Taking the small time dealers off the street is easy and not much use. As long as the supply is coming in - and the demand is there -someone else will step in.

So I will reserve my “admiration” for LE until they take down a Dr or clinic that’s disseminating Rx illegally or a meth manufacturer/dealer or a coke or heroin importer/transporter. The “Misty Mob” or whatever is an utter joke. Not saying what they were doing wasn’t bad - it was - but in the scheme of things not even a drop in the bucket as far as the drug trade goes.

Jan Barrett

from ms.peridot19:

an article called hydrocodone http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lortab
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Due to its opiate-related side effects such as euphoria, sedation and somnolence, hydrocodone is now one of the most widely misused prescription drugs in America, along with its cousin oxycodone. Hydrocodone misuse is particularly prevalent among teenagers and young adults because of the drug’s widespread availability…
hydrocodone… In the U.S., formulations containing… less than or equal to 15 mg per dosage unit in combination with acetaminophen or another non-controlled drug are called hydrocodone compounds and are considered Schedule III drugs.
(i checked several sources and all say class II or class III depending on dosage.)
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((note: oxycodone is a class II drug. A synthetic opiate. It is sold under brand names such as Oxycontin and Percocets as well as Roxicodone. It’s effects are similar to heroin))
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controlled_Substances_Act
(1) Schedule I.—
(A) The drug or other substance has a high potential for abuse.
(B) The drug or other substance has no currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States…
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Schedule II.—
(A) The drug or other substance has a high potential for abuse.
(B) The drug or other substance has a currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States or a currently accepted medical use with severe restrictions.
(C) Abuse of the drug or other substances may lead to severe psychological or physical dependence.”
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Schedule III.—
(A) The drug or other substance has a potential for abuse less than the drugs or other substances in schedules I and II.
(B) The drug or other substance has a currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States.
(C) Abuse of the drug or other substance may lead to moderate or low physical dependence or high psychological dependence.”
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Loritab or Loratab is a common misspelling of Lortab (acetaminophen/hydrocodone).

i looked this up as i am not very knowledgeable on drugs - did not know if it is a different form or dosage. it is not different - diff spellings
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this is just to see what people say about them
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Lortab
1. … Lortabs are badazz and i suggest taking them whenever possible…
2. …A lortab can be snorted or taken orally. Snorting it will make the effects happen faster but burns like hell. When taken orally it should be chewed. Lortabs will f**k you up, and are easily hidden. What more could you ask for.
3. …Mother: OK honey, heres your Lortab!
Teen: *Hell yes* *2 hours later, “holy sh*t i cant feel my legs, and my feet have a pulse”.
4. … badass narcotic wit dat hydrocodone in it
hit me up wit dat lortab and percs
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a danger some are unaware of is (esp among younger people)
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some users will bypass this danger by using cold water extraction to extract and dispose of a portion of the acetaminophen, taking advantage of the water-soluble element of the drug. It is not uncommon for users to have liver problems from consuming excessive amounts of acetaminophen over a long period of time; taking

IMO it’s probably just a technical problem of some sort or it’s possible that some posts go into random moderation during the night when Jan is not awake (I HOPE!) to view them and let them post. But please just email and ask her!

It is skewed logic at best. Even though drug users may not die from their act, they cause harm to others. They rob others to get money, Tommy and mom are a prime example. Drug dealers do not mind killing the competion or people who owe them money or innocent by standers/witnesses. People on drugs are not predictable in their behavior and can quickly become violent. Drug users don’t care about much beyond the next fix and that includes the well being of their children.

Yes, alcohol use is bad, and legalizing it has not made it any better, but drug use is equally bad and a bane on society. If convicted in a court of law all drug dealers should do the max time, not the minimum.

Since you have such compassion for the drug dealing crowd, you should find great comfort in the fact that the states attorney in Fl drops or plea deals 90% of all drug related charges. Ron’s record is a prime example. Jacksonvilles’s murder rate is a prime example of the results.

