I was somewhat surprised to see Donna Brock caught up in last weeks sweep of the folks involved in the Haleigh Cummings case. Donna Brock for those of you not familiar with the name was the ‘hired gun’ financed by Tim Miller of Texas Equusearch to befriend Misty Croslin and get the real story.
Why Tim Miller would do such a thing is way beyond me. I had thought that his group was involved more in search and recovery than ‘investigation’. But investigate they did. Donna Brock became Misty Croslin’s well heeled new best friend. I do not have copies of the receipts, but it has been said that Tim Miller paid Donna Brock $3,000 for this adventure to Orlando.
There is much that we do not know about the relationship between Donna Brock and Misty Cummings, but, some facts can be uncovered. The Tim Miller all expenses paid vacation happened in early October 2009. There are rumors, and indeed a couple of news hounds have talked about it, there were some illegal recordings made between the two.
One source tells me that he has heard snippets, but they were no more than two women chatting. There was nothing to suggest that Misty was handing over the crown jewels.
Donna Brock was a huge media target for a couple of weeks after her adventure with Misty Croslin. What only recently became public was that late in October 2009 she received her ‘walking papers’ from Texas Equusearch’. The letter is well crafted, it does not state her position with TES, we are left to guess if she was a volunteer or on the payroll.
TES sent the letter distancing themselves from Donna Brock quickly after her arrest. The interesting part is the date, October 30.
Could it be pure chance that Donna Brock was at the funeral for Somer Thompson on October 27? There is an interesting picture that has surfaced.
I do like to zoom in.
My sources tell me that this grand gesture is aimed at Tim Miller, I do not know if that is true. Off Air people tend to say a great deal about Tim Miller, none of which are flattering, On Air, they tend to soften their approach. Miller has a formidable ‘war chest’ plus a huge following, to strike against him would take a great deal of guts.
I wonder if Donna Brock has the guts?
No-one has any doubts that taking Ronald Cummings, Misty Croslin, Tommy Croslin, Hope Sykes, and Donna Brock to jail is not primarily involved with the search for Haleigh Cummings. The drugs are an aside. But what a wonderful way to apply some pressure.
The big question is who will crack first!
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Follow-up comment rss or Leave a TrackbackIf it was indeed aimed at Tim it seems there are more TES members flipping him off.
ZOOOOOWIE… DiZammmm
Are they wearing equasearch shirts ? they disgust me
Okay…. why was the termination letter CC’d to PCSD?
Who is Donna Miller?
What is funny is “sources” and reporters going on the radio admitting to listening to illegal tapes. That is a FELONY. Yes, even listening to tapes taped by illegal means is a felony. Repeating anything on the tapes or purchasing the tapes is a felony. Why do you think nobody purchased the tapes and LE told her to burn them? The people that where recorded illegally by Donna, Art Harris, Steph Watts, Tim Miller etc. have one hell of a lawsuit. Slam dunk! I have a feeling some reporter(s) might be in need of attorneys.
Alethea it was a typo but it has been fixed. Sorry about that.
Jan Barrett
Another thing that letter is “allegedly” was written 10-30 but was just given to her last week. I have a hard time believing that one, I think it was backdated myself.
IMO every person that is connected to this case has not told the or their whole story. Theres more truths that needs to come out from Tim M., and the whole dang bunch. I am livid over this case. WHERE IS HALEIGH??????
Of course I have no proof… but I am convinced that MC and DB paths crossed BEFORE HaLeigh went missing!!!
If the photo had been taken a year or more earlier I might have thought they were going to send it to Sindee Anthony! lol!
Ain’t Donna a classy broad?
M2C… when I grow up, I want to be just like her… NOT!!!!
All I can say is the woman has class. Doesn’t she? Not!
Karon Cox said,in January 27th, 2010 at 7:58 pm All I can say is the woman has class. Doesn’t she? Not
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She thinks she is..NOT!!!!!!!!!
nice nails!lol
Notice the only ones flipping off are Donna and three people behind her. Her buddies?
NG just released a tape of an interview of Ronald coming from jail. He is still threatening to kill whoever took Haleigh. He said this was a setback in his life and when he gets out, this will serve to remind him what he should be doing, instead of what he was doing, or what he was accused of doing.(oops a little slip there).
I think Ron is doing damage control for when he is in prison. The general population is not going to be kind to him. I cant get over the fact that he is whining about no tv really did he think jail would be a resort vacation or what? moo
Yes Karen I just saw that show. Ron made a shout out to his family and his girlfriend and told them he loved them. He would not say who his gf was. She must be very understanding of his and Mistys relationship and her new tribal tattoo with his name above. Yes he is still threatening to kill whoever is behind Haleighs disappearance.
I cannot say he definitely knows anything. Hopefully soon we will all know what happened to Haleigh.
His lawyer must be having a stroke right now.
The interview sounded like he is losing it big time. He contradicts himself several times in it and first he says police say its about haleigh and then he says they never questioned him about haleigh. Then he is claiming to have another girlfriend, who cares? Or was that said to distance himself from Misty? The guy needs to shut his mouth if he ever wants to get out of prison. How does he know Tommys bond got reduced? Makes you wonder who is telling him whats going on and dont they know calls are recorded in jail? jmo
Tobias:
He didn’t face reality, for sure. I guess, it took a baseball bat over the head to get his attention. He said he believed if Misty knew anything, she would have already talked, especially, if they had her locked up like they had him.
He also mentioned that he knew Tommy and Misty’s bail had been reduced.
He is in panic mode thats why he called Teresa 8 times, not because he is lonely. He is really paniced in the interview. jmo
He, definitley, sounds like he is trying to distance himself from Misty. After all, this is all her fault.
I think he knows Misty is gonna talk and he is scared to death. jmo
IMO I feel Ron was set up. The persons name has not been meantioned who it was that he new that called him over to the car. Something is just fishy about this too in my eyes.
The UC will never be revealed or they can never work again. jmo
He is fully realizing what is going to be his life, for a long time. I think he is screaming, I will kill whoever took my daughter to keep people’s eyes off of him, as a suspect.
Under cover police put themselves at risk enough without getting identified. He will testify in court but will not be photographed or named this would let him work undercover again as this is his job. jmo
tobias,
I thought it was a friend of Rons too, then the LE and UC peeps came out?
Ron thought he was a friend and thats why he says he got inthe car with a friend but it was the UC.jmo
Ton really admitted he was guilty when he said what he did about this will serve to remind me what I should be doing, instead of what I was doing.
Temptation was dangled in front of him, that’s for sure.
Karon, I believe you are right. And he sounds almost in a panic state.jmo
We all need to thank god nothing happened to Junior while he was with Ron and Misty all this time. Like the road rage with Cjones, Junior was put in danger more than we know thats my feeling, Ron put him at risk selling drugs ,he even drove that very identifiable truck with the motto on the back window . arrrrg
I just cnt stand how he was so reckless with parenting. jmo
The UC shouldn’t be named Tobias but mistakes happen.
I believe he is in a panic state, and I hope Misty is being told how he is already distancing himself from her and saying he has another girlfriend. She needs to know he will throw her under the bus and, moty likely, already has.
I think the UC was getting scared of these people when he wouldnt meet them on Dunns creek bridge. I researched the bridge and awful things have happened there. jmo
I still can’t reconcile this shout out to the GF… How do they find the time/thoughts for that crap?
Tobias,
LOL (whining about no tv - did he think jail would be a resort vacation?)
Maybe a post card of the pink undershorts and chain gangs at Maricopa County, Arizona jail would help him put things in perspective, appreciate how better off he is than the inmates there.
Jason,
I like your way of thinking.
lol And the last thing I would worry about is not getting to shower. I would go the whole 25 without a shower. jmo
Tobias, wonder if Dunns is the bridge Jacques Hollander talked about.
Tobias:
Jr. was in danger, most likely, many times. That road incident was awful. Violence is never far from Ron, whether he is causing it, or someone else. When you live that lifestyle, you invite danger. Haleigh could have died during an altercation with fists flying, drugs bein used, or guns being pulled.
Thank you, Anne. I like yours too, dear.
I believe Donna Brock had/has the guts to tell the truth about what happened within TES and probably has done so. The problem is likely that she was threatened with being buried by
Mark NeJame as so many others clam to have been when they have attempted to stand up and tell the truth about TES. Those who she likely told are in the same boat….they tell what they know…NeJame will be calling. Why does NeJame continue to represent this group and allow his name to be used to threaten people?? One might even wonder if he knows his name is used to keep people quiet?
The whole story is sad. So many ruined lives.
And bottom line, a beautiful child remains missing.
Idont know if it is, but Chads relative Jeff was killed on that bridge on Jan. 7 2009 supposed ly walking in the road and hit by some old guy. Always seemed fishy to me but I have a suspisious mind. jmo
It pays to have a suspicious mind, when dealing with the Satsumas bunch or anyone related to them,
Jason said,in January 27th, 2010 at 9:46 pm Tobias, wonder if Dunns is the bridge Jacques Hollander talked about
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IMO I think this is the bridge she was talking about on that show.
Anne, From the very begingin when I started to research any event that happened right before Haleigh went missing and found out about Jeffery Griffis being killed on that bridge I felt the hairs on my body go up with goose bumps. Really gave me the creeps. jmo
Since Ron is in a talking mood, this may be an interesting few weeks.
I also found out that at one time a SO was living under that bridge with a ankle monitor on . His name was Nettles. The write up was called Troll under the bridge. ewwww.
tobias said,in January 27th, 2010 at 9:56 pm Anne, From the very begingin when I started to research any event that happened right before Haleigh went missing and found out about Jeffery Griffis being killed on that bridge I felt the hairs on my body go up with goose bumps. Really gave me the creeps. jmo
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I agree. I have done all that research too.
If he cant take a week without a tv hows he gonna make 25 years. He is gonna talk soon. jmo
tobias said,in January 27th, 2010 at 9:59 pm I also found out that at one time a SO was living under that bridge with a ankle monitor on . His name was Nettles. The write up was called Troll under the bridge. ewwww.
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Yep and the LE new this person was living under that bridge.
tobias said,in January 27th, 2010 at 10:01 pm If he cant take a week without a tv hows he gonna make 25 years. He is gonna talk soon. jmo
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If Ron is not guilty He has nothing to talk about right?
Donna is disgusting and not a Lady in my book of definitions. I never liked the whole idea of “Undercover Drama Mama” since the very beginning and knew it stank to High Heavens nostrils. Shame. This case and the actions of these people are in-excusable.
There’s a precious little girl gone, taken from her home in the middle of the night, and she needs to be found and brought home to her correct family who deserve her.
I’m not happy about these drug dealings, but this really looks like a set up towards Ron. I want the guilty to get caught and punished. But I don’t want underhanded, sneaky crap going on trying to entrap and tempt anyone to do something. Whoever is guilty, will show their guilt soon enough, and will not go free forever.
If Ron didn’t have anything to do with Haleigh missing, then he is being continually victimized, even during his own wrongness. I personally would be probably needing drugs myself if my child was taken out of my own home in the middle of the night, seriously folks I tell the truth. Shamefully I tell it, but it is what it is, truth.
Donna and her ilk kinds has made a mockery of this serious heartwrenching case and is a slap in the face to Haleigh, her beloved family and every honest citizen like us posters who give a darn about this case. And I don’t like gettin slapped.
Anne, have you researched enough to actually see the bridge? I have and its got no lights on it and its very remote. Creeepy too. jmo
Some “mother figure.”
I recall reading about Jeff, a young guy in his thirties, and his wife having a restraining order on a man who shortly after Jeff died, shared a home with the wife.
Not sure I am recollecting the story correctly, or even that what was reported is true.
If true, I wonder if Jeff wanted the restraining order, but his wife did not.
Or, maybe the woman had a problematic relationship with the man prior to Jeff’s death, and lifted the restraining order after his death, similar to the behavior of Misty and her brother Hank. Asking for a restraining order one day, requesting it be removed the next.
Kool Look said,in January 27th, 2010 at 10:03 pm
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I am not happy about the drugs dealings either and I also feel he was set-up.I agree with you.
tobias said,in January 27th, 2010 at 10:04 pm Anne, have you researched enough to actually see the bridge? I have and its got no lights on it and its very remote. Creeepy too. jmo
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Spooky!!!!!
Anne, For me ,by his actions and whats transpired recently I have my doubts about his total innocence. jmo
tobias said,in January 27th, 2010 at 10:07 pm Anne, For me ,by his actions and whats transpired recently I have my doubts about his total innocence. jmo
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His actions being drugs dont mean he harmed Haleigh by no means IMO.She was a daddys girl as you can see that in all of there pics. Eyes dont lie.
He wasnt set up no one said hey Ron you have to go get drugs and sell them to an under cover cop. He should have been at home with Junior. And this all occured after the road rage with CJones, if that didnt wake him up to the danger he was putting Junior in nothing would. jmo
Someone has got it out for him ever sence Haleigh went missing. JMI.
Simon, why do you like to zoom-in? LOL That pic makes me sick. TY for the update.
There is a case right now in the area where I live. A2 year old was shot while some guys were either robbing or dealing out of her families home. I bet they loved their daughter to. But thier drug dealings got her killed. jmo
I wonder what Donna’s manicure looks like, now?
Most of us are probably aware that it is illegal in some states to tape conversations without the knowledge and consent of the parties being recorded.
But it occurs to me to ask, Supposing certain people really did listen to tapes that were recorded under illegal circumstances. What state were they in when they were listening to the tapes (versus making the tapes), and does it make a difference?
Because I can’t believe some of these people would be that stupid. The ordinary citizen-blogger might be swept away with emotion and do or say something rash, but a lot of these people are in professions where you would think they would know better. So I thought, maybe they do know something about the legalities that the average person might not know?
It’s really a snake-pit isn’t it. “Just my opinion.”
hehehe
tobias, I agree with your discontent for Ron, especially after these latest events. It’s reasonable to have these feelings.
But I can’t help but go back to this: If Ron is innocent of Haleigh, his actions of being destructive are very much “common” unfortunately for those going through such tragedies, especially tragedies that’s dragging out long and longer, without answers, without LE working with you at all.
With everyone hating you, most hating him for no good reasons other than he made choices some feel were soooo soooo bad. I know many people who use kids from 13 years and up to baby sit. That doesn’t make him a bad parent. His was at work.
I agree no one forced Ron to buy or sell drugs, but he shouldn’t have been set up either, period. That’s wrong too! If we’re going to qualify wrongness, we need to use well balanced scales, not diverse weights and give others permission to break laws, do wrong, entrap, I don’t care if their LE, it’s wrong. There’s too many available honest options in doing our jobs, LE job to investigate with without doing the very things their out arresting others for. I’ve never agreed with that. It runs to parrell and leaves room for error and mis-judgement along with abuse of authority. Didn’t mean to write you a book Darlin.
AnneinTN, thanks Sweetie for your comment. I feel too many investigative tools are available, along with reward money available to get people talking without all this crap going on since the beginning of this messed up case. When this case is over, I promise I won’t be following another missing childs case, unless it’s handled from get jump street like Somer Thompsons, or Sandra Cantu’s. LE was on top of their game, used wisdom and experience and ran those cases showing the family and public honor and respect.
Karon Cox said,in January 27th, 2010 at 10:17 pm I wonder what Donna’s manicure looks like, now?
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I bet shes chewed them to the quick…LOL
Some states allow tapes and some states its illegal. Do we know what State the tapes were even made in ?JMO
Noone twisted Ronald’s arm. This isn’t the first time he has been in trouble over drugs. This is Ronald Cummings way of life. He can’t quit spewing threats while he is trying to get out of trouble. Impulse control is totally lacking.
I find this Donna Brock woman as very odd. I think there are rifts going back and fourth between Art, TJ. Crystal and her lawyer. I don’t have an opinion on that and I don’t want to have one. I believe in 2nd chances and giving credit where credit is due. Mr.Miller may not have great public speaking abilities and he is not going to win cop of the year award any time soon. He does and has done a lot of good work for a lot of families and children. He is very good with the best of equipment for what he does well, ground searches. I don’t hold him accountable for Donna Brock’s behaving badly or this drug thing. I know what it is like to be painted with a brush and it is not fair. In the future should this repeat well then…hmmmm. I certainly wouldn’t mind him going back to do more searches for her and hopefully he will. I think that is the key finding Haleigh focus on “finding Haleigh” rather than spending time and money on blaming Misty with hopes that will yield Haleigh, apparently the strategy is not working.
