Tim Miller has been fighting tooth and nail to prevent the Caylee Anthony defense from obtaining any of Texas Equusearch’s records. That battle is still raging. It seems likely that nothing will be resolved anytime soon. I have my own theories about Jose Baez, Andrea (I have never lost a capital case) Lyons, and the rest of the defense dwarfs involved. I’d love to know how come we don’t hear any of the babbling from Lawrence Kobelinsky anymore. Of course it would be easy to tag Koby (Nancy Grace’s name for him) as just another ‘Hired Gun’.
Tim Miller is no newcomer to the world of the media. His intentions may well be upstanding, in fact to say anything detrimental about Tim Miller opens up a huge quagmire of trouble.
Within the press we have a private joke, if you are going to do (interview) Tim Miller, it is best to schedule it early in the morning.
Donna Brock most likely started off as just another keen volunteer for the organization. She viewed it as a way to ‘make a difference’. Hey, doesn’t everyone want to do that?
Donna Brock made it to be noticed by the upper levels of Tim Miller’s organization. She was selected as the Texas Equusearch tool to unravel the mystery of where Haleigh Cummings is.
Tim Miller has always said that his organization prides itself on being careful and vetting perspective volunteers. In fact it was this argument that was put up in the Caylee Anthony case when the defense tried to obtain personal data about the Texas Equusearch volunteers involved in the search for Caylee Anthony. For the record I have absolutely no respect for Jose Baez or his dwarfs and dwarffetes. Based on the Donna Brock arrest Tim Miller’s organization has now moved into a less stable area than they were in.
Rumors concerning Tim Miller have been swirling around for some considerable time. The Donna Brock involvement can do nothing but make people look closer at his organization.
I am certain that Tim Miller has nothing but the best of intentions. However, I would say that he is on some thin ice right now.
Donna Brock might not be the key to solving the Haleigh Cummings case, but she could certainly be the lady that brings more attention on Tim Miller than he could wish in his worst nightmare.
Simon Barrett
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Follow-up comment rss or Leave a TrackbackSimon, good update. I am committed to not blog negative comments through tomorrow. So I will just say one thing that TimM could do that would make me think better of him would be to say, “I’m sorry, I was wrong”, just once.
Simon and T.J., how pathetic you victimize a man that has made a difference, all on rumors. I do not know how you look in the mirror. What has been said behind the scenes, at least by T.J., has been revealed. Some of the reporters are not your friends T.J. When are you two going to get back to Haleigh?
During the Steph Watts Radio show, when it was brought up that Donna had illegally taped Tim Miller and Steph Watts, both showed a keen interest.. Of course there was a major cut off on conversation when a specific comment about Tim was made, Immediately Both Tim Miller and Steph Watts reacted with a Response.. That Donna Brock was a Pathological Liar, that no one could believe anything she said.. Yet, she was suppose to be great source of info as per Misty.. This entire thing has turned into its own little circus, and too many questions unanswered..
i don’t even know what to say, ty simon for the update.
Simon,
Thanks again for the update and for your courage in reporting.
I have long been concerned about Tim M.. I remember him on the NG show a number of months back trashing Leonard Padilla, and he was almost incoherent through his slurring. It was sad. The man is an admitted alcoholic and cocaine addict, and is drinking again (and possibly back on the illegal drugs), and I don’t understand why his “friends” don’t get him back into a rehab before he messes up really bad.
Re not releasing the id of the searchers…my thoughts on that are that any one who participates in a search that is part of a police investigation (as Caylee’s case was) should be willing and able to give evidence about their findings. If that’s not the case, then LE won’t be able to use these sorts of volunteer searchers anymore, as if they refuse to identify themselves and give evidence in a case, the prosecution could run into real problems with continuity of evidence issues and the like, and it could jeopardize prosecutions.
Again, thank you for your honesty and courage in reporting on all this.
The reason I don’t believe some of Tim’s tales is because if some of that were true, it should have been reported immediately, not wait until he was mad at Ron weeks later.
treece….ITA….perhaps after a stint in rehab, we will hear him say that.
treece…ITA with your second post too. I have found his tales to be absolutely outrageous. Very sad.
Thanks for the update Simon. Liberty why are you bashing TJ? Or Simon for that matter? Seems almost every article providing an update or some info for those of us that care brings out trolls.
Simon Barrett
I don’t know enough about why or why not Mr.Miller would chose not to disclose the records.I would hope that standard procedure be not until there ordered by a Judge no matter who the case is about. I wouldn’t want a company that just shares them with anyone upon request. Get a warrant and obtain them the legal way or don’t get them at all, end of debate. Line in the sand
I fail to draw a line in the sand regarding two people 17/29 having sex and a five year old going missing from her home. How do you pull a five year old into that picture? Actually please don’t that
I find you to be kind of on the weird side. JMHO
I disagree that Donna Brock imposed herself with good intentions. I think she’s done this for 15 minutes of fame,maybe a cash cow and to feed her own drug habit if true. Why would you take on Mothering a teenager with a drug problem and a missing stepchild when you’re taking drugs too? To make a drug connection? Then taping conversations with TM, MC and RC for profit! I realize TM’s organization is not perfect but none are. To try to blame TES for Donna and her problems is crazy. This is supposed to be a mature woman that seems to act like a teenager sowing their oats. Where is her family during all of this? In my opinion she’s a user, using RC,MC,TM and TES for her sick needs. I think she’s right where she needs to be IN JAIL. She hasn’t helped this case, she’s hindered it. Does she think she can make money on this child’s story? JMHO
Is it possible that Donna Brock was a plant to gather information? As in, undercover. A thought about Cummings, marriage to make Misty lose her guard. Possibly the buddy up with the drug deal was to give her a sense of security but in fact was to aid in the arrest. Nobody has crossed this bridge but thinking, this is a possibility. Cummings has something under his sleeve and I feel he has since the onset. I think he knows what happened and is trying to bring it to the forefront. Just my thinking but if if were me, I might do the same thing for a while. He has already said he would take out the person who did this to his child, told it to law enforcement as well so nothing is impossible here. On the other hand, he may be guilty as sin and none of this is possible but it is a thought. When a person is so grief stricken, their mind might wander off to ways to stick it to the guilty party but it takes a strong person to do this type thing. There are so many possibilities here that it blows the mind and I just wish that Haleighs whereabouts were known so the public as well as family could have some closure. This may drag out for years to come and this is a shame.
not on the subject on donna brock,but to me it seems ronald’s emotions on some of those tv shots of him when haleigh came up missing is alot similar to susan smiths,it all seems fake to me and in some of them he looks like he is fake crying no real tears JMO
treece said,in January 28th, 2010 at 9:01 pm The reason I don’t believe some of Tim’s tales is because if some of that were true, it should have been reported immediately, not wait until he was mad at Ron weeks later.
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I agree totally.
Thanks for the reporting on this angle. I too heard the comments on Steph Watt’s show and the immediate shut down of all further discussion regarding sex tapes that Donna Brock had that involved Tim Miller. It leaves one to wonder if they might exist. Who knows???
