Although I don’t “know” you, I think you are one of the “goodies” here. I got upset last night when I saw how someone decided to become *20*cents in the middle of 2cents posting. I know it was to start trouble and it was a cowards act.

I guess I wasn’t off base… they did believe that all the “cents” were one in the same!!!

M2c its not common for you to talk like that either so alot of us knew it wasnt you at all. I havent found you that disrespectful at all. We may not agree on alot of stuff but i never thought you to be disrespectful.

Has anyone else heard about about the little girl from north carolina they are looking for her body. Its a sad thing her mother has been charged with alot of charges.

The bible says, “If thine eye offend thee pluck it out.” Translation. Get off this blog! You will feel better immediately! And if you don’t care what the bible says, it’s just common sense (please re-read my comments about some of those with Phds!)

I am ONLY m2c.

And, inane, I know a LOT of people with PhD’s who are really just stupid. No common sense. It’s easy to get a PhD. It’s not really easy to actually be creative or to THINK! I mean look at you claiming to be actively searching! Where and why there? You bash us for discussing what may have happened to Haleigh and who might be responsible at the same time you (supposedly) are out investigating shrubbery! ROFLMAO! Or garbage or diving with the gators. I don’t know. But it makes as much or less sense than our discussions. So put on some more mosquito spray and get back out there! And please remember that not all gators go “Tick Tock Tick Tock” like the one in Peter Pan! LOL! (falling off chair).
Signed: m2c (for real)

Iaanne… don’t see how I was defending anyone, and even if I chose to do so, I can. Just as you pointed out, it is a blog so I CAN voice my opinion.

Talk about someone getting a life!!!!!

*** I STAND BEHIND MY 1:54 POST***

Not at 2cents or m2c

This is just what I was talking about… someone being a coward and trying to confuse and start fights with people on here.

Iaanne…. I have a life.. a very good life!!
You seem to think that 2cents and m2c and myself are the same person. we are NOT.

But are you 20cents??

Crack makes people do stupid things, even sell children to get money….I sure hope LE have looked closely at Crystal, Chad and their drug connections and I hope DCF is keeping a close eye on them. I hope LE informed DCF that they found crack at the house and that LE are making sure that Chloe, Jr. and Chad’s 2 children are safe.

I appreciate Jan & Simon’s truthful and unbiased coverage of the case. And no one has the “right” to tell me I can’t say that!

I usually refrain from making a comment on posters that jump around and use misleading names to start a bunch of bullshit. But I find you and anyone else that does that, to be nothing more than damn cowards.

I suspect that you think it’s cute and funny to behave in such a juvenile manner. Well, you are NOT… not even a bit amusing.

You sir/madam are an ASSHOLE !!!!

It seems some of you will do anything to try to divert attention away from Crystal & her family and attack anyone that even suggests Crystal’s family may be involved…..hmmmmm.

Some people on the Internet have lost their direction – completely. Who stole whose photos, or called the other one a name, or impersonated someone else, is IRRELEVANT when you think of whatever pain or fear Haleigh must have felt in those final moments. I think of that all the time. Haleigh’s final moments. Was she conscious, was she hurt, crying, cold, fighting back, struggling to live?”

Think about

Even to the bloggers we may not agree on things but one thing we do agree on is finding Haleigh and that is important. Thank you for those that do love this precious little girl and all the other missing children.

No one is forcing you to come read here. No one is forcing you to leave a comment here.

So if you have any issues then keep steppin’.

We will continue with or without you.

You are wrong:

Florida Bar Rules:

RULE 3-7.1 CONFIDENTIALITY

(4) No Probable Cause Cases. Any disciplinary case that has been concluded by a finding of no probable cause for further disciplinary proceedings shall be public information.

http://www.floridabar.org/divexe/rrtfb.nsf/FV/787D8C1A8C818A5785256BC00066D24A

RULE 3-7.3 REVIEW OF INQUIRIES, COMPLAINT PROCESSING, AND INITIAL INVESTIGATORY PROCEDURES

(g) Information Concerning Closed Inquiries and Complaints Dismissed by Staff. When bar counsel does not pursue an inquiry or dismisses a disciplinary case, such action shall be deemed a finding of no probable cause for further disciplinary proceedings and the matter shall become public information.

http://www.floridabar.org/divexe/rrtfb.nsf/FV/787D8C1A8C818A5785256BC00066D24A

AND YOU DON’T THINK SHE CONFERRED WITH THE BAR TO CHECK UP ON THIS? GMAB?

