This just in from TJ Hart and we want to give credit to News 4 Jax for the use of the video link.
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Lisa: As soon as they find out what happened to Haleigh, everything will be different.
Misty: I know.
Lisa: I can’t believe they still believe, you know. It’s crazy.
Misty: It’s ridiculous, because they got my bond set so high just because of that and it’s not fair. This has nothing to do with it.
Lisa: I know.
Misty: That’s what they think I’m going to break. There’s nothing to break me on, so they need to leave me alone.
Hank Croslin Sr., Misty Cummings’ father, also enters the conversation.
Hank: We just need to find Haleigh.
Misty: I know.
Hank: That’s what we need to do.
Misty: I know.
Hank: If we can find Haleigh, it would be better for everybody.
Misty: I know. I’ve been, I sit and wonder every day, thinking, just trying to go back and think if I missed anything. I do. Every day. And it’s just not, dad, there’s nothing. I’m telling you. It’s hard.
Misty: God’s going to bring Haleigh home. God’s going to bring Haleigh home.
Lisa: That’s right.
The conversation later turned to the intense media coverage of her case.
Lisa: I think Mrs. Nancy Grace needs to keep her mouth shut until she knows her facts.
Lisa: That’s right. I don’t blame you at all. I mean they need to give you a nationwide apology.
Misty: They’re not going to put me down no more. I’m tired of it. I’m going to start standing up for myself.
Lisa: That’s what you need to do right there.
Lisa: Do you ever get to watch Nancy Grace?
Misty: No, we don’t. I’m glad.
Lisa: Well, yours and Chelsea’s and everybody’s phone calls are going to be on there tonight.
Misty: Oh, good.
Lisa: I know. This is all crazy.
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361 users commented in " Just In: New Misty Croslin Jail Video "
Follow-up comment rss or Leave a TrackbackI believe Misty, 100%. LE are so stupid.
bonanza, I don’t think she knows anything either. This is such a screwed up mess. I am so discouraged, I hope the truth comes out and Haleigh comes home.
Treece,
People in the public are holding onto the hope that Misty will lead Haliegh home, because the alternative is unfathonable. Every indication so far says NO, Misty IS NOT THE KEY to solving this case. But they are still hoping. I expect that with the public. I am APPALLED when I see it from LE.
I believe if Misty were the key she would have talked 11 1/2 months ago. LE continuing to make that claim makes me wonder about them, what are the hiding? Are they covering for someone?
Misty had nothing to do with it.. she either slept thru it or wasn’t home. The cops have wasted their time.
Yes, I believe Hardy, being new to his position when Haliegh first went missing, wanted to solve the case and look wonderful in new appointment, and is now afraid that his OWN reputation will suffer because the case is unsolved.
Telling the public that MISTY can SOLVE the case????? Yet LE do NOT have the evidence to charge her even with hindering an investigation! Loonesy at its best. I have never in my life heard LE make such outlandish claims. I believe LE in this case is incompetent. The pressure of working on this high profile case has gotten to them.
If LE is so stupid,why are RC and Misty in jail for dealing drugs?They aren’t the ones that created this whole mess.
If Misty could get one story straight,stick to it,stop lieing and dealing drugs,that would help.I mean the academy award she would not get for how fake her crying and talking to the media was at the beginning.
Because LE got a tip that they were dealing drugs. IT WAS EASY. But here is the kicker….they KNEW from previous tips that Ron and Misty were involved in drug activity for at LEAST A YEAR, and did NOTHING. STUPID STUPID STUPID.
It is not a co-incidence that they waited until Misty turned 18 to arrest them.
Winter Rose,
i would agree with you were it not for the FACT that misty, for 3 days prior, was doing MASSIVE amounts of MEMORY ALTERING drugs. I believe she IS making stuff up–because she SIMPLY DOES NOT REMEMBER ANYTHING.
I believe these are 2 separate investigations.
They may have not been so stupid, they may have waited until they could arrest 5 at one time, so they will all start turning on each other.
Did anyone catch Padilla on NG? NOW it is:
“I will release Misty, if she gives up SOME information OR information that leads to Haleigh”.
By “SOME information”, I am assuming Misty gives up her name to Padilla. What a publicity hound.
I think Misty knows more than what she’s saying, after all… she was lucid when the A/C guy was there, when GGM Sykes came by with the clothes, and smoked weed with her brother. I know she had been “partying”, but she was functioning.
Turning on each other, for what? Nobody has said anything about Haliegh in a year, despite being in jail. because they have no information.
This belief is easy to prove—–I predict a month from now, oh heII, a YEAR from now, NOBODY in the clan gives any information that LEADS TO HALEIGH.
No more needs to be said.
Lucidity does NOT equate with remembering events hours or days later.
Yes it does, she was NOT popping all those ingredients that night.
Does NOT matter if they were not taking that night. THE EFFECTS OF these drugs can last days or weeks. I KNOW because I DO drug development for a living. I KNOW the Pharmacokinetic and Pharmacodynamic effects of these drugs.
Then you would know that all drugs do not EFFECT everyone in the same way!!
I DO know by ALL accounts that Misty was doing MASSIVE amounts of the drugs three days prior.
I feel even more strongly now that she doesn’t know anything. It disgusts me that the public have allowed LE to use a 17 year old with a disadvantaged background as a scapegoat in this case, and I hope they are all sued to high heaven by her when the truth about Haleigh comes out. This is tragic in more ways than one.
And as for the reporter, what a b…h saying “last person who saw Haleigh alive”. How in the world could she possibly know that? Or that Haleigh’s no longer with us. What a bunch of c..p.
me,
I could not agree more. I have said more than once I dont know why Misty has not sued LE for publically announcing that she can SOLVE this case. They have NO evidence to charge her with obstruction, BUT SHE CAN SOLVE THIS CASE. LE are full of S**T, and I hope they DO get their collective A**ES sued.
It is funny to me how Misty can have selective memory because she was using drugs. She remembers what she wants to remember. I believe someone will spill something that will help.
Me, I tend to hold onto HOPE… for HaLeigh’s safe return.
These people all claim to know that the visits and calls are all being taped so it’s really no suprise that they would be speaking as though they are talking to the general public. Anyone watching these videos have also heard the “watch what you say” comments as well.
I guess they are all very possibly doing just that…Watching what they say.
imo
bjb,
I wonder why Fields isn’t taking it up on her behalf or referring her to a lawyer who will? Lin Woods was all over the press when they were accusing Howard Stern of involvement in Anna’s death, and launched a few lawsuits on his behalf. I’m also confused as to why Fields has not sought to have her bond reduced. Her bond is seriously excessive.
Notice how wishy-washy Misty’s mother is, but her dad isn’t letting up. He keeps saying, “we just need to find Haleigh,” (over and over) He’s not buying her story. All of this is ripping that family apart. LE isn’t going to let up, and he knows it.
We will wait to see if anyone says ANYTHING that is leads to Haliegh.
NOTHING Misty has said about that night can be corroberated, so I dont know what you mean by she remembers what she wants to remember. Besides, everything she said about that night is weird. EVERYTHING, not just a few things. That again tells me she, like a lot of addicts, FILLS IN her memory lapses with events that she ASSUMES happened, that in fact may NOT have happened.
I will say it again folks—Look up the narcotics she was on—MEMORY ALTERING DRUGS, ESPECIALLY WHEN USED IN MASSIVE QUANTITIES.
Odd to that Lisa Croslin flipped from once saying that she believed Misty knows more to now with Lisa acting like a protective Mother hen. Which is it?
I think Fields is an idiot.
Lisa Croslin is very wishy washy KC. You are so right about that!
Karon,
Hank is, imo, off his face on drugs. Some sort of amphetamine would be my guess. He’s super hyper and talking rubbish.
Misty was the last person known to be with Haleigh. She was responsible for her that night. No pitty for her from me. I think she can lie as goods as the rest of the clan! JMO
Me,
Do you think Lisa Croslin might be under the influence as well? To go from calling her Daughter out on National TV one minute saying she believes her Daughter knows more to then being overly protective, well I am just not quite sure what to make of it. I am thinking possibly drugs?
Karon, it looks as though Hanky is fed up, and wants it over with. On the other tapes, when he says “what did your mom say to you”, I believe that perhaps they had a plan, to lean on her a bit.
I will NEVER defend Mistys responsibiltiy to Haliegh. My way? Lock her as* up for 30-40 years to ensure she does not breed.
My concern is finding haleigh. I dont believe Misty can lead LE to Haliegh. I think LE are stubbornly going along a worn out path that will never lead to haliegh. I fear that LE scope is so narrow, that this case will end up a cold case, like another high profile case; Jonbenet Ramsey.
I think Fields knows there is no use, and they are going to add two more charges to Misty. LE will keep adding charges to keep Misty in jail, until they feel she has told them what she knows.
I would hope that LE adds as many charges to Misty as possible. She needs to answer to each and every drug activity charge.
I think Misty has confided “something useful” in her Attorney, and that is one of the reasons why he doesn’t want LP getting his hands on her.
romewi,
I suppose you also don’t pity Jessica Lunsford’s grandparents as they were responsible for her the night she went missing. And how about the Klaas family? No pity for them?
Goodness, where does all this hate for victims come from?
Tuff Stuff said,in February 10th, 2010 at 9:21 pm Me,
Do you think Lisa Croslin might be under the influence as well? To go from calling her Daughter out on National TV one minute saying she believes her Daughter knows more to then being overly protective, well I am just not quite sure what to make of it. I am thinking possibly drugs?
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I think she is a hopeless desperate junkie, as is her husband, and son Tommy. What sort of person robs a kind blind neighbor with their own son? I have never believed anything she says.
Jessica Lunsfords parents aren’t irresponsible drug users. The only person I pitty in this situation is Haleigh. Hate is a strong word. Please play nice…no one used the hate word we are just giving our opinions.
Jessica Lunsford’s grandparents and the Klaas family were not high on drugs for three days prior. When parents protect their kids and bad things happen, I have all the sympathy in the world for them. They took all precautions, and still….
Misty was irresponsible. Irresponisble parents get nothing from me except pity for their offspring—Marc Bookals mother is a case in point.
Karon Cox said,in February 10th, 2010 at 9:25 pm I think Fields knows there is no use, and they are going to add two more charges to Misty. LE will keep adding charges to keep Misty in jail, until they feel she has told them what she knows.
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Or because he’s not getting paid, he just couldn’t be bothered. That has got to be a record bond amount for a first time offender who acted as a go-between in small scale drug deals instigated by a cop, and for about $40 profit each time. She is hardly a scarface.
beautiful*adams (cent) said,in February 10th, 2010 at 9:29 pm I think Misty has confided “something useful” in her Attorney, and that is one of the reasons why he doesn’t want LP getting his hands on her.
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I doubt it. Fields probably knows LP is a publicity hound and would use her up for his own economic gain. She would be a fool to talk to LP (I think there have been enough keystone cops in this case messing it up) and her lawyer knows it, would be my guess.
bonanzajellybean said,in February 10th, 2010 at 9:34 pm Jessica Lunsford’s grandparents and the Klaas family were not high on drugs for three days prior. When parents protect their kids and bad things happen, I have all the sympathy in the world for them. They took all precautions, and still….
Misty was irresponsible. Irresponisble parents get nothing from me except pity for their offspring—Marc Bookals mother is a case in point.
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We’ll have to agree to disagree on this point. What about a parent that has some wine with dinner, then sleeps heavier than usual? Are they to blame?
To me, it’s akin, and even worse than blaming a rape victim because they wore a short skirt and revealing top. It is the perps that should be blamed, never the victims.
I think Hank is the strength of that family, and he is an addict, himself. He may not be as bad off as Lisa. I think Hank know that they are all going to be in prison, if Misty doesn’t talk. Hank says he may be in jail himself in a few days. He knows they will make it rough on Tommy and him, if Misty doesn’t talk.
Misty said, just a few days ago, that she may have to tell them something, now she is totally changing her tune. Why is she playing people like this? Misty may not be talking because she is in love with Ron and Jr., or she is scared to death. Someone may have threatened her and everybody she knows. We just don’t know enough.
I do believe LE knows alot more than we do, and they keep saying they just need one more piece of the puzzle to wrap this case up. Maybe, one of them will let something slip.
Tuff Stuff said,in February 10th, 2010 at 9:21 pm Me,
Do you think Lisa Croslin might be under the influence as well?
Uh….Yeah, I do. My own opinion judging from the fact that she is 40 and looks…..
Me, yes, I’m sure he knows LP rep. I personally think that Misty should NOT be underestimated. I will stress that I do NOT believe she “harmed” HaLeigh, just knows a bit more.
If she knew a bit more, why not tell it? she seems absolutely fearless of anything or anyone.
me you keep referring to Misty as the victim. I’m confused!
Misty, is a screwed up little girl, that will hustle when it’s necessary.
me,
I agree 100% that the perp needs to be blamed. When we have a mother such as Marc Bookals mother, who KNEW about the child abuse record of her husband, to her OWN child, and left ANOTHER of her baby in his care…She gets nothing from me except for a cry to lock her up as well.
If I were Misty’s lawyer, I wouldn’t want LP getting his hands on her. Look at how he turned on Casey when he couldn’t get anything out of her. He blabbed all the details to the whole world, and he will testify in court against her.
Karon.. you’re right!!
I believe Misty may not have been home that night and was not directly involved in Haleigh’s disappearance. She could have returned home to find Haleigh missing and freaked. She may have called Tommy or someone else for help getting rid of drugs in the home. I firmly believe Misty and Ron were both using and selling even then.
I would like to see Misty go to prison, maybe not for 25 years but for long enough to get herself straightened out. I think she might have a better chance of that in prison than she would have outside.
I think the truth will come out one day, but I am not convinced it will come from Misty. I am basing this on the fact that she has not broken yet, and I believe she would have by now.
However, I am keeping an open mind since I do not know what evidence LE obtained from the MH, if any. They claim to have some physical evidence, but our not knowing what that might be continues to leave this case open to a variety of theories.
cathartic,
Yes, I believe you are right. Not enough evidence in the public to formulate a solid theory.
bjb It could be possible that “telling” might implicate herself in some way too.
I keep hearing that addicts aren’t thinking about anything but getting their next fix. JVM may be right in what she said tonight on her show. She said they need to quit giving her those pain pills in jail, if they want her to talk.
If Misty was in fact not in the MH, I can see why she would not tell….Ron would reach out and touch someone. We all know who.
Very well said,Cathartic.
The point that she may not have been at home, could be the key LE’s been raving about. We simply don’t know, but… that could be what “she knows” and is not telling.
If this is LE KEY, how is this information going to solve the case? Misty was not there to see anyone. Did she ask someone to go over and check on the kids? perhaps. But I find it hard to believe that she would not tell LE, now that Ron is safely behind bars.
What makes no sense to me is how Ron and Teresa Neves were so protective of Misty. Down to what appeared as Ron coaching Misty in the interview with Fox’s Greta V. fairly early on and also T.N. saying that Misty was the best ever. Not a bit of that made any sense no matter how you slice it. No sense at all.
Karon Cox said,in February 10th, 2010 at 9:42 pm
I do believe LE knows alot more than we do, and they keep saying they just need one more piece of the puzzle to wrap this case up. Maybe, one of them will let something slip.
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They have had a year to let something slip. Did LE wait for Scott or Drew Peterson to let something slip? LE tell us they have investigated her for a year now, and they have nothing on her.
If you think you’re still in love, and he with you… won’t tell.
romewi said,in February 10th, 2010 at 9:48 pm me you keep referring to Misty as the victim. I’m confused!