I think it might be helpful to families who need help in the future to talk directly to the Orange County Sheriff’s Office and Satsuma Law Enforcement to get their opinion prior to calling in Texas Equusearch. These agencies likely have the job of ‘cleaning up’ and dealing with the ‘fall-out’ after searches when things are not handled properly so it would be my opinion that checking first might save future grief for families and LE. I would have no idea of what either agency would say and I write this only as a suggestion.
I saw postings some weeks ago on sites that suggest there are quite a number of families that are very unhappy with things regarding Texas Equusearch and feel the promised help created more grief than help.
One post I read mentioned the Kesse family.
Whether such posts are true or not, I do not know but would encourage getting references prior to asking ANY search group to come in to help.
It is my personal belief that Haleigh is no longer living and Ron has everything to do with her death. I believe she was cremated in the Watts funeral home and someone in the Cummmings family has her ashes. Jamie Watts is the person who set up the donation fund for Ron. What more of a better way than to pay him for his deed than through that? He is responsible for the donations being dispursed to Ron-he could easily dip without being detected. The Watts funeral business has a crematory on site-they even do pets! They were investigated for dumping metal plates and bone fragments in water in Putnam Co. The plates and bone fragments came from persons they had cremated-all plates have a serial # and can be traced. Sadly, Putnam Co. never prosecuted the case. Jamie Watts was arrested again for illlegal dumping. There is currently a tax lien on the funeral home business. What better way to help your failing business out then by doing a favor for your friend and getting paid for it? There are documents to back up the issues with the funeral home/Jamie Watts I have stated. Do some digging-it is all there.
Re Donna Brock.
1. Why does she have a NC driver’s license, Georgia car registration & is supposedly living in Orlando? I find this highly suspicious.
I’ve looked her up on intelius…they have a few listings for 44 year olds with her name…the 1st, with addresses in LA & NJ, the 2nd with a Richlands NC address (sounds like her!), and also with addresses in VA & HI!?!?…the 3rd is a Donna M Brock (no age listed) with Orlando address…there is also a 43 year old Donna M Brock with GA addresses.
2. Does she have a legitimate job? Does anyone know anything about any work history?
3. What does her husband do, why hasn’t he bailed her out, where does he live, was he also hanging out with the group? Are we sure she has children?
I read elsewhere that her and her husband mortgaged a home that they had bought for $99k and owned outright, in June, for $144 000…do we know when she became involved in this case? Of course, the money could have been spent on something legitimate, but it does make me go hmmmm and wonder why she hasn’t been bailed out. I wish someone would interview her husband.
Why did Tim take her along when he took Ron & Misty away…I wonder if she has anything to tell about those days.
I am finding it very hard to believe that this 44 year old has no priors…given her recent arrest and behaviour on the highway.
flowerchild and I know the truth,
Is there a reason some of you can’t resist bashing Ron on every single thread? This thread is about TES & Donna Brock….couldn’t help yourselves?? Do you think we should be discussing Crystal’s drug use while pregnant on this thread too? I mean really, GMAB.
I’d be interested in your thoughts on the topic of this article, but would prefer to not have to read Ron bashing posts in between relevant ones.
I know the truth, sounds like you don’t know squat. If this happened you wouldn’t know about it. If I were you I might be concerned about getting sued for slander so you might want to be careful. These blogs are a permanent record and can be traced. Just for your information.
wondering….I missed the sex tape mention!!! Wow. I’m starting to wonder if Donna might try to give up info on Tim M in exchange for a deal/sentence reduction. Given his association with a drug dealer (Donna) and his prior cocaine abuse, I’m starting to wonder if he might have got himself back into the illegal stuff again. Given he’s an alcoholic and drinking again, he probably isn’t exercising great judgment. For his sake, and TES’s sake, I sure hope not. If he has, I hope his friends check him into rehab asap.
I have said it before and I will say it again. Tim Miller is an upstanding man. If something happened to one of my loved ones I would call him. If there is someone holding info to where or what happened to them and it was possible to get someone they could relate to that could bring them back home or for their respectful burial I would encourage it. I believe alot of us here would if in that position.
He is not responsible for Donna Brochs behavior. She is an adult. Tim only wanted to do anything he could possibly do to aide in finding this sweet little girl.
Tims past is just what it is” the past” I am sure he lives with his daughters tragedy everyday and for the closure he brings to these families is great. Granted it cannot take away their grief, just as sure it only reminds him of his, he continues on.
Tim Miller in no way can be compared or listed in the same category as Ron Cummings. The only thing these two have in common is they lost a child. Rons daughter could still return. It is not final yet. Tims is in Heaven and she has a dad she can be proud of for all he has done for other families. Tim has not had a repiticious life in drug dealing. I feel for Ron for the pain he must have over Haleigh. I feel that after Haleigh came up missing that his most important agenda would be to change his lifestyle for his son who was still there. Ron should of put all that energy into finding Haleigh. I am upset with Ron because he failed his son who has also suffered a great loss. This little boy needed him more than ever.
Its always funny that a person in severe trouble always seeks out GOD. If they get out it how quickly they forget, until they need him again. GOD will never leave you. He renders forgiveness, but know that he is a just God and you will receive the punishment you deserve.
I believe the records of the searchers should court ordered by a Judge. My fear is that fingers may start pointing at searchers for the crime at hand. What would this do to these organizations? Noone would want to be involved for the fear of being accussed.Noone wants their life turned upside down just because you chose to care.
Peoplefinders.com has her with an associated name of “Donna Press” (maiden name?) and it looks like her husband is 47 year old Bradley Brock. They have her in Richlands NC, VA, CA, AZ & HI. No GA address, but that’s apparently where her car was registered. It seems she’s lived in many different states.
Wow. Just searched her husband, and he has lived in even more states, and not the same ones as her!
Richlands, NC
Portsmouth, VA
San Diego, CA
Westerly, RI
Lodi, CA
Santee, CA
Groton, CT
Norwich, CT
Woodbridge, VA
Las Cruces, NM
WTH???
looking, I agree with you that Tim Miller has done some wonderful things. He has found many missing people both dead and alive that may not have been found with out him.
You are right he is not responsible for every thing Donna Brock has done. He can’t know what every single person associated with TES is capable of.
HOWEVER, can you also see that he has made some blunders of his own lately? That he has not acted professionally and has overstepped his bounds in Haleigh’s case? Can you not see that it is possible that maybe he does need some help with alcohol again? That it may be affecting his judgment? If you are his friend denial is not what he needs. JMO
I KNOW THE TRUTH said,in January 28th, 2010 at 10:21 pm
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Well seems you have alrady done all the digging. You have the floor here. We dont know you and you dont know use so prove what your saying. We will listen.LOL
Watts doesn’t have cremating facilities and the closet one to Satsuma is in Gainesville.
Vaquera, thank you for bringing some facts to this accusation.
me, her husband or ex husband is originally from New Mexico and he was in the Navy so that’s why they have lived in a lot of places.
