The Washington Post today ran a story today titled: “Democrats Want Wilson To Apologize in House.” If he doesn’t appear on the podium of the house, the Democratic leadership says he will be “formally admonished!”I’m not sure what’s involved in being formally admonished — it sounds very dramatic and possibly politically fatal, but whatever . . . it’s no surprise that the Democratic leadership wants to make the most of the issue — politics as usual!What’s bothersome to me is that, in the end, Gutless Joe Wilson apologized!Why apologize for telling the truth? Joe Wilson knew the truth — that’s what pushed him to the point of standing up and shouting “you lie” when Obama promised that no one in the country illegally would benefit from the healthcare legislation. It was Joe Wilson, along with another Congressman who wrote amendments to the proposed legislation calling for verification of citizenship status for anyone who is covered under the healthcare legislation. The amendments that were summarily rejected by the Democrats. Yet Joe Wilson apologized!From CBS News: Lawmakers Condemn Outburst at Obama.  Just moments after the president’s speech he was accosted by and threatened not by Democratic power brokers but by the Republican Leadership. Rather than accept whatever “punishment” they were threatening to dish up, Wilson apologized almost immediately.This is exactly what’s wrong with the Republican Party today and, in a sense, it symbolizes what’s wrong with America today. It takes guts to stand toe-to-toe with the opposition and verbally slug it out; and Joe Wilson did not have the courage of his convictions and did not tell them that he would see them all in Hell before he apologized. A man acting on his convictions doesn’t have to apologize, especially to the man who is leading the pack of people who are raping this country’s traditions, destroying this country’s economy and vandalizing this country’s Constitution.The very next day on every radio and TV show Joe Wilson did tell what he knew — what drove him to call Obama a liar; he told about the Democrat’s refusal to add verification of citizenship to the legislation making it obvious to him that the Democrats are willing to provide healthcare for every moving body, legal or illegal.I don’t know if it’s true or not but it’s being said in Conservative circles that right now there is an amnesty bill being prepared that would grant immediate citizenship to millions of illegals. Here’s a quote from a press release by ALIPAC (Americans for Legal Immigration PAC):
The evidence this (Obama’s lie) is found in countless major news reports indicating that President Obama and Senator Chuck Schumer (D-NY) intend to try and pass Comprehensive Immigration Reform Amnesty legislation soon, that would legalize millions of illegal immigrants and qualify them for all taxpayer benefits and jobs in America.
If this new focus on illegal immigrants (thanks to Joe Wilson’s outburst) helps plugs all the holes in the healthcare legislation the Dems can certainly go to Plan B: amnesty legislation. ‘Why would they want amnesty legislation?’ Simply because the poorest Americans tend to vote Democratic, they know that the Democratic Party (especially under Obama) is the party of taxing the rich and leveling the playing field.What’s happening to America is a damn shame but the worst part is that there are so many of our elected officials that care more about getting re-elected than they do about saving the United States from Obama’s tyranny.
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Follow-up comment rss or Leave a TrackbackI am sick and tired of you and your pals. Eight years was enough. He’s lying. You’re lying. You’ve ALL been lying for so long about so many things I don’t think you know what’s what anymore.
Wilson also said (right after his so-called “apology”) that “I will not be muzzled.”
That’s much more appropriate for the rabid, power-intoxicated A-hole that he is. And it negates his apology.
What do you think dems felt like for 8 years having to listen to Mr. Nitwit speak? But no one behaved like Wilson. He needs to be muzzled and obviously strapped into one of those backward jackets if he can’t behave any better than that.
But, no. Republicans can do and say whatever they want and it is ALWAYS RIGHT! Right, Mr. “I am going to continue whining until we get another republican in the White House?” God forbid you should spend the time thinking (of anyone besides yourselves).
Recently there has been a profusion of news regarding illegal aliens taking up residence in the United States. It is outrageous that this group is often referred to as “undocumented workers.” By whom and when was it decided that the rest of us must adopt this liberal and more compassionate nomenclature designed to soften the illegal status of a massive group of people, a multitude of whom are not employed? Is this gentler lingo being forced upon us the “newspeak” written by George Orwell in his prescient novel, “1984,” in which lies become truth and history is rewritten on a daily basis?
Joe Wilson told part of the truth when he said “you lie” but he also should have said “You lie, so do I, and probably everyone in this room”. Politicians have to lie to be elected and it is the norm in politics worldwide. Almost everyone in the world has lied, but politicians across most parties are dishonest. Joe Wilson is probably just as dishonest and Obama, along with many other politicians, including all of our past presidents. I’m not a big fan of American politics, and I am neither Democrat or Republican.