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She has not been charged with anything related to Haleigh’s disappearance, and certainly hasn’t been tried and convicted. Innocent until proven guilty means something to me. And if she had nothing to do with what happened to Haleigh, she is a victim in more ways than one.
Oh, she definitely is holding back information. I think she is afraid to admit not being home that night. Unfortunately, sometimes even the most benign fact might be of great importance in an investigation like this. What she thinks might be irrelevant could be an important piece to the puzzle.
There are so many possibilities. LE keeps referring to some kind of evidence found in the home that proves Misty is not being truthful about that night.
A year is plenty of time to BREAK someone. After a year, LE needs to move on.
bonanzajellybean said,in February 10th, 2010 at 9:49 pm me,
I agree 100% that the perp needs to be blamed. When we have a mother such as Marc Bookals mother, who KNEW about the child abuse record of her husband, to her OWN child, and left ANOTHER of her baby in his care…She gets nothing from me except for a cry to lock her up as well.
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I am not familiar with that case, but I agree with you in circumstances like that.
bjb If Misty were afraid and it wasn’t that she were afraid of Ron per say, might she be afraid of someone else? Possibly someone else in Ron’s family even? Remember when the Uncle said he didn’t snitch on kin or something to that affect? Wierd. Anyway, what if Misty is afraid of some other form of retaliation from others or afraid of something that might implicate herself in Haleigh’s disappearance?
Tuff, their good/bad attitudes towards Misty, I’ve always questioned. I don’t trust any of them. I’ve long suspected them of hiding “something”. All three families.
I believe they have some evidence, but they don’t have a body, and they will have to have more evidence to prove their case without a body.
cathartic said,in February 10th, 2010 at 9:51 pm
I would like to see Misty go to prison, maybe not for 25 years but for long enough to get herself straightened out. I think she might have a better chance of that in prison than she would have outside.
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Prison doesn’t straighten people out…quite the opposite. Inside they mix with other prisoners and in most cases, when they leave prison, they move on to far more serious crimes.
What Misty needed was a chance on the outside. Being raised by desperate junkies and not sent to school from grade 6 onwards is pathetic, and no child should have to live like that.
I think the truth will come out one day, but I am not convinced it will come from Misty. I am basing this on the fact that she has not broken yet, and I believe she would have by now.
However, I am keeping an open mind since I do not know what evidence LE obtained from the MH, if any. They claim to have some physical evidence, but our not knowing what that might be continues to leave this case open to a variety of theories.
Hi Guy’s.Just got home trying to catch up!
“God Bless Our Little Angel Haleigh!!”
Wherever She is!
sorry, messed up on the cut & paste above…should have read like this
cathartic said,in February 10th, 2010 at 9:51 pm
I would like to see Misty go to prison, maybe not for 25 years but for long enough to get herself straightened out. I think she might have a better chance of that in prison than she would have outside.
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Prison doesn’t straighten people out…quite the opposite. Inside they mix with other prisoners and in most cases, when they leave prison, they move on to far more serious crimes.
What Misty needed was a chance on the outside. Being raised by desperate junkies and not sent to school from grade 6 onwards is pathetic, and no child should have to live like that.
Hey Cathy!
beautiful*adams (cent), I agree.
I was so hoping like everybody is that something would break by now!
I’ll wait forever tho if it takes it!
I just saw the new tape release? Haven’t listened yet! Any Helful fact’s??
Karen Cox,
evidnece from the MH that would indicate Haliegh is dead? I have been thinking what that could be…an ideas?
CathyJo63 said,
in February 10th, 2010 at 10:11 pm
I was so hoping like everybody is that something would break by now!
I’ll wait forever tho if it takes it!
I just saw the new tape release? Haven’t listened yet! Any Helful fact’s??
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Misty got her hair did!!!
beautiful*adams (cent) said,in February 10th, 2010 at 10:05 pm Tuff, their good/bad attitudes towards Misty, I’ve always questioned. I don’t trust any of them. I’ve long suspected them of hiding “something”. All three families.
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You or me Adam’s!
“I’ll wait forever tho if it takes it!”
Cathyjo63
I am afraid this case is headed in that direction.
Me…
I agree the prison system in this country does not have a great track record for rehabilitation, but in prison Misty might at least have a chance to get clean and get an education. Her chances of accomplishing that on the outside are slim to none.
Karon Cox said,in February 10th, 2010 at 9:55 pm I keep hearing that addicts aren’t thinking about anything but getting their next fix. JVM may be right in what she said tonight on her show. She said they need to quit giving her those pain pills in jail, if they want her to talk.
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IMO, JVM is losing the plot and becoming a wannabe NG. If the Duke case happened tomorrow, I’m guessing JVM would have convicted the boys too. I’m wondering how many of the people on here that have already convicted Ron and/or Misty also believed the Duke boys were guilty. Blind faith in LE & prosecuting authorities, is not a good thing.
I agree. Misty is better off in prison.
BJB:
I don’t think there is evidence that Haleigh is dead. That is one of the hold ups about going forward with this case. I heard early on in this case that they found some kind of timed receipt in the trash that placed Misty elsewhere that night. That hasn’t been mentioned for a long time, now.
Does anyone else remember anything being siad about that?
“Blind faith in LE & prosecuting authorities, is not a good thing.”
Me,
Agreed 200%!
cathartic,
I agree about the prison system. Did anyone catch what Judge Mathis was saying regarding spending money on educating offenders? He is 100% correct imvho. Especially the non violent offenders. They have a much better chance at living a more productive life when they get an education under their belt. The result would be less recidivism and less wasted tax dollars.
…Just saying.
At the same time as far as prisons go, for now, it is what it is. Changes are being made slowly but surely and if people commit crimes they have to be held accountable.
Karen Cox
I never heard about a receipt. Seems to me that that is key, and would it be forgotten by everyone?
Karon, I remember rumbles, but I can’t recall it for a fact.
Adam’s Good God In Heaven,Got her hair did? spike’s? LoL With bangs straight across to look mean in jail..lol It’s not funny i know but that got me!
bonanzajellybean said,in February 10th, 2010 at 10:13 pm “I’ll wait forever tho if it takes it!”
Cathyjo63
I am afraid this case is headed in that direction.
Worries me constantly Bonanza!
They all have told too many stories from day one. Ron says he picked Haleigh up, and people witnessed Misty picking her up. That sort of thing is what LE looks at. Why are they lying about things that don’t make much difference, if they are not covering up?
I believe that Tommy will be the first one to talk. He may be babbling because he can’t take it, anymore.
I am sorry but don’t these idiot’s see that from watching Caylee’s case that they are tormenting Haleigh and everybody who loved and was not involved in her going missing…I’m sure someone in that bunch watched Caylee’s case and probably said to themselves,like we all did and still do unfortunately to to the A compound!God why don’t they tell the truth and let Caylee rest but nooooo they’re doing the same thing now!
Misty is seemingly getting comfortable in there. She apparently tells her Mother that she isn’t afraid and is being treated well enough. She says her Parents can visit her and what not. I might be wrong but isn’t her Mother also facing prison time as well?
But I think Haleigh’s alive and i wanna keep that for as long as I can!
Yeah, Ma and Pa both have cases going.
Karon,
I am not convinced Haleigh is dead. There was never any evidence of that and there is no evidence of it even a year later, but I think it is beginning to be considered as more of a possibility now just due to the passage of time.
She could have been abducted and sold for adoption. If that is the case, I hope with all my heart that she is with kind, loving parents.
That may be far-fetched but I have ached for that little girl for an entire year and I am not ready to give up hope that she is alive and well somewhere.
Tuff Stuff said,in February 10th, 2010 at 10:20 pm cathartic,
I agree about the prison system. Did anyone catch what Judge Mathis was saying regarding spending money on educating offenders? He is 100% correct imvho. Especially the non violent offenders. They have a much better chance at living a more productive life when they get an education under their belt. The result would be less recidivism and less wasted tax dollars.
…Just saying.
At the same time as far as prisons go, for now, it is what it is. Changes are being made slowly but surely and if people commit crimes they have to be held accountable.
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The bad thing is now…imo from what we have discovered because of the way the parent’s allowed Misty and Ronald and Crystal to grow up in that environment they now have to take the consequences b/c of how they were raised! they didn’t do right by them as kid’s!It’s not alway’s the parent’s fault but imho i think in this case it is!
So not only does Misty not hold herself entirely accountable for the reason she is in jail right now but she also neglects to acknowledge her own Parents accountability for crimes they may have committed as well. Misty apparently focuses only on what she perceives as her own potential comforts while she herself is locked up?
Interesting.
Did anybody ever find out why an unmarked car was at M’s brother’s before the 911 call??
cathartic said,in February 10th, 2010 at 10:33 pm Karon,
I am not convinced Haleigh is dead. There was never any evidence of that and there is no evidence of it even a year later, but I think it is beginning to be considered as more of a possibility now just due to the passage of time.
She could have been abducted and sold for adoption. If that is the case, I hope with all my heart that she is with kind, loving parents.
That may be far-fetched but I have ached for that little girl for an entire year and I am not ready to give up hope that she is alive and well somewhere.
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Exactly Cath,Karon…I wanna hold on till there is proof!!
Ya know,It’s odd but when Caylee went missing,no one thought she was alive,even when the A’s said she was kidnapped we just knew……but in Haleigh’s case We feel she is alive and I do hope we are right!
Tuff,yes that’s what i was saying! They are at fault just like cindy!IMO
In Caylee’s case there was physical evidence that she had died. There is no such evidence in this case.
I remember back when her mother Lisa said on camera after the engagement ring story.her mom said,Well we just decided to let em go ahead and get married,We signed the papers and they love each other”
And i swear I thought to myself
“Yea right like they’d have stopped it if she had….pffft.I doubt it seriously because if there ever was a time not to sign paper’s it was THEN!
Cath,No i mean when the story broke!!!
Sorry i confused ya!
Misty seemed to appear quite settled in though. I guess with her growing up moving around all the time and living out of cars it might not take all that long to acclimate herself to her environment. Might even seem rather accomodating to have a bed to call her own for a while?
beautiful*adams (cent) said,in February 10th, 2010 at 9:56 pm Very well said,Cathartic.
The point that she may not have been at home, could be the key LE’s been raving about. We simply don’t know, but… that could be what “she knows” and is not telling.
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If that is what LE means when they refer to her being the key (and I think you might be right), that is ridiculous, as it makes no different to finding Haleigh whether Misty was asleep or out of the house when it happened. Even if she admits she went out, I can’t see how that makes any difference to the investigation.
I 100% agree ME,because she wouldn’t be responsible for other thing’s if you know what i mean if someone else took her nor if things are worse,She was responsible for leaving her alone but what can happen by simply saying,OK I lied.I wasn’t home!I mean she’s going to jail anyway!!
cathartic said,in February 10th, 2010 at 10:14 pm Me…
I agree the prison system in this country does not have a great track record for rehabilitation, but in prison Misty might at least have a chance to get clean and get an education. Her chances of accomplishing that on the outside are slim to none.
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Sadly, this may be true. NO child should have to grow up the way Misty did. I wonder how far Tommy went in school? And Marie took Crystal out of school at Grade 8 and said she’d homeschool her, but never did. The authorities in that area have got to start cracking down hard on parents who break the law re their kids attending school.
Me,that’s what makes me think she doesn’t know and too I thought (and i don’t wanna think it but i do)even if she did she might say that,ya know?
CathyJo…
When the story broke, I thought Caylee might be alive, that Casey had left her with someone so she was free to go partying. But it was not long before they found the car with hairs in the trunk, chloroform smell, etc. It’s kind of hard to dismiss that kind of evidence.
In this case, LE has actually said they were looking for a live missing person. I have not heard that they have any type of evidence that hints otherwise.
–unless they are just not telling us–
I got pregnant and married 3 days into highschool..Had no choice but to get married..I’m not ashamed of it but I can read and write and pretty good sometimes,LoL Just don’t have the best memory now at 47!And I did get my GED!The reason i mentioned it is that i can (but won’t) mention names of quite a few ppl in SE Ky who went to hs and cannot even spell their name! Honest!
That’s Why I am thankful I got my grandson the hello out of SE ky!
Tuff Stuff:
Ron may have gotten a message thru to Misty, and that may account for her change in attitude. Misty is young and idealistic. She is sitting there saying, “They can’t convict me for something I didn’t do.” I am afraid there are plenty of innocent people sitting in
jail. Reality will set in after awhile, I am afraid.
When Misty’s Dad asked her, “What did your mom tell you?”, he may have been referring to Ron saying he had a girlfriend. They may have wanted her mad at Ron, so she would talk. That was when she said that she may have to tell them something. Ron may have gotten a message thru to her, and her attitude changed.
cathartic said,in February 10th, 2010 at 11:06 pm CathyJo…
When the story broke, I thought Caylee might be alive, that Casey had left her with someone so she was free to go partying. But it was not long before they found the car with hairs in the trunk, chloroform smell, etc. It’s kind of hard to dismiss that kind of evidence.
In this case, LE has actually said they were looking for a live missing person. I have not heard that they have any type of evidence that hints otherwise.
–unless they are just not telling us–
Did ya? I knew better,don’t ask me why because I couldn’t tell ya! But everyone here in Tn knew! So i guess i assumed the world thought like us.LoL
Karon,I agree with you,I think lisa told her that to turn her on Ron!
CathyJo63 said,in February 10th, 2010 at 11:02 pm Me,that’s what makes me think she doesn’t know and too I thought (and i don’t wanna think it but i do)even if she did she might say that,ya know?
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I’m not 100% sure she would admit to having left the house that night. She may be scared everyone will blame her if she admits it, and may think it makes no difference to finding Haleigh if she doesn’t. She was basically a kid herself at the time it happened, and grew up with parents who were thieves and liars….so I’m not sure on that. But I think when she started to point the finger at Joe & Tommy from day 1, she was pointing them in the right direction….sadly, it seemed LE didn’t want to look in that direction, and all the bloggers (well, not all of us) and NG were saying things like Tommy’s a nice guy and Misty is throwing him under the bus.
It wouldn’t turn Misty against Ron if that whole alleged GF thing were merely a farce. (Just thinking out loud.)
Cath,even when LP was coming to bond her out,OMG i blew my gasket….I hated him then because i thought he’s gonna help this No count murderer!
Right Tuff,it wouldn’t but knowing her parents they thought so cause even Hank said,I told you to stay away from him!
LoL@Thinking out loud!
There are too many cases of children being harmed by parental “mistakes.” Haleigh is one. Misty is one, too.
From raising kids in drug-infested environment to neglect and abuse, kids are put in harm’s way every day and nothing is done about it. And even if the child dies often the parent is not held accountable.
We had several reports in my area of mothers having infants sleep in the bed with them, mom rolls over on the baby and it dies. It happens over and over, and over and over it is ruled an accidental death.
Or how about a custodial parent who leaves kids with someone they KNOW is either abusive or neglectful and basically not fit to babysit a goldfish…and if the child is harmed and the custodial parent is not held accountable.
I am really tired of children being victimized not only by ignorant parents but by social services agencies that all too often look the other way even when there are mounds of evidence of neglect, abuse, drug use or whatever, in the home.
I still hold Ron accountable for Haleigh’s disappearance, even though he “was at work.”
In my opinion, Hank is a self serving opportunist who would sell his kids for $10 if he could. Education as a child is free, and he and his wife didn’t care enough about their kids to make sure they got it. Not to mention, he broke laws by not having Misty in school. You’ve got to be an EXTREMELY self centered parent to not get your 10 year old kid to school.
I agree cath on everything you said but I don’t hold him responsible for what happened to Haleigh but In hindsight though I will say that he should have never left them with a 17 yr old he just met 6 month’s before!