Vaquera-you are wrong-
As Watts Funeral Home began to grow, Bill recognized the growing popularity of cremation. In 1988 the Watts Family installed the first crematory in Putnam County, having their own crematory allowed them to oversee the cremation process and maintain the promise that was made ” To care for your loved one as if they where a member of our own family.” With the large growth of cremation in the coming years Bill and Margaret install a second crematory in 1995. Also in 1996 Bill purchased a new piece of property north of Watts Funeral Home and installed a pet crematory call Cherished Pets By Watts. The pet crematory is located at a different location and currently performs over twelve hundred cremations a year. In 1999 Bill built a monument manufacturing plant located to the north of Watts Funeral Homes and began to manufacture monuments. The monument manufacturing plant employs 4 full times employees and installs over six hundred monuments annually.
http://www.wattsfuneralhomes.com/_mgxroot/page_10739.php
Great just what missing children and their families need. Someone to bash one of the leading organizations that looks for children. Most people don’t want to get involved in searching for the missing, they care sure but they don’t go and physically search. I am afraid people will choose not to search at all for fear of being accused of or linked to something illegal. I say people get off Tim Miller’s back, I bet many wouldn’t want their past put under the microscope! Donna Brock is an adult, she made her choice to deal drugs and it sure doesn’t sound like this is her first rodeo. I think instead of questioning Tim Miller maybe people should be questioning why this Donna Brock has inserted herself in the Caylee Anthony case, Somer Thompson’s case, and HaLeigh’s case?
Treece I do not know Tim on a personal level. I can see him as a human being who makes mistakes. If his alchohol is affecting his judgement as some say then yes he may need to get that under control( providing this info is fact ). In the Haleigh case I do not really see it as a blunder. I know without a doubt there is nothing I would not do to find info on my loved one if I had to risk doing it myself. If LE was aware and it is apparent that he was working with LE they also thought it was agood idea. I am in no way in denial. I try to put myself in that position.
To I know the truth. Did you take your theory to LE? I am sure with the past violations against this business they would probably look into your accusations. Nothing surprises me at all in this case anymore. There are so many circus acts going on with the HaLeigh case, why not toss another into the ring?
I have said it before, and others have said it too, the Florida Attorney General’s office needs to clean house in Putnam County.
I take it back I guess they do cremate. It didn’t show up in the list for crematoriums in Putnam County.
Still, Jamie Watts would not have done that for anybody. That would make him an accessory to murder. Did Misty carry her dead body on her back to the funeral home because no way Ron had time to do it after he left for work. He only collected 5000 for Ron to begin with.Ron was not holding truck raffles and selling tshirts/bracelets at the races and catfish festival and he wasn’t in a parade with purple donation jars going down the parade route collecting money.
looking for justice, I see what you are saying. I just know the few cases that I know about with TES in the past they were very professional and did not make their own side shows and certainly didn’t turn on the parents. But I respect your opinion and as I stated in my previous post he has done alot of good.
Tim needs help or at least a P.R person to stop him from making some of these off the wall angry statements and crazy interviews he has done. Bad judgement sending Donna in and I have to wonder since Tim Miller knew Misty had drug problems, did he also know that Donna Brock had such issues. Is that why he put Donna with Misty. After all a person on drugs is more likely to talk and it does seem to me that Tim Miller was really upset when Caylee was found where he had searched. I think he really wants to solve a high profile case- and he let that cloud his judgement. Along with whatever else is clouding his judgement. I lean toward believing Donna and Tim were close. He admits he gave her $3,000, that is what he admits, to hang with Misty and gleen info. I guess it could just be poor judgement but I tend to think Tim matched them for a reason and knew the deal.
http://www.dep.state.fl.us/secretary/news/2002/02_1212.htm
Thanks Treece it is always a pleasure to see you on here. I do pay attention to your post and I agree with you on alot of your opinions.
I like Tim Miller, and I hope he doesn’t get ruined by this case, like several other people have. He may not be perfect, but I believe he has a heart to help people find their loved ones. I believe I would have to be an alcoholic to be tied up in the front lines on these missing person cases. There will be many people needing help finding their loved ones, who won’t get the help they need, if Tim Miller goes down.
iowamom said,
in January 28th, 2010 at 11:10 pm
I have said it before, and others have said it too, the Florida Attorney General’s office needs to clean house in Putnam County.
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Amen to the cleaning house!!!!!!
treece said,in January 28th, 2010 at 11:21 pm iowamom said,
in January 28th, 2010 at 11:10 pm
I have said it before, and others have said it too, the Florida Attorney General’s office needs to clean house in Putnam County.
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Amen to the cleaning house!!!!!!
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I will 3rd this…
looking for justice, back at ya!!
Vaquera said,in January 28th, 2010 at 10:59 pm me, her husband or ex husband is originally from New Mexico and he was in the Navy so that’s why they have lived in a lot of places.
Thank you for that! I’m not from the USA, but I’ve been to HI and know there is army there so thought that was a possibility.
I just checked the onslow county records and it seems they mortgaged their home for $144k at the end of July.
Very Interesting Link.
http://www.dep.state.fl.us/secretary/news/2002/02_1212.htm
I KNOW THE TRUTH,
MAKES SENSE TO ME.MAYBE WATTS F.H. DID HAVE A HAND IN HALEIGH’S DISAPPEARANCE.
ALL I KNOW IS I 100% BELIEVE RON KNOWS MORE OR WAS INVOLVED,MAINLY BCUZ OF THE WAY HE’S DEFENDED X-WIFEY.I DON’T TRY N BASH RON BUT FROM DAY ONE I BLOGGED RON WAS A JUNKIE N SAID I SAW HIM NODDIN’ OFF DRUGS ON NATIONAL TV.EVERYONE JUMPED ON ME AND SAID IT WAS MY OPINION.WELL THE CATS OUTTA THE BAG,AND MISTYS LOYALTY WILL FADE ONCE A DEAL IS OFFERED 2 HER.AT THAT TIME YE BYE RON
I have got to ask this or this is more of a statement. No one ever talks about the other side of this faimly..I find this odd. JMO
I have a problem with publicity seekers using an organization to further their goals for their own agenda. I don’t think that COBRA, TES or TM is perfect but they have good intentions to find a missing child. Are we too quick to judge? Why was TES more or less blackballed in the Caylee Anthony case? Because of the grandparents???? YES! Now they’re in a mess with HaLeigh. Everyone who tries to help find out what happened to HaLeigh seems to be thrown under the BUS including TES. We need to quit pointing fingers at these people and concentrate on what has happened to these children and why is there is resistance from her community to help find her? They’ve used forums on the internet to sway people to their way of thinking. and it’s caused friction with posters. This is way beyond STUPID. Just find HaLeigh!!!!!!!!!!!
I don’t understand why everyone needs to know if Tim is an alcoholic. He just heads up searches, that’s it. I think Tim’s mistake was getting involved with some of the crazy characters in all these cases and going on talk shows that like all the gossip and circus behavior for ratings. However, I’ve ALWAYS thought that the whole area behind the Anthony home should have been searched before the first storm rolled in, but it wasn’t. I don’t buy all the excuses. As for Donna, well, she’s in jail but Tim’s not. Let him keep searching and work on any drinking he might do with the help of his friends and family.If he commits any crimes then he can go to jail with the rest of them.
Donna’s husband’s myspace
http://www.myspace.com/bradleyabrock
Interesting.
I won’t mention the child’s name as he’s only 16, but if you look at his myspace, it seems his parents were arguing around about Jan. 5th, and he sounds upset about his mom getting arrested. Poor kid. Misty is only about 1 year older than him…this has to be pretty awful and weird for him.
