This in from TJ Hart – Jan Barrett
It was one year ago today that now 6-year-old Haleigh Cummings vanished from her home in Satsuma, FL. Since then, little has be revealed as to how she disappeared or who might have taken her.
After a year of some unbelievable behaviors that were displayed by the families of the missing a child, we now find Haleigh’s father Ronald Cummings and the woman who babysat Haleigh the night she vanished Misty Croslin behind bars on drug trafficking charges.
Arrested along with Ron and Misty on January 20, 2010, was Ron’s cousin Hope Sykes, Misty’s brother Tommy Croslin and Misty’s confidant Donna Brock.
When Brock came to Putnam County last year, she worked for the group Texas Equusearch. They’re trained professionals who travel the country looking for missing children. Texas EquuSearch director Tim Miller has stated in interviews with WSKY that he wanted Brock to get close to Misty for the sake of the investigation and trying to see what, if anything, Misty knew about what happened to Haleigh.
AUDIO: Tim Miller Talks About Misty’s Gal Pal Donna Brock
AUDIO: Tim Miller Talks About Misty’s Possible Whereabouts the Night of the Abduction
“Look, they pulled me into the office for two hours to this room before they even brought me to jail,†Brock said. “They questioned me about where Haleigh is, they think Misty already told me where she’s at.”
WJXT VIDEO: Donna Brock’s Jail Audio
In the tapes, Brock talks about how detectives think Misty told her what happened to Haleigh because over the last several months, the two appear to have gotten close.
Brock states on the phone that she gave pills to Misty and that Misty needed them because she was in pain.
“I didn’t think it was no big deal, I didn’t want them you know what I’m saying?†said Brock. “I didn’t need them, I didn’t want them. It was more on my thinking if I just gave these to her, maybe she’ll trust me a little bit more.”
We cannot at this time identify who Brock was talking to on the phone, but the conversation did turn to Haleigh and the rumor that she accidentally got into some some pills the night she vanished.
97.3 The Sky is in the process of obtaining the complete set of redacted phone call audio files from Donna Brock from the St. Johns County jail.
TJ Hart
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Follow-up comment rss or Leave a TrackbackThank you for the update. My hope it that Haleigh will be set free today!!! That she will run up to her grandma at the candle lighting tonight.
Treece, I sure hope and pray that you’re right! I pray for closure for the family and justice to be served.
Why would Misty be in pain? Its been months since she was roughed up during the robbery.
That statement doesnt make sense. Also sounds like she is trying to get out of trouble, like I didnt do anything but give her pills I didnt sell anything. And who knows if she never touched the pills or the money and didnt say anything incriminating she may get away with it.jmo
The money was marked and the serial # were taken so where did all the money end up at?
Another one of those follow the money things. jmo
The last statement from the guy is redacted he starts to say well Misty then it goes on to that girl, something he said got removed. jmo
Tobias, this may not even be what it was they were redacting, but Right before Ron and Tommys fight and ratgate there was a rumor in which LE denounced on the day they released the statement that the parents were not suspects.It was around Haleigh birthday August 16th. In that rumor the woman in the doctors office said that Haleigh had been put in that dumpster and then removed and put somewhere else. The woman also said that they; meaning LE was looking at Ron and Misty. LE was saying then that Haleigh had overdosed. Just a possibility.
I would sure love to know who this guy is….but if not mistaken…they have to sign in if visiting an inmate…..
I think we will know very soon….
Personally, I think when the truth comes out… it will be Misty pointing fingers at RON & Ron pointing fingers at Misty. Since Ron passed the lie detector test it’s more believable that Misty did something to Haleigh. Maybe that’s the reason she hasn’t spoke up yet.
Nancy Grace will have brand new tapes of Ron talking to his mother tonight. What little I heard was interesting. He seems to be telling TN that “they” told him what to say to Misty..to tell her he loved her more than ever and that he had lost HaLeigh and now he’s lost Jr.
Hmmm.
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/nancy.grace/
Everyone keeps saying Ron passed the lie detector test. I would like someone to show proof of this statement. The only one saying he passed is Ron himself. And Statements made 6 mo. ago are pretty old arent they things have changed radicly since then wouldnt you say? jmo
Are we sure Ron passed the poly test? I’m still waiting for someone to confirm this. I also believed it was Misty since Ron passed the poly but know I’m doubting that since I haven’t seen any proof of a passed poly
DB is trying to set up her defense, notice, that comment about LE appreciate what you were doing, but…..
B.A.cent, I wonder if the money was recovered and who had it. It was 3,900 dollars and which party had all the money? jmo
Well not to make fun but we know Tommy sure didnt have any of the money.lol jmo
Tobias, I’m sure the money was recovered.
The money the UC used LE had all the serial #s on so where is the money,maybe we wont find out till they go to court. jmo
I still think the fight at Rons was about the cover up and thats why the headless rat was put in Tommys mailbox.
It appears that everyone arrested is opting for the “hey! I wasn’t dealing! I was just helping out a friend in need!” defense. Good luck with that guys and gals. Talk to the hand! kh
firstcoastnews is reporting that the Croslins have left the neighborhood……
Neighbors are very glad they left too.
Hank Sr. is due in court this month and now I’m wondering if he left the state?
