“I do find it hard to believe Ron would do anything in front of Tim since Tim seems to report alot of what is said to him.”

But then you said,

“But, Tim does seem to be after Misty right now, not Ron, so Ron may see him as an ally.”

Then, the next thing you hear is, TM is setting Misty up with (horrors) an older friend who might be able to influence her as a mother would? Do you think he sees TM as an ally?

Are you saying that Ron is (or at this point, was) NOT ga-ga over Misty? (The “keep your enemies closer” garbage? (In my opinion .)

Try proceeding from the assumption that Ron WAS aware that TM would report what he said. Also that maybe it was important to him to appear ga-ga over Misty?

And if at the same time, doubt could be cast upn Mr. Miller’s credibility? Maybe he wants TM to think that Misty’s life is in danger. But it isn’t, because she’s eating out of his hand like he’s her savior. I would wager, no more binges. I think that’s the point. My opinion, of course.

I saw someone operate in such a way over quite a few years. Her entire family thought she was a saint. The trouble went on and on and on. And there she was, the eye of the hurricane. So maybe I have my antennae out for such things, and people are welcome to believe that, and can take everything I say with a grain or a box of salt as they choose.

Did you watch the video news report about the wedding? I got the impression that this was a man who would never marry anybody unless his back was against the wall and he had no choice. “Dragged to the altar just short of kicking and screaming” was the phrase that came to my mind. Anybody out there want to find the Florida Code Section that pertains to statutory rape? I couldn’t find it (yet). So, in the interests of FACTS, maybe someone could do that? I am not real good with the internet.

I do know that if a man tells you that if you leave him he will commit suicide, it is probably time to run for the hills. (See yesterday’s blogs.) It is, from what I understand, more likely that a person making such a threat is too selfish to actually do it. It is often (not always) psychological BATTERY, usually aimed at a person who is basically, unselfish and generous, or at least vastly more mature than they are. But Misty has a different psychological makeup from Crystal, and would react differently to such a situation. People should take psychology. And find out what the term “control freak” really means. Then see if the shoe fits.

All my opinion, of course.

Searching01 said,in October 15th, 2009 at 4:43 pm Emma, no I am not naive, I do how ever like to look at things from several different angles and give people the benefit of the doubt/opportunity to redeem themselves. You apparently missed the part in another post where I stated I had not been a fan of KP’s, how ever, I am seeing a pattern of misinformation from bloggers as well as media and therefor refused to rush to judgments about people at this time, I did that in the beginning when it came to KP due to what I was reading online and it got me no where. I would rather sit back and see where this goes.

I have been reading about TES for years now and have also been wondering why TM suddenly decided to get so deeply involved with this particular case. I have never head of him becoming this involved in a case. I wondered at the start if his team found out some inside information at the beginning, possibly from LE which led them to believe, or know, that Misty and possibly Ron killed Haleigh, and because TM cares so much for the missing, he has made his duty to uncover their lies. Other than that, I can not understand his devotion to this particular missing child case. As for Misty, I think she knows something, but how she has managed to keep it together and not tell when she clearly is an immature 17 year old is beyond me. I also think Ron knows what happened, I have never thought he didn’t. He seems to involved in the circus surrounding the case rather than the case itself. If my child were missing I would handle myself extremely differently. His behavior is violent and controlling, which is never good for a child in a home with someone like that. I don’t think anyone is hiding her from her mother’s family, I just don’t think her mother cares enough to put forth much effort to find her. As for the gun incident, whether or not it really happened, I just don’t know. I do find it hard to believe Ron would do anything in front of Tim since Tim seems to report alot of what is said to him, but, Tim does seem to be after Misty right now, not Ron, so Ron may see him as an ally, which may be why he feels it is okay to express himself in front of him (or show off his temper). And people who behave that way will do so in front of a child without even thinking of it. That child needs to be removed from that atmosphere, the whole family is messed up and he is witnessing so much right now that he doesn’t stand much of a chance in his life of getting past all this.