I have to agree with “wondering”, especially after hearing the Steph show the other night. I heard the same mention of a sex tape that wondering did. Sure was glossed over pretty quickly.
The private joke about talking to TM early in the morning seems not to be so private anymore. The man has a history and is not shy about sharing that history with anyone. Given the tragedy he has been through and the life he leads today, is it any wonder?
However, one has to ask, could all of the stories told about him and the goings on at TES truly be just “disgruntled past volunteers” or do they have some credibility to them? Me thinks that someone in the journalism business needs to have the cajones to find out and report on it.
Tim and TES have done a lot of good for a lot of families, I won’t deny that or take away any credit they deserve for that. However, he, Tim, hasn’t done it alone. He’s done it with the help of thousands of volunteers over the years that have also put their hearts and souls into searching for the lost and missing and very seldom do they get the credit they deserve. Maybe it’s time for Tim to take a step away, take some time to take care of himself for a while and let his people run the show. Lord knows, he’s got some great people. He also deserves, and needs, some time away, based on observations over the last several months.
Is he truly helping in some of these cases, or is he hurting the prosecution’s cases? Only time will tell, and many people may be in for a rude awakening.
Like “wondering” says, the best thing that any family or LE agency can do is ask for references for ANY organization that they plan on asking to help. Not just TES, but ANY organization should be checked out. OCSO or PCSO should be willing to give some sort of reference on TES. As should any other LE agency they’ve worked with.
God Bless Haleigh. It seems the focus has shifted from her to the circus around her. I hope she becomes the center of all of our attention again and comes home again soon.
Good article..
I am an ex TES Searcher. I’ve been on many searches.most of those searches Tim was on himself.we would stay in a town anywhere from 2-6 days.First let me say that Tim’s whole heart is into searching and helping the familes. So are MOST of the searchers who come to assit in searching.BUT.Yes, Tim does drink VERY heavly. And so do about half of the searchers who are with him. I’ve never seen him do any drugs.AT ALL.nor have I ever seen any of the searchers do any drugs.But’s I’ve seen them so drunk they can’t walk, and pass out.which is very sad. Like I said.Tim does this to help.he doesn’t do it for money..he does it because he cares. He has a huge heart and I’ve seen him cry many times when he has to leave a town without finding that loved one of a family. I do however feel that Tim could provide a much better service if he didn’t drink so much and allow his searchers to drink too. I understand that some people deal with pain and hurt in many diffferent ways. And Tim has plenty of that considering his Daughter was murdered and he has seen countless others dead. Hoping he can find some peace.
I have heard Donna has at least one minor child. For that reason, I am hopeful that those who are pointing to her address and details about her family will try to refrain from doing so for the well-being of her family.
I am sure any child/children of hers (minor or not) are likely devistated by her present situation and they should not have to pay the price by having people hunt them down, to include the media. Please join me in encouraging others to be mindful of what is posted regarding this woman’s family.
Annie:
The other side of the family has stayed so quiet.
Excellent post “searcher”, and I would have to agree with you. I’ve never personally witnessed any drug use, but have witnessed the alcohol use to a great extent.
And “wondering”, once again, I agree whole-heartedly. There have already been too many lives destroyed by this case, and Donna’s family is included in that. There is no reason at all for them to be dragged into this any more than they have been already. Leave them in peace to deal with this personal tragedy on their own. No more children should suffer any more than they have already. Lord knows, enough children have suffered incredibly over the last year in this case !!
God Bless you Haleigh Cummings !!
OMG - this is hilarious. (hi, romie!)
OK, no, it’s not because we ARE talking about a little girl who would be in the 1st grade this year had she not “gone missing.”
Thanks to all who have given Jacki Hollander and Cobra and Kim Picazio and Simon Barrett their 15 minutes of fame.
Thanks to those who are somehow managing to make KC ANTHONY look not guilty with this BULL$HIT.
Thanks to all who have made Teresa Squires Cummings Neves and Art Harris and T.J.Hart that much richer.
Shame on all involved in obfuscating the truth. You have wrecked so many lives, reputations, and FOR WHAT?
This is utterly disgusting.
Can you blame them? I would too, they seen how being in the media is so dangerous. Here we have people accusing a funeral home of being an excessory to murder of a child and an Agency being brought down on account of how he deals with his pain and greif. He has brought home hundreds of lost and murdered souls and does not desearve to brought down for personal reasons because there is a lych mob out here who really wants to hang the kidnapper of Halegih but has no one else to focus on. I’d keep quiet too.
wondering…the press reported her address at the time of her arrest back in October and again now….just like Misty’s address and everyone else’s got reported. It’s a shame she didn’t think about that before she started hanging out with a teenager and apparently selling drugs.
Hey Simon why no story on Cobra and how his trial went. Did he go to jail ? Is he in for long and fighting it? What’s up?
The Cobra update: http://www.bloggernews.net/123640
Crystalkdreams:
There is a story about Cobra, written January 25. Article # 123640 or use the search bar for Staubs.
The title of the article is Putnam County Trial for Bondsman/PI Cobra Staubs Moved to March.
The Sheffields were shrewd….with Misty’s last
drug encounter (her purse was robbed) while trying to purchase with her buddies, I think they just knew it was a matter of time when Misty and her chums would be brought down again. This time they nailed Ron along with the others…..bingo. Custody went to Crystal 1, 2, 3….not that Crystal has a spotless record, nor does anyone in her family come out squeeky clean. They all have records, but at this moment Crystal’s record is looking better than Ron’s.
IMO The Sheffields are a phoney as a $3 bill.
What was stopping them from kidnapping Haleigh and taking her to their out of state homes and sitting back and waiting for their opportunity to get Jr….legally? Just thinkin…
Crystalkdreams, Simon did report the news about Cobra. You will find the article in Januarys archives. He is not in jail. They continued his case until March.
Goodmorning m2c.
I like reading your blog, Simon - but I have to wonder why you feel the need to keep going on about Tim Miller?
I don’t think it is courageous of you at all, as another poster stated.
Simon - many people have faults. But not everyone has had their teenage daughter raped, murdered, with her body left to rot.
How would YOU cope, Simon?
Simon, anything about Tim Miller and the Haleigh case is last October. It is over. Donna Brock was not chosen by TES, she told Tim that she wanted to try to get Misty to talk and Tim said, “what the hell, go for it”.
I do not know him, I am not a member of TES, I have not ever searched in the field for a missing person but Tim has, over and over.
Everyone has faults, Simon. But not everyone would go out and search for the body of a missing loved one - as Tim has done literally hundreds of times.
I don’t need an apology from him, imo it is a nothing thing as DB is the criminal - not TM.
Good morning, looking for justice and Protectkidz and Christine! How are you all?
I’m trying to read back and catch up here!
Doing fine m2c. Hope all is well with you.
hi m2c and hope that my comments are not offensive.
Hi!
protectkidz: Oh, no. I haven’t found your comments offensive. In fact I tend to see people as “human” (not perfect) and as far as TM is concerned I think the anguish he still suffers and the good that he created out of that tragedy far outweighs anything else I’ve even heard about him.
And none of it should be allowed to tarnish TES - the organization. I think TM should be included in our prayers - more so than condemned for any real or possible flaws/bad judgments.
m2c: I totally agree.
