It was TJ that came up with rather interesting phrase ‘The Dirty Half Dozen’, of course it is a reference to the top six suspects in this case, as seen through the eyes of the press. Our methods are not scientific, it is a list compiled through our observations, and by talking to people.
In fact this list varies from person to person that I talk to. My list is different to other peoples, but we are consistent on some of the players that we have pegged.
It does not matter what crime you are planning to commit, you need the three ‘M’s, Motive, Means, and Misdirection.
Motive is easy, a reason to commit the crime. Means, a way to perform the crime. That leaves Misdirection, simply put, you need a way to avoid detection.
There are three names that appear consistently on our Dirty Half Dozen, Misty Croslin, Ronald Cummings, and Crystal Shefield. lets take some time to see how they stack up in the three ‘M’ world.
I will start with Crystal Shefield because she is by far the easiest to analyze. She certainly had motive, a $12,000 child support bill that was growing faster than the national debt. 12,000 dollars may not sound much to some people, it is approximately the average amount owed by people on their credit cards. It is however a huge sum of money when you do not have it, and are unlikely to ever have it. So clearly Crystal meets the criteria for motive.
Lets move on to Means, this is where she starts to fall apart as a credible choice. I do not see her having the smarts to put together the plan, never mind execute it. I also believe that Crystal loves her daughter Haleigh, that can be seen by the efforts that she made following the abduction. She certainly tried much harder than the other family members to reach out for information. Sure I have some reservations about her choices of assistants, but at least she was proactive.
Misdirection, this lady can’t spell misdirection, never mind understand the concept. In my view, she is the most unlikely of the Dirty Half Dozen.
Next on the list is Misty Croslin-Cunmmings. I can possibly think of some motives, but few hold much credibility. She was the 17 year old babysitter/lover/housekeeper. Motive? This is a hard one. I have mulled it over for some considerable time. I could see her getting rid of both kids, it would make her life easier. But why do it? It has been widely reported that Misty had spent the previous three days on a sex and drugs binge. So looking after young children did not seem to be a focal point of her young life. And it certainly did not seem to represent a major road block to her having fun.
It could be that Haleigh saw, or did something, and to prevent the information becoming public Misty did something to the little girl. Quite frankly I have a hard time buying into this argument. There is a darker idea that floats around in my mind, intimidation. Was Misty coerced into something? The obvious thought would be a drug debt.
Means, absolutely she had the means! She was in the trailer, she could have opened the back door, she could have done anything! She could have put the dirty laundry in the washer and dryer to clear the path to the back door. Although, sources close to the investigation (in other words I ain’t telling) also point out that there were still some piles of laundry still in front of the back door.
Misdirection? She does not have the ability. As the old English saying goes, she could not organize a booze up in a brewery!
Oh, sure she knows more than is coming out of her mouth, and it is that aspect that puts her in the Dirty half Dozen.
Lets look at Ronald, Haleigh’s dad, and the bread winner for the family. At first glance Ronald Cummings has no motive. Anecdotal stories show him as a man that cares greatly for his children. Sure it is no patriarch of the Waltons, more like Archie Bunker in All In The Family, but he does seem to care, or at least pretend to. Motive is a somewhat difficult, but not impossible subject to come up with.
Anecdotal data shows that Ronald Cummings was desperate for money. If it was to feed either his, or Misty’s drug habit is an unknown. He was also likely pretty upset about Misty taking off for three days having fun. It is even possible that removing Haleigh from the mix might give him more leverage. ‘You lost my damn daughter because you were not here’, etc, etc.
Maybe it was even a way to obtain sympathy for his nasty existence.
Was Haleigh sold? Was Haleigh the price to be paid for previous indiscretions or debts that Ronald Cumming had?
Means, yes he had the means, lets face it, the time line is so sketchy it would be like carbon dating a dinosaur fossil and trying to determine if it was born on a Wednesday! Some people have floated the idea that the whole 911 events at 3am were not supposed to unfold the way that they did. Misty screwed up, her mission was to call before Ron got home.
Misdirection, well that is an easy one. He was at work! He could not have done it, he was unloading a barge.
But, and it is a huge BUT, we do not know when Haleigh Cummings went missing. In fact we do not even know who picked her up from the bus stop. Different people tell different stories.
Two weeks ago we all were floored with the news that Misty Croslin-Cummings had submitted to a polygraph. Tim Miller of TES made no bones about the results, she failed miserably! Of course a polygraph is not admissible in court, but I know enough folks in the FBI to know that they are a valuable tool. I for one would love to see Ronald Cummings take another one. I know that he claims that he ‘passed’ the one a while ago. But, the parameters have changed. I am sure that Ronald Cummings will read this article, why not take another? I am sure that Tim Miller can arrange it?
OK, I ended up with an article that was way longer than I had planned. I have only talked about three of the Dirty Half Dozen.
I want to ask you all a question. Actually two questions. Am I wrong with my top three? And secondly, who would you name to fill the other three spots, and why?
Update: I am going to keep a tally of who you think should be the other three. I will publish the results tomorrow - Simon
Simon Barrett
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Follow-up comment rss or Leave a TrackbackWhat about Amber Brooks and her mother?
What about Chad?
What about Loucakis who still sits in jail over a probation violation?
What about cousin Joe or one of the Croslins?
It’s time for Haleigh to come home, one way or another.
Simon- excellent, excellent writing-
Tim Miller confirms that Ronald Cummings cut the head off a rat and did it to test Misty, why not touch on that? Contact Tim Miller, he will confirm-
Please look into the timeline- Ron wants us to believe he got her off the bus drove her home, and went to work, but he didn’t- he got to work at 4:30, if Haleigh got off the bus around 3- where was he for that hour and 15 minutes before work, remember, he wants us to think he kissed her and left-
May be nothing, but what happened in that time frame?
Oops, sorry I didn’t say the why.
Chad-well he was gone that night till almost 5 AM Tues. morning. Since Johnny S had been in jail for the same thing maybe he thought Crystal was going to jail, too. Which she could have spent 179 days in jail. Chad wasn’t working at the time so either he had to pay CS or he was going to need money for Crystal an attorney and still have to pay back CS.
Amber and her mom. Amber hated Misty and Crystal and I am sure Ron, also. That’s why Misty was assaulted by Lisa and Amber was assaulted by Sarah S., Chelsea assualted Sarah. They almost comes to blows a couple days before Haleigh goes missing. Where was Amber and her mom that night?
Cousin Joe apparently left sometime during the night when Haleigh went missing. The van had been moved and damaged and the keys also moved. He left town the 10th. He had stolen Ron’s gun a couple of weeks earlier and they had words.
Tommy Croslin because he lived very close to 202 Green Lane. He had been there earlier in the evening, could he have unlocked the side door? I don’t know what the motive would be at this time. He only came on my radar recently. He did have domestic violence charges against him in the past with Lindsy.
Viva Haleigh didnt’ get out of school till 3:10, I would bet she didn’t get home till after 3:30. It’s not like she lived a few blocks from school, it’s 7.2 miles away with kids to drop off between the school and where Haleigh was dropped off.
Ok Vaquera, but that leaves an hour and 15 minutes still-
We need to know if the A/C guy saw Haleigh? He’s the only one I trust lol.
I don’t necessarily have any names to add, but I do have a question about Ronald’s day on that Monday.
I seem to recall someone reporting that he might have been doing some landscaping type work or going to collect funds for previous landscaping work in Crescent City.
IF, and that’s a big if, I am remembering this right, where does this fit into the latest story of that day as told by Misty, Ron and their attorneys?
Vaquera,
Chelsea assaulted Lisa Brooks. Check the court records.
Okay, I see your points about Crystal and I agree.. she is an introvert. She does not have the ability to plan on how to burst out of a paper bag. She could not, nor never would have been able to carry this out by herself, or alone. No way..
Misty, I don’t think she could pull anything off. She pulled a stupid trick, she went out, I think with Joe.. It also dawned on me, where she had been on the weekend, and learned how to make a few buck to go by drugs with.. So, she couldn’t go alone, but she could go if she had someone with her to protect her.. She wasn’t home that night. She went out..