Sorry, I did not have time to spell/ grammar check as I am on my way to work.

Hugs back! No problem, just adding my info as well. Sometimes I start a post adressed to one person and then go on to address another idea withoutspecifying who I was directing it to. Sorry.

THe Lori’s should be lesser crimes to be sure, it’s they oxies that scare the heck out of me. My area has lost about 20 young people to that same exact drug over the last decade. It is a very serious drug & problem. Very scary to be involved with on any level. I feel sorry for the people who need to take it due to terribly painfull conditions. I have been doing a lot of research on this topic since arrests and on many forums people who have been taking them, prescribed even, for yrs orally are no longer getting relief. If they have to take more than 4 a day, snorting it all is out of the question. They are now posting questions about injecting to get the relief they still need. Can you imagine?!? Having to inject your meds just to get relief? Awful, just awful. Many are signing a patition to have the manufacturer pull the drug from the market all together, they are so dangerous. So, to me, someone who is making this controlled drug available to anyone with a $20 bill or two is very scary! Once you start, it’s almost impossible to stop.

There was a Gregg arrested on Jan 26 2010. The code for his arrest perfectly matched Ron & co’s (the numbers for infraction). It says he was selling/possesion of drugs but doesn’t specify what type…odd?

Is this the Gregg that held the party? Is he another “arrest” that was promised? Are we really paying attention or are we just assuming that Ron & co are the only ones being arrested because the media isn’t telling us all about the others? There are a lot of washed out looking people being arrested for all kinds of crimes. Many are stealing/robbing to support their habits.

I was really dripping with sarcasm concerning the Loratabs. I know the schedule I narcotic they are, and how they fall on the list as a controlled substance. The first and lowest beginning on the scale of narcotic pain relievers. Which, like I stated, are no stronger than a motrin 800 mg pill. I’m not down playing the importance. And of course, if you take several, many and then crush them too, and add them to other substances, and alcohol, etc… you could have a deadly cocktail for sure. I certainly understand that and appreciate your post.

I just was totally shocked to learn of loratabs. Though I know it’s a controlled schedule I narcotic, they ought not be, LOL But the law is the law, and I agree we have to obey the laws of the land. I was being sarcastic and mocking, sorry didn’t mean to not appreciate your point made, as I truly do. I was just trying to make a point, prolly a stupid point. Sorry and hugs

“Now investigators are able to question five of the people who were closest to the girl, looking for any possible clues as to what happened to her.”

http://www.news4jax.com/news/22346617/detail.html

5 of the people closest to Haleigh? 5???

Some Loritabs (They are a schedule 1 drug, so they are felony terrotory. FL can impose a 10 yr sentence per pill. I know this to ba a fact as my friend’s 80 something yr old dad got popped for selling his.My friend paid over $40,000.000 to help his dad’s legal fees. Later charges were dropped & probation was issued.

They also got popped with synthetic heroin. If it had been actual black tar heroin, would that be minor or silly? These pills when crushed and snorted or injected have the exact same effect as other heroins and the exact same addictive properties. I have to disagree that it is a minor matter, JMO though.

Per an onsite source/witness. The shoes WERE given away. They were given ti Chad’s child, so they were still in the household, but I was extremely shocked they weren’t on a mantel somewhere!

AP per questions about Misty being in VA & GA:

Call #1: Cummings advised Det._ that she was coming from Virginia

http://download.gannett.edgesuite.net/wtlv/docs/012610_croslin4.pdf

Cummings stated that
she was traveling and would be in Brunswick, Georgia at 0223 hours. Cummings stated that “she” (Brock) does
not live where Cummings lives and that “she” (Brock) lives in Orlando.

