Comments on: Obama care will promote abortion on the sly

By: Nancy Reyes

Nancy Reyes — Sun, 14 Mar 2010 03:39:52 +0000

Michelle, I will keep you in my prayers. Alas, I’ve seen this pressure too often in my practice.

the catholic answer is the sacrament of confession, and Project Rachel, that does counseling. The hard part is often trying to forgive oneself.

It is rare for a mother to have to chose to abort to save her life.
Catholics say that if a mom needs chemotherapy, for example, and that chemo kills the baby, then give the chemo.
Ironically, often moms decide to carry the baby, deliver prematurely, and then take the chemo.

In other cases, such as high blood pressure/toxemia, we deliver early and try to save the baby.

Some religions do not see the developing fetus with an equal moral worth as the mom (e.g. Judism) but they still frown on “elective” abortion, which is what would be paid for in this bill.

I am Catholic, so don’t do abortions at all, but most religious people (Protestant, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, Anamist/American Indian) frown on abortions but would allow them to save the mom’s life.

By: Michelle

Michelle — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 23:55:59 +0000

Nancy,

Unfortunatley, I know too well about the circumstances of abortions. I myself went through exactly that at 15. Pressured by family that I was too young, immature, not ready to become a mother, I was convinced abortion was THE only option or I would ruin my life, my body. You are right, it becomes a mindset that numbs to survive the situation. However, I should say that even though I went through that, and can empathize for the women who do make the same choices that I did, I wished someone would have been there to make light of the reality of what abortion really is and how you will never forget it. I did not have enough support for adoption/teen parenting. I know my religious beliefs also do not allow me to think that it is just a “procedure” but I do believe it is murder.In the case where the mother is going to die if she has the child- which I don’t have enough knowledge to understand what type of situation would cause that,then perhaps an early delivery would be the way to go? I am not sure. Just my opinion.

By: Nancy Reyes

Nancy Reyes — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 22:45:14 +0000

Michelle: A lot of woman don’t want to kill their babies when they abort them.
Often they are single mothers, and the father threatens to leave them if they have the baby.
Often the pregnancy would mean they would have to quit school etc. and everyone around them (their own parents, the boyfriend, their best friends) say that abortion is the only thing to do.
And some just don’t think abortion is about babies: they blank it out in their minds.

By paying for it as “normal health care” the government will be able to do the same thing…in the same way that I saw poor (mainly black, but also American Indians) being pressured into tubal ligations in the 1970’s,because they were on Medicaid.

And, of course, making abortion part of normal health care makes it difficult for prolife docs to practice.

By: Dan

Dan — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:46:37 +0000

But American’s fund health insurance policies that cover abortion today! All employer-provide policies benefit from federal income tax exclusion for the employer part of the premium; 50% of those include coverage for abortion–no restrictions. The Senate Bill, by incentivizing movement to health care exchanges where at least some restrictions on abortion coverage exist, will actually reduce government subsidies over where they are today. A vote against the Senate bill is a vote for the status quo, thus a vote for tax payer subsidy of abortion!

By: Michelle

Michelle — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:28:32 +0000

Meaning, that abortions should have to be paid for out of pocket by the mother, not covered through insurance!

By: Michelle

Michelle — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:25:49 +0000

I agree with what both of you have said! It is crazy. Let the mothers who want to kill their unborn children be the ones with the blood and murder on their own hands. I want no part in it.

By: no to obama

no to obama — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 06:39:38 +0000

And another thing we could save a lot of money if they would start drug testing to get welfare.

By: no to obama

no to obama — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 06:37:13 +0000

I personal think this health care bill is a ridiculous. HELLO this is America we should be able to choose if we want health insurance. There is a lot of people on unemployment how are they going to be able to afford health insurance?
And another thing paying for abortions this is like the craziest thing I have ever heard. Our tax dollars paying for a death of a child. Obama is trying to destroy our country. He wants to crumble us so that his people “Muslims” can take over…………….. The American people need to stand up and fight for our country before Obama has his way.

By: Rita J

Rita J — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 04:56:30 +0000

The real absurdity is in allowing the pretence to continue that abortion is a genuine part of healthcare. Abortion is a psuedo-medical procedure. Death of one of the patients,the child,is the intended outcome.

Similarly, end-of-life treatments, where premature death is the intended outcome, can have no place in a genuine healthcare system.