BNN is dedicated to fighting injustice, there is too much of it around. Our special Radio Show this afternoon highlighted three cases. Two are old and cold, but one is very much alive.
Jan Barrett was viciously raped, beaten, and kept confined for days. With broken ribs, black eyes, busted lips and heavy bruising, the police basically told her to go home and take two aspirin. Her attacker was a pillar of the community, and there was no way the police were going to investigate!
Ronald Scharff was a tavern owner, he and his barmaid Patricia Freeman were found executed gang style. The evidence pointed to one man Larry Neuman, a Chicago hood. Nothing happened. Once again the cops let the case fall through the cracks. Even though new evidence surfaced in late 2007, there has been no movement. Son Paul Scharff is at his wits end. How can he bring some closure to his fathers brutal murder?
Both cases happened in small towns, both cases concerned families with pull. Both cases happened a long time ago. Both cases show a complete opposite to what law Enforcement is duty bound to do.
It is the third case we discussed today that really upsets both Jan and I. A three year old girl being sexually abused, and no one will help. Aaliyah Bedwell is living a life in hell, and neither the cops nor court system will lift a finger. Jan and I heard about this story just over a week ago, and it has consumed our waking hours. Some people think the entire story is an Internet hoax, yet another scam.
Well I will say this, if it is a scam, it is the most elaborate one I have ever seen. The evidence is overwhelming, this little girl needs help. If it is a hoax well Jan and I sure got suckered. Connie Bedwell wanted to be on the radio show, but because of the strangest gag order I have ever heard of, we decided to dissuade her. She can not do anything useful to move this case forward if she is in jail.
In her place we had a number or her family and friends, her sisters Cara and Christen, her father Tim, her boyfriend Darrel Payne, and also her close friend Sarah Vergara.
It was an interesting show, Jan and I thought we were up to speed on everything, not so. There seems to be some stalking going on. It could be Law Enforcement, or it could be something to do with the father.
Connie and Cara have been followed a few times by the same vehicle. It could be nothing, it could be important. They did manage to catch a rather bad quality picture of the tag, who is it?
The question is, are these good guys or bad guys?
There is much more to this story, and Jan and I will be making a number of calls on Monday. There are some folks in Placer County that likely are going to be crossing Jan and Simon Barret off their Christmas card list.
We have the names, we have the numbers, and we are on the hunt.
Small town injustice is going to stop.
After the show had ended Paul Scharff called us, he knew nothing of the Aaliyah Bedwell story prior to going on air, in fact I had thought that Paul had hung up after the discussion about his father Ronald Scharff, no, he had hung in for the entire show. He is horrified that what is happening today in Placer county is what was happening 28 years ago in McHenry County. In fact Paul has also offered his help.
Much bickering has occurred over our coverage of this case, to me, having Paul on board is vindication, we are not crazy, the entire Bedwell family are not crazy, their friends are not crazy. This is a very real case, and a very real situation. Jan and I must tread carefully, our next moves are likely going to cause some real waves, and our only wish is to protect the safety of Aaliyah.
To say that we are appalled by the efforts put in by the authorities does not do it justice. Alas this is a family rated news site, so we must temper our language.
The entire show was recorded and you can listen to it here.
On Monday our quest continues. I am pretty certain that this article will be read by the folks in the opposite corner. So I will give you some advice, don’t duck us, don’t act like idiots. One way or another the truth will come out. Right now BNN is the only news source running with this story, but that is going to change PDQ. As I like to say ‘We have friends in low places’.
If it is a hoax, I’ll take the flak, if it is not a hoax, we saved a little girl. I’ll be honest, I would love this to be a hoax, I am a big guy, I can take the ridicule. But someone needs to step in and do something. As best I can tell not even the damn court appointed lawyer for Aaliyah has even looked at the evidence! Some justice system we have.
More on this story on Monday, and if you have any information about this case please send it to us.
Simon and Jan Barrett
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Follow-up comment rss or Leave a TrackbackJan, I’m sooo sorry what you had to endure. I can’t imagine what you went thru. I am speechless, which almost never happens. You seemingly have risen above the pain which I so admire. I know it must have been so hard, and probably still is. May God bless you Jan…..and Simon!
Oh, and thank you for staying on the Aaliyah story. I do not believe this to be a hoax. From the very beginning from AnneA and karencc, I just knew there was something to this. Thank you Jan and Simon for investigating this.
Jan,
Thank you for the courage to tell your story. I had a similar event, which predates yours, but only lasting in hours not days…Cannot fathom that I would have survived and thrived as you have from such a prolonged trauma. From my vantage point, you are heroic, and gracious, for having shared your history…Consideration has also led me to believe that I have been a fool for living in silence for so many years, while you stand as a champion for speaking the truth. Your openness is a special voice…Humble gratitude from a listener.
In so far as the story of Aaliyah, it is troublesome. I have only been researching it for a brief period of time, (underscore the word brief), so my assessment is not ripe for worthy consideration, even if only to myself. Doubts lie as much with the facts, as with the VXF.(Admittedly, upon hearing of VXF touting teddy bears for those with cancer, it immediately conjured the bears in the name of Caylee now being provided by the CMA Foundation. Hence, my visceral response may have overtaken the soundness of an impartial mind.) Undoubtedly you have more information, and for this reason I will try to remain without grounded opinion. It is hoped, however, the site that is seeking donations on behalf of this little girl will block out her face…There is no reason that her identity should be disclosed, jmo. (FWIW, believe I am considered a ‘driveby’ listener, but I am listening…so there must be many others who remain quiet, yet are most appreciative.)
Jan/Simon, good show today. Very enlightening and I hope and pray that the proper authorities wake up and take action. I appreciate all your hard work and efforts to help our children. Jan, I know how hard it was to share your experiences but, in doing so, you may have given courage to another victim. Love you guys and I’m looking forward to tomorrow’s show! Thanks again!
I am so sorry to hear of all this. I am following closely Aaliyah’s story. I experienced a terrible instance myself as a child. My hat is off to all of you who are volunteering your time to finding out what is going on with this child. If it is a hoax, then what have you lost? A bit of TV time? I would be proud to volunteer.
Personally, I could give a d*mn if I were being stalked and I was protecting a child, but I am a hard-a*s like that. Anything I can do, just let me know. You have my e-mail.
Sherry
Where is the REAL EVIDENCE YOU SPEAK ABOUT SIMON? What CLEAR evidence? I’ve seen a video that may be of an abused child or it also could be a coached child too. The argument supports both ways.
Where is the proof of cover up or corruptness? Links provided speaks of previous unrelated cases not this one. That does not mean everyone in Placer County is corrupt because of a couple OLD news stories. A new judge on this case even seems to support the LEGAL gag order placed on the mother & continues to support reasons for her not to have any sort of custody.
There’s many more people on the fence not wanting to speak up in fear of being blasted just because we’d like the mother to answer a few simple questions that continue to remain unanswered. Everytime someone tries to ask, they get shut down by angry family members accusing us fence sitters of siding with the father which is not the case at all. I will keep my ears open for this child but I wouldn’t give the mother a dime. Giving her money in the remote possibility of it being a hoax is completely an idiotic thing to do.
There are a lot of silent voices that wonder quietly about what the mother is NOT telling us, what she is hiding, what she refuses to say and the many questions ask to her have been avoided answering in full. ON the saveaaliyah site, it references some child community site for PROOF & EVIDENCE… that is a single person that started that website, not some major corporation. Why have all Connie’s lawyers walked away from her?
Just too many unanswered questions leaves many of us very suspicious of the motives and actions on the mothers part. I don’t need family slamming me accusing yet another poster being from the fathers camp because I do not know the guy and I am not saying for one minute this child isn’t abused. The mother needs to answer a lot more questions before anyone professionally will ever take her seriously at all.
Because as I see it, her whole family makes her look like a mental crazed fool. I don’t think they’re helping her at all when they come out swinging at anyone who has questions. It would be the very same questions national media would want answered before looking into this case. Why is BNN the only FREE BLOGGER NEWS place that is writing about this and not one single newspaper, tv station or national media rep ignoring all the multiple requests for help. It’s safe to say angry mob mentality helps keep them far from doing anything about this at all.
By clear evidence I mean I would like to see court documents, letters from doctors supporting and stating clear evidence of sexual abuse. Where’s the therapist support of this claim - the one that isn’t allowed to testify??? If she has credible claims to support abuse and was not allowed to testify, she should be screaming from the roof tops!
I do not see one professional that has come to the support of this mothers claims. Surely Connie had time to take Aaliyah to the doctors for evaluation. Connie should have copies of those doctors records and notes about her child. Where is the REAL evidence, not from emotional family members - I’m talking professional credible evidence??
It’s a wonder why no news media is tackling this so called horrific story of child abuse and corruption. Not much of a head scratcher here.
The mother is not coming across as credible at all to any of us fence sitters and by appearing that way - is causing further injustice to her daughter if the child is abused!