Even if it wasn’t Misty I’d still say that,I mean there are young babysitter’s but they were living common law and I’m sure he knew she used too so he did make that mistake!
imo
Tuff Stuff:
With Misty sitting in jail, drying out, to hear about Ron’s gf might make her mad enough to give up some information.
There was something, supposedly, from LE awhile back that they had found some new information about something that had happened right before Haleigh went missing. I am really curious about that. I wondered if Ron had made someone mad, or, if it was about Misty’s party week-end. Then this big drug bust went down, and LE seems to be centering in on Misty. I wonder if it is connected.
Hmmm….and you can blame rape victims too if they wore skimpy clothes, yes?? I just don’t see how people can blame anyone but the perp and I certainly won’t do it.
Ron was responsible for his kids’ welfare. He was responsible for seeing to it that they were properly cared for. He failed to do that. I know many 17-year-olds who can properly care for children. I babysat when I was 15 and no harm ever came to any child in my care. Misty was on drugs and Ron knew it. She had just come off a 3-day drug binge and she said she did not want to babysit that night, yet he said she had to anyway. Misty is not innocent here, but neither is Ron, imo.
I can see it now….perp is on trial and his lawyer says to the Judge, “don’t blame my client, blame Ron…he left his daughter with a druggie teenager.” Or “your honour shouldn’t find my client is the only one at fault…your honour should also punish Ron for his choice in babysitter, and Misty because she was so tired she slept through it”. I mean really, to me blaming the victims of crime in these sorts of circumstances is ludicrous and outright cruel, and a Judge would freak out on any lawyer who would suggest that the victims should be held responsible.
I do too Karon.I do too!
Right Me!
I wish LE would have held the conversations back for atleast a month before they had put them out…now that they know that they are getting released to the public they will be cramed with BS…nothing but lies.
I wish LE would have held the conversations back for atleast a month before they had put them out…now that they know that they are getting released to the public they will be cramed with BS…nothing but lies.
cathartic…and what about a couple that has a few drinks on New Years and sends the babysitter home when they get home tipsy…then while they are sleeping it off, someone comes in and steals their child? Parents go out and have drinks with dinner all over the world every night, and we all know that alcohol is a very powerful drug. Is it their fault when someone breaks in and steals their child?
LE held back the part of the tapes they didn’t want out. They want them to think they are all turning on each other. They want each one of them to think they are going to be left holding the bag.
Cath,Tho i think…..someone correct me if i’m wrong..but I think he did ask his mom but she offered to pay Misty to babysit b/c she couldn’t!
I still think Tommy is going to talk if he knows anything at all. He is missing his family, and he seems to be more aware of the fact that he could spend a long time in jail. I don’t think reality has sunk into Misty, yet. Ron seems to know, but he seems to be able to numb out his feelings better than Misty and Tommy.
In regards to Misty and Tommy’s up bringing I am fairly certain that their Parents are looking back at the coulda, woulda, shoulda’s. Who knows with these people though right?
It kinda sounded like Misty’s own Mother Lisa was going right along with Misty’s looking forward to her Parents being able to visit her and as we all know both her Parents are facing possible prison time themselves.
Who’s really going to be able to visit whom?
I wonder Karon why his wife said,I toldya not to go.i know they said it was because he was going with Misty to sell drug’s but i do wonder if it isn’t more!
I can’t get over an unmarked police car in Tommy’s driveway just beforee the 911 call,assuming that’s true ofcourse but now we hear..or i know i heard?? Misty called him to help dispose of the body after she OD’d!
I’m gonna go listen to the videos! bbs
I am not talking about an occasional lapse or a case where there is no history of abuse or neglect, drugs, etc. I am talking about a girl who was messed up on drugs more often than not, a father who knows this to be the case yet ignores it and leaves his kids in her care.
This is like the case I sited in another post a few days ago where the mother left her babies with their alcoholic father while she worked. He was a mean drunk and she knew it because she had been victimized by him many times. She divorced him, but allowed him to babysit.
He killed his kids…7-week-old twins. And yes, he is THE PERP and is being held accountable.
But she isn’t. And that is just plain wrong.
I was first a neglected, then abused child. I was a ward of the state by age 10, taken from my mother’s home and put in foster care. But the foster parents’ abuse was far worse than my mother’s neglect, and no one did a damn thing about it.
In my eyes, the foster parents were the perps, but the state agency that put me in their home bears some responsibility. Not legally, but morally.
I hold Ron morally responsible for what happened to Haleigh.
This is just my opinion, people. I am not trying to make it yours, so no one has to agree.
cathartic,
jmho. Some of us get dealt a crappy path right out the gate. What we become is up to us though. We all have choices to make in this life. You sound to be a wise person who grew beyond what you were dealt and I applaud you.
Cathartic:
I think Ron is morally responsible, because he knew Misty wasn’t in any shape to babysit that night. He wouldn’t have been calling so many times, if he thought things were O.K. at home.
Good night all. I feel like we will have a breakthrough soon. LE is not going to let up, ever. Noone connected with Ron or Misty will have any peace until the truth comes out.
Ron continually called because he got no answer. I would continually call also.
Why did it take Crystal so long to get to the house when she was told HER Daughter was missing.
What other mother besides Casey A do u think wouldnt rush over there. Why, where was she, what was she doing. Did she know the AC guy, did he unlock the back door to gain entrance to get the kids, Did misty start to wake up as JR was being picked up over her, so they quickly left, without JR. hmm wonder why we never hear about how long it took Mom to get there.
Sorry everyone, I didn’t mean to go off like I did. I advocate for kids and, yes, I am very opinionated on the subject of parental neglect, abuse, etc.
I will now go back to being a lurker rather than a poster.
I want to go out saying I can see how much you all care about Haleigh and that it is clear that what we all want is for those responsible to be held accountable. I applaud all of you.
This whole thing is so sad, I agree the victims are being blamed for the crime and for over a year now. NG is getting sickening with her lies. She makes up stuff as she goes along. This should be against the law. They are going to get a girl to get close to Misty and they are going to have that girl get her charges reduced if she tells a story that Misty confided in her that she sold Haleigh or something and she is out of the country. The jury is being so tainted with all these lies and tricks that are being played, all to protect the Le is what I think..
I want the real kidnapper-what ever to be charged and convicted and off the streets. Not put the little 18 yr old in jail for a crime she didnt commit.
yes they didnt have the best judgement in their lives or raising the children. That don’t mean they should be dragged threw the mud.
WhyDidMomTakeSoLongToGetToHaleighsHome said,
in February 11th, 2010 at 12:48 am
I want the real kidnapper-what ever to be charged and convicted and off the streets. Not put the little 18 yr old in jail for a crime she didnt commit.
yes they didnt have the best judgement in their lives or raising the children. That don’t mean they should be dragged threw the mud.
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I too want the real kidnapper caught and punished!!!!
Cait, you did a nice post. I rather you post then loft.
Did anyone hear that Crystals private investagator who was all up on her side to begin with is no longer on Crystals side. The laywer that fought for Crystal to get Jr. has changed her colors also. I heard that Crystals dad was a police officer, maybe even a surgent for many years from the county that is investagating this Case. As far as I heard, he didnt work there anymore when the case started but hadnt been out of there for long.
Hmmmm,is you guy’s screen showing all our comment’s in the same box?I can’t tell where they’re seperated.lol weird!
What the hell happened?
LoL so yours it too Adams?
yep
Mines ok now.lol
lol yes Cathy, I was like what has happened here. I guess the poster copied and pasted more then she or he wanted to.. Didnt notice the name.
Another person I have always wondered about would be cousin and tommy. Tommy and the cousin was both at the house that day. Tommy and cousin both didnt get along with Ron and had robbed from him in the past. Tommy repeatedly called Misty to come to his house to watch his children that night. Misty didnt go there.
I wondered if one of them unlocked the back door to gain entrance once they new Ron would be at work, Misty would have the kids at Tommys and nobody would be in the house. Because Misty didnt go to Tommys maybe they got her high so she would sleep deep and they could go threw the house looking for the gun they had stolen the first time and maybe drugs. While they was there, maybe they got angry because they couldnt find the gun and both being high decided to take the children, How ever at one point misty started to stir, so they only got the one child, How ever Jr got up to see what was going on. Misty kinda woke up looking at the doorway seeing Jr stand there figured thats what woke her up. Jr might of been at the doorway trying to figure out what these two figures that he seen or one figure was doing with his sister, Maybe then Jr said something Misty almost awake from the looking up at Jr. woke up, Once she got up she realized she was thirsty but on the way to the kitchen she was going to stop in the bathroom, as we all wake up and head to the bathroom and many of us then head to get water.
I like the nic..lol I thought OMG another puter virus..lol
I also heard that the cousin was spending the night at the brothers house. And the sister in law said the keys for the van had been moved and then when she went outside she noticed the van was also moved. She also mentioned something about the cousin not being there around midnight for some reason as far as I can recall.
So the van was moved, the keys was moved, the van had a long scratch on it. and the cosin was not in the bed where he should of been at one point. The cousin has a history of using cynderblocks to prop open doors is what I read. He has also attempted sexual advances on his cousin while she was a child. These r things that I read, not sure they r all facts. but very interesting. Sorry for my spelling and gramma.
Does any of this sound possible to any of you?
WhyDidMomTakeSoLongToGetToHaleighsHome said,in February 11th, 2010 at 1:08 am lol yes Cathy, I was like what has happened here. I guess the poster copied and pasted more then she or he wanted to.. Didnt notice the name.
Another person I have always wondered about would be cousin and tommy. Tommy and the cousin was both at the house that day. Tommy and cousin both didnt get along with Ron and had robbed from him in the past. Tommy repeatedly called Misty to come to his house to watch his children that night. Misty didnt go there.
I wondered if one of them unlocked the back door to gain entrance once they new Ron would be at work, Misty would have the kids at Tommys and nobody would be in the house. Because Misty didnt go to Tommys maybe they got her high so she would sleep deep and they could go threw the house looking for the gun they had stolen the first time and maybe drugs. While they was there, maybe they got angry because they couldnt find the gun and both being high decided to take the children, How ever at one point misty started to stir, so they only got the one child, How ever Jr got up to see what was going on. Misty kinda woke up looking at the doorway seeing Jr stand there figured thats what woke her up. Jr might of been at the doorway trying to figure out what these two figures that he seen or one figure was doing with his sister, Maybe then Jr said something Misty almost awake from the looking up at Jr. woke up, Once she got up she realized she was thirsty but on the way to the kitchen she was going to stop in the bathroom, as we all wake up and head to the bathroom and many of us then head to get water.
Possible theory…and her brother was over earlier that day so i wonder if she left to go out maybe she propped the door open so she could get back in……but it was only the screen door opened?? and i have thought her brother maybe gave her something to knock her out so he could come back later having planned it? They spoke of ghb?? LoL Think that’s what it’s called.lol
But you do have some good question’s there? Wish we knew!
WDMTSLTGTHH,
I believe that the above was said. Yes, the cousin was at their house “sleeping”, van was moved and scratched. The family did say something about his M.O. involving cinder-blocks. I just don’t know how much you can/should believe when it comes to them.
That’s the gospel truth Adam’s!
That’s the guy who left and came here to Tennesee too right right when she went missing!?
I heard the first door was held open with clothes from the floor, dirty laundry, the screen door was also open but with a cynderblock.
years ago I was warned to walk with a person, repairman while they are in the room because crocked repairmen will unlock a window or a back door to gain entrance later while u r not home.So without others having keys I would imagine this is how that happened and Ron said he locked the door before he went to work or made sure it was locked, So it would of had to be unlocked by someone who was visiting that house that day. I dont see Misty proping a door open because she must of had a key to get in on a daily basis.
Speaking of your nic.lol I do wonder why it took crystal so long and they said on N/g if i am not mistaken that she had went back to sleep after the call,Don’t know if it’s true but with them the sky’s the limit!
Right and too I wonder if maybe Tommy drugged her that night and took her key and brought it back when he went in to get Haleigh?
People counted Misty as lieing because she said she got up to use the bathroom, and another story was she got up to get a drink. This didnt seem odd to me because my children get up to use the bathroom then get drinks of water. Also without being on drugs my children sleep threw anything. Most of the time I have to actually touch their arms to wake them, yelling out their name dont wake them. So I know some teens sleep very deep, add drugs to that and boom your out..
hmmmm I just thought of something…lol maybe because you can’t unlock a screen door with a key if he maybe propped the screen door open earlier when he was there knowing she coouldn’t see it with the big door shut and he took her key,then brought it back?
Yes Cathy he moved to Tenn. he left florida quick. Recently I heard that Crystals parents left months ago, moved out of Florida.
It is a crying shame that whole crew is so messed up on drugs. Even Crystals mom has a criminal history. And Mistys parent, one word, WOW.
I don’t think Misty know’s what happened..i really don’t,she’s scared todeath and I think she’d have told by now!!She didn’t answer ron’s calls either so maybe he knocked her out!
Lord yea,everybody has a skeleton but these people are truly disfunctional as hello!!
I think Misty’s story variations would have went over better, had she not started getting cocky, married that jerk, and of course… kept her azz at home. Had she been “tardy for the party”, maybe folks would have eased up on her. I don’t know, I’m freaking annoyed right now!!
I would imagine they came in threw the back door. They could of took her keys earlier as u say. I just think they reached over and unlocked the inside back door, without Misty knowing. The cheap screen doors here in florida have very flimsy locks, you can pull on the door, not real hard and it pulls open. Some of the screen doors dont even have locks.
I just can’t see Misty being able to cover for this long. Look at her on the tapes, she new she was being recorded and she admits to selling the drugs eight or nine time. And I know her laywer had to warn her not to talk about that stuff. This girl cant keep her mouth shut, How would she be able to hold in stuff about that night all this time, even to who she thought was a great friend, Mommy Donna.
Understandable Adam’s!!!!!
Adams I understand what you mean. I honestly think Ron married Misty so he wouldnt be arrested for them living together but am not sure. I also think, Ron got close to Misty and was in on the drug bust. I think he was working with the police to get her invovled in drug dealing so they can arrest her and put pressure on her. I would be suprise if all his charges are not dropped, or he gets off because his rights was not read to him or something like that. Did you see him smiling on his mug shot. And he didnt seem as worried as the others.
Sheeeeesho,Now every family member has moved from Satsuma too,everybody is running scared for some reason,Even crystal’s dad was recorded by somebody saying,ky is a no bond state so they can’t touch him there..so why would he say that? This is so confusing!
Oh Cathy I never heard that but it is very interesting. I dont get them leaving their daughter at a time in her life when her baby is missing. She could of kidnapped her own baby girl to not have to pay suport or just because she had plans to move out of state, and she couldnt get her threw the courts. Maybe Crystal knows where her little girl is, That Crystal has to squeeeze a tear or two out. Or has has some red pepper or something on that tissue cause she has to keep dabbing her eyes with the tissue before a tear actuall appears. lol I no some of this sounds out there, they just seem so out there.
Yes,We all wondered why he was smiling……you could be right too,maybe ron did have her set up!possible! hmmm something to think about!
Guy’s I hate to leave good company but gotta get up at 8am,going to dr.with my daughter!
Why Did:
I would think Ron was in on this, except for his mother taking this so hard. I think Ron would tell her and not let her suffer like she is doing. Alot of people have talked about Ron always having a bunch of pills on him. So that makes me wonder.
Thank You all for being so kind to me here, and talking to me like I was a regular. You are a nice group of people. I just might have to come back and talk more next time.. lol,
I need to get up at seven, sleep well everyone. Thanks again for being so nice to a newby..