Doubt that LE knows exactly where they are. Lisa is on probation and Hank is on bond. They are more than likely with a friend or at a shelter. jmo
tobias said,in February 10th, 2010 at 2:22 pm I still think the fight at Rons was about the cover up and thats why the headless rat was put in Tommys mailbox.
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You believe Tommy? Tommy is a hopeless junkie…I wouldn’t believe a thing he says. In fact, I think he’s the one who probably did something to Haleigh.
I don’t know about Tommy harming Haleigh. What would be his motive? I can see him helping in a cover up but what would he benefit in hurting or taking her?
As we all know, LDTs are so unreliable that they are not allowed to be used as evidence in court. I think we also all know that LE can say whatever it wants to the public and to individuals for their own purposes (as in lie, misdirect, mislead). So can anyone else.
So, as far as the LE administered LDTs given to R, C and M, I believe the only info we have from LE – from which we may have gotten the impression that R and C “passed” is reflected in LE’s formal press release around Haleigh’s birthday. The following is an excerpt from BNN article Haleigh Cummings – PCSO Press Release, August 17.
“The biological parents, Ronald Cummings and Crystal Sheffield, are not considered to be suspects in the case. Investigators believe that Misty Croslin-Cummings continues to hold important answers in the case. She has failed to provide any sort of detailed accounting of the hours during the late evening and early morning of Haleigh’s disappearance. Furthermore, physical evidence at the scene contradicts Misty’s sketchy account of her evening activities. Any citizen with direct knowledge of Misty’s activities during that evening or into the early morning is encouraged to report that information to the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office.”
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So, IMO, if it suits anyone to believe that R,C or M passed or failed those LDTs in order to work out your theory, there is no reason not to do so.
I doubt LE is going to tell us for sure (and would you believe them anyway? Would you believe R or C or M wasn’t screwy enough to be able to pass/fail it on purpose?) So pick whatever pass/fail suits your theory and work with it. JMO
Me, I think Tommy put that rat in his own mail box.
Romewi, I don’t think Tommy had a motive unless he helped someone pull this off for money or drugs.
m2c, I agree the LDT don’t prove or mis prove anything.
Romewi…Tommy is a hopeless and desperate junkie. He’d sell anything he could get his hands on to get drugs, including another guys little girl…imo. And sadly, I wouldn’t put it past him to be a paedophile himself.
treece…I also think Tommy put it in his own mailbox. He is a seriously creepy guy.
Agreed on the LDT, I mean, Ted Bundy passed one. Come on now.
Either way, Misty may not be as smart. She probably thinks that “Since they say” Ron passed one that she will get the hit & I’m sure she’s not willing to take that hit.
She’s begging to get out.
& She knows that the bond is only so high hoping she will talk. I’m sure she realizes it’s an intimidation thing.
Idk.
Hi, WthACherryonTop!
Oh, yes, I agree. M thinks she’s being persecuted. So does T. Maybe they are. IDCare! Doesn’t matter. The effect is the same. The “deal” is the same (I assume). Are we even sure LE is offering a deal? I would hope so. But remember, “officially” the drug case and Haleigh’s disappearance are not connected (wink.wink). Anyway I hope this tactic works and one of them knows something and will talk SOON! Otherwise I think they’ll be in jail for a long time and we won’t know anything – possibly ever – about Haleigh.
So if DB knows anything, she’s hanging on to it. I wonder where HER secret tapes are. Don’t believe she destroyed any, she’s a bit clever and been around the block several times.
**Off Topic**
But, her voice is a pleasant surprise, I thought she’d sound like TM/Cobra.
Okay, let’s review the facts….are at least what we THINK are the facts….
1. Misty failed her poly – not sure about Ron
2. Ron’s alibi about being at work may not be completely true
3. Misty didn’t want to watch the kids and was hungover from a three day drug binge
4. SOMEONE used the van (moved it)
5. Ron marries Misty even though he doesn’t seem to be in love with her – some say to keep his enemy close but could it also be because THAT is what she wanted and she is keeping his secret?
6. Misty doesn’t answer her phone all evening.
7. Jr. says a man in black was in the house that night
8. Misty’s story about who was sleeping where, when she went to bed and what she did all evening is out of whack and inconsistent
9. Tommy says he went by the house at 10:00 at Ron’s request – Ron says that is a lie (wouldn’t the cell phone records confirm that one way or another?)
10. Cops were at Tommy’s house when Misty called 911
11. A repairman was at the house earlier that day
12. Misty doesn’t call 911 until Ron gets home
13. Both Ron and Misty are deep into drug dealing / using
14. Both seem to have a long list of enemies
15. Cousin Joe is a pedophile but was at the house with the kids?
16. A headless rat ends up in the mailbox….what secret is Ron trying to keep? Did Ron put it there?
17. Misty and Ron split but keep in close contact even after their divorce….is it a secret that keeps them together?
18. Rumors of Haleigh OD’ing come from multiple sources.
19. Ron, Tommy and Hank duke it out in the front yard over Misty but Misty takes Ron’s side
20. Everyone in the family gets arrested at least once for forgery, theft or drugs
21. Misty appears to be frightened…but of whom?
22. The story about the van moving gets changed multiple times….why? Was there any evidence in that van? Was Haleigh’s blanket found there?