If your family says you’d even go to jail to save your child Connie - then lay out every spec of evidence on your website! I sure the hell would if it were my kid.
Evidence ISN’T interview link from another website taking on your cause. Evidence isn’t letters from family members & their personal untrained observations.
Evidence is what the courts will look at to determine abuse! Doctors letters & evaluation of Aaliay, therapist evaluation and confirmation of abuse, etc.
Its strange to see how many strangers are so willing to take this story as absolute fact without anything beyond the video.
That in itself is not complete proof of abuse. Because it leaves the door opened to a child that may have been coached, then we need professionals with documented evidence to step forward for this child to show beyond a shadow of a doubt that this mother’s story is truthful and not just an angry revenge filled woman she seems to come across to us who are silent fence sitters. Connie, I guarantee you that you will not get media interested in this case until you show clear factual professional evidence. For now, you look like a raging ex bent on revenge because you lost custody. And this opinion is from a stranger, not associated with the fathers camp at all.
And for everyone else, I still do not know if this child isn’t or is being abused. I am a fence sitter demanding answers!
Excellent posts and questions ‘toomanyquestions’. I think you spoke for how many of us fence sitters feel. I hope you get a straight answer as opposed to the dodging of questions and personal attacks coming from the Bedwell camp.
Toomany, what does it matter to you? Simon and Jan are not going to stop until the truth is found. That’s it. There are a lot of questions unanswered, but to me, those questions don’t mean anything. The baby needs to be taken out of the home where the allegations are being spoken of. Then an investigation will tell the truth. I thought that was the law….I may be wrong? But these are serious accusations. I don’t see why someone isn’t listening to them. It seems that the baby’s voice stating she doesn’t want to go to Daddy’s isn’t strong enough. We are her voice now. And I personally will not stop until the baby is out of that house. If I am wrong, I will apologize and whatever I need to do. But I don’t feel wrong. What feels wrong is that the other side of the family is trying to hide something. Why not just let the baby be put into a different setting until they can be cleared of the allegations they say they aren’t quilty of. I guess that’s just my one question.
Toomanyquestions,
I for one am glad that Jan and Simon have chosen to follow up on this story. WHAT IF???? I find it appalling that ANYONE has a problem with an alleged child abuse story being followed up on.
I do not know whether the accusation is valid or not, and I’m not going to pick a side. What I will do however, is encourage Jan and Simon to continue finding the facts behind this case and report it as they see it. When their coverage is complete…I WILL then make a decision about the “guilt” or “innocense” of this story.
toomanyquestions said,in May 10th, 2009 at 2:31 pm
Its strange to see how many strangers are so willing to take this story as absolute fact without anything beyond the video.
toomanyquestions, I find it harder to believe that someone is willing to dismiss this as “not a fact”.
I hate to say it, but it sounds as though you have fallen off the fence already.
Hopefully Simon sees this, thank you SJK
SJK,
Nice to see that people are willing to help find the answers, rather than ridicule Jan and Simon for NOT having all the answers…GOOD JOB! my hats off to you! (I don’t really wear a hat but you know what I mean!) lol.
investigation for the win!
SIMON..JAN…THANKYOU…everyone who has brought this to the world attention..im in ireland..keep going with this…if i can help just ask..TOOMANY QUESTIONS…just act ask your QUESTIONS LATER….i havent given any money,just my help in anyway for this child…
The “Auntie” on MySpace. This is very transparent, and it seems an organized hoax would go about this differently…
http://www.myspace.com/clbedwell
where did my previous post go??
SJK We thank you for the information you posted and we do have it saved but we had to take the post off of here for legal reasons and moral reasons. We would rather play fair in this and not post phone numbers anyway. We do thank you again though for your efforts.
Thank you all for your support in this case, it feels good knowing some are behind us. We won’t give up trying to get to the bottom of this.
Jan Barrett
Jan, thanks for letting me know.
Sorry about that, I deleted it and then posted the comment letting you know. We do thank you for your help though.
No problem. This way Connie can’t be accused of giving you the information, since it could be pieced together from various sources.
SJK, ask Jan for her email and you can send anything like that directly to her. Thank you so much for helping us! It’s awesome!
karenccc…i just want to say if i can do anything to help please just ask…iv been here about a year now..im along way across the pond but i am behind all who want to help this angel…i feel helpless.. but you are not alone…
What does it matter? She’s asking for people to blinding donate money to her cause without supplying the full story and all the evidence.
It matters because I know for a fact the national media & lawyers will not help Connie until she clears up a lot of things out there.
I believe if strangers are asked to donate to help a cause, we deserve the full story.
If Connie wants help from people that matter like lawyers & other professionals, answering some questions really matters.
If you all here want fence sitters to take this as a complete truthful case of child abuse, then it matters.
Why is it okay to give us a piece of the story and not the entire full evidence? If she’s screaming for the entire world to help, then I’m all for helping if I can see factual documented evidence that gives credence to the video.
Believe me I am not the only one thinking these things but maybe I’m the few that is passionate enough to put it out there.
I’d love to have definitive proof of this, then I would be very willing to utilize my skills to do everything possible for this child. I believe many more would take up her cause than the 900 people that signed the petition.
I am not th only one thinking it is a hoax by an upset mother bent on revenge and coached her child to say this. I’ve seen it happen before and children absolutely 100% will say anything to please an adult they love.
If you all are satisfied with JUST SIMON & JAN taking this on and this story dying out in a short amount of time, then more power to you. I do not see how Jan and Simon has enough power or money to make the difference it takes. If this story is true, it needs massive national attention! That is not happening is it??
While the video seemingly shows a clearly abused chid, I can see the other side of the argument where it could be a child coached as well.
Deciding to side step important questions to matters of evidence tells me that there is no further evidence to offer. If you have more than the video, interview & some letters to family, I would do anything I could for this child.
Answers to more questions to clear up a lot of these concerns would MATTER FOR AALIYAH’S CAUSE!
ok …im just saying that if this child is coached this is also evidence that abuse is happening..either way Aaliyah is in urgent need of help…im not on any fence…just Aaliyah safety…
I will devote every hour of my free time to this case if some things will be cleared up. Nothing is more vile than a child molester, especially one that can get away with it. Prove to me this man is guilty and you have me in your corner.
Connie, I do not know how you think a lawyer will help you for free if there’s no evidence beyond a video to support your cause. It will not happen. You have the power to make all the difference for your daughter.
Your family does not seem to have the money to help. So asking strangers for help without supplying the credible evidence that matters in a court of law will leave you with no custody of your child. Until you’re willing to do that, you are left with a bunch of anonymous voices on the internet that do not have the power to make a difference.
Even Jan and Simon are simply internet bloggers that do not seem to have any deep connections to make the difference it would take in a court of law to see real justice for this child.
why isnt this getting media attention? i dont get this either…this is now broadcast on youtube around the world and no media coverage??..SOMEONE SAVE THIS LITTLE GIRL…
Minnie, thank you so much and if you give ask Jan for her email, she should be able to give you mine. I thank you so much. It was very lonely trying to do this before I came here. I thank everyone for their support.
Toomany, I will read your posts and then respond. Just don’t want you to think I’m ignoring you.
I need Jan’s email
how also is this still on youtube?…i dont understand? ..this little girl is in one way or another being abused and i feel sick..
Toomany, “I” haven’t asked anyone here to donate money, and neither is Connie. She merely asked to go to the website and view her story and do what they can. I still can’t see why people can’t seem to read the front page of that website. It asks for police, phsycologists, lawyers ANY person that can help her to contact her. All you have to do is contact Jan and she will give you Connie’s number. I cannot answer your questions. I personally don’t need them answered. I’m pretty sure Jan and Simon have some of the answers but being investigative reporters, they are taking their time in getting it right. I can’t speak for Connie nor Jan and Simon. I have stated before and now again, I don’t need the answers to that. Have you seen the witness reports on CPC? I know they are from her family and friends, but who else sees this child every day. I also know that since the baby has been in supervised visits, the workers there are by law to write what they see! And they have seen a lot. If you are willing to wait for the answers and this child is beyond help by that time, that will be on your conscience. Mine will be free!
Minnie, I don’t know. Probably because they can’t prove it isn’t real.
SJK, jannyo@gmail.com
what is Jan’s email?
thank you!
Re: toomanyquestions @ 6:09………………..
It is no secret that I disagree with the evidence for allegations presented to date as being valid, and in that regard we share common opinions.
However, I disagree with your assessment of Jan and Simon’s ability to “take on” this story and have a potential impact. They are dedicated, determined individuals who are aggressively pursuing the truth of the matter. I have every confidence in their being able to ferret out the truth, whatever that may be. As to their perceived lack of money or power, on your part, I would respectfully submit to you that they have one of the greatest powers of all….The power of awareness. They, without question, have the ability to bring awareness, as to the truth, to thousands and thousands of people around the world.
