Misty made numerous calls to Timmy the night Haleigh went missing, Timmy and Chelsea later split for Mass.

Also, it does seem though, that to call it a false alarm so quickly, they likely found the source in the dumpster? But it is possible…

Donna is one couragous women! I know there are a bunch of loonies but i really do beleive she is sincere and does really beleive what she saw back in June!

I must give credit where it is due, it was ms.p. who mentioned it in an earlier blog.

Thanks, Treece I got your PM.

Polly, you’re very welcomed. I never thought about the carbon monoxide angle.

I figured I’d put this on the latest thread, with the hope someone would comment. I remember seeing this sometime ago and couldn’t figure out why Crystal seems to be a bit angry.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7K6735eHxY&feature=related

I sorta chalked it up to “drugs/medication” back then, although her speech is weird, but she doesn’t seem high. I believe there was an issue of her “hitting” on TJ. If/when did that happen before/after interview?

Just seems very hostile.

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Then you and I are on one accord… I too am listed with the Jr. Amatuer Forensic Researcher’s Society. Howdy, fellow member.

1. She has plans to go score with Cousin Joe and Tommy, so she dopes the kids up with benedryl or something.(Jr. did seem to sleep a lot). Haleigh gets cranked up on it, antihistamines can make some kids hyper, hence she calls Ron to tell him Haleigh won’t go to sleep. Maybe she gives Haleigh a little more.
2. Joe comes by with the van, they load the kids into the back, wrapped up in Misty’s blanket(the blanket that was missing, the reason Misty took one off the window), go and pick up Tommy.
3. They go into where ever they went, leave the kids in the van with motor running as to run the heater. When they come out Haleigh is either deceased due to CO poisoning(great point ms.p.!), deceased due to OD or suffering an asthma attack.
4. They go back to the MH, unload the kids, Jr is half out of it but sees them trying to resuscitate Haleigh. Misty doesn’t want to call 911 fearing possible charges. Haleigh is taken to the dumpster.
5. Cousin Joe helps Misty stage the scene with the backdoor(his MO for breaking and entering)
6. Joe and Tommy realize the dumpster is one of the first places LE will look, so they load Haleigh back into the van. She is still wrapped in the blanket. Murphy’s Creek Conservation Area is conveniently located off of Buffalo Bluff Road. Therefore, Misty knows who took Haleigh, but doesn’t know where she was taken.
7. Tommy is returned to his home and Joe goes back to Timmy’s
8. Misty waits until Ron gets home to stage the 911 call

Just wanting to get caught up on all the latest.. but I have a ?, seeing that the dumpsters are for trash, how long would the lingering scent from a bloody article remain? It seems to me that the scent would be constant!!

Although many of you have pointed out that the perp would have to go thru alot of trouble in reagrds to the dumpster.. maybe that’s what the perp was intending… sorta throw LE off.
Anyhow, I don’t quite have a stand on this particular theory.

But, I thought Cobra ALSO has stated that Ron said Misty didn’t sleep in the bed. I could be wrong, tho!!!

When they sifted through the trash, did they find a bloody bandage? My point being that the dogs hit on several places in the Ant’s backyard but Caylee wasn’t there. I see the possibility that Haleigh may have been placed under or near the dumpster, then the perp thought better of it and moved her.

We have had problems in the past with people coming in here using different names pretending to be someone else causing trouble. The new people in here might not know the rules but the regular posters do and when I catch them that have been warned before about it I delete their comment and sometimes if I am in the mood or if I am finally fed up with their games I ban them. Some try getting back in but when I catch them I repeat my pattern.

I am an Editor here at BNN and moderating the comments is part of my job as I see fit and that is what I am doing.

Unlike you I DO know who made the posts that were deleted and it was by someone who was a regular poster but I will not let her continue coming in here trashing us as she has been just because we don’t happen to agree with her.

Like we tell everyone here, we don’t force you to stay here and read our articles or the other comments in here. If you don’t agree move on to somewhere that they do agree with you. No one here is looking for a fight. In fact most in here are adult enough to discuss a theory or thought even if they completely disagree, which is why I love and admire everyone here. They make me proud to say they are part of BNN.

I don’t know for sure who you are I Care but apparently you know who the poster was and you are standing up for them and that is fine but please don’t come in here asking what is going on just because I am doing my freaking job here.

Now unless you are talking about some other comment I can tell you I have only deleted two comments this morning but to be honest I forgot the name she was using. I handled it as I saw fit.

Have a good day,

Jan Barrett - BNN Editor

“It could be various items, and may not necessarily be something related to the case,” said Brian Selzer, of Canine Search and Rescue as investigators searched through the plastic bags found in the Dumpster.

Selzer explained that the dogs brought to Satsuma on Thursday have been trained to alert only on the scent of human decomposition, not meat or dead animals. He said the dogs could hit on something as small as a bandage used to cover a person’s bloody cut.

http://www.news4jax.com/news/18805304/detail.html

I take the word of the dog handlers/owners to know what their dogs would or would not hit on.

