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		<title>By: intuitively obvious to the most casual observer</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/123118#comment-1455196</link>
		<dc:creator>intuitively obvious to the most casual observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 14:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>University of East Anglia Climate Research Unit, CRU, is the global center for merging weather reports.  CRU had incoherent data sets. They force fit the data to their model of global warming. This is not science. 

The physics of light tell us that atmospheric carbon dioxide cannot trap heat, and cannot influence climate. That is all ye know, and all ye need to know: http://nov55.com/ntyg.html

There is no greenhouse glass earth enclosure. A greenhouse gas effect is impossible.  Kudos to Al Gore for a great piece of fiction. 

Ten year data from 1998 show global cooling and an expansion of polar ice.  Cooling of 0.5 degree over ten years could be described as catastrophic cooling. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>University of East Anglia Climate Research Unit, CRU, is the global center for merging weather reports.  CRU had incoherent data sets. They force fit the data to their model of global warming. This is not science. </p>
<p>The physics of light tell us that atmospheric carbon dioxide cannot trap heat, and cannot influence climate. That is all ye know, and all ye need to know: <a href="http://nov55.com/ntyg.html" rel="nofollow">http://nov55.com/ntyg.html</a></p>
<p>There is no greenhouse glass earth enclosure. A greenhouse gas effect is impossible.  Kudos to Al Gore for a great piece of fiction. </p>
<p>Ten year data from 1998 show global cooling and an expansion of polar ice.  Cooling of 0.5 degree over ten years could be described as catastrophic cooling. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.</p>
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		<title>By: cmflyer</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/123118#comment-1455009</link>
		<dc:creator>cmflyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 05:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Growth, growth, growth. That is the enemy. It's a genetic imperative that has become an economic imperative. Because this is a finite planet, we will need the resources from other planets, so space exploration must be maintained.

I am intrigued by the concept that the power-brokers of the planet have begun to use "green" as yet another method to keep the masses down and keep their own excess of wealth and influence up. Should I be driving a V-8 SUV to the grocery store just to show them who's boss?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Growth, growth, growth. That is the enemy. It&#8217;s a genetic imperative that has become an economic imperative. Because this is a finite planet, we will need the resources from other planets, so space exploration must be maintained.</p>
<p>I am intrigued by the concept that the power-brokers of the planet have begun to use &#8220;green&#8221; as yet another method to keep the masses down and keep their own excess of wealth and influence up. Should I be driving a V-8 SUV to the grocery store just to show them who&#8217;s boss?</p>
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		<title>By: Layla</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/123118#comment-1454701</link>
		<dc:creator>Layla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 15:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm.. Some good points, and some very questionable ones.

How is starvation in Africa due to 'green' NGOs and not due to corrupt politicians and tribal wars (&#38; people giving or seling them weapons??) Just curious-??

And about plastic bottles. Glass is not the 'only' alternative, people doing sports or other more dangerous activities can use reusable bottles made of sturdy plastics or metal. Personally I do prefer glass, and take a bottle to hiking trips etc - so far, so good!!
A friend of mine keeps her glass bottle in a fabric 'bag' so if anything broke, it's contained by the fabric. In the old days, farmers here in Slovenia just used sort of basket-weaving to protect glass bottles, carried them to the field etc, and none broke that I know of! 

I do hate trash, and since many plastics don't really get recycled, I prefer to avoid it altogether - EU legislation supports minimizing trash too! (Would you like to live near a landfill or incinerator?)

I do agree there are many questions and no simple answers, but saying everything 'green' is evil, is another way of spreading prejudice! 
Many 'conservative' people just roll eyes and are against global warming so they could pollute more easily!! Filters and cleaning systems cost money! Hence the jokes etc!

I agree that it's better to have controlled mines than illegal mines, and factories inspected and monitored by independent organisations.

I also wish for a global toxics legislation: if a pesticide is too toxic and banned in EU, why is it not banned in India and China etc, and can be produced by Bayer (who produces aspirines!!) &#38; sold with no regulations in a regular shop?? 

I wish eco people didn't focus so much on CO2 but on the other, much worse toxics!! It just feels like greenwashing, a bit - to take attention from more important and more toxic things! (And possibly sell LCDs and CFLs, and now nukes??)

Coal energy plants produce NOx and other gasses which are muuch more toxic than CO2!! 