God Bless Haleigh and all her families
Alethea, Karon Cox and Anne, you ladies are making me crack up over here, hehehehe love it. Good points and I agree
Kool Look said,in January 27th, 2010 at 10:24 pm
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I want be following another case either. I will be done but i will keep praying for all our kids.
After the road rage incident, Misty told one of the talk-show hosts (Steph or Levi), that she was AFRAID to WALK.
Caught my eye on the police report is the multiple times she told UC where she would be walking, so UC could pick her up.
Misty lived with CJ and his family. If she was trafficking at that time, CJ probably knew that when selling, she had buyers pick her up as she strolled.
Was she afraid CJ would call police if he saw her walking to meet up with a buyer?
Kool Look said,in January 27th, 2010 at 10:27 pm Alethea, Karon Cox and Anne, you ladies are making me crack up over here, hehehehe love it. Good points and I agree
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How do I say this. LE may have had her to take the fake nails off and put them in her basket or what even they use in jail..LOL IDK
kOOL, Most law abiding citizens would not have gotten involved in this from the get go. He is not some one who has never been around the block, remember all the dropped charges against him? He just thought he would get away with it and he got caught. jmo
Annie:
Yep. Right down to the quick, I suspect.
Simon or Jan,
Do you have access to the incident report related to Donna Brock’s “transaction”/ arrest and the Va, Ga dentist stuff? It has been referred to by a few here….and…the bald guy made some reference on NG tonight to same. I don’t go over there, if y’all post we will know it is legit. TIA
And it makes me sick when he claims its all because Haleighs missing. That just brought his drug dealing to everyones attention. jmo
katfish said,in January 27th, 2010 at 10:32 pm Simon or Jan,
Do you have access to the incident report related to Donna Brock’s “transaction”/ arrest and the Va, Ga dentist stuff? It has been referred to by a few here….and…the bald guy made some reference on NG tonight to same. I don’t go over there, if y’all post we will know it is legit. TIA
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Kat, TY …yes i want to know this as well.
Good night all. Pray for Haleigh
I just went to the Forum to look up something and there are only 2 topis on Haleigh. What has happened to all the info that use to be there?
Maybe someone should send Ron a sleep mask?
So he can sleep on top of his cot. lol
tobias I do understand how you feel. Your angry, and I know alot of your anger is because we don’t have answers about Haleigh and I know you have spent many hours doing research in hopes to find anything that could help bring this case to a resolve. Have I told you how much I appreciate you? I do!! Bunches friend!!
I am going to say though, that I do believe as some are saying too, “That Ron is being targetted because of Haleigh”. It’s just the darn truth. If he’s guilty, then we can all have good clean conscious’ (sp?) If he didn’t have anything to do with her abduction, I’m gonna feel real bad about how he has been treated along with others if they are innocent also.
Dusty Rose, good post. Katfish, I’m behind in my reading on the forums, blogs, investigative reports, listening to tapes and latest shows I missed over the weekend, this is the first I’m hearing about Donna B. and some dentist incident that might be of interest to us, can you give me a quick heads up please? Bless You Darling.
If all of this had started after Haleigh went missing, I would blame it all on that, but this has been going on for years.
Sorry had to add something. I bet all the others in the picture sure are sorry they are in it.lol
tobias, have you looked at the Haleigh info on the forum? Most of it is gone.
treece said,in January 27th, 2010 at 10:46 pm tobias, have you looked at the Haleigh info on the forum? Most of it is gone.
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Stuff is gone missing all over the net. things have disapeared fast.
AnneInTn,
Do you mean Web sites are being hacked?
Let’s go back to the long term behavior of the parties. You have a father with a rap sheet a mile long, but no convictions, which means he was turning names or something…but the main thing is he was “caught” with drugs and dealing, lots of violence and an obvious criminal history of young girls and beating his kids. This “work” he was doing had not been long. HE WAS A LIFE LONG LOAFER FOLKS from one job to the other. He was a drug dealer and he got caught. Please.
The others were drug dealing and got caught. They may have been small time, but this is criminal behavior. Why does everyone feel sorry for this low life bum? He knows, she knows and they all know. Who will talk first and then everyone can eat their words.
Behavior doesn’t change easily or overnight. Guilty behavior of a crime is to leave the area. What did the father do…move out immediately. Guilty behavior. Change his behavior. Quit his job. Spend money. Continue dealing drugs.
Well guess what their dope dealing days are over, unless he gets out of it ….again….
Drug dealing by anyone, at any time is not a set up. It is a crime…Hellooooo????
Jason said,in January 27th, 2010 at 10:53 pm AnneInTn,
Do you mean Web sites are being hacked?
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IDK what I mean Jason. When you go to look for something about this case its gone.imo
Why now? Someone not happy with information recently released?
Kool, Even if he is not directly involved in her being missing, his actions more than likely lead to it. If he lets himself believe that he is responcible even indirectly it would crush him. Its called denial…..jmo
AnneInTn,
I’ll check it out, do a search for articles I have read.
Jason, this has been going on for a while now. Not just sence this last news.
I don’t see Ron as being set up!! I think he chose to exercise that crazy behavior. He was not forced in the UC car, he was not forced into a conversation about a future deal. I even suspect that this was an example of some kind of twisted, male, ego bullshit… on his part. Perhaps trying to impress, or simply feeling that he is RON, he can’t be touched.
ALSO… WHO NEEDED TO KNOW THAT HE HAD A GIRLFRIEND? Most men his age would say, I want my Woman to know that I love HER.
Yes… I’m wondering if she is a… ahh hummmm a Jr. Miss!!!
*** I still stand by the lifestyle angle ***
AnneInTn said,in January 27th, 2010 at 9:24 pm IMO I feel Ron was set up. The persons name has not been meantioned who it was that he new that called him over to the car. Something is just fishy about this too in my eyes.
I totally agree now too Ann,who the hello would buy drug’s,walk beside the road to sell them,keep them there knowingggggg theyve been the center of the case since day 1,keep them in the car….after they’d been jaileed previously for other things so small??
Does not add up to me at all! And imo,i am starting to think maybe someone had misty robbed b/c they knew she was going to get drug’s that night and that way it would be thrown into the public’s eye and national news!!!
2 cents I agree with your total blog. moo
Cathyjo, So have you seen the woman who trys to get an undercover cop to kill her husband on audio and video? Was she set up? No she was committing a crime. jmo
And, Ya know, Yes Ron had problems with drugs and so did Crystal. My point is that the judge still gave these kids to Ron knowing he had drug problem (maybe)This dont make him a killer or the one that took Haleigh or harmed her is my point.JMO.
beautiful*adams (cent) said,in January 27th, 2010 at 10:56 pm I don’t see Ron as being set up!! I think he chose to exercise that crazy behavior. He was not forced in the UC car, he was not forced into a conversation about a future deal. I even suspect that this was an example of some kind of twisted, male, ego bullshit… on his part. Perhaps trying to impress, or simply feeling that he is RON, he can’t be touched.
ALSO… WHO NEEDED TO KNOW THAT HE HAD A GIRLFRIEND? Most men his age would say, I want my Woman to know that I love HER.
Yes… I’m wondering if she is a… ahh hummmm a Jr. Miss!!!
*** I still stand by the lifestyle angle ***
Well after all the lies and corruption now,who knows they havent told R that misty is out and letting him take the wrap or something similar? They are in different jail’s and R is by himself in a cell?? wouldn’t surprise me one bit NOW!
Hi Cent, how could he be thinking he CAN’T be touched when his daughter has been gone almost a year?
Or are you gonna say she was trapped into making all those statements too? moo
Ann,right and b/c ron’s in jail doesn’t make cs a mother!!!
Kool Look- On the earlier post with links to some of the the Documents released (incident reports of some of the transactions)
http://www.bloggernews.net/123656#comment-1493118
there were several references to a document about Donna Brock’s transactions, here is one post:
peggy said,in January 27th, 2010 at 9:23 a.m. “When I was reading the doc. with Misty and Donnas drug deal,I thought it was interesting that Misty told the UC that they were in Va. and Brunswick Ga. That Donna had about a $1000.00 worth of pills to sell because she needed the money. A few sentences later said that Donna would get a few hundred more in about 3 months. To me it says that maybe Donna was a main supplier.”
I know I saw another reference that said a UC was identified on the document.
Tonight on NG, AH referred to VA and GA but threw in a Dentist….I don’t go over there (AH)because I question authenticity of his reports so… I wondered if the Barrett’s knew anything about this. I think I’ll go look over at skynews and see if TJ has the doc. It may be B.S.
tobias said,in January 27th, 2010 at 11:04 pm Cathyjo, So have you seen the woman who trys to get an undercover cop to kill her husband on audio and video? Was she set up? No she was committing a crime. jmo
That has nothing to do with this case Tobias,explain to me what you mean exactly.I don’t get it!!
If you look at these new docs that have came out about the hidden leads,tips,evidence and setting up a black man!!!!!!!!! I rest my case!
CathyJo63 said,in January 27th, 2010 at 11:07 pm Ann,right and b/c ron’s in jail doesn’t make cs a mother!!!
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treece said,
in January 27th, 2010 at 10:46 pm
tobias, have you looked at the Haleigh info on the forum? Most of it is gone.
Tobias, didn’t know if you ignored my last post or if you just didn’t see it so I re posted here.
Thanks,
Treece
Hi Treece,
I believe because of all the charges that didn’t stick! But, I never said “Whom” he couldn’t be touched “By” or “Why”.
I do not believe that HE harmed HaLeigh!!!
I was talking about entrapment. and I HAVE SEEN NO EVIDENCE THAT YOU ARE REFERING TO. JMO
iCANT GET INTO THE FORUM MY PASS WORD ISNT WORKING
beautiful adams, I see what you were saying.
Thanks,
Teresa
tobias, Dont look like theres ever gona be any EVIDENCE in this case.Moooo!!!!!!
tobias said,in January 27th, 2010 at 9:41pm
“I think the UC was getting scared of these people when he wouldnt meet them on Dunns creek bridge. I researched the bridge and awful things have happened there. jmo”
just curious T, where did u read UC wouldn’t go to the bridge?
Thanks for answering tobias. Has anyone else looked at the forum here tonight?
iN THE INCIDENT RECORDS.
Yes, also giving birth sure in the hell does NOT make you a Mother… donating sperm does NOT make you a Father!!! I think they both love their children, I think Ron adores HaLeigh. I just think they made poor choices in the beginning and stayed on that road. Now that JR is with Mommy, lets give her a chance.
And I agree… just because someone is charged with Pill Flippin, does NOT make them a Murderer, just a Possible Criminal. (conviction, then a CRIMINAL)
i REALLY GOTTO GO NOW , i HAVE TO GO TO WORK EARLY IN THE MORN. pray for haleigh.
Ok friends, I am thinking it was a problem with my computer because I can find the other topics now. Thanks, Treece
The Audio will tell ALL…..Can’t wait to hear it!
treece said,in January 27th, 2010 at 10:46 pm “tobias, have you looked at the Haleigh info on the forum? Most of it is gone.”
Hi Treece i know this isn’t directed to me but I checked the Haleigh thread over on the forum, what seems to be missing is the original discussion thread from when the forum was first opened and the stickies with links that HollyGMom started. There might be something else but I can say for sure those as I remember posting on both….aamof I spent quite a bit of time getting links to videos on YouTube. ????
katfish, thank you, I now know I wasn’t just crazy but I think they are showing up now. Go look and see if you can it all now. Treece
I gotta tell ya what I think now too,I think maybe Misty was lying but only b/c she wasn’t home and was afraid to tell Ronald,ya know because remember on the LD test when the guy who was giving it to her said,what are you not telling me just now? There’s something you’re not truthful about,that was after she said,I woke up and you know the rest!!!!
makes ya wonder how many lives have been ruined and innocent people sent to prison for covered up BS!
People do stupid things all of the time, especially, when they are on drugs. There is no reasoning out why some people do things. They get bolder the more they get by with breaking the law. Sure, I think, LE was crouching like a tiger, waiting for this chance. This case has made them look really bad, and they don’t like it. Someone is going to talk or they will never let up.
Misty is 18 and scared!!!!
she would have told by now unless “she is telling the truth”and she doesn’t know….how can she tell when she simply doesn’t know!!
Exactly Karon!
In the beginning Misty said she saw 4 people. And I will have to find the info to proof this if its not gone.But my point is yes misty may have been using that nite and passed out and maybe someone even threatened her if she did talk. Guess I am just thinking out loud here.I will be surprised if anyone talks.imo
Audio Holly’s??
The date on the photo is 10/27/2009, she was let go 10/30/2009. Why is it supposed to be Tim Miller she supposedly flipping off? She seems generally disgusting so to see her flipping anyone off doesn’t surprise me.
tobias said,
in January 27th, 2010 at 9:26 pm
The UC will never be revealed or they can never work again.
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Kind of late now, the cat is out of the bag with PCSO not redacting his name out of Donna’s report.
I think that they all, especially Misty knows more than she claims. And if “they” truly did NOT know much in the beginning, they know MORE now!! What happened to the new PI?
tobias said,in January 27th, 2010 at 11:15 pm iN THE INCIDENT RECORDS.
Tobias- was this in reference to my question at 11:14? If so thanks for responding. We must have read that differently…maybe I’ve read it wrong…or was it on a different incident report.
Call #5: M. Cummings advised UC that she can get him 70 pills “right now:’ M. Cummings told UC to bring $500.00 to pay for the pills. M. Cummings told UC to go to the Dunns Creek Bridge and call her when he arrives.
Call #6: UC advised M. Cummings he was there at the location and there was a law Enforcement Officer under the bridge. M. Cummings directed UC to go to the Billa gas staion. (UC’s conversation in this call was recorded with the video from inside the vehicle)
I read this the UC went and had a LEO stationed under the bridge but instead of meeting him there MC had him meet at the gas station.
I agree Ann,i do more than ever,i mean 2 days ago Ann,you could have never convinced me that r and c were NOT involved,now i have to wonder??
I really believe they were set up,all this new stuff just explain’s alot and we trusted the PCSD b/c they are the le!
but nowwwwww,OMG is all I can say!!!!
It makes me wonder now too about the rose they said she talked about! Then the SAY they found a rose?? but nothing else.
these ppl deserve life plus b/c they’ve done more damage and hid everything knowing they were framing someone! and who was really involved! I say,allllllll of em’ should take R & M’s place!
I assume someone close to Ron has told him about the bonds getting lowered. He is able to take/make calls and such I guess? If that is the case then they can all send messages to one another through other people who may not have a clue.If that was the case then why bother separating them from each other?
Vaquera said,in January 27th, 2010 at 11:36 pm tobias said,
in January 27th, 2010 at 9:26 pm
The UC will never be revealed or they can never work again.
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Kind of late now, the cat is out of the bag with PCSO not redacting his name out of Donna’s report.
Hi Vaquera! Can you please tell me where this report can be found??? pweeeze?
Michelle said,in January 27th, 2010 at 11:41 pm
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In a report it stated that Ron was separated from them for safety…correct me if i am wrong.
Ron’s lawyer or a jail employee could have told him someone’s bond was lowered
It’s just all weird now,and because of it i’d say alot of ppl will walk and alot of ppl will or should go broke and to prison and lose their position’s!
Vaq… whattttt????? I didn’t notice that, while I read it to my sister over the phone. I was saying “Detective Blank, identified Brock as the person….
I didn’t hear of Misty speaking of 4 people until the voice stress analysis test. Did I miss something? I noticed, on that test, she didn’t mention a dream until the instructor asked her, if she had a dream. At first, she said no, then a little later, she came up with the I had a dream and I saw 4 people in the house. I thought he put that in her mind, and she went with it after she flunked all those tests.
yes Ann it did!!
and it did say to so they cannot communicate which is why i say they could be telling him different than he knows!
seem’s logical,
Did I miss something… whose bail reduced?
I don’t claim to be a rocket scientist but after listening to blog talks and seeing these photos of DONNA on this site, I question her and her own plan of 15 minutes of fame. If she disagreed with TM these photos are not the correct way to do it for a 40 something female. How does a so called MATURE woman go down this path with a teenager? She’s just feeding dysfunction to a complicated mess. Why was she in the drug bust. Look at her, it’s a way of life for her too!!!! I’m not saying TM was right or wrong but this Donna must be responsible for her actions.
Michelle said,in January 27th, 2010 at 11:41 pm I assume someone close to Ron has told him about the bonds getting lowered. He is able to take/make calls and such I guess? If that is the case then they can all send messages to one another through other people who may not have a clue.If that was the case then why bother separating them from each other?
Exactly right!!!