Thank you. That was very nice of you to take the time to say thanks.

Your comment about the poison and Bozo made me LOL! Now we know what he is good for!

I taped it because I was not going to be able to watch it. At least I can fast forward to it. A friend told me Bozo makes his appearance at the end of the show!

I can ASSURE YOU 100% that Draven and Hobbitt are 2 totally different men (Hobbitt of course being an RSO is NOT a man, he is an animal!)… So now that you made a complete ass of yourself for posting crap that you obviously know NOTHING about without checking out your facts first, why don’t you apologize to Draven for insulting him by putting his name and Hobbitt’s name in the same sentence, and then do yourself a favor….move on and talk about something more fit for your intelligence that you have proof of before you speak. Or better yet….why don’t you talk about finding HaLeigh. Just a thought!

What do you want? The radio show to stop and the articles to stop? So we have no way to share our feelings or questions and no place to blog or to keep Haleigh’s name out there?

That’s a great strategy if you want her to be forgotten. When you get a better idea of how to do that, you let us know, okay?

Anyone know when Timmy and Chelsea split for Mass.?

Sorry, Kool Look. First I should not have butted in to your comment to him. And second I probably misunderstood your post. Seems like we’ve had several “invaders” with bad intentions lately. I should not even have dignified his comment with a reply.

Hangnon - do you know if it’s true that Misty called other people before Ron got home and they called 911? Also I thought TN was at the MH very soon after LE arrived (probably not before though). Is that true? And isn’t she the one who called Crystal or someone on that side of the family?

I just think it is common sense. Misty tells LE her and Jr were in the bed sleeping. Hmmm I think LE would have noticed if the bed had not been slept in after Misty telling them that. They also questioned Jr, do you not think that LE asked Jr where he was sleeping?

M2c, I was talking to Steve, not really confirming his post, just making a generalization concerning any poster in this case, as it has been abused horribly by internet posters, hope this clears up my thoughts better, sorry.

If any one is interested, Jose Baez, Casey Anthony’s attorney, is SUPPOSE to be a guest of Geraldo at Large on the Fox News Network tonight at 9 p.m. CST. Check your local listings.

Kool Look - I didn’t hear a retraction from Tim on that comment but I just figured he didn’t exactly mean it that way. Maybe it was said in the heat of the moment (I think he’d just helped search for Somer right after she went missing which is when there’s the greatest chance of finding someone alive). Maybe that’s the source of confusion.
Also, Kool Look, I think what Steve said above was horrible slander. Even just with screen names, spreading that kind of rumor is despicable. How would he(?) like it if I went around saying that Steve is Hobbit? (or maybe I misunderstood your post about that?)

When TES came in they have a variety of dogs.

Cousin Joe was staying with Timmy and Chelsea in Crescent City and may have been going back and forth to Daytona visiting other family there

Sorry I missed the radio show, I had a death in the family, house full of fellowship, and the break from the case was actually peaceful. Back to the business of caring for Haleigh. I too, like many here, would love for that Christmas miracle, could it be? I’m really feeling something special will come concerning here.

Great posts everyone, keep us informed, trying not to clog up with posts, to keep the info flowing.

Wonder if Lawshrink, the radio show, anyone has anything new to add?

Also, when TES was in the area and dogs were first in the area none hit on the dumpster. The dumpster at that time was almost empty and Hardy said it was searched, not emptied because it was not full enough to need to empty it.

You’ll find it at crimesearchersonline.com
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Why I think Haleigh’s alive.

ALthough it does not center on Crystal’s side of the family, but a whole different group of people, it could still work for Crystal’s side.

Antihistamines will make a kid hyper, too.

Tommy and Lindsey had/have a trampoline?

I personally do not think Crystal was aware of anything regarding HaLeigh’s disappearance. I do think there are family members that would have/could have pulled it off. I also think that Crystal may now be aware of what happened. There is a lot of motive on that side of the family, regardless of what LE wants people to think.

I think all of them, every blasted one, on both sides of the family, all of the Croslins, all of the friends, all of the neighbors, the flipping mail man, AC man, and anybody else who had any contact with HaLeigh should be asked to take a LDT. If they refuse, investigate the hell out of them. AND that includes all RSO’s in the area. RSO’s are known to have friends visiting that LE may not be aware of, as in the Jessie L case.

NO STONE UNTURNED. This baby did not just vanish into thin air. She is somewhere and somebody knows where she is.

Most of us accept people as they present themselves to us here. So to me Steve’s left a bad impression with me already.

There are always dogs barking in the neighborhood. I think you can go into court docs and see that the Croslins had a couple of charges for barking dogs. Not unusual in rural areas for there to be a lot of the residents to have outdoor dogs.