I feel that TES is more than just Tim - although Tim created it and has poured his life into it, there are many people who also have done that and they have a very important common goal.
I know some would say that TM might well deserve anything he gets, but what he gets could very well impact victims and their families.
I think it would be smart to take a high road on the issue of Tim Miller - for the greater good.
me — I checked Donna Brocks Husbands Myspace, he does have a photo of he and Donna together on the website.. They actually do live in North Carolina.. Go figure, your right there are Donna Brocks listed about the same age all up the east coast.. doesn’t make any sense to me.. but of course I’m way out here looking into the circus..
I agree and as far as that despicable bozo trying to get info on the TES volunteers in Caylee’s case, I hope TES fights back hard just for the heck of it.
Bozo is just wasting MORE time and everyone knows what Bozo would do with the info - grill (torture) everyone publicly while he prays to the devil to find someone with a flaw in their life or a family member’s life and then he can haul them over the coals like he’s done with Kronk.
Also I’m sure in the Caylee search there was no time to “vet” or do background checks on everyone who showed up to search there.
And when Sarah Foxwell was missing, it did not involve TES but that local LE asked everyone in the community to search and thank God they did because she was found (although tragically not alive).
So if all volunteers should now have to be screened, vetted, and background checks done - we’ll certainly NEVER find more innocent victims in the future - whether TES is involved or not.
me said, Yes, the information regarding Donna’s address has been published and is on her booking record. However, let’s leave it at that and not post anything further that might be ‘dug up’ so that no other children are affected by this sad story. I heard Tim Miller speak about negative things regarding a daughter of Donna’s on the Steph Watt’s show and cound not think of ANY reason for doing so. It struck me as just being hurtful and a way to ‘get back’ at Donna. I would like to believe that we are all advocates for children, be they missing or not.
If Donna did not consider her family, that was her terrible mistake. We can do better than that and not do anything that causes them more grief.
protectkidz, you said,
1. in January 29th, 2010 at 7:59 am
“‘Donna Brock was not chosen by TES, she told Tim that she wanted to try to get Misty to talk and Tim said, ‘what the hell, go for it”.’”
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Exactly.
I detect some lack of honesty in Tim Miller……perhaps for good cause but lies never pay. I do beleive that it is possible that someone other than Casey killed Caylee and Roy the meter reader sets off bells in my head. The fact that Miller has been refusing to allow the defense to investigat his volunteers suggest something is not on the up and up. If Tim Miller payed and set up Donna to befriend Misty for evidence in the case of Haleigh then he could just as easily be involed in something with Roy the meter reader in the Caylee case………..his word has lost something.
@jodi I kow everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and I respect that, but seriously, I have to ask, are you joking about Casey Anthony not killing her daughter?
Oh, jodi! I gather you have not been reading about the Caylee case since the beginning? If you had, you would not be thinking what you are.
I won’t go into it all, but just ask yourself this: why would the head of a major search organization NOT want to find Caylee and let some unknown meter reader find her? It’s nonsense.
And I don’t know if TM “set up” DM to befriend Misty or if it was DM’s idea, but it was an effort to find out what happened to Haleigh.
Please read up on both cases before worrying about TM’s involvement in the actual crimes. That is so far out there, my friend. (meant with kindness)
DramaQueen, No-no-no-no-no-no. Wrong angle. Although it is theoretically POSSIBLE Casey is innocent, that’ll just confuse the issue. Would probably work either way.
alethea said,in January 29th, 2010 at 10:16 am DramaQueen, No-no-no-no-no-no. Wrong angle. Although it is theoretically POSSIBLE Casey is innocent, that’ll just confuse the issue. Would probably work either way.
I’m sure SOME here would just LOVE to divert the discussion to that mare’s nest.
I meant the angle I am thinking of would work whether Casey was guilty or innocent.
no, no, no - Jodi, you think that Tim Miller is fighting this issue because he thinks that someone other than Casey could have killed Caylee?
Ugh.
The reason that Tim Miller is fighting this is because NO ONE WILL WANT TO VOLUNTEER IF THEY FEEL THAT THEIR LIVES WILL BE TORN APART AND THEY MAY END UP HAVING TO TESTIFY IN A COURT OF LAW!
The area where Caylee was found was underwater when TES was there in November. It’s documented. Even a TES volunteer who was interviewed by media just HOURS after Caylee was found stated that they were not able to go in as far as where her body was found because it was UNDERWATER.
Nothing fishy about TES fighting this. Just trying to protect their volunteers, and trying to make sure that Baez does not negatively affect future searches.
Forcing volunteers to testify shows just how low Bozo really is. He is just using them as a distraction. How low can you get to target public servants. Well, we already know Bozo is debased.
Interesting what Bozo said at the hearing last time. “We find ourselves in a muck of justice.”
That’s one thing he got right. But it’s a MUCK of his own making and he’s rolling in it like an ecstatic pig, making a name for himself (and money, too, I’m sure).
I am sure that Casey’s defense team would love to cast reasonable doubt by raising questions about the searches. But in all reasonableness, wouldn’t one think that an organization would be able to give law enforcement a list of all the names and addresses of the people that are involved in a particular search on a particular day? Was this provided? And wouldn’t it be the job of the defense to ask that this information be handed over to them so they can go around and talk to people and see what they can dig up?
Maybe I’m missing something here, but it seems to me that any adult involved in a search for a missing child would understand that there was a possibility they might be the one that would find the child, and therefore there was a chance they would be called into court as a witness to what they saw and the circumstances under which they saw it.
Is TM being accused by anyone of obstruction?
Other than that, is there some other kind of pressure being applied to make him release (or not release) even more details than he would reasonably (as I described above), be expected to give?
It looks to me like there might be at least two different things going on here. I certainly hope that all this doesn’t result in (perhaps two) killers getting off scott free.
JUST MY OPINION.
alethea:
Yes, I suppose LE or the prosecution could ask for a list of names of volunteer searchers but they have not. It is irrelevant. None of them found her.
And IF the prosecution had such a list maybe the duhfense could ask for it but the prosecution does not. Because it is irrelevant.
And, yes. If one of those searchers had found Caylee’s remains then I’m sure they would have expected to talk with LE about having found them. But none of them did. It is irrelevant.
The pressure being applied to TES by the DUH-fense is yet another delay, distraction, attempt to confuse and plant doubt in the minds of future jurors. It is another act in the circus. It is disgusting.
I have to agree with protectkidz, m2c and althea on Jodis post.
You know I was just sitting here this morning thinking about Rons vigilante behavior from behind bars. He feels it would be justifiable homicide or even he may get the DP. My guess is that it would be the DP. He has stated nation wide he will murder who is ever involved in Haleighs disappearance. I am afraid this now would be considered Pre- meditated 1st degree murder if Ron would somehow get the chance to carry out his threats.
I remember Somer Thompsons father, Shaniya Davis’s father. Shaniyas father knows who murdered his precious baby girl. Neither have came close to acting like Ron and saying the things that come out of his mouth. Ron needs to look at these fathers Mark Klaas, Tim Miller, Mr. Davis, Mr. Thompson, Mr. Lunsford and most of all Mr. John Walsh. All of these fathers felt enormous grief and all seek the greatest punishment the law will allow for the ones who committed these horrible crimes against their beloved and tore their lives apart. He perhaps should reach out to these MEN for some sound advice.
