Simon, Thank you. It plainly states that she has seen the baby crying and saying she doesn’t like her daddy and doesn’t want to go. This is so sad.

You know, I have four children. They are aged 17, 14, 7 and 2.5….NOT ONE of them have ever said they hated me and that they didn’t want me or to go to me. It says a lot to me that this little girl says she doesn’t want to go with him.

Karen neither of my kids have said they hated me either. They might have gotten mad at me when they were little but they never told me they didn’t want to be with me.

This letter is what motivates Simon and I to continue taking the flack as we do on this case. We are actually worried about the well being of this little girl.

Val the letter was submited to the courts but it was ignored. Now they have taken it and it is now in the court documents.

I never said I never seen it, I said neither of mine ever said it to me or about me

Jan,
Got it, yeah mine never said that to my face either. Now that they are all grown, they have told me there were times, they didn’t like me at all. It is amazing the things you learn AFTER you can’t ground them anymore. LOL

We would rather not give the name out but the courts have accepted it now and it is in the records for the case now. We don’t want people bombarding the woman with hate mail and phone calls. It will all come out once they go to court with this

Val,
I never allowed my girls to fight with each other. I always told them they are sisters and should try to always compromise. I always bragged to people, my daughters never even argued, they got along so well.

They are both in their 30’s now and we had some friends from out of town as house guests. They had their 2 granddaughters with them. The little ones were fighting. I told my friends, how my girls NEVER fought.

Believe me, I got a rude awakening, they began to tell me, how they would shut their bedroom door and fight. They didn’t hit each other, they were afraid I would hear that, so they would pull each other’s hair! They could do that and not make noise. My middle daughter told me, she was afraid she would go bald. She said her older sister almost always got the best of her. I wish now, I would have let them argue when they needed to.

Thank you Jan, that was very kind of you.

Are you feeling better today?

Simon,
I didn’t mean to be rude, I got so happy about the documentation you revealed, I forgot to tell you I enjoyed the article. I love the witty quips that are always in your stories.

Anyway Good Article.

The CDC has just announced that the swine flu is virtually everywhere in the United States. Just what we need, maybe some of these child abusers and sexual predators will catch it. That would be poetic justice. I know, I know, that was ugly and I shouldn’t have said it.
But I was taught, if you think something bad, its as much of a sin as saying it. I thought it so I figured I wouldn’t be in anymore trouble for saying it. LOL

Simon, have they edited your comments in the Auburn Journal?

I’m sure it was different this morning, there also appears to be other comments missing?

My husband’s ex (they had joint custody) was trying to keep him from volunteering in their daughter’s classroom. She claimed that their daughter got so scared on the days that he was supposed to volunteer that she became too ill to attend school.

Dad stopped going, but took it to court.

Child’s GAL met with mom & child, then wanted to meet with dad & child. Told dad to pick child up from school to bring her to appointment. Told mom that this *would* happen & that she should not be there.

When dad got to the school, daughter ran up to him & took his hand. She took him around the playground, introducing him to all of her friends. Which, of course, we knew she would do. We knew she was not afraid of dad.

She lives with us now, 24/7, after mom went off the deep end, custody-wise and judge finally had no choice but to reverse primary residence. We really tried to live by the joint custody agreement, but simply could not give her up entirely as mom was asking us to do.

She’s a high school senior, now & sees dad & I active in the little kids’ schools. I know she wishes she had had the same when she was a child (mom was not involved in the schools herself - we never even saw her at a parent teacher conference, open house or choir concernt)

We try to make up for it, being as active as we can in the High School Boosters, but it’s not the same as having dad being a reading helper in second grade.

While ‘not doing anything if Aaliyah is being abused’ would be bad (very, very, very bad - tragic - horrible). It is *also* bad for Aaliyah to have to have her normal childhood disrupted by these accusations if they are not true.

My stepdaughter used to get upset at transfer times, too - when going to dad or when going to mom. Not because of a fear of either parent, specifically, but due to a fear of that transition time, when mom (and grandma) would start yelling crazy mean stuff at dad. Kids are smart - they know when their parents hate each other & it kills them inside to have to deal with that.

And, my own kids, intact family w/no abuse at all going on, had tantrums from time to time when told that they had to stop doing what they wanted to do and go to do something else (even if it was something that they also enjoyed doing).

I don’t know what’s true in this case. I do know that it’s sad for the child *either way*.

My question at this point would be that regardless of the outcome of the Aaliyah case (and my only hope is that the new judge does proceed lawfully and with the child’s best interest at heart - which is the purpose of having a person, not a machine, as the judge) how many children have been adversely affected by what seems to be blatant corruption of the Placer County legal system? What steps will Placer County take from this point forward to assure it’s citizens, the state of California, and the Federal government that it is now acting entirely within the law and is free of corrupting local influence? What investigations will take place and what transparency will there be to the public?

I would like to see a statement from Gov Schwarzenegger about this issue. I have always felt that Arnold is a honest man, that he is living the American dream and serving the country and his state as repayment for the opportunity this land has given him. I could be totally taken in by him and the many hours I spent watching his action flicks, but he is one of the very few politicians I have ever seen speak that I did not feel was lying to me. He seems to follow his heart and a statement from him regarding Placer County would mean a lot to me.

Any child can be alienated against the other parent. This mom’s attitude could have caused this child to fear her father. A source close to the family told me the child is much happier and more social since father got custody. This is telling.

Teri,

For a child to play with their stuffed animals and pretend they are dead, saying that mommy is dead, as this little girl supposedly does - that is not normal, happy and well adjusted behaviour. Where does she get the ideal that mommy is dead?

Before anyone says why do we believe Connie that this is going on - it isn’t just Connie that has said this happens.

But Talina, Connie’s family and her pscyhologist don’t matter. They are biased, remember?

You are back already? Ugh…….

haha Pippy you slay me. If you and your buddies put half the effort into helping, things would move forward faster.

I have repeatedly said that it is possible this whole case is BS. All I want is the damn truth. A little girl will win either way.

Why not get your little street gang to do something useful? Investigate, not sit on your asses and complain.

Use facts not pontification.

If you are so bought into dads story, get him or his lawyer to talk!

Amara will not talk, the father will not talk. But fear not, I do believe that reporting on events will change that.

One of the aspects of this case that a small but vocal group keep harping on is that we are being unfair.

That is not true. All we want is the truth. If Connie is telling us a pile of garbage, then she will end up in jail, and we will be pushing for that. What if Connie is telling the truth? Before you get your daggers out, why not take some time and read the record?

I can tell you right now, the little gang of hatemongers over this case are well known to us. What they possibly have to gain by bringing their garbage into BNN is beyond me.

I’ll offer some free advice, go and volunteer at your local homeless shelter, old age home, animal shelter. Put your excitement and enthusiasm into doing good!

You will feel better.

Simon Barrett

Hmm, I see the name change players are back.

You should choose something like “Muffin” instead of “Grizzly”, would put you in a much softer light.

Talina,
I don’t see a Grizzly either but there is a very good chance there is one if you know where to look or care to. I say no on both counts.

I wish people would remember why they say they are here, for the children. This is a chance to really make a difference. We can help this little girl. What can possibly anger anyone about that?

I don’t understand why some refuse to let go. There is no doubt, Bnn has lets others go BUT those people can’t let Bnn go!

Sassy is right, it was there and from now on whether they like it or not I will be removing ALL comments from the group that has been harassing us over this will be removed and they will be banned even though they think they are slick by using spoof IP’s

No it wasn’t you… sorry, I am just tired of them harassing us now. We aren’t even going to read the comments they leave. When I see it is one of them, I am automatically deleting them and banning them after

Sorry, but I am not going to play their childish games anymore

This whole thing reminds me of a bad break up.
People are acted like jilted lovers. One party just can’t let the other go. If my memory serves me, these people act like a couple of old immature boyfriends acted when I broke it off with them.

I think what I asked them way back then is still an appropriate question and one which I never got an answer. Have you no pride? It’s over, move on. You will find another who will appreciate all your qualities.

I don’t know if it will work with an internet site but I swear these folks really DO act much the same way. Being the dumpee is never easy. Is this cyber stocking?

What I really just don’t understand is if this child is really in danger, why is it wrong they we are trying to find out? Why discredit everything? There is NO evidence that he isn’t doing this…It makes me sick that someone would choose a “man” over a child.

The longer this goes on the more convinced I am that we are doing the right thing. There have been as many complaints from people saying this is a scam as the other kind of calls. We know the authorities are aware of this situation. They keep waving that reply from some uninvolved police guy. Well if this was really a fraud, wouldn’t Connie have aleady have been charged with that crime?

Like I said at the Auburn site, there are tests which can be given, to find out which parent is lying. If I were a father being accused of this horrific crime, I would demand they do polygraphs and stress test or one of them which would prove beyond doubt that I was innocent. The mother can’t make the father take the test, but an innocent father would do whatever he had to, to clear his name. He would DEMAND a test. Like if your child comes up missing, innocent parents say check me out now and then find the real kidnapper! The same principal works in this case.

By the time BNN found out about this situation it had gone too far to be ignored or for any responsible person to assume that everything’s fine because the authorities of Placer County say so or the father and his family say so. It just can’t be ignored.
Some people in positions of power ARE corrupt. We KNOW that. It happens. Some children are abused. We KNOW that. What we don’t know is what is actually going on with Aaliyah. And now we need to know that. The authorities in Placer County should be investigated thoroughly by third party, independent agencies just as the physical and mental well-being of Aaliyah should be investigated.

Woe be to the mother if she’s lying. And God help her if she’s ill. But if it turns out that way, the father should be glad he’s been cleared - no more doubts. And either way the healing can begin for Aaliyah and her future will be much brighter.
If I were to meet her 10 or 20 years from now and she asked me “why the heck did you insist on looking into my life?” I’d like to be able to say “Because we cared about you.” Otherwise I’d have to say. “Oh, Hi! I remember you. By the way, was your dad abusing you? I didn’t do anything because the authorities and your dad said you were okay.” What if she said, “But my mother told you I wasn’t.”
I really don’t want to have to say, “well, duh, sorry about that.”

m2c, I know, that’s what I’m saying. What type of people would choose to take the side of the alleged abuser? I do not get that. They hate Connie so much, for what? Why? It’s just crazy. They don’t like me, so they don’t like the Bedwells. What about little Aaliyah? It’s astounding….