‘A man acting on his convictions doesn’t have to apologize, especially to the man who is leading the pack of people who are raping this country’s traditions, destroying this country’s economy and vandalizing this country’s Constitution.’
What if that man’s convictions are wrong? You Republicans are just ridiculous and dangerous. You talk about Christian values, but you don’t seem to know the 10 Commandments. “Thou shalt not lie or bare false witness.”
You are the ones who had a big part in rushing along the bankruptcy of this country with your wars and borrowing for wars. Of course, the citizens helped too with their over indulgent and hedonistic spending.
Why aren’t you talking about all that screaming you guys did about that horrible, voodoo laced, socialistic speech to America’s children that the President made this week? It didn’t turn out to be anything like your predictions, was it? Once again you show yourselves to be an ugly, mad, racist rabble that will take this country down because you cannot and will not retain the status quo. America must become inclusive to be competitive in a changing world.
I would respect you more if you just came out and said what you really stand for. Don’t do this 1930s style Nazism and try to catch people off guard with your doctrine. Just become a full blown 1940s style Nazi/Fascist and let everyone know exactly what you are.
President Obama is the President! Stop disrespecting him. Freedom of speech is not about madness and inciting violence. Just stop it!
Joe Wilson is one great American! Even though his outburst was more emotional he told the truth and that comes from the gut. Obama is one great orator but and even better LIAR! yes all politicians have lied but Obama is the king of liars in our time. how he can speak like a conservative and do the liberal atrocities he’s been able to get over on the american people. We have to have more Joe Wilson’s. I’m sorry he felt compelled to apologize.
not all republicans are perfect not all democrats are that bad realy but in my opinion yes they all lie but i honistly think 2 things about this country 1. it was started bi imagrents so new imagrents is fine if DONE LEGALY any 1 who suports illegals being here should be hung for treason and number 2. LEAVE OUR CONSTITUSION ALONE stop trying 2 take things like our guns back in the 20s or somewere around ther they took achahol away 10 years later the country was in shambles and we got it back wen you mess with pplz rights no mater what you beleve your screwing up and you can go 2 hell this country is not communist we dont all follow 1 mans shit so stop trying 2 act like half of our rights are rong and trying 2 force others belevs on every 1 like athetsts get over it you barly exist here who the fuck cares if god bless america is said (parden my bad spelling lol)
Then central issue is not Joe Wilson’s statement “You Lie”, he spoke the truth – a rarity in Washington It is that Obama has no concept of truth in satisfying his obsession to control healthcare. The lies he and his administration officials continue to tell are larger and more frequent than any other administration has indulged in, at this stage of power.
Seems there are differing views on this issue. POLITIFACTS rates Wilson the Liar: Obama’s said “the reforms I’m proposing would not apply to those who are here illegally,” which Wilson said was a “lie.” Actually, Obama can make a pretty thorough case that reform doesn’t apply to those here illegally. We don’t find the public option argument enough to make the case that Obama “lied.” We rate Wilson’s statement False.
Republicans are boorish, anti-intellectual, self-righteous hypocrits in my book – I have switched parties and will never go back to these traitors.
The central issue is not Joe Wilson’s statement but where he made his statement. He was no longer in a Town Hall meeting where he could call the shots. He was at a place and time where a certain protocol was operative to maintain a civil discourse during debate. If you have noticed President Obama has accepted his apology. The fuss now is raised by his colleagues who he also insulted. Most Republicans gave him a minor slap on the hand; most Democrats want an abject apology….for political reasons…but also to make sure Joe Wilson understands the rules. I think this became necessary when Joe Wilson seemed to waffle on his apology to the president.
The only way to guarantee that illegal immigrants arent covered is to have a national identity card for every american( citizen). However i am not sure if this would pass in congress Just think of all the republicans who would be up in arms over this . President Bush and his greedy party created our problem and President Obama is doing his best to get us out of it.
The gop fighting is no way to solve the problems
This is the real truth what the REPUBLICANS DID FOR US IN THE PAST. Now they want to Blame it on the Democrats ??? They are follies, not us, we know who created this cancer in our nation.All they know now is NO NO NO NO NO> NO Solutions ONLY OBSTRUCTIONS, THIS WONT ASST THEM.
On every major measurement, the Census Bureau report shows that the country lost ground during Bush’s two terms. While Bush was in office, the median household income declined, poverty increased, childhood poverty increased even more, and the number of Americans without health insurance spiked. By contrast, the country’s condition improved on each of those measures during Bill Clinton’s two terms, often substantially.
But those who voted for him are absolutely enraged at the possibility of any change.
What would Wilson do if his constituents were HISPANIC?? WOULD HE HAVE SHOUTED YOU LIE?? NOPE.
