It was with a huge amount of humor that I read the latest Art Harris EXCLUSIVE , the title screams EXCLUSIVE: “Misty No Drug Dealer!” —Dad
This tabloid headline sounds great, you could put this one on the front page of the supermarket tabloids and make a killing. Obviously Misty Croslin does have some supporters, and we should not be surprised that her dad is one of them. Unfortunately dad, Hank Croslin Sr. is hardly in the position to pass judgment or comment over his daughter.
As TJ Hart reported for WSKY 97.3 Hank Croslin Sr. is himself accused of doctor shopping, (read article) and the drugs involved were Oxycodone and Hydrocodone. Hmm, that sounds a lot like the same drugs that his daughter Misty Croslin is accused of selling!
Is this an example of the family that stays together, gets high together?
Hank Croslin Sr. goes on to say in Art Harris’s article:
“If she bought some pills, she was just doing people favors,”Hank Croslin explained. “If you know Palatka, this ain’t nothing but a cesspool of drugs and pills. But Misty’s no drug dealer!”
One wonders if Art Harris is still a hired gun? I find it hard to beleive that this is the case, but the revelations that came out in the Kim Picazio bar complaint rebuttal give you pause for thought. Is he now a ‘Media Consultant’ for Misty and Hank?
Hank saying that Misty is not a dealer sounds like rubbish to me. The police reports make it very evident that they spent at least a month of watching and talking to the young woman prior to taking any action.
Simon Barrett
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Follow-up comment rss or Leave a TrackbackIt is clearly stated in the incident reports that Misty was compensated extra for facilitating the purchases mad e by the UC. Sorry Hank Sr….it’s not just a favor for a friend if you are compensated…it is dealing.
In many states LE doesn’t even need to be “prove” that the perp has the drugs to sell…the quantity alone supports the charge….but that’s not relevant here is it? LE has audio/video of her compensation along with, “If you need anything else…”
One wonders if Art Harris is still a hired gun? I find it hard to beleive that this is the case, but the revelations that came out in the Kim Picazio bar complaint rebuttal give you pause for thought
What is that about? Someone…explain!! Thanks!
After all he is her father, what else would anyone expect “Magic Man” Hank Sr. to say? I think we all know Pops will not cop to the truth. He’s probably on pins and needles worried about his own AZZ… at least he should be!!
Boldone3 - This should answer your question
http://www.bloggernews.net/123003
Thank You Simon!!
Hank Sr. stating that Misty was doing it as a favors to friends???
Well let her tall that to the judge….what a hoot!!!
Between the Croslins and the Sheffields….all have records regarding drugs….all have passed through the revolving doors of jails at one time or another.
As was pointed out…
The family that stays together, get’s high together.
Now my attention turns to little Jr…because he is now with his bio mom…his GP & GM who all have drug records.
It this the best environment for this small child? In MO, absolutely NOT.
What a dad he says Misty is misguided but Tommy is an addict and thief. I dont think I would have said anything about either of them.
At least he didnt bash anyone else but thats all I can say about the interview. jmo
I was browsing on some sites and came across one and it occured to me that Ron cant receive calls so his interview with the reporter was because he called the reporter to talk to him. I must have had a brain fart up till now lol,jmo
I saw that the officer interviewing was john merchant. You remember that name, Ron said John Merchant was the only one of the PCSO he trusted. How ironic. jmo
Well looks like everyone must be out for the night see ya all soon.
Tobias,
It can be done… by special permission/emergency. However, LE would be right on the money by granting him such a “special gift”, if they hoped to learn something/anything. Just don’t know if they did learn anything!!!
Also what better way to cause friction/tension amongst the players by flaunting special privileges?
Tommys gonna talk soon especially since sis gave him up on the BE. jmo
tobias said,in January 30th, 2010 at 6:00 pm I saw that the officer interviewing was john merchant. You remember that name, Ron said John Merchant was the only one of the PCSO he trusted. How ironic. jmo
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Yes i remember this name and if i am not mistaking hes the one that told Ron to marry Misty. jmo
Really I didnt see that. I miss some of the articles that came out around that time and now they are hard to find. do you remember where it is? jmo
I remember Ronnie casting J. Merchant’s name about during interviews. I always wondered why it seemed like more of a boast on Ron’s part!! As if to say “Look!, I’ve been vindicated… because I have a positive relationship with John Merchant”!!
Cent, I did research on John Merchant and hes a really good cop with alot of good busts behind him. I feel John was smart enough to build trust in Ron for future use if needed. if you know what i mean. jmo
Who is John Merchant?
Google him he is a real good cop for PCSO. moo
Tobias,
Yep, I know what you’re saying.
Det. Merchant spent most of his 16 years in drug inforcement. He has made quite alot of busts not just drugs.imho
Tobias,
OK thank you for the info.
One more question who is Jerome Williams?
Hope he can get through to the rocks and jellos and find Haleigh. jmo
Big time drug dealer.
Thanks again
He is also at Putnam county jail awaiting his trial for numerous things. moo
tobias said,in January 30th, 2010 at 6:11 pm Really I didnt see that. I miss some of the articles that came out around that time and now they are hard to find. do you remember where it is? jmo
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Yes i do remember but it cant be posted here. I am sorry.
It really doesnt matter there were so many reasons being bounced around by everyone interviewed its impossible to know the real reason from the fake reason. jmo
All of this is a horrible situation. I do hope Lindsey will do the right thing for her children and herself. Now is the time for her to split. She ownes that MH and she should sell it and get out of Dodge. I also think if she moves far enough away, like South America, as she wants to do, Tommy will not be able to see the children.
Lindsay, if you’re reading, please get OUT!
A caring person.
Unfortunatly with the economy in the shape it is and the fact she has 3 kids, it would be hard, unless she has relatives somewhere. jmo
Tobias, yeah I understand what you are saying, however, I believe her father has some $$. Whatever it takes, if you love your children you will do whatever is best for them. It certainly is not living in Satsuma with this group!
If Lindsay knows Tommy did something to Haleigh and has been covering for him, I want her in jail. I believe Lindsay is the key to finding Haleigh, as she is the one with the most to lose, and hopefully will tell LE all she knows very soon.
Tobias, another thing, where ever Lindsay goes she should legally take her maiden name back. This case is world wide and it could really hamper her.
She would need to do more than that everyone knows her maiden name is Collins and knows what she looks like. I would do it just so my kids could go to school and not get bullied for any of this. jmo
This is a letter that was sent to Marie Griffis from Teresa Neves regarding the 1 year Vigils for HaLeigh.
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Letter has been removed at the request of the parties involved.
Jan Barrett
Jitterbug, how would you have gotten her letter?
Jitterbug said,in January 30th, 2010 at 7:19 pm
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How would have access to this? Please
If it’s from TN, then well-done for reaching out to that side of the family. I, personally would like to know the reason for it being posted here!!
Thanks Jan!!!
Jan Thank You.
Tobias: OK but she could legally assume another name. Like I said, she had TO DO WHATEVER SHE HAS TO DO…FOR HER CHILDREN, IF NOT FOR HERSELF!!!
Anyone who knows Marie can ask her if she received this today. If she will admit it.
Anyone who knows Teresa can ask her if she wrote it.
It is legit.
What is your purpose in publishing it, Jitterbug?
My purpose is to reach a wide audience here on BNN. I think people deserve to know the truth about what is going on with HaLeigh’s families. They should be working together to help find this baby. JMO.
Jitterbug, I would hope they would all want each and everyone of them to be there. Surely no one would be selfish enough not to invite the other side. Obviously Teresa N had notified Crystal and now Crystal won’t even return her calls and hasn’t invited her to a vigil for Haleigh. How freaking sad.
Hey Jit, I so agree with you, but the Crystal supporters have blinders on and will only see what she and Marie want them to see. I can say, the information contained in that letter is as I know to be true thus far. Sad that Marie and Crystal continue to play games instead of forming a union with the other part of HaLeigh’s family that she loves so dearly in order to try to find her. THIS at the very least should hint at the truth to those blinded by Crystal and Maries lies.. Just sayin
Searching said,in January 30th, 2010 at 8:18 pm
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Hey Searching. I agree with everyword you just said here.Blinded is right!!
Jitterbug, I find what you did disgusting.
IF the letter is genuine and it is from Teresa, it is completely inappropriate that some blogger posted it on the internet. None of us has any idea what these families have been through with each other and more importantly, it is none of our business.
I believe that it is a violation of Teresa’s trust that this letter appears here and it does nothing but cause additional friction for two families that possiblly could be trying to come together.
Even if that letter was written by someone in NY for TN,RC is in jail,how could he attend a vigil?Why would anyone want Misty and her family at a vigil for a child they might have had something to do with her disappearance?It was bad enough Jr was left alone at GGM’s while she was out of town twice,with Misty in the home.I would have been scared to leave him alone for a second.If anyone suspected Misty of having something to do with HaLeigh’s disappearance,why would she have been allowed to live in the same house with Jr for months?I don’t understand that.
Jitterbug said,in January 30th, 2010 at 8:03 pm
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This is personal between 2 people. What rock did you crawl out from under.. What were u thinking…omg
Logos, I was typing something to you and stopped myself. Some people have no f’ing right to say what the FAMILIES have been through, yues, HaLeigh has 2 sides to her family that have BOTH been thru hell and back, but that has not stopped some from calling Ron guilty on every blog they can and trashing TN every chance they get, now has it.
Well it is very sad that the family can’t pull together for Haleigh - this isn’t about them it is about Haleigh.
Well,the truth is not on the internet,the truth is that almost a year has gone by and a few tv spots defending a marriage and announcing a divorce is all that’s happened.I don’t see where either side has put forth that much effort in finding this child publicly.HaLeigh was put out of this picture about two months out from her disappearance.
I don’t see any reason why TN and GGM can’t go to the vigil,Jr would want them there.But,not sure if RC could go,but forget Misty,no way in hellooo.And especially her family.
Searching,
My point is that none of us know really know what the families have been through. Not me-not you.
IF Teresa wrote this letter to reach out to Marie, it is only damaging that some fool posted it on the internet.
Logos… I am with you!!! If TN wanted the world to know, then she can surely contact BNN herself.
And as for those that insist Crystal “supporters” are rocking “blinders”, how do you know that’s the case? People are allowed and SHOULD form their own opinions. Let’s be for real, the same CAN and HAS been said of “supporters” of Ron, and those “supporters” CAN get down right WILD. Yet, I can see/respect their points of views. This labeling bullshit needs to stop!
It’s so way over the top, it’s hard to believe that it’s not a wicked/tired subplot from outdated B-Movie.
Yes, these are my opinions and mine alone… and at this point… I’m not sure IF I care IF I offend!!!
I don’t understand the hate in peoples hearts. It should not be about one side of the family or the other, it should be about HaLeigh.
Many here have blogged terrible things and one day, I pray HaLeigh never has to read them.
Stop the hate and think about the victim and her family, because they are victims too.
WinterRose @ 8:34
If the letter is for real, it’s possible that it was written before R was arrested. “TN” says they’d been planning the 1 year mark vigil since the 10-month mark.
I’m just going to ignore it. I have never read anyone else’s mail and I’m not going to start now.
Becca2 - YOu are so so very right.
Logos, a little touchy aren’t you? You admitted to all of us that you flew to Florida to visit Marie and Crystal, you met them in Texas for the *concert* and you donated a nice sum for child support.
Since you have influence over this family, please advise them to do what is best for Junior. Your own words when asked if you think they should let TN and AS speak and visit with Junior: “Yes”
WinterRose, where did you see Misty or her family mentioned in that letter (assuming it is real-I think we all know Searching is a stand up person so I believe her)?
I wonder what would have happened if the energy, time and resources that MG & Co put into trashing R and trying to get custody of Jr had - instead - been put into trying to find Haleigh?
Would she have been found?
Maybe not. But I am certain that we would not be here discussing Crystal vs Ron issues. We would be here discussing “Where is Haleigh?”
I wonder what would have happened if the energy, time and resources that MG & Co put into trashing R and trying to get custody of Jr had - instead - been put into trying to find Haleigh?
Would she have been found?
Maybe not. But I am certain that we would not be here discussing Crystal vs Ron issues. We would be here discussing “Where is Haleigh?”
Lori,
I have not admitted those things to “all of you”. I don’t even know you and you certainly don’t know me.
None of us are in these families and we should leave these families alone and let them work things out in private.
Thank you for the comment Lori.
I am not here to argue with anyone. And I won’t do that.
I simply wanted everyone to see the truth about what is going on behind the scenes. If people want to argue with me, I will not participate. I will always do what I feel is right for HaLeigh.
Searching, I agree with you on Teresa N. I can not comprehend how so many can be mean to her in any way. She has been absolutely kinder than anyone I know could have been while going through such painful circumstances. I don’t know her but have literally grieved for her. I is beyond me how anyone could trash her. I don’t know how she has survived this past year.
m2c
You’re exactly right about that,that whole GR blitz was garbage.But,it just seems like this whole year has been mostly about Misty.Misty,Misty,Misty,glad she’s where she is,hopefully they’ll be some answers now.
Jitterbug, I can see your thinking that you meant it for Jr & Haleighs best. It is true the best thing for Jr right now is to have all his family involved in his life. I would hope Crystals love for Jr would cause her to want Teresa N and Ggm Sykes in his life. She shouldn’t make him grieve 2 more losses.
Jitterbug,
You personify one of the problems with bloggers in this case. You assume that you know what is best for HaLeigh.
You are a blogger, not a familiy member. You had no right to post a personal letter and interfere with these families.
treece said,in January 30th, 2010 at 9:23 pm Searching, I agree with you on Teresa N. I can not comprehend how so many can be mean to her in any way. She has been absolutely kinder than anyone I know could have been while going through such painful circumstances. I don’t know her but have literally grieved for her. I is beyond me how anyone could trash her. I don’t know how she has survived this past year.
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I agree, I feel so badly for Teresa
Crystal wasn’t allowed to see or talk to the kids besides the weekends every two weeks?Maybe she feels since she couldn’t talk to her children in between the visits,it’s unfair for anyone to ask and expect to be treated differently.And should go according to what the judge has specified.
As far as the vigil,that should be done together with TN and GGM for Jr.It was kind of TN to offer the candles.
We have just received confirmation that the letter from TN to MG that was posted on here is authentic. Although we do not know who it was that posted it and we do not know if Teresa Neves meant for it to go public. We apologize to her if she didn’t and if she wants it removed to please notify me at jannyo@gmail.com.
Thanks,
Jan Barrett - BNN Editor
WinterRose that simply isn’t true she could of picked up the phone and spoken with her children, she could see them beside her visitation if she chose to per the custody documents, she could of gone to school functions also if she chose to. She chose not to be involved.
I don’t know what the temporary custody order states as far as visitation goes, but I hope she will be kind enough to allow Grandma Sykes and Teresa to see JR, doesnt sound promising if she isn’t even communicating with Teresa about a vigil for her daughter.
Doesn’t surprise me. Teresa Neves playing the media again?
Crocodile tears, cry a river to manipulate.
She lets herself be interviewed, then turns on the tears.
Yeah, she wiped her dry face with a kleenex in her most recent crocodile tears for the camera session.
Now a ‘feel sorry for Teresa’ letter is made public?
I don’t think anyone had any doubt it was posted with her consent,but why?Don’t they have lawyers?I don’t understand why the custody visitations or personnal back and forth with either side have to be put out all over the internet on blogs and twitter.
Public opinion is not going to sway a judge’s decision,so why put this out for public sympathy?This is not helping to find HaLeigh,this is just adding to the circus and bloggers war on either side.It needs to just stop and let it rest,focus on finding HaLeigh.I haven’t found either side of the family to put all the focus on finding HaLeigh,the focus is on themselves.They use the public for thier non profit and foundation to get donations.No family should profit off a missing child.It’s time they all stop talking about themselves and talk about HaLeigh.
Any truth to Annette Sykes accosting Crystal after the custody hearing?
WinterRose said,
in January 30th, 2010 at 9:37 pm
Crystal wasn’t allowed to see or talk to the kids besides the weekends every two weeks?Maybe she feels since she couldn’t talk to her children in between the visits,it’s unfair for anyone to ask and expect to be treated differently.And should go according to what the judge has specified.
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I would just like to see Crystal put herself 2nd to her son. I would like for her to DO what is best for him. Causing him to suffer from the loss of 2 grandmas that have had him 95% of his life is cruel and will affect him for many years. COme on can’t the baby be the most important consideration here NOT Crystals revenge.
IT will say alot about her and where her head and heart are really at.
WinterRose said,in January 30th, 2010 at 9:37 pm Crystal wasn’t allowed to see or talk to the kids besides the weekends every two weeks?Maybe she feels since she couldn’t talk to her children in between the visits,it’s unfair for anyone to ask and expect to be treated differently.And should go according to what the judge has specified.
As far as the vigil,that should be done together with TN and GGM for Jr.It was kind of TN to offer the candles.
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I do not like doing this , but you give me no choice.
Where did you receive the information concerning Crystal and her phone calls?
What did DCF and Junior’s Guardian ad Litem recommended? Have you read the Judges orders?
If so, please, let us all have a link and read them too. Thank you.
Jason said,
in January 30th, 2010 at 9:50 pm
Doesn’t surprise me. Teresa Neves playing the media again?
Crocodile tears, cry a river to manipulate.
She lets herself be interviewed, then turns on the tears.
Yeah, she wiped her dry face with a kleenex in her most recent crocodile tears for the camera session.
Now a ‘feel sorry for Teresa’ letter is made public?
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Jason I have tried to give you the benefit of the doubt but you just removed all doubt –
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Speaking of “Exclusive”, I think you will be interested in the Florida-Times Union, Jacksonville, Fl. addressing that issue about Nancy Grace and their (Times Union) reporter Dana Treen who did the jailhouse interview with Ronald Cummings.
I am glad that Times-Union addressed this issue!
Dana Treen deserves the credit; not Nancy Grace!
http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/2010-01-30/story/theres_a_reason_nancy_graces_exclusive_sounded_familiar
Florida Times-Union vis Jacksonville.com
Jacksonville, Fl 1-30-10 7:04 p.m. EST
“There’s a reason Nancy Grace’s ‘exclusive’ sounded familiar”
treece said,in January 30th, 2010 at 10:00 pm
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So have I treece. All the info on this case is out there if everyone would do their own research.Right?
Haleigh’s grandmother Marie and her mom Crystal have enough sense to stay out of the media spotlight, and they talk straight and sensible, instead of all that ‘poor me’ and ‘my poor son’ crap Teresa Neves displays.
Neither Ron nor his mother seem emotionally stable. He rants like a maniac, and she turns on her sad, falling to pieces face every time she agrees to an interview.
I guess all are aware that “their” mission has been accomplished!!! Tonight I will not help either team take the focus off of the Inmates!!!
Have at it yall!!!!!
Becca2,
It was on WS HaLeigh threads and AH’s HaLeigh threads when KP was her lawyer.I don’t think the judges orders are available,are they?I’m not sifting through months of posts to find it.LOL
Jason said,in January 30th, 2010 at 10:09 pm
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I feel you do need to do some searching Jason on the other side.The info is there.
I don’t know what a guardian ad litem is.LOL
Jason said,in January 30th, 2010 at 10:09 pm Haleigh’s grandmother Marie and her mom Crystal have enough sense to stay out of the media spotlight, and they talk straight and sensible, instead of all that ‘poor me’ and ‘my poor son’ crap Teresa Neves displays.
Neither Ron nor his mother seem emotionally stable. He rants like a maniac, and she turns on her sad, falling to pieces face every time she agrees to an interview.
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Teresa Neves is a grandmother who is going through HELL and you have the nerve to attack her.
I feel sorry for you , because your heart is full of hate. Do you really think posting terrible things helps HaLeigh?
I don’t and I hope you think before posting such vile things again. Thank you.
Good point, beautiful adams. Diversion tactics is what the ‘letter’ seems to be all about.
Becca2 said,in January 30th, 2010 at 10:17 pm
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I dont feel sorry for him at all Becca,Hope He never has to walk in their shoes.jmo
Actually, Becca, my heart is full of love.
Teresa Neves is a schemer, she turns on the crocodile tears to manipulate.
Simon Barrett
I’m not crazy over every article Art Harris has done however he is simply relaying what Misty’s father said to him, he’s a journalist it is what he does. It is then up to the individual reader to decide their own opinion. Misty is a child talk to her when she is 30, 40 & then find out who she is with. At 17 and one of the world’s most hated people with no education due to lack or parenting where was she suppose to go? She’s staying there? Guess what I bet a good percentage of the children 17 stay at home too. Are you truly this judgmental? pop your head out of your hiny and take a look around you put your pants on one leg at a time too.
God Bless Haleigh and all her families
full of evil
I wonder if Crystal and grandma Marie would get the same sympathy if they cried crocodile tears for the camera?
I have had sympathy for Crystal and did not judge whether her tears were crocodile or not
Jason said,in January 30th, 2010 at 10:31 pm I wonder if Crystal and grandma Marie would get the same sympathy if they cried crocodile tears for the camera?
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I have saw no tears from that side ..Have you? All they can do is stare a whole thru each other or squeeze each others hands off in the videos i have saw and afraid of what the other one is gona say.imo
Anne,I’m cracking up laughing,that’s so true.LOL
Dusty Rose,
Your post helped me recall a fact that needs to be taken into consideration about Misty.
At age 17, 18, her brain is not fully developed.
My eyes are watering,oh,if looks could kill,she’d a fell over.
Seems once again Teresa Neves has proven just how diabolical and manipulative she really is. Woman has no shame, none whatsoever.
treece said,in January 30th, 2010 at 10:31 pm full of evil
To the core, both Ronald Cummings and his enabling mother.
Crystal and Marie have been caught crying on camera, true tears.
They cry appropriately, but Teresa Neves is so overboard.
No I was referring to the one who has mistaken his thunking gizzard for a heart and confused love with hate
Jason said,in January 30th, 2010 at 10:46 pm Crystal and Marie have been caught crying on camera, true tears.
They cry appropriately, but Teresa Neves is so overboard.
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Why would any tear be overboard in this case. I have even shed tears for Haleigh many tears and I dont even know this baby.
Cry appropriately?
You mean when they poke their manicured fingers into their eyes trying to produce tears, Jason? Is that your idea of appropriate tears? Because those are the only “tears” I have ever seen from either Crystal or Marie. Forced tears/forced emotions.
I think I have cried more real tears for HaLeigh than either of them have (on camera).
I wish I lived closer so that I was able to attend the vigil for HaLeigh. I hope that both sides of her family will get together and stand united for this precious child!
If Teresa Neves and Annette Sykes want to see Butterbean, they need to communcicate with Crystal about that, not the media.
The way to communicate with the mother of your grandchildren is not via a derogatory letter posted on the internet.
Jason, did you read the letter, she has left numerous messages……
This should not be about Rons side or Crystals side this should be about what is best for Haleigh and Jr.
Jason said,in January 30th, 2010 at 10:57 pm
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Talk to Jan about the letter we have nothing to do with that.That person that posted that letter dont have no feelings at all for what these familys are going thru.imo That was a bad call on their part to do such a thing. That was a personl thing imo.
LadyJGrey9, why would you deem her as being diabolical? Maybe your not aware, but originally through MG’s planning, a vigil in Baker by MG and CS, and one in Putnam by RC and TM and GGS.. That was the planing, now its changed and you call TN Diabolical for asking?