23. Did cousin Joe really take off back to Georgia or Tennessee that night or is that rumor?
24. Was the landfill ever searched after the dogs hit on the dumpster?
25. A year later and we still have NOTHING from LE…no suspect, no person of interest…just a statement that “foul play” is suspected and the odds are against this being a stranger abduction…what led LE to that conclusion?
26. Other than the first couple of days, WHAT have Ron and Misty done to really look for Haleigh? Do they already know her fate and that is why they weren’t out searching?
27. Is Ron acting tough and running his mouth because he WANTS to be in solitary confinement instead of GP? If so, why? Who is he afraid of?
28. With all of Misty’s inconsistantcies and Ron’s temper….why has he been so “understanding” and “forgiving” of her stories and lack of cooperation with LE? Unless he is part of the reason Haleigh is missing and Misty is merely covering for him!
29. In the 911 call for Haleigh going missing, Misty is relatively calm and emotionless…yet in her 911 call when she’s getting roughed up selling or buying drugs she is animated and emotional…..was the 911 call for Haleigh a cover-up timed perfectly with Ron’s return home?
Okay, my facts have gone from statements to questions! LOL I obviously have more questions then facts and I’m not even sure if any of my “facts” are 100% accurate! This case is driving me NUTS!
JB – Good list
#2 – Unless PCSO is hopelessly incompetent they would have thoroughly checked with PDM about R’s work hours right away. If PDM was changing their system or whatever LE should have known that from the get-go as well as be able to figure out if there was a way for R to leave and return unnoticed. So LE should have got that right back then (no matter what we think now).
#5 – I still think R married M to avoid stat rape charges especially since they were about to fly to NY for an interview. There was a LOT of public outrage about her living with him and it was an embarrassment to local LE who I expect “suggested” the wedding. JMO
#6 – Just recently I read that M is supposed to have called Timmy a number of times that night? I don’t know if it’s true. I thought her phone was shut off after 8:30pm
Re #9: Cell phone records would show who called who and when but not what was said. R might have asked T if M was there. He may not have asked him to go check on them. Who knows?
T is such a sneak that I’m sure if all R asked was “is M there?” or “do you know where she is?” T would sneak over there anyway (knowing R was at work). Or T might have mentioned the call to pedophile cousin Joe who was sleeping on T’s couch that night and could have sneaked over there himself.
Re # 3: That M did not want to babysit that night. If she was so tired why not ask for help with the children starting when R left for work??? Rather than that night???? I’d have appreciated covereage for about five hours with two lively kids in the afternoon before bedtime rather than help at night when they’ve gone to bed (and I could too).
MAYBE M had an appointment that night? MAYBE she’d made an arrangement with someone during her 3-day binge BEFORE she knew whether she was going to get back together with R or not?
And if so, maybe she kept that appointment – at the MH or elsewhere. Not wanting to babysit that night does not make sense to me.
I would think it would be her husband on the phone, or someone who also works with Tex.Eq.
Treece , there was witness that saw Ron there around midnight. The ladys name was in the paper in Putnam County. I know you don’t think much of Tim Miller, but he gave testament that Ron told him he put the rat in Tommys mail box because he wanted to see what Misty looked like when she was lying. Misty told LE that she and Ron were at a party to alibi Ron.
M2C
#2 I thought it was recently mentioned that Ron’s job was going through a time clock change or something and that they couldn’t be sure he was there or if he left and came back. I SURE wish we could see what LE has….would certainly help!
Not sure if you are following the baby Gabriel case but I find it interesting that they are running paralell investigations – one a missing child and one a homicide. WHY CAN’T LE DO THAT IN THIS CASE? They suspect foul play….the child is obviously gone….wouldn’t it shake up those involved if this turned to a homicide investigation? Maybe stir things up a little and get people nervous? If they can run paralell investigations for baby Gabriel, why not Haleigh?
#5 – You’re probably right…creep
#6 – hadn’t seen that report…..once again would REALLY be nice to see what all LE has so we could piece this together. Too many holes and inconsistant statements – don’t know WHAT to believe
#3 – nothing about her story adds up. There is something REALLY fishy about the entire evening and you could be onto something with the whole “she had an appt./date/meeting/drug deal/party” thing planned that she didn’t want to miss. Could she have drugged the kids so she could go and Haleigh died? Called Timmy to help her cover it up? Could they have been drugs Ron gave her and so he’s keeping quiet for fear of getting in trouble for the drugs? Van used to move Haleigh’s body? Was Timmy dressed in black and that is who Jr. saw?
SO many questions! LOL
On Nancy Grace right after she started covering again since the arrest. Tha stat charge came up and the lawyers satated that even though that he married Misty they still could have charged him. Marriage did not prevent charges on stat or testifying against one another in the disappearance of Haleigh.
LFJ – why do you think Ron married Misty?
looking for justice @ 4:20 – True. But they did not charge him, did they? But they might have HAD to after R and M flew to NY for that interview – that’s out of state and would have compounded the problem big time. I just thought the timing – like a day(?) before that trip – was interesting.
I have always felt they believed they would not have to testify against one another, but after they got married and went on Nancy Grace she informed Ron about the exclusion to the marital law.
looking for justice @ 4:12 – Are you talking about ratgate? The “witness” was supposedly a neighbor and later I read that the view from her house to the box would not have let her see who it was. IDK. SO MUCH gossip around all that and NO CHARGES! Believe me, I think the United States Post Office would have liked to nail someone for that even if PCSO didn’t.