I think if somebody needed to hide a body until they went and got a vehicle, there were plenty of much easier places to do so. There are plenty of woods around.

I just can’t see anybody taking the time and energy to get a body into a locked, enclosed area, put it in the dumpster, take the body out of the dumpster, and then back out of an enclosed area (they would have to climb into the dumpster to do so), and into a vehicle. Easier to hide the body in the woods if they had to go get a vehicle.

How much further would the case be had there not been the circus, the lies, the defamation, the energy put on destroying a man rather then the energy to stand together, united, to find a missing child?

I completely blame Crystal. As HaLeigh’s mother it was her place to keep the focus on finding HaLeigh and if that meant standing next to Ron and the family as a united front then that is what she should have done, just as Marc Klaas told her. Keep the focus on finding HaLeigh.

That is the bottom line. Who does THAT make the stupid one???

See what I mean. Only a few people really know what Jr said he saw that night, most of them are LE.

If the children were home and Tommy DID bang on the door as he described to LE the children would have been woken up, regardless if Misty was home or not.

If Misty was at a party with Nay Nay and Greg and even if the children were in the car/van sleeping, then Nay Nay would not have a “true” alibi and neither her nor Greg would have passed the LDT.

So if Misty was at a party as Joe P says then unlikely she was there with Nay Nay and Greg. So who would she be with? At that point and time she had few friends. She mostly hung out with family and Nay Nay when she and Ron were arguing.

LE should have really focused on family members and Nay Nay if they believe that Misty was not home that night.

We are into the 10th month and nothing. Nobody proving Misty was not home. No proof Misty had people over. No proof that HaLeigh was hurt in the home or elsewhere.

Maybe it is time to start looking at other possibilities. Maybe it is time to figure out if Misty was home sleeping, and the children were also sleeping, who would have/could have entered the home and taken that baby.

leaving the kids home does make more sense. maybe she only meant to be out a short time and thought they would be all right.

i remeber mlee pointing out that all keys were accounted for. but, i have wondered if either ron or misty set keys down somewhere and someone they spent time with took and copied house key and put their originals back. maybe on misty’s weekend someone went through purse or she set keys down while partying. someone might have been planning on robbing m.h. for guns or money, at some point. maybe they saw misty go to sleep. and maybe from parting or using drugs she was out like a light. or they say she sleeps soundly.

my thought is, if misty took the kids out that night maybe it was in a friends car or van. she would have taken them out after sleeping. hoping they would stay asleep in the car. (maybe with the help of an antihistamine or something else.) she might have left them in vehicle with the intention of checking on them. or maybe was only planning on spending a short time there to maybe meet up with someone. something could have happened to haleigh when misty was inside the house. i even wondered if they left vehicle run to keep kids warm and a carbon monoxide issue happened to haleigh depending on where she was sleeping in vehicle.

it might explain blanket issues. covered the kids up to keep warm. and something happened to haleigh and she wet the blanket. maybe the misty blanket (if it is missing) was disposed of with haleigh by wrapping her up in it. maybe misty brought haleigh’s own blanket back so she would not have to explain why it too was missing. had to wash it that night. this all might explain why the blanket needed washing but not sheets and bed.

i don’t know if this is plausible just a possible explanation of people saying she had them at a party. did anyone say that she actually brought them into the house?

might also explain junior’s story. maybe he was half asleep and dreaming in the vehicle. maybe someone was in the vehicle that he heard one of the seats bouncing? someone moving around. well just some thoughts.

While some may believe Joe’s party story we must remember he has been arrested for fraud before. Both Nay Nay and Greg were questioned by LE early on about HaLeigh’s disappearance and both given LDT according to them. Nay Nay’s baby’s daddy also was questioned and said that Nay Nay was with him that day just as Nay Nay stated.

So yes they could all be lying to LE but given that nothing was found after draining the pond, given that Nay Nay has an alibi, given that Nay Nay and Greg were questioned and given LDT, I would surmise that Joe P’s info to LE was not credible.

Jr is a very smart little boy. He was very much able to speak. If Misty took the children to a party Jr would have told, especially if they came home without his sissy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7K6735eHxY&feature=related

I sorta chalked it up to “drugs/medication” back then, although her speech is weird, but she doesn’t seem high. I believe there was an issue of her “hitting” on TJ. If/when did that happen before/after interview?

Just seems very hostile.

And, yes, Steve. I imagine that Hobbit could still be posting using another screen name which could be “Steve” for all we know (no offense! ) Hobbit was on lots of blogs before he created his own -Hearts for Haleigh - but I don’t know what you are getting at by bringing in those other screen names.

JR was on national TV at the prayer vigil on Feb 12, 2009. He knew the Sheffields well before the March 13th he claims in his statement to the bar for Kim Picazio. WHY THE LIES?

Enough already, where is Haleigh Ann-Marie Cummings?

Please bring this precious baby girl home safe and sound.