Jason, apparently, you need to put your glasses on, in every video’d interview, Marie was seen crying 1 time.. Crystal never shed a tear, with the exception of the day, ron married misty.. and that’s the facts!!!
Let me guess, Teresa Neves will now be interviewed about this letter circulating on the internet.
mlee, sadly these 2 aren’t after facts they prefer bogus bullshit
mlee said,in January 30th, 2010 at 11:00 pm
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Big Kudos to you mlee.
treece said,in January 30th, 2010 at 11:02 pm mlee, sadly these 2 aren’t after facts they prefer bogus bullshit
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Bullshit is right!!!!!
Becca and everyone else, this is the way that those standing behind Crystal choose to do her bidding, attack the Grandmother of a missing child that is going thru something most can’t even imagine. This is what I have been trying to get people to see for some time now. I hope that some will open their eyes to the truth now. So sad that a grandmother can not hurt and grieve her missing grand child without being attacked in such a hateful way. All she wants is the families to come together in prayer for HaLeigh, why is that so much to ask for. It was not TN that posted the letter here, but maybe that letter will serve as an eye opener as to what is really going on.
Jason said,in January 30th, 2010 at 11:02 pm
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You just dont know, you have NO clue about this case at all.Go do your research and see what you come up with.
Searching - that’s words of wisdom!!!!!
Jason, that letter was not derogatory, my telling you to go suck a big one is, but I would never do that, I am to kind. If you thought TN’s letter was derogatory, then you must live a sheltered life.
Well, if someone doesn’t return your repeated calls, it might be because they do not want to talk to you.
Maybe Crystal does not want to talk with Teresa. Maybe she does, but hasn’t had the time to return her calls, or hasn’t even listened to the messages.
If I couldn’t reach the mother of my granchildren by phone, I would drive to her home.
I would not write a letter and post it on the interent.
AnneInTn:
I respect you as a person, we twitter together, but to say someone crys appropriately..is so wrong, and to say a family member of a missing child is overboard is equally horrible.
If anyone here can provide the proper way for a family to cry, or not to cries, or to act when put in this circumstance, please feel free to publish such a book, because I am sure those suffering a loss would rush right out to purchase it when faced with the horror of a missing child.
Searching - lol -
Crystal does not have to invite Annette Sykes, and if she doesn’t, I am sure it is for good reason that I would agree with.
Adios, kids!
Tracian, that was Jason’s quote - you might want to re read post
Thanks, Treece
Jason said,in January 30th, 2010 at 10:46 pm Crystal and Marie have been caught crying on camera, true tears.
They cry appropriately, but Teresa Neves is so overboard.
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Why would any tear be overboard in this case. I have even shed tears for Haleigh many tears and I dont even know this baby.
Tracian said,in January 30th, 2010 at 11:09 pm
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You better go back and read all. I did not say this Jason did.
AnneInTn said
Why would any tear be overboard in this case. I have even shed tears for Haleigh many tears and I dont even know this baby.
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Me too
Oh, wait - before I head out for the evening, let me include Teresa Neves in the above.
Crystal does not have to invite Teresa Neves and Annette Sykes. If she doesn’t, I’m sure it is for a good reason, which I agree with!
Have a great evening, ya all!
Jason said,in January 30th, 2010 at 10:46 pm Crystal and Marie have been caught crying on camera, true tears.
They cry appropriately, but Teresa Neves is so overboard.
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This was His post NOT MIND!!!!!!!!!
I;m yet to find a reporter that tells a human story here, a statement from Police that does not have a bias spin that clearly comes with an agenda. No matter how harsh it is shoot it up straight from the hip. Ring leader? Donna Brock is 43, Ronald is 25, every one of these other people are older and were not threatened showed up on their own and did their own deals. Putnam LE is not this stupid I’m positive it is illegal to be that stupid or it should to be. Shoot it straight up from the hip. A good percentage of the world can take it that way, and will appreciate the honesty.
God Bless Haleigh and all her families
Tracian said,in January 30th, 2010 at 11:09 pm AnneInTn:
I respect you as a person, we twitter together, but to say someone crys appropriately..is so wrong, and to say a family member of a missing child is overboard is equally horrible.
If anyone here can provide the proper way for a family to cry, or not to cries, or to act when put in this circumstance, please feel free to publish such a book, because I am sure those suffering a loss would rush right out to purchase it when faced with the horror of a missing child.
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Jason said,in January 30th, 2010 at 10:46 pm Crystal and Marie have been caught crying on camera, true tears.
They cry appropriately, but Teresa Neves is so overboard.
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This was His post NOT MIND!!!!!!!!!
I feel sorry for Teresa, GGM Sykes, Marie & Crystal! It’s horrible what they all are going through and I pray to God that none of us ever have to go through the same. Can you imagine having a precious child disappear without a trace, no clue, and wonder where she is? Is she alive? Is she being cared for? Is she suffering? Is she dead? Dear God in heaven, that IS a living Hell!! Now Teresa & GGM Sykes has lost their son/grandson and poor Butterbean has lost his Daddy by his(Ron’s)foolishness. It’s all sad.
AnneInTn
Oh…sorry…my mistake.
post stands…but my deepest apology to Anne.
treece said,in January 30th, 2010 at 11:02 pm mlee, sadly these 2 aren’t after facts they prefer bogus bullshit
Rest assured I know the facts, and I don’t talk bogus BS either, however, sadly, I can’t say the bogus BS, you are spewing, isn’t coming from Ronald Cummings, mother.
Tracian said,in January 30th, 2010 at 11:25 pm AnneInTn
Oh…sorry…my mistake.
post stands…but my deepest apology to Anne.
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Aplology aceppted.
In re: AnneInTn said, in January 30th, 2010 at 6:08 pm
(quoting post by tobias said,in January 30th, 2010 at 6:00 pm}
I saw that the officer interviewing was john merchant. You remember that name, Ron said John Merchant was the only one of the PCSO he trusted. How ironic. jmo
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AnneInTn responded:
Yes i remember this name and if i am not mistaking hes the one that told Ron to marry Misty. jmo
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Really??! John Merchant REALLY told Ron to marry Misty?! ?
btw - How did this “scoop” come to light?
TIA…. unless it came out of FOTY’s mouth.
LFlorida said,in January 30th, 2010 at 11:31 pm
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As I told tobias, I cant and want answer that question .
Jason said,
in January 30th, 2010 at 11:16 pm
Oh, wait - before I head out for the evening, let me include Teresa Neves in the above.
Crystal does not have to invite Teresa Neves and Annette Sykes. If she doesn’t, I’m sure it is for a good reason, which I agree with!
Have a great evening, ya all!
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No they don’t but Marie professes to be a “christian” and it’s the Christian thing to do. Since Crystal lived with Teresa for a long time when she was a young teen and probably was more of a mother than Marie was because she was with her new man Johnny Jack Lauramore, who was her uncle by marriage,she shouldn’t treat Teresa this way. Nor should she be keeping Jr. from his primary grandma he had his whole life, that is also wrong.
Jason said,
in January 30th, 2010 at 11:02 pm
Let me guess, Teresa Neves will now be interviewed about this letter circulating on the internet.
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you guess wrong.
Jason said,
in January 30th, 2010 at 10:23 pm
Actually, Becca, my heart is full of love.
Teresa Neves is a schemer, she turns on the crocodile tears to manipulate.
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you are full of crap.at least Teresa cries without having to poke her finger in her eyes
Why would they Plan a Vigil for a missing child 2 months out from her 1 year missing date? Did Ron know she was not going to be found in those 2 months? Just sayin……
Becca2 said,
in January 30th, 2010 at 9:58 pm
WinterRose said,in January 30th, 2010 at 9:37 pm Crystal wasn’t allowed to see or talk to the kids besides the weekends every two weeks?Maybe she feels since she couldn’t talk to her children in between the visits,it’s unfair for anyone to ask and expect to be treated differently.And should go according to what the judge has specified.
As far as the vigil,that should be done together with TN and GGM for Jr.It was kind of TN to offer the candles.
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I do not like doing this , but you give me no choice.
Where did you receive the information concerning Crystal and her phone calls?
What did DCF and Junior’s Guardian ad Litem recommended? Have you read the Judges orders?
If so, please, let us all have a link and read them too. Thank you.
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the only place this info came from is Marie, Crystal and Kim.
Vaquera said,in January 30th, 2010 at 11:49 pm
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Kudos to you too!!!!!!
So what is basically being said here is… Crystal needs to take the high road, forget about the many insults TN hurled her way, forget about the insults AS hurled her way, forget about what Ronald put her through time and time again, just forget it all?
Crystal has every single right on this planet to not include this lunatic family in the vigil. Where was all this passion in the past? Perhaps if TN led by example, apologized to Crystal for the many hurtful things she has said in the past, perhaps then Crystal should be expected to take the high road. Until then and only then, I believe Crystal is well within her rights to nix that family. YUCK, who would want them around anyway? So TN can hog the limelight and shed her fake tears, hook her jaw and say the same crap over and over? Now she turns her spew towards Misty. Hmmm, when does TN ever hold her 26 year old son accountable? Does she ever hold him responsible for any of his messes?
I don’t blame Crystal one damn bit. Maybe if TN had taken this approach a long time ago, things would be different. Now Crystal holds the cards and TN is losing her mind that she is not in control and that her rotten grown man son is looking at hard time. I say “c’est la vie” that’s the breaks TN. Ain’t karma a bitch? Funny thing, you can’t rig karma like they do over at the Art Harris website Teresa, in real life it doesn’t work that way toots.
Stay strong Crystal, fight the fight, stay clean and show these arrogant haters what kind of person you really are! You won’t see her looking at hard time for selling drugs, banging a teenage boy and chopping off rats heads, bet my life on it.
*My opinions.
So,are you saying we didn’t get it from the boards when we were all posting together?Are you trying to say I’m Crystal or Marie or Kim now,because I don’t think any parent should profit off thier missing baby?What’s your point?You were there when we were all reading it together.We’ve even talked about it.
Also, thanks for the articles and info Simon and Jan. You’re so right about Nancy disGrace. She didn’t even have the decency to credit Dana Treen and put his name on the screen, she used “reporter” when captioning the interview. How egotistical is THAT?
WinterRose,
Did you even read what Kim Picazio wrote about Crystal. She did not even try to see her kids and could have seen them more if she wanted to do so, she was allowed calls but did not make those calls.
Give me a break. She took an intrest when Haleigh went missing and at that point in my opinion she put Crystal first and Haleigh last.
Pray for Junior. If it is true that this family is not letting him see the grandparents that have raised him and that he has lived with all this time, this is proof, she should NOT have this child. She does not care about him at all. If she does not let him see TN and GS. Ron is in Jail. What harm could come of it?
The child has lost his sister, his father, the only mother he had and now he is in a new home with a drug mom whose own mom says all she does is watch T.V, who gave birth to a drug addicted baby and crashed he car while on drugs with that baby in the car and they have such hate that they do not let this boy see these women? If this is true, they SHOULD NOT have this child.
what has Teresa said that was ever negative towards Crystal? links please
treece said, in January 30th, 2010 at 8:10 pm
Jitterbug, I would hope they would all want each and everyone of them to be there. Surely no one would be selfish enough not to invite the other side. Obviously Teresa N had notified Crystal and now Crystal won’t even return her calls and hasn’t invited her to a vigil for Haleigh. How freaking sad.
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Poor old Teresa. Sounds like all the $hit she pulled on Haleigh’s mother all these years might finally be coming around to bite her right square in her ample a$$. And after the TURRBLE week or so she’s had. Poor, poor pitiful Teresa. I feel so sorry for her.
If, TREESE, if your ex-SoIL/dd’sSO and his new g/f had “vanished” your g’baby, would YOU *not* hold some animosity toward him and his protective family - who had their new “friends” from the internet go on a scorched earth campaign to besmirch your daughter and insinuate that YOUR FAMILY had kidnapped your g’daughter?
Personally, I would put as much distance between them and mine as possible because if I got close enough, I’d have to have a smack-down with MzTee and grANNIE.
Them STALLINGS/SQUIRES/SYKES WOMEN havE all the balls in that family. imo. And not a lick of sense. Not a good combo, IMO.
Vaq, nothing. And I bet there is plenty she could say. She has always taken the high road with the other side of HaLeigh’s family & I respect her for that. I wish that all of HaLeigh’s family would have worked together since Day 1. Maybe HaLeigh would be home by now. I think that this letter is a very beautiful gesture on Teresa’s part & I hope that the Sheffield/Griffis family will take her up on it and they will work together. No one has to like each other, but they should all try to respect that they are all HaLeigh’s family and HaLeigh loves all of them. To me, HaLeigh is what is important. If they cannot put aside whatever feelings they have for each long enough to pray for that beautiful child, that is sad.
While HaLeigh is not with them physically right now, there is still Junior to think about. This has to be so hard for him. I’m sure it would be very helpful for him to see all his loved ones together. I hope that he is not being kept away from the family he has lived with for almost his entire life. That would be very psychologically damaging for a little guy who is already missing his sister. I hope the families can put aside their differences for an hour or two and pray for the safe return of their beautiful HaLeigh!
If you haven’t followed the case enough to know what TN has said and insinuated about Crystal over the past year, that’s on you, not me. You can google it yourself.
J
What is psychologically damaging is surrounding Jr with lunatics. A teenage bride, Tommy Croslin, a father who is more concerned about selling dope, a grandmother who is too busy throwing every teenage girl Ron dates under the bus, never holding her own son accountable. Living with a mad man (in my opinion) for all these years has been psychologically damaging enough, let Crystal have a turn and watch that boy grow into a strong young man. Where he was, he didn’t have a prayer in h-e-l-l. Maybe this way, he will and he can breathe a sigh of relief, knowing he can let his guard down, FINALLY. Let the boy be a boy and enjoy his new surroundings, its’ got to be better than the past 12 months he has had to endure.
Um,Atta Boy,do you know anything about all the relatives?Alrighty then,myspace is a good start.Anyhow,TN and GGM are his grandparents,he needs and loves them in his life,no matter who has him.
And I will agree with you WinterRose, however it is Jr that needs to see them, not Crystal. So all the hubbub about this vigil is just a bunch of bull. Let Jr see his grandma’s at visitation, the vigils do not need anymore drama and you can bank on it that drama would ensue if these two families got together. Regardless if it is for Haleigh’s sake or not, Crystal needs to stay far away from these toxic people. TN should have thought long and hard before shooting her mouth off time and time again. MY opinion.
I wasn’t talking about the vigils,actually people coming from all over can’t be stopped from arguing online.I don’t know if the atmosphere from both sides(bloggers),would be for HaLeigh,actually,sad,but true.But,Jr loves all his family and needs them in his life.
And that LEvi needs to stop talking smack about GGM tonight,he’s ticking me off and needs to back up off of her.
Yes, Winter, I agree with you. Levi is spouting things about Annette that he cannot back up. Bad form.
And Junior deserves to have all his family in his life. It is very wrong, IMO, for Crystal to keep his grandmothers from him if she is doing that. If it is true that she is not answering Teresa’s phone calls, I think that is so wrong. Put your child first. He needs all the love he can get right now from all his family members.
To “atta boy”. I will not comment on the atmosphere that Junior is in right now.
I can appreciate that J, because you do not know the atmosphere Jr is in right now and I am pretty sure it’s a hell of a lot better than the one he came from. Like I said before, pretty doubtful you will see Crystal with a teenie bopper boyfriend, selling drugs and looking at years in prison. Ronnie boy is right where he has belonged for a very, very long time. May justice be swift and sweet.
atta boy, you know about Crystal’s environment?
If you say yes, I will not ask further questions because it’s doubtful I’ll get honest answers.
TIA.
Atta Boy Ronnieeeee, I agree with every word you’ve written here! Why in the world would Crystal want to hold a vigil for her missing daughter with the VERY PEOPLE WHO LOST that daughter and made her life a living hell both before and after HaLeigh vanished? These are the same people who proclaimed that Misty was “the best girlfriend Ron’s ever had” and that Crystal’s children loved Misty “more than they love their mother”?
Where were Teresa and Annette when those children were being cared for by drug-dealing Ron and his drug-dealing underage girlfriend Misty? If they were the wonderful grandmas so many claim they are, why didn’t they stop enabling Ron & Misty and open their eyes to what was going on? Why didn’t one of them watch the children that night when they knew Misty had been gone for three days & she and & Ron were up all night “talking”? (yeah, right). If one of those grandmas had stepped up, maybe HaLeigh wouldn’t be missing now.
It is always Christian to speak the truth, though very often the truth hurts. And the truth is, the Cummings/Sykes/Croslins are as toxic as they come. Kudos to you for telling it like it is.
JMO, of course.
That’s a failed argument J. Just because you have no rebuttal, does not mean you can use the tired old prhase of “do you know…” Has Crystal been arrested lately? Did Crystal marry a teenager who was last seen w/her daughter? Did Crystal deal drugs lately? Has Crystal announced to the world that she will KILL whoever has Haleigh? And this is the coward you want raising Jr? OMG, talk about honest answers!
While Crystal is no saint, she has not been in the news over and over for the trouble Ron has, yet Ron continues to state he will never give up on Haleigh, huh? Well now, how will Ronnie boy find Haleigh while he is locked up in the pokey? If Haleigh is indeed his heart, what in sam hell was he doing out selling dope? Did he think he had a permanent get out of jail free card? How anyone can defend this coward is beyond me, but everyone is entitled to their opinion. At least Crystal is trying, can you say the same for Ronnie buooooooy? Nope, didn’t think so.
Doesn’t matter anyway, Ron is in jail, Crystal is not and that is the way karma comes back and bites one in the arse. God is watching and though Haleigh hasn’t been found, he wasn’t going to let one more day go by with Jr being in that environment and all the arguing and debating in the world won’t get Ronald Cummings out of jail, where he certainly belongs. In MY opinion, of course
So, vaq, Teresa really sincerely wants to participate in the Macclenny vigil?
attaboy…you might not see her with a teeny bopper, but sadly, she thought it was ok to have a relationship with, and a child with, her crack addict brother. And she lives with a mother who has no problems selling drugs with kids around. I feel he’d be much safer with GMN & GGMS. I do hope she doesn’t get high and start swinging machetes again.
I feel bad for Jr. Crystal is practically a stranger to him, and he’s lost the family that he lived with.
Thanks Lingo and I 100% agree with everything you have said as well. It’s a sad day when TN and AS lose control and lose control they did. It appears to me that TN wrote that letter after her beloved son was tossed in the clink, now she is scrambling like mad to cover her family’s butt, how ironic. Too bad she didn’t show this concern early on, remember when Crystal was wrapping her arms around TN, comforting her while she was hooking her jaw with the fake croc tears for the cameras? Pffft. All her hatred and anger is coming back to bite her in the biscuits and that is not Crystals fault, although she would LOVE to blame everything on Crystal. Thing is, TN KNOWS if she is not in on Crystal’s camp for the vigil, she will get less press and more negative comments for her coward sons behavior. If she gets in on Crystal’s vigil, then she gets to claim her stake as the worried Grandmommy and deflect all questions on why her drug infested son isn’t at the vigil and why he is rotting in prison. She can’t win if she’s not with Crystal. LOL, she knows her vigil will be EMPTY because the jig is up and Ron is finally where he belongs. Thank GOD Jr is now safe and away from him and Misty, the teenage thug.
My own opinions.
Me, grab a dictionary and look up the term “BROTHER”. You must have gone to the same school Misty did. Brother means you have blood ties and, as everyone on this planet except yourself knows, Crystal was with her mothers’ husbands son. Have you not followed this case at all? Dear me, I hope you have time to catch up!
You might wanna look up what a step brother is Atta…you don’t need blood ties. In my world, sisters don’t have sex with their brothers, whether blood related or not. Particularly when you have young children and that “brother” uses crack.
So…seeing you know everything, what does her new boyfriend do for a living. I hope she doesn’t have a kid with him too, but I’m guessing she will.
Me, ahhhh, but you didn’t state “step brother” in fact, reread your post, you said brother. So next time, please clarify because the two are not one in the same.
If she does have a kid with him, you can bet your trailer that she won’t *lose* the child. Unlike Ron & Misty. You can bet she won’t land in the clink and you can bet that her new boyfriend isn’t jailbait. Another charge that Ron avoided. Yep, he’s where he belongs and Jr is where he belong, with love surrounding him and most importantly, SAFE.
Deny.
Distract.
Denigrate.
Dismiss.
Delay.
Destroy.
Whatever it takes to keep the world from looking at R/A/T.
What are you gonna tell little Jeremiah? You have shown nothing but disgust and contempt for his mother, That’s bad enough, but Jeremiah does not deserve the hurt he is going to feel when he finds out the truth - and mark my words, gma T, he already knows some of it. No child should have to live with such secrets.
Thank GOD Almighty that Rjr is out of that poisonous atmosphere.
NO kid is safe around crack Atta…wake up.
oops, forgot to add
Defend
Hey Atta Boy, thanks for the response! Appreciate your thoughts, and agree 100%.
Hey Me: Crystal is engaged to Chad, and yes, they have a child together, little Chloe. Have you followed this case at all? CHas was certainly employed last year and I believe he still is. And Marie’s drug-selling days were nearly 20 years ago–that’s how long she’s been clean. Look it up. Again, do you know any of the facts of this case?
As far as Crystal “practically being a stranger” to Jr.–are you kidding?? Didn’t you ever notice (or maybe not, since you seem to know very little about this case) that practically the only pictures in which this little boy EVER smiles are the ones in which he is with Crystal, or HaLeigh, or both? Crystal is his MOTHER, for goodness sake, and you can bet that he KNOWS that with every fiber of his little being.
LFlorida said,
in January 31st, 2010 at 1:10 am
So, vaq, Teresa really sincerely wants to participate in the Macclenny vigil?
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that’s what she said in the letter, florida.
LFlorida…actually, KP, Crystal & Marie have already admitted to using those tactics…and I believe Haleigh would have been found long before now had they not done that. You ought to be ashamed for continuing with the mission. You were all busted for your hateful lies months ago. Anything to divert attention away from Haleigh being found…pathetic.
I can only guess some man has left you real bitter and you are now taking it out on Ron. There are more constructive ways to deal with your hate…counselling can help with that.
Sorry, should read “CHAD was certainly employed last year,” not CHas.
Atta Boy Ronnieeeee said,
in January 31st, 2010 at 12:21 am
If you haven’t followed the case enough to know what TN has said and insinuated about Crystal over the past year, that’s on you, not me. You can google it yourself.
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I have followed the case very closely since day one and have never heard Teresa or Ron ever say a bad word about Crystal so I don’t need to google anything and since you can’t provide the links saying so I will say you are either wrong or just making crap up
Lingo…all lies.
Check Marie’s record…not 20 years ago! Nice try.
She WAS engaged to Chad. I don’t think he worked a day in his life. Certainly have seen no evidence of it. Smoking crack was his thing. She has a new boyfriend now. Keep up.
Crystal saw the kids every 2nd weekend. I saw just one pic of her with the kids, and it looked to be photoshopped. She used her money for drugs, and refused to pay child support.
Lies, lies, lies. You don’t fool me. I thought you guys finished your hateful campaign of lies.
lingo123 said,
in January 31st, 2010 at 1:30 am
Hey Atta Boy, thanks for the response! Appreciate your thoughts, and agree 100%.
