This just in from TJ Hart – Simon
Rumors have been swirling all week that hearing was held early this week regarding the custody status of Ronald Cummings Jr., the young brother of missing 6-year-old Satsuma girl Haleigh Cummings. He is the son of Ronald Cummings Sr, who is now in jail on drug trafficking charges, and Crystal Sheffield of Baker County.
According to the rumors, Crystal Sheffield allegedly failed a drug test yet the young boy remains with her in her Baker County home.
Since WSKY has had no luck in locating the records of this DCF hearing, I contacted Crystal’s mother Marie Griffis for confirmation.
I told Marie that there is talk that Butterbean remains at home, but that Crystal may have failed a drug test due to the ingestion of a Loritab pill.
Marie Griffis responded:
“I will say yes that is true, all the other stuff on the internet came from the ones scorned (that is all I will say about them). Please let everyone know that Crystal is doing what DCF wants her too, Crystal has needed these therapies that they are offering she has dealt with a lot losing a child a second time and maybe this time permanently and on top of that, everyone in the home will receive some type of therapy. Chad’s children have been affected by HaLeigh’s disappearance, they are all like brothers and sisters. Update on Butterbean he is doing great he is very happy and loving being with his Mommy he gets very upset when she has to be away from him from 3hrs to go to her classes but he understands why. We have explained everything to him that we feel he understands, he just simply wants to be with his Mommy.”
Thanks
Marie
VIGIL REMINDER
A reminder that vigil for missing Haleigh Cummings is taking place today, Saturday, February 6, 2010 set for 5:30 p.m. at Celebration Park, in Glen St. Mary.
Investigators believe someone abducted Haleigh from her Satsuma home during the early morning hours of Feb. 10, 2009.
Despite thousands of tips and countless hours of searching, there have been no signs of the girl.
One person who won’t be at Saturday’s vigil is Haleigh’s father, Ronald Cummings, who remains locked up after being arrested for selling illegal prescription painkillers.
His ex-wife, Misty Croslin, who was the last person to see Haleigh alive, also remains behind bars for the same charges.
While Croslin has come under suspicion, she maintains she had nothing to do with the little girl’s disappearance.
No one has been charged in the case.
TJ Hart
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Well, I’m very glad MG admitted it. Hope CS can stick with the therapy.
As far as Jr “wanting to be with his mommy,” well, Duh.
The poor child lost his sister, then his dad, and has probably not seen his gma or ggma since then either. So I expect he would be a little clingy with the only other person closest to him.
MG – please try to resist your desire for revenge (if that’s what it is). I hope you and R’s family can patch things up like civil adults and give Jr a good loving, healthy environment.
For the digestion of A loritan pill…just one…yeah right!!!!!!
Marie,
Both sides of the family needed in the beginning of Haleigh’s disappearance to bond together. All the mud-throwing by each side has only hampered progress in this case. It appears that Teresa seems ready to forgive and forget. Your side of the family should be grateful that Teresa and GGma S have taken the brunt of care of Junior since he was born and he looks healthy and well-cared for, you should be grateful that he was not stuck in some foster home where he could have been. Children are a lot of work and the Cummings should be given credit for wanting to take care of them. They could have easily said, “We just can’t do it.”
I sincerely hope CS can get her act together if only for this baby boy. It’s not likely. But with God’s help it is possible.
Marie, Crystal, Teresa, and Annette!
I truly pray that you can find it in your hearts to take advantage of the vigil this evening to publicly join together FOR HALEIGH!
Even if you can’t hug each other (although that would be great), please stand together for her.
i really hope for crystal’s children’s sake and for herself there is a way to get and stay clean.
i am praying for haleigh and all of her family!
I too wish Crystal well. I am glad she has support and is seeking the therapy she needs. I hope Jr. is okay. I do find it odd that neither Ron or Misty have even asked about him. kh
My thoughts and prayers are with the family. Sorry to hear that Crystal failed her drug test. I hope that she can stay clean. I am sure it is hard as heck but with God, family supports her she will stay clean. I know God will walk with her through all of this if she ask Him too. God doesnt turn away He is there you just got to ask and pray and if it is God’s way then it is meant to be if not then its not. I believe God give everyone so many of us chances after chances it is up to us to make the change and want the change. If it is important for you to change, set your mind to it and then you can succeed.
So far Teresa Nieves hasn’t visited Ron…but his GGM has. I’m wondering why this visit has not taken place.
Teresa was the one who spoke out on the NG show and numerous other prime time shows but she is a NO SHOW at the jail…as of yet.
She stood by him then but what’s happened since he’s been arrested?
Yes, Christine, that is REALLY interesting.
Alethea….I find it strange also…..Teresa was the only one who stood by him from day 1.
What has happened for her NOT to be visiting him now?
I still waiting anxiously for the transcripts to come out…so I can catch each and every word Ron and Misty utter….the video tapes didn’t catch it all.
Also Donna Brocks tape will be of interest….too.
teresa has visited ron in flagler.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqrKzDZUwow&feature=player_embedded
Crystal needs to be sent a serious message: Take your pick, your children or the drugs. There are plenty of people (myself included) would love to hold that little sweetheart close and love him like theres no tommorrow. Straighten up and fly right crystal. Quit playing America for the fool. “ONE” loritab today, back on the crack pipe tommorrow. Don’t you care? Haven’t your little ones suffered enough? Get your selfish head outa’ your a$% and put those babys first, or step the hell outa’ the way and let someone who is willing to provide the love and nurture little butterbean needs and deserves. Social Services needs to start firing workers. The courts down there need to start investigating and revamping the entire social srvices in this county, and all countys in florida who allow this bullcrap to continue. SHE FLUNKED HER DRUG TEST!!! Does something horrible have to happen again before this is taken seriously? She’s not trying! If she was, she would be clean. END OF STORY> I have no more sympathy for these idiots whos only concern is to get high and make babies that they can’t afford. Sorry Crystal, but you haven’t won yet… I hope the judge sends Jr back to gsykes and slaps your ass in court ordered treatment until you figure it out. Stop treating the general public (us) like we don’t matter, cuz’ I’m telling you sweety, I’m ready to file a complaint with every office that will listen…from putnam county social services all the way to the damn white house, if thats what it takes!!! I was really starting to think you were a changed mother. END- Sorry folks, but I can’t stand by while this woman takes advantage of my good nature, and the faith I had entrusted her. OH yeh, Marie GRiffis, show alittle intellegence, your daughter flunked. You act like its no big deal. Is she takin’ the kids out for a car ride down “loritab avenue today”? Man, I’m PIssed.
Harry said,in February 6th, 2010 at 11:14 am I wish I had the money to bail Misty out. She is a hot looking chick!
xxxxx go away, your an idiot.
WELL SAID METHINKS……..I totally agree with every word you said.
And to Harry…..ARE YOU NUTS? I’ll answer that one…….YES YOU ARE!!!
Teresa might not have visited him at the jail because I think she has had it. I am sure she loves her son but I think her first concern is Haleigh. (as it should be) She probably does not understand why Ron got involved with Misty and drugs.She is the one I think who has the most sense of the whole family.I am so anxious to find out about Donna Brock hope the tapes will be relesed soon.
How on earth do we have enough information to judge whether or not Crystal is or is not taking steps to get free of the addiction? And you act like it’s a matter of will-power, which I am informed that IF it is Lortabs, it is NOT. This is a high-profile case and I am sure DCF is following procedure. Looks to me like from what I’ve seen lately they have improved their procedures. Always a good idea to mind one’s own business, anyway. This is a country of laws, not mob rule. And people who attempt to use the internet to sway public opinion may find that public opinion can turn on a dime. In my opinion.
kbrooks, Yes I agree that God and alot of praying can certainly make the road somewhat less rocky, but I’m sorry to say God can’t do it for you, and yes, its wonderful if you have the support of a loving family, but alas…theres a huge difference between supporting a family member and enabling a family member and I can say without queston that MG is enabling her daughter to use. Big deal so she was honest about it and didn’t lie…how could she? the tests are self explainetory (Spell check) Did she honestly think the world wouldn’t find out? One could say…IT’S NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS ! but guess what? I plan to make it my business. social services isn’t too interested in making it their business, so for the sake of little butterbean, I sure as hell will! If someone had made haleighs home life their business, it’s quite possible she would still be here, going to school, playing with her brother, playing barbies with her little girlfriends and spending time with her grammas. The time has come to quit butting out, and hold social services accountable. thanks for letting me vent as I’m quite ready to throw my computer through the window in a fit of rage! GROW UP CRYSTAL Maybe marie griffis should join her daughter at a few NA meetings. I’m no fool, I walk through life everyday wearing the shoes of a recovering addict, had my mother shut her blind eyes to my behavior…My children may have been in the custody of foster parents, instead she made me look at it for what it was.
Thanks TJ.. I am glad you cleared all this up for everyone. Crystal I pray for you and pray you get your life in order before you lose your other to kids.
hello alethea,
“This is a country of laws, not mob rule. And people who attempt to use the internet to sway public opinion may find that public opinion can turn on a dime. In my opinion.”
excellent point and perfectly put!
i understand people want what is best for r. jr., but, we bloggers don’t know what is true and what isn’t. this is just people’s opinions here. .and as you say, some have been using the internet to influence the public. .and even if we do believe we know part or the whole truth, we are not experts in this situation.
and i find it nervy that some think they can tell the families how they must act. i understand encouraging people, and trying to support them, but, telling them how they have to be with each other is wrong.
they need time to work everything out for themselves. and the best chance of that is the public keeping their noses out of it. maybe since dcf is able to give all of crystal’s family therapy, maybe when the time is right they might help with crystal and teresa working things out if that is what is best for junior.
about teresa visiting ron. i believe annette said 1/2 hour twice a week. so maybe if they both can drive themselves, they will alternate visits to have a whole 1/2 ea when they go. and teresa saw him last week in flagler.
i believe normally they would only get a hour every other week. (wow, that really is tough!)
i don’t remember what it is in st.johns.
MsP, I totally agree. Crystal need encouragement right now not put downs and snipes from bloggers who are friends or relatives who are mad. Those same relatives need to channel that at the real problem which is Ron.jmo
Addition is a disease Crystal must heal. it effects just about every family in America. as long as she is trying to take steps to heal herself then she should keep jr. i am sure she is being closely monitored.jr. does not need to be in foster care that is a nightmare! he has been through enough!
Thanks TJ for the accurate reporting………
I don’t believe any addict wants to be addicted. But that seems what Crystal is. Anything to get high. YES what she has endured this past year no parent should have to. But she still has 2 children to care for. STRAIGTEN up already!
Does Crystal live with her mom & step dad? Or is she alone with those 2 kids??
Man, I hate when that happens. I had no right to explode all over this blog. To Marie Griffis: I apologize to you if you are reading, its not your fault. If Crystal had a slip, (rehad word) then if she can, she needs to simply pick herself up, brush herself off and start over. It’s probably going to be the hardest thing for her,given all the stress she is under. The key is honesty. The motive is the wellbeing of Jr and Chloe, and herself…in that order for now. It’s hard to admit when your control that you had (or thought you had) isn’t there when you call on it. I’m sorry that I’m so brutal, but lying and cheating and trying like hell to find a way to have both loves…the love for your children and the love you have for the drug. There is no fine line. If I had a dime for every time I tried to weave the two loves so I could have both, but alas, it just doesn’t work. I hope you keep trying to stay sober, as it’s the only way to love your children in the way they deserve. You will never convince me that you were only dirty from one loritab, hell girl, theres no buzz one one, you know that, I know that, but luckily thats no longer important. Start fresh, do over, begin again…and again , and again if you have to. Don’t stop until you get it right. Do it for your babies. Think of how proud Haleigh will be WHEN she comes home. Stand tall sister…you know if it get’s too hard to handle, you have alot of experienced grammas standing by…use them,thats why God gave us grammas…to wear mamas shoes when mama just isn’t strong enough…they would gladly take care of your babies while you go help yourself win one of the hardest battles known to man. sorry, I’m done. sending prayers and care your way…please don’t abuse it.
I believe they have taken the first big step and that is admitting the problem. Then telling that they are getting help from dcf. MG did not have to make the statement no one would know what was true or false. She has told the truth, now lets not punish someone for being truthful. I believe Crystal will get through this because she has to and she knows everyone will be watching. jmo
Were’nt they watching before?
This is so sad to leave a child in a house where they know there is drug use. Do we have to hear of another death of a child or neglect or abuse.
If these people have not learned by now I doubt they ever will.
Stop the abuse and murder of the children in the U.S.
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/16/stop-the-abuse-and-murder-of-the-children-in-the-us
I doubt it since she was not the custodial parent of Junior. Remember her other child has no custody issues. DCF can only do what is legal, they cant go around drug testing people on hearsay. jmo
That is also why they did not know of Rons drug problems too. jmo
Ron was working with heavey equipent, they are supposed to drug test them randomly, so why was this not done with Ron. My son get tested on every job, it is my understanding this is supposed to be done for safty issues. How was Ron not testing dirty?
Christine said,
in February 6th, 2010 at 11:36 am
So far Teresa Nieves hasn’t visited Ron…but his GGM has. I’m wondering why this visit has not taken place.
Teresa was the one who spoke out on the NG show and numerous other prime time shows but she is a NO SHOW at the jail…as of yet.
She stood by him then but what’s happened since he’s been arrested?
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that’s not true at all.
As far as I’m concerned, given all the drug issues with the parents and the safety issues with the children, I think, and I’m surprized they haven’t, DCF should have placed all three of these children under a chips petition. they should be granted a gardiem ad lightem and then step back and let them prove to the court that they are able to parent. With this, drug testing is random and manditory. It tends to separate the ones that are seriously trying, from the ones that are laughing at the system thats set up to protect the children. If they flunk three drug tests in a row, stop all welfare payments exept vouchers for rent/food etc… no more funding the habit with state monies, if they continue to flunk…the children belong in out of home placement. One might say, “Jr needs his mother” thats true, but when his safety is at risk…whats really better in the long run?
tobias said,in February 6th, 2010 at 12:44 pm MsP, I totally agree. Crystal need encouragement right now not put downs and snipes from bloggers who are friends or relatives who are mad. Those same relatives need to channel that at the real problem which is Ron.jmo
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Well, that’s a fair, well-balanced view. NOT!
Like a drug addicted mom is not a “real problem?”
The PROBLEM (IMO), is WE should NOT be taking sides in this and we SHOULD be praying for both families for the sake of the children: Haleigh, Jr, and Chloe. At least that’s what I’d like to see.
So if you want the Crystal bashing to stop, let’s stop ALL the bashing, please?
BOLDONE3 said,
in February 6th, 2010 at 12:53 pm
Thanks TJ for the accurate reporting………
I don’t believe any addict wants to be addicted. But that seems what Crystal is. Anything to get high. YES what she has endured this past year no parent should have to. But she still has 2 children to care for. STRAIGTEN up already!
Does Crystal live with her mom & step dad? Or is she alone with those 2 kids??
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She lives on Bruce Griffis’s property in a small mobile home that is just a hop,skip, and jump away from his mobile home.
What was she enduring when she couldn’t stop the drugs when she was pregnant with Chloe? Remember, Chloe was born with drugs in her system yet they allowed her to take that baby home too
Good question Pat and I am sure PDM Bridge will be asking certain people the same thing and who knows there may be some jobs opening up soon in the managerial positions.lol jmo
methinks said,in February 6th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
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KUDOS methinks
Methinks, Jr has a GAL for which I am glad.
thxs Vaquera
Who is Bruce?? Her mother’s husband?? Crystal alone with the kids??