Somebody, I already know why custody was taken from Connie. But the other family states that’s not true, but won’t elaborate on why.

Through my relationship with my husband & his daughter, I’ve seen how false accusations in a custody case (and these were never as bad as sexual abuse, either) can completely mess up a child’s psyche and childhood, while the accusation/defense/court-delay cycle steals years of settled time, parental attention & security to love and trust both parents (not to mention thousands & thousands of dollars) from a child’s life.

It is especially keen to me having been through that with his ex & daughter and then raising together the kids that we had after marrying. I see so very much missing from my stepdaughter’s life - things that neither dad nor mom had the time, energy & money to do for her, because it was all wasted in court proceedings - all for lies.

The accuser, if the allegations are false, is being just as abusive to their child as an actual physical abuser.

For the people who think that there is no harm in assuming the accusations are true until proven otherwise, try assuming for a moment that they are not true and then putting yourself into that child’s head & heart. Sure, she might not understand the innuendo that she is being coached to say. But, she does *feel* the hate & anger that mom has towards dad, both people who she loves and trusts. She knows that mom wants her to be afraid of dad. She loves mom & wants to please her. She also knows that dad is calm, loving her no matter what, whether she’s mean to mom or not. And, she will, one day, know what is true & have to deal with the knowledge that mom hated dad more than she loved her child.

And, try to remember back to when your child was 3 years old. And, imagine someone accusing you of something like this, threatening to take your child from you, taking precious time away from the time that you have to spend with your child - spending time alone with your child and telling your child that you are bad.

Someone is abusing this child. Someone is. And that is so very sad.

I don’t think there’s any way that we can know *who* it is, though. But, occams razor tells me that the most logical & likely answer is probably correct.

Karen,
Well I waited all night for you to get my joke and you missed it. cyber stocking? get it?
It’s different then cyber stalking. Coming in with faces covered get it? Back a few years ago petty crooks used to cover their faces with panty hose, you could still see them but they were distorted. That is what the other camp does here. cyber stocking, we still can figure out who they are. I figured for sure you would get it.

It was freaky, those guys always got caught, once the distortions were ironed out, same thing that goes on here. I just thought it was a funny comparsion. A play on words.

Yes, I have already, I also sent you an email.

Here too! I have some family coming in and as I woke up yesterday to pouring rain and a cold front I had to laugh. The ONLY week that this could happen. It’s supposed to be cold and rainy all week, except Friday should be up into the 80’s. Crazy for where I live!

anyway NOT anyone, sometimes my mind works faster then my fingers.

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20090519/ARTICLES/905191016/1002

if it can happen in gainsville, and many other places in the US how is it that people refuse to believe the case of the Bedwells has been fully ‘investigated’?
Had they done a thorough investigation and given custody to the grandparents or the mother after she completed classes and stayed otu fo trouble, this little angel would still be alive!!!
Keep Up the Good work ya’ll! Little Aaliyah needs all the help she can get.

gainesville com/article/20090519/ARTICLES/905191016/1002

if it can happen in gainsville, and many other places in the US how is it that people refuse to believe the case of the Bedwells has been fully ‘investigated’?
Had they done a thorough investigation and given custody to the grandparents or the mother after she completed classes and stayed otu fo trouble, this little angel would still be alive!!!
Keep Up the Good work ya’ll! Little Aaliyah needs all the help she can get.

Bunny, you are exactly correct. Every situation is different, even if they are similar. If everything was the same then the word different wouldn’t even exist. So everyone who says that we are trying to force our opinions on someone is so untrue. I know what I am trying to force, I am trying to force a complete investigation into these allegations. Force the agencies involved to actually do their job. I cannot believe that these people can sleep at night knowing that a child may be in danger, but “Oh, we talked to the him, he says everything is A-OK.” It happens every day, every where, but Connie is just a crazy loon that wants to ruin a “man’s” life. I just can’t stand it any longer. I’m working on some things, my family knows some people…..I am not stopping.

for sure their comments were very abusive and should be banned from any site they are on. Not because they disagree but because some of them are extremely abusive.
The ones left by the obvious family or friends of Derwood (sic) on the bubba the love sponge site were blatantly filthy language directed at the mother and her supporters, etc. I was absolutely appalled.
Yes I was victim of child abuse, and now a survivor, I was never listened to, but that does not mean my experiences should spill over into any case of another child being abused, as you are right, every case is different.
My own mother drove me insane in life with the ‘been there done that’. Made me feel less of a person because she had already ‘done that’ so my feelings didn’t seem to matter. Its a hard world out there and people like the Bedwells deserve Justice. Not a one sided circus.
THANK YOU so much Karenccc and everyone else for All of the work you have done on this case, and continue to do. All I want is answers so I can rest easy knowing little Aaliyah might not become one of the ’statistics’ of children who weren’t protected and are now lost to us.
I don’t even truly want to exclude the father from the childs life. I just want to know WHO is lying so they can get HELP and so Aaliyah can have what every child deserves and that is both parents. She isn’t even allowed her legal visitation at the moment and people can argue things have been done right in Placer, yet with that fact in the midst, its obvious we should all be able to agree on that. Aaliyah has a right to know both of her parents and One of them is being Kept From her right now.
Every night I pray that derwood wont hurt her anymore now that the word is out. That both parents will have EQUAL rights until the full investigation is done, and that has not happened, to the detriment of one little girl.
SO SAD how many children we can lose due to shoddy investigations. I read it happening almost daily and it breaks my heart. The fact most naysayers are able to find This article yet MISS all the other ones where a child ends up dead like kristina in gainsville, and then NOT want a full investigation is enough to make me puke.
BUT just the same I do want to hear their opinions since they do matter even if they differ form mine.
confused yet? lol, I am…
*in support of Aaliyah and true Justice*
-momof5

How does one prove that he is not doing something? What kind of evidence would substantiate that? Just curious.

Hey Papa, I don’t think it’s very fair that you are posting things about me and I cannot defend myself where you are. Why don’ you post the 100’s of posts by the others before I said what I said?????

Sorry Jan and Simon, but I am banned from their site. And I am SICK of him.

I hope you don’t mind me responding, wondermom, but I believe the protocol is giving Jan permission to release your e-mail to Karen or Anne by contacting her. She has posted her contact info, but I’m not sure where it is.

Kat, Thanks, but you haven’t read what he is saying elsewhere. It’s ok though, I don’t have to defend myself. Anyone with a brain can go back and read the 48 hours of bashing I received before I told off one person in particular.

To the onlookers, I tried to respond numerous times on your site and nothing ever went through. So you cyber stalkers can find my response elsewhere. It’s not that hard to find.

Wondermom, I’m leary of giving my email to anyone at this moment. If it’s ok with Jan, you can email her and then she can email me or something. I hope you understand. I don’t know about AnneA, but she will answer you. Jan’s email is jannyo@gmail.com

karen- i have been reading, and i will say i am not against some of the things he says, in particular about calling the father a pedophile…but also i don’t think the bedwell family, connie in particular should be called a lunatic, or a sociopath…

having said that, i don’t understand the anger against you and annea, as if you dreamt this entire thing up and conspired to dupe us, that is how i read it anyhow, the old ’shoot the messenger’ standby?

karen - i agree with you about the accusastions against you and annea, he can scream about it until he is without breath, to attack someone trying to help a stranger is pretty low…he thinks he is following a trail of logic, good for him, what he really is doing is following a dangerous path of personal outrage, and i hope at the end of it all his liver is going to be ok…(the liver is where many yogi’s believe we store our anger)

oops, sorry, I meant support!

well said m2c…as always!

m2c EVERYONE from Placer County is NOT saying this is a lie though. We have heard from several people from there that say they have seen this before in the county. Some cases similar to this, other cases not involving sexual abuse but it was cases that clearly showed corruption preventing a fair trial. If they had checked this case out thoroughly as they claimed then how come they only questioned one side of it, which so happens to only be from the father’s side, not the mother’s side. Not one of her witnesses has been questioned. The baby’s attorney hadn’t even bothered to look at the video until the judge ordered her to. The judge that ordered the attorney to look at it, said she was going home to look at it herself and suddenly the next time soon after in court she surprised everyone by removing herself from the case. Now this can be looked at in different ways, I know how I see it but not many will agree so I am holding my thoughts to myself for now.

All I know is that IF they found the father was innocent then the mother would have been arrested by now for trying to pull a hoax which is a crime. She hasn’t been as far as I know, I am sure her father or someone would have let us know.

We don’t want to hurt this child, but either way this child is being abused whether it be from one side or the other. Someone needs to save this child. I pray for her every day and night.

just replying,
I don’t have any problem believing that everyone you saw this case failed to act. If the word is out, the powers that be say leave it alone or else, it will be left. I am sure anyone working for these agencies have families to feed and couldn’t afford to go against the system. It can be real hard to be a lone voice in a group of people.

Just look what happened to Karen on this site and the ones who failed to fall in line and join the majority in ignoring this case were the next targets. All we did was say there may be something to this and we wanted to know.
Hard to believe you say, well then I have a problem entertaining any of the opinions you have put forth, because you really don’t know alot about people or human nature.

You continuously talk about one case, your husband’s and its from your point of view. I would not be afraid to guess, the real mother has a completely different view of what actually went down.

I totally agree Jan, someone needs to be helping this little girl. No matter who you believe in this case, there is at the core an innocent child who is being abused in one form or another.

I keep following this case because I too am concerned for, and praying for this baby girl. She is all that matters at the end of this story, she is truly a victim of something no child should have to endure.

Keep at it Jan and Simon, and keep us posted on what you uncover. I believe you when you say you are doing this for Aaliyah.

Hi Karen:

On my way to read it now. You need to remove that bullseye target you painted on your back..LOL

These people need a scapegoat. I’m thinking NoReply is someone you rubbed the wrong way here. You know the group I mean. Sticks and stones…blah blah blah

Hugs
Sassy

Ohhh Noreply is pro Connie…haha Of course they think it’s you my fellow blogger.

So sorry, MY BAD. I see where they may think it is you. Whoever it is, doesn’t know you at all. If they did, they would know that you do not change the screen name that you post with.

I’m sticking behind Jan and Simon no matter what. I have complete faith in them and the fact that they WILL get to the bottom of this and they WILL report it as the truth comes out… as just that, “the truth”.