Hey Me: Crystal is engaged to Chad, and yes, they have a child together, little Chloe. Have you followed this case at all? CHas was certainly employed last year and I believe he still is. And Marie’s drug-selling days were nearly 20 years ago–that’s how long she’s been clean. Look it up. Again, do you know any of the facts of this case?
As far as Crystal “practically being a stranger” to Jr.–are you kidding?? Didn’t you ever notice (or maybe not, since you seem to know very little about this case) that practically the only pictures in which this little boy EVER smiles are the ones in which he is with Crystal, or HaLeigh, or both? Crystal is his MOTHER, for goodness sake, and you can bet that he KNOWS that with every fiber of his little being.
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lol, try 1997. 20 years ago she was married to Marty. 2003 she was living with Johnny Jack who she got busted with and had her youngest child by.
1997-07-28 1 ARREST REPORT - POSSESSION OF CANNABIS, POSSESSION WITN
1997-07-28 1 INTENT TO SELL OR DELIVER, MAINTAINING A DRUG DWELLING,
1997-07-28 1 POSSESSION OF DRUG PARAPHERNALIA
sorry that should read 1997 she was living with JJ Lauramore.2003 she was with Bruce
Vaquera said,in January 31st, 2010 at 1:44 am
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And she spent a year in prision.
Ah, I see, in re-checking the court site, Marie’s record is from 13 years ago. I said “nearly 20″; should have said “nearly 15.”
You’ve never heard Teresa or Ron say a bad word about Crystal? Then clearly you missed all the video interviews of Teresa done by Art Harris. Those are available on his web site or on YouTube. Ron’s comments about Crystal are in a number of his appearances on Nancy Grace, also available on YouTube.
Not trying to fool you about anything; you’re doing a great job of fooling yourself.
anyone here from Fl in baker co?
lingo & atta…do you know when Crystal’s sis is getting out of prison?
she’s out, has been for a couple of weeks.
Anyone know when Ron Cumming’s sister is getting out of jail?
Anyone know when Ron Cummings’ uncle is getting out of jail, or did they let him out a couple months ago?
Anyone know when Ron Cummings’ girlfriend is getting out of jail?
I am just checking out the Griffis family criminal history at Baker County court records….WOW!!!
George (Glen St Mary address) - numerous charges including theft, cocaine, battery, and TRESPASS charges.
Elick (Glen St Mary address) - aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, harrassing communications, disorderly intoxication, trespass, marijuana, leaving the scene of accident, felony battery and numerous other batteries.
Jared (Macclenny address) - 2 x aggravated assault with a deadly weapon (one in 2008, one in 2009), aggravated assault with intent to commit felony
Quentin (Macclenny) - aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, felony battery, affray, marijuana, leave scene of accident
Sheila (Macclenny) - theft, battery, child abuse, trespass, drug paraphanelia, loitering/prowling
Tommy (macclenny) - aggravated battery, resist officer with violence etc
And there are soooooo many more, but I’m tired of typing them out! You can find them at this link
http://www.bakercountyfl.org/clerk/
They were not convicted of all of the charges above, but those were just some of their charges. It’s no wonder they dug up that yard looking for Haleigh.
Does anyone know how these people are related? Odd that that side has never been looked at, yet we know all about all of Ron’s cousins petty stuff. Wow, re the # of assault with deadly weapon charges.
How about Ron Cummings? Anyone know when he’s getting out of jail?
He might think he’s getting out in 40-50 years or so, cause while in jail, he made a terroristic threat about killing an un-named person, even if he had to wait that long to do it.
And, Helen & Chad are back in Court over child support issues…I can’t figure out who the petitioner was.
Jason..you sound a bit jealous of Ron. I’m sure he’s not the first parent to vow to kill someone who took their child. It’s a pretty normal reaction in the circumstances. What would you wanna do, kiss the perp?
Ha ha, trying hard to rationalize his unusual behavior, sing praises of him?
You sound like a maternal lover of Ronnies’.
Defender of Ronnie? Why the strong need to defend the boy?
Being passionately called to bed, so the board is yours, sweety.
Now…. I have been Officially & Completely weirded out!!! I’ll retire and go watch one of my fav shows… MI5. Hope you all will be kinder tomorrow.
Jason…are you a lover of Crystal’s…or a wannabe one?
I was just reading an article from June in the Baker County Press and it says that in addition to driving a school bus (how a woman who raised kids in a drug house is allowed to drive a school bus is beyond me!) she is raising a 10 year old girl? WTH? Do we know who’s child that is? How many people live on that property?
If this was a planned diversion….It worked exceedingly!! If an honest attempt to build a better foundation for a relationship between all parties, I think Crystal should at least consider it.
WHat a fantastic way to forget what the article was even about….I have to say I am having hard time remembering what this article was really about….after reading the battle over “the letter”.
THing is this….WE ALL don’t really know them, one way or another. All we know is what we are told, all the way around. No matter who it is we want to defend or attack. We don’t really know what Crystal’s relationship with her kids was, we don’t really know what TN’s relationship with CS was but we can sort of guess by past statements, which were not direct attacks but left an impression still. None of us can say WHO cried real tears. Look at videos of other people crying in the news. THe actual trears & tear tracks aren’t always apparent, no matter who it is. THink about this…if you were going on TV, you’re shot at getting your child’s (daughter/son/grand child) information out to the world….do you want to bea blubbering mess (not saying anyone was or wasn’t) or would you want to retain some composure so that you can actually speak and be able to convey the information clearly? This battle over tears is just ludicris. It means nothing one way or another. Why? Because we ALL know that most tears are shed in PRIVATE. SO none of us know how many buckets ANYONE else has cried. THat means it can not be compared and is silly to try to. WHether TN, CS, MG, RC or any one else.
Now, no matter what Crystal decides, we will never know for sure. Even if she says yes, if TN & Ron don’t show, they can make it seem like her fault and hence more public annimosity. I’d like to think this wouldn’t happen since the occasion is such a somber one, but is still a possibility. Just how is Ron going to be there? He must be getting bail soon or is he getting special dispinsation due to the occasion? Maybe that’s a question for PCSD. Did you notice how it was worded? That Crystal could “stand beside Ron”…..what??? At her own planned vigil? Why didn’t TN ask if she was even willing to much less ask her if Ron could stand by her? SOmething like “It would be really nice to be there and I wanted to know if you and Ron could STAND TOGETHER for Haleigh” not “stand by Ron”. DO you see how one sided it sounds? It seems there is enough supporters on BOTH sides to make 2 vigils, as this thing will never end. Even if Haleigh comes home, there will still be division amongst the family members. I think that before TN & CS can even start to have a relationship, even just for the kids, that there has to be apologies on all sides and a concerted effort to make positive changes, for all of them. I also think it is not something that is gonna happen in 1 WEEK!!! Would they have extedned the offer to combine vigils if RC wasn’t arrested last week (or so) ? I’m not sure and none of us can ever say.
It scares me to think what Haleigh would come back to. How would she ever be able to deal with this familial nightmare, after all SHE has been through? Is ANYONE considering that as they war back and forth? Even us here? The time has come for both sides to lay down their swords of Rightousness and to really take steps to try to find a place of peace & mutual respect. No matter who did what, they need to find it in themselves to make the effort.
What many are ignoring is the fact that it is ridiculous and antagonistic for the Griffis/Sheffields to be having the Palatka service, particularly when they know that the Cummings already planned one. Can you imagine the uproar from the Crystal supporters if the Cummings had planned to hold a vigil in Maclenny? My goodness. It is in such bad taste to do what they are trying to do.
I must say, the more people come on here on the “trash Ron” mission (geez, I thought it ended when KP gave everyone up), the more suspicious I become of Crystal’s side of the family.
Crystal was given full custody of her son.Was she the only one asking for custody?If so why didn’t Ron’s Mom or Grandmother ask for custody?And if both sides were asking for custody for whatever reason the Judge decided it is in J.R.’s best interest to be with the mother.I pray for Haliegh and little J.R. and in the end “ONLY GOD WILL JUDGE”Isn’t that what Ron had put on the back window of his truck?This is almost finished.
“joy wray”
It’s a shame they can’t work it out…. but
I don’t think this is really about a vigil, they wouldn’t have to fight about. Just hold your own in your own territory, and be done with it, say no more about it.
oops…didn’t mean to post that above…I thought I hit enter in the google window.
It seems Joy Wray is now friends with Marie…she has a youtube video up of her opening a care package of haleighbug stuff Marie sent her earlier this month. First they befriend Dominic Casey, now Joy Wray….things that make you go hmmmmm.
listening said,in January 31st, 2010 at 3:44 am
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Crystal Sheffield, the mother of Haleigh and Ronald Jr., has been granted temporary custody of her son Ronald Cummings Jr. after an emergency shelter hearing Thursday. The hearing was held after the arrest of the boy’s father Ronald Cummings Sr. on drug charges.
Cummings had custody of his son prior to the emergency hearing. Permanent custody to Crystal Sheffield would have to be determined in another custody hearing.
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/mostpopular/news-article.aspx?storyid=151021&provider=top
Just read up to Jitterbug’s posting of the possible letter from Teresa to Marie.
Gotta respond.
Jitterbug thinks the two sides of family should be “working together to find Haleigh” (not a perfect quote but I’m peeved right now.
The time has passed for these two families to work together.
Ron chose Misty over Haleigh (and over Jr. in my opinion).
Ron is in jail, going to prison most likely for his stupidity.
If I were Crystal and Marie, I would tell the Cummings to shove it.
Morning, Folks!
I had to put on my “hip-high waders” so to speak to slog thru all the manure that was spread around in here last night – thanks to Atta B, Jason, LFlorida, lingo123 etc. My gosh, you all can put out a LOT of that stinky stuff! No wonder you had to come out of your “caves” to spew. It must be downright foul in there! Lol! Try “Imodium.” I hear it really works!
I was trying to figure out why all this manure is being spewed again and then I read stg’s post @ 4:03 am which quoted the actual news report and the light bulb went on! Crystal has onlytemporary custody so far. So are Marie & Co doing what they do best? What they’re really famous for? Going on the net and spreading the dung? Or maybe there is some other reason for such deliberate hatefulness and lies?
And once again, we are being distracted from the answer to “Where is Haleigh?” Is there a reason that the Crystal Camp is doing this AGAIN? Any ideas? Do they already KNOW where Haleigh is? Do they CARE?
Or maybe it is not directly related to the bio-mom’s side at all. Maybe it is just vicious hateful mean-spirited people taking their “virtual” baseball bats to strangers on the net? Could you please consider purging yourselves of such venom on some other topic? NOT one about a missing little girl? If you can’t talk politics (although you apparently don’t need to know what you’re talking about anyway), then try a site about competing football teams or who should win American Idol or whatever. Don’t dump on a site about Haleigh. Please.
Personally I think all three children (Haleigh, Jr and Chloe) are unfortunate having the parents they do. We don’t need to make it worse for them.
Now, WHERE IS HALEIGH?
why let the letter get on the internet Teresa, shows what your intentions really are, this is all to make YOu and Ronnie look good isn’t it. Won’t work…everyone sees you for what you are and hopefully now Jr won’t be influenced by any of your family. Everyone sees you and your family for what they are now. Jr is young enough that if Crystal keeps him away long enough he won’t even remember them.
m2c - I respect your opinion.
This is a huge mess and I’m disgusted by every single adult.
I haven’t seen what Crystal and Marie are up to, but Ron’s the one behind bars right now, leaving Junior alone and at the mercy of the court system. The same system that hasn’t seemed to take Haleigh’s and Jr.’s best interests to heart since their birth.
You would think that after losing one kid, that parents would rise to the occasion and protect the kids they have left.
I’m sorry if this offends, but Ron’s actions since Haleigh’s been missing are not the actions of a guilt-free parent. Something is up, most likely having to do with drugs.
(let’s not forget Jordan. Isn’t that Ron’s third child? Are there more?)
whitney, please read post at 7:51 am
one thing that strikes me: is Ron the ONLY male in his family? Where are all of the other males?
ok, I am neutral - not part of any camp, except Haleigh’s.
But gotta ask: why do people think that Haleigh’s mother and that side of the family don’t have a right to plan a 1 year vigil?
Ron is in jail. He gave up that right when he got arrested, imo.
HollysGmom said, in January 31st, 2010 at 3:28 am: - It scares me to think what Haleigh would come back to. How would she ever be able to deal with this familial nightmare, after all SHE has been through? Is ANYONE considering that as they war back and forth? Even us here? The time has come for both sides to lay down their swords of Rightousness and to really take steps to try to find a place of peace & mutual respect. No matter who did what, they need to find it in themselves to make the effort.
m2c♥ said, in January 31st, 2010 at 7:51 am: -Personally I think all three children (Haleigh, Jr and Chloe) are unfortunate having the parents they do. We don’t need to make it worse for them.
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Amen, ITA.
I don’t think the only intent in posting this letter was to let people “know what was going on” but also to start more drama and fighting on this board and all the other ones that will pick the posting up. To see fighting about the families and the insults that will be thrown to one another. The poster can now spend thier Sunday going from board to board reading all the nasty things people are throwing at each other. The poster can sit back this day and feel realy good that they posted this in the name of information. Look what you did. You will be famous today. All in the name of information. Be proud.
Hi, protectkidz!
I guess I’m at the point where when Crystal is bashed for something I can see bashing the other side for something similar. Neither parent has been what any of us would call a “good” parent. For example, I do not see Crystal’s drug use, former choice of husband (crack-user) and giving birth to a baby with drugs in her system as “rising to the occasion” of the needs of the two children she already had. I could go on about Crystal. Then someone else can go on about Ron.
It’s a useless waste to me. It only harms the children (IMO) more than they’ve already been harmed.
I pray that Crystal takes advantage of this opportunity to be a real mom to her kids. I pray that Ron grows up and if he ever gets out of jail will mend his ways. I’m praying this for all the kids. (Not sure if Jordan is his, but I’ll include him anyway). But do you see what I’m trying to say?
If anyone really does have the children’s best interests at heart they won’t write the crap (true or not) that has been written because these children (hopefully including Haleigh) will grow up, will read this filth, and will have every right to hate people for this and who knows what toll on their characters and personalities and futures that will take?
Maybe they will choose to be better people than their parents. But with this kind of negativity as a foundation I’m afraid they may be so hurt or so damaged from this that they will choose to be (or not be able to prevent themselves from becoming) worse.
I don’t want to be even partly responsible for that. Unfortunately I already am because I wanted to see their father treated fairly and I was glad the truth about their mother came out - so people would know the truth. But we still don’t know the whole truth. We probably never will. We’re only heaping more damage on these kids. And it is NOT helping to find Haleigh.
peggy - I agree.
m2c: I haven’t stayed updated in this case, mostly due to the infighting on boards with ALL of the cases lately.
Just went back and read the updates of Crystal’s drug use and Kim P.’s flipflopping.
Please excuse any posts I’ve made that have seemed to defend Crystal. I see now that she is just as much of a danger to any minor children in her care as the other side.
All who have posted that these children are in danger are correct, imo.
Be that as it may and to get back to the subject of Haleigh’s disappeance, I don’t think that this case will be solved as it seems that those who are integral to the case are being protected for whatever reasons, most likely drugs.
m2c: regarding the kids finding posts online about their parents, I would bet that they will be hearing many, many things about their parents and others as they grow up. Kids they go to school with will be discussing this forever.
These kids were handed this stigma by every adult in their lives, with a bow on top.
What is written online will be nothing compared to the ugliness they will live with on a daily basis, imo.
I just got back for Palatkla Friday afternoon and thought to myself while I was driving in Satsuma how creepy it felt. The Sheirffs Headquarters was full and so many white cover cover cars.
I’m not sure if if was on here someone asked where Ron’s father was? You can find him In “the Hide a way” local bar.
protectkidz:
That’s very likely true.
I know you didn’t mean it like this, but I’m sure some think this way - “everyone is doing it” is no excuse. It’s like if 20 people were beating up a guy and another person says, “so what difference does one more make?” and starts beating him up too. It does make a difference.
And for those who think “the damage is already done.” Maybe. Maybe not. Maybe WE can help turn things around. I think it’s possible.
I think it would mean a lot to those kids to know that people stopped beating up their parents and started praying for all of them - especially Haleigh.
m2c: I have asked myself this morning, how long has it been since anyone from Haleigh’s family has mentioned Turner Syndrome?
I’ve always stood by “actions speak louder than words” and no one’s actions have added up.
m2c: my only hope for all of these kids is that somehow, someday, they find a way to get the hell out of there.
The place is a hopeless quagmire.
protectkidz: I don’t know how to judge - and at this point I don’t want to judge - what each side of the family has or has not said or done or could have done differently or better. Even their future actions or lack of.
Our only hope it seems, in finding Haleigh, lies with LE and we can only pray they’re on the right track and succeed.
protectkidz, you said, “my only hope for all of these kids is that somehow, someday, they find a way to get the hell out of there. The place is a hopeless quagmire.”
I hope so, too. The only other good choice would be for the adults there (the ones who need to) to CHANGE themselves and thereby change the community!
It is time for all members of Haleigh’s families to rise to a higher level than they have presently been living, and to work together for the benefit of all children involved. The children need to be brought up in a good healthy environment, not a hostile environment.
If there is anything less from these families then I’m afraid we’re going to end up seeing the pictures of these children on some County Sheriff’s jail booking log 15+ years from now. This would be very sad. One can almost see the handwriting on the wall of keeping the jail tradition of all these families involved.
ProtectKidz - I also pray that these kids somehow, someway get out of that area.
m2c: I’m not talking about judging when I ask about the last time anyone has mentioned Turner Syndrome.
Haleigh suffer’s from a serious disorder.
I’m wondering when last a member of the family pleaded for her return and stated that Haleigh needs regular health care to combat this disorder?
I’m talking actions from the family geared towards the goal of getting back a live Haleigh.
Not being facetious or mean towards either side - just wondering when last anyone has pleaded for her release…
Acey - you are right on. <3
m2c♥ said,in January 30th, 2010 at 9:16 pm:
I wonder what would have happened if the energy, time and resources that MG & Co put into trashing R and trying to get custody of Jr had - instead - been put into trying to find Haleigh?
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I wonder what would’ve happened if the energy, time and resources that Ronald put into selling drugs, bedding underage girls, and generally making a huge ass out of himself had instead been put into trying to find Haleigh??
if it was my kid, I would spend every media moment begging the abductor to be sure my child got her regular treatment, if not leave her at a medical facility. After the first few months, I would be freaking out wondering what affect lack of treament might be causing my child discomfort or pain.
I would be emailing my child’s photo to every medical facility in this country.
There ARE things these families could be doing and I wonder why they are not.
protectkidz at 9:49 am -
I understand, I think. But the last person I saw on TV was TN. I’m going to post the link to an article within which is a link to the interview in my next post.
What I want to say, though, is that whenever a family member gives an interview they are criticized for what they say or don’t say. There’s even been at least one blogger who didn’t think family should give interviews (go on TV) at all! Just sit in a chair outside police headquarters to keep the pressure on LE!
So no matter what they do or say it doesn’t suit some people. I don’t want to guess why LE and others have or have not mentioned Turner’s in a while.
It’s now almost a year later, so needing medicine or medical care is not exactly the same urgent message to a kidnapper as it was when Haleigh first went missing - and it was mentioned then.
protectkidz: You said, “There ARE things these families could be doing and I wonder why they are not.”
I can’t put myself in their shoes. I really can’t. I shouldn’t. Because it would be me imagining myself handling it right and well and perfect. I am a flawed person and I’m sure I would not handle anything like this very well - and I’m sure whatever I did or didn’t do would be judged harshly by others who have been blessed by not having experienced the same thing.
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Below is the link to the article I mentioned with a link to TN’s most recent interview.
http://www.news4jax.com/news/22335866/detail.html
Drowsy, please read my post at 7:51 am.
m2c: the families are not interviewing well, imo.
John Merchant is the name Ron and Misty used on the Honeymoon “The Today Show”
protectkidz: I’d probably be locked up in “a little white jacket in a little white room” in a special ward by now. If I could talk I’d be lucky if anything besides babbling came out.
This is the kind of thing I don’t want to judge.
m2c: again, it’s not judgement, it’s examination of the actions by those central to the case.
yes, it’s crippling to have to deal with a tragedy such as the disappearance of your child.
But there are certain things that I have seen numerous families do when their kids go missing. Very similar things. Not seeing it here, and it makes me examine even further the actions of all involved.
Literally, if you made a list of every person involved, and then listed their actions (not words!) over the last year, it would be enlightening.
That’s all I’m saying.
“Though the mills of God grind slowly,
Yet they grind exceeding small.
Though with patience He stands waiting,
with EXACTNESS grinds He all.”
—-Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
protectkidz @ 10:56
To me, examination is one thing. The process of moving to enlightenment is another. And one that, I believe, requires some degree of judgment. And I don’t think we’d still really KNOW anything for sure because there would be so much we don’t know - like why someone did or didn’t say something; what they were feeling at the time; not to mention their inner thoughts or external pressures and experiences at the time.
If you personally feel that will lead you closer to finding out what may have happened to Haleigh, then it could be constructive. That would be great! But for me I don’t think I could hope to get there from here if I tried to do it.
You are only looking at one letter. We do not know whether or not there was a response. LE may have told them not to have contact with the Cummings until the info or tip (they told everyone about on the last news article) was checked out. We should also not be reading others mail.Why would this person send this other than to start bloggers fighting and blaming the Griffis and Crystal? jmo
m2c: these cases are so emtoionally draining.
How many nights have I cried for the kids and families that have had to endure these horrible experiences.
Bearing witness (because it seems that most of the world does not care) is the only thing I can do for these kids - I’m not LE, nor involved in any way that can help.
With Haleigh’s case, I have no hope that she is alive. Maybe that is a judgement call, and I will be very happy if I am wrong, but this judgement comes after a year of watching and waiting.
I do find comfort in knowing that the Lord’s arms are holding her close - that she is not suffering.
When it comes to the adults who had committed to keeping her safe, I can only look at the goings-on of the last year to see what she actually had to live with over the years of her life.
Why didn’t someone step in - a grandparent, a teacher, DCF? Why are so many kids left to the mercy of parents who neglect and abuse them?
It seems a vicious cycle and the only way that I can look clearly at any of these cases is if I try to remove my emotions, and concentrate only on actions. Otherwise, knowing myself, I would choose a side and that is not fair to the victim. Because really, all we know are the words and actions and how we each perceive them.
All this hostility on here. You (most of you) sound like little kids on the playground.
m2c♥ said,
in January 31st, 2010 at 7:51 am
Morning, Folks!
I had to put on my “hip-high waders” so to speak to slog thru all the manure that was spread around in here last night – thanks to Atta B, Jason, LFlorida, lingo123 etc. My gosh, you all can put out a LOT of that stinky stuff! No wonder you had to come out of your “caves” to spew. It must be downright foul in there! Lol! Try “Imodium.” I hear it really works!
I was trying to figure out why all this manure is being spewed again and then I read stg’s post @ 4:03 am which quoted the actual news report and the light bulb went on! Crystal has onlytemporary custody so far. So are Marie & Co doing what they do best? What they’re really famous for? Going on the net and spreading the dung? Or maybe there is some other reason for such deliberate hatefulness and lies?
