I assure you there are some of us posting here who were raised in the Deep South and who had grandmothers who married at 14 or 15, etc., and have some understanding of the cultural issues at play here in regard to the issue and if you do not, and do not have a degree in cultural anthropology, I will assume you are speaking from outraged ignorance or merely looking to rip the mother of a missing child to shreds, from some motive best known to yourself.
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You might have kinfolk that procreated at 14 or 15. You might think it is okay for kin to have an affair with an inlaw, stepsibling, cousin, etc.

Some folks just have standards. don’t seem all that strange in my circles.

What age you consider it okay to hook up with your relatives. Butterbean is pushing 5. He might see his stepsissy as a full sissy now just like Marie says. when he gets to be 15, is it okay to have conjugal visits to her bedrooom next door like your granny and pawpaw done? contrary to your deep south warbles, incest is not best!

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Well, my kinfolk had the kind of standards that made it possible for two people of the opposite sex to get MARRIED very young and raise their children through a depression and a world war and the marriage would stick for 50+ years and they certainly knew what is incest and what isn’t, which apparently you don’t have enough education to know.

I assure you there are some of us posting here who were raised in the Deep South and who had grandmothers who married at 14 or 15, etc., and have some understanding of the cultural issues at play here in regard to the issue and if you do not, and do not have a degree in cultural anthropology, I will assume you are speaking from outraged ignorance or merely looking to rip the mother of a missing child to shreds, from some motive best known to yourself.
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You might have kinfolk that procreated at 14 or 15. You might think it is okay for kin to have an affair with an inlaw, stepsibling, cousin, etc.

Some folks just have standards. don’t seem all that strange in my circles.

What age you consider it okay to hook up with your relatives. Butterbean is pushing 5. He might see his stepsissy as a full sissy now just like Marie says. when he gets to be 15, is it okay to have conjugal visits to her bedrooom next door like your granny and pawpaw done? contrary to your deep south warbles, incest is not best!

I have to agree with you all on the point that Misty or Ron may not have been involved, misty may have really been sleeping deep from the pills and alcohol did she have a drug test the night of the disappearance? Hmm, but I believe they may have put her (Haleigh) in some type of harms way. Now I believe even if Misty can’t remember that night, I’m sure with their reckless living that alone can play a role, you know with them trafficking drugs and being addicts someone who they may have sold drugs to, or for may have known when to come back to steal Haleigh, so that’s why I blame them in some way. Now as far as the family’s place where they were living at the time of Haleighs disappearance, can play another role in her going missing, we know that in areas like were they reside and the poorest of neighborhoods are where child predators can go unnoticed until a crime happens or police decide to warn the community and mostly when they do warn the community its too late. Hmm wonder how many predators lived in that particular community at the time when Haleigh went missing??
—> back to work gang(:-)

GMTA! Well atleast i know your’s is a good mind.lol
but 100% agree with you!! I was shocked when he confronted her,that alone would have me me as nervous as a cat in a room full of rocker’s becauese i am easily intimadated by authority and men (why i’m single and stay that way after my hubby passed)i guess.lol but that’s the point he detected and she even told him,”I don’t know what you’re trying to get outta me,and ohhh my heart broke for her,it really did Treece!

So do I Treece,she is terrified and to get out she’d tell and now I kinda worry that what if she makes up something to tell because she has nothing too tell!!
She alway’s seem’s to be lying when she get’s to the part,I woke up…..I think she’s only hiding that she wasn’t home or something!

my girl cathy I’m proud of you keep up the good work. I’m also keeping hope alive for crystal that she cleans up her act for Jr’s sake that child has been through enough and this tragedy of his sister being gone. Can either make him a better man or have him turn out just like his father his future is in crystals hand, and his future is now.
shellyshelllost1 said,in February 9th, 2010 at 5:40 pm Ok ok I can admit I may be wrong I have never personally known a meth head but I have known a few crack heads who’s drug came before their children. Thanks for correcting me (:-)

Shelly,it wasn’t that i wanted to correct you,LoL ok,but i just knew from what i have seen and honestly,I am very happy that you don’t know! Don’t apologize for not knowingg,ya know? so that’s why I say she must know something!and she was the last to see her!

And Thank You Shelly!

my girl cathy I’m proud of you keep up the good work. I’m also keeping hope alive for crystal that she cleans up her act for Jr’s sake that child has been through enough and this tragedy of his sister being gone. Can either make him a better man or have him turn out just like his father his future is in crystals hand, and his future is now.

I totally agree there too,Why not just admit,yes I had problem’s,was young,no job,and I did get the letter’s (and other stuff she said she just simply didn’t get for some reason)
but I didn’t have it in me BUT i do now.I want to make it right and give my kid’s a chance for a descent life!
I’d respect her more than just saying,she didn’t get letter’s or she wasn’t told!