This is the risk that all client’s face in filing a Bar Grievance. The lawyer is able to spill it, to defend themselves. If the client loses, the cat is out of the bag. I called the Bar on Friday to ask for a copy of the file, too. I asked if the lawyer was allowed to speak about the matters involved in the Bar Grievance. They chuckled, and said, yes. Unless the file is sealed, which this one was not.

So there it is. In hindsight, KP said alot LESS than she could have. Surprisingly.

I am very disappointed, and those reading these words will know who I am addressing, even those that don’t know me, you’ll know in your soul.

True crime sleuthers, followers, who care about these missing people, look to the net for information, not the mis-deeds of those involved, getting involved causing everything to be un-trustworthy. Posters have been attacked un-mercifully, and the actions of those have caused it.

Simon and Jan, keep pushing and looking with integrity, keeping everything out in the open, question what needs questioning without attacking as I’ve seen so far at this site. Keep the boards and articles open for real discussion and communication.

Paws69, your questions are mine also. I don’t want to see anyone bashed, even Kim, I just want answers and I want people to be of integrity if their involved, we’re talking about a missing babe, and if you have information, report it to the Florida Department of Law Enforcement, FBI, Mark Klaas foundation or John Walsh’s AMW. Put it in responsible caring hands who will see the information through the proper channels.

Unfortunately, I couldn’t add Putnam County Sheriff’s office to the list.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/ethics/fl/code/FL_CODE.HTM#Rule_4-1.6%28a%29

The part that I think is the most interesting of this is section

Rule 4-1.6 Confidentiality of Information

Personally I would say to read that whole section but the part that most pertains in this case is this. Especially now.

Rule 4-1.9 Conflict of Interest: Former Client

A lawyer who has formerly represented a client in a matter shall not thereafter:

(a) represent another person in the same or a substantially related matter in which that person’s interests are materially adverse to the interests of the former client unless the former client consents after consultation; or

(b) use information relating to the representation to the disadvantage of the former client except as rule 4-1.6 would permit with respect to a client or when the information has become generally known. For purposes of this rule, “generally known” shall mean information of the type that a reasonably prudent lawyer would obtain from public records or through authorized processes for discovery of evidence.

And then this:

Rule 4-1.16 Declining or Terminating Representation

(d) Protection of Client’s Interest.

Upon termination of representation, a lawyer shall take steps to the extent reasonably practicable to protect a client’s interest, such as giving reasonable notice to the client, allowing time for employment of other counsel, surrendering papers and property to which the client is entitled, and refunding any advance payment of fee that has not been earned. The lawyer may retain papers and other property relating to or belonging to the client to the extent permitted by law.

One other point that I would bring up, well two points actually, is if Crystal or Marie either one received a bill for the services of KP then she can, by her own admission, be charged with Mail Fraud, which is a Federal Charge. Tom Cruise did a movie titled “The Firm” that was based on a Grisham book by the same name that goes into detail how that one works.

Secondly, I am still looking for the laws or procedures that state that any complaint with the bar is a matter of public record, because if it isn’t, and I do suspect that to be the case, KP again hung herself with her phone interview with TJ Hart.

http://www.floridabar.org/TFB/TFBConsum.nsf/48e76203493b82ad852567090070c9b9/c5b7d247a0c9c45a85256b2f006c6186?OpenDocument#A%20WORD%20ABOUT%20CONFIDENTIALITY%20AND

A WORD ABOUT CONFIDENTIALITY AND IMMUNITY
The rules of the Supreme Court of Florida require the Bar (staff, investigators, and grievance committee members) to treat inquiries and complaints pending with Bar counsel and grievance committees as confidential matters. You, the lawyer who is subject of the inquiry or complaint, witnesses and other third parties are not required to treat those inquiries and complaints as confidential matters.