Sally said,in October 14th, 2009 at 1:42 pm I see Mlee hasn’t cited her source. Thought so.

Okay, J, I located one of the sources that says that Ronald is the father of Amber’s son. It was an article on Art Harris’ website. Isn’t he supposed to be reputable?

Hahahahahahahahahaha, sorry Althea, NO Art the Bald Faced Liar is not reputable. Amber said that she did not want a paternity test and did not want Child Support from Ron because she wanted nothing to do with him, yet her mother Lisa assaulted Misty for taking her daughter’s “man”. Look at the kind of life Amber Brooks lives and ask yourself if you feel she is a monogomous person. Now ask yourself if you truely believe Jordan is Ronalds son…

If we need information to find HaLeigh and protect her brother, Ron and Misty can provide it, not their mothere. You are naive obviously to a fault.

Searching01 said,in October 15th, 2009 at 9:02 am Someone said they were going to wait to see what Kim is going to do. Kim is bound by privilege even though Crystal is no longer her client. I do think she is trying to do what she started out trying to do,protect the smallest victims. I hope I am not wrong on that, really, because someone needs to end that cycle and the circus that has enveloped this case needs to be shut down. Kim knows what she knows about this case but she can not tell us. I just hope a way can be found to get any information that will help find Haleigh to someone else.

It is quite possible that her health issues interfere with her coping skills and her lawyer took one look at her and the situation and thought this girl simply didn’t realize how bad the situation was. Of course, there are unethical opportunistic lawyers. I don’t know the lawyer in question, but I’ll bet a lot of lawyers would have thought there was more to it than met Crystal’s eyes. Look at the shape she’s in.

KP certainly seemed, on the Nancy Grace show, to be convinced of the case she was presenting with the pictures of the bruises. It looked to me like the evidence could be interpreted more than one way without the assistance of an expert. (Then we get into the issue of experts.) This is a perfect example of the problems with this case.

I don’t see that Crystal went in for overkill on Ron, which a conniving-type woman would have taken advantage of the situation to do.

Then we have reports from different ex’s of Ronalds that seem pretty consistent in the way they draw a picture of a man with a precarious temper. What are the odds these girls are getting together and plotting to say bad things about him? It just doesn’t seem very likely to me.

I see Cobra never found his crayon. Probably best he waits until he has graduated from elementary school games on up to adult communication. Either you have something to say or you don’t. It seems obvious to me that he just spouts off whatever he feels like and his little ‘riddles’ are just his way of not being responsible for what he says. Kind of like he ‘technically’ wasn’t working for KP or Crystal. I believe nothing he says after the complete 360 on KP yesterday. Not to mention the fact that he is throwing the bail bonds industry (his own industry) under the bus to save his ass. Simon, I would distance myself if I were you, you could be the next one under the bus! Who knows anymore.

Anyway, new article, new thread. Lets clean the slate and start the day anew. C ya there.

Case Closed Inc. said,
in October 14th, 2009 at 5:54 pm

STORY TO FOLLOW SOON..I’LL TELL YA ONCE I FIND MY CRAYON….LOL

I think Cobra has had the best intentions for Haleigh and am giving him the benefit of the doubt on this and hope you will too, at least, until you hear him out. KP coming back in the picture shocked us all because of the way they seemed to have parted ways. My impression, from the riddles and blogs they have posted, is that they are coming together on Cobra’s legal situation and the corruption issue not to look for Haleigh. I could be wrong, but I don’t think they were getting back involved with the Haleigh case. I don’t think Cobra would be allowed to until his issue is resolved. But I could to totally wrong here, just the way I “heard” it. Not willing to throw in the towel on Cobra. Want him to get turned loose, freed from PC and be able to move on. Just food for thought until we find out more facts. Treece

MissingKy - Are you asking me if I am serious? I’m not sure who that question was directed to.