Hey Treece - No you aren’t crazy friend….except…I still don’t see the missing threads.LOL
treece said,in January 27th, 2010 at 11:44 pm Ron’s lawyer or a jail employee could have told him someone’s bond was lowered
Yea true Treece,a trustee,anybody??
From my County Jail experience, Ad Seg Inmates still get to read the newspapers.
Katfish,
UC told Misty an officer was under the bridge, but that does not mean there really was.
UC would know that surely, Misty would not want to meet under the bridge knowing a police officer is there.
Seems to me, UC did not want to meet under the bridge, as Misty suggested.
Karon Cox said,in January 27th, 2010 at 11:46 pm I didn’t hear of Misty speaking of 4 people until the voice stress analysis test. Did I miss something? I noticed, on that test, she didn’t mention a dream until the instructor asked her, if she had a dream. At first, she said no, then a little later, she came up with the I had a dream and I saw 4 people in the house. I thought he put that in her mind, and she went with it after she flunked all those tests.
Hm i never heard about the 4 ppl!
judithan said,in January 27th, 2010 at 11:49 pm I don’t claim to be a rocket scientist but after listening to blog talks and seeing these photos of DONNA on this site, I question her and her own plan of 15 minutes of fame. If she disagreed with TM these photos are not the correct way to do it for a 40 something female. How does a so called MATURE woman go down this path with a teenager? She’s just feeding dysfunction to a complicated mess. Why was she in the drug bust. Look at her, it’s a way of life for her too!!!! I’m not saying TM was right or wrong but this Donna must be responsible for her actions.
LMBO!!!! Now that’s funny!!Exactly what i thought,she’s a bit old,I’m 47 and I’ve gave 2 very deserving person’s the bird but i was young and dumb too!
She just look’s like a thug to me!! LoL Prolly why she got the uc job!
HollyGmom- have you checked out the Haleigh thread at the forum. We noticed your stickies thread and the 1st discussion thread are gone? Just wondering.
I see now about the bridge… I read it as the author of the report was relaying the cop under the bridge as additional info.
Reason: too dark to get good video under the bridge? Safety?
Jason I don’t think the UC told Misty there was an officer under the bridge….I think that was a footnote in the report and should have been in (footnote). If he told Misty there was a cop under the bridge I have a feeling the deal would have been off.
Investigators may have told Ron about the lowered bail on Misty and Tommy to make him think they are talking, and he will be left holding the bag. I am sure they are playing one against the other.
ya know,all this going on and they meet to sell an unknown person drug’s,for someone to do that and I am assuming also they were big time supplier’s in satsuma with alot of ppl to sell to,
somebody can’t have one piece of brain matter left!!
Karon Cox said,in January 27th, 2010 at 11:46 pm I didn’t hear of Misty speaking of 4 people until the voice stress analysis test. Did I miss something? I noticed, on that test, she didn’t mention a dream until the instructor asked her, if she had a dream. At first, she said no, then a little later, she came up with the I had a dream and I saw 4 people in the house. I thought he put that in her mind, and she went with it after she flunked all those tests
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I could not remember how the 4 people came in this pic, ty
Right Kat! and they can!
Well with Ron talking to TN, she could of told him that the bond had lowerd too.imo
Me either Ann,I thought as much as i’ve read and follwed the case i had missed nothing,i didn’t know about the rose till a few week’s back or thepix with Ron and Haleigh and now this!
CathyJo63 said,
in January 28th, 2010 at 12:03 am
ya know,all this going on and they meet to sell an unknown person drug’s,for someone to do that and I am assuming also they were big time supplier’s in satsuma with alot of ppl to sell to,
somebody can’t have one piece of brain matter left!!
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were their bond’s lowered,when?
I am serious!
I mean to me it make’s no sense,period!
I am thinking they’ve been set up!
The lowest thing i ever heard was mg,her Gma giving Haleigh’s shoes away right after she’s gone missing??? I am a grandma,I still have my Gson’s 1st little pair of size 0 Nike’s and he’s 9 now and I am starting to wonder about those ppl!!!!!!
Ron deserves the complete and total book thrown at him. You can choose to make all the excuses in the world, you can choose to slam Crystal as much as you want to make yourself feel better about Ron, but that won’t get him out of jail, period.
Nancy Grace disgusts me. She has a *soft spot* for Ronnie boy? Give me a break. Can we all say “HYPOCRITE” together? Why is it that Crystal was the monster of the year for doing drugs and not taking care of her kids, yet Ron has done NOTHING but get into trouble and drugs, deny and lie that he ever did drugs and yet, she finds a soft spot for him? WTF is she thinking? She has lost any credibility she had with me. Can’t have it both ways *Miss Nancy*
Ron isn’t sleeping under the cot because of the lights being on, Ron is sleeping under the cot because that is his nature. Dogs sleep under beds and that is exactly what he is. How anyone can defend him baffles me beyond words. Anyone who can defend a man who puts his son in danger like that, time and time and time again is a lost soul, in my opinion. Where was all this talk of finding Haleigh prior to his arrest? Where was this passion to find Haleigh prior to the arrest? Tonight on NG, his love for his “girlfriend” was code for Misty, we all know it. Same way the Anthony’s spoke in code at Caylee’s funeral, come on people!
Next thing someone is going to say is Ronald was going to use the drug money to set up a search party for Haleigh. I apologize for the rant, but I have no idea on this planet why anyone would even begin to defend him, knowing what he has done & the total disregard for his children. One is missing, one he doesn’t acknowledge and one he obviously doesn’t give a rip about because drugs and tatting Misty’s behind is waaaaaaaaaaaay more important than getting his butt out there to find Haleigh. How TN can throw stones at everyone else besides her own precious drug infested son, is beyond me. Just pathetic!!!
Here katfish,it’s at the bottom of page 4.
http://download.gannett.edgesuite.net/wtlv/docs/012610_croslin4.pdf
cent- Phone interview from RC on NG tonight that Misty’s bond was lowered to $150,000 and Tommy’s to I think $7,500. He didn’t say where he heard it…maybe his mom????
Ron said is in seg for his protection because this is a high profile case. I think he can make phone calls, they hand the handset through his meal slot, but I really doubt he can receive calls. He must be on lockdown, usually seg has a dayroom….wonder if just policy or was he a bad boy?? who knows.
Jason and cent- The report said Misty told the UC to call her when he got to the bridge. Report says UC called Misty when got to the meeting spot. Funny how the written word can be interpreted so many ways because you don’t have the benefit of interaction….at the end of the day doesn’t matter. The report does state the audio/video recorder was in the UC vehicle during all transactions.
Attaboy, you come here with your post to incite anger and strife. There’s been no one here bashing and putting Crystal down. Lie! What does that make someone who does this?
Shame on you for coming here and putting the posters down, you are the one that bashes people by what you have described as being written in posts here, in turn bashing us. Good riddance.
atta boy, you asked,
How TN can throw stones at everyone else besides her own precious drug infested son, is beyond me. Just pathetic!!!
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I don’t think she’s throwing stones at everyone else, she’s just blocking a few of the 1000’s that are being thrown at Ron. You are right it is pathetic.
Katfish,
I don’t think the deal would be off just because she couldn’t meet with the buyer at the first location. At least once, she told the UC buyer she was afraid of getting caught (when she had the largest number of pills for sale), but in spite of her fear, she sold him the pills.
Say she told the buyer to meet her at Bi-Lo, but the buyer drove past Bi-Lo after seeing a police car parked out front. The buyer calls her back, tells her police are at the Bi-Lo, and she tells him to meet her at a different location.
Karon Cox said,in January 28th, 2010 at 12:03 am Investigators may have told Ron about the lowered bail on Misty and Tommy to make him think they are talking, and he will be left holding the bag. I am sure they are playing one against the other.
woohoo!!! Thinking like a cop aren’t ya. makes since.
sense
NG said a few days ago the whole bunch made her sick, all of them. Tonight, since this interview, she has a soft place in her heart for Ron. She doesn’t have a soft place for Ron, she wants to get an interview with Ron, from jail for her show. She is playing him, again. That’s alright, because he has been playing her, too.
If any of you want the link for that jailhouse interview. It is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZLeZf6IkTA
Atta Boy Ronnieeeee said,in January 28th, 2010 at 12:13 am
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We are not here to bash anyone. Just stating the facts. Hope you feel better, Yeah, Just pathetic!!!Good Riddance.
I get what you are saying Jason and agree with your scenerio, but a cop who happened to be in a parking lot is a lot different than saying there is a cop under the bridge.(In my mind I wasn’t picturing the cop under the bridge in a car as the bridge crosses a creek, but I have no idea really)
I also assumed she told him to call when he got to the bridge and they could then decide where to meet him based on where they were after picking up da pills.
i think maybe ron seems panicked because the 2 croslins bail got reduced he is probably wondering if they are starting to spill the bean for a reduced bail. if i were him i would be panicked too…do we know why they got reduced? is it possible its just a way to get him to start talking? they say hey we have reduced misty’s bail shes been talking. so maybe ron will start talking???
Katfish:
This is their chance, and they will use every trick in the book. Ron doesn’t sound like he is holding up, too well.
AnneInTn- have you heard where the DB report is at yet?
AnneInTn- have you heard where the DB report is at yet?
AnneInTn- have you heard where the DB report is at yet?
Atta Boy Ronnieeeee said,in January 28th, 2010 at 12:13 am Ron deserves the complete and total book thrown at him. You can choose to make all the excuses in the world, you can choose to slam Crystal as much as you want to make yourself feel better about Ron, but that won’t get him out of jail, period.
Nancy Grace disgusts me. She has a *soft spot* for Ronnie boy? Give me a break. Can we all say “HYPOCRITE” together? Why is it that Crystal was the monster of the year for doing drugs and not taking care of her kids, yet Ron has done NOTHING but get into trouble and drugs, deny and lie that he ever did drugs and yet, she finds a soft spot for him? WTF is she thinking? She has lost any credibility she had with me. Can’t have it both ways *Miss Nancy*
Ron isn’t sleeping under the cot because of the lights being on, Ron is sleeping under the cot because that is his nature. Dogs sleep under beds and that is exactly what he is. How anyone can defend him baffles me beyond words. Anyone who can defend a man who puts his son in danger like that, time and time and time again is a lost soul, in my opinion. Where was all this talk of finding Haleigh prior to his arrest? Where was this passion to find Haleigh prior to the arrest? Tonight on NG, his love for his “girlfriend” was code for Misty, we all know it. Same way the Anthony’s spoke in code at Caylee’s funeral, come on people!
Next thing someone is going to say is Ronald was going to use the drug money to set up a search party for Haleigh. I apologize for the rant, but I have no idea on this planet why anyone would even begin to defend him, knowing what he has done & the total disregard for his children. One is missing, one he doesn’t acknowledge and one he obviously doesn’t give a rip about because drugs and tatting Misty’s behind is waaaaaaaaaaaay more important than getting his butt out there to find Haleigh. How TN can throw stones at everyone else besides her own precious drug infested son, is beyond me. Just pathetic!!!
I defend him now as of the last 2 day’s,I didn’t before that but anyone can see theres too much hidden in the investigation,No one is saying he wasn’t doing or dealing,half the world does too but they love their children and Ronald did and still does!
I say if he did buy and sell drugs it was a bad thing,we all do things that aint perfect but we do learn from it!!
But the ppl who went out of their way to get them busted and had Haleigh and/or knew where she was the entire time is worse than buyiing,selling or taking drug’s!
so they shouldn’t be held accountable for wrecking this little girl’s life and give the little boy to a woman who didn’t even have 1 picture of her children!!!!
AnneInTn- have you heard where the DB report is at yet?
Anne,here is the voice test,it’s pretty interesting now!!
notice certain point’s and when she say’s,”I don’t know what you’re trying to get out of me”
http://www.bloggernews.net/123666#comment-1493549
http://download.gannett.edgesuite.net/wtlv/docs/012610_croslin4.pdf
Also would be interesting to know if any schools were nearby when the drug transactions were taking place. In most States, if you are within a certain distance of schools and parks while making drug transactions, you are charged with it.
Good riddance? Says who?!!!!!
Sorry if I hit a soft spot, but Ron is a dawg in my opinion and it is my right to state this. 
katfish said,in January 28th, 2010 at 12:32 am AnneInTn- have you heard where the DB report is at yet?
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No. Hope Simon posts it when he gets it.Cant wait to see that one either.
Your darn tootin LE is gonna play each side against the other. They would be crazy not too. It’s a tactic used over and over during questionings. That’s how most cases are cracked and the truth is had. Someone makes a deal and talks. But not til their worked over good, tired, hungry, sleepy and told that LE already knows the truth now and their giving them this one chance to come clean and make things right. Maybe even throw in a reduced bond, jail time ploy to offer up information.
We’ll see if anything comes out, if it doesn’t, then truly I don’t believe Ron and Misty knows what happened to Haleigh because LE is definately gonna make the other think they have been turned on.
I can respect your opinion Cathy and appreciate it. But anyone who makes the choice to involve themselves in drug deals after already losing one child deserves the book thrown at them.
Here’s the rub, all the defending in the world will not bail his butt out of jail now. He finally is going to get what he deserves. I commend le for doing whatever it takes to bring Haleigh home and if that means sending their butts to prison for a cool 25 years, then so be it. Wasn’t it Ron’s very own words that were uttered “Maaaaaan, I can’t go anywhere without you guys following me and shoving camera’s in my face…”???? So how the heck did he think he’d get away with this? New move coming out in 2010, DUMB AND FREAKING DUMBER.
Attaboy,Then i have the right to say ou are the flower of manhood! A blooming Idiot!
Katfish-it’s all over the web at any local news site covering this story-open your eyes!
The UC was going by the name Jake Lee.
Kool Look said,in January 28th, 2010 at 12:39 am
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I agree but imo I feel LE knows what happened.
Kool,you are 100% correct!!!! I think if Misty knew she’d have already have broke,I think maybe she was gone and is lying about that to Ron or something like it…and it makes it all look bad! She’s young,scared todeath,18 and will be there forever,I’d talk! Wouldn’t you? But if you don’t know then you can’t!!!!
Katfish I posted the link a couple posts back.
As per forum:
Yes, some links I had started are gone now. I’m not really sure why. I posted in the Sunshine Laws thread started by Native Alien and it’s still there but threads I started are not. At least that I can see. Sorry to those who worked to post info that is now lost.
I am going to call my on scene witness to ask about photo’s of Crystal’s kids in her home. I think there were some, just not one of the three of them “hugged up together”. Still a dishonset manuever, but doesn’t mean she didn’t have any pics of them. They manufactured one that would be “prettier” then the one’s they had. Still wrong…so wrong! Fraud, if you ask me.
ROn admitted to what he had been doing….he knew, just didn’t want to believe he’d get caught. It’s almost like a gambling addiction. The rush off of getting away with a crime is almost as good as the drugs they were selling.
RATATAT- I just checked skynews they didn’t have it….been here all night. Thanks for giving me a nibble anyway
Tommy and Misty’s bonds were not lowered.
Matt Saffer reported a judge lowered Misty’s on Monday but there no documentation to back that up-he is a baffoon-got the whole Misty/Chelsea/Lindsy van story wrong and never corrected it.
Tommy’s bond on the trafficking charge was revoked (meaning 0-he cannot bond out)because he violated the terms of his bond he was out on from the charges last year in Putnam Co.
TJ has reported this-the info. has been posted on this site.
CathyJo63 said,in January 28th, 2010 at 12:44 am
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You were not directed this to me but right if she dont know she cant talk.imo
CathyJo63 said
Attaboy,Then i have the right to say ou are the flower of manhood! A blooming Idiot!
Thanks hon! But I think those words are better spoken about Ron as I am enjoying my freedom of speech and expressing my opinion, meanwhile back at the ranch, er I mean, jail, Ron lays on the ground underneath his cot. Ahhhh, ain’t freedom grand?!!
I think le hid what really happened!!
Atta Boy Ronnieeeee said,in January 28th, 2010 at 12:35 am Also would be interesting to know if any schools were nearby when the drug transactions were taking place. In most States, if you are within a certain distance of schools and parks while making drug transactions, you are charged with it.
Good riddance? Says who?!!!!! Sorry if I hit a soft spot, but Ron is a dawg in my opinion and it is my right to state this.
Didn’t say it wasn’t your right to state how you feel about Ron. But you don’t have a right to come in here and bash us and our posts, then lie about them while you bash. Then state, “If it makes you feel better to slam crystal and make excuses for Ron” kind of junk. I don’t slam Crystal, nor Ron. I also don’t make excuses for people. I also don’t abuse victims, like you do in your posts because as of right now Ron and Crystal are victims of their missing daughter.