I don’t think its proper to bash anyone in this sad case, however, I have 0 tolerance for parents that have children in the home and are using. If this was the first time for her, I could cut her slack, but it isn’t.
Look what happened to Haleigh because of the environment she was in. History tends to repeat itself. To pacify a drug user, is called an “enabler”.
VERY WELL SAID METHINKS. I agree with every word you posted. The entire family, both sides, need to watch out for these children. It is blatantly obvious the court system and DCFS cannot see the potential danger Butterbean and Chloe are in. What else has to happen in the lives of these folks before they wake up and get off the drugs? Poor little HaLeigh, Butterbean and Chloe. God bless them.
Bruce is Marie’s husband. I guess she is alone when Marie is driving the bus, if she still does that.
thxs Vaquera….can’t help but worry if Crystal is being supervised properly with the 2 kids she is in charge of.
I know she has a large family, hopefully, they see each other daily and keep their eye on Crystal & the kids.
Yes, iowamom, God bless Haleigh, Butterbean and Chloe.
And I’ll go as far as praying for their parents and grandparents as well who put themselves in their current situations.
I hope Crystal and her family thank God they are not in Ron’s shoes (cell) because only by the grace of God they are not. (They had to obtain their drugs somehow)
So I’m hoping the families are at least decent to each other and we bloggers try to be to both families too. For the sake of the children if nothing else. And for the sake of turning our attention to the most important issue which is “where is Haleigh?”
Tonight is the first of 2 vigils for the one year anniversary of Haleigh being taken. Please help light many candles for Haleigh.
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=HAMC
what is Loritab?
Re: Methinks 2-6 12.03 p.m. 1:36 p.m.
Totally agree about Crystal. Having worked with psychiatrists for years, seeing many on some sort of altering stuff, I knew immediately when Crystal appeared on NG that she was “in another world.” She had a very blank stare, Marie had to answer questions for her and she appeared extremely lethargic and needing a good hosedown with some high powered housecleaning solution.
IMO, she probably has been affected with such since before age 14 when big momma ran a crackhouse. Possibly that’s how she met Ron when he came for such. Now we have Chloe born with substances in her system. Withdrawal for babies makes them very irritable and they are constantly crying and very hard to care for, just a nightmare. I cannot understand DFC giving Chloe back to that family. Also, we have Crystal having seizures while driving at least twice with small children in the car. Many times seizures are caused either by drugs or someone trying to kick the habit. How can DCFS give Jr. to her? Sorry, I would not leave my dog there. Is someone able to monitor her constantly, live there with her and whoever is her current lover? People need to understand while it is extremely sad, drugs are often much more powerful than anything else in the world and the recidvism rate of recovery is very very low, used to be about 2%, not sure what it is now. IMO, Jr. should have been left with GGMa Sykes, he has had enough heartache in his young life and he seemed, at least, well-cared for and well-fed and happy where he was. IMO, Teresa is very responsible, articulate and seriously upset about Haleigh which I do not see in MG and Crystal. Crystal lost me when she tried to constantly wipe away some non-existent tears and couldn’t conjure up even one tear. Neither of these women seemed upset at all about Haleigh at all, that I could see. Therapy and prayers are great helps but there are so many people who just can’t get that terrible monkey off their backs. Some of them are very nice people too and seriously would like to be cured.
Lortabs are hydrocodone with acetaminophen in them.
Here we go again… Yes, Crystal should be getting her act together, perhaps she should have HAD it together BEFORE she got her son, I don’t know!!! I am atleast grateful that she is being tested, obvious DCF/Courts are laying some rules/guidelines for custody. I wish her the best.
Please don’t confuse my statements for “bashing” I say what I think and everything I have said was said with facts to back it up. My son is a prime example of allowing the system to help, it seems like meddling but when children are involved, it has to be this way. In my sons situation, his ex was into meth heavily as was her boyfriend, he was beating on her in front of my grandchildren, and the police were at her home constantly to remove him. He was pulled out from under the crib by police, he was found and tased hiding in the closet with his hand covering her airway to hold cops at bay…the kids were’nt getting fed properly, if at all many times. She would not let my son near the kids….for fear he would intervene yet when she was in trouble, she would call him to come rescue her. He would until one day, he snuck up to her apartment to spy on his children and found his two year old sitting in the hallway sucking on a ketchup bottle. he was wearing a flithy messy diaper, and he was crying cuz’ he was locked out. (the door closed behind him). When Andy entered the apartment, she and her “man” were crashed on the bed after a three day run with no sleep. Andy called me, and I flew over there. We really had to make a difficult decision…call 911 or not. We were not the best roll models either if you know what I mean. When the police arrived, the kids were cleaned up and put down for their naps. She wouldn’t allow us to bring them home, out of spite and spite alone. To make a long story shorter, LE called DCF and the shit hit the fan! That was the beginning of a long painful, yet wonderful journey. She was given chance after chance to keep the kids with her but the boyfriend had to go…DCF, and the courts order. Nothing changed, she even moved away and was missing for quite awhile until Andy notified them and made them find his kids. When found, Andy began fighting for custody. The catch? no drugs. He checked into rehab the following day and remained there for 60 days. I wanted so badly to bring the kids home with me during this time but she refused. After two long years of fighting in court and her not abiding by the rules set down by DCF Andy finally won custody of his beautiful babies. He moved in with me to watch my home while I took my turn at rehab. The boy’s mother has never humored the idea…even stating to the judge that she was not an addict, while being sentenced for dui and 5th degree possession of a meth pipe. How sad for her, she missed out on so much of their young lives. I guess I have very little sympathy for her due to the fact that on so many occasions, I held and rocked those children through missing their mother, crying for her and no show visits. Her loss I guess. There really isn’t a point to my story except to say…The children don’t know whats best for them, they rely on the grownups, so when it sounds like I’m bashing people, or being unsympathetic or harsh, its because I have seen the movie and read the book. I may be brutal with my words at times but I know what works and what doesn’t. My grandson’s mother is now starting to see things differently, and wants more parenting time…she petitioned the court two weeks ago. One week ago, she was violated on her prrobation. Sympathy? I don’t think so…
methinks, I feel like you do how many chances do these people need to get there life straight. These are defensless children we are talkig about. Where is there choice of a parent being free from drugs. We have seen so many case of abuse from drug abusers. It is time to stand up for the children and DCF to do there job before we loose more. I ask you al how many children do we half to loose from parnets on drugs to support the children, they are the future of our world. They can not protect them self they need our help before it is to late.
methinks said,in February 6th, 2010 at 2:31 pm
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OH Man, methinks, I sure am liking your posts.
My “here we go again” was not directed at you MeThinks… it was about another circus raising it’s tent in town. As I always say, I applaud anyone that has the courage/sense/drive to rise up and keep… keeping on!!!
****WHERE ARE THE REST OF THE TAPES****
Me thinks I am glad you got your son and yourself into rehab and that you are all doing well. Lets hope this will happen for Crystal and Junior and Chloe. jmo
methinks: My gosh, you didn’t just read the book or see the movie! You lived it! You are still living it! You and your son are really strong people to have made the choices you did to take the much more difficult road. Your grandchildren are really blessed.
BTW, I was not referring to any of your posts as bashing earlier. I was referring to the kind of post that basically says: “one side is fine, great, give them a break; everything is the other side’s fault.” With what we know now my only reaction to that kind of thing is to ask if we’re all on the same planet. LOL!
Everyone seems to not care about the Croslin kids
Are they going to get the help they need also?
Has everyone forgotten that they are little too? Lindsy even said in the video that Dustin is a mess over all this. Has anyone cared to find out what if anything is being done to help them? jmo
Tobias, I saw some comments (maybe they were yours) about hoping that Lindsey sees the light and gets herself and the children away from there and away from T and everyone. I hope so too.
At the moment, it looks like Chelsea is the only in-law with brains.
I feel that Lindsy wants the old Tommy back, the one that isnt taking drugs and hopes that jail will get him into a treatment program.
She is in my opinion willing to wait it out.
But right now she needs to get those kids in therapy in my opinion.
Tobias, I think the reason most of us don’t comment much on the Croslins children, is because they have not been at the “center” of this case. Yes, I care about their well-being. I actually would probably be willing to bet that Timmy/Chelsea have decided that their kids will NOT have his childhood.
Thanks AnneInTn,beautifulcent, I guess I got alittle bit carried away but I’ve been harboring some emotions and anger…anger for who? which one ? or all of them. and then when TJ said that Crystal flunked a drug test I guess I just lost it. Why did they even waste time testing her if there aren’t any consequences? talk about tempting the jewel thief with diamonds. Might as well, pat her on the back and say “it’s okay, we understand” “You didn’t mean to wreck the car with the younuns in it”. Maybe next time she will test positive for oxicotin, or crack. Maybe next time they will say “If only we had put the kids elsewhere until she completed a treatment program…if only”. Gosh, I hope and pray that everything turns out for these people, and I truly don’t wish them any bad..in fact I hope they can all come away from this healthy and on the road to recovery. I hope Haleigh can be there to reap the bennies as well. My heart is in the right place, it’s my attitude and my patience that are being tested. I don’t do angry very well. I’m no good at it, so when I feel it, it is rather toxic…sending all my good intentions right out the window. If i get the feeling that someone is taking advantage of my good nature, or treating me as though I’m “tupid”, well lets just say, I can’t control the aftermath without a sounding board…and a hlf pack of cigarettes. ( another vice with a death grip on my airpipe, literally.) anyway, thats it, please don’t take me for unsympathetic, nor a fool. peace Man…what has gotten into me? cent…I think it’s all your blogs that allow for voicing it all, even if it hurts for awhile. I really enjoy reading your stuff.
Methinks,
Girl we are all ready to blow up on this case. Its crazy has heck for what these children are going through and one is still missing and it still seems like no one is talking unless they are trying to save their butts from spending time in prison. Thats what all these clowns need.
I seemed to walk away from these blogs cause it does get so crazy I watch the news 24/7 and I know they will have breaking news for anything on anyone.
I am still praying for Crystal that she gets her life back on track she slipped up once now I hope it doesnt happen again if it does then the children needs to removed from the home I hate saying that but I am looking out for the children.
I know God cant make you change its all up to the person who wants to make the change but will help you through it if you pray and ask for the help.
I know this from my own experiences I loss a child seven years ago I had no one not my ex husband to help me I had God I asked him to help me through the loss I finally got my peace I still hurt at times but not as bad though. Now I run a support group helping other parents with their losses. God still helps me in every day life challenges I have gone through and I have gone through alot. Its up to the person who wants the change or help as well.
Prayers are off in the air.
Kateena
According to MG, “everyone in the home” (her home) will be receiving “some type of therapy” courtesy of DCFS. Maybe DCFS will offer same/similar to Lindsey and to her children? I doubt it.
tobias said,
in February 6th, 2010 at 3:02 pm
Everyone seems to not care about the Croslin kids
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I don’t think that is true at all but the article is about Crystal.
Lindsy is moving to Palm Coast where I hope she has a good support system. DCF has been involved for a while and I hope they are keeping tabs on them.
Linsdy got her nursing license, she can get a good job anywhere so maybe this will be a fresh start for her and she can forget about Tommy and worry about herself and her kids so there is not another generation of messed up Croslin children
I saw video of Teresa Neves leaving the jail and her interview is all over the internet, so she did she her son in jail.
Bunch of idiots.
I have taken note of the Croslin kids, especially, the one who visited his Dad in jail. He sat there listening to all that talk about how to get around the law, outsmart the law, how the law was trying to trick Tommy. I thought, here goes another one who will be in prison in 15 yrs or less. It was sad.
TN has suffered such losses, and it is obvious, she is falling apart. I doubt she is able to visit Ron for a little while. Ron’s going to prison, and their losing Jr. was too much for anyone to take. It is so obvious how much she loves her family. I feel sorry for her.
MeThinks, it’s not just you, we’re all anxious and upset, and we all get carried away at some point. It’s hard to sit watch an injustice, and that injustice is done to a child. I do not think you’re unsympathetic, I would say that perhaps your empathy is what is driving at the moment.
***I AM NOT A THERAPIST OR DOCTOR… SO YOU CAN NOT HOLD ME LIABLE FOR THESE STATEMENTS***
Wonder where that video of TN and Rons visit is? Maybe it will come soon? jmo
This woman Marie Griffis is really nutso if she really thinks that the grandmas put all the info about her daughter on the internet.
just takes a brain to see this woman can’t seem to stay clean.
tobias said,in February 6th, 2010 at 3:02 pm Everyone seems to not care about the Croslin kids
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We all here care about the Croslins kids tobias. We care about ALL kids.
I think we will all get the true nature of the three in jail when we see the videos and audio from the UC. Those tapes will show how they were acting as drug dealers. imo
kbrooks, I am so sorry for your loss. I too put alot of my problems in the lap of Jesus. There are times when I wonder why I bother, as it feels like he’s not listening anyway…and then there are times when it is the only thing that keeps me from exploding like a big fat tick. ( I learned that humor between two slices of serious makes a great sandwich from cent.) I too hope that the croslin children are getting some much needed attention. It seems that they probably won’t get any new toys or something nice out of dads tax check since there won’t be any left when sis and bro get done with it. I think that the reason they seem left out of the picture is because they’re not acting out…yet. Tobias said that they are kind of forgotten about, it’s true and as they say, “the squeeky wheel gets the grease”. so sad.
UPDATE:
http://www.palatkadailynews.com/articles/2010/02/06/news/news01.txt
Palatka Daily News Palatka, Fl
2-6-10
“1 year later: Cops aim to find Haleigh”
Also none of them knew they were being taped like they do now. And they werent in withdrawls. I wonder if we will get to see those ?
I can NOT believe that they didn’t know that they were being taped! They all have been around the block once or twice… in some cases, a lot more than that. You’re warned before you enter the jail, that you can/will be taped… as well as the phone calls.
Man tobias, I hope we get to see them..I don’t think I could take another hold- out from LE. What I am refering to is the casey anthonys reaction to the discovery tape. We just gotta see these! It just “aaaaaaaain’t” fair,
I personally believe that at that moment, they chose not to care as much about being taped, because reality had set in, and all they could think of was wanting OUT!! Who could blame them, tho?
BAcent The tapes I am talking about probably wont come out until they go to trial. The ones of the drug deals. I think those are going to open alot of insight into who these people really are. imo
Being honest… Hell, I would beat everyone to the punch… and sing!! Like someone was plucking the last of my “feathers” with tweezer, that weren’t sterilized.
Tobias, I get cha now… I thought we were still on the phone/visiting stuff.
I think they are waiting for the right deal to come down the pike. And who knows maybe the one who would like to sing may get into more trouble because they talk. jmo
Maybe if a lawyer would help Tommy like Misty and Ron. It seems that Tommy doesnt trust the public defender? jmo
Could be… but lets not forget Sammy “the bull” Gravano. I know this is totally different, but it just shows that some can admit to terrible things and still broker a “sweet deal”, as long as they cooperate.