I may disagree with them on the story as it presently exists, but to assume a lack of dilligence on their part to find the truth would be a mistake.
this is about helping an innocent child…ask questions later…we are adults,if we are sucked into a scam…we are big enough to take it..but to sit back and do nothing!!! what does that make us???
Minnie, you are falling on deaf ears. I have been saying that for a week and a half. But I totally agree with you.
papa…thankyou…thats what id like to say about jan and simon but you post soo well..
karenccc..im gona get onto youtube cause it is wrong…real or not…jesus this little girl is gettin abused either way…
karen…im sittin here..its near 1 in morning and im soo mad that this is out…for real and america is sittin back!!what is wrong?
children are the greatest gift in life…and if you are lucky enough to have one…god has blessed you…
I know minnie, it just disgusting! Did you see mermaid’s post with the phone numbers and addresses to write to? You can help, even though you are not American! LET THEM KNOW it is now WORLD WIDE. Thank you so much Minnie!
By the way, if I knew what was wrong, I would fix it. But I’m having trouble getting people to even believe why I’m here. It’s just common sense to me. Someone yells help, if I can, I will! I guess it may be how people are raised differently. I just don’t know.
no karen…let me know where i can find them…
i will write or i will try and get the attetion of media here in ireland..we might be small but we have big mouths!!!
i have to hit the hay but i will try get here 2morrow…keep shouting..godbless.xxx..
My sister-in-law is from Limmereck (did I spell that right?) I will find the post and give you the day and time she wrote it. Good night minnie, and God Bless you too
She does not. She has pay pal buttons, but did you read the first page. I’m not going to aruge this. She asks for ANY type of help. I haven’t donated any money. I’ve only donated my time and support. I really don’t want to argue. You have read it your way, I have read it mine.
Another flag is that powerful, affluent families normally don’t marry high school grads. (Connie’s friend said she was a poor high school grad) Not saying it can’t happen, but no one I know. All this attention may at least push the system to determine the safety of the child because random angry, upset people calling would take a lot CPS time. I am assuming that Jan and Simon have some concrete evidence at this point that they are not sharing. I hope they can push a resolution of this case for the child’s sake.
Val, my husband is from a very rich and affluent family. I am just a poor high school grad. I’m not being mean, I am just saying it does happen.
I don’t know what “powerful” means, but my father-in-law pretty much owns everything in the town we live in.
Minnie, bless your heart for caring enough to atleast see that a child is being abused in some sort of way! Sexually?? We don’t know yet. Exploited?? We don’t know yet. But thank God for bloggers such as you who, give a dam* to get to the bottom of this. Willing to do what you can FOR THE SAKE OF A CHILD IS ADMIRABLE.
LLP-Well written! Your support of Jan and Simon for wanting to get to the bottom of this case is admirable. Let the facts come out. Praise you also, for being to stay open minded for the sake of this child who is being abused in some sense. What that extent is we do not know yet. Mother? Father? Yet to be seen.
toomanyquestions said,in May 10th, 2009 at 6:09 pm What does it matter? She’s asking for people to blinding donate money to her cause without supplying the full story and all the evidence.
It matters because I know for a fact the national media & lawyers will not help Connie until she clears up a lot of things out there.
I believe if strangers are asked to donate to help a cause, we deserve the full story.
TMQ, I disagree with you on your statements I’ve copied above. You, myself and everyone out there has a right to donate or not donate for the cause. Your own words (I’d love to have definitive proof of this, then I would be very willing to utilize my skills to do everything possible for this child.) Maybe THEN it will be too late for Aaliyah. WHAT IF???? If you truly have the resources to make a difference one way or another, why wouldn’t you use them? Either you want to help or you don’t, nobody is twisting our arms. People are donating money left and right to the well known Monster of all times Jail fund (casey anthony)…..IRRITATES THE HECK OUT OF ME….but what they choose to do with their money is THEIR right. You obviously have chosen not to donate to this (Aaliyah) cause…so don’t. But to condemn Simon and Jan for doing what they feel is right in their heart, seems heartless to me.
Toomany, I received an email today from Placer County Sheriffs department. That’s NOT what they told me.
tmq….and IF i donated $20 to this and it turns out to be a scam…….$20 will not break me. I’d gladly donate $20 and STILL hear that Aaliyah is fine….AND NOT THINK TWICE ABOUT THE $20. Somebody gets rich off of this???? Worse things come to mind for me…. (Caylee Anthony) comes to mind.
CHSAH, you are right about Caylee. Even though it’s two totally different cases, you are right.
OK I know I am going to catch flack for this but I have banned toomanyquestions, but not for giving out information but for the name calling he did. I said I wasn’t going to allow that. All this is because of a certain comment posted on Websleuths from one of BNN’s own. It is the same post he asked me to post in here and I asked him not to. I told him it would set off a bomb in here just like what was happening here now. So if you are reading this, I hope now you will see why I asked you not to post that. Posting it elsewhere brought the same reaction and frankly I don’t appreciate it.
CHSAH I am so sorry you were accused of being one of the Bedwell’s. This is the very thing that they ridiculed others of doing that was for this story so why is it ok for them to do it but not one that believes the story.
We have NEVER asked anyone to believe for sure until we can come up with proof which is something I am working on right now. I just want those that don’t believe to step back and let us do what we need to do without interference. Apparently they can’t seem to do so. I will be watching for those that come in to cause trouble.
We are ONLY in this to save a baby’s life. If it is a hoax then so be it. We will at least expose them for it, so what do we have to lose here.
If we have to prove the father is guilty before they take this baby away from him then we just might be too late. This child’s life is in jeopardy here and she needs to be removed and placed in foster care until this is settled. That way we would know she would be safe. Why are people only looking to prove this is a hoax and not real! I do NOT understand this.
Wow!
That just means someone has accused her of something, nothing has been proven yet.
Jan, as I said to minnie, when someone says we just want the baby safe, it seems to fall on deaf ears. I sometimes wish I didn’t bring this here. If I could have found a way to email only you and Simon, this wouldn’t be happening. Do you have your emails anywhere on the forum? I really am sorry that this is happening here. As I said before, I never wanted to break up a famil of friends. But that’s just what I seem to have done. If you don’t have emails up for you two, I would suggest that you should. Like I said, I looked, but didn’t see anything.
Thanks Jan! I’m fine. Been accused of worse! lol….I always know ur watching
I feel safe 
Karenccc, don’t feel bad for bringing it here. If Jan and Simon didn’t feel it was worth reporting/investigating, they wouldn’t be following thru as they have. All I have ever seen Jan and Simon do on this case is want to get to the bottom of it.
Pattianne, haven’t seen you on the blog forever!
CHSAH, I know. But this blog forum is now segregated. Even if I had something to say about Haleigh and Caylee, I can’t. That’s all I’m saying. From what everyone has said about Simon and Jan, I know they do what they feel is right. It’s just I feel I have broken a family.
toomanyquestions is not a male FYI Jan. She copied info from the WS post to bring it here. If LE is involved and there are contact names for people to call Placer county, Auburn & Roseville police, why won’t you allow that info on your site?
It is unfair and against freedom of speech for you to deny both sides to this story imo.
Karen it is ok, Simon and I believe in what we are doing. I don’t understand why people care what Simon and I are doing if they think this is a hoax. They seem hell bent on proving it is and leaving this child where she is without even checking into the situation where she is.
These are the people that claim they really care about the children missing, killed or being abused. Instead of fighting to get Aaliyah removed until it is all cleared up and placed in a foster home, they are fighting against it so this father can continue abusing her if this case happens to be real.
For every ounce of so called evidence they think they have found we have found two ounces of evidence that it could be real. We are not able to publish what we have yet. There are still questions but every case has two sides to the story. We was told by another person helping us in this that the father refuses to talk to anyone so we are going to try that too. Silence on his part is kind of dumb if he wants to prove Connie wrong. She is risking a lot by figthing this. They want to discredit her but how come it is wrong for her to discredit him. This is the same old double statndards s*it and we aren’t buying into it.
So Karen I am happy you brought this to us. As for my email, it is jannyo@gmail.com and although most people in here know it already, anyone has my permission to hand it out to anyone that comes in here asking for it.
We need to be a voice for Aaliyah just as well as we do for Caylee, and Haleigh and Adji and Sandra. Why should little Aaliyah be left out?
I am so upset right now that my blood pressure is up. Simon is trying to calm me down but to be honest I don’t know if he can now, thanks to those that insist on causing us havoc.
I am going to bed now, good night to all those that care truly.
seeker I don’t care…it is unfair for them to come in here calling people names and accusing bloggers of being someone else. Now no one asked you to come in here so you can leave as well if you don’t like it
Seeker101, did you not read Jan’s post? She said she banned him/her because of the name calling.
It may have been mentioned in previous post and if it has, I apologize. Has this case ever been to court? If it has, couldn’t the mother make an appeal to the Supreme Court? If the alegation’s made, are indeed legitimate, then I believe everyone with the ability and power, should do everything they can to save a child who is in an abusive situation. I don’t remember reading any type of information proving, that the alleged abuse of this child is a false accusation. I admire anyone who puts their whole hearts and souls into helping and saving any victim of abuse, especially an innocent child. Children are twice the victim than either parent ever will be!