Pinkey, please don’t judge all whites based on the comments of one white loser just as I would not judge all blacks based on the comments of one black man or woman. It is ALL about the individual and the choices, actions and words of that individual. Personally I don’t care if you are pee green with purple polk-a-dots…..just don’t disrespect me or others and we’ll get along just fine.

Let’s all take a deep breath….realize WE are not the enemy here….and do NOT let this weasel named Ron cause strife amongst our little BNN family. I for one have seen a great deal of love here so let’s FEEL THE LOVE and be a United Front for Haleigh. I think Ron is going to get his while behind bars. I don’t see the other inmates taking kindly to his mouth and I hope they teach him a lesson he’ll never forget!

To whom it may concern!
After this no more post’s related from me on the subject but I agree!
Actually, I am more ashamed of my own race at times especially like this one than i ever could be at anyone!
if there is a different race? I really don’t think there is!!IMO
(for lack of a better description)

I stop thinking along with believing that one group of people can be responsible for a certain type of act. When the DC sniper was reviled to be a black man, remember that? Even I was guilty of saying it had to be a white man, or when the long island rail road shooting was done by a black man or when the oklahoma federal building was bombed. We were all shocked Timothy Mcveigh wasn’t some middle eastern religious fanatic. You see you can’t just go along generalizing people anymore based on color. That’s like saying all rapes, kidnappings and molestations are done by men. Its simply not true. That one track way of thinking will make us over look important details when we are trying to figure out these horrible times we need to get off the subject of race when it comes to crime because the bottom line is crime has nothing to do with color. Ignorance is also color blind as well. Obviously….

You or me JB!
My niece,who was 40 at the time,heard a poem a prisoner had sent in for her (The dj read it on the air over the radio and he’d written in prison for her)after her husband was killed at work,she said she heard the poem and wanted to meet him.so she did,A few month’s later she married him in prison…..spent thousand’s on an attorney to try to appeal his case and he was serving 48 yrs for murder during a drug deal gone bad,she sent his famiy money big time,went to the prison every visitation,had his name tattooed on her,other places pierced for him?,
was banned a few times for showing him the tattoo’s and piercings and this girl you would never have believed it in a million year’s how she sat home for him,waiting incase he called,so like you I do wonder how in the world these women can do that and the fact that she knew she’d never be able to be with him and grow old alone made me wonder but after my husband was actually murdered i certainly didn’t understand how she could marry a man who was capable of doing what was done to my husband!
I would be so curious to know who can explain how this happen’s!

Glad to see you back too!

I’m done commenting about Ron’s racist remarks…he is where he belongs….locked down 23 3/4 hours a day.

Actually,it took a year for this to happen??
Posted before i finished.hmmmm
IMO only…Have you read that CS failed a drug test?
Hmmm wonder why after she carried a child and used drug’s the child was not taken?And a daughter supposedly missing? and now fail’s after only just getting custody of her son back?
What kind of mother would NOT have learned a lesson by now??
If that don’t give you reason’s to change,then I am sorry, but you just ain’t trying!! And you sure as hell can’t care!And you sure as hell are UNFIT!

Actually,it took a year for this to happen??

I was born and raised that God created us all equal and that is how I have raise my family. This is how i was raised also.I dont like this thread. I am leaving this thread with Pinky too. Pinky i am right behind you.
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I came back in yesterday and thought I’d start posting again after my mistake the other night…to be honest i am ashamed of what happened that night and Ashamed that i misunderstood Adams when i should have known she’d never be mean just to be mean!
When I came in though I saw something that’s far worse than what i did…AnneInTN has been here every minute of everyday supporting Haleigh’s family and defending them when she felt it was right to do so! I know how hard it is too to pour your heart and soul into something and then have it shredded into bit’s!
But what some of you failed to realize is this woman (ANN)was here trying to help with R’s daughter because like all of us,It’s all she can do but she does it,fair and square!Ron should THANK ANN!!Did she ever once base her care on race.NEVER!I don’t even know Ann personally but i know that she has been the backbone and strength for many of us here and alway’s fair!
Who the hell cares about race,we are all the same race..HUMAN! I never once asked anybody’s race in here and certainly never CARED TO KNOW because it doesn’t affect a damn thing IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM….and she’s worked harder than anybody i knowwwwwww of on this case and then she Hears this racist comment from a guy who SHE WAS HELPING REGARDLESS OF WHAT OTHERS FELT….AND TO HELP HIM FIND HIS DAUGHTER BECAUSE HE CAN’T and this is the thanks she got!Looks like ronnie boy finally made a mistake and the sad part is it will not help him get to the truth or find his daughter because he will now have lost a huge majority of supporter’s…I suppose then if a chinese person could help find Haleigh he wouldn’t want her too?? Tell me the difference!
I had a problem similarly related When he said he did not want GA’s help!At that time though my view’s changed later but at the time I thought…OMG someone who want’s their child back would take anybody’s help!I WOULD NEVER EXCLUDE A PERSON IN THE SEARCH FOR MY CHILD AND HERE HE IS SAYING THESE THING’S TOO!