Cox she might be upset because Jr was taken from her. Did you hear her on the tape say to him, You had to do what ever you had to do to try and get Haleigh home.
Thanks again, Night Night.
Why Did:
You could be right, and the poor woman has had enough to kill her this year. I know she is plenty upset over Jr. I would think the courts wouldn’t be so quick to take Jr. out of the home if LE knew that Ron was helping them. I would think they would have left him with GGSykes, if they knew Ron was coming back home.
Come back and visit with us. Good night.
WhyDidMomTakeSoLongToGetToHaleighsHome said,in February 11th, 2010 at 1:14 am Does any of this sound possible to any of you?
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Yep. I think it likely happened something like that. Though I haven’t eliminated all other possibilities yet, I do think that is a very likely scenario.
good morning everyone,
i just watched the video of the vigil held for haleigh in satsuma. it was wonderful to be able to some of it. i hope haleigh’s family’s found some comfort and hope in it.
i was wondering if there is video on the internet of the wednesday vigil??? i did see a news clip of teresa and marie, but, not any of the vigil itself. if anyone saw a video would you share where to find it please?
http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/crime/2010-02-10/story/vigil_revives_hope_for_finding_haleigh_cummings
Be careful not to jump on the save Misty bandwagon just because you see her disclaimer in the newest video. Judgments made with out true facts are dangerous, and there is no one on this blog that has those facts unless you are working the investigation. You have no earthly idea what Misty has said to the investigators over the past 11 months. In fact, she admitted that she has lied to them when she did a television interview on the Today show. Further, not one of you, even the jelly bean person, know the exact state of intoxication that Misty was under the night Haleigh went missing. You have no clue as to what her telephone conversations were that day; in fact, you know nothing concrete that would allow you to come to the conclusions that you have here in this post. Further, let me state that Misty knows that her communications are being viewed by many. She is very manipulative. In fact, I bet if you watched the initial interview of Misty with LE you would see many of the same type gestures and denials, which through investigations have been proven to be lies. Also, not one of YOU knows what Misty has said to LE since she has been arrested. Maybe she has told them things that truly contradict her statement to her father and mother. Many of these tapes have been edited to remove statements made about the Haleigh case. SO PLEASE, save the LE bashing and the Misty pity party for those who continue to spew inaccurate conclusions and innuendos about the case. For all of you that are educated in the Law Enforcement field and know more that those actually working the case with ALL of the facts take a deep breath. I bet you hear a totally different version of Misty’s story shortly. (Which is on video also)..
Well, according to Lt. Greenwood, as of yesterday the LE who are investigating Haleigh’s disappearance have not even talked with her since she was arrested. See quote from cfnews13.com article below.
“She definitely holds some key information that she hasn’t come forward on,” Lt. Greenwood said. “With the approval of her attorney, we will talk to her if we are afforded the opportunity to.”
http://www.cfnews13.com/Business/LocalBusinessHeadlines/2010/2/10/haleigh_cummings_missing_one_year.html
Misty does not know or she could have made millions by now with an acting career. Ron does not care about anyone but himself. I’m not saying he does know about Haleigh or that he did it, but I would NOT be surprised to find out if he did. He is controlling, he likes messing around with young girls, and he now we all know he’s racist. It’s one thing for a minor like Misty to make stupid mistakes, I know I did at her age. It’s another issue for someone who should be acting like an adult by now who is still acting like a juvenile punk.
We discuss our opinion’s,thought’s and theories…..We have all been blogging here every single day and believe me we know each other enough to know when we are discussing fact’s or just our own opinion’s and we can discuss it amongst one another..Who are you to just climb all over all of us because you apparently have woke up on the wrong side of the bed today.so don’t trash me…..I can’t speak for other’s,only they can but I don’t like like hearing them trashed either!
This is a blog for discussion’s to get to the root of what happened to this little girl!!!!
Ya know Kat,I’m starting to agree with you!
Got up at 6am and my Daughter canceled her appt. so here i am!
Kat,what’s getting to me now is he still….hasn’t asked about either child!!
(to keep from getting trashed because i haven’t heard all the conversations)
this is MY OPINION!
WhyDidMomTakeSoLongToGetToHaleighsHome said,in February 11th, 2010 at 2:13 am Thank You all for being so kind to me here, and talking to me like I was a regular. You are a nice group of people. I just might have to come back and talk more next time.. lol,
I need to get up at seven, sleep well everyone. Thanks again for being so nice to a newby..
Cox she might be upset because Jr was taken from her. Did you hear her on the tape say to him, You had to do what ever you had to do to try and get Haleigh home.
Thanks again, Night Night.
********************************************nO Thank You Why and You are very welcome and we all were newbies at one time…..lol
I didn’t hear that Why!
hmmmm I hope you do comeback.
if ya don’t you won’t seee this either lol but i enjoyed our discussion!
Cox,what am i missing??LoL
I watched the video and I’m sorry guy’s but why do I feel like I’m hearing casey behind bar’s!
These statement’s sound just like Casey’s!
“I don’t care”
Misty: That’s what they think I’m going to break. There’s nothing to break me on, so they need to leave me alone.(Leave her alone)
Misty: I know. I’ve been, I sit and wonder every day, thinking, just trying to go back and think if I missed anything. I do. Every day. And it’s just not, dad, there’s nothing. I’m telling you. It’s hard.
That is blowing my mind!
CathyJo63 @9:27 am –
Now I’m blown away. That’s exactly who I was reminded of by that part of what M said! Yikes!
Come On…. do you know something? You sound close to this investigation…. or are you present or past le from another area? So far your post makes more sense to me than any I’ve read. Like many I have bounced back and forth trying to decide what exactly happened to Haleigh and who I think is guilty. But the fact is…I don’t have enough facts to make an informed decision so I’m going to have to trust that LE does. That still won’t stop me from trying to figure this mess out or from coming up with theories but when it gets down to it, NONE of us have the info LE has so all we can do is formulate opinions and theories and agree to disagree. Fact is, it won’t be us that breaks this case as much as we’d like to. IF the case is broken, it will be LE that does it.
JB – Actually the person to “break the case” will be M or someone else who finally tells whatever it is LE seems to need to know.
And for the record, I’m still not convinced that Misty is “innocent” just because she whines to her parents that she is. That wouldn’t be the first lie she has ever told and I fear it won’t be the last. She knows something that she’s not telling…..just not sure what it is or how important it is.
Both the families at last nights vigil were there to support Ron and Crystal. Ron’s father and Crystal’s father were both there for the vigil. These pictures are heartbreaking.
http://photos.jacksonville.com/mycapture/enlarge.asp?image=27907762&event=941659&CategoryID=9088&picnum=20&move=F#Image
You have to keep clicking on the arrow to see all 12 of the photos.
JB – I’m still open to a lot of possibilities including that M harmed Haleigh. Where I get hung up is what happened after that? Did M handle it alone? Did she have help? If so then why aren’t they talking? If it was T, then maybe he will fess up rather than spend years in jail. IDK. I sure have not made up my mind yet.
As far as questioning LE. That is what the public is supposed to do. If no one ever did, where would society be?
100% blind trust does not guarantee justice. Accountability (for one thing) helps.
M2 Really???? it’s identical!!!!!
I thought omg,I am gonna get a thrashin if i say it outloud…but it’s true M2!
M2C – well, true but then we’re just splitting hairs. Yes, it will be someone talking that breaks the case…but it will be LE’s pressure that causes someone to talk….it’s 6 of one and a half dozen of another. Do I think LE has done a flawless investigation? HECK no! I think they’ve screwed this thing up royally. BUT, I don’t know what evidence they have and what they’re doing behind the scenes so I could be wrong.
Basically we don’t have enough information to really know what is going on. All we can do is swap ideas, theories and information as it comes our way. Even the phone calls are only snippits as any crucial info has been redacted. We really have nothing to go on when it comes down to it. We truly do not know what evidence LE is sitting on, who passed or failed LDT’s, why LE was at Tommy’s house that night, whether Ron’s work alibi held any water, what the phone records of all the players show, whether they’ve checked cell tower pings to confirm people’s locations that night, what evidence they got from the van, etc, etc, etc. We’re basing our theories and making assumptions based on only a fraction of the information LE actually has so our theories will ultimately be flawed at best.
Yes, I’m frustrated that we don’t have all the facts and info and info is slow to flow our way in this case which adds to the frustration. But, we have to have SOME faith that LE knows what they are doing. The FBI has been involved along with other agencies and I have to think that they know what they are doing even if from my point of view they often look like a bunch of clowns or keystone cops!
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not going to stop trying to piece the puzzle together or try to figure things out. I couldn’t stop if I wanted to. BUT, I am going to try to keep my emotions in check, remember there is a LOT of info I don’t have and so my theories are not based on a complete picture of the case. Does that make sense? The things COME ON said just really made me stop and think as is the case with many other comments. It made me stop to look at this case from a different angle and in a way, it gives me more hope that Haleigh will be found.
Well said JB!!
Starting to wonder myself JB….honestly she sound’s like she just could care less?? Did yall get that impression??
Lord m2,we are seeing different personalities in the past few day’s alone….And I have believed in Misty and Ron and i gotta tell ya,I’m terribly disappointed!
LoL If all we had to discuss were fact’s,I’m afraid we would have one huge empty blog!
I foget who asked me for this info the other day but I just came across it and whoever it was might find it.LoL
Page 5 – Ron says he kept the kids because he heard she was using cocaine
Missed hearing – page 21 – Crystal states lived in Glen St Marys for 3 months, therefore when she was served papers October 3rd, and answered them October 18th she would of been living at the same residence at the time of the hearing in December. If she did move between October and December by chance it would of been her responsibility to inform the court – she was full well of the proceedings as she had answered the original petition.
Cocaine use – page 23 – she admits not using cocaine for a year – RJ is 9 months old at time of hearing – therefore she used while preg with RJ.
Criminal records – page 39 Marie brings records up – later Ron brings Maries records up
False police report – cannot link direct but go here http://www.bakercountyfl.org/clerk/
hit search criminal dockets type in sheffield and scroll thru – they are not in order some of her charges are up top some at bottom you will find filing false police report (which was also addressed on NG today.
ETA – also if you scroll to the end of the documents the judge says he will review the violence file and dcf file and if he finds anything in there to change his ruling he will do so.
JB – I understand and agree with you. I was basically responding to Come On’s continued efforts (and he/she has posted exactly the same message many times before) that we should not question LE. We should “Trust” LE.
Whether LE has it right in this situation or not, IMO the public always has an obligation to question LE. If we didn’t we might as well be living in Nazi Germany or Communist Russia.
In addition we all know very well that LE are human, that ,amy other investigations over the years have been very poorly done, etc. So no one is going to stop me from continuing to ask/demand that LE do everything possible to find out what REALLY happened to Haleigh.
I think our continued concern for her – whether it supports or questions LE’s performance – does help encourage that.
YEA M2 and because my husband’s murderer walked out of county jail after only 6 month’s….heck yea i’ll trust LE!!!pffft
I’m withya M2!
So I don’t wanna hear someone pressing that on me.lol sorry but i don’t!
I just ran upon this.thought I’d share!
Looking at Crystal’s myspace, I noticed something disturbing.
Under her General information she states:
“Taking care of my baby girl Chloe and the other brats thats pretty much it!!!! Oh yeah and my grown up baby Chad!!!”
I find that completely offensive, she refers to Chloe as baby girl, but to Haleigh and Junior as BRATS!?
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=395122639
CathyJo – thanks but actually I was just restating COME ON’s post so I cannot take any credit. Not sure why but COME ON’S post really was a slap back to reality for me. We really have very little FACT to go on as LE is holding all the info very close to the vest. We’re forming opinions based solely on snippits of phone calls, videos, police reports, and other items which have generally had all evidence removed prior to release. We’ve all seen how media uses just a piece of video to sensationalize a story. They use a small soundbite that sounds HORRIBLE. For instance….say I’m being recorded and I’m talking to a friend and I say “I came home from work and the dog had peed on the carpet, had knocked over a plant, and turned over the trash…I swear, I’m going to kill him”. That same day my boyfriend is shot and killed by an unknown killer. The media gets ahold of this recorded conversation and all they play for the public is “I’m going to kill him” and everyone ASSUMES I’m talking about my boyfriend. Well, that is exactly what we do when we hear these snippets of conversations and phone calls. We don’t hear everything and the truly important information has probably already been removed by LE so we’re only hearing little snippets and OBVIOUSLY if it is on the news it will be the most sensational portion of the video to make for a good story.
I’m just saying we really don’t have all the facts and while it is theraputic to try and solve this case because it is all we CAN do….we’re operating off of very little info and very little fact.
So, the end result is we read facial expressions, body language, disect words and sentence structure, pull apart alibis and rip apart the key players because that is all we have. IF we had ALL the facts as LE has them, we could form accurate theories and perhaps understand why they do the things we do. If that were the case would we still be irritated with LE? Maybe, who knows? I guess I’m just trying to see things from all angles and somehow thinking that LE knows something, that they are on the right track and are getting closer to finding Haleigh is a WHOLE lot better than thinking they’re bumbling fools who are no closer to solving this than the day Haleigh disappeared. So maybe it is that sliver of hope and the comfort I derive from thinking they are close to breaking the case that I’m clinging to….it’s all I have.
Goodmorning everyone,
I have got to tell you I watched Nancys show last and I am upset!! That timeline they gave was wrong!!!! I called Haleigh school and it runs from 8:45am til 3:00pm. How the heck was she getting off the bus at 2:30 or 3:00pm. She did not get out of school until 3pm. Teresa Neves said out of her own mouth Haleigh got off the bus at 3:30pm. It was reported here and over on Arts site that Rons work hours for that day were 4pm – 12am and he volunteered to work 3 hours over. Now someone please tell me. How was Ron still at home when Haleigh got home, espescially after Ron and his lawyers went on the Nancy Grace show and said he always arrived 30 – 45minutes early for his shift. That is what I heard on Nancy last night .That Ron was still at home when Haleigh got home.
I have contacted both Nancy and Art to let them know about this misinformation.
They all know now they are celebrity criminals. I can see where Rons defense is headed. If two officers approached him to play Mistys heart strings to get info on Haleigh then why did he announce to the world for her to know? He was married to her for five months he did not get any info then. What makes them think he could now? The reporting was not fair and balanced last night. Ron is in the same drug cesspool as T&M and he gets his butt powdered by Nancy.
M2,who called who snothead?? Remember!!
Man the similarities are unreal all of a sudden!
Did iconfuse you too Jb.lol
Was referring to this…mm I think?? LoL
I don’t have enough facts to make an informed decision so I’m going to have to trust that LE does. That still won’t stop me from trying to figure this mess out or from coming up with theories but when it gets down to it, NONE of us have the info LE has so all we can do is formulate opinions and theories and agree to disagree. Fact is, it won’t be us that breaks this case as much as we’d like to. IF the case is broken, it will be LE that does it.
M2C – I don’t mean we stop questioning LE, their motives or their rationale. But, we do have to keep in mind that we don’t know all the behind the scenes stuff that goes on and so we don’t see the whole picture. They could be the bumbling fools we’ve often thought them to be, or they could be on the brink of solving this case…..we really have no idea because we don’t have all the facts. This isn’t like the Casey Anthony case where murder charges went down pretty quickly so ALL the evidence flowed our way pretty quickly. We aren’t seeing ANY evidence in the Haleigh case because no charges have been made. So, we can question, wonder and fuss about LE….just remember, we truly have no idea what they are up to and what info they have.