Ron, Never innocent, attached to his Mother and Grandmother by the hip. Would not move sideways without their help. He is a Momma’s boy and I don’t mean that is a bad thing, he just is..
So, now you have the three.. You have the primary Triangle.. And the case I believe is based right smack on this triangle.
When my girls were small, My Baby girl was tough.. and she stood up and protected her oldest sister’s like she was their guardian in life. What would my girls do for one another right now.. Well you hurt one, you better be on the run.. The other two are on their way..
Well Crystal has both a Brother and a Sister.
And they also have a tight relationship, maybe much tighter than Misty’s relation with her brothers.
Have you notice, you don’t see them, you hear about them, no one really knows about them. You hurt Crystal and you will.
Misty’s relationship with her brothers, she is the baby girl, and they do love her.. and we have seen an example of the loyality?
Ron.. Naw.. he would have sold misty first. he would never cross his Mother or his Grandmother doing anything to Haleigh. Naw..
I went back to the 2007 court papers from the last Custody Papers. I found lots of interesting comments in the 50 odd pages, and found Crystal very timid, and non responsive.
But, she did make two comments, that linger..
1. That when she visited the children at rons house, they always seem to block her in, like they think she was going to kidnapp the kids.
2. That she receives alot of phone calls from Putnam County, about Ron and the kids.
Well you have your triangle. Now lets look at all frames of motives.
1. Love
2. Hate
3. Revenge
4. Jealousy
5. Greed / Money
6. Fear
Which ones match the triangle…..
Thank you, hell-o.I have a killer headache this afternoon and I had forgotten that again.
Oh for pity’s sake Simon, you write as though this was a premeditated crime. Misty in her less than up to snuff condition from those days of debauchery could have accidentally caused an injury or Haleigh’s demise. She may not be able to misdirect, but she does a damned fine job of staying out of the pokey despite lies and obfuscation. Of course Ron won’t be in the clear until we know what the actual crime and timeline are and he is as accomplished a prevaricator as the little missus. And snuffing Haleigh doesn’t (wouldn’t have) absolve(d) Crystal of arrears in child support.
I’m lost too; it’s just hard to think like these Briar Patch folks do.
Great post Mlee.
I would think the top three would exclude Crystal for the same reasons as listed by Simon.
I have thought about this for quite some time actually.
My top of the top would be Ronald actually.
Motive: It’s highly possible that there isn’t a planned motive here, rather that it could very possibly have been spur of the moment rage brought on potentially by sleep deprivation, stress and discourse within his interpersonal relationships.
Means: There again Simon is right, it is unknown as to when something may have happened to Haleigh and/or when Haleigh had actually disappeared.
As far as misdirection goes it seems that this case most likely has a terrible case of intentional misdirection to begin with so where do we start?
The second person I would list would be Misty and I would only be able to Mimic both Simon and Mlee and their take on her so I’ll skip right along to number three.
The third possible suspect might be either one of Misty’s Brothers or Cousin. I tend to believe they also should fall in line with both Crystal and Misty though, especially the Brothers in that I cannot see any one of them finding their own way out of a wet paper sack considering that they always allow the females in their lives to speak for them. More likely that they and possibly other family members (even possibly the Cummings) were associated in someway after the fact. Rather weak theory for Misty’s family members but there you have it.
http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=756503&IMG=
Hank Croslin Jr. has been arrested apparently.
We might see some action in this case after all! I honestly had no hope in hearing anything useful from Misty anyway.
~Where is Haleigh?~
well, I know this about arrears of child support when a child dies. When my 3 1/2 month old died from SIDS his bio-dad was absolved of all arreages. Never had to pay one dime, ever. Certainly didn’t help with funeral expenses either, my family had to step in to help. I’m not sure if this is the case for older children, but I do know it happens.
See, I don’t see the loyality, initiative, or resources in Misty’s family.. I cannot rationally find a motive for their involvement. These people live by the seat of their pants.
If they had Harmed Haleigh, I don’t think, ron or misty or both her brothers, and her parents would be sharp enough to hide that Sweet Little Girls body, and it not be found. They just have it upstairs.. The search teams that were out, were very good at what they did..
And, the time was limited. But, there is still the issue of NO DNA, NO EVIDENCE of Harm in that House, or the van.
Rationally, you have to have to find anchors in this case. elements that never change, the reason why you have the feeling deep inside, that Haleigh is alive, and taken care of. I have two anchors.
1. they changed her clothes.
2. the breathing machine disappear about the same time, which leads me to believe it left with Haleigh.
Those two Anchors, equal love, concern, caring, protection.
Hollys g-mom, I am not sure what Florida laws would regulate, but I have seen documents that related to the current rate of child support and payments, and they seem to be still the same as the orginally were, and are currently being paid monthly.
They have just arrested Tommy Croslin..
mlee said,in September 15th, 2009 at 6:11 pm
“Rationally, you have to have to find anchors in this case. elements that never change, the reason why you have the feeling deep inside, that Haleigh is alive, and taken care of. I have two anchors.
1. they changed her clothes.
2. the breathing machine disappear about the same time, which leads me to believe it left with Haleigh.
Those two Anchors, equal love, concern, caring, protection.”
My heart for this Child begs for you to be correct. The thing is how do we know for certain that the breathing machine was ever even there?
Also the changing of the clothes could have been done at most any time after Haleigh got off the bus. How did that shirt get missed when it was so obvious to Misty when she found it in the clothes basket? Is that even the same shirt Haleigh had on that day and what proof do we have other than Misty or Ron’s statements that would solidify that it was indeed the same shirt? With all of the lies that have been exposed thus far I now question every single piece of information that has come out since day uno. KWIM?
There have always been far more questions in this case than true answers. All we can do is find what appears to be more rational than what isn’t.. This case because of the lack of evidence, the lack of true timeline, has been based on speculation from the get go, and will continue until things can be ruled out or ruled on.. This is the best we can do.. I cannot read their minds, I’m not a mind bender.
We know the breathing machine was in that house, the one at Crystal’s home was accounted for. If it wasn’t taken with Haleigh, then someone came in and stole it for no reason? that isn’t rational. Misty claimed from the beginning, that Haleigh was wearing the pink top. In one of her original statements she said that Haleigh had been wearing the pink top and tan shorts, and took the shorts off before going to bed, because they were not comfortable. so, what do we have to believe, she was wearing a pink top. There was no laundry basket, clothes were thrown on the floor, misty found the pink top on the floor, so we can conclude that Haleigh left the house in her under pants, and nothing else, or clean clothes, from the pile that Grandma Sykes brought to the house, and the pink top thrown on the pile of dirty clothes. Thats all we can. and those are my two rational anchors.
the other three:
marie
johnny
connie
or these three:
grandma sykes
lisa (rons aunt)
amber
when it comes to:
marie
johnny
connie
mom and dad didnt want to see daughter go to jail.
stepmom hoped for her own daughter(haleigh)and would help keep crystal out of jail for the price of haleigh.
grandma sykes
lisa
amber
cause amber is/was like family and had been with ron for 3-4 yrs, the cummings loved and trusted her.
they set out to get misty gone.
The exposed lies/inconsistancies leave me no option other than to question every single piece of information given by either of the two so far
It’s just the way it is.
Hopefully you are right with your theory and rationalizations Mlee. I’ve been hoping for the best possible outcome all along and by far your theory gives my hope a chance.
I haven’t posted on here in a long time. Reading some of the comments though I am compelled to suggest a theory that is not really mentioned here, at least today. I believe that Misty harmed and possibly killed Haleigh. We know that she has called Ron in the past and argued about getting the kids to mind. He just expected her to figure it out. If she had been on a long weekend bender(I believe that she was) Then she would have been tired, impatient, and possibly edging needing something. Haeligh didn’t want to go to bed maybe even argued or threw a tantrum, and Misty lost control. IF there is one thin about Misty I have found interesting is that she is a survivor. I dont think anything is premeditated, everything happened after as a cover. I think she called her brother scared and he helped her. I suspect that after the fact Ron now knows the truth and uses it to keep her in line. As to the shirt, what better way to hide evidence that may have bodily fluids on it. Say she was wearing this shirt….. Then you miraculously find the shirt. Now one one knows what she was wearing. Breathing machine, If she was thrown to the floor or something she could have hit her head and it was removed to hide evidence. Maybe I am jaded because of the horriblly large number of missing children lately that have met their awful fate at the hands of parents,caregivers, or someone known and trusted by the family.