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WinterRose, I agree. Ugly is ugly and mean is mean. Period.

“alethea…I qualified what I said by saying times have changed since your grandparents got married, so I was certainly not passing judgment on your grandparents. Further, I acknowledged that Chad was not her blood relative, and when Marie took up with Crystal’s great uncle, who then became Crystal’s stepfather, that wasn’t incest either.

“As for my not holding Ron to 21st century standards re racism, that’s baloney. I don’t have to “like” Ron to believe he didn’t harm his daughter. Just like you don’t have to have a crush on Crystal to not believe she had anything to do with it.”

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Me, the only thing I recall referencing toward YOU was your idea about girls at 14 always being more mature than boys at 15. I asked my son what he thought about that. He said, no, that’s a myth, that girls want more mature things than boys their own age, but they really aren’t ready to handle them.

Things were flying so fast and furious last night I am not surprised if some people thought remarks were aimed at them when they weren’t. It started with a really vicious attack on Crystal, the mother of missing Haleigh, that no decent person, regardless of their opinions on this case, would tolerate. Fortunately, this person was “outed” by someone else.

You and most of the other people blogging here overnight are really excellent lovely people and I have no quarrel with such. It was just that one person I was having a problem with.

I’m not particularly worried about whether or not it’s true that girls are always more mature than boys their own age, unless it would turn out to be junk science and someone got a law passed using it, Or used a piece of junk science to convict someone in “the court of public opinion.”

I don’t really understand what you’ve been getting at about Crystal and Ron. Do you think she vamped him??? But this is why we have laws, and I know you agree with that. I think a lot of people would say, “A couple of kids, and we’re asking who seduced whom?” “Who got whom on to drugs?” (But that may be a much more valid question in this case.) If we look at CIRCUMSTANCIAL evidence, there *is* the issue of who has been in the vicinity of GBH and who wasn’t. And who has a PATTERN of many relationships with people much younger than himself?

Of course it may turn out that both Ron and Crystal had absolutely nothing to do with their daughter’s disappearance.

Just my opinion.

I thought about the small Cummings and Croslin children starting school and surely this nasty talk would be a very common part of their each sentence. The teachers couldn’t put up with this, I would think.

It dismayed me, too, that illicit sex and crime were just such casual matters to all the Sheffields, Cummings and Croslins. You would think that Hank Croslin, Sr. would have learned something from his experiences and have wanted better for his children. You would think that mom Lisa would have some kind of pride in her appearance and have teeth by now which Meth is unkind to. I think she possibly looked much like Misty in her youth. Hank, Sr. seemed to be quite sensible in his advice to Misty to tell the truth and chastised her for getting into drug trafficking. A good-looking man, he could have made more of himself so his lack of education, his poor choices and the paths he took are indeed a big shame. I have noticed that Ron and Misty have not been seen smoking for a long time in public(no doubt for the criticism that has been received) and possibly the feedback from their vile language will be changed also. I do not hear Teresa nor GGMa Sykes swearing in their interviews. They state they have always gone to church which has to be a big plus in that town.

Just my opinion.

LOL, so you know Bipolar brat AND the caller. That in and of itself was a great tip BGirIIL, I also se she’s very busy having the mods at RU delete her post and finally putting her MS on private, that wasn’t really bright to have it set any other way to begin with considering the scary crap I saw on it, now I see on twitter, she wants to follow beachbum and beatnichippie, LOLOLOL

Really~I read all her IM’s with JVDS and now she’s busy having all her post at RU deleted per some at SM keeping up with her, she is obvioulsy very obsessed ..she was friends with JVDS on her MS and her bf has a pic they took of him drunk on the webcam when they talked with him. She should take her meds for her bi-polar issues and focus on her kids.

Sorry, but after reading the tweets about her and going to her MS, she is a NUT! How many people befriend and send IM’s to Joran Van der Sloot. and Ron certainly needs no help in looking like a POS, he does that pretty dang well on his own.

Certainly R’s lifestyle - in fact what seems to be the generally accepted ( or tacitly accepted/ignored) lifestyle of many people in that community - put Haleigh in a much more vulnerable position than she might have been.

We still have to see if R is directly responsible or who is. As far as “learning” something from it, it doesn’t look like the “other side” did either - until possibly recently and they should be extremely grateful to have another opportunity to do so. Gosh knows there’s room for improvement in a lot of these peoples’ lives.