JB said,
They could be the bumbling fools we’ve often thought them to be,
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That’s what i meant a sec ago,their personalities seem so different now!!
good morning looking for justice,
okay, i am not trying to be a smarta**, but i thought that was always a problem. you know that ron could not have picked haleigh up at 3:30 and been at work at 3:30. the way ron and his lawyer said he always arrives early for work. it is just impossible! i forget travel time from mh to work? i think he would have barely made it ontime at 4?
i wonder if the police would have asked junior if daddy picked up haleigh and brought her home, if junior was awake? maybe that might be to much to ask a child who is a 3 year old at the time.
JB @ 10:19 am – If you’d been blogging with me long enough you’d know I already think that.
I’ve said before that LE are big boys and girls. They chose this path – of playing this close to the vest. They have every right to do so and I am not saying they should not. It may be the very best thing to do. But as a result they have to expect the public to question and doubt. They have to live with that. IMO.
And you’d also know that I have never come to any conclusion about anyone or anything in this case. Since the beginning I’ve tried to stay open-minded and theorize about many possibilities. I am not one who has taken any “side” other than to find out the truth and try NOT to judge beforehand. “Truth” and “proof” is what I’ve been asking for when people DO judge (which I can’t blame them for doing. Each to his/her own).
But I’m also not going to be led by the nose down the garden path to “conclude” that LE has the right person/people in jail (on other charges) so now I’ll give up and allow LE to give up on the investigation. I don’t want anyone to give up until we KNOW what happened to Haleigh.
M2C – I’m not giving up either….I’ll still pick this mess apart and hope you will continue to do so too. Just had a wake up call this morning when I read COME ON’s post I guess. I’m looking for hope anywhere I can find it and right now I’m hoping LE has got SOMETHING they are working on, some shred of evidence that has them going in the RIGHT direction. It is really the only hope I have right now that Haleigh will be found.
I still think Ron has lied about that night. I KNOW Misty has lied about that night. Timmy and Tommy have lied. Lindsey has lied. The whole family has lied about one thing or another. WHY? If they wanted to find Haleigh wouldn’t they all be forthcoming with any info they felt would help? Well, not if they are ALL into criminal activity and have something to hide (whether it has anything to do with Haleigh or not). Maybe they were all engaged in some sort of criminal activity that night (as it seems to be a daily occurance with these people) and so that is why all of them have lied or told half truths. Maybe this was a stranger abduction because Misty was gone that night. Who knows? BUT, if ALL of these players would just tell the truth and let the chips fall where they may, LE would have a fighting chance at solving this case. BUT, because EVERYONE in this case is more concerned with themselves than they are with Haleigh, everyone is keeping their own little secrets. That makes finding Haleigh that much more difficult.
These people make themselves look guilty as sin with all their criminal behaviors. It is no wonder LE is focused on them. What will truly be sad is if this was a stranger abduction and Haleigh was not rescued because LE was too busy trying to make heads or tails our of all these conflicting stories told by the people who were SUPPOSED to put Haleigh first!
Everything about this case is screwed up.
And don’t think that Teresa Neves is ‘Mom of the Year’ – her son and daughter were in the custody of her – Teresa’s – mom since Ron was 3 up until he was 16 when he decided to go live with his mom because his grandfather’s alz and declining health was too much for him to ‘cope’ with.
All these people need to have been nuetered!
ms.P , last night on Nancy Grace they said Haleigh got off the bus at 2:30 or 3:00pm. ( misinformation ) Art said Ron was home when Haleigh came home from school.How? News to me Ron was at home when Haleigh got there. He should not have been unless he was late for work!! Maria reported last night it was Misty who picked up Haleigh from the bus stop. Art said there were two different families that say Misty picked up Haleigh , but Ron and Teresa insist Ron picked up Haleigh that day. Now how does Teresa know this unless she was there to witness that? We never heard of her being there that day.
R was not at work at 3:30. He USUALLY got to work early. But not THAT DAY! His lawyer said that.
I don’t remember what time he said that R got to work that day. If I find the article I’ll post it. But he did NOT get to work as early as usual (or maybe early at all) THAT DAY!
Ms peridot,My brain isn’t nearly as good as your’s……i’ve thought of everything excpt that!
Sara Jane – IN Parent said,in February 11th, 2010 at 10:47 am Everything about this case is screwed up.
And don’t think that Teresa Neves is ‘Mom of the Year’ – her son and daughter were in the custody of her – Teresa’s – mom since Ron was 3 up until he was 16 when he decided to go live with his mom because his grandfather’s alz and declining health was too much for him to ‘cope’ with.
All these people need to have been nuetered!
ROFLMBO!!!! I swear,ain’t it the truth though!
I didn’t know his gramma raised him??
looking for Justice said,in February 11th, 2010 at 10:48 am ms.P , last night on Nancy Grace they said Haleigh got off the bus at 2:30 or 3:00pm. ( misinformation ) Art said Ron was home when Haleigh came home from school.How? News to me Ron was at home when Haleigh got there. He should not have been unless he was late for work!! Maria reported last night it was Misty who picked up Haleigh from the bus stop. Art said there were two different families that say Misty picked up Haleigh , but Ron and Teresa insist Ron picked up Haleigh that day. Now how does Teresa know this unless she was there to witness that? We never heard of her being there that day.
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Wow!!!!!
M2C i never said that Ron got to work at 3:30pm. You may want to reread my post. Now Rons work hours for that day was reported to be 4pm til 12am and volunteered to work over the three hours making it until 3:00am. SO what I am saying is if what was reported last night on Nancy Grace that Ron was still at home when Haleigh got home he would of been late to work. It tkes 40 to 45 minutes to drive to PDM from where he lived. That is what I was saying.
Ron drove her to school that day i’m almost certain b/c a witness said he was driving like a maniac!
Correct me if i am wrong,I’d say yall know better than i do about that one!
Sara Jane – IN Parent said,in February 11th, 2010 at 10:47 am Everything about this case is screwed up.
And don’t think that Teresa Neves is ‘Mom of the Year’ – her son and daughter were in the custody of her – Teresa’s – mom since Ron was 3 up until he was 16 when he decided to go live with his mom because his grandfather’s alz and declining health was too much for him to ‘cope’ with.
All these people need to have been nuetered!
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I can see what ya mean Sara,They’d make darn good arguments for birth control!’
yep you are correct, bus time is 3:30p.m.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0902/17/ng.01.html
this is where teresa said she picked up haleigh that day. i forget when she corrected that. i am trying to find where ronald’s lawyer confirmed ronald arriving at work on time that day. (i am not great at searching!
thank you m2c, i did not know there was an article clearing up the arriving at work time issue.
looking for Justice said,in February 11th, 2010 at 10:57 am
thank you, i could not remember the drive time.
a Gainsville reporter talked at length with the grandparents and greatgrandma of Ron and also gathered some good data on the upbringing of the Croslin Crew. Speaking to relatives in TN and MI. These people (Neves/Sykes/Cummings + Sheffield + Croslins) really are the underbelly – real ”trailer park trash”. Lisa Croslin had/has an an amphetamine – methamphetamine? – problem. Pot and Pills for big daddy Hank Croslin – apparently he has a ‘green thumb’. But, the Croslin’s never had thier children removed from thier custody.
One can not deny that they ‘loved’ thier children – but as I have said before… it takes more than love to parent a child.
Cathy Jo you are right Ron drove Haleigh to school that day. I was addressing what Iheard on Nancy Grace last night after Haleigh got out of school.
you are welcome ms.p.
cathyjo, yes there are stories on art’s site about ron driving like a maniac that a.m.
She is playing to the camera she know Nancy Grace and We are watching. Same old BS out of Misty. She knows something and wants them to find Haleigh so she wont have to tell. jmo
She is still beeching about her bail and wanting out. She is also blaming Haleighs disappearence on why she is in jail.Someone needs to let her know even if they find Haleigh she is still going to jail for trafficking drugs. jmo
if she really wanted to stand up for herself, why has she not retained an atty yet?
She has one his name is Robert Fields.
not an atty of record for her drug case.
here is her case details. no atty on record for her, no motions made on her behalf to have bond reduced. you can do a case search for DB and compare what DB’s atty has done on her behalf:
http://doris.clk.co.st-johns.fl.us/courtcaseweb/CaseDetail.aspx?txt=cummings%2c+misty&ps=50&m=name&s=4&caseid=192668
From what I saw on NG last night, RC and TN, Misty and her parents talking. They all know they are being watched and are using the media to as a way of complaining about everything and no one is going to tell the truth. We are being played. jmo
tobias – oh yeah.
Misty even got her hair done for Miss Nancy.lol
She is trying to prove her innocence to the media.jmo
hello everyone, i found this on bnn, did not want to leave what i posted above hanging.
curious said,in August 29th, 2009 at 10:41 pm Teresa never said she picked HaLeigh up. That was a typo in the Nancy Grace transcript. She said Ron picked her up. Watch the show, you’ll see. Also read the police report, she was not there when police arrived.
Oh,Ok Justice,Thank You! for once i remembered something! LoL
Tobias perhaps they are all now trying to sway the jury pool in their favor.
Thank You Ms.peidot,I thought i read it!lol
Guy’s,do any of ya have salt,pepper and a napkin,I’m getting ready to eat some crow……in 2 day’s time here i am stunned about Haleigh’s family!
ms.p you are right Teresa never said she picked up Haleigh from the bus stop and you are right Teresa was not there at Rons home when officers arrived the night of Haleighs disappearance. I was merely stating How would Teresa know Ron definitely picked up Haleigh that day unless she was personally there with Ron to witness it. On Nancy last night it was said That Teresa and Ron insist he picked up Haleigh not Misty. The witnesses say Misty. all of the witnesess are consistent it was Misty who picked up Haleigh; not Ron.
That racist bs,nobody ask’s or i assume they don’t about Jr or Haleigh unless they’ve cut it out of the tapes and I swear today’s video of Misty takes me right back to casey anthony,she soind’s just like her amd with all that me me me me!
tobias said,in February 11th, 2010 at 11:34 am Misty even got her hair done for Miss Nancy.lol
She is trying to prove her innocence to the media.jmo
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Then she’s going about it the wrong way,i see her in a whole different light today!
You know they know they are being recorded and that makes it worse b/c if they didn’t know it they wouldn’t ask those kind’s of thing’s or bring up certain thing’s so it’s like acting to them! If you follow me…I can’t follow me half the time but seriously you know they know’ and that’s why they bring those subject’s up
LoL iT’S ALMOST LIKE THEY’RE THINKING THEY CAN CONVINCE LE AND THEY’LL JUST OPEN THE GATE AND SET EM FREE!!
Omg,cap’s..sorry!!
looking for justice: I was not responding only to your post. I was responding to two posts that stated (1) “Ron and his lawyers went on the Nancy Grace show and said he always arrived 30 – 45minutes early for his shift”
and (2) “that ron could not have picked haleigh up at 3:30 and been at work at 3:30. the way ron and his lawyer said he always arrives early for work.”
The “always arrives early for work” part did not apply to that day. That’s what I said because that is what Terry S, R’s lawyer said although I do not remember the time Shoemaker said R got to work that day.
I think after Misty goes to court next week we will see a different way to her thinking. Her lawyer needs to really make it clear to her that she is not getting out and will definetly be in jail for quite some time. jmo
Thanks m2c for your response. I have sent out a few e-mails to get actual verification of Rons work hours reported for the day Haleigh went missing. It will save me time from searching every article for that info. I do remember reading 4pm til 12am and agreed to work over three hours putting him to get off at 3:00am will let you know when I recieve the info on that.
looking for justice, i know art has witnesses that misty picked haleigh up. i thought teresa was just trying to back up ronald – p.r. there is know way teresa would know for sure. and i believe ron’s attorney’s stated ron was on time for work, sooo. gotta run, everyone have a wonderful day!
You are welcome, looking for justice.
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Someone must be representing M now. The following is a quote from LE yesterday.Unfortunately it seems to mean that no one investigating Haleigh’s disappearance has talked to M since her arrest:
“She definitely holds some key information that she hasn’t come forward on,” Lt. Greenwood said. “With the approval of her attorney, we will talk to her if we are afforded the opportunity to.”
http://www.cfnews13.com/Business/LocalBusinessHeadlines/2010/2/10/haleigh_cummings_missing_one_year.html
Shocking as it may be to some, one of the things I trust that LE got right is who picked up Haleigh from the bus and what time R got to work that day (no matter what R or anyone else has said). That may mean that WE still aren’t sure about it but I trust that LE is.
tobias, I really think they are all playing for the camera now… They know they will be on Ms. Nancy’s show, they have all gotten mail by now too stating what has been said about them on TV.. Ronald and TN sure played up to everything said in the media lately.. No more tough guy, he finally asked about Jr and cried about Haleigh, even asked if Misty has talked yet.. All of the things people criticized him for not doing, he made it up all in one phone call with Momma…
Misty better wise up cause this whole thing is going to get blamed on her from what I am seeing out of the Cummings Clan. Why the turn around, you have to wonder, up until Ronnie got arrested they all said poor Misty didnt have anything to do with it. All of a sudden they are pointing fingers her way. Yes protect Ron as usual. jmo
oops i am sorry everyone i am behind you all! ta ta
looking for justice: I believe it was on this past Sunday’s radio program that TJ said he has asked PDM officially for R’s work hours and they have not responded. I’m not surprised because a company like that is probably going to give LE info and then try to stay out of it (so as not to muddy the waters or participate in a media frenzy etc). So if you hear anything it might be from “co-workers” but I would still have to take that with a grain of salt.
Because another thing (sit down everyone, please) that I trust LE got right is when R was at work and whether he had the opportunity and time to leave and return. Again, LE must know that even if we don’t. IMO
By “sit down” I only meant in case you faint because I’m going with LE on these things even though I gripe about them so much. Some things I trust they got right and some I just don’t feel so sure about.
yall got a link for that call??
I couldnt play the Ron audio either. Simon can you fix them so the ones with just media players can hear them? thanx.
I have tried too but the link didn’t work!
Maybe someone will post them on You tube I will go check.brb
I agree with you buddy and Tobias on your 12:13pm post. m2c I understand what you are saying. Rons time was already publicly released in late spring or early summer. If I do not get the reponse, then I will take the extra time to go and search out all of the articles between that time.
I love how “mama” tells ron what a good son he is…HUH? That he had to do the things he did…HUH? Soooooo…he had to shack up with an underaged girl, sell dope, get in fights, decapitate rats, get involved with Misty AGAIN after divorcing her, threaten people, get arrested constantly….yup, I know I sure would be proud too….NOT!
Ty Tobias!
OMG are you serious JB??
Has NG lost her mind? Last night she kept saying, “secretly taped.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDUJymZn6cc
This was very interesting go see it.
OMG,I have got to see that!
Why the hell would you have to sell drugs to find your child…sheesh…..another similarity to casey…when she said she stole from friend’s to find Caylee! Grrr
Ya know i use to like her.but N/G is to big for her ownself.comapres every parent to her parenting,I’m glad she’s a good parent iffin she is but don’t smear it everywhere like you are the only woman who has given birth!
Yes how would Misty know how broken up he is over losing Junior? wE HAVENT EVEN HEARD ANYTHING OUT OF HIS MOUTH ABOUT jUNIOR. Just about his underwear and showers. omg jmo
Poor little Haleigh,man these ppl are changing my mind fast!
“The way I see it, there is a long line of female victims leading straight to Ronald Cummings.” “…we are being played…” Very well said!
Also, let’s not forget that Teresa Neves did not have custody of Ron or his sister, from the time Ron was 3 he lived with Neves’ mother. Parenting was never a priority with these people.