However, disclosure of the existence of an inquiry or complaint and the contents thereof outside of the disciplinary system may provide a basis for legal action. If however, you limit your inquiry and communication about it to Bar staff, investigators and grievance committee members; you should not be successfully sued.

While, generally, you cannot be successfully sued if you do not act in bad faith or with malice, we emphasize successfully. The Bar cannot guarantee that the lawyer will not attempt to bring legal action against you.

There are things you can do to minimize the chance that you will be sued. You should not threaten the lawyer with a disciplinary inquiry or complaint, civil action, or criminal prosecution.

If you believe any such action should be undertaken you should seek advice of another lawyer, before you write a demand letter.

While you have the right to talk to anyone you want about your Bar inquiry/complaint, you should consider not talking to anyone other than Bar staff, investigators, and grievance committee members, or your new lawyer, until the case is closed or until the matter is decided by a grievance committee and further proceedings are undertaken.

At that point, the matter becomes public information and a part of the file defined as the public record that is available to anyone who wishes to see it.

We understand that if you make an inquiry about a lawyer’s conduct you feel strongly about the situation in question. Our responsibility is to undertake an appropriate investigation and develop pertinent facts and evidence.

By treating all persons involved in the process in a calm, objective and professional fashion, you assist us in resolving the matter more quickly.

JJ, according to you, BNN should not use Haleigh’s name unless the article has solid new information, evidence, etc. Well in case you haven’t noticed there hasn’t been any of that for many months. So, according to you, Haleigh should be forgotten? I guess so.
Or are you with another site that is jealous of BNN?
Haleigh’s name and face would have been forgotten by now if it was up to you, her family, and her local LE.
I don’t know what you call gossip anyway. The complaint against KP was fact. The Bar letter fact. Simon’s info about what KP said on the radio show long ago is fact. KP’s email - well who knows but it was her perspective.
All of it is good for us to know so we can understand what was REALLY going on back then and learn some TRUTH about some of the people closest to Haleigh (like her bio-mom).
That info COULD help find out what happened to her.
And as far as LLPapa is concerned. If that email is floating around out there and lands here - I’m just as glad because HERE LLPapa can reply and stand up for himself.
Sorry to disappoint, JJ. But no matter what the “news” is or isn’t we are going to STAY HERE FOR HALEIGH. If you don’t want to then fine. We can do it quite well without you.

Associating Haleigh’s name with this crap is wrong.

Simon has posted more than a dozen times using Haleigh’s name in the title of posts that he wrote derogatory insinuations about other people.

He’s trying to inflame people to post insults about people, and he’s using Haleigh’s name to do it.

Obviously, Jan and Simon Barrett want it read by as many people as possible, otherwise they would have removed it.

Jan posted her reason for not removing it was because it had already been read -

Yeah, right. Jan, you’re full of BS.

You and Simon put to mind devious, malicious gossipers. Used to be, you spent your days blabbing this and that about people over the phone, now you do it on the internet and through email.

Really disturbing that you use the name of a missing child to make it appear your intentions are different than they are.

Can’t get any lower than that.

Mr. Editor, did you by chance write someone an email yesterday telling them that you were only using Kim P as a conduit to get to a larger filthier story line? Was this private email between two friends your big scoop? Did it fall flat when you realized everyone already knew that Concerned Papa had a who cares drug charge decades ago? You thought he was an SO, but he isn’t! hahahahaha!

Ooooweeee! If people only knew what YOU write in your private emails setting up these dirty little schemes - wow - I think they’d demand a Dirty Pool Part IV to be written on YOU Mr. Editor!

Mr. Editor, wasn’t it YOU, just yesterday, who sent Kim P a third party message wherein you vowed to scar her reputation if she didn’t lay off you in the comments on this story line? You have to threaten an attorney through her friends to keep the stink off you? Oh Boy, Mr. Editor! I wonder what Rob Hayes is going to think of your threats to a member of the Bar with the “big time reputation” that you threatened to hurt? You wanted her to be reminded to keep off your radar? Hmmm. Isn’t Rob your boss, Mr. Editor?