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This was just so good I wanted to repeat it.
Repeat!!!
4Pirate said,in January 31st, 2010 at 11:34 am
All this hostility on here. You (most of you) sound like little kids on the playground.
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shoot, this is nothing. You should go check out the Madeleine McCann boards, lol.
You are only looking at one letter. We do not know whether or not there was a response. LE may have told them not to have contact with the Cummings until the info or tip (they told everyone about on the last news article) was checked out. We should also not be reading others mail.Why would this person send this other than to start bloggers fighting and blaming the Griffis and Crystal? jmo
How would we know that Crystal or Marie didnt call after they got this letter? We are given information that is totally one sided and I refuse to judge someone before they have a chance to respond. jmo
well, Simon should say who gave him that letter - if it was Marie, it would explain a few things.
If it was Teresa, it would explain a few things.
Not really fair not to say as all it does is cause rumors, imo.
protectkidz 8:52 - I respect your post at 8:52, I respect anyone that is big enough to say I made a mistake, or I was wrong. Thank you! It was a refreshing post.
I am sure they have all made mistakes in their relationships and I hope Crystal will take advantage of this opportunity to take a step towards healing that relationship for the sake of her kids.
It certainly appears Teresa N is trying to take steps towards her.
Treece, I totally agree. We are not privy to all the info here. This is just someones attempt to make someone look bad. The other person who the letter was writen to has not had a chance to tell their side. And I doubt very much that they would not allow anyone to come to a vigil for Haleigh. jmo
Thank you, Treece @ 11:39 am
But I think another part is even more important to repeat (especially since the first part was repeated). Because it may not be the bio-mom’s side who is responsible for the latest burst sewer pipe.
I also said:
“Or maybe it is not directly related to the bio-mom’s side at all. Maybe it is just vicious hateful mean-spirited people taking their “virtual” baseball bats to strangers on the net? Could you please consider purging yourselves of such venom on some other topic? NOT one about a missing little girl? If you can’t talk politics (although you apparently don’t need to know what you’re talking about anyway), then try a site about competing football teams or who should win American Idol or whatever. Don’t dump on a site about Haleigh. Please.”
protectkidz, Simon isn’t responsible for that letter, it was posted by a blogger.
treece, thank you.
I am a strong believer that people can change and create a better life for themself.
As far as Teresa trying to improve relations, I hope she does make that effort, but it may take baby steps.
Trying to keep my emotions out of it (lol, eating my words) but if I received a letter like that and the dad was on his way to prison for drugs, I would not give a thought as to “his desires”, but would instead plan the vigil the way I wanted it to be.
Trying to be respectful here, hope this is not offensive.
Jitterbug said,
in January 30th, 2010 at 7:19 pm
This is a letter that was sent to Marie Griffis from Teresa Neves regarding the 1 year Vigils for HaLeigh.
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See this post above for the letter. I am not judging Jitterbug for posting it.
If I had the letter and felt it was to be best interest of Haleigh or Jr I probably would have posted it too. None of us know how we would have handled.
You have to ask yourself two questions on this one.
1. If this is a letter from Teresa N. sent to Marie G. how did this blogger get it to post?
Who sent it to her and why did she feel the need to show it to us?
2.Why will we comment before there is a responce from the person this letter was sent to? moo
omgosh, Simon, I’m so sorry!
It was “Jitterbug” who wrote that and I see that Simon wrote in bold that it is not confimed.
My apologies
I’m going to go see if I can find anything else about that letter…
protectkidz, not offensive at all. I don’t expect Crystal to honor Ron’s wishes. I just hope she will love her son enough to realize how much he needs to keep a relationship with his other grandma’s. I can’t hardly stand the thought of him experiencing 2 more losses.
ok, just found this over at ScaredMonkeys:
“Jan Barrett said,
in January 30th, 2010 at 9:38 pm
We have just received confirmation that the letter from TN to MG that was posted on here is authentic. Although we do not know who it was that posted it and we do not know if Teresa Neves meant for it to go public. We apologize to her if she didn’t and if she wants it removed to please notify me at jannyo@gmail.com.
Thanks,
Jan Barrett - BNN Editor
http://www.bloggernews.net/123690 ”
don’t know where it is posted here…
Jan made a later post that confirmed it was a real letter.
ok, I see it from last night at 9:38 pm.
Treece, I agree and right now Crystal has got her hands full trying to explain where Ron is and why he cant go see Daddy. He may not be allowed to go until he is 12. Some jails dont allow children to visit. Iguess he could call and talk to him. Hope she has allowed this. jmo
so, it’s confirmed that it is authentic, but did Jitterbug bring it from Teresa to show that she is making an effort to reach out?
Or did Jitterbug bring it from Marie to show that Teresa is trying to control the vigil?
it looks like it could be either or, to me.
Jan, are you able to tell us how you were able to authenticate this letter?
There is NO need for Crystal to have anything to do with the drama that continues with TN and Ron period. That choice has nothing to do with getting Haleigh back, nor does it diminish Crystals love for her missing chid.
With all the crazy antics in Ron and Misty’s families and the manipulative DRAMA coming from TN…none of it has anything to do with missing Haleigh…it’s all been about protecting her son Ron PERIOD!!!
I am so happy Crystal has Butterbean back.
I’m praying so hard that lil Haleigh’s whereabouts will be known soon.
At least LE did something right by not arresting Ron in front of Junior. jmo
Logos, I like your style.
Alanna, my point is not about Teresa or Haleigh.
My point is for Junior. 95% of his time has been with Teresa N and GGm Sykes. He feels the pain of all this but can’t even understand most of it. He has lost his sister, now his dad. It is going to do him double damage if he loses 2 grandmas from his life.
If Crystal is mature enough to put Jr 1st above herself or her desire for revenge she will want to let him be around those grandmas. Jr is going to have feelings of abandonment from his losses anyway. Any good counselor or grief therapists will tell you it would be terrible for Jr to have 2 more huge losses in his life.
Also has anyone wondered how awful it would be to go back to that MH on the anniversary of Haleighs disappearence. I dont understand why Teresa would want to go back there, why not a church or rented building instead? jmo
listening said,
in January 31st, 2010 at 3:44 am
Crystal was given full custody of her son.Was she the only one asking for custody?If so why didn’t Ron’s Mom or Grandmother ask for custody?And if both sides were asking for custody for whatever reason the Judge decided it is in J.R.’s best interest to be with the mother.I pray for Haliegh and little J.R. and in the end “ONLY GOD WILL JUDGE”Isn’t that what Ron had put on the back window of his truck?This is almost finished.
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she was not given full custody.they had joint custody anyway and the only thing that changed was she was given temp primary custody. Ron still has joint custody of both kids. Mrs Sykes was there and so was a dcf worker that said Jr should stay where he was with Mrs Sykes.
Why did GMSykes ask for custody and not Teresa?
I must be missing something here, Teresa is younger and a closer relative why didnt she ask for custody instead of GGMSykes? If it were my grandson I would be the one asking for custody. Does anyone know why? moo
protectkidz said,
in January 31st, 2010 at 12:03 pm
so, it’s confirmed that it is authentic, but did Jitterbug bring it from Teresa to show that she is making an effort to reach out?
Or did Jitterbug bring it from Marie to show that Teresa is trying to control the vigil?
it looks like it could be either or, to me.
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How do you jump from TN trying to reach out to TN trying to control the vigil? If anyone is trying to control anything it is Marie and Crystal.
We are not privy to any anwer she may have received from this letter. So far this is one sided and should not be commented on. Jitterbug should have sent this to Jan and not posted it without anyones permission, like Teresa or Marie. There is no release signed giving permission for anyone to post this letter.jmo
tobias, Marie has plenty of buddies on this blog. I am sure she has been notified it is on here. She is welcome to comment on it if she wants to.
Why hasn’t this vigil been made public? Isn’t it open to everyone? Isn’t the point to honor Haleigh and for public awareness?
Am I missing something?
Guess this will be discussed on todays show along with all the other items of interest?
If this keeps up they may have to make it a 2 hour program soon lol
I’ve got chores to do. Be back later.
Hope you all have a good day and stay warm.
Jitterbug said,in January 30th, 2010 at 7:19 pm This is a letter that was sent to Marie Griffis from Teresa Neves regarding the 1 year Vigils for HaLeigh.
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Letter has been removed at the request of the parties involved.
Jan Barrett
tobias: I agree about the MH. Not a place I would ever want to go back to.
Searching:
I didn’t jump. I asked two seperate questions.
I agree, tobias - not fair to discuss when we don’t know what is behind it, and it has been removed.
Thank You J an. I believe Jitterbug should have either emailed you or faxed you the letter first. This would be the most honest and legal way to do it and to post personal letters in my opinion is wrong without the other parties permission. I am glad you took it down. Tobias
That letter was released by TN to further try and smear CS and MG, didn’t work, it only goes to show how deeply she’s embedded with her minions on the net followin her on twitter and spewing her BS. If I was CS of MG, I’d tell TN to focus on her drug dealing son who chose Misty and a lifestyle of drugs over his own children. Thanks God Jr is out of that toxic enviroment and I pray forever, cause I really don’t see Ron skating on his trafficking charges.
tobias said,
in January 31st, 2010 at 12:47 pm
Why did GMSykes ask for custody and not Teresa?
I must be missing something here, Teresa is younger and a closer relative why didnt she ask for custody instead of GGMSykes? If it were my grandson I would be the one asking for custody. Does anyone know why? moo
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he was living with Mrs Sykes and not Teresa.he went to school in Welaka and not where Teresa lived,she lives in another town. that’s been his home for the last year.
just one said,
in January 31st, 2010 at 1:15 pm
That letter was released by TN to further try and smear CS and MG, didn’t work, it only goes to show how deeply she’s embedded with her minions on the net followin her on twitter and spewing her BS. If I was CS of MG, I’d tell TN to focus on her drug dealing son who chose Misty and a lifestyle of drugs over his own children. Thanks God Jr is out of that toxic enviroment and I pray forever, cause I really don’t see Ron skating on his trafficking charges.
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How do you know that? Did you talk to Teresa and she told you?
Shame on jitterbug for putting that letter out on the net without permission, and I am glad it was pulled.
Vaquera, since day one she’s done nothing but try to diminish the fact that CS is mom, seriously you must be wearing blinders if you missed her jabs (and Rons) about how Misty was a better mom and how the kids wanted Misty as there mom. Yeah, that is smearing and trashing in a very manipulatibe way and that’s exactly what TN is a manipulator. Ron wouldn’t be into drugs if it wasn’t for Misty, oh snap guess she forgot about his rap sheet going back to when Misty was 9 yrs old. Amazing that a 9 yr old he’d never met made him do drugs. That laughable and absurd, she needs to hold him accountable for his actions and if she had yrs ago well Maybe HaLeigh wouldn’t have been “stole”. Those babies never stood a chance with Ron and Misty, or even just Ron for that matter. Taking care of your kids is more important than your next high unless your Ron Cummings
If I were Teresa right now I would be furious at Ron for putting her in this situation. Didnt she have enough to worry about? And now he has added his drug problems on top of what is really important to her and that is finding Haleigh. If I were her I would refuse to even discuss his arrest and make only statements to find Haleigh. And I would tell him honey I love you but you made your bed now sleep in it.
But that is just my opinion as a parent.
Exactly Tobias, but instead she’s out there spewing BS like ” he gave up his freedom to find HaLeigh”, sounds like Casey A’s mom when Casey was out in bars looking for Zanny, Ron was dealing drugs to find HaLeigh. Sounds like she learned alot from the Anthonys sadly
I didnt hear her say that where is that statement? jmo
In the video, IIRC it’s newjax4 after her first visit to see Ron. I’ll try to find it for you, but WS and SM have posted the link. I couldn’t believe she actually went THAT far with her BS.
Misty was sound a sleep when some one came in the home and took Haleigh. Yes she had been out the weekend before and used drugs and was up 24 hours before this night going over relationship issues with Ronald. A task for anyone who has been in relationship knows how draining those long night conversations can be in of its self. I have had teenagers I have had numerous mornings on weekends where 1or 2 of the three were up playing music, cleaning, vacuuming, washer dryer going, friends coming over all the while the other one sleeps through it all and that is with out drugs or being up for 24hours. My oldest daughter while we still lived in Alberta so it had to be before 93, I would gamble 92. She pulled a chair to the table got on the table reached up and undid the top chain lock then undone the dead bolt and the regular lock. Then she put on her snow suit and boots and closed the door behind her. We all slept through it we found her a half block away standing between two houses crying her head off, both those houses were sleeping through her crying. About two weeks later another family had the very similar happen except their child did not have a snow suit or boots she was found frozen completely dead frozen. She was taken in and brought back with much needed surgeries, she was declared a miracle, that whole family slept through it. The house she was found next to slept through her crying and freezing to death. The police in this case are simply frustrated in not being able to solve it so they do as they have always done blame the last one. Until it comes to light they were wrong and then it’s time for that famous last words speech “Were sorry, were learning” They don’t want to admit they could be wrong there is a lot a stake now Haleigh is hardly the only agenda on the table. Potential law suits, politics and inquiries into the handling of this case have steeped up to take top priority, everything is an agenda from those stand points. I’m praying for the day a new department takes it over and brings this little girl home
God Bless Haleigh and all her families
He tried. He’s only been hanging around her for two or three weeks, trying to befriend her, find out what he could - and this is what happened,” Neves said. “It’s like he said, if it brings Haleigh home, it’s all worth it.”
I found the news article and was surprised she could say this. I s she saying that her son sold drugs to find Haleigh? Really? How does selling drugs bring Haleigh home? I just cant figure out why Ron or Teresa would believe we are that stupid. Ron is in jail because he was hanging with Misty? Oh my god will it never end? jmo
I guess I missed a ton of stuff last night. Letter? don’t worry, I won’t ask…I’ll just sit back and read…. Where are all the “Ron supporters”? oops I wasn’t gonna’ bring that up either.
I think people are just so dead set on putting EVERYTHING that happens on the Cummings family that it will not matter what they say or do. They do interviews, they get bashed for it, they don’t do them, they get bashed. I think some people choosing to set aside the fact that Misty’s FATHER was the one arrested for Dr. shopping not long ago shows just how badly everyone wants to blame Ronald for everything.
One more thing, how is it that you all are blaming TN for that letter being posted on here if TN sent that letter to Crystal, can one of you please tell me how you jump to it being TN if the letter was sent to Crystal, therefor would be in her possession?? It was removed because it was not suppose to be posted in public, which means TN never meant for it to go public.
Tobia-NO, it will never end. Sounds just like Cindy Anthony doesn’t it.
Here’s abit more from her videos and interviews, warning if you are prone to puking don’t read
According to Teresa Ron is into studying the Bible now *snort* More at link (if you can stomach it)
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news…rrests-haleigh
He’s doing the best he can…that isolation is what makes him craziest,” said Theresa Neves, Ronald Cummings mother.
Neves is talking about his son Ronald’s recent arrest. He, his ex-wife Misty, her brother, Hank Tommy Croslin Jr., and two others were all taken into custody last week on drug trafficking charges for selling and possessing pain pills.
“He said he read a 376 page book from three in the morning until three in the afternoon. So he’s doing a lot of reading, a lot of Bible study,” said Neves.
Theresa says Ronald is in a jail cell alone, in protective custody. He has a cot and a toilet in his room. The lights in his cell stay on all day and all night, so Theresa says Ron has been forced to sleep under his cot to try and get out of the light.
“I think one day, he called eight times. He was pretty lonely that day, I guess,” said Neves.
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http://www.actionnewsjax.com/default.aspx
“He had to give up his freedom to bring Haleigh home, and that is what he has done”
Oh there they are!
Searching, Those are seperate cases. Ron was dealing drugs and was caught with video and audio I dont think he can blame anyone else for that. It is seperate from Haleighs case. LE will interview them just like they interviewed everyone else they have arrested for past year.jmo
Searching, why don’t you ask TN since you follow her on twitter and she follows you, minions much, jus saying:)
me said, in January 31st, 2010 at 1:30 am
LFlorida…actually, KP, Crystal & Marie have already admitted to using those tactics…and I believe Haleigh would have been found long before now had they not done that. You ought to be ashamed for continuing with the mission. You were all busted for your hateful lies months ago. Anything to divert attention away from Haleigh being found…pathetic.
I can only guess some man has left you real bitter and you are now taking it out on Ron. There are more constructive ways to deal with your hate…counselling can help with that.
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Could somebody tell me what my mission was, and if I chose to accept it?
Also, what was I busted for? If you don’t mean it in the legal sense, what did I get in trouble about?
I haven’t been left by any man of any significance.
Are you confusing me with someone else?
I also dont think anyone is gonna get a free pass on drug dealing because their daughter is missing. jmo
Searching said,in January 31st, 2010 at 2:15 pm I think people are just so dead set on putting EVERYTHING that happens on the Cummings family that it will not matter what they say or do. They do interviews, they get bashed for it, they don’t do them, they get bashed. I think some people choosing to set aside the fact that Misty’s FATHER was the one arrested for Dr. shopping not long ago shows just how badly everyone wants to blame Ronald for everything.
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So, let me get this straight, we are supposed to blame Hank because Ron was trafficking drugs? Okiedokie then that makes sense LOL.
Also, it’s not that they are bashed which I disagree with, it’s that when they do speak it’s all BS. Now run on back and twitter to TN what is being said.
At least when CD and MG were on twitter they used there names and didn’t hide behind another, really ???? Whowantstoknow? that’s classic:)
tobias said, in January 31st, 2010 at 12:34 pm
Also has anyone wondered how awful it would be to go back to that MH on the anniversary of Haleighs disappearence. I dont understand why Teresa would want to go back there, why not a church or rented building instead? jmo
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ITA - that’s too macabre.
Is Teresa really planning on doing this? JMO, Tee, but that’s one of your not very brilliant ideas.
Wonder who she expects will show up down there, besides media and a few WEBWEIRDOs?
Anybody know who all showed up for the one at grANNette’s Christmas vigil.
A link to Levi’s “trash-talk” about Annette would also be appreciated.
Did anyone notice how Misty was looking over at DB in the video when they were before the judge? Was she surprised to see her there too?
moo
just one — jmo, NO. We’re supposed to blame Crystal and Marie for
EVERYTHING. EVERY SINGLE THING.
Does anyone remember the article saying Misty says LE is going to appologize when this is all over with. I do but I cant remember where the post is now lol.moo
LFlorida said,in January 31st, 2010 at 2:33 pm just one — jmo, NO. We’re supposed to blame Crystal and Marie for
EVERYTHING. EVERY SINGLE THING
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Ok, Thanks I didn’t get that memo yet. Note to self: Marie and Crystal are the ones that made Ron do drugs, traffick drugs, sleep with underage girls, father 3 kids out of wedlock not hold a job, got HaLeigh “stoled while good boy Ron waz werking”, call home 20 times that night and never went ot check. OK, I’m sure I missed many of those pesky lil details to blame them for but I feel certain someone will pop in to remind me.
Alanna, THANK YOU! I am sitting on my hands so I won’t say the rest of it.
Just to be fair & balanced, I will repeat this post as well, treesa.
[note to the reader - I do not live in a cave. All of the caves in my area are underwater. I have never even seen or spoken to Marie or Teresa or Annette to my knowledge.]
My only agenda is that I live and raise 2 children here in Putnam County and I want justice done for society’s sake and Haleigh’s sake. Period.
FWIW, treesa, I don’t really give a dam that it say temp custody. Let Marie/Crytsal and Treesa/Annette duke that out. It doesn’t effect me or my children. [but somebody does need to worry about Lil Jeremiah. Who’s watching out for his best interest?]
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treece said, in January 31st, 2010 at 11:39 am
m2c♥ said,
in January 31st, 2010 at 7:51 am
Morning, Folks!
I had to put on my “hip-high waders” so to speak to slog thru all the manure that was spread around in here last night – thanks to Atta B, Jason, LFlorida, lingo123 etc. My gosh, you all can put out a LOT of that stinky stuff! No wonder you had to come out of your “caves” to spew. It must be downright foul in there! Lol! Try “Imodium.” I hear it really works!
I was trying to figure out why all this manure is being spewed again and then I read stg’s post @ 4:03 am which quoted the actual news report and the light bulb went on! Crystal has onlytemporary custody so far. So are Marie & Co doing what they do best? What they’re really famous for? Going on the net and spreading the dung? Or maybe there is some other reason for such deliberate hatefulness and lies?
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This was just so good I wanted to repeat it.
Repeat!!!
FYI
FOTY = Father of the Year
WAS THAT M2C POSTING THAT REALLY i THOUGHT SHE WAS FAIR AND IMPARTIAL IN HER POSTS TO THE VICTIMS IN THIS CASE. gUESS SHE HAS CHANGED HER OPINIONS AGAIN MY BAD.LOL MOO
Tobias, I remember the Misty will be owed an apology.
“They must think if they put enough pressure on us, we’ll force Misty into telling what happened to Haleigh,” Lindsay told me. “But we don’t know and I don’t believe she knows anything, either. She’s saying, ‘When all this is over, they are going to know the truth and owe me an apology.’”
LFlorida said,in January 31st, 2010 at 2:33 pm just one — jmo, NO. We’re supposed to blame Crystal and Marie for
EVERYTHING. EVERY SINGLE THING.
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If they have their way. I suppose they’d say that the Sheffield side was responsible for Haleigh’s disappearance. But why? in order to bring attention to the lifestyle going on with Ron and Misty? But wait — Wouldn’t that mean — just perhaps, — that there was something to draw attention TO?
Just my opinion.
WOW. Yesterday she chastised me for not having sympathy for Ron and that he is a victim. Really seems to me that Crystal and Marie are also victims yet she says this about them.
She also claims to be impartial but thats not what I see here. M2C Do not comment on my posts anymore because I will now not discuss anything with you. Not because you disagree with me but because you are not impartial and call people bashers when they go against your opinions. you are not impartial when it comes to Crystal or Marie are they not victims too? jmo
I would also like to add I am not in Crystal or Maries corner. They just get a pass for now as it seems the investigation has turned towards Ron Misty and Tommy and their drug dealing. LE must feel pretty sure some info is going to come out from these 3 in jail. And if it were Crystal Chad and Marie sitting in jail right now I would feel the same about their involvement. moo
Hi, Tobias! You were not even on-line last night during the period of time I referenced in my post this morning. Your posts are not the ones I was talking about.
And before you get the wrong idea please read my whole post @ 7:51 am. Some ill-intended people only posted the part they wanted you to see in order to deliberately mis-lead you.
Dearest Teresa:
We will gladly attend the candle light vigil being held at 202 Green Lane, I just want to make sure that there is enough room if we have alot of people show up and for the media, we will be having some people come with us as well. I just didn’t want to cause a problem for the people who live in that area and thought maybe it would be better if we found a place like maybe the neighbors yard where the sheriff’s office set up there on the corner of Tyler and Monroe. Safety is a big concern. Also we are having a prayer vigil here in Glen St. Mary on Feb. 6th, 2010 @ 5:30 pm which is on Saturday and would like to extend an invitation for everyone to attend as well. I just want everyone to come together for HaLeigh and be of one mind and of one accord and let God opened the doors and reveal the truth as to what happened the night and early morning hours of Feb. 9th & 10th, 2009.