But eh, using your own words back at cha, “If it makes you feel better about yourself”, who am I to wish you anything but Good Riddance.
Holly,mine are gone tooo!!!!!!
CathyJo-please do some research on T. Holmseth’s background. Don’t believe a word he reports. He takes people’s words and twists them to fit his agenda. The guy is a nutcase.
HOLLY,HANG ON I GOT THOSE!!!!!BRB
If Misty does know more there is only 1 senario wherein she will not reveal more….she was directly involved &/or conspiracy. Until we know for sure, it is still an option.
RATATAT said,in January 28th, 2010 at 12:48 am CathyJo-please do some research on T. Holmseth’s background. Don’t believe a word he reports. He takes people’s words and twists them to fit his agenda. The guy is a nutcase.
Oh,I have done lot’s of it and on KP and AH & CS & MG.Among other’s involved!
Atta Boy Ronnieeeee said,in January 28th, 2010 at 12:46 am CathyJo63 said
Attaboy,Then i have the right to say ou are the flower of manhood! A blooming Idiot!
Thanks hon! But I think those words are better spoken about Ron as I am enjoying my freedom of speech and expressing my opinion, meanwhile back at the ranch, er I mean, jail, Ron lays on the ground underneath his cot. Ahhhh, ain’t freedom grand?!
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YOU back off of her. It was quite and peaceful till you came along.
Thanks curious- do you mean a couple articles back? I don’t see any other posts you made on this one. Do you AnneInTn? Maybe I should call it a night.
Please file them where they will be safe.
Oh please. On those videos are those people’s voices. That was Ruby, that was Bowling,Cobra,Johnny. Since day one Kim put out the word on the net to paint him like a nut, the same way she did Annafl and anyone else who got in her way. You cannot twist someone’s own words out of their own damn mouths.
katfish said,in January 28th, 2010 at 12:53 am Thanks curious- do you mean a couple articles back? I don’t see any other posts you made on this one. Do you AnneInTn? Maybe I should call it a night
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No Sorry I dont either.
Right Holly’s,they had a few but they were the pix that were photoshopped to splice into the one of cs and the kid’s,Jr’s ear is gone??
and also the pic was one taken the day after a search awhile back (maybe b4 this happened)where I believe drug’s and paraphanelia were found by dcf!
Kool Look, aren’t you the same person who advocated taking drugs a few posts up? Huh, alrighty then.
Look, all I’m saying is there is absolutely NO excuse on this planet for Ron’s behavior. A set up is not what this was, Ron was not forced, he actively and willingly participated, believing he wouldn’t get caught and rightfully so! He never has been held accountable in the past for his criminal behavior, why would he possibly believe he’d be held accountable now? He is a grown man, with a missing daughter. Yet he spends his time hunting down drugs and involving himself in this CRIME. I say *good riddance* to Ron and have fun with your new cell mate - Bubba.
IN MY OPINION.
Vaquera said,in January 28th, 2010 at 12:55 am Oh please. On those videos are those people’s voices. That was Ruby, that was Bowling,Cobra,Johnny. Since day one Kim put out the word on the net to paint him like a nut, the same way she did Annafl and anyone else who got in her way. You cannot twist someone’s own words out of their own damn mouths.
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I agree. From their mouths to Gods ears.
CathyJo
My statement clearly went right over your head.
Don’t look at what he is reporting-look at him!
He is a nutjob!!!!
Atta Boy Ronnieeeee said,in January 28th, 2010 at 12:46 am CathyJo63 said
Attaboy,Then i have the right to say ou are the flower of manhood! A blooming Idiot!
Thanks hon! But I think those words are better spoken about Ron as I am enjoying my freedom of speech and expressing my opinion, meanwhile back at the ranch, er I mean, jail, Ron lays on the ground underneath his cot. Ahhhh, ain’t freedom grand?!!
As I did too,so i will not reply again to you! I can see you will accept no opinion but your’s..!!And i ain’t gonna beg ya!
Cathy, Anne and Hollys I agree with your latest posts. It’s all so sad. I want to see these families pick themselves up and do better.
Hollys, thanks so much for verifying the photoshopped pic of crystal in the middle on the sofa having the threesome hug with Jr. and Haleigh. I tried to discuss this photo and if it was photoshopped and was shut down for it somewhere else. Have they actually admitted it was done now? Last I saw, ole Art was still deny deny deny about the photoshopping. I so agree, it is fraud. But yet, no charges for that eh? All at the time raising monies from donations and sales. But yet, not searches for Haleigh, nor flyers, bill boards, helping other families of the missing, etc….
If they didn’t have a pic of the three of them, I wouldn’t have judged, though I would have wanted to see things like that were a part of their lives. But not to the point of making it fraudulent to fool the public, that’s uncalled for. Crystal was a young mother. Sometimes young people don’t get it about perserving memories until you get older. It doesn’t make them a bad person or bad Mother though. Geez. Got to go to bed, goodnight friends. Hugs
Atta Boy Ronnieeeee said,in January 28th, 2010 at 12:57 am
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In what crime? The drug crime or the Haleigh case. IMO at this point theres 2 differnt cases right now. Do tell, tell us what you know.We will listen, we are fair here.
RATATAT said,
in January 28th, 2010 at 12:58 am
CathyJo
My statement clearly went right over your head.
Don’t look at what he is reporting-look at him!
He is a nutjob!!!!
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Hi, why do youu believe he’s a Nutter?
AnneTN -Geez I just noticed my post to you at 12:32 went through um…a few times…sorry.
Kool, Goodnight.
Here is part 2 of Ron’s jailhouse interview
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2datc-IKZg
some one said they think le hid what happened? just curious why would they do that? i must have missed something.
Night Kool!
I have alot of those saved Holly!
attaboy, I don’t advocate illegal drug use. I was just thrown back when I learned just tonight the “drugs” were loratabs. I had figured some big bad drugs like heroine, morphine, percocet, crack, drugs man drugs LOL
Tylenol helped me out better than a loratab when I had fever and aches. But write it like you want it Riddanceboy.
RATATAT said,in January 28th, 2010 at 12:58 am CathyJo
My statement clearly went right over your head.
Don’t look at what he is reporting-look at him!
He is a nutjob!!!!
I know,I’m sorry I saw that,I am in 3 places,sending,saving,typing….LoL and I am ole!!
Goodnight Darlings and also attaboy, sweet dreams all.
Kool,yes it has! The one’s i just posted belong to the FBI case!
AnneInTn said,in January 28th, 2010 at 12:46 am CathyJo63 said,in January 28th, 2010 at 12:44 am
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You were not directed this to me but right if she dont know she cant talk.imo
BINGO Ann!!
Nite Kool Look, sleep well my friend.
I had some new info on DB, well sort of…
brought over from previous thread.
http://www.news4jax.com/news/22346617/detail.html
“Now investigators are able to question five of the people who were closest to the girl, looking for any possible clues as to what happened to her.”
The 5? The five people closest to Haleigh? ANyone catch this???
AP per questions about Misty being in VA & GA:
Call #1: Cummings advised Det._ that she was coming from Virginia
http://download.gannett.edgesuite.net/wtlv/docs/012610_croslin4.pdf
Cummings stated that
she was traveling and would be in Brunswick, Georgia at 0223 hours. Cummings stated that “she” (Brock) does
not live where Cummings lives and that “she” (Brock) lives in Orlando.
If DB lives in Orlando, she may be renting. There are no property records in all the ones I have found for both DB & BB for Orlando. Anyone remember something significant happening just prior to June 19th? Something to do with Haleigh’s case? I’ll go look….Does DB match any sighting descriptions? There were 4 in her nearby area of NC…..
1)Knoxville TN
2)North Augusta SC
3) 2 GA sightings.
I too feel that TM isn’t the first time DB & MC met. Checking into it.
Strangly enough DB also owns property in San Diego. Wasn’t Haleigh sighted in CA too? Also dismissed as not being her?
As far as Art & TH is concerned, I don’t know what is real and what isn’t. So to that end I try not to exclude info just in case it is acurate. I still find it hard to make people say what a reporter wants them to say other then the phrasing of a question and isn’t it their jobs to try to get the most info they can. No matter who they are reporting on? How would AH twist WBG quotes? Why would he want to? What he reported on that incidence was exactly what WBG’s mom told the local newspaper reporter. (Just an example I thought of, not claiming proff either way, don’t have any….yet)
RATATAT said,in January 28th, 2010 at 12:48 am CathyJo-please do some research on T. Holmseth’s background. Don’t believe a word he reports. He takes people’s words and twists them to fit his agenda. The guy is a nutcase.
Sorry,wasn’t ignoring anyone,multitasking here,LoL SAVE WHAT I CAN B4 IT’S GONE,BUT FROM THE 2 DAYS I HAVE KNOWN HIM,I TAKE HIM AS A PERSON WHO DOESN’T GIVE A CRAP WHAT ANYBODY SAY’S….GRRRR forgot caps guys,sorry…
And I really can’t decide right now b/c i don’t have all the info but i do wonder where the heck he came from??
as to his trust worthiness,haven’t made up my mind yet,I have only read 2 articles,well heard 2 video’s of him…..LoL
iF I AM NOT MISTAKEN sTAUB’S BROUGHT HIM IN,AM I RIGHT OR WRONG?? GRRRR
I gotta stop multitaskin!
Jess,you sure did,you missed what I did till 2 day’s ago!!
All of the East coast sightings occurred within a approx 300 mile radius of DB’s very remote NC home…
The whole thing stinx!
I don’t know everything he does but the things I have seen are not anything he twist - they are just recordings of someone or emails someone sent. What I have seen he hasn’t even put his opinion on just playing the facts. I don’t see how that twists things for his agenda.
Maybe instead of trying to connect DB with Ron & co, we should be looking for an inside connection to Crystal & co…Just sayin….is it possible that DB could have been working this from the inside all along?
Is my DB info showing up to anyone but me?
CathyJo, you seem to be open and just seeking the truth, just keep looking for yourself and I think you will continue to find more and more truth.
Well I’ve looked at some news site and no where have I found the US’s name reported. Just here and on the report it didn’t even have a first name listed. So my thinking is that had to be someone local that knows JL.
Anyone remember when the CA sighting was?
Holly’s,Really??
Treece,right!! I think he doesn’t care who goes down,or say’s what he want’s as long as he’s truthful and help’s find Haleigh so he doesn’t have to twist thing’s!! from what i HAVE seen so far!
well,you do know cs was uhhhhh well uhh more than friend’s with KP ’s uhhhh more than friend!
CathyJo63 said,in January 28th, 2010 at 1:21 am iF I AM NOT MISTAKEN sTAUB’S BROUGHT HIM IN,AM I RIGHT OR WRONG?? GRRRR
I gotta stop multitaskin!
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Your right!
treece said,in January 28th, 2010 at 1:25 am CathyJo, you seem to be open and just seeking the truth, just keep looking for yourself and I think you will continue to find more and more truth.
TY Treece for noticing,mean’s alot to me!
and that is all i want! My mind has changed drastically in the last 2 day’s and I never thought it possible,but myusband didn’t get justice and never will by thing’s le covered here…..and now i see it happening to a little girl whose daddy loves her and is in jail for what people no doubt covered and pl;aced on him! I bet his heart is ripping!!
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Richlands+NC&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=25.288195,55.019531&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Richlands,+Mitchell,+North+Carolina&ll=34.795762,-82.22168&spn=3.265691,6.877441&t=h&z=7
Here’s a google map with Richlands NC plotted. If you look closely at the left will be Knoxville, almost theleft edge, GA border is not far away, and of course SC sighting locations nearby as well.
I thought that the CA sighting happened in San Diego and DB & hubby own or owned property in that very city.
There’s more…
HollysGmom said,in January 28th, 2010 at 1:26 am Anyone remember when the CA sighting was?
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CA meaning what? I got to sleep soon.
HollysGmom said,in January 28th, 2010 at 1:23 am Maybe instead of trying to connect DB with Ron & co, we should be looking for an inside connection to Crystal & co…Just sayin….is it possible that DB could have been working this from the inside all along?
Holly’s,also the day that cs had the seizure was when they were caught! according to these docs.Thats why her and her bf split!
But i’m thinking who else would be able to??
and btw it was also the day that cs and her sister said a man in black was stalking them at the HB center and cs had an axe for protection and the ax was with her when the emt showed up and she was on the floor bleeding…..??
CathyJo63 said,in January 28th, 2010 at 1:44 am and btw it was also the day that cs and her sister said a man in black was stalking them at the HB center and cs had an axe for protection and the ax was with her when the emt showed up and she was on the floor bleeding…..??
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I remember this but dont know what your question is?
sorry holly’s,I can get it,sorry not ignoring any of yas!! If u do go to bed Ann,goodnight’
and ty,I thought cobra did!!
Quote taken from a website with story about Airport & Today’s show where DB was with Misty.
http://niecey456.wordpress.com/2009/10/08/what-does-misty-have-to-say-about-all-the-latest-who-is-donna-brock/
“I’m also having a big problem with the fact that Donna searched for TES on 3 different cases, 2 of them being Haleigh Cummings and Caylee Anthony. I’m not casting shadows on TES here, because searchers are volunteers, and this could be something beyond their knowledge completely, but I wonder what this woman’s interests in these cases are that they lead her to dress Misty up, drive her around and fly off with her to interviews. I find it very eerie that this woman was involved in searching on both cases.”
Ooohhh boy! I had wondered if DB had been involved in Caylee’s searches. That’s how I found this article/blog. Baez is laughing his bootie off right about now….
“Donna Brock, allegedly made obscene gestures at a woman while driving on Interstate 4 in Lake Mary, Florida.”
http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2009/10/donna-brock.html
I wonder if the pic was taken prior to this date. If so then it is in DB’s habit to fling a bird or two. If pic wa taken after it may have been a joke in reference to this “set-up” incident.
Interestingly, a woman named Donna Brock has assisted Texas EquuSearch [TES] during searches for Haleigh, Caylee Anthony and Kelly Currin Morris. When asked whether the Brock who was arrested with Cummings is a member of TES, a source within the organization said that they believed they were one in the same.
A spokesperson for the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office declined to comment on the incident, other than to say Brock is not affiliated with their department.
(from same link as above)
Holly’s,heres one with c/s dad saying he won’t go to jail,they can’t mess with him in ky!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9HS1Pa-6Ak
LoL Ann,I’m sorry,i meant that to go to Holly’s!
CathyJo63 said,in January 28th, 2010 at 1:34 am well,you do know cs was uhhhhh well uhh more than friend’s with KP ’s uhhhh more than friend!
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No explain?
Goodnight everyone!
CathyJo;
Huh? LOL.
Anne:
I think she means about KP & Crystal both being involved with a certain Reagan, J.
katfish said,in January 28th, 2010 at 1:53 am Goodnight everyone!
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kat, nite.
Cathyjo,
Puke!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Several posts with links are in moderation….they should come through soon….I hope….
1 google map link for Richlands & surrounding area
1 a TJ hart link talks about Donna & PCSO refutes that she is working for them (after road rage incident)
more….
HollysGmom said,in January 28th, 2010 at 1:54 am Anne:
I think she means about KP & Crystal both being involved with a certain Reagan, J.
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ok i thought it meant something else
Cathy, i was not puking at you….LOL
Nite friends. got to get off here.
From Donna Brock’s myspace….
Female
100 years old
United States
Last Login: 1/27/2010
Last login yesterday? WOuld she be able to do so from jail? I know some convicts are able to use interent (Lester Hobbs was one), butwould she have access already? Maybe or maybe her hubby turned it to private….strange though….
Oh I forgot this part….
Mood: enlightened
WHat??? What does this mean???
Holly’s it was JR and KP !
cs was also extra nice to him too!
He’s 26!
He wasn’t set up,has not denied he sold drugs and the incident reports are clear enough on him selling three times with video tape.LE or Tim Miller did not set any of them up,cause anyone to sell drugs or abduct HaLeigh.RC is not a victim,Tim and LE are not out to get him,this is ridiculous.Drug dealers are not victims,they sell drugs that kill children,they should be taken off the streets.They deserve to be in a jail cell,better that than children in a casket. Drugs are even in the middle schools in Putnam for God’s sakes,get real.
Donna’s myspace is private,but her husband and four of her kids are on myspace.Maybe one of them went on to delete all the photo albums she had of all the children and grandchildren we saw when it was public.
Per Levi Page’s FB
“Add as Friend Levi Page
Question for any lawyer facebook friends: A nebbia hearing is used to determine whether the money a defendants puts up for bond came from a legit?”