Ron is a pathetic loser who uses pubescent child-women for his own needs – ‘insert here – clean this – watch that…’. And as for his claim that he ‘can’t work – too much media hounding him’ *BS* – just like George Anthony – *BS*
Ron is using the media to his advantage – as recently revealed in a video conversation – to promote himself as ‘undercover’ with LE’s blessings. If so, would not LE have redacted that part of the conversation with his mom?!
And his mom is ”proud” of him?! Ron thinks he is outsmarting LE and the public who read/view issues/statements/video related to his daughter’s case.
I even wonder if Misty knows anything more… Bottom line, a year later and where is Haleigh?
Secretly taped? dear lord!Why do these reporters do that!
Does he really expect us all to believe he was undercover selling drugs to find Haleigh really? Ron is now a POS to me, I always thought he was not involved but now I am sure he could very well be indirectly involved and he knows whar happened even if it was after the fact. jmo
I know Sarah,pretty sad ain’t it?
Yes, NG thinks she has the market cornered on all news….. hate to tell her but her bombshells are duds, her breaking news is yesterday’s news and the whole “secretly taped” thing is laughable. THEY KNOW THEY ARE BEING RECORDED, THEY KNOW THE VIDEOS ARE BEING PLAYED ON NG’S SHOW, THAT MAKES IT A WEE BIT DIFFICULT TO STILL BE A SECRET, DON’T YOU THINK? WAKE UP NG!
Starting to worry me too Tobias,just the other day I swore niether of them were in on it……now i feel who know’s?
Hey, Casey slithered on a stripper pole to find Caylee….is it such a stretch that Ron would sell drugs and hang out in a strip joint to find Haleigh? LMAO These people are SO pathetic!
I believe Ron peed off the wrong person and Haleigh was taken as pay back. Look at the road rage incident with CJones, he sure did pee him off. And that guy is just some teen ager, what if its true that Ron put his gun in a drug dealers face like WBG says in his last interview with Cobra? Its on you tube if you want to watch it. WBG has a yellow shirt on in it. jmo
You know, with all the resources available to NG ONE would think she could come up with some better info and material. She is always a day late and a dollar short on her “breaking news”. She plays the same old tired video over and over and over again until our eyes bleed. She repeats the same news over and over again and her “guests” add NOTHING to the story! Half of them don’t act like they are even familiar with the facts of the case….they just ramble and try to avoid NG’s nasty wrath! How did her show get so popular? It’s like receiving a daily newspaper that is three weeks old, been peed on by the neighbor’s dog, has holes in it and is delivered by an obnoxiously rude and crabby paperboy!
JB,
Glad your mind is not totally biased by in accurate information. I can’t tell you about myself unfortunately, but what I can say is that it is always easy to put blame on LE because they are a Governmental Agency. I have never stated that LE should not be held accountable for doing their job, but their job is not always what you see on CSI the tv series. I can tell you that they are not idiots, like many have claimed on this blog. They are professionals, who work every day to solve crimes, especially the Haleigh crime. I never implied that the people should not theorize or give opinions about this case. Hell, we are missing a little girl and anyone with ideas should put them out. In fact, I think that I have even suggested to a few of the bloggers that they should contact the task force and give them their ideas. The fact is that all good investigators look at everyone’s’ ideas and don’t get tunnel visions. Hell if LE had tunnel vision they would have brought a charge against a few people in this case. I know this for a fact….Good investigators work first to prove someone’s innocence. When all leads and information continue to lead back to a specific path, they must eventually pursue that path, and they will find the pot of gold. If Misty initially would have started out with credibility when the initial investigation started, I’m sure things would be going in a different direction. With each lie she has told, her credibility crumbles, it is like a tree. She stands tall, but the lie (ax) chops little pieces of the tree away. Ultimately the tree will fall. Misty has lied about everything, LITTLE and BIG, WHY? If you were the investigator, would you find this hard to leave alone? This investigation is all over the place, because they don’t have tunnel vision. They follow each path presented. Unfortunately these paths seem to have lead to dead ends. I guarantee ultimately that mistakes will have been made, because the investigators are all human, and the case is very complex. Many things happen quickly, with little time to always know if it was the best course of action. Cramp that’s why 20-20 vision is always better after the fact. One fact I know for sure is that they followed the CART protocol to the letter. All cases are not easily solved, some times it takes time. Jacksonville, Fl had two boys go missing 5 years ago yesterday. They still are missing. For the record, Casey Anthony continues to lie to investigators, they just have physical evidence. In fact, when she was presented with some real strong physical evidence, she continues to lie. Criminals lie. Are those cops’ idiots too? Is the Jacksonville Sheriff’s Office idiots too and incapable of solving crimes? Didn’t they make mistakes with the investigative process? Believe me, if these investigators are that bad, some bigger agency would have recognized it and you would all know about it. The FBI, FDLE, Sheriff’s Office et all believe the same thing happened.
I agree that we keep on LE, to not give up, which they haven’t. Many, many hours of investigations. I know that they truly look at what everyone writes and listen to ideas that are presented.
I recommend everyone gives opinions, and theories, about the case, but continually attacking their professionalism and their dedication to finding Haleigh is some what discouraging. Please theorize away, but remember that LE wants her found as bad as you do..For the record, there is no conspiracy within the LE community relating to this case, it is merely a difficult case to prove.
Thanks for your post.
The caller on (a) radio show was speaking of a transcript of the police dispatch calls that is off the internet and used to be on the internet. This is not a 911 call. It is a dispatch report.
>>>>>>>>>>>>The officer on his way to Green Lane puts in the call, another officer says I am right here at 116 Tyler (home of Tommy and Lindsey), the officer says what are you doing there? It is redacted. An officer was already at 116 Tyler when the 911 call came in from Misty and Ron.
And on the same transcript (which I can no longer find) it also says Haleigh last seen an hour and a half ago inside her home.
Remember the radio transmission:
OP: 1271. 265. Signal 8.
MLE1: 1271.
OP: 202 Green Lane. 2 zero 2 Green Lane. The complainant’s advising she cannot find her 5 year old daughter. The backdoor is open at this time.
MLE1: 10:4. _______51_____code _____17.
OP: It’s 51 code. Sierra 1120.
MLE1: 10:26. Go ahead and advise 1118, I believe she is in the squad room.
OP: 1118.
FLE1: I’m 10:26. I’ll be 10:8 in just a couple. 10:51.
OP: 10:4. 1256.
FLE1: You got a cross street?
OP: Buffalo Bluff Road to Tyler Street, left on Monroe Avenue. It’s going to be in Satsuma.
MLES: Sierra 1120.
OP: 1120.
MLES: I got the age on this kid. Is it a boy or girl?
OP: Whiskey Foxtrot. Last seen wearing her PJ’s.
MLE: 10:4.
FLE2: Advice 1256.
OP: 1256.
FLE2: There is a railroad that runs right through there. Can we find out from CSA(?) when next train come through?
OP: 10:4. It just passed through.
MLES: (short static)
OP: Sierra 1120.
MLES: Sierra 1120.
OP: Can you 10:21?
MLES: 10:4.
FLE1: Lima 1118. 10:8. 10:51. Back.
OP: 10:4.
MLES: Sierra 1120.
OP: Arvan(?) 20.
MLE1: I’m back en route now to that signal 8. Where is that located at in Satsuma?
OP: 202 Green Lane. From Buffalo Bluff Road to Tyler Street, left on Monroe.
MLE1: 10:4. I’m not but a couple blocks. 10:4.
MLE1: 471 located 10:97.
OP: 10:4. 1297.
OP: 1271 or 1256 to 13.
MLE1: 77.
OP: cool. (?)
[B]OP: Sierra 1120.
MLES: Sierra 1120.
OP: When you get to 97, can you give us an update?
MLES: They’re 77, they just haven’t located yet, but they’re 77.
OP: 10:4.
OP: Call back 1256. 1256. ____telephone____ordinary. Want me to call it in for you? 10:4.
FLE2: 1256.
FLE2: I’m available at 116 Tyler.
OP: 116 Tyler? (static) 26.
MLE1: What’s going on at 116?
FLE2: 1256.
OP: Go head.
FLE2: 10:08 from this location, going 97, back to Green.
OP: 10:4. Verifying the last time she was seen ____address.
FLE2: She was seen within her residence, about 1 to 1 1/2 hours ago..
OP: 10:4.MLES: Sierra 1120 to Lima 1118.
OP: Lima 1118. Sierra 1120. She advises 10:84. 1118 was not working earlier.
MLES: Why not? (or what?)
FLE1: Lima 1118.
OP: 1118.
FLE2: Reference call at 19 and 20. We believe it’s gonna all be in the city. If not, let us know. So far.
OP: So far.
FLE2: She’ll 10:8 to 51 to the south end. Also, I’ve talked to a (or the) City Supervisor, they’ve got a K-9 10:8 that’s gonna be en route.
OP: 10:4.
FLE2: When you get a good 10:8 from this location, if ya’ll just give him driving directions to where he needs to go.
OP: 10:4.
(static)
OP: 10:4. Go ahead.
FLE2: It’s off of Tyler. Take left. It’s a little dirt trail which comes around to Green Lane. Come in at back.
OP: 10:4. Tyler, take left, dirt trail, advise take right.
FLE2: 10:4. ______the first dirt road.
OP: 1256. 10:80 to LA Tuck (?).
MLES: Sierra 1120 to 1271.
MLES: 1120 to 1271.
MLE3: 1271. Go ahead sir.
MLES: Stay at the residence, maintain that point of access, reference for (or to) K-9’s and do another thorough search from inside the house. (this is 6 minutes into the calls)
MLE3: That’s 10:4.
MLES: 1120 to 1256.
FLE2: Yes, Sgt.
MLES: Are you back at the uh, house?
FLE2: 10:4.
MLES: Is that 10:4 or 10:54?
FLE2: 10:4. I’m back on Green Lane.
MLES: 10:4. Go ahead and gather as much information as you can get about any family or anything around here and uh, go ahead and call in and get her reported a signal 8.
OP: 10:4. It’s already done, Sir..
FLE1: Lima 1118.
OP: 1118.
FLE1: Make contact with Sgt. Riles (sp?) and when he calls in, patch him through to my cell please.
OP: 10:4.
OP: 1118. I’m patching him through at this time.
FLE1: Thank you.
FLE1: 1118. 10:97.
OP: 10:4. 10:97. Sierra 1120 are you 10 on me, 7?
MLES: 1120. 10:97 area, hold on.
OP: 10:4.
OP: 1 kilo 22.
MLES: 1120 to 1390, 19.
MLE4: 1319. Yes, Sgt.
MLES: Come on down to Buffalo Bluff Road and 17. Just start taking tags or stopping vehicles that are leaving from this area.
MLE4: 10:29.
MLE4: 1319. Send me en route from San Mateo.[/B]OP: 10:4.
MLE4: Caller 1319.
OP: 10:4. Caller 10:9 your location.
MLE4: We’re going to be on Buffalo Bluff, just off 17.
OP: 10:26. Thank you.
FLE1: Lima 1118.
OP: 1118.
FLE2: Can we check with St.John Valusia(sp?), see if they can put a chopper in the air for us.
OP: 10:4.
FLE@: Also, if you’d contact Tenner at home and tell him I need him to get a boat preparted that would go into canal areas, one of the small ones, and get activated and head down this way.
OP: 10:4
FLE!: Lima 1118.
MLES: 1120 SO.
OP: Lima 1118.
FLE1: Believe Valusia (SP?) has a flare unit, I’m, I’m not sure, if they don’t have one, you may want to check with Valusia first.
FLE3: Lima 1118. As for reference Valusia having a flare, I’ll make the 25 on that. I’m trying to get Deputy Tenner on the phone.
FLE1: Okay. Thanks. 10:4.
MLES: Sierra 1120 SO.
OP: 1120.
MLES: When ya’ll make contact with uh, Deputy Tenner, advise him that it’s going to be east of the Hermit Cover Marine, in these canals, back on south/southwest of the railroad track.
OP: 10:20, Sir.
MLE5: 12, 1231.
OP: J91325, 1325, received at 3:27.
MLE: static
OP: 1231. Also, 1231 do you have a picture in reference to the Signal 8, so we can enter that.
MLE5: 10:4.
MLES: Sierra 1120.
OP: 1120.
MLES: If you would, pull us the roster for day shift, ‘cause they were working today, go ahead and make contact with the Zone 2, Zone 1, Zone 7 Officers, tell them to take a 10:08.
OP: 10:4.
MLES: _____1173.
MLE: 1173. 10:08, 10:51 at Green Street.
OP: 10:4 to 51.
MLE: static
OP: 1271.
MLE1: 1256. 10:51. In control officially. (garbled, may be incorrect)
OP: 10:26.
I found this because we heard an unmarked car was at Tommy’s just before the 911 call was made!
JB, lol Take it easy on paper delivery, some of us have to do a job thay normally would not do to survive the economic downfall. lol Yes that is my fate for now and I do it with a smile and do an excellent job for many elderly people who cant get out to buy one.
I do see your point about NG she wont let anyone with opposing views say anything she cuts them off rather rudely. She is still on the Ron band wagon too but if she werent she would have egg on her face. jmo
COME ON – another good post and words we should all certainly ponder.
All – I don’t want anyone to give up on trying to crack this case. Again, it is a way for us to vent our frustrations by discussing this case RESPECTFULLY with one another.
I don’t think there is anything wrong with questionning LE or their actions either….just remember we don’t have all the facts and may not see what they are truly up to.
I really do appreciate everyone here and their thoughts, theories and ideas. I get more information here on this case than I get ANYWHERE! You guys are the BEST!
Did you notice she played the audio of RC and TN but never commented on it? She just stayed on Misty. jmo
This whole thing has got me so confused. Tapes coming in so fast I can’t keep up. I think it’s best if I just step back and let it roll along till something makes sense. Thanks Jan, Simon. Tj and all you bloggers that take so much of your valuable time to try and sort this mess out…if it weren’t for you……………well lets just say NG wouldn’t have anything to report…two or three days late LOL
Tobias – LOL – nothing personal…..and by NO means comparing you and your delivery of the news to NG’s delivery of OLD, TIRED, REPETATIVE, CRABBY news! LMAO
Come On said,in February 11th, 2010 at 12:48 pm
Come On – Very Good Post! You are totally correct. LE are not idiots… for the most part… hehe. No really, I think that LE is trying real hard to put an end to the BS surrounding Haliegh’s kidnapping/murder.
Yes,I did Tobias.she alway’s does!
”…She (Misty) begs to get out on bond when her family cannot afford the gas to the jail. I hate to think that when they sign in at the jail there is a big X where the name should be…”
Remember when Hank Croslin said that “Misty can not read”. MISTY CAN’T READ! That was a factor in her dropping out of school at 6th grade. Hank also said that his side of the family suffers from ‘learn’n disorders’ He admitted that he has a hard time with reading and writing.
Why didn’t anyone get Misty help with her schooling?
bbs,gotta make a few call’s!
Probably because they never let their schooling get in the way of their education.lol
JB, Thanks, and be nice to your paper delivery,
we do try to provide a service for a dying information source and most of us would rather be doing what we were before all the lay offs.
I for one am just glad to have a job.
I feel that LE is on the right path and it is just a matter of time until all is revealed.