If DB lives in Orlando, she may be renting. There are no property records in all the ones I have found for both DB & BB for Orlando. Anyone remember something significant happening just prior to June 19th? Something to do with Haleigh’s case? I’ll go look….Does DB match any sighting descriptions? There were 4 in her nearby area of NC…..1)Knoxville TN 2)North Augusta SC 3) 2 GA sightings. I too feel that TM isn’t the first time DB & MC met. CHecking into it.
Strangly enough DB also owns property in San Diego. Wsn;t Haleigh sighted in CA too? Also dismissed as not being her?

ms.peridot19,

Your question ‘Set up to find keys to the car?’ got my attention.

An in-depth report on the alleged ‘fake’ search would be appreciated. Very odd that Cobra, Tim Holmseth,(Reagan and others?) allege Haleigh’s purse was used for a dog to scent Haleigh, items including a nebulizer and car keys that belong to an impounded vehicle are found, but no confirmation from PCSO and no reports in major media?
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If I am not mistaken Connie S found the car keys after they had stopped searching. Also found on the search was a suitcase with a bus schedule(which just appeared out of no where according to someone that was there), a piece of cloth with rust stains or blood stains, toys, bloody glove and neubulizer.John Regan bagged the stuff up and stuck it in the vehicle and LE was not called, Regan called cobra instead. On the search was Marty/Connie, Marie/Bruce, John Reagan, a dog handler, somebody else but the name/s escapes me for now.

I think we all agree by now Haleigh’s case has been messed with badly, we just don’t know the names, or they haven’t been publically outed, yet. Hopefully it will be, along with who removed Haleigh from her home.

I want all the truth. I am reading Timothy Holsmeth’s site, and keeping all options open. I’ve seen some call him insane, a kook, blah blah. How can you deny the tapes he has? How can the emails, documents, facts he has posted be ignored? Why is so many trying to hide his site? Hinder any publishings regarding what he documents and writes? Why? Who is it exposing? What is it telling? The truth? Well some of the truth is coming out of there.

He’s armed apparently with more info, been holding onto facts and evidence piecing it together as he makes the puzzle pieces fit in order to understand whats going on. Some even say well why hasn’t he released so and so before now! Maybe he’s just now putting two and two together and how it applies to the case. Is that so hard to understand and get? No it isn’t. He’s had to start from scratch just like the rest of us.

He didn’t receive the answers, then a jumble puzzle and told now put it together. He received bit by bit, recording by tape, interviews, emails, phone calls, people learning of him, divulging useful parts to this case and he’s trying to align them up to be sensible. Not one person has all the answers to this hot mess. It’s taking time to figure out the wrong doing of apparently many involved.

And ooooh my gosh, please let me speak about this drug dealing. Am I correct in understanding the drugs were Loratabs? Baaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaa oh my goodness. I am flabbergasted. I can’t believe all this hoopla, arrests, media circus and crap over loratabs? That aren’t strong than a darn motrin 800 miligram? I thought there was drug buys and busts? My mind is blown away. Is this all LE has? Loratabs? LOL

Ohh Denise,you and me,why do you think I’ve been posting from here to zamboo all these article’s,This is people’s lives here,and I assumed before the LE was doing their job and listened to what they said and never even suspected anyone else except M & R!!

I should’ve known betttttter!
After my own husband’s case was botched the same way!!!

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Peggy,

How does Va and Ga come into play??? I an trying to catch up here and I havent read this. Can you explain? Thanks

LoL Funny you mention that,OMG i was reading this coverup stuff today and went to AH site and blasted him and gave my opinion,went to mederating?? LoL It won’t show up!!Maybe,LoL
Unless they get mad enough to tackle me!

Denise,I gotta tell ya what I think now too,I think maybe Misty was lying but only b/c she wasn’t home and was afraid to tell Ronald,ya know because remember on the LD test when the guy who was giving it to her said,what are you not telling me just now? There’s something you’re not truthful about,that was after she said,I woke up and you know the rest!!!!

Ya know,that bother’s me now too,why/who would be selling and keeping drugs around when their child’s gone missing,why would they walk by the road to sell to a person,knowing any moment they risk a search and especially since they’d been taken in a few times,I mean that’s pretty dumb!