I feel God’s presence already and he is moving on ending this pain and suffering that HaLeigh and all her family members are going through. It is Crystal and Ronald’s desire that everyone come together for the sake of their daughter, this day marks one year since our baby girl disappeared without a trace and I have a feeling that when we all come together in prayer for HaLeigh that God will move mountains in a tremendous way and reveal the darkness done with his everlasting light.
Please get back to me and let know that this will be the spot for the vigil and we will all be in attendance. Thank You.
God Bless
Marie
Tobias, My 7:51 am was a response to the middle-of-the-night boohaha (which you were not a part of). If you want to know where I stand on things right now please read my post at 8:42 am. Thank you!
For anybody who would like to know the truth Teresa has MG’s cell and home number if she can’t get Crystal all she has to do is call Marie or leave a message, and yes by the way I do read these blogs when necessary.
God Bless you All,
Marie
you are the last person that needs to come spewing your tactics. You know what and who you are and your BOLD moves . Karma is a coming to get you someday. HHow disappointed Your Gbaby is going to be with you when she reads all the BS.
Jan,
Could you please verify who it was that asked you to remove the letter? Was it at Teresa’s request? Marie?
Thank you!
MarieyoumakemeSICK! said,in January 31st, 2010 at 4:23 pm you are the last person that needs to come spewing your tactics. You know what and who you are and your BOLD moves . Karma is a coming to get you someday. HHow disappointed Your Gbaby is going to be with you when she reads all the BS.
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Take a valium and get over it, she has as much right as anyone else to try and clear the BS spewed by the Cummings, pffffft
Thank God Jr is there, now he has a chance of a normal life without a drug dealing perv as a role model
I do know what and who I am the problem is no one else knows that and people that sit and do the devils work on these blogs are getting just what they deserve, you call it karma I call it justice God style. I don’t believe in karma it is BS, and I don’t believe in Physics, read ur Bible. Plan facts are TYHE TRUTH HURTS
Stg,thanks for the correction.I’m just wondering if there was anyone,other than Crystal that asked to be considered to have temporary custody of J.R.?Seems like he would have been placed in the temporary custody of the grandparent where he already lived:rather than to move him,but maybe the grandmother is elderly or for some other reason that was not an option,I don’t know,but just thought it may be easier for the little boy to remain in familiar surroundings,rather than to move him,with everything else going on.All of this has to be hard on him.I do believe the answers are close at hand.I don’t have the answers and don’t believe anyone else does either.Some of the people who post here do have some very good theries;I think Tobias and Cathyjo63 are giving honest opinions and opened minded,however it does seem that some are more or less just defenders.This is and should be only about Haliegh and bringing her home,but lets not forget J.R.,he needs to be kept safe and needs lots of love and understanding.He will have to live with the present and the outcome of this terrible tragedy.Let’s all keep him in our thoughts too.I pray all the answers come soon.
Crack is whack. Poor Jr.
Listening,
I don’t think TN or GGMS had lawyers for the Hearing. Crystal did. I do hope DCF have made sure there is no longer any crack about that property. Crackheads do crazy things for money, and if one of the kids had started playing with the crack or one of the pipes, they could have become very sick and/or died. It seems everyone in the Sheffield house has a drug conviction of some sort…at least with the Cummings, we know that GGMS & TN do not have drug convictions and there certainly hasn’t been crack found on their properties.
As always, excellent posts from Tobias, Lflorida, AttaBoy, Alethea - great reading, you all are the most level-headed and un-biased of those who frequently post.
A couple new ones are very smart and sensible too, I see - just_one, gee_mom.
Your insights are very much appreciated.
I will note the names of any I may have overlooked as I see them.
LOl Marie your a hypocrite that thinks her poo don’t stink. Huh? one breath slinging venom next breath breathing ghospel. Give a rest women we know who you are. Hope you are enjoying making all the money of of HaLeigh and How was that $$ you just got and didn’t even go to the event only to pick up your money.Why ask for $ for candles and lighters why didn’t you just say hey everyone send me money again and again. Hey Samwatkins gave you a free hand out . Nothing has been put toward HaLeigh just lining your pockets.
Jason, I second your 5:33pm post. Thanks.
Gee this feels like the mud pits people get a grip lol
bluemoon what is going on its bedlam in here
where did all these posters come from I dont recognize any names.
tobias said,in January 31st, 2010 at 3:18 pm I would also like to add I am not in Crystal or Maries corner. They just get a pass for now as it seems the investigation has turned towards Ron Misty and Tommy and their drug dealing. LE must feel pretty sure some info is going to come out from these 3 in jail. And if it were Crystal Chad and Marie sitting in jail right now I would feel the same about their involvement. moo
I agree on that one Tobias,As i have said before,because a dad’s in jail doesn’t make her a mother!!
IMO CS and Mg Are as unfit as a Buffalo’s hoof in a baby’s sock!!!!
That’s my opinion!!!! Only! Until someone gives theirs!!
I’m scarrrrrreddddd
ba cent me too
Cathy…. you are much loved!!!!!!
Are as unfit as a Buffalo’s hoof in a baby’s sock!!!!
Over here Tobias..yoohoo Now you know me? LoL J/K
mamameee tuuuttooooooo cent!
Is this (above) the controversal letter everyones been talkin’ about?
Cathy you maybe right but a drug dealer is not a good father either. And that is solid proof since he is in jail. Crystal is not(yet) and may never be and may have seen the light and straightened up. Who knows. But she is not the point right now the point is why do LE think this bunch in jail knows more about where haleigh is? moo
Likewise Adam’s,very much so!!!!! And Ty!!
I left these for ya.LoL No one came over so i carried over in this ole mop bucket!
beautiful*adams (cent) said,in January 31st, 2010 at 3:08 pm Hi CathyJo63…. glad to see you, I enjoyed everyones company last night. You should NOT worry…. Because, you have NO…. wick!!!
CathyJo63 said,in January 31st, 2010 at 3:55 pm ROFL!!
I swear to God,I’ll laugh about that till the end of time,it just fit so perfectly into what you were saying and i actually had the visual….rofl!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CathyJo63 said,in January 31st, 2010 at 4:01 pm I love it in here,ya don’t have to be afraid of who ya are or where you’ve been..or what you’ve been through,everybody understand’s and support’s you! That goes alonggggggg way to me!!!
And I can’t wait for the opportunity to use your wick,I swear I can’t get over it!!!
Cathy, is that like a “one legged guy in a butt-kickin’ contest”?
The ‘Welcome to the Jungle’ video explains why Ron requested audio of him ranting at the jail be recorded.
Guys from the hood, whom Ron is now jailed with, believe he killed Haleigh, and that st least one of Ron’s relative’s talked to police and put blame on someone that is close to Mrs. Lookadoo (her son, no doubt).
Ron requested an audio of himself ranting that he’ll kill whomever took Haliegh because he wants to convince the guys in jail that he did not kill her.
He is afraid guys from the hood will administer ‘jail house justice’.
I never once said it was,you’re missing the point,IMO since he’s in jail,they should have placed him in a DRUGLESS environment!
Did you ever hear me say he wasn’t??
Or that I ever knew he was? NO!!
So hoe bout’ that psycic sue on the show? What was her trip?
I think everyone is getting sidetracked away from the fact that we may learn from the bunch in jail where haleigh is. moo
Hi, Tobias @ 5:42 - You said, “where did all these posters come from I dont recognize any names.”
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That’s part of why I responded to last night’s turmoil the way I did. Also, LFlorida MIS-informed you about my posts this morning. She only posted the part she wanted you to see and not the next paragraph which describes what I thought was more likely. (Although the email wars by Marie & Co are well-documented in KP’s response to the bar complaint. So that was a valid consideration.)
Please read ALL of my 7:51 am and my 8:42 am before falling for their propaganda! My posts had nothing to do with you AT ALL.
And Tobias,Lemme tell ya that I know for a fact what it is to be drugged up and see no future,been there done that,bought the ashtray but Never once did i not love my daughter??
I am happy you can’t relate,honest I am but take it from someone whose been there!!
Sue is nuts she did not sound credible to me.moo
Tobia,she is a major key in it,sorry!! Why remove the child for the same reason she is accused w/o thinking he may/may not be worse off!!
tobias, you said, at 5:53 pm “I think everyone is getting sidetracked away from the fact that we may learn from the bunch in jail where haleigh is.”
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I agree. And that’s why I think some people here don’t give a hoot about ever finding her. It’s more important to come on here starting fights and bashing one side of the family or another. It would spoil their “fun” (which is a type of bloodsport as far as I’m concerned.)
And very very hurtful to real people - innocent people AND children.
I’d say if Ron ever get’s home betcha a million he’ll be a new man too!!!
so give him a chance!! all I am saying!!
Tobias, sue sounded like she was troublemaker…but confident, hmmm a confident troublemaker never seen that before…not
then you know there is hope that Crystal can also clean up just like you did.moo
LMBO @ me.yeaaaa
I hope and pray that Jr. is being well-taken care of by his Mother and extended family… just as I did when he was in his Father’s custody. That’s all one can do, and carry on!!!
** for the record, I personally do not agree that ANY personal communication between the two families should be posted. **
Lord No m2,I gotcha! And i posted there for you too but ty so much for the words of encouragement,I needed em today!!!
We are all emotionally drained but for a good cause even if we do take it out on one another,lol sometimes!!
beautiful*adams (cent) said,in January 31st, 2010 at 6:01 pm I hope and pray that Jr. is being well-taken care of by his Mother and extended family… just as I did when he was in his Father’s custody. That’s all one can do, and carry on!!!
** for the record, I personally do not agree that ANY personal communication between the two families should be posted. **
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I agree, it’s personal
Ron needs to hide under his cot in Putnam from what they said on the show its not a nice place and several of his not so good buddies are in there. Jerome Williams comes to mind and i heard cjones may be there soon also. moo
Well Tobias,from what i know and hear,I cannot prove it but if someone will expose their baby even before it’s born,is guilty of endangering a child’s life,now can you please tell me where I am wrong on that one so I know what to come back with..sheeesh
yikes, they better put him in a single cell.
I thought the “hiding” under the cot was because of the cell light being kept on night and day.
beautiful*adams (cent) said,in January 31st, 2010 at 6:07 pm I thought the “hiding” under the cot was because of the cell light being kept on night and day.
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I think it was because of the light.
CathyJo63 said,in January 31st, 2010 at 6:00 pm LMBO @ me.yeaaaa
methinks said,in January 31st, 2010 at 5:50 pm Cathy, is that like a “one legged guy in a butt-kickin’ contest”?
Sorry that reply was for ME!Just caught that.wheww
And yes Tobias but IMO she shouldn’t be responsible for a child till she does??
It was prescibed by her doctor after she was in a car accident while she was pregnant. not crack like some have rumored. that is why nothing was done at the hospital the doctor knew what he gave crystal befor she gave birth. jmo
tobias said,in January 31st, 2010 at 5:53 pm I think everyone is getting sidetracked away from the fact that we may learn from the bunch in jail where haleigh is. moo
I seriously doubt that will happen. I believe if anyone in there knows more than what they are telling, it’s Tommy, and it’s because he is the one who did something to her. I doubt he’ll confess, and we can only help that Lindsay starts to talk to LE about what she knows.
If it was the Sheffield side of the family, well, then this is just another diversion from finding Haleigh.
If it was a more random SO, then all this pointing the finger at Ron & Misty stuff has been seriously counter-productive to the cause.
If Tommy did it Misty knows too. moo
tobias said,in January 31st, 2010 at 6:04 pm Ron needs to hide under his cot in Putnam from what they said on the show its not a nice place and several of his not so good buddies are in there. Jerome Williams comes to mind and i heard cjones may be there soon also. moo
Now whose sidetracked?? A diff topic started and Bam!A big ole neon sign!
Thats what i meant by my statement,tell me now so i know what to come back with,you are fixated on R & M drug use,i find that rather odd,I’m sorry but i do!!!!!!
Think about it if she tels mom and dad wont take care of her, ron wont where will she go?moo
Not that I believe this…. but if one is to say that the Sheffield’s are involved in the abduction, and Tommy went to the MH… it almost would seem that they would have to have been working together.
‘Mommy, I’m Skeered’. That’s why he requested an audio be recorded of him ranting that he’ll kill whomever took Haleigh.
He’s afraid he’ll get jail house justice unless he convinces the guys he didn’t kill Haliegh.
Charles Jones (one of Misty’s flames), said, to paraphrase - ‘Ron, everyone knows what happened to Haleigh’.
‘Everyone’ meaning people in the hood, including the guys in jail.
Ron requested a jail interview be recorded to try and convince the guya he did not kill Haleigh.
YouTube video is about the guys in jail having opportunity to punish Ron for killing Haliegh, and then his family pointing the blame at Mrs. Lookadoo’s.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwwfM0Sk-vU
tobias @ 6:10 - I think that’s a rumor. If it’s true, however, then C needs to sue KP right quick to set the record straight. It’s one of the reasons KP gave for not being able to follow through to try get custody of Jr for Crystal.
good night cathy have fun lol
tobias said,in January 31st, 2010 at 6:04 pm Ron needs to hide under his cot in Putnam from what they said on the show its not a nice place and several of his not so good buddies are in there. Jerome Williams comes to mind and i heard cjones may be there soon also. moo
So we can assume you like violence?? and perhap’s an innocent man’s death? A child’s father!
WinterRose said,in January 30th, 2010 at 9:51 pm I don’t think anyone had any doubt it was posted with her consent,but why?Don’t they have lawyers?I don’t understand why the custody visitations or personnal back and forth with either side have to be put out all over the internet on blogs and twitter.
Public opinion is not going to sway a judge’s decision,so why put this out for public sympathy?
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It should be obvious, shouldn’t it?
tobias…Misty has made it clear from day one that she thinks it’s Tommy and/or Joe. It’s not like she kept that a secret. Everyone said she was throwing them under the bus and no one took it seriously as a real possibility.
Well hello Fire,I was prescribed morphine 30 times or more but that doesn’t give me a rt to expose an unborn child to it!!
tobias…i’m not sure where you get that the meds were prescribed to her…KP said she had illegal drugs in her system when Chloe was born. And something was done about it…you might want to read KP’s reply in full.
Hi, cent!
This is purely speculative but one possibility is that Tommy did go there, saw something and is too scared to say who/what he saw - especially if he recognized the person as being from that side of the family or any “really bad dude.” And, two, “ships passing in the night!” Just possibilities.
ohh TY Tobias,I will! I am so glad you care!!
But yet, Misty made up with him and performed a deal with him.
Marie the Bible? Please ……… When you and Crystal have Bilbe study in your drug dwelling have her write in it what time Jr. gets out of school so she can get out of bed and pick him up…… Cause no one tells her these things….
alethea, it could have been someone who did it without TN’s permission or knowledge.
cent…Tommy is definitely my #1 suspect, and has been for a long time. Though I do think the Sheffields or a SO is also a possibility.
I dunno where Tobias got all this info,heck i’ve heard it too but i ain’t gonna harp on it!! But when someone justifies violence that’s where i get concerned,sorry you guy’s!!
M2C @ 6:19….. very plausible…. ohhh and Hello!!
Right Adam’s and they even had the EPO dropped,or am I wrong??
ooops….should have said Tommy and/or Joe are my number 1 suspects. I think the answers have been under LE’s nose since the beginning, but they were badly sidetracked by crazy allegations towards Ron, and other irrelevant stuff. Misty pointed the finger at Tommy and Joe from day one, and many days since. No one wanted to hear it.
Tobias @ 5:40
bluemoon what is going on its bedlam in here
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I have no idea!! I have been watching and not posting for many reasons… I am in your court and read you, Hollysgmom, Jason, BACent and some others. I skim through the rest…
Why is everyone crucifying the otherside of the family now that info may be coming out from the ones in jail? Could it be they are scared that the ones responcible may be in jail already and they are the ones they have liked all along? This is not a popularity contest here people its about finding Haleigh. moo and I am leaving for the night so have at ti.
Krissy said,in January 31st, 2010 at 6:21 pm Marie the Bible? Please ……… When you and Crystal have Bilbe study in your drug dwelling have her write in it what time Jr. gets out of school so she can get out of bed and pick him up…… Cause no one tells her these things….
Good One!!
Me…. I can see where Tommy could come in to play. I have considered him a key player. I do not believe the Sheffields are the ones. But, never-the-less… who knows what LE really thinks.
Cathy… protective order was dropped by Misty
geeeee wiz Tobias,why are you? I don’t wanna argue but lord can’t we just discuss it??
I ain’t scared of nothing like that Tobias,I am however terrified of never finding the truth for Haleigh!!
CathyJo63 said,in January 31st, 2010 at 4:37 pm Haleigh’s Smile!
We don’t know where you are
or even if you’re near or far,
But we will be looking until the day
We finally hear someone say
We found her and we know her by the smile
her granny told us she alway’s had even if it take’s awhile
I know your daddy is aching and torn up inside
But don’t you worry because he has alot of people who want you back by his side,
And if it take’s forever he will find you wherever you are
And I know he’s looking from his heart,the only way he can,
and his family and friend’s on the outside are doing what he can’t
So hold your head up high and keep that pretty little smile
So we know it’s you when we get there
And you will see him again wherever you are
Regardless if it’s near or far!
That’s all I am afraid of! I’m sorry Tobias if i ruffled your feather’s but a week ago i was just like ya! Until i saw alot more info i didn’t know! Truce??
If the guys in the hood are in agreement that Ron killed Haleigh, they may be right.
True, the photos of Ron and Haleigh reveal his love and attention to her, however, the word on the street is often the truth.
cent, I have this feeling that LE knows who it is but they want all of them and to be sure they have everyone that is involved. And they need just one to roll and the rest will come down like a house of cards. moo
Ohhh Ok,i thought so Adam’s! Ty
Hi, BlueMoon! If you are reading only the posters with whom you agree, there may be two problems: One is that there will be nothing new or worthwhile to learn or to consider. And two, is, it seems HGm is not towing your party’s line anymore.
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Excerpts from
HGm @ 3:28 am
“WE ALL don’t really know them, one way or another. All we know is what we are told, all the way around. No matter who it is we want to defend or attack.”
And – “It scares me to think what Haleigh would come back to. How would she ever be able to deal with this familial nightmare, after all SHE has been through? Is ANYONE considering that as they war back and forth? Even us here? The time has come for both sides to lay down their swords of Rightousness and to really take steps to try to find a place of peace & mutual respect. No matter who did what, they need to find it in themselves to make the effort.”
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I agree. I think it’s time to stop the family bashing and start trying to find out what happened to Haleigh.
Tobias, yes… I think that there is a “bigger picture” at stake. Possibly more causalities than what is suspected.
Tobias, I think I’m with you , I’m sliding outa’ here for awhile. see if it quiets down some. An awful lot of bickering goin’ on. God bless you all.
M2C, I do not want to mis-understand, what do you mean by party line?
there is nothing more to learn until the ones in jail tell us what they know.LE certainly will question them like they always have when someone gets arrested for some other offense not related to the case. But LE has said it runs parallel to the other case. jmo
Hi, cent! I was speaking to BlueMoon about her post at 6:23 pm. If you read it, you’ll get my drift.
M2C you are always on HGMS and my rears why is that? Just discuss the case and ignore our posts if you dont like them.moo
m2c♥ said,
in January 31st, 2010 at 7:51 am
Morning, Folks!
I had to put on my “hip-high waders” so to speak to slog thru all the manure that was spread around in here last night – thanks to Atta B, Jason, LFlorida, lingo123 etc. My gosh, you all can put out a LOT of that stinky stuff! No wonder you had to come out of your “caves” to spew. It must be downright foul in there! Lol! Try “Imodium.” I hear it really works!
I was trying to figure out why all this manure is being spewed again and then I read stg’s post @ 4:03 am which quoted the actual news report and the light bulb went on! Crystal has onlytemporary custody so far. So are Marie & Co doing what they do best? What they’re really famous for? Going on the net and spreading the dung? Or maybe there is some other reason for such deliberate hatefulness and lies?
good night all see ya lateer
tobias said,in January 31st, 2010 at 6:32 pm cent, I have this feeling that LE knows who it is but they want all of them and to be sure they have everyone that is involved. And they need just one to roll and the rest will come down like a house of cards. moo
Actually,I do agree on that one,not certain but it does almost seem so!!
They need to someone with fact’s i guess,maybe??
Or who know’s to find someone who know’s or was involved b/c they don’t have proof yet???
highwader’s…LoL
Oh, Tobias. If only you would actually read my posts! I was complimenting HGm. Not insulting her.
And I’ve written you two or three posts to let you know that LFlorida purposely mislead you about the post you just re-posted!
I’ll ask again, Tobias. Please read the rest of my post at 7:51am AND my 8:42am. Please read them for yourself. Don’t let other people lead you around by the nose.
This is a silly ? but it won’t be my last.lol But wasn’t Linsay trying to get her husband out of jail and now she turned over evidence pointing to him?? Or did i get the wrong info??
Cathy, please read the entire post @7:51 this morning. LFlorida and Tobias only re-posted part of it - the part that serves their purpose of course (although I’m hoping Tobias just hasn’t read all of it yet).
And read my 8:42am. Otherwise what’s being re-posted is very misleading.
It also makes me wonder why M told on him about the soap and stuff but not about Haleigh……..”if she did know”? something!!
k,will do!!
Cathy, I think you’re correct. I believe that Lindsey has taken LE “threats” to heart, concerning her children being removed. I also wonder if she realized that sometimes people DO get arrested/charged for “receiving” stolen goods!
Cathy, I read that Lindsey called the family’s usual bail agency to ask how much it would cost to bail him out. That’s when he was first arrested in the drug thing. Interesting that the bail agency said they offered to pay half of what Lindsey would have to pay (the Croslins being such good customers and all! LOL!)
So I don’t know if Lindsy was just curious or seriously wanted to bail him out. Or perhaps T’s parents wanted to know and asked her to call for them.
I don’t see either,all I see now is from 5:07 pm,
or is it in the old place?? LoL
Cathy @ 6:56 pm - I wonder that, too. Maybe M just thinks it’s him but has no proof. Her word against his wouldn’t be much. Would it? Or she’ll turn in “family” only so far and wants LE to do the rest of the work. I don’t know.
m2c♥ said,in January 31st, 2010 at 8:42 am Hi, protectkidz!
I guess I’m at the point where when Crystal is bashed for something I can see bashing the other side for something similar. Neither parent has been what any of us would call a “good” parent. For example, I do not see Crystal’s drug use, former choice of husband (crack-user) and giving birth to a baby with drugs in her system as “rising to the occasion” of the needs of the two children she already had. I could go on about Crystal. Then someone else can go on about Ron.
It’s a useless waste to me. It only harms the children (IMO) more than they’ve already been harmed.
I pray that Crystal takes advantage of this opportunity to be a real mom to her kids. I pray that Ron grows up and if he ever gets out of jail will mend his ways. I’m praying this for all the kids. (Not sure if Jordan is his, but I’ll include him anyway). But do you see what I’m trying to say?
If anyone really does have the children’s best interests at heart they won’t write the crap (true or not) that has been written because these children (hopefully including Haleigh) will grow up, will read this filth, and will have every right to hate people for this and who knows what toll on their characters and personalities and futures that will take?
Maybe they will choose to be better people than their parents. But with this kind of negativity as a foundation I’m afraid they may be so hurt or so damaged from this that they will choose to be (or not be able to prevent themselves from becoming) worse.