And where did I state whe was?? I questioned it. Learn to read before you start blogging. If your blood pressure rises when you come here, why would you come here?? Take up sewing……less stress

I like to stick to sites - news and blogs - that at least try to get it right - and try to be clear about it.

I think those of us who really care about children could take a look at the budgets for those agencies in our own areas and email our state representatives to let them know that we believe “children must come first” when the money’s being handed out (or reduced).

http://incoldblogger.blogspot.com/2009/10/haleigh-cummings-case-liars-scumbags.html
True Crime - In Cold Blog 10-8-09

“The Haleigh Cummings Case: Liars, Scumbags and Nancy Grace” by Chuck Hustmyre

I can not stand Crystal Sheffield and I do not think she would make a suitable home for a child, but if you really look at this case with open eyes you will only see that Ronald Cummings is a violent and dangerous man.

If you can not see that then you are blinded by some misguided loyalty or sickness and you need some intense therapy. Get real people!

This is about HaLeigh and nothing else. For those who are dug in so deep by taking sides and wanting to be right-grow up!

You do not get ordered to pay child support on a child that is not “legally” yours. So no, Ron is not in trouble for being behind on child support for Amber’s child. That is not even a rumor, it’s a lie.

And Ron was not being called to court for HaLeigh’s absences. He told Crystal that HaLeigh cannot miss anymore school or he could get into trouble. That’s a big difference from already being called into court.

Ron was not in any legal trouble when HaLeigh went missing. Her going missing did NOT “evaporate” legal issues for Ron as you have suggested. If anything, it has created a world of trouble for him, in addition to his child being missing. I’m sure he’d do anything to have his baby back.

Also read somewhere that he was behind on Child support to Amber. Please, enlighten me if I’m wrong.

i would like to say karon cox always lends something to the conversation for me to think about. and i think she has posted some good points here tonight - personal or not. personally agree with EVERYONE A LITTLE BIT. ohhh my head. maybe i should change my moniker to ms. sitting on the fence or ms. can’t make up her mind. ugh! how about ms. annoying?

oh i have a lot of ding ding dings about alot of things about this case and the people involved. since we are mostly anonymous some are here to deliberately mess the conversation up. it did get sensitive (feelings) and personal tonight! i think everyone is taking this all personal if you ask me.

i keep flip flopping on what i think about the main players. i keep flip flopping on the job that le is doing. i do hear cobra and t.j. saying the police really care. they (cobra and t.j.) seem to be sincere and not saying this because they have to. although cobra has mentioned the politics of the sheriffs office. i hope we can learn more about what all that is about soon. probably when cobra’s case is settled (hopefully fairly.)

haleigh you and your loved ones are in my heart!

good night and my best wishes to everyone

oops forgot the topic of thread, if people really thought someone was is in danger, yes they should call and ask the police about it.
whether it was ronald jr. or ronald sr. or anyone. it is better to err on the side of caution. it is then up to the authorities to decide if the concern is credible. especially when a family has been so traumatized like this one, it is really possible ron is not coping well and those closest to him may not realize it.

Crystal is the only person that had legal problems when Haleigh vanished. She was potentially going to be jailed b/c she had not paid child support in over 3 years. She knew she could go to jail for not paying, her father was jailed for the exact same thing.

I think Amber had means, and lots of motive, and opportunity. What is her alibi for that night? Also her mother, Lisa Brooks, who conveniently left town to VA.

And then there is Chad Griffis who was out all that night. Motive could be he was afraid of Crystal going to jail and all the money that would have to be paid out like bonds, court costs, and 12,000+ in back support.

Those are the people at the top of my list- Amber, Tommy, Lisa Brooks, and Chad. G. Either one of them or one in combination with another.

Time for everyone to move on and look beyond Misty…Jessica Lunsford’s grandmother was suspect #1 with LE after she failed her LDT. Boy, LE sure got that case wrong, and Jessica paid the ultimate price.

Time to look closer at Tommy & Lisa, the Sheffields and look at the RSOs again. PCSO, please send the circus performers packing.