I wonder how peed off Tommy would get if they bailed Misty. Maybe enough to start talking if he does know something? He did sound mad that he has no bond and Misty does. jmo
On the tapes, Tommy states to Timmy that he’s going to pissed if Misty gets out and he doesn’t. To me, I caught some very bitter tones when he mentioned Misty. I think he blames her and Ron.
They need to play them off one another. Did you notice that Timmy doesnt repeat what one says to the other. Tommy doesnt know what Misty is saying to Timmy and vice verse?
I almost got the impression that ron’s call about the boxers was a show for NGs audience in that he knew he was being taped. I also thought that his call seemed so hurried…like he was controling the conversation because he didn’t want gsykes to say anything that he might have to clean up behind. That call misty made saying she was going to go to prison but it’s her fault, she has to learn a lesson etc I’m gonna get my ged, learn to read etc was because she knew she was on tape and wanted sympathy from anyone especially LE… she needed to sound like she had learned her lesson because she does’nt have the info the want to barter with…if that don’t work, well then WAH!!I’m so hungry..sob sob…I’m gonna send my family on tv and they will tell the world how bad I been treated…more wah etc …..dang it, there I go again, being mean spirited. I’m sorry…maybe I should take a time-out.
Yes, I think perhaps Timmy is the peace maker. Even when Misty complains about Tommy using up the minutes, Timmy, just reassures her that she’ll have some minutes. Not that I can blame Timmy, but he sure is a bit paranoid about media attention.
MeThinks, no time out needed.. I too felt Ron was controlling. And yes, Misty did herself NO favors by complaining about jail-house treatment. Tommy, well… in my opinion he is a weasel!!
I noticed that a long time ago and when Misty is asking for photos he says there are none of him to send and she says Chelsea has some. jmo
For the record… I’m not cutting anyone down, but did anyone else wonder who was going to read the letters/mail to Misty? I’m assuming she has “some” reading skills, but I thought she stated she was learning to read.
He wanted gone from the very beginning and never appears on any video or interview. Chelsea doesnt have a problem with it but he does. Kinda like Joe wanting gone from the get go. I think that is a trait they share only the others got stuck. Pa had a broke leg, Ma stole checks, Tommy couldnt leave cause Linsy was close to graduating,and the trouble just got worse. jmo
She can read and write. she signed the release for the poly for TM and she can use a computer too. jmo
Timmy speaks of earlier jail/prison in Virginia. I think he learned his lesson, and just wants better for them all. Which is sad when the child becomes the parent. He’s taken on Hank Sr. role.
Yes, I remember her consent form. Her parents need their asses kicked.
My grandfather had a 6 th grade education, he was a farmer. He was extremely smart. In common sense and in other things. Many people in those days had limited education and got by just fine. All I am saying is school doesnt make you smart and lack of an education does not make you stupid. jmo
True it doesn’t… same in my family, especially in the South. However, now a days you need to know something. As parents, who would want their off-spring going through life with the burden of not being able to LIVE a productive LIFE.
cent, Yer funny..so lets go kick some butt! actually, I couldn’t fight my way out of a wet paper sack…however, I am quite capable of reducing their self image to shit verbally.
Re: Tobias You are right, you can be smart without an education but in today’s world you are very limited on what you can do if you can’t read or write. Just take Misty’s dad. IMO, he was quite sensible in his talk with her but he evidently cannot work or do anything since he is illerate. It’s a shame as there are programs all over the US of A which are free which could teach him to read and write. He is a good-looking man, unlike many others in his family, and maybe the whole family would be all right if he had reading skills. There are labor jobs, of course that he could do but most of the time there are instructions on most any job – also illerates are very seriously hampered on driving as they cannot even read street signs. Maybe the drugs started as a coverup for his lack of knowledge.
MeThinks….. is outrageous… in a good down-to-earth way!!!
vaquera, hey, right back atcha’!!!
Jennalu, I agree!! Maybe the deeper the drugs, the more distance he felt from his failings.
cent tooooo…be or not to be…that is zee queston.
Please, MeThinks…. don’t get me started!
**’tis nobler in the mind to suffer**
the slings and arrows..?
well..thats as far as “methinks shakespere” can go on memory…at least on that silly play.
of outrageous fortunes…
***WHERE ARE THE TAPES, WHERE ARE THE TAPES***
methinks romeo is rather hot! thou shalt not stick a daggar into thy heart over the lil freak though.lol
tapeless in seattle
You guys will never in two million years believe who just called me on the frickin’ phone! LENEOARD PADILLA!!!!! honest to god.. I can’t BELIEVE it!! I had gone to his web site and said what I thought was the reason why he would bail misty out of jail…so I told him. whoa!! I am still in the state of shock.
methinks said,in February 6th, 2010 at 5:15 pm
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well me, tell us.lol
**************TELL US**********
@methinks,
How did LP get your phone number?
He now wants to bail out Baby Gabriel’s mother also I heard/read.
What’s up with that old man anyway?
MeThinks… I am patiently waiting as I get ready to consume my salad!!
I chatted with him for about ten- fifteen minutes. That blew me completely out of the water! I had responded to a queston? on his site…he wanted to know what people thought about him bailing her out. So I told him that I don’t think people would care as long as you get the infomation BEFORE letting her out, and this information led authorities to Haleigh or Haleighs remains. He laughed and said that he learned his lesson from casey anthony.LOL He told me that he is thinking that ron forgot to pay someone for some drugs and they came and took collateral. I asked him if he believed that misty remembered what happened that night, and he said absolutely, but she is too scared to talk. shoot I talked to him about what his “new” theory might be on casey anthony and he said it’s quite possible that cindy could get her off by saying they fought the night of the 15th and caylee got in the middle and bumped her head. He thinks cindy will take the fall for the little maggot.
Light a candle for Haleigh please.
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=HAMC
I had forgotten that I put my number down (something I would never do as a general rule online) but I figured it would be okay since its a legitamate(spellcheck) site. It said on his site that he doesn’t have time to answer return calls but he will make an effort to answer all emails.
I don’t see Cindy taking the fall for her daughter.
Me either, but who knows. Besides how many theorys has padilla had throughout that case since it started? might have a new one tommorrow
MeThinks, not that I truly know/knew your opinion of him… how do you feel about him now?
I take Lenny’s theories with a cup of salt. It’s long been passed around about Ron owing a drug debt. IF Ron owed a drug debt he would know who took Haleigh & not have kept quiet about it.
methinks said,
in February 6th, 2010 at 5:15 pm
You guys will never in two million years believe who just called me on the frickin’ phone! LENEOARD PADILLA!!!!! honest to god.. I can’t BELIEVE it!! I had gone to his web site and said what I thought was the reason why he would bail misty out of jail…so I told him. whoa!! I am still in the state of shock.
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someone on twitter said he was in AZ trying to bail out Gabriel’s mother.
and also OT baby Gabriel’s case has now become a homicide investigation.
I never really formed an opinion other than to think he was mighty patient to put up with NG and not slap the pi%# out of her. I guess he was just a sideshow to me before but now I’m alittle scared as to why he would call me. I mean I’m just an opinionated blogger with nothing to add except my typos. I think hes just polling the public to see how many would hate him if he did. I mean that wouldn’t be good for ratings for his reality show…right? idk
Cindy is more of a sociopath than her daughter and no way will she take the fall.
Not in a million years.
Hi everyone, so much to try and catch up on.
I do have to say that it’s nice coming on the board and seeing everyone getting along and having good conversation without all the bickering. You guys have a lot of compassion for these people.
methinks, I have enjoyed reading your posts. You make some great points. If Crystal would listen to you, she would learn a lot. Sometimes you need to throw in a little tough love. It’s hard for someone to try and give advise on something they don’t understand. You have obviously been through it and do understand. I think that’s what it takes. If you don’t understand addiction, you can’t give solid advise to someone else.
I can’t wait to see the tapes of the drug busts either. We will get to see how these people really are. Anyone know when they will be released?
bbl
Lets face it… look at how many people could not stand Octo Mom, Jon&Kate… people will watch anything that is talked about a lot in the media. He may care what others think of him, I don’t know! If he gets them out, he’ll get the ratings.
Oh wow, Padilla caring what others thing? Lol.
He must care if he’s calling bloggers.
I just don’t think bailing Misty out will serve any purpose. Yes, she’s scared, but I don’t think it will make her talk. It’s hard to believe she hasn’t told anything. I figured she would do whatever it took to get out of there. Could it really be that she doesn’t know anything? I just watched her mannerisms, and found it hard to believe she didn’t know anything. Just the defiance and attitude in itself made her look guilty.
This entire case is sad. It’s affected so many people. I feel so bad for the other children.
It’s hard to believe it’s been a year and it doesn’t look like they are any closer to an answer than they were from the beginning. It’s obvious they are trying to do whatever it takes to get answers.
I’m still catching up reading the posts, but must say I am not at all surprised to hear Crystal failed a drug test, and I doubt it was over one loritab.
I have never believed that Chad had a job (he strikes me as a lazy crackhead), though many people claim he does. If he does work, that means Crystal is caring for at least 4 young children by herself while they are at work.
The gall of her & Marie collecting money for Haleighbug and now claiming they want to help other families in the same siutation. They remind me more and more of the Anthony’s every day, and I can’t help but wonder if they are behind all this, and did it in the hopes of making money out of it.
I just went to Lps site to see if that queston? was up. Heres what it was: it was a comment/queston spot where you can ask a queston or make a comment. I said to him: “tell me if I have this right, If you bail misty out,you are you going to make her lead authorities to to haleigh BEFORE you let her out…is that correct? and then I said I hope you won’t even turn the keys in the cell until she tells LE what they need to go get haleigh. I put my email addy and my phone # and thats why he called. I shouldn’t have said it was to poll the public, cuz in hindsight I don’t think thats true. I guess he just chose to answer my queston on the phone instead of email.Truthfully, I didn’t even think he would do either. in fact I had forgotten that I did that until he called. I guess I better start paying better attention to what my fingers are doing late night, and where they are leading me and such. Man, thats nuts.
MeThinks, I think your comment left for LP is what most of us think/feel about Misty being bailed out!!
Anyone know if tonight’s vigil is being covered by media? If so, could you post a link?
Levi has a show tonite.
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/levipage/2010/02/07/bluckbuster-misty-croslin-speaks-from-jail
me @ 6:24pm – I’m a little concerned about that too and I’d like to know what organization (if any) is behind/helping with the vigil tonight. I really really pray that it is NOT the one started by that Michelle Bart (cue theme to “Jaws”) from the Caylee case because if it is then we KNOW it’s all about the money. IMO
stormgarner @ 5:54 pm – You said, “It’s obvious they are trying to do whatever it takes to get answers.”
Do you mean LE? If so, then I think it will take a really good defense attorney who will sit Misty down and explain the situation to her – what she’s facing on the drug charges – PLUS a SWEET deal from LE/state prosecutors for telling what she knows AND being able to prove it.
I’m worried for several reasons. First I am amazed that after a week in jail Misty did not seem to understand what trouble she’s in or that her bail was nearly a million dollars. Is anyone talking to her??
And second, a defense attorney might think he can get her off the drug charges or get a lighter sentence if he goes for “entrapment” or “first offences” (as an adult) or other ways to fight those charges.
So if she or her attorney think they have a good chance to fight the drug charges then it will be harder for LE to make a deal for info (especially if Misty is responsible or an accessory or whatever).
But surely, the state is smart enough to be able to come up with some kind of deal to offer that would be worth her while. And if that doesn’t work, then she doesn’t know anything (IMO).
m2c
That line Marie used about wanting to help other families in the same situation, was practically word for word what the As say. From the first minute I saw the Amber Alert in this case, I wondered if someone may have done it to make some money out of it as they saw what the As were doing. When I see how quickly Marie was selling t-shirts and that they had a foundation in her memory just weeks after she went missing….I can’t help but be suspicious of them. Plus, why the heavy anti-Ron campaign, at a time when you would have thought their focus would be on finding Haleigh?
me, me too. Even back then at the beginning – at least when the HaleighBug Center etc was started – I was worried that that could be a motive. (still am. who knows?)
At least Crystal is trying to clean up. Look at Ron, the one who had custody. Geeeeeeeeez, he is the one thaat got Crystal started on drugs. What a creep. I would nt want my kids around Ron, TN or GMM.
Sally, we do not know if R got C started on drugs or not. C has had years to clean up her act. She was pregnant and did not find that sufficient motivation to clean up. She (and her mother) worked very hard WITH a free lawyer to get custody of Jr this past year and she did not clean up for that.
Sorry, but not every single thing can be blamed on R.
Crystal is the MOTHER of three children and should have better sense – should have had it long, long ago.
Sally said,in February 6th, 2010 at 7:09 pm At least Crystal is trying to clean up. Look at Ron, the one who had custody. Geeeeeeeeez, he is the one thaat got Crystal started on drugs. What a creep. I would nt want my kids around Ron, TN or GMM.
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Geeeeezz, She had to be willing.
Wasn’t C’s own mother in the drug trade? (am I remembering that correctly?)
She was 14 !
m2c♥ said,in February 6th, 2010 at 7:21 pm Wasn’t C’s own mother in the drug trade? (am I remembering that correctly?)
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Yes she was and so was C’s daddy.Hmm!!!!!!
Thanks AnneinTn for the update about the Levi Page show, tonight.
Tommy said that he was not going to get bail because some of his charges were not bondable. I expect to see the same thing happen with Misty. If they changed Tommy’s to non-bondable, they will, most likely change Misty’s too.
Sally said,in February 6th, 2010 at 7:09 pm At least Crystal is trying to clean up. Look at Ron, the one who had custody. Geeeeeeeeez, he is the one thaat got Crystal started on drugs. What a creep. I would nt want my kids around Ron, TN or GMM.
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Sally…I see no evidence that Crystal is trying to clean up, quite the opposite in fact.
LOL re Ron getting Crystal on drugs. In case you haven’t heard, Marie was running a drug house, with Crystal living in it, years before she met Ronald. You wanna blame someone, blame her mother.
me said,in February 6th, 2010 at 7:42 pm
LOL re Ron getting Crystal on drugs. In case you haven’t heard, Marie was running a drug house, with Crystal living in it, years before she met Ronald. You wanna blame someone, blame her mother
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I am so glad all this chit is coming out and no one is afraid to talk about it.She was running a underground drug house. All these kids didnt have a chance. They have learned this from their parents imo.One Has to set a example.
I sure do hope someone will come clean. Now Ron cant control anyone in jail. Misty isnt with him or around him either. These clowns needs to admitt and be responsibile for their actions that they have caused. They got busted hopefully they all do time for it all but I hope that once all comes out about Haleigh that someone will be responsibile for that has well and get what is coming to them. Did these clowns think that prison or jail will be heaven in there… You dont get to change your boxers, ect… Its good to see they are still in there.
As for the LP dude I dont understand that old man. He bails out Casey, didnt get no where with her. That became a zoo. When you make yourself look guilty you make your own self look that way. I just believe in my heart that Misty, Ronald and Tommy all look guilty. If I am wrong I am not scared to admitt it but the actions of all of them dont shock me at all. It is written on their faces. Thats just my thoughts on this. Its very sad situation for the children sake.
Sally said,
in February 6th, 2010 at 7:35 pm
She was 14 !
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she sure was 14 when Marie kicked her out and she went to live with her daddy and wife number 2.Marie was more worried about her new man, her ex’s uncle, than she was her own kids. Marty got custody of Marcus too. Marie needs to look at herself as to why Crystal is the way she is..