I don’t want to be even partly responsible for that. Unfortunately I already am because I wanted to see their father treated fairly and I was glad the truth about their mother came out - so people would know the truth. But we still don’t know the whole truth. We probably never will. We’re only heaping more damage on these kids. And it is NOT helping to find Haleigh.
If this isnt bashing Crystal well what is it?
M2C, I don’t really like to get in these squabbles, but perhaps Tobias feels that by you “complimenting” HGM, you were actually putting her and others down. Kinda like HGM has finally seen the light, thingy.
beautiful*adams (cent) said,in January 31st, 2010 at 6:58 pm Cathy, I think you’re correct. I believe that Lindsey has taken LE “threats” to heart, concerning her children being removed. I also wonder if she realized that sometimes people DO get arrested/charged for “receiving” stolen goods!
m2c♥ said,in January 31st, 2010 at 6:58 pm Cathy, I read that Lindsey called the family’s usual bail agency to ask how much it would cost to bail him out. That’s when he was first arrested in the drug thing. Interesting that the bail agency said they offered to pay half of what Lindsey would have to pay (the Croslins being such good customers and all! LOL!)
So I don’t know if Lindsy was just curious or seriously wanted to bail him out. Or perhaps T’s parents wanted to know and asked her to call for them.
ohh yea Right, I see what ya mean!!!!Was just curious,but if she’s smart…..She’d better get far away!!
Krissy said,in January 31st, 2010 at 6:21 pm Marie the Bible? Please ……… When you and Crystal have Bilbe study in your drug dwelling have her write in it what time Jr. gets out of school so she can get out of bed and pick him up…… Cause no one tells her these things….
LOL. I am sure glad he is going to school as the school will be able to keep check on him that he is being fed, kept healthy, clothed and kept clean.
Photos aren’t posted of times Ron was angry at Haleigh, for not going to bed, or ’sassing’ him, or when he disciplined her (in a manner he claims DCF approved of).
The photos posted were taken on birthdays, holidays, outdoor excursions, all happy, relaxed times.
Other than photos of Haleigh with a bruised face, photos selected for posting on the web are of happy moments.
Un-happy moments were probably not even photographed, as who does that?
Point is, you can’t read Ron and Haleigh’s entire relationship from photos of their happy timed only.
CathyJo…I would say Lindsay knew LE were going to search the house and find this stuff, and she didn’t want to get in trouble herself, so she told them about it. She is more interested in saving her own butt than Tommy’s, and I hope she soon tells the truth about what she knows about the night Haleigh went missing.
M2,I don’t see it now but I do remember earlier seeing (while catching up)
That you had been positive about one of her post’s b/c I thought….Oh Lord Elizabeth I’m coming…LoL
But I like Holly’s alot,she’s a nice lady and want’s Haleigh home and I’d tell her the same about you!
Which when I 1st met ya,I didn’t like ya so good and accused you of bashing,but now I know you’re here for the same reason we are…Sorry but I had to tell ya the trufe!! LoL
Then how do you know he did Jason??
not being a PITA just asking??
I do believe that Ron loves his daughter, and those photos reflect that. However, there are going to be those “”unhappy” moments in everyone’s life that will not be documented by a lens. And if they are/were documented, they would be utter fools to publish them.
Cent @ 7:02Pm - That’s possible. I hope not. Because I was not putting down HGm at all. I know that’s probably hard to believe (lol!) but it’s the truth. I was agreeing with HGm - and included the time of her post so everyone can read it for themselves (so the excerpt is not taken out of context like some people did to my posts today).
IMO though Jason,parent’s do that stuff in custody issues but she had those pix but none of Haleigh without the bruises??
LoL Adam’s,Jinx…..
Right M2,I know you were!!
No, I am not saying blame the angel Hank, I am saying that all those trying to wrap TN into Ronald’s drug charges is just awful. Saying that one was ring leader and poor Misty was made to sell Ronald’s drugs is just awful. Misty’s father was Dr. shopping to get pills, what do you suppose he was getting them for? And for the smart azz that wants to talk crap about who I follow, at least I am woman enough to come here under my normal hat, can’t say the same about you. I am no ones minion, I just look at facts and don’t by your rumors and speculation.I use to follow Marie to, and your point?
Cathy @ 7:09 pm. Thank you!
Sometimes people get the wrong impression of others because they have not seen all their posts. Or with one comment or a string of them, they have not seen the context and the progression of a train of thought or conversation or even the subject that started the discussion.
And people deliberately mis-quote others or re-post only part of a comment (like was done to me several times today) in order to make their adversaries look bad.
Wow…. Kim Novack had some wide-ass Dynasty shoulders!!!
lol ba cent you into kim novak aint she dead now/
Jason @ 7:03pm - So what does the near zero number of photos of C with the children mean?
I would not even be mentioning this but if you want to keep on bashing one parent, it’s only fair to talk about the other!
BTW- Do you have any interest in finding out what happened to Haleigh? Honestly. All I see are posts bashing her family. Just wondering why you are here?
IMO Searching,
I have wondered why he’d do that after everything else but imo I think maybe?? And it’s a maybe but i kinda started thinking maybe that’s why he accused Ron of trying to kill him incase other drug’s were found in his system should it be questioned!!!!
I thought you would be into Bette Davis eyes lol
m2c♥ said,in January 31st, 2010 at 7:20 pm Cathy @ 7:09 pm. Thank you!
Sometimes people get the wrong impression of others because they have not seen all their posts. Or with one comment or a string of them, they have not seen the context and the progression of a train of thought or conversation or even the subject that started the discussion.
And people deliberately mis-quote others or re-post only part of a comment (like was done to me several times today) in order to make their
adversaries look bad.
Understand, exactly!!
I was one of em’ not to long ago..lol
Didn’t know the fact’s just what i got in other forum’s!!!!!!!
Okay… that’s embarrassing, I was answering my sister’s text, or so I thought. I see I even spelled the Actress’ name wrong!
No Jason,my point was how do you know he beat on her??
Tobias @ 7:02 - Please read that post of mine again. I don’t think you are understanding it.
Unless you think saying one bad thing about C - as an example - to show the bashing on both sides - is out of line?
The whole point of that post is:
“I pray that Crystal takes advantage of this opportunity to be a real mom to her kids. I pray that Ron grows up and if he ever gets out of jail will mend his ways. I’m praying this for all the kids. . .
If anyone really does have the children’s best interests at heart they won’t write the crap (true or not) that has been written because these children (hopefully including Haleigh) will grow up, will read this filth, and will have every right to hate people for this and who knows what toll on their characters and personalities and futures that will take?”
(PS. Tobias, the above-mentioned “crap” is anything about any and all family members)
ba cent what was the party line thing? Were you ever let in on what was meant by that comment? lol moo
CathyJo63,
Are you asking ‘How do I know Ron killed Haleigh?’
If so, I must not have posted clearly. There is no evidence Haleigh is dead, so I assume she is still alive.
But, after viewing the ‘Welcome to the Jungle’ video, I am more concerned that she may not be alive.
‘People in the hood’ often know the truth, so, if the video truthfuly reflects their belief that Ron killed Haleigh, I am afraid they may be correct, as they know much more than we do.
Tobias, yes Bette is/was my girl. Kim is around, she’s like 76 now. I’m watching Vertigo, so is my Big Sister, only she has to keep calling/texting her endless questions. I’m The PoP Culture Encyclopedia of the family.
Jason, people in the hood didn’t make that video - people in the hood wouldn’t dedicate anything to LE - jmo
Didnt Alfred Hitchcock do that film? Loved the Birds. lol
LoL@ Adam’s……funny you mention it but in 99 and 2000 i lived in a forum about adoptee’s,A friend who was in the room was telling me a joke On msgr….and welll I was telling her one back when I looked up and saw “The dog licked him” OMG……to this day I’ve never used messenger,
Beautiful adams, that is too funny!!!! Enjoy your movie!!!!
They conStrew< every word you say?? LoL Sound’s familiar huh?
Tobias, yes he directed it. Cathy, I am not the best multitasking chick around.
No Jason,how do you know he hit her?? How do you know it’s true??
Heeee Heeeee
Right Jason,I see your point there but was asking how you knew by the pix,anybody can snap a pic of a kid when it has bruises!!For any reason!!
Right Jason,I see your point there but was asking how you knew by the pix,anybody can snap a pic of a kid when it has bruises!!For any reason!!Kid’s get hurt!
Tobias, if you have a question about what I wrote, please ask me.
“Party line” means agreeing with one line of thought.
I was saying that from what HGm has written recently it does not seem to me that she is in agreement with the other people BlueMoon included in that list. Nor does it look like Blue Moon has been reading her posts.
BAcent was it you that said you like boxer dogs too? There is one like my Tobias on you tube called Oscar the boxer, might want to check it out some time. Tobias looks exactly like him. lol
Jason,b/c parent’s fight and wait for opportunitoes to get dirt on the other,Kid’s get hurt everyday!!!!!
Jason, the person who is suspected of having created that video is a BLOGGER who does not personally know anyone in the family!
I didn’t know that’s what partyline meant,LoL Ty
M2,now i know sommin’
Tobias, not me… I’m a feline owner. I will check it out, I love those pet vids.
Tobias, I was agreeing with what HGm said. And my entire purpose in posting today can be summed up with this comment: “I think it’s time to stop the family bashing and start trying to find out what happened to Haleigh.”
Goodnight, Everyone!
Well lord how mercy,How do you know that???
Didn’t look like it with her nebulizer,at the beach..etc….
And for the record,I do NOT belive she isn’t among us!
Jason said,in January 31st, 2010 at 7:33 pm
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Jason, are you in the hood?
I think with the WTTJ video, someone is trying to tell some of the truth. What the truth is, Of Course I Don’t Know… But I am still very curious as to why LE has not had it removed.
CathyJo63 said,
in January 31st, 2010 at 7:44 pm
Right Jason,I see your point there but was asking how you knew by the pix,anybody can snap a pic of a kid when it has bruises!!For any reason!!Kid’s get hurt!
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Funny you mention that, I recently saw pics of Chloe with bruises on her legs. I however am not going to twist it into anything bad since I do not know for sure. I guess it is unheard of for a non custodial parent to use allegations of abuse to win in court..That is why they believe the stories, other than the fact they want to..
Amen M2,so do I!!
which video? Jungle or one I haven’t seen!!
Jungle
m2c,
Point is happy photos don’t reveal an entire relationship.
Easy to see there are fewer photos of Crystal and Haleigh posted on the web, but that doesn’t mean they don’t exist. She could have dozens of photo albums, or just a few.
Even if she posted hundreds of photos of herself and Haleigh in happy times, it would only tell us they had many happy moments.
Crystal may not want to share her family photo with strangers on the web, although posting many photos of Haleigh and herself in happy times might lead a web audience to conclude she had a very loving, nurturing, relationship with Haleigh.
Public opinion about whether or not she had as many happy times with her daughter as Ron did is not of any value in finding her daughter.
Some people are more private, they share with close friends and relatives, but not strangers on the interent.
For all we know, Crystal has many photo albums of herself and Haleigh.
If she does, great. If Ron does, great. If not, that’s OK, too.
I have friends who take photos every opportunity they get, and friends who don’t.
Some post a lot of family photos on Facebook and others don’t.
The ‘big picture’ of their familiar relationships can’t be determined by the quantity of happy family photos they post on the web.
where is this video at?
OFFTOPIC
FYI I blocked BM,because that is a lie,I gave none.
The reason I say that about LE… what if something does happen to him, isn’t the video sort of a tip off to everyone, especially LE?
***Tobias, The Birds is just coming on.. on BBC America***
Papa posted the video, Treece. Don’t know whether he made it.
m2c @ 7:44…
Tobias, if you have a question about what I wrote, please ask me.
“Party line” means agreeing with one line of thought.
I was saying that from what HGm has written recently it does not seem to me that she is in agreement with the other people BlueMoon included in that list. Nor does it look like Blue Moon has been reading her posts
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Do you have evidence and PROOF that I don’t communicate with Hollysgmom??? Where is your PROOF that I don’t have contact with her? I think mc2 it is HIGH TIME that quit “Calling the kettle black” my dear. You contradict ALOT of things you have already posted, it is laughable. You have delusions of grandeur!! Get off your high horse and face the facts.
And while your at it, get off of my back, Hollysgmom, tobias, Jason and anyone else you choose too reprimand on here. You are NOT the MOD, as far as I know, and you do nothing but POLICE the site for anyone that disagrees with you….
Huhhhh
WinterRose said,
in January 31st, 2010 at 8:00 pm
OFFTOPIC
FYI I blocked BM,because that is a lie,I gave none.
Searching said,in January 31st, 2010 at 7:55 pm CathyJo63 said,
in January 31st, 2010 at 7:44 pm
Right Jason,I see your point there but was asking how you knew by the pix,anybody can snap a pic of a kid when it has bruises!!For any reason!!Kid’s get hurt!
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Funny you mention that, I recently saw pics of Chloe with bruises on her legs. I however am not going to twist it into anything bad since I do not know for sure. I guess it is unheard of for a non custodial parent to use allegations of abuse to win in court..That is why they believe the stories, other than the fact they want to..
Agreed,How old is she now…..Chloe? Not that it matter’s about the bruises but I am curious??
If they’re 18 they shouldn’t be abused but I worry b/c I have been there but not with a small chil…..withdrawl’s are Hello and if she REALLY DOES try to stop IF SHE IS…..I know from experience,the least little thing will set you off!!and b/c she has 2 small children I worry!!
I mean for anyone who don’t know,withdrawls are like bird flu,mad cow,typhoid,broke bone’s and toothches and sore hair.amplified a thousand times!!
thanks cent may go watch it see you later hope some better news for tommorrow.Ilove bbc used to watch all the are you being served shows.
AND BLACK ADDER LOL
m2c,
Doesn’t know which family?
And, is there a reason you feel it is important that he know ‘the family’?
Tobias me toooooo, my favorites, see ya later! Gang, I will be back later. Cent
I flagged that video!!
It’s ignorant!!
bLUE MOON, I COMPLETELY AGREE. you might as well save your breath though and just ignore her. TO converse only gives gratification. see you on the flip side lol
Jason said,in January 31st, 2010 at 8:03 pm Papa posted the video, Treece. Don’t know whether he made it.
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He made it, he’s a smart man and if I were Ron I’d be very scared right now.
Jason said,in January 31st, 2010 at 7:59 pm m2c,
Point is happy photos don’t reveal an entire relationship.
Easy to see there are fewer photos of Crystal and Haleigh posted on the web, but that doesn’t mean they don’t exist. She could have dozens of photo albums, or just a few.
Even if she posted hundreds of photos of herself and Haleigh in happy times, it would only tell us they had many happy moments.
Crystal may not want to share her family photo with strangers on the web, although posting many photos of Haleigh and herself in happy times might lead a web audience to conclude she had a very loving, nurturing, relationship with Haleigh.
Public opinion about whether or not she had as many happy times with her daughter as Ron did is not of any value in finding her daughter.
Some people are more private, they share with close friends and relatives, but not strangers on the interent.
For all we know, Crystal has many photo albums of herself and Haleigh.
If she does, great. If Ron does, great. If not, that’s OK, too.
I have friends who take photos every opportunity they get, and friends who don’t.
Some post a lot of family photos on Facebook and others don’t.
The ‘big picture’ of their familiar relationships can’t be determined by the quantity of happy family photos they post on the web.
Exactly Jason,That’s why I asked why you belived that pic but refuse to belive r’s side?? too!!so that’s why I asked,why you believe it’s true by a pic??
Thanks Tobias, I just could not hold back on this one…But I understand what you mean.
And Yes, see you there!
I didn’t bring the pix up,you did Jason…..you said you believed she was beaten by him??? So I assumed you believed the pix were from a beating?? b/c how else would you know??
tobias said,in January 31st, 2010 at 8:13 pm bLUE MOON, I COMPLETELY AGREE. you might as well save your breath though and just ignore her. TO converse only gives gratification. see you on the flip side lol
Now that’s just rude!Sorry but it is!!
CathyJo63 said,in January 31st, 2010 at 8:21 pm I didn’t bring the pix up,you did Jason…..you said you believed she was beaten by him??? So I assumed you believed the pix were from a beating?? b/c how else would you know??
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Good point. I want to know the answer from him to about this. hmm!!
Ignore her b/c she has another opinion,I thought we all did!!
Exactly Ann,it just proves the point that they bash the R ppl!!!!!
And look for juvenile way’s to do it!!
CathyJo63,
Believe the picture of bruised Haleigh?
Yes, I beleive it is a picture of Haleigh with bruises, scrapes, and swelling on her face.
School reported she fell, Crystal doesn’t think that much brusing could result from the fall.
That’s all I know about that picture.
Is this same CathyJo from FF1? I am finding that hard to believe…
Jason said,in January 31st, 2010 at 7:03 pm Photos aren’t posted of times Ron was angry at Haleigh, for not going to bed, or ’sassing’ him, or when he disciplined her (in a manner he claims DCF approved of).
The photos posted were taken on birthdays, holidays, outdoor excursions, all happy, relaxed times.
Other than photos of Haleigh with a bruised face, photos selected for posting on the web are of happy moments.
Un-happy moments were probably not even photographed, as who does that?
Point is, you can’t read Ron and Haleigh’s entire relationship from photos of their happy timed only.
So I asked you then why did you believe in angry times and so forth he beat her and I assumed cs pix!
CathyJo63,
Show me, please, where you read a post from me in which I said Haleigh’s face was bruised by Ron?
Better yet, I’ll save you time searching and just tell you that it doesn’t exist.
Even if that were true Jason,how do you know RONALD did it??
i think someone is posting under CathyJo, that someone, is not her!! She WOULD NOT SAY these things…
Yes it is BlueMoon,and why is it hard to believe,
Beacause it is not you, the Cathy Jo I KNOW and have read on other blogs….Fess up
Jason, I feel sorry for you obsessing over this crap. Geraldo tried to use those pictures too.
He had to come back and say that the school and emergency room both verified that happened at school exactly like Haleigh said it did. Imagine that.
Tobias, Jason,
Someone else is posting under CathyJo’s nic, that is NOT her, I KNOW it.
Jason said,in January 31st, 2010 at 7:03 pm Photos aren’t posted of times Ron was angry at Haleigh, for not going to bed, or ’sassing’ him, or when he disciplined her (in a manner he claims DCF approved of).
The photos posted were taken on birthdays, holidays, outdoor excursions, all happy, relaxed times.
Other than photos of Haleigh with a bruised face, photos selected for posting on the web are of happy moments.
Un-happy moments were probably not even photographed, as who does that?
Point is, you can’t read Ron and Haleigh’s entire relationship from photos of their happy timed only.
I guess I got it from this post!
Above…Cathy does not write that way…
Blue Moon,
Posts from ‘CathyJo63′ are very ’space-cadety’. Scores very low on reading comprehension, I’m sure.
OMG Tobias,FESS UP???????????
I think everyone here knows i did a 180 in the past week,how dare you act like a dang child b/c thing’s ain’t going your way. Hmmmmmm if you know it on me,let’s hear it,betcha I’ll come out the same!!!!!!!!!!!!
That is so childish!!!!!
Again, Cathy does not write that way, thanks for the extra !!!!!!!!!!!!!
But that is NOT HER!!!!!
But I do know or atleast think you’re talking about FF1…………HUNNY,YOU CAN TELL WHATEVER IT IS U THINK YOU HAVE ON ME,i’LL STILL TELL THE TRUTH AND YES PLEASE po0st my comment’s,not a one I won’t deny if infact i did!!
Jason,that’s childish!!
Wasn’t screaming everyone,forgot cap’s!
Are you having fun??? You think this is funny? WHAT UP??
Treece,
CathyJo63 made that up. I posted about photos, but did not say Ron caused the bruises on Haleigh, as seen on one of her pictures.
Not a one I will deny,lol
Blue moon I couldv’e vouched that u talk to Hgmom a sec ago but did i?? No and that’s how i know you were trying to mmmmm blackmail me??
I ain’t got a thing to hide!
I have and will have a BEEF with you FOREVER, You no good pieces of chit. I am on you….SMILE!!!!
Blue Moon said,in January 31st, 2010 at 8:44 pm
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What is differnt about CathyJo? Ask Jan she will tell you the truth.IMO Blue post to Jan here.
Cathy the post wasnt about you. it was about a person that always attacks me when I say something they dont like and bluemoon knows who i was reering to and it was not you. so if you thought it wa i am sorry.
Well Cathy Jo It appears that you are a lunatic…so SEE YA!
I don’t make anything up Jason,TY!
Jason said,in January 31st, 2010 at 7:03 pm Photos aren’t posted of times Ron was angry at Haleigh, for not going to bed, or ’sassing’ him, or when he disciplined her (in a manner he claims DCF approved of).
The photos posted were taken on birthdays, holidays, outdoor excursions, all happy, relaxed times.
Other than photos of Haleigh with a bruised face, photos selected for posting on the web are of happy moments.
Un-happy moments were probably not even photographed, as who does that?
Point is, you can’t read Ron and Haleigh’s entire relationship from photos of their happy timed only.
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I guess I got it from this post!
Everyone here has their own little clicks here…instead of being in Haleigh click…what the hell is going on here? Be adults..Haleigh needs us to be her voice.Get over it Kids.GROW UP!!!!!!
and Jason,Please don’t tattle in class till you raise your hand!!
Childish!!
LOL, Blue Moon, ‘lunatic; - thanks for confirmaing my impression of her.
I was sitting here thinking, what the hey, am I the only one who thinks this CathyJo is commenting like a total fruitcake?
Tobias,do you honestly think that i give a rat’s hind end about you on me 4ever!!
Haha I can handle it!!
Iwas refering to the post 804
Someone needs their meds tonight see you all later. Moon I hope you are right and this isnt the cathy you know.moo
I think you guys have had a mis understanding. It looks to me like you are reacting to the wrong post etc. Before you get mad and hate each other look back and maybe see that it is a mistake. Not trying to invade just think yall have misunderstood what each other were saying and then maybe over reacted.
It’s alway’s her!!!!
She simply loves to argue and she bashes people who doesn’t agree and people who DO agree,I think it goes with whatever mood she’s in and who will fight with her so she look’s like the good one and know’s it all!
I told her my last comment to her was the last and I refused to have a battle of wit’s with an unarmed person!
She was bashing people for their opinion’s the first time I had ever posted,and I called her on it and then she attacked me! So,I’m sorry but I’ll take alot but after awhile heck no!! She think’s and want’s to be the one who spread’s the new’s and accuse other’s of gossiping,h*ll yea,I was born female and that give’s me the right to gossip……LoL She was saying only fact’s should be posted and I just said,” It would be an empty forum cause nobody know’s those except the one’s who did it!”
Haha I told M2 today that I didn’t like her
before but hey I’ll roll with ya!!!!!!!!!!!But I do like her now that I know her!! Now if you wanna post what you said about her to Gmom be my guest!!!
and everyone here know’s i had a drug problem so back up off me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It’s the right one,in the fleshhhhh!!!!!!
Now,you got the rest of the night to try and find what u think you know!!!
I would suppose I would need the WHOLE NIGHT to figure out what in the hell you said??? You are so Random and don’t really make alot of sense…sadly…
I think about is how her life is changed as is his when I now know he did protect her!! Maybe he didn’t make good choices but he really honestly adored her and I can see it,but cs had to doctor just 1 photo!