I think this disgusting display of a breach of privacy was a set up by you, Mr. Editor! That email you wrote yesterday has been passed through the chains all day, and now some more are circulating to boot! You are so naughty Mr. Editor! And now, unfortunately, you’re in deep doodoo, too!

To allow private communications between two friends to remain here on this board is quite ballsy…that is…unless YOU were the one to make sure they were posted! Your boss needs to stop playing those video games, and pay attention to his Editor who is inviting potential lawsuits by his narcissistic arrogance. You can’t threaten an attorney to shut her mouth or you’re going to ruin her, my silly Mr. Editor! Dirty Pool - Ha! - that’s you, Mr. Editor! More to Come! Harumph!

I don’t understand the point of that email being posted here.

I saw nothing in it other than the fact most of us misread the top part of it.

Other than that, the letter seems pointless to show.

One thing you posted above that I’m going to have to correct you on my friend. I am done with this issue. I know I didn’t do anything wrong and don’t believe that KP did either in her communication with me.

I wish all of you the best.

Who is Dirty pool?
Who is this pedophile they speak of?
And what does any/all of this have to do with Haleigh missing?
How/Did any of these actions affect the efforts of finding the truth about Haleigh?

Who is Dirty pool anyways?

In all honesty, I’m not too concerned about their battles. She’s a big girl and he’s a big boy. They apparently have worked out their differences on their own. It was as big a shock to me as anyone to see the post from her to him about working together again. We all know they have a history between them. Bear in mind that the e-mail to me was the same date of her post here at BNN, I believe.

No words I can post are going to change any one’s opinion of her or anyone else for that matter. I see her involvement in this case as being an effort to bolster the image of her client. I have never seen one word that she ever wrote or said that was any less than an aggressive defense of her client until she had to defend herself to the FL Bar Association.

As to her communicating with me or any other blogger, what’s supposed to be wrong with that? Enhancing her client’s image to the public was her job. The Internet is a bigger medium by far than Nancy Grace. I have EVERY e-mail ever exchanged between us. The FL Bar is welcome to any or all of them. She NEVER spoke a derogatory word about her client or her family. She NEVER divulged any attorney/client privileged information to me.

Since your opening sentence says I used a “whole bunch” of you and “lied” to you, don’t just sing it, BRING IT. Show this forum any lies I have ever posted or any way I “used” any of you.

I don’t know about the rest of the folks here, but I want to see it.

Jan, thank you for your post at 6:57. Although we have had our differences, I have come to respect yours and Simon’s perseverance in this case. Perhaps Simon is right in that it’s time to let go of the past and get on with finding Haleigh.

m2c my old friend, thank you as well for your kind words of belief in who I am. It seems like a long, long time ago that we were getting the information together to send to Det. Allen about the duct tape in the Caylee Anthony case doesn’t it? I wonder how many even knew that BNN’s forum played a role in this aspect of the case?

PAW69 it’s been a long time friend. Keep up the fight. It’s a long journey we’ve been walking together and we’re not there yet.

Noreen my friend from AH, I knew when I saw the e-mail posted with KP’s defense of Jeremiah Regan that would get you going, LOL. Although we don’t necessarily agree on many aspects of this case, I have always admired the steadfast belief that you have that Haleigh may be alive. I’ve told you before that I truly hope you are right and I am wrong.

“Dirty Pool”, tsk, tsk, tsk. What exactly were you trying to accomplish with your “big deal” post? The fact that Ole Papa’s a convicted felon? I hate to break it to you, but I “outed” myself a long time ago in posts at more than one site. I paid the price that society demanded for my crime and I’ll be damned if a nameless “Dirty” something or another is a big concern for me. Besides probably more than one post here at BNN alluding to that part of my past, go to:

websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3816254&postcount=171

The point is, I know who I am. The only thing I’m trying to understand is what are you?

As to the contents of the e-mail that you copy/pasted from a brief posting in a private forum, have you even bothered to read it? If you were, in fact, a part of the baseless accusation against KP to the Florida Bar Association, it’s no wonder she was completely vindicated.

-Do you see one single negative word about her client? NO you don’t.