I have asked this before, but never got an answer. In one of the early interviews Marie talks about how she is currently raising a 10 year old….does anyone know who’s kid this is? Does that mean Crystal is looking after at least 5 children by herself in the daytime?
re: me’s last post. I have been of the opinion that Crystal was surely on drugs long before Ron (maybe caME to Marie’s crackhouse looking for dope imo). It would have been very hard for Crystal not to have tried it with it so available and besides she has always looked so very lethargic as if she had to get out of bed, she probably couldn’t walk two feet. I get very bad vibes with Crystal and can’t imagine DCFS letting her raise any children. All you have to do is to be zonked out with 2 small children around by themselves and something is bound to happen. And who knows if Chad is there (and is he sober?) or someone new of which we have heard.
Marie comes across as bitter, nasty and ungrateful in her statement. Insulting the grandmothers that loved and cared for Haleigh while her own daughter spent money that should have been spent on child support on her own drug habit, is disgusting.
In the comment section of TJ’s article he says that the Loritab wasn’t prescribed to Crystal, but was given to her by a “friend”. Poor Jr will probably soon be in foster care. 3 hours a day of classes…wonder what they are trying to teach her?
these people are all just living their lifestyle, brought up that way, born and breed, inbreed maybe but its normal to them. None of them know who took Haleigh..these billys let infiltrators (brock) and U.C. into their fold haven’t a clue..their too stupid to keep what happen to haleigh a secret..maybe someone abducted her to save her from this life..there is a theory that a retired law officer whos daughter died is raising her as his own.
Maybe we should investigate.I will do it if someone will help me. I’m not very puter smart cuz’ my cyber brain idn’t developed yet. Seriously, what can we do to find out how many children are in crystals care. I guess I can’t help but think that if she suffers seizures, this could be a safety issue for the children. especially if she is using. I’m not accusing her of anything, but we have reason to be suspicious if what her mother told TJ about flunking a drug screen is true. I do believe if she is taking narcodics, this could invite seizure activity depending on how much she ingests. I would be concerned if I were her social worker, doctor, or JRs gardiem ad lightem. The children remain at risk. This can’t be right. Does anyone know for sure if DCF is going to do anything? Do they know?…or care? Methinks—ya wanna’ take another time out? be nice,or else
I thought we all established that on all sides, there leaves a lot to be desired!!! Doesn’t make since to keep beating a dead
horse.
As most say here “Damn if you Do, Damn if you Don’t” when talking of what Ron does or does not Do CORRECTLY… apply that Crystal. She would be crucified whether she fully complies or not.
Do we know if Ron and Misty completed their “parenting course”?
And who was helping HaLeigh with her school/home work, by all accounts it couldn’t have been Ron ’cause of his work hours. And Lord help her if it had been Misty… we all know of her lacks.
So basically, what I am saying is… what can be said about one side, pretty much applies to the other side.
They all have failed those CHILDREN!
“me said,in February 6th, 2010 at 7:42 pm Sally said,in February 6th, 2010 at 7:09 pm At least Crystal is trying to clean up. Look at Ron, the one who had custody. Geeeeeeeeez, he is the one thaat got Crystal started on drugs. What a creep. I would nt want my kids around Ron, TN or GMM.
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“Sally…I see no evidence that Crystal is trying to clean up, quite the opposite in fact.
LOL re Ron getting Crystal on drugs. In case you haven’t heard, Marie was running a drug house, with Crystal living in it, years before she met Ronald. You wanna blame someone, blame her mother.”
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Do we know what drugs Crystal is supposed to be addicted to? If it’s Lortab, that’s an opiate, isn’t it? A prescription med? Now, please correct me if I’m mistaken, but I don’t recall seeing any mention of a connection of that side of the family with selling that type of drug, whereas, you have the “other side” sitting in jail for trafficking in same. Have I missed something?
Tobias-The video is on action news florida of TN coming out of the jail when she saw her son.
She drove all the way to Flagger county jail and said it was “worth” the long drive to see her son.
Also clear in the phone conversations they plan to visit him every chance they get.
I think that you may be going by the fact that Misty’s and Hanks visits are taped and sent out.
The Flagger and Putnam county jails do not give out the tapes of the visits. So, you are not going to see Ron on a video monitor talking to his mother. That does not mean she does not see him. I doubt she is going to go on the news and let us know after each visit.
However, her first visit was covered by the local news. She is visiting her son.
me, Would it be so bad in the long run if Jr had to be placed elsewhere until Crystal can receive the help she needs to get ahold of this monster? I would think if that happened, they would consider GSykes first. Jr would be okay there for awhile (28 days) He wouldn’t be with strangers and he wouldn’t be exposed to that unkidfriendly atmosphere. Kids are very resiliant. He’s young and if given the opportunity, he may be able to, like Timmy, grow up and get the heck outa’ there fast. Okay, that wasn’t nice, but it gets my point across.
Oh, now it’s “kids are resilient.”
Ojsglove, You know sometimes your really out there. I guess I hadn’t heard about the FACT? that they are inbred as you state.
Althea @ 8:46, Nope… I don’t think you have missed anything. Crystal will forever pay for her crime of being a “bad mom”. In fact it looks as though she will have to bear the brunt of her mother’s own past drug dealing sins.
methinks…I would think Crystal would need a long stint in a residential rehab (at least 6-9 months and perhaps longer) with intensive follow up, including NA meetings 3 x a day etc. I would love to see Jr go to GGS during that process, but now that he’s with Crystal, I doubt they’d send him back to GGS, and sadly, I think the next step will be foster care.
Why yes, of course they are, doesn’t mean it’s okay to suject them to lifestyles where it has to kick in.
Update:
http://www.news4jax.com/news/22488167/detail.html News4Jax Jacksonville, Fl
2-6-10 8:18 p.m. EST
“Prayer Vigil Held for Haleigh Cummings”
I wonder if Marie will be asking for donations at this vigil? I am guessing yes.
I am not jumping to any conclusions yet about Timmy…while he seems more together than the rest of them, a few months ago, everyone was singing the praises of Tommy also. Poor guy grew up with Lisa & Hank and I can’t imagine anyone would come out of that situation “normal”.
me, I think your probably right, she would need longer, more intense treatment. I want to say this before I go any further, I am not anti-ron or anti-crystal. I hope crystal steps up and shines like a diamond. I think I can safely say that if I had just regained custody of my little boy, and I was under the sharp eye of DCF, I wouldn’t jeopardize it over one little loritab. You would think that she would seize this opportunity to make it work this time. This is her chance to show herself and her children what she can do. I want her to succeed. If she can shake this off and start over, she has my support.
I dont for one minute believe that putnam county jail does not video tape visits at the jail and under the sun shine laws those tapes are also allowed to be released. Fair treatment for all three in this case. And if thats what is going on I wonder why? jmo
It is hard for a person that is using drugs to shine. the best way I can explain it is they want to do the right thing but the want for using drugs overcomes there thought of right and wrong. They think I will only do it one time and that will satisfy me. A alcoholic is the say do it once and I can stop. It does not work that way they half to take it day by day. I wish everyone that is addicted would stop but that will never happen, I have personally seen lady that lost her kids, the State only gave her so many chances and tried placing the kids with family members. Well the kids were no better off there. Finally the State did take them and put them far away in a safe home. She lost them forever but the kids were safe. If that is what it take to give these young children a better life then so be it. They were no longer abused and have all finished school and gone on with there education to be better citizens then the inviroment of which they came from.
I also cant wait till tommorrow. Simon was going to research who Tallent was and I HAVE A FEW IDEAS WHO HE MAY BE. A pimp, a drug supplier or someone who can get Misty some money. She has asked two people when he will call or visit and the last visit with her mother she asks and haer mom says he wont but there is static on the tape so something was removed. hmmmm jmo
I would like to see the best thing for the kids not Crystal, Crystal has made her choice, now it is time for Crystal to stop. If she really loves the kids get help, but make sure the kids are safe.
Vaq, DCF did not say Cloe was drugged at birth. Please don’t spread lies.
And what was Misty doing with Rons Aunt Katrina right before they were arrested. That is the Tina that had her purse. I would love to know whats on that camera she is so worried about.She really wants her Mom to go get that purse. That is when she cusses and gets yelled at.Dont believe them when they say they were just buying cigs and Misty was just in the UC car they were planning another buy and sale.jmo
pat, I used the term “shine” for descriptive purposes only. I don’t know how many recovering addicts there are in her hometown, But if she chooses to conquer this, given the way the cards are stacked in her situation…Man wouldn’t she shine if she makes it?
Methinks,your comment,about Cyrstal failing yet another drug test-the one at the top of this page-Iagree with you.She is failing her drug test-an her mom-is oh well shes tring–Please-she had a yr,to get clean.An a Judge sends Butter bean,back inti a drug imviromen-drggie parent,an little Cloe doesnt stand a chance.Remove those children now-As methinks said-How long for the chilren go for a drive,down loritab,lane. Who supplied Crystal,did someone in the home have a script,an share the drug ,when it says on the bottle not to.Or was she crusing aroung,buying drugs- WHERE IS DCS??? rEMOVE THESE CHILDREN now? She had her chance,an she has the same spots!! same addiction. an got busted out!! Get those babies out of that home ,Crystals mom points fingers,but she seems to condone this,or is defending her daughters drug use/ same old bull chit!!!! What if she drops a pill,an one of these children injest it—danger-red flag-but Of course Ron,an Misty are the bad ones-Marie get a grip-your girls a drug addict,an put usage over her babies- 1 yah right-Hey did she get it/them from Rons dealer/or does she have her own.I hear it now-I lost Haliegh-so i have a right to get high!!!
Tobias……I asked earlier who “Tallent” was but got no reply.
I caught her asking for this person…and yes the tape was very staticy and would love to read the transcript when it comes out.
I’m glad Simon is researching this person but if it involves Misty (and she seems pretty desperate to reach him/her…you can but your bottom dollar that she feels he/she has bucks to spring her…..
This girl hasn’t gotten the message yet that she’s in for the long haul.
Did anyone catch Tommy saying he was brought down for a shot in his arm? What the heck was that about?
That tape was scratchy too….and I didn’t catch it all. I think he was talking to Timmy.
Christine, some of the content was removed because it may be used in court. Thats why I think he is someone that may be a red flag. jmo
methinks, I know how you meant it, no problem. I also meant if she really did get clean and become a good mom in my eyes she would shine. I wish the best for the kids sake especially. But it is hard for me to believe she will do this. It is hard for people that use drugs to give it up the same as alcoholics. I was raised with a alcoholic that finally gave it up. I just wish he had done that when I was young. I made sure my kids never seen this in my house. I wanted a better life for them.
tobias, maybe tallent is the person holding haleigh. Maybe she want to assure this person that nobody rolled over. I know, far fetched huh? But yeah, that camera seems to worry misty. also the phone, whats on this phone? maybe nothing. I think she wants the phone so bad cuz’ its new and theres still minutes on it. she probably still hasn’t realized, she don’t need it. I think she wants it for her mom and dad so she can call every time she can.
Um Tobias, I hadn’t thought about that. You are probably right. Thanks
I agree with Marie about all the junk stuff talked about Crystal coming from the ones scorned. You can always tell they’re behind the lies just by the way a couple posters go off topic on a thread to talk maliciously about Crystal.
Does anyone feel like the focus has been taken off of finding out what happened to Haleigh. And we are getting distracted by Crystals drug test? She is under the watchful eye of DCFand LE and they will handle the matter. We are not going to be around for the rest of his life so we need to let them handle it and move on to what happened to Haleigh. jmo
me said,in February 6th, 2010 at 9:03 pm I wonder if Marie will be asking for donations at this vigil? I am guessing yes.
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me, maybe this is why that maire didnt want the vigil with TN side of the family. Hmm
Jason…what lies are you talking about? The only lie I heard was someone spread a lie that Crystal had passed her recent drug test. The truth was, she failed. I am guessing Marie started that lie.
And, in case you haven’t read the KP complaint documents, it was Marie, Crystal & Kim that conducted a malicious campaign of gossip & lies, not TN or GGS.
Nice try.
Methinks…..I doubt Tallent is the person holding Haleigh….but he/she is involved with the drug end of things…maybe a contact she used to get the pills she wanted….and maybe a money man….whoever it is, she’ll be dumb enough to think that LE won’t be listening in even though they are warned that all visits are taped…even before they are allowed on the phone you can hear the warning.
She definitely isn’t thinking clearly and just wants out…..in a bad way.
Has anyone noticed how her parents pander to her….coddle her too? Almost as bad as Cindy & George…..and Misty’s fowl mouth is as bad as Casey’s too.
I think so, Tobias.
Christine said,
in February 6th, 2010 at 9:46 pm
Did anyone catch Tommy saying he was brought down for a shot in his arm? What the heck was that about?
That tape was scratchy too….and I didn’t catch it all. I think he was talking to Timmy.
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TB
Upon arrival in jail you’re health is assessed, I don’t know old old the tape was, but you’re giving PPD test. If it’s positive then you’re treated. Since he’s been in and out so much, and his lifestyle is what it is… well!!
m2c♥, yes, I was talking about LE. My computer is doing some crazy things, so it’s hard to even try and post.
I don’t always make myself clear. I just meant that I thought they were trying to do what they could. I was thinking more about the drug bust. Yes, it was legit, but still think it’s more about getting information on Haleigh.
You are right about it taking a good defense attorney. I still don’t think Misty realizes what she’s facing. She may not be very educated, but she is still street smart. Surely she should know she’s in serious trouble. She has much more to worry about than getting money for snacks and phone minutes. Someone needs to set her down and show her the big picture. I think she is under the impression someone is going to put up the money and get her out.
I just want this baby found one way or the other. It’s gone on way too long. I just don’t know what to make of it. I don’t know what they are hiding. None of us really know. We have theories and some good ones at that. I guess it’s still possible that a SO was watching and knew how easy it would be to take poor Haleigh. I hope that’s not the case. I don’t want to believe that. I just want to know she is safe somewhere or at the very least she is with God and not being mistreated somewhere. As bad as it sounds, I just don’t want to think about her being hurt and abused. I’ve lost sleep like a lot of others thinking about Haleigh. Hoping she’s being fed and kept warm and is being told she is loved. I wish that were the case.
tobias said,in February 6th, 2010 at 9:54 pm Does anyone feel like the focus has been taken off of finding out what happened to Haleigh. And we are getting distracted by Crystals drug test? She is under the watchful eye of DCFand LE and they will handle the matter. We are not going to be around for the rest of his life so we need to let them handle it and move on to what happened to Haleigh. jmo
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Tobias,
For weeks you have done nothing but spew hatred towards Ron for what a bad parent he was. It’s a bit rich to complain about others discussing the fact Crystal failed her drug test. Why was it ok for you to talk about Ron using drugs, but it’s not ok to discuss Crystal using them?
Me said…..I have NEVER heard TN or GGSykes say a bad thing about Crystal in the past year.
Never once did she say anything about them at all.
You are correct, it was Kim Pacasio who started that campaign….
I feel this was all leaked and rumored to distract us from the real events taking place.
And seeing as how MG came with a quick reply she wants the focus to stay on Haleigh and not on other things going on in the family. That is just my feelings and well its distracted us anyways. jmo
The complaint docs don’t reveal proven facts. Just the word of an attorney and other drama players who lack credibility, IMO.