I had never laid eye’s on my birthDUD but twice since I had been adopted though both were divorced they each lived 10 minute’s away my entire life,My Adopted parent’s were their neighbor who agreed to take me in after they’d taken me door to door and my Adopted parent’s already had 13 bio kid’s all married except a son in highschool….and one of those times I saw him was in 1990 at his funeral and the only reason I ever went was b/c my Adopted Father asked me too b/c he said,Sissy,Can you go because I don’t want you to regret anything, and the 2nd I walked through the door with my husband some people came up to me and said,Cathy,he alway’s loved you and he was a good man,I took my husband’s hand and walked out the door and even asked the funeral director to let me out because they had our car’s lined up in order to go to the burial,Then in 2000 my bio m#m passed in 2000,not a month after my Amom passed!and I didn’t even go to my bio m#m’s funeral!
I know you have thing’s to do but I dunno what’s wrong with me today but thanks for listening to me rant!!
Holly’s,You don’t have to explain to me,my whole life has been a revolving door around that life too,I don’t tell ppl much b/c it’s hard to know they won’t hold it against you somehow or judge you for it,That’s why i say all the time,I can understand it but a person in that frame of mind Holly’s can see no happiness in their life without their familiar surrounding’s,or it’s easier sometime to keep it the way it is because you are used to it,I’ve said,no one is perfect,no one is an angel not even me,I don’t hide it,I am actually prouder every day of my life now!it’s just I want ppl to believe me when I tell them b/c it’s hard for me to trust ANYONE!WHY IT TOOK ME SO LONG TO OPEN UP EVEN TO YOU! Sorry forgot cap’s again!!!!
I fought that battle all my life basically,in one way or another someone i either knew or myself!!!
As of 4-28th,2010 I am as sober as a judge FOR 5 year’s ..prolly more sober than some judges i see….LoL I fought it,I laid on my couch with a fever of 104,even my dr. told me i’d go into a seizure and die,I could NOT do it alone….LoL HERE I AM!!!! But i had double pneumonia,
withdrawl’s from h*ll,I have had a pacemaker since i was 14 yrs.old,was killing myself and didn’t know it,don’t know if i even cared then really, and when my husband was murdered in 2003 I started taking 20 hydro 10’s a day,i weighed 87 lbs…40 year’s old and seller’s coming in my door were sent away,I left my seller’s owing them money so I couldn’t go back,I told them i was getting clean and if they came back i would have the cop’s lead them out!
So I just wanted you to know me i guess,b/c by now I know i trust you!! and you owe me nothing,I am no different than anybody else…..just smarter than I’ve ever been and my Grandson brought me back to life,he didn’t deserve a strung out Granny!!
So thank you for being just one more person who throw’s the past in my face!!
CathyJo63 said,in January 31st, 2010 at 9:03 pm It’s the right one,in the fleshhhhh!!!!!!
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its ok…dont worry over this stuff. We like you here and just the way u are. hugs.
That what I have posted other than here!!! So i put it out,anyone can go over there and read it??
Sorry but until now I dont think anyone knew that. As far as the she were you refering to me? I hope not because I do not think I am always right, and the only time we had a discussion was when we talked about the pictures and I said alot of people who have wonderful pictures were proven later to be killers/. And refered to Caylee and Caseys pictures and the petersons and Susan Smiths. I think you base too much on pictures is all I WAS SAYING. MOO
THIS is the CathyJo that I know…but oddly I have heard this before….please let me know that YOU are ok…I need proof that you are okay, this post is an old repeat….You KNOW where to go@!
But I will say this,Never will I say one word to you again!
Ty for teaching me another hard lesson!!
I was referring to MT,Thats what I had posted under your comment on Holly’s forum!!!
What are you talking about?
Blue Moon said at 8:04 pm: You said, “Do you have evidence and PROOF that I don’t communicate with Hollysgmom??? Where is your PROOF that I don’t have contact with her?”
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I was referring to HGm’s recent posts on BNN. Your earlier comment seemed to indicate you were not aware of some of them.
Are you saying that HGm posts a different point of view elsewhere than she does here?
I wouldn’t know. I can only go by what I see here.
Blue Moon,is your head screwed on backward’s,yea b/c I am a friend of Hgmom and she (I don’t have the right to post what she said ) but something strange happened to her the other night and Ann was here too,and I was worried about Holly’s!!!!!!!
WTH is wrong with you ppl,using crap that is welllllll just out there!!!!!!!!!!
Why do i care who know’s it,if it worried me i sure wouldn’t post it on the WWW!
M2 know’s I didn’t like her,but you were gonna use it but what you didn’t know was i already had!
CathyJo - The “Dark Side” often accuses people of not being who they really are. It’s a common type of attack. And “talking” to some is like ramming your head into a brick wall except the brick wall really enjoys it.
They do have other places to go but like to come here because they like to fight, stir the pot, and spread the manure. I have not seen one hint that they are here to find Haleigh.
Don’t let them get their jollies from upsetting you.
Hgmom and I have 2 diff theories but we still get along!!! We rarely agree on the situation!!
But it doesn’t mean she’s a bad person,I like her,I didn’t at first,just like M2! But both turned out to be ppl I like alot!! Just as I do allllllll the ppl here!
We’ve had disagreement’s but I never had M2 or Hgmom throw it up to me!!
If anything they’ve been very supportive!!!!
Well thank you for the posts “Ladies”… Now I KNOW who you are!!!! Cheers!
Right MT,Funny how she said,if the SHE is me??
I don’t think Im alway’s right,I was talking about you..sheeeesh
Ok… I too for a second had to take another look in regards to the last few posts. No offense CathyJo, but I too became concerned for you. And I have no hidden agenda, I have grown very fond of you these last few days. Yes, you have changed your opinions about the case, and I respect that, that is your privilege and everyone else’s to do just that. I may not fully agree, but I still am crazy about you… just the same:-D
Blue Moon said,in January 31st, 2010 at 9:33 pm Well thank you for the posts “Ladies”… Now I KNOW who you are!!!! Cheers!
Nothing left to use huh??
Ty tho for the toilet paper,i was out!
It is always good to sit back a bit and watch the pathetic, squander…GAME ON!!!!
Cathy Jo, You are SOOOO out of your league… Sorry….
I think I am lost in regards to the back and forth banter…. and I think I shall choose to remain lost!!
Adam’s,
That just show’s you’re one of few ppl left in the world that does care about ppl!!!!
I asked for a truce.did I not,And I’ve watched those 2 come in and bash,bash,bash everyone and I’ve had it with the games and I wanted yall to c what she had on me,now tho I am confused,what she tought it would help!!!
I live in the state of confusion but this is ridiculous!
I really dont understand yet if you are refering to me or not. M2C and I KNOW WHERE WE STAND. i WILL NOT RESPOND NEGITIVELY OR OTHERWISE TO HER STATEMENTS AND WOULD LIKE THE SAME COURTESY. i HAVE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM WITH ANY OF YOUR POSTS AND UNTIL NOW NEVER KNEW YOUR LIFE STORY.Sorry for the caps my keyboard acts up. I comend you on your sobriety also. moo
and when she threatened it i did it for her,theres not 1 thing i’ve said that I’ll lie about?? ya know,and i didn’t want you guy’s to think she had it on me,b/c that’s what they do here,the basher’s..try to turn you against one another!
and that’s the only reason I kept going!!
Sorry if I offeneded anyone!!!!!!
m2c♥ said,in January 31st, 2010 at 9:27 pm CathyJo - The “Dark Side” often accuses people of not being who they really are. It’s a common type of attack. And “talking” to some is like ramming your head into a brick wall except the brick wall really enjoys it.
They do have other places to go but like to come here because they like to fight, stir the pot, and spread the manure. I have not seen one hint that they are here to find Haleigh.
Don’t let them get their jollies from upsetting you.
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I totally agree.
I don’t belong to a league,back to show your ignorance I see!!
Exactly Tobias,you didn’t but chose to ridicule me instead!
You know what I see…The REAL Cathy is not posting on here this is m2c posting and all of her FRIENDS, I know who you are…
Not Tobias,i thought BM said that,I apologize for directing that comment to you!
when did I ridicule you show me
Well this is fun…a bunch of cops posting on our blog!!!! Are we famous??? I know you “little girls”….And you all know what I think of you too with your “Little Girl” in PRISON!!!!
get over it bm,dear God what’s wrong with you!
are you in the 2nd grade or what? You are making a spectacle of yourself,sorry I have to say that but you leave no choice! Do u think the other’s wanna hear this??
I mean seriously………I am certain they waited for dayssssssss for you to expose all my evil sin!!!!!!
I WILL NEVER BE DONE!!!!
LoL I did!
Ole age and Menopause!!and 2 many eye’s!
GOOD THEN i WON’T HAVE TO TAKE THE FORK OUT!
Again, Cathy ….Have NO IDEA what you are talking about!!!
What the sam he77 is going on really this is out of my league. moo
Did I strike a NERVE????
Actually it’s kinda fun arguing with an idiot,makes me feel important!
Tobias…NO IDEA!!!
No mam,how the hello can u strike my nerve?
I got plenty,it’s just the one for you is raw!
LOL LOL Well bring it on my sis, if you think that I am an idiot!!!! LOL
CathyJo63 said,in January 31st, 2010 at 9:59 pm
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let this go and go to levis show about haleigh.
NO MORE,THAT’S IT!!!!!
I quit,I will take you own advice,ignore!!
Cathy, unless I am missing something, I do NOT believe Blue Moon was trying to “out” you on anything.
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Blue Moon said,
in January 31st, 2010 at 9:55 pm
Well this is fun…a bunch of cops posting on our blog!!!! Are we famous??? I know you “little girls”….And you all know what I think of you too with your “Little Girl” in PRISON!!!!
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/levipage/2010/02/01/drug-bust-in-haleigh-cummings-investigation
Good than go to a mirror. This blog is about Haleigh and not you and whether anyone agrees with you and your rants tonight only proves it
I dont know what started this but you have nearly shut down the whole blog, are you proud of yourself? I hope so. jmo
got caught up in the moment Tobias,but no i didn’t mean you….I am sorry!!
I know you didn’t
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tobias said,in January 31st, 2010 at 9:44 pm I really dont understand yet if you are refering to me or not. M2C and I KNOW WHERE WE STAND. i WILL NOT RESPOND NEGITIVELY OR OTHERWISE TO HER STATEMENTS AND WOULD LIKE THE SAME COURTESY. i HAVE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM WITH ANY OF YOUR POSTS AND UNTIL NOW NEVER KNEW YOUR LIFE STORY.Sorry for the caps my keyboard acts up. I comend you on your sobriety also. moo
No Adam’s this was way before that! b/c Jason and I wre talking about pix!!
Tobias…that is NOT the SAME Cathy Jo we know…I am not sure who it is, but it is NOT her!!!!
Hey gang!
Not pulling any party lines these days….It’s every man for himself/herself these days. ALL family members are victims (unless found to be involved) and ALL have had a past….maybe not criminal, but a past no less. Especially multiple marriages….yeesh! ALL are human and ALL have made serious & grave mistakes in the past. There is no making up for that, not now not ever! All that THEY (meaning everyone) can do is try to move forward and make thier best effort to make positive changes. ALL need to realize that a torn & divided family offers no support, comfort, or PROTECTION. All it can do is to further alienate the children from each other, each parent, & family member. I know first hand how damaging it is to have your father/mother say horrible & terrible things about the other. What it’s like to have the Grandparents involved and insisting that their child has done no wrong and it’s only the other parent’s fault. It’s sickening…..
As per bloggers posting here or elsewhere….it is my considered opinion that NONE of the people involved should ever read this stuff. Period! If adults choose to, great! However, the children should be warned about this stuff PRIOR to being able to read it word for word, and told that this was the time “before”. Meaning before the families drew together and really started being a FAMILY!!! What they had before was ridiculous. I know all about how people want to control children and feel that if their “side” has the child then they are now in control. I will forever be most saddened by the fact that these two families who share 2 beautiful children, couldn’t see beyond themselves; their wants, desires, & dreams, to see what was REALLY in the best interest of these children. You want to know what that would have been? An open & honest relationship wherein neither parent felt SUPERIOR to the other. Both felt welcomed at each others door for visitations/Holidays/ etc..Where the children didn’t even have a thought as to a tug-o-war going on over them. Where Grandmothers (on both sides) treat their Mom/Dad with equal respect and LOVE. You know, a family who actually PUT THESE CHILDREN FIRST, even over their own petty BS pursuits & feelings. Too much to ask for? Not a bit! It’s what we (about 50 family members) are doing FOR Holly. It’s not always easy, it’s not always fun, but BY GOD she will know, beyond a SHADOW of a doubt, above ALL, we Love her enough to do these things IN HER NAME & for HER! If there are questions as to the child(ren)’s safety, it should be handled by the proper authorities and not fought amonst themselves.
JMO…..
CathyJo63 said,in January 31st, 2010 at 8:21 pm I didn’t bring the pix up,you did Jason…..you said you believed she was beaten by him??? So I assumed you believed the pix were from a beating?? b/c how else would you know??
CathyJo63 said,in January 31st, 2010 at 8:23 pm tobias said,in January 31st, 2010 at 8:13 pm bLUE MOON, I COMPLETELY AGREE. you might as well save your breath though and just ignore her. TO converse only gives gratification. see you on the flip side lol
Now that’s just rude!Sorry but it is!!
AnneInTn said,in January 31st, 2010 at 8:24 pm CathyJo63 said,in January 31st, 2010 at 8:21 pm I didn’t bring the pix up,you did Jason…..you said you believed she was beaten by him??? So I assumed you believed the pix were from a beating?? b/c how else would you know??
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Good point. I want to know the answer from him to about this. hmm!!
CathyJo63 said,in January 31st, 2010 at 8:24 pm Ignore her b/c she has another opinion,I thought we all did!!
CathyJo63 said,in January 31st, 2010 at 8:26 pm Exactly Ann,it just proves the point that they bash the R ppl!!!!!
CathyJo63 said,in January 31st, 2010 at 8:27 pm And look for juvenile way’s to do it!!
Jason said,in January 31st, 2010 at 8:27 pm CathyJo63,
Believe the picture of bruised Haleigh?
Yes, I beleive it is a picture of Haleigh with bruises, scrapes, and swelling on her face.
School reported she fell, Crystal doesn’t think that much brusing could result from the fall.
That’s all I know about that picture.
Blue Moon said,in January 31st, 2010 at 8:30 pm Is this same CathyJo from FF1? I am finding that hard to believe…
That’s how it started,and Maybe i did mistake one of Tobias,but lord never meant it to her,just me and jason were talking about pix and BM decides to jump in with nasty little remark’s about my past!
Dang…I go to post (a rather long one, I know…I’m bad about it) and a huge fight breaks out!!! What’s going on guys? Several of you are my friends and I want us all to be friends?
Blue Moon, your behaviour is coming across as intimidating and threatening and totally inappropriate. How old are you? 6? If you are an adult, that is deeply concerning. I think your time would be far better spent in therapy than posting your dribble here.
CathyJo…please just ignore them. They are not worth your time or energy.
THANK THE LORD FOR HOLLYSGMOM!!!!
Nobody has “rolled” on anybody, and most likely won’t. I think we can take that to mean they know NOTHING about where Haleigh is (covering for one another? THAT group of cockroaches will sell out their mother for a deal). Does not surprise me, as Misty was on a toot for 3 days, and was still groggy and fuzzy that night, as the 911 tapes show. She may never remember anything. Now this is scary…..if that bunch know nothing about Haleigh, will we EVER know what happened to her? Just heartbreaking.
Holly …why are you posting here if you dont want us to read it? Hmm
because I posted them in F11!
me @10:13 WOW, YOU find me threatening!! Poor thing…and NO I am NOT 6 I am 36!! I find the that you DRIBBLE about Ronald very alarming and WEIRD!!! How bout that? Why don’t you wake up and smell the crap my friend??? It is all AROUND this case!!!!
hOLLY’S SCROLL WAY UP TO SEE WHAT HAPPENED.LOL
I don’t want you hearing i said anything about you,cause i haven’t but BM seemed to think everyone here should know all my posts from f11!
Not your’s,mine!Sorry!!
My post about ignoring was in reference to m2c comment to Moon 804 it was not directed at cathy and yes instead of fighting it is better to ignore.moo
the personal thing’s about me!
Blue Moon…your posts say it all…I won’t reply to you so don’t waste your time posting to me. This thread is about Haleigh.
I agree,there are alot of cover-up’s somewhere!
Yep - the thread is ABOUT HALEIGH!! I have no idea what you mean “Me”…
Blue Moon said,in January 31st, 2010 at 8:34 pm i think someone is posting under CathyJo, that someone, is not her!! She WOULD NOT SAY these things…
CathyJo63 said,in January 31st, 2010 at 8:34 pm Yes it is BlueMoon,and why is it hard to believe,
Blue Moon said,in January 31st, 2010 at 8:36 pm Beacause it is not you, the Cathy Jo I KNOW and have read on other blogs….Fess up
That one Holly’s,so i fessed up!
Is this the REAL CathyJo? That is what I am having a HARD time believing…
Ann,I listened to the bnn,saw u guy’s chatting,i didnt chat but listened,is that what you mean?
Was looking at a few family/friends from Misty’s myspace and noticed Misty posted this pic and link of Haleigh.. I find it weird to be putting Haleigh’s pic on a dating site and asking people to vote if they like her or not. It also looks like her poor little arm has bad bruises and a bite mark..
http://www.doulike.us/photos/7133610.html?b=4&w=46
OK…if it is the REAl you, send me a PM within 15 minutes….it is 10:33pm…IF you don’t I KNOW it is not you….
PS, only the REAL Cathy could send me a PM…
Holy moly guys, get a grip! Challenging comments is fine, but why bring in personal issues that do not pertain to this case? Are you friend/relatives of either side? If so, you are more than welcome on the board to tell your side of things. I, for one, would love to hear some insider information.
Blue moon you know this is me ,i hope, i posted on f11 just recently during the arguement.You can see it in the comments. And its about something entirely unrelated. Its about the show and how no one really knows who donna brock is .Isnt that a hoot is she who she says she is?moo
/me wonder’s where she left her lighter
Need to light a wick!
I for one am not a relative thank god. i live in ohio fyi
Tobias!! I am with you!!
did she pm you?
I dont understand why this is getting so personal. The only ones I see that have a right to such strong emotions are people who are friends and relatives. If I expended half the amount of energy into this blog, I would have no energy left for my own life.
you and me Bonanza!
AnneInTn said,in January 31st, 2010 at 10:15 pm Holly …why are you posting here if you dont want us to read it? Hmm
“As per bloggers posting here or elsewhere….it is my considered opinion that NONE of the people involved should ever read this stuff. Period! If adults choose to, great! However, the children should be warned about this stuff PRIOR to being able to read it word for word, and told that this was the time “before”. ”
I was speaking directly about the Parents, Grand-parents, FAMILY members….Why did I post it if I think they shouldn’t read it? Hopefully to illistrate how they should act as opposed to how they ARE acting. Do I think any of them will take the advice? Nope….
Because its about a little girl that either needs to be found or get justice, thats why I am here. moo good night all
Tobias, email her and have her give you my email…
Read the comments after you have had a good nights sleep. The exchanges below will not be helpful in the search for Haleigh.
I will tomorrow blue moon I need to sleep i have to get up for work at 4. moo
I’m not a friend or relative, in fact, I have never personally met people like this Satsuma group in my life.. I pray for the children in this tragedy, but the whole lot of adults in this tragic story are a mess and not a one I would trust with my child for 5 seconds.
I am fine,had sleep but Bonanza,I think it was off the wall for someone to threaten exposing things i shared with someone in an unrelated discussion,to me that’s childish!and it takes ya right back to what you were afraid of in the beginning,that it would be used agaiinst you,I can only imagine if i’d have been in a strange forum for the 1st time and no one knew what was up,and yes,I take great offence to that!
Pppl like that are dangerous!! That’s my opinion!
or my dog Fl!
Blue Moon,
Has the alleged imposter sent a PM yet?
Nope, not my dog either, Cathyjo..
They might sell him for drugs..
A tiny, tiny yorkie could get them a quick buck..
NO Jason, she has not…still waiting…
Ohhh Yea,Those are pretty dog’s too!! A woman I know in ky had one and her neighbor’s did just that!Now that’s bad!!
I saw on the new’s about a year back where these I think 4 guy’s broke into a home and stole an entire litter,were caught on camera too!!Dunno what happened later but sad what ppl will do!!
I had a rat terrier,Her name was MissKitty!
Random Thoughts, by Jack Handy…
I guell I’m off to bed and maybe these 2 will get a bath,fed and diaper changing and nap so they’ll be ready for another day tomorrow!
Good night everyone!
Goodnight babies!! Can’t leave you 2 out!
Remember I tried but after awhile it just fades away!
I REALLY DO NOT understand you!!
I saw that too, CathyJo.. They put them in garbage bags..
Blue Moon,
Good, CJ went to bed; must have finally taken her meds.
Experts on Levi Page show say Ron exhibits the characteristics of a psychopath. A little surprised, as I thought he might be a sociopath.
I agree Jason Sociopath fits, for sure!!
Sorry LOl at 11:30!!
Hi everyone,
Just to let everyone know I looked back and the CathyJo63 on here is the same one that has been commenting here. I don’t know why anyone would accuse her of being someone else but she is the same one that have been in here unless there is something that I am not aware of. I have talked to her before in emails and in my opinion she is just a concerned parent like the rest of us are so please stop the accusations.
PLEASE let this drop as it is disrupting everyone else. We are not here to accuse anyone of wrongdoing, we are here to discuss Haleigh Cummings and try to find out how to get her home.
Let’s remember also that everyone is entitled to their own opinion even if you don’t happen to agree. It can be discussed in an orderly fashion like adults. If that is not possible then I have to ask that you just ignore the person you disagree with so it doesn’t start a fight.
We have to ask this in order to keep the comment section opened to everyone.
Thank you all in advance for your cooperation.
Jan Barrett = BNN Editor
Jason,
Both psychopaths and sociopaths have a complete disregard for the feelings and rights of others.
Both the psychopath and sociopath fail to feel remorse or guilt. They appear to lack a conscience and are completely self-serving. They routinely disregard rules, social mores and laws, unmindful of putting themselves or others at risk.
The sociopath tends to be less organized in his or her demeanor, nervous and easily agitated – someone likely living on the fringes of society, without solid or consistent economic support. A sociopath is more likely to spontaneously act out in inappropriate ways without thinking through the consequences.
He could be a little of both…
The DSM-IV lists both definitions together under the heading of Antisocial Personalities because they share some common traits. Many use the terms sociopathy, psychopathy and antisocial personality disorder (APD) interchangeably. Professionals not only dispute whether there is a difference between a sociopath and a psychopath, but among those that believe there is a difference, there is dispute over what those differences are.
flgirl, interesting. Thank-you. I assumed a psychopath would have psychotic episodes, need drugs to function.
Ummmm. Well Jan Folks accused that individual because some of us thought we knew her and then some did NOT…I Know that this was NOT the same person… Sorry Jan.
Blue Moon,
Maybe different people posting from the same computer.
YW, Jason..
Both are anti-social behaviors.