This will be my last post on the BNN site. Not only do I comment here with some frequency because I share my wife’s (C~A) passion for these issues, but I am also a writer here under my real name. Jan I don’t know what has happened or why this case has caused you to act this way but I can not stand by and say nothing while this is happening.
Blogger news was a source of information provided for FREE by people that care about what they are talking about. Not all the news comes in the form of an article, but in many cases in the comments section as people who have been here for a very long time discuss the case and all evidence provided and any opinions or ideas based on such. But as soon as this case has been discussed here you have filtered, removed, and even banned anyone that didn’t say “yes ma’am” it happened just that way ok without ANY hard prove, or evidence to back it up. I’m no expert but with a good webcam and a talented 6 year old I bet I could make a convincing video like that as well. But a 2 year old talking that way???? NO way.
You say THE most important thing to do is remove the child from the home and then sort out the truth later. Really, that’s really what you think? What if it’s a hoax? What then, the damage is done is it not! To the father, to the child, and to all the people that used to respect you, that no longer share their thoughts here for fear of YOUR abuse.
Not one single piece of REAL evidence has been presented here regarding this case despite numerous attempts by people to get some. You have ridiculed,insulted, and even banned people for just ASKING QUESTIONS? There is a difference between believing in something, and having something to believe in. I noticed you didn’t ban the person here for calling another A PEDOPHILE just because there was some disbelief in their posts! Give me a break, yet you ban “toomanyquestions” who certainly said nothing close to THAT.
Sorry not wanting to stir anything up any more but how is it okay to ban one person who is asking questions who called people names which I cannot see but when people who come in here asking questions are accused of being the pedophile or the pedophiles family fair? I’m sorry but I have kept my mouth shut about this and now I am seriously hormonal and I cant just let it go this time. I really respect Simon and Jan but I am trying to understand this.
Even people who speculate in cases like Haleighs that Ron is innocent and so is Misty, I would never ask them to not post in a Haleigh blog. As I have a diff theory.
I do want to help this child and I know I am on the fence with it. I have contacted all that I can about this through email. I also know others have done the same. So what more can I do?
I wouldn’t want to risk the safety of a child so I don’t disagree with trying to dig up what is going on and seeing if she is truly being abused. But I do also want to tread carefully as I do not know Connie or her ex but I do not want to prosecute her ex based on words and a video that is a little sketchy to me but who knows.
My last post too. I am glad this case can be discussed, questions asked, theories discussed at WS.
I asked some questions, and got some really snide remarks which were signed The Bedwell family and their siggy was edited. - the one suggesting I put my child with a pedofile.
Mr Bedwell came back with a snide remark to an honest question I missed from him and completely did not understand, yet his reply was snarky and in Caps.
I will say this, it is not right to make blind assumptions regarding the validity of this case without facts. As was stated early, if any professional- pediatrician- therapist had hard evidence this child was abused and denied the right to testify on Aali’s behalf they WOULD be shouting from the rooftops. Why aren’t they?
I have read much about this case, I find it oddly bizzare that a parent would consider a 2 yr old licking or eating bubbles from a bath tub sexual in any way.
Whatever you all are doing, Bedwell family, it is apparently working for you so best of luck and keep doing it.
in either case the kid is in trouble. Either her dad is molesting her, or her mom is exploiting her on the internet. So let’s start with the null hypothesis: fraud. That means the deeper we dig, the more inconsistency we should see. We dont see that. In fact, it becomes more and more consistent, to the point where, were it a hoax, she would have had to track down every possible connection on the internet and made it consistent with her story, or forged consistent connections in obscure corners of the internet on the off-chance that someone would find them. We’re talking evil genius shit
Now lets examine the competing hypothesis: the mom is telling the truth, and her ex-bf and his dad are politically prominent in a small town. Would this explain everything we see? Yes. The “hoax” hypothesis requires way too many assumptions; it assumes she has spun an enormous and consistent web of lies involving hundreds of people, either collaborators or dupes.
It seems that asking questions about what other evidence exists is not the thing to do.
I’m not sure Jan has spoken with judges, cps or the police about what type of proof it takes to remove a child from the home. You need much more than just accusations and rampant internet posts. You need proof, viable proof with doctors backing up the proof.
Maybe this child is abused but if 11 CPS investigations that included various police have not found 1 shred to support this, then a child cannot be dragged out of the home. The inability for anyone to question anything beyond the video and just plug forward as if it’s gospel, it’s just not right to expect that level of obedience.
If it’s a hoax, the permanent damage done to this ‘alledged’ abusers life is as horrific as the accusation itself.
I’m another fence sitter awaiting the same documentation toomanyquestions and others have requested. Until I read that, I am unable to make any decision on how to help this child including getting her story out. We don’t know what the story really is.
If you’re a reporter Jan I thought you’d understand the need for journalistic integrity & credibility. Imagine the harm if this is an innocent man. I do not propose to know either way. It’s very fair & reasonable for many to want more info before plowing forth.
Although, I suppose it is possible that she believes what she’s saying, is incorrect, and the dad’s family is politically prominent. This explains her erratic behavior and the attempts to gag order her. In that case she is a very skilled speaker, able to appear perfectly sane.
It seems to me that as long as the site includes a Pay Pal button, they are going to get donations. The people who aren’t donating are “spreading the word” which will access more people to the Donation page, like good publicity, so of course they don’t need to ASK for donations. Many good hearted trusting people may part with more than they can afford because they believe it is real. The anger and emotion directed at bloggers who just want to rule out fraud is unfounded. It’s just a cautious viewpoint in a criminal world; especially after this year, seeing the Anthony family swear to everything in support of their daughter.
It’s not that I don’t believe that these things happen, it’s just that lots of other stuff happens too and I want reassurance that the unbiased documentation is there. I’m sure Jan and Simon will get all the pieces of the puzzle together soon.
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The anger and emotion directed at bloggers who just want to rule out fraud is unfounded.
I don’t see any anger. What is wrong with people asking questions? One of Simons early posts encouraged healthy debate without name calling.
There are so many places online which explain how things like this work. So many places which explain how custody battles work.
I don’t have any problems with asking for donations. However, every time I see them for things like a child who needs a kidney, or lost a parent, or was in an accident I see two things. Usually a bucket for donations as local gas stations and stores along with a flyer attached indicating donations can be made in such and such a name and such and such a bank. I think more people would be willing to donate, true or not, if they were assured the funds were going directly to an attorney to assist with this case.
Thinking deeply, pondering. The SaveAaliyah website says: “Please continue to spread saveaaliyah.com and help raise funds for the defense of Aaliyah. The money is being used to go towards an attorney to present this video to the court- the judge has never seen it!! Your prayers, help and support are greatly appreciated.”
As I understand #1 - the new Judge states that she WILL watch the video
#2 - if an attorney’s name is present and banking info made available towards the attorney, many more would donate to this fight to see justice for sweet aliyah.
Asking for funds to get a judge to view the video is a MUTE POINT. Judge is willing to do so. Where is the money now going? Why not a trust set up to monitor the funds and how they are spent? Hard working individuals are helping anonymously, they deserve to know what’s happening to their funds!
i would just like to say something about what beast said, that a 2 year old cannot speak like the child on the video…i have five kids, four from a first marriage, one from a second…my first four spoke as most kids do, not very articulate until around the age of three…my last however, she talked so very well, her doctor even asked me if i was teaching her phonics…at the age of 2…i suspect personally that she had four older children around, she just spoke like they did…i notice too with some friends that have only one child, they seem to speak more ‘adult’, more clearly and less ‘baby’ talk…
as to the asking for donations for an attorney, i think asking for help from a private investigator is the route i would have taken first, get some hard evidence that could be brought into court…the video alone might be proof enough for the family, but i don’t think a judge will see it that way, sorry to say that, but sexual abuse is not the most easy thing to ‘prove’ legally…
my heart breaks at this case, at this little girl, and how this blog seems to have come unglued, people are very opinionated and it is actually amazing me at the mud slinging i see from people who claim to be here for the little children…jan and simon are following things up, i will watch it unfold, i cannot do anything but pray, i don’t know the entire story here, and neither does anyone else, and i think discussing all the possiblities are good, but the tension over this is unreal…
If you are convinced it’s a hoax report it as internet fraud immediately.
If you are convinced there is a child that might be in danger, report it to the relevant authorities!!!
I have reported it to all to people I could think of including the FBI, if it was a scam I would have expected the saveaaliyah site to have been removed by now at the very least. The fact it hasn’t been removed should say a lot to the non believers.
Debate is good as it keeps the issue in the public eye but no point bitching at each other all the time, it’s not big and clever and it doesn’t help anyone.
So the courts always get things right eh?