You know everyone can think what they want,and Misty can fool you all,but that girl is not as dumb as you may think.Kids that grow up with abuse,neglect,uneducated and without the good life like other children,soon learn how to cope and get what they need and want.They become street wise.They lack emotion,feeling as we know,and they educate themselves.Misty is at the top of the list.Ronald has a bad temper,most likely from being spoiled rotten but guess whom,Mommy dearest and Grand mommy.He don’t get his way he pitches a fit and hits anyone in sight,sure he loved his little girl,why not she was his meal ticket.And Ronald’s Mother,now there is a winner,always gives baby boy what he wants,poor little boy,bet she had a lot to say in the custody court case,give baby boy what he wants.And then Granny,now there is someone else to look at,doing laundry for poor Ronald and Misty,they have a washer and dryer yet because they party so much they can’t get it done.Crystal,she is not at all so bad,she is not like those others above,she isn’t making this into a circus,she is doing her best to get the word out with out putting all the lime light on herself.As for child support,there is a lot of people out there that owes,but they don’t make a child disappear,and at that then make both children disappear.She would still have to pay child support.Okay how about Joe,he left that night,now check it out,Misty on drugs,gets mad hits the child,killing her,Joe is leaving takes the body and on his way gets rid of her.Now that sounds likely.Or maybe Misty and Joe are covering up for Ron and one of his temper tantrums killed the child.Who knows what happen but more than likely there is several people that knows and are scared too tell.Scared of Ronald.Simon you might solve the case before LE.You go Simon,good luck.
I will tell you that I still pray for Haleigh and everyday several time a day I search the news to see if anything new is developing. Just like I do for Hassani Campbell, Robert Manwill(before his body was discovered, now I search for info on killers, Nevaeh Buchanan also. And of course the Caylee Anthony case which definately drew my attention to the crimes against children. I am curious in an above post it is mentioned that Tommy Croslin was just arested, yet the internet news search I did hasn’t come up with anything. Where does that info come from?
I’ve actually thought a lot about motive-anything’s possible & I’d like to add a few things. Crystal owed a huge amount of support & was looking @ court & possibly jail. Maybe she thought that with Hayleigh, [the sick child], gone, she’d get Jr.[the healthy child], & could start over. I don’t think we have any idea how much these 2 families hate each other & the extremes they’ll go because of that animosity. If Crystal did have a part in this, she of course had help. But realistically, this scenario has a lot of holes. Why would Ronald & Misty lie for her? Misty didn’t just take off for a party weekend. There are reports that she had told Ron that she was pregnant, so he beat the crap out of her. If this caused a miscarraige, maybe she went after Hayleigh as payback. This far-fetched scenario would @ least explain their unified front-cuz they’d both be up to their eyeballs in charges.[including battery, rape & murders]. If Ron committed this act alone, it was probably simply due to his temper & abusive ways. Misty, being a dumb kid, would of course, cover for him. I also think that his family hates Crystal so much & would be so resentful towards her because this happened on Ron’s watch, that they would cover for him or Misty.
Tommy Croslin is in jail now, apparently for theft. Bond is $50,004.00
Will he talk? Regardless of the threat inferred by the person who placed a headless rat in his mailbox?
Tommy told police he believes Ronald Cummings put the headless rat in his mailbox.
Most likely that means Tommy feels Ronald will harm him if he “talks”.
But, talks about WHAT?
Will Ronald, and/or Misty soon be arrested for being involved in the same theft, or other thefts, or - is the secret Tommy felt the headless rat was meant to intimidate him into not telling about Haleigh?
What do you think?
I think if he has info especially that would put Ron in jail he would sing to save his own skin. Ron may be alot of things but he is no big time thug who could reach into even jail and get Tommy killed. That whole bunch seems to me like they would sell their own mother to save themselves. Excluding Crystal in this comment
Welp, it’s gonna go one of two ways I’m thinking. It’s either gonna go easy or it’s gonna go hard.
Either way, it’s gonna go.
I hope and pray you are right. Kids like Haleigh and all the rest I mentioned and those I don’t even know deserve justice.
‘THE TRUTH FEARS NO QUESTIONS’ How about it Ronald? Are you afraid? Tim Miller is waiting!
I truly think, the hate comes from Crystal’s Mother more than anything. I’m really not sure, or should I say convinced that Crystal and Ron hate each other. I rather think they don’t. I think what this is, same thing that occur’s in families all over the country..
young couples, who have trouble with each other, but still drawn to each other, combined with parents who would rather see them apart. and all of little details that fall in the middle. Combined with new boy friends and new girl friends in the mix, and two tiny little people trapped between all of them.
Looks like Tommy won’t be leaving Florida any time soon.
The investigators may be able to learn the truth from him now.
Reportedly, Misty called Tommy sometime during the hours before 911 was called . . .
Talk, Tommy, talk.
True Case closed, I have talked to people who say they wouldn’t take one and all, but if you truly have nothing to fear why not? It can;t even hurt you in court…. not admissable
It would be ironic if after all the lie and coverups and searches and stuff if Misty and or Ron were taken down by their own family. Isn’t that what a rat signals anyone a rat fink who is talking……
concernedforcaylee, I so hope that you have hit the nail on the head, that Tommy does know something.. and that he uses what he has to cut a deal. And if he gives the right combination of details, it just might break the case wide open..
You realize a bunch of people may well end up in jail, may not just be ron, may not be ron at all.. but I do believe the least for ron at this point is going to be obstruction of justice. Because, he does know far more than he is telling.. He showed that by warning Crystal to be careful in what she said on Nancy Grace. Of course Momma Marie, used stronger words, she used the word threatened x 2. Don’t you just love Twitter…
Remember, an adult male said he had to pull himself and a group of children back to avoid being run into by Ronald’s car while waiting at Haleigh’s bus stop the morning of February 10.
When I have children in my car, I drive much more cautiously. If Haleigh was in the car with Ronald that morning, then he clearly is not a person I would trust to keep a child safe off-road, let alone while riding in a car with him.
On the other hand, perhaps Haleigh was not in the car with him as he sped past her bus stop.
But if Haleigh wasn’t in the car with him, being transported to school, then where was Ronald speeding off to so early the morning of February 10?
I think Haleigh caught Misty playing hanky panky & threatened to tell. Maybe Misty &/or company hit, her out of anger, a little too hard. She could have died from trauma without losing blood. Hence, no mess to leave behind. M. panicked & somehow got rid of her. Just my gut feeling. If I’m right, I pity Misty when Ron finds out,,,
That or maybe she wouldn’t hurry up and go to bed so she could play….. Am i remembering that Ron and Misty had a fight while he was at work about getting Haleigh to mind. Ron said put in a movie or spank her whatever…. Something to that affect.
I hope that all involved in whatever happend to Haleigh and the cover are punished to the fullest extent of the Law. The only way to help put a stop to this insanity is to actually punish the people responsible. And really punish them
Since you have basically eliminated Crystal and you say there is a “dirty half-dozen I’m going with…
Ron
Misty
Teresa N
Annette S
Tommy Croslin
Cousin Jo
LISTEN TO RON ON THE BACKGROUND OF THIS TAPE
HE KNOWS WHAT HAPPENED TO HALEIGH AND HE IS IN ON THE COVER UP. LISTEN TO THE BACKGROUND OF THE 911 CALL starting at marker 5:20 to 5:50
He is telling Misty in the background, WE’RE F–KED. I DIDN’T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THIS
If he had just come in from work and found his little girl missing, he wouldn’t be even thinking about he didn’t have anything to do with this. He would have been in a panic about his little girl missing!