Some doctors call them sociopaths, others refer to them as psychopaths. Either way, the terms are used to describe individuals who have a range of personality disorders. These people are not certifiably mentally ill, they are biological carriers of socially and personally problematic traits. Such traits may have been manifested from childhood.
Read more:
http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Anti-social+behaviour
Jasn, more than likely!@
Jason said,in January 31st, 2010 at 11:33 pm Experts on Levi Page show say Ron exhibits the characteristics of a psychopath. A little surprised, as I thought he might be a sociopath
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In the last few yrs, they have been used as one in the same for all intents and purposes and Ron fits that definition to a T
flgirl said,in January 31st, 2010 at 11:50 pm The DSM-IV lists both definitions together under the heading of Antisocial Personalities because they share some common traits. Many use the terms sociopathy, psychopathy and antisocial personality disorder (APD) interchangeably. Professionals not only dispute whether there is a difference between a sociopath and a psychopath, but among those that believe there is a difference, there is dispute over what those differences are
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Thanks for bringing over the DSM categories, I should have read down further before posting!
Just one, I think a lot of folks in Satsuma fit that bill. It must be the water.
IMO, these experts are fools for claiming to be able to diagnosis someone they’ve never even met. Their diagnosis is based on snippets they see on tv. Very unprofessional, but I suppose it helps them pay the bills, as it gets them on NG & the like.
me, one only has to look at his anti-social behaviors..
a condition characterized by repetitive behavioral patterns that are contrary to usual moral and ethical standards and cause a person to experience continuous conflict with society. Symptoms include aggression, callousness, impulsiveness, irresponsibility, hostility, a low frustration level, marked emotional immaturity, and poor judgment. A person who has this disorder overlooks the rights of others, is incapable of loyalty to others or to social values, is unable to experience guilt or to learn from past behaviors, is impervious to punishment, and tends to rationalize his or her behavior or to blame it on others.
flgirl,
You don’t even know him, nor do they. You are basing your judgment on snippets you see on tv of a man you never even knew existed til his daughter went missing. And it seems you are also basing your opinion on what some drug addicts have said about him.
Experts meet with, interview and test their subjects before diagnosing them. This is just sensationalist bs.
And my last statement since I couldn’t sleep is you want Jan to beleieve you were bashing me for some other weird reason,but you knew me,I told you I was the same CathyJo63 and you said,FF1….So you got in a trap and now you want ppl to think you did not set out to bash me and just by your post’s,anyone know’s better,I do not trust you! People who cower are dangerous people,so don’t play it off like you didn’t target me!!
After this post You will know why I will never speak to you again! IMO You are 2 faced,a bully and a troublemaker but when you get trapped you act like a sheep in wolves clothing!! The very kind of person I have learned to steer clear of…so dont bother to reply b/c it will fall on deaf ear’s!!!!
I have met 2 people in my entire life I cannot forgive,and you my friend are #2.
I take threat’s very seriously,believe me!!I learned the hard way!
This is my personal pc,I live alone Jason!
HaLeigh?
Anyone?
I rarely ever post anything, anymore, because people are being so rude on here. I think there are many more that are backing off, also. I really enjoyed this site, and I don’t understand why everyone can’t repect each other’s opinions. I really enjoyed posting on this site for a long time, but I don’t feel free to offer an opinion, anymore.
Karon, I agree. Great comment and very restrained! “Rude?” How about vicious? LOL!
“Respect other’s opinions?” How about being allowed to have one that does NOT hammer another nail into R (and family)? Well, that’s not allowed, that’s attacked.
But from what I’ve seen it basically boils down to about a half-dozen and that’s all they want to do, it seems. And some must have gotten nail guns for Christmas! (Ugh)
A few have been blogging here a while - maybe only one for as long as you have. And some are pretty new here. They can ALL go to other well-known R bashing blogs, so I have to wonder why are they doing this here and now?
Some possibilities:
1) To get the blog closed down. If they cause enough fights, Simon will close down the comments section. There are lots of people out there who hate BNN (and the bloggers here) and would LOVE to see that happen!
2) Some people are just bullies. They blog here to vent their own problems.
3) Any other ideas, anyone?
I don’t feel like “giving” the the board to people like that. And I’m not going to.
Karon, please post your thoughts and lets try to keep the blog not only “open” but “open-minded” enough to allow lots of opinions. Okay?
morning karon, you are a very polite, kind, and respectful poster here. you made me feel welcome a while back, thank you very much! i remember you helped me catch up some - of what was going on. i do agree about thinking many more people do not participate because of the ongoing bickering instead of discussing.
i think it was a week or two ago, tj commented about the fact he wondered if some posters really were working to shut this all down and i think jan agreed with his comment, that she had wondered about that too? i sometimes wonder if some bloggers really want all of the discussion to just stop. (i hope i remember it correctly that it was tj and jan!)
maybe we need a blog therapist??? someone to teach us (adults) how to respectfully blog!
Morning, ms. p!
I think people know how to blog respectfully.
I don’t think that’s the problem (or maybe only 1% of it).
They just don’t choose to blog respectfully.
For what reason(s), we don’t know. But at its most simple, either some people have an agenda about BNN or an agenda about Haleigh’s case/family or THEY personally need therapists.
(IMO)
I went over some of these comments early this morning and had to laugh - the name of Simon’s entry is “Drugs, Drugs, Drugs”.
Not accusing anyone here of being on drugs, but to look back in the light of day and read some of this stuff, I was wondering if I needed a special dictionary?
Anyway, it’s ridiculous that anyone would think that comments on a blog can affect a missing child case in any way. imo.
Good morning, protectkidz!
You said, “it’s ridiculous that anyone would think that comments on a blog can affect a missing child case in any way.”
I wouldn’t have believed it either if it wasn’t for what happened to the case with all the blog wars against R that Marie & Co waged (with or with approval from KP) along with bloggers from other sites and that caused really bad feelings among bloggers, some of whom inserted themselves in this case literally (physically and personally) and I think did some damage. Possibly diverting attention away from where it should be for a number of reasons (custody issues, who to blame for R’s disappearance as examples).
So I’m afraid that there is a chance that those kinds of things can happen again.
I’ve said before that I’m surprise M hasn’t been harmed by some crazy person or that R hasn’t - although it seems even more likely now (in part thanks - perhaps - to that ‘Jungle’ video).
No, me, I am basing it on his actions over the last year and his past record and history. This is not a mental disorder, it is a personality disorder…
The adult with antisocial personality disorder displays at least three of the following behaviors:
fails to conform to social norms, as indicated by frequently performing illegal acts, and pursuing illegal occupations
is deceitful and manipulative of others, often in order to obtain money, sex, or drugs
is impulsive, holding a succession of jobs or residences
is irritable or aggressive, engaging in physical fights
exhibits reckless disregard for the safety of self or others, misusing motor vehicles, or playing with fire
is consistently irresponsible, failing to find or sustain work or to pay bills and debts
demonstrates lack of remorse for the harm his or her behavior causes others
So far, anyway, I have not heard about any evidence or any statements by LE that R is directly responsible for what happened to Haleigh.
So right now I’m more interested in what kind of guy Tommy is. A simpleton? A sneak thief? A kidnapper or worse?
We don’t know much about Joe except his criminal record. Maybe that’s enough.
But these guys (one or both of them) may be directly responsible OR T knows who is. Maybe the pressure’s on T now but I don’t know why he’d confess. What kind of deal could LE offer to make him want to do that? IDK.
protectkidz @ 8:20am
Some mornings I read what happened here the night before and I want to post “Don’t Booze and Blog!” LOL!
That’s the only thing I can think of to explain it sometimes!
hi m2c:
yes, I can definitely see some crazy person going after Misty which WOULD affect the case, but I don’t think the internet stuff makes as big of an impact as say, the antics of those who walk right into Satsuma/Palatka and insinuate themselves.
LE won’t be swayed by internet comments and plus, they have way more info than we do. Most likely if they read, they are shaking their heads at the circus.
I will tell you what would be cool: if one of the people who know some of the secrets (the important secrets, not letters between grandmas re: vigils) were to pop onto one of the forums or blogs and start letting loose - now, that would be awesome!
I would bet that there are many, many secrets to be shared, but no one wants to share. Wonder why?
m2c: yes, it reminds me of that commercial: Merlot and email do not mix!
I want to know about Tommy, too. I want to know when he stole the stuff that he is now being charged with, and I want to know why Misty thought it was a big enough juicy tip to actually spill to LE during an interview on Jan. 20th.
Is Misty letting loose some of the secrets?
protectkidz: Unfortunately if anyone REALLY knew anything relevant and spilled it on a blog very few would believe him/her. So many have told so many, many lies. The only people who would believe it are people who are already in favor of that theory or against the particular person accused. What they should do is go to LE.
M has been trying to tell LE to look at T since the beginning. Maybe she does not know for sure, doesn’t have proof, or wants LE to find the proof so the downfall of her brother does not rest solely with her. IDK.
I expect she saw those stolen items when she was staying with Lindsey and T starting shortly after she returned from Tennessee and got the restraining order against T stopped. Or maybe she saw them around Christmas/New Years because she was there then, too (even tho I think she stayed several other places during that time as well)
protectkidz said,in February 1st, 2010 at 8:20 am
drugs, drugs, drugs! omw!!!
good point!
m2c: with every case that I have ever seen where one parent is under great suspicion, there is this kind of craziness. Never fails and the folks on forums and blogs fall for it every time, allowing themselves to become part of the drama. I did it myself for awhile until it dawned on me that it is the victim who is the most important - the parents/families can take care of themselves, they don’t need me.
Back to Haleigh: interesting to me that any movement on this case has included Misty’s family. Wasn’t sure at one time if it was just because these people are always getting in trouble, but now I am truly starting to wonder.
Has Tommy taken a polygraph re: Haleigh’s case?
I don’t remember hearing about T taking a LDT. Those were given in the very beginning and I don’t think he was a key person at that time.
But I may not be remembering correctly. It would be interesting to know if LE wants him to take one now! I bet they do!
hmmm,
- did the jungle video help ronald get solitary? (he or someone close to him wanted it that way? maybe, forced officials to keep him safe this way.)
- or was it intended to intimidate him as it looks? (he is hated by whoever did the video so just to scare him the way it appears. or a genuine warning to watch out.)
- or was it an excuse to put him in solitary to make him unhappy or isolate him? (more afraid or lonely, he may be more willing to negotiate?)
- anything else?
I didn’t see the jungle vid, so can comment on that but if I were LE, I would not want him around other prisoners for the sheer fact that he is high profile.
I don’t know how much he knows about the night Haleigh went missing, but his recent comments that he believes Misty knows more than she is telling (altho that did not stop him from getting into a car with her while she was conducting a drug deal…) makes me wonder why he would say that, if it is just gut instinct with him or if he has factual knowledge?
I think he knows something, but I can’t for the life of me figure out why he would not spill it. Maybe it IS just gut instinct on his part but Ron does not strike me as being a stupid person, so his affiliation with Misty has left me baffled. (well, not really baffled…)
I also have another question that I’ve wondered for a long time but have never found the answer:
does anyone know if Misty or Ron were drug tested at the time of Haleigh’s disappearance?
and here’s another question: with the Sunshine Law, why have the journalists involved in this story not requested and recieved any docs? In KC’s case, we knew so much more. Has the court sealed this?
*can’t
flgirl said,in February 1st, 2010 at 8:37 am
thank you for posting the definition so people (me incld) could understand the discussion better. ms.p.
everyone have a great day!
Hi, ms p! All viable motives! The only one I’d add to the list of possibilities is - just another vile expression of hatred from yet another sick-minded blogger (only this time in video form)
protectkidz: I can’t explain R’s behavior before or now! I can only think that - like most relationships- theirs is complicated. Obviously he was first attracted to her for the basest and most obvious reason (and most likely still is). And secondly, saying that she may know more is exactly what LE has been saying. Tough to blame him for that! lol!
Also, how often have we heard from friends and relatives and spouses and girl/boyfriends of the worst kind of criminals that they NEVER suspected the person was capable of doing that (whatever it was)? So if R has/had a difficult time believing that M hurt Haleigh it is not surprising to me. He may also understand her relationship to her brother or family better and realize it would be difficult for her to “give him up.” And if he does “know” something or thinks he does, he should tell LE. His days of trying to find out himself (if he ever was trying to do that) are over.
All I can say is that I hope LE is on the right track. IF anyone who is locked up now is responsible or knows who is then there’s a chance of finding out what happened to her.
But if anyone who is in jail now KNOWS that Haleigh is being held by someone, then she’s gone now. They’ll get rid of her and run.
So my hopes of her being alive are diminishing.
proteckidz:
I don’t believe anyone was drug tested at the time. M was underage anyway and would need parental consent. And there would have had to be probable cause of some kind to test R.
The Sunshine Law can be explained better by others but the best I can do is to say that it only applies to cases where charges have been brought, I believe.
However, IF a case has gone cold, then there is a provision to allow all LE’s files to be released and someone IS requesting that formally now. They submitted the request formally to PCSO some months ago and of course PCSO denied it. Then the person submitted it - as appropriate - to the next level - the State Attorney General. It was at this time that PCSO pulled it’s “Great Sting” operation. So I have to wonder if one of the reasons they did that was to “prove” that the case was on-going so they would not have to open their files. Not a nice thing to think but well…there it is. A possibility anyway.
oh sorry, back for one more question. several have mentioned ff1, could someone explain to me what that is?? is it something on the forum here or what holly’s is doing??? i did not see a link for it?
ms p - Please don’t be disingenuous. Please. I have always had a much higher regard for you than that. Check your PM please.
I still have no formed idea of what could have happened to Haleigh (although at this point I am leaning away from abduction) but I never ever got the idea that anyone harmed her purposefully.
protectkidz: A lot of people think the same - that it could have been an accident or if Haleigh saw someone in the MH who should not be there then maybe that person did it intentionally to keep R or LE from finding out they were there.
Ms.P, HollyG started a Forensic Forum, I’m a member. There’s lots of info related/unrelated to this case.
Hey cent, Ms P, & m2c
ms p, I will gladly email you about it. I have not posted a link, in respect for Simon & Jan. I just mention it and offer to email to anyone who is interested. I don’t think there are any rules about how many forums we can belong to. Email me HollysGmom@yahoo.com
Why is an inquiry about this being disingenuinous?
The only way we can overcome these 4 or 5, who have taken over this blog, is to completely ignore their posts. If we don’t repond to troublemakers at all, they will get tired and stop wasting their breath. If you remember, I had to do that before with one person who kept following me to deliberately pick fights. Remember when those people were coming on, being so rude and posting under our names to cause trouble. We all agreed to ignore them, completely. That is what we need to do now.
I really think Misty, Tommy, or Ronald is talking. We know Misty gave Tommy up for burglary, and that is awfully serious, in itself. Tommy has already given some information up in the past and, I think, he is a talker.
There are so many points that really stand out about this case, starting with the 9-1-1 call. The cover-up and the planning that was already going on that could be heard in the background. Ron hanging up twice with the 9-1-1 operator, shocked me. Who would do that? His statement, at that time, that he had more important people to talk to than some——that wasn’t coming, is alarming. Ron telling Misty what to say on the 9-1-1 tape and in those first interviews, is a puzzle. Misty has, obviously been covering up, since day one. Why? Is she scared, or guilty?
Last night, on the Levi Page Show, one of the guests wouldn’t give details, but she said the police had absolute proof that Haleigh was never put to bed. If that is so, what could the absolute proof be?
If GGSykes saw the kids eating out on the porch, around 7:00p.m. that night. How do we know that, after GGSykes left, the child ever got back inside? It was after dark. Jr. could have gone back in the house for something, and someone could have snatched Haleigh. Misty could have panicked after that. There are so many possibilities.
I have thought about what would be the absolute proof that Haleigh was never put to bed that night, and it had to be people coming forward to LE that they had seen her out that night. Or someone had been to the house, and she wasn’t in her bed.
I have wondered if Tommy, actually, went into the house that night, and noone was home? There may be several people seeing her out with Misty. I cannot think of any other reason LE would have absolute proof. Can any of you? If what this guest said is fact, it throws some new light on this case. LE said, all along, that they have proof, in the house, that Misty isn’t being truthful about that night.
Look at who we are dealing with. People who take drugs and/or sell drugs, and can’t seem to keep out of trouble with the law. Each of them very immature and not the sharpest tools in the shed. I really think that if any of them had any information at all, it would have been spilled by now. Does anyone think this group is clever enough to keep such a huge secret from the public, LE and the FBI? It has been nearly a year. I cant see any one of them being quiet about this for a whole year. If they are involved, perhaps we should rethink how intelligent they really are. I just wish having children were are regulated as adopting kids.
Hi Guy’s….and don’t run,I have gotten my head back on now,I know it’s a bit late but I am sorry I had any part whatsoever in that last night,a person just keep’s getting kicked and I agree with most of you and Jan,ignore it,So i will grin and bare it from now on,but I have a theory on my mind about Haleigh and I’ll brb with it!
This is pure cathyjo thought’s only,I am not accusing,not using fact’s…just a thought I had last night!!! And I think’s it’s worth a thought………..okay
The brother,Misty’s brother rather that was over that evening Haleigh went missing??
Ok we have all heard about I think hgb?The date rape drug,how far fetched would it be that her brother,Misty’s?? brother Slipped her some in a drink and came back later that night having planned it all along,and the reason i wonder is Misty alway’s seem’s to everyone she is lying at the point “After she woke up”
Seem’s someone had to do an awful lot of planning beforehand!! IMO
GHB
Gamma Hydroxybutyric Acid (GHB): There are three kinds of GHB abusers: those who take the drug to get high, those who use it in bodybuilding, and those who commit sexual assault after drugging their victims. GHB is also frequently used in combination with Ecstasy to counter over-stimulation. It is frequently taken with alcohol and is often found at bars, parties, nightclubs, raves and gyms.
Credit: Walz Tetrick Advertising GHB is often called the “date-rape” drug. Because of its effect on memory, GHB causes users to forget many details surrounding a sexual assault. GHB is quickly eliminated from a user’s system, and it is sometimes hard to confirm its presence during rape investigations.
Samantha Reid was just 15 years old when she went to the movies with some high school friends. GHB or GBL was slipped into her soft drink that night. She was taken to the hospital with no vital signs and died after 18 hours on life support. Two boys from her high school are now serving 5 1/2 to 15 years in prison for the manslaughter death of Samantha. For more information see: http://www.ghbkills.org.
HGm @ 1:15 - Because Ms P was on line when you announced it and responded about it and has your email addy. So I could not figure out a reason for her to seem not to know at this point.
bonanzajellybean: There are several people on another thread who are concerned in a similar way (I joined them).
If the jailbirds have not sung by now, will they? Maybe there is no song to sing? Yikes!
I agree m2,Misty is 18,looking at jail for life,and I think if she knew,She’d tell,that’s what throw’s me!!!!!!
I would?? Wouldn’t you?
CathyJo - I sure would think so!
Have to go make dinner. BBL!
She wouldn’t tell if….She had knowledge of who or wa involved in a cover-up of a murder. She would have no “incentive” to do so…it would only ADD to her time in jail, not deduct time.
That is IF she is involved or knows who was.
But she’s gonna be in jail till she’s an old woman,so I dunno Gmom……Imo…LoL
SO WHAT’S THE DIFFERENCE AND IF SHE TALKED SHE’D GET SOME KIND OF IMMUNITY…RIGHT??
gRRRR,i have got to stop LoLing,always forget the caps..sheeeeesh!
Give me your take on this one Holly’s!!
CathyJo63 said,in February 1st, 2010 at 5:41 pm Hi Guy’s….and don’t run,I have gotten my head back on now,I know it’s a bit late but I am sorry I had any part whatsoever in that last night,a person just keep’s getting kicked and I agree with most of you and Jan,ignore it,So i will grin and bare it from now on,but I have a theory on my mind about Haleigh and I’ll brb with it!
CathyJo63 said,in February 1st, 2010 at 5:52 pm This is pure cathyjo thought’s only,I am not accusing,not using fact’s…just a thought I had last night!!! And I think’s it’s worth a thought………..okay
The brother,Misty’s brother rather that was over that evening Haleigh went missing??
Ok we have all heard about I think hgb?The date rape drug,how far fetched would it be that her brother,Misty’s?? brother Slipped her some in a drink and came back later that night having planned it all along,and the reason i wonder is Misty alway’s seem’s to everyone she is lying at the point “After she woke up”
Seem’s someone had to do an awful lot of planning beforehand!! IMO
CathyJo63 said,in February 1st, 2010 at 5:54 pm GHB
Gamma Hydroxybutyric Acid (GHB): There are three kinds of GHB abusers: those who take the drug to get high, those who use it in bodybuilding, and those who commit sexual assault after drugging their victims. GHB is also frequently used in combination with Ecstasy to counter over-stimulation. It is frequently taken with alcohol and is often found at bars, parties, nightclubs, raves and gyms.
Credit: Walz Tetrick Advertising GHB is often called the “date-rape” drug. Because of its effect on memory, GHB causes users to forget many details surrounding a sexual assault. GHB is quickly eliminated from a user’s system, and it is sometimes hard to confirm its presence during rape investigations.
Samantha Reid was just 15 years old when she went to the movies with some high school friends. GHB or GBL was slipped into her soft drink that night. She was taken to the hospital with no vital signs and died after 18 hours on life support. Two boys from her high school are now serving 5 1/2 to 15 years in prison for the manslaughter death of Samantha. For more information see: http://www.ghbkills.org.
Karon Cox said,in February 1st, 2010 at 3:41 pm
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Karon, If Le has proof then why no arest? Proof of what? What am i missing here?TY
Karen Cox said @ 3:41
Last night, on the Levi Page Show, one of the guests wouldn’t give details, but she said the police had absolute proof that Haleigh was never put to bed. If that is so, what could the absolute proof be?
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Karen I questioned that too. 1st how would that caller know that info???? Has that info been released???
If the police new she hadn’t been in bed why would they use her bed sheets for the dogs to use to track her?????
Good question you have there!!
AnneInTn said,
in February 1st, 2010 at 7:28 pm
Karon Cox said,in February 1st, 2010 at 3:41 pm
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Karon, If Le has proof then why no arest?
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Another good question AnneInTn. If they have proof Haleigh wasn’t in bed why haven’t they arrested Misty for lying, obstruction of justice,
interfering with an investigation.
treece said,in February 1st, 2010 at 8:19 pm
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IMO I dont think Misty knows nothing or she would have already sang.LE knows what happened and this is why this case has drug out these 11 months. This case willl prob go cold cuz of LE. I pray it dont cuz i feel this baby is alive.I dont know what to think anymore. But i dont feel Ron or Misty is guilty if they are I will eat by words.I will keep saying they need to look in another direction, all this is my opinion only.
AnneInTn, I agree they should have been looking in every direction from day one. The only track they seem to look at is R & M and I don’t think they hurt Haleigh either.
The point in my post at 8:19 is IF they had that “proof” they would have arrested her. It is just a rumor that they have “proof”, just more BS.
ba cent and holly’s, thank you for the info!
CathyJoe63,glad to see you back,I was slightly concerned last night but I guess everyone has their moment.I had just recently posted I thought you were one of only a few that appear to have open minds.Are you set on any one opinion now, or are you still open to consider all theories that may be possible?Like I said glad to see you level headed again,because some previous theories you wrote could very well play into what happened.Think about it.
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