So I don’t think we really know anything much about it.
But again, with things like this and just about anything, choose one or both (R did or didn’t do it) and see how it fits into a theory and take it from there.
LFJ – good point. So you think Ron and Misty KNOW what happened to Haleigh and are behind it?
looking,
I definitely think Ron married Misty due to the stat rape – even if they could have still charged him the public outcry about it was ended with the marriage.
I don’t think Ron married her to keep her quiet or he would still be married to her. I do not think they are covering for each other on anything. It just doesn’t make sense that he would divorce her if he wanted her loyalty.
I will post my thoughts on Tim M in a minute. But you know I can always agree to disagree but I will give you my opinion and I respect yours. I do believe that you too just want truth.
As bits and pieces of info come out I change my mind as to who I think is responsible. All of the people involved are such creeps and criminals so you can’t just pick the “criminal” from the bunch because they ALL fit that profile. So many have something to gain, secrets to keep and stories they can’t keep straight. I just wish we could find this angel and bring her home one way or another.
JB I am suspicious of Ron like I stated before, but I am still not 100%. Perhaps I just do not want to believe that he does know. There are so many reasons to suspect him and I have always said that so far Misty has not thrown Ron under the bus on anything. She has lied for him time after time.
I think Ron divorced Misty because of pressure from everyone.
Article:
Ron Cummings Father of Haleigh has decided to file for divorce from Misty. Ron’s Attorney has told CNN’s Nancy Grace. It’s not apparent if Ronald is Divorcing Misty because of recent probablems they seem to have or pressure from police. A statement from Ronald cummings he told Nancy Grace’s producer Tuesday. “So now, here you go, I divorced her. So now go find my baby.”
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JB my opinion has changed a few times also but it has always stayed on either Misty, Ron, & Tommy or all three acting together. I really don’t think C’s family could/would have done this. To many things would have had to fallen into place to pull it off and it doesn’t make sense to me.
Romewi wrote exactly what i was going to say about why the divorce between Ron and Misty. I also believed they had an understanding between them before they went through with it.
Treece you know I respect you and your opinions. Thank you for respecting mine.
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Looking, I lived in Tx for years. My husbands family is still there. We have ALL been big fans and supporters of TES. I do believe Tim M has been through hell on earth and taken his pain and used it for good. I believe he has done a great job on many search and rescue missions.
However, I think he has fallen & lost sight of his goal in recent months and just keeps rolling around in the same old crap. I know rumor says he is drinking heavily again, I don’t know. What I do know is his behavior has been bizarre and out of character for him. He normally stays out of the investigations, stays focused on the search, the missing. The tales he has told in this case don’t add up. If what he says were true, he should have told it months before he did. He didn’t tell any of his tales until after he got mad at Ron. It is sad to me all the side shows he has caused.
I also do not think Ron trusted him enough to have told him that crap. Isn’t it amazing that no one else heard ROn say any of it? Tim said, Ron said, he wanted to watch Misty lie. Come on Ron had seen her do that dozens of time. He didn’t need to do something so stupid to see her lie. Hiring Donna B was the straw for me. TM playing detective combined with how heartless to do to an already screwed up girl. It was NOT his place to hire her. OK OK I know, I have rambled on with way more than you wanted to hear. Thank you for putting up with my rant. You are right, I don’t believe TM when it comes to anything he says about Ron or Misty. lol
However,this is the first time I have heard of a witness that said they saw Ron at midnight. What’s that about?
Treece I do understand where you are coming from and I do respect that. It was reported that there was renowned Lawyer present and someone else. I am only guessing, but i think the lawyer would have been Mark NeJame. Mark was on Nancy Grace and vouched for all info Tim Miller released.
Treece, Mark Nejame did say he did not think Ronald had anything to do with Haleighs disappearance.
One more point here if Misty was covering anything for Ron do you think he would talk bad to her and talk about other girl friend?
Looking said,
Treece you know I respect you and your opinions. Thank you for respecting mine.
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You are welcome and thank you. I know we are just discussing and debating and that is why I enjoy talking with you. We are both open to the other being right and learning from each other and don’t get mad when we disagree. You are refreshing.
Whoever is saying Ron passed the lie detector test needs to stop saying that.The police have NOT said he passed they havn’t said anything about the lie detector test.The only person who is saying he passed is RON himself.The police have said many times they are not going to release the results.So I don’t know where most of you guy are getting your INFO on the results of Ron passing.
Romewi said,
in February 10th, 2010 at 4:45 pm
I think Ron divorced Misty because of pressure from everyone.
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I totally agree with that. This whole thing is so jumbled up, isn’t it?
I think it is possible especially if she could implicate herself as well.
looking, that is a good point, and could be true. I hadn’t thought of it like that.
treece,
Good question regarding your post @ 5:03 pm.
After dumbing down enough to wrap my brain around the possibility, I would have to answer yes, that I do think Misty could be covering for something even though Ron may possibily have treated Misty terrible and might have even gone so far as to talk about another female friend also. Ron also divorced Misty shortly after marrying her and then continued having contact with her regardless. If the possibility is true and correct regarding Misty covering for something then it is potentially nothing more than a simple *Smoke screen*.
jmo
Star – take a deep breath…we’ve been trying to confirm Ron passed the test for days now….the facts in this case are hazy at best so all we do is compare notes here and share info….most of the info we get is second hand (news reports, blog reports, Nancy Grace, etc) so don’t shoot the messengers…. we’re just trying to piece all this together and figure out what is fact and what is fiction. So chill….it will be okay!