Anyway I keep reminding myself that plenty of good upstanding wonderful families in wonderful and loving homes have also lost their children. So being a “thug” doesn’t necessarily increase the guilt or lessen the pain. Not making excuses for him. Far from it.
But I can’t “blame” R yet for Haleigh’s disappearance without assigning some similar blame to others close to the children.

I still want to know what happened to Haleigh.

Dad: Drug user, Drug Dealer, Racist comments, alleged domestic violence and exhibiting behavoirs consistant with profile of abuder, previous record of arrests for drugs & violence, Had an underaged live-in GF at time of crime, had fought with said live-in 3 days prior to crime, allegations of physical abuse of underage GF due to claimed pregnancy, returned gf to home after being unfaithfull, Married gf 1 month after crime occured, divorced her 5 r 6 months later to improve his “image”, later caught still in her company & selling drugs

Mom: Drug User/Addicted. (Anyone who would risk loosing not only Jr but Chole as well after finally getting him in her custody by using still, is an ADDICT)Previous allegations of Domestic Violence from Father- previous DV victim. Does not know details in regard to the children, Bi-weekly involvement, allegations of visitation problems caused by Father & family members.

Paternal Grandmother: Sympathetic GMA, Sypathetic to Ron to a fault (Enabler) Chose new lover over son during his youth. Not really involved with the children (Haleigh & Jr) on a daily basis due to geographical constrants or other. Previous allogations against Paternal Grandfather due to domestic violence- Previous victim.

Paternal Great Grandmother: Sympathetic to ALL, even to point of Enabling. Very involved with Ron & Children. Threatened Misty with physical violence if she didn’t take “the tests”. Indications of turning a blind eye to domestic violence from Ron or even encouraging it.

Maternal Grandmother: Previous pot grower, blogger with a personal agenda, Somewhat involved with the children, bi weekly basis.
Also previous allegations of abuse/domestic violence againt Maternal Grandfather-Previous DV victim

Father’s Live-in/wife: Underage when crime occurred, drug user, drug dealer, previous abuse issues, duplicitous, complained about watching people’s children. Fight with Father days before crime occured & just returning on night of crime. Sexual relations with other male while gone for the 3 preceeding days. Inconsistant stements/Timeline to LE

Live-In’s Brother: Drug user, drug dealer, theif/burglar, alleged molester/incest, previous jail experience(s). Domestic Violence abuser-previous & current charges

Now, maybe if we try to forget the personal associations made or felt we can finally get to some truth.

I agree…very powerfull words….

Pinkey, please don’t judge all whites based on the comments of one white loser just as I would not judge all blacks based on the comments of one black man or woman. It is ALL about the individual and the choices, actions and words of that individual. Personally I don’t care if you are pee green with purple polk-a-dots…..just don’t disrespect me or others and we’ll get along just fine.

Let’s all take a deep breath….realize WE are not the enemy here….and do NOT let this weasel named Ron cause strife amongst our little BNN family. I for one have seen a great deal of love here so let’s FEEL THE LOVE and be a United Front for Haleigh. I think Ron is going to get his while behind bars. I don’t see the other inmates taking kindly to his mouth and I hope they teach him a lesson he’ll never forget!

EXTREMLY POWERFUL STATMENT.U R SO CORRECT,THIS BATTLE I DIDN’T HAVE TO FIGHT.THAT WORD CARRIES NO WEIGHT,HOWEVER IT MADE ME ANGRY COMMING FROM RON.YUCK

In reference to someone defending Ron, I’ve found that often times those of us who are still sticking with this case, after a year, is that we project onto Ron. Feelings we have for someone in our own lives, whether positive or negative (my case). I noticed myself doing this and I see the same from others, in one direction or another. You can sympathize with TN or whomever, without having to excuse or defend Ron’s behaviors. Same with any other player here. Crystal’s latest really struck home with me that THEY ALL are pretty messed up. If Haleigh comes home she is not comming how to Mayberry or Leave It TO Beaver. We need to accept this. Maybe this case has been about drawing awareness to these and other children’s plight. It is sooo different for some. I’ve been telling you guys for a year now….some people live in an entirely different world. There is not squeeky clean in their lives. EVERYONE is on something and afraid of LE. I for one have feared success mostly due to being uncomfortable around successfull people. If you come from this type of a childhood or even early adulthood you feel awkward and shy around successfull people. You fear authority and anyone associated with them. Straight people are scary and untrustworthy as they may turn you or a family member in to LE.

SO much going on in this case…..

He should know they do that whether he followed the Anthony case or not.. The do that all the time with Local stories of interist on local news and radio.. Hulk Hogan’s son had his jail house phone calls played on the Radio, TMZ and local news daily.

2/4/2010 and 2/5/2010