I’ve had the misfortune of reading postings on another website that appears to be created b/c some of them got kicked off of this particular BNN site. I didn’t feel the need to post a comment on there. It is obvious that there is alot of hate and vindictiveness on that site and personally, I’m THANKFUL they’ve taken their hate elsewhere! I would not want to be associated with any of those mean people and all I can say to them is “God is watching.”

Keep the articles on the Aaliyah story coming jan and Simon.

That ShellyCA certainly had some harsh words about you (Karen) and Anne. She didn’t need to spell your names out. It is obvious who she was talking about.

The rest of us are referred to as:
Brainless Followers…..ROTF

It’s amazing all the claims Beast was making about Connie, yet we have yet to see one sneak peak of anything to back up the claims.

I want Aaliyah safe, no matter what the outcome is. Every child should be able to close their eyes at night and feel safe and loved.

Karenccc, nothing I’ve ever read on here leads me to believe that you were the cause of ANYONE being banned or leaving. It’s obvious by reading the first few lines of some of their comments what their “purpose” REALLY was for being here. Jan and Simon will put up with a certain amount of “crap” and then take the appropriate action necessary. IT is necessary to ban some people b/c they just plain can’t play nicely! Misery loves company as the old saying goes…..not the kind of company I like to keep! lol..

CHSAH, thank you, again. I have never blogged before this. And in all honesty, I didn’t even know that comments existed at first. When I couldn’t get anywhere with any of the other sites I tried to help Aaliyah, I remembered BNN, but didn’t even know that was the name. I get those Caylee Anthony google updates and that’s how I found BNN. Misery loves company, they must be having a blast!

Oh my gosh,,I am still reading all that stuff from ShellyCA

I can just picture in my head what an off the wall raving lunatic this person is. Her incessant babbling was unreal. I couldn’t be around a person like this in real life. I hope she has some anti anxiety pills prescribed for her.

I see where this Noreply is being accused of being several people. I think even Jan was mentioned. Geeesh.

Sassy, anti anxiety pills, lol. I’m going to sign off for the night. See you tomorrow! Thank you again for all your support and for making me laugh!

Karen sorry I missed your call. I just got the message. You will see by this post time how quickly things get passed on here. Since it so late, I won’t call you back tonight. I am however calling it a night and will talk to you in the morning.

Karen let them say what they want. I can look at myself in the mirror and know I am doing what I can to help a little 3 year old, who can’t help herself. In my way of thinking its the right thing to do. I am at peace with me.

Jan @ 5:49 - Thank you for clarifying and for the information.
By saying “Everyone in Placer County” I was generalizing for the sake of the point I was trying to make at the time. But that probably was not a good idea because it ended up coming across as a fact and an inaccurate one at that.
Sorry!

Also had to add this for the person who said ‘been there done that’.
you can easily turn that statement around with a lengthy explanation, but that does in no way make the very utterance of that statement any less inflammatory.

“Been there done that” only negates the feelings of any person you say it to. Sort of making their feelings seem less.

It also makes the lengthy explanation less likely to be heard by the person a statement like that effects.

It basically is like saying ‘well I’ve had the chance to make my mistakes, and learn from them, but you aren’t entitled to the same luxury’.

Kind of like hearing someone say their broken arm hurts, then saying OH been there Done That! Instead of expressing concern its kind of like blowing something or someones feelings off.
I know how infuriating it can be as my own mother has been doing it for years.

Just thought I could maybe plant a seed in the mind of the next guy who doesn’t really bother to see how inflammatory it truly is.

Bynnt @ 7:31 - I understand that phrase “been there, done that” can be a put down but it depends on how it’s said - which is pretty impossible to know on a written blog. I know I’ve said it at times as a way to say “I know how much that hurts.” Hopefully I’d follow it up with an “Ouch!” or something so the person would know what I meant. But if not, and if they can’t hear the tone of voice, then it can certainly come across as a put down.
As easy as blogging seems to be it really is difficult to try to be sure we’re communicating well.

OMG! I was just googling Aaliyah on youtube, there are videos of the exhanges there:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VWzfM14Ha4

I cannot watch. I got, I don’t even know how far I got, it was her first whimper. OMG, we need to do something. Jan and Simon, did you know about these?

VIDEO OF AALIYAH EXCHANGES

youtube.com/watch?v=7VWzfM14Ha4

Darryl posted this comment on the AJ but it keeps getting deleted. They are very selective with their editing!

It’s nice to share

It is heartbreaking listening to A crying for her mom.

I watched the video, its heart breaking to see this little girl crying like that. But when Mom gets her back, its like a celebration. She has the sweetest laugh, she is so precious.

AnneA, they are going to say that Connie coached her to scream like that. They are going to say ANYTHING to make sure no one believes that this little girl is terrified of her father.

I seriously do not understand the venom of WellSaid and ShelleyCA in the AJ comments.

I could totally understand if perhaps in some way they were connected to the Thompsons or Aaliyah but we all know they are not - it’s obvious who they are (little wave)

It’s twisted how people would risk endangering the safety of a little girl just because they were banned from an internet blog.

‘They’ are now outraged the video has been posted,

Privacy didn’t stop CA posting the cached connie myspace page the other day showing pictures of Dustin, they put his face out there first. She quickly got it deleted but not before lots saw it.

Concerend, when? When did they post her myspace page? How did CA even get it? I can’t believe them either. It’s a sad world and they obviously make it even worse. But with people like you, Concerend, and all here that want to save baby Aaliyah, it makes it a little more bareable.

Karen, my reply went into mod because of the link.

Sure J or S can get it to you

Thanks concerned, thought you stopped liking me too! LOL!

just replying, the point is that no one knows what is going on, the fact that there is an open investigation against him and no one is calling the mother’s witnesses (regardless if they are family and friends, they are still witnesses to the child’s behavior) and that a Dr. Saturely wants to do a non-biased pro-bono evaluation of all three of them and from what I’ve heard Dustin won’t accept, it makes me believe there is something wrong with a lot of things in this case. Whether it be the mother, which you believe, or the father, which I belive and the Placer County judicial system. A lot of things are wrong.

just replying,
I think you are confused. Mom is NOT NOT NOT the one that keeps dragging this to court. It is dad who is the only one who has had an attorney up until the past week or so. Dad is the one who has kept this is court. He is the legal bully here. NOT mom.

Concerned, I’d love to have a copy of that. Jan, can you give Concerned my email address. Do you mind Concerned, yesterday they were yelling at NoReply that he/she is me.

I have been (mostly) silently following this, although I have posted a few times on the AJ site under the name troynana still. Yes there was the cached myspace page put up yesterday, and I definitly took a look. His pictures were plastered all over it, therefore doing him no justice. Like I said in the AJ, (because people over there are of course saying her mother got her all worked up) either way one looks at this new video, the fact is there IS more evidence than the one “grainy staged video”, and it makes one wonder how much more evidence there is?

AnneA

Get Jan to email me, I can’t get back to you straight away but I’ll sort it

concerned,
I have not looked at any comments on AJ since this lastest link was posted. If they are indeed still angry at mom and not upset about this child, that tells me only one things and its loud and clear. These people could care less about this child. The only thing they care about is being right and to heck with the innocent child and the center of this case. This is beyond sad, way beyond. ANYONE and I do mean anyone who takes that stand, does NOT care about this child. I can’t understand, we see stories everyday about missing, murdered and abused children. When there is an opportunity to actually make a difference for a child, they do everything they can to hurt that mother and the child pays the price. Right or wrong, I won’t do anything to hurt this little girl, I will do no harm.

concerned,
I think Karen is the one that wants those deleted comments. I wouldn’t know what to do with them. Although there are those who say I play fancy with the net the truth is I am lucky to figure out my own email. Thank you so much for offereing tho. Reading them would just make me more convinced and honestly I am so convinced already, I work on this case daily. I do any and everything I can think of and have no personal life to speak of since I saw daddy’s worm. I just pray this case is fairly investigated before we all explode.

did anyone ever contact the ACLU? connie’s rights have been seriously violated.

So all the post supporting Mom and Aaliyah have been deleted huh? hmmmm I noticed one commenter said something about Karen being delusional for thinking Dad controlled the newspaper to. How delusional does she seem if all the positive comments for mom are gone. I know I saw several and posted a few myself.

troynana,
Yes I knew what you were saying. Now the story is Connie works the child up! There are none so blind as those who refuse to see. I still believe mom and I will be glad when all comes out.
If I were accused of this crime, and its a crime, I would be demanding some sort of polygraph test or stress test something to prove I am not guilty.
Nope not this dad, he just keeps trying to shut his accusers up.
This case is disturbing and has truly brought out the worst in some already questionable folks. I honestly didn’t realize people could be this cruel
They have joked about a woman’s rape, made fun of tragic stories, attacked the character of a reporter who provided them a place to discuss these cases. I have no doubts about the abuse of this child. Even if I did, I could not join the other side, cause no matter what the truth is, that side is the wrong side. I know you understand what I’m saying.
Troynana I saw your post and you did great! Kept your cool and got your point across.

I’ve been trying to comment on things because I know this child’s mother can’t talk, and I’d never want to do anything that could harm her or her child. But I do know that, though the alleged abuser has not volunteered for a polygraph test, the child’s mother is not only willing to take a polygraph test, but has, in fact, said she would do so. Because there has been such fuss over her accepting donations for her attorney fund, she is not comfortable with asking for money to fund a polygraph examiner. Some people have looked into it, and it does cost money. There are some people currently searching for polygraph examiners that would be willing to administer such a test without compensation.
Just throwing that out there…this child’s mother is willing to take polygraph test.
Personally, I’d like to see each party consent to one. It’s been said one side is willing, why not the other?

Denise, I think we all know that the mother would take one in a heartbeat. Someone isn’t going to go through all of this to refuse a test that would indicate whether or not she is lying. Only the liars refuse these, but I’m sure if the father did refuse they would all say he doesn’t have to take one, he’s already been proven innocent…blahblahblah

I’m surprised her lawyer wouldn’t have a lie detector specialist for his clients. Even if it’s not submissable, I’m sure he’s had it done for credibility purposes.

I believe all Bedwell family members would be tested as well, concerning what they have said they have witnessed.
No offers or interest from daddy’s camp on that either. hmmmmmm

Denise I to am biased, I totally believe Mom and Aaliyah. Without any reservations.