You can google this tape at:
Video: Haleigh Cummings Mother Crystal Sheffield on Geraldo At Large Part 1
I don’t believe this was a planned out event. I believe this happened because of people being out of control due to immaturity, drugs, impulse control problems, temper problems, jealousy, and lack of good decision making skills.
I don’t think this took much time to happen. One slap can send a child into a wall and break their neck or crack their head open. The cover-up would have taken a little more time and planning. It may have happened before Ron went to work, and Misty’s brothers may have helped Misty after dark to get rid of Haleigh’s body. People keep expecting her body to be found, but the dogs tracked right down to the water. Water in Florida, is full of alligators, and that is why they called the search off, so soon.
My 3 suspects are Ron, Misty, and Ron, but I think the Croslin brothers and their wives may be arrested on concealing the crime.
If Misty keeps implicating her brothers, I say shut her up in a room with the sister-in-laws and the truth will come out!
I don’t like Teresa’s lying and covering for Ron, but I say let’s look at his dad, too. What did he teach Ron and what did Ron inherit from him? I didn’t approve of Geraldo’s tactics when he went to Satsuma, but Ron’s Dad nearly attacked Geraldo for asking Ron some hard questions. You can see where Ron gets his idea of settling everything with violence!
*Chad - Was supposidly out that night from what I’ve read and it was unknown where he was. I wonder if he knew about crystals child support problems and thought he might be stuck paying it if he married her and said to his self Oh He** No?
*Amber Brooks - Because she hated misty so. And because she was probably mad at Ron from careing more about Haleigh than her Baby, Jordan I think it is. And she must have really liked ron a lot because her myspace is under the name Amber Cummings. Ron dissed her for misty, didn’t even claim her baby, so she may have done something to Rons baby girl because of that.
*????
I agree with the person who said that what makes the most sense is that Ronald is an accessory after the fact and using his knowledge to keep his wayward little seventeen-going-on-forty cutie pie in line! Very often the simplest explanations are the ones that turn out to be true.
I also agree that Misty is not dumb. She would be very dangerous indeed if she were eductated. The fact that she isn’t is the only thing giving anyone a chance to figure this out.
I’ll leave your top 3, as is (although I waffle on Crystal), but
1-Ron
2-Misty
3-CS
4-Cousin Joe
5-Tommy
6-Amber/Amber’s Mother (they count as a team in my book)
A whole lotta coverin’ up going on by GGMA Sykes, TN, & others, but I don’t think they are directly involved.
Lostnthemiddle
Are those your picks? Do you think they were working together? Tommy would know Amber and Amber probably knows Chad since Sarah beat her up and she did live with Ronald for a while..
Haleigh may have found some of Rons drugs
( tabs) ate them thinking they were candy. i think thats the only way he would back misty. They find out he has drugs ,he goes to jail and loses custody of Ron Jr. I feel misty and brother covered it.
This is getting stranger than fiction..If Tommy is involved..Would Misty not want to anger him in any fashion..If this is going to play out this way, I would say Ron is sly as a fox..I don’t believe he knows what happened to his daughter, but he does seem to be BEHIND all this stuff that is happening..I am thinking it will be him that has everybody turning on each other, and that is how he will find out what happened to Haleigh, it won’t even be LE, it will be Ron..
I tend to agree that I don’t think Ron was “in on it” But he has an ugly temper and I don’t think for one second that he let up on Misty after the police left. I think his mentality is basically I can’t change what happened to Haleigh so the next bes thing is to use it to his advantage. You hear so much stuff about all the players, drug involvement and stuff. So imagine that I have proof that you were involved in my missing child’s death and cover up…. That could go along ways to getting me whatever I want. Free babysitter, drugs blackmail money….. I suddenly became very powerful.
I do also believe that Misty is afraid of Ron, and maybe even her brothers. But if my memory is correct there is reports that I think are credible that say Misty called her brother before she called 911….. even young and immature you wouldn’t call someone young guy over 911 if you wake up at 3 in the morning and you have a missing 5 year old.
This is a thought…if Ron actually was/is a “dealer” . He could have possibly jerked the wrong person around . This person or persons could have known that he works at night and planned on taking his child(knowing Misty would be pretty much powerless) as revenge or payback . How would Ron explain that to the police if he was a dealer ? He would incriminate himself and a whole chain around him…then he’d really be screwed of any chance of getting Haleigh back alive . That could explain why he was so mad at Misty during the 911 call. That could explain why he evades questions and looks so sad and guilty at the same time. That could explain why he dosnt go out and search for her. That could explain why Mistys voice analysis says she knows more than she shares. That could explain alot of the many suspcious aspects of this case that come up…Just a thought at a different angle …thats all
“onemadmomma” gives an interesting perspective!
Could be why they rushed to get married.
They pry thought that they wouldn’t have to testify against each other.
I never could understand why Ron would want to marry the girl who last saw his daughter and whose stories have more holes than swiss cheese.
As for Misty calling big brother before the cops.. could it be that maybe he took the girls body to Massachusetts?Kind of weird he moves to another state right after Haleigh goes missing.
This theory makes a whole lot more sense than Ron owing a drug debt and selling Haleigh or Haleigh being kidnapped by drug lords or whatever.Would be a huge pain in the @55 to hide her for months just to scare Ron I’d think and also if it were just her being kidnapped for a debt wouldn’t they have turned her over and took the reward money?.
I don’t understand how there have not been any arrests made yet.They need to lock up little Misty eyes, interrogate her to the hilt and scare her in to talking.Maybe they are just waiting until she is 18?I hope that’s the case because someone needs to take responsibility and own up to whatever happened.I cant stand seeing her sappy eyes and hearing her whiny voice on TV.She is LYING and I think Ron is lying too if my kid went missing the last thing I’d think about is getting a plethora of tattoos and marrying some illiterate tramp I’d be out looking,searching frantically like a normal parent .
Misty - jealousy strikes young girls. Especially when the man they love is paying undivided attention to a little girl and com,peting for time and focus - jealousy - strange statement about halenigh not liking to wear clogths, how ge\
Jealousy, a bad temper and a tiny girl with no strength. A brother who helps.
to answer simon’s question if not ron or misty
1. prty frnd or drg assoct that visited that day or night. haleigh overhrd or saw somthg, also possible they were pedophile themselves and thought easy to distract misty or ron and take haleigh.
2. strnger abduction. becse they lived in trailer for only a month(?), smeone in area may have been watchg haleigh and that was first night they got chance to take her. (ron/misty so busy covrg up their own issues not caring or realizing how it would effect search for haleigh.)
3. least likely i think is ron or misty’s enemy(ies). drug world or personal enemies. examples of personal enemies could be ?? maybe ronald’s ex brother in law paying back the cummings’ family for keeping him from his own children?? or amber or someone on her behalf getting carried away thinkg to teach misty and ron a lesson. these are just possible examples as i do not know any of these people. (i would think police would have eliminated enimies first)
i agree with Karon Cox noting ronalds statement on 911
ron said “we’re f**cked, i didn’t have anything to do with this.” hmmmm -
we and i statements. he thnks or knows whatever happened implicates him and who is ron trying to convince (himself, misty or mybe both) that it is not his responsibility. and was ron thinkg ahead to using this statement in a possible defense. taking it off of 911 audio that he said “i didn’t have anything to do with this.” in this “story” it would not surprise me if he planned for that to be on the phone call to 911. whatever it does mean, it does not sound as if concern for haleigh was a first priority. sounded more concerned about them taking the blame.
could tommy have been arrested for theft for taking haleigh donations?
after all ron was running around town getting free meals.
if tommy was invovled he might have wanted his share too.