Mum jailed for telling son she loves him
women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/families/article6256499.ece
As the wife of a successful City financier with three young boys, she seemed to have it all.
Yet after a bitter divorce and a protracted battle with Britain’s family courts system, the woman now finds herself bereft. She no longer lives in an imposing home counties farmhouse and for the past three years she has been denied any direct access to her children.
She was once even jailed after encountering her eldest son in the street and telling him she loved him. Now she faces the prospect of incarceration once more. This summer the woman will be hauled before the courts again for having posted a video of her case on the internet.
The woman, who cannot be named for legal reasons, has not been excluded from her children’s lives because she presents a physical danger to them. Her failing, in the eyes of the courts, was to have turned the boys against their father.
Barred from approaching them in any way, she has been repeatedly arrested for breaching the terms of the injunction against her.
Thinkingdeeply, on the radio show on Saturday, May 9th, the family stated that the money has not been touched at this point. What I believe they said is that it will not be touched until a phsycologist or a lawyer is attained. There was some heated discussions regarding a trust fund. I think because the father has full custody, he would be able to have access to the money if it were in a trust.
Everyone else, If you go back and read all the posts, Jan does not ban anyone for asking their questions. Simon and Jan has warned everyone to stop the name calling. That’s it, that’s all. When two people here were accused of being someone they were not, that person apologized and one of them accepted the apology. The fence sitters need to try to see our side and we need to try to see yours. I can speak for myself and only me. Jan has spoken for herself. And if you read her post in this forum, she explains herself quite well.
Everyone wants the truth, so can’t we just work together instead of fighting eachother?
It seems to me that some people are more worried about this mother making a buck than whether there is truth in these accusations. I personally feel that there is definately something going on with the lil girl , I dont know exactly what or who is doing it to her but , when a child of that age speaks of the types of things she did …well this stuff doesnt c0me out of the air. I doubt she was coached to this degree and children that age do not make this stuff up. So I feel strongly that Jan and Simon are following their gut feeling as well and are trying to see this to the end no matter how it turns out and the people in this blog need to respect their decision. If all are truly here for the children then they should understand and continue to debate and discuss with out tearing each other to pieces over it. Hope today is a better day!
Minnie, if you are here today, that post from mermaid is on:
http://www.bloggernews.net/120784
Jan Barrett posted on May 9th @ 6:36. All the numbers and emails are in there.
ok whats the deal where are my posts going?
Hi, Pattianne! I see your 6:50 am and 8:17 am posts. Were there others? If any are missing,
there is random moderation on this blog so it doesn’t happen often and they will appear soon.
Also, I agree with your 6:50 am post!
I havn’t seen a clear answer for this so I will ask again..
“The Worm” was taped 6/9/08 and now almost a year later she is having it posted online? And a sudden rush to get it to any and all websites?
The saveaaliyah web site was created a month ago about. And now the flooding about all of this on the Internet raises a concern as to why. Where was the concern from mother and family for the past two years…?
How come writing styles seem to be same of all Bedwell family members?
And is she divorced from her husband? I would of imagined so… so how would he have access to a Trust fund she would set up for donations? Is she behind in child support or something? Because that could be a big motivator to get money to help pay off child support.. I can only assume she pays child support because she does not have sole custody of Aaliyah. So if she had set a trust then he would have access to that money because she is behind in payments…only reason he could get access to it.
Never mind it came up the other day i wasnt allowed to post for some reason. I had a link to my website up so i took that off and put my myspace one back on and its letting me post idk. any way all good now thanks!
Butters, she was doing this all on her myspace and facebook. And then her ex had the restraining order put in place right about the time of the website came along. All of the information on saveaaliyah.com, including the video, came from her myspace and facebook.
All of the posts from the bedwell family would be similar, they are family and they have seen what is going on.
I don’t know anything about trusts, so I can’t comment on that. I assume she pays child support as well, but I don’t know that for sure.
Butters, I’m sorry, I don’t think she was ever married to the ex.
Sean,
Everyone has their own opinions on this case. What I object to though is name calling and being disrespectfull to others, particularly my wife Jan. I am sure that you would agree that if there is even a slight chance of this story being true it is our moral duty to try and press the authorities to act, If you continue to conduct yourself the way you did last night not only will you be banned from the comments section, but you will also no longer be a writer for us.
I don’t see how a court can make her take down her myspace and face book page…never heard of that…so they took those down right? Deleted them? So I heard I believe? ….. well then why have an actual website? Isn’t that going to do more damage than a facebook/myspace page. And going online to more than one public internet forum and posting your story.
Well then why does AnneA say that the father would have access to the Trust fund if she opened a trust instead of pay pal transactions? Unless she owes him money?
Kat - I have to agree with you that some 2 yr olds can have those communication skills at such an early age. I have three children and my first was talking in complete sentences by the time she was 16 months old. My other two did not talk in sentences or with the vocabulary that my first did near that early and progressed with their speech on a level that I thought was more “normal or average”.
Now, I have a grandchild that is 20 months old and she is reminding me of my first child. That girl is amazing with her vocabulary and her sentences already. I got her Baby Einstein videos for her first birthday and she can now say many words in Spanish and French. Those videos are also teaching her sign language. When she ask for something or tells you something she also uses sign language with it that she learned on those videos. When this was new to her, learning the different English words, foreign languages and sign languages, I had to remind her sometimes to use her words cause she signs so much. She’d then look at me, think for a second and say in English what she just signed to me. Things as simple as asking for a snack, wanting a drink, wanting me to read to her.
For that reason, I never doubted when watching the video that a child that age can speak as she was speaking. I questioned quite a bit to myself about this whole situation but never once did I question whether a 2 year old could speak like she spoke. Some can and some can’t.
I do not believe, though, that a 2 yr old can be coached to say these things for that period of uninterrupted time. Nor do I think that if coaching is going on, they are not going to question something during the whispers (as has been suggested what was possibly happening) or that they would not get distracted with something else and change the subject.
Butters, from what I understand, the restraining order is for Connie to stop making the allegations of her ex. So, that would mean her FB and myspace, I guess. So her friends and family stated that if she couldn’t do it, they would. Hence the new website. That’s just what I think though.
Talina, I have a 2 year old too, people ask me if she is in some special school. She speaks as if she is four. She astounds me. And not only is it her, but my 17 year old was exactly the same. By the time she was a year old, she was speaking full sentences. Some kids want to talk, some don’t. I have two in between these and they barley spoke. Every child is different. Kelsey Smith Briggs was 2 1/2 when she was murdered and couldn’t speak anywhere near as well as Aaliyah. I often wonder if she could if she still would be here.
So who is to say that her family is allowed to anything I do recall Carol who seemed very informed on gag orders/whatever that even having her family post these things can have damaging results.
And I do know a 3 year old that was speaking full sentences at 2 as well. I do not doubt that capability.. but there are too many long pauses in that video for me, there is a mention of baby einstein and a worm. Licking bubbles or eating them in the bath is not sexual in my eyes, and kids get curious with their naked bodies at this young age… I know I have a 23 month old son.
Butters, I can’t speak for the family, but it seems to me as if they are tired of everyone (Placer County and her ex) trying to quiet her. So they are doing what they think is right.
The part of the video we see is only 10 minutes of a 27 minute tape. I didn’t really hear any pauses, but I’ve only listend to it once. I don’t want to hear it again.
And yes, all children are curious about their bodies, but I have three girls and not one of them ever tried to stick anything up their private parts.
morning all, im trying to call placer county da…time diffrence is about 1hr…was wondering has anyone called the police dp??? made a report there??? anna
I guess if they had the testimonys of family/therapist (not sure if I have seen any on therapists) copied from written form onto the website that might make more believers.
Anyone can type out a testimony and claim it to be truth. I just have a hard problem that there is only 10 mins of a 27 video, there is so no hard copy of testimony/facts.
Now I have gone to proper channels and brought attention to Aaliyah’s case because I do know that if I am wrong and she is in danger that I did something about it.
The pauses in the video didn’t strike me as long but I’ll admit I could only watch it one time.
Pauses in a child’s speech while they are supposed to be going to sleep or trying to drift off to sleep, to me, is not uncommon. When I have my grand daughter and put her down for a nap or to go to bed for the night, she often chats for a while. I’ll think she’s has gone to sleep and the next thing I know she’s asking me questions again or wanting to talk about something. However, it’s usually very different from the last thing she mentioned as her mind is drifting around to a variety of subjects. In this video, the child does not seem to be jumping from topic to topic even after the pauses.
As far as I know, this is the only video that has been posted for general view. From what I read somewhere, there are a number of videos of Aaliyah that were taken over time until the mother was instructed to stop with the videos. I believe that the videos are during the parent exchange of the child during visitation switching from one to the other and possibly other incidents of Aaliyah. Someone who knows more about this could probably speak more informed on this than me.
Jan..i feel for you your ordeal was horrible for you, thank goodness you survived, so many dont.thank you simon for taking care of our jan also without a supportive partner some people can never recover…god bless you both!!