This I found through DB’s FB account/friends
are u serious?? If that’s correct then she’s not a prisoner??
Ann,
It’s true according to these hidden docs from fbi!
LoL Ann,i knew whatcha meant!!!!! but it’ll make you want to!!
nd this interesting since so many use Polly Klaas’ case as a reference for Haleigh’s abduction:
Per Mark Klaas’ FB
“Marc Klaas Has babysitter/girlfriend/step mom Misty Croslyn-Cummings been telling the truth all along. Is her tiny drug addled braid so polluted that the ‘dream state’ vision she had on the night that Haleigh Cummings disappeared actually happened? Will a potential 25-year detox clear her memory? Find out tonight…on Nancy Grace!!!8 hours ago”
I guess we know where Mr Klaas stands on this…
more knowledge!!!!! it mean’s! And happy!
CathyJo63 said,in January 28th, 2010 at 2:08 am Ann,
It’s true according to these hidden docs from fbi
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Yep
Per Misty’s FB (through DB’s link)
“My name is Misty and I am 18, I live in Satsuma Fla .
Most people talk alot of crap about me and they dont even know me.. they all think they know what is going on and dont even have a clue… I dont know why people Judge… All the ones that have said bad stuff about me will all see …..I am telling the truth and I dont have nothing to hide and i am not the key to anything.. I think people need to get off of me and do their job and just find HaLeigh …. All we want is for people to help look for HaLeigh… she needs to come home to us ……….She Needs us and We Need her….Please help us Find HaLeigh…. ”
Dated Jan 04, 2010
Meanwhile, I’ll continue to sell dangerous narcotics to prove my innocence. lol
The truth will come out slowly, just have to set back and wait.
WHich FBI hidden docs? What am I missing?
Frame Gregory Lewis Page and Misty Croslin
07/03/09 Plans to Frame Black Man
June 1, 2009 Attorney General Complaint Against Kim Picazio
Also on MC’s FB
Relationship Status:In a Relationship
Anniversary:September 18, 2008
This is her and Ron’s original dating date. She didn’t use the marriage date….did she think anyone was fooled? She hadn’t been dating/living with anyone but Ron (exception WBG) since 2008…
you haven’t see those,OMG GIRL! SEC
Ok…I’m a little freaked out right now!!! Misty is friends with “Law Enforcement” on FB, they have four friends….one of which is my local police depatrment….:0 What in the heck is going on!!! I’m psyched and scared at the same time…What does this mean??? Why is someone in my local PD in contact with this person who is FB friend’s with Misty Cummings…I’m gonna freak out any minute now!
Oh…oohhh I gotta get offline…I just watched as the link I visited for Crestview PD DISAPPEARED IN FRONT OF MY EYES TO BE REPLACED WITH ANOTHER NAME….and I haven’t even posted to you guys yet…..
How dare they insult that special day… My boy’s B-Day
you won’t believe whats been covered up!
Ok guys…my info has been disappearing…this thing just happened…I am in way deep on this….keep eyes out for me please.. All I wanted to d owas help Haleigh….
HollysGmom said,in January 28th, 2010 at 2:25 am
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Holly this last comment you made is this you talking or someone else? Did you copy this from somewhere?
what??????
cent…it is also my B-day…I have two, or rather I take two to make up for the fact that my father raised me with 9/18 as Bday and my birth certificate says 9/17. So now I take both….I’m so freaked right now!
Holly and Cathy this dont need to be talked about here, understand?
what the devis is going on,now im scared for her!!!!!!!!
on facebook?? Now how do i leave knowing she’s tore up and unsafe maybe!!!
Holly,heckfire,call somebody you know and atleas them know incase
This is actually happening..People have been asking about my posts that have gone missing. I was checking out Misty’s FB when I saw that someone named “LawEnforcement” was her friend. I clicked on their page & found Crsetview PD so I clicked to see if Tenessee or Kentucky (both have Crestviews) but no, it’s my own home town, very small and while I was posting to you guys the name, phone number, address and ALL changed in it’s place was a different FB account. I’m freaking out!!! The officer I forwarded my sighting update did say and I quote “Everything is being tracked” ohh what have I gotten into? I should probably just shut up but I’m scared now.
Holly U here??
i do,im scared for her tho
Gotch AnneInTn
moving to closed forum…I will leave further info and try to back it up….CathyJo…Please try to screen cap some stuff for me…just in case. I don’t have anyone I can trust, as in high up….
I’m still here…shaking and about to cry….I hope it’s good news….going to FF1…
HollysGmom said,in January 28th, 2010 at 2:34 am
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You pmed me earlier my mistake but it was me…go to pm with me
lock the forum
i can’t find Misty’s facebook
I’ve just had my site crash…pary for me & my family…
also can’t find LawEnforcement’s facebook either. i found one for crestview police dpt in crestview, fl but i am not going through 1200 names to look for misty..
http://www.facebook.com/people/Donna-Brock/100000371900410#/profile.php?id=100000618693851
She’s in DB’s friend list….Ok site’s back working….wierd….The Law Enforcement person has 104 friends…crestview RD is in that list.
nevermind, found it.:)
I find it hard to believe that Putnam LE did as “Cobra” claims they did to the Grandma. One would think that is when the interview would end, who would stay for that, seems out outlandish to me. I don’t like their using media for a public mutiny and putting their spin on things or making deals with men guilty of domestic violence. I don’t like the idea of a drug dealer once on the payroll that makes me very nervous. I know when a cop is doing stuff like that others know too and usually for a long time. Often times children are in the homes of drug dealers and aware of the cops involvement, that silences the kids…very un-cool. Don’t want to make up things or fire any one innocent either very tricky situation.I find Cobra’s story just to far out there.
JMHO
God Bless Haleigh and all her families
CathyJo63? Where did you go?
Hi Katfish, my 12:34 am post shows the link, hope you’re able to see it:
http://download.gannett.edgesuite.net/wtlv/docs/012610_croslin4.pdf
What is up with “trashing” Tim Miller??
Has nobody ever used poor judgement in their lives that come to this blog?? If so, I would like to meet you.
I watched NG last night. NOT because I like her,but I wanted to hear Ron’s jail interview.
Was it me, or was Nancy kissing Azz last night?? The day before her deposition on Thursday?
gotta look at this in a positive light.
No matter what people want to say about Tim Miller, it looks as though he has succeeded in getting some of the truth out about Ron & Misty - and getting some progress made in this case.
He sent Donna Brock in to try to get some truth, and what looked like a backfire on him actually has put the case in another place: Ron and Misty in jail (for a long time)with some options now by LE to try to get at the truth.
Options now since DB was sent in. No options before DB was sent in.
Screw DB. And say what you want about TM, but when it comes down to it,he is on the side of right.
Maybe he needs to be a bit more selective about who he surrounds himself with? And I’m sure he has learned his lesson about getting too involved in a case.
But in this case, what has appeared to be a big faux pas on his part has, in actuality, changed the face of this case and given some hope that answers will come.
all imo, but I’ve been around a long time and I know that Tim is much more than what people have seen (and what’s been intimated about him) since Caylee and Haleigh’s disappearances.
and re: NG’s depo - nothing there to see, folks.
She was not the cause of Melinda Duckett’s suicide, and as much as Melinda’s family would like a big payday when only two members had even MET Trenton and her own family had disowned her, they will not see it, imo.
Another arrest in Palatka:
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=151257&catid=3
kh
Screw DB. And say what you want about TM, but when it comes down to it,he is on the side of right.
THANK YOU!!!!
As far as NG goes…I dispise her role on TV and wish something would happen so her show would cancel. Is she to blame for this suicide?? Probably not. However she has a wicked tongue, and it needs to be shut up.
I would think Misty would have broke by now too, being so young and not wanting to stay in jail. I couldn’t see her covering up for Ron this long unless she is involved in it directly too, or is the guilty one. I just wonder what they think Misty is keeping from them? If she was not there at the home then surely by now she would say so because she couldn’t get charged with murder right? If this really was a covered up accident they would tell that because it wasn’t something intentional I would think. So then the drug od story could make sense but then that would mean more people should be witness to this like Nay Nay and the others.
If this crew is familiar with the law (and I am sure they are) then they would expect LE to do this type of questioning/pressure and realize LE would try to do anything/say anything to get them to tell the truth. You see this on tv so to me it isn’t hard to figure out that would be coming. So, maybe they are just holding out for as long as they can until LE give up, and I hope they don’t. If anything they have them in jail for the drugs in the meantime. jmo
Your right. I don’t beleive Misty “willingly” knows what happened. However, she has admitted that she had a dream that night, and 4 men were in the house. Was that a dream?? Or halucination from her drug intake??
Will we ever know??
If so, probably not from her.
And Ron doesn’t know anything.
Well Dusty Rose, then we’ll have to say advocate Rebecca Thomas is also lying concerning the LE “Tore her Ass up” audio taped recording Timothy Holsmeth has posted on his site in yet two different interviews, one with Cobra, other one with Rebecca. Rebecca was on line with TN to advocate and give her a stronger voice calling LE when the Cummings couldn’t and weren’t getting any information whatsoever from putnam LE.
She claims she confronted this officer on the phone twice, and told him it was inappropriate and wanted to know why he was treating a missing childs Grandmother, a victim in this way. I tend to believe Rebecca, Cobra, not so much, but it’s corroborating and they both sound believable. Not to mention we know for a fact we’ve seen how this family has been treated. IMO, I’ve always noticed before this ever came out how very timid, scared and extremely quiet and careful TN is concerning LE and speaking of them and any thing pertaining to them. I can see the fear in her eyes.
Holly’s, you need to have me, and a few others here on personal contact info at all times that you can trust. I got credentials, hehehehe anytime you wanna contact me pm through the forum here, we can talk and I can assure you of myself. Be careful. Did everything get straigtened out from last night concerning missing links, posts, etc….?
I’m still unclear about the facebook accts, fbi documents and their connections with LE and possible links within each other. Can someone clear up the mud for me here on in pm on the forum please? I do understand the part about Misty, Donna and supposedly some LE are buds/friends on their facebook accts. which is sort of weird, but not really this day and time. Though I can honestly believe their acct.s are being tracked coming and going by LE as they enter and visit their acct.s, even the visitors coming and going. Help!!! Clarifications please!!
If there were 4 men that entered the home then this wouldn’t be a SO abduction,sounds more like someone that knew them, came to get their due and took Haleigh for ransom. I would think Ron would have told the LE if he had a debt unpaid/or ripped someone off,sold some bad stuff/ ratted someone out not caring because he would want his daughter back no matter what.If that were true, they could have a good idea who took Haleigh. If someone did take Haleigh for that reason then they were dealing with big timers and bigger money imo.
On the other hand, how could you be so asleep/drugged you couldn’t hear 4 people in your home? I would def. hear that. At least I think I would.
Kool Look, there are two people using that screen name here, right? Your posts sound different from each other. I don’t know either one of you anyway, but just wondering….
I am not cutting Ron slack, but let’s remember, Misty had a life of her own. She proved it the weekend before Haleigh went missing. So if there were 4 men in the home, there is a good chance Ron wouldn’t know who they are.
Again…she states she dreamt it. Did she??
We may never know.
Do I beleive someone who has been partying for 3 days straight could sleep so heavy as to not hear people around you. YES! Absolutely!
lol, true, I have recalled times where I was such a deep sleeper that I would dream something that seemed so real but couldn’t possibly have happened due to circumstances. I also had my days when I was younger where I partied and yes, I do remember being passed out and not waking up to normal situations.
In that case, Misty may have been the one to do a bad deal or the other. It is very likely LE has more info. than we are able to know and making the situation look like something it isn’t to protect certain people and catch the real kidnappers.
Good points Michelle, protectkidz and boldone. I’m keeping my mind open to the fact about the probably dream/hallucination drug induced tired early morn hours with Misty snugged out in bed with Jr. sleeping like a log.
But, if there were 1,2,3 or even 4 men/guys/dudes/criminals/known persons inside that home that night, someone had to leave a trace of forensic somewhere somehow. Again, here I go. LE botched this investigation from get jump street. They never should have drove up so close to the property, especially the home as to identify un-explained strange tire impressions, footprints, trash, cig butts, anything of forensic value. Right from jump street, they destroyed the crime scene.
1. Drove up too close to crime scene with their vehicles and trampled all over possible outside forensic evidence.
2. Didn’t go through or take the garbage, DUH!!!!! need I say more on this?
3. Didn’t remove the outside/interior doors til weeks later. DUH!!!!
4. Removed Haleigh’s bed linings and hung outside on the porch deck rail to be contaminated without protection immediately.
5. Obviously didn’t check the washer/dryer as Misty herself found the pink shirt supposedly Haleigh went to bed wearing that very night and turned it into LE herself. DUH AGAIN!!!
6. Did not immediately drug test/hair follicules Misty, Ron and Jr. This is a Biggie Folks!!! That’s basic Crime scene investigation 101
7.Didn’t check nearest dumpsters til over two weeks later that the scent dogs scented on Haleigh’s scent, jumping inside dumpster trampling and possibly ruining any forensic evidence. Not to mention done at night, heck it had already been weeks, why not cordone it off with police surveillance til morn?
8. Not releasing cadaver and scent dogs til hours later upon arrival at the scene of the crime.
9. Not immediately dispatching LE cruisers to Bakers County to all of Haleigh’s immediately Family and their properties to waken/notify/search and question this side of the family pronto, just like they did Misty and Ron taking with them their clothing from that day and bed clothes that night like done with Ron and Misty. LE should have escorted Crystal, Chad, Marie, her current hubby and Maryt Sheffield and wife back to crime scene immediately then onto the police station for further questioning and lie detectors tests just like Misty and Ron. Never happened to this day. Shame shame!!
10. Not taking into police custody immediately all cell phone records for the entire sheffield family, including the Cummings and Croslins, which they also neglected investigating for months after the crime, DUH!!
11. All financial records, receipts, checks, statements, bank accounts, cell phones and records along with all computers from both sides of this family should have been confiscated into police custody immediately, it was not done!
12. Proof LE did not follow up on the S.C., Georgia, Tennessee sighting tips called in along with no return phone calls ever back to the tipsters relaying the tip information. Sworn statement by one of the tipsters that Peggy Cone over the phone taking down the sighting tip was trying to change descriptions and details over the phone, arguing with tipster informant. Geez! This tipster signed a sworn affidavit, along with TH’s site has posted tape recording message left by this tipster to the PCSO message recorder confronting LE as to them never contacting her back. That’s pretty strong, to sign an affidavit, and confront LE head on with reasonable inquiries as to the information they were trying to provide and onto giving it to an investigative reporter many states away from the crime showing they felt no faith in LE in that area to reasonably handle their tip.
13. I could go on and on, but we now know without a doubt there was a “fake” search done down in San Mateo county held by the Sheffield/Regan/and a few citizens of that county along with an un-biased search dog handler informing the public and LE of this ill fated fake search to no avail. Who also has confronted LE with reasonable inquiries concerning their hands on personal tip information that has been ignored to this day. This person was shut down and shut up by LE, forums, attornies, and the participants. On tape TH’s site has Bowling admitting on tape that whoever would conduct such a fake search lol lol lol, laff laff laff while he talked on the recorded tape, that they would have an “agenda” to be doing such a thing.
This my friends is the tip of the iceberg
m2c♥ said,in January 28th, 2010 at 9:36 am Kool Look, there are two people using that screen name here, right? Your posts sound different from each other. I don’t know either one of you anyway, but just wondering….
Yes my m2cheart, all the posts here are mine, unless I missed one and someone is using my name. Is there a particular one that stands out? What time? Yeah, I’ve sort of came out the hatch strong last night and this morning, more so than I normally do and my posts are more opinionated than I sound usually. If I offended you, I apologize from the bottom of my heart. That apology is for everyone, if I did something hurtful to someone’s feelings, forgive me and I’ll stop if you explain what I did. No problem.
I’m just aggravated at this whole case, I’ll settle down, don’t want to scare or push anyone away from me, I’m still sweet ole me, hehehe
michelle, you could be so right too in your theory. everyone’s theories are good, and could be true before we learn everything and find out what truly has happened and been going on behind the scenes. My post earlier about the things I believe LE should have done better, I do feel that way. But I also believe most of the LE are trying to find Haleigh and do a good job. Don’t mean to sound too critically harsh on anyone.
As far as we know, this entire drug bust could be a ruse to flush out the real guilty ones. I certainly want to praise LE at anytime I’m able too, so I am keeping an open mind in this case. Closing your mind to possibilities would be where we as the public would go wrong entirely in keeping up with Haleigh’s case.