Good night all. Pray for Haleigh.
Ok now-i see ,if Ron does it its wrong,an hes bad==If Misty does it,it wrong,an shes bad==But if Crystal does it,its just a set back,or a slip==HOW DOES THAT SOUND?? I say hair test Crystal,it will tell how much, when,an how long,a drug has been in her system- Theres a over the counter drink mixture,that will flush a persons system,an urine wont show drugs,or show small trace.But Hair test shows all,you cant fool,a DR, Lawyer ,Judge, LE, DCS. or treatment center .sHE CAN TAKE A LORITAB,an 3 days its out of her system. Marie Teressa loves that baby boy,she never ever refused you seeing them,an she truly has hurt for her G-babies,they have been with her for yrs.Do not do her wrong,she has a broken heart-you will reap it if you do.She loves her son,as you do your daughter. But truly loved those children.
Well in my book, had my kid’s grandmother had said her son’s chick was closer to the kid than his own mom… or loved chickie more than his own mom… fightin words!!!
You’re right, Tobias. Today is the vigil for finding Haleigh, but the comments are not about helping.
tobias said,in February 6th, 2010 at 10:00 pm I feel this was all leaked and rumored to distract us from the real events taking place.
And seeing as how MG came with a quick reply she wants the focus to stay on Haleigh and not on other things going on in the family. That is just my feelings and well its distracted us anyways. jmo
If you are concerned about that, then you should be looking very closely at Marie, Crystal & that side as suspects in this case, as it was them that deliberately tried to take the focus off finding Haleigh, and they did so up until the time they got very publicly outed for it. Why do you think they did that?
AnnieTN…it wouldn’t suprise me if that’s why they didn’t want the other side having a vigil…I feel confident they’ll be asking people who attend for money.
Does anyone know the status of HaleighBug? Or where we can find the records? I am guessing that Marie is still hoping to cash in big time on this. She & that side of the family are moving up my suspect list with a bullet at the moment.
Just catching up. I guess my question is why did the judge give Crystal the custody instead of GGSykes then? It was stated that there was a DCF worker there that stated she felt that Jr. should stay where he was. If Crystal failed that test why did the judge not comply with the DCF workers recommendation. There has to be something more here that we do not know.
My heart goes out to those Grandmothers and my prayers go out to Crystal that she allows God to be her strength.
May God bless them all.
They had the vigil…..Marie was on TV talking about it….
What is truly sad is that Ron is not there.
Enough said about that. We all know where the hell he is….but I’m wondering why he’s only
concerned about his shorts and no mention about
Jr. or even Haleigh….
He seems to be holding up better than Misty or her bro.
And I find that very strange…..
I, too, thought that was super rude, beautiful adams.
Nice job, Teresa. You did a fantastic job hijacking the vigil today.
There is a special place in hell for you and your family. That is the only pleasure I take in your bullshit. Bet it’s hard sleeping at night, isn’t it?
Guess what? You hung yourself today. Enjoy!
Jan,
I like the way you think! I totally agree.
And thank you again for making this place the best place on the whole WWW to discuss Haleigh!
And the mis statement on Nancy Grace when she refered to Crystal as the ex wife. Well that was quickly remedied by TN she isnt his ex they were never married. jmo
Me Said…….I always found Marie & Crystal suspect…..always. Faux tears and dabs at the eyes for Crystal…nothing like a mother really crying for her abducted daughter.
Marie swept her away from the camera quick as a bunny because Crystals acting was so bad everyone caught it.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Crystal just sat back and felt that Ron & Misty would eventually be pulled for drug dealing and she would then be in a better position to get Jr.
Once Haleigh came out of hiding or wherever she is….she would have Haleigh too.
LFlorida what do you mean Teresa hi-jacked the vigil?
Me I DONT BELIEVE THAT IS jAN bARRETT THATS JUST ANOTHER BLOGGER. JMO
me said,
in February 6th, 2010 at 10:10 pm
Jan,
I like the way you think! I totally agree.
And thank you again for making this place the best place on the whole WWW to discuss Haleigh!
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That’s not Jan Barrett
me, I don’t think that was a post from Simon’s wife. Mouse over the link and it only says ‘yahoo’, plus it isn’t the way she writes.
Too many composition, grammar, and spelling errors for it to be Jan B.
Plus, she and Simon usually type up a lead post, but don’t share their actual individual views on here.
Jason… I didn’t like it one bit!!
beautiful*adams (cent) said,in February 6th, 2010 at 10:15 pm
That’s not Jan Barrett
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Oooops…thx for the correction. I was kind of wondering about the spelling, but thought she might have just been in a hurry…lol.
BTW, cent, hope things are going better for you.
beautiful*adams (cent) said,
in February 6th, 2010 at 10:16 pm
Jason… I didn’t like it one bit!!
Regarding: My 10:03 and your 10:08 posts
Hi me, things are crazy… but I am here and dealing with it all, one day at a time. Thanks for your thoughts!!!!
me, I think Teresa Neves plays for the camera, and to get what she wants, same as Misty does.
Someone here nicknamed Teresa ‘sneaky’, and when I read their post I thought – yeah, that IS her.
She probably turned on the tears to get Jeff Hardy to play favorites by giving Ron extra visitation.
Tallent….did you get in touch with Misty?
She waiting for your call.
nOT WITH VIDEO AND AUDIO OF THE EVENTS. THATS ROCK SOLID, SORRY. JMO
Has anyone seen any video of tonight’s vigil? I looked and didn’t find any!
wHAT IS THE LINK TO THE BROADCAST OF THE VIGIL?
cent…I sure hope it gets easier for you and soon.
jINX BUY ME A COKE
me said,
in February 6th, 2010 at 10:26 pm
cent…I sure hope it gets easier for you and soon.
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Thanks, yeah… I think I’ve sort of have come to an decision and am feeling some peace.
Jason…TN & GGS are the only ones in all this mess without a drug history. And they are the “sneaky” ones? LOL. Ummm, ok.
Me….someone said earlier that GGS has a record…under the name of Dorothy Annette Sykes.
This is news to me but who knows if it’s true or not.
Christine, I’m not sure if she has a record or not, if she does, I think it would be pretty minor or else one of the many Ron haters would have plastered it all over the place by now! But I don’t think it’s for drugs, if there is one. It does seem to me that Teresa & GGS are the only ones in this mess who haven’t been involved with drugs, was the point I was trying to make.
Where does it end? Teresa Neves goes bawling to Jeff Hardy and asks for 5 more pairs of boxer shorts for her baby boy?
Jeff Hardy wipes her tears and says ‘Don’t cry baby’, ‘I’ll bend the rules for your overgrown baby boy.’
‘In addition to extra visitation, I’ll have the guards deliver a fresh pair of boxer shorts to his cell each morning.’
tallent, er I mean ojsglove, misty will either give up the info LE wants or who knowswhat will happen. I assure you however, there will be no entrapment, or dropped charges. Who are you kidding?
I agree with you Me….they seem to be the only sensible ones out of the entire clan.
I trust TN completely…..GGS is mostly in the background but TN is up front and trustworthy.
She is nothing like Marie who I find conniving and cunning….she is the controlling one in the Sheffield clan….tugs Crystal around and tells her what to say and do.
Christine, me,
She does have ‘a record’ with the PC court, but it is not drug trafficking. Relatively minor – it is for harrassing Katrina.
Jason,
I am guessing you were one of KP’s hate campaigners and perhaps the last one standing? Am I right? Why did you all want to divert attention away from finding Haleigh? Why are you still doing it?
Its time for me to go nigh- night…there are some imposters playing games and I haven’t got the energy to entertain this evening, goodnight all.
Good night Me….and all the other nice folks here…..
Once Simon comes through with the info on Tallent, we’ll be back again doing what comes naturally……LOL
me, you guessed wrong. And, speaking of finding Haleigh, conversing about KP won’t help.
Yawn, sleepy time for me, too.
I never feed trolls.
Jason, she may have had good reason to “harrass” Katrina! Who knows? Does Katrina also have a record?
In any event, I’m highly suspicious of Tommy & Joe, but also getting more and more suspicious of Marie and crew. I wouldn’t be surprised if Marie had been following Caylee’s case and thought this might be a good way to make some money. It’s odd that she started a business out of it within days, hired Dominic Casey and has apparently befriended Joy Wray (the TES person who claims Caylee was put where she was found after Casey went to jail). Joy has posted a recent youtube video opening a package she received with Marie, with different types of Haleigh bracelets and tshirts. Things that make you go hmmmmm.
ooops
“a package she received FROM (not with) Marie”
Time for me to say good night as well.
Have a great evening all.
Let’s all say a prayer for Haleigh as we settle in this evening.
I am hearing that Hope Sykes has bonded out of jail…Hmm!!
This Marie Griffis is really starting to bother me. Kim Picazio brought to light the fact that this Marie person was on the internet posting falsehoods, rumors and whatever she could to discredit the father.
Including one about him being at a store at a time he was not. Including him taking Jr out of the country. Kim Picazio also pointed out just how Marie Griffis was after every dime her side of the family could grab. Now her daughter has been caught red handed using drugs and she says the granny and great granny are on the internet posting this? She sounds really egocentric to me. Seems like she thinks because that is what she is doing and has done that the others are doing the same. I have found this woman and her daughter very suspicious and I still do. They took the focus off of Haleigh and put it on drugs. Trying to say Crystal was Snow White and Ron was the devil. The fact is that if the kid had a father out of jail she would loose her kids for using drugs. The only reason she keeps the kids is because the other parent is out of the picture. The more she opens her mouth the more I think she had someone watch that house, Misty left and they took Haleigh.
People keep saying why just take the one child.
Well, I read that Marie Griffis made the claim Haleigh was being molested. Maybe that was her story if she got caught. Plus it seems to me they already had a plan to get the other child.
Even if they are not involved this woman seems really heartless and I feel she leads her daughter around by the nose and the daughter is just following the mother.
Joy Wray utube of a video receiving a box of Haleigh gifts from Marie? Haven’t seen it, but doesn’t feel good or right. I’ve seen two of Joy’s utubes published, two about the cayle anthony case, and one or two at home with family and their weird along with one inappropriate concerning the daughter at home.
I’ve been calling for these families to stand united since the beginning. Its apparent who doesn’t want to work together, be united and their wrong for it. Now the shoes on the other foot, we’ll see who shows mercy, obeys the Word of God they speak unto the Earth.
Crystal shouldn’t be in possession of helpless children under the influence of illegal narcotics. She could easily go to a doctor, sure she’s on medicaid, and get scripts for any ailments, it’s not hard to do and it’s legal then. Not giving a darn, blowing the small amount of cash you have on buying pills on the street is very expensive, especially for those who don’t have big incomes, it takes from the home, family and especially the children. The children do without from illegal purchasing of drugs. Pills sell for between five and ten dollars a piece. Expensive.
No excuse to be out doing drugs illegally, too many doctors willing to write scripts to make things legit and not be in trouble with dcf and the law. The doctor can monitor the use and levels and keep the person healthy and functioning in order to maintain good quality life and the ability to raise children safely with the oversight of Doctors.
Wonder if pcso is or has set up a drug UC sting on the Crystal and family side? Why not? I demand it now. I call for it. What’s fair is fair, right is right through and through. I demand an UC drug sting in Baker county immediately. There’s more proof and documentation, medically, court documents, family testimony and admittance, crystals confessions, wrecks, and drug tests along with dcf investigations and PCSO doesn’t think a sting needs to be done there? What’s the difference?
Why Sting Ron and Misty and not sting Crystal? We know that answer. I just wanted to pose the question for righteousness sake.
Hugs tonight everyone, love BNN blog and it’s posters, along with Simon and Jan. Good place to learn and opine.
LFlorida said,
in February 6th, 2010 at 10:10 pm
Nice job, Teresa. You did a fantastic job hijacking the vigil today.
There is a special place in hell for you and your family. That is the only pleasure I take in your bullshit. Bet it’s hard sleeping at night, isn’t it?
Guess what? You hung yourself today. Enjoy!
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Please explain what she did.
lisa said,in February 6th, 2010 at 11:26 pm Misty left and they took Haleigh.
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Thats what i am talking about too. hmm
Video by Joy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aHJfIOUz2o
jimbob said,in February 6th, 2010 at 11:35 pm
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what happened at the vigil?
I can not find a thing on the vigil.. except for a few newspaper articles. I think that it’s criminal.
Lisa…re the just one child issue…if it was about Money, they knew a 5 year old girl would be the answer. Caylee got soooo much press, Adji not so much. Caylee’s case made her grandparents live like millionaires…perhaps Marie wanted the same for herself.
Vigil video:
http://www.news4jax.com/video/22488957/index.html
Just say that you guys are right… then why is TN insisting that Misty knows more… lets be real, she means Misty KNOWS?
LFlorida said,
in February 6th, 2010 at 10:10 pm
Nice job, Teresa. You did a fantastic job hijacking the vigil today.
There is a special place in hell for you and your family. That is the only pleasure I take in your bullshit. Bet it’s hard sleeping at night, isn’t it?
Guess what? You hung yourself today. Enjoy!
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hijacked? I’ve seen pictures and video and haven’t seen any hijacking.
Were you there? curious to know of Marty and Connie where there since I haven’t seen them on film or in an interview
cent….I have 2 guesses on that question…
1. So long as TN defended Misty, the focus was on that, rather than finding Haleigh, and she wanted that to stop….same reason I think Ron & Misty divorced.
2. She thinks LE must have something on her to be repeatedly saying that (though they seemed to move away from it this week).
3. She thinks Misty is protecting herself and/or Tommy or a “friend”.
I think it’s a combination of the 3 reasons above.
Vaq… are there any posted on the web? Can you post a link please?
ooops…I have 3 guesses, not 2!
Does anyone know if Marie and Crystal were asking for money at the vigil?
Jason said,
in February 6th, 2010 at 9:38 pm
Vaq, DCF did not say Cloe was drugged at birth. Please don’t spread lies.
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Kim said it in her rebuttal. Not spreading any lies.
Some of these post are worth repeating.
me said,
in February 6th, 2010 at 9:55 pm
Jason…what lies are you talking about? The only lie I heard was someone spread a lie that Crystal had passed her recent drug test. The truth was, she failed. I am guessing Marie started that lie.
And, in case you haven’t read the KP complaint documents, it was Marie, Crystal & Kim that conducted a malicious campaign of gossip & lies, not TN or GGS.
Nice try.
Me… thanks for answering… I’m still thinking that DB was on the scene before Feb of last year, and that she along with some family members orchestrated this for LOOT. I know it’s far fetch, but to me it makes since to have an inside person, someone that knows the working of searches done by LE. Stay several steps ahead of the law.
me said,
in February 6th, 2010 at 9:58 pm
tobias said,in February 6th, 2010 at 9:54 pm Does anyone feel like the focus has been taken off of finding out what happened to Haleigh. And we are getting distracted by Crystals drug test? She is under the watchful eye of DCFand LE and they will handle the matter. We are not going to be around for the rest of his life so we need to let them handle it and move on to what happened to Haleigh. jmo
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Tobias,
For weeks you have done nothing but spew hatred towards Ron for what a bad parent he was. It’s a bit rich to complain about others discussing the fact Crystal failed her drug test. Why was it ok for you to talk about Ron using drugs, but it’s not ok to discuss Crystal using them?
me said,
in February 6th, 2010 at 7:59 pm
I have asked this before, but never got an answer. In one of the early interviews Marie talks about how she is currently raising a 10 year old….does anyone know who’s kid this is? Does that mean Crystal is looking after at least 5 children by herself in the daytime?