Anna, I can only speak for myself, but I have called and written the PDs numerous times. I have contacted the DA, the FBI, the head of CPS.
Butters, for some reason they are keeping the Drs and psychologits reports from being on the internet. I’m assuming that maybe someone told her not to until she gets some legal advice. She’s also afraid for her daughters life, so I guess if some things get out, it could be detrimental to Aaliyah. As I said, I am only guessing.
the second number 530-784-6000 says its out of service??? supposidly cps in roseville will try again sometimes i dial wrong, have left a message with Amy Kennedy of Auburn cps to call me back…Anna
Talina, I think you are right about the other videos. I have heard that they exist, but I have never seen them.
maybee i have a 2 hr time diffrence from mn??? cuz no one seems to be answring..hmm i will keep calling tho!
most of the time when there is a complaint cps removes the child…i dont understand why these people arent doing thier jobs??? also here in mn awhile back cps placed a child back with a abuser..pooor thing died was tied to a bed cig burns, starved….how do people do these things..i will feel better when Aalyiah is with a diffrent family till a investigation is done, thats how it should be, but i realise with $$ and influence sometimes you can get away with murder..look at the kenedy couzin, how long b4 he was tried!!
Anna - I believe it is 7:15am in California right now
i couldnt watch the whole 10 min vidio…was to heart breaking to me…
Anna, I spoke with CPS last week. I asked them why the baby wasn’t placed in a different home while an investigatin takes place. All she said to me is that they were looking into it. I didn’t want to yell and scream at her, maybe I should have.
Talina..thanks then its a 2 hr time diffrence..i get mixed up about that sometimes..i once called my sis at 4 am…oppps!
karen..i will be asking the same question…someone out there has got to have a concince and give a shit!!! tru or not a investigation needs to be done and in the mean time this child need to be safe!!!!
i find it appauling that cps will pull a child from someones home for something really silly, but yet at something like this they dont act..or like the story i told you they chose to give a child back to a abuser..in the time ive been watching the caylee case i cant even count how many children have died at the hands of a parent because cps gave them back….i could tell you a big story about me but it pisses me off every time i talk about it….with cps and thier investigations!!! people here in our complex call when they are pissed at a neighbor friends in a fight so someone calls cps(not on me) but i see it happen here where i live…cps is for emergencys not because you mad and trying to get beck at your friend…one lady here must have the # on speed dial….long and sorted story(i dont like nor do i talk to this person)…funny thing the other day this paticular lady couldnt find her own child….maybe someone should have called on her..i personally dont play games like that!!! sorry got off topic!!
I know Anna, my sister had her kids taken away from her because she made allegations against her husband. I know for a fact those two children were never even said “NO” to, let alone being spanked. They took them away for a year.
I had the police called on me time because my 17 year old, then 2, was having a temper tantrum. She was destroying her room, the next door neighbor thought I was beating her to death. The police came and after they talked to her and me they told me that she needed a heavy hand. I said, “Oh, ok, so then if I did spank her you could take her away from me? No thanks, I’ll just let her have her tantrums.” I thanked my neighbor though, I told her that if I was beating her, she would have gotten the help she needed.
i just recieved a call back from placer county..the one number for cps is wrong its another part of the welfare system the right number is…..530-886-5450 this is auburn county cps withch im gonna call now….
ok something strange is going on the number she gave me is also not working she gave me 2 more but ill just call information if these dont work the 2 new ones are 530-889-7650….1-888-886-5401…karen what numbers did you call….if youve called a number and got thru please print it here so i can call..thanks
ok so im on the phone with someone…they are gonna take a report but took another call…she seems familiar with youtube…she mentioned this first when i mentioned Aalyah’s name…hmmm…on hold!
ok so im on the phone with someone…they are gonna take a report but took another call…she seems familiar with youtube…she mentioned this first when i mentioned Aalyah’s name…hmmm…on hold!
I called 916-787-8860
very strange call…the case # is accually the pd number..i got thru to the 888-886-5401 number
What did she tell you? Are they going to take her out of the home?
she said she cannot decide what to investigate but is aware of everything going on in placer county..at first she said all complaints were investigated…gonna call the da now bbim
Good luck with that! I have called and left at least 7 messages and have written to him three times.
karen, i called your number and it went to the same gal i was just talking to that da wont answer his phone…..gonna keep calling tho!
the other number was some county acces number you cant get thru to cps dirrect i suppose…hmmm….like they screen thier calls huh??
What you said about the lady at CPS saying all calls are investigated until she knew it was Aaliyah says something to me. I am so frustrated. I have a friend I’m waiting on, she used to be a producer for a very well known media mogul. I’m hoping she still has contacts with him.
I don’t know. The number I posted here, I got a answer right away. Any time I call the DA it always goes to a voicemail. At least it’s ringing for you.
karen..it sounds very funny to me also….not good!
Anna - very curious. I wonder if the CPS person really took another call or went and asked someone how she should respond to your call. Seems odd to me that if a person is on the phone making a complaint that they’d be put on hold for that same person to take another call. This whole thing is so odd.
I watch Dominick Dunn a lot on tv and the more I hear about that county the more it reminds of some of the episodes I’ve seen where he has exposed small town corruption or prominent family crimes on the cases he’s investigated.
Maybe she knew about Aaliyah etc cuz so many people have probably called?
Talina..thats what i thought to….i even went and locked my doors for some reason, the lady kinda soundes short with me after…
She did the same thing to me. Put me on hold and then said, “Go ahead and ask your question.” Then she put me on hold again and when she came back on she just said they were looking into that now, to take the baby out of the home. And the first thing said was, “I’m sure you have had many calls this week regarding Aaliyah Bedwell.” She stated, “Mmmhmmm”. And that was it.
i know what if a childs dying and your put on hold???? something is not right also she said she doesnt go on the internet to many weird/bad things on there but they are aware of everything in placer county… maybee we should call sacremento and see if someone there should investigate is placer north or south calif…maybee if we got someone from another county involved it could be exposed…what do you think???
she told me she couldnt talk about anything….gonna go to the store brb
anna, I believe other people have written the attorney general (state level) and possibly even the Governor of California. Also the FBI has been contacted more than once.
A lot has been done over the past ten days or so. Not that more letters would hurt. At least they’d know that a lot of people are demanding that this situation be investigated independently of those who were supposed to have handled it before.
Anna, I just got off the phone with Sacramento CPS, they said that we need to call Placer County CPS. I told her I’ve already done that, and she said because it is out of her juristiction she can’t do anything
KarenCCC - Some of that - the responses from CPS - are part of the confidentiality issues we were talking about the other day. CPS really can’t tell anybody what’s going on with a child. Sometimes even the police have to get a warrant to find out. Same goes for doctors and psychologists and therapists who have taken oaths of confidentiality regarding their patients.
It’s frustrating for us but we should not assume that nothing is being done. I think if the pressure is kept on in the right places (a level or two above the locals who’ve been handling it) that some real results will be achieved.
Also she could be having a bad day or has heard so much about this that being short with you was not to be necessarily mean but probably swamped with other cases and then this case being brought to their attention so much.. I mean they could be investigating it already.
m2c, oh, I know. I was just relaying what happened to me. I understand their policies, but don’t agree with them.
Butters, that’s pretty much what she said, they were looking into taking her out of the home.
I assume they are investigating it. I’m just anxious.
OMG…i got thru to the da office…explained i was calling there direct because i wasnt getting anywhere with anyone else..i was tole there are proceyres and proceses to go thru..i explained i understood this but doing it that way nothing was being done…got the same answres so i said i feel this child is being sexually abused and im gonna have to wait to go thru your process whild she is still in the situation….she told me to call cps and ask for a supervisor!!!!! GRRRRRRR
hmm…cant get thru to a supervisor but the man i talked to accually seemed nice..took another report asked how i was involved…told him i a mother and grandmother and couldnt live with myself if i didnt do something..i mean how hard is it to call???? at least he was nicer!!
awesome you banned people like toomanyq’s jan…
people like that are the reason this defenseless child still needs our help.
anyone who is too blind to see and too deaf to hear the words of an truly innocent child is to blame for the perpetuation of abuse in our society.
I hope this report of yours is soon followed by Swift Justice for little Aaliyah and her SUPPORTERS, Not her Abusers.
AND SO WHAT IF the mother and family make any ‘bucks’ in donations! THEY NEED THEM!
Maybe and at least then they can actually obtain the help they need. PLEASE don’t hesitate to help in any way you can. Better safe than sorry, better late than never.
SAVE AALIYAH!