I can appreciate that she’d need someone impartial, but her lawyer would know of someone who would fill that requirement. If the father refuses to take it and the two lawyers did not have an agreement, then his lawyer would call it biased anyway. Still, I think a poly by a recognized specialist would be good for her regardless.

Exactly, AnneA! It puts the focus back where it belongs.

The truth is very important if that child is ever going to trust anyone again, especially from the parents.

Val,
You are absolutely right, and the longer this goes on the more trust issues there will be.

There ARE therapists for people with anger issues, maybe they can start a “banned blogger” therapy group? It might help them to get past their “issues” of being banned and focus on the fact that it’s a little girl’s welfare that is at stake in this….IT’S NOT ABOUT YOU AND YOUR ISSUES…GET OVER YOURSELVES. Let go of your anger against those trying to get to the bottom of this alleged abuse and then MAYBE you can see more clearer as to what is REALLY important in this case. I’m waiting patiently for the facts to come out.. AS should you!

Do you know that the only comments that were deleted were the comments from the supporters of Connie? So how could the people that got banned here be the reason the comment section got shut down? HMMMMM!!!! Obviously your view on things are a little different than the rest of us!

Connie has BEGGED for any testing deemed necessary by Dr. Saterly.

The Bedwell family and all witnesses have also agreed to take any test deemed necessary by Dr. Saterly and those professionals needed to conduct these third, neutral party tests in order to establish the truth.

The Bedwell’s weren’t asked. We volunteered!

As I was driving to work this morning I heard something interesting. I didn’t catch where this child lived but this is what he did. His father physically abused him regularly and no one listened when he told. He set up a camera and wait for his father to show true colors. One day dad walked in and pistol whipped this child. He was lucky to have caught it and posted it on you tube. Within hours of posting the father was arrested and child taken to safety.

Why is it another child is saved immediately from youtube posting and Aaliyah’s video doesn’t even get a news coverage? Much less LE response?

This makes me wonder..

From the Auborn Journal
“Victor Pecoraro, Auburn Police detective sergeant, said the department immediately investigated Aaliyah’s welfare after watching Bedwell’s video. The toddler was interviewed by a team of trained specialists and investigators questioned the father. He said the video is only a “piece of the puzzle.”

Was the video finially viewed and was this the latest finding?
Who stated that the video is only a piece of the puzzle?
Also, is it the law that Connie have access to this report?
If so do they have a court date to dispute it?

good morning everyone

Does anyone know what the process was to appoint the new judge? What I mean is, did the judge that recused herself appoint the new judge or did it go through some process judicially?

and to just replying

quote”You’re right - it is family court, not civil court. My mistake. Same result, though.
But, the thing is, and I know *you* have no way of knowing whether this is true or not, so I wouldn’t blame you for not believing it…”

if the line with *you* in it is referring to *ME*, as is the first line (where you admit I’m right lol)
……
please be aware I am in full support of the Bedwells.

Bunny, if you can tell me exactly where that is in the video, I will listen to it. I just can’t get past her screaming. I did watch the first exchange, but with it muted. Did anyone notice that this baby wouldn’t even TOUCH him? Her hands were up in the air and she was arching her back. She would not touch him! And you are right n ramierez, HE DOESN’T even try to console her! I watched the returns, and it made me cry how happy she was to see her mom and nana!

Jen-knee, when I spoke to the FBI agent in CA, he told me that if the abuse was shown on the video they could do something about it. So, that could be the difference.

Talina,
It seems if it is a new impartial judge there would be a lot of information to study. If that is the case it was probably a wise decision. I don’t think a judge would be foolish enough to step into this now and not give it unbiased attention.

Bunny, I didn’t see her fighting to keep her coat on, she said she wanted it off, and then mom was taking it off. I’m pretty sure we’re talking about the same part, after the second exchange, near the end, when they are in the courtyard area, right before she hands her kitty and wolf to the nana? or are you talking about a different part?

Karen,

In last week’s radio broadcast, Darrel (or one of the other guests) said that when Connie was denied visitation (I believe it was last Thursday) that she was told by the person running that facility that she could no longer visit Aaliyah there and would have to find another location for her supervised visits.

It would seem to me that Connie’s attorney should be able to get this before the judge and get this rectified.

Does anyone know what the new judge’s name is? We can do our own research if we can get the name.

karen,
it is almost to the end about 8 and 1/2 minutes in. she has her stuffed animals that she gives to mommy. then they try to take her coat off (its obviously not cold enough out for a winter coat) and she grabs the coat tightly trying to stop them from taking it off, then as she has the coat taken off she moves away while saying butt hurts. I am half deaf and I have to read lips so in addition to Cranking my audio I read her lips Three times and she I swear, she is saying butt hurts.

I have to place one more reply to the poster of BTDT. you did it again then tried to excuse it afterwards.. I hope you take more care with your words and your own loved ones.
-MOMOF5

Sorry to jump in but I was wondering about this video? Where can I see it?

and to the one lady who heard something different, this is why I asked if anyone else heard what I did. I wanted to be sure I wasn’t the only one hearing it. The word ON could have sounded like OFF to me and also look like it too, as I’m half deaf and also read lips. Thank you for clarifying that for me. Now right after that she moves away saying sOmething. sounded and looked like butt hurts to me. If any of you could please review that part and tell me if I am not hearing it right I would appreciate it. and yes it is the same part of the video you mention
thanks for checking up on my observations

Jen-knee, the link is up the page a bit, but if you go to youtube and in the search engine type “Aaliyah exchanges” it will come up.

Bunny, I listened to it from the time she was taken out of the car until the end, but I don’t think I heard “butt hurts”. She said “coat off” “take it off” a couple of times, but I didn’t hear butt hurts.

Little A is a beautiful vibrant child!

At the beginning I wasn’t sure what to believe about Aaliyah, I was lurking the first night it came up on BNN and have followed everything. I have literally read all there is out there, I’ve watched the tapes and come to the conclusion that a proper investigation just hasn’t been done.

I have seen how the system lets children down, it happens all the time.

It is tragic that Connie was forced to go the lengths of making everything public, I can’t even begin to imagine how desperate she was to do this.

Why no follow up in the Auburn Journal, this is one of their most viewed articles ever? If this was a scam on Connies part wouldn’t they have offered a retraction or apology to the Thompsons by now?

I’m sorry you are all getting abuse from some quarters, why can’t they see we are all just trying to help Aaliyah.

If you believe Connie or not, surely an independent assessment and lie detector tests all round is something we should all be calling for? Put an end to this once and for all for everyone’s sake.

The Bedwells have agreed to all of these measures to keep Aaliyah safe, any takers on the Thompson side?? I didn’t think so!

Nothing to hide then?

Thank you Marmite and welcome. I guess they are looking to find someone who will do the tests pro-bono because she doesn’t have the funds. I tried looking up free polygraph tests and lie detector tests, but am not finding much information.

troynana, but the one who is being punished now the worst is her daughter. I can’t imagine what she is going through or even what he is saying to her. What if he is telling her that “your mommy does’t love you anymore and does’t want you, that’s why she isn’t seeing you.” I fear that she will give up and stop fighting if he is saying something to this effect.

I know, Aaliyah is being punished the worst. I couldn’t imagine my three yr old little girl being away from me, let alone at the hands of someone who is abusing her, regardless of what kind, there is abuse. I first learned of this case because I live in Florida and heard it on the radio. It also hits home because I have a 3 yr old daughter, a 2 year old son, and a little one on the way. I look at my daughter and become filled with sadness that someone did that to a little girl just like her, innocent, helpless, and who most of all is supposed to think of her daddy as her hero, but doesn’t get that chance. I hope little Aaliyah gets to see her Mommy today.

Karen, haha, my husband and I just wanted to have kids close together before I get into midwifery school. Then, maybe have one or two after..we like big families! And luckily I am 23 and my husband is 27, so we have awhile:)

I didn’t follow Caylee’s story too close, but was horrified the day I watched them find child remains. I knew it was her. I have tried to follow Haleigh Cumming’s case, but there isn’t much info at all. I guess stories such as these just hit home for some people. I think the reason I have followed Aaliyah’s story so close is because there is hope for this little girl. I like happy ending’s and I think every 3 yr old deserves one.

When I watched the video yesterday of the exchange, I did break into tears, first because it was just heartbreaking to watch, and second because my daughter (who was supposed to be napping) snuck downstairs and heard and saw Aaliyah crying and was worried about why that little girl was crying. It’s sad that if I was to tell my daughter the truth I would have had to say “Well she’s crying because she’s afraid to go with her daddy”. I guarantee my daughter would look at me with a blank face and ask “Why would someone be afraid of their daddy?” And it hurts that not all children are able to have a relationship with their parents like they should.

OMG I love it, banned bloggers therapy group!!!
That is the funniest thing said in days and days.

People can’t see what they choose not to see. Karen you are so right, karma is a fact. I hate it but there is a whole lot of bad karma that has been generated from this case.

I wonder if it would do any good to do a massive mailing to the govenator and beg him to please send his people in to take this county down and build it back up with honest, decent people.

AnneA, I don’t remember saying karma is a fact. But I did say that Connie’s daughter is feeling the worst of this right now.

Karen you are right, you didn’t say that, it was Carol. I knew I saw it, now I remember where and who. Well it is so true anyway. Karma will bite some people in the butt.

Denise yes I want to do whatever I can do to get this baby safe. This is an outrage. It has dragged on and on. People want to say this is a scam, well the powers that be would like nothing better then to arrest Connie Bedwell on a charges of running a scam. They
can’t, this is not a scam. This is a baby being abused by the man she should be able to trust most.

Denise, I just joined your group. Thank you. You should also bring your force here! We’d love to have all of you.

n ramirez, I knew someone was going to ask that question, I hope you answered them just as you did here. It doesn’t matter how old the video is. She clearly does not like him.

I can’t remember the last time I woke up or went to sleep without Aaliyah on my mind. It seems like its been an eternity. How long must it feel for Aaliyah. God please protect this child

Concerned, I received your email. Thank you so much!

Karen,
I feel like we have let her down. My heart is heavy today and I know her’s is to. We have to do something today. NOW YESTERDAY. She has been waiting to be saved for far to long.

I don’t know if anyone else asked the question regarding how old the video is but I am one, if not the only one that did.

Some of you say what does it matter? The more recent these videos are, IMO, the harder it is for the father’s side to explain them away as unimportant or out of context. Do we know when the supervised visits with Connie started?