Romewi @ 4:48 – Just an example: Only a few things might have been needed. One is motive and there’s plenty. Two is opportunity. The possibilities there include: getting the key (don’t know when M “lost” hers but if it was during the 3 day drug binge someone could have borrowed it long enough to make a copy). And then the chance for someone to lure her out of the MH when R was at work. Or the chance to give her something that would make her sleep that night.
Given that we are already thinking that M might have left the MH that night or had someone over, both are possible. In fact if M let someone in, they would not have needed a key.
The “someone” did not have to be a member of the S/G family but could have been someone paid by them to look for the opportunity for them.
Just a thought. It’s not impossible.
Don’t want to start any arguments here. I’m just not ready yet to close the door to any possibility.
Treece / Tuff – yes, I think Misty could be covering for Ron….it could be they have enough on each other that neither wants to squeal. Not to mention the fact that Misty is young and naive. I think she buys all of Ron’s crap hook, line and sinker. Maybe that is why Lisa and Hank are trying to tell her there are other women, he has a girlfriend, etc., so they can get her away from Ron and hopefully get her to spill the beans. BUT, if Ron has something on her OR they are in on this together….neither may ever tell on the other. Anyway, I’m beginning to think ANYTHING is possible with these people as they NEVER cease to amaze me! LOL
About R’s LDT. NO ONE can confirm the result of R’s LDT except LE and they have not chosen to do so.
I just want to say that everyone posting on this thread right now are just awesome in my book.
There are varying ideas floating in the discussion, not everyone agrees but you are respectful of each other. None of us know for sure what happened. We know both sides of Haleigh’s family have engaged in criminal behavior at some time. (some more than others) Sometimes when folks are argumentative it’s as though they have an agenda other than caring about where Haleigh is.
Some of you know that for sometime my opinion about what happened to Haleigh is not what we want it to be.
What JB said,in February 10th, 2010 at 4:18 pm pretty much sums up my fears-
#3 – nothing about her story adds up. There is something REALLY fishy about the entire evening and you could be onto something with the whole “she had an appt./date/meeting/drug deal/party” thing planned that she didn’t want to miss. Could she have drugged the kids so she could go and Haleigh died? Called Timmy to help her cover it up? Could they have been drugs Ron gave her and so he’s keeping quiet for fear of getting in trouble for the drugs? Van used to move Haleigh’s body? Was Timmy dressed in black and that is who Jr. saw?
I wonder if Ron didn’t marry Misty too because he was afraid KP might be able to help CS get custody of Jr with the current living arrangement.
Just saying…muah!
Oh,this case is so crazy,I think I’ll change my name to Kay Kolb,cracks me up.LOL Anyway,I guess either there wasn’t alot on Donna’s audio or they are going to use some of it for the trial.
So Donna has a pretrial 04/06/2010 at 9:00 AM,guess she’ll have awhile to think about this.
Oh did you all just hear that Padilla bought Misty’s parents a NEW CAR??? because they were bitching about not being able to go see their druggie daughter?.What else did he buy for them?.Did he pay off their bills and buy them a new house as well? because they were saying they had to move because Tommy’s wife was moving out so they had to move out too.They got everything handed to them because they can’t get off their lazy asses and work like normal people?.Padilla gives shit to people that don’t deserve it.So you do a crime and you get special treatment?? Misty sells drugs,her dad was Doctor shopping got arrested,her mom was arrested on check fraud,her brother has been arrestd mamy times for drugs,stealing you name hes done it.It must be nice to get shit handed to you when you don’t deserve it.
JB – LE has ways of turning one conspirator against the other if they want to. I assume LE knows this and is busy offering both the opportunity. “The first one to tell the truth gets the deal” kind of thing.
I don’t think M is going to decide she’ll go to prison for 20 or more years for R especially if LE tells her he’ll get the deal and get out in ten years or tomorrow.
You sure are right JB how they never cease to amaze people. This case is extremely bizarre!!
LP is working it,wants them to talk to Misty and knows they’re all desperate.Maybe only give enough to keep them desperate,who knows.
M2C – I’m hoping LE is working it hard and is starting to get to someone in this crew. I want them all to come clean, turn on each other and tell the truth! For ONCE in their rotten, miserable lives, do the right thing and tell the flippin’ truth!
I’m hoping Misty will crack soon. She’s not liking this jail thing…BUT she’s convinced that SOMEONE is going to bail her out soon. I’m hoping no one does and realization that she’s there for the long haul starts to sink in…then, MAYBE just MAYBE, she’ll crack and start talking! Or, maybe someone in GP will just beat it out of her! Either way works fine for me! 😆
LFJ – yup, we’re all going to need padded rooms and those lovely jackets with REALLY long sleeves that tie in back before this case is over! 😉
Someone said RC will go to court 2/18 on some stuff,not sure what,read it on twitter.
JB you’ve got that right! LOL
Thanks WinterRose for the info.
Star_Bright said,in February 10th, 2010 at 5:29 pm
Oh did you all just hear that Padilla bought Misty’s parents a NEW CAR???