Porcelain, hopefully, prayerfully, this will some
day soon be resolved and we will know some truth
and Haleigh will have some justice. But we don’t
know that Misty is guilty of anything. Why refer to her as an “illiterate tramp”? She MAY be the biggest victim here. For her to have quit
school so young there had to be a number of adults at fault. JMO
hello again simon,
ron and misty are my number one suspects. crystal is way down my list, and then more so to protect haleigh than abt the money. misty is my number one suspect. grandma sykes is key here. truth or alibi for ronald?? if she is mistaken or lying(but she has witness so…)than ronald could really be behind whtever hppened to haleigh that dy or night. but, i doubt g.s. and witness both are wrong or lying. (unless r.c.left wrk)so that leaves misty or on misty’s watch. i think either haliegh was injured accdntlly in house accident or misty or friend accdntlly injured h.c. while having to “deal” with her. possibly even overdosing her while trying to sedate her for their own purposes. maybe to keep her quiet while partying or to assault haleigh while out. or during misty’s absence h.c. was injured. or abducted by someone.
i wonder about ronalds possible drug dealings. and the consequences of that.
i know most dismiss stranger abduction, but the part about them living there only a month is a curious amt of time to live smwhere and go missing.
since misty’s family is characterized as very dysfunctional or challenged over the years, i suppose she could have let one of them hurt h.c. but. it seems way more likely that they may have tried to help misty cover something up.
@D Kerr: If Misty was getting help by her brother, why would she mention that the van had been moved?
@nance: not all people drive more cautiously when kids are in the car, even those who don’t use seatbelts. I don’t believe that’s enough reason to suspect she wasn’t in the car. Now, speeding by so no one could see that she wasn’t in the car, that’s possible.
However, I don’t think anything unusual happened before he went to work. He needed a solid alibi, anyone who watches TV knows that. And he probably didn’t know that wives can now beforved to testify against their husbands in FL in cases such as this, that’s probably why he married Misty. Although it was right after his birthday, what’s the statutory laws there? Was 24 some secret lawful cutoff age?
@Porcelain: He told Cobra that “you want to keep your enemies close to you” as an explanation on why he married Misty. I always found that to be loosely made statement, did he not know it would become public?
I lost reasonable hope of finding her alive quite awhile ago. This is definitely one of those times I hope to be proven wrong beyond be any other times in my life…..
My hope is for *justice*. And I think, deep down, that’s why I still follow this case so closely.
@Karon Cox: The tape definitely gives so much credibility to the ideas that this may have been an accident out of anger. Makes me wonder if they took her body to MA to get rid of it. The law wouldn’t think of looking there, or anywhere along the way, and that makes searching really hard. But I suspect maybe a swamp not too far away (to keep the focus off the traveling family members), but far enough away that the law wouldn’t think about searching.
Did the law ever search the trailer for blood? Did they get dna samples from Haleigh’s brush? I sure hope they at least did the latter. If there’s a large amount of blood in there, or in unexpected places, then that would nail down where that may have happened.
@keena: Ron’s statement about “I will do whatever you want to get her back” (paraphrased) gives alot of credence to his owing someone money.
My list (revised)
I’ll leave your top 3, as is (although I waffle on Crystal), but
1-Ron
2-Misty
3-CS
4-[bold]Donald Sapp[/bold]
5-Tommy
6-Cousin Joe
Donald Sapp’s moved up high on my list. RSO, related to Lindsy, rumors of staying with Lindsy & Tommy, in the week or so before Haleigh misssing, Long, long history of abuse, even a death of a child at his home at one point, domestic arrests, and moved to Satsuma in January, (although didn’t change his RSO address that quickly.), arrested in April for another sexual offense with a child.
o.k, before this slips my mind i wanted to say, how the heck can a woman run a donation center, when it came to fighting for her children she didnt have the so called smarts to do so.
marie you are crystals mother,
why did you not help your daughter get her children back years ago?
Marie is not on trial here. To my knowledge Marie is not a suspect here. Why question her about why she didn’t……?
I am sure she wishes she had of now. I am sure
she wishes she had of done several things to have
prevented this from happening. We all have regrets based on “hind sight”. I don’t know Marie or anything about her but I can only imagine the things she has thought of with regret. We have not been in her shoes but I can
promise you that if we were we too would have regrets. None of us are perfect and even when we are doing the best we know to do, if some tragic situation happened, we would have regret because no matter what we did, we could have done something differently.
Let’s play what if.. all we can do at this moment is speculate anyway… Oh, the waiting..
what if: it started out, domestically involved.
what if: it blew up like a balloon.
what if: ron found out, like in June
what if: it was more beneficial to stay quiet.
what if: plans were at hand.
what if: the test interferred.
what if: silence kept all out of jail.
what if: misty can’t keep quiet to the family
what if: this day is bringing lots of fear.
First off, who has a child for.. 5 YEARS and then trusts someone they have been with 6 months? Doesn’t add up!
If my kid came up missing and I was only with a guy for 6 months who was really big into partying and stuff not READY to be a daddy- He would be the last person I trust! Then he fails a poly- PSSSSSHHHH - Why in the hell would I want to MARRY HIM!?!?!?
Haleigh doesn’t seem FIRST in Ron’s life.
They seen how much Media Casey Anthony got and being from a Trailor Park - Sure seemed GOOD to them! ATTENTION.
They are scum. All of them.
Poor kid. She didn’t do anything to deserve this.
Makes me sick.
Well, it’s obvious you can’t have Ronald on the list along with Misty’s relatives. They would seem to be mutually exclusive.
I seem to have heard somewhere that Misty stated on one of the tests that she knew Ronald couldn’t have been involved and it came back “not sure”.
Possibly a case of: She’s scared, he’s taking advantage, putting the screws on her (premeditated plot or not), and she’s clinging to him for dear life. If it was a case of she wasn’t there, she should simply come clean and ask for protection. That’s where her lack of knowledge tells. Otherwise, he must have something on her, maybe something not related to this case. And he could have been betting she’d leave some time during the night.
It all seems to revolve around the psychology of Ronald Cummings. At least the part that will crack the case.
As for Crystal, it’s entirely possible she’s dealing with delayed stress caused by dealing with that man since she was 14. I’m firmly in the camp with those who believe that a man with such a predilection for younger women (or should we say children) has got other issues.
Misty has a different psychological makeup than Crystal does….
Don’t forget the possible drug dealer Ron, Misty, or Crystal couldn’t pay. There’s your 3 M’s…Motive - I’m a thug; Means - I’m a thug, and Misdirection; - I’m just another thug. Do you feel me?
I thing you can sum it all up…
You have a huge populas of people which all combined together are being driven crazy..
1/3 of this group is pro bio-mom
1/3 of this group is pro bio-dad
3/6 of this group is pro Croslin
3/6 of this group is total Neutral..
Now, which group is going to stand in the middle when its all over, arrest warrants have been issued, Jail has been fed… And scream.. I told you so, I told you so..
And, I guess the big question is, Will Haleigh be home? Where will Junior be? So it does boils down to a no win situation, anyway you look at it. The Kids have been the Victims of this entire case. Will they continue to be Victims?
@WthACherryonTop: 6 months of living with someone is more than enough time to know if you can trust them to watch your children while you work. Reporst are that she babysat many kids in the family before. I think that’s a bit harsh.
@alethea: If you’re an abused woman, you don’t believe a) there really is any help out there, and b) whatever help there would be would not be able to keep the abuser from finding you and killing you, or following through on any number of other threats. If she knows something or was involved in the disappearance, it would be easy for any one of the other members in the family to hang it all on her.
@Gemma: from what I remember, the center wasn’t run very well.
i know the center in satsuma wasnt doing well, but i quess what i was trying to say is some think crystal is not very educated.
exsample; kim picazio was asked why crystal hadnt sought custody of her children before haleigh went missing, kims response was that crystal didnt know there were other options out there, that crystal thought that there was nothing she could do to get her children back.
but yet her crystal is caring for chloe, chads 2 children helping put up hay and running the haleighbug center.
where did the supposed smarts come from all the sudden?
i know noone is perfect and me being one , but come on lets not think of her as a uneducated lady, but someone who plays the system.
all them years of being with ron and his family i will bet she has learned a few things along the way.
that whole family is criminal minded.
quote donald squires(rons uncle,teresas brother) :I WONT RAT MY KIN OUT.
see the pattern?