For instance, let’s say it’s a video that was taken not too long after the shared custody started, their argument can be that she is still getting adjusted to the time away from her mommy. However, if this or videos like this are far more recent than right when the shared custody started, then that argument flies right out the window.

I did finally watch the video even after seeing how upsetting it was to those of you that watched it. I could barely stand it. For the life of me, I can not see how any parent, be it mother or father, can live with themself taking a child that is obviously distressed about going. Heartless is all I can say. Figure out another way to ease the child into the shared custody if the child is used to spending the majority of their time with one of the parents (if nothing untoward is going on that is making the child act like this) instead of taking a hysterical child away. No telling how long she screamed like that. And he just acts like there is nothing at all wrong with the way she is acting. Very cold hearted.

My son and his daughter’s mother share custody of their 20 month old. He has her every weekend from noon Sat to Sund evening and then a couple of nights during the week. She is just as excited to see one of them as she is the other and is always anxious and all smiles to see the one that she is being transferred to at the time. That’s the way it should be, not what is shown on this video. My God!

n ramirez,
Statistics are NOT in her favor. He is abusing her and in fact, the frequency may very well have increased! He has gotten by with this for so long and he thinks he won’t ever be exposed. Connie is his accuser, and he has convinced many she is a mental case. He is taking great plesasure in doing this. He feels he is above the law.

Sorry it took so long to come back on the statistic question, my mouse wouldn’t move and I couldn’t send my comment. More of my extraordinary puter skills jumping out at you all.

Karen I’m not giving up, I just wish we could let Aaliyah we are fighting for her. I wish she could understand what I don’t even understand. I know the wheels of justice turn slow but NOT with a child. Not when her very life is in danger. We as adults can’t explain to this little angel, why its taking so long. I for one can’t justify it in my mind. A baby’s life is in danger, save her. If she were standing on a 4th story window ledge, we would get her off quick

In this country we punish mothers who don’t protect their children, NOW we are punishing one who does. This is outrageous!

Ok ladies we all agree, Aaliyah should have been rescued yesterday. What should we do now? We need a leader of sorts. Someone who can coordinate our efforts and pass the word on who are targeting to get their attention. A couple of voices can be easily drowned out but many voices not so easy to.

Gosh its a good thing we didn’t have puters back when Betsy Ross called for help to sew the American flag, we still wouldn’t have one. Hello am I alone here? Ladies grab your needles and thread and lets make this happen.

Maybe some of this information can be of help to us:

UNDERSTANDING THE BATTERER

http://www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/understanding-the-batterer-in-visitation-and-custody-disputes.pdf

if I even knew where to begin, I would lead, unfortunately Im as lost as some are as to what to do.
I did have an idea for Jan & Simon tho (or anyone else who can follow up with people who live in placer and have recently and some not so recently posted on the forum for this old article)
there are several who felt it important to mention that they were also abused by the Placer Courts, etc. They do list apparently real names. Maybe they can be contacted (or found) and interviewed, as a compilation of the many who felt they suffered at the mercy (or not) of the law in Placer County.
Maybe we could start a blog forum for those who have been affected to come forward as further proof of the miscarriage of justice which has been going on for decades in Placer.
I know it might sound like a dumb idea, but maybe since ’sOmeone’ is printing all these articles and comments out, they will stumble across facts that Connie is not the only one who has suffered this brand of injustice.

I’m going to talk to a relative who’s husband is a cop in the town we live in. Though we don’t live in California, and I don’t think he could do much considering that fact, I do think he might be able to give me some advice. He might be able to suggest something can help.
I also have a friend that ALMOST a psychologist…she’s very near getting her degree and I think she also has a degree in criminal justice. I am going to see if she can’t offer advice.
Lastly (for now), I have a friend that used to be a family social worker in California. Her job was to work with families and parents that lost custody and help them get into a position to get their kids back, as long as they were deemed capable. I bet she can offer some advice, and MAYBE, HOPEFULLY she still has some contacts.
I’d love to communicate outside of this blog…but I don’t want to post my email address. But I do have a myspace page: http://www.myspace.com/denisep313

Also, I see people are asking when the “exchange” video was made. I am not certain, but I *think* it was about a year ago.
I’ll ask to be sure, but I do recall it was around that time when my husband’s brother began telling us about this.

Okay, good news…the cop hubby of the relative I mentioned…he is willing to take a look at everything and at the least, give his opinion. I think that’s a good start.

Currently uploading stuff to email to the local PD, simply for an outside view and advice. And because the cop family member specifically requested I send it to his work email…I imagine he’ll show his cop friends. We live in what many call “redneck” country…men don’t get away with this around here. I can only hope I am not adrift in wishful thinking that he had a reason for asking me to send it to his work email at the PD.

Wondermom, if you want, you can ask Jan for my email address, I’ll be willing to give it to you. I’d like to talk with the lawyer and the social worker. Jan, I give you permission to give wondermom my email.

Denise, I will ask for a friend address on your myspace.

CHSAH, I know what they call it…pretty funny!

Dustin has had visitation with the child since she was 8 months old.

The Ped’s excuse that the child didn’t know him is an out right lie and deception. Dustin and the child had established enough of a relationship that at one point in time when she saw him she would run to him saying da da, and happy to see him.

Since the physical and then sexual abuse started, this has been her reaction to him at every parental exchange. After 10+ months in his sole care, the child still has these same reactions as shown in the exchange videos when any one of Thompson’s come to pick her up from Connie’s supervised visitation. This was again documented by Betty the visitation supervisor, about two weeks ago, before Moreen Rodarte, owner of “About the Children” refused to allow Connie anymore visitations there.

It’s just sickening to see how these people twist and spin the obvious.

KarenCCC: The first link to the article you found was full of so much information pertaining to Aaliyah’s case…and sadly my own marital issues.

I copied & pasted some parts that I found seriously disturbing when it comes to little Aaliyah…

***Batterers who do abuse their children can be convincing at portraying themselves as victims of a deliberate strategy on the part
of the victim in order to derail proper investigating***

This part of the article bothered me to no end. This is OBVIOUSLY going on–yet why isn’t it being considered?? Does anyone know if the “investigation” triggered by Connie’s interview with the FBI is getting anywhere?? Or is the father’s lies & deception just making this potentially successful investigation come to a cold hard stop??

****Assessing the safety of children with batterers during unsupervised visitation requires careful examination of all available evidence, with as few preconceptions as possible about the credibility of either party. Even a highly skilled service provider cannot “just tell” that an alleged abuser is telling the truth or is not dangerous, even after several hours of interviews and even with the assistance of psychological testing.****

This very part of this article should go in favor to Connie’s accusations. Even if Joe Pshycologist watched the father and daughter together and said “well they seemed okay to me”…why is this ONE person allowed to sway the “truth” in one parent’s favor. And from my understanding the investigation…”the supervised visits” between the father and Aaliyah weren’t even that long in duration. Why the quick conclusion?? And why the immediate decesion in whom this little girl spends the majority of her time with? I mean…this could go both ways…mother or father. When such an accusation is thrown in the air…why is that custodial rights were quickly given to one party??

Denise,
Yes, it would be great if another police department looked into this. There can’t be to many people asking for answers to all the questions that come up in this case.
Please keep us advised as to where your relative ends up. If he gets any answers, it would be nice.

I did, and I pretty much read all the posts too. It was quite entertaining. Spacely, if you are still reading these posts, you are quite funny and can hold your ground very well. And ksue, way to hold your own as well.
AnneA, I saw that a lot of people have requested a refund from Connie. It’s just disgusting. For anyone to do the right thing and then take it away because of two groups of people who want to bury the truth just makes me sick to my stomach. Also, Butters, you have never seen me post on any other blog other than Oprah.com and Cafemom. And Oprah was four days before I posted here and Cafemom was two days after I posted here. So you go ahead and find that blog, sweetie…..I’d love to see it.

I saw this on Bubba’s site:

Tim Bedwell - Connie Father
May 21st, 2009 at 7:57 pm
TO #308

This is a blatant attempt by Dustin David Thompson the Child Molester and his clan to deter those who want to donate to help Connie.

NOT ONE PERSON HAS REQUESTED A REFUND OF THEIR DONATION … but if anyone does the instructions for obtaining your refund is; go to http://www.bloggernews.net and post your receipt # on the most current article about Aaliyah, and I will contact you and set up the refund. It’s that simple.

Thank you to all who have donated their time to help, and those who for lack of time donated money. We are eternally grateful.

As for Dr. Saterly’s offer;

Connie requested any testing deemed necessary by Dr. Saterly.

The Bedwell family and all witnesses have also agreed to take any test deemed necessary by Dr. Saterly and those professionals needed to conduct these third, neutral party tests in order to establish the truth.

Connie and the Bedwell’s are looking for the opportunity to be tested and interviewed by Dr. Saterly.

To my knowledge, Connie is involved in no such group. I may be wrong. But I don’t think she is. I do know that she spends every moment of her day trying desperately to find a way to be taken seriously, to not be cast aside as a “delusional”, “narcissist”, “vindictive” mother hell bent on regaining custody.
I do also know that Connie has no clue where to turn for help. And I must say, I can’t say I would either.
Seriously, all she has done was document what she could, when she was ordered to no longer make videos, she stopped. As I see it, and this is just my own opinion based upon the knowledge I have, she thought if she followed the rules then justice would be done. When nothing was done to her satisfaction (and by that I mean, as a mother fighting to protect her child and not being taken seriously) she resorted to posting things on the internet. I truly believe she doesn’t know what to do, where to turn, who to ask for help, etc.
I do think that, since she began going public, a lot of people have suggested groups, advocates, etc. that she could turn to, and she has been contacting anyone that might be able to help. Asking for money to fund an attorney was just the first thing she knew to do, and I can’t fault that. It was only after she went public via the net when people suggested other help, and she IS WILLING TO ACCEPT HELP, EVEN IF IT IS NOT MONETARY.
As far as abusers being manipulative…I’ve had to bite my tongue. None of this is about me or my own experiences. BUT, my step father sexually abused me for years, and made porn videos of me. Even when my mother thought she knew, he would convince her she was imagining it. Even when I went to the police, and EVEN AFTER HE ADMITTED I WASN’T LYING, he convinced the court that he was “play wrestling” with me, and I took it the wrong way.
These people are charming, so so very charming…they can sell you ocean front property in frickin’ Colorado!
Okay, I ranted. I apologize.