He could have saved himself some $$$ and just gave them some minutes for their phone. If they can’t even afford minutes on the phone, how in the heck will they put gae in a car??
that’s gas LOL
WinterRose – have you heard when the others are having their pretrial court dates? I wonder who is going first? If I were one of these five I’d be wanting to go first and get MY side of the story out there before everyone else starts yapping and twisting things to make themselves look better….not sure any of these folks are that smart though! Brock is the only one being smart about what she says in calls to friends/family. She doing the CYA thing REALLY well from what I’ve seen this far….”oh, I didn’t want the drugs so I just gave them to Misty….” “Misty needed them and I didn’t want or need them…” “I thought it would make Misty trust me…get her to open up…” Oh yeah, she’s working it HARD. Her defense is already crystal clear! Meanwhile Misty’s yapping on and on about how many times she sold drugs, how she was wrong, who was with her, how much she sold, etc…lol yup, that girl is about as bright as a burned out light bulb wrapped in a blanket placed in an airtight box sealed in a barrel buried a mile underground! 😆
There’s a pic on Palatka Daily w/Joe and Misty putting up flyers.But the pic is not online,or wasn’t earlier.
katfish – no prob…they can’t afford to put gae in the car either! LOL 😉
I make so many typing errors it is a wonder anyone knows what I’m trying to say! LMAO
LOL,yep,she’s not too bright,is she?Or smarter than we think.I’m not sure about the others,that’s all I’ve heard today.
Brock is in it up to her eyeballs..gave pills to misty for pain? haha sure..your goin down for drug dealin and being criminally stupid..
LP probably gave them gas and phone cards,also,if he bought them a car.
Winter – if he gave them a clear title on the car they’ll be selling it! LMAO I hope he slapped a bumper sticker on it that says “My Daughter’s a Crackhead”! Hee Hee
OJ’s Glove – Yup, Brock thinks she’s smart spinning the story on the jail phone but NO ONE is buying that story. But at least she is smart enought to TRY and spin it to her advantage! Misty uses her jail phone time like a confessional! “FORGIVE ME MA AND PA, CAUSE I SINNED AND HERE BE THE DATES, TIMES, PLACES AND WHO I BE SINNING WITH!” ROFLMAO
I want to know, exactly when did she give some pills to Misty…. was she underage at the time. I don’t think DB is talking about the Undercover incident.
Remember what Hank Sr said to M? Something about “don’t lie no more?” I wonder if LP thinks Hank Sr knows something? And if so will a car pry it out of him?
Or maybe he just wants Hank Sr to be able to keep visiting and keep trying to get M to come to her senses?
JB….Heeeeeeee Heeeeeeeeeee, LMAO
Beautiful – glad I could make you smile. In this case we have to take the smiles where we can! Good night all! Good night Haleigh whereve you are! We WON’T forget you!
Hi, cent! I think DB has to be talking about the UC incident because why would she admit to giving M pills earlier? That’s illegal too. I mean if DB had a real Rx and gave her some of those pills. It would be crazy to admit to that. I think DB’s trying to get out of the “trafficking” charge.
Night JB… yes, laughter is a must!!
Hi, M2C, I say that because my understanding was that the money was directly handed to DB when they were in the UC car.
JB, Tuff,& Looking, you all disagreed with my post here but all had different reasons. All possibly true. One thing is for sure we are making each other think. Good points from you all.
treece said,
in February 10th, 2010 at 5:03 pm
One more point here if Misty was covering anything for Ron do you think he would talk bad to her and talk about other girl friend?
m2c 5:24 – good theory!!!!
JB,that cracked me up and they probably will at some point.LOL
katfish 5:28 good post and back at ya.
Star_Bright said,
in February 10th, 2010 at 5:29 pm
Oh did you all just hear that Padilla bought Misty’s parents a NEW CAR???
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Oh don’t worry I am sure he bought their gas and insurance too. He is something else. Wonder what he thinks he will get from that??
I am wondering about that dentist who was arrested for providing scripts to non-patients. I read a while back where someone said they had taken Misty to a dentist. It might have been Brock who took her, but I really do not remember who it was. Maybe there is no connection between that dentist and this bunch, but what if?
I think Misty was busy staging the scene at the MH the night Haleigh went missing and that’s why she did not call 911 right away. Tommy or someone could have helped, and the van could have been used to remove evidence.
This bunch did not become drug dealers/users just recently so if there were no drugs found in the MH it would be quite odd indeed. I think if there were none found it is because they had scoured the place prior to calling 911. The door was propped open to move all evidence easily into the van.
The drug arrests went down when they did because LE wanted sufficient incidents to make for high bond. Also, they purposely waited until after Misty turned 18.
Hi Cent, this whole thing is making my head spin. I am anxious to see the candle lighting tonight.
Cathartic, I posted a link to the article last night, because that’s what I remembered, too. His bail is high also!!
beautiful*adams (cent) said,
in February 9th, 2010 at 11:59 pm
Could this be related??
http://www.news4jax.com/news/22516071/detail.html
Just sayin
Hey Treece,
I want to see the coverage, and I hope there will be plenty. The entire situation is a mess, and senseless. I still hold HOPE!!
cathartic said,
in February 10th, 2010 at 6:14 pm
The drug arrests went down when they did because LE wanted sufficient incidents to make for high bond. Also, they purposely waited until after Misty turned 18.