I am hoping and praying that news will come soon on Haleighs whereabouts. I am going to pray for all of these lost souls. They need prayer. Pray that they are filled with conviction and the only way to find peace is to set the truth free.WHERE IS HALEIGH!!!
Thank you m2c heart
I thought that Tim Miller made a HUGE mistake when he partnered up to try to infiltrate Misty’s world. This has been proven to be true in spades. I try not to judge ANY of the parents of missing and murdered children who advocate for victims too harshly. I feel that tragedy chose them for this work, not the other way around. I think though, that this proves that they should let the law do the investigating and let the volunteers do the searching. The backlash of this mistake will no doubt bring loads of problems for Equusearch and Haleigh is still nowhere to be found.
looking for justice @ 11:14 am.
I agree. To put the best light on it I have to think Ron’s threats are based in his (mis) perception of manlihood. Too many Steven Seagal movies and not enough Tom Hanks (as an example).
He does not know how to be a “real” man like those you mentioned.
At almost the worst, and I hope it’s not true, but I hope he is not one who perceives kindness or compassion as a weakness. In situations such as this it takes true strength. (IMO)
Oh, I should have added “self-control” and “restraint” to the list with kindness and compassion (above)
M2c you are correct about Ron.
Have you heard if Baez got a continuance for the Feb 1st hearing on presenting evidence that there maybe another person they can point the finger at that may have killed Caylee Marie and dismiss the dp or does the Feb 1st date hearing still stand? I truely believe in my heart she is the guilty party and should be brought to justice.
Karon Cox said,in January 29th, 2010 at 3:06 am Annie:
The other side of the family has stayed so quiet
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I agree Karen. So whats up with that?
AnneinTn:
They said at one point that LE told them to stay quiet and stay back out of the way, or that is what I read. I don’t think I could have stayed quiet, however, if my little girl was missing. Could you?
Karon, I think I would do exactly as they asked.
Karon Cox said,in January 29th, 2010 at 11:47 am AnneinTn:
They said at one point that LE told them to stay quiet and stay back out of the way, or that is what I read. I don’t think I could have stayed quiet, however, if my little girl was missing. Could you?
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Hell NO i could not at all.
Looking for Justice:
I am with you on your comment. Add Ron’s poor mother to the prayer list. I saw an interview of her leaving the jail, yesterday. She has had so much grief and loss and, now, she has lost Jr. and Ron is going to prison. I wonder, sometimes, if the poor woman will make it?
Blogging does not equal being in the press. I sincerely do not understand why you say “we” when referring to the press. Am I missing something, here?
I thought BNN was suppose to be about editorial pieces and such, but this blog entry reads like tabloid crap. You omit that Tim and TES washed their hands of Donna MONTHS before her arrest, and as well, you laced up the blog entry by calling it a Haleigh Cummings update. There is not one update on Haleigh, here. On top of that, you try to loop the Anthony case and Tim’s placement in it without getting to a point. The mentioning of of the Anthony case in regards of Tim seems to be nothing more than tabloid filler, on this blog entry.
TES is an open book and has always been an open book. They have to be because they are a non-profit charity. People can look into it as much as they want and they will find a group of caring people that have worked hard to bring people home to their families. Tim is not perfect, he readily admits his flaws. He is no angel and he is no saint, he has demons that most of us hope that we never have to battle, but he has put forth a true effort to do some good in this life by helping others. Is he untouchable? no, but attacking him in the name of “journalism” based upon gossip and rumors is not how you go about putting the man under the light of scrutiny.
I challenge you to step away from the computer and put your foot to the ground and truly search for people, to forgo resorting to tabloid “journalism”. As well, I have to ask: when are you going to hold Cobra’s feet to the fire? You have allowed that man to sit on your show and change his story so many times that it is ridiculous. You have allowed him to beg for money, but never held him to a standard of accountability. You have so much stuff on that man from personal interaction, but yet it is Tim Miller that you sensationally go after, based on rumors and gossip. Ever heard of “yellow journalism”?
My reply will probably get attacked by some of your supporters, but I have to point out that my reply does not come from a place of disrespect. By far it comes from a place where I did have a base respect for some of the stuff you have put out there, but this blog entry is starting to wipe even that away.
”I remember Somer Thompsons father, Shaniya Davis’s father. Shaniyas father knows who murdered his precious baby girl. Neither have came close to acting like Ron and saying the things that come out of his mouth. Ron needs to look at these fathers Mark Klaas, Tim Miller, Mr. Davis, Mr. Thompson, Mr. Lunsford and most of all Mr. John Walsh. All of these fathers felt enormous grief and all seek the greatest punishment the law will allow for the ones who committed these horrible crimes against their beloved and tore their lives apart.”
I completely agree with you!
However, we are talking about a man without education, without a consistent means of living, without the basic concepts of real parenting - comeon he relys on Mom - T. Nevis to do the real work, this is beyond his ability to be ‘civil’. His first reponse is ”kill the guy!”. While one that I would have myself, I have self restraint.
Ron acts with his gut not his head!
Why would Ron want the newspaper unless he wants to check on whether the others have talked. I f he wants to read he could have books brought in. I wonder if he can even have news papers? jmo
Also people have told me that drug sellers place ads in the paper that are code, like for sale one unused pack of diapers size 2. I have seen odd ads and wondered what was up and told its code so is shoes hanging from electic wires. jmo
Crayfish - I think much of what you wrote can be said of many a blog/blogger with more than one grain of truth.
Tobias, most prisoners want the news paper, I imagine you would too. He has a mom and he has a lawyer believe me he knows whether anyone has talked long before it hits the newspaper. He also said there are no books available. I also think he wishes someone would talk or bring his daughter home. It is amazing to me that wanting to read the paper is twisted to be a negative against Ron. 95% of the world reads the newspaper but Ron must be up to no good.
Crayfish: bravo!
Simon - please consider that getting the keyword “haleigh cummings” out there to Google, and then having your blog come up under Google News, while actually blogging about another subject - the “taking down of Tim Miller”, is considered a low blow in the journalism world. Please be better than this.
Re: Ron and his jailhouse statement. Let’s go back a year and remember the enormous amount of sympathy he garnished with his grief, his statements that he would hunt down the person who took Haleigh.
I think he is trying to re-channel those sentiments, re-direct the sentiments so many are feeling today.
If he were allowed news papers I am sure Teresa or family would get those to him. He is saying this to show how miserable he is and all the other things like the lights being on and how small the room is blah blah. Some will have sympathy for him I am sure and that is the aim…….moo
My words for Ron are IF YOU CANT DO THE TIME DONT DO THE CRIME……MOO
crayfish, I respect your opinion and I too agree TES has done a lot of good. But I have to comment on your defense that TES is an open book and a non profit assoc. That is true and all non profits have to be accountable. But TES is non profit for “search”. The donations are for searching and the expenses that entails. IT IS not a non profit private investigating team. I also leave room for human error and think Tim could have just made a mistake and used bad judgment just like we all do from time to time.