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that is Marie’s and Johnny Jack Lauramore, Johnny Sheffield’s uncle that had the grow operation with Marie, kid. She has 4 kids and there are 3 different fathers.
Christine said,
in February 6th, 2010 at 9:59 pm
Me said…..I have NEVER heard TN or GGSykes say a bad thing about Crystal in the past year.
Never once did she say anything about them at all.
You are correct, it was Kim Pacasio who started that campaign…
Treece, says I haven’t heard Teresa N say a bad word about Crystal either.
If you will check out the vigil tonight you will see Teresa N being kind and comforting Crystal.
Jan said,
in February 6th, 2010 at 10:03 pm
Ok now-i see ,if Ron does it its wrong,an hes bad==If Misty does it,it wrong,an shes bad==But if Crystal does it,its just a set back,or a slip==HOW DOES THAT SOUND?? I say hair test Crystal,it will tell how much, when,an how long,a drug has been in her system- Theres a over the counter drink mixture,that will flush a persons system,an urine wont show drugs,or show small trace.But Hair test shows all,you cant fool,a DR, Lawyer ,Judge, LE, DCS. or treatment center .sHE CAN TAKE A LORITAB,an 3 days its out of her system. Marie Teressa loves that baby boy,she never ever refused you seeing them,an she truly has hurt for her G-babies,they have been with her for yrs.Do not do her wrong,she has a broken heart-you will reap it if you do.She loves her son,as you do your daughter. But truly loved those children.
beautiful*adams (cent) said,
in February 7th, 2010 at 12:21 am
Vaq… are there any posted on the web? Can you post a link please?
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pictures are here, I hope the link to this site is ok. I hope Jan will leave it since it has the pictures.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=7079.0
My feelings on KP and her crappy reports are, why take what she says as gospel, if she was truly the head of the so-called Ron “Lynch Mob”, why the hell is she credible now?
What happen at the vigil damit!
answer or gtfo now!
http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/2010-02-07/story/a_year_since_haleigh_vanished_ronald_and_misty_lost_their_way_long_ago_0
cent…I don’t think she is credible re what she tries to spin to the public….however, what she stated that I believe was credible was written to the Bar Association….they have the power to revoke her license and I feel confident she wouldn’t lie to them.
Plus, not one word of it was denied by any one in that camp…not the crack stuff, not the Chloe born with drugs in her system stuff, not any of it! I feel confident Marie & Crystal would have at least denied it if they knew it wasn’t true.
I agree, me. I think Kim is a witch but the bar rebuttal is totally something different. You are damn straight she would have had to have the documentation to back up her claims to the bar association. They aren’t just going to take the word of an attorney over an ex client without that attorney having the proof to back up her statements
Maybe… the entire clan is so ass backwards, they cop to the craziest mess. I think if it suits KP’s purpose, she’ll say whatever it takes. Maybe, it’s all true and C&M are keeping quiet ’cause that’s their way of admitting it.
I still want to know about the vigil.
I don’t believe anything Kim P says off the record. But I think she has more brains than to
make that up to the bar.
Yet, are we really believing that a seasoned attorney was duped by a couple of country folk? KP knew what was going on, it just got out of control, and then when Cobra came out about those sex-romps, well… a woman scorned is a hell of a thing.
alethea said,in February 6th, 2010 at 8:46 pm “me said,in February 6th, 2010 at 7:42 pm Sally said,in February 6th, 2010 at 7:09 pm At least Crystal is trying to clean up. Look at Ron, the one who had custody. Geeeeeeeeez, he is the one thaat got Crystal started on drugs. What a creep. I would nt want my kids around Ron, TN or GMM.
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“Sally…I see no evidence that Crystal is trying to clean up, quite the opposite in fact.
LOL re Ron getting Crystal on drugs. In case you haven’t heard, Marie was running a drug house, with Crystal living in it, years before she met Ronald. You wanna blame someone, blame her mother.”
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Do we know what drugs Crystal is supposed to be addicted to? If it’s Lortab, that’s an opiate, isn’t it? A prescription med? Now, please correct me if I’m mistaken, but I don’t recall seeing any mention of a connection of that side of the family with selling that type of drug, whereas, you have the “other side” sitting in jail for trafficking in same. Have I missed something?
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In case anyone misunderstood, I meant that there is (in my opinion), more circumstantial evidence supporting the idea that Crystal didn’t get on the opiates until after she got with Ron. Just my opinion.
And going after someone who obviously has posttraumatic stress disorder is like sharks smelling blood in the water. JUST MY OPINION.
cent…I don’t think KP was duped by them at all…not one little bit. She wanted some press out of the case, and she got it.
alethea said,in February 7th, 2010 at 1:26 am alethea said,in February 6th, 2010 at 8:46
In case anyone misunderstood, I meant that there is (in my opinion), more circumstantial evidence supporting the idea that Crystal didn’t get on the opiates until after she got with Ron. Just my opinion.
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Ron is only one year older than Crystal, and they started dating at an age where it is well known that females are years more mature than their male counterparts. She would have been the more “mature” of the two. And I see zero evidence that Ron was using opiates at that age. But there’s plenty of evidence that her mommy was running a drug house at that time.
And going after someone who obviously has posttraumatic stress disorder is like sharks smelling blood in the water. JUST MY
ooops re the last 2 lines of my post…meant to cut them from alethea’s post.
BTW, who has posttraumatic stress disorder?
me said,in February 7th, 2010 at 1:43 am ooops re the last 2 lines of my post…meant to cut them from alethea’s post.
BTW, who has posttraumatic stress disorder?
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Hope you don’t find out the hard way how to recognize it.
who has post traumatic stress disorder?
alethea….that was hardly an answer to my question. Who has PTSD?
Me, I would think that probably means no one that we are discussing here tonight has PTSD.
Good night all, sweet dreams.
Good night treece.
Somehow I missed this news report when it came out. Seems Marie REALLY likes Cindy Anthony. The Cummings kicked the As to the curb, the Sheffields welcomed them with open arms. I fear Marie did this so she could make money like the As did.
As for Crystal, she won’t be winning any academy awards…not one tear coming from her eyes, then the pretend collapse…gmab.
I am becoming more and more suspicious of that side of the family.
And Marie, who must have known TN & GGS were coming to the vigil, showed zero class by trashing them to TJ just before it took place.
And why all the kids there? I don’t think young kids should be exposed to that, and certainly not made to sing.
I don’t see Chad in any of the pics.
I forgot the link to the video of Marie, Crystal & Cindy Anthony together…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agXSjey3xJk
The Anthony’s and Sheffield/Griffis teamed together…how in the heck did I miss this? And they hired Dominic Casey, and have befriended Joy Wray. Things that make you go hmmmm.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbJ5y4YQ8Lw&feature=related
KP stated that her job was to present her clients in the best light possible. She attempted to do this and was aware of Crystal’s shortcomings and gave evidence that she advised Marie about this problem. I think, however, as time went on and she learned more, such as Cloe’s being born addicted to narcotics, she realized just how large a drug problem Crystal had. I don’t think she was duped as much as she initially thought that she could “fix” it, but eventually concluded that it was beyond her control.
Well, what about the reported incident (if I remember correctly) about how Cobra told KP that her client needed some help for her problem and she supposedly replied something about how it would make her client look bad? Has that been verified?
Decided to take a page out of Treece’s book. LOL
BA(cent) this one deserved a reporting.
beautiful*adams (cent) said,in February 7th, 2010 at 12:30 am My feelings on KP and her crappy reports are, why take what she says as gospel, if she was truly the head of the so-called Ron “Lynch Mob”, why the hell is she credible now?
Tallent is from Orlando….is a multi-felon, and WILL NOT be visiting Misty anytime soon. He is also 42 yrs old….a little old for her…don’t you think? He has previous drug charges, assaults, DUI, arrestted in Putnam for Prob Violation. His 2 borthers live in Georgetown, FL….
This is really an interesting article. It has info that I don’t recall being published before.
It is written by Dana Treen.
http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/2010-02-07/story/a_year_since_haleigh_vanished_ronald_and_misty_lost_their_way_long_ago_0
Jacksonville.com Jacksonville, Fl
1-7-10 Updated: 1:06 a.m.
“A year since Haleigh vanished, Ronald and Misty lost their way long ago”
Hollys…anything new re your Haleigh sighting?
No….nothing since last update….
I think I found the video that was being described as a “high-jacking”. Seems fairly accurate…..A Ron plug pretty much.
http://www.news4jax.com/video/22488957/index.html
Holly gmom
You know when I saw his age in booking after the video,I thought no way,he’s too old for her.But he wouldn’t be bf,she had just gotten the tatoo of RC.She wants out,he could have the money and why she wanted to talk to him.He was arrested in Putnam,11/09,maybe because his name was mentioned w/ Misty,if it’s him.He could be the John,Hank Sr mentioned,w/a gf Linda.I can’t find a married name for him.Makes sense in Veromi it says he’s from Orlando,booking address was Davenport.But,if he’s from Orlando and that’s Donna’s hometown,maybe Misty met him through Donna.Or it might not be Tallent,but Talon a young 20′s gangsta.LOL Who knows?But,I’ll bet before we even saw that video after LE reviewed it Talon or Tallent,whomever had already been questioned.
http://www.news4jax.com/video/22425466/index.html the video link of grandmas at vigil
oops wrong link above here is vigil link
http://www.news4jax.com/video/22488957/
this is the vigil video – tn & mg clip
teresa has visited ron in flagler.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqrKzDZUwow&feature=player_embedded
This video really disturbs me….only 11 days after Haleigh goes missing and Crystal and Marie don’t look the least bit sad….give an interview and are practically telling people not to bother looking for Haleigh by suggesting Ron was responsible. At this point, they were already selling things and asking for money to help pay their bills. They look like they are on a mission to me, and it’s about money, not Haleigh. I do hope PCSO are watching that side of the family very closely.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_H5oEauLF4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6ZDrTHoIhY&feature=related
Just hours after Haleigh went missing and Crystal doesn’t look at all upset..not one tiny bit.
Good morning, everyone!
I never liked KP, still don’t. However, the information she included in a formal response to the Bar Association is a lot less questionable to me than her other antics before. The Bar could check out the info and if it’s wrong KP could be in real trouble AND if it’s wrong CS could sue her. So to me there is very little reason, if any, to question it.
it is a basic bio on ronald, crystal sh. and misty. it includes annette sykes quotes.
i am not sure how to take this article written by dana treen. is it suppose to get sympathy for ronald? the ronald part and the misty part?? the crystal part is not sympathetic to ronald.
http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/2010-02-07/story/a_year_since_haleigh_vanished_ronald_and_misty_lost_their_way_long_ago_0
A year since Haleigh vanished, Ronald and Misty lost their way long ago
By Dana TreenStory updated at 1:06 AM on Sunday, Feb. 7, 2010
this is a quote at the bottom by annette that i don’t remember seeing before. but, i don’t follow as close as many of you here do.
On Feb. 9, the night after Croslin returned to Cummings’ mobile home from the weekend of partying, Sykes dropped by. She said she was upset that Croslin had gone off and left her grandson without anyone to watch over the two kids.
“I was mad because Ronald let her come back,” she said. “But it’s his house. There wasn’t nothing I could do about it other than be mad.”
By the next morning, Haleigh was gone
i bet lisa loves they used an arrest pic for her
Only 2 days after Haleigh goes missing…Marie on camera, doesn’t ask anyone to look for Haleigh….just talking BS about Ron. Not a tear in her eye. I am really wondering if Marie is behind this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybLiwshayRo&feature=related
Kim Picazio can’t write B.S to the court. She would need to back up what she said. If she said the baby was born with illegal drugs in her system and DFS told her that, then that is a fact the court can look into.
Every Time Marie Griffis opens her mouth I have to wonder with such a nut for a grandmother does this child have a chance.
Since chances are the grandma will be raising this kid. She just sound like an angry nutcase.
Then I read that she said she is at peace with whatever happened to Haleigh.
Seems very strange to me. Misty may know something such as, she left the children alone and had done this many times before. Could be as simple as that.
Lisa…I agree.
And I think that’s a real possibility re Misty.
Frankly, I won’t be at all surprised if we hear Marie is behind this. Such a contrast between her & Teresa on the camera in the days following the disappearance. Marie looks like she is on a mission. She probably watched NG & wanted to make money like the As did, and when Crystal got hit with the warrant re unpaid child support, Marie & Chad knew they’d lose their own drugged up babysitter (Crystal)if she went to jail. I assume Crystal was looking after Marie’s 10 year old son, as well as Chad’s kids and Chloe when the others were at work…though I’m still not at all convinced Chad had or has a job. They must have all freaked when Crystal got hit with a debt of over $10k and a threat of jail.
lisa used a sweet sympathetic tone with misty the whole time. even when talking about tallent. hank too, but, he did not want to talk about tallent. he is obviously someone they all know, and hank was more in reality world. (buzzed or not) i am not sure why that was noticeable to me, but, i stuck out a little bit.
something about having no wheels to get around.
hank: “no tallent won’t, i don’t want nothin’ to do with tallent.”
Does anybody know why TN didnt raise Ron herself ?
Hi, me @ 5:50 am
If it turns out that someone on the bio-mom’s side is responsible for Haleigh’s disappearance the ONLY thing that would surprise me about it is that it was discovered!
LOL!
LE has done zero zippitydoodah (as far as I know) to look into that possibility in spite of the numerous motivations and suspicious behavior on that side.
If we ever learn that, it will be because LE accidentally tripped over the info (in a way that they could not cover up); new LE starts a new investigation; or the info comes to light some other way.
Sally @ 6:35 – You’re on a near dead horse on a dead end street. I’m not joining you. Please read up on the case. Especially RECENT information.
hello sally,
i have always wondered that very same thing myself. i had read a post that said ronald’s uncle raised him and his sister crystal for a while. and then the children were raised by annette.
why were they not raised by either of their parents? i wondered if health issues were involved? (no, i am not asking specifics, just a general explanation if it is common knowledge.)
i am not 100% sure what m2c means above. i think maybe she is saying she believes cs family is involved in haleigh’s disappearance. so don’t ask about ronald’s background? ms.p.
ms.p19 – If the meaning of my 6:40am post really does elude you, I’ll explain. There is no point whatsoever in continuing to try to beat up on TN or even Ron (IMO). The continued efforts are transparently malicious and I cannot see any connection to “WHERE IS HALEIGH!”
And if THIS eludes you too, let me add, that any info that can come to light about the bio-mom’s side at this point might be helpful because LE is getting nowhere (so far).
I do not care if it was R or C. It may be neither! I want to know what happened to Haleigh! Don’t you?
To clarify: It’s not that I believe C’s side did it. It’s that WE DO NOT KNOW WHO DID! And LE seems to be getting nowhere. A year’s worth of anti-R comments (true and false) has gotten us nowhere.
Can we do something different? And maybe learn something that will help?
Also there are more than few posters who have never (that I’ve seen) expressed any interest or concern in what happened to Haleigh. All they ever post are anti-R comments. What’s the point of that?
