulled this hurt ,an guilt she puts on herself for Haliegh going missing on her watch,an thats enough alone for a vacant stare.let alon the pressure fro LE,FAMILIES,AN OUTSIDER SHE CAN FEEL THE HATE FROM ALL,AN THATS A DAMN SHAME,PARDON ME PLEASE!!
Simon,an Jan,Please remove my long post,i didnt know it was that size.Thank you. An sorry for the problem,i get carried away sometimes.lol .
Mrs Imfo.What was your reason to go to the court hearing?
Did you have someone there being tried?
Do you have family there?
An whats your gain,for going,an reporting this here?
Are you a part of media,or a blog?
The reason i ask the Questions is because of people like The Joy Wrays following these cases,an inserting their selves into them.
I also have been speaking to someone who is a family member in this case.But i do not speak of what they talk to me about,they were in that same court room,If you were there you may have looked them right in the face.an i spoke to them after,about what took place.But i didnt feel,an i still dont feel that when talking privitly to them,i should take it upon my self to speak whats spoken to me by phone,unless i ask first.
.As it may cause more pain when seeing their words told with out approvel.I seek no gain,as one reporter i know has,i just want to help ease them with at least someone they can share with,an i wont use them tell all,they so need people to trust,so as to some how say how this hurts,an how they all are effected.I only pass MOP,an rarly share.because what i repeat could effect my friendship with them.They told me of the court happenings also,an their take through their heart,aneyes because they love the players involves,an care about the outcome of both cases.
If you are honest,about why you chose to share,an why? you see your take on the looks,an vacant stares an anything along that line is you , OP,as to how you saw them.But family may see theire loved ones in a different light seeing pain,distance,lonlyness grief an such,on loved ones faceses as they read them better than us outsiders,because we look for flaws in The NG of the world pick apart,an some see things that are just not there.Because they see not through loving eyes knowing the true person.
Hi Jan, she put the same info on IS under the name CIFL, I asked if was the same person just in case someone stole her posts and got no answer so am now wondering why.
For your imfo,what is IS,is it a blog.I come here an the Caylee daylee,i have chatted there for a yr,or more.I dont go to alot of other places.I keep up with Caylees case at TCD,an Halieghs case here.When Cobra,an TJ were sharing her,i read more than chatted the last 6 mo here.I started chatting a few month bach on this site. So i dont know a lot of chat sites carring this case.If you would please let me know what IS -is,AN i SOMETIMES THING ITS AWFUL THAT WE HAVE TO GO FROM NEWS,AN pcso never lets us know if what we hears truth,or not.I took it upon myself to call a family member in this case,but PCSO DOESNT TELL THEM ANYTHING EITHER!! Shame isnt it,but i guess,or at least i hope they are checking everyone out,even the stranger ,in this case,about Haliegh,because i would hate to see someone reilroaded,or get a charge for something they may not have done. I just dont know who,or what to believe at this point.
If this 16-month old child could swallow an oxy so could have Haleigh.
http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/23021912/detil.html
Go to CNN under Justice and look for this story which took place in the East. I don’t think the link above worked.
Jan57, it is the InSessions message board.
I’m so glad that these people are in jail for dealing and selling of drugs. I am so glad law inforcement went under cover to nail them. I do hope that there is no plea deals. First selling of drug’s is a crime. SO many lives are destroyed by it. So many die from drug use. For the disperance or death of Hayleigh!!!!! I first of all am praying for this sweet child.I do believe that Misty know’s what has happened to this child. I believe it had to do with her drug dealing’s. Maybe Ron also. My theory is Ron or Misty or both owed money maybe for drug’s. The dealer’s werent happy. So remember what Little Jr said that a man in black took his sister. Then Misty did say that she seen 3 men in black. Someone has this child. I know Misty knows but she’s not going to admit this drug dealer’s will kill her. Evn if she talk’s from jail she know’s that they could get her even there. She won’t talk!!!This is just my theory from the beginning. I do feel as if the child is alive. I pray she will be discovered. Or that someone that has her lets her go!
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