Rivercity, I don’t think you read Jan’s post correctly. She is on Aaliyah’s side. She and her husband are doing everything they can to get this little girl help.
karen did you see i got thru to the da….but it was like e1 there in placer co has to screen thier calls…and then sort the ones they chose to believe…i wish i had the governers email do you??? phone for him???? someone has got to listen…why wont they???
so does this child have to end up missing..who watches her while the dad works??? any day cares, head start programs she might be in??? any one else in contact with this child who could make a report???
karen@9:29…i went to a positive parenting class a few yrs ago run by some counsler they said you can hit you kids all you want just not leave a mark….wtf!!! how many people would run with that??? these people have no clue sometimes what they are doing im glad mine is old enough i shouldnt have to worry about them…but you never know…we have a little perv around here also i reported him and a detective was called…
KarenCCC - I placed some calls and discovered the agency that provides oversight acts as an “Ombudsman”)for California’s County CPS’s. services.
That is the only agency capable of looking in to whether Placer County has or is handling Aaliyah’s situation correctly - doing the right thing according to the law, rules, regs etc.
I passed the contact information to Jan and Simon in case this is one place they have not contacted yet and I will leave it up to them to call there and explain the situation and ask that Placer County CPS be looked into with regard to Aaliyah.
So our calls to Placer County CPS can certainly express our concern and expectations that they handle this properly but we won’t get any more from them. The oversight agency is the one that will look into it and make sure.
Anna, yes I did see your post regarding the DA. At least you spoke to someone, they always send me to his voicemail. Um, I believe the ex’s mother watches Aaliyah while he is working. And I have asked the same question about the baby coming up missing or GOD forbid murdered to the PDs and CPS letters I have sent. I have had NO response. What I see is that Connie needs to get a lawyer so the lawyer can make an emergency order to get the child out of the home. I really can’t think of anything else. I will get the govoner’s email for you, I just wrote him on Saturday or Friday, I can’t remember. I’ll post it in a minute.
Anna, http://gov.ca.gov/interact#contact
Thank you m2c!
anna - It doesn’t necessarily mean no one is listening. I’ll bet they’ve had hundreds of calls just in this last week. It probably means they know about this and are looking into it. They can’t spend their time on the phone taking questions they can’t answer because (a) they don’t know yet or (b) it’s confidential because it’s a child.
Keeping the pressure on to let them know we’re still “watching” this case is a good idea.
But answers we probably won’t get for a while. And when we do it probably won’t come from a government agency (confidentiality again) but from some other source perhaps.
Didn’t Connie have an attorney at this last court date or was it only the one appointed for Aaliyah?
If so are they still representing her or them?
m2c your the best :):) :)!!!
Aalyiah should have a guardia at lidem(spelling) they should be looking out for only her intrests and if they were doing thier job should have pulled her from the home untill they could prove this was a false accusation…they should have talked to th echild had play therapy and made sure without a shodow of a doubt this child is safe…..imo, they havent!!!!
Somebody, Aaliyah has a court appointed attorney. As far as I know, Connie is unrepresented at this time. If you can call what this lawyer is doing representing Aaliyah, yes. Her name is Rebecca Bowman, I have tried calling her as well. She won’t pick up her phone
as for connie and a attorney she will need one out of county i dont think any one in placer co has enough balls to take this case!!!!! IF YOUR READING…PROVE ME WRONG!
There was a comment left I believe by a family member who reported that Connie did NOT have an attorney with her at this last hearing.
I believe that there is a lawyer for the child but I’m not sure. Aaliyah should have one who has only her best interests in mind. That’s as it should be.
Yes Connie needs a lawyer - an independent one of course. Not a public defender since they fear that that person won’t give her fair or competent or unbiased representation. I do not know why she does not have one yet. Surely after all this hullabaloo over the past ten days (and more) that someone has volunteered.
I’ll tell you something my husband always tells me. If I want different results then I can’t keep doing something the same way!
karen whats rebeca’s number??
1-530-889-1130
m2c….funny e1 in florida and around the country is voulentering to represent m…why not a live mother in need…says alot maybee if this got published more someone would have the BALL BIG ENOUGH to take it!!!
i left a msg for rb told her i was calling on behalf of Aalyiah and i needed some assurance this matter is being taken seriously that i needed some proof that action is being taken.
wht do you have in mind m2c??? ideas???
m2c my way of saying that is your walking down the street you have a pothole on one side the other way is clear if you keep walking and falling into the pothole then its time to walk the otherway…same diffrence:)
m2c, whatever your ideas are, I am willing to try.
me to??
anna, exactly! and if you’re trying to open a door and keep turning the knob to the left, maybe try turning it to the right,or try using a key in case it’s locked.
As for what to do I’d like to see if Jan and Simon confirm that agency’s oversight of County CPS and if necessary then we can email complaints and requests for inquiry.
Perhaps there are other places that we can do the same. I’ll check and see. Perhaps Jan and Simon have suggestions of places that need some emailed complaints to “goose” them in the right direction. Or perhaps others who have already done a lot of research on this could advise us. Right now I’m going to wait for a bit and see what the next best step is.
I must admit I can not follow this to closely at this point in my life ~ yep, weak and I will be the first to admit it…….anyway, I do want you all to know I am praying feverently for this child, and for those of you trying desperately to help her. I am praying for the comfort, strength, and healing for all the folks writing who have their own demons to face…..
well, i called again, the man was nice i explained my concerns asking why i couldnt talk to a supervisor…explained the story and i started crying…i asked this man if he could prommise this would go to the right place to be investigated…i did give other seneros like what if this was his child and no one helped him…and so on …he said he would prommise me it would go where needed…why cant you just tals to a supervisor??? i dont understand this??? placer is right on the border to nevada…casinos, gambling, coruption, makes sence to me!
m2c..he gave me a senero like yours with the key..i asked him if he could tell me what to do next he couldnt but funny he would say that….what do you make of it what do do diffrent???
im convinced he meant something by that..call 916-787-8860..if a man answres talk to him i was also told i had to add on to my report i guess i could make a new one with a diffrent person….what do you think???
jen@12:06..prayers work as well and you can only do what you can, so dont feel like the prayers dont help they do…thank you♥
think they are reading the blog??? sounds just like what m2c said what the man told me……hmmm….???
calling governor schwarzenegger now..
OMG i might be getting somewhere:):)
Anna, the man may have been trying to tell you to go about it differently, or contact another dept or agency. Maybe he’s also saying you need to be able to give more information.
Have you called the number he gave you? It’s worth it to find out who/what the number belongs to. I think Spacely and/or LLP contacted the Gov’s office last week.
Good luck!
BBL
well i emailed jan the info i got with he gov fax number i hope it does some good im so excited that he will take a look….pray e1!!!!!
did spacely or llp get a fax number??? i hope i got something new…progress…..now i read your post it took the wind out of my sail…i need to shower ive been on the phone and pc all day on this i stink..ill be sad if its not anything that can help….
anna, don’t be sad. Most efforts help. Even if a department is getting dozens of calls that should tell them that people are serious about this and want this investigated properly. The important thing is to be contacting the right depts and agencies - the ones that are in a position to do something about it. That’s hard for us to know. I am sure that Jan and Simon are way way ahead of us on all this. Maybe we should ask them what we can do. If there is any place they’d like us to call or to email to help support their efforts.
GOOD NEWS guys( i hope) i forwarded jan a number i hope will be helpfull she will forward it to connie…oh i hape it does some good….im so darn excited to have made a little headway with this…:):):):)
ps..took a shower…omg id be so glad if this got resolved soon!!!!
Dear Jan and Simon,
I just want to say thank you for continuing to delve into this story. I have been following the progress and reading the articles and the many comments.
I am completely shocked and dismayed at some of the attacks you have endured. You are following your hearts and I commend you for it.
I am a doubter by nature and remain skeptical about this case, but I see the hours you are putting into it, I see the progress you have made, and I recognize that you have more information and a clearer view of the overall picture than I do, so I accept your statements that there is more than meets the eye and the possibilty this child is being abused is very real.
I continue to look forward to seeing more stories about this case and again thank you for doing everything you can to help this young child.
Thank you Spacely, we appreciate it. All we want is to make sure this child is safe.
Jan and Simon
looking back most of the comments are from me karen where’d you go….AnnaA??
Barefoot Mommies fully supports the Save Aaliyah case and we love listening to Jan & Simon. We are behind you 100%. We post Save Aaliyah postings and updates alot and we get ALOT of hate mail for it as well.But until someone shows us hard core proof of a hoax we will continue to help this baby.
Thankyou to all who are helping spred the word. And FYI, we have never donated a dollar to them, we simply post short blogs for them. You dont have to donate and she never asked for money only, she said if you can, if not she would rather have a member of law enforcement or official help her more.
We are just mommys who believe any and every child deserves a voice.
So very true Barefoot Mommies! It is not a matter of who you believe. This child needs to be protected as we would protect our own child. Her voice must be heard.
There is clearly something happening to this child, and she needs it to be stopped. No child should live in fear, no child should have to endure suffering at the hands of an adult.
She is so young, and her days should be filled with wonder, and discovery and joy. Courts need to be reminded that this is a child’s life at stake, and CPS needs to take a closer look into these allegations. At the very least this child should be put in foster care, while the case is investigated, and the world watches. There may have been undue influences placed on the court by the father’s family- I don’t know because such things are difficult to prove.