It’s not harsh when it comes to YOUR CHILD!
6 months is not a very long time.
Especially having a woman around (Babysitter or not) that goes on Weekend PARTY TRIPS! That’s not NORMAL for a Stepmommy to do.
She didn’t finish school after the 6th grade… It doesn’t take SMARTS to lie.
That’s what they… her… him… whoever seems to be good at.
Poor child…
Then again, if it were Crystal… why wouldn’t they have taken BOTH kids?
Withacherryontop - Re: Your question “Wouldn’t Crystal have taken both kids?” IMO, Crystal is one of the logical ones to have taken the kids. Haleigh would have willingly went with her. It could be she was interrupted before she got JR. out of there with some noise or maybe Misty coming home. She could have had various reasons to get the kids away from Ron. I get very bad vibes from Crystal and Marie, the ex-crack house madam where probably Ron met CS. IMO, Crystal cares nothing about those kids. Since there are drugs and criminal activity on almost everyone on both sides of the family. I think the kids should go to someone very responsible and loving outside of Haleigh’s parents. When any members of Haleigh’s relatives move out of state,all local LE officers must be doing a happy dance outside the station. All the relatives are the typical stereotype of the “Southern Hillbilly” and could all star in a new series of the Clampetts.
Jennalu… I agree… 100%.
Donald Sapp is not related to Lindsy.
I don’t know why but I feel that Ron or Misty are the two culprits. I feel that Ron is the master mind in this case. Maybe Misty wanted to get rid of Haleigh because Ron freaked out when she told him she may be pregnant and she may of started her cycle shortly after and felt that she miscarried due to Ron’s abuse. This could still be in Misty’s subconscious. If Misty were pregnant her substance abuse could of played a roll in a miscarriage. Do we know if she ever miscarried in the past? It is said that Women who had had a miscarriage were found to be significantly more anxious, scored and may suffer acute stress disorder, Dissociative amnesia, and/or post-traumatic stress disorder.
I have also thought about the possibility that Misty got some bad drugs that Monday that may of made her hallucinate and she got her hands on more of the same drugs thinking it was something different. But in order to get more drugs she had to sleep with someone and Haleigh walked in (I wonder if Jr. really saw the couch bouncing and a man in black?) Maybe, Misty Snapped or the lover did and he/they disposed of the body.
As for Ron, at first I thought the timing was really odd. Haleigh went missing the day of Caylee Anthony’s memorial. First thing I thought of was that he hid her for the reward money. At first I thought maybe Ron did have someone hide Haleigh to try and make some big money but when the plan went sour who ever was holding Haleigh decied to return her and Ron did not want her back. Maybe he had a hire price in mind. Maybe Ron felt Haleigh was worth more gone than found and shipped her to Mexico and who knows what happen after that. I keep thinking about his ties to Mexico (What job did Ron go to in Mexico when he took the kids from Chrystal?) Maybe he is part of a drug ring and Misty took the drugs he was to sell and they had to come up with that money?
I also thought about the possibility of Ron and Misty getting into an altercation that morning due to her weekend drug/party bindge and maybe Haleigh got caught in the middle and got some type of internal injury and did not show signs of her being ill until later that evening around 7PM. Then Misty called Ron and told him what was going on. Maybe Haleigh passed and Misty was instructed by Ron to dispose of the body or he would blame her for killing Haleigh and she fought with him over the phone about it and ended up disposing the body near the dumpster where someone else came back later and took the body to another location and maybe that is why she does not know what all happen to Haleigh in a way. Maybe she was threated with the DP and taking the wrap if she does not follow Ron’s instructions. She is not the brightest bulb.
I don’t see Chrystal being the abductor, I know that owing $12,000 is a lot of money for her but it also seems like she was trying to start a new life with Chad and the new baby. She only had Haleigh and Jr. two weekends out of the month, I don’t see how they could of been any type of burden to her in that sense either. Chrystal is ignorant and naive and has the classic symptoms of an abused individual, I think she would fear Ron if she ever did anything to either of the children. I also don’t think she would jeopardize the relationship she has with Chad. As for hiding Haleigh from Ron, again this would bring the fear back into play. You can see that she fears Ron.
Cousin Joe, well motive would be to get back at Ron for what ever reason the real fight was about. I don’t buy that the fight was just about a gun. I think there was much more to it. Could that be the reason Misty and Ron were fighting on the phone around 8:30PM? Did Joe already have a plan of taking Haleigh if Ron didn’t do as he said? Didn’t Ron say he was 25% sure of who took Haleigh?
Donald Sapp is said to be related to Lindsy, It has been rumored he stayed with Lindsy & Tommy, in the week or so before Haleigh misssing, History of abuse, and death of a child at his home.
Tommy Croslin in the mix with drugs? Cousin Joe and Donald Sapp who have a history with abuse, drugs, and Misty. Could it be that they were the ones in the home Feb 9th and things got out of hand and Haleigh ended up the victim? I still would like to know if the van was near that dumpster. Did they find any paint or signs of the van or red truck there? The van had a scratch, a red truck has been rumored to be seen near the MH that night.
I now wonder; Did they use the truck to pick up the body from the dumpter? Did Misty or Joe scratch the van on the way to the dumpster where 3 cadaver dogs hit on? Could the top 5 be Joe, Donald, Misty, Tommy, or Ron? The 6th to be Chrystal which I don’t believe she had anything to do with it “IMO”.
Why did she call her brother first at 3 a.m.?
- Again, Your child is missing out of your HOME & your door is wide open, how do you know someone isn’t STILL in the house. *
Didn’t they state that after the AIR man came that grandparents came at 7 something? She said that (She-Misty)… on I think her Voice ana- test.
And Ron was already at work?
Either way.
Poor child didn’t deserve this.
Poor little boy just wants his sister back.
So sad.
Jennalu, please don’t insult people like “the Clampetts.” There’s a big difference between poor white and poor white trash. The Clampett’s type had a moral code. They alsos weren’t mean and wouldn’t stab you in the back. If he were the better type (like the Clampetts), he would have married the girl at the beginning (or face the barrel end of a shotgun if he got caught), instead of waiting until just before he would be in danger of going to jail on statutory rape charges (if my son is informing me correctly about the laws), to marry this girl.
I’m sure there are still a few people out there living with the “folkway” where it’s okay if the girl is young — as long as they’re married. That’s not what’s going on with these people.
If you look at the history of this country, early places like Boonesboro, KY, people were not considered as having a chance at life unless they lived to their eighteenth birthday. Then they *might* have a chance of making it to 40. The mortality rates were unbelievably high. That’s why they married so very young.
Unless there is some widespread decimation of the human population, there really is no excuse anymore for kids having sex — married or not. That’s why we have laws.
I don’t know anything about Putnam County,but one certainly hopes that it isnt one of those pockets where the legal system is so corrupt the stench reaches to heaven, and that this keeps the truth from getting out. But it looks like there are some good people there trying very hard to get to the bottom of this. If nothing else comes of this, maybe it will accelerate the process of “cleanup”.
Another thing that needs to be looked into is the problem of where registered sex offenders are allowed to live in this State. The rural areas are probably the only places they can go. I think they should be kept in jail for life if they aren’t executed. (Someone has suggested that at the very least they should be living in MONITORED groups — like leper colonies).
If that Child is dead, I hope they get Ol’Sparky back out of mothballs, and use it on whoever did it.
Two things I think we can be sure of: Misty has no intention of going to jail on anything, and the other is, Ron’s #1 priority is keeping her at home with him. I just hope it doesn’t end up a case where they have to haul these people in on lesser charges just to get them on something.
Another thought, even people who are mentally wanting have been known to pull off extraordinary feats where their children are concerned. Under the influence of an ovewhelming emotional motivation, people can pull things off that they would not ordinarily be able to do. They become extremely focused. Love is one possibility. Another is revenge of course. You could look at it like even a really dumb person would realize that if both children were taken, it would point to the mother — or someone helping her. So either the child was taken to safe place by “friends,” or is being held awaiting payment of money, or she was sold, or abucted by a lone predator and wound up dead, or there was an unintended accident, or she was simply murdered. I think most people think money is involved somehow.