The ones in jail will be there for quite some time and have lots of time to rethink their situations. We just get frustrated because we all want to know where Haleigh is dead or alive. And we are mad as heck that we may not know for years. jmo
I think Misty is trying to act tough but its all bluff she will talk when she realizes how long 20 yrs. is. Unless she knows that saying something is only gonna add on more years. jmo
Even her Mom realizes this when she says You will be old and gray like me. The Croslins as dumb as they are still want to help find Haleigh and hope this gets Misty out sooner than the 20 she is facing. jmo
I think Misty got the tatoo to show devotion to Ron. Ron let her know DB was undercover mama too. They have been in cover up mode from the very beginning, and I think Misty is gonna break soon , she just seems too sure of herself right now. Her parents need to get through to her that Ron used her. She reads the paper and will see all he is saying now, will it work? jmo
And yes she can read and says so in the video with her mom.She just cant read at a high level. jmo
She also needs to quit worring about bond and worry about her next court date. Someone needs to explain that even if you bond out you are still going to jail for 20 years or more. jmo
anybody have the link for ron’s last tape…recording,video?? lol
It is very easy to assume that this is Misty. They are releasing to us what they want us to see. Nobody is telling us about Crystals drug issues. They want everything to point to Misty.
I would like to ask you to imagine, your daughter was babysitting Haleigh, Imagine your daughter was Misty. Than I want you to imagine that you and Misty both know that you know nothing else. What would u do after a year of saying that. How would u act. How would your daughter act. Ok I would imagine the nasty curse words wouldnt be there. But what would u be saying, I dont no anything, I told you everything I know, I cant tell you more. I keep going over that night in my mind hoping there was something I can think of to tell you but I cant think of anything I have not told you in this past year. Yes, You would still be concerned about Haleigh, but you would also be concerned about yourself or your daughter. You would tell her to tell the truth and once you know she did, You would stick by her.
Bingo!!!!! You hit the nail on the head!! And she just failed a drug test after she regained cutody of Jr. and let alone after a child is missing too….sheesh I think that would sober me right up!
I know what you mean but something went thru me when she said,I don’t care anymore!
I have been on R and M’s side until the racial comment from him came out and then remember casey’s case…….Misty sounds just like her on that last video..same excuses and all….and I have come to the point now of keeping one eye open constantly and I don’t care who goes down in the end as long as it’s “The right person” Ya know! It almost seem’s M has given up when she said…….
“Misty: That’s what they think I’m going to break. There’s nothing to break me on, so they need to leave me alone.
She was the last person responsible for Haleigh because Ron was at work but i sorta blame alot on Ron now as to how young Misty is and he brought her (a child then basically) into his
home to raise his 2 kid’s and Haleigh had a disability and he knew Misty had just ran off with that guy,the night Haleigh went missing is the 1st time she’d came back from a weekend binge and my God,if he was selling drug’s why not use some of that money for a sitter,ya know? I mean it’s not like they were broke and Misty didn’t even want to watch her that night so now this is all happening and Gosh what a mess!
Exactly…….I would tell her too, I’ll support you and help you anyway I can but I won’t lie for you.just face it head on and go from there,but you need to be honest!Because even if worse comes to worse I know that Misty nor Ron never meant to harm her,I just know whatever happened,they don’t know but if they should later get caught up in it then I will still feel empathy…she’s a kid herself raised by thug’s,badguy’s,addict’s.you name it!
But they can’t leave her alone like she want’s because the fact is she was the last person responsible for Haleigh! and her parent’s need to talk to her about that too!!Make her understand somehow! ya know!
Cathy I mean if she really didnt do it, or really dont no anything, after a year of being accused what would or could her mother or her say or do, except say I cant take it anymore,
I dont no anymore then they told me.
It took 18 and a half years for my x boyfriend to be exonerated, how ever u spell it, and his two friends, for the rape and murder of a 16 yr old, We all new he didnt do it, we all new the van they was telling the world that he did it in was up on blocks for months, not working. They told the world six weeks after the girl went missing her body was found, all the sudden they find her hair in his van, 18 yrs later, dna dont match any of the guys, and the hair had a hair death band that was consistant of a hair that was in a dead body for 6 weeks,mean while they had the van, which means it was planted in the van, the hair was not stepped on and warn out like every other hair found in his van,, But the world was told so many lies, and we as his friends was told, keep up the investagating and we will say that you was with the three guys and you r a lezbian and was invovled in the murder, isnt that lovely,, All three of the guys charged a jail house snitch come to the court and testified that the person confessed to them that they killed her,
18 and a half years, then they was released and told sorry…… your right the dna dont match any of u,, this girls family thought it was them,, another girl was raped and murdered, while they was under constant servalance, so they police new it was not them, yet, they pointed at them and had to save face, and charge them and prove it was them,, and they proved it, all three spent that many years in jail while a rapist and murderer walked the streets, a 3 girl ended up missing 2 found dead and one never found all in the same neighbor hood, just saying, I seen they way some of this works,,
Right…I am just so confused,even just yesterday you couldn’t convince me other than to fight like hell for M and R..honest….and so many things are confusing,
posted and I wasn’t finished/me is confused now
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I don’t know for certain but i think LE is holding back alot and have you ever heard of the cop’s finding an abandoned car in the woods after Haleigh went missing?
But I will say this……cs has no business with kid’s either!Hell….M AND R are in jail for drug’s basically they are,no charges other than those and here cs fail’s a drug test but she’s fit??
WhyDIditTakeSoLongForBioMomToShowUp said,in February 11th, 2010 at 6:41 pm Cathy I mean if she really didnt do it, or really dont no anything, after a year of being accused what would or could her mother or her say or do, except say I cant take it anymore,
I dont no anymore then they told me.
It took 18 and a half years for my x boyfriend to be exonerated, how ever u spell it, and his two friends, for the rape and murder of a 16 yr old, We all new he didnt do it, we all new the van they was telling the world that he did it in was up on blocks for months, not working. They told the world six weeks after the girl went missing her body was found, all the sudden they find her hair in his van, 18 yrs later, dna dont match any of the guys, and the hair had a hair death band that was consistant of a hair that was in a dead body for 6 weeks,mean while they had the van, which means it was planted in the van, the hair was not stepped on and warn out like every other hair found in his van,, But the world was told so many lies, and we as his friends was told, keep up the investagating and we will say that you was with the three guys and you r a lezbian and was invovled in the murder, isnt that lovely,, All three of the guys charged a jail house snitch come to the court and testified that the person confessed to them that they killed her,
18 and a half years, then they was released and told sorry…… your right the dna dont match any of u,, this girls family thought it was them,, another girl was raped and murdered, while they was under constant servalance, so they police new it was not them, yet, they pointed at them and had to save face, and charge them and prove it was them,, and they proved it, all three spent that many years in jail while a rapist and murderer walked the streets, a 3 girl ended up missing 2 found dead and one never found all in the same neighbor hood, just saying, I seen they way some of this works,,
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Oh believe me hun I know! Me,Ann and Treece and other’s have been here everyday mad as heck over what is being done to them! I do though and probably alway’s will feel they were framed for drug’s,,it hust don’t sit right,the le and everybody found a weakness and praeyed on them to make a mistake…..IMO!
AND TOO THO THE PUBLIC MAY HAVE FORCED LE TO FIND A WAY,YA KNOW?
GRRRRRR,i need some duCK tape to tape these caps down! I always forget and when i look up too late!
OMG…..That is awful….think about how many ppl who say they’re not guilty but how can they fught it??
I saw a man on the news here about 2 months ago that had been exonerated and he got home after i think,don’t quote me but 35 yrs??? and he did what he wanted to do for x-mas and that was hug his mom……that is so sad and think of all the changes in our world where he was locked up since age 17 i believe it was…….new surrounding’s,cellphones,microwaves.i mean that would be so hard! and all they say is sorry and don’t even care to add the word’s we took your life too!!!!!
Lord,My husband’s murderer walked out of the county jail in 6 months!! Cold blooded murder in 2003…..I was broke..his family own’s most of Tn! Justice is money! I am proof of it!!
WhyDIditTakeSoLongForBioMomToShowUpYou know what the sad thing is…..let’s say we are right,they’re innocent in jail for drug’s while a Predator,family member,somebody who may have done Haleigh alot of harm we don’t know about yet,but if it’s 5 yrs from now when they catch the person,I guarantee you they’ll be in and out of jail LONG BEFORE M and R will!!!
That’s the problem,if they’d get them off the street’s kid’s waould be safer,heck everybody would but give you life for using drug’s even if you didn’t sell them!
I found it!!
Heck her brother could have done that!Not that he did but i don’t think Misty could think of all that stuff on the spur of a second ya know..
Car Taken Into Custody In Haleigh Case
Thursday, February 19, 2009
PUTNAM COUNTY, Fla. — The search for Haleigh Cummings in its tenth day.
A car was taken into custody by LE, but they are not revealing where or when it was taken.
“There was a tip earlier on which we had processed for evidence. But we do not want to get into any of the details on that, but it was processed by FDLE,” said Dominick Pape of the FDLE. “At this point in time, we don’t want to give out any more information in reference to that vehicle.”
The sheriff’s office continues to question Misty Croslin. There were questions about whether or not she was home when Haleigh was abducted early last week.
GeeWhiz,this is Ron’s sister’s criminal history…wheww
Visit clerks of court for each county for detailed information
Sumter County
11/5/08 Child restraint violation
9/4/08 No registration, fail to stop on red,
8/19/08 No safety belt passenger under 18
5/30/08 Child restraint violation
5/7/08 Driver’s license not carried
11/29/07 No seat belt, ran stop sign
8/20/07 Child restraint violation
1/10/07 Careless driving
5/19/05 Drivers License not carried, no seatbelt
5/26/05 Permit use w/ defective equipment
11/30/03 no seatbelt
2/26/03 Child restraint violation
9/10/02 Child restraint violation
8/30/02 Unlawful speed
4/3/01 No seatbelt
10/20/00- failure to change name on license
2/1/02 Domestic relations- paternity
11/16/00 Civil County for eviction
9/14/05 Resisting officer without violence, possession of cocaine, driving w/ license suspended, possession of marijuana, possession of paraphernalia
3/12/03 Driving w/ suspended license
4/10/01 Resisting officer without violence
3/13/01- Aiding prisoner to escape
2/28/01- Possession marijuana
8/31/00- Driving with suspended license
12/23/02- County civil for eviction
And from Lake County
7/28/03 Petit Theft
6/3/03 Possession marijuana
12/3/99 Grand theft between 300-20K 2 counts, 1 count petit theftthere were also numerous driving violations from this county too!
UCN: 541999MM001188XXAXMX
File Date: 1999-04-01 Judge: PETER T MILLER
Defense Atty:
Defendant
NEVES, TERESA S
Alias
Date # Docket Description
1999-04-01 1 COMPLAINT: KATRINA SYKES HARASSING PHONE CALLS
1999-05-11 2 ANNOUNCEMENT OF NO INFORMATION
Ron’s sister Crystal!!
On charges of 12/3/03- here is the court disposition.
She was fined and given probation & CS then violated probation
12/01/2003 SURETY BOND Bond Set 17000.00
12/03/2003 CASE FILED WITH CLERK
12/03/2003 JUDGE HALE R STANCIL ASSIGNED
12/03/2003 PROSECUTOR: CONRAD JUERGENSMEYER ASSIGNED
12/03/2003 DEFENSE ATTY: HUGH LEE ASSIGNED
12/03/2003 SWORN ARREST COMPLAINT AFFIDAVIT FILED
12/03/2003 AFFIDAVIT OF INDIGENCY AND APPOINTMENT PUBLIC DEFENDER
12/03/2003 ASSESSED PUBLIC DEFENDER APPL FEE 40.00 DUE 12/10/2003
12/03/2003 UNIFORM TRAFFIC CITATION FILED
12/05/2003 DRIVER LICENSE HISTORY FILED
12/08/2003 WRITTEN PLEA OF NOT GUILTY
12/08/2003 NOTICE OF PARTICIPATION IN DISCOVERY
12/18/2003 INFORMATION FILED
12/18/2003 FILED 1,2,3,4,5
12/18/2003 ARRAIGNMENT SET FOR 01/14/2004 AT 09:00 IN MAIN/A,
12/18/2003 JDG: HALE R STANCIL
12/30/2003 NOTICE OF ARRAIGNMENT
12/31/2003 STATES DISCOVERY EXHIBIT
01/14/2004 ARRAIGNMENT PLEA ENTERED
01/14/2004 DEFENDANT ENTERED PLEA OF GUILTY 1,2,3,4,5
01/14/2004 VERDICT OF NO TRIAL 1,2,3,4,5
01/14/2004 DEFENDANT APPEARED PRES W/ATTYFOR NO TRIAL 1,2,3,4,5
01/14/2004 ADJUDICATED GUILTY 1,2,3,4,5
01/14/2004 CREDIT FOR TIME SRV – CNT 1
01/14/2004 ASSESSED PROBATION ACCOUNT FELONY 1575.00 DUE 01/13/2008
01/14/2004 ASSESSED $1,575.00 DUE 01/13/2008 – CNT 2
01/14/2004 DRUG OFFENDER PROBATION FOR 4 YRS – CNT 2
01/14/2004 COMMUNITY SERVICE FOR 768 HOURS – CNT 2
01/14/2004 SENT PROV – COMMUNITY SERVICE – CNT 2
01/14/2004 CREDIT FOR TIME SRV – CNT 3
01/14/2004 CREDIT FOR TIME SRV – CNT 4
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01/14/2004 PLEA AGREEMENT/WAIVER OF RIGHTS
01/14/2004 COURTS SENTENCING ORDER FILED
01/14/2004 SCORESHEET
01/14/2004 JUDGMENT AND SENTENCE
01/14/2004 CASE CLOSED
01/14/2004 ASSESSED FELONY DRUG OFFENSE 1575.00 DUE 01/13/2008
02/03/2004 FINAL MONEY JUDGMENT FOR LEGAL SERVICES
02/06/2004 JUDGMENT OF GUILT AND PLACING DEFENDANT ON PROBATION
02/13/2004 CORRESPONDENCE RETURNED NOT DELIVERED TO DEFENDANT
05/18/2004 CORRESPONDENCE FROM DEFENDANT
10/18/2004 AFF VIOL OF PROB CC FOR VOP STATE
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10/21/2004 PAYMENT OF $ 9.23 RECEIVED ON PDAPP
10/26/2004 REOPENED FOR VOP WARRANT
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01/12/2005 JUDGMENT AND SENTENCE
01/12/2005 CASE CLOSED
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01/24/2005 LIEN OF RECORD ISSUED- FAILURE TO PAY PD APPLICATION FEE
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I’m at my wit’s end these ppl should be looked into too! MY GOD!I’ll search them!
WhyDIditTakeSoLongForBioMomToShowUp
That’s some darn fine parenting huh? My God,nobody on either family’s side had a chance by looking at these!
Did u hear they arrested a suspect in the Sommer murder and kidnapping. A 24 yr old was arrested with 29,, yes 29 counts of child porn. The guy lived down the block from Somer.
He most of moved recently prior to that becuase this house that was searched on her block was now vacant, the home he lived in before this he left quick enough where he left his computor. A room mate just must of used that computor and found all sorts of child porn on it,, they did not say where the guy left the computor, which address what state. They did say he moved from Somers block to Mississippi.
Haleigh lives a few hours away, I remember them saying 50 miles but that would be only about a hour away. What if this guy left his last residence so quick because he was running from what he did in that neighborhood, could it of been same trailor park as Haleigh. We dont no that yet. Kinda feel sick with all that porn that was on his putor.. man, oh man
Yes Cathy I noticed the parenting, it is horrible.
Cathy I am so sorry about your husbands killer being released after six months, that horrible.
Gosh that had to be so hard to get past.
Thats as bad at this innocent being locked up the guilty being caught and let go, so sick.
