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		<title>By: Sol Shapiro</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/123119#comment-1454851</link>
		<dc:creator>Sol Shapiro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 22:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GEOENGINEERING, such as emulating the cooling effect of large volcanic eruptions to put global warming on hold is missing from almost all climate change discussion.  But studying it to create the knowledge base needed to deploy it if needed can be central to taking the "crisis" atmosphere out of the desirable long term goal for a non-fossil sustainable energy base.
Within the last few months the British Royal Society, the American Meteorological Society and the National Academy of Sciences under its program "America's Climate Choices" are calling for geoengineering study.
And the House of Representatives Science and Technology Committee held the first of a series of planned hearings and heard prominent scientists call for funding of geoengineering study.  Links can be provided to all of this so you can hear from "people who know what they are talking about" (not me!). Somarl@msn.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GEOENGINEERING, such as emulating the cooling effect of large volcanic eruptions to put global warming on hold is missing from almost all climate change discussion.  But studying it to create the knowledge base needed to deploy it if needed can be central to taking the &#8220;crisis&#8221; atmosphere out of the desirable long term goal for a non-fossil sustainable energy base.<br />
Within the last few months the British Royal Society, the American Meteorological Society and the National Academy of Sciences under its program &#8220;America&#8217;s Climate Choices&#8221; are calling for geoengineering study.<br />
And the House of Representatives Science and Technology Committee held the first of a series of planned hearings and heard prominent scientists call for funding of geoengineering study.  Links can be provided to all of this so you can hear from &#8220;people who know what they are talking about&#8221; (not me!). <a href="mailto:Somarl@msn.com">Somarl@msn.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Michael Suede</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/123119#comment-1454793</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Suede</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 19:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The actual hacked climate model source code explained by a software developer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYxk7pnmMFw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gp4sMasX-_8

This is better than the emails, trust me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The actual hacked climate model source code explained by a software developer:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYxk7pnmMFw" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYxk7pnmMFw</a><br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gp4sMasX-_8" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gp4sMasX-_8</a></p>
<p>This is better than the emails, trust me.</p>
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		<title>By: mkurbo</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/123119#comment-1454714</link>
		<dc:creator>mkurbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 16:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It’s time for lawyers and lawsuits !         Use the lefts own weapons against them…

They have cost people, economies and businesses billions, maybe trillions.  Not to mention brainwashing a whole generation of kids and young adults with a story based on fabricated data and faulty science.  This is without a doubt the greatest scientific scandal of the modern era – spinning the natural warming/cooling cycles of the earth into a fairy tale of catastrophe climate alarmism to support their far left agenda. 

There has never been a better time to for people around the world to stand up and say “enough is enough” with this crap.  Spain has “tanked” their economy in pursuit of the AGW doctrine and Europe is not far behind.  They should be the first to file lawsuits against the UN’s IPCC and those individuals involved to recover lost investments from the IMF until both are broken to the ground for this crime.

Gore and the AGW group did not want a debate.  So we will honor that position and not allow them to debate their position at the forth coming trials.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s time for lawyers and lawsuits !         Use the lefts own weapons against them…</p>
<p>They have cost people, economies and businesses billions, maybe trillions.  Not to mention brainwashing a whole generation of kids and young adults with a story based on fabricated data and faulty science.  This is without a doubt the greatest scientific scandal of the modern era – spinning the natural warming/cooling cycles of the earth into a fairy tale of catastrophe climate alarmism to support their far left agenda. </p>
<p>There has never been a better time to for people around the world to stand up and say “enough is enough” with this crap.  Spain has “tanked” their economy in pursuit of the AGW doctrine and Europe is not far behind.  They should be the first to file lawsuits against the UN’s IPCC and those individuals involved to recover lost investments from the IMF until both are broken to the ground for this crime.</p>
<p>Gore and the AGW group did not want a debate.  So we will honor that position and not allow them to debate their position at the forth coming trials.</p>
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		<title>By: John A. Jauregui</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/123119#comment-1454593</link>
		<dc:creator>John A. Jauregui</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 08:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stop bitching, take responsibility and take action.  Stop all donations to the political party(s) responsible for this fraud.  Stop donations to all environmental groups which funded this Global Warming propaganda campaign with our money, especially The Environmental Defense Fund.  Write your state and federal representatives demanding wall to wall investigations of government sponsored funding and coordination of this and related propaganda campaigns and demand indictments of those responsible.  Write your state and federal Attorneys General demanding Al Gore and others conducting Global Warming/Climate Change racketeering and mail fraud operations be brought to justice, indicted, tried, convicted and jailed.  That’s what I have done in response to this outrageous violation of the public trust.  Think of the consequences if you do nothing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stop bitching, take responsibility and take action.  Stop all donations to the political party(s) responsible for this fraud.  Stop donations to all environmental groups which funded this Global Warming propaganda campaign with our money, especially The Environmental Defense Fund.  Write your state and federal representatives demanding wall to wall investigations of government sponsored funding and coordination of this and related propaganda campaigns and demand indictments of those responsible.  Write your state and federal Attorneys General demanding Al Gore and others conducting Global Warming/Climate Change racketeering and mail fraud operations be brought to justice, indicted, tried, convicted and jailed.  That’s what I have done in response to this outrageous violation of the public trust.  Think of the consequences if you do nothing!</p>
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		<title>By: JunkkMale</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/123119#comment-1454569</link>
		<dc:creator>JunkkMale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 07:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A nice articulation of a mindset that seems unfairly represented between two very big sets of extremes who seem thrive in the spinning in one place process of knocking spots off each other demanding total adherence to their respective 'you are either with us or we'll crush you' dogmatic standpoints. Basically man is all to do with it, or nothing.