If Misty is throwing her relatives “under the bus” as they say, with various hints, it may simply mean they know where she was that night. A lot hinges on that question.
Anyone out there have any theories that might work involving the idea that Crystal and Misty could have cut a deal?
I think her family is just mad she put the restraining order out there. So, the Croslins are going to hurt her, like she is hurting them.
@ Mitzi..Ron said he was 75% sure who did this..There all several possibilities, as everyone has stated,I have read several different times that Crystal didn’t get to Satsuma for 6 hrs when Haleigh went missing, but that Chad was in town the night before..It would be nice to know if Crystal had the kids that wknd as it was her turn, and who returned them..Did she, or did Chad..Maybe this is all about money..Its funny that a couple days before Haleigh goes missing,that Crystal is going to be taken to court for 12000. in back child support..Then you have Misty home from a 3 day hiatus..I’m half thinking, the only thing she is guilty of is not being there that night..I would sure like to know who Ron’s 75% is..If its true, there is all this molesting going on, and pedophiles in the area, that has to be a concern as well..It just seems odd that all this comes on that Monday…
It seems that where my thoughts are leading is in the direction of the three little piggies rather than the dirty half-dozen (unless it was Crystal and she had help).
This is a bit fuzzy right now, but it may get someone thinking. Maybe Misty had a deal with SOMEONE. It looks like it would have to be either Ron or Crystal. Only the deal wasn’t what she thought it was. The plan got screwed up and she doesn’t realize it was meant to be that way. (She may suspect later, but it looks like it’s too late. She feels like she’s in too deep. And someone wants her to feel that way.)
At first it was, after all, who is going to do anything to a seventeen year old who just had bad judgment and walked around the corner late at night, say, perhaps to her brother’s house?
Then she comes back and the situation is not what it was supposed to be, say, for instance, there’s only the girl gone (shades of Jessica Lunsford), the cops have to be called, etc. and she doesn’t have much time to think.
Well, the blanket business. Think JonBenet Ramsey. The blanket means you love the kid. It was all over the news.
Then her original idea of, so-and-so will back me up is now useless to her, because it is a threat rather than a safety. Having it known where she was is the last thing she wants. Or maybe, the last thing someone else wants.
About women in abusive situations, I would make this comment: Very often you aren’t abused until you know you are being abused–meaning someone is doing it on purpose, that you’ve been HAD. She is, after all, only seventeen, whatever her experiences are. Certain things just wouldn’t occur to her — no matter how clever or not clever she naturally is. Ever hear of the iron fist in the velvet glove? That’s an expression straight out of the South.
To Althea - I didn’t mean to insult the Clampetts. I liked all of them and I do not like any of the Croslin-Sheffield-Cummings bunch. I meant that they were the type who just didn’t know much about the outside world. e.g. the swimming pool was ‘the cement pond.’ I have read a lot about this case and have no idea of what happened to this poor beautiful child who did not have any kind of chance in this life, just as Misty had no chance at all. If she had turned out to be an A student, to be still in school and maybe could even be the prom queen, it would have had to be some kind of miracle. However, there are some children who have actually escaped from such a childhood and have made something of themselves. I am amazed at the immorality, lack of concern for the law and ignorance of these folks. To let a child quit school at the age of 13,live with a man 8 years older boggles one’s mind unless the child possibly has a serious mental illness and just can’t do well. Obviously, the Croslins were glad they didn’t have one more mouth to feed.
Great story Simon, It sure gives you a lot to think about.
I honestly don’t think Crystal had anything to do with this. Yes, she owed child support, but no Mother is going to take one child and leave the other in my opinion. The only way she might do that is if Haleigh had given her reason to think she was being sexually abused by someone. Then she might do that and feel she had time to get Jr later as he wasn’t in as much danger. Unfortunately I don’t think she could have kept her hidden this long though.
One thing I agree on here is that Misty looks absolutely terrified of something. I know everyone seems to think she’s afraid of Ron, but if she were that afraid of him, why would she go whoring around for 3 days with some guy? Why would she go back home to him if she thought he would beat the living daylights out of her? She’s afraid all right, but of what exactly? Rest assured, that girl knows something.
Just a statement I want to make yet again. Obviously there are those who have a preconceived notion of what country folks are, or trailer trash, or hillbilly, whatever you insist to call them.
I don’t know about Satsuma, but your typical “hillbilly” will invite you in and give you a hot meal or a place to stay if you are down and out. The only thing they might ask in return is a little hard work if they need help. They have solid family values.
Can we please try and stick to the facts and do a little less name calling. That’s not helping anyone. Remember, it’s still about finding Haleigh.
This child needs to be brought home.
I think the time is getting closer. I’m sure some of the family reads the blogs. They probably hate BNN. If no one else, BNN is breathing down their necks.
Great job to all involved.
Someone said something here that brought something to my mind. Remember in the beginning when Misty mentioned that a cousin was there, but she didn’t know his name? That he left town? Is that part of the MA family?
Did any more come out about this?
stormgardner - Good points about preconceived notions about country people and trailer trash etc. In my experience some of the most generous people I’ve met have been the poorest - with the least to offer in the way of hospitality for example. Some of the richest were the most selfish. It’s always easy for us to stereotype people. But the fact is that “white trash” (to use another vulgar term) live in million dollar mansions, too, and have no better manners, morals, character etc. than some of the worst people we’ve heard about in this case.
And what’s scary is that it’s much easier for them to fool us because they “look” like they ought to be decent people - hey, look at their house, car, clothes etc. More the fools us. Can’t judge a book by it’s cover. A saying as old as the hills but we keep forgetting it somehow.
I fully agree. I also wish that Theresa (Ron’s mom would take a polygraph for Tim Miller.
I would like to point out another possibility for Ron’s possible involvement…Ron’s temper. While upset over Misty possibly having sex with White Boy Greg, while they were fighting,did he accidentally lash out and strike Haleigh if she bugged him at the wrong moment? In his misdirected rage against Misty, did he accidentally hit his daughter so hard it killed her? And is Misty covering for Ron?
If so, it goes without saying that Ron’s mother (Theresa) probably would have and could have taken care of disposing of the body to cover up for her “baby” Ron (who has obviously NEVER grown up) and Misty could now be covering for Ron also. I notice in the video that polygrapher pointed out that Misty did not seem to be truthful when she said Ron had nothing to do with it.
Funny, that when Misty says, “Jump!” Ron seems to ask how high and then do as he is told? Case in point being when Cobra was at Memaw’s with Ron and Misty called him? Does Misty have something to hang over Ron’s head?
Did Ron marry Misty to keep his enemy close not because he thinks she is the only person who really knows what happened to his daughter but possibly because Misty may be the ONLY eyewitness?
I’m sorry, but what loving parent beside Casey Anthony gets a dadgummed tattoo (tattos btw are not CHEAP) when their daughter is missing? And what about the decapitated rat he put in that mailbox (he admitted this apparently to Tim Miller)….how fishy is that?
I have never had the impression that ron jumped when anyone called, last of all misty. If he went right to her when cobra was at memaws i would think it was because he thought she had something important to tell him or something to give him.
If I see anything I see her being intimidated by him, nervous around him.
I got the impression from the tape where Cobra tells about how he was talking with Ron at Memaws when Misty called Ron and Ron just basically shut up and then got up and went scurrying right home to the little woman. I’m not sure if that has always been the case, but something seems weird about that relationship.
I can’t see Ron being the kind of person who (if absolutely innocent himself) would tolerate (much less marry) some girl who he believes is withholding information regarding what happened to his daughter (as he keeps indicating to others). I don’t believe that b.s. sounding story for a second.
At the same time, if Ron did accidentally kill his daughter, Misty would no doubt be terrified of telling the police the truth for obvious reasons….especially if she watched Ron’s anger result in his own beloved daughter’s death and I’m sure Misty knows about Ron putting a decapitated rat in her brother’s mailbox.