My problem with it is he won’t admit he made a bad call or mistake and continues to dig himself deeper by lashing out at others to justify his on behavior.
I wonder if Ron knows that his words are working against him. He basically plead guilty by saying to the reporter, “I’m going to prison” All of this can and will be used against him at trial. I wonder if, like Casey, they will release his jail house video visits with his mother and those of the others. Ron is out of control and I think maybe they are close to solving Haleighs disappearance. They may need him locked up to protect the innocent and the guilty. I once thought Ron was all talk, I now believe that he is a timebomb waiting to explode. God only knows what he is capable of.
Hello Tobias, I hope all is well with you. I sent up a prayer for you. You are right on your above post@12:32pm.
Ya know when I get to thinking about this case, YES I want justice to be served to whom ever took Haleigh and I have my opinions on that. Then sometime I could not give a hill of beans about these players in this case. I Just want Haleigh brought home. Guess I am thinking out loud here. I feel LE knows where she is so whats their hold-up? JMO
Volunteer organizations do need to cautious about who they deal with. Bad publicity can totally discredit them. I was suprised when Brock was busted along with the person she was helping to investigate.
That newspaper request really got me upset. Ron spent the whole interview making idle threats against the one responsible for Haleighs abduction as though he has given up hope that she is alive. Instead of asking the public tocontinue searching for his child, he asked the reporter to send him a newspaper subscription. Even the reporter was speechless. Ron needs to start behaving like a parent whos lost a child and stop acting like a little kid whos bike was stolen from him. He’s not painting a very good picture of himself. Don’t get me wrong, I have never lost a child, so I don’t know how I would behave, but I promise you , I would use every opportunity in front of the camera to remind the public to keep searching and praying.
Looking for justice, Thank you. Just thawing out from working outside its 3 below here and I had to work 5 hours outside in it. Wished the economy would improve so I can go back to a regular inside job. Well at least I still have a job , some arent as lucky I guess.
Do you think we will hear interviews from any of the others soon? I wonder if it will be like Rons? Sommehow I cant see Misty asking for reading material, maybe Cosmo LOL moo
Tobias, I am glad your back. I hope today is better for you than yesterday. I thought about you alot lastnight, and though I don’t know you personally, I said a prayer for you. I hope your feeling better.
Tobias, that is too cold to be outside, bless your heart. Glad you are in now. I too hope the economy changes soon for many.
Anne, I think we are all impatient with this case and want Haleigh found. Coming up on the one year mark has all of us up tight.
methinks I could not agree more with your post. It was very well stated. I could not have said it better myself.
Sara Jane -in parent I pray for those grandmothers everyday. They have my deepest sympathy. Unfortunately it is going to get worse before it gets better for them.I am praying they will put their best foot forward and make amends with Crystal. This is a time when they need to come and stand strong together until Haleigh is found. It would be great for the children. You have to find forgiveness before healing can begin.
I’d really like to know if Ron got his newspaper.
Methinks, Its like everything one day at a time one foot in front of the other. You go on for the ones you love. That is why I do not understand Ron at all, with this new arrest his actions has caused the ones who love him added distress. And to me it gives us an idea of his character and it isnt good. His disreguard for others feelings esspecially Juniors needs. moo
treece said,in January 29th, 2010 at 1:09 pm Anne, I think we are all impatient with this case and want Haleigh found. Coming up on the one year mark has all of us up tight.
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Yes i agree and i do think your right.
Looking for justice said,You have to find forgiveness before healing can begin.
WHAT A POWERFUL STATEMENT!!!! That is so true with us all but sometimes very difficult to do. I agree with you & hope they will all work on forgiving each other while focusing on the best for the kids.
Looking for justice, thank you. I wonder where Rons attorney is, I hope he’s giving Ron advice about speaking to the media. He needs to keep quiet and keep a low profile. His attorney must be livid about this interview. How can he expect his attorney to defend him when he says these crazy things like this?
Could this be why Crystal has the group that was talked about in her last interview involved. The victims of crime group out of Jackson. Hope they can help this family mend fences.moo
methinks, I bet you are right his attorney is livid. I also imagine that is the last “exclusive” interview that reporter will get. lol
The last I heard Rons lawyer was not returning calls. Has he quit or is there news that he is still representing Ron? Remember the lawyer is probono so he could duck out on him with no problems. moo
Yes Tobias, hope they can. It will definitely be for Jr’s best interest to keep his grandma’s involved, especially since he has been with them the majority of his life.
Jan….Are we allowed to bring a post from someone else to this thread? TY.
I sure hope that Crystal has Jr seeing a child psycologist to help him deal with all the confusion he must be feeling. Children are like sponges when it comes to the emotions of adults. They suck it in because they don’t understand whats going on around them. I pray that noone told him about his dad being arrested. I hope they monitor his time in front of the tv, and I hope they are careful what they say in front of him. He is so vulnerable right now, and I imagine he has a hard time sleeping. Poor little guy, I wish I could hold him in my arms and hug him and sing to him and calm his little mind down so he can be happy and feel safe.
Well folks I must go for now. It is getting close to school pickup. I hope to catch up with all of you later.
I agree treece, Jr needs all of his family now, especially his grandmas. They have been with him most of his life and to exclude them can only create fear for him. He may think his grandmas were taken too. Gosh Thats sad. It makes me angry to think that Ron went on tv and didn’t seem to care that his children may be watching….What a big baby! a big selfish baby!
I may be wrong but for some reason Ron is in the Putnam county jail now. Why?
I saw he was in the putnam jail inmate population at Jan. 29. why was he moved?
Ron and Ggma Sykes had Jr going to counseling every week to deal with missing Haleigh. I am sure he has gotten attached to that counselor. I hope he can keep going to the same one. Something needs to stay consistent for him.
Levi will have a show tonite to my understanding.
Just saw he was transfered from the Flagler site. Are they questioning him or is it so he can be moe carefully watched? Why the move?moo
Treece, How do you know he was seeing a councelor I must have missed that article where is it? jmo
Does anyone know if Junior really is in counciling?
Karon @ 11:47
I probably could… if LE had informed me of the inside angle and I felt/knew they were right on the money!!
Why did they move Ron to putnam county jail?
tobias said,in January 29th, 2010 at 2:17 pm Does anyone know if Junior really is in counciling?
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To my understanding Yes He was but i dont have a link for it.Glad your back..missed you yesterday.
tobias, sorry been off, in the middle of cooking for 3 hungry guys. I think it was Ggm Sykes that I heard say it but I am not sure. Maybe someone else can answer for us. If not I will try to find it later and get back with you.
Yes, I am anxious to hear why they moved Ron, too.
tobias, TJ Hart just put something up about it.
Anyone have any thoughts on how Ron could have an alibi, pass a polygraph and pass LE interviews, and STILL be somehow guilty of the crime? Anyone have any thoughts on how Misty could have NO alibi, FLUNK a polygraph and FLUNK LE interviews, and STILL somehow be only a “witness” or “covering” for Ron? I dont understand some of the comments made to this effect.
bonanza, I agree with you that it is confusing. I don’t think Ron is guilty either. I do agree it is possible that Misty is guilty of something but we don’t know. She could be guilty or she could have told all she knows and really have been asleep. I pray in time the entire truth comes out and ALL guilty parties are held responsible.