-Do you see ANY confidential attorney/client privileged information in the e-mail? NO you don’t.

What you see is frustration about being kicked and having to endure all of the lies.

As to your nefarious inference of my being a moderator at the site where it was recently revealed that the operator was a RSO, my account was deleted less than 5 minutes after I became aware of the validity of the claim. I was a moderator at that site, what, two weeks?

LOL, if I’m correct as to who you are or at least who your hero likely is, I wasn’t alone at that site as a moderator was I?

In closing, since you seem fond of posting Kim Picazio’s words to me, let me give you a few from a couple of weeks ago:

“Some people on the Internet have lost their direction – completely. Who stole whose photos, or called the other one a name, or impersonated someone else, is IRRELEVANT when you think of whatever pain or fear Haleigh must have felt in those final moments. I think of that all the time. Haleigh’s final moments. Was she conscious, was she hurt, crying, cold, fighting back, struggling to live?”

Think about it. You and I aren’t important. This little girl is the only thing that matters in this case.

I agree on the matter we were discussing earlier in the day. Some of our old friends may have joined us.

I have exchanged a post with Polly a little while ago. We were talking about little Shaniya’s kidnapping.

“my son is now creating a facebook page for me under a fake name”

Now, do we all look for JERICO on facebook

And “Dirty Pool,” please see my 5:34 pm post.

So much drama, so many lies, so much BS, so many clowns, so many people using an innocent missing child for their own agendas.

Noreen, it is good to see you back around. I am with you. HaLeigh is alive, somewhere, and needs to be brought home.

LE need to interview Johnny (Marty) Sheffield, Sarah Sheffield, and the Regan duo. Also Johnny’s mother-in-law, she claims to have ‘one hellava story to tell’, she wants big money for it though, as she’ll have to disappear once she’s told her story. Why haven’t LE pounced on Ruby to find out what she does know?

Poor Cobra, his friend KP is gonna stab him in the back again!

Hi Vaq!!!! Great to be back, good to see you too.

I believe Haleigh is alive, it’s time to bring her home.

Dirty Pool said -

Why is she exchanging emails with a convicted felon who was a moderator at a board run by a pedophile?==============================================

Although I don’t know much about Papa but I doubt seriously if he is a sex offender but that is not what this comment is saying. He is however saying that KP was exchanging emails with a convicted felon that WAS a moderator at a board that was run by a pedophile. Now once again to me this sounds like Dirty Pool is calling Papa a convicted felon.

I don’t know how Dirty Pool got their hands on this email but I want it clear right now, we had nothing to do with it. I will NOT agree with the email as far as calling Papa a convicted felon either as I do not know anything about this.

I ask that no one jump to conclusions on this unless it can be proved. I am not going to remove the comment since everyone has seen it by now but even though Papa is NOT a fan of BNN’s anymore I would rather rumors as such not be spread from in here unless someone can prove it.

Thanks everyone. Have a great night

Jan Barrett

IT’S BEYOND ME THAT MONTHS AFTER KIM PICAZIO IS TO BE OUT OF THE PICTURE SHE IS STILL BEING VINDICTIVE AND SOOOO WILLING TO RUIN HER REP.BCUZ OF HURT FEELINGS.OMG KIM LICK YA WOUND GROW UP AND MOVE PAST THIS.THIS IS SO PATHETIC AN ATTY.WITH SOOOOO MUCH YET SOOOOO LITTLE.A LIAR WILL NEVER PROSPER AND THAT WAS PROVEN ON NANCY GRACE WHEN K.P. HAD THE DICK LOOK AS HER ALLEGATIONS OF RONS ABUSE WERE DISCREDITED.IMO TAKE THE LADY OUTTA THE TRASH BUT CAN’T TAKE THE TRASH OUTTA THE LADY.A SH-T STARTER WILL ALWAYS START SH-T AS ONES DO….DO DIRT U GET DIRT.NOW CAN WE FOCUS ON HALEIGH????

I GUESS KIM IS A DEMONIC FORCE TO BE RECKON WITH.

Talk like that about him better stop now.
LLPapa may have posted at Hobbit’s board but lots of people did not know Hobbit’s secret.