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good point
Hey Treece
I’m also waiting to see the coverage, hope there’s plenty.
That was weird!!!(((post)))
cent, I still have hope that Haleigh is alive and will be home soon, too. Tonight would be perfect!!!
Yes, it would be, I’m praying for that!!
This is a video as the vigil is about to begin. So so sad..
http://www.wesh.com/video/22526446/index.html
LP bought the Croslins a car! Wow !
Cent you asked about giving Misty pills while she was underage. Steph Watts said he witnessed it when they went to the early morning show in N.Y.. Misty would have still been underage at the time. You can read about it on his site. I think he said he called and reported her for that.
Everyone have a good night and prayers to you all. I must go for now. Perhaps I will get back later.
Hi, Cathartic! – I agree with your 6:14pm
I think it was DB who supposedly took M to the “dentist.” I wondered if that was the supplier?
Also, even if M was sleeping and had no idea who took Haleigh, I am sure she and R would have had to clear the drugs out or M would have had to do it by herself before he got home or something. Would love to see M’s cell phone records although T only lived 100 yards away. She could have taken them there before R got home and they called.
Leonard Padillo said he had learned his lesson with Casey, and he wouldn’t bail Misty out until she told him where Haleigh was, and they had found her. The car for her parents may be a good sign that they have told Leonard something useful. I have a feeling things are getting ready to break wide open.
Misty’s parents thinks she knows something, and they know her better than anyone else. They wouldn’t keep at her to tell, if they didn’t think she knew something. I would know if my grown son knew something, or not. I would sense it.
If they questioned DB for 2 hrs, just think how many hours they are questioning Misty.
Star bright-
LE have said repeatedly over and over that Ron is NOT considered a suspect. And for those who still dont believe it—YES THEY HAVE. For one instance, does ANYONE HERE think that Ron FLUNKED the lie detector, and is STILL NOT considered a suspect????? I am tired of reading that nobody knows for sure. YES WE DO!For those who want to believe he flunked, then LE is lying to the public and media and there is NO leaking of information from LE to the media—-yeah right.
One other thing, if Leonard gave the Croslin’s a car, he probably gave them money for rent, gas, and minutes on their phone, too. He wants this publicity real bad.
Of course he does. He is a publicity hound, who cares NOTHING about finding Haleigh any more than he cared about finding Caylee. He will bail out Misty, get his 15 min, watch as Misty gets rearrested for drugs, slink away, and return at the next opportunity, all for publicity and the shot at being back on NG.
bonanza, I agree that Ron passed his LDT or LE would not have said Ron wasn’t a suspect.
LE could very well be lying to the public. If they think it will put more pressure on Misty, to say Ron is not a suspect, they could do that. They keep saying, from time to time, that he is on the bottom of the list, not the top of the list. They are not ruling anyone out, entirely. Even Ron’s own lawyer says he is not entirely cleared.
Im laughing at the car bit. This bunch REALLY KNOW how to take advantage and sucker people. LP is naive compared with any of them. The clan are mearly stringing him along, getting everything they can out of him. Anyone want to bet with me that LP gets NADA NOTHING useful in finding Haliegh from ANY of them????????? LP will get NOTHING with his bribes.
Rons LAWYER IS entitled to see the results, and he has said RON PASSED.
http://www.news4jax.com/news/22526686/detail.html
New article of Misty and Lisa call,not audio.
I think LP has already gotten little tidbits from the Croslin’s, enough to get him back on NG for a Blockbuster!
Maybe LP wants to see how high Misty can bounce HIS couch! LMAO
I am NOT going to hold my breath waiting for this “Blockbuster”. I have seen NGs “Blockbusters” before, and many times they turn out to be speculative, imaginary, guessing crap. LP will say NOTHING substantial on NG.
Thank you, bonanzajellybean!
And Karon, you are right. No one has been “cleared.” I don’t know what it would take to clear someone unless they were in jail at the time or something.
IS THIS NEW????
http://www.news4jax.com/news/22526686/detail.html
I think you are right, bonanzajellybean. And I am not in the mood to hear any more of LP’s “theories” that he spins out of thin air.
I am not saying Ron is guilty, but alot of guilty people pass LDT. I
think Ron and Misty, both, know something.
JVM is going to have something on her show about Ron knowing LE’s strategy to get Misty to talk.
BJB, No one gets to see any of LE evidence until there are charges. His Lawyer would not get any info on what LE has. jmo
IT’S NEW********
TJ was just talking on Jane Velez Mitchell.Pics of Misty and Donna that are news and some of her audio.
T.J. is talking by phone to JVM, right now.
Misty got her hair pulled back… now she just needs to slather Vaseline all over her face,time to rumble… she BE mad!!
Cent…
thank you for posting the dentist link again. It was your original posting that led me to read the article about the dentist. As I read it I recalled something about Misty having gone to a dentist.
It could all just be a weird coincidence since people do go to dentists for the right reasons. But if Misty went to that dentist I would question why, since Jacksonville seems far to travel just for a dental checkup. But then, if Satsuma is a rural area maybe residents do have to travel that far for dental services.
I would have referenced your post, if I had been able to locate it. Sorry I was unable to do so.
http://www.cfnews13.com/Business/LocalBusinessHeadlines/2010/2/10/haleigh_cummings_missing_one_year.html
This new article says Misty told LE she left HaLeigh alone for a few minutes and she disappeared.I hope this is verified.