Denise-I’ve been checking back frquently in hopes of some kind of update as well. I too am frustrated.

I want to sit here and yell and scream about updates but I feel bad when I’ve done nothing more than call a few numbers and pray. I just don’t know what else to do at this point.

Are the journalist staled?

I do apologize…I hope I did not come across as harsh, judgemental, or demanding…I know anyone that cares about this, and is invested in this whole heartedly is just as frustrated as I am, heck if not more so.
I just know that sometimes Jan and Simon know stuff before others do…and I know they are busy…it’s just difficult to sit and wait for things to happen.
I’m still waiting to hear from the cop family member. He works from 6pm until 6am most nights of the week, and I caught him yesterday at a good time.
I’m sure it will be a couple of days before he can really look at what I’ve sent him.
So, until then…I don’t know.
MANY THANKS TO EVERYONE THAT CARES ABOUT THIS CHILD!!
I have never said I know exactly what is going on…but I know that my gut tells me not to let this go.

Denise, I don’t think you came across in any other way, than just a caring person. You A-Ok in my book

Denise, you most certainly did not come off as harsh, judgmental or demanding in my eyes. I think it’s just we all know this little girl needs help and we want it NOW rather than later. Please keep us updated on what you find out as well.

CHSAH, I think Spacely is a guy…I’m not sure, but from what I’ve read, I would say he’s a guy????? AnneA?

Good morning everyone, I won’t be here today, my duaghter is graduating from high school today.

Jan and Simon, if you could, please let us know anything that might have happened since this article was written.

Everyone please have a wonderful day and I will check in later tonight.

Karen

There is a statistic on divorce and custody desputes where ” its rare and unlikely for one party to claim sexual child abuse after a custody despute has started ” —

Which is surprising considering this is what the father is claiming Connie to be doing. Without video documentation of her making sexually suggestive remarks…and a video of her clearly uncomfortable with one party…I would think in one’s mind that they would consider that this father is just trying to redirect the actual evidence of a little girl crying out for help for a mother just trying to get her daughter back…

But this doesn’t even make sense if the above is true and Connie lost custody due to talking about “her daughter acting like a little girl who’s being sexually abused & physically abused” …. wouldn’t investigators ask them selves “why would this mother be starting such chaos when she already shares JOINT custody of her daughter with her ex (normal divorce situation pertaining children)?”

I wish a “biased” party could answer that question for me.

Everyone on this forum is on the same side so we draw the same conclusions but I seriously would like to hear “a biased” opinion on that matter…? Why would a mother with joint custody lie about her daughter’s sexual abuse in order to get full custody? Because THAT is what happened. Not she has no custody and THEN she starting accusing the father of sexual molestation.

Can someone please explain the other party’s arguement??

Hi Karen & Everyone,
First let me address Karen’s question regarding Spacely. I think he is indeed a guy. I am kind of confused about what is going on as to why Denise has concerns about being harsh with Spacely. I don’t understand what has happened. I have not been able to find any posting by Spacely that would warrant any problems. So I will just add my two cents as I don’t know what is going on and I do NOT want to add any fuel to any fire.

I began reading Bnn articles in December 2008. I started reading the blogs sometime in January 2009. I first posted a comment sometime late March I believe. The regulars on this site didn’t know me, but I was fairly familiar with them. Reading comments made by others gives one kind of a window into their hearts.

I don’t know what happened between Denise and Spacely. Denise is new to me, my observations of her are very positive. Her comments are intelligent and heart felt. She is someone who is kind, caring and is really concerned about children. She is a true asset to this cause.

Spacely is a blogger who has always stood out.
He seems to approach every case armed with all the facts available. I get the impression from reading his comments, he does the required research and makes decisions based on logic. He is one of those key people that every case needs to move forward. He is intelligent, articulate and determined to find the truth. He strikes me as a person who is not willing to blindly adopt others versions of anything. He prefers to do the work and make his own decisions. He commands respect rather than demand it. When he speaks, people listen. He radiates knowledge and caring about these kids in danger. I can’t count the times I have seen him navigate disagreements. He lets others state their opinions. He then comes back, with his own idea’s, supported by the facts that led him to reach his conclusions. His debating style is nothing short of genius. Personally I don’t always agree with him, but I always respect him. I know the stand he takes, on any issue, is based in facts rather then emotions. I really believe he is sincere and his concern for the kids is heartfelt.

I don’t know what the problem is but I honestly think these are two people who are truly interested in the welfare of this child. So whatever happens, they both want the same thing and it will work itself out.

I’m confused. I don’t see any posts by Spacely. Guess I missed them.

Thanks for the repy, AnneA, I thought I was losing it. Spacely is as you described him from what I’ve read over this year.

Val, yes I stand by my assessment of him and Denise. They are both quality folks and seeing the comments made by Denise and others with no idea what Spacely may have posted, I just know from reading his comments, he would never be rude or unkind without provacation. I’m equally confident that Denise would never say anything out of line. The only thing I am sure of is they are both good people, so there has to be some kind of misunderstanding, if the problem is serious.

just checking to see if anything new is up. I found Mr. Bedwells comment interesting and things that make you go hmmmmmmm….definately food for thought. I continue to pray this is resolved soon for little Aaliyah.

had to chuckle…the Auburn Urinal (heeeee…heeee…), that’s what I’d heard it referred to as also…(heeee…heee…)

It is my understanding that Connie’s big crime was the claims of abuse. She has been penalized and villified for trying to protect her child. A corrupt system, took her child for trying to expose the abuse. Once that has been proven, how could they refuse to return Aaliyah to the mother, who would not stop until she stopped the abuse. She has done NOTHING to justify the courts actions. She is the ONLY one who should get Aaliyah.

Anna said: It is my understanding that Connie’s big crime was the claims of abuse. She has been penalized and villified for trying to protect her child.

The Auburn Journal has reported that when Bedwell (Connie) was asked why the court gave the father custody leaving Connie with only visitation, stated the below.

“The parents are separated and a judge has given the father full custody of his daughter.
Currently, Bedwell can only see her daughter during supervised visits.
When asked why, Bedwell did not elaborate but said that many officials do not believe her story.”

Connie does not want to elaborate…..If the custody issue is valid or not, I would not know. But maybe Tim Bedwell can share this unless it becomes an issue of MYOB. In such a case, is playing against ones own hand.

Chip first off the parents were NEVER married. The worm would NOT even sign the birth cerificate. He wanted nothing to do with Aaliyah until he could USE her to hurt her mother. When Connie decided NOT to put up with his abuse any longer, she had to be punished. She was HIS PROPERTY. He treated her like a disobedient child and this is all about punishing Connie not loving the child.
If there was something the courts and LE could find against Connie, they would have put it out there, just to shut all of us up. They have NOTHING, because there IS NOTHING. Her crime was FIRST leaving daddy and then it was reporting the abuse. Connie’s story is NOT unique, the only thing different with her is she LIVED to tell the truth. She was being abused by the worm and as in all cases like this the abuse escalated. She got out. The best way for the worm to make her pay was to use her child.

Ok, I haven’t read allthe posts in the thread, but I see Spacely is among a few. I don’t post in other threads, so I said to you AnneA, that I read the article by Simon about Haliegh and that I had read almost all of the posts in that thread and it got pretty heated. I said “Spacely, if you still read these posts, blah, blah, blah and ksue could hold her own too.” And the CHSAH said that she thought that Spacely was funny and that “she” could hold her own, so I said, “I don’t think Spacely is a girl.” Sorry folks! Didn’t mean to confuse.

Anna said:Chip first off the parents were NEVER married. The worm would NOT even sign the birth cerificate. He wanted nothing to do with Aaliyah until he could USE her to hurt her mother. When Connie decided NOT to put up with his abuse any longer, she had to be punished. She was HIS PROPERTY. He treated her like a disobedient child and this is all about punishing Connie not loving the child.
If there was something the courts and LE could find against Connie, they would have put it out there, just to shut all of us up. They have NOTHING, because there IS NOTHING. Her crime was FIRST leaving daddy and then it was reporting the abuse. Connie’s story is NOT unique, the only thing different with her is she LIVED to tell the truth. She was being abused by the worm and as in all cases like this the abuse escalated. She got out. The best way for the worm to make her pay was to use her child.

Married, not married, they had a child together and there was a custody issue. The father not signing the birth certificate is Connie’s claim and how would you know the circumstances? Hypothetically speaking…maybe she slept with multiple people and he needed a DNA test…who knows.

You said and I quote:
“She was being abused by the worm and as in all cases like this the abuse escalated.”

This is still unfounded if Aaliyah is actually being abused or not, especially after numerous investigations. I’m sympathetic to this case which is why I am following it and hope that justice is done for either party By nature, I’m not a side player especially when I don’t hear the father’s side of the story so I am neutral. You’re accusing someone with heresies and claims from the mother and you cannot personally corroborate her claims.

Let’s not forget Susan Smith who drowned her children and then blamed it on a Black gentlemen and there was a man hunt and a man was falsely accused. I don’t put nothing past no one. Only God can know the mind that plots evil.

But, I will say this and is every man’s and woman’s right is “presumption of innocence.” It is a legal right of a person to be viewed innocent until proven guilty. Even Nancy Grace does not take to the airwaves without evidence against a person. Is there burden of proof against the father? You cannot answer this. If this man is found innocent and really is, he will remain guilty in your eyes and proof of his innocence will be a contrived one for you.

I was drinking some coffee this morning when I started thinking about Aaliyah’s grandparents.

If Aaliyah were my daughter and I were Connie. I think I would of done everything Connie has done so far. But with everything working so against her…I’m worried…REALLY worried about what is going on with Aaliyah every second of the day. And “in a mothers” thinking…grandparent rights popped into my head. Every second Aaliyah ISN’T with her father and ISN’T being abused…is a second of healing…a second of what a normal life is supposed to be like. Does anyone know how these rights work and if the grandpa would be willing to act on them?

Chip,
Excuse me but if you have posted one post that gives the mother any presumption of innocence I have missed it. You say you are neutral but your posts do not support that position. It is my opinion that your carefully worded comments are an attempt to make you come off neutral but I don’t read it that way. Just my opinion and you are not in charge of my personal opinions.

This case caused an explosion on Bnn. The whole time people were professing all they were doing was asking questions. In reality we were being badgered and accused of all sort of things, all being done under the cover of questioning. Your words do not hide your loyalties. I don’t know why you feel the way you do. Those are your opinions and you have every right to have them. Do not presume to know what I can or “cannot answer”, you do not hold the key to my mind.