A year since Haleigh vanished, Ronald and Misty lost their way long ago
By Dana Treen
http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/2…way_long_ago_0
m2c,
well i guess sally was just wondering and so was i. you know m2c not everyone has followed as closely from the beginning. or has been able to keep up. i read your post to sally as a little “snotty”. if i am wrong, i apologize about that!
i personally don’t feel that i was beating anyone up. just trying to understand the WHOLLLE picture. and for the record i was not asking in a judgemental way. you are not the only one capable of understanding we all have different life circumstances and different issues.
as far as myself, i have always wanted everyone and everything checked out. i even posted early on about my disappointment that le appeared to be focusing in rather quickly. but, i have no idea what le really have or have not done. i simply have tried my best to hear what tj, cobra, and others here on the blog have been saying. i have no clue if the law has a clue. i just keep hoping they find what they need.
you have personally asked me before if i think hc mother’s family should be checked out. the answer is yes, of course! .and,i have said yes to you more than once. if you ask me any more to make a point to me, i refer you back to this post! YES, YES, YES!
i guess i am just a huge jerk, because, i am hoping it is crystal or ronald!!!!
i did not misunderstand the tone you used with ME this morning and in the past! i don’t need it!
sincerely, ms.p
there are a number of interesting comments in this article
http://www.ocala.com/article/20100207/ARTICLES/2071020/1001/NEWS01?p=all&tc=pgall
Satsuma residents say Haleigh case changed area
one is this:
“Haleigh’s mother, Crystal Sheffield, along with Sheffield’s mother, Marie Griffis, and Cummings’ mother, Teresa Neves, gathered Saturday night in Glen St. Mary for the first of two vigils.
Griffis and Neves shared a long hug beforehand. Sheffield sobbed through most of it.”
another interesting quote:
“Poppen, who lives for the winter season in the home next to the one in which Cummings and Croslin lived when Haleigh vanished, no longer feels as safe as she once did.
“Just the uncomfortableness of knowing something like that happened – up until that time we never locked our doors,” said Poppen, a Chicago native who has been coming to Satsuma for 20 years. “When I moved in here, I knew everybody here. Now I feel like I have to lock everything or hide everything.”
and there are a couple more incldg comment on us bloggers and also th
Croslin’s, Cummings’ lives tied to family, misfortune
“Snip” http://www.gainesville.com/article/2…S/2071006/1002
By Lise Fisher & Cindy Swirko and Cindy Swirko, Staff writers
Teresa Neves is certain of one thing. Before the disappearance of Haleigh Cummings, Misty who cared for the little girl and Junior, was caring and responsible.
“She loved them,” Neves, 50, said of Misty Croslin. “There was no doubt in my mind about that.”
Today, TN says she doesn’t know who Misty has turned out to be. “I feel that somewhere in those two or three days before Haleigh went missing, she took a wrong turn in life, and that brought her to where she is today,” Neves said. “I do not feel she is the same person she was when I first met her. It’s like night and day.”
As for Ronald Cummings, Neves wouldn’t talk about the current criminal charges against him, but acknowledged he has made mistakes in the past.
“He was a very, very intelligent person. He has a very high IQ,” Neves said of her son. “He has made some mistakes. You know what they say, they that can cast the first stone. I say that
Much more at article link!
msp:
My response to Sally was based partly on the consistent theme of her posts (all the ones I’ve read).
Your unnecessary and negative interpretation of what my comment meant sounded pretty wise acre to me. So if you want to talk attitude please talk with yourself first for a bit.
Also, I do not remember ever asking you personally if you thought C’s side should be checked out. Whether I did or not before – I did not today.
I asked:
I want to know what happened to Haleigh! Don’t you?
And –
Re: The constant anti-R posts:
What’s the point of that?
Can we do something different? And maybe learn something that will help?
If my posts need “interpreting” please let me do it. I don’t need anyone – especially people with mud colored glasses (when speaking to me or about this topic) trying to interpret them for me, thank you.
NEW ARTICLE, Everyone!
yesterday’s news, is forgotten so fast.. seems to me that a local florida newspaper interviewed TN after her trip to visit her son in Flagler County Jail.. Has the vision of the tall gates with the curling wire on top ring any bells? So, what is the sense in making the statements about who visited or not.. Its a false statement to say she hasn’t.. Originally, this would have been claritied if people had listened or read.. Ronalds visitations in Flagler were limited.. His visitations in Putnam was suppose to be every two weeks, until his Mother and Grandmother talked to Sheriff Hardy and made arrangements, they could see him twice a week, for 30 minutes each visit.. Please start getting your information straight, or just start paying attention, and you might actually post accurate info, and stop making mountains out of nothing. Worry more about Junior.. This separation Anxety he seems to be suffering from, speaks volumns.. worry about that. Encourage the bio mom, to seek medical care for Junior before it becomes a major problem for the rest of his life. and NO, a 4 year old being told and he understands, NO.. The child is 4 years old, How can he understand, Why, he’s lost his Sister, his father, his home, his Grandmothers in Putnam, his school, his friends.. His entire life has been turned upside down.. And NO, his Dad has not been able to talk to him, seems there is a problem with people not answering the phone, when the calls come in.. So, this is where your concerns need to be.. On Junior, and his well being!!!
mlee said,in February 7th, 2010 at 10:42 am
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And Chole’s too. Why would any Doc let Crystal take a drug baby home from hospital. Thats dangerous to me. jmo
Mlee, good post
msp said to m2c
i did not misunderstand the tone you used with ME
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treece says,
msp what tone is it you use with me??
Does anyone know what Timmy does for a living? He seems to be home at all times when a collect calls come in. They are goes to suck up this family’s income retrn with minutes, before he gets IT!!!!
Krissy, someone here said that it’s Drywall work.
Please don’t take this the wrong way as I am just seeking answers, like everyone else. TN stated something changed misty in those two or three days before Haleigh went missing… true or not, I don’t know, but naynay said that ronald beat misty up before she left because misty claimed to be pregnant…could this be the reason for the change? yikes, I’m sorta’ scared to post this. I’m not defending ron or anybody with this, just sayin’
MeThinks, I get it… yes, they have come out with her changing. I on the other hand believe that they knew what Misty was all about from the get go. Small town, large talk. I think her erratic behavior became inconvenient to them.
As far as the “beating” between R and M, NayNay says that what Misty told her, WBG says thats what he was told. Ron, on Geraldo says he never hit a woman before.
‘me’, you said Ron is a year older than Crystal but that is not true.
There is almost a 2 year age difference. Ron was born 10-19-1983, Crystal was born 08-30-1985.
Can you say hell on tv?
In the article about Misty going to New Jersy with a boy friend, could that have been J.Miller? That would have been around the time he was put in jail. I always wondered what happened in Flagler with Misty and J. Miller, the records are sealed because she was a minor but could it be that they just ran away to Ne Jersey and had sex and when they got caught he was put in jail because she was 14 and he was 17? I also believe they both could have also been involved in taking drugs so he took a plea deal with less time 8 yrs. lude and lasidious behavior instead of a drug charge?
Guess we may never know but it is a good possiblity yes? jmo
I also remember seeing that she still wrote to him on his myspace in prison and kept in contact with him for awhile after he was in jail? JMO
methinks said,
in February 7th, 2010 at 2:15 pm
Please don’t take this the wrong way as I am just seeking answers, like everyone else. TN stated something changed misty in those two or three days before Haleigh went missing… true or not, I don’t know, but naynay said that ronald beat misty up before she left because misty claimed to be pregnant…could this be the reason for the change? yikes, I’m sorta’ scared to post this. I’m not defending ron or anybody with this, just sayin’
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the reason Misty took off that weekend is because she was pissed that Ron and Crystal were talking about getting back together, once again, and she found out.
Tobias @ 2:40 – Why persist with the guessing games? We will never know. It is a sealed case because it involved a minor. It is legally and ethically none of our business.
Vaquera said,in February 7th, 2010 at 2:58 pm methinks said,
in February 7th, 2010 at 2:15 pm
Please don’t take this the wrong way as I am just seeking answers, like everyone else. TN stated something changed misty in those two or three days before Haleigh went missing… true or not, I don’t know, but naynay said that ronald beat misty up before she left because misty claimed to be pregnant…could this be the reason for the change? yikes, I’m sorta’ scared to post this. I’m not defending ron or anybody with this, just sayin’
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the reason Misty took off that weekend is because she was pissed that Ron and Crystal were talking about getting back together, once again, and she found out.
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Okay, you have my attention. Can you say who reported this and when? Thank you.
Vthe reason Misty took off that weekend is because she was pissed that Ron and Crystal were talking about getting back together, once again, and she found outaquera said,in February 7th, 2010 at 2:58 pm ———————- vaquera, wow I hadb’t heard that! interesting…that too, could be the reason for “the change” She was beginning to lose trust in “her man”. Is it at all possible that Haleigh met her fate while misty was gone all weekend, and ron has threatened to blame her if she doesn’t keep his secret?Gsykes may have had a reason to state that she was there on the night she went missing. Could it have happened on Gsykes watch? After all, Gsykes is on morphine,unless that is a rumor. Maybe that is why she was so upset that ron took her back. Just what we need…another theory..
Alethea,Who reported what?
It was verified Haleigh was in school Monday
WHEW! Thats good, we can put that theory to rest. thanks treese, I forgot.
I understand, our minds can run in 100 different directions with these players.
Vaq. I to have heard that rumor that Ron and Crystal were talking about a reuniting. I also stated before that there had to be trouble in paradise for a young girl to fake she was pregnant in order to keep her significant other. Perhaps this is why she did it, but Ron took her to her brothers and threw her and her clothes out. They now are no longer an item. Misty is gone from Wednesday night through Sunday afternoon when Ron calls her and ask if she has any condoms and folks over in Putnam tell me Ron himself went and picked her up and brought her back to his home. Teresa Neves herself said that they were up all night sorting out their problems.
Misty did not leave him ( Ron threw her out ) with noone to watch his children, because he has always had GGSykes. I personally do not know why Annette made that statement. I guess I am suprised that it’s not her name he had tattooed above his heart. It appears that it has been Annette who has always been there to take custody and raise all of these children. God love her heart!! I don’t know why he was not raised by his mom and it is none of my business so I won’t go there. I won’t go 13 years back on Marie either. I am only concerned about the time frame from Feb 9th 2009 until the present.
I personally believe LE has checked out the other side of the family and up to now have found nothing of significance to report and that is why we do not hear anything about that investigative info because there is none. I believe all their avenues led back to Satsuma.
There was another thing i picked up thanks to one of Me saids links and it is where Crystal states she picked up the kids fridays @ 6pm and returns them on Sunday@ 6pm. My question is why did Ron tell Crystal she could not have them that weekend right before Haleigh disappeared on Maonday night early Tues. morning due to Haleigh missing school or he would go to jail. Crystal picking them up at this time of day and returning them on Sunday evening would not have interefered with Haleigh being present at school.
Another thing I picked up from Dana Treens article is that it stated that Ron called Tommy more than once wanting to know where Misty was. Never have we heard yet if Tommy ever called Ron back. I do find this interesting and the fact he also called Misty 20 plus times and she had her phone off.
I want to know now if Ron called Tommy and Misty repeatedly he had to be angry and at the most worried. Why did he not call the two people he trusted most in the world his mother and GGSykes??????? Why did he not leave work?
looking, very good questions!
looking – I don’t think that part about R calling M 20 times came from a reliable source, did it?
Also, WHY would someone be worried about the welfare of his children over a quarrel with a girl friend who is not known to be violent and who had been caring for the children for six months? Why would anyone even think along those lines? He might have been mad at M but I’m sure – as for most people – any danger to his children would not occur to him. So why risk his job to go find her?
Her behavior – shutting the phone off – is SO teenage girl = “I’m not speaking to you.”
looking – he didn’t call TN or gma because he wanted to speak to M and I’m sure he was sure she was NOT with them! lol!
looking – the hours of the weekend visits are not necessarily the hours she stuck with. She might have brought the kids back on Mondays sometimes. Even C never questioned that when SHE said that’s what he told her. So I expect she’s been a day late a lot of times.
AnneInTn @ 10:49 You asked: “Why would any Doc let Crystal take a drug baby home from hospital. Thats dangerous to me.”
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Why is DCFS letting Jr and Chloe stay with her when she’s still not clean? Why does DCFS do and not do what they do?
It sure is NOT in the best interests of the children from what I see most of the time (generally speaking – not just this case)
jimbob said,in February 6th, 2010 at 11:35 pm LFlorida said,
in February 6th, 2010 at 10:10 pm
Nice job, Teresa. You did a fantastic job hijacking the vigil today.
There is a special place in hell for you and your family. That is the only pleasure I take in your bullshit. Bet it’s hard sleeping at night, isn’t it?
Guess what? You hung yourself today. Enjoy!
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Please explain what she did.
Prolly the eyeshadow !
jimbob said,in February 6th, 2010 at 11:35 pm LFlorida said,
in February 6th, 2010 at 10:10 pm
Nice job, Teresa. You did a fantastic job hijacking the vigil today.
There is a special place in hell for you and your family. That is the only pleasure I take in your bullshit. Bet it’s hard sleeping at night, isn’t it?
Guess what? You hung yourself today. Enjoy!
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Please explain what she did.
Prolly the eyeshadow !
jimbob said,in February 6th, 2010 at 11:35 pm LFlorida said,
in February 6th, 2010 at 10:10 pm
Nice job, Teresa. You did a fantastic job hijacking the vigil today.
There is a special place in hell for you and your family. That is the only pleasure I take in your bullshit. Bet it’s hard sleeping at night, isn’t it?
Guess what? You hung yourself today. Enjoy!
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Please explain what she did.
Prolly the eyeshadow !
Sally said,in February 7th, 2010 at 7:43 pm
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Boy Sally what rock did you crawl out from under. Go back where u came from.
Sally said,in February 7th, 2010 at 7:43 pm jimbob said,in February 6th, 2010 at 11:35 pm LFlorida said,
in February 6th, 2010 at 10:10 pm
Nice job, Teresa. You did a fantastic job hijacking the vigil today.
There is a special place in hell for you and your family. That is the only pleasure I take in your bullshit. Bet it’s hard sleeping at night, isn’t it?
Guess what? You hung yourself today. Enjoy!
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Please explain what she did.
Prolly the eyeshadow !
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Mean Mean people comes out of the walls!!!
AnneInTn -
It’s like TJ said on the radio program today. People try to distract us from one subject by saying “look over there!”
It happens every single time a negative (or potentially negative) thing comes out about the bio-mom’s side. They try to distract us with BS.
m2c♥ said,in February 7th, 2010 at 8:41 pm AnneInTn -
It’s like TJ said on the radio program today. People try to distract us from one subject by saying “look over there!”
It happens every single time a negative (or potentially negative) thing comes out about the bio-mom’s side. They try to distract us with BS
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Yep your right m2c. how quick things leaves people minds.