Tobias,
For a lie detector test that is NOT admissible in court ANYWAY, YES his lawyer WOULD see that.
Cathartic,
No worries, I just thought no one else picked up on the dentist. Yes, I would think that it would be out her way, but they seem to travel where-ever, when-ever to get the goods they crave.
*no reference is ever needed with me, but Thank you*
bj, they have also said Misty and Crystal are not a suspect…
treece said,in February 10th, 2010 at 6:52 pm bonanza, I agree that Ron passed his LDT or LE would not have said Ron wasn’t a suspect.
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The same exact day they said Ronald was not a suspect, they also said Misty was NOT one either….
http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/crime/2009-08-17/story/focus_is_narrowing_in_haleigh_cummings_disappearance_police_say
In what are their most detailed comments so far, investigators said Haleigh’s biological parents are not considered suspects in the six-month disappearance and they do not believe it was a stranger abduction.
Misty Cummings is not considered a suspect, said Lt. Johnny Greenwood of the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office, but knows more than she is telling.
Ron is full of it!!!! He is the secret weapon to break Misty? LE is PLAYIN HIS AZZ!!!
Buddy, I don’t understand your concern about LE calling M a suspect or not. Whenever LE talks about her they say she “has important information,” and “she has failed to provide any sort of detailed accounting of the hours during the late evening and early morning of Haleigh’s disappearance. etc.”
They have never said anything like that about R or C. Please see my post at 2:44pm today.
Boy! A lot of hamming up for the cameras.. Misty, Ronald and Tommy all have new attitudes since they got word that their tapes were showing up on Nancy Grace..
Misty is a new woman now… with a new hairdo.
There was misinformation last night on Nancy. Haleigh does not get off the bus until 3:30pm. I personally called Pierce Browning myself and there school time is 8:45 am til 3:00pm. It was reported here and on Arts site that Rons work time was 4pm til 12am. Teresa said right there on Nancys show Haleigh got off the bus at 3:30pm. I will be e-mailing her today. I will be e-mailing Art as well. If this is the case.Then how was Ron at home when Haleigh got home ? That is what I heard last night on Nancys show. I payed no attention at all to Rons and Teresas conversation since it began with ” this is between you and me and whoever is recording this conversation” The first question Ron asked his mom after that was ” Do you think she will talk?” Teresa says HMMMM. Where is the fair and balanced reporting for Ron. If they are going to come down on Misty and Tommy and show their true colors then Ron deserves the same!!!!! They were all in the same cesspool!!
This is in response to ‘Looking for Justice,’ where ‘Justice’ was talking about a doctor’s office and that Haieigh’s body was put into a dumpster and removed.
I remember when they had the cadaver dogs checking places, they hit on a dumpster, but the police said there was nothing there. I agree with what “Looking for Justice” said, I think Haleigh somehow got a hold of some drugs or given something intentionally, died, placed in the dumpster and moved later. Then they went back to Misty and Ron’s house and staged the trailer to look like someone broke in and took Haliegh.
Also, does anyone know what the son Jr. said anything about seeing 4 men in black? Does anyone know if he mentioned anything about being at home or if he was out with his sister and Misty at a party? Or maybe if he was asked if Misty or someone else gave him some medicine before he went to bed? Maybe Misty and her friends drugged the children so she could go to a party without them (since she did say she didn’t want to babysit that night), left them when they fell asleep, came home, found Haleigh dead and called some friends to help her “cover-up” what happened. This may be why Jr. said he seen 4 men in black – when they were taking Haleigh to stage the crime.
Were Misty, Ron and Ron Jr. drug tested? Haleigh had Turner’s and maybe she gave her too much of something or her body couldn’t handle the drug/drugs that Misty or her friends gave Haleigh to put her to sleep.
I think this is what Casey Anthony did too! I think she wanted to go out with her friends and didn’t have a babysitter and because of the fight she had with her mother, she didn’t want to ask her, gave Caylee Xanax, covered her mouth to keep her quite, put her in the trunk and forgot about her. I think Caylee might have died from either an overdose of Xanax, heat exhaustion or both. I think when she went back to her car she found Caylee dead, didn’t know what to do, drove around, went home and when her family said the car smelled “Like a dead body,” she panicked and dumped Caylee in the woods by her house.
The reason I am saying this is because she would talk about “Zanny the Nanny,” which to me could mean Xanax. I think she could have used Xanax in the past on Caylee, but this time Caylee either overdosed, died of heat exhaustion or both.
What does everyone else think?
The name of the friend DB was on the jail recording with was Ben. I heard her say his name when it was played on NG.
One thing I was thinking is that Misty may have took some type of drug to come down from the 3 day high.(maybe xanax) and while she was passed out Haleigh could have gotten into drugs left laying out. When Misty woke up she may have panicked and had help doing something horrible. I think any drugs in the house could have been R’s, T’s, or who knows, but she may be covering up for one of them. I don’t think she is smart enough to cover up a crime by herself. Also there is nothing about the c.dogs hitting anywhere in the house, only outside the home. That would make me think that she was alive when taken out of the home. I would really like to see the time span of calls that night between her and her brother. Anyway it’s just another theory. I really hope we are all wrong and Haleigh is alive and safe somewhere.
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