I can clearly see the climate is changing, and not in a good way. And considering our prevalence, and ability to soil wherever we land, it seems pretty likely that 'man' is not helping much.

Hence grasping 'our' role is critical.

Especially when some hefty decisions and initiatives are bearing down on various pockets on the basis of the big 'A' global warming being held responsible.

Sadly this claim is now being used a lot, by a bunch of folk whose abilities as messengers have already been found less than stellar (from government to some very cooperative media) if the publics' responses thus far are anything to go on. These are folk on record as saying that 'the science is settled'.

And now the message they have been selling so poorly seems to have suffered... at the very least... a slight credibility setback.

Hence my concern at giving such a bunch of folk a mandate to blow bazillions into what seems very vague 'cures' for not yet very well clarified 'problems', which strikes me as precipitate.

Hence I ask questions. A lot. I ask them of the science, and I ask them of the politics and economics based on them. There are now some further questions on the science, yet the latter barrel along like some unstoppable train based on a 'green must always be good' magic wand that turns those with cranked eyebrows and a belief in sensible enviROI+ initiatives into deniers who hate their kids.

Or simply get ignored as the questions being posed seem 'inconvenient'.

In my country the level of 'move along, nothing more to see here' from our Establishment, both government and some media, is troubling.

Especially in an era of internet communication, this is potentially very damaging to the cause of sensible, paced eco-environmental evolution. Where playing fast and loose with facts based on agenda has no place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A nice articulation of a mindset that seems unfairly represented between two very big sets of extremes who seem thrive in the spinning in one place process of knocking spots off each other demanding total adherence to their respective &#8216;you are either with us or we&#8217;ll crush you&#8217; dogmatic standpoints. Basically man is all to do with it, or nothing.</p>
<p>I can clearly see the climate is changing, and not in a good way. And considering our prevalence, and ability to soil wherever we land, it seems pretty likely that &#8216;man&#8217; is not helping much.</p>
<p>Hence grasping &#8216;our&#8217; role is critical.</p>
<p>Especially when some hefty decisions and initiatives are bearing down on various pockets on the basis of the big &#8216;A&#8217; global warming being held responsible.</p>
<p>Sadly this claim is now being used a lot, by a bunch of folk whose abilities as messengers have already been found less than stellar (from government to some very cooperative media) if the publics&#8217; responses thus far are anything to go on. These are folk on record as saying that &#8216;the science is settled&#8217;.</p>
<p>And now the message they have been selling so poorly seems to have suffered&#8230; at the very least&#8230; a slight credibility setback.</p>
<p>Hence my concern at giving such a bunch of folk a mandate to blow bazillions into what seems very vague &#8216;cures&#8217; for not yet very well clarified &#8216;problems&#8217;, which strikes me as precipitate.</p>
<p>Hence I ask questions. A lot. I ask them of the science, and I ask them of the politics and economics based on them. There are now some further questions on the science, yet the latter barrel along like some unstoppable train based on a &#8216;green must always be good&#8217; magic wand that turns those with cranked eyebrows and a belief in sensible enviROI+ initiatives into deniers who hate their kids.</p>
<p>Or simply get ignored as the questions being posed seem &#8216;inconvenient&#8217;.</p>
<p>In my country the level of &#8216;move along, nothing more to see here&#8217; from our Establishment, both government and some media, is troubling.</p>
<p>Especially in an era of internet communication, this is potentially very damaging to the cause of sensible, paced eco-environmental evolution. Where playing fast and loose with facts based on agenda has no place.</p>
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		<title>By: JackPoynter</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/123119#comment-1454536</link>
		<dc:creator>JackPoynter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 06:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very fairminded.  Here's another viewpoint:  as the person (American taxpayer) who's going to pay for saving the Earth, I want to be sure that we're not being taken for a ride, and I'm not at all sure on that point at present.

Einstein formulated his theory many decades ago, and people are still running experiments against his conclusions with a view to verifying it.  That's the scientific method: formulate theory, predict, experiment, check results, reformulate theory if necessary.

The people at CRU seem to have taken the heart out of the scientific method:  They formulated, predicted, experimented (collected data, in this case,) and, when they didn't get the answer they wanted, modified the data until it showed what they wanted to show, no reformulation of theory necessary, because the result was so (politically) important.

It's my money.  I don't want to spend it on spurious results and bogus claims.  If the results aren't spurious, and the claims aren't bogus, fine.  But the data and methods should be opened to robust, independent, boisterous, universal review.  And if the data has been lost, throw out the result.

That's the only way to retrieve this situation, as far as I'm concerned, and it's my money we're talking about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very fairminded.  Here&#8217;s another viewpoint:  as the person (American taxpayer) who&#8217;s going to pay for saving the Earth, I want to be sure that we&#8217;re not being taken for a ride, and I&#8217;m not at all sure on that point at present.</p>
<p>Einstein formulated his theory many decades ago, and people are still running experiments against his conclusions with a view to verifying it.  That&#8217;s the scientific method: formulate theory, predict, experiment, check results, reformulate theory if necessary.</p>
<p>The people at CRU seem to have taken the heart out of the scientific method:  They formulated, predicted, experimented (collected data, in this case,) and, when they didn&#8217;t get the answer they wanted, modified the data until it showed what they wanted to show, no reformulation of theory necessary, because the result was so (politically) important.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s my money.  I don&#8217;t want to spend it on spurious results and bogus claims.  If the results aren&#8217;t spurious, and the claims aren&#8217;t bogus, fine.  But the data and methods should be opened to robust, independent, boisterous, universal review.  And if the data has been lost, throw out the result.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the only way to retrieve this situation, as far as I&#8217;m concerned, and it&#8217;s my money we&#8217;re talking about.</p>
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