Interestingly you bring up the Smith case. I live VERY close to Union, SC and am quite familiar with that case. You have NO way of knowing it but the day Michael and Alex were “kidnapped” I went on record with all family and friends, unwavering in the fact that those children were NOT taken and Susan knew exactly where they were!

You are wrong, if the Worm consented to be tested by an independant examiner, using a method which can not be manipulated, and he passed, I would HAPPILY accept it. My only goal is to make sure this child is protected from abuse. I have watched and read all available documentation and I have concluded this child is NOT being coached or influenced by her mother.

The knowledge and experience I bring to the table in these crimes convince me, daddy is guilty and this baby is being victimized and devasted by the person who should be protecting her.

It seems to me almost every time I make comments concerning this case, you are right there disputing my observations. If you are looking for an arguement, keep looking. I do not take these allegations lightly. This is as serious and heart breaking as it gets. Aaliyah Bedwell is in danger and I am going on record right now. I believe with every fiber of my body, this little girl is being victimized. It is my opinion and I have a right to it. You will not change my mind, however should legitimate testing prove me wrong I will publicly admit my error. If and until that happens I have no desire to discuss this with you again. Thank you.

n ramirez,

Every state is internally governed on grandparents rights and I am not familiar California’s laws.

Mr. Bedwell is Connie’s father and he talks lovingly about Aaliyah. I can’t speak for him.
The main problem I see regarding any rights he may have is, he does not live in California, but resides in Alaska.

n ramirez, you are wonderful, your concern for Aaliyah matches many of ours, we just keep trying to come up with an alternative living arrangement that would keep Aaliyah safe.

All prayers are answered, not always in our time frame and at times not even to our liking. I guess we just have to keep praying and doing whatever our hearts direct us to do.

Hi AnneA, it’s good to be here.

AnneA, the same people who claim there is no evidence to the abuse cannot show us evidence that Connie is a lying, crazy biatch. People cannot believe that the whole judicial system is corrupt. If this lady Maureen doing what she has does not give some credibility to Connie, then nothing will. This lady has come out and out right lied to three lawyers as to what happened that day. And there are only three people that know. Connie, Maureen and the supervisor. The supervisor left the BUILDING because she knew what was going to happen and Maureen didn’t want any witnesses. I choose to believe Connie. Why would Connie who is going to visit her daughter just start yelling and screaming at Maureen? Why? There is not reason. I wish that the supervisor would do what is correct and come out and tell what happened. Today is 2.5 weeks that Connie has not seen Aaliyah, Thursday will be 3. This is just more ways for his lawyer and he to get away with lying and manipulation. I also found out that all of these judges have changed because of Amara. She changes courts and venues when things start to go Connie’s way. The only judge she kept for the last year was Perry, and that’s because he did whatever she told him to. There is a post on the Aaliyah petition by a Kendra Cummings (by the way, all Cummings and Smith posters are of the family or friends or maybe even Dustin himself) posted she had a video of Connie lashing out and acting crazy, threatening Dustin about making sure he would never see Aaliyah again. Kendra, if you are reading this, show us this video, please. All of you “father” supporters say you have this evidence, but it is never shown. If you all want us to believe you, back it up. I also just found out that when Dustin slammed the car trunk on her head, she went back to him three weeks later to try and make things work so that they could be a family. Now, I say that is stupid, but I have not been in her shoes. I have been abused by an ex husband, but not to the point of Connie has. But this to me states that she did love Dustin and did everything she could to keep the family together. If only Dustin would have received help with his anger, maybe this could have happened. I believe Connie and Aaliyah are being served a great injustice. And the more I learn, the more I will say that I will NOT stop until someone can help them. I feel that Connie should break the restraining order and just go to the media. She isn’t seeing Aaliyah, what can it harm? She has done everything they have asked her. Her friends and family are still screaming while she can’t. They are punishing HER for that, it’s wrong. Connie and family, if you read this, do whatever is necessary. A year has been long enough. You all are amazing and deserve so much better!

Who taught Connie to try to make an abusive relationship work? Not the advice I would give my daughter. One can get killed that way.

They both have stockholm’s syndrome? I would think there is a factor of self esteem in a young beautiful girl who doesn’t think she deserves better. We need to teach our daughters that they have the world by the tail, and the first abuse is the last abuse. I didn’t realize that the Dr.’s offer was dependent upon testing Dustin’s side as well. That is so tragic that Connie cannot benefit from his expertise separately from Dustin. I was really hoping he would help where he could. Thanks for the info, Karen.

Wow…I think I have stockholm’s syndrome. It’s amazing what you start to read…but by the time your finished reading…you realize that particular article is describing every aspect of your very life…

I’m an adult. And with that–I cry for little Aaliyah. Yeah I’m controlled and abused on occasion but this little girl has images of her daddy’s penis in her head yet everyone stands around and pretends like its not happening…or makes up bullshit excuses.

Sorry…too much wine…

Anna said: Excuse me but if you have posted one post that gives the mother any presumption of innocence I have missed it. You say you are neutral but your posts do not support that position. It is my opinion that your carefully worded comments are an attempt to make you come off neutral but I don’t read it that way. Just my opinion and you are not in charge of my personal opinions.

No Anna, not looking for any type of argument.
I haven’t accused Connie of anything, not even lying or false claims. Presumption of innocence is in regard to the father.
My posts are not neutral? Did I say the father was innocent? No I did not? Did I say Aaliyah is not being abused? No I did not.
You believe he is guilty and that is your right but believing he is guilty without hearing the entire story…is presumptuous.

“You will not change my mind, however should legitimate testing prove me wrong I will publicly admit my error.”

Anna, I would not expect you to admit an error. Due to the nature of this case and not all the facts laid out out on the table, people make judgments based on feelings, not facts. Only the family/families knows the facts which I don’t think they will share on the internet.

“In reality we were being badgered and accused of all sort of things, all being done under the cover of questioning. Your words do not hide your loyalties”

Simple paranoia. My words do not hide my loyalties? let me take a wild guess, becauase I’m not following the mantra of “he’s guilty” I’m not loyal? Wow……I applaud you. Perhaps I’ve misinterpreted your comment. Next I’ll be accused of support the father…..I don’t think we’re far from that.

Karen

I sent Jan an email to forward onto you. Please let me know if you have received it.

Marmite, I have not received your email as of yet.

Chip, I know what AnneA is feeling right now and she feels she is being singled out. I am not saying you have attacked or name called, I just stated it won’t happen again. I’m sure you were here when it all got way out of hand and can understand why we are leary. I know AnneA can hold yer own, I just feel you are baiting her. And so does she. I came to her defense, because she is my friend.

I am confused by all those that think this is a conspiracy or a hoax. Black or white, one or the other. What I have seen are many angry attacks for opinions, without much factual hard evidence. From both sides. It does seem to be a rather polarizing case. Let me explain what I have read on the few (10 or less) sites that I have located about this case.

There are some who seem to believe that this is a personal vendetta or attack on the father by an angry ex who lost custody. That the entire Bedwell family and their friends are involved in a smear campaign either for money (aka donations) or revenge because of custody and child support issues. I realize there is no one here who supports this opinion- I am just stating what I have seen on the 10 or so sites I was able to find about this case.

Many seem to believe the mother has been a victim of the judges, an attorney(the father’s), the police, CPS, the visitation center, and the doctors who examined the child and either found no proof that the mother was right, or did and then covered it up for the father. Basically an entire county of corruption by all of the above.

I have also found much conflicting information on how many attorneys Connie has had, as well as how many judges have heard this case. Some sites are reporting as many as 7-8 judges- odd in a county where there are only 2 family law judges. Does anyone here know the truth about this? Is there a court hearing this week (possibly today?)

I have seen some who remain neutral and undecided. Some of whom are leaning towards the abuse being true, but also believe in innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

All sides are making their determinations based on the approx. 1/3 of the ‘daddy’s worm’ video( where are the remaining minutes of this 27 minute video? Why is only 1/3 of it on You Tube instead of all 3 parts?), and the parental exchange video (remember though there are times Connie documented exchanges that were ‘normal’), as well as the statements(both sworn and otherwise communicated) of the Bedwell family and friends. Am I correct about this being the case?

No statements have been made by the father, although I do agree that those put forth by the Bedwell’s seem to be damning. I am clear about the thoughts of the Bedwell family and their friends, as they have posted their views in many places.

Just how rich and powerful is the Thompson family? I have been unable to locate much information about this family’s actual level of wealth- are we talking upper middle class, millionaires, or multi-millionaires?

What about the father’s family and friends? Are all of them totally oblivious to this abuse or are they all in collusion and are any of them the ones who may be abusing this child? With all of the observations made by the mother and her family and friends- I would assume they are also witnessing something unusual in this baby girl’s behavior- are the entirety father’s family and friends so concerned for this man that they have no care at all for this little child? Or are they all just turning a blind eye to the abuse of a child? Anyone can call CPS or national child abuse hotlines to report child abuse anonymously. Why have none of them called in complaints? Is it assumed that none of them care about this child at all? Or is it that there is no one there who has seen any symptoms that are worrisome?

Where have all the mandated reporters come down on this case? The pediatrician at least must have been consulted with in the last year during a normal checkup. Was there no physical proof ever found? Or was proof never seen by the courts or reported to the mother? Have all the doctors (assuming there have been many) been either unable to find anything, or are they all incompetent or just hiding things? Does anyone know?

It is obviously something that is happening, and this child is at the center of it. It does not have to be a huge conspiracy of corruption. It does not have to be a scam or a hoax. This could be something else entirely, we do not know yet. Have I missed something?

I will continue to write emails and letters asking for a complete investigation / re-investigation of this case for the sake of this child. Because at the heart of all this is a child who I am worried about. Someone is abusing her- I am just not sure if it is both parents or only one.

Thank you for reading my long post, and for any clarification you may be able to provide. I am off to post this on other forum’s. If I find anything new I will return to post it here.

Pray for all children, and especially this one.