Hi, Kool Look! No you didn’t offend me at all. I was just wondering if there are two people using that screen name on BNN since the writing seemed so different. If I remember where I saw comments by what I thought was the “other” Kool Look here I’ll let you know.
Also, I saw a post on another site where the Kool Look I was first familiar with (I think) posted that someone had used that name to post on another site(not this one) and made them look bad (like it was done on purpose.
So it seems that some Kool Look out there does seem to have someone else using that name. I just didn’t know if both Kool Looks are here now.
Not to make light of the situation or anything - but everytime I read posts about LE (and I’m sure they are doing more than most think) I invision Andy Griffith(sp?) Goes Gangster. Going thru my head is something like “Hey Andy, hold my beer while I look for evveedence.”
Donna is a real piece of work. One thing I can say about her, she doesn’t let “class” get into her way. I say the least attention she gets, the better. No wonder she and Misty got along so good. They are true soul mates.
m2cheart, yes someone registered as Kool Look a few weeks ago under my hat nic at in sessions and over a year ago at another forum named mmac, but I’ve handled that impersonation by outing out the fact it was an imposter. I contacted coldwater at in sessions and informed her that it’s not me, and told others around the net this is going on.
Thanks for bringing it to my attention. I don’t post at in sessions. Just here, ws, occassionally slightly at art harris forum (really like some of the sweet members there only) is why I go there, and of course at radionewz, I adore radio and her style forum she has at her site. check it out sometime, pretty neat. And I started listening to the live blog talk radio shows on sunday with simon and Jan, and of course good ole aggravating Levi, hehehehe hope he doesn’t read this last part. Kidding, he’s doing a great job getting the new info out to us, so I really appreciate the Barretts and Levi, plus TJ for really trying hard.
Boldone3:
Nancy Grace was playing up to Ronald, again, to get an interview from jail with him. She said a few nights ago that the whole Satsuma bunch made her sick to her stomach, everyone of them. I think she saw thru him all this time, but she wanted him to come on her show, so she would say something nice, every now and then.
Update:
http://www.palatkadailynews.com/articles/2010/01/28/news/news01.txt
Palatka Daily News Palatka, Fl 1-28-10
“Cops detail drug deals by Croslin, Cummings”
a perfect solution to the NG issue:
don’t watch her!
I haven’t watched her for years, she rarely has any new info, she often makes mistakes, and I feel that she is a huge exploiter of the most vulnerable.
If there is something that happens on her show that I do want to review, I pull up the transcript. It’s much less vomit-inducing.
Re: the “new drug arrest” in the Palatka Daily News, that is such a funny story! Doesn’t it say that the guy has no connection to Ron, Misty & Haleigh? Why write the story? There are CONSTANTLY drug arrests there that are not connected - like every hour they are bringing in some loser. Weird.
Ron and Misty both have ways of throwing people off in this investigation. Ronald goes into this crazy uncontrollable intimidating act, ranting that he is going to kill whoever took her. They can’t get much out of him, because he just starts all of that crazy ranting. They couldn’t get anything out of him, according to the police report, the night Haleigh went missing. He was too wild.
Misty says she can’t remember, she was asleep, or gives little details, like the rose, to throw people off. She was most likely on that place at one time and saw the rose. She makes people think she is giving out some hint to get the off of her and onto a bunnytrail. She is not smart, but she is shrewd, in a way.
When she was asked the question about having a dream, she went off on that bunnytrail. I don’t believe she had a dream, at all, or she would have mentioned it sooner.
Thanks, Kool Look! I think you’re Kool Look #1 to me - meaning the first I “met” here. Good to see you again and thank you for clarifying for me!
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About NG: I don’t watch her much either but when people were complaining that she treated Ron so nicely I wondered if it had anything to do with the law suit brought against her by Trenton Duckett’s mom’s family? In that, she might have (a) grown a conscience or (2) gone to “courtesy classes” or (3) been faking being nice to someone in order to look like she’s nice to the parents of child victims. Just a thought.
I think it’s SO funny that NG does not want that law suit trial to be recorded and aired!!
LOL! What is the old saying, “Do unto others as you would have others do unto you?”
“If you can dish it out, Nancy, you should be prepared to take the same treatment!”
My view of Ron’s rant on the jail phone call about willing to face the death penalty if he finds who took Haleigh and murders the person or persons responsible is as follows: It is very easy to say such things if he or someone he is protecting are responsible for the child’s disappearance or death.Further, who on earth would make such statements on a prison phone call except for a person attempting to throw a shade over the truth. And whoever stated that they were appalled by Nancy Grace saying she has a soft spot for Ron, I too agree that that was shocking.
What if all the Haleigh sightings were fakes? The first ones that were on the news, I did suspect were fakes.
What I want to know is this: Whats with this overaged bimbo in the photo above? I mean really…what a freak show! Doesn’t she care about the fact that her grandchildren may view this picture and uh…well no Iguess she doesn’t care.
Misty does a lot of metaphor speaking. This has has caused her statements to be open to interpretation causing different people to have have different perspectives, that causing an appearance of different stories. I picked up on it numerous times, in the interview with that “lie detector” specialist. She explains the kids were watching movies she explains which ones they were watching then she ads which other movies they also like to watch that causes confusion. She explains she got up to go to the bath room and then seen a light on. Because the light that was in the kitchen which is located near the bath room furthest away the interpretation is that she was going to the bath room furthest away, who knows which bath room she intended to go to. She explained Haleigh was next to her, which I could see answering that that way given the circumstances a child on a bed next to her. However when a person is under a microscope the explanations have to be more precise that is what lawyers are for, so statements like that are made in a context that leaves no room for interpretation.
God Bless Haleigh and all her families
Was there a reported sighting of Haleigh in San Diego, CA?
Donna and Tim’s wife are involved with Webslueth dot com site. My membership oath does not allow me to share the nick names. Do more research there it is a gold mine of information about Donna’s goals and how the bills are being paid.
I also find it unfair to Haleigh and her right to Justice for Ronald & media to publicly state his threat to kill the person/persons involved. That is a double edge sword it can have adverse effects, like silencing a person/persons who has information. Wisdom: Look before you leap.
Plz tell me you are not gullible enough to buy into TH’s bullstit.
Come on. Use your DISCERNMENT for christ’s sake.
Some people are so dumb. I can’t even believe it.
CathyJo63 said, in January 28th, 2010 at 1:50 am
Holly’s,heres one with c/s dad saying he won’t go to jail,they can’t mess with him in ky!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9HS1Pa-6Ak
BB12-Chris: Wasn’t it a moderator or site owner or someone at WS who pushed their way into this investigation with disastrous results? Have I got the correct website in mind?
Yes,m2c, that was topgunner. She was mod of the lie/rumor thread and would talk to cobra and Kim and take info that was gathered from one of the private social groups and give it to another social group that Kim Picazio was a member of. Nice huh?
After last nights show, Nancy Grace confirmed to me her ignorance. How can she sit there and say for a fact that withdrawal from these drugs isn’t deadly? Is she a doctor now too?, and as for her to feel pity for Ronald Cummings,.. well Now I know why she isn’t a prosecutor anymore. She needs to go home and take care of her babies and leave the tv court business to Judge Judy. I was embarrassed for her.
Thank you, Vaq! I wouldn’t touch it (as in “bother to read” it) with a ten foot pole.
But that’s just me.
To methinks (12:08 p.m.):
I agree with you.
Apparently, Donna Brock has no class. I certainly would not want a picture of myself shooting someone the bird.
In my opinion, it does not say much for the kind of person Donna is!
The lady behind Donna and a few of the men are doing the same thing. I wonder how long the folks in that picture were TES volunteers. My assumption is they are from Florida. Hard to believe adults would be in that type of picture!
I talked to a friend of mine who has been a TES Texas volunteer for many years. Our conversation was on a personal level and not an official level. It was just his personal opinion. He thought the picture was disgusting.
He said the Texas TES volunteers have a strong dedication to the search and/or rescue of missing persons and Donna Brock’s picture certainly is not representative of the Texas volunteers. I am from Texas, near the Houston area, and I certainly agree with him.
I understand why TES had to cut her loose. She certainly does not represent Florida well! What an embarrassment! I feel sorry for all of the people being in a picture with Donna and another lady and men shooting the bird! Disgusting! Tasteless! No class!
BB12 chris and Vaq, I know of the moderator Topgunner situation at ws. But this topgunner isn’t Tim’s wife, right? I must be mis-understanding, as I’ve seen TG’s real name mentioned in the court doc dumps filed against Kim Picazio by Crystal and Co.’s side. So their none related to the best of my knowledge.
BB12, I appreciate your honor and respect for other forums, I too am a member and guard highly all members, rules and forum etiquette for ws, here at BNN and anyother site I post at. The members are what makes these places so great to participate at.
Though I believe what you say, not questioning the validity, and it’s reasonable to believe Donna and Tim’s wife would be posting at websleuths as it’s a public crime forum for victims and certainly nothing wrong with being members there. I would like to know by way of a hint or clue. So we can sleuth as you say. It’s not enough info. given in your post to figure out, there’s thousands of posts.
All forums have rules and links, etc… they don’t allow to be mentioned,we must honor that. But I believe it’s ok to give hints like if you were referring to me as one of these people posting over there, You could post something like KL, or Look for Kool posts, or Kool Books, something like that, you get the picture I’m meaning. I hope, lol I don’t consider it outing someone, especially when you aren’t giving out any personal real life information, only user hat nic names chosen to write and post under in a public forum, so I don’t think that’s disrespectful. Thanks for any sleuthing hints, as I would be interested in reading them.
@CathyJo63
it wasnt CS. It was only KP. Damn Cobra put that out there just to get a rise out of KP. But he was really only with KP. I heard it caused lots a problems w/her rich hubby. People suspect he’s on twitter as Rocketman. They were in luuuuv. My sister’s a local in Putnam and works at a flower shop. He got her flowers 2 times and left a fake name. You should have seen what he wrote on that card. They were serious. That wasn’t no affair, they were in luuuuuv. KP almost left her hubby for that guy so I hear. Idiot. Leave a rich man for a broke kid. Well, guess she wasn’t happy. How the hell do I know.
http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Haleigh%20Cummings/jeremiah1.jpg
I think it’s very difficult for any group (from a church’s altar guild or choir to ones like TES) that has to depend on volunteers.
Even with background checks, they don’t always convey a person’s true character or personality.
Karon Cox-11:18
Of course NG wants an interview with him.!!
So you don’t think she was going easy on him at all because of her depostion today?? Rumor has it she isn’t happy about having to give it today.
The man behind Donna with the cap and beard shooting the bird almost looks like Hank Croslin Sr. to me. At least, from a couple pics I’ve seen of him around on the net. If I’m not mistaken, didn’t he and Hank Jr. help search at one point early on I believe?
Wonder what was going on this day in October, if it’s the true date on the pic? I wish Simon would zoom in on that man, why do these two men in the back have these sour feelings to display like Donna does? Would love to know, where did the pic come from?
Update: from WFTV, Orlando, Fl
http://www.wftv.com/news/22365606/detail.html
WFTV Orlando, Fl
1-28-10 Updated: 12:54 p.m. EST
“Haleigh Cummings’ Dad Interviewed In Jail”
Article & Video
Michelle 9:35
True, how could 4 men not leave DNA behind. However, we are talking about LE from Puntum county. Do you think they are bright enough to know what to look for?? I don’t.
As far as a deep sleep going, YES I can see her so out of it she had a fuzzy memory of that night. She partied for 72 hours before she went to bed. She was not only tired, but she was full of pills.
Kool Look, I understand the curiosity/interest. I’m sure you’ll keep in mind that we don’t know who “BB12-Chris” is or their reason for posting this “info” which seems to betray a trust (which is what WS is already so famous for doing) so any additional info (to me) would be questionable, too. JMO!
Whoever posted the “Andy Griffith” comment, I have to agree. I thought of that scenerio myself.
As far as NG, it kills me to give her ratings. However, I don’t get to the blog often, and I want an update. It is NOT that I like her. And I want to know how they screen them calls?? Because every person who calls, LOVES Nancy and the “twins”.
One of her panelist last night made a good point. Misty was all hysterical when her purse was stolen and she called 911. But when Haleigh went missing, she was calm. Almost sedated like.
NG REALLY wants Misty to be the bad one, leading poor Ron around by the nose!
m2c,
I do a tremendous amount of volunteer work. It is a dedication of a person’s personal time and the person bears his or her own expenses. The gratification is giving of one’s self and contributing to a worthy cause.
I was very involved with fund raisers for injured deputies with the Harris County Sheriff’s Dept. for many years (until I moved from Harris County, Tx). We, as a group, were so fortunate to have folks volunteer that were honest, hard working and dedicated to the cause.
Every penny raised went to the injured deputy. The biggest effort I was involved in was for a deputy that was shot in the head. His medical expenses far exceeded the insurance limits.
A major Houston radio station got involved and raised several hundred thousand in a matter of hours via on air pledges during the day. That night we hosted a major fundraiser at a very nice club who donated the use of their club for the effort. I can honestly say Houston, as large as it is, does respond to the needs of injured deputies.
My current volunteer efforts include abused children, battered women, Relay for Life, Citizens on Patrol and Law Enforcement Fund Raisers.
Jan,
It took a very long time for my 1:49 p.m. to post. I do not understand why it posted twice.
Please delete one of them. Thank you, Jan.
BOLDONE3 said,in January 28th, 2010 at 1:37 pm Michelle 9:35
True, how could 4 men not leave DNA behind.
There may have been multiple men in the home that night - 2, 3, or 4 - that Misty has a vague recollection of seeing in a drugged stupor. If they were people that had been in the home before, such as male relatives or friends of Misty’s, then their DNA would already have been there.
The drugged stupor doesnt work well when you take into account that she went to bed at 10 and woke after only 5 hours at 3 oclock. If she was drugged she would be out a good 8 hrs. or more. And she slept(she says) some on Sunday night and then napped til they had to go get haleigh off the bus. Ron evidently slept because he made it the whole night at work. If she was that tired why wash sheets and clean? Just go to bed at 8 when Haleigh did. This is why I dont believe she was ever in bed at all. But thats just my opinion.
Justice! My hat is off to you and all those who helped in such a worthy cause. That’s why “volunteers” like DB appears to be make me so upset. They give the whole group they belong to a bad name. And we all know there are a LOT of terrific people in TES who have given a great deal of themselves (as you did). And now they and their organization are smeared by the same muddy brush thanks to DB.
(Maybe I’ll decide that stands for “dirt bag!” LOL!)
I just assumed you knew who I was by my nickname. I am a blogger on myspace. Most of the posters on this site have been to my blogs. I wrote the Casey A. blogs. I do not write on the HaLeigh Case, however, I do follow it. Thank you for the informative blogs and friendship. Long time reader new at posting.
mc2heart, thanks Darlin, your post is why I like it here. You guys keep me on the straight when I tend to veer off, as I admit I can be too trusting. I’m not a conniver, so I don’t think like some do to go around posting stuff to possibly stir up trouble for others, though I know we’re not accussing BB12 of doing this at all. Being cautious and careful til we get to know our posters is reasonable and understandable. WE must trust to a point, but be wise. Thanks again, that’s why I’m here, I feel protected, LOL
I also wanted to say I wouldn’t want anyone outed, nor be a part of harming someone even on the net, and I want to respect all the forums I participate at.
Justice, thanks so much for that beautiful story post at 1:49 pm, it Blessed my heart to learn of such kindness. Keep up that good job honey, your rewards shall be great here and in Heaven’s Paradise. I feel like sunshine entered my heart.
Yes Jason!
It would be phenomenal if they could be sent to AZ to do time.They’d be babbling brooks of info if they had to do some time there.Especially Misty ..chain gang in 120 degrees out in “tent city” eating green bologna sandwiches would serve her well I think.Right now they all have air conditioning and normal food,nothing to complain about.
Shit,send Casey there too!
( I grew up in AZ and know Arpaio is tough man who doesn’t mess around the inmates have it rough)
UPDATE: from MyFox - Orlando
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/anthony_case/012810-ronald-cummings
MyFox Orlando Orlando, Fl
1-28-10 12:36 p.m. EST
“Ronald Cummings gets first jail visit”
Article & Video
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Informative and shows the security surrounding Flagler County Detention Facility
All these degenerate lowlifes make me sick. It seems that anybody having anything to do with the Cummings or Croslins are nothing but trash. You would think that spending some time in jail might get these idiots to talk but I guess they’re used to those “accommodations”.
It’s time to recover poor little Haleigh already !