Thanks Anne for telling me where ya were!

also, do you ever wonder why hc last weekend is such a mystery to the public? that always strikes me as odd. when people go missing they usually tell the public what/where the person has been. i know we have heard about her last day. maybe her last weekend is part of the investigation?

As I said before, I believe that MC and DB paths crossed before HaLeigh went missing. With all we “know” of these two, their “habits” and so forth… why was DB the chosen one? TM didn’t know of her pill flipping ways!! Those two just took to one another… that I am not buying. I know flippers can spot their own kind, this is too much of a coincidence.

Your question ‘Set up to find keys to the car?’ got my attention.

An in-depth report on the alleged ‘fake’ search would be appreciated. Very odd that Cobra, Tim Holmseth,(Reagan and others?) allege Haleigh’s purse was used for a dog to scent Haleigh, items including a nebulizer and car keys that belong to an impounded vehicle are found, but no confirmation from PCSO and no reports in major media?

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Boy-o-boy you got that right. Eveyone needs to get off there a$$ and tell the truth and its just not these family members either.

While the abuse of prescription drugs are a national problem I’ve recently learned there are very clear reasons why Florida has such a horrible problem

In early 2009, thirty eight (38) states had enacted legislation implementing a Prescription
Drug Monitoring Program in their states. Florida was the largest state without a Prescription Drug Monitoring Program and became a destination for traffickers, dealers and users seeking to illegally acquire prescription drugs.

Finally, in July 2009 Florida enacted legislation to implement a Prescription Drug Monitoring Program. The Prescription Drug Monitoring Program is to be operational beginning in December 2010.

Hopefully monitoring the dispensing will help but clearly the DEA needs to get to work on these “Pill Mills”. Of the more than 1 million dispensing doctors registered with the Drug
Enforcement Administration (DEA) almost 60,000 dispensing doctors (or 6%) are
registered in the State of Florida. REALITY CHECK!

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=151293&provider=rss
First Coast News Jacksonville,Fl
1-27-10 Updated: 7:03 p.m. EST

“Haleigh’s Grandmother: Misty Croslin May Reveal Truth Soon” Article & Video

well i have been wondering if db has it all figured out for herself how to make the most out of her “luck”. tapes, inside info to sell etc. but, i also wonder (i don’t know the correct way to say this) is she put together right???
her judgements? she is another one, i actually thought she had an opportunity to help out someone who really could have used help. AND to maybe find out some truths. HA!!!!! it sure looks like she only had herself in mind! jmo

Knowledge of many many “conversations”, only filtered out to the public, well after they “had” taken place. I think it’s a possibility that Ron shared that with “Magic Man” Hank Sr. Not saying it happened that way, or those particular words were used. It could have just been taken out of context. Hard to tell fact from fiction. But, I do believe that sooooo many other conversations took place on those “high” flying nights, and that they ALL know more than they’re saying.

the fake search - the most innocent thing i came up with, this was to make people (the public) feel like they were doing everything they could to be looking for hc. you know, maybe they really didn’t know how to search. so a public relations thing.

but, it confuses me, why would they find obviously phony stuff like tree sap on a glove. the police would never fall for anything like that! it seems so ridiculous, would it not make them look suspicious to the police? i know what t.h. alleges. but, then why do a so obviously fake search? did they mean to encourage or discourage more searching for haleigh? was it all a set up to find the keys to the car? that they think that “those” people are guilty or know something.

the only thing i know for sure is i don’t know! and this is all my own opinion and questions!

He said LE knows he does not know anything about Haleigh because he (Ron) would have killed whoever.

Ron said he does not care if he gets Life without Parole or death for killing whoever took Haleigh.

The above is not verbatim. If you want to listen to the audio, please see my 6:23 p.m.
You can click on the Audio in the article.