So partly it's GOOD that people are trying to go more eco and be more sustainable etc!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm.. Some good points, and some very questionable ones.</p>
<p>How is starvation in Africa due to &#8216;green&#8217; NGOs and not due to corrupt politicians and tribal wars (&amp; people giving or seling them weapons??) Just curious-??</p>
<p>And about plastic bottles. Glass is not the &#8216;only&#8217; alternative, people doing sports or other more dangerous activities can use reusable bottles made of sturdy plastics or metal. Personally I do prefer glass, and take a bottle to hiking trips etc - so far, so good!!<br />
A friend of mine keeps her glass bottle in a fabric &#8216;bag&#8217; so if anything broke, it&#8217;s contained by the fabric. In the old days, farmers here in Slovenia just used sort of basket-weaving to protect glass bottles, carried them to the field etc, and none broke that I know of! </p>
<p>I do hate trash, and since many plastics don&#8217;t really get recycled, I prefer to avoid it altogether - EU legislation supports minimizing trash too! (Would you like to live near a landfill or incinerator?)</p>
<p>I do agree there are many questions and no simple answers, but saying everything &#8216;green&#8217; is evil, is another way of spreading prejudice!<br />
Many &#8216;conservative&#8217; people just roll eyes and are against global warming so they could pollute more easily!! Filters and cleaning systems cost money! Hence the jokes etc!</p>
<p>I agree that it&#8217;s better to have controlled mines than illegal mines, and factories inspected and monitored by independent organisations.</p>
<p>I also wish for a global toxics legislation: if a pesticide is too toxic and banned in EU, why is it not banned in India and China etc, and can be produced by Bayer (who produces aspirines!!) &amp; sold with no regulations in a regular shop?? </p>
<p>I wish eco people didn&#8217;t focus so much on CO2 but on the other, much worse toxics!! It just feels like greenwashing, a bit - to take attention from more important and more toxic things! (And possibly sell LCDs and CFLs, and now nukes??)</p>
<p>Coal energy plants produce NOx and other gasses which are muuch more toxic than CO2!! </p>
<p>So partly it&#8217;s GOOD that people are trying to go more eco and be more sustainable etc!</p>
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		<title>By: west129</title>
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		<dc:creator>west129</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 05:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am furious because I missed out on the AGW bonanza believing that nobody would be that stupid to fall for it.  

The AGW-hoax appears to fall under the rubric of “The end justifies the means”. AGW’s scientific foundations are the “Applied Statistics for the Successful Gambler”, “The Psychology of Fear and Mass Hysteria” and “Das Kapital, Philosophical-Political Implementations”. 

I am more comfortable applying the generally accepted wisdom of “What goes up must come down” which appears to be the bed rock of the AGW hoax and which provided this once in a life time opportunity for gamblers and social engineers specifically.

I knew, historical data show a distinct rhythm of the global temperatures during the past 420 thousand years.  Analysis of the data reveals that we are living in times where temperatures will continue to go up. Therefore, to place a bet that during the next 200 years global temperature will rise is not a bet at all but it is a certainty. However, what makes AGW a hoax is the claim that the CO2 emission from simply breathing and producing energy is responsible for past and especially for the present rise in temperature. 

The scientific fact that CO2 levels in the air correlate to the temperature of the air obviously can’t be patented as a new way to measure temperatures. However, reversing the relation and claiming that the increase in temperature is caused by an increase in CO2 can be used as a powerful tool for politicians and social engineers for the exploitation of the scientific illiterate masses. Humans dislike change and prefer the status quo especially if prophets predict a fiery hell on earth. The promise of salvation by being able to slow stop and even reverse the warming is just too appealing. 
 
Too late now. I certainly missed out on the AGW bonanza.  One group, however, still has a chance to profit from the hoax and I advise the following: those with an option to select the time of re-incantation, pick 4800 years from now and make a bet that the temperature will go down, because what goes up must come down, and the models tell us, by then we will be in the down cycle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am furious because I missed out on the AGW bonanza believing that nobody would be that stupid to fall for it.  </p>
<p>The AGW-hoax appears to fall under the rubric of “The end justifies the means”. AGW’s scientific foundations are the “Applied Statistics for the Successful Gambler”, “The Psychology of Fear and Mass Hysteria” and “Das Kapital, Philosophical-Political Implementations”. </p>
<p>I am more comfortable applying the generally accepted wisdom of “What goes up must come down” which appears to be the bed rock of the AGW hoax and which provided this once in a life time opportunity for gamblers and social engineers specifically.</p>
<p>I knew, historical data show a distinct rhythm of the global temperatures during the past 420 thousand years.  Analysis of the data reveals that we are living in times where temperatures will continue to go up. Therefore, to place a bet that during the next 200 years global temperature will rise is not a bet at all but it is a certainty. However, what makes AGW a hoax is the claim that the CO2 emission from simply breathing and producing energy is responsible for past and especially for the present rise in temperature. </p>
<p>The scientific fact that CO2 levels in the air correlate to the temperature of the air obviously can’t be patented as a new way to measure temperatures. However, reversing the relation and claiming that the increase in temperature is caused by an increase in CO2 can be used as a powerful tool for politicians and social engineers for the exploitation of the scientific illiterate masses. Humans dislike change and prefer the status quo especially if prophets predict a fiery hell on earth. The promise of salvation by being able to slow stop and even reverse the warming is just too appealing. </p>
<p>Too late now. I certainly missed out on the AGW bonanza.  One group, however, still has a chance to profit from the hoax and I advise the following: those with an option to select the time of re-incantation, pick 4800 years from now and make a bet that the temperature will go down, because what goes up must come down, and the models tell us, by then we will be in the down cycle.</p>
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		<title>By: l3lessed</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/123118#comment-1454515</link>
		<dc:creator>l3lessed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 05:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How did this end up on goggle news? This article has no outside sources to backup its argument. Also, the very structure of it is all over the place. My freshmen college students write very similar to this.

You have some good points, so don't short change them with poor writing skills.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How did this end up on goggle news? This article has no outside sources to backup its argument. Also, the very structure of it is all over the place. My freshmen college students write very similar to this.</p>
<p>You have some good points, so don&#8217;t short change them with poor writing skills.</p>
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