Got it Justice. Sometimes Wordpress has a delay and as for the double post it happens sometimes. When I see the duplicates I usually delete them. I can’t explain why it happens though
Have a great day everyone
Jan Barrett
With the bad economy it looks like it may get rough for anyone in prison. Here they have started rationing the toilet paper and soap.
Its funny when they discuss it on the news how inmates are angry.lol
Tobias, I totally agree with you about Mistys story of cleaning. The drugs she was apparently abusing would knock her out for atleast eight hours. No laundry soap, bed not slept in, suddenly remembering dreams of men in the home…none of it adds up. If she was so exhausted, theres no way she would have been cleaning…unless she was cleaning up a crime scene.
Seeing as how Misty gets angry watching Nancy G. maybe they could give her non stop reruns of that show everynight till she talks lol
ANON-Your post is rather harsh, don’t you think?? No matter what you think of Ron or Misty, there is still an innocent child missing. And she didn’t ask for it.
Also, because people live in trailors, and live a life of drugs & prison, doesn’t make them child abductors or killers.
Metinks, I have a 17 year old daughter and she would say leave it till the morning its not going anywhere. Which sometimes angers me but she is an Astudent and works hard so she gets away with it till it gets bad. lol
Aligoo 1:51 Your right. There DNA could have been in the house from earlier visits.
Who knows what Misty did when Ron went to work 2nd shift. I find it hard to believe a 17 year old would be happy taking care of kids and going to bed at 10. Who knows who she brought home.
Tobias, you’re right if she had taken drugs that night. I meant that she may have still been in a drugged stupor from her weekend’s activities. I don’t know much about drugs. But I do know that when I have had a prolonged lack of sleep, e.g., after a long red-eye plane trip, I sleep like there’s no tomorrow. If I am woken up in the middle of it, it’s like I’m in a drugged stupor - extreme grogginess. The next day, I may have no recollection of having been woken up earlier or I have a dim memory like it was a dream. I just think this scenario is possible.
Is it likely what happened? That’s another question. My own personal opinion is that Haleigh is deceased and it was due to an accident on Misty’s part. I think she called her brothers in for help in disposing the body. This is why she is so devious about the events that night. This is also why she will not talk in jail. However, I think someone else will talk in exchange for leniency. I suspect Misty admitted the truth to Donna B, but that Ron is still in the dark. I think deep in his heart he knows that she knows what happened but that he cannot believe that she was actually involved.
Ron is a good ole boy small time criminal who likes to brag and put on a big show, but he is no match for Misty. Misty is a well-trained manipulator as a member of a tight-knit family of con artists. She was brought up this way from the time she was born. She is a con artist extrordinare.
m2c (2:08 p.m.)
Thanks! DB for “dirt bag” sounds about right.
In a high profile case, like Haleigh or Caylee’s, I really believe some of these volunteers come out of the wood work. They are in it for 15 minutes of fame. Perhaps hoping they will be caught on camera. I bet some of these type of “volunteers” would not bother with some of the missing children Jan writes about. It is so sad that these children rarely get media coverage.
Then there are the real volunteers who are dedicated to the hard work involved in a search. They are there to do a search and take on whatever assignment they are given. They bear there own expenses (transportation, lodging, etc.). They could care less if the case is high profile. All they care about is finding the missing person so the family can have closure.
Tobias, if you care to comment, do you think it is possible that someone came over that night before LE got there and helped them get rid of stuff? Like pills or whatever. Maybe the whole bunch of them knew about prepaid cell phones even at that point in time.(Before Tim Miller arrived.) I think it would be naive to think they didn’t know about such things before then.
I am not up to date on a lot of things, because my computer keeps malfunctioning.
Correction: In my 2:31 p.m., the last paragraph, third line should be their instead of there.
They bear their own expenses . . .
Ron is a good ole boy small time criminal who likes to brag and put on a big show, but he is no match for Misty. Misty is a well-trained manipulator as a member of a tight-knit family of con artists. She was brought up this way from the time she was born. She is a con artist extrordinare.
VERY WELL SAID!!!!!!!
Tobias, My oldest son is 32. He has custody of his two small boys ages six and two. He was very messy as a teenager but keeps a reasonably clean home now. I still however go to his house to help with the housework. This case really touches a nerve with me.
tobias 2:26
Ouch!! That would be brual even for Misty!!
tobias said,in January 28th, 2010 at 2:26 pm Seeing as how Misty gets angry watching Nancy G. maybe they could give her non stop reruns of that show everynight till she talks lol
Ha ha! Great idea! I bet this would do the trick.
Jan (2:19 p.m.),
Thank you! I appreciate it!
BOLDONE3, I was referring to the Cummings and Croslins. As for the children involved, they are the innocents that unfortunately stand to lose the most. They are victims of their situation, ( they didn’t ask for it ).
With regards to “harshness”, nothing is too harsh when it comes to Ron, Misty, and their pals. ( Just a bunch of losers that can’t seem to stay out of trouble ).
Kool Look (2:13 p.m.)
Thank you for your kind words!
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I have to go. Hope I can come back later.
ALIGOO, Probably against the Geneiva conventions rules of cruelty.(spell)
Unleash Nancy on her lol I always wondered why she never went on the show, I think Nancy saw through her and this angered Misty. Her innocent I am only 17 and I had a hard life story wasnt getting sympathy on Nancys show.
I also wondered about the investigator that she walked out on saying he was being rude and yelling at her. He must have been good enough to crack her and she bailed before he got anywhere. this is just my opinion.
I fully agree, Tobias. She can sniff out who’s going to fall for her ploys and who isn’t.
Nancy pack up the photo albums of the twins and visit Misty, break her with your kindness.
Bet she would talk after about 15 minutes or maybe we would all need to donate to get Nancy out on bail. Maybe not a good idea after all. lol
Someone in her family who is also in jail is the weak link, I believe!
There were previous posts above about a Donna-Misty connection prior to Haleigh’s abduction. It seems pretty unlikely to me, but is certainly an intriguing possibility. I hope this is something that LE has followed up on.
Jane V M should also send 4 copies of her book to them about addiction. Ron reads alot maybe he would learn something while he sits in the cell. Misty and Tommy may need the audio version cause some of the words may be hard for them to read. Sorry but I am in a frustrated mood today and it beats getting angry. moo
Gotta go. Let’s hope that this case is about to be cracked. I have a feeling it’s getting close and that LE now has the missing piece of the puzzle. Sure hope this feeling is right!
Its also really wierd about Misty getting the tatoo of rons name on her lower back and him claiming he has another girlfriend that is not Misty? One story says he paid for it and he claims she did it on her own with Hope S.
I think from what I have watched in this is Misty is obsessed with Ron and Ron is lovin it.
Another thing thats wierd is the tat of Teresa name on his chest. Really, do guys put their moms names on their chest? jmo
Thanks again Simon & Jan for the story and for your great site!
Re Donna & Tim, I don’t know what in the world he was thinking by providing a 17 year old with a seriously disadvantaged background with a 44 year old drug dealing mother figure. She already had one of those. Very sad and imo, Tim has some explaining to do.
Re Donna posting at WS….I posted this ages ago, but no one paid attention (it was when many people thought she was a hero), so I’ll be interested in your thoughts. Donna, on her myspace and facebook pages uses tinkerbell as her avatar/symbol…she had tinkerbell pics all over her myspace page. IMO, that is very weird to begin with, given she is 44. The mod at WS who was a convicted child sex offender had a sister who posted at WS under the name TinkerBell. Coincidence?
I’d like to know if Donna has an alibi for the night Haleigh went missing.
Boldone3:
I think NG has taken a softer line with suspects and parents of missing kids because of her trial. I should have said her sudden soft spot for Ronald was two-fold. One was the deposition and one was for trying to get an interview, in my opinion.
I should have added, it was rumoured that it was Tinkerbell’s sister (the sex offender) that dropped off the letter to the newspaper.
BoldONe3, you have hit on one of the main problems. (If this flows a little awkwardly, it is because some of it is part of something I started to write awhile back which was not posted.)
Jan in the show on Sunday said something in the same vein as I have been thinking, that someone in this mix must be more clever than the others (not her exact words of course.) There is a lot that might indicate this.
BUT, There is something in regards to this idea that I can’t figure how to say exactly, except to start with an example: For instance, the bit about how Misty was complaining that she couldn’t even walk down the road without being afraid any more. Another blogger (Jason??) pointed out that the arrest reports say that she was walking down roads to be picked up by buyers.
Was she being deliberately misleading, (calculating), or just plain innocent / stupid? To me, this might be an example of how a lot of people might not understand how the mind of a complete narcissist works. (If she is a narcissist.) It is quite possible that she wasn’t thinking in terms of being misleading when she spoke, that it’s just a case that everything relates to her. On the other hand, she might have knowingly seized the moment to mislead at the same time. In which case, so much the better. I knew someone who did this sort of thing all the time. It was a woman. Maybe narcissistic cleverness is something apart from what we think of as I.Q. I don’t know.
You might sit there and think, with a seventeen year-old with a poor background, no education, and drug use, what you see is what you get. But, is this the case? That’s the problem.
This sort of confusion regarding intelligence level that I am attempting to describe is what you are up against in dealing with a totally narcissistic person, especially when considering things in retrospect. (She may or may not be a narcissist–I am not a psychologist. I mean IF she is that sort of person.) I am, of course, drawing on my own experience in this conclusion. And when you add drugs to the mix? I’m sure interviewing them can be, as they said, like interviewing a rock.
I watched Ron’s jailhouse interview on NG in the wee hours. I can see how some people might think he is actually a victim in this situation. I don’t think it’s shaping up that way. I’m still mulling over a couple of things, and still am on the side with those who doubt he is a victim. However, I should certainly know that truth is stranger than fiction, so I am keeping an open mind. I am really struggling with this.
One thing, I keep coming back to how TN defended this girl that she was the best girlfriend her son had ever had. Let’s say I’m considering a different slant on it now. Not convinced yet, but my mind is open.
Aside from the psychology that I BELIEVE may be involved with the Misty-Ron duo, I still think it is quite possible Misty has been getting coaching from someone at some time, and MAYBE Ron is a LITTLE more smart / clever than he lets on. It could be a case where two narcissists joined forces, perhaps this relationship, whatever it exactly is, was developing even before the disappearance of Haleigh.
Another thing: It looks (to me) like he expects compelete and total loyalty from her. The “LOYALTY TEST” as described by Mr. Miller seems to have a ring of truth to it, in my opinion. So who’s the boss? (Or supposed to be?) Maybe in the end, through sheer tenacity, she would turn the tables on him. It is a fact that women are more psychological than men. To make someone think they have won when they have actually lost — yes, I have seen this sort of coup.
I’ve heard all the bad-mouthing about the child’s mother and my opinion is, Crystal bad? No. At least (amongst other things), she was honest to the court about her prior drug use. That to me is very telling. Misty? The big problem is her age. The implications would be mind-boggling. The girl is, after all, only eighteen.
Of course there is the possibility that all this (even IF it were to turn out to be totally correct), still might just be related only to the drug stuff, and have nothing (or at least nothing direct), to do with Haleigh’s disappearance!
To me, the real question is, who is running the show. I guess we’ll have to wait and see.
All just my opinion, of course!
Justice:
Thanks for the link on Ron’s first visit. Seeing TN’s broken heart, is so sad. I know she probably did the best she could raising Ron., and to see him in prison for, possibly, many years is heartbreaking. She has suffered so much loss. Please, let’s pray for her.
My sister has a myspace and she is 54 and loves hello kitty collects them and its all over her site. She is far from being nuts. She has several phds and is an editor of a magazine. Donna may be a drug dealer and woman going through a midlife crisis. She may have also seen a way to get famous and alot of people try to insert themselves in these cases.
I really dont believe there was any way for TM to know she would do the things she has done and when he did see what was going on he immediately told her she wasnt to be associated with TES anymore.jmo
Gosh, Tobias! I nearly fell out of my chair just now reading your 3:40pm.
Crack open the bubbly, folks! (Not the really good stuff. Save that for when Haleigh is found. But something nice, anyway!)
Tobias, I agree with you! Hooray! And cheers!
(Hope this gives you a smile, at least, Tobias. I know you’re having a tough day. I’m sending my best wishes!)
Thank You, M2C I am going through the same thing as Jan today. It is a sad anniversary for me my first born died today 25 years ago several hours after she was born. October is also hard that was when I lost my second little girl 24 years ago.
On days like this I have no remorse for parents who do not do everything in their power to protect their children and then feel no guilt when something goes wrong. Trust me one day Ron will wake up and realize he failed Haleigh.jmo
Yes, perhaps it is an important question. Whose idea was the tattoo?
A tatoo on the — er — “lower back”?
You might think it means someone OWNS someone.
Signed, sealed, delivered, I’m yours????
Hi Tobias, I agree putting your mom’s name on your body is weird but yes many guys do that. I still haven’t figured it out. I asked a guy once why he did that and he said something like well my lovers name may change a number of times but my moms will never change or something to that affect. Just an FYI.
Tobias, I really am so so sorry and you are so right about parents who do not put their children first and protect them.
Treece, That could put a damper on relations if you didnt like your mom in law. There it is looking you in the face everytime lol
Tobias, I totally agree. It is just silly to me.
M2C, That may be why I sometimes seem hard on Ron. He shows no signs of the steps of grief. I know them well and also have been with people who went through the same thing.
It takes a long time until someone can resume
anything close to normal, let alone deal drugs and run with girlfriends. For me it was like a black pit of dispair and I had to climb out of it. Trust me its a very slow process. jmo
Tobias…I am very sorry for your losses…but must say I am bewildered as to why you would be so nasty towards Ron, who has now also lost a child? You were very lucky the internet wasn’t around when you suffered your losses, and you didn’t have to read or hear people blaming you for their deaths or saying you didn’t feel guilty enough etc. Why do you want Ron to suffer even more than he has? He obviously loved Haleigh and this must be devastating for him.
Re Hello Kitty….not sure what that has to do with my post. I’ve never seen a Hello Kitty posting at WS, nor heard of one associated with a convicted child sex offender. The point I was making was that there was a tinkerbell posting at WS who was the sister of a convicted child sex offender, and that SO apparently inserted herself in this case. I can’t see what that may have to do with your own sister and Hello Kitty???
tobias…I also have been through grief….most of us have. Have you ever met Ron or seen him outside of the snippets on tv? If not, how could you possibly know if he is showing the signs of grief or not??
Me. right now you have crossed my line. Please forgive me but f off.
Donna B is not her sister,there’s other reasons she used that and not her photo on MS.Some profiles from the past she had in a different area for some reason,very odd,w/no profile pics.I guess she just liked Tinkerbell.I can’t stand druggies and dealers,lost too many because of them,no sympathy,at all.
Anyhow, if anyone is interested in the possible tinkerbell/DB/child sex offender connection, you just have to google “websleuths” and “tinkerbell” and you will find much discussion about it. I do hope someone is interested in sleuthing this possible connection with me.
Yeah he is really suffering while he sells drugs that could kill someone elses child.
You asked for it thats how I feel. Ron is about Ron and what Ron lost. He may not have done anything but his actions since have spoken volumes. Most of the people I know and talk to after their loss can barely function and it can go on for a long time. jmo
WinterRose…how do you know DB is not her sister? We lose a lot more people from drinking and smoking than we do from drugs…I assume you have no sympathy for bartenders and people that work in shops that sell ciggies too?
tobias…have you spoken with Ron? I mean really, how can you claim to know how he feels? Are you psychic? Tim Miller became involved with cocaine after losing Laura….you feel the same way about him?
TObias, I am sorry for your pain today and in no way do I want to argue. I just want to say that have taken grief psychology. One of the main things it teaches is that there is no way to interpret someone’s grief. Everyone grieves differently. I don’t know Ron personally but I know some big ole red neck guys that mouth off and sound just like that Ron sometimes but I know they have a heart as big as Texas. I am not saying Ron does or doesn’t I am just saying we don’t know. This is the very same thing I posted when people said Crystal wasn’t really sad or crying in the early days when Haleigh went missing. We just don’t know.
Do your own background work.Are you seriously comparing store clerks and bartenders to selling drugs you know will go to kids?Pfffttt!And if you want to bash WS,why not drop your membership?
This is 2 different cases. Ron was not intentionally set up. This was a legal sting by law enforcement. You can call it a legal setup . The thing about this is YOU CAN’T GET STUNG IF YOU ARE NOT THERE! Ron has had a repitious lifestyle for sometime now and unfortunately it is going to take prison to teach him a new lesson in life.