You got it its DIRTY POLITICS ON THE BACKS OF POOR MIGRANTS WHO CANNOT FEND FOR THEMSELVES.
ALMIGHTY GOD WILL DO JUSTICE. ALL HUMANS ARE EQUALLY CREATED BY ALMIGHTY GOD.
NO HUMAN IS ABOVE ANOTHER HUMAN IN ALMIGHTY GODS VISION.
PS: I ASSURE YOU’LL THAT HE WONT GET REELECTED, JUST LIKE THE 16 OUT OF 18 REPUBLICAN SENATORS THAT VOTED AGAINST IMMIGRATION REFORM.
NO ONE CAN WITHSTAND ALMIGHTY GODS PATH.
ALL HUMANS ARE EQUAL.
Truth,
When God gets elected to the Senate or House he will have a say, until then, the way it is is the way it is!
m2c,
“What do you think dems felt like for 8 years having to listen to Mr. Nitwit speak? But no one behaved like Wilson.” No one behaved like Wilson! What a joke! How many time was Bush booed in joint sessions by Dems? Many times!
Bush was not the greatest president and yes HE DID start this economic collapse but what has that to do with Obama trying to grow the government so large that ‘we the people’ are nothing but his servants. It’s happening — forget the partisan politics, forget what Bush did or didn’t do, just open your eyes to what Obama is doing!
Joe Wilson was correct about obama lying. And I hope that his apology was for the outburst and not the statement itself.
To all of the democraps and republicons here I would like to say, read the Constitution of The United States. It is the supreme law of the land! If you can not understand what it says ask someone who can understand it to explain it to you. There is no provision in the Constitution for this take over of the health care system.
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The bombardment of American fists at the doors of Congress must be heard, to make E-Verify a permanent illegal immigrant enforcement tool? It’s incredulous that we are winning small wars against our lawmakers beneficiaries–the special interest lobby. LEGISLATORS ARE FINALLY HEARING OUR ANGRY VOICES. Rep. Joe Wilson C-SC opened the eyes of millions of Americans, who are been left unaware of the cloaked–AMNESTY–committees that is going to rip the fabric of every voters life apart. I do not condone Rep.Joe Wilson (R-SC) outburst in the full Congress. But Rep. Wilson was–CORRECT! Unless there is some efficient mechanism to identify illegal immigrants applying for the government health care, such as revised E-Verify? They cannot be detected and delivered to ICE. Just indicating illegal immigrants wasn’t qualified in the wording is a waste of time, just like the billions spent on these people annually There’s also language in the senate bill that states that if one family member is an American citizen (anchor baby) then the entire household will be eligible for coverage. Any detail in the national media has been subdues or intentionally omitted, as with the crowds of Tea Party opponents. Sen. Harry Reid could be stretching his neck out for the headsman in his re-election campaign, including House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. They both have used their political influence in trying to overturn E-Verify. Pro-Illegal alien lawmakers could table it, under the “Sunset Provision” on September 30?
President Obama’s direction towards an unmentionable path to citizenship for all those who broke our law is abhorrent. After the controversial eruption in the Session of Congress, they surely must be aware that imposing immigration reform on the people could break them? Americans taxpayers are already supporting business welfare? Corporate entities want these destitute people here to exploit, but don’t want to pay for their health care, schooling or towards the massive numbers surviving in prison. They leave that to the fading middle class taxpayers who carry the tax burden? Over a decade has passed since illegal people started coming here in droves and with little or no laws, to blockade their arrival we are now talking over 20 million. Nor does it stop there? Owing to the clarion call of Amnesty ringing out in the slums and ghetto’s of foreign criminals, sick, elderly and those without means, from all over the world will descend on us. IT MEANS OVERPOPULATION?
Bad as it may be now, who is going to subsidize the new arrivals? Not the business cartels that’s for sure? Once again taxpayers will be heavily taxed to pay for the new shipment of poor, uneducated from every region. How can we expect to have any government public option for our own people, when our gates remain wide open for “Anchor Babies” and the illegal millions expecting a free handout? A nurse in a Nevada hospital indicated they have a row of beds of illegal immigrants on dialysis, which was costing weekly $18.000 dollars for each treatment. Tell me who pays for that? The US government pays a small portion; the rest is acquired from the hospital or taxpayer.
I want a single payer system for homeless veterans, seniors, single mothers with children and poor American families. But I refuse to pay for everybody who climbs, crawls under the fence or bluffs the Federal officer at shipping ports and airports of entry. It’s not our responsibility. DON’T WAIT! PESTER YOUR SENATOR OR REPRESENTATIVE TODAY AT 202-224-3121? Find true facts by GOOGLING NUMBERSUSA, JUDICIAL WATCH & IMMIGRATION COUNTERS
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