Comments here, and from Misty, Crystal, Teresa, and probably others whom I haven’t heard, about how much Ronald loves his little girl.

“She’s his heart”.

How much would Ronald pay to get his heart back?

I’d like to hear Hank Sr. clarify the conversation he had with Ronald about the need for money to get Haleigh back.
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I really don’t believe there was a conversation like that between Ron and Hank. Wasn’t that call to Tim made after they showed up at the Sykes home and started crap? I can’t remember now.

Ron would sit in jail to get his heart back and give up his life to get his heart back.

Happy to be in the family!

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I agree with you also. I feel Misty is being set-up about this baby being took. They got to have someone to blame.imo

I may not agree totally or always with your posts… But @ 6:58 you became an In-Law!!!

–also i agree, i am impressed with the deduction, and search skills happening here. way to go katfish, tobias and everyone!

katfish - than you for the report “Broward County (FL) Takes Steps to Protect Public from Dangerous Pill Mills” i will read this week.

I’m with you, don’t believe Ronald assualted Haleigh.

Ronald said she was stolen, so I think I’ll travel down that route to see where it leads

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Jason glad to see you travel this road. You may be surprised what you find. Time tells all imo

I have to drag myself away from here for a few hours to get some things done. I hope Haleigh is home by the time I get back!

IMO, even Cobra has withheld information intentionally.

Re the alleged fake search, I was at WS when that was happening….the dog’s owner was saying she was scared of Crystal & co because of what she allegedly saw. She talked of a man she couldn’t identify, but said he looked similar to Dominic Casey, who at that point was working for Crystal & co (why they would hire him is very suspicious to me given what we know of his games re Caylee’s body and friendship with Cindy A). Then the dog’s owner seemed to change her mind about it all. Very odd.

Media reported on the pond being dredged, TES horseback searchers, but didn’t report on a search the Sheffield’s supposedly did.

I don’t even know who dubbed it a ‘fake’ search.

I’m with you, don’t believe Ronald assualted Haleigh.

Ronald said she was stolen, so I think I’ll travel down that route to see where it leads.

your point about lisa having a chance to be interviewed. i agree. i am sure ron did not turn out to be the son-in-law they were hoping for.

“Haleigh Cummings’ father, former stepmom in trouble again” in this article, although not exactly in interview they do have croslin quotes. and it was sure noteable the difference in the way tn and lisa croslin describe m & r relationship.

maybe m & r are those kind of people addicted to drama?

if r.c. is not uc he really did let down his son, mom, and grandma. how much more can this family take?

I agree with you both here.I will never by it that Ron harmed Haleigh.

If you’ve got something to add, I welcome it, otherwise, I’ll just ignore.

http://www.news4jax.com/news/22358352/detail.html News4Jax Jacksonville, FL
Updated: 1-27-10 6:05 p.m. EST

“Cummings: Focus Turns To Haleigh”

Article and Uncut Jailhouse Ronald Cummmings
Interview (Audio)

“She’s his heart”.

How much would Ronald pay to get his heart back?

I’d like to hear Hank Sr. clarify the conversation he had with Ronald about the need for money to get Haleigh back.

I too, choose to believe she is still alive. No proof she isn’t, so considering who took her and why is where I’m at.

Just condidering the data we have. Ronald said she was stolen, Butterbean said a man in black, with squeaky shoes took her, Misty said she doesn’t know who took her.

Maybe there is truth in what Hank Sr. said about Ronald saying he needed thousands of dollars to get Haleigh back.

A dealer out of San Mateo might be owed money.

Wondering if he meant people in San Mateo
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What people in San Mateo? I like to read your posts and I still feel this baby girl is alive somewhere and i will never lose that faith.

Wondering if he meant people in San Mateo.

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I agree. It sure does sound this way, kat.

This to me sounds like Donna is Dr shopping, possibly in the 2 states.

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Peggy,

How does Va and Ga come into play??? I an trying to catch up here and I havent read this. Can you explain? Thanks