I cannot say that he knows about Haleighs disappearance 100%. I still am a little suspicious about him though. I am choosing to stay open- minded and not willing to convict anyone. All I know is we do not know the evidence LE has like we do in the Casey Anthony case. Casey will not confess her guilt. One thing is still stands true. Noone wants to go to prison being charged a child murderer. This alone will keep people from talking and telling the truth along with getting the DP.. I am still holding out hope that she will come home safe,but am coming to terms that may not be likely.
I also feel jail house interviews are another form of communication to reach the ones you cannot get caught talking to by phone.
For your info:
Jane Velez-Mitchell will cover the Haleigh Cummings Case/Ronald Cummings tonight, including Ronald’s jailhouse call.
Also, she’ll cover the Morgan Harrington Case.
Jane Velez-Mitchell
HLN at 6:00 p.m. CST
treece…exactly!
Plenty of parents have guns in their homes, legal and illegal drugs, booze, cigs and other stuff (including household cleansers) that could harm their children. Hopefully all of those parents keep all those dangers away from their children.
WinterRose…it is you who needs to do some research. Cigarettes will kill more people this year than illicit drugs have killed in the last century. Alcohol kills countless children each week, destroys families, causes people to commit heinous acts of violence. The stats are out there if you care to educate yourself.
How do you know DB is not tinkerbell?
WinterRose…where do you get that I am bashing WS, and what makes you think I am a member there? And what does that have to do with Haleigh. Why do people like you get so upset at those of us unwilling to bash the parents of children who have gone missing? Hmmm. Does it make you feel good to blame a guy for the loss of his daughter? You think you’ve got one up on LE and you’ve solved the case and believe he deserves it. Frankly, I don’t get it. All I see is dark hearts bashing a man who lost his daughter, and I will never understand where that sort of ugliness comes from.
I am leaving now I may come back later. This rant on off topic is really solving nothing except to band stand. Drugs are illegal. Ron was selling drugs and got caught end of story.
Haleigh is still missing and hopefully someone will now talk. jmo
Nice spin,just keep making your rounds for damage control and diverting from what’s really going on.Google’s a wonderful thing for instant info,isn’t it?LOL
Transcript from the Nancy Grace Show on
1-27-10.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1001/27/ng.01.html
CNN Nancy Grace Show 1-27-10
“Haleigh’s Dad’s Jailhouse Interview”
I’m cracking up,what does cigarettes have to do with Haleigh’s abduction?I don’t think RC did anything to HaLeigh,except a lifestyle with druggies all around those kids.But,drug dealing is another story and they should be in jail.Maybe it will bring HaLeigh home or at least find out what happened.I could care less about any other adult involved,except GGM,she’s tried her best and it’s sad she’s alone now.
WinterRose @ 5:05 - I made that comment in response to someone else’s about having drugs in a house with children. To me it isn’t any “better” exactly just because the danger is legal. The danger is still there and parents have to protect their children (and plenty don’t). Just a general statement. That’s all.
m2c,
I didn’t read your comment,I was responding to “me”s comments to me.I’ll go back and read what you posted,I haven’t read all the comments.
Winter rose, glad to hear you have figured out the damage control that is going on here, I had sympathy foe Ron in the begining but the drug dealing was where I drew the line. Its not about RON its about HALEIGH. Some of these people need to realize he is a drug dealer.
And has totally lost any credibility. moo
Today and tomorrow are days of sadness for Tobias and Jan. I can only imagine that they are having a roller coaster ride of emotions. I know there are a number of other regular bloggers who have expressed their own loss and deep hurt on this blog. Ron & Crystal are missing their daughter, JR is missing his sister, Teresa and GGm Sykes are missing both Haleigh and Jr. They are probably all at different levels of pain and healing. I would just like to say that for the next couple of days as a respect for all the hurting I am not going to say rude things about any party and invite you all to join me in expressing kindness here for the next couple of days. We could all use a break. JMO. Treece
Tobias, I’ sorry you are having a sad time. I hope you won’t leave for very long. I really enjoy your posts.
Okay,just read your comment m2c,that’s true,many dangers in homes.But as far as guns in home,God help someone if they tried to get in my home.
WinterRose, we agree on something, guns!!! yay!!!!
treece said,
in January 28th, 2010 at 5:17 pm
WinterRose, we agree on something, guns!!! yay!!!!
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LOL
I think right now the only thing that could in any degree redeem Ron in my eyes would be to find out that he was the one who “signed, sealed, and delivered” Misty into the waiting arms of the law. Just my opinion.
WinterRose @ 5:15! No, Don’t read my comment @ 4:45pm! LOL! I thought you had so I responded. Neither of my comments were meant to disagree with anyone - just kind of a general look at things!
WinterRose, my comment was not meant to criticize anyone’s choices but just to point out that there’s lots to protect children from.
Alethea,
Yep,I have wondered that,but would it have been necessary?It just seems too extreme a route for LE to go.I’m just too upset about this drug dealing thing to see past it.But,anything is possible and the only reason I could see if LE was trying to get at bigger dealers in area.I guess JW didn’t roll,who knows.
I know m2c and you’re right.
How ironic it would be IF it turned out that neither Ron’s nor Misty’s involvement with drugs had anything to do with Haleigh’s disappearance but DID have something to do with finding out what happened.
Not saying it’s so. Far from it. Just noting the potential irony.
Thank you Justice for your updates on JVM. Thanks also for the link earlier fronm the Putnam newspaper saying this sting was originally set for Misty and Tommy Croslin.
Sorry for typo ( from)
Well we still dont have no Haleigh today. I will keep praying for her and have faith and hope for her return soon.
TIME TO LAUGH
http://www.tmz.com/2010/01/28/nancy-grace-deposition-sick-melinda-duckett-wrongful-death-lawsuit-cnn/
me 4:53
Liked your post.
That sounded like Johnny Sheffield on the jailhouse audio,wierd.
BOLDONE3 said,
in January 28th, 2010 at 6:32 pm
me 4:53
Liked your post.
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Me, me 2!!
WinterRose, that’s scary!!!
Oh come on,you know she didn’t come up with that herself.It would have to have been approved first.
treece 6:36
Great Minds…………lol
AnneInTn, praying for her safe return too!!!!!
There is nothing better for Haleigh than to pray for her!!!!
Before someone comes up with the conspiracy that it was Johnny,I just said it sounded like him,I know it was RC.LOL
Boldone3,
Great Minds laugh out loud alot and keep the heart merry!! I need to laugh more.
treece said,in January 28th, 2010 at 6:40 pm AnneInTn, praying for her safe return too!!!!!
There is nothing better for Haleigh than to pray for her!!!!
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All we can do at this point and pray for all our other kids.
Mc2 you could be right it could be a neighbour or just a person around that has been over looked because they don’t have a criminal record or signs of that behaviour. I believe each life has a destiny and each event with in serves a specific purpose. Each person enters our lives for a reason each one is a teacher. All of this is part of a master plan to bring to light. Whether it is about abuses in the Justice system, Putnam LE, Human Rights, laws that need to be changed. I believe all these will come to the table as a result of this case and this little girls life will not be in vain.
God Bless Haleigh and all her families
UPDATED from MyFox, Orlando
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/crime/012810-ronald-cummings-jailhouse-interview
WAWS Orlando, Fl.
1-28-10 Updated: 6:34 p.m. EST
“Ronald Cummings jailhouse interview”
Misty’s Mommy says Rc & Mc were still sleeping together up until arrest? What has “Magic Man” Hank Sr. been saying!?!
I have to wonder if all of Ronald’s charges that were previously dismissed/dropped have anything to do with him being an informant. I heard, and I can’t remember where I read this, maybe it was here? Someone had mentioned he was an informant. Forgive me if I am wrong, just thinking outloud. It makes no sense to have all those charges dropped even if his mom worked for the sheriff’s office. Then it makes sense why he was caught up in the drug deal, and smiling in his picture and why the newspaper says the sting was intended for Misty and Tommy. jmo
Michelle, Ronald’s mom did not work for the Putnam County Sheriff’s office, I believe it was the Alachua one. Best I can answer you re this issue.
Tobias, I do not claim to know you, nor do I claim to know that “ME” person, but I do feel that I might be a fairly good judge of character. Through reading your posts over the last year or so, I suspect that you are a thoughtful, caring person. “ME” on the other hand seems rather cold, judgmental, and hurtful. I lost my brother at the tender age of 54 from lung cancer. It was a very difficult time for my self and my family. I couldn’t fathom losing a child. My heart goes out to you. And to “ME”, If I misjudged you, I apologize…perhaps you were having a bad day…if this is the case, I hope you will find a way to make it right with Tobias.
Michelle, Teresa N at one time worked for a sheriff’s office in another county, not where Ron got in trouble. I don’t think there has been any evidence that she had any pull for him.
I have also heard the rumor that he was an informant but I don’t think there has every been anything to back that up. I also heard some of his previous charges were dismissed due to no evidence, or it was at a party and no proof which of the dozen people there did a joint belong to, and a few silly things like that. I don’t know the truth and have never seen any answer to that except speculation like we are doing here. But it is fine to think out loud. I even talk to myself about it sometimes. lol
alethea,sorry I didn’t see your post when I answered. thanks, treece
UPDATED: from WFTV, Orlando New video report
http://www.wftv.com/news/22365606/detail.html
WFTV Orlando, Fl
1-28-10 Updated: 6:15 p.m. EST
“Haleigh’s Jailed Dad Said Says He’d Kill Kidnapper” Article & Video Report
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The audio from the jail is more audible.
Correction to title in my 8:29 p.m. Comment:
“Haleigh’s Jailed Dad SAYS He’d Kill Kidnapper”
Simon Barrett, you wrote this article and listed a source that stated the bird was directed towards Tim Miller…Your sources are incorrect, the “BIRD” was not directed toward Tim Miller, it was directed towards people like you, and people that post comments about things they don’t understand and that are far out of their league. As far as Tobis, Jason, CS just to mention a few. I would like to see all of you get off your couch and put down your bag of popcorn, and volunteer your time towards looking for lost and exploited children. It’s a shame that the FDLE doesn’t have your expertise in crime solving, because if they did Haliegh would have been found by now, and Somer Thompsons killer would be behind bars. As far as I’m concerned your comments are not worth the time it took for you to post them.
For anyone who knows fire and rescue and searchers,they’re a close bunch,they deal in life and death,everyday.I could see pics like this just for some of them goofing off.There’s horrendous language and many a wild bunch,but if you need help,they’re there and the first ones on scene.
They help families at their own expense,family time and peace of mind.And why 10 years is about the tops of rescue,before you mentally and physically need to take a break,not all do.If it wasn’t for Donna being in these pics,they would mean nothing.I laugh when people think rescuers talk and act like saints,but they’ll risk thier lives for yours,in a heartbeat.
WinterRose said,in January 28th, 2010 at 8:51 pm
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Some of them will and some of them want.JMO
True Anne,for some that are only there for county position to look good on a resume.And bingo’s fun,if you can stand a smoke filled room calling out numbers.LOL
This is a blogger sight right? So that means we are entitled to speak our minds, opinions and such. We aren’t here to sign up for searching for lost and exploited children. If that was the case we would be out there. If our comments are so worthless than why did you bother to take the time and read them and reply?
UPDATE: from WESH, Orlando, Fl
http://www.wesh.com/news/22371009/detail.html
WESH Orlando, Fl
1-28-10 Updated: 8:35 p.m. EST
“Missing Haleigh Cummings’ Dad Speaks Out From Jail”
To me, these people that blog here care about these children and maybe, like myself, in situations where they are physically unable to help.This sight is one of the few that keeps updates on these missing children and it is easy to find.
That’s okay, Treece. You had more info than I did.
Are you talking to me?I’m talking about the finger gestures being made in the pics being no big deal,maybe I should have posted more slowly,thought that was obvious.If you mean bloggers “site”,I don’t think there was a recruiting form posted anywhere,maybe I missed one.
WinterRose, were you replying to me or to No1LeftBehind? I was responding to No1Left behind.
AnneInTn & WinterRose, I agree volunteers for search and rescue are as mixed as volunteers for a fire dept. Some are in it from the heart, as a public servant, others are in it for show and like WinterRose said to pad their resume’.
AnneInTn, I am like you if I ever need the volunteer I want it to be one that is there from their heart not their pride.
beautiful*adams (cent) said,
in January 28th, 2010 at 7:12 pm
Misty’s Mommy says Rc & Mc were still sleeping together up until arrest? What has “Magic Man” Hank Sr. been saying!?!
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how in the hell would she know that? Did she watch? lol Just like she said Ron paid for Misty’s tattoo and he said he didn’t. Is Lisa lying or was she lied to?
Whether or not Simons sources are incorrect is of little importance. What is important is that Miss Brocks behavior slaps the face of every single good citizen out their that is willing to volunteer themselves to help others. Miss Brock should be ashamed of herself. She’s middle aged woman acting like a rebellious little teenager. I have to laugh when I look at this photo, because she probably thinks she’s “lookin’ hot”! Her family must be so proud. My heart goes out to them.
curious said,in January 28th, 2010 at 7:43 am Hi Katfish, my 12:34 am post shows the link, hope you’re able to see it:
Curious, Thanks so much for taking the time to be sure I saw that link. You’re a peach! For some reason posts were slow showing last night and some showed up multiple times. LOL
I wonder why the other 2 incident reports weren’t posted here? Especially DB since she is the topic of several entries. At any rate…thanks again.
tobias- you don’t really know me, and we don’t even always seem to agree on everything, but I do always enjoy your posts. I just wanted to take a moment to notice this difficult day for you and offer sincere condolences. Hang in there sista!
Vaq, @10:01
I think Mother Croslin threw that out, because of Ron’s Girlfriend greeting, during his interview, and perhaps because TN is letting it be known that Ronnie was just keeping close to obtain info on HaLeigh. I’m thinking Mom Croslin aint having that.
per my 10:03 post: I meant to say citizens out “there”, not their.oops
Well fellow bloggers, I must turn in now as I’m entertaining my 6 year old grandson this weekend. Tonight I will remember in my prayers, all the missing, and a special prayer for Jan and Simon,and Tobias. goodnight all.
Goodnight methinks! Have fun with your grandson this weekend!
tobias,
I miss you here when you dont post and i have lost one too and i know your pain.Prayers coming your way friend.
Tobias and Jan, a prayer is coming your way from me also. I hope that the love & support from others gives you some comfort at this time.
AnneInTn, Jan, Tobias, I know you miss your babies, the little deposits that you have in heaven, I pray you are all comforted by God’s peace.
doesn’t donna brock look a tad manly in the finger photo? I wonder if she was interested in misty’s nubileness?..jus askin
Well when will Misty give her interview? Will she complain about her cell size, her loneliness,lack of reading materials and tell us she also has a boyfriend who is not Ron?
Should be interesting to see what she comes up with. Maybe she will claim she was set up by the other side of the family or will she now finally blame Ron to get out of trouble?moo
I believe it will go like this: I am addicted because I am young and uneducated, my family got me into the drugs, Ron was just trying to help me get enough money to get away from them and have a place to live. I felt too much pressure from LE and everyone and couldnt deal so I did drugs to escape, I didnt know what else to do with everyone blaming me for what happened to Haleigh. She will play for sympathy hoping to get a lighter sentence. Remember her lawyer is going to bring up the fact that she has no priors. jmo
[…] I was asked to remove the photo from the article but told that it was OK to leave the close up of Donna Brock if I so desired. I do not appreciate being grouped with her, nor did I give permission for my […]
Oh and Junior is in such better care with Crystal Sheffield who gave birth just what a year ago to a baby that was born on drugs and what in October crashed with that baby in the car while she was on drugs? After he doctor told her NOT to drive? The woman is still driving around, LE could arrest her if they wanted to and would not even have to set it up.
Chad’s crack pipes found when they searched the property for Haleigh-oh forgive me, they were “old crack pipes” sorry….Junior is in great hands……..
» Haleigh Cummings Update – Yet More Donna Brock…. - Blogger News Network said,
in January 30th, 2010 at 11:57 am
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It is highly possible that DB was taking the picture herself using a timer and she jumped into the photo at the last minute doing the gesture and others around her did the same. This would not allow time for others to jump out of the picture, and they may not have been aware of what was going on.
How many of us have been in photos with friends, or even a family photo at a wedding, where one or two idiots do a gesture or weird face that others did not know about until they saw the picture?
Simon – Please print the name and/or e-mail address of the source of the photo, or write an article about the individual who supplied the photo. This would give the source their 15 minutes of fame and would also be in fairness to everyone in the picture who were not making the gesture but their faces were not blocked out.
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