Thank You Why,I never knew anyone who was murdered ever and I believed the District attorney and le when they told me not to talk of it till trial……BIG MISTAKE!
That’s why i don’t trust them……He was my 1st love,first kiss,1st everything,married him when i was 15 and he was 18 and we were married 25 yrs till this monster took him away!
And he’s free’er than me,my dauughter and grandson are!!He still lives here too!
he was allowed to bring the murder weapon he used to the police statin after fleeing to ga the night he did it and get this…..two weeks after the murder?
The day they cuffed him he waved with them on in the cruiser as we were leaving the courthouse and smiled?? SO COLD!
Oh my gosh, Cathy I have chills. I no you will never be able to get over it, but I am praying for you all, That is just so sad. Again, I am so sorry.
I just got this post from another, hope u guys done mind me posting it here.
cazk 3 hours ago
hey everyone, I cant say much but the house belonged to someone I know and I told the cops about him a few weeks back, I showed them the house and filled them in on a few things about this person and the fact that he had been living there about 2 weeks alone when lil somer went missing. Infact the cop ran his tag while I was there to make sure it was the right guy. I hope in my heart that he didnt do this but other things I cant talk about yet lead me too point out his house to the cops. (age) 20 to 25.
cazk 34 minutes ago
They got him, This is the guy I told LE about and showed them his house. Gmartin997 I dont think I said (too much) but at the same time I guess your right and I should have waited till after 7pm to open my mouth about it. I dont care if he knows its me or not, I have 4 kids of my own and I turned him in on the child porn, his mom and dad moved out of that house about 2 or 3 weeks before Somer (God bless her soul) went missing. I wanted too see his sick you now what behind bars, I still hope hes not the one that killed that poor child but at least he in jail on the child porn now.
http://www.news4jax.com/news/22535336/detail.html
Gosh Cathy I am so sorry, what a cold selfish person. I cant believe he is free to do it again. He took a life and ruined the life of so many and paid only with six months.
Exactly,Why!
You know ppl think when this happen’s to someone that they have only taken a life.as if 1 isn’t enough….no i don’t thnk so,They took a Husband,father,grampa,brother,nephew,uncle,
best friend,a cousin…you get it I’m sure…..it’s like taking 1000 or more lives!!
Something has to be redone in that Justice system for sure. This is just so wrong.
And for Misty and Ron, I am so agaisnt drugs and selling drugs, but you get a mandatory 25 yrs for each count, and a killer walks after six months. Whats wrong with this picture.
righttttttttt,that’s it right there!!
I could tell you things you wouldn’t believe but out of fairness fot my husband i won’t tell the story unless i can tell the whole story…..and lord it would flod this board!..I will see if i can scan by Victim’s statement i wrote to read in court that day which explain’s alot and you would think this man would have never got off so easy,and shoul have never ever went free,you will not believe it!
His life goes on and I have to need something desperately to even put one foot out my door!
Justice system sucks!!!!!
My sister n law is calling from ky,I hate to leave youuuuuu,I’ll bb as soon as i can tho!!!
And I appreciate the kind word’s!!I hate leaving somebody alone.lol
LOl, how kind of u. I was watching tv, helping one of my sons with his work and talking to u,, enjoy your sister Ill bbs also.
Cathy did u ever come back..
The suspect in the Somer kidnapping and murder was in clay county. Check this map out,, Haleighs house is in the joining county,Putnum county.. look how close he lived just a few months ago to Haleigh. Wonder where he lived before that..He now lived in Miss. and other Florida homes have been seached that he lived and a car.
http://www.censusfinder.com/mapfl.htm
Harrell used when he lived with roommates at a home in Orange Park, Fla, in August.
This is the place he left the child porn on a computor.
Found ya!!! I have been lost.lol couldn’t find the active thread,lol
OFF TOPIC here but have you ever seen the eyes for lies site,interesting…..
Im gonna have to reboot or something,my screen keeps freezing for some reason!Takes forever to post!
Why!! If you come back you might find this interesting,I like this site,Eyes for Lies!!
This is her opinions on reading the people involved and especially Ron And Misty!
Makes for some interesting reading,ya know!
This is some of it actually hair raising toward the end!
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My Thoughts:Ronald & Misty on The Today Show
Meredith Vieira interviewed Ronald Cummings and Misty (nee Croslin) Cummings on The Today Show Friday. The video continues to support my original belief that both Ronald and Misty know more than they are telling us.
Read more Interestingly enough, NBC reporter, Michelle Kosinski, now reports that the police are calling Misty “the key to solving this case.” Police are finally publicly acknowledging that there are inconsistencies in Misty’s statements. However, Kosinski also reported that the police “…are satisfied that Ronald doesn’t really know what happened to his little girl.” I suspect this is a very strategic move by police. It does not discourage my original opinion, as I still think Ronald knows more than he is letting on.
I was shocked to see that Ronald didn’t dress up for his wedding. I think that his responses in this interview and the way he behaved through the whole wedding event are supportive that he had other motives for this marriage than “love”.
When I first saw Ronald and Misty in the interview, they did not appear happy or encouraged about being there (i.e., grateful for such an opportunity). I almost felt like they wanted a free trip to New York, and so they decided to do the interview as a means to that end. Both looked very nervous, and not at all anxious or eager to be there to get the message out. Ronald says he went to New York to renew the focus back on Haleigh, but he had that same opportunity, at home, as we all know, so that is ridiculous.
Here are my thoughts on the interview with Ronald and Misty:
Vieira: …so why did you want to come here today? What are you hoping to accomplish, Ronald, today?
Ronald: Uh… to get the focus back on my daughter’s missing (smirk). My five-year-old girl is gone, and I want to find her.
What is fascinating about this is it’s the first time I am seeing what appears to be delight in Ronald. In this statement, his face shows a very positive emotion. I am wondering if this is the first time he has heard that he is not being looked at by police, and that is giving him joy, but if that was the case, I would also expect to see a sense of “relief”, which I do not. I just see a sense of joy. Why is Ronald feeling joy?
Vieira: Have they said anything to you about any possible leads at all?
Ronald: (curls his lower lip down and very slightly out, shakes his head no, and looks down, which is a sign of withdrawal–that he doesn’t want to talk about it.)
Vieira: Nothing.
I don’t believe Ronald here for an instant. He knows more than he is letting on. I suspect the police have told him some things that Ronald doesn’t want to share with us. Perhaps it is that they are looking at Misty closer? Notice that the “smirks” disappeared here? That question didn’t make Ronald very happy. Why?
Vieira then goes on to discuss how Ronald, Jr. talked about a man dressed in black taking Haleigh, and she asks Misty if Ronald, Jr. told either one of them about this. Misty says “umm-um, nope”, and Ronald responds:
Ronald: Me, neither (slight smirk). I think this is some of the garbage that Geraldo and Crystal, the mother, has made up, but I’m just going to leave that at that.
Notice how Ronald lights up when he talks about this? He is working overtime to conceal his delight here. He almost is gritting his teeth to hold it back! I suspect he has really bad feelings towards Crystal right now and just gets joy out of hitting back at her, too. Clearly, he is becoming more smug–almost arrogant.
Vieira: Oh, so you don’t even believe that Ronald Jr. even said this at all?
Ronald: (Classic shoulder shrug, lip curl) I don’t know. (Notice he is smirking!). I wasn’t at home. I was at work (he’s gloating!), (shoulder shrug) I can’t tell you, honestly.
I don’t believe Ronald here for a second! Ronald is exceptionally smug in this video. He has an arrogance about him that is palpable. One indication of Ronald’s arrogance here is how he cocks his head backward and looks down his nose at Vieira. Does he think he is fooling the world right now, or what?
Throughout much of the interview, Ronald has a very nervous energy about him. Notice how he wiggles his leg? I get the sense he really wants to say so much more. Ronald, I suspect, if he could tell us his true thoughts, would tell you he feels like he is in a vice.
Do you notice Misty is biting her lip? It’s an indication she is very nervous. She’s tense and scared. I suspect her heart is really pounding in her chest.
Ronald looks very intently at Vieira at times in this interview. If I were Vieira, I would find his looks threatening. They actually get my heart pounding. He then licks his lips, and I just get this feeling he is very volatile or could explode at any second. Misty licks her lips as well, but I don’t feel threatened by her. I feel she is very nervous and uncomfortable. Two different emotions from these two people who both lick their lips.
Vieira then asks Misty why she stopped talking to investigators earlier this week, and Misty tells us the investigator was being very rude to her, and she wasn’t comfortable talking to him. I believe she is being dead honest here. She gets quite confident when she says this, which we have rarely seen Misty do. Misty is usually very timid, because she is feeling insecure about the things she has been telling us. Notice how her words flow here, how she doesn’t have to think about what she is talking about here? This is Misty when she is honest and sincere with us.
Do you see Ronald do his infamous “under-eye” watch of Misty when she talks? This shows exceptionally controlling behavior on behalf of Ronald. He is dying to look at Misty and give her a look or a message that he doesn’t approve of what she is saying, but he doesn’t dare do it. He continues to restrain himself.
Vieira to Misty: So he was accusing you of lying to him?
Misty: Yeah.
Ronald: After passing the polygraph (smiling).
Vieira: I think part of the problem is there have been a certain number of inconsistencies, or what’s perceived to be inconsistencies, because you first said that Haleigh was in bed with you, then you said she was on the mattress next to you. This is an opportunity to clarify. You’ve had time to think through what happened that night. Can you walk us through it, one more time, your best recollection of what happened the night Haleigh disappeared?
When Misty gives her response, you can clearly see her thinking as she talks about it. Notice how different her behavior is here, compared to when she was telling us the truth above? Her words do not flow naturally here, whereas above, they did.
Vieira: Help me out, Misty. Why were there inconsistencies? Why did you say one thing, one time, and one time, the other?
Misty: (Notice how she purses her lips?) Ummm….. (Notice how she shakes her head to suggest she is thinking “I don’t know”? Notice how she looks to Ron for an answer, and then she looks down?) I don’t know (she shrugs her shoulders simultaneously).
When Misty looks to Ron during the interview segment above for help, it is fascinating, because it is strongly suggestive for us that Ronald is the one who is the decision-maker of the two of them–the one who is in charge in their relationship. Misty looks to Ronald for answers.
During this segment, Ronald also looks down and is very intense. His behavior is indicative of withdrawal. When two people are in cahoots, and one says something the other doesn’t agree with, one will often withdraw by looking down and ceasing all communication. It’s a powerful message of disapproval, which further supports that he is the controlling one of the two of them; however, Misty totally misses it.
Why is Ronald so controlling over this situation if, (a) they are telling the truth, and (b) he is innocent? It is flat out inconsistent! If they were honest and truthful, he would have no reason to worry about Misty, but he clearly does!
Vieira: Then yesterday you guys got married, Ronald. Why was that an important thing for you to do?
Ronald: I don’t know. I think my little girl would have wanted it. I would have rather her to have been there, so obviously when we get her back (smirk), we will….do…a much larger, better wedding (super slight smirk), but we’re just…that’s just still (smirking) taking the focus off of (smiling) Haleigh (smile continues). We need to be focused on Haleigh (smile ceases abruptly) and not what I am focused on in my personal life.
Notice Misty keeps licking her lips? I wonder if because she is nervous, she is breathing more, and it is drying out her lips.
This segment is very telling about why Ronald married. If Misty was the reason, I would think he would talk about her first, but he doesn’t. It’s a strong indication there were other motives that Ronald doesn’t want to talk about.
I think we are seeing classic duper’s delight at this point when Cummings is talking about having a much better wedding when Haleigh returns. As soon as he thinks about himself again, his emotions change because he is frustrated that his privacy is invaded.
Vieira: Is there anything else you would like to say in case somebody is out there who might know something?
Ronald: Ummm…. if you (smirking) know something (looking up thinking), please call the crime stoppers….or….the….any local sheriff’s office…and….if my little girl is watching, baby, I love you.
Do you notice how Ron has to think to do what is important for his daughter? It’s mind-blowing! Notice how he doesn’t talk to the camera, that he only glances at it? This is indicative that he doesn’t believe she is out there listening. He also has no genuine inflection in his voice. He is monotone every time he talks to Haleigh. Why does he smirk again?
Vieira: And Misty as you sit here, do you believe in your heart that they see you as a suspect?
Misty: (very smug, perhaps a form of denial) No, I don’t. (notice the brief head swagger?)
Ronald: I don’t either (smirking). I talked to the lead detective. His name is John Merchant.
Vieira: And he said?
Ronald: (smirking) Nope, he doesn’t think that she is a suspect.
Ronald is arrogant in this interview, and feels a sense of joy, which I suspect is duper’s delight. Is that because he doesn’t believe the police are on to him now, and that he is getting away with it?
I do think Misty is the “key” to solving this case, because she depends heavily on Ronald, and Ronald is very volatile, if you want my opinion. If Ronald were to be put under more pressure, he could very likely become unpredictable and even dangerous, and police may know that, so hence Misty is their best shot at getting to the truth, if they can’t find Haleigh on their own.
looking for Justice said,in February 11th, 2010 at 11:45 am ms.p you are right Teresa never said she picked up Haleigh from the bus stop and you are right Teresa was not there at Rons home when officers arrived the night of Haleighs disappearance. I was merely stating How would Teresa know Ron definitely picked up Haleigh that day unless she was personally there with Ron to witness it. On Nancy last night it was said That Teresa and Ron insist he picked up Haleigh not Misty. The witnesses say Misty. all of the witnesess are consistent it was Misty who picked up Haleigh; not Ron.
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But I thought I read somewhere that she didn’t have a driver’s license?
CathyJo63 said,in February 12th, 2010 at 2:20 am Why!! If you come back you might find this interesting,I like this site,Eyes for Lies!!
This is her opinions on reading the people involved and especially Ron And Misty!
Makes for some interesting reading,ya know!
This is some of it actually hair raising toward the end!
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Thank you for posting this CathyJo63. I had not read it, and after two days of actually considering that maybe I was wrong and there was some deeper conspiracy going on here, I realized that my gut is probably right. Ms. Viera has put into words a lot better than I could have, everything that bothered me about that interview.
hello alethea,
my understanding is that misty did go get a drivers license at some point, as people were commenting on her driving without having one. some months back, people here commented that crystal did not get a d.l. for some time as it is custom in the area not to bother to get one. i believe marie and crystal stated ron did not want crystal to have one.
alethea, did you see a.h.’s article where it talks about witnesses saying misty picked up haleigh that monday?
“Exclusive: Haleigh Cummings’ Last Day”
http://www.artharris.com/2009/09/09/exlusive-haleigh-cummings-last-day/
have a wonderful day! ms.p.
Thanks, ms.p., and you have a wonderful evening.
It amazes me how everyone appears to be trying to place all blame on Misty. This was a 17 year old child and it is evident that she has some serious mental issues. She is not intelligent enough to be running a drug ring like she has been accused of. I also question why the police did not do anything about a 30 year old man like Ronald moving this child in with him and sleeping with her. I thought the cops would be pressing rape charges against him which is what they should have done were they even trying to do their jobs.
This is a sad situation for this little girl and then you have someone like Lard Butt Nancy Grace spending her time bad mouthing her constantly. I wonder how she would feel if this was her child that some man as old as Ronald had moved into his bed.
where is that scumbag ronald who made
a complete fool of nancy grace that un
educated southern scumbag would be dangerous
if he had any brains or education….look
at the two of these hippocrites, they are
truly trailer trash….lock them up and
throw the key away with no food….try this
shit in the north, like mass or nj and see
how far it gets a whore like misty
Misty will not be in court on the 19th. Her court date has been pushed to Janurary 2011. Tommy is still in St. Johns County.
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