Need More,

I do know there have been 8 judges and Connie has had three lawyers. She had one lawyer for a year and she loved him, but he retired. I remember asking the family why that lawyer didn’t refer her to someone else, but I don’t remember them giving me an answer. Yes, from what I remember reading on her timeline, she states that a couple of times Aaliyah came back and had no nightmares and had started to not freak out when she had to have her clothes or diaper changed. She attributed that to her being able, at the time, to voice to the authoirties about the abuse allegations and believed he had stopped doing anything during that week. I do not know the amount of wealth the family has or does not have, but I can tell you that they have been in the communitity since birth. Mr. Thompson (Dustin’s father) has coached baseball for Placer County High School in Auburn and for 20 years or more has coached through summer leagues and High School, lawyer’s kids, judge’s kids and business professionl’s kids…etc…I don’t know anything about Dustin’s mom. I haven’t a clue as to what his family and friends see or hear regarding Aaliyah. All that they do, that I see, is yell and scream that Connie and her family are crazy, but never give any of the evidence that they say will prove Dustin to be not abusing his child. And from what I see, it seems to be the same two or three people writing on these blogs. Their writing styles do not change, nor does the information. I don’t know if Dustin has any friends. I have been told that Dustin was abused as a child, I don’t know if sexually, but definitely physically. I am only saying what I have been told, I can’t say that it is true. But that also Dustin’s mother was abused by her husband. To me, if that is true, it would explain the abuse of Dustin’s daughter. Abuse cycles. Connie and her family have not made public the doctor’s notes and all that, I can only assume because they are waiting for a trial. But with how things have gone for the last two years, I would definitely put that forward. But, I am not in her situation, and maybe her lawyer has told her he is against it? I just don’t know. And because Dustin and his family are not speaking, I don’t know what “their” doctor’s have said. I’m hoping Aaliyah is being seen for her check-ups, they are so important at that age. I forgot to say that her court date is June 1st, and her lawyer is going to try to get the restraining order dropped and visitations started again. I do know that they have a place in mind, but all lawyers (Amara and Bowman) have to agree to it. But they will not contact Connies lawyer back. They are avoiding him.

Thank you so much for your post and any information is welcomed. I don’t know if I helped any, but I tried. Welcome to BNN!

I don’t know if you read the saveaaliyah site, but I decided to copy and paste this from there. It’s in regards to when she went to Alaska and why she came back:

The so called father in this situation has been abusive to the mother for years. He has done a number of things such as slam her head in the trunk of his mercedes there was a 911 call made, slammed her into a laundry room door breaking it off its hinges while she was pregnant, etc… 2 weeks before her due date with Aaliyah he had threatened to kill her. When Aaliyah was 8 days old he called her a little ***** brat because she was crying in her crib. When she was 4 weeks old he threw 3 soiled diapers at the mother while breastfeeding the baby and one hit Aaliyah in the face, he tried to trap her in the room and got in her face calling her names. He proceeded to pull out a baseball bat out on her and stole the carseat so she was unable to leave. She jumped over the bed and managed to escape the room. Due to this incident the mother took the baby and fled to Alaska. She was told by the court Aaliyah would be protected by the system through his visitation supervised due to his alcohol and physical abuse towards the mother and child, so she moved back to CA 9 months later. The abuse began during the supervised visitation with his parents as the supervisors. Aaliyah’s behavior completely changed toward her father May of 2007. Her first major set of bruises were July of 2007 with a bruise under her arm, one across her thigh and one across her hip. CPS did nothing. He ran to court to get custody knowing that she could no longer afford an attorney. A new judge to the case granted him 50 50 custody because his attorney convinced the judge he had already had 50 50 custody. The abuse only got worse… Aaliyah would come home with rashes around her mouth, having nightmares, regressed in her potty training and wanted to be breast fed again. Aaliyah began hitting, choking and slapping her toys, stating they were all dead, crying scared, and bad. (there have been a total of 11 CPS reports throughout this situation). Aaliyah came home from his house in Jan 2008 with a bruise across her lower back and a bruise on her forehead stating daddy kicked her in the back and she bonked her head on the table. CPS did nothing. That same time fram she began speaking of daddy hurting her pee pee. A restraining order was filed. During the restraining order she began to use the bathroom again until his supervised visitation started again. The police began a so called invetigation. The court granted him 50 50 custody while the investigation was going on. He brainwashed aaliyah that he was a parrot. The grandpa began to make Aaliyah call him Papi. Aaliyah spoke of him as two different people with two different personalities. Grandpa was mean and hits her and Papi was nice to her. She began telling us of daddy’s worm that “it has hair, like the hair on my head” and “it has one eye.” There were numerous times of her complaining of the worm hurting her tongue. She would lick her mother and Aunt. She told them to kiss her baby with their tongues. She would ask her mother if she saw her naked “Where did your pee pee go? Assuming that there was supposed to be more to it. Aaliyah would state to put pillows over your lap to be safe from daddy. She has played “Be safe” games and continues to do so even to this day. The video of “daddy’s worm” was captured June 9 2008. (this part of the situation you can read above in red) This coparenting program called STEP got involved with the court case. At their first hearing they attended they took Aaliyah from her mother and blindly placed her in the home of the child molester. They told him they were going to put a therapist in the home to check up on him…like he is really going to molest her during this period knowing they are watching.

He has had custody of her for 10 months. She is under his full control and threats. He is in control of the evaluations done and knows when to and when not to molest her to fool the people he needs to keep her in his full custody to continue victimizing her.

Also, you should read the article of “Why the Abused Love their Abuser”, I posted the link above a bit. If you can’t find it, I’ll repost it for you.

I really don’t understand the whole thing about her family not being able to see Aaliyah. I have asked, but have not received that information as of yet. I will let you know if I ever get an answer. But Aaliyah’s site explains some things and that article will explain why Connie tried to make their relationship work.

This still does not explain why she would return to California. Did the courts require her to return?

I understand the psychology of abuse. I do not understand bringing her child back to this abuse. Herself yes, but her child, especially after living that far away and feeling safe- no, I just don’t buy it being a result of her abusive relationship with this man. She had obviously chosen to run from it for the safety of her child. Something had to have forced her to return. I am just not sure what it was, her looking for child support, or him searching for custody (which became his right if she wanted child support). It is a fine hair to split, but it does help to understand whose actions caused the return to California. Was there an attempt at reconciliation with an abusive ex I wonder? Which parent created the situation that caused the return to California?

What I mean is- did Dustin want to see his child only because Connie had demanded child support?

Or did Dustin want to see his child and went after Connie because he was willing to admit paternity?

Chip, also, I have picked Connie’s side because I have spoken to her in the past and her family and I converse through emails. I just can’t see all of these people being in on a scam and making up lies to destroy one person. I just can’t see it. They are genuinely in fear for both Connie and Aaliyah.

I’m sure Anna is a very nice woman, no one is assaulting her character, she is to be commended. No, no one is baiting her. I just see a lot of condemnation is all. People need to think for a moment if they were in a position such as this, would they want people to throw them to the wolves without a all the evidence?
I never said, at least on my part she (Connie) is lying or scamming anyone. I would not sink so low as to state something such as that but my stance is being misinterpreted, greatly.

No new news on the questions being asked by Need More, but I do have some good news. I was just informed that Connie finally has an appointment with the DA that handles sexual assault cases on June 2nd. The only bad thing about that is it is the day after her court appearance where Dustin is trying to have her put in jail.

Simon wants to point out this article http://www.bloggernews.net/121026

This is going to be happening sooner rather than later.

Thanks everyone.

Jan Barrett

You know annea, I believe in child support, and visitation. I am just trying to understand the beginning of this whole case.

My point was that getting child support implies that somehow the paternity was determined. That would imply that either Dustin decided he wanted to see his daughter and admitted paternity, or Connie had to go to court to prove it and thus get child support.

I am trying to understand the dynamics here. I in no way said children do not deserve child support, I in no way said Connie was wrong for getting it. ALL custodial parents should get child support for the care of a child.

All I am doing is asking questions because I am trying to understand this case, and all those involved, and how it got to this point.

Thank you for your response.

You are welcome, did it help?

I truly appreciate your help, you have found answers that I could not!

At the core of this case is still just a small child surrounded by too many questions and not enough action. This is what is important, this child!

no problem Karen, I can tell that you are emotionally involved in this case and are passionate about finding the best way to help this child be safe, loved and happy.

I too am very troubled that her supervised visitation was suspended by the provider. The reason given sounds completely fabricated. There is no way anyone could tell the location from that one picture! Unless I missed something, there was no mention of the provider’s name until after the visitation location suspended/canceled her ability to use their service. I hope there are other places that can provide this same service in the area, or at least not far away(maybe in Sacramento?).

It does tend to make the blood pressure rise and the frustration burst out when things like this happen to anyone! I tend to channel anger and frustration into something like scrubbing floors or washing the entire refrigerator inside and out. I have even gone nuts on window washing!

Thank you all again for allowing my questions, and providing answers.

If you are referring to the orginal myspace page of Connie’s, there apparently were some cached pages out there. More than Dustin have found them and could be using them to mess with Connie.

The one I heard of had many many pictures, including of Dustin. I don’t remember where I found it. There are so many new sites springing up about this case. Sorry I probably should not have stated it as fact without a link to back it up if asked

Jan

Not to worry I sent it through another route.

Thanks anyway, I hope you found it enlightening.

Karen please show me a sign you received it

Need More, that’s why I’m saying it’s not from her myspace. There were only pictures of Dustin on that one cached page. That wouldn’t stop Maureen from having visitation at her place.

I wanted to thank you for your help in finding information Karen before all comments are turned off on this subject!

Your help has given me so much more to contemplate. I will keep on writing the emails to those I think can help get this case investigated properly without bias for either side. This child needs help from both sides of the opinion fence. She is what matters and I too will not rest until she is somewhere safe from any abuse! She is too little to protect herself. I pray every day/night for her safety!

Blessings and much joy to all!!

Is the forum now closed to non-members? I was checking to see if there is any new info on this case, and for opinions on the Caylee hearing today, and it does not seem to be working!

Are you only allowed to read articles on the Blog now, and not comments in the forum??

Bummer!

so you were able to still read. I can’t seem to get in there anymore to read. I thought it was just because I was not a member. double bummer. I enjoyed the opinions on the many cases. It was where I caught up on the details and the public opinions.

What a shame. While I do not register for forums, I do enjoy reading the many opinions about cases I follow. I don’t even want to post, the article comments were a place to pick up all the little details about many cases that I do not have time to ‘find’ myself.

Thanks Karen, as always I appreciate your help and info.

If I find anything new, I will post it here in the blog if comments are still open.