I am Jan,also-but i will put Jan 57 from now on,just forgot to add it,when commenting.That all three Misty,Ron,an Crystal have been wrong,an all drug addicts,an all needed rehab,when,Haliegh first went missing,so they could clean up,clear their minds,an Help find Haliegh.I am saying when we speak down on 2,an dont see that,Crystal could just has well have got busted getting her pills,as they did,if someone was waiting to set her up-she had a year to prepar,an get clean.So she could be a parent to Butter bean-but seems,she loves to pop a pill,more than to stay straight for her children–somone said Ron had to get Crystal,on drugs,she was so young-Hey her mother MG was a dealer then,check the records,so she could,as well as anyone have been Crystals supplier my children,i taught to stay away from drugs,an showed them some at rehab,an what they looked like after use,an they avoid all of it because they saw a aunt in the family make a azzzz out of herself,being strung out.-shes clean now because we didnt baby her,or say well this is why,or that is why she did it-no excuses,you make the choice to put the pills in your mouth,smoke the crack pipe-snort the toot-how old is mommy now? guess she doesnt care if she loses Ron jr again,sure doesnt think she will ever lose Cloe.wow look what that babies went through—- i to remember all the haliegh bug center fights,greed when monies started drying up-one blamed the other-an so on,but now its a new day to drag in money They remind me of the Anthonys- May someone step in,an make LE-AN DC services-make a change because many children are being left in drug addicts care there. May God have Mercy-An all Halieghs family get their lives on track-All are at fault for over looking,an getting passive with their grown childrens behavior where these innocent children are concerned—Dont point at one,when the others at fault as well -all parents-as well as grandparents–An to the abductor of Haliegh you will be caught,an its comming,in this life, or the next,judgements comming
m2c, BNN, and other reliable media sources reported that Ron called Misty 20 plus times that night. We only heard of one time that he phoned Tommy Croslin. With me so far? The article from Dana Treen states” Ron called Tommy repeatedly. Ron was angry and wanted to know where Misty was” Now I ask you to try and understand what I am asking. Apparently Ron was making a heck alot of calls from work to Tommy and Misty. Instead of calling Tommy so many times why did he not call his mom or Grandmother? The two people he trusts .
The reason I talked about Crystals visitation is because we like to go off facts from the players own mouths. There was no reason pertaining to school that Crystal could not have had her visitation and Ronald make it clear that Haleigh be home Sunday afternoon.
That reason makes no sense. Crystal may have not questioned it in the media, but we do not know if she questioned it personally.
I do not condone Crystals habit. If DCF has her in rehab lets hope it works for the childrens sake.
I am not a hater of anyone nor am I a supporter of anyone. I am only here for Haleigh. They all need prayer and a conscience. I try and stick to the facts. Those times were stated from crystals own mouth; so I questioned it.
The thing about Crystal failing a drug test probably made some very happy . It does not make me happy it makes me feel sad. Ron getting caught trafficking drugs makes me sad. These parents make me angry. I could care less if my theory is right. The most important thing to me is Haleigh is found and justice is served!!!
Looking, I understand where you’re coming from. If he was concerned and couldn’t reach her, why not call your own family? After all, your children are there. The only reason I can think of besides a lovers quarrel, would be because he didn’t want them to know “something” was up!~moo
I find it curious that no one really questions why HaLeigh was late for school so much. To me that shows that perhaps the nights in that home weren’t so great.
ty looking for justice, you answered one of my questions.
Mesaid,im on of TCD blogger,have been there a while.But some one from there turned me on to this site,an Levi site.Also please excuse my spelling im quite a sick woman,an somtimes just get in a hurry to express my point,that i mess up lol, i check,an still miss things.I have been through a murder of a 2 yr old,in our family.My nieces baby boy.Went through 3 murder trial,to finally get a conviction.I understand drug bondage.I almost never got my sister off over taking her meds,an drinking.She drownded her pain,or so she thought in these things,an she used the loss of her G baby,as a excuse. We gave A lot of love,but a lot of tough love,an going to a judge,telling him her condition,an over use,he mandatory had a bed waiting for her.In a free ,very nice rehab,in Columbia SC,with great thearpy.She wasnt a caretaker of children,so was just distroying herself.. Thats some of my upset with Putnum co,Satsuma Fla.Which i was born a Navy child in Sanford,close to there. I am a Myrtle Beach resident,have a son,an daughter,2 grandchildren.Before my sons dad was killed with 2 of his friends,in a auto wreck,when my son was 1-now ,in March,he will be 18,an daughter happly married,for yrs,an i was blessed with 2 grands,girl,an boy.My daughter dad,died with a heart attack-my sons grandad had 54 grand children,blessings.He always raised others children,when the could not do it,from drugs,finances,or what ever-I have helped many to get off heavy drugs that were distroying them,their children,an families.some even got to the point of stealing from parents to support habit.When you ever see a parent making excuses for their children for being on drugs,an parents are,or have been dealers setting a bad example for their own,an their friends.They need to be seperated from each other,an the babies removed untill the drug user parent,proves they are clean.Never should a parent be rewarded ,by being allowed to keep their babies,an put them at risk-1 pill /2 pill/3 pills/4== (One hit,or snort,or injection,can put them at risk for Hep B/or C-or possably Hiv,because of blood prodicts,an Hep B by using straws,drinking,or risky sexual behavior,when under the drug,of choice. DR,shopping has went on for yrs,I know Donna Brock has a small place in Fla.An theres a strip of pain Management DRs,in Jacksonville,many are going,alone,or in groups,leaving with many scripts–Waiting on a crowed in a small town near here, to get busted,they just wont stop.2 have been leading many young people,an giving them meds. I just dont understand LE in Putnum,when theres Pimps-Prostitution–a SO,nonregestered-running a motel,or flop house.We have Drugs– Drug dealers,those who share their meds,when its on the bottles not to share,drive,or operate,machinery,with out knowing the effects-What has LE been doing all this time,when this is going on.Dept Childrens S.-go to these homes ,an walk away leaving these poor defencless,innocent children,in the same mess-of violence,drug use,theifing parents,missed school-The check in ,an walk away,is not getting it-if a child dies,it always we are under staffed-NOT OUR FAULT!! SO around every corner,an One talking, to another ,on the Net.About little ones 5 and/or under.Lusting after them.An speaking with his buddy,about going to the mall-to scope these babies out. Precious Haliegh has been missing a yr,An all LE can say is time line/we need time line. Or set them up,drug bust,they will talk.Listen all they need is to put a ground search out.While snakes are down,from cold-Brush,an Folage,is also down.Her little body,could be out there.I think it was an abduction/if not someone known-someone watched the trailor,an watched the going,an commings of Ron,an Misty,Rons night shift,checked a good get away plan,through the woods,an it being dark.They watched a girl child,an when the opertunity was right,snatched her.Mark Klass,said his girl,was taken while they were sleep,only 1o feet from them.If Misty had been on a party,an was now latargic,exusted from her little run. Oxycodone makes a person,sleep very deep.an teens,already sleep hard.Mine,an their friends staying over,you can clean the whole room,an believe it,they sleep through the thing,lol. who ever took sweet Haliegh knows what happened that night,an they will be caught one day-has anyone thought about the child snatched an killed,an placed in landfill,only 50,miles from there. This is a long post-forgive me for taking so much space,but im sharing. Always Praying for Haliegh,Butter bean,Cloe,all the Croslin children,an Those who i haven heard of–just think if Haliegh had not went missing,many would not know of the conduct,an drug use by many in that town. TN-im praying for you,you have shed many tears for Haliegh,an now for Ronjr.Out of many tears you have shed, it shows me the love ,broken heartedness,an sadness,with helplessness,for your G-babies. May God send peace,that surpasses,all understanding to you!!!! Good night ,an Simon,an Jan i love your talk shows. Keep us imformed!! Hydrcodone family,Are not opiats= Loritabs Loricets,an Vicodin elixers are in the Hydrocondone family==(Then Oxycodone family Percocets-Royxs,Oxys Tylox these are OPIATES) All of the above are habit forming,an must have a percription to get them, Dont drink with them,or over take- Unconsciousness,can happen,as well as overdose.DR now has a tablet that can be given in office,to stop withdrawls.Also if taken 2 weeks or more,Dr says not to go off of with out help,or weaning down. With opiats, Methadone clinics are offered for treatments,to help stop opiats.But its a substitute for the drug to me,an very dangerious. In helping people i find,if on 5 a day,next day go to 4, next to 3,an on down .Or start taking halfs,instead of whole pills,untill u are weaned down. Have Something for stomache problems handy,stay away from friends,or calling them.Have someone who will see you through it,withdrawls are bad,but much worse,much worse on opiats,an you must be weaned down.Prayers are much needed during this process.
Why didnt Ron,or Misty get offered rehab,or counseling?
Hydrocondone-is an opiat—main base in lortabs A person is an drug abuser-if inspite of repeated negative consequences,that person contenues to use drugs.This is based on studies,an trained addiction rehab specilest. good night all
You are welcome ms. P and yes Beautiful cent adams Haleighs school attendance does show the nights were long in their home. Before someone gets upset and says well Ron worked the night shift. Ron started working for PDM in October 2009. He had only been on the night shift for about 4 weeks this was stated by Teresa Neves. School began in late August. There was absolutely no excuse for all of those unexcused absences.
I meant to post Ron had only been on the night shift for about 4 weeks when Haleigh disappeared.
Hi, looking for Justice! Glad to run into you because I wanted you to know that my previous posts were not meant to quarrel with you – just add other possibilities.
I am still not clear on the source of the info that R called M 20 times. Apparently it was reported in the news but I did not hear where the info came from? Who would know that?
Around that time came, PCSO announced that T had admitted to being at the MH around 10pm that night. But I don’t see that PCSO said anything about how many times R called M. I’m just wondering; trying to separate fact from rumor.
As far as why R (may have) called M so many times and not called Ggma or left work (essentially getting himself fired) to go check on the kids: I do not think that most people would immediately jump to the conclusion that their children were in danger. It was a quarrel. Plus it was late to call ggma and if what we’re hearing now is true – that ggma was NOT happy that R let M come back – then he’d probably not want to call her and basically have to say “You were right. I can’t get her on the phone.” Just some thoughts to add to the mix.
About C saying R said she could not have the children that weekend because Haleigh could not be late for school again. It’s possible that C had not always brought the children back on Sunday nights.
It strikes me as very strange that C would say that (R’s reason for not letting her have the kids that weekend) without following it up herself with a comment like “But why would he say that? I always bring the kids back on Sunday night.” Or maybe C just didn’t question it or think to say that at the time.
Again, just adding some possibilities to the mix.
I AM SURE cRYSTAL LUVS HER CHILDREN.HOWEVER IT’S CALLED ADDICTION BCUZ IT’S JUST THAT ONE IS ADDICTED CAN’T STOP.NO MATTER HOW MUCH SHE DESIRES TO STOP IT’S VERY DIFFICULT.HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BEING WEAK,BEING DUMB,WHITE TRASH,OR NOT LUVING HERSELF OR CHILDREN.ONCE THE WITHDRAWAL[7-10DAYS] PART IS OVER THEN THERE’S THE MENTAL CRAVING.I REALLY HOPE CRYSTAL CAN GET THE HELP SHE NEEDS FOR HERSELF THEN HER LITTLE ONES.MY GOSH IT AIN’T EASY BUT POSSIBLE,WITH ALOT OF HARD WORK,AND EVEN MORE FAITH IN A HIGHER POWER[I CHOOSE TO CALL GOD].ONE GOOD THING IS IF SHE FAILS [I PRAY SHE DOESNT]THE SYSTEM IS NOT TO BLAME,CRYSTAL IS.NOT TO SAY THEY WERE TO BLAME B4.GOD BLESS HALEIGH
MORNING M2C
HOPE YER HAVING A GOOD MORNING I’M SO SICK OF BEING SNOWED IN CAN’T EVEN DRV MY TRUCK IT’S SO BAD OUT .
Hi, Pinkey!
Stay in! From what I’ve seen it’s too dangerous to drive – probably even to walk on it if it gets icy. Is more snow headed your way?
I agree about hoping C does well with the rehab. It is extremely hard, I’m sure. Your advice and support sounds good. I hope she hears it! And knows everyone is supporting her.
AW, M2C WHAT A NICE POST.I’M A RECOVERING ADDICT FROM OPIATES,AND OMG!!!!!! IT’S THE HARDEST,WORST,SCARRIEST THING I HAVE EVER GONE THRU IN MY WHOLE 33YRS. OF LIFE.WHAT PPL DON’T UNDERSTAND IS NO ONE WAKES UP N SAYS WELL I THINK IM GONNA BE A FILTHY,WORTHLESS JUNKIE TODAY LIE,CHEAT,STEAL,GIVE AWAY MY DIGNITY,AND LET EVERYONE DOWN THAT I LUV N THAT LUVS ME.I WILL SMELL LOOK DIRTY N ABANDON MY CHILDREN,OH YEAH N CONTINUE TO GET PREGNANT N USE WHILE IM PREG.SO MY PRECIOUS BABY CAN GO THRU WITHDRAWAL AT BIRTH AND MAYBE HAVE OTHER COMPLICATIONSN MORE PROBLEMS W/ DCF.
HOW MUCH SENSE DOES THAT MAKE?…NONE.I THANK GOD THAT I HAD A LOVING MOTHER TO STEP IN BCUZ THE POSITION CRYSTAL N RON R IN COULD HAVE BEEN ME.THANK GOD IT’S NOT.IF CRYSTAL WILL ONLY REALIZE NOW THAT NOW IS THE TIME TO GET CLEAN.EARN THE RESPECT OF HER CHILDREN.GET SOME EDUCATION N BCUM SELF SUFFICIENT.FLAT OUT GIVE THE DOPE THE BOOT.IT CAN BE DONE.IF I CAN DO IT ANY BODY CAN
m2c I did not take you as argumentative. I was actually emphasing on Dana Treens article that Ron had repeatedly called Tommy. We already heard about the argument Ron alledgedly had with Misty and that he called her 20 plus times and could not reach her. I will research those articles and get back to you. I am more interested in the repeated calls to Tommy Dana Treen mentions in his article. Something we have not heard about.
Pinkey, I applaud you!!!!! Thank you for telling your story. It is inspirational for anyone going through similar situations. I agree, I so hope Crystal will take this as an opportunity of a life time and not just try to beat the system. It seems to me she has been able to skirt around this issue for a long time. To me her being allowed to skirt the issue has been a huge injustice to her. If she would have been held accountable when Chloe was born maybe she would be clean today. For her sake as well as the children I hope she is forced to be accountable now.
m2c , I found the one article by Dana treen. News jacksonville.com and it was updated 1/25/2010 under the heading Mistys brother: she wasn’t home the night Haleigh vanished. I also came across one here at BNN dated 09/09 by TJ Hart. This one is very informative ( need to read). I need to go back and find the one before it that states Ronalds work hours were 4pm til 12am but chose to work over until 3. I know it is here I remember finding it before. I know HollysGmom or Tobias may already have it booked marked. These articles referring to the numerous calls to Misty from Ron.
Hello Treece how are you? Good to see you
Hi Looking, I’m doing well, been busy filing income tax. How are you doing??
We are all ready for little Haleigh to come home. Wouldn’t it be nice if she is set free and comes to her own candle lighting tomorrow!!!!! I know, wishful thinking, but all of us would be thrilled and could take a break!!!!
Treece, Amen to that!!!Keep praying!!!
Treece yer so right…I think that’s alot of the problem here if these folks had been held accountable and not been inabled things may have been different.as far back as teresa Neves and lisa/Hank Croslin.IMO T.N. n GGSykes inabled Ron,Tn maybe outta guilt 4 making mistakes in mothering Ron n GGSykes outta sympathy.Mistys parents have made alot of mistakes n Haleigh is the one paying.
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