I can’t help wondering if Misty wouldn’t need to be in a genuine witness protection plan in order to cough up the truth, but can’t see how she would qualify because I doubt she knows where Haleigh is or god forbid where haleigh’s body is…so how could her telling the truth help convict anyone? Therefore, how could she qualify for witness protection? Her testimony wouldn’t be valuable enough.
What if the only three people who know what happened are Ron, Theresa, and Misty, but only perhaps Theresa knows where the body is? I’m not saying that’s the case. I’m just offering a “what if” and wondering how one would handle an investigation based on that possible theory?
Regardless of what happened or who is responsible or how much Misty might know, I am convinced that if Misty told the truth about what happened, with that gang of criminals and drug addicts back there, you can bet she could just pretty much bend over and kiss her ass good-bye.
Which is why I think it is an exercise of futility to try to get Misty to talk. I also think that Ron knows it is an excercise of futility to try to get Misty to talk and it is unlikely he is losing too much sleep over that possibility (if he is the one who accidentally killed haleigh).
Maybe rat in the mailbox equals “You’d better not rat out Misty.”
I think that everyone here has some great theories for what may have happened. I am following this case closely too and I run so many different scenerios around in my head all the time. I try to use common sense and what my gut is telling me. I REALLY try to think that Ron is not a suspect in all of this. But as I look back on what has happened my opinion changes a lot. I think his behavior speaks volumes. During the 911 call he was freaked, furious, frantic. The next day on the news crying/sobbing with his mother. Oddly, you have never seen him get that emotional again. I would think that you’d see a tear or two. I also question the way he acts when any interviewer asks him about that night, he quickly contends that he was at work. That is all he says, “I don’t know, I was at work”. Like it’s his easy way out. I could be wrong but I think Misty knows, but she is naive and following Ron’s instructions. I guess, it’s hard to figure this out because I think from my standpoint, but if my child was missing for 7 months and I didn’t know where she was, I would be able to even eat. I also don’t like the way that Ron’s mother can’t answer simple questions from Nancy Grace about times and how she’s sticking up for Misty. Who, like someone said, had only been with Ron for 6 months. How can a teenager be welcomed into a family “as if she is the mother of those kids” after such a short time? How is it that Ron and Grandma had no qualms that the girl watching those 2 precious kids was a druggie and a drinker??
To pak31said, —
The problem with going down the “Ron did it” road (in my opinion) is that one starts to reach a conclusion that there was an extraordinary degree of plotting going on (and the thing is, most of it fits, psychologically, with details reported about what was going on in Ron’s life).
But you ask yourself at some point if Ron was smart enough to plan all this, even considering all the things that are actually accomplished in one swipe (think, now). I’ve seen that kind of plotting, and it was done by a WOMAN. That doesn’t mean a man couldn’t be that way. It simply means there may be something else going on here besides just Ronald. (In my opinion.) If there was an accident and a cover-up there is a problem of how much time it would have taken to figure out what to do. (The mis-direction. There is a whole lot of it.)
Yes, Misty is very likely the sacrificial lamb.
I meant to add, Of course their is a possibility that there was a plan AND an accident. And, no, I don’t believe Crystal was involved.
My feelings from the beginning were that Ron, having a history of physical abuse against Crystal and the children, got angry…for whatever reason and delivered a deadly blow to Haleigh. Misty witnessed it and was coerced/bullied/threatened by Ron into covering it up and disposing of Haleigh’s body. I also believe they concocted a story/scenario to relate to police which Misty didn’t or couldn’t follow…ie…calling 911 before he got home from work. Look at early interviews with media…he is directing her and pissed off at her because she’s not making eye contact with the interviewer. Ron is a control freak and Misty is obviously afraid of him. Misty needs to come forward and tell what happened.
This is how I see it-this is only my opinion and gut feelings concerning this entire situation.
Misty is the main suspect period. Why? Several reasons:
1.) She was jealous of Ron’s relationship with his daughter and felt her to be a threat to her lifestyle-who else would tell daddy that Misty was out partying and having a grand old time while daddy was at work? Afterall, she is 17 years old and clearly needs to be in high school or at least in evening GED classes and should have a day job at the local Dairy Queen.
2.) 99% of males adore their first born daughter unlike any other. Ron would not hurt his baby girl. He had custody of her, he has shown his responsibility to care for her or else the courts would of have placed her with another family member or in foster care. Ron was at work the night she suddenly vanished through a propped open trailer door (also check and see if neighbors/family had seen her prior to his leaving for work).
3.) I was 17 once, and I guarantee you that I did not go to bed until the wee hours of the morning (no matter how tired I was), and I also had an older male boyfriend at the time with 2 small children. One was a 5 yr old girl and the other was a 9 mo old male; I absolutely detested her, she was a spoiled little whiner that had her every whim catered to by her father and he too worked midnight/afternoon shifts at a steel mill. Thusly, I did not kill her or conveniently “prop open the back door”.
4.) Bio mom’s alibi checks out and regardless of the child support debt, does not seem to have enough brain cells to have orchestrated this plan, let alone carry it out. Always remember you cannot squeeze blood from a turnip, judgments can be launched,but, that will not alleviate any back debt owed. So, murder would not be her motive.
5.) Misty seems to have the aura of a chain smoking party hound, who is to say that she doesn’t have a huge debt with her local drug dealer? She could of propped open the back door and let her debtor(s) take his collateral. Also, I will bet my last dollar that she had an active sex life with that same debtor(s) and it would be in their best interests to keep their traps shut.
6.) Did you hear the distress in Ron’s voice when he came home and found out that his baby girl was “gone”? It was absolutely dripping with disdain and angst…”Bitch, you went and let my baby get stole..”
7.) Why was Misty not answering her cell phone? No 17 year old turns their cell phone off, a phone is an integral part of their makeup..no way she turned that phone off accidentally. She turned it off on purpose so she could not be interrogated by Ron (where are you, how’s the kids, what are you doing,what is all that noise in the background, etc.). Obviously Ron called her several times a day while he was working and she was used to it, she turned the phone off because she was off on a party binge.
8.) Why did they not take the boy they call “butterbean?” Because butterbean was not a threat to Misty and she probably actually loves the little guy. She was supposedly asleep in the same room as Hayliegh, so the abductor(s) crept right past her bed to pick the little girl up and cart her away without any noise? Please, I was born at night, but, it wasn’t last night–even if she was in the bathroom, was she in the toilet diving for pearls? The alibi totally does not add up..
9.) If Ron did do something to Hayleigh, consider the fact they are now divorcing, why would he divorce her if he knew she had something on him? He wouldn’t, he would keep her in his sights so he could make sure she did not rat him out. So, that theory is totally shot out of the water.
10.) Watch her body language, it is most definitely saying the opposite of what her lips convey. How do you know a teenager or a drug addict is lying? Simple, their lips are moving and hers are flapping loudly.
11.) Misty had decent legal representation , do you not think that this firm would of advised her to come forward with any information that implicated Ron and things would go much easier for her-maybe no jail time at all if she would help the prosecution? Why do you think her lawyer left her bottom along side the road? It was not just because of her interview on GMA, they were sick of dodging bullets and derogatory commentary shot at them via the media. Their credibility was definitely waning-why ruin the image the public has of this law firm and possibly jeopardize future business also taking note that she did this interview against her lawyers wishes??
12.) Misty had more motive than anyone, after all she had emotional/financial gain when it came time to her new boyfriend/hubby. Bottom line, the girl was in her way and she got rid of her obstacle.
These are the facts as I see them and again are only my opinion/analysis of the facts known as of this date.
Mark my words, law enforcement will be swooping down on her soon-they know she doesn’t have representation. This is their ace in the hole; she will crumble like bleu cheese at her next interrogation.
alethea said,in February 2nd, 2010 at 12:11 am Oh, they sold T-shirts and buttons. (Horrors!)
But You didn’t see Ron out there selling T-shirts, did you?
Gee, I wonder how the pictures of the missing children on the milk cartons get paid for?
Yea,you’re entitled to your opinion and I get it now…..Is it possible though he didn’t care to spend his own money to find her??
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