But the cat is out of the bag now, and this case truly warrants a closer look, hopefully by those outside this potentially corrupt county system.
It is difficult, because definitive proof is not available. We have to go on what we feel, and what we believe. I feel this child needs to be helped, and protected from whatever is causing her emotional issues and potentially physical harm.
Based on the statements of the Bedwell family, this child is indeed suffering greatly.
Keep up the good work Barefoot Mommies!!! And Jan and Simon, bless you for your efforts in the name of this baby.
AMEN!! Barefoot Mommies, I can’t thank you enough for your support. I agree with your post 100% as well. It is so sad that so many are against us checking this out. You’d think more would encourage it. It isn’t costing them a dime (nor us) and it isn’t even taking up any of their time other than to read our articles which if they want to complain about that the simple solution would be just don’t read them.
We believe in what we are doing and we will continue even though some seem to think we will be forced by them to drop it. The ONLY way would be for the mother and her family to ask us and that is it.
God Bless you and everyone else that is giving us their blessings here, even those that are still in doubt. That is fine as long as they can respect our decisions.
night everyone!
Jan
Wow! Reading today the comments here, really show what “teamwork” is! I think it’s great that those that don’t agree are respectfully disagreeing… or not commenting at all. It allows those that atleast “question” the validity of this case and want the truth (no matter what it is!)… the opportunity to make headway and assist Jan and Simon in doing so. VERY productive!
Anna and m2c…..YOU, my friends… are my new “idols” for today. Perserverance is what you have shown us today! You have shown what “taking action” is all about. Let you be an example to ALL of us!
oh…and Barefoot mommies….you rock too!
Nite all!
anna for the record my name is NOT AnnaA, my name is AnnE, its my first name, the last A. is the first letter of my last name. I am now and have been AnneA. It is the name I used when joining Bnn and the ONLY one I have ever used. Our names are so close, but there is a slight difference. I assume your name is Anna and mine is Anne, the E being silent. I do apologize to you for any flack you may have gotten which was directed toward me. I saw in some earlier post, when this first started, that this had been somewhat of a problem for you. I can only apologize, blame my mother, she named me. lol
Anna you asked where I am, I am here. I am still very active in getting this investigated and making sure Aaliyah is safe. With the exception of Sunday, not a day has gone by that I haven’t made phone calls, many many calls. I am traveling a road less traveled but, that has a chance of getting, the required results none the less. Please trust me when I say, I do care and am willing to and am doing all that I can to help. I just don’t see how keeping turmoil going is positive. The only thing that accomplishes is being detrimental to Jan, Simon, and Bnn as a whole. That has never been my goal.
I stopped posting because every time I say ANY-thing at all, my words are disected & twisted. Used to give the opposing side something else to complain about. I don’t believe this is helpful to Aaliyah. My purpose here is to help NOT hurt anyone in anyway.
The fall out with this case has been painful. For me personally, and others. One day I am happily interacting with long time regular bloggers on Bnn and the next day I am a scammer, con artist and as bad as Cindy Anthony. Who has spent the past 6 months planning this whole fiasco under another name. I am a spy, a bi-ch and well the list goes on. Am I guilty of even one of those accusations? NO!
I issued a challenge back on 5-2-09 on thread # 120708 at 8:53 p.m. for ANYONE to show me ONE post where I was rude, disrespectful, trying to force others to believe this story or ask anybody for a penny. Today is 5-12-09 and NO ONE has been able to come up with even ONE post. AFTER & only after, I had been repeatedly attacked and accused of everything imaginable did I come back with a nasty reply.
First Karen was attacked, then me, next was mb, who from all I know was a long standing member of the regulars.
Now it is happening to Jan. The same people who now, question her posts and motives. Also accuse her of being unfair, of making a change, of attacking others, of not allowing THEM to have an opinion, deleting posts and banning folks. These the people who “loved” her and thought she could almost walk on water, just a few short days ago. What is her crime? It has been said, many times, its all because THEY don’t agree with her.
The only thing I can see is she is taking this case seriously. She is refusing to drop it. She is following her heart and life experience
to expose the wrong doer, no matter which parent it is. I have not seen ONE post in which she has attempted to sway anyone in any way. I HAVE seen posts asking all to respect others who DO think this case is valid.
The group of long time regulars on Bnn are fantastic at digging and finding the truth. I would ask each of them, go back and read the posts from the beginning concerning this case. The truth is there, easily found with little effort, one just has to be willing to see it.
It seems to me, hurting Jan’s feelings is just plain wrong. She and Simon have been there for all of them, they have provided the place that all these caring people could go and talk freely about Caylee.
Anyone hearing the broadcast last Saturday knows, Jan has had to deal with more pain then she ever should have. Those responsible were uncaring and outright ignorant. People who didn’t know or believe her. Why for God’s sake would the people who profess to care about her and trust her, question and attack her now? Is the anger about this case so strong? Does it blind those who WERE her friends? The fact that this is causing her REAL pain should dawn on someone. The way I see it and we all know what my opinion is worth to many. But we are guests in Simon and Jan’s house. Some with malice, have voiced opposition about investigating this case. Why? As a guest in someone’s home, there is a protocol to follow. It is called respect, I have seen very little of that in this case. I am not saying people should not have their own opinions. I am just saying a little common courtesy would go a long way toward everyone getting along.
Its strange to see how many strangers are so willing to take this story as absolute fact without anything beyond the video.
To: Toomanyquestons
You are right on key. People hear child abuse, child sexual abuse and they go in guns blazing. We need all the evidence as you said, not website links form “personal observations.”
Karen “The baby needs to be taken out of the home where the allegations are being spoken of.”
Many innocent people lose their children based on false claims. What if the child is not being abused? The mother does not have custody so the child will be in a foster home, per the state. Unless the grandparents can take the child. Ive read 11 investigations by CPS. If there is so much evidence….I think it speaks for itself. I feel really bad for this little girl. She’s either abused or a pawn.
Chipotle, if strangers didn’t react and the baby is being abused, what happens? Nothing. If strangers get involved and the baby is being abused, what happens? Hopefully an investigation. In my opinion, the baby needs to be taken out of this home. And if these are false claims, how did it come to all of this? There are many false claims made everyday and it’s nothing like this. I haven’t seen one person on the father’s side come to any of the websites (using their own names anyway) disputing the allegtions. That says a lot to me. I am not going to sit back and just wait and see, Chipotle. That’s just my opinion.
Karen,
I have a question regarding the 11 CPS investigations.
Is it that there have been 11 CPS investigations or 11 reports to CPS with them not ever doing a thorough investigation?
Talina, what I remember being told to me is that there were 11 reports to CPS and an investigation has never been done.
@Jan @ Mermaid-
Ty Jan & Mermaid for speaking out loud and clear as well. I still do not understand why its so wrong to help spred the word. Seems like we are getting a taste of what Connies is going thru. Everytime one of use says anything about that lil girl or helping her, we get hate mail, or negative comments. Hummmm….Whats so wrong about making sure Aaliyah is safe??
Sorry, but just got my emotions flared up as another twitter came thru to us for anti-aaliyah! Well when my judgement day comes, i want to know i did all i could to help her.
Mommies unite to save that baby!!!
Anna bannana-I only stopped at your post so if someone answered it after I did not see it. I work for CPS in the state of PA and we do not remove children just because there is a complaint regarding one of the parents. Granted, it does happen in the most serious of cases but not all. If that was the case, as of right now I would have approximately 45 kids placed OUT of their homes and with family or in foster care.
I really hope that there is medical evidence and therapist evidence out there that provides some “proof” that this is or is not occuring. My confusion though is wondering, does CA not have what we call “mandated reporters”? Which is anyone in the professional field (ie:teachers, doctors, police officers, day care staff, nurses, etc) that is MANDATED to report abuse/neglect even if they so much as have an INKLING that something is happening. If CA does have something similar then the doctor that found the medical evidence AND the therapist is MANDATED BY LAW to report that to CPS. I’m not sure if CA has that or if they do what kind of regs they have as compared to here in PA but it just doesn’t make sense to me!
As my boyfriend always says….I’m always confused!
Talina,
Yes if the child is taken out of the home she can go to family but it is whatever family that the current parent/caregiver states is appropriate (at least in PA that’s how it works). I can’t tell you how many times I get a call that a mom is being arrested for drugs and there is no where for the child(ren) to go but when I show up “all of a sudden” mom states that her cousin can take them. Then I will get a call the following day from the father of the child(ren) screaming at me because he does not have his children. If she had custody I can look into the people who she states is ok!!
Also, in this case I believe that the child would need to be in care. Especially since it is getting to heated and there are allegations that the paternal grandparents are doing things as well. And, IF this is a hoax (crossing my fingers it’s not) then being with the maternal side of the family could also be a bad idea.
I have a headache!!
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