I dont think Ron is guilty either but its possible that Misty knows something and idk what is is. I feel someone just might be threating her to keep her mouth shut.JMO
Bonanzajellybean, There is a reason polygraphs are not admissible in court. It might have something to do with the idea that (it is reported) a guilty person with no conscience can pass one, and even a guilty person with a conscience can pass one; especially if the interrogator hasn’t figured out the right questions to ask them. Then there is the issue of drug use. Also an innocent person can flunk one, due to psychological issues. This is just what I’ve heard. I’m certainly no expert.
AnneInTn said,
in January 29th, 2010 at 3:28 pm
I dont think Ron is guilty either but its possible that Misty knows something and idk what is is. I feel someone just might be threating her to keep her mouth shut.JMO
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That’s a big possibility!!!!!
alethea said,in January 29th, 2010 at 3:38 pm
—–Why give a poly if it cant be used in court? I am just trying to learn something here.Thanks.
AnneInTn said,in January 29th, 2010 at 3:55 pm alethea said,in January 29th, 2010 at 3:38 pm
—–Why give a poly if it cant be used in court? I am just trying to learn something here.Thanks.
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I think it’s because, in properly trained hands, it can be a very valuable investigative tool and lead the investigators in the direction of the right questions, the ones they need to ask. It can also point away from the innocent very early on and prevent wasting valuable time, etc. That’s my understanding of it.
Folks, I’m going to have to go now. Bye.
alethea said,in January 29th, 2010 at 4:08 pm Folks, I’m going to have to go now. Bye.
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Bye 4 now. Have a great afternoon.
Treece
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AnneinTn
Have you two kinda like assumed the identities and viewpoints of
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You’re hinking me out bad.
Riddle me this -
Why would Teresa spend so much time, effort, and energy protecting Misty all these months? That doesn’t even make sense!
Tobias - have no idea who you are, but I’m glad we’re tending to agree with each other these days.
Lflorida, no I am not the same person as AnneInTn but I like her thinking on a number of things. I’m not sure what you are asking?
None of us know but I would think Teresa defended Misty all these months because she believed her. I think just in the past month or so she has started to question that.
I am just guessing that because if I were her if I was defending her it would have been because I believed her. I don’t think Teresa has anything to hide or pretend about. Do you?
Actually when I look back at our post I think AnneInTn is a much nicer person then I am. I think she tries real hard to be kind and keep the peace here.
LFlorida said,in January 29th, 2010 at 7:26 pm
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What are you saying here LForida?? Can u explain please? TY
treece said,in January 29th, 2010 at 8:21 pm Actually when I look back at our post I think AnneInTn is a much nicer person then I am. I think she tries real hard to be kind and keep the peace here
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Thanks treece and Yes I do like peace. We all are stressed over Haleigh not being home yet. this is a very hard case to follow and I pray its my last. But I will keep praying for ALL out kids as i know lots of peeps will also.
this donna brock looks a tad manish to me..
perhaps she was more interested in misty’s nubileness than seeking the truth. jus sayin
OJ….LOL…Looks like DB was very interested in hubby sex ….have you seen the little video of her head on another body doing a strip tease for him and then they turn off the lights. LOMAO!!! It is hysterical!!! A red teddy on a much younger body but that big ol head….BB has this look of Duh? what? LOL!!!
Sorry, had to share….
ANyway, I think that LFlorida was askinf if Treece= TN and Ann= Annette . lol….sort of funny since Treese does feel somewhat protective over TN & Ron by association and Ann is somewhat softer, gentler, like a grandma might be. Interesting theory….but no….
LFlorida your post at 7:26 pm = “Flamer!”
That’s what people do who refuse to allow others to have a different opinion and who cannot debate the issues in a civil manner but instead have to personally attack and disparage those who disagree with them.
As often as Tobias and I have disagreed about things it has never once occurred to me to accuse her of being MG, or CS or J(Marty)S or anyone else who might want to do Ron harm.
Anyone who takes that road is either incapable of civil discussion and/or of a cruel and mean nature and definitely qualifies for the “flamer” definition. That post does not reflect well on your or your opinions at all.
Hollys Gmom said,
in January 30th, 2010 at 2:23 am
ANyway, I think that LFlorida was askinf if Treece= TN and Ann= Annette . lol….sort of funny since Treese does feel somewhat protective over TN & Ron by association and Ann is somewhat softer, gentler, like a grandma might be. Interesting theory….but no….
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HollysGmom, I didn’t catch that. That post was kinda rude & kinda funny all at the same time. But what would be sad would be if it were true & those 2 grandmas had heard and seen a lot of the crap that has been posted here. But you are right, I am protective and AnneInTn does seem to have the kindness of a gentle grandma.
m2c, thanks girlfriend, don’t let it bother you. It isn’t worth stealing our peace or joy.
Laugh it off and move on. Some people post for the “shock and awe” of it all. I’m not shocked or awed and I’ve been called worse. lol
treece said,in January 30th, 2010 at 9:43 am
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LOL Yes treece …this is to funny..just call me granny now.
It’s okay, Treece. I would have said the same thing no matter who was so maligned.
But you’re right. I shouldn’t pay any attention to that kind of thing.
OJs glove,
I hope your comment on DB looks was meant to be humorous. As a gay woman, I hate stereotypes.
AnneInTn, you said,
LOL Yes treece …this is to funny..just call me granny now.
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OK I will call you Granny Annie and you can call me Mother Teresa. LOL
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First, of all the man is Retired Navy, so many of the locations you mention may well be Navel Stations.. Not Uncommon.. He orignally came from NM, which is not far from Las Cruces, in fact.. Las Cruces has NMSU, he may well have attended there. Also, outside of Las Cruces is White Sands Missile Range An Army Post, which has Navel Personnel stationed within, they refer to that as the “Desert Ship”. I do think that this issue over Donna, does not involve her husband, and it is unfair for us to bring him into it. He cannot be held responsible for her behavior. She apparently made her own decisions.
I would hate to think, that if my ex husband pulled stupid stunts that he ended up in jail.. that people would look at me to try to find fault.
Does anyone know if Donna Brock searched for Caylee Anthony? Thank you.
judithan 1/29/09 sounds like u know donna personally, as well as ido. thanks, i could not have discribed her better my self.
Why in the hell would ANYONE want / try to take down a man or organization that has found countless missing people? Leave TM and TES alone. God help you if your child ever goes missing and there is no one there to help. Get a FU*&^&*&ING CLUE!!! I have battle scars from all the searches I have done with TES and I don’t care how outrageous a method might be, if there is 1% chance of finding a missing person, I will take it. I guarantee you the people who work consistently with TES are WAY above worrying what might be brought on their shoulders by news media, bloggers, jerks with nothing but time on their hands. Had Donna Brock been successful in bringing Misty down, Tim would have been a hero. But since she turned into psycho woman, you want to crucify TM and TES. Try going to http://www.texasequusearch.org and look at the good this man has done. You can also see the private hell is he going through right now. And you want to bring him down?
Donna is one of the good guys. Her whole life she has only had 2 speeding tickets. That’s it. She was sincerely trying to help find Haleigh and made some of the stupidest mistakes ever made.
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