This is truly killing him deeply inside. I have also noticed that He looks more clean cut in those pics than what we’ve seen of him since his daughter has been missing.

What I do find odd is no videos of pics with Crystal and Haleigh and JR.

Junior was with Crystal when Tommy came to the house past 10:30 pm and the fight occurred. Therefore, he did not witness anything. Had Junior been home, he would have been in bed I’d imagine. He’s 4 years old.

You, and no one else knows what goes on in the home with Junior. You don’t know if there is arguing in front of Junior. It’s best to save the assumptions and stick to facts. Junior is seeing a counselor. Both Crystal and Ron are involved in the counseling. I’m sure if Crystal feels there are concerns, she will take the appropriate measures for her son. Too many chefs in this kitchen.

Perhaps people should stop focusing on all these side issues and start thinking about HALEIGH and where SHE might be right now.

You have been very nice, and I was thanking you for it, sincerely.

PAW: You are right I would be disturbed, but I would realize I need help with this for my child’s sake.

I am not mad at anybody, but all of this is too painful for me. I am closing out for the day. Good night. Hopefully, we won’t be talking about all of this violence, tomorrow.

You would be disturbed too if your child was taken and your life just went down the drain.

Thank you for being so nice and letting me state my opinion. Psychologists tell us when people start talking suicide to take them very seriously. I know how terrified Jr. is when he watches his Daddy fighting his Uncle Tommy and Misty, his mother, Amber, and heaven only knows who else. I stood outside of my parents’ bedroom where they physically fought, regularly, and it is horrible for a child. I still live with the pain of my childhood, and I wish someone had of stepped in.

There has been one incident right after another for 8 months, now. Apparently, GGSykes can’t handle Ronald all that well. He is seriously disturbed and needs help.

I won’t say anything else, but if you didn’t live in an environment like this, you cannot understand what all of this is doing to Jr.

This is not about a few statements and this has been a pattern for years with Ron. One person right after another has told us, and all of this started before Haleigh went missing. His life was out of control for years. Peoples’ lives are in danger, here, and we need to get real.

And like I’ve said before if my child had been abducted I would probably threaten the sbductor’s life too. I don’t think this makes me evil or guilty just mad and protective.

It’s ok to rip Ron amd Misty but heaven forbid someone speak out against the circus going on! JMHO

So I guess everyone who is under a great deal of stress because they have a child missing and makes statements out of anger is a murderer or is conspiracy to murder.

Ron has said things “BECAUSE” 1 of his children is missing. He is not out to hurt his child. He is out to hurt who ever took his other child.

You know how many parents who’s child/ren have been kidnapped/killed have said they will kill whoever took/killed there child. Whether they said it on a 911 call, to someone else, or in their own home, I’m sure all of them have made that statement, or 1 very close to it.

Hurry up with your story, because I can’t take too much more of this blog for one day. I can’t believe that people have come forward, one right after the other to tell us about Ronald’s violence, and some of you won’t believe it. Somebody is going to be killed before all of this is over. Will you believe, then?

Some of you just rip anyone apart that speaks out. People, I don’t want to see Jr. taken out of his home, either, but he needs to be in a safe environment. How many of you have all of this going on in your home in front of your child?

I think she’s telling the truth. I don’t think she had anything to do with Haleigh missing. I think she’s tired of taking test after test after test and she’s tired of telling them what they have already heard. That’s why she doesn’t want to go back and talk to them again.

Shame on you TM for trying to be detective and trying to be LP. LP tried that stunt with CA and it didn’t work. Of course it’s not going to work on MC either.

TM when are you going to look for Haleigh again like promised???

I’m sorry, but it’s time to move on and look at the Sheffield side. SERIOUSLY!!! 8 MONTHS, MOVE ON!!!

Disgusted & DISGUSTED:

I agree with all you have said, glad there is some out there who can put into words all I was thinking as I read here today.

I am bowing out of this three ring side show for today, maybe for longer. Not quite